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and this is Paranormal Dimensions with David Ya. Hello, welcome to the
show. I'm David Young. Wishing you a merry Christmas. That is,
if you're actually listening on Christmas Day. If you're listening after Christmas, then
I hope you had a great Christmas. If you don't celebrate Christmas, as
I know many people don't, I hope you're enjoying the holidays. But whatever
the situation, I hope you're enjoying yourselves. This is the last show of
the year, and I have another wonderful guest and her name is Kathy Coggniano.
Kathy is someone I've wanted to get on the show for some time now,
as I say with many guests, and it's always true, quite often
it's not easy to schedule shows, but we finally got around to it.
So I'm very pleased to welcome Kathy Cogniano to the show. Hello, Kathy,
Welcome to the show. Hi me, David, Thank you for having
me. It's an honor to be here. It's my absolute pleasure to welcome
you. We met each other a couple of times, a couple of months
ago back in Awaked in Manchester, which was a fantastic event. But before
that, it was that Chris Chris Severs elseo Limits Magers in conference. I
saw you there and I think I think I mentioned to you there about coming
on the show, and so we finally got around to it. Over a
year. Perfect but it's pretty I know you've been on a few other shows
as well, namely our friends Twins. The Twins they can sell thee brother
Yes, yep, I love doing their show. It's funny. Most of
the shows I've done, you know, some here in the in the US,
but a lot of the times I'm doing the UK shows, which is
fine by me. It feels like a second home at this point. Yeah.
Well, I'm glad to hear that. And I know, I know
you do like it over here when you come over, I love it.
Are you coming back? And at some point soon I'd like to think i'd
make the Awakenings conference next year. We'll see what what this year brings,
but it'd be nice to think I could do that again. Although I did
get caught up and that that mess of all the planes being Oh yes,
I remember late, and yeah, so I was. I was almost two
days late getting home. Oh wow, yeah I remember. I actually remember
you saying that with you. It makes me wonder if they're doing it all
on purpose, you know, to put us all the flowing. Well,
I tell you, there was you know a lot of people at the airport
that showed up to then find out that you know, there was this gleitch
and there were the cancelations. A lot of people got very frightened because they
thought of terrorism, you know, that cou'd something be going on. So
yeah, glad, glad. I'm you know, luckily I got home.
Okay, Yeah, anyway, holp, you do get back next year.
Anyway. I've been so intrigued you were. You were kind enough to send
me some paperwork here and all was actually blown away with some of the things
that are on it. I know, the start with your childhood. You
have been a clearvoy the visitation with your grandfather six, Yeah, and you
remember that so o, my god, I will never forget it. I
was, yeah, I was six, and we had visited my grandfather the
day before. He was in the hospital. He had been in the hospital
for a little bit, and back in those days, they wouldn't let children
into the hospital. So we, you know, stood outside on a hill
that was, you know, down below my grandfather's window. He came to
the window and he waved to us kids, and you know, we all
waved back, and you know, we go home, go to bed.
That night, the middle of the night, I don't even I can't even
tell you what woke me up, but I wake up, sit up in
bed, and I look over into the corner of the room where we had
a little TV on a TV stand, and inside the entire TV is my
grandfather, clear as day, filling the entire stoo very animated, talking to
me, but I couldn't hear him, and I look over my sister and
I shared her and I looked over. She sound asleep. And I look
back at the TV and he's still talking to me. And I dove onto
my covers because I was so scared, and I must have fallen asleep.
And then the next morning, my dad calls us kids downstairs, Me,
my sister, my brother, only to tell us that our grandfather had passed
away that night. So from what I know now, David, I believe
he came to visit me while he was transitioning and leaving this world. And
it's interesting because that was the start of pretty much everything. When I look
back on things and he has come back to visit, he's often with me,
and he presents with when I know he's here, he presents with the
smell of sweet tobacco because he used to hand roll all of his own cigarettes
with this awesome smelling sweet tobacco. I was very fascinated to watch as a
kid, to watch him roll his own cigarettes. And so yeah, so
he you know, And I've had other mediums read me and he'll come through
like that and they're like, oh, I'm smelling this tobacco, And I
said, oh, yeah, that would be my grandfather. So yeah,
you know, even in the spirit world, he's he's powerful, you know,
and he's a guy. You know, He's told me that. So
he's he takes care of you and things all that. I think, so
he oversees it. Yeah. I mean, do you believe that there are
also a lot of evil spirits that can actually interfere with you in your human
life? I think so. I you know, I've just intuitively known to
do this. I intuce some of my training in different modalities. I've just
learned to do protection work around myself, especially if I'm traveling. Just I
don't know. Every day I start my day with some protection work and I'm
usually pretty protected. There's been a few instances, but for the most part,
Yeah, it works for me. I know, a lot of TV
shows now they talk a lot about demons and things. If it wants to
go shows and things, it seems to we catch it on quite a lot
over here now about the pets of demons. I mean, do you believe
in demons as well? Yeah? I do. I do. I actually
have two friends, Joe and Joran to Stewart, who are demonologists demon hunters.
They came to stay with me, oh, back in August of twenty
twenty two and there, yeah, oh my gosh. We had a blast.
Thankfully didn't run into any demons. But I took them to different places
that I knew they'd like to see or they wanted to see, and one
of them was the Lizzie bordon House. I don't know if you know of
her, you know all that, you know, the forty wax with the
hatchet and you know she supposed to yeah, her father and stepmother. Yeah,
we went to the Lizzie Borden house. We each had experiences. It's
the creepiest place. Yikes. Yeah, it's you know, if you're if
you pick up on these energies. I definitely felt this, uh. I
don't know if i'd say evil presence, but I felt this very heavy presence
throughout that house and I was pushed down the hallway. I was literally shoved
into a wall, is what happened. But yeah, that house is pretty
active. Yeah, so they were with me. S Yes, I do
believe in demons. I uh, afterwards, after I do some of what
I call my sacred travels to some of these sites all over the world.
I will go to a woman who's local here in Plymouth, and she's a
healer, and but she's a big open soul, and she oftentimes will detect
certain things that have kind of latched onto me when I've come back from some
of these trips, and she is able to clear me of some of these
little entities let's movement. So yeah, I do believe it. David.
