I made a decision. Face sunny sum, I had what's up everybody,
it's a special Friday. We got hat trick in our studio and his lovely
studio our studio. We love it in here. Caitlin's always like, hey,
can I bring my table? Oh? I was gonna bring a bookshelf
of my it's our studio, but no, I got some stuff in storage
that might get you a floor mat. Patrick, I gonna get you a
floor mat and some coasters, absolutely and stock up your mini bar. Let's
do it. Yeah, yeah, I'm open to all of it now that
Uh yeah, we got fake grass outside. I love it looking good out
there. You on you're on bad TV? Do you have people to get
a shout out? No, we don't do that. You should start doing
that. I agree it will probably help us. Don't these people pay like
one hundred and eighty dollars one hundred and eighty dollars every week? Yeah?
No a month? And yeah like ulysses exclamation point um. And Ashley,
she's so chic. And Jacob is Growley. We called Jacob Growley and he
changed his name on Facebook to Jacob Growley. He did got the cutest thing.
I love him so much. And Rita who rocks her bassinet um and
she rocks all of heroes children and Elizabeth Williamson's children and Athena Ginchurd's lipsticks and
Polly Butterfield love her, love her and her missus Butterworth Si and Valerie hits
out of the park and Katerina she is her last name is Mueller and I
always say she's got a check her Muller because I have a two mflats.
You don't want that to get out of control. And gabb and Missy well
Patrick he ran into them the other night. He told me all about it.
Oh, I'll hear about it after the show. And Ee and Rebecca
Kelly she'll take you to planned parenthood hook yeap with some birth control and uh
wow, I just said that straight out. That's right. Supposed to be
hip hop class Aaron who does Alicia escape from the City of elmante And let's
see subcoffing And Sarah Stafano she's snipies on. Jennifer get up, Christa gets
dropped. And Stephanie is a stinker wrinker. Yes she is. She's my
favorite. I know, I remember, no Stephanie. Yeah, we love
her so much. Do we love all of them like they're our children?
Yep. Yeah, so, um we're gonna. By the way, so
before the we heated up the mics, as they say in the business,
before the mics heated up, we were talking about, Um, we got
invited to go to the taping of the reunion for Love is Blind. I
just about lost my mind. Yeah we're going. We're going. We're going
on a field track. The way this happened Islan that was talking about we
started talking about Love is Blind and she said, oh, I'm going to
the finale and I was like, wait, whoa what back all the way
up right now? And then she was like, yeah, I'm bringing Patrick
and Dillon. I was like, and me please, yes, yeah,
we're going. We have to make that happen. Oh, it's it's fine.
Yeah. They know they need audience members from what I hear, but
thank god they're not getting audience members that have an audience that they podcast too
all right and could give spoilers, or they could just you know, pay
someone twenty five dollars and give them a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and have
them just be the face that they cut to with like that, Oh my
god, I can't believe you just right. Oh I can't wait. I
will sit there for six hours. I want I want all the tea.
Yes, it's gonna be good. It's such great television. I like,
this season. Are you enjoying? It's the best season that they've ever had.
I haven't enjoyed reality TV this much, and honestly in years, I
so agree. I'm like excited. I thought. I was like, I
got jipped. I was like, I thought it was gonna go all the
way that when they dropped up four five more episodes last Friday, I thought
I was going all the way to the altar and because I didn't look,
and then all of a sudden, it was like, wait, what where's
the last season? Before they dropped the the finals, the finales and them
not the finale but and the reunion. But they did show one at the
altar. You got one, So I was so on the fourth episode that
dropped, I was like, oh my god, Okay, who's gonna Who's
who are they gonna show? And nobody right, I know, so bummed.
But tonight they dropped the other how many more episodes? So there It's
pretty smart of Netflix actually as opposed to just dumping ten episodes and then everybody
talks about it for four days and then we move on. Right, They're
stretching it over the course of a month. So it was five episodes,
the next week, three episodes, the following week three episodes, the next
week the finale, and then the following week the reunion, in which we
will be attending. And yeah, and at the time of our lives.
Yeah, so I'm podcasting about it. You're Patrick, You are podcasting Cecily
and I over on Rose Pricks just we dropped our first episode, dropped about
We're we're going literally episode by episode, which but what I was going to
say is that I like this show so much that I've watched every episode and
then I have to go back and watch it again so that I can take
notes. But I'll tell you, Patrick, especially directing this at you,
what I'm finding is that, like when I watched The Bachelor or whatever,
it's kind of torturous TV for me. Yeah, I'm not going to watch
it anymore. I like, I don't mind podcasting about it, but it's
so freaking boring and it's two hours. Yeah, Love is Blind. They
cram a lot of stuff it by one hour, and I noticed that when
I watched it again to take notes, I was noticing stuff that I didn't
even notice the first time. I was like, this has got to be
the only reality show ever that I've been like, Oh, watching it twice
is even better. Can I tell you what the secret sauce is? First
off, fantastic casting. There's something about I think reality TV dating shows in
the past, it's always been like, all we need good looking people with
good bodies and whatnot. And I think the magic sauce here is just regular
good looking people, right, and then you have the time to get to
know them so that they either grow on you and you're like, oh,
well, he's cute, or you're like, oh my god, she's a
horrible person. Oh my god, she's all four like Irena by the way,
Oh my god, oh my god, she had sex with every other
contestant. What a horre. Yeah. I feel bad for your audience.
