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Thank you missus Wyburton. That's the
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No, no pickle onions, thank
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for sure, they must come in. It's probably dangerous out there now,

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they're probably half drowned. No,
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them in, reckoning. Good Daytail. This is sir Patrick More and you're

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and this is Paranormal Dimensions with David
Ya. Hello, welcome to the

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show. I'm David Young. Wishing
you a merry Christmas. That is,

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if you're actually listening on Christmas Day. If you're listening after Christmas, then

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I hope you had a great Christmas. If you don't celebrate Christmas, as

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I know many people don't, I
hope you're enjoying the holidays. But whatever

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the situation, I hope you're enjoying
yourselves. This is the last show of

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the year, and I have another
wonderful guest and her name is Kathy Coggniano.

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Kathy is someone I've wanted to get
on the show for some time now,

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as I say with many guests,
and it's always true, quite often

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it's not easy to schedule shows,
but we finally got around to it.

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So I'm very pleased to welcome Kathy
Cogniano to the show. Hello, Kathy,

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Welcome to the show. Hi me, David, Thank you for having

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me. It's an honor to be
here. It's my absolute pleasure to welcome

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you. We met each other a
couple of times, a couple of months

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ago back in Awaked in Manchester,
which was a fantastic event. But before

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that, it was that Chris Chris
Severs elseo Limits Magers in conference. I

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saw you there and I think I
think I mentioned to you there about coming

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on the show, and so we
finally got around to it. Over a

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year. Perfect but it's pretty I
know you've been on a few other shows

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as well, namely our friends Twins. The Twins they can sell thee brother

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Yes, yep, I love doing
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the shows I've done, you know, some here in the in the US,

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but a lot of the times I'm
doing the UK shows, which is

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fine by me. It feels like
a second home at this point. Yeah.

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Well, I'm glad to hear that. And I know, I know

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you do like it over here when
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Are you coming back? And at
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make the Awakenings conference next year.
We'll see what what this year brings,

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but it'd be nice to think I
could do that again. Although I did

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get caught up and that that mess
of all the planes being Oh yes,

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I remember late, and yeah,
so I was. I was almost two

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days late getting home. Oh wow, yeah I remember. I actually remember

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you saying that with you. It
makes me wonder if they're doing it all

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on purpose, you know, to
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I tell you, there was you
know a lot of people at the airport

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that showed up to then find out
that you know, there was this gleitch

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and there were the cancelations. A
lot of people got very frightened because they

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thought of terrorism, you know,
that cou'd something be going on. So

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yeah, glad, glad. I'm
you know, luckily I got home.

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Okay, Yeah, anyway, holp, you do get back next year.

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Anyway. I've been so intrigued you
were. You were kind enough to send

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me some paperwork here and all was
actually blown away with some of the things

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that are on it. I know, the start with your childhood. You

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have been a clearvoy the visitation with
your grandfather six, Yeah, and you

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remember that so o, my god, I will never forget it. I

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was, yeah, I was six, and we had visited my grandfather the

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day before. He was in the
hospital. He had been in the hospital

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for a little bit, and back
in those days, they wouldn't let children

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into the hospital. So we,
you know, stood outside on a hill

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that was, you know, down
below my grandfather's window. He came to

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the window and he waved to us
kids, and you know, we all

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waved back, and you know,
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That night, the middle of the
night, I don't even I can't even

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tell you what woke me up,
but I wake up, sit up in

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bed, and I look over into
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a little TV on a TV stand, and inside the entire TV is my

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grandfather, clear as day, filling
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me, but I couldn't hear him, and I look over my sister and

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I shared her and I looked over. She sound asleep. And I look

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back at the TV and he's still
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my covers because I was so scared, and I must have fallen asleep.

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And then the next morning, my
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my sister, my brother, only
to tell us that our grandfather had passed

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away that night. So from what
I know now, David, I believe

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he came to visit me while he
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it's interesting because that was the start
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back on things and he has come
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and he presents with when I know
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smell of sweet tobacco because he used
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with this awesome smelling sweet tobacco.
I was very fascinated to watch as a

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kid, to watch him roll his
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he you know, And I've had
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like that and they're like, oh, I'm smelling this tobacco, And I

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said, oh, yeah, that
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you know, even in the spirit
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and he's a guy. You know, He's told me that. So

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he's he takes care of you and
things all that. I think, so

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he oversees it. Yeah. I
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also a lot of evil spirits that
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life? I think so. I
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do this. I intuce some of
my training in different modalities. I've just

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learned to do protection work around myself, especially if I'm traveling. Just I

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don't know. Every day I start
my day with some protection work and I'm

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usually pretty protected. There's been a
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Yeah, it works for me.
I know, a lot of TV

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shows now they talk a lot about
demons and things. If it wants to

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go shows and things, it seems
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over here now about the pets of
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in demons as well? Yeah?
I do. I do. I actually

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have two friends, Joe and Joran
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They came to stay with me,
oh, back in August of twenty

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twenty two and there, yeah,
oh my gosh. We had a blast.

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Thankfully didn't run into any demons.
But I took them to different places

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that I knew they'd like to see
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of them was the Lizzie bordon House. I don't know if you know of

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her, you know all that,
you know, the forty wax with the

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hatchet and you know she supposed to
yeah, her father and stepmother. Yeah,

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we went to the Lizzie Borden house. We each had experiences. It's

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the creepiest place. Yikes. Yeah, it's you know, if you're if

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you pick up on these energies.
I definitely felt this, uh. I

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don't know if i'd say evil presence, but I felt this very heavy presence

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throughout that house and I was pushed
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into a wall, is what happened. But yeah, that house is pretty

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active. Yeah, so they were
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believe in demons. I uh,
afterwards, after I do some of what

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I call my sacred travels to some
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I will go to a woman who's
local here in Plymouth, and she's a

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healer, and but she's a big
open soul, and she oftentimes will detect

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certain things that have kind of latched
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of these trips, and she is
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little entities let's movement. So yeah, I do believe it. David.

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Yeah, yeah, that is quite
actually quite worry. I mean to these

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entities that's honds to anybody who may
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And David, I've got to wonder
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more to people like me, like
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all this. You know, I
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you know, I channel down,
you know, healing energies when I'm doing

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my healing work, So you know, I can be an open channel.

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So I do wonder if you're more
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are if you open up to the
other dimensions. You never know what comes

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through because something that I kind of
might I think about it sometimes so if

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you've got no interest in the paranormal
whatsoever, can some of these things actually

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affect you, you know that you
even knowing about it. Maybe maybe that's

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what happens to some of these moods
and people love that that's get in some

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way, you know. Yeah,
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that's for sure. Yeah. Definitely
possession. Yeah, I mean, and

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you know it happens. You know, these friends of mine, they they

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handle these types of things. So
if they personally have seen it happen and

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they've you know, they've worked these
demons out of people. I wouldn't go

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as far as saying they do an
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they do because it's not church related, but they definitely do call out the

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demons, and I guess, I
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I don't know that much about it, and I think in some way I'm

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kind of glad I don't. Is
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is very important. Is to have
the nay, have somehow get the name

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of the demon. Then you can
get rid of it and bind it.

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Yeah, get you know, get
it out of the person. No,

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it may be one that when you
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Bolden house and you got shoved,
if there's something actually tied to the house,

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and that maybe if even answered her
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horrible things, And yeah, yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. And here's

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the interesting thing, And I never
knew this history, and I've lived in

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Massachusetts most of my years. The
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was actually one of her family members. If I have the story straight,

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I want to say it was a
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and she was married, she had
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up murdering her two babies by drowning
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the house. And supposedly they find
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water system under these houses that these
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the same well. So it makes
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know, when I learned that,
I instantly had this feeling like, Okay,

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so this isn't a random thing here. Now there's almost a pattern.