Yeah, yeah, that is quite actually quite worry. I mean to these
entities that's honds to anybody who may be in that facility, you know.
And David, I've got to wonder too, you know, does it happen
more to people like me, like maybe yourself, who's kind of open to
all this. You know, I can be an open channel, so I
you know, I channel down, you know, healing energies when I'm doing
my healing work, So you know, I can be an open channel.
So I do wonder if you're more susceptible. I kind of feel like you
are if you open up to the other dimensions. You never know what comes
through because something that I kind of might I think about it sometimes so if
you've got no interest in the paranormal whatsoever, can some of these things actually
affect you, you know that you even knowing about it. Maybe maybe that's
what happens to some of these moods and people love that that's get in some
way, you know. Yeah, Yeah, I wouldn't roll it out,
that's for sure. Yeah. Definitely possession. Yeah, I mean, and
you know it happens. You know, these friends of mine, they they
handle these types of things. So if they personally have seen it happen and
they've you know, they've worked these demons out of people. I wouldn't go
as far as saying they do an exorcism. I don't think that's exactly what
they do because it's not church related, but they definitely do call out the
demons, and I guess, I guess an important part of that. So
I don't know that much about it, and I think in some way I'm
kind of glad I don't. Is that to get the name of the demon
is very important. Is to have the nay, have somehow get the name
of the demon. Then you can get rid of it and bind it.
Yeah, get you know, get it out of the person. No,
it may be one that when you said about when you were in the Lizzie
Bolden house and you got shoved, if there's something actually tied to the house,
and that maybe if even answered her and sort of made her do these
horrible things, And yeah, yeah, I wouldn't doubt it. And here's
the interesting thing, And I never knew this history, and I've lived in
Massachusetts most of my years. The house next door to the Lizzie Borden house
was actually one of her family members. If I have the story straight,
I want to say it was a cousin or nep cousin lived in that house,
and she was married, she had two children, and she she ended
up murdering her two babies by drowning them in the well in the baseman of
the house. And supposedly they find out after the fact that there is a
water system under these houses that these they were tapping into, I guess basically
the same well. So it makes you wonder, David question, because you
know, when I learned that, I instantly had this feeling like, Okay,
so this isn't a random thing here. Now there's almost a pattern.
You've got two people in the same family living next door to each other and
they both kill two people. So yeah, it was interesting to learn that
that little hidden fact about the Lizzie Bordon house. Yeah, because I mean,
it's not normal behavior. Is it's going to kill your children, and
they were little ones. They were just like, it's horrible, it's really
horrible. Yeah. Yeah, that was a shocking thing to learn. It
truly was. Yeah, anyway, I suppose we will say, I mean,
because not all the paranor always horrible, is it. I mean,
as you know, it's a it's only just mostly it's the Hollywood side of
things that, oh, yeah, will look the scarier these things are happening,
but as you know, it's not that normally. Yeah, people that
are on the other side of really just like you and me, And yeah,
that's been my experience. Absolutely, they're there, you know, and
they're always around us. And yeah, I don't have fear of that,
you know, I truly now don't fear death because I just know it's it's
going to another dimension. It's and I believe that the soul lives on,
So there's always a part of us that's encoded within our soul each incarnation,
and so when we leave one incarnation, you know, chances are you'll reincarnate.
You know, everybody talks about soul lessons. You know, there's that
and that there are times I believe that we travel as a sole family.
So that and I know for a fact that my father and I have had
lifetimes together previous lifetimes and so you know, we had a little friction around
that and you know, but but as souls, we can travel in groups
and we'll agree to incarnate together to work out a certain soul lesson and issue.
And yeah, so I don't think, you know, I think we
all live on in some way or another dimension. Well you probably believe,
Lok, you feel connections with people, but I think there's a there's a
you feel a lot of linking of the spirit. You know, you see,
you get drawn to the I don't mean in a romantic way, although
that does happen as well, but you know, you just feel like you
like that person instantly for whatever reason, you know. Yeah, and that's
when I kind of think of a soul connection or a past life connection,
like you're sensing who that person is at a soul level. And some times
there can be recalled on a past life that you might have snippets of remembering
who that person was in your past life. And a lot of times,
you know, they'll say that you know your soul partners, like your beautiful
wife, that I wouldn't doubt for an instance that your soulmates, you know.
So you know, there's that lovely piece of it. But that's the
funny thing, you know, I've said, when we got together all about
eleven years ago, now after about a year or so, it felt like
we've been together all our lives. You know. It's strange as if all
that all that past, it just didn't matter. If there's somebody strange,
there's a strange thing, you know, and we still feel very close now.
So I see, Yeah, that's where I think absolutely past life connections,
soule connection. Yeah. I mean you talk about out of body experiences
as well on your on your sheet of paper here I've got in front of
me. Well it was pretty It's good for me. So it seems to
be able to thought my brain to draw things to talk about. There's always
it's all about anyway. But yeah, just you remember a little bit out
of experience. And what's interesting about those they both happened in my childhood.
The first one god happened. I was like maybe five, I was very
young, and we were at our house in Brockton. I was on the
swing set and I was I was laying on my stomach on a swing and
just kind of going back and forth, when all of a sudden, I'm
flipped out of my body and I'm looking down at myself. And I had
the clear thought in mind, I'm five, But I had the thought when
I was up there looking down at myself, I said, I thought to
myself, Oh, You've got a good healthy body in this lifetime. Now
I'm five. So that was odd, very odd for me. And then
the second time happened when I was probably about ten or eleven, and I
was just old enough that my parents allowed me to walk up to this little
corner general store that was like maybe a mile away, and I walked up
with a neighbor girl friend, and we're walking and we're walking right in front
of our elementary school. And as we crossed over, the walkway stopped,
and then there was the driveway to the school, and then the walkway started
again. The minute I stepped off the walkway to cross the opening into the
road to the school again, I flip out of my body. And this
is so distinct. Every time I tell this story, I can picture exactly
what happened. I'm way up above looking down. I can see myself talking
to Maureen. We're continuing to walk. I'm watching us and from up above,
and then the minute I stepped back up on the sidewalk, I come
washing back down into my body. But the interesting thing is I couldn't hear,
or at least I don't recall hearing us talking. I could see us
talking, but I couldn't hear it. So and it's funny. Since then,
I've had conversations with others who have had out of body experience, and
I guess that's somewhat of a common thing to happen, is that you'll have
the out of body experience, but you don't always have the sound piece to
it. So that was interesting. So again, you know, two out
of body experiences as a child. I've I since have had others, but
I found it interesting that they started when I was a kid. Mm wa.
