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I made a decision. Face sunny
sum, I had what's up everybody,

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it's a special Friday. We got
hat trick in our studio and his lovely

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studio our studio. We love it
in here. Caitlin's always like, hey,

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can I bring my table? Oh? I was gonna bring a bookshelf

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of my it's our studio, but
no, I got some stuff in storage

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that might get you a floor mat. Patrick, I gonna get you a

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floor mat and some coasters, absolutely
and stock up your mini bar. Let's

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do it. Yeah, yeah,
I'm open to all of it now that

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Uh yeah, we got fake grass
outside. I love it looking good out

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there. You on you're on bad
TV? Do you have people to get

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a shout out? No, we
don't do that. You should start doing

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that. I agree it will probably
help us. Don't these people pay like

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one hundred and eighty dollars one hundred
and eighty dollars every week? Yeah?

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No a month? And yeah like
ulysses exclamation point um. And Ashley,

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she's so chic. And Jacob is
Growley. We called Jacob Growley and he

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changed his name on Facebook to Jacob
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I love him so much. And
Rita who rocks her bassinet um and

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she rocks all of heroes children and
Elizabeth Williamson's children and Athena Ginchurd's lipsticks and

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Polly Butterfield love her, love her
and her missus Butterworth Si and Valerie hits

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out of the park and Katerina she
is her last name is Mueller and I

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always say she's got a check her
Muller because I have a two mflats.

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You don't want that to get out
of control. And gabb and Missy well

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Patrick he ran into them the other
night. He told me all about it.

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Oh, I'll hear about it after
the show. And Ee and Rebecca

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Kelly she'll take you to planned parenthood
hook yeap with some birth control and uh

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wow, I just said that straight
out. That's right. Supposed to be

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hip hop class Aaron who does Alicia
escape from the City of elmante And let's

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see subcoffing And Sarah Stafano she's snipies
on. Jennifer get up, Christa gets

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dropped. And Stephanie is a stinker
wrinker. Yes she is. She's my

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favorite. I know, I remember, no Stephanie. Yeah, we love

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her so much. Do we love
all of them like they're our children?

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Yep. Yeah, so, um
we're gonna. By the way, so

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before the we heated up the mics, as they say in the business,

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before the mics heated up, we
were talking about, Um, we got

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invited to go to the taping of
the reunion for Love is Blind. I

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just about lost my mind. Yeah
we're going. We're going. We're going

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on a field track. The way
this happened Islan that was talking about we

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started talking about Love is Blind and
she said, oh, I'm going to

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the finale and I was like,
wait, whoa what back all the way

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up right now? And then she
was like, yeah, I'm bringing Patrick

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and Dillon. I was like,
and me please, yes, yeah,

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we're going. We have to make
that happen. Oh, it's it's fine.

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Yeah. They know they need audience
members from what I hear, but

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thank god they're not getting audience members
that have an audience that they podcast too

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all right and could give spoilers,
or they could just you know, pay

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someone twenty five dollars and give them
a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and have

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them just be the face that they
cut to with like that, Oh my

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god, I can't believe you just
right. Oh I can't wait. I

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will sit there for six hours.
I want I want all the tea.

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Yes, it's gonna be good.
It's such great television. I like,

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this season. Are you enjoying?
It's the best season that they've ever had.

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I haven't enjoyed reality TV this much, and honestly in years, I

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so agree. I'm like excited.
I thought. I was like, I

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got jipped. I was like,
I thought it was gonna go all the

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way that when they dropped up four
five more episodes last Friday, I thought

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I was going all the way to
the altar and because I didn't look,

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and then all of a sudden,
it was like, wait, what where's

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the last season? Before they dropped
the the finals, the finales and them

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not the finale but and the reunion. But they did show one at the

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altar. You got one, So
I was so on the fourth episode that

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dropped, I was like, oh
my god, Okay, who's gonna Who's

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who are they gonna show? And
nobody right, I know, so bummed.

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But tonight they dropped the other how
many more episodes? So there It's

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pretty smart of Netflix actually as opposed
to just dumping ten episodes and then everybody

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talks about it for four days and
then we move on. Right, They're

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stretching it over the course of a
month. So it was five episodes,

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the next week, three episodes,
the following week three episodes, the next

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week the finale, and then the
following week the reunion, in which we

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will be attending. And yeah,
and at the time of our lives.

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Yeah, so I'm podcasting about it. You're Patrick, You are podcasting Cecily

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and I over on Rose Pricks just
we dropped our first episode, dropped about

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We're we're going literally episode by episode, which but what I was going to

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say is that I like this show
so much that I've watched every episode and

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then I have to go back and
watch it again so that I can take

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notes. But I'll tell you,
Patrick, especially directing this at you,

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what I'm finding is that, like
when I watched The Bachelor or whatever,

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it's kind of torturous TV for me. Yeah, I'm not going to watch

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it anymore. I like, I
don't mind podcasting about it, but it's

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so freaking boring and it's two hours. Yeah, Love is Blind. They

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cram a lot of stuff it by
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I watched it again to take notes, I was noticing stuff that I didn't

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even notice the first time. I
was like, this has got to be

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the only reality show ever that I've
been like, Oh, watching it twice

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is even better. Can I tell
you what the secret sauce is? First

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off, fantastic casting. There's something
about I think reality TV dating shows in

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the past, it's always been like, all we need good looking people with

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good bodies and whatnot. And I
think the magic sauce here is just regular

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good looking people, right, and
then you have the time to get to

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know them so that they either grow
on you and you're like, oh,

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well, he's cute, or you're
like, oh my god, she's a

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horrible person. Oh my god,
she's all four like Irena by the way,

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Oh my god, oh my god, she had sex with every other

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contestant. What a horre. Yeah. I feel bad for your audience.

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If you're not into Love is Blind, I'd say give it a shot.

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If you haven't, or if you're
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it is. It's fascinating television,
Just that concept of yeah, talking to

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someone for a week behind the wall, then meeting them and then yeah,

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pretending you find them attractive or yeah, son, I mean without being too

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spoilersh but I guess we have to
assume people have seen it by now.

