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Happy Valentine's Day. It's a couple
of days late, but it's okay.

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It's fine. We're on the internet. Time doesn't matter. Welcome to the

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Giant BombCast, Episode eight hundred and
twenty seven, BombCast Revengeance. That is

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that's right, Scout, let's go
damp stumble all right, Okay, Scott,

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it's okay, Sorry, we'll calm
down here. Well, can you

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Scout? Got mad that you blew
those petal leaves all over the place?

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Is that what that was? Exactly? I was trying to do a nice

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thing earlier in the week. I
made like a bunch of little paper confetti,

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and then she did not like me. She still did not like it.

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Can't trust it, can't trust it, can't trust it. Welcome to

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the Giant BombCast Revengeance eight hundred and
twenty seven, powered by Ensist. I'm

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your host, Jana Cholla, joining
me as always co Captain of the Ship

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and master of Romance, Jeff Grubb. Yeah, come in, lean An,

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let me give you a smooch.
That's what romance is all about.

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The smooching. That's what I'm in
it for. And I'm happy to report

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I've gotten smooches in my life.
Jan happy to be here. Happy to

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have you here, sir, And
I'm also happy to have the arbiter of

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smooches on this website. He's not
here all the time, but he's ready

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to authorize the smooch when he has
to, like Minatti, smoochie, smooch.

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I'm a smoochin all right, okay, and happy to have him.

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Hear his He's gracing us with his
presence here to announce the new type of

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Pokemon, which is actually the love
Pokemon. Jordan Midler, Hello, John,

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how are you finally made it off
the substitutus bench of Games Mass morning?

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And I'm on the real show.
I'm on the main event. I

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am thanka doing with this guy the
story thing up. I did notice that

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when I asked you here, you
immediately were like yes, And like when

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I ask you you on game last
morning, You're like, I'll get back

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to you in like seven days.
You always ask anything. You always ask

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me on my day off, and
I'm always doing something or other, but

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I come through for you. Whatever
you do, come through. Jordan,

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did you know that we kind of
look alike? No? I mean,

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according to Jeff jobs actual children.
I am a Mike Manorthy, so I've

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been more honored in my life to
be called such bald men are. Yeah,

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it's like it's like, you know, you get your regular dig lit

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and then an a Loland dig Lit. It's like, yeah, it looks

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the same, it's a little bit
different. Jordan's aloan dig Lit middler.

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That's why they call me. Oh
god, could someone please photoshop Mike Dan

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Reikert and Jordan Midler's gun tree or
whatever the hell that is throwing Chris uh

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As Well, yeah, there you
go, Jordan. I'm happy to have

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you here, sir. I realized
I don't know if you and I have

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had had like many extended conversations,
because sometimes when you're on game mess I

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will just talk to you while I'm
sitting here at my computer and be like,

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yeah, a good one, Jordan, Yeah nice. Or I'll pull

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up your news story and be like
that's a good story, Jordan. John.

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When I'm on games mest morning,
I'll wait for the forty five minute

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mark where you and Mike show up, and I'm like, right now I

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can talk to someone. Jeff can
continue talking to himself. That show is

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just him talking and me going,
yeah, you're right, Jeff, You're

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right. You're very smart, and
I like you get it. That's why

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you keep get invited back. But
when you guys show up as a party,

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Jordan, for the folks that may
not be familiar, tell the folks

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at who you are and where what
you do on the internet. I am

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Jordan Medler. I am a writer
over at VGC. You might know us

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from all of the news on every
website and the entire internet, and that's

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mostly my boss is doing Andy Robinson. But yeah, I'm over there causing

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trouble, making kids cry bro.
I'm I'm the one that will say something

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on Twitter and immediately get a message
on Slack being like that's not really VEGC

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brand. Can you stop making it? Man, I'm gonna drag you into

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more fights on Twitter. I'm up
for it. I'm well up for it.

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But you know we've got to do
it well. Anty's sleeping, you

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know, Joan. I have a
question when did you guys become all of

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the news Because I was like early
on, I'm like, oh, this

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site's actually useful for video game news, and I was like all aboard immediately

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as soon as I started saying it, and now it is like everyone's adopted

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that as well. It's like this
is we got one video game news website

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we don't need anymore. Yeah.
Andy Robinson's a bit of a machine.

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Like he did Ceveg, which was
an old It was a British magazine that

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became a website that the bastards that
Future Publishing shut down with very little fanfare.

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Andy then went dev side for a
while. He helped make Ukulele and

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worked at Bamco for a while,
and then he was like, fuck this

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noise. We need we need a
website that's like somewhere between urogamer and gi

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dot bez in terms of the tone, in terms of when where the news

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is coming from. And since then
he's just been fighting out scoops and then

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eventually he was like, we need
an idiot to review all of these games.

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And that's where anytime that grub is
out for the BombCast and I have

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to go assemble the news, I
pretty much just go to and then like

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for a spy, spicy life and
variety, I'll be like, all right,

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let's go everywhere else. Okay,
who are you blessing? I O

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Junior from kind of funny. This
is a call out post man. Sorry

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fights. Blessing is man man.
I love blessing to death. That Greg

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Mallard though, God sorry, I'm
sorry to catch up the blessing on that

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tech and eight ladder. I see
his name up ahead. I'm getting there.

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I'm coming for you, Blessing.
I don't care how good you're of

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that Victor. We should. We
should see you guys fight. We should

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during the review period. I'm blessing
kick the shout out at me taking so

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much that I electrially text him and
I was like, oh, yeah,

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I've got to go and do other
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I was just good. Good move
though. That was a good move.

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Yeah, I was blessing. Gonna
know, yeah, exactly, Jordan.

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I do have another question, why
did you delay the switch to because

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you don't deserve it. You've just
been complaining. You've been complaining. You

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say this new Mario and Donkey Kong
game is a lot of shite. That's

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why you don't get Oh that was
dead. Yeah, we'll get into it.

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But it seems like the Big End
was not super confident in its first

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party lineup for this year, which
probably means that that three D Mario wasn't

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ready, so when that's ready,
we'll get switch too. And these whispers

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have been kind of going about in
the in the professional circles for a few

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days. Jeff was was all,
this the first you've heard of it?