It kind of suggests that a near death experience is a bit different,
so that a body experience. You know, yeah, because you were obviously
near death, then will you no. And it's interesting. When I came
back in my body with the second time, when I was ten, I
could feel myself come in and I stumbled, and I can remember my friend
Marie going are you okay? And I can like, yeah, okay,
and I felt weird for a couple of seconds, and then we kept walking
and talking, and but I had full recall of that happening. Yeah,
it's it's very strange. So it was that your own experience or you had
several sets said I've had some money, you can can you can you control
it? You know? That's so that's I guess that's a good nice.
I don't know if others are out there that can kind of, you know,
control that, but I know. And they happened like that, honest
god. And then all of a sudden you're just looking down. At least
the two I had as a kid, I was like, oh my god,
this is And then to have the recall of it, I think is
interesting because you would think it's a kid, you probably would just forget about
it. But I never forgot about either one of those experiences. No,
you do remember those types, I knowsically, yeah, I mean, I
mean, I'll can sell you. I had the experience when I was in
more cop Basically, I've set this story on this if you felt just before
the show not not not you. I was in my cot and I remember
screaming out that there was a purple mist came swirling into the room, swelling
all the way over to me, and it scared me to death. I
was only baby, a year and a half, two years old, you
know, maybe something like that, and I'm screaming in baby language. My
father came into the room and saying, what what what you look? What's
about? And I'm trying to say to him about this purple miss I could
still see and wow, it's always stayed with me. And it came out
and it was swelled around the room and went back out the door. Again,
I've always kind of wondered what that purple missed meant? Wow, wow,
But the fact that you can remember that, I remember it, Yeah,
And it wasn't it wasn't a dream because I was actually awake and I
remember my father coming in and I did actually say to him, but I
was in my teens. Do you remember that time when I was a baby.
And I remembered because it always stayed with me. Uh, he said,
I can remember that. Were you talking about this purple mist? And
but as I said, I don't know if if the if the color had
a meaning or anything. You know, it's interesting that it's purple. I
I almost want to think that the color has meaning. Interesting huh. Well,
and look at you with a purple shirt eye. Well, yeah,
I think it's probably the camera. But it's like a movie color meaning for
you. Yeah, I actually do. I do like the color purple.
It happens. I've never heard anybody talk, you know. All. I've
got a theory that when I was that I never knew my grandfather's, either
of them. And I think one of my grandfathers did actually die around about
that time, so whether it was coming to see me or something, I
don't know. But also also in the house where we were living it rented
house living in London actually, and I apparently around about that time, the
lady that we used to rent or we used to live downstairs, she died
around about that time, so maybe she was having the last look around or
something. You know, maybe it was nothing to do with me at all,
you know, but yeah, there was always an experience that I remember,
so I know how just what you mean about when you always remember as
a child, because that's always stayed with me, you know, yeah,
well and I find it remarkable as young as you were, it stayed with
Yeah, the recall, that's that's my asked me again. I'm sorry,
I'll steal in the show. This is your shown because you know what makes
me feel like, Okay, I'm not the only one out there having Yeah,
this is it. I mean, you do think you're a bit weird,
don't you, sort of when you think backward things. So oh yeah,
yeah, well that whole thing with my grandfather, Oh you know I
should share with you an interesting end to that story is that when you know,
fast forward, like maybe a week after he died, we had his
wake and my parents allowed us kids to go. And I'll never forget walking
into the funeral home. It had never been in one had no idea what
was going to happen. And I walk in and everybody's in the room ahead
of me, and I see my grandfather in the casket. Well, of
course I had talked to him just the night before he died, So I
started screaming. We called him Granpy. I started screaming Grandpy's not dead.
He's alive. I was talking to him, and of course my parents like,
oh god. Literally my father dragged me out. I kept screaming,
he's alive, He's not dead, and they had to bring me back to
my grandparents' house because I just got so upset. But you know, if
you're a little kid and your grandfather just visited you on the TV, you
know in your mind he could still be alive, you know. So,
yeah, that's strange. Oh well, that's that's quite interesting. Well,
the fact that you saw it be in the TV. Was there any meetings
that, you know, I've had some people be very interested in that fact,
because now with technology coming, you know, so you know fast and
forward here that spirit is manipulating. I don't know if you've ever had an
experience I have where spirit will manipulate things or my guides will manipulate technology for
me. And it's becoming more and more prevalent. But to go back to
when I was a kid, that was like, you know, TVs were
still being at TV Stan and so even back then, you know, he
was sadly enough in transitioning into spirit that he manipulated himself into that TV which
is something when you think about it. So I always feel that he's just
a powerful soul that he could he could maneuver that they do seem to.
I mean often you see it on some of the ghost programs as well,
that they do to lights on and often things like that of some ghost outs
and you see the torches going off to questions and it's a way to which
is something quite amazing to me. The first time I saw that, I
thought, I can't believe this. You know, the magt toolches. They've
left a few sorts scattered around and they were sort of asking questions to them
and they were actually, you know, it wasn't fixed because you know,
you can have a turn of water off. So well, what's interesting about
light, David, is they do use light a lot. And I know,
for me, I am just I don't know what it is, but
I'll you know, for instance, I'll drive down a road that has street
lights on either side. This has happened more than once, and all of
a sudden, every single street light will flash as I'm driving down the road
and I'm thinking, oh my god. So I'm kind of thanking everybody,
going wow, and I you know, welcome down the road, and there'll
be times when I'll walk into a room and a light will either come on
or go off, or flash on and off, or I've gone to turn
the knob on a lamp and the bull burst. So it's funny. I
learned through someone else there's a term for people who kind of have this manipulation
of electricity, and it's called a slider. And I've never heard of that
before, but when I googled it, I was like, whoa, whoa.
