WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:08.119 You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety seven to one, The Freak all right, 2 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:13.160 thirty minutes Ding Goose Morning News and nine ten, we'll have a celebrity 3 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:20.000 chef who was on Next Level Chef and he, uh, God, tell 4 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:22.519 us about that experience. I don't have always been curious about what happens to 5 00:00:22.559 --> 00:00:25.920 you gone on these shows. You can't really talk about what happens. What 6 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.879 happened to him is I'll tell you he got eliminated all night. We can 7 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:32.000 talk then, right, so he can talk speak freely. Are we gonna 8 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:36.320 ask him if Gordon Ramsey chewed his ass? Yeah? I think we can. 9 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:39.719 That's the one thing everyone wants to know. I will say that they 10 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:43.399 get put in a couple of weird positions with how to make their dish. 11 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:45.960 And I never watched the show be for but I saw it after the lines 12 00:00:46.000 --> 00:00:50.000 forty nine ers the other night. And uh, he was told that his 13 00:00:50.039 --> 00:00:55.520 pasta was terrible. Oh but this guy actually is known for making delicious food. 14 00:00:56.359 --> 00:00:59.200 Check him out. It's one of our listeners friends who kind of made 15 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:02.399 it work. So but let's get into this. Oh yeah, I did 16 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:06.239 want promote Ian Kensler Michael Young in studio today at the same time with the 17 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:08.280 Ben and Skins Show at new huge full hour, right full hour. I 18 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:12.799 love maybe lower in studio, it's a whole different thing. Yeah, they're 19 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:17.159 gonna just be chopping it up. It's gonna be great. That's gonna be 20 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:21.280 an awesome listen, don't miss that this afternoon on the Ben and Skin Show. 21 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.680 At noon yesterday we had Jason Kidd on about nine forty. We actually 22 00:01:23.760 --> 00:01:29.640 ended our show with Jason Kidd and Danny's got a kind of all the audio 23 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:32.680 here in his computer. We'll start with what he said and what kind of 24 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:38.439 ended up making national headlines. The first question was just more about Luca's night, 25 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.560 Yeah, the big seventy three night. But then you'll hear you know, 26 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.920 the answer end. And then Danny, you know, pressed back on 27 00:01:45.959 --> 00:01:49.400 what he said on his first answer. I've said this before and I'll say 28 00:01:49.439 --> 00:01:53.959 it, you know, for as long as I'm here. He can't take 29 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:57.079 this young man for granted, he's better than Derek. He's in the in 30 00:01:57.120 --> 00:02:04.159 the in the atmosphere of MJ the best to ever do it, Lebron Kobe, 31 00:02:04.719 --> 00:02:07.479 and so just to appreciate what this young man is doing to day, 32 00:02:07.479 --> 00:02:13.879 he's at twenty four is something that Dallas has never seen. And that said 33 00:02:13.919 --> 00:02:17.159 this, internally, he is better than Dirk. He does things that Dirk 34 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:21.840 could never do. And now it's you know, the opportunity of getting the 35 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:27.319 right people around him to ultimately win a championship. You just said two times 36 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:31.439 that Luca is better than Dirk. Dirk won a title and had been to 37 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:37.000 two. Do you feel comfortable saying that on a guy that has not made 38 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:40.560 even made the finals yet? Yeah, MJ is the same way. MJ 39 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.719 didn't make it into his thirties. This young man is twenty four and is 40 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:50.479 breaking all the records that stand in front of him, and he's a winner, 41 00:02:50.719 --> 00:02:55.080 and his ultimate goal is to win a championship and he will get there 42 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.240 and not just you know, win one, but he will win multiple on 43 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:04.680 when it's all said and done. I would say from a house cleaning standpoint, 44 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:07.560 MJ won his first ring at twenty eight. I think was determined he 45 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.639 had won two by the time he hit thirty, So so yeah, but 46 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:15.639 still it points right lucas twenty four, and I don't think any of us 47 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:21.439 disagreed. I know, I know, I mean, since for a couple 48 00:03:21.439 --> 00:03:23.759 of years now, his pace of numbers, if he has the longevity that 49 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:27.879 Dirk has, his numbers are going to be a I mean, they're going 50 00:03:27.960 --> 00:03:34.159 to be top five all the time. If you can compare Luca's numbers and 51 00:03:34.800 --> 00:03:39.159 the Eyeball test to Dirk at this age, it's no question. Yeah, 52 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:45.719 no question. And I think that the follow up question, which you guys 53 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:51.319 liked, I said comfortable rather than confident, because I wanted him to say 54 00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:57.039 it was an