If you're not into Love is Blind, I'd say give it a shot.
If you haven't, or if you're not, you didn't think you'd be into
it is. It's fascinating television, Just that concept of yeah, talking to
someone for a week behind the wall, then meeting them and then yeah,
pretending you find them attractive or yeah, son, I mean without being too
spoilersh but I guess we have to assume people have seen it by now.
Yeah, can we just talk about like what we think because Lynette, before
you came in here, Patrick and I really want your thoughts. Lynette and
I were discussing whether we think so when these couples meet, So what happens
is for anybody, well happens happens happens when they're in they're in these pods
and they can talk to each other behind a screen and they don't see each
other, but they're talking, and so they fall in love, which we've
discussed can happen? I felt I fell for my husband without ever had seen
him or even heard his voice on the phone. Okay, yeah, I
just met him online on AOL instants up you've got mail? Yeah, so
it was I believe it was. So. Anyway, Um, they always
have these couples when they meet in person, so they propose to each other
and then they come out and they see each other for the first time.
Every single time they look at each other like, oh my you are I
am super excited and almost always not actually the case. Prayer that you find
out later that they really did find the person attractive at first sight, right,
and listen. I feel for these people because it is very shocking having
been through it, having seen somebody that I built up months of talking to
them and really liking them and thinking, building up this fantasy of what our
lives were going to be like and what our wedding invitations were going to look
like. This is really happening for these people, and they've built it up
and then they're seeing the person. It is a shock. Yeah. So
there's some acting that it goes into, like being like great, right,
and then later you find out like that person is not really my type.
Yeah, you definitely hide. You have a poker face because you don't want
to look like a dickhead coming out of the gate. Famously Shake in season
to the worst season by the Want a sophomore Slump Shaking, that beautiful Indian
girl embraced her deep deep deep, grabbed a huge ass piece of her ass
and said I just love your ass or something like that. Yeah. Then
later it was like the opposite into her at all. By the way,
thank god they did a real good job. So there was like multiple people
that season that got in there that just were there for Instagram. And so
that's why season three was so much better because I enjoyed the last year and
then this year it is so great. Yeah, right, did you know
that? All? Right? So when they chose Seattle as their casting eric
because you know, they all got to be centrally located that they didn't have
enough people applying that they could actually put on the show. You know,
they can tell when some girl has, you know, a two hundred thousand
Instagram followers and they're all pictures of a guy, girls showing their their ass
or their bodies, like you're already out. They had to also involve Portland
in Oregon just to be able to get it was wondering, Yeah, because
Kwami is in Portland. He's in Portland, so and I didn't know this
little fun detail. They technically only cast thirty people, fifteen guys, fifteen
girls. So all the little pod roommates that you see running around there,
it looks like they got a hundred there, it's really just fifteen and fifteen.
Interesting and so you got, what's what's the percentage on that? I
mean, I guess you got a one in four shot of proposing to somebody,
right, Yeah, But it's interesting because some of the I noticed that
some of the other people that don't end up hooking up. We're like,
well, I some of the people they don't feature not attractive. Dylan and
Patrick call them what we call them barbecue people or seat fillers. So yeah,
they will show up on episode eight and pretend to be best friends with
some of the other members that actually got to you know, live in hotel
rooms engaged, and then we see them for like five minutes in the never
to be seen again, Yes, right, like the one like the one
guy that they showed a couple of times. It was just like to the
Asian girls, what are you Japanese? What do you what do you Korean?
What are you know? What do you four feet five feet tall?
And see the one with the weird ear is who oh no, that's Josh,
the good Josh who came for jack for Jackie. Yes, you know
who Stephanie's referring to is just literally that guy was cast as being the racist
dumbass right because he gets and he has no game. He's completely inappropriate and
all we have him. Therefore, is for the girls to return to the
woman's quarters and talk about what a douchebag is. Right, yeah, but
what if somebody like fell for that guy? Okay, I'm all right,
so so glad, Yes this again. I apologize to your audience if you're
not gonna love his blood And it's fun to talk about. What front it
is? Irena who Even if you're not watching the show, you have,
if you're on Facebook groups, you have to be aware of this girl.
She is Satan's great granddaughter. She who does she think she is? Yeah,
we have a theory on our podcast bad TV that she was considered cast
as a barbecue person or a seat filler. She was never meant to make
it to the big time, right, but she was so cunning and some
of the casts were so dumb, the male cast members, that they fell
prey to her, And somehow she made it to the big time and right
right was there poor Zach. I can't imagine why any guy would have picked
her. She was superficial. She was shout okay one the guy, Zach
has a birthday. It's his birthday. All you do all day is talked
to a stranger behind the wall. To get to know them. This girl
knew it was his birthday. She's going to talk to him the next day.
She completely forgot it was his birthday, right right. But the other
girl who also liked him, did remember it was his birthday. No,
she knew. Irina knew it was his birthday because Blizz was making cookies all
day, right right. She was reminded like, hey, what that Sime
was pretty good with use, wasn't one of those four there for our boyfriend?