So pretty much everything they listed I has happened for me, you know,
as far asulating electricity. It's very interesting. So I again, I
have no idea, although they do say, you know, if I vibration,
if you vibrate at a higher level, and I have been told I
do. I can feel that, you know. I did some extensive training
when I journey to Guatemala to do a quantum of bas of healing, and
what we were doing is we were trained to elevate our vibrational level through very
very involved breath work, and so we were technically I'm back this is back
in the day working in fourth and fifth dimensional energy. It was my blowing
step and so I think because of that I vibrate at a higher rate,
and that tends to you know, it has something to do with the electricity,
that vibrational exchange for some reason. So it's strange. I didn't notice
as you were talking, all your lots are going on off beyond you.
I'm joking. Well, I told you earlier. I showed that that.
You know. I've done shows and there are funny things that happened with the
lighting in my bad joking. Sorry, it's all sense of you as well.
I love it. Now, I'll tell you what it's. When we
were say, no, just we used to do salances and things, but
we'd always have a candle and we often seen a candle flame go right up,
right down, so almost going out and then coming right back up and
going you know. I mean, whether it was some sort of a funny
candle, I don't know, but that happened quite often, you know.
Oh interesting. Yeah. I was always too much of a scary, scaredy
cat to do a seance. Yeah, we did the Ouija board a little
bit. I wasn't too comfortable using that. Even to this day. I
won't use an Ouiji boarder. You know. The funny thing is on a
little bit worried about we're using it in my own home. I don't want
to do it to somebody else or if we're going a ghost hunt or where.
But they do it in but they do open and close it properly.
Okay, Yeah, that's important, and that's what I think a lot a
lot times. What happens is my personal belief is that you know you're opening
a portal when you're doing a seance, when you're doing an Ouiji board type
of thing, and you don't know what's going to come through. So there
have been some you know, of course Hollywood exaggerates it all, but you
know you are opening a portal to the spirit run. I mean when we
used to play around with a team and we were playing around with it,
obviously did in the evenings. We never did anything like open and closing it
properly. I mean really, we didn't even have a weigi board. We
used to just cut out numbers and things and put put them around the table.
But yeah, but some experiences we had was quite amazing really as kids,
or as kids as teenagers, and sometimes that glass will be really spitting
around that table. You don't really really fill the power. Yeah, going
around and actually going right around the edge of the table trying to knock the
cards off the table and things like that. Really amazing thing coming through there.
Woww Yeah. But I mean did that affect me? I don't know.
Did anything attach itself to me? I don't know, but I'll say
I'm still here, I'm still living. And we did have some strange experiences.
I must say. Anyway, Well, most boy you mentioned about levitation
experience, is that that's some Oh boy, that that was a big experience,
David, And you know what, to this day, I I tried
to understand what was going on. I'll share the story. It's I hear
myself tell it and I think, Okay, really, how in God's name
did any of that happen? But it happened. And so there was one
night, this was in my other house. I'm in bed and I hear
and I'm you know, on a sweep state. I hear this most stunning,
stunning harp music. I mean to the point that I'm in a sleep
and I hear the music and I think to myself, my God, did
I cross over and go to heaven? I mean, it was otherworldly,
but it was definitely I identified it as a heart. It was just so
gorgeous, and I can remember I opened my eyes thinking, all right,
did I maybe leave the TV on and it went to some kind of weird
music channel. Nope, I opened my eyes and the TV is off.
I'm hearing the heart music. And when I opened my eyes, I could
not move. Total sleep paralysis. That is one of the most scariest things
I've ever experienced, is sleep paralysis. Oh God, was that horrible.
So I'm but what I realized was not only am I hearing the heart music.
I am levitated up in the bed and I am surrounded by this incredibly
beautiful, bright golden light. And then all of a sudden from so you
know, if you picture yourself laying down, you know your head is pointing
towards the headboard and coming through the crown of my head, which felt like
it was coming through from outside of the house, was coming through the headboard
going into my head. Was this vibrational energy just rushing through my body to
the point where, now, mind you, I'm levitated, I can't move,
but yet this energy coming through me is shaking me because it's so strong.
And I remember meant, you know, in my mind, like screaming
because I couldn't talk. Stop. This is too much. What is going
on here? Stop? Stop? And it did subside. They they,
I keep always saying they and David. I have no clue who they were,
but this energy is being shot through me and I cream. So the
dog is asleep on the bed, which I found interesting. Then all of
a sudden, I rolled my eyes over. Because I rolled my eyes to
see the dog was on the bed, I put my eyes over so I
could see the window that's next to my bed. As soon as I did
that, this is very fantastic, this little being it was. It was
a leprechaun. I know that sounds just ridiculous, but he was a leprechaun.
He I could, I could draw him, and I have dripped.
I drew him in the past, bright red hair beard, He's in a
striped shirt, he's in striped overalls. He has these little shoes that curl
up at the toes, and he's and he comes through a pane in my
window. So it was like a twelve over twelve six over six panes.
So it was about this, why he comes through, not that he breaks
through the glass, but he comes through into the room through the pane drops
into the floor. Well, here's the best part. The dog sees him.
So so as soon as that thing jumps into the room, my sleep
roles stops. I'm back down in the bed. The music stops, the
whatever was surrounding me stops, the energy stops. The dog is going crazy
and she's barking. Well, this thing jumps in the room and starts running
through my bedroom. The dog jumps off the bed, chases it through my
house, only to have a disappear. Because I get out of the bed
too, I'm like, oh my god, that just happened, and only
to have this little being, whatever it was, disappear. Dog couldn't find
it. I didn't see it. But I tell this story, and every
time I do, I feel validated in a way that the dog saw this
thing. She saw it. So it wasn't like, you know, I'm
in dreamland and I'm seeing this leprechaun. I mean, it was full three
D. It was remarkable because in your mind you look like you would picture
a leprechaun, and I know, you know, oh well you kind of
made it up then, you know, you know, you know, all
the storybooks tell you what a Leprechun looks like but I mean it was three
D and it jumped in the room and the dog. Sorry. So that's
my argument to you know, kind of confirm that, Okay, something happened
here, I don't know what. And the other thing Dave and over the
you know, this goes back a few years. I've had a chance to
think about this, and I think, you know, I think dimensionally.