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You've got two people in the same
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they both kill two people. So
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that little hidden fact about the Lizzie
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it's not normal behavior. Is it's
going to kill your children, and

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they were little ones. They were
just like, it's horrible, it's really

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horrible. Yeah. Yeah, that
was a shocking thing to learn. It

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truly was. Yeah, anyway,
I suppose we will say, I mean,

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because not all the paranor always horrible, is it. I mean,

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as you know, it's a it's
only just mostly it's the Hollywood side of

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things that, oh, yeah,
will look the scarier these things are happening,

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but as you know, it's not
that normally. Yeah, people that

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are on the other side of really
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that's been my experience. Absolutely,
they're there, you know, and

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they're always around us. And yeah, I don't have fear of that,

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you know, I truly now don't
fear death because I just know it's it's

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going to another dimension. It's and
I believe that the soul lives on,

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So there's always a part of us
that's encoded within our soul each incarnation,

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and so when we leave one incarnation, you know, chances are you'll reincarnate.

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You know, everybody talks about soul
lessons. You know, there's that

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and that there are times I believe
that we travel as a sole family.

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So that and I know for a
fact that my father and I have had

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lifetimes together previous lifetimes and so you
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that and you know, but but
as souls, we can travel in groups

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and we'll agree to incarnate together to
work out a certain soul lesson and issue.

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And yeah, so I don't think, you know, I think we

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all live on in some way or
another dimension. Well you probably believe,

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Lok, you feel connections with people, but I think there's a there's a

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you feel a lot of linking of
the spirit. You know, you see,

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you get drawn to the I don't
mean in a romantic way, although

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that does happen as well, but
you know, you just feel like you

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like that person instantly for whatever reason, you know. Yeah, and that's

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when I kind of think of a
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like you're sensing who that person is
at a soul level. And some times

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there can be recalled on a past
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who that person was in your past
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you know, they'll say that you
know your soul partners, like your beautiful

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wife, that I wouldn't doubt for
an instance that your soulmates, you know.

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So you know, there's that lovely
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funny thing, you know, I've
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eleven years ago, now after about
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we've been together all our lives.
You know. It's strange as if all

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that all that past, it just
didn't matter. If there's somebody strange,

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there's a strange thing, you know, and we still feel very close now.

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So I see, Yeah, that's
where I think absolutely past life connections,

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soule connection. Yeah. I mean
you talk about out of body experiences

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as well on your on your sheet
of paper here I've got in front of

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me. Well it was pretty It's
good for me. So it seems to

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be able to thought my brain to
draw things to talk about. There's always

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it's all about anyway. But yeah, just you remember a little bit out

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of experience. And what's interesting about
those they both happened in my childhood.

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The first one god happened. I
was like maybe five, I was very

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young, and we were at our
house in Brockton. I was on the

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swing set and I was I was
laying on my stomach on a swing and

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just kind of going back and forth, when all of a sudden, I'm

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flipped out of my body and I'm
looking down at myself. And I had

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the clear thought in mind, I'm
five, But I had the thought when

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I was up there looking down at
myself, I said, I thought to

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myself, Oh, You've got a
good healthy body in this lifetime. Now

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I'm five. So that was odd, very odd for me. And then

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the second time happened when I was
probably about ten or eleven, and I

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was just old enough that my parents
allowed me to walk up to this little

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corner general store that was like maybe
a mile away, and I walked up

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with a neighbor girl friend, and
we're walking and we're walking right in front

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of our elementary school. And as
we crossed over, the walkway stopped,

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and then there was the driveway to
the school, and then the walkway started

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again. The minute I stepped off
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road to the school again, I
flip out of my body. And this

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is so distinct. Every time I
tell this story, I can picture exactly

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what happened. I'm way up above
looking down. I can see myself talking

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to Maureen. We're continuing to walk. I'm watching us and from up above,

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and then the minute I stepped back
up on the sidewalk, I come

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washing back down into my body.
But the interesting thing is I couldn't hear,

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or at least I don't recall hearing
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talking, but I couldn't hear it. So and it's funny. Since then,

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I've had conversations with others who have
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I guess that's somewhat of a common
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the out of body experience, but
you don't always have the sound piece to

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it. So that was interesting.
So again, you know, two out

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of body experiences as a child.
I've I since have had others, but

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I found it interesting that they started
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It kind of suggests that a near
death experience is a bit different,

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so that a body experience. You
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near death, then will you no. And it's interesting. When I came

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back in my body with the second
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could feel myself come in and I
stumbled, and I can remember my friend

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Marie going are you okay? And
I can like, yeah, okay,

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and I felt weird for a couple
of seconds, and then we kept walking

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and talking, and but I had
full recall of that happening. Yeah,

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it's it's very strange. So it
was that your own experience or you had

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several sets said I've had some money, you can can you can you control

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it? You know? That's so
that's I guess that's a good nice.

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I don't know if others are out
there that can kind of, you know,

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control that, but I know.
And they happened like that, honest

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god. And then all of a
sudden you're just looking down. At least

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the two I had as a kid, I was like, oh my god,

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this is And then to have the
recall of it, I think is

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interesting because you would think it's a
kid, you probably would just forget about

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it. But I never forgot about
either one of those experiences. No,

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you do remember those types, I
knowsically, yeah, I mean, I

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mean, I'll can sell you.
I had the experience when I was in

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more cop Basically, I've set this
story on this if you felt just before

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the show not not not you.
I was in my cot and I remember

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screaming out that there was a purple
mist came swirling into the room, swelling

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all the way over to me,
and it scared me to death. I

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was only baby, a year and
a half, two years old, you

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know, maybe something like that,
and I'm screaming in baby language. My

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father came into the room and saying, what what what you look? What's

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about? And I'm trying to say
to him about this purple miss I could

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still see and wow, it's always
stayed with me. And it came out

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and it was swelled around the room
and went back out the door. Again,

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I've always kind of wondered what that
purple missed meant? Wow, wow,

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But the fact that you can remember
that, I remember it, Yeah,

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And it wasn't it wasn't a dream
because I was actually awake and I

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remember my father coming in and I
did actually say to him, but I

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was in my teens. Do you
remember that time when I was a baby.

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And I remembered because it always stayed
with me. Uh, he said,

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I can remember that. Were you
talking about this purple mist? And

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but as I said, I don't
know if if the if the color had

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a meaning or anything. You know, it's interesting that it's purple. I

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I almost want to think that the
color has meaning. Interesting huh. Well,

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and look at you with a purple
shirt eye. Well, yeah,

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I think it's probably the camera.
But it's like a movie color meaning for

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you. Yeah, I actually do. I do like the color purple.

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It happens. I've never heard anybody
talk, you know. All. I've

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got a theory that when I was
that I never knew my grandfather's, either

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of them. And I think one
of my grandfathers did actually die around about

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that time, so whether it was
coming to see me or something, I

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don't know. But also also in
the house where we were living it rented

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house living in London actually, and
I apparently around about that time, the

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lady that we used to rent or
we used to live downstairs, she died

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around about that time, so maybe
she was having the last look around or

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something. You know, maybe it
was nothing to do with me at all,

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you know, but yeah, there
was always an experience that I remember,

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so I know how just what you
mean about when you always remember as

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a child, because that's always stayed
with me, you know, yeah,

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well and I find it remarkable as
young as you were, it stayed with

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Yeah, the recall, that's that's
my asked me again. I'm sorry,

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I'll steal in the show. This
is your shown because you know what makes

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me feel like, Okay, I'm
not the only one out there having Yeah,

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this is it. I mean,
you do think you're a bit weird,

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don't you, sort of when you
think backward things. So oh yeah,

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yeah, well that whole thing with
my grandfather, Oh you know I

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should share with you an interesting end
to that story is that when you know,

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fast forward, like maybe a week
after he died, we had his

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wake and my parents allowed us kids
to go. And I'll never forget walking

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into the funeral home. It had
never been in one had no idea what

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was going to happen. And I
walk in and everybody's in the room ahead

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of me, and I see my
grandfather in the casket. Well, of

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course I had talked to him just
the night before he died, So I

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started screaming. We called him Granpy. I started screaming Grandpy's not dead.