You dummy, it is not birthday. I'm making him asked to borrow
a candle She did so dumb. Yeah, so, but this is who
he picked. And then she brabbed to him. She was like, yeah,
I found out it was your birthday because Bliss was making some fucking cookies
whatever. Yeah, right, Like sorry, I didn't right, And he's
like, oh, that's okay, and then proposes to her. Yeah,
by the way, So there is one person we think snuck in because this
was just breaking yesterday, like this is a new story. One of the
cast members. We have photos of him trying to be on the television show
Married at First Sight, another show that I loved. I love that show.
Yeah, Oh it was Cormet. Yep, yeah, oh really I
read that. Yeah, I think I read that on Reddit. Yeah,
he wanted to be on. He was he was, he was on.
He was trying to be unmarried at first, say oh, I don't begrudge
him. Though they are both the same, it's kind of almost the same
show. It's like if you thought it was married to be fair but at
thirty three. I guess if you're considering that as like, uh, because
I always looked at the way that Bachelor used to be is you're working in
the office with a you know, a bunch of your friends, and they
go to the website and then before you know it, you sign each other
up for it, and it's just kind of a fun thing. But then
there's people actively going, hey, you know, I got a nice abs
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do you okay? So I don't. I don't like Mica. I don't
either, and I can't stand her friend. Oh my god, I want
to I just don't like this for you, Mica, this guy, I
just say no, no to this guy. Just this journey is not okay
for scientist. You know, he's still he's a piece of shit. Like
how like we were saying, I don't she gonna get any better? Like
what what is she looking for? You know? I mean this this chick
was not First of all, I don't I was saying this to Lynette.
I don't think Mica likes Kwame or Paul. I think she's just there for
She's one of those there for the followers kind of girls. She doesn't I
know she doesn't like Kwame because she's playing them both. Because okay, so
for anybody that's if you've seen the show, So Quame does not pick me,
likes Micah tries to pick Micah. Mica is like, UM, I
don't know, Like, I just like don't want to leave any stones unturned.
And um, I have a lot of like botox in my lips,
so it makes it a little bit hard to move it. But um and
fillers, but um, I just want to make sure that I have explored
all of my options before I commit to you. Very next day or hour,
she's in a pod with another guy and she's like, yeah, I
think I want to let's be together. Ye. Well, and then the
sad part is Kwame. I mean he picks Chelsea. I mean for the
rest of her life, she's your back up. Yeah, when she sees
the show, she's just gonna be like wait what. Yeah, she's gonna
get her heart broken and you could see it already. I feel bad for
Chelsea. I'm one note on Shelby. She's a self described relationship destroy her
like that was in quotes like really, yeah, you're supposed to be like
a self described like bird enthusiast or something something so horrible about you, like,
don't be proud of that. That's a bad thing. Yeah, but
oh my god, so so so much fun. So we should definitely do
a podcast, like maybe the last episode all all three of us are four
of us. That'd be fun. Yeah. Yeah, So Patrick, what's
happening with life as a dad? You got a pregnant wife. She's getting
very pregnant, very pregnant. She's like almost halfway yep, almost halfway.
How's she feeling? She doesn't like being pregnant? She really doesn't like it.
I'm like, just enjoy this, like, um, you know,
I gotta be sense if one thing I can't say is like, hey,
I'm trying to lose weight because my face, you know, we film a
lot of the podcast, and I'm like, my face looks really read and
fat, you know, I'm a bloated irishman. And so she's like,
I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Don't
talk about losing weight in front of me like it gets it's your trigger for
her. Um, but yeah, I have to say this. I was
gonna bring it up to one of you and ask you how he felt about
this, not to be dark or morbid. I have had all right.
So I've had anxiety issues, you know. I heard John talk about it
too, you know, talking about your struggles. And it mainly started after
college. I took Zoloft. Felt better than I said. I don't need
this anymore. Then in my late twenties, I had a few friends passed
one in nine to eleven and another he was just running in Babboa Park and
died of a large heart. I fell into a depression. I got back
on Zoloft, on it for six years and then off by two thousand and
seven. I've been totally fine, no anxiety until the last three months.
I've gotten hit with it quite a bit where I wake up in the morning,
wouldn't say it's a panic attack. So I did some research on it
and what it is. I'm having this thing, and I guess it's pretty
common. You guys, tell me if you feel it where you feel that
you might die, you know, and leave your kids. So you start
having this, I forget there's a word for. I should have looked it
up before. But you get really stretched out and anxious about getting older,
and then you know, leaving loved ones behind or not leaving enough money,
and I just stress, especially with a I'm an old dad, I should
tell the audience. I'm forty eight years old. I have a baby coming
in August. You know, um all a lot of my friends and peers
they're grandparents at this point. So I've been um, yeah, I think
I might have to get back on some medication because I'm really stressing the hell
out about that. But that's normal, though, Pat, Like, first
of all, you have a toddler and you know, now you've got a
baby on the way, you know, and you're the dad, you're the
you know, and you're providing and you're out there working and you know,
it's every parent I think feels that. I know what you feel like.