opportunity to put to add context to this and the way he 55 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:01.360 framed this and the way that it reads this isn't edited. This is what 56 00:04:01.479 --> 00:04:08.240 he said. There was no sneaky way of trying to get him to say 57 00:04:08.240 --> 00:04:12.000 something that he didn't mean, or twisting his words. It's like, dude, 58 00:04:12.319 --> 00:04:15.959 I know what you're saying here, but if you don't clear this up, 59 00:04:16.519 --> 00:04:19.079 people are going to run with this and this is going to turn into 60 00:04:19.879 --> 00:04:25.439 a point a topic for an argument. And that's the world we live in 61 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:27.519 today, anyway, you know. I mean, of course, so, 62 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:30.560 and we knew that when we knew that what we were doing when we sent 63 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:34.879 this out to people, when we sent this to Tim McMahon, who works 64 00:04:35.439 --> 00:04:39.959 with ESPN, we knew that this was going to be a thing that had 65 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:44.800 the potential to be a debatable quote. The context wasn't provided by kid. 66 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.959 He was given the opportunity. But we know what he's saying. But when 67 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:53.879 you leave it up to interpretation, that's when it becomes a viral if you 68 00:04:53.920 --> 00:05:00.600 want to. Yeah said it. I think again, p did I think 69 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:02.639 all of our My eyes popped up immediately. We all looked at each other, 70 00:05:02.680 --> 00:05:06.800 and not because we're looking for the big hit. I just knew that. 71 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:12.680 I mean, that's that's a hot sports opinion. Yeah, And we 72 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.759 are all such vehement Dirk defenders, correctly so as being one of the greatest 73 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:20.680 of all time. You know, we've all had the Kevin Garnett argument of 74 00:05:20.720 --> 00:05:25.000 plenty who Dirk dominated the playoffs, you know, and then you could argue 75 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:28.839 Tim Duncan is better than Dirk. You know, we present a case, 76 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:34.399 but we're we're very protective of our sweet Dirk. And I as easy of 77 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:40.079 a thought is that Luca is better than Dirk. I've never thought of that 78 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:44.360 sentence before, you know what I mean, And it is sort of revelatory 79 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:47.959 to think, Wait, this is Jason Kids saying that this is not a 80 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.120 new head the new head coach saying that, yeah, not only is someone 81 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:56.800 who is a longtime teammate and friend of Dirk, who in one championship with 82 00:05:56.920 --> 00:06:00.879 him, yes his only championship, who bought arm in arm with Dirk, 83 00:06:01.920 --> 00:06:09.879 and for him to sew clearly say yes, this guy's better than that guy 84 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:14.759 who got me a ring or we got a ring together, and then to 85 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.600 be given the chance to say it again and matter of factly, yeah, 86 00:06:18.680 --> 00:06:21.839 no, I know what I said. He is a better basketball player than 87 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:28.319 Darknovitsky. And honestly, the reaction, I think it's been like everyone's sort 88 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:30.399 of been the same, like, fine, until you get a championship, 89 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.839 you can't really have that conversation who the greatest maverick of all time is? 90 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:39.399 And the greatest maverick of all time is Dirknavitsky. Yeah, but his career 91 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:44.120 is viewed on a twenty one year spectrum and he's saying as a player, 92 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.959 this guy is better, and I don't think you have much of an argument 93 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:54.279 to disagree with that. I also felt like the one the back half of 94 00:06:54.360 --> 00:07:00.160 that clip was maybe underacknowledged when this thing did kind of go viral and people 95 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:03.720 were talking about it on you know, ESPN, and it was printed about 96 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:12.360 on CBS News and the New York Post and ESPN dot com and sports illustratemz 97 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:18.040 euro World. The thing that I thought was somewhat overlooked is he will win 98 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:24.160 multiple championships. That multiple means more than one. A couple is two, 99 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:29.319 but I think multiple usually means more than two. Look, man, if 100 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.639 that's the case, looking at this team right now, lucas about to turn 101 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:38.199 twenty five, you better get on it. You better get on it. 102 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:44.279 And we're under like so less than a week removed from one of the low 103 00:07:44.319 --> 00:07:46.120 points. I mean there's a few right now, but one of the low 104 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:49.439 points in Luca's career, and it is getting frustrated the loss, getting a 105 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:53.120 fan thrown out of the game, who maybe the fan needed to be. 106 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.480 I don't know it's specifically what was said, but it didn't seem like as 107 00:07:56.480 --> 00:08:00.800 we go, and then kind of sparring with the media and a just just 108 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:05.839 an attitude and mood that was like, I'm unhappy right now, and it 109 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.720 just felt a very un I don't know it since we hadn't really seen much 110 00:08:09.759 --> 00:08:11.439 out of Luca. Sparring with the media, a little bit back and forth. 