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Or you know, I started hearing
a little bit, but it was from

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people I hadn't heard from before,
so it was like, I'm like,

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I don't know. And it was
like with the direct happening, I was

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getting a lot of like extra stuff
that it's hard to sort, like sort

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through, So like I'll check on
that in a couple of days and see

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if that's still happening. Turns out, yeah, everyone's been hearing about it,

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so it's a bad scene. It
seemed like so inevitable at this point,

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like it seemed like the whole industry
had just decided that it was going

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to happen. We heard about a
reveal and things like that, but no,

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it seems Nintendo the Z when we
all wanted to zag and Mike,

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where'd you think that's that puts a
reveal that is an early twenty twenty five

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thing though, I mean that's the
thing because the rumor was next month and

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it's like, well that seems pretty
early now to do a reveal for this

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system. Yeah, ahole year ahead
of time. I mean what I think,

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what I really want to know now
and other people is so, what's

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gonna come out for the Switch this
year? Then? I know the Peach

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game? Yeah, Like seriously,
okay, look just tell me. Then

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it's Mtroy Prime for still a Switch
one game? Is that a holiday game

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for you? Look? They can
find things to still make a decent lineup

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this year. From kind of the
box of scraps. It's going to be

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remake heavy for sure, probably port
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kind that fire on them, remake
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think. I mean, you still
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you could port, so there's stuff
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seem like we're probably, in terms
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the weakest maybe week is a bad
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release of first party Nintendo games in
a while. I mean, I'll repeat

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the rumor I heard about Metro Prime
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night, Mike, and that's that
the people like some people involved say there

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were assets being made with a delivered
date of around May of twenty twenty four,

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which suggested me that the game was
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around June, so the June direct
Who knows if that changed that. This

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is something I've heard quite a while
ago, which but I think they probably

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do have Metro Prime four on which
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If the switch to is really first
quarter next year, that seems completely reasonable

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at this point. Yeah, they
put a Metroid Prime and it runs like

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absolute shat, and then when the
console comes out, it's like, oh,

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this is how it was supposed to
run all along. Like I think

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if you get a Metroid, you
get a Pokemon remake. Like it's not

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going to be a super strong holiday, But do any of the three have

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a super strong holiday? Like what
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I guess yes, Microsoft, My
they're gonna have Indiana Jones and some

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other saying so yeah, yeah,
Indiana Jones is like December, so that

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feels like it's primed for a delay. So I'm like trying not to get

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my hopes up for Indy, But
you're right, if that does come out.

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That does make it look like and
it's decent. That's a pretty good

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holiday. But uh yeah, it
just feels like a transition year. In

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the middle of a generation for two
of the consoles and at the end of

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another console. So it's fair that
they're in a transition period. But yeah,

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I mean, Nintendo's in a place
where they can afford to delay a

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console launch until they're ready. Right, the Switch is doing great, so

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why rush it? It's better.
It's better than them rushing it, right,

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because we don't need that. We
don't need the console to come out

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and be like, oh, where's
the software. It'd be better if they

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wait for the games. It is
going to be yeah, yeah, no,

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that's right. It's it's just going
to be a little bit weird,

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I think because the Switch is starting
to feel old, and it is is

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old. It just is, and
I think it's part of It's my fault.

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I was really rapping myself up,
like I am ready definitely were talking

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about it's like, oh, I'm
feeling nostalgic about the Switch. I was

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like, go and play some old
games because you know, of course the

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Switch two is coming, and there's
just a partments like oh, a whole

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other year probably still huh hm.
Man, I didn't want to believe it

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when I like, when this stuff
was coming to me, where I was

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like, man, even that first
story breaking, I'm like, oh,

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maybe I didn't read it yet and
then got done with our show earlier and

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it's like nope, yeah, everyone's
confirming this. I'm like, Okay,

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it's real. The son of a
business. Do y'all think, though,

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like the the four plus Microsoft games
that may be coming out eventually to the

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Nintendo Switch, PlayStation five or whatever
will breathe a little bit more extra life

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into the Nintendo Switch. I don't. I don't think as much as anything

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else. I mean, look,
it's nice. I don't think assuming these

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four games are Petiment, Hi Fi, Rush, Grounded, and cecause I

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don't think any of those are going
to be like some momentous thing on Nintendo

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Switch. It's going to be nice
to have on there, for sure,

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and I'm glad those games will reach
new people, but you know, it's

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it's definitely something you'll scoff at it, but you know it's it's definitely not

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as good as one New Mario game. This does mean, though, that

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if they are able to like cobble
together a pretty decent number of releases this

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year for the Switch. That thing
probably does end up catching up to the

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PS two. Now, that seems
pretty reasonable. Kind of that matters,

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Like I don't know why I care. I just think it's an interesting thing

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that could happen. Bollatro is coming
out on the Nintendo Switch. Everyone letting

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y'all know, by the way,
about that Xbox thing. I'm losing my

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mind a little bit on that about
you know, other people. We're saying,

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hey, the Xbox is gonna start
releasing more games than other platforms,

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and everyone starts freaking out, its
drawing their own conclusions about what that means,

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like Xbox is out of the console
business. And then they make a

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video and they say we're going to
release more games than other platforms, and

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the big takeaway from a lot of
people seems to be like, well,

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this is why you can't trust rumors
or sometimes honestly, sometimes I get mad,

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specifically, well, wow, this
way you can't trust Jeff Grubb,

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And then I get mad and then
they bring up like wood Waker from three

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years ago, which was my fault, and get I get kind of shoot

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hot on just behalf about it.
It is like it's been an annoying one,

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especially with the director, to where
people are like, yeah, this

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is like he's covered his ass when
he says it was it's getting delayed from

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this day, and I'm like,
I never said it was the fifteenth.

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I said maybe, but I might
know, And it's like, but yeah,

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the thing of course I come out
and say, hey, I heard

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it. It might get delayed because
of the Xbox thing. That is something

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I heard. So it just kind
of looks that way if you've only half

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heard everything, which is of course
what most people are. They're in that

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situation where they just kind of half
hear these rumors. They're not listening to

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the primary source of like our show
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like I go see out there like
kind of get I'm like, he's saying

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exactly what I'm thinking, and I'm
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and recognize that these people are fighting
or imagining a version of me that isn't

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real. It's a character in their
head that says these things I never actually

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said. I just like it's maybe
it is real. Maybe it's out there

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and they're manifesting of a different version
of you right now. Shit, I

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don't know, like even like you
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said, hey, they're taught a
buck years of War, So what you

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say is they're they're considering Gears of
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years of Jeff Grubb says Gears of
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like not what he said. Yeah, I remember seeing that that float around,

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and I'm like, when did he
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all day to day podcast on night. That's how you don't know when when

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the pop up. You're like,
he said it on the March of the

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Friends and I was like, okay
too, that makes it sound dumb.