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Yeah, can we just talk about
like what we think because Lynette, before

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you came in here, Patrick and
I really want your thoughts. Lynette and

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I were discussing whether we think so
when these couples meet, So what happens

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is for anybody, well happens happens
happens when they're in they're in these pods

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and they can talk to each other
behind a screen and they don't see each

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other, but they're talking, and
so they fall in love, which we've

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discussed can happen? I felt I
fell for my husband without ever had seen

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him or even heard his voice on
the phone. Okay, yeah, I

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just met him online on AOL instants
up you've got mail? Yeah, so

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it was I believe it was.
So. Anyway, Um, they always

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have these couples when they meet in
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and then they come out and they
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Every single time they look at each
other like, oh my you are I

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am super excited and almost always not
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out later that they really did find
the person attractive at first sight, right,

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and listen. I feel for these
people because it is very shocking having

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been through it, having seen somebody
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them and really liking them and thinking, building up this fantasy of what our

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lives were going to be like and
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like. This is really happening for
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and then they're seeing the person.
It is a shock. Yeah. So

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there's some acting that it goes into, like being like great, right,

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and then later you find out like
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Yeah, you definitely hide. You
have a poker face because you don't want

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to look like a dickhead coming out
of the gate. Famously Shake in season

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to the worst season by the Want
a sophomore Slump Shaking, that beautiful Indian

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girl embraced her deep deep deep,
grabbed a huge ass piece of her ass

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and said I just love your ass
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later it was like the opposite into
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thank god they did a real good
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that season that got in there that
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that's why season three was so much
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then this year it is so great. Yeah, right, did you know

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that? All? Right? So
when they chose Seattle as their casting eric

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because you know, they all got
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enough people applying that they could actually
put on the show. You know,

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they can tell when some girl has, you know, a two hundred thousand

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Instagram followers and they're all pictures of
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or their bodies, like you're already
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in Oregon just to be able to
get it was wondering, Yeah, because

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Kwami is in Portland. He's in
Portland, so and I didn't know this

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little fun detail. They technically only
cast thirty people, fifteen guys, fifteen

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girls. So all the little pod
roommates that you see running around there,

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it looks like they got a hundred
there, it's really just fifteen and fifteen.

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Interesting and so you got, what's
what's the percentage on that? I

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mean, I guess you got a
one in four shot of proposing to somebody,

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right, Yeah, But it's interesting
because some of the I noticed that

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some of the other people that don't
end up hooking up. We're like,

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well, I some of the people
they don't feature not attractive. Dylan and

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Patrick call them what we call them
barbecue people or seat fillers. So yeah,

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they will show up on episode eight
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some of the other members that actually
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rooms engaged, and then we see
them for like five minutes in the never

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to be seen again, Yes,
right, like the one like the one

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guy that they showed a couple of
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Asian girls, what are you Japanese? What do you what do you Korean?

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What are you know? What do
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And see the one with the weird
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the good Josh who came for jack
for Jackie. Yes, you know

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who Stephanie's referring to is just literally
that guy was cast as being the racist

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dumbass right because he gets and he
has no game. He's completely inappropriate and

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all we have him. Therefore,
is for the girls to return to the

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woman's quarters and talk about what a
douchebag is. Right, yeah, but

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what if somebody like fell for that
guy? Okay, I'm all right,

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so so glad, Yes this again. I apologize to your audience if you're

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not gonna love his blood And it's
fun to talk about. What front it

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is? Irena who Even if you're
not watching the show, you have,

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if you're on Facebook groups, you
have to be aware of this girl.

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She is Satan's great granddaughter. She
who does she think she is? Yeah,

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we have a theory on our podcast
bad TV that she was considered cast

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as a barbecue person or a seat
filler. She was never meant to make

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it to the big time, right, but she was so cunning and some

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of the casts were so dumb,
the male cast members, that they fell

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prey to her, And somehow she
made it to the big time and right

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right was there poor Zach. I
can't imagine why any guy would have picked

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her. She was superficial. She
was shout okay one the guy, Zach

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has a birthday. It's his birthday. All you do all day is talked

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to a stranger behind the wall.
To get to know them. This girl

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knew it was his birthday. She's
going to talk to him the next day.

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She completely forgot it was his birthday, right right. But the other

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girl who also liked him, did
remember it was his birthday. No,

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she knew. Irina knew it was
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day, right right. She was
reminded like, hey, what that Sime

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was pretty good with use, wasn't
one of those four there for our boyfriend?

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You dummy, it is not birthday. I'm making him asked to borrow

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a candle She did so dumb.
Yeah, so, but this is who

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he picked. And then she brabbed
to him. She was like, yeah,

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I found out it was your birthday
because Bliss was making some fucking cookies

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whatever. Yeah, right, Like
sorry, I didn't right, And he's

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like, oh, that's okay,
and then proposes to her. Yeah,

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by the way, So there is
one person we think snuck in because this

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was just breaking yesterday, like this
is a new story. One of the

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cast members. We have photos of
him trying to be on the television show

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Married at First Sight, another show
that I loved. I love that show.

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Yeah, Oh it was Cormet.
Yep, yeah, oh really I

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read that. Yeah, I think
I read that on Reddit. Yeah,

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he wanted to be on. He
was he was, he was on.

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He was trying to be unmarried at
first, say oh, I don't begrudge

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him. Though they are both the
same, it's kind of almost the same

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show. It's like if you thought
it was married to be fair but at

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thirty three. I guess if you're
considering that as like, uh, because

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I always looked at the way that
Bachelor used to be is you're working in

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the office with a you know,
a bunch of your friends, and they

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go to the website and then before
you know it, you sign each other

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up for it, and it's just
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there's people actively going, hey,
you know, I got a nice abs

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argue that Quam could fall under the
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Can you imagine, like eighteen ninety
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wooden beds entire life. They finally
some guy walks indoors like we have cotton

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and you can sleep on it.
And then like a guy from the future

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shows somebody's like, in the future, you're going to sleep on sheets made

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of wood. That's a good point. It's a good point. They're comfortable.

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Yeah, yeah, that comed all
right. So I don't want to

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overwhelm people with the with them.
But youth love is blind talk. But

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do you okay? So I don't. I don't like Mica. I don't

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either, and I can't stand her
friend. Oh my god, I want

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to I just don't like this for
you, Mica, this guy, I

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just say no, no to this
guy. Just this journey is not okay

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for scientist. You know, he's
still he's a piece of shit. Like

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how like we were saying, I
don't she gonna get any better? Like

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what what is she looking for?
You know? I mean this this chick

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was not First of all, I
don't I was saying this to Lynette.