I think about that too, like, oh my god, what happens when
we're gone and it's just sunny in Italian? Like, you know, are
they going to be okay? And like, you know, you think about
that stuff. Yeah, it stresses me, it does. It gets stressed
out. Do you exercise, well, I think working with Kalin all day
long, there's a form of that. Our job requires a lot of physical
and being outside, so a lot of things you recommend for kind of your
mental health, I think Kaylin and I do. Yeah, we have that,
but well that's a lot of when I started working with you and your
job, which at first you were just like, hey, come come work
with me. I'll pay you for a day. And I was just working
in an office for so long, and then I was like, oh,
doing this like physical job out in the sun. I would finish the day
tired, but like feeling happy, like right, like I just exercise or
something. And I was like, oh, I like I like this feeling,
which is why I wanted to keep doing it. Working outside is definitely
helpful, except when it's pouring rain on you for two months straight like that.
K. Yeah, that was our past two weeks doing it. And
I have to say this and Stephanie, I definitely want to get your thoughts
on this if you're willing to share. But with Kaylin, I have to
tell you this guy, Kaylin, I've been friends with you for eight years
and I've known you a very long time into you as you know, hard
worker for Corolla. I would drop Kaylin off in forty five degree raining weather
with his rain boots on and just I'll pick you up in two hours and
it's literally just raining on him. Yeah, and I pick him up and
he doesn't have a complaint. That's awesome. And he always like that.
Yeah, I'm like, I told you, didn't you get in the car
and I say, you're a tough bastard. Yeah, that's good. That's
a good quality. It's I guess it's like what um like what I was
just saying. There's something about like working really hard that it's like exercising.
It's kind of like when I get dropped off at U Pond or I start
my day. It's like, oh, I really don't want to do this,
but I know I'm gonna feel better when it's done. And like after
a job is done and you've just done it, it just makes you feel
better. I know I'm gonna feel that way, and uh yeah, I
want to make sure you do a good job too, you know what.
Yeah, But it's it's exercise is so like and I shouldn't be talking because
I haven't been exercising and I need it. But once in a while,
ago on the hike Freeman, or I'll go around my neighborhood. I haven't
gone to the gym, but it feels so much bad. You feel like
that anxiety, that anxiousness, I get it out, you know, it's
it feels good. You know, you don't think about it. But exercise
is so I don't know, and drinking maybe would help. Do Have you
had those feelings? Of course I have, Yeah, But I also think
for you, I have a feeling that this pregnancy is a big trigger and
not just about having another kid, but your wife also went through a miscarriage
that was pretty traumatic and it was really hard on her and on you,
And I think that when you are having a pregnancy, there's a probably a
part of you that stays that has a background worry the whole time of like
what if this doesn't work out or what if something happens. I don't know
how I'm going to deal with that again, right, And so you just
stay. It's kind of like a hyper vigilance probably where you're just like And
then also I think for men, having a pregnant wife is an extremely vulnerable
time because you feel like when a woman's pregnant, even if they're working.
I don't know if she's working, but even when they're working, there's a
time it's coming up where they won't be working and you don't know what's going
to happen, so like it's a lot of extra pressure on I think the
man to like what is what's your plan? What's your income looking like?
And if you're having any kind of like financial insecurity, it feels even louder
and bigger, and like, I think it just takes on this thing that
can make you feel anxious all the time. Yeah. I hadn't thought about
that. Yeah, yeah, it's it's normal, a lot of pressure.
Yeah, yeah, man, And I mean Caitlin has two kids. Yeah,
I don't say I get those thoughts all the time. I'm not even
having you know, like she just said, you have that kind of that
pregnancy that we're in the future. I just think to myself all the time,
Oh, what happens if like I don't come home today and that was
the last time that I saw my kids, And I get like, really
anxiously, why why am I think? Why is that thought popping into my
head? It's making me sad? But it does all the time. I'm
constantly thinking like, oh, that could happen, that could happen. I
could have a heart attack. Yeah. I just was like, oh,
this is why am I thinking this, I'd say, overall, I feel
like I'm so happy in my life right now with my family and I plays
and that is the only Yeah. Yeah, both of you guys are you
know, it's nice to have two dads in the studio. It's kind of
nice. Well, Caitlin and I talk all day long as we work,
and you know, we go back and forth with ideas with the kids and
stuff, and it's nice to have that because I um got so the doctor
that gave birth to Ellie, he passed doctor Goldberg. It's weird in out
Los Angeles when you're watching the news and they say, oh, a bicyclist
and the Santa Monica Mountains was a bicycle and had a heart attack and had
to be airlifted out, and you're like, oh, I feel bad for
that guy. And then you like get a tax She's like, hey'd you
hear your doctor died? Oh? That was him? Oh my god.
So but one of the things the last piece of advice he told my wife
and I when we were leaving the hospital, he said, well, your
life's going to be different. You're probably gonna be hanging out with your single
friends less and you're gonna have a lot more married friends with children, and
it's gonna be pretty cool. That was it. Um, that was the
one constant thing that every single person told me, every parent told me before
I had kids. Was your life's gonna change? Yeah, that was the
one thing everybody said. Yeah, yeah, Well I don't. I think
some people think that their life isn't gonna change. I think the oh,
I'm just gonna have a kid, but it'll be it'll be. Yeah,
I know it won't be. Well, I lived my life so selfishly for
the better part of forty years. For me, this is actually a real
shock to you know. I remember the first uh, like the first week
after Ellie was born. I was like, hey, honey, um,
Greg wants enough and go get beers at Laurel Tavern. No, you can't
go out. You're dummy, right right, Yeah, now, I know,
but it's exciting, but it is, you know, it is.