111 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.639 Yeah, you're saying it with the refs. I thought that was like 112 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:16.680 one of the low moments. And hey, Dak's had this when Dak followed 113 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.959 McCarthy in twenty twenty one and blamed that loss to the forty nine ers on 114 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:24.079 the refs, You know, that was a bad moment. You get through 115 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:26.439 these things, you get through these wild week Yeah, you get through those 116 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:31.919 a little emotional flurries. And maybe it's irresponsible of us to read into it 117 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:39.879 to say Luca looks unhappy as an overriding attitude about you know, his place 118 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.120 on this team or this or or where he is in general. It could 119 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.799 have just been I got frustrated and he kind of said as much on the 120 00:08:46.240 --> 00:08:50.360 with the TNT guys when they were discussing All Star you know, the All 121 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.879 Star team and all of that. So, dude, Jordan played pissed almost 122 00:08:54.879 --> 00:09:00.399 always. Yeah, on purpose, but he created his ghosts, Yes, 123 00:09:00.759 --> 00:09:03.759 in the form of his opposition. I think that's probably healthier than making the 124 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:09.519 referees you're your mortal enemy. But I think, look at us both. 125 00:09:09.559 --> 00:09:13.919 I think he just can't hide it as well as the stoneface kind of Jordan 126 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.559 did like, I bet he wants to cook his opposition and I want to 127 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:22.200 say hatred, that's not the right term. But he's got these foes in 128 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:26.360 his head that he wants to whip. But he has this ref thing that 129 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:31.240 is just so visual to us watching and he wears it on his sleeve. 130 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:37.440 But yeah, he's he's I mean, he's on the course. And in 131 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:39.919 the NBA, most of the greatest players of all time, now if it's 132 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:45.120 chicken or egg first, but most of them won titles. They find a 133 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:48.320 way to win a title. They earn that right or they it's inevitable, 134 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:52.039 and there's some that didn't. But I think in the NBA, more than 135 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.360 any other sport, the best of the best of the best win titles. 136 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.799 They find a way to do it. And that's kid looks at this guy 137 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:01.080 like, look, he's got enough time in front of him. He's got 138 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:09.159 ten years of peak basketball. Barring health, there's no way the stars won't 139 00:10:09.159 --> 00:10:13.080 align for a guy this good to be wearing the jewelry. I'm glad you 140 00:10:13.080 --> 00:10:16.879 said that, because the part that stuck out to me is the day went 141 00:10:16.919 --> 00:10:20.639 on yesterday is something that I I'm not sure everyone's picking up and running with 142 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.639 It's something maybe I'm being in my head maybe, but I'm sure other people 143 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:30.399 thought it. Jason Kidd said two keywords here. He said internally, he 144 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:33.840 said this internally like he's having discussions about him behind the scenes, instring. 145 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:35.759 But he said also at the very beginning of that could he said, you 146 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:39.080 know, for as long, one thing I've been saying for as long as 147 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:46.759 I'm here, and I tell you what, Mark Cuban being all right, 148 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.759 I would say winning Luca's approval of Jason Kidd is more important than Mark Cuban's 149 00:10:50.960 --> 00:10:54.759 approval of Jason Kidd. Right now, let's segue to that, because we 150 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.519 spent a great portion of yesterday, you know, in and out of napping. 151 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.200 I never made it, man, I tried and never got sleep or 152 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:07.200 a horse. Yesterday, Kevin editing this content, creating some video stuff because 153 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:09.559 we knew this was kind of gonna be a big story. We wanted to 154 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:13.679 have it presentable on our socials. We wanted to be able to get the 155 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.440 actuality the tape of Luca. I'm sorry off Jason Kid commenting on Luca. 156 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:20.480 Want to be able to get these too, people that wanted it, And 157 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:24.000 it's also easy it's so digestible, like the second he said it right on 158 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:28.000 the segment, and I'm picturing headline Luca is better than Dirk, right, 159 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:31.399 Jason Kidd quote, that's piping hot. It is, it is, and 160 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.440 