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I don't think Mica likes Kwame or
Paul. I think she's just there for

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She's one of those there for the
followers kind of girls. She doesn't I

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know she doesn't like Kwame because she's
playing them both. Because okay, so

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for anybody that's if you've seen the
show, So Quame does not pick me,

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likes Micah tries to pick Micah.
Mica is like, UM, I

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don't know, Like, I just
like don't want to leave any stones unturned.

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And um, I have a lot
of like botox in my lips,

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so it makes it a little bit
hard to move it. But um and

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fillers, but um, I just
want to make sure that I have explored

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all of my options before I commit
to you. Very next day or hour,

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she's in a pod with another guy
and she's like, yeah, I

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think I want to let's be together. Ye. Well, and then the

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sad part is Kwame. I mean
he picks Chelsea. I mean for the

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rest of her life, she's your
back up. Yeah, when she sees

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the show, she's just gonna be
like wait what. Yeah, she's gonna

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get her heart broken and you could
see it already. I feel bad for

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Chelsea. I'm one note on Shelby. She's a self described relationship destroy her

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like that was in quotes like really, yeah, you're supposed to be like

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a self described like bird enthusiast or
something something so horrible about you, like,

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don't be proud of that. That's
a bad thing. Yeah, but

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oh my god, so so so
much fun. So we should definitely do

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a podcast, like maybe the last
episode all all three of us are four

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of us. That'd be fun.
Yeah. Yeah, So Patrick, what's

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happening with life as a dad?
You got a pregnant wife. She's getting

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very pregnant, very pregnant. She's
like almost halfway yep, almost halfway.

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How's she feeling? She doesn't like
being pregnant? She really doesn't like it.

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I'm like, just enjoy this,
like, um, you know,

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I gotta be sense if one thing
I can't say is like, hey,

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I'm trying to lose weight because my
face, you know, we film a

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lot of the podcast, and I'm
like, my face looks really read and

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fat, you know, I'm a
bloated irishman. And so she's like,

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I don't want to hear it.
I don't want to hear it. Don't

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talk about losing weight in front of
me like it gets it's your trigger for

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her. Um, but yeah,
I have to say this. I was

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gonna bring it up to one of
you and ask you how he felt about

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this, not to be dark or
morbid. I have had all right.

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So I've had anxiety issues, you
know. I heard John talk about it

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too, you know, talking about
your struggles. And it mainly started after

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college. I took Zoloft. Felt
better than I said. I don't need

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this anymore. Then in my late
twenties, I had a few friends passed

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one in nine to eleven and another
he was just running in Babboa Park and

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died of a large heart. I
fell into a depression. I got back

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on Zoloft, on it for six
years and then off by two thousand and

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seven. I've been totally fine,
no anxiety until the last three months.

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I've gotten hit with it quite a
bit where I wake up in the morning,

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wouldn't say it's a panic attack.
So I did some research on it

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and what it is. I'm having
this thing, and I guess it's pretty

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common. You guys, tell me
if you feel it where you feel that

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you might die, you know,
and leave your kids. So you start

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having this, I forget there's a
word for. I should have looked it

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up before. But you get really
stretched out and anxious about getting older,

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and then you know, leaving loved
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and I just stress, especially with
a I'm an old dad, I should

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tell the audience. I'm forty eight
years old. I have a baby coming

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in August. You know, um
all a lot of my friends and peers

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they're grandparents at this point. So
I've been um, yeah, I think

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I might have to get back on
some medication because I'm really stressing the hell

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out about that. But that's normal, though, Pat, Like, first

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of all, you have a toddler
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baby on the way, you know, and you're the dad, you're the

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you know, and you're providing and
you're out there working and you know,

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it's every parent I think feels that. I know what you feel like.

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I think about that too, like, oh my god, what happens when

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we're gone and it's just sunny in
Italian? Like, you know, are

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they going to be okay? And
like, you know, you think about

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that stuff. Yeah, it stresses
me, it does. It gets stressed

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out. Do you exercise, well, I think working with Kalin all day

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long, there's a form of that. Our job requires a lot of physical

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and being outside, so a lot
of things you recommend for kind of your

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mental health, I think Kaylin and
I do. Yeah, we have that,

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but well that's a lot of when
I started working with you and your

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job, which at first you were
just like, hey, come come work

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with me. I'll pay you for
a day. And I was just working

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in an office for so long,
and then I was like, oh,

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doing this like physical job out in
the sun. I would finish the day

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tired, but like feeling happy,
like right, like I just exercise or

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something. And I was like,
oh, I like I like this feeling,

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which is why I wanted to keep
doing it. Working outside is definitely

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helpful, except when it's pouring rain
on you for two months straight like that.

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K. Yeah, that was our
past two weeks doing it. And

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I have to say this and Stephanie, I definitely want to get your thoughts

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on this if you're willing to share. But with Kaylin, I have to

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tell you this guy, Kaylin,
I've been friends with you for eight years

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and I've known you a very long
time into you as you know, hard

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worker for Corolla. I would drop
Kaylin off in forty five degree raining weather

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with his rain boots on and just
I'll pick you up in two hours and

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it's literally just raining on him.
Yeah, and I pick him up and

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he doesn't have a complaint. That's
awesome. And he always like that.

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Yeah, I'm like, I told
you, didn't you get in the car

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and I say, you're a tough
bastard. Yeah, that's good. That's

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a good quality. It's I guess
it's like what um like what I was

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just saying. There's something about like
working really hard that it's like exercising.

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It's kind of like when I get
dropped off at U Pond or I start

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my day. It's like, oh, I really don't want to do this,

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but I know I'm gonna feel better
when it's done. And like after

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a job is done and you've just
done it, it just makes you feel

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better. I know I'm gonna feel
that way, and uh yeah, I

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want to make sure you do a
good job too, you know what.

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Yeah, But it's it's exercise is
so like and I shouldn't be talking because

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I haven't been exercising and I need
it. But once in a while,

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ago on the hike Freeman, or
I'll go around my neighborhood. I haven't

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gone to the gym, but it
feels so much bad. You feel like

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that anxiety, that anxiousness, I
get it out, you know, it's

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it feels good. You know,
you don't think about it. But exercise

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is so I don't know, and
drinking maybe would help. Do Have you

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had those feelings? Of course I
have, Yeah, But I also think

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for you, I have a feeling
that this pregnancy is a big trigger and

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not just about having another kid,
but your wife also went through a miscarriage

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that was pretty traumatic and it was
really hard on her and on you,

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And I think that when you are
having a pregnancy, there's a probably a

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part of you that stays that has
a background worry the whole time of like

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what if this doesn't work out or
what if something happens. I don't know

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how I'm going to deal with that
again, right, And so you just

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stay. It's kind of like a
hyper vigilance probably where you're just like And

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then also I think for men,
having a pregnant wife is an extremely vulnerable

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time because you feel like when a
woman's pregnant, even if they're working.