I think in whatever state I was in, I was in a different dimensional
state. And I think this this being, you know, the fairies,
the leprechauns are all the elemental realm, that there was some type of a
portal opening with whatever I was experiencing happening that allowed this little creature to come
into my dimension and then to have it just all stop, you know,
and then I'm down on the and but I will never as long as I
live, forget that harp music stunning. And there was one other woman I
told the story too, and she's, you know, she's had her experiences
kind of like mine. And she said, you heard the heart music And
I said yeah. She goes, oh my god, You're the first person
that has told me they've heard this heart music. And I said, yeah,
and I'm describing what I and that's exactly what she heard. So she
had us an experience where she heard the heart music. She didn't have the
rest of my experience, but she too said it was an otherworldly sound,
you know, but it you know, So I to this day, I
don't know exactly what happened, but I'll never forget it. And it's interesting.
I feel that that energy being shot through my body. I think they
were working on me. And I do vibrate really on a high end,
high side, and I think it's experiences like that that that has helped to
elevate that vibrational level that I'm at now. The only thing I can think
that because it is one of the weird ones, you know. Yeah,
I mean, I've got to say, if you if you have told me
a story of an al for a goblin or whatever two years ago, or
as you described, what was it, which it's all kind of the same
thing, aren't they'd have probably thought. But recently or a couple of years
ago. For about a year or so ago, now, I met a
lady called Katie Ray. We've got over here, and she's kind of a
very elliprical expert, and so write her name down, Katie Ray. Yeah
it's a A R A E. Yeah, she's on Facebook. But she
she gave a presentation talking about fairies and goblins and all that type of thing,
and she explained that they're not also like the Disney characters, some of
are quite quite nasty, you know, some of the But she's had quite
a lot of experiences with her anyway, and I'd wanted to try and put
you in touch with her because I would love that because this is such a
weird experience, but it's a very vivid one. So I mean, it
wasn't like I was dreaming. I was a weak you know. And then
to have the dog see it, Yeah, to me nowadates the whole thing.
All just fairy stories, like you say, a couple of years ago.
But her presentation, she made it so come alive, so believably,
and you could tell her she wasn't just pulling the world of your eyes.
It's because she's very credible, which she is very Yeah that's the word,
very credible. So yeah, I'll put you in touch with her because I'm
sure you'll look. I would love that, love for her to just hear
my story. Right, Yeah, I'm sure she'd be fascinated, but she
probably told you a few of her own. Oh good, even better.
But yeah, that's brilliant. That vibrational thing you mentioned about as well.
I remember having a very vivid dream a few years back now, probably about
ten years ago. And funny enough, in this dream, I was I
woke up in a start, and I remember an echoing voice saying, it's
all in the vibrations. It is, so it must I may well have
been doing some of this actual traveling that you were talking about, and I
was been giving some information, you know. Trust you know, I always
say to people, and I have to remind my own self, you know,
trust that intuition. You know, if that's your gut feeling, I
go with that. Yeah, But at the time, it didn't make a
lot of sense to me, you know, because it was like someone was
laughing. So it's all in the vibrs and that said, you know,
so that must have had some sort of a meaning. You know, it
definitely is all about vibration. And for me, sound, sound and vibration
and you know, certain healing medalities those are key factors in you know,
some of the healing work that I've trained in is just that the vibrational sound.
And when you mentioned about him coming through the window as well, obviously
we know that nothing is solid, so there's nothing to stop things vibrate,
vibrating through something, you know, which is kind of and things like that
will be exactly. And you know, we hear of the stories of people,
you know, being abducted. They're going through their homes. How does
that happen, you know, going to the room for yourself. Well,
friends that can you know they can? Then Ronny Conciller exactly about being vibrated
through the road through the roof. Yeah, I know. I woke up
to add a little short story about the levitation thing. In fact, I
told this to Ronnie and Philip because I thought if anybody would know about this,
they would is. I woke up in the middle of I'm out of
my bedroom. I'm not in my bed. I'm in the corner of a
den room that I have off the kitchen, very open floor plan, and
i am elevated. I'm being held as I'm literally held by unseen hands,
and I'm at the ceiling, so my head is at the ceiling. I'm
suspended there in the corner of this room and The freakiest thing about it was
again the paralysis of God. I hate that. I can remember the way
I was facing. I could look into my bedroom, and the freakiest thing
was my bed was empty. So here I am near the ceiling. Now
I can't tell you was I being abducted? And did I wake up in
the middle of it? I don't know. And then again with the sleep
paralysis, you could only talk in your head. You couldn't voice anything,
so I can remember screaming for God, just God help me. God helped
me. And then I thought of my very powerful teacher. His name was
Zenos x e n Os, and I screamed his name. And the minute
I screamed his name, it all stopped. I'm back in my bed.
I realized something happened, but that I'm now back in my bed, so
I felt a little more safe and not so crazy. The sleep paralysis was
gone, so I must have fallen back asleep. But the next morning I
had absolutely recall of that happening, and it creeped me out something fierce.
So I to this day do not know exactly what that was all about.
But again you know that the paralysis God, that is the worst feeling in
the world. Yeah, it does sound quite scary because you owing something lot.
I think, was it going to be pervident? Well yeah, yeah,
well I stay this way, well I come out of it. Yeah.
Yeah, that to me is boy. I could do without those experiences
for sure. Yeah. And also you'll give it a you'll give it an
example of what is actually liked to be like that as well. You I
mentioned people that are actually like that, and you know, it puts a
whole perspective on you know, someone who you know, God bless them,
is in that state of paralysis in a permanent basis, and all they can
do is move their eyes, you know, like what happened with Stephen Hawkins.
You know, that dreadful disease he had in his condition there towards the
end. I can't imagine, especially if you've been a fit human being.