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It's Last than the ten Dogs a
very cool name. Yeah, I came

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up that podcast. That's a high
quality. Yeah. I literally did do

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four podcasts on Tuesday that was messed
up. You're insane. I don't know.

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I forgot. It was like I
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then that night I forgot. We
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Dogs, so I'm like, oh
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We got through it. We did
good. How do you enjoy the

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sports? It was good, It
was great. Those guys are awesome to

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talk to. Turns out, Patrick
Kleppik and Robs at me very good at

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podcasting those boys on what they're doing. Yeah, they know what they're doing.

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Ye. All right? Uh?
Anyone to have any games they would

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like to talk about? And by
anyone, I mean Jordan, do you

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have any games you want to chat
about? Crew here? Oh? Well,

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all those games I'd love to talk
about. Brother. Let me tell

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you something, guys, we're not
even supposed to confirm we have that game

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we have. We're supposed to be
careful. That demo though very good,

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though unrelated to what we were just
talking about. Yeah that's what you're talking

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about, Yes, bro, I'm
talking about Hell Divers. Hell Divers as

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Hell is the is the game over
the century in my opinion. Like I

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finally got to download it and play
through that start bit and I was like,

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this is this is so funny,
and this is clearly made by people

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that absolutely hate Americans. You've got
to love that, and the American military

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industrial complex is gets shot on constantly, and I'm like, yes, what

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a game. But Yeah, that
is very good. I want to play

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more of that I've got. I've
still got the last couple of things in

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like a Dragon to Do, I've
got more three I want to play like

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shit is just going but I want
to go play. I have played fifty

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five hours of Suicide Squad, and
I want to play more of it.

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So I want to play more suicides. I think you found the right place

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to talk about Suicide Squad fifty five
hours. Listen. I thought it would

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be fun for like ten, Wow, how is she still fun in fifty

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five? Oh? Man? It's
like it's just like you know when you

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find like a snack or a sweet
or something that when you go to the

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shops, you don't have to think
about what you're gonna get. You're just

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like that's that's a banker. It's
never gonna be a ten out of ten.

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It's like it's like a solid,
consistent restaurant. But it is like

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a really good bag of Doarita was
hitting when you were having a Colorado night.

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Yeah, it's exactly as bad and
as good as as every other time.

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And just I like the way the
guns shoot in that game. I

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apologize. The guns feel nice and
just there's something about the speed at what

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you're in and out of objectives.
Excellent. This is like, this is

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like the division affication of all games, and I welcome more of it.

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Which the characters? Do you like
this? Because I'm a big fan of

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anybody with a jet pack, so
I kind of like dead Shot. I

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have played almost exclusively Harley Quinn,
and it's not just because I'm a pervert.

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I just think her her stuff working
for me. Yeah, I'm on

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both sides of that camp. I
am a perv and I do like how

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she controlled Mike real quick. I
mean, did you see those the Mandalorian

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game news where they they're like making
a Response making a Star Wars first person

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shooter, which we already knew they
confirmed that publicly, but yeah, now

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it's like, hey, it's gonna
it's gonna be a jetpack game. You're

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gonna be able to run around with
that. Is that exciting for you?

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Oh? That's incredibly exciting for me. Can you tell me about this game

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a lot of time ago to oh? Yes, yes, long all the

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time ago. Yeah, but again
they did confirm that respond was making a

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Star Wars first person shooter, but
yeah, it is a very like fast,

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fast paced, mobility based game.
It's going to be a respawn first

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person shooter. So pretty cool.
I played Vanquish for the first time not

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long ago. Oh you should take
some those from that. I was talking

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to you grub about Vanquish, right, you were like, just like yesterday,

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you were like, I mean,
I want to play Vanquish again.

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I'm like a fun game. You
know what, It's a four hour game,

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isn't that kind of amazing? Rules? Yeah? I love that.

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You know what game? I wish. I wish I was playing right now

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after learning about it about an hour
ago. Oh yeah, I think I

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didn't know about this. I knew
somebody was making like a Zoda CDI.

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It's bier game. I watched you
play this on on professional Fridays. Were

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you there from the beginning? Mic? Wow, Yes, I the developer,

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Yes, CD I like CD se
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I thought that was a goof Yeah. No, yeah, that's how

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they spelled the name of it because
it's CD I. Yes, it's really

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good. I've barely ever played those
games. I think about those Zoda CDI

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games constantly. I made YTM and
d's about the Zoda cd I games.

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Okay, that's my problem. So
god, they just absolutely like forget about

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nailing the assignment. I have never
seen anybody pick an assignment for themselves and

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then nail it like they're fucking Martin
Luther about to do a reformation, like

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absolutely killing it with what they set
out to do. Like you're at forest

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level and like the perspective on the
top of the trees is all fucked up.

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It's stuff. The bad animation is
wonderful. Oh my god, I

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love it. I'm so happy for
you, Mike play this game. I've

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I've already reached out and begged for
a code. I'll take twenty bucks if

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I have to. But this looks
like my jam one million. I was

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having so much bud just watching you
play this game. It was like surprisingly

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more fun than I was even expecting. Obviously, the cut scenes they're going

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for what the CDI Zelda game cut
scenes are, which is like this really

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unhinged animation style that the weird way
the characters like move like there's a weird

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physical camera, right, It's not
like it's not like cell animated, right,

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It's like they are doing every hand
frame freehand. So it's like they're

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just going for it. They're like
not anchored to any reality. That's great.

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And then like you know, the
postal, the platforming and the fighting.

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It's but it's not like so bad
that it's on fun and it's kind

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of bad in a charming way.
And then like oh, I'm like,

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oh, I know what to do
with this, so I'll just go to

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town and get that thing, come
back here, solve this puzzle. And

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it's sort of like low stakes that
enables to be like, Okay, well,

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I know when I get through this, I'm probably gonna meet some other

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new freak that's gonna be an awesome
new cut scene. And that's like really

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keeping me going. So I was
I was having a surprise and the good

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time with it. We played it
for almost an hour, Yeah, got

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pretty close to an hour of that, and we didn't intend to play it

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for that long, and I think
we were just like all into it.

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So it's so wild, like how
the original Zelda CDI games looking how they

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captured the year and like, to
be clear, if you weren't there,

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it's not like oh that age badly. I remember being at best Buy at

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the CDI demo station. It's seeing
that when it was due it like you

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know, I was a kid.
It's still was like, what the fuck

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is it? This is wild?
Right? Who? Like? This is

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like? At that point, I'm
like, I think I started learning about

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like a Chinese knockoffs. I'm like, is this some like someone stole the

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IP and did this? It's like, no, this was fully licensed.