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I don't know if she's working,
but even when they're working, there's a

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time it's coming up where they won't
be working and you don't know what's going

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to happen, so like it's a
lot of extra pressure on I think the

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man to like what is what's your
plan? What's your income looking like?

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And if you're having any kind of
like financial insecurity, it feels even louder

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and bigger, and like, I
think it just takes on this thing that

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can make you feel anxious all the
time. Yeah. I hadn't thought about

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that. Yeah, yeah, it's
it's normal, a lot of pressure.

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Yeah, yeah, man, And
I mean Caitlin has two kids. Yeah,

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I don't say I get those thoughts
all the time. I'm not even

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having you know, like she just
said, you have that kind of that

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pregnancy that we're in the future.
I just think to myself all the time,

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Oh, what happens if like I
don't come home today and that was

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the last time that I saw my
kids, And I get like, really

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anxiously, why why am I think? Why is that thought popping into my

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head? It's making me sad?
But it does all the time. I'm

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constantly thinking like, oh, that
could happen, that could happen. I

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could have a heart attack. Yeah. I just was like, oh,

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this is why am I thinking this, I'd say, overall, I feel

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like I'm so happy in my life
right now with my family and I plays

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and that is the only Yeah.
Yeah, both of you guys are you

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know, it's nice to have two
dads in the studio. It's kind of

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nice. Well, Caitlin and I
talk all day long as we work,

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and you know, we go back
and forth with ideas with the kids and

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stuff, and it's nice to have
that because I um got so the doctor

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that gave birth to Ellie, he
passed doctor Goldberg. It's weird in out

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Los Angeles when you're watching the news
and they say, oh, a bicyclist

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and the Santa Monica Mountains was a
bicycle and had a heart attack and had

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to be airlifted out, and you're
like, oh, I feel bad for

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that guy. And then you like
get a tax She's like, hey'd you

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hear your doctor died? Oh?
That was him? Oh my god.

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So but one of the things the
last piece of advice he told my wife

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and I when we were leaving the
hospital, he said, well, your

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life's going to be different. You're
probably gonna be hanging out with your single

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friends less and you're gonna have a
lot more married friends with children, and

407
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:06,839
it's gonna be pretty cool. That
was it. Um, that was the

408
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,440
one constant thing that every single person
told me, every parent told me before

409
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,119
I had kids. Was your life's
gonna change? Yeah, that was the

410
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,240
one thing everybody said. Yeah,
yeah, Well I don't. I think

411
00:27:18,279 --> 00:27:22,359
some people think that their life isn't
gonna change. I think the oh,

412
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,480
I'm just gonna have a kid,
but it'll be it'll be. Yeah,

413
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,799
I know it won't be. Well, I lived my life so selfishly for

414
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,839
the better part of forty years.
For me, this is actually a real

415
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,200
shock to you know. I remember
the first uh, like the first week

416
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:40,240
after Ellie was born. I was
like, hey, honey, um,

417
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,880
Greg wants enough and go get beers
at Laurel Tavern. No, you can't

418
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,839
go out. You're dummy, right
right, Yeah, now, I know,

419
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:53,640
but it's exciting, but it is, you know, it is.

420
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:57,319
It can be stressful, and it's
it's interesting to hear the dad's side of

421
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:03,559
the stress. All right, So
what you was your favorite little time period

422
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:06,720
of age? Like, I'm starting
to hear that it's between five and seven.

423
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,440
Oh my god, I was just
gonna say five is when I really

424
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,559
started liking Elbie. Yeah, I'm
not even kidding. I think it's like

425
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,839
sixteen months is when I was like, oh, I get it, Like

426
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,640
I don't think I was. I
mean I was. I don't think I

427
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:29,519
was super bonded. I was.
I had all the primal like, oh

428
00:28:29,519 --> 00:28:30,519
my god, I love my baby. I want to take care of her.

429
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,640
I will guard her with my life. I will stay up all night

430
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,240
obsessing about what if something happens to
her. But I don't know if I

431
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,640
liked it, like if I felt
like And I remember at around sixteen months,

432
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,799
when she was walking and like starting
to talk, I was like,

433
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,440
oh my god, I want to
eat her face. I want to just

434
00:28:48,599 --> 00:28:53,240
grab I want to just inhale her. She's so fucking cute and so funny

435
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:56,839
and like already funny, like you
know. And that's when I was like,

436
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,480
Okay, I kind of like this. But at five is when I

437
00:29:00,519 --> 00:29:03,640
was like, okay, now we're
talking. When they know, when they

438
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,440
know that if they're gonna go into
the street, they're gonna get hit by

439
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,039
a car, it's that's that when
they start becoming more like and they get

440
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:15,759
easier too, you know, And
that's when you can start negotiating with them

441
00:29:15,799 --> 00:29:18,359
and joking with them, and you
know, like, yeah, five I

442
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,640
have they're like a whole person because
they're starting kindergarten and you're like Elbie had

443
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:27,079
all kinds of like very interesting thoughts
about things at five. Also, I

444
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,640
just remember it was the moment that
I was like, oh, Aaron's are

445
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,079
more fun with her now than without
her before. It was it was this

446
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:38,359
threshold where I was like I will
do anything to have somebody else watch her

447
00:29:38,359 --> 00:29:42,359
while I just run to the grocery
store because it's it was up until five,

448
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:47,759
it was more work to have her
with the sack and the yeah,

449
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,400
just like you don't know when they're
gonna have like a little tantrum and whether

450
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,240
they're gonna be whining at you or
whether they need a nap. And then

451
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,279
at five, magically it was like
oh she's cool. Yeah, like oh

452
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,480
do come And she was like fun, Patrick, do you do things like

453
00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:04,799
that on the weekend with Ellie?
You taker? I tried to take Blake

454
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:07,880
out to do errands with me the
other day, thinking like, oh I

455
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,599
was in school, I gotta kill
like for come on, Blake, you

456
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,000
can just come with me to go
to the car shop, at the home