It can be stressful, and it's it's interesting to hear the dad's side of
the stress. All right, So what you was your favorite little time period
of age? Like, I'm starting to hear that it's between five and seven.
Oh my god, I was just gonna say five is when I really
started liking Elbie. Yeah, I'm not even kidding. I think it's like
sixteen months is when I was like, oh, I get it, Like
I don't think I was. I mean I was. I don't think I
was super bonded. I was. I had all the primal like, oh
my god, I love my baby. I want to take care of her.
I will guard her with my life. I will stay up all night
obsessing about what if something happens to her. But I don't know if I
liked it, like if I felt like And I remember at around sixteen months,
when she was walking and like starting to talk, I was like,
oh my god, I want to eat her face. I want to just
grab I want to just inhale her. She's so fucking cute and so funny
and like already funny, like you know. And that's when I was like,
Okay, I kind of like this. But at five is when I
was like, okay, now we're talking. When they know, when they
know that if they're gonna go into the street, they're gonna get hit by
a car, it's that's that when they start becoming more like and they get
easier too, you know, And that's when you can start negotiating with them
and joking with them, and you know, like, yeah, five I
have they're like a whole person because they're starting kindergarten and you're like Elbie had
all kinds of like very interesting thoughts about things at five. Also, I
just remember it was the moment that I was like, oh, Aaron's are
more fun with her now than without her before. It was it was this
threshold where I was like I will do anything to have somebody else watch her
while I just run to the grocery store because it's it was up until five,
it was more work to have her with the sack and the yeah,
just like you don't know when they're gonna have like a little tantrum and whether
they're gonna be whining at you or whether they need a nap. And then
at five, magically it was like oh she's cool. Yeah, like oh
do come And she was like fun, Patrick, do you do things like
that on the weekend with Ellie? You taker? I tried to take Blake
out to do errands with me the other day, thinking like, oh I
was in school, I gotta kill like for come on, Blake, you
can just come with me to go to the car shop, at the home
depot, and about halfway through home depot, she was I go, Okay,
maybe this isn't working. I always hated home deep when I was k
Now I'm there constantly. Yeah. I want both of you to know as
parenting podcasters, world class podcasters, you have definitely helped me and set me
up because I do there's moments where your wisdom from back in the day we're
talking six years ago, it will hit me in the head. One was
Lynette had said you guys were talking, you said the weekends are the work,
not the weekdays, and that could not be true. Thank god you
said that, because when we got hit with no nannies or no family helping,
and that Saturday morning at seven thirty starts the day and you're like,
I gotta entertain this little fucker. Two is such an awkward age or like,
because you're like, there's not a lot of stuff that they like to
do and they have a super short attention st So even if you're like you
have to have a whole day of like, all right, we're gonna go
to the ninety nine cents store. I'm gonna let you lose the ninety nine
cent stor is so great. Yeah, go loose in the twist section.
Yeah, and if you travel with them, go to the ninety nine cent
store buy a bunch of shit and then just give it to them like every
hour as a new gift, Like here's a straw. Yeah, yes,
and they're like and they're like wow for two seconds. Right, So,
I think what you guys are breaking down is how the f do I fill
a day with these things that just keep them busy so I can get make
it to noon, then make it to the nap. They wake up from
the nap, Let's get them some lunch, all right? How do I
kill from five to seven so I can get a glass of goddamn? Yeah?
It's uh, that's been one of the challenges, especially having been able
to live life on my terms for so long. You get into the habits
of being so selfish that you do need to get into that mode of selflessness
and I just go, look, I'm going to be really bored for three
hours, and oh, here's something that you said. Hey, maybe I
don't want to go out in the backyard and throw the ball back and forth
for an hour. I don't want to do this. That's something I remember
you saying and yeah, all those things are true, and then I also
remember you guys yes talking. Once you get past that, like four or
five, it starts to get kind of kind you get out of the mail
room, and then they start getting invited. Your kids starts getting invited to
do shit, like on the weekends. You're gonna because once they're in school,
elementary school, almost every weekend or every few weekends, you're going to
get invited to your birthday party. And then you have something built in to
do. So one of you guys can take the kid there and there's two
hours right there at Chucky Cheese or at whatever, at the indoor playground,
whatever it is. It's something for them to do. It's cake, they're
running around, somebody else is watching them. You can chat with other parents.
Have you have you met like any other parents? Like are you it's
hanging out yet? One set of parents and they were just here on Saturday.