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It was wild. I did run
a poll to see if the chat new

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about your themannowdog dot com, and
about one third of people do not know

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what that is. So that's what
we're dealing with these days. OK,

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that's alright, Okay, that was
very early, like user created the proto

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web two point zero stuff hymn d
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to our hot topic here, unless
anyone else has anything else up to bring.

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I mentioned during the bomb cast that
it's rumored the Pokemon Worlds will be

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heading to San Francisco in twenty twenty
five, twenty six, twenty six,

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twenty six. Oh, I got
plenty of time to train then, and

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then I I downloaded. I downloaded
those good old Pokemon because I hadn't really

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done competitive that much in uh or
VGC the Pokemon Old Testament. Yeah,

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yeah, uh, Scarlett Violet,
Scarlet Violet, and then uh, you

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know, I hop on the ladder. I just get a hot rental team,

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you know, from one of my
favorite Poka Tube, and I'm like,

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all right, all right, I'm
maxin and relaxing. And then it

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kind of it opened up to me
that I think dynamaxing may have been Dynamaxing

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from Sword and Shield may have been
the best and worst competitive mechanic gimmick in

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competitive Pokemon. Z moves they're okay, Mega evolution, they're okay. I

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really like to rastalizing my Pokemon,
But like dynamaxing, it's like, okay,

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you're useful for three turns and then
you're gone. Yeah. I think

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that the dynamaxon stuff is interesting because
I watch a lot of like competitive Pokemon.

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I refuse to call it VGC for
branding reasons. Oh of course,

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the dynamax in kind of it was
really interesting at the start of Scarlett and

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Violet, just how much it threw
everyone off because obviously it adds kind of

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endless permutations. But I think people
are getting pretty comfortable with it, and

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considering this is very likely to be
a longer than traditional cycle for Scarlet and

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Violet being the primity game, I
think people are mostly happy with it,

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like and especially in terms of the
I talk to some people that play the

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competitive and they don't have the they
don't have the lst of issues they usually

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have. It's like a post note
of issues, not like a comedy scroll,

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a christianicho scroll of issues. So, yeah, how are you getting

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on? What's the metal looking like
the now? So I forget the specific

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rule set that they have announced now, but there are legendaries allowed. And

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let me tell you, Hifu the
water type is dominating these. Really,

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every single game I go into there
is an Ershifu doing surging strikes and I'll

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have like a focus band and it's
like, Okay, everyone has you,

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everyone's using you the same way,
yet I'm still losing to you, even

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though I know how to anticipate for
it. Now. God, oh,

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flutter Main is all so everywhere Jordan. It is like setting everything up.

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Flutter means an interesting one and the
end an upcoming trading card game set.

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There is a special flutter Main card
that was drawn by the artist from Breath

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of the Wild, so that would
be a oh, that would be a

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nice one. I'm sorry, I
don't know their name. They just go

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buy artists from Breath of the Wild
in my opinion, right, they probably

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appreciate that. But John, I'm
going to the EU, I see in

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London and April, So why don't
you come over? Come on? Just

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why really? This website can justify
it? Come on? Yeah, we

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said Dan to Fargo. We could
send me to Europe, right, Come

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on. The other Pokemon that's a
dominating the charts right now. Jordan is

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for Rigger raff. Oh yeah,
and guys are all just constantly so close

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to saying a slur. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I

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mean that's what Pokemon is. It's
all just a series of slurs, you

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know, like all that Giganta Max
and z move. That stuff really threw

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me off, even when it was
just the Mega evolution. I never liked

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Boom or Alert. Look, I
just don't was like, what what is

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all this shit? What like there's
gotta be some stupid gimmick that has some

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overly long animation frame when it's always
just I don't know. I hated all

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that crap that never did anything for
me. I'd be so happy if the

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next Pokemon doesn't have to have some
other new bullshit gimmick thing like it's still

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going to have them and the last
one. But but Mike, what if

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you summon your Pokemon and then it
has like a crystal hat of like a

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balloon? Yeah, stupid, bad, dumb hate it. What if I

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gave you a crystal hat of a
balloon? Everything should look like CDI games.

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That's the only thing I like now, Okay, all right, I

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don't think I can do that.
But someone else can do that, Tim

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Tweeney, he's working on it.
Anyone else playing anything they'd like to chat

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about before we get to the hot
topic. It's more like a Dragon in

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Blotcha. Actually, Jordan, you
mentioned you got a few things to clean

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up in Like a Dragon. I
just want to ask you, how about

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how many hours did you put into
Like a Dragon? Oh Jesus Christ.

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I think by the time I reviewed
it, I was out like sixty or

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something like that. Okay, and
I've maybe forty Yeah, I've maybe chucked

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like twenty or thirty. Subsequently,
it's hard to judge the amount of time

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you spend playing a game for review, because like, some of that will

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be playing it like a normal person, and some of it will be like

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00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:21.480
speed run strategies where you're just going
A to B missing all that shit that

406
00:26:21.519 --> 00:26:25.640
you would like to do but you
physically cannot. Although should say that gives

407
00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:27.680
a lot of time with that,
it was just a busy January. So

408
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.240
yeah, that's a hot ass game. I really hope that doesn't get forgotten

409
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:36.079
when we get done to get time. No, I think it's gonna be

410
00:26:36.160 --> 00:26:38.319
just fine. Yeah. I feel
like you could repush that game out during

411
00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.920
the summer with some DLC because of
the Hawaii setting and like oh summer vacation.

412
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.559
Yeah, the Hawaii stuffs hilarious because
I had I had a friend who

413
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.839
was wanting to do some coverage of
it, just like get some videos like

414
00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:52.039
decking around Hawaii and they're like,
oh yeah, when do you get to

415
00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:53.480
that point? It's like, as
like eight hours in the game, You've

416
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.839
got a lot of game to play
before you get there. It's like such

417
00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.000
a hard thing to tell to people
too. It's like this game rules.

418
00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:00.680
It's like, well, what does
it get star arted? Okay about that?

419
00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:04.880
Do you mean that get started?
Yeah? Yeah, what do you

420
00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.559
mean starting? Yeah? Because even
when you get to Hawaii, it takes

421
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.200
a while to get started from there. It's so good. It's just so

422
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:15.559
fun. Yeah, I like that
game Aton. Yeah, I think Like

423
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.480
a Dragon has kind of broken me
on like JRPG combat, which I love

424
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:23.799
and I hate anyway, but they
should more more. JRPGs should be like

425
00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.440
this in terms of their combat.
This is just really really good stuff.