457
00:30:15,039 --> 00:30:18,000
depot, and about halfway through home
depot, she was I go, Okay,

458
00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:22,839
maybe this isn't working. I always
hated home deep when I was k

459
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:26,960
Now I'm there constantly. Yeah.
I want both of you to know as

460
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,519
parenting podcasters, world class podcasters,
you have definitely helped me and set me

461
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:36,160
up because I do there's moments where
your wisdom from back in the day we're

462
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,799
talking six years ago, it will
hit me in the head. One was

463
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,640
Lynette had said you guys were talking, you said the weekends are the work,

464
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:48,559
not the weekdays, and that could
not be true. Thank god you

465
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,319
said that, because when we got
hit with no nannies or no family helping,

466
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,960
and that Saturday morning at seven thirty
starts the day and you're like,

467
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:02,440
I gotta entertain this little fucker.
Two is such an awkward age or like,

468
00:31:02,599 --> 00:31:04,599
because you're like, there's not a
lot of stuff that they like to

469
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,759
do and they have a super short
attention st So even if you're like you

470
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,640
have to have a whole day of
like, all right, we're gonna go

471
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,759
to the ninety nine cents store.
I'm gonna let you lose the ninety nine

472
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:18,240
cent stor is so great. Yeah, go loose in the twist section.

473
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,200
Yeah, and if you travel with
them, go to the ninety nine cent

474
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,119
store buy a bunch of shit and
then just give it to them like every

475
00:31:25,119 --> 00:31:26,960
hour as a new gift, Like
here's a straw. Yeah, yes,

476
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,079
and they're like and they're like wow
for two seconds. Right, So,

477
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,119
I think what you guys are breaking
down is how the f do I fill

478
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,720
a day with these things that just
keep them busy so I can get make

479
00:31:37,759 --> 00:31:40,720
it to noon, then make it
to the nap. They wake up from

480
00:31:40,759 --> 00:31:41,599
the nap, Let's get them some
lunch, all right? How do I

481
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:48,519
kill from five to seven so I
can get a glass of goddamn? Yeah?

482
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,559
It's uh, that's been one of
the challenges, especially having been able

483
00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,799
to live life on my terms for
so long. You get into the habits

484
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,559
of being so selfish that you do
need to get into that mode of selflessness

485
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,039
and I just go, look,
I'm going to be really bored for three

486
00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,440
hours, and oh, here's something
that you said. Hey, maybe I

487
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,960
don't want to go out in the
backyard and throw the ball back and forth

488
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,160
for an hour. I don't want
to do this. That's something I remember

489
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,200
you saying and yeah, all those
things are true, and then I also

490
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960
remember you guys yes talking. Once
you get past that, like four or

491
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,720
five, it starts to get kind
of kind you get out of the mail

492
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,079
room, and then they start getting
invited. Your kids starts getting invited to

493
00:32:24,119 --> 00:32:28,359
do shit, like on the weekends. You're gonna because once they're in school,

494
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,599
elementary school, almost every weekend or
every few weekends, you're going to

495
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,839
get invited to your birthday party.
And then you have something built in to

496
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,480
do. So one of you guys
can take the kid there and there's two

497
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,839
hours right there at Chucky Cheese or
at whatever, at the indoor playground,

498
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,599
whatever it is. It's something for
them to do. It's cake, they're

499
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:52,039
running around, somebody else is watching
them. You can chat with other parents.

500
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Have you have you met like any
other parents? Like are you it's

501
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,680
hanging out yet? One set of
parents and they were just here on Saturday.

502
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,440
It was such a fun day.
We went to the to the zoo

503
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,279
with the kids and then came back
here and had lunch and it killed the

504
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,720
whole Saturday. And I'm like,
this is what life on the weekends can

505
00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:10,200
be like. Okay, So My
wife and I have had a hard time

506
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,799
bonding with fellow parents, and I
think a lot of that has to do

507
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,279
with coming out of you know,
the pandemic and stuff, and I think

508
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:22,119
people are still just a theory kind
of relaxing and settling into, you know,

509
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:24,920
hanging out with strange people they don't
know or la And you, guys,

510
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,119
tell me, if this is your
experience, it seems like, I

511
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,240
don't know, people wait so long
to have kids that by the time they're

512
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,680
in their mid thirties they're not interested
in new friends. They already have their

513
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,359
proper friends. So you go to
the birthday party at Chuck E Cheese and

514
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:44,720
there's pleasantries and there's small talk,
but there's no Hey, let's exchange numbers

515
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,160
and I we're having a pool party
on Saturday. We have not experienced that

516
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:51,720
yet, right, And my wife
thinks it's just that people don't like her.

517
00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:59,279
She already got in a fight with
Stephanie at school. So my wife

518
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,559
I was there this, Yeah,
he was there when Patrick started going email

519
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,559
there arguing arguments with other parents are
legend, stephan So my wife takes the

520
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:17,719
job of her my daughter's class,
the Grasshoppers, they're doing a fundraiser for

521
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,800
for raise money for the tricathon or
something. I don't know. So I

522
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,760
was doing tomorrow, That's what I'm
going. Yeah, it's like a like

523
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,079
a race, you know, they
don't know what they're doing. I'm doing

524
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,480
that tomorrow. So my wife's in
charge of raising the money for the grasshoppers.

525
00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:36,119
Are competitors are the fireflies, the
owls and whatever, the fox the

526
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:39,519
foxes, lady bugs. So yeah, ladybugs. So we have twelve kids

527
00:34:39,519 --> 00:34:43,320
in the class. My wife is
very competitive, and now I'm like,

528
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,519
oh my god, we are those
parents. You become those people that used

529
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:51,400
to mock and laugh like why are
you like in the HBO series Big Little

530
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,199
Lies, where you're so obsessed on
the politics of you know, kindergarten class.

531
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,440
And so my wife sends out an
email, Hey, guys, we're

532
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:05,199
behind ladybugs and the foxes. We
need We're doing okay, but we could

533
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,639
do better. A guy fire A
father fires off an email. I just

534
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,559
sent five hundred dollars. That's not
good enough. Exclamation point explanation for five

535
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,159
hundred dollars is a lot of money. Hey, we matched it. It's

536
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,400
a lot of money. We have
to beat the Ladybugs and the Foxes.

537
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,519
So, oh my god, they
don't play. I donated like six hundred

538
00:35:22,559 --> 00:35:28,000
dollars worth of wine for that fundraiser
thing. So and it's all one upmanship.