You know, Christopher Reefers, the superman, I mean, you know,
just a small whole accident, wasn't it. Yeah, basically he ruined his
life. Yeah yeah, and he was a young man too, and what
a shame. Yeah. Do you have any recognition and recollections of past lives
and reincarnation? Mm hmmm, I do. Yeah. Yeah, So when
it goes with it, it goes with all the thing about so I've better
experiences and everything, doesn't it. Well, you know, it's funny.
I mentioned my teacher who came on my path in twenty fifteen. In this
lifetime. He he was living in Australia. It was very he is a
very powerful soul, and he took me on as a student. We had
a mutual friend and he he I have five letters from him that are absolutely
stunning. I've kind of got them here near me. And he would confirm
for me past lifetimes I had only if I had some recall of the past
life or I was having visions of this past life, and then he would
confirm these lifetimes. But he would never upfront say oh yeah, you had
a lifetime here, there and forever. So it was interesting how I learned
of some of these lifetimes. And then again some of this what I call
sacred travel that I was guided to take. It's when I'm in some of
these places that I will have recall of these lifetimes. So and then I
would come back from these trips and I would write, you know, Xenos
a letter because he was kind of off grid and our mutual friend would transcribe
my letters to him. He was going blind at the time, and he
would write me back through her uh and he would let me know, you
know, yes, that was a past lifetime for you and x y z
and U. Sometimes he'll say who I was in that past life. It's
remarkable because had it not been for him being on my path at the time
he was, I would not have known, you know, or connect the
dots, you know, when I'm at these sacred places. You know,
one of the experiences that stands out to me is when I was at Avebury.
I is what usually happens to me. I kind of have this this
guided urge to leave my group and just go off on my own, and
that's usually when I'll have these ridiculous experiences. And so I'm walking down you've
probably been to Avebury, had just two weeks ago, that's right. I
mean the pictures, oh perfect. So this is a good story for you
because you'll be able to place it. So I'm walking down what they called
the alleyway or the Highway of Stones, and there's still you know, you
could see that there's you know, like a walkway roadway, and there are
the stones on either side of the alleyway, and I am drawn to this
one particular stone, and I go over to it, and mind you again,
I'm just kind of guided. I go to not the side of the
stone that's facing the alleyway, but I go to the back of it,
and I stand fully against it, my whole body, just fully against the
stone. And as soon as I did that, it was like I had
an outer body experience or time slop. I don't know how to describe it,
but I am now seeing myself. I'm like, not me, I'm
somebody else. I'm looking through somebody else's eyes. I look down. I'm
in this green, long dress. I've got long, long red hair.
It's very windy. Everything's blowing, and I could hear a lot of people
and sounds around me, and I can remember look and I walk into this
procession and I'm part of the procession. I become part of the procession and
it's a whole. And you know, the time frame looked gosh, it
looked very, very very ancient time frame, and all the stones are there.
It was remarkable. It was at night, a whole procession of what
I knew to be priests and priestesses and carrying torches, and a whole crowd
of us are coming down this alleyway, and there are people who were placed
to stand against these stones, just like what I was standing, and with
their backs against the stones, and these priests and priestesses would put their hands
out like this so that when they came to somebody who was standing against a
stone, they were emanating this energy, healing energy, and the energy was
coming through the stones through these people. So whoever were standing at the stone
for healing was getting the stone healing them as well as the priest or priestess
healing them. It was remarkable to see and I and it was like a
glimpse. It was like this little glimpse of that lifetime and that healing procession
is what I call it. So when I get home, Chris, I'm
breaking it up. And I had other experiences in England that were like mind
blowing, and but that one was like whoa, you know, because it
was like I became I went back into that life is the best way I
can describe it. And so he wrote me back to say that yes,
you did have a lifetime there. It was I don't know if you use
the term prehistoric Britain, it was very ancient time ago, and that the
stones were used as healing stones and that they literally were charged and to this
day they still hold helpful and that that was the way the procession worked,
is that we were working with the stones to heal people. And it was
remarkable. I mean, he validated what I saw and that yes, that's
how they were using the stones. And I just, you know, I
guess. I also, you know, had a past life during the Roman
Britain phase. I was a Druid priestess during that phase when you know,
Rome was ending their part of the Britain, you know, of their presence
in Britain. And then I also had a lifetime at the last phase of
Stonehenge. And I tell you when I was at Stonehenge, Wow, And
again David, it was all about vibration and sound to get those stones to
move to get that whole formation, is what I was shown and he confirmed
that as well, that that was a lifetime. So I've had these past
lifetimes and so I look back on some of this stuff I've learned over the
years is that it's almost like no happen chance that in this lifetime I'm a
healer. I'm tapping into some of the things I'm able I was able to
do in past lifetimes. I've brought forward or you know, guided to learn
certain things like getting my Egyptian healing rods again past life. But as a
healer seems to be the key for me in this lifetime. A seer and
a healer, you know, I've been a clear way into many lifetimes,
I guess so. Yeah, so I it's been remarkable. I've had these
past life glimpses in the most remarkable of places. Yeah, yes, crazy.
When I was Abriel, I was actually lucky enough to be with Andrew
Collin and Hughes. Yes, oh, I enjoyed that post of yours and
the pic often seen the ancient aliens. It's the funny thing is that Andrew
Collins lives about a couple of miles away from me be here, So no
kidding, how fun? Yeah, it's great. But also you mentioned about
Stonehenge Maria. Do you know her as well? Yes, she was at
the conference. I didn't get to meet her. Yeah, that's kind of
her wheelhouse, right, Yeah, yeah, she's definitely said, oh yeah,
cool, she was, she was. She did a talk. I've
forgotten that. Actually, yeah, I don't know where to go with this
now. I mean you mentioned about these strange shadow bees as well on this
piece of paper. Experience with those, Oh my gosh, that was I
mean, we do hear and we do hear about these shadow bees quite a
lot, don't we. You know, well, Malcolm Robinson wrote a book.
In fact, my encounter I'm going to share with you was featured in
his book. I was travel with friends. In fact friends at the time
I had done a lot of travel with. I first traveled to Egypt.