It was such a fun day. We went to the to the zoo
with the kids and then came back here and had lunch and it killed the
whole Saturday. And I'm like, this is what life on the weekends can
be like. Okay, So My wife and I have had a hard time
bonding with fellow parents, and I think a lot of that has to do
with coming out of you know, the pandemic and stuff, and I think
people are still just a theory kind of relaxing and settling into, you know,
hanging out with strange people they don't know or la And you, guys,
tell me, if this is your experience, it seems like, I
don't know, people wait so long to have kids that by the time they're
in their mid thirties they're not interested in new friends. They already have their
proper friends. So you go to the birthday party at Chuck E Cheese and
there's pleasantries and there's small talk, but there's no Hey, let's exchange numbers
and I we're having a pool party on Saturday. We have not experienced that
yet, right, And my wife thinks it's just that people don't like her.
She already got in a fight with Stephanie at school. So my wife
I was there this, Yeah, he was there when Patrick started going email
there arguing arguments with other parents are legend, stephan So my wife takes the
job of her my daughter's class, the Grasshoppers, they're doing a fundraiser for
for raise money for the tricathon or something. I don't know. So I
was doing tomorrow, That's what I'm going. Yeah, it's like a like
a race, you know, they don't know what they're doing. I'm doing
that tomorrow. So my wife's in charge of raising the money for the grasshoppers.
Are competitors are the fireflies, the owls and whatever, the fox the
foxes, lady bugs. So yeah, ladybugs. So we have twelve kids
in the class. My wife is very competitive, and now I'm like,
oh my god, we are those parents. You become those people that used
to mock and laugh like why are you like in the HBO series Big Little
Lies, where you're so obsessed on the politics of you know, kindergarten class.
And so my wife sends out an email, Hey, guys, we're
behind ladybugs and the foxes. We need We're doing okay, but we could
do better. A guy fire A father fires off an email. I just
sent five hundred dollars. That's not good enough. Exclamation point explanation for five
hundred dollars is a lot of money. Hey, we matched it. It's
a lot of money. We have to beat the Ladybugs and the Foxes.
So, oh my god, they don't play. I donated like six hundred
dollars worth of wine for that fundraiser thing. So and it's all one upmanship.
You know, I'm getting I'm getting totally getting hit. This has got
to be a fancy preschool. I'm not at that fancy. It's first Baptist
over on col II hundred dollars. Either way, I can run over there
if there's ever an emergency when I'm at the conduct can Yah, yeah,
that's right, all right, might call you on that time. You're gonna
regret that. So she uh so, anyway, she's deeply offended by this,
and then she fires back, well you know, I didn't mean it
that way, and gets no response from this guy. So we're at the
tricathon and we're all standing next to each other. She's just being room,
she's just being in charge. She's just being like, hey, he gotta
like get all right, So why is this guy taking it so personally?
He welcome to Los Angeles and people being very sensitive. Oh yeah, brib
Yeah it's or Jason John So he's an actor, by the way, And
by the way, this guy is on a show. He's in that new
show The Swamp or Swan or something like that. Um, so we're at
the tricathon and I go get a slice of pizza or something like that,
and she's all huffy puffy. She just said how you doing to him and
his wife, and the wife said high back, and he ignored her.
And now I'm like, I guess I gotta beat the shit out right,
right, I mean, it's the only choice, right. So anyway,
but all jokes side, I was like, I see, I do.
I think he's being a little whiny by giving my wife the cold shoulder,
if in fact that's not something that she's seeing, that's not happening. But
I was like, well, if the guy did donate that and it was
his family, that is a lot of money, and for you to send
an email out, come on, we can do better. I wouldn't have
sent the email back to my wife that way, but I can see where
that might have been a little insulting. Perhaps. I try and see both.
Patrick, You're very diplomatic. I try and be. My friends just
called me a great communicator. Oh yeah, that's good. That's a good
title for you. But yeah, well, welcome to the politics of school.
Oh, I feel like if I was that guy and I gave five
hundred dollars, maybe I would want the person to be like, oh my
gosh, that's huge, thank you so much. So maybe if he had
just done it and he was feeling like what the fuck? Like now I'm
hearing like, hey, that's not enough money. But he's all taking it
personally because he's an actor, right, that's right. Yes, that he
thinks it's all about him. Narcissists and can't can't handle a rejection, you
know, and feels like why didn't somebody? Why didn't Why wasn't there a
parade in my honor? Right? The five hundred came after the trigathon.
But did he send it to everybody or just to her? To everybody?
Oh my god? Oh, by the way, these for these parents.
So it goes through this filter, this email because all the other parents don't
want their emails because there are some famous people in there. But yeah,
so there's no just like necessarily a group text. But my wife gets it
back where he sends a response. Yeah, so so you want to know
who my wife' knew was client is? Oh, you guys are fans baseball
Justin Turner, the big Dodger. Oh he's hot. He's very hot.
I'm like, wait, wait, why are you over there all day Saturday?
Do you have kids? She's like, no, Okay, he's single.
Now he's married. He loves his wife. I think they're high school
sweethearts. That's cute. Do you remember, do you guys remember? And
Patrick you were there, and Kaylin you were there when we did our San
Francisco show on our live show, do you remember I read an email exchange?