539
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,119
You know, I'm getting I'm getting
totally getting hit. This has got

540
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,280
to be a fancy preschool. I'm
not at that fancy. It's first Baptist

541
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,719
over on col II hundred dollars.
Either way, I can run over there

542
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,880
if there's ever an emergency when I'm
at the conduct can Yah, yeah,

543
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,079
that's right, all right, might
call you on that time. You're gonna

544
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:49,559
regret that. So she uh so, anyway, she's deeply offended by this,

545
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000
and then she fires back, well
you know, I didn't mean it

546
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:53,760
that way, and gets no response
from this guy. So we're at the

547
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,800
tricathon and we're all standing next to
each other. She's just being room,

548
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,599
she's just being in charge. She's
just being like, hey, he gotta

549
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,119
like get all right, So why
is this guy taking it so personally?

550
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,199
He welcome to Los Angeles and people
being very sensitive. Oh yeah, brib

551
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Yeah it's or Jason John So he's
an actor, by the way, And

552
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,599
by the way, this guy is
on a show. He's in that new

553
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:25,800
show The Swamp or Swan or something
like that. Um, so we're at

554
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,920
the tricathon and I go get a
slice of pizza or something like that,

555
00:36:30,159 --> 00:36:34,079
and she's all huffy puffy. She
just said how you doing to him and

556
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:37,880
his wife, and the wife said
high back, and he ignored her.

557
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:40,559
And now I'm like, I guess
I gotta beat the shit out right,

558
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,480
right, I mean, it's the
only choice, right. So anyway,

559
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,079
but all jokes side, I was
like, I see, I do.

560
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:52,920
I think he's being a little whiny
by giving my wife the cold shoulder,

561
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,639
if in fact that's not something that
she's seeing, that's not happening. But

562
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,320
I was like, well, if
the guy did donate that and it was

563
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,559
his family, that is a lot
of money, and for you to send

564
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:05,360
an email out, come on,
we can do better. I wouldn't have

565
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,400
sent the email back to my wife
that way, but I can see where

566
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,880
that might have been a little insulting. Perhaps. I try and see both.

567
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:13,960
Patrick, You're very diplomatic. I
try and be. My friends just

568
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,639
called me a great communicator. Oh
yeah, that's good. That's a good

569
00:37:17,639 --> 00:37:22,199
title for you. But yeah,
well, welcome to the politics of school.

570
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,679
Oh, I feel like if I
was that guy and I gave five

571
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,679
hundred dollars, maybe I would want
the person to be like, oh my

572
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,840
gosh, that's huge, thank you
so much. So maybe if he had

573
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,199
just done it and he was feeling
like what the fuck? Like now I'm

574
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,639
hearing like, hey, that's not
enough money. But he's all taking it

575
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,639
personally because he's an actor, right, that's right. Yes, that he

576
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:49,519
thinks it's all about him. Narcissists
and can't can't handle a rejection, you

577
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:52,280
know, and feels like why didn't
somebody? Why didn't Why wasn't there a

578
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,599
parade in my honor? Right?
The five hundred came after the trigathon.

579
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:59,039
But did he send it to everybody
or just to her? To everybody?

580
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,440
Oh my god? Oh, by
the way, these for these parents.

581
00:38:01,559 --> 00:38:06,559
So it goes through this filter,
this email because all the other parents don't

582
00:38:06,559 --> 00:38:09,199
want their emails because there are some
famous people in there. But yeah,

583
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:14,239
so there's no just like necessarily a
group text. But my wife gets it

584
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,320
back where he sends a response.
Yeah, so so you want to know

585
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,519
who my wife' knew was client is? Oh, you guys are fans baseball

586
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:24,719
Justin Turner, the big Dodger.
Oh he's hot. He's very hot.

587
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,360
I'm like, wait, wait,
why are you over there all day Saturday?

588
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,880
Do you have kids? She's like, no, Okay, he's single.

589
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:36,159
Now he's married. He loves his
wife. I think they're high school

590
00:38:36,159 --> 00:38:38,280
sweethearts. That's cute. Do you
remember, do you guys remember? And

591
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,360
Patrick you were there, and Kaylin
you were there when we did our San

592
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,159
Francisco show on our live show,
do you remember I read an email exchange?

593
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,280
Oh he's not mine. Oh yes, it was my friend who I

594
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,679
won't I will I cannot say her
name, but my friend who's many years

595
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:58,119
ago because her kids are the same
age as my kids. So this is

596
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:00,679
when her kid was in preschool,
was going to a little bit of a

597
00:39:00,679 --> 00:39:06,800
fancy schmancy preschool. And one of
the moms got mad at one of the

598
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,880
other moms because do you remember this
situation that I read? They I read

599
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,639
the email exchange and some of them
were famous in there. But because do

600
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:20,239
you remember this, Kaylin, you
played the music underneath it and made it

601
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,719
funnier. I remember you reading the
email, but I don't remember. I

602
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,159
don't remember what it was. So
it was basically this. It was basically

603
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,320
the mom. It was this two
moms. They had their daughter and they

604
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,000
were going to be moving, and
so they were going to be having a

605
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:39,239
birthday party and they were It was
all very la speak. It was like,

606
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:45,639
you know, let's um Melli.
Um is very like sad about moving,

607
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:50,079
and we want to give her some
control over her life. So she's

608
00:39:50,119 --> 00:39:53,039
having a birthday party and we're letting
her make the guest list. So if

609
00:39:53,039 --> 00:40:00,119
you're receiving this email, you did
not get invited to the party, and

610
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,360
please don't take it personally, because
we just couldn't invite everybody. Yeah.

611
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,159
So then so then somebody who got
that was like what the fuck? What

612
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,639
do you? What's wrong with you? Like and then and then so then

613
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,400
apparently she got a whole slew of
responses. So then she wrote back to

614
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:21,559
everybody and was like, so,
um, quite a few of you emailed

615
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:24,000
us and told us that you were
very upset about this, about finding out

616
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:30,519
that your child was excluded from this
party. But so we tried to talk

617
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:35,559
to our daughter. We tried to
talk to I didn't mean to call her

618
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,760
a similar name to Ellie I was
calling. I was going from Melissa,

619
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,199
and I was like, that name
is really old school. We tried to

620
00:40:42,199 --> 00:40:44,920
talk to Melissa and we explained to
her that some of the kids were really

621
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,679
upset and some of the parents were
really upset, and she didn't really go

622
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,280
for it, sticking with our original
plan. Sorry not sorry, that's hilarious.