it's good for about twenty four hours or hell, maybe twelve. Yeah, 161 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.120 So we spent a lot of time doing that yesterday, but we also had 162 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:43.240 time to kind of sit back and let these let this moment soak in and 163 00:11:43.559 --> 00:11:46.360 intellectualize it a little bit. And I think that's smart to do that. 164 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:48.879 And Kevin, you kind of obstruck the match here, but Mikey, I 165 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:54.279 would like for you to kind of kind of say, what maybe if you 166 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.639 look at a little bit deeper level, what a lot of people might be 167 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:00.159 thinking. Yeah, as far as what, yeah, of Kid's mode to 168 00:12:00.159 --> 00:12:03.320 say that we're right, And there's two motives because my next level motive is 169 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:09.159 sort of what he said is sort of a fatalistic viewpoint of his tenure here 170 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.919 of Jason Kidd himself, I almost took and maybe it's again the overthing, 171 00:12:15.000 --> 00:12:20.399 the double overthink is thinking maybe he's almost looking at Luca's career like go, 172 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:26.919 go do what you're destined to do and that may not include him. There 173 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.840 wasn't that much we in his you know, he could have said, look, 174 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:35.600 we can win multiple titles together. You know, it was sort of 175 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:41.399 he's gonna anyway, and I took a little bit of a finality to how 176 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:46.919 he delivered that. But the more overt I think thought is to say it 177 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:50.960 out loud, knowing that it's going to spread like wildfire. It will clearly 178 00:12:50.960 --> 00:12:52.679 get back to Luca, who sees things in the media a lot more than 179 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:58.519 we may know, and know that that'll feel good and that will help his 180 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:05.000 relationship with Luca, which I really wonder what that relationship is and it it 181 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.360 may not be right now and now I don't know, because when you see 182 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.159 some of the things Luca does motioning towards the bench for the time out as 183 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.200 the latest example, he makes you wonder. But Luca is the best player 184 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:20.960 on the team. He may I don't know if I can say Luca's got 185 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:24.840 more basketball smarts than Jason Kidd. I mean, but Jason kidds one of 186 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:28.240 the you could probably count him on one or maybe two hands, the people 187 00:13:28.279 --> 00:13:33.080 you could really argue has a better basketball brain. But Luca, being a 188 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.639 young dude, who's accomplished what he has, at least statistically, and is 189 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:41.919 on the trajectory is probably has a lot of how can you help me? 190 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.399 You can help you by getting other good basketball players in here. I don't 191 00:13:45.480 --> 00:13:48.039 need to hear it. Yeah, and that's why Lucas still bitches of the 192 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:50.960 ref and he doesn't seem to even make an attempt to stop doing it because 193 00:13:50.960 --> 00:13:54.720 I don't think Kid is whipping him with dude, stop this, because I 194 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.799 don't know that Luca listens to Jason Kidd. Well, I don't think it's 195 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:05.759 in I don't think any of us are in doubt that Luca's true reaching his 196 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:13.200 max potential will be when he when his ability is still good are great, 197 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:16.639 and it starts coinciding with a maturity that he gets by being in this league 198 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.879 for as long as he will be. I don't think that any of us 199 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.240 is confused that that will It'll be very unlikely that happens with Jason Kidd as 200 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.360 his head coach. Just as these things go. I don't see Jason Kidd 201 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:33.559 being the Dallas Mavericks coach for fifteen years. Okah had three but him. 202 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.120 That vibe that I took from it yesterday. Look, I don't want to 203 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:41.320 be too dramatic here, but had they not come back in the third quarter 204 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:46.039 and beaten the Orlando Magic. I and this is not in I promise you, 205 00:14:46.120 --> 00:14:48.759 this is just me thinking. I've not talked to anyone. I think 206 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:54.559 today Jason Kidd might not be the coach of the Maps like I think it's 207 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:58.279 it's volatile because of the president that was set with Milwaukee, or I think 208 00:14:58.279 --> 00:15:01.600 he's got a poor track record as a head coach and this team should be 209 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:05.879 better. Granted, Kyrie's never on the floor, it seems. Yeah, 210 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.600 but if Luca's running hot, and if Luca and kids relationship isn't great, 211 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:13.960 like I think, I think it's not good right