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He's alive. I was talking to
him, and of course my parents like,

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oh god. Literally my father dragged
me out. I kept screaming,

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he's alive, He's not dead,
and they had to bring me back to

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my grandparents' house because I just got
so upset. But you know, if

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you're a little kid and your grandfather
just visited you on the TV, you

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know in your mind he could still
be alive, you know. So,

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yeah, that's strange. Oh well, that's that's quite interesting. Well,

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the fact that you saw it be
in the TV. Was there any meetings

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that, you know, I've had
some people be very interested in that fact,

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because now with technology coming, you
know, so you know fast and

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forward here that spirit is manipulating.
I don't know if you've ever had an

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experience I have where spirit will manipulate
things or my guides will manipulate technology for

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me. And it's becoming more and
more prevalent. But to go back to

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when I was a kid, that
was like, you know, TVs were

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still being at TV Stan and so
even back then, you know, he

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was sadly enough in transitioning into spirit
that he manipulated himself into that TV which

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is something when you think about it. So I always feel that he's just

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a powerful soul that he could he
could maneuver that they do seem to.

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I mean often you see it on
some of the ghost programs as well,

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that they do to lights on and
often things like that of some ghost outs

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and you see the torches going off
to questions and it's a way to which

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is something quite amazing to me.
The first time I saw that, I

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thought, I can't believe this.
You know, the magt toolches. They've

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left a few sorts scattered around and
they were sort of asking questions to them

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and they were actually, you know, it wasn't fixed because you know,

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you can have a turn of water
off. So well, what's interesting about

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light, David, is they do
use light a lot. And I know,

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for me, I am just I
don't know what it is, but

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I'll you know, for instance,
I'll drive down a road that has street

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lights on either side. This has
happened more than once, and all of

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a sudden, every single street light
will flash as I'm driving down the road

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and I'm thinking, oh my god. So I'm kind of thanking everybody,

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going wow, and I you know, welcome down the road, and there'll

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be times when I'll walk into a
room and a light will either come on

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or go off, or flash on
and off, or I've gone to turn

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the knob on a lamp and the
bull burst. So it's funny. I

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learned through someone else there's a term
for people who kind of have this manipulation

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of electricity, and it's called a
slider. And I've never heard of that

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before, but when I googled it, I was like, whoa, whoa.

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So pretty much everything they listed I
has happened for me, you know,

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as far asulating electricity. It's very
interesting. So I again, I

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have no idea, although they do
say, you know, if I vibration,

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if you vibrate at a higher level, and I have been told I

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do. I can feel that,
you know. I did some extensive training

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when I journey to Guatemala to do
a quantum of bas of healing, and

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what we were doing is we were
trained to elevate our vibrational level through very

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very involved breath work, and so
we were technically I'm back this is back

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in the day working in fourth and
fifth dimensional energy. It was my blowing

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step and so I think because of
that I vibrate at a higher rate,

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and that tends to you know,
it has something to do with the electricity,

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that vibrational exchange for some reason.
So it's strange. I didn't notice

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as you were talking, all your
lots are going on off beyond you.

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I'm joking. Well, I told
you earlier. I showed that that.

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You know. I've done shows and
there are funny things that happened with the

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lighting in my bad joking. Sorry, it's all sense of you as well.

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I love it. Now, I'll
tell you what it's. When we

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were say, no, just we
used to do salances and things, but

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we'd always have a candle and we
often seen a candle flame go right up,

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right down, so almost going out
and then coming right back up and

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going you know. I mean,
whether it was some sort of a funny

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candle, I don't know, but
that happened quite often, you know.

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Oh interesting. Yeah. I was
always too much of a scary, scaredy

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cat to do a seance. Yeah, we did the Ouija board a little

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bit. I wasn't too comfortable using
that. Even to this day. I

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won't use an Ouiji boarder. You
know. The funny thing is on a

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little bit worried about we're using it
in my own home. I don't want

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to do it to somebody else or
if we're going a ghost hunt or where.

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But they do it in but they
do open and close it properly.

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Okay, Yeah, that's important,
and that's what I think a lot a

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lot times. What happens is my
personal belief is that you know you're opening

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a portal when you're doing a seance, when you're doing an Ouiji board type

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of thing, and you don't know
what's going to come through. So there

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have been some you know, of
course Hollywood exaggerates it all, but you

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know you are opening a portal to
the spirit run. I mean when we

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used to play around with a team
and we were playing around with it,

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obviously did in the evenings. We
never did anything like open and closing it

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properly. I mean really, we
didn't even have a weigi board. We

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used to just cut out numbers and
things and put put them around the table.

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But yeah, but some experiences we
had was quite amazing really as kids,

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or as kids as teenagers, and
sometimes that glass will be really spitting

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around that table. You don't really
really fill the power. Yeah, going

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around and actually going right around the
edge of the table trying to knock the

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cards off the table and things like
that. Really amazing thing coming through there.

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Woww Yeah. But I mean did
that affect me? I don't know.

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Did anything attach itself to me?
I don't know, but I'll say

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I'm still here, I'm still living. And we did have some strange experiences.

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I must say. Anyway, Well, most boy you mentioned about levitation

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experience, is that that's some Oh
boy, that that was a big experience,

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David, And you know what,
to this day, I I tried

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to understand what was going on.
I'll share the story. It's I hear

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myself tell it and I think,
Okay, really, how in God's name

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did any of that happen? But
it happened. And so there was one

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night, this was in my other
house. I'm in bed and I hear

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and I'm you know, on a
sweep state. I hear this most stunning,

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stunning harp music. I mean to
the point that I'm in a sleep

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and I hear the music and I
think to myself, my God, did

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I cross over and go to heaven? I mean, it was otherworldly,

409
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:14,200
but it was definitely I identified it
as a heart. It was just so

410
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,240
gorgeous, and I can remember I
opened my eyes thinking, all right,

411
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,680
did I maybe leave the TV on
and it went to some kind of weird

412
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,759
music channel. Nope, I opened
my eyes and the TV is off.

413
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,799
I'm hearing the heart music. And
when I opened my eyes, I could

414
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:38,440
not move. Total sleep paralysis.
That is one of the most scariest things

415
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,559
I've ever experienced, is sleep paralysis. Oh God, was that horrible.

416
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:49,599
So I'm but what I realized was
not only am I hearing the heart music.

417
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,759
I am levitated up in the bed
and I am surrounded by this incredibly

418
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,839
beautiful, bright golden light. And
then all of a sudden from so you

419
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,960
know, if you picture yourself laying
down, you know your head is pointing

420
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,920
towards the headboard and coming through the
crown of my head, which felt like

421
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,519
it was coming through from outside of
the house, was coming through the headboard

422
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:20,240
going into my head. Was this
vibrational energy just rushing through my body to

423
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:22,519
the point where, now, mind
you, I'm levitated, I can't move,

424
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:29,640
but yet this energy coming through me
is shaking me because it's so strong.