426
00:27:26.599 --> 00:27:30.440
Yeah. Maybe I'd like that one
game that everyone liked last year that I

427
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:36.680
hated, Mike, Well, you
stars see of Thieves, that JRPG classic.

428
00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:41.440
All right, Jordan, we have
you on VCR today because today's hot

429
00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.480
topic is inspired by you and you
had posited on Gay Mess Mornings this week.

430
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:52.160
Is cloud Strife a popular character?
And I've assembled, with the help

431
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:57.720
of the Internet, twenty five options
here whether or not cloud Strife is popular.

432
00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.799
Gonna go through these twenty five We
can discuss and deliberate as much as

433
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:07.079
we want, or it can just
be a quick answer. But ultimately,

434
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.799
Jordan, we will defer to you
whether or not we will give you ultimate

435
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.920
power here, whether or not cloud
Strife is more popular? Did we fight

436
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:22.279
a war so they wouldn't hold over? You're in the clear this time,

437
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:27.000
Okay, So I oh god,
what the fuck? Oh You're smearing all

438
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.359
right, well and jamming bye bye. I can't feel it, John,

439
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:36.000
It's this is set up to a
dummy battery. I don't know what's going

440
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:40.519
on anyway. Anyway, all right, you heard you heard me, Mike.

441
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:48.480
Anyway, first pairing here is is
cloud Strife more popular than Miles Tail's

442
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.480
power? Well, at least you
look alike. The similar we really have

443
00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:57.680
to establish are we talking? Is
this well the man on the street and

444
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.920
know who these people are? Or
is it if you get a room fill

445
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:03.519
of a housing gamers, who are
we voting for us? Like that?

446
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:08.519
That's what's difficult here. It's so
different when compared to like my mom versus

447
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:15.640
like even like an average ish gamer. Right, but even then I think

448
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:22.160
I, let's say average purely purely
because of like the film. I think

449
00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.640
Tales like absolutely sweeps this unfortunately,
because I hate the Sonic Extended Universe and

450
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:32.720
all that sale within it. But
I think the Tales does when Tales was

451
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:37.880
the first one, He's fine,
right, everybody likes Tales like. Nobody

452
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.119
has a problem with Tales. I
actively dislike Tales. I actively disliked that.

453
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:45.440
I'm right now, I am telling
you that I actually dislike Tales,

454
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:49.759
oh Man, not me. I
remember Sonic Tuesday. I remember seeing Tales

455
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.519
Are the first time and being like
what six or seven, thinking well,

456
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:56.799
this is the greatest character I have
ever seen. I was a younger brother.

457
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.799
So I guess you played as Tales
a lot. Okay, yeah,

458
00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.559
that's hard. I think. I
don't know, Jeff, what do you

459
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.279
think I mean? If yeah,
again it's tough man on the street,

460
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:14.519
it's gonna be Tails. And I
mean I mean, if you if you

461
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.240
stick within, like hey, somewhat
savvy audience, I think it's also probably

462
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:21.880
still Tales. I think there'll be
a lot of people in that savvy audience

463
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:25.240
who like Cloud more. But yeah, everyone's gonna know whose Tails is.

464
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.279
There might be some people like I
don't, I don't play NERD RPGs.

465
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.359
Even then, obviously they're probably gonna
know Cloud is. But Tails is just

466
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:38.480
even a little bit more famous.
All Right. The next uh person we're

467
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:45.200
comparing Cloud to character, we're comparing
Cloud too is Steve from like Steve Clears.

468
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:48.680
I'm afraid Steve absolutely clear. Oh
yes, come on, no,

469
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:53.599
make don't say that I know the
name. I think you I think because

470
00:30:53.640 --> 00:30:56.759
if you say Okay, well what
name these characters? It's gonna be Cloud.

471
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.720
I don't think that's true for like
most of the people that are still

472
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:07.160
alive today, Like I think you
get a certain age bracket and it's it's

473
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:12.559
every way. And look, Minecraft
obviously has been played by way more people

474
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:17.720
than again, like, do do
all these kids really go? Like?

475
00:31:17.799 --> 00:31:22.440
Yeah, and I love Minecraft?
Steve. Yeah, Minecraft, Steve.

476
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:26.640
I don't believe you is a Lethoro
meme. Why do you think people were

477
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.720
like crying in common when they finally
came into Smash Brothers. It was like

478
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:36.960
the biggest thing ever. Yes,
who cares? So that's an interesting point.

479
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.920
Steve is in Smash I mean Cloud
is too. But I feel like

480
00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.440
I feel like I've seen Steve in
a target. I don't think I've ever

481
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.200
seen a Cloud anything other than the
game. You're getting absolutely cooked in the

482
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.799
chat here, Mike Unit, you
fucking grew up. It's a Steve,

483
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:56.640
it's a Steve, It's a Steve
universe. It's a Stephen universe. Fuo't

484
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.599
I don't agree. I don't agree
with it. I think him. I

485
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:06.400
think Steve personally, Steve, I
love clud clude my boy? Is that

486
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:12.400
the mouth or go tea. Was
it even supposed to? Yeahs a goatee.

487
00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:16.119
That's who all these kids are playing
as. Yeah, it's that's bad

488
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:21.480
for the culture. That's not good. I agree that it probably broke Twitter.

489
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.440
I just still you asked them to
name him. I think most kids

490
00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.839
will be like, that's the minecraft
guy. I don't think that. It

491
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.039
feels like it doesn't count. Okay, okay, all right, moving on

492
00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:35.119
the next Some of these, keep
in mind are suggested by the folks at

493
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.839
home. Next, why are you
addicating responsibility for what's happening here? I

494
00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:46.359
don't know who the the next person
is because Bob's and Doug Nut that's one

495
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.680
of the greatest ball players of all
time in video games, Bob's and Doug

496
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.240
Nut, Royd's or something. I
don't know. This sounds like someone that

497
00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:57.359
like Don would be telling a story
about how he played this game with the

498
00:32:57.519 --> 00:33:01.200
DA and like we, oh,
we should played about every weekend. Okay,

499
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:08.839
like someone good is still Dad's lucky
charts. That is what all manequins

500
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.000
sound like to me for this that's
fair. Yeah, people as people like

501
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:16.599
I know that this is a real
person. But for the longest time I

502
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.519
was like heo, the fuck is
Ken Greffy Jr. That's not a real

503
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:25.240
person. He falls into that that
cothically for me, Jane is Pablo Sanchez

504
00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.680
one of the characters that that people
suggested Backyard Baseball? From Backyard Baseball?