623
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,599
I might go one of the moms
who was kind of famous, and

624
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:01,760
I don't I honestly don't remember who
it was. She was. She had

625
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,199
been married to somebody really famous.
You might remember because I said it at

626
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,360
the show and then that person wrote
back again and like they had this whole

627
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:15,039
battle and then and then they moved
Wow, oh my god. Well,

628
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:17,800
so tell us what's up for what's
up? What's going on with you?

629
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,320
Wait, we have to take a
quick break first. Let's take a quick

630
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,079
break. So, Patrick, So, what's what's going on with you?

631
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,440
And Dylan? Tell us about your
podcast. Well, we're gonna do some

632
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,360
crossovers with you guys, but uh
Anne Rose Pricks, but bad TV.

633
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:34,880
If you want to support us,
if I didn't annoy the living hell out

634
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,840
of you because I talked too much, everybody loves you, Patrick. Oh

635
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,199
thanks, but we'll see in that
Facebook group of yours. Uh, the

636
00:41:42,559 --> 00:41:47,760
we recap Love is Blind, Life
after lock Up, Seeking Brother Husband That

637
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,239
is a shit show. Vander Pump
Rules, and God, I can't think

638
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,840
of what else right now. Thank
you're doing too much? Yeah? Yeah,

639
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,880
yeah, you guys watch The Ultimate
Girls Trip. No, but I'm

640
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,119
sure we would if we had one
more hour to watch TV in a week.

641
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:09,159
Yeah, there's a lot of TV
going on. What what shows are

642
00:42:09,199 --> 00:42:14,400
you a recapping? We're just doing
vanderput We wanted to do a second show

643
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:17,280
for our for rose Pricks because it's
because we found that just doing Bachelor,

644
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:22,039
we felt like we were we liked
podcasting together, and we felt like,

645
00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:24,079
well, some people don't watch The
Bachelor, so what else can we do?

646
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:30,880
So when all the vander Pump Tom
drum stand of all uh dropped,

647
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,039
we decided to start covering Vanderpump.
So that's our Thursday show and it's fun

648
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,280
and it's a fun show. I
had loved it the first few years,

649
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Lena, I think you loved it
too, and then right around like they

650
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,639
tried to like bring in like new, younger people, and I think that

651
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:47,719
didn't work for me, or it
didn't work for a lot of people.

652
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,559
I think that's when I stopped watching
it too, right, And then it

653
00:42:51,599 --> 00:42:58,960
also got weird that Jack's and um
Brittany their their waiters head sir, and

654
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,079
they live in a two point five
million dollar house, and uh, you

655
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:06,519
know, it was all weird,
and that's when I think a lot of

656
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:09,519
people jumped. But boy, Bravo
has a lot of thanking to do for

657
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,280
Sandoval. And her name is Rachel. We dead named her. That's her

658
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,199
real name, Rachel. Um.
Yeah, we're having a fun time recappy.

659
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,880
We do it with Dylan's sister Ruby. And then we had my wife

660
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,519
on the last episode to fill in, Oh, did you watch the episode

661
00:43:22,519 --> 00:43:25,800
with the tarot cards? Yes,
I just watched that one. Yes,

662
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,440
that was last week. So that
James DJ James Kennedy and okay, they

663
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,840
gotta So I'm watching it with my
wife and I'm taking notes because you know,

664
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,239
I gotta talk about it. And
my wife jumps out of the bed

665
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:42,280
like like she was like a dead
person that just woke up out of a

666
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,440
casket, and like what the fuck. She's like, he's our neighbor.

667
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:52,239
So our neighbor, Marty has illegal
tiny houses. She bought a bunch of

668
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,760
like tool sheds for a home depot
and she put them in her backyard and

669
00:43:55,880 --> 00:44:00,599
the tarot card reader rents one.
So we see him every morning get into

670
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:06,400
his little Mini Cooper and drive off
and do tarot card. Oh my god,

671
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,679
wow, hilarious. I wonder how
much money makes doing that. He's

672
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:15,039
living in a tool shed in Marty's
backyard. Oh my god. We are

673
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:24,360
so you and I together our brain, my brain like yeah, the illegal

674
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:30,000
part goes right out the window and
I'm just like focused on I am so

675
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,760
nice, my nei neighbor, because
I do like Marty a lot that I

676
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,599
put up a gigantic thing to block
it so when the inspectors here when we

677
00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:42,280
were doing the renovation would not go
back there because they would have shut that

678
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,320
down. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Oh that's why you put up that

679
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,679
like tarp yep. Oh interesting,
Yeah, that was smart. Good for

680
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,599
you, really nice. I'm a
good neighbor. Yeah you are well.

681
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:55,840
The place looks great, Thank you. I love This is so much fun

682
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,400
and hopefully we can do more of
this and you guys come on our podcast

683
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,920
and talk reality a TV. This
is so, when's your pool going to

684
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,840
be done? Well? Yeah?
Working with Pat the last nine months,

685
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,239
almost a year. This guy that
he's got doing the pool is a piece

686
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,960
of work. A piece of work
I get. Basically, I made the

687
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,840
fatal mistake of giving him all the
money up front. And I know you

688
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,960
did not I did. I did. And I haven't seen him in two

689
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,400
months yet. Oh no, Pat
No, I believe it was supposed to

690
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,000
be done just before Halloween. That's
horrible. He is he avoiding you?

691
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,519
Yeah? He doesn't respond or anything. So the last text I sent to

692
00:45:31,599 --> 00:45:34,400
him was, look, if I
don't hear from you in five days,

693
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,639
we're gonna get lawyers involved. I
send him a screenshot of his not his

694
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,440
contractor's license, but the one that
he's using, and I said, I

695
00:45:39,519 --> 00:45:43,760
can file this. I can file
something I don't want to, but it'll

696
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,920
come back. And he never responded. Wow, oh my god. Because

697
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,679
my dream is let's do a podcast
and then go hit that JACUZI yeah,

698
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,920
no, that's gonna be fine.
I was thinking that like summertime, that's

699
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,719
did you pay him all the money? I've just had a curiosity, all

700
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,599
right, So and I should know
better, because you know, I'm basically

701
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:06,000
a contractor myself. The guy who
did the renovation for our home was so

702
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,079
nice, and I never hear these
stories of people saying their contractor was amazing.