425
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,480
And I remember meant, you know, in my mind, like screaming

426
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:38,039
because I couldn't talk. Stop.
This is too much. What is going

427
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:44,920
on here? Stop? Stop?
And it did subside. They they,

428
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:49,319
I keep always saying they and David. I have no clue who they were,

429
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,759
but this energy is being shot through
me and I cream. So the

430
00:33:55,839 --> 00:34:00,640
dog is asleep on the bed,
which I found interesting. Then all of

431
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,759
a sudden, I rolled my eyes
over. Because I rolled my eyes to

432
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:06,839
see the dog was on the bed, I put my eyes over so I

433
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:10,079
could see the window that's next to
my bed. As soon as I did

434
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:19,159
that, this is very fantastic,
this little being it was. It was

435
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,480
a leprechaun. I know that sounds
just ridiculous, but he was a leprechaun.

436
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,320
He I could, I could draw
him, and I have dripped.

437
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:31,920
I drew him in the past,
bright red hair beard, He's in a

438
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:37,960
striped shirt, he's in striped overalls. He has these little shoes that curl

439
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:43,360
up at the toes, and he's
and he comes through a pane in my

440
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,519
window. So it was like a
twelve over twelve six over six panes.

441
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,880
So it was about this, why
he comes through, not that he breaks

442
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,840
through the glass, but he comes
through into the room through the pane drops

443
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,039
into the floor. Well, here's
the best part. The dog sees him.

444
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,119
So so as soon as that thing
jumps into the room, my sleep

445
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,719
roles stops. I'm back down in
the bed. The music stops, the

446
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,559
whatever was surrounding me stops, the
energy stops. The dog is going crazy

447
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,400
and she's barking. Well, this
thing jumps in the room and starts running

448
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,920
through my bedroom. The dog jumps
off the bed, chases it through my

449
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:23,280
house, only to have a disappear. Because I get out of the bed

450
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,519
too, I'm like, oh my
god, that just happened, and only

451
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:32,199
to have this little being, whatever
it was, disappear. Dog couldn't find

452
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:39,280
it. I didn't see it.
But I tell this story, and every

453
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:45,039
time I do, I feel validated
in a way that the dog saw this

454
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,760
thing. She saw it. So
it wasn't like, you know, I'm

455
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,400
in dreamland and I'm seeing this leprechaun. I mean, it was full three

456
00:35:53,480 --> 00:36:01,719
D. It was remarkable because in
your mind you look like you would picture

457
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,559
a leprechaun, and I know,
you know, oh well you kind of

458
00:36:05,559 --> 00:36:07,639
made it up then, you know, you know, you know, all

459
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:10,719
the storybooks tell you what a Leprechun
looks like but I mean it was three

460
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,320
D and it jumped in the room
and the dog. Sorry. So that's

461
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:21,039
my argument to you know, kind
of confirm that, Okay, something happened

462
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:23,159
here, I don't know what.
And the other thing Dave and over the

463
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:27,000
you know, this goes back a
few years. I've had a chance to

464
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:30,199
think about this, and I think, you know, I think dimensionally.

465
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:37,000
I think in whatever state I was
in, I was in a different dimensional

466
00:36:37,039 --> 00:36:40,159
state. And I think this this
being, you know, the fairies,

467
00:36:40,199 --> 00:36:45,639
the leprechauns are all the elemental realm, that there was some type of a

468
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:53,320
portal opening with whatever I was experiencing
happening that allowed this little creature to come

469
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,840
into my dimension and then to have
it just all stop, you know,

470
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,679
and then I'm down on the and
but I will never as long as I

471
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:08,639
live, forget that harp music stunning. And there was one other woman I

472
00:37:08,679 --> 00:37:14,400
told the story too, and she's, you know, she's had her experiences

473
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,440
kind of like mine. And she
said, you heard the heart music And

474
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:21,840
I said yeah. She goes,
oh my god, You're the first person

475
00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:27,679
that has told me they've heard this
heart music. And I said, yeah,

476
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,000
and I'm describing what I and that's
exactly what she heard. So she

477
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:35,480
had us an experience where she heard
the heart music. She didn't have the

478
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:42,079
rest of my experience, but she
too said it was an otherworldly sound,

479
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:45,519
you know, but it you know, So I to this day, I

480
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:53,039
don't know exactly what happened, but
I'll never forget it. And it's interesting.

481
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:59,079
I feel that that energy being shot
through my body. I think they

482
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:06,719
were working on me. And I
do vibrate really on a high end,

483
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:12,360
high side, and I think it's
experiences like that that that has helped to

484
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,639
elevate that vibrational level that I'm at
now. The only thing I can think

485
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,559
that because it is one of the
weird ones, you know. Yeah,

486
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800
I mean, I've got to say, if you if you have told me

487
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,360
a story of an al for a
goblin or whatever two years ago, or

488
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:36,000
as you described, what was it, which it's all kind of the same

489
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:42,639
thing, aren't they'd have probably thought. But recently or a couple of years

490
00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:44,960
ago. For about a year or
so ago, now, I met a

491
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,840
lady called Katie Ray. We've got
over here, and she's kind of a

492
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:55,039
very elliprical expert, and so write
her name down, Katie Ray. Yeah

493
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:04,159
it's a A R A E.
Yeah, she's on Facebook. But she

494
00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:07,360
she gave a presentation talking about fairies
and goblins and all that type of thing,

495
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:12,360
and she explained that they're not also
like the Disney characters, some of

496
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,639
are quite quite nasty, you know, some of the But she's had quite

497
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:22,000
a lot of experiences with her anyway, and I'd wanted to try and put

498
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:27,079
you in touch with her because I
would love that because this is such a

499
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,159
weird experience, but it's a very
vivid one. So I mean, it

500
00:39:30,199 --> 00:39:35,320
wasn't like I was dreaming. I
was a weak you know. And then

501
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,760
to have the dog see it,
Yeah, to me nowadates the whole thing.

502
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,800
All just fairy stories, like you
say, a couple of years ago.

503
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,639
But her presentation, she made it
so come alive, so believably,

504
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:50,039
and you could tell her she wasn't
just pulling the world of your eyes.

505
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,800
It's because she's very credible, which
she is very Yeah that's the word,

506
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,719
very credible. So yeah, I'll
put you in touch with her because I'm

507
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,639
sure you'll look. I would love
that, love for her to just hear

508
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,840
my story. Right, Yeah,
I'm sure she'd be fascinated, but she

509
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,599
probably told you a few of her
own. Oh good, even better.

510
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:15,360
But yeah, that's brilliant. That
vibrational thing you mentioned about as well.

511
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,000
I remember having a very vivid dream
a few years back now, probably about

512
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,719
ten years ago. And funny enough, in this dream, I was I

513
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:29,159
woke up in a start, and
I remember an echoing voice saying, it's

514
00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:35,400
all in the vibrations. It is, so it must I may well have

515
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,280
been doing some of this actual traveling
that you were talking about, and I

516
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:45,239
was been giving some information, you
know. Trust you know, I always

517
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,159
say to people, and I have
to remind my own self, you know,

518
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:51,280
trust that intuition. You know,
if that's your gut feeling, I

519
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,119
go with that. Yeah, But
at the time, it didn't make a

520
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:58,079
lot of sense to me, you
know, because it was like someone was

521
00:40:58,159 --> 00:41:02,719
laughing. So it's all in the
vibrs and that said, you know,

522
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,199
so that must have had some sort
of a meaning. You know, it

523
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,079
definitely is all about vibration. And
for me, sound, sound and vibration

524
00:41:13,599 --> 00:41:19,159
and you know, certain healing medalities
those are key factors in you know,

525
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:23,920
some of the healing work that I've
trained in is just that the vibrational sound.