With them is William Henry of Ancient Aliens and his wife Claire. So I've
traveled gosh, Egypt, Italy, England, I've done a lot of France,
a lot of travels over the years. This goes back a few years
now with them, and we were okay, my mind just went blank.
That's terrible. What what did you ask me? The shadow people we were
mentioned happens to be able to. Don't worry about it. Oh so thank
you. No. And a group of us that had traveled together in Egypt,
we met in Nashville, where William and Claire live, and we uh
kind of you know, regrouped, and they had friends who had a farm
up and the Black Hills of Yeah of Tennessee, and they had a beautiful,
big farm up there called Butterfly Hill Farm. And we go and I
just instantly felt this amazing connection with the land. I mean, I felt
this land was powerful, and I was feeling and picking up on a lot
of Native American spirit around me. And so at one point, you know,
some of the folks on this trip knew that I could communicate to spirit
and that I've had these crazy experiences. So we went off to explore out
in the woods is where it all started. And there were all these incredible
old, old trails throughout the woods that surround this beautiful farm. So we
go off on a little expedition and we're well deep into the woods. It
was me and two other gentlemen, and all of a sudden this I could
hear and see, I can fiss hear spirit, and I hear this trampling
of footprints like an army is running through the woods. And I remember I
stopped and I stepped off the path because they were coming down this path a
whole group. And then when I looked, I could see in spirit that
it was an entire group of Native American men who are running through these woods
and they're using these really unique chirping sounds to communicate to each other, you
know, those in the back to those in the front, and they're going
back and forth. And so the two guys could see me seeing this,
but they're going, what's going on? What do you hear? And I'm
kind of live talking telling them what I'm seeing. And it was remarkable,
and so we go, you know, you know, so what happened?
They go through and I could literally feel, David, I could feel the
rush of them coming by me. It was remarkable. And so we come
back and of course they're all of us. They're telling everybody what happened,
and I'm just kind of old and back going. God, I'm not sure
what the heck happened. And the owners of the farm did say that this
is you know, Native American land that you know, you know, shared
a bit of the history and that there were, you know, groups of
them that lived on this land and whatnot. So we go in the house
and they're having putting out this lovely spread for dinner, and so, you
know, the sun's starting to set, but it's still light out, and
we're all in this great room of there's in the house, and I'm standing
you don't got a glass of wine standing in this friend of mine, Loretta
Come stands next to me. She can see. She's a medium, she
can see. And I'm just standing there, just kind of enjoying the atmosphere.
And I look over and along this one whole wall that's right across from
where I'm standing are all these shadow people. And it's a whole group of
them. And that's kind of what's unusual about the sighting is usually you see
one or maybe two, you don't usually a group. Well, this is
a whole group. And I knew them intuitively to be Native American because you
could tell they had like blankets. You could just tell they were wrapped in
something and they were in a group. But I never got the feeling,
excuse me, that they were, you know, manevolent. They were.
They felt very peaceful. So as I'm standing there realizing what I'm seeing because
they're moving, and I'm going, oh my god, and I look over
at Loretta. She looks at me and I said to her, are you
seeing these shadow people? She's like, yep, so again the confirmation.
And so we watched them and we were the only two that could see them,
and they were and I said to her, do you get a sense
that they're evil or we should be afraid of them, or what do you
feel? And she's like, no, I don't feel that at all.
She's I feel like they're almost like the guardians of the land. And I
said, that's exactly what I was thinking. So they felt very benevolent.
They were just a wonderful gathering. And so I told my friend Claire this
and she's like, you have to tell you know. So then she brought
me over and I told the owners what happened, and Loretta came to and
she, you know, she confirmed, and we shared what we saw and
they were blown over because they had been seeing the shadow people too, and
they were nervous and they were worried that they were evil spirits of some kind.
And you know, from what we could feel and pick up on them
and what we saw, we didn't feel that at all. So it was
a wonderful, you know, in a way of confirmation for them. They're
not crazy. They are seeing shadow people, but these are very caring beings
that are watching over the farm, you know, and they had animals and
oh it was a beautiful, beautiful farm. And the sunsets were stunning because
they were way up in a mountain, right on Mountain Ridge. It was
just gorgeous. And you know, so the Native American spirits are there on
that land and they're still there guarding the land. They're overlooking that farm,
and it was really a cool experience to see a whole group of them,
and honest to God, to see them just walking by on this wall.
It was remarkable. I'll never forget that. That was cool. How do
you feel that shadow beings Maybe just that there are a lot of golds of
whatever position, you know, if they if you say a shadow being in
a house, for instance, maybe they're golding their house. That's the chosen
profession. Yeah, and you know what's interesting to me, David, and
I don't really know the answer to this, but you know, I wonder
sometimes are shadow people? Are they souls that haven't fully crossed over? That's
what there was? There was that or there she got this chosen job that
they're doing. I think so. Yeah, But then again, there are
you know, ghosts that stay attached to a certain place, and you can
see them more like they'll appear, you know, whereas a shadow person.
I don't understand why they always stay just as a shadow, I guess is
what I wonder, you know, why can't they materialize a little bit more
or if that's just they've evolved to a point where maybe they're mostly crossed over,
but they're in this little in between area where they're just appearing as a
shadow but vibrate on a different plane. No doubt. They probably just outside
of our field of vision, you know, operation plane. Yeah. It's
very interesting though, isn't it. But I mean I've never I'll never be
lucky enough to see that well, you know, you know in Malcolm's up,
and I've talked to Malcolm over the years, is that you know,
there are definitely some people who are having nasty experiences phenomenon. Yeah, but
my experience was was not that it was it was it was lovely. It
was a confirmation that they're there and that they're just overseeing the land and the
family that live on the farm. Yeah, and the animals you mentioned,
Malcolm Robinson. I'm in these book as well. What was the incident we
happened in Nottingham about stones, about a stone like what we were in the
galleries of Justice, I think Justice Galleries or something now, but they've got
dungeons kind of things like prisons downstairs, right right down under the because it's
like courtrooms you see on the top floors, but they've got like a prison
part of it underneath. Malcolm and I were actually walking from the basement up
stairs. There was stone steps. We're walking up the stairs and as we're
coming almost to the top, there was a sharp crack on the floor behind
us. There was nobody behind us that you know, and what the hell
was that? And it was dark as well, and Malcolm got his I
think he've got his phone out, some bit of shod. There was a
stone laying on the on the one of the steps. He picks it up
and we can only assume it must have been that that. I mean,
we don't know. I don't know for sure. But it felt warm as
well, so whether that whether that was in a pool or something. But
that's said the stories in the book. I mean, all I can all
I can say is if it was that stone and somebody has thrown it.