703
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,280
He did the job for what he
said it was going to do.

704
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,119
He had his little payment system and
we paid him handshake and a hog.

705
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:19,880
I'd recommend him to anybody. And
so when the pool guy showed up,

706
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:22,639
he said it's forty three thousand dollars, and then he said he stopped by

707
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:25,800
three weeks in a row and said
he needed a check for ten ten ten,

708
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,840
and then he and then he dug
the hole and he said, well,

709
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,440
I can have this by done by
Halloween, but I just need the

710
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:36,360
rest of the money. I gave
him the money. Oh jeez, by

711
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,159
the way, sorry, I know
this is probably going long. This guy

712
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:45,039
was recommended by a client that Klin
works for. Well he's a very nice

713
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:49,039
guy. Yeah, I do.
Was turtle pond every other week and he

714
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,960
came highly recommended. Another reason why
I wasn't asking questions. I got this

715
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,800
guy who said, this guy's done
all these projects for me. So now

716
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,920
this pool guy put me in the
position of having to go to this guy

717
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:02,599
and the guy you recommend it has
not shown up in a month and half

718
00:47:02,639 --> 00:47:06,800
I hate to come back and ask
you this, but you recommended him,

719
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,679
and it was it's one of those
like be careful when you recommend people because

720
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,960
now it's your problem, right,
And so I put him in that position.

721
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,239
Now that's weird. So that's why
I don't want to see him.

722
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,639
Yeah, I don't blame you.
That's uncomfortable. But we're gonna get it

723
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,000
done so we can in the you
know, the kids can come over and

724
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:25,639
we'll do podcasting and make pizzas and
the Yeah, have fun. Well I'm

725
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:30,199
gonna have a great Summer'm really looking
for excited. Oh man, Yeah,

726
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:36,320
I'm so sorry. When we are
contractor, I did a lot of homework

727
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,159
on that. But I've been in
this situation. The first contractor we ever

728
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:43,559
had that we did some stuff to
our house. Yeah, it was like

729
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:46,360
we constantly had an issue with like
the painter just stopped showing up halfway through

730
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,840
the job, just never came back. And we were like, uh,

731
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,320
well, what's gonna just not gonna
be painted? And he was like,

732
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,239
wow, I don't know. I
was kind of waiting for him to come

733
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,239
back to the contractor because the contractor
wouldn't come every day. So like I

734
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,440
had to contact the contractor and go, yeah, so this painter just like

735
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,360
never came back and he was like, oh, that's weird. He's always

736
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,400
been pretty reliable. So we had
to hire another painter to come into There

737
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,920
were little things like that, but
I had a contractor. And then on

738
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,719
our new job, Yeah, they
never asked for the money upfront. We

739
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:22,480
paid everything like as it went,
and I waited until I think everything that

740
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:24,880
was done. Then I paid for
it right after it was done. The

741
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:30,639
text thing. We had inspectors the
whole time. Um, but when we

742
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:36,519
and then when we did our outside
painting of our house, that guy who

743
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:39,159
was who was good, but remember
letting these stories. I had some some

744
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,679
arguments with him. Yes, he
was a little bit like that, like

745
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,280
a little shade, a little shady
acting. And then when he would ask

746
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:51,000
me for money, I was like
no that. I was like, no,

747
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:52,360
I'm not going to pay you.
I'll pay you when you do the

748
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,480
next part of it. Then I
pay you. And he'd be like,

749
00:48:54,519 --> 00:48:58,960
oh okay, but I can't afford
to go get the paint. And I

750
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,559
was like, why don't you to
tell you? And then he's like okay,

751
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:04,599
it's okay, it's Okay, this
one. I want to explain to

752
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:08,320
them, Um, what restaurant do
you show up to and the restaurant makes

753
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:13,199
sure you pay them first and then
they'll bring out your taco I'm saying,

754
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:17,440
I'm sorry, that's what you're saying. Yeah, it's like I can't imagine.

755
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,880
Like Klin shows up to a job, sometimes we don't get paid for

756
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,519
like two months after we did the
work. Oh. I have a client

757
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:28,280
that still hasn't paid me after two
months. I have to message him every

758
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,119
week, O hey, uh you
still owe me that hundred dollars and each

759
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:35,159
time it's all caps. Oh my
god. Oh I'm so sorry. I'm

760
00:49:35,159 --> 00:49:37,760
gonna get the person on it right
away. I'm gonna have yeah, okay,

761
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,639
then pay me. I don't care. Just wow, so sorry over

762
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,599
emails and then it's like, Okay, I guess I'll just hit you up

763
00:49:46,599 --> 00:49:51,960
again next week. I know.
I think maybe it's because it's not a

764
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,880
lot of money. I mean,
this is different with the pool guy.

765
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,639
But I'm just saying some people are
just bad about paying their bills because they're

766
00:50:00,679 --> 00:50:01,639
just like, oh, well,
whatever, it's only one hundred bucks,

767
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:05,400
or it's only this, or it's
only that sure, but I mean,

768
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,880
Kaylin and I would never show up
and go, hey, we need seventy

769
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,719
five dollars before we do anything.
You know. It's that's trade of services.

770
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,000
You know. We're gonna start doing
that with our podcast though, Hey

771
00:50:14,639 --> 00:50:20,440
needs and then we'll release the episode. Yeah, yeah, that's what we

772
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,440
should do. Forget the arret comd
of business. I'm gonna say this,

773
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:31,000
you guys are my favorite podcast podcast
with oh Patri thank you, well,

774
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:37,960
you're our favorite. Yeah. Well
it's Joe KOI. But you know what's

775
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,480
that guy up to these days?
Is he working over at aunt JOKOI?

776
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,519
Yeah, well we're working on getting
him on the show. Yeah. I

777
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:49,519
mean I think you only sold out
the forum three nights. Yeah right,

778
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,519
I know. Yeah, but all
right, thank you so Patrick, book

779
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:59,239
and find you on Bad TV Podcast. Bad TV Podcast on Spotify, Facebook

780
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,239
group face we group. That's fun. A couple for crying out louders are

781
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:07,280
in there. Nice. Nice,
Maybe get more now so that'll be good,

782
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,840
all right, Chris Patty, Thanks
Kayl Thanks kay you're a parent.

783
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:19,559
Now, don't suck it up.
Letting go