526
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,599
And when you mentioned about him coming
through the window as well, obviously

527
00:41:28,599 --> 00:41:32,199
we know that nothing is solid,
so there's nothing to stop things vibrate,

528
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:37,519
vibrating through something, you know,
which is kind of and things like that

529
00:41:37,559 --> 00:41:42,079
will be exactly. And you know, we hear of the stories of people,

530
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,880
you know, being abducted. They're
going through their homes. How does

531
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,559
that happen, you know, going
to the room for yourself. Well,

532
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,679
friends that can you know they can? Then Ronny Conciller exactly about being vibrated

533
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,800
through the road through the roof.
Yeah, I know. I woke up

534
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,119
to add a little short story about
the levitation thing. In fact, I

535
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,880
told this to Ronnie and Philip because
I thought if anybody would know about this,

536
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,119
they would is. I woke up
in the middle of I'm out of

537
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:19,840
my bedroom. I'm not in my
bed. I'm in the corner of a

538
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,840
den room that I have off the
kitchen, very open floor plan, and

539
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:29,119
i am elevated. I'm being held
as I'm literally held by unseen hands,

540
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,320
and I'm at the ceiling, so
my head is at the ceiling. I'm

541
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:37,880
suspended there in the corner of this
room and The freakiest thing about it was

542
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:43,440
again the paralysis of God. I
hate that. I can remember the way

543
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,840
I was facing. I could look
into my bedroom, and the freakiest thing

544
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:51,599
was my bed was empty. So
here I am near the ceiling. Now

545
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:54,440
I can't tell you was I being
abducted? And did I wake up in

546
00:42:54,440 --> 00:43:00,000
the middle of it? I don't
know. And then again with the sleep

547
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,079
paralysis, you could only talk in
your head. You couldn't voice anything,

548
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,920
so I can remember screaming for God, just God help me. God helped

549
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,320
me. And then I thought of
my very powerful teacher. His name was

550
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,760
Zenos x e n Os, and
I screamed his name. And the minute

551
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,920
I screamed his name, it all
stopped. I'm back in my bed.

552
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:27,559
I realized something happened, but that
I'm now back in my bed, so

553
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,639
I felt a little more safe and
not so crazy. The sleep paralysis was

554
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:36,639
gone, so I must have fallen
back asleep. But the next morning I

555
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,920
had absolutely recall of that happening,
and it creeped me out something fierce.

556
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,599
So I to this day do not
know exactly what that was all about.

557
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:51,960
But again you know that the paralysis
God, that is the worst feeling in

558
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,400
the world. Yeah, it does
sound quite scary because you owing something lot.

559
00:43:55,559 --> 00:44:01,320
I think, was it going to
be pervident? Well yeah, yeah,

560
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,960
well I stay this way, well
I come out of it. Yeah.

561
00:44:05,039 --> 00:44:08,000
Yeah, that to me is boy. I could do without those experiences

562
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:14,599
for sure. Yeah. And also
you'll give it a you'll give it an

563
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:16,599
example of what is actually liked to
be like that as well. You I

564
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:21,840
mentioned people that are actually like that, and you know, it puts a

565
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,320
whole perspective on you know, someone
who you know, God bless them,

566
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:30,679
is in that state of paralysis in
a permanent basis, and all they can

567
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,480
do is move their eyes, you
know, like what happened with Stephen Hawkins.

568
00:44:34,559 --> 00:44:37,599
You know, that dreadful disease he
had in his condition there towards the

569
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,239
end. I can't imagine, especially
if you've been a fit human being.

570
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:47,159
You know, Christopher Reefers, the
superman, I mean, you know,

571
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,039
just a small whole accident, wasn't
it. Yeah, basically he ruined his

572
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:58,400
life. Yeah yeah, and he
was a young man too, and what

573
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:05,079
a shame. Yeah. Do you
have any recognition and recollections of past lives

574
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:10,519
and reincarnation? Mm hmmm, I
do. Yeah. Yeah, So when

575
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:14,440
it goes with it, it goes
with all the thing about so I've better

576
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:16,159
experiences and everything, doesn't it.
Well, you know, it's funny.

577
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:22,920
I mentioned my teacher who came on
my path in twenty fifteen. In this

578
00:45:22,039 --> 00:45:28,159
lifetime. He he was living in
Australia. It was very he is a

579
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:32,440
very powerful soul, and he took
me on as a student. We had

580
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:42,679
a mutual friend and he he I
have five letters from him that are absolutely

581
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:49,119
stunning. I've kind of got them
here near me. And he would confirm

582
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,599
for me past lifetimes I had only
if I had some recall of the past

583
00:45:54,679 --> 00:46:00,400
life or I was having visions of
this past life, and then he would

584
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,840
confirm these lifetimes. But he would
never upfront say oh yeah, you had

585
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,599
a lifetime here, there and forever. So it was interesting how I learned

586
00:46:10,599 --> 00:46:15,719
of some of these lifetimes. And
then again some of this what I call

587
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,639
sacred travel that I was guided to
take. It's when I'm in some of

588
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,480
these places that I will have recall
of these lifetimes. So and then I

589
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,079
would come back from these trips and
I would write, you know, Xenos

590
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:36,840
a letter because he was kind of
off grid and our mutual friend would transcribe

591
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:42,719
my letters to him. He was
going blind at the time, and he

592
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,440
would write me back through her uh
and he would let me know, you

593
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:52,760
know, yes, that was a
past lifetime for you and x y z

594
00:46:52,119 --> 00:46:58,039
and U. Sometimes he'll say who
I was in that past life. It's

595
00:46:58,119 --> 00:47:01,400
remarkable because had it not been for
him being on my path at the time

596
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:06,920
he was, I would not have
known, you know, or connect the

597
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,119
dots, you know, when I'm
at these sacred places. You know,

598
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:20,480
one of the experiences that stands out
to me is when I was at Avebury.

599
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,440
I is what usually happens to me. I kind of have this this

600
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:30,440
guided urge to leave my group and
just go off on my own, and

601
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:36,519
that's usually when I'll have these ridiculous
experiences. And so I'm walking down you've

602
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:40,320
probably been to Avebury, had just
two weeks ago, that's right. I

603
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,239
mean the pictures, oh perfect.
So this is a good story for you

604
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,880
because you'll be able to place it. So I'm walking down what they called

605
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,719
the alleyway or the Highway of Stones, and there's still you know, you

606
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,079
could see that there's you know,
like a walkway roadway, and there are

607
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:04,440
the stones on either side of the
alleyway, and I am drawn to this

608
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,800
one particular stone, and I go
over to it, and mind you again,

609
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,719
I'm just kind of guided. I
go to not the side of the

610
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,679
stone that's facing the alleyway, but
I go to the back of it,

611
00:48:17,079 --> 00:48:22,360
and I stand fully against it,
my whole body, just fully against the

612
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,480
stone. And as soon as I
did that, it was like I had

613
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,920
an outer body experience or time slop. I don't know how to describe it,

614
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,719
but I am now seeing myself.
I'm like, not me, I'm

615
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:43,159
somebody else. I'm looking through somebody
else's eyes. I look down. I'm

616
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:49,639
in this green, long dress.
I've got long, long red hair.

617
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,199
It's very windy. Everything's blowing,
and I could hear a lot of people

618
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:02,079
and sounds around me, and I
can remember look and I walk into this

619
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:08,599
procession and I'm part of the procession. I become part of the procession and

620
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:12,920
it's a whole. And you know, the time frame looked gosh, it

621
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:17,639
looked very, very very ancient time
frame, and all the stones are there.