505
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.519
Do you guys think Pablo Sanchez or
Cloud Strife is more clouds? Okay?

506
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:37.400
I did, but but I did
see JJ. I think it was JJ

507
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:43.680
Watt, the famous football player wearing
a Pablo Sanchez shirt on a Pat mcabee

508
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:47.359
show like two weeks ago. You
can know that JJ Watt also has like

509
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:53.119
a Materia necklace somewhere, right,
You're right, totally all right. Next

510
00:33:53.279 --> 00:34:00.920
character, Krados. This is a
good one. I feel like both can

511
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.559
kind of be niche ish, right, I think just because Kratos as the

512
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:12.960
de facto PlayStation man now I think
maybe cadries it. He's also been in

513
00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:15.559
like more games now like well,
okay, wow, there's a lot of

514
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:19.480
weird there's a lot of weird spin
offs. God damn it. Yeah,

515
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:23.880
guys, but like he stars in
his games, it's probably as Krados.

516
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:30.400
This one is very difficult, actually, I think I think if my mom

517
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.320
look at this, you have to
like split it into I think PS two,

518
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.119
PS three, Kratoles is pretty far
behind, but like Sony Santo Monica,

519
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.760
like boy, Cratos is like right
up there. But it's like you

520
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:44.519
combine it all together though, I
think so, it's like I think when

521
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.159
you put all together, probably his
Crados. Yeah, Cratos was a popular

522
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.199
When I tweeted us, Cratos was
like one of the most popular ones that

523
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:55.119
people are like as as as as
these people and as Kratos and these other

524
00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:59.079
suggestions. I was like, you
need to get two thousand and five.

525
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:01.880
I think these were close. This
is like the most interesting one so far

526
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.559
to me. I do. I
think that's true? The thing right now?

527
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:08.079
Yeah, create this is probably right. This might be at the height

528
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.159
of his popularity ever right now,
right like I think it's maybe yes,

529
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.760
Like I think it's maybe down.
He'll for create us, whereas Cloud might

530
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:19.800
live on in a better way my
age better. I don't know, all

531
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:25.440
right, gentlemen. Next one is
Sonic? Oh is Cloud Strife more popular

532
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.159
than Sonic? The Hedgehog? There's
like three things more popular than Sonic,

533
00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:34.719
and one of them is Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, look,

534
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:39.559
if Tales is more popular than I'm
absolutely fucking low to say it, but

535
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:45.280
he has, in fact more popular
than Cloude. Yeah, I mean pretty

536
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.320
easily too. Yeah, okay,
all right, we're talking about this the

537
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:52.760
other day, like Sonic arguably gets
on the Rushmore. Is that popular?

538
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.480
Not a single good game to his
name, but he gets up there like

539
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.280
that's not a single gig you got
you? People are so wid out with

540
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.920
the Sonic is never good crazy.
Yeah, I would put Sonic on the

541
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:08.719
most recognizable rush More. Yeah,
dahn Mario. Okay, all right,

542
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:21.320
Next, is this might be similar
to credos here master Chief Anymore Anymore show.

543
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:23.559
I don't think it's very close,
though. I think it's weird that

544
00:36:23.639 --> 00:36:27.840
he that there's a Halo show and
it seems like people on Twitter like are

545
00:36:27.920 --> 00:36:31.360
trying to convince me to watch it, right, so I think that people

546
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:37.599
on Twitter are like to despise that
show. There's a turn grub oh yeah,

547
00:36:37.039 --> 00:36:39.159
like season two is good and you
should watch it. I'm like,

548
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:43.360
why are you advocating for this?
I'm never ever gonna do that. No,

549
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.320
I'm just thought, I don't care
how good it is. If that

550
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:49.559
was the if that was the Twin
t Tens, the Master Chief absolutely,

551
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:52.840
but like Xbox have beaten us mine
into the grounds, like, no one

552
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:58.480
can funk about Halo or master Chief
anymore? Is Cloud? Right? You

553
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:00.480
know what's when the last Halo game
came out, oldest streamers that were playing

554
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.639
it were guys in their late twenties
that were like teenagers. When Halo three

555
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.800
it was not young people. Young
people don't give a shit about Halo.

556
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:13.039
Yeah. Yeah, the only story
anyone's worried about anymore is Cody Roads his

557
00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:16.320
story, and Cloud Strife is close
to a Cody Rhodes that's rather than master

558
00:37:16.440 --> 00:37:19.840
Chief. Master Chief had his chance. I think, yeah, this is

559
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:22.800
this is probably the first one where
Cloud actually comes out ahead. Although I

560
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:28.119
like I said, player right,
No, Bob Bobson, Doug Nut Definitely

561
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:34.159
he's more popular. Come on,
okay, next character is Pikachu? Okay,

562
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.000
no, got did you say that
Pikachu doesn't go on the Mount rushmore

563
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:42.159
of most recognizable video game character.
I think Pikachu has really transcended. Like

564
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.639
you think people look at Pikachu like
video game character. Really, Listen,

565
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.480
that's not what I'm Okay. If
you're saying that, then that's fine.

566
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.840
That's a different conversation. It's a
video game podcast where even like the people

567
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:57.280
in the Big Game podcast, forget
if the anime or game happened. First,

568
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.239
of course it came from a game. The question is who's more popular.

569
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.320
It's Pikachu. Of course, I'm
just saying he's like, yeah,

570
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.119
transcended in a lot of Yeah.
If you're saying he's transceatedd that that yes,

571
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:09.199
that's different, that's yes. I'm
just like, if we are saying

572
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:14.239
a video and character that's the most
recognizable, it's Pikachu. But yes,

573
00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:16.320
and that's not even a picture of
him from a video game. Even the

574
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.039
picture here is from the cartain.
Hey, I just googled and I picked

575
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:25.920
the first row, all right,
criticizing you the way you talk just sounds

576
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:30.239
like it. Yeah, I indignation
of my voice at all times. Of

577
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:35.360
course, also want to I want
to kind of drag one hundred thieves through

578
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.960
the mud because of their Pokemon collab. It looks like they just googled.

579
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:43.519
They did what I did. It
googled like a picture of Pokemon and then

580
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:45.679
the first result they just slapped on
a T shirt. Oh mate. The

581
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:52.159
meta of the Pokemon collaborative and fashion
is so fucking washed that stuff they did

582
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.920
with fending and it was literally just
like a Dragon Night PNG on a seven

583
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.159
thousand dollars bag, like fuck you. Like at least Pokemon Center when they're

584
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.280
putting other prod they put are on
their T shirts and I was like,

585
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.000
okay, this is fine, I'll
buy this. But as you say,

586
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.800
those Charlatans one hundred thieves whatever they
do like hold you or whatever, like

587
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:15.440
oh yeah, chart is Ard put
on a hoodie charge seventy dollars. Yeah.