now. And I kind 212 00:15:13.960 --> 00:15:18.639 of heard that in kids' voice almost like fly fly, fly free, little 213 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:22.480 Birdie, my life is gonna be fine no matter what. Yeah, I 214 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:24.519 think there's a lot of that. I also think in the immediate you're kind 215 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.799 of thinking long term. In the immediate, I think a lot of it 216 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:33.600 was a little bit of damage control. I'm gonna say something definitively. He 217 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:39.240 never contextualized what he said. He never said for twenty four years old. 218 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.000 You stack him up against Dirk Man. He's he's pretty far ahead of where 219 00:15:43.039 --> 00:15:46.639 Dirk was at twenty four. He's got the potential to be better than Dirk. 220 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:48.320 He's gonna need to win a championship or two. But yeah, and 221 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:50.759 when it's all said and done, people are probably gonna think he was better. 222 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.960 He didn't say all that he said right now, Luca is better than 223 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:58.919 Dirk, and that covers a lot of ground. And for him to say 224 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:02.360 something so definitive and double down on it, I think that sends a direct 225 00:16:02.440 --> 00:16:07.279 message of damage control to Luca in their relationship, to say, hey, 226 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:11.759 man, don't get me fired. Bro, don't I got your back. 227 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:17.639 I'm willing to make this kind of an outlandish, overriding claim, and the 228 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:21.360 media is gonna run with this. I think that there was a lot more 229 00:16:21.360 --> 00:16:25.360 intent than him just being flippant on a radio morning show on the Home of 230 00:16:25.399 --> 00:16:27.399 the Matter, I agree and think of it. It's all we mentioned the 231 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:33.879 kid kid child parent relationship in this. Sometimes a parent looks at imagine a 232 00:16:33.919 --> 00:16:36.639 parent Jason Kidd and looks at your kid and you're like, my god, 233 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:40.759 he's a savant. He's amazing. He's also a pain in my ass and 234 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.200 he's a little genius who knows everything and I can't even talk to him. 235 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:45.559 But if that parent is talking to a third party, they're like, my 236 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.360 god, I love my son is so incredible. He's he's he's amazing, 237 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.159 he does this this. But it's hard for that parent to actually look at 238 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.600 this cocky kid and say, I love you. Yeah, you're amazing. 239 00:16:56.879 --> 00:16:59.000 And does that even help the kid? Is that what the kid needs to 240 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.399 hear? No, you're absolut onto something. I think that is that is 241 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:07.359 there was so much there was an element of psychology going on with what Jason 242 00:17:07.400 --> 00:17:11.160 Kidd did. And as a parent, I'll see these memes are these, 243 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:17.200 you know, parent parenting tip memes where they'll talk about how if you have 244 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:21.279 a toddler that isn't listening to you, a way to get them to do 245 00:17:21.319 --> 00:17:25.279 what you want to do is talk as if they're not in the room to 246 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:27.839 somebody else or maybe even a stuffed animal. You know, so maybe we 247 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:30.839 were the stuffed animals. That kid was saying, God, my kid's really 248 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:33.440 awesome. You know, he's the best kid in the whole world. The 249 00:17:33.519 --> 00:17:38.079 kid hears that and he responds to that more than he does if you're directly 250 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.440 saying it to them, right, So I think you're absolutely onto something. 251 00:17:41.440 --> 00:17:45.039 I think it was a little bit of a psychological game that kid was playing 252 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:48.160 yesterday. And I think he's a lot smarter than people may give him credit 253 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.559 for, or or maybe smarter than he might sound when you just when you 254 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.000 just hear him talk, he's very monotone and kind of yeah, we did 255 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.759 this and do the best we can and blah blah blah. I think the 256 00:17:59.799 --> 00:18:03.079 guy pretty brilliant, and I think he knows what's at stake here too. 257 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:07.960 Let's carry this over a little bit because we got the national audios from people 258 00:18:07.000 --> 00:18:14.240 all over the nation on big networks commenting on this. One of them takes 259 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:15.200 kind of little fnny ill jab at the freaking Look, if you want to 260 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.799 weigh in two on this, I think we might be Looney Tunes talking about 261 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.119 this two and four or eight one seven seven eight seven one ninety seven one. 262 00:18:22.119 --> 00:18:26.079 If you want to weigh on on that and think maybe we're onto something 263 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:29.799 with the future of Jason Kidd, there you go make that call. We're 264 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:30.680 gonna get to this next on ninety seven, won the freak