622
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:23,360
It was remarkable. It was at
night, a whole procession of what

623
00:49:23,519 --> 00:49:31,519
I knew to be priests and priestesses
and carrying torches, and a whole crowd

624
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:35,960
of us are coming down this alleyway, and there are people who were placed

625
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:40,039
to stand against these stones, just
like what I was standing, and with

626
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:45,920
their backs against the stones, and
these priests and priestesses would put their hands

627
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:51,719
out like this so that when they
came to somebody who was standing against a

628
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,960
stone, they were emanating this energy, healing energy, and the energy was

629
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,960
coming through the stones through these people. So whoever were standing at the stone

630
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,719
for healing was getting the stone healing
them as well as the priest or priestess

631
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:15,039
healing them. It was remarkable to
see and I and it was like a

632
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:20,920
glimpse. It was like this little
glimpse of that lifetime and that healing procession

633
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,800
is what I call it. So
when I get home, Chris, I'm

634
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,599
breaking it up. And I had
other experiences in England that were like mind

635
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,000
blowing, and but that one was
like whoa, you know, because it

636
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:34,000
was like I became I went back
into that life is the best way I

637
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,920
can describe it. And so he
wrote me back to say that yes,

638
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:44,880
you did have a lifetime there.
It was I don't know if you use

639
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:50,880
the term prehistoric Britain, it was
very ancient time ago, and that the

640
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:58,000
stones were used as healing stones and
that they literally were charged and to this

641
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:02,880
day they still hold helpful and that
that was the way the procession worked,

642
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,559
is that we were working with the
stones to heal people. And it was

643
00:51:10,639 --> 00:51:15,599
remarkable. I mean, he validated
what I saw and that yes, that's

644
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:21,920
how they were using the stones.
And I just, you know, I

645
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:27,400
guess. I also, you know, had a past life during the Roman

646
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,320
Britain phase. I was a Druid
priestess during that phase when you know,

647
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,360
Rome was ending their part of the
Britain, you know, of their presence

648
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,719
in Britain. And then I also
had a lifetime at the last phase of

649
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,760
Stonehenge. And I tell you when
I was at Stonehenge, Wow, And

650
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:52,519
again David, it was all about
vibration and sound to get those stones to

651
00:51:52,599 --> 00:51:58,519
move to get that whole formation,
is what I was shown and he confirmed

652
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,079
that as well, that that was
a lifetime. So I've had these past

653
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:07,280
lifetimes and so I look back on
some of this stuff I've learned over the

654
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,480
years is that it's almost like no
happen chance that in this lifetime I'm a

655
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:15,320
healer. I'm tapping into some of
the things I'm able I was able to

656
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:20,960
do in past lifetimes. I've brought
forward or you know, guided to learn

657
00:52:21,039 --> 00:52:25,760
certain things like getting my Egyptian healing
rods again past life. But as a

658
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,280
healer seems to be the key for
me in this lifetime. A seer and

659
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,480
a healer, you know, I've
been a clear way into many lifetimes,

660
00:52:35,519 --> 00:52:40,800
I guess so. Yeah, so
I it's been remarkable. I've had these

661
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:49,440
past life glimpses in the most remarkable
of places. Yeah, yes, crazy.

662
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,480
When I was Abriel, I was
actually lucky enough to be with Andrew

663
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:58,760
Collin and Hughes. Yes, oh, I enjoyed that post of yours and

664
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,760
the pic often seen the ancient aliens. It's the funny thing is that Andrew

665
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:07,480
Collins lives about a couple of miles
away from me be here, So no

666
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:12,280
kidding, how fun? Yeah,
it's great. But also you mentioned about

667
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,760
Stonehenge Maria. Do you know her
as well? Yes, she was at

668
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:22,599
the conference. I didn't get to
meet her. Yeah, that's kind of

669
00:53:22,639 --> 00:53:25,119
her wheelhouse, right, Yeah,
yeah, she's definitely said, oh yeah,

670
00:53:25,159 --> 00:53:29,639
cool, she was, she was. She did a talk. I've

671
00:53:29,639 --> 00:53:35,199
forgotten that. Actually, yeah,
I don't know where to go with this

672
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,719
now. I mean you mentioned about
these strange shadow bees as well on this

673
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:45,599
piece of paper. Experience with those, Oh my gosh, that was I

674
00:53:45,639 --> 00:53:49,519
mean, we do hear and we
do hear about these shadow bees quite a

675
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:52,679
lot, don't we. You know, well, Malcolm Robinson wrote a book.

676
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,159
In fact, my encounter I'm going
to share with you was featured in

677
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:02,639
his book. I was travel with
friends. In fact friends at the time

678
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,840
I had done a lot of travel
with. I first traveled to Egypt.

679
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,199
With them is William Henry of Ancient
Aliens and his wife Claire. So I've

680
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,119
traveled gosh, Egypt, Italy,
England, I've done a lot of France,

681
00:54:17,199 --> 00:54:20,760
a lot of travels over the years. This goes back a few years

682
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:28,880
now with them, and we were
okay, my mind just went blank.

683
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:34,519
That's terrible. What what did you
ask me? The shadow people we were

684
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:44,480
mentioned happens to be able to.
Don't worry about it. Oh so thank

685
00:54:44,559 --> 00:54:49,400
you. No. And a group
of us that had traveled together in Egypt,

686
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,960
we met in Nashville, where William
and Claire live, and we uh

687
00:54:54,159 --> 00:54:59,599
kind of you know, regrouped,
and they had friends who had a farm

688
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:10,199
up and the Black Hills of Yeah
of Tennessee, and they had a beautiful,

689
00:55:10,199 --> 00:55:15,800
big farm up there called Butterfly Hill
Farm. And we go and I

690
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:20,719
just instantly felt this amazing connection with
the land. I mean, I felt

691
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,199
this land was powerful, and I
was feeling and picking up on a lot

692
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:29,760
of Native American spirit around me.
And so at one point, you know,

693
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360
some of the folks on this trip
knew that I could communicate to spirit

694
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,679
and that I've had these crazy experiences. So we went off to explore out

695
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:42,800
in the woods is where it all
started. And there were all these incredible

696
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,159
old, old trails throughout the woods
that surround this beautiful farm. So we

697
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,800
go off on a little expedition and
we're well deep into the woods. It

698
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,079
was me and two other gentlemen,
and all of a sudden this I could

699
00:55:58,679 --> 00:56:05,400
hear and see, I can fiss
hear spirit, and I hear this trampling

700
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,760
of footprints like an army is running
through the woods. And I remember I

701
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,760
stopped and I stepped off the path
because they were coming down this path a

702
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:19,039
whole group. And then when I
looked, I could see in spirit that

703
00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:23,400
it was an entire group of Native
American men who are running through these woods

704
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:30,840
and they're using these really unique chirping
sounds to communicate to each other, you

705
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,480
know, those in the back to
those in the front, and they're going

706
00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:36,639
back and forth. And so the
two guys could see me seeing this,

707
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,079
but they're going, what's going on? What do you hear? And I'm

708
00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:44,199
kind of live talking telling them what
I'm seeing. And it was remarkable,

709
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,800
and so we go, you know, you know, so what happened?

710
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:51,159
They go through and I could literally
feel, David, I could feel the

711
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,639
rush of them coming by me.
It was remarkable. And so we come

712
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:58,960
back and of course they're all of
us. They're telling everybody what happened,

713
00:56:59,079 --> 00:57:00,719
and I'm just kind of old and
back going. God, I'm not sure

714
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:07,280
what the heck happened. And the
owners of the farm did say that this

715
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,320
is you know, Native American land
that you know, you know, shared

716
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,559
a bit of the history and that
there were, you know, groups of

717
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,000
them that lived on this land and
whatnot. So we go in the house

718
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:22,920
and they're having putting out this lovely
spread for dinner, and so, you

719
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,440
know, the sun's starting to set, but it's still light out, and

720
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:30,480
we're all in this great room of
there's in the house, and I'm standing

721
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,840
you don't got a glass of wine
standing in this friend of mine, Loretta

722
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,360
Come stands next to me. She
can see. She's a medium, she

723
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,760
can see. And I'm just standing
there, just kind of enjoying the atmosphere.