588
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.400
The people that just make a living
and just reacting to other people's videos

589
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:22.840
on the internet are like, yeah, that they're taking the easy route.

590
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.440
Surprising. Do you guys see that
we had a bunch of polls for each

591
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:30.519
of these and do you guys see
the results for Cloud versus Pikachu forty seven

592
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:42.159
to one Cloud? It was all
right, Cloud, has Cloud won any

593
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.400
of these Cloud beat pops and Doug
Nut and that's yeah. What was the

594
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:50.000
other one that we gave to Cloud? Was it a master Chief? It

595
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.960
was eighteen to twenty six in favor
of master Chief. Oh okay, that's

596
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:55.920
doesn't know what they're fucking talking about. I apologize, but that's chat's for

597
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.639
old people. Fill a fucking boomerm
this this next one may be another sweep

598
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:07.000
here because it is Cloud strife versus
Mario. No way, Apparently Chad picked

599
00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.719
a Cloud over Tails, which is
they did pick yes twenty five or seventeen?

600
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.000
Yeah, absolutely not. I mean
I think it. I thought to

601
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:20.239
argue about Mickey versus Mario. I
don't think Cloud's gonna have the chain.

602
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.960
Sure, Okay, let's change this
up. Who is the the highest tier

603
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:29.639
Mushroom Kingdom character that beats Cloud,
Like who gets up the roster? But

604
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:34.480
Sto Cloud Stowe beats them, Bowser
beats Cloud, Yoshi beats Cloud, Peach

605
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:39.960
beats Cloud. Don't Toad? Which
Toad is weird because like because like I

606
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.239
almost anything in Mario Kart is gonna
be if you were in in Mario Karta,

607
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.599
especially if're Mario Kart eight. I
think you beat cloudy. I don't

608
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.079
think it beats Cloud. Okay,
okay, so right there you go.

609
00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:57.159
The the Bowser, Koopa trick Kids
or whatever, probably don't beat Cloud.

610
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:00.880
I don't know if I'm gonna say
Burdo is more famous than Clo. Okay,

611
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:04.400
no, no, just Burdo beat
Cloud. Yeah, that's what I'm

612
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.159
saying I don't think so okay,
all right, all right, next one?

613
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:14.960
Next one is my sorry, maybe
popular than more popular than Warrior,

614
00:41:15.039 --> 00:41:22.079
but not than Luis Wallawig. Sure
for the freaks clip. Sure, Next

615
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:27.039
one is my personal favorite? Is
cloud Strife more popular than the L block

616
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:32.559
from Tetris? That just looks like
a really preemptive review of Final Fantasy se

617
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:44.199
L game L game. Uh,
that's not a character with that attitude.

618
00:41:45.039 --> 00:41:47.199
Yeah, if if we're if we're
counting, if it has to be an

619
00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:52.199
actual character not just a concept.
Like no one is putting an L block

620
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.880
on their top like five hundred,
like they would put yes recognized with the

621
00:41:55.960 --> 00:42:04.559
question answer it cloud as the sort
of this and indeed every debate cloud Okay,

622
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.039
yeah, well I'll give the cloud
Moving on. I forget which game

623
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:13.719
he's from, but his cloud Strife
more popular popular then Warren from that one

624
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:21.800
fighting game, Warden, what fighting
game is this? Wore something? Warren's

625
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.679
great, it's a giant bomb lore, it's a Warren Ohio near me?

626
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:30.519
Like are you okay? Why you
just heard a word? And you're like,

627
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:32.519
there's a city near me? Name
that because that's all I have was

628
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.800
Warren who the fuck is Warren?
Okay again, Giant bomb Lord, don't

629
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:44.119
worry about it. Warren from Let's
See Deadly Moves, Deadly Moved Moves.

630
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.400
I'll I'm you know what, I'm
gonna be gracious and give this one to

631
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:53.639
Cloud. I think it's probably although
as as fun as my mammity recalls,

632
00:42:53.679 --> 00:42:58.519
I don't think any of the Sadia
games were subject to science, So I

633
00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:02.119
think I think a little more popular
with that. Yeah, in the fighting

634
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:07.320
game scientific community. Yeah that's true, that's true. Next character is Billy

635
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:15.400
Hatcher. Yeah, if you don't
like graduations to Cloud all right, easy

636
00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.719
one, easy one for Cloud olthough
kind of looks like him again, Yeah,

637
00:43:19.800 --> 00:43:22.840
but no one that looks exactly the
same. You know this could be

638
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:27.400
him, though, right, Slap
a chicken hat or a chocobo hat on

639
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:34.639
this guy? All right? Is
Cloud Strife more popular than the Red Bird

640
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:39.800
from Angry Birds twenty twenty four?
Yes, twenty seventeen. Fu No,

641
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.079
okay, there's like there's a there's
an Angry Barts theme park, and like

642
00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.519
Portugal, I think like it's wow. Yeah, Anger Birds had their time.

643
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.559
We all got tired of it.
Yeah, yeah, but I still

644
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:57.360
think you show these two pictures.
To most people, they're gonna know the

645
00:43:57.440 --> 00:44:00.880
red bird more than Yeah, I
think I just call him. They just

646
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.679
call him angry birds. Though they
don't call him red birds. They don't

647
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:07.960
give you a count. The people
that say that aren't gonna know cloud stripes.

648
00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:14.400
They are fucking Cloud. We're talking
about a random person on the street.

649
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.960
I think I think I think there's
a good chance to know who Cloud

650
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:28.519
is. No fu this angry bird
ry the side. It's not a review

651
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:32.039
of angry birds. I'm sorry,
but I think listen, I think it's

652
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:36.679
gonna be Maybe it's close, but
I still think it's angry, but angry

653
00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:42.280
bird. I'm glad that Jordan's in
charge here, exactly fucking Cloud clears and

654
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.519
I think, boys, when I'm
in when I'm in l A for s

655
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:47.400
GF, we get a mic,
we go on to the street and we

656
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:51.880
can do this. We get that's
a good idea. Yeah, the ones

657
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.599
that are like really contested here.
Yes, that's good, Okay, all

658
00:44:54.679 --> 00:45:00.360
right. Next one on the list
is cloud Strife more popular than all one

659
00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.079
Pokemon, No, all of them, all of them, maybe more popular

660
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.559
than Tangela is one of them?
Voltorb. You know these names. Yeh

661
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.159
was a Gen one freak. I
had my poked dextree days a week.