Normally, if if a stone is thrown on concrete or you'll hear it bouncing.
But this was just one sharp crack noise, you know. And so
that story is in the I think it's in Paranormal Case Files, volume three,
and I think it is Oh okay, yeah, I know, I
think I've been buying for look that one. Yeah, that one's tie.
You know. I'll share with your quick story about you you bring up the
stone thing. Yeah, yikes. So again, I'm in my other house.
I'm in I'm in the bedroom of that house. Well, I had
a friend who had heard me speak about some of the incredible things that were
happening at that house. So she wanted to kind of feel the house for
herself. She wanted to come in and get a sense of, you know,
maybe what could be going on, and pick up something herself. And
she was one of these people who worked as a healer and with selenite.
So she had these big slabs of selenite that were like this is big.
They weighed easily fifteen to twenty pounds a slab. And she said, I'm
going to bring over these slabs of selenite and maybe, you know, we
can sit on them and meditate and maybe call forth some of whatever's happened in
your house. I'm like, okay, fine, So she comes over.
So I had, you know, a lot of activity had happened in the
bedroom, and that's where I had that experience. I told you about the
levitation and the Leprechaun and all that. So she was intrigued. So she
brings we both she gave me. I picked out a piece of selenite.
She had a piece of cell and it, mind you, Honest to god,
they were like fifteen to twenty pounds. They were heavy. So we
go walking into my bedroom. My other dog that I lost, Bella at
the time, was there with us, and she started acting really weird,
like she started circling around us and panting and it was very odd behavior for
her, and I thought, oh god, what's going on here. So
as we're standing in the bedroom, we're both holding our selenite. My friend
put down her selenite on my bed and I had one of those pham mattresses
that you know, the celen It just literally sank into the phone mattress.
And then I'm standing there with my No, I'm gonna put mine down too.
These are having so I put mine down right next to her. So,
mind you both these selenite slabs are in the middle of my bed,
sunken into you could see them indent into the mattress. So we're standing near
them. We continue to talk and the dog continues to circle and get more
upset, and I had my back to the selenite. Were standing facing each
other, and you know, she's going on about I don't know, should
we sit in your bedroom or go upstairs or what. When all of a
sudden we heard this incredible, huge crash, and I screamed. The poor
dog goes running, and we turned to look. One of those fifteen to
twenty pound pieces of seleni as she was, my piece of selenite, had
flown off the bed, landed two feet away from the bed on the floor.
Now there's no way that selenite slipped off the bed, just absolutely no
way. This was picked up up and this was thrown off the bed and
landed on the floor. And we just looked at each other. My God,
that creeped me out, like I can't tell you. I mean,
if she wanted to have an experience, yep. So yeah, I mean,
you know that spirit could pick up a fifteen to twenty pounds and heave
it I mean literally two feet from the bed. So it wasn't like this
just kind of slid off and fell down. I mean this was throng.
Oh okay, imagine, I mean it was sinking to the mattress, so
there's no way it's going to be just still rolling up. That's the weird
part is I looked at the bed and you could still see the imprint of
my slab of selling in the mattress next to hers. And it's funny.
I over the years have kind of come I've had a few people weigh in
on that experience, and a couple of people have come to a consensus that
that was almost a warning sign for me. This particular person who was came
in my house with the Selenite evidently kind of proved to be a less than
truthful, upright, upright person in the spiritual community. So I think that
was a way of my guides kind of going, Okay, pay attention,
get away from her. You know, I don't know, I just kind
of have come to that conclusion over the years that that could have been a
warning for me. Warning. Yeah. Well, you know I've heard that
sort of the thing before, that you do get warning from to keep away
from certain a few less over the years. Yeah exactly. I'll tell you
what, this has been really brilliant talking to you. We've got so many
things that we could cover. Okay, well, I've got to get you
back on the show again. Sometimes, can we come back because we haven't
even got into we haven't even talked about God. We'll all see you.
So if you if you would come back on perhaps in a couple of months,
we would be brilliant and we're talking about aliens and UFOs and all sorts
of things. There you go, sign me up. Absolutely, I'll hold
you to that. But it's been great talking to you. Okay, thank
you so much for coming on. I hope you have a lovely Christmas.
And oh no, merry Christmas to you and everybody out there listening. I
know as this show goes as this show goes out, it will be going
out on Christmas Day, believe it or not. So Merry Christmas, everybody,
Merry Christmas. So really, David, this show we're taping, we'll
go out on Christmas. It will go out on Christmas Day, oh my
goodness. So hopefully people will be listening on Christmas Day and over the Christmas
period for it here and in the US, yeah, and all over the
world hopefully. Yeah. Anyway, I think so you take care of yourself
and thank you so much for coming on again. Then we will do it
again. It's been an honor. Thanks you, my friend. No,
thank you, take care of yourself. No cheers, bye bye bye,
cheers, cheers, there we are. That was Kathy Cogliano. Thank you,
Kathy, Merry Christmas to you. Right, as I said at the
beginning of the show, this is the last show of the year. The
next show will be on Monday, the eighth of January, and that will
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great guests for you, as I always do. Yeah, I'd just like
to say thank you once again for all the people that voted for the show
in the gp IN Awards. That's the Ghost Planet Network Awards, which I
still don't know the result of yet, but we're in the top three,
so that's good enough for me, to be honest, Just to be nominated
is great. Anyway. I shall leave it there and I'll speak to you
in the new year. Take care, everybody. David Young signing out for
twenty twenty three. Bye bye everyone. Paranormal Dimensions is as great and powerful
as our celestial starves up. And although it's expending thousands of pounds of energy
every minute of the day, have no fear. There's plenty left. Paranormal
Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on the Paranormal UK Radio Network.