Oh he's not mine. Oh yes, it was my friend who I
won't I will I cannot say her name, but my friend who's many years
ago because her kids are the same age as my kids. So this is
when her kid was in preschool, was going to a little bit of a
fancy schmancy preschool. And one of the moms got mad at one of the
other moms because do you remember this situation that I read? They I read
the email exchange and some of them were famous in there. But because do
you remember this, Kaylin, you played the music underneath it and made it
funnier. I remember you reading the email, but I don't remember. I
don't remember what it was. So it was basically this. It was basically
the mom. It was this two moms. They had their daughter and they
were going to be moving, and so they were going to be having a
birthday party and they were It was all very la speak. It was like,
you know, let's um Melli. Um is very like sad about moving,
and we want to give her some control over her life. So she's
having a birthday party and we're letting her make the guest list. So if
you're receiving this email, you did not get invited to the party, and
please don't take it personally, because we just couldn't invite everybody. Yeah.
So then so then somebody who got that was like what the fuck? What
do you? What's wrong with you? Like and then and then so then
apparently she got a whole slew of responses. So then she wrote back to
everybody and was like, so, um, quite a few of you emailed
us and told us that you were very upset about this, about finding out
that your child was excluded from this party. But so we tried to talk
to our daughter. We tried to talk to I didn't mean to call her
a similar name to Ellie I was calling. I was going from Melissa,
and I was like, that name is really old school. We tried to
talk to Melissa and we explained to her that some of the kids were really
upset and some of the parents were really upset, and she didn't really go
for it, sticking with our original plan. Sorry not sorry, that's hilarious.
I might go one of the moms who was kind of famous, and
I don't I honestly don't remember who it was. She was. She had
been married to somebody really famous. You might remember because I said it at
the show and then that person wrote back again and like they had this whole
battle and then and then they moved Wow, oh my god. Well,
so tell us what's up for what's up? What's going on with you?
Wait, we have to take a quick break first. Let's take a quick
break. So, Patrick, So, what's what's going on with you?
And Dylan? Tell us about your podcast. Well, we're gonna do some
crossovers with you guys, but uh Anne Rose Pricks, but bad TV.
If you want to support us, if I didn't annoy the living hell out
of you because I talked too much, everybody loves you, Patrick. Oh
thanks, but we'll see in that Facebook group of yours. Uh, the
we recap Love is Blind, Life after lock Up, Seeking Brother Husband That
is a shit show. Vander Pump Rules, and God, I can't think
of what else right now. Thank you're doing too much? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, you guys watch The Ultimate Girls Trip. No, but I'm
sure we would if we had one more hour to watch TV in a week.
Yeah, there's a lot of TV going on. What what shows are
you a recapping? We're just doing vanderput We wanted to do a second show
for our for rose Pricks because it's because we found that just doing Bachelor,
we felt like we were we liked podcasting together, and we felt like,
well, some people don't watch The Bachelor, so what else can we do?
So when all the vander Pump Tom drum stand of all uh dropped,
we decided to start covering Vanderpump. So that's our Thursday show and it's fun
and it's a fun show. I had loved it the first few years,
Lena, I think you loved it too, and then right around like they
tried to like bring in like new, younger people, and I think that
didn't work for me, or it didn't work for a lot of people.
I think that's when I stopped watching it too, right, And then it
also got weird that Jack's and um Brittany their their waiters head sir, and
they live in a two point five million dollar house, and uh, you
know, it was all weird, and that's when I think a lot of
people jumped. But boy, Bravo has a lot of thanking to do for
Sandoval. And her name is Rachel. We dead named her. That's her
real name, Rachel. Um. Yeah, we're having a fun time recappy.
We do it with Dylan's sister Ruby. And then we had my wife
on the last episode to fill in, Oh, did you watch the episode
with the tarot cards? Yes, I just watched that one. Yes,
that was last week. So that James DJ James Kennedy and okay, they
gotta So I'm watching it with my wife and I'm taking notes because you know,
I gotta talk about it. And my wife jumps out of the bed
like like she was like a dead person that just woke up out of a
casket, and like what the fuck. She's like, he's our neighbor.
So our neighbor, Marty has illegal tiny houses. She bought a bunch of
like tool sheds for a home depot and she put them in her backyard and
the tarot card reader rents one. So we see him every morning get into
his little Mini Cooper and drive off and do tarot card. Oh my god,
wow, hilarious. I wonder how much money makes doing that. He's
living in a tool shed in Marty's backyard. Oh my god. We are
so you and I together our brain, my brain like yeah, the illegal
part goes right out the window and I'm just like focused on I am so
nice, my nei neighbor, because I do like Marty a lot that I
put up a gigantic thing to block it so when the inspectors here when we
were doing the renovation would not go back there because they would have shut that
down. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Oh that's why you put up that
like tarp yep. Oh interesting, Yeah, that was smart. Good for
you, really nice. I'm a good neighbor. Yeah you are well.
The place looks great, Thank you. I love This is so much fun
and hopefully we can do more of this and you guys come on our podcast
and talk reality a TV. This is so, when's your pool going to
be done? Well? Yeah? Working with Pat the last nine months,
almost a year. This guy that he's got doing the pool is a piece
of work. A piece of work I get. Basically, I made the
fatal mistake of giving him all the money up front. And I know you
did not I did. I did. And I haven't seen him in two
months yet. Oh no, Pat No, I believe it was supposed to
be done just before Halloween. That's horrible. He is he avoiding you?