724
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,559
And I look over and along this
one whole wall that's right across from

725
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:52,239
where I'm standing are all these shadow
people. And it's a whole group of

726
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,639
them. And that's kind of what's
unusual about the sighting is usually you see

727
00:57:57,679 --> 00:58:00,440
one or maybe two, you don't
usually a group. Well, this is

728
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:05,960
a whole group. And I knew
them intuitively to be Native American because you

729
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,920
could tell they had like blankets.
You could just tell they were wrapped in

730
00:58:09,039 --> 00:58:14,599
something and they were in a group. But I never got the feeling,

731
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,440
excuse me, that they were,
you know, manevolent. They were.

732
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,519
They felt very peaceful. So as
I'm standing there realizing what I'm seeing because

733
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:29,920
they're moving, and I'm going,
oh my god, and I look over

734
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,480
at Loretta. She looks at me
and I said to her, are you

735
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:37,639
seeing these shadow people? She's like, yep, so again the confirmation.

736
00:58:38,199 --> 00:58:43,199
And so we watched them and we
were the only two that could see them,

737
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:45,920
and they were and I said to
her, do you get a sense

738
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:51,800
that they're evil or we should be
afraid of them, or what do you

739
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,079
feel? And she's like, no, I don't feel that at all.

740
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:58,039
She's I feel like they're almost like
the guardians of the land. And I

741
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:02,039
said, that's exactly what I was
thinking. So they felt very benevolent.

742
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:10,599
They were just a wonderful gathering.
And so I told my friend Claire this

743
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,760
and she's like, you have to
tell you know. So then she brought

744
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,079
me over and I told the owners
what happened, and Loretta came to and

745
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:22,360
she, you know, she confirmed, and we shared what we saw and

746
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:27,679
they were blown over because they had
been seeing the shadow people too, and

747
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:31,559
they were nervous and they were worried
that they were evil spirits of some kind.

748
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,199
And you know, from what we
could feel and pick up on them

749
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:38,159
and what we saw, we didn't
feel that at all. So it was

750
00:59:38,199 --> 00:59:43,000
a wonderful, you know, in
a way of confirmation for them. They're

751
00:59:43,039 --> 00:59:47,519
not crazy. They are seeing shadow
people, but these are very caring beings

752
00:59:47,559 --> 00:59:52,559
that are watching over the farm,
you know, and they had animals and

753
00:59:52,599 --> 00:59:57,840
oh it was a beautiful, beautiful
farm. And the sunsets were stunning because

754
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,960
they were way up in a mountain, right on Mountain Ridge. It was

755
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,960
just gorgeous. And you know,
so the Native American spirits are there on

756
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:09,480
that land and they're still there guarding
the land. They're overlooking that farm,

757
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:15,760
and it was really a cool experience
to see a whole group of them,

758
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:19,679
and honest to God, to see
them just walking by on this wall.

759
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,039
It was remarkable. I'll never forget
that. That was cool. How do

760
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:29,480
you feel that shadow beings Maybe just
that there are a lot of golds of

761
01:00:29,559 --> 01:00:32,159
whatever position, you know, if
they if you say a shadow being in

762
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:37,480
a house, for instance, maybe
they're golding their house. That's the chosen

763
01:00:37,519 --> 01:00:44,960
profession. Yeah, and you know
what's interesting to me, David, and

764
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:47,559
I don't really know the answer to
this, but you know, I wonder

765
01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:55,760
sometimes are shadow people? Are they
souls that haven't fully crossed over? That's

766
01:00:55,800 --> 01:01:00,559
what there was? There was that
or there she got this chosen job that

767
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:06,280
they're doing. I think so.
Yeah, But then again, there are

768
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:12,800
you know, ghosts that stay attached
to a certain place, and you can

769
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:16,880
see them more like they'll appear,
you know, whereas a shadow person.

770
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,679
I don't understand why they always stay
just as a shadow, I guess is

771
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:27,039
what I wonder, you know,
why can't they materialize a little bit more

772
01:01:27,719 --> 01:01:32,280
or if that's just they've evolved to
a point where maybe they're mostly crossed over,

773
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:37,320
but they're in this little in between
area where they're just appearing as a

774
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:44,320
shadow but vibrate on a different plane. No doubt. They probably just outside

775
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:50,960
of our field of vision, you
know, operation plane. Yeah. It's

776
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:53,880
very interesting though, isn't it.
But I mean I've never I'll never be

777
01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:00,239
lucky enough to see that well,
you know, you know in Malcolm's up,

778
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:02,800
and I've talked to Malcolm over the
years, is that you know,

779
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:10,719
there are definitely some people who are
having nasty experiences phenomenon. Yeah, but

780
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:15,599
my experience was was not that it
was it was it was lovely. It

781
01:02:15,639 --> 01:02:19,639
was a confirmation that they're there and
that they're just overseeing the land and the

782
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,440
family that live on the farm.
Yeah, and the animals you mentioned,

783
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,159
Malcolm Robinson. I'm in these book
as well. What was the incident we

784
01:02:28,199 --> 01:02:36,679
happened in Nottingham about stones, about
a stone like what we were in the

785
01:02:36,719 --> 01:02:44,519
galleries of Justice, I think Justice
Galleries or something now, but they've got

786
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:50,599
dungeons kind of things like prisons downstairs, right right down under the because it's

787
01:02:50,599 --> 01:02:53,480
like courtrooms you see on the top
floors, but they've got like a prison

788
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:59,880
part of it underneath. Malcolm and
I were actually walking from the basement up

789
01:03:00,079 --> 01:03:04,440
stairs. There was stone steps.
We're walking up the stairs and as we're

790
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,519
coming almost to the top, there
was a sharp crack on the floor behind

791
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:13,280
us. There was nobody behind us
that you know, and what the hell

792
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,199
was that? And it was dark
as well, and Malcolm got his I

793
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:22,159
think he've got his phone out,
some bit of shod. There was a

794
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:25,480
stone laying on the on the one
of the steps. He picks it up

795
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,800
and we can only assume it must
have been that that. I mean,

796
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,119
we don't know. I don't know
for sure. But it felt warm as

797
01:03:32,159 --> 01:03:37,519
well, so whether that whether that
was in a pool or something. But

798
01:03:37,559 --> 01:03:40,559
that's said the stories in the book. I mean, all I can all

799
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:45,039
I can say is if it was
that stone and somebody has thrown it.

800
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,440
Normally, if if a stone is
thrown on concrete or you'll hear it bouncing.

801
01:03:50,119 --> 01:03:54,039
But this was just one sharp crack
noise, you know. And so

802
01:03:54,119 --> 01:03:59,280
that story is in the I think
it's in Paranormal Case Files, volume three,

803
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,639
and I think it is Oh okay, yeah, I know, I

804
01:04:00,679 --> 01:04:10,199
think I've been buying for look that
one. Yeah, that one's tie.

805
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,679
You know. I'll share with your
quick story about you you bring up the

806
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:17,599
stone thing. Yeah, yikes.
So again, I'm in my other house.

807
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,199
I'm in I'm in the bedroom of
that house. Well, I had

808
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:26,519
a friend who had heard me speak
about some of the incredible things that were

809
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:30,800
happening at that house. So she
wanted to kind of feel the house for

810
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,599
herself. She wanted to come in
and get a sense of, you know,

811
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:36,480
maybe what could be going on,
and pick up something herself. And

812
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:43,320
she was one of these people who
worked as a healer and with selenite.

813
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,519
So she had these big slabs of
selenite that were like this is big.

814
01:04:45,679 --> 01:04:50,400
They weighed easily fifteen to twenty pounds
a slab. And she said, I'm

815
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,800
going to bring over these slabs of
selenite and maybe, you know, we

816
01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:00,239
can sit on them and meditate and
maybe call forth some of whatever's happened in

817
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,679
your house. I'm like, okay, fine, So she comes over.