Yeah? He doesn't respond or anything. So the last text I sent to
him was, look, if I don't hear from you in five days,
we're gonna get lawyers involved. I send him a screenshot of his not his
contractor's license, but the one that he's using, and I said, I
can file this. I can file something I don't want to, but it'll
come back. And he never responded. Wow, oh my god. Because
my dream is let's do a podcast and then go hit that JACUZI yeah,
no, that's gonna be fine. I was thinking that like summertime, that's
did you pay him all the money? I've just had a curiosity, all
right, So and I should know better, because you know, I'm basically
a contractor myself. The guy who did the renovation for our home was so
nice, and I never hear these stories of people saying their contractor was amazing.
He did the job for what he said it was going to do.
He had his little payment system and we paid him handshake and a hog.
I'd recommend him to anybody. And so when the pool guy showed up,
he said it's forty three thousand dollars, and then he said he stopped by
three weeks in a row and said he needed a check for ten ten ten,
and then he and then he dug the hole and he said, well,
I can have this by done by Halloween, but I just need the
rest of the money. I gave him the money. Oh jeez, by
the way, sorry, I know this is probably going long. This guy
was recommended by a client that Klin works for. Well he's a very nice
guy. Yeah, I do. Was turtle pond every other week and he
came highly recommended. Another reason why I wasn't asking questions. I got this
guy who said, this guy's done all these projects for me. So now
this pool guy put me in the position of having to go to this guy
and the guy you recommend it has not shown up in a month and half
I hate to come back and ask you this, but you recommended him,
and it was it's one of those like be careful when you recommend people because
now it's your problem, right, And so I put him in that position.
Now that's weird. So that's why I don't want to see him.
Yeah, I don't blame you. That's uncomfortable. But we're gonna get it
done so we can in the you know, the kids can come over and
we'll do podcasting and make pizzas and the Yeah, have fun. Well I'm
gonna have a great Summer'm really looking for excited. Oh man, Yeah,
I'm so sorry. When we are contractor, I did a lot of homework
on that. But I've been in this situation. The first contractor we ever
had that we did some stuff to our house. Yeah, it was like
we constantly had an issue with like the painter just stopped showing up halfway through
the job, just never came back. And we were like, uh,
well, what's gonna just not gonna be painted? And he was like,
wow, I don't know. I was kind of waiting for him to come
back to the contractor because the contractor wouldn't come every day. So like I
had to contact the contractor and go, yeah, so this painter just like
never came back and he was like, oh, that's weird. He's always
been pretty reliable. So we had to hire another painter to come into There
were little things like that, but I had a contractor. And then on
our new job, Yeah, they never asked for the money upfront. We
paid everything like as it went, and I waited until I think everything that
was done. Then I paid for it right after it was done. The
text thing. We had inspectors the whole time. Um, but when we
and then when we did our outside painting of our house, that guy who
was who was good, but remember letting these stories. I had some some
arguments with him. Yes, he was a little bit like that, like
a little shade, a little shady acting. And then when he would ask
me for money, I was like no that. I was like, no,
I'm not going to pay you. I'll pay you when you do the
next part of it. Then I pay you. And he'd be like,
oh okay, but I can't afford to go get the paint. And I
was like, why don't you to tell you? And then he's like okay,
it's okay, it's Okay, this one. I want to explain to
them, Um, what restaurant do you show up to and the restaurant makes
sure you pay them first and then they'll bring out your taco I'm saying,
I'm sorry, that's what you're saying. Yeah, it's like I can't imagine.
Like Klin shows up to a job, sometimes we don't get paid for
like two months after we did the work. Oh. I have a client
that still hasn't paid me after two months. I have to message him every
week, O hey, uh you still owe me that hundred dollars and each
time it's all caps. Oh my god. Oh I'm so sorry. I'm
gonna get the person on it right away. I'm gonna have yeah, okay,
then pay me. I don't care. Just wow, so sorry over
emails and then it's like, Okay, I guess I'll just hit you up
again next week. I know. I think maybe it's because it's not a
lot of money. I mean, this is different with the pool guy.
But I'm just saying some people are just bad about paying their bills because they're
just like, oh, well, whatever, it's only one hundred bucks,
or it's only this, or it's only that sure, but I mean,
Kaylin and I would never show up and go, hey, we need seventy
five dollars before we do anything. You know. It's that's trade of services.
You know. We're gonna start doing that with our podcast though, Hey
needs and then we'll release the episode. Yeah, yeah, that's what we
should do. Forget the arret comd of business. I'm gonna say this,
you guys are my favorite podcast podcast with oh Patri thank you, well,
you're our favorite. Yeah. Well it's Joe KOI. But you know what's
that guy up to these days? Is he working over at aunt JOKOI?
Yeah, well we're working on getting him on the show. Yeah. I
mean I think you only sold out the forum three nights. Yeah right,
I know. Yeah, but all right, thank you so Patrick, book
and find you on Bad TV Podcast. Bad TV Podcast on Spotify, Facebook
group face we group. That's fun. A couple for crying out louders are
in there. Nice. Nice, Maybe get more now so that'll be good,
all right, Chris Patty, Thanks Kayl Thanks kay you're a parent.
Now, don't suck it up. Letting go