818
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,639
So I had, you know,
a lot of activity had happened in the

819
01:05:06,639 --> 01:05:10,719
bedroom, and that's where I had
that experience. I told you about the

820
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:15,199
levitation and the Leprechaun and all that. So she was intrigued. So she

821
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,920
brings we both she gave me.
I picked out a piece of selenite.

822
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:20,280
She had a piece of cell and
it, mind you, Honest to god,

823
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:23,760
they were like fifteen to twenty pounds. They were heavy. So we

824
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,719
go walking into my bedroom. My
other dog that I lost, Bella at

825
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,719
the time, was there with us, and she started acting really weird,

826
01:05:33,159 --> 01:05:40,719
like she started circling around us and
panting and it was very odd behavior for

827
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,119
her, and I thought, oh
god, what's going on here. So

828
01:05:43,199 --> 01:05:47,280
as we're standing in the bedroom,
we're both holding our selenite. My friend

829
01:05:47,639 --> 01:05:54,760
put down her selenite on my bed
and I had one of those pham mattresses

830
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,119
that you know, the celen It
just literally sank into the phone mattress.

831
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:00,599
And then I'm standing there with my
No, I'm gonna put mine down too.

832
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:03,280
These are having so I put mine
down right next to her. So,

833
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,119
mind you both these selenite slabs are
in the middle of my bed,

834
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:13,000
sunken into you could see them indent
into the mattress. So we're standing near

835
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:16,199
them. We continue to talk and
the dog continues to circle and get more

836
01:06:16,239 --> 01:06:23,079
upset, and I had my back
to the selenite. Were standing facing each

837
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:26,719
other, and you know, she's
going on about I don't know, should

838
01:06:26,719 --> 01:06:29,559
we sit in your bedroom or go
upstairs or what. When all of a

839
01:06:29,639 --> 01:06:36,639
sudden we heard this incredible, huge
crash, and I screamed. The poor

840
01:06:36,719 --> 01:06:43,880
dog goes running, and we turned
to look. One of those fifteen to

841
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,559
twenty pound pieces of seleni as she
was, my piece of selenite, had

842
01:06:46,639 --> 01:06:53,119
flown off the bed, landed two
feet away from the bed on the floor.

843
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:58,440
Now there's no way that selenite slipped
off the bed, just absolutely no

844
01:06:58,519 --> 01:07:02,599
way. This was picked up up
and this was thrown off the bed and

845
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:06,920
landed on the floor. And we
just looked at each other. My God,

846
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,400
that creeped me out, like I
can't tell you. I mean,

847
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:16,199
if she wanted to have an experience, yep. So yeah, I mean,

848
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:21,360
you know that spirit could pick up
a fifteen to twenty pounds and heave

849
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,960
it I mean literally two feet from
the bed. So it wasn't like this

850
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,599
just kind of slid off and fell
down. I mean this was throng.

851
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:32,000
Oh okay, imagine, I mean
it was sinking to the mattress, so

852
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,320
there's no way it's going to be
just still rolling up. That's the weird

853
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:39,760
part is I looked at the bed
and you could still see the imprint of

854
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:45,119
my slab of selling in the mattress
next to hers. And it's funny.

855
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,159
I over the years have kind of
come I've had a few people weigh in

856
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:54,800
on that experience, and a couple
of people have come to a consensus that

857
01:07:54,800 --> 01:08:00,000
that was almost a warning sign for
me. This particular person who was came

858
01:08:00,039 --> 01:08:04,599
in my house with the Selenite evidently
kind of proved to be a less than

859
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:13,840
truthful, upright, upright person in
the spiritual community. So I think that

860
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:17,079
was a way of my guides kind
of going, Okay, pay attention,

861
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:23,840
get away from her. You know, I don't know, I just kind

862
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,239
of have come to that conclusion over
the years that that could have been a

863
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:30,000
warning for me. Warning. Yeah. Well, you know I've heard that

864
01:08:30,079 --> 01:08:34,119
sort of the thing before, that
you do get warning from to keep away

865
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:42,880
from certain a few less over the
years. Yeah exactly. I'll tell you

866
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,039
what, this has been really brilliant
talking to you. We've got so many

867
01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:48,600
things that we could cover. Okay, well, I've got to get you

868
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,039
back on the show again. Sometimes, can we come back because we haven't

869
01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:56,319
even got into we haven't even talked
about God. We'll all see you.

870
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:02,439
So if you if you would come
back on perhaps in a couple of months,

871
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,760
we would be brilliant and we're talking
about aliens and UFOs and all sorts

872
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:12,000
of things. There you go,
sign me up. Absolutely, I'll hold

873
01:09:12,039 --> 01:09:15,520
you to that. But it's been
great talking to you. Okay, thank

874
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,439
you so much for coming on.
I hope you have a lovely Christmas.

875
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:24,479
And oh no, merry Christmas to
you and everybody out there listening. I

876
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,119
know as this show goes as this
show goes out, it will be going

877
01:09:28,119 --> 01:09:32,279
out on Christmas Day, believe it
or not. So Merry Christmas, everybody,

878
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,720
Merry Christmas. So really, David, this show we're taping, we'll

879
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,800
go out on Christmas. It will
go out on Christmas Day, oh my

880
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,760
goodness. So hopefully people will be
listening on Christmas Day and over the Christmas

881
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,119
period for it here and in the
US, yeah, and all over the

882
01:09:49,119 --> 01:09:55,439
world hopefully. Yeah. Anyway,
I think so you take care of yourself

883
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,920
and thank you so much for coming
on again. Then we will do it

884
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,960
again. It's been an honor.
Thanks you, my friend. No,

885
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:04,279
thank you, take care of yourself. No cheers, bye bye bye,

886
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:09,359
cheers, cheers, there we are. That was Kathy Cogliano. Thank you,

887
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,920
Kathy, Merry Christmas to you.
Right, as I said at the

888
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,960
beginning of the show, this is
the last show of the year. The

889
01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:19,920
next show will be on Monday,
the eighth of January, and that will

890
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:25,479
be another young lady named Jacqueline Dixon. So I hope you'll join me for

891
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:30,039
that in the new year. Of
course, as always, if you'd like

892
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:33,239
to get in touch with me any
time, my email address is David Young

893
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:39,640
two q IN at yahoo dot co
dot uk. That's David Young two q

894
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,439
N at yahoo dot co dot uk. So once again i'd like to wish

895
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:50,640
everyone that celebrates Christmas a happy Christmas. If you're listening after Christmas, I

896
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,920
hope you're enjoying the holidays. If
you don't celebrate Christmas, then I hope

897
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,319
you're enjoying life and everything else anyway, and now I want to wish you

898
01:10:59,359 --> 01:11:01,560
all the very new year. I
hope you'll all be joining me for the

899
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,720
shows in the coming year. I'm
doing my best to try and line up

900
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,840
great guests for you, as I
always do. Yeah, I'd just like

901
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,279
to say thank you once again for
all the people that voted for the show

902
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,520
in the gp IN Awards. That's
the Ghost Planet Network Awards, which I

903
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,359
still don't know the result of yet, but we're in the top three,

904
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:26,319
so that's good enough for me,
to be honest, Just to be nominated

905
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,520
is great. Anyway. I shall
leave it there and I'll speak to you

906
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,479
in the new year. Take care, everybody. David Young signing out for

907
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:39,560
twenty twenty three. Bye bye everyone. Paranormal Dimensions is as great and powerful

908
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,920
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909
01:11:45,000 --> 01:12:47,479
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no fear. There's plenty left. Paranormal

910
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:53,439
Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the
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