662
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:20.639
I speaking to tell you what level
every Pokemon evolved level they learned their best

663
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.639
to move. Remember, I could
tell you when fucking Crabby became Kingler and

664
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:30.079
learned to crabs. There you go
already knows you just said the answer for

665
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:32.280
this one. Yeah. Yeah,
I think the average person would know,

666
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:37.760
like most of these Gen one Pokemon
by name, Oh, definitely, especially

667
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:40.360
because this was the only that was
available when Pokemon Goal was the really hot

668
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:47.079
ship. So I think that's the
put over. What's the Gen one Mount

669
00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:55.800
Rushmore? If you can't include Pikachu
or the starters? Oh, ev no

670
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:00.480
legendaries to be safe, no legendaries, no legend dig Doug or whatever the

671
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:05.440
hell's name is do? I like
Cube and a lot the other people,

672
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:15.599
like Cubane is very popular. Is
definitely Mount Rushmore. I mean like PG

673
00:46:15.880 --> 00:46:20.360
is like a very quintessential Pokemon to
me in a lot of ways. But

674
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:24.039
I think it, Yeah, I
think the cut like based on current popularity

675
00:46:24.119 --> 00:46:29.800
and how the Pokemon company merchandised them
to like old people, because it's evy,

676
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.320
it's gang are, it's probably godded
dose just in terms of that call.

677
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.920
Yeah, that's definitely it. And
I don't know, like there's there's

678
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:45.840
a lot of storax Is. Actually
would maybe like we're sleeping on Side Duck

679
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:50.480
though, because I feel like people
should be on there. I think Side

680
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.719
Store the ones that, like,
as a more casual Pokemon fan, I

681
00:46:52.800 --> 00:46:59.360
would imagine that Aunt Rushmore be in
there, just based on the mess.

682
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.920
Like, there's a lot of good
Pokemon here. It's way easier to say

683
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.639
which one aren't good, like that
like the thing of eggs and that mine

684
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:16.039
like and like you know what over
there, brother that no one cares about

685
00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:21.599
Golden Goldene was boring because what's the
one that's the snake or whatever? The

686
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.719
thing that's yes, and then what's
the what's the thing that has come backwards?

687
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.280
I was trying to figure out how
to get you to say that,

688
00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:30.440
but you said it for me.
Yeah, guy, I'm here for you,

689
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:35.360
Bud, all right, Yeah,
and that one rules that one does

690
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:40.320
start Pokemon podcast. I think so
Cloud wishes he was a genuine Pokemon Yeah,

691
00:47:40.840 --> 00:47:45.760
yeah, sure. Is Cloud Strife
more popular than the Dragon quest slimee?

692
00:47:46.039 --> 00:47:52.280
Yes? Yes, okay, yeah, I mean not in Japan.

693
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:55.800
Yeah, I think well, I
mean, I play Cloud's pretty poplar in

694
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:59.000
Japan. Also, he is pretty
popular in Japan. But I think the

695
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:00.559
slimes like, well, I'm iconic. Right, here's what we have to

696
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:04.559
do. We gotta send Dan and
I to Japan and we just ask a

697
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.800
bunch of people. Is cloud strife
more popular than this slime? Yeah?

698
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:10.599
There it is. You can get
an intended controller that's a that's a blue

699
00:48:10.639 --> 00:48:15.000
slime that's like literally just an upturned
blue slime with all the sweatch buttons on

700
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:17.920
it. That was pretty good.
You can't do that with You can show

701
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.440
the slime to a bunch of people
who play video games in the US.

702
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:25.960
I think a lot of them are
gonna think that's a You're gonna yeah,

703
00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:31.039
it's like, that's ridiculous, mainly
because of best fucking website. People know

704
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:35.840
what is in the US. I
like, I'm gonna show this to my

705
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:38.079
kid. I bet she's gonna say
that's a meep Alright, They're gonna think

706
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:44.960
it's one off Doctor Robotics, bead
beans. You go from mean beans.

707
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:47.000
I would have said Pokemon or something, all right. Anyway, Anyway,

708
00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:51.280
there's a lot of people would think
it's a Pokemon that is awesome. True,

709
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.760
it looks like one of those baby
digimon. Oh that's a good shot.

710
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:59.440
That's a good shout. The next
one is very spicy, y'all.

711
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:07.559
Is Cloud Strife more popular than Sora
from Kingdom Hearts? I can just sit

712
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:13.079
back and let this one happens.
I mean, okay, this is another

713
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:16.079
great question of like is it well
known or is it well liked? Because

714
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:21.800
no one fucking likes son people,
and I'm glad that there aren't like two

715
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.679
people in my life that I have
to deal with liking sorra a Ton.

716
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:29.639
Yeah doesn't. Sota can't lace clouds
boots. People know that, guys,

717
00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:32.159
that guy's name is fucking Disney Kingdom
Hearts or something like that. People know

718
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:37.960
Cloud motherfucking Strife as Clouds in Kingdom
Hearts and you beat him. That's not

719
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:45.639
It's not Canada. I don't acknowledge
Kingdom Hearts or anyone that likes like make

720
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:52.880
them look strong, brother, exactly. Do not show sorta Kingdom Hearts taking

721
00:49:52.960 --> 00:50:00.239
damage or holding a steel chair.
I think it might be sa. The

722
00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.119
story is just like, hey,
what if we like made Cloud Stripe a

723
00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:08.480
Disney character that's like the whole thing
here with soa uh sorry make make a

724
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:15.440
Disney character code word for make them
look dumb? All right, gone,

725
00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:22.199
fucking gone. What is it about
Kingdom Hearts the songs specifically that makes people

726
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:30.760
not just dislike just look at it. It's like just like that Cloud shoes

727
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:36.480
both both Disney and Final Fantasy desire
of all the hate they get. So

728
00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:38.000
when they when they put it together, like it's just and I am.

729
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.559
I am someone that loves both of
those things, but I get it,

730
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.400
Like, come on. It was
funny when we were in We were in

731
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:50.280
Disney for a Star Wars Jedi trap
at some point, and all these sad

732
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:52.679
fucking game journalists were going about being
like, does anyone get any Sora pins?

733
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:58.480
Is there any Sora merch in the
park here? Like I did get

734
00:50:58.480 --> 00:51:07.199
a Kingdom Heart's pin last time was
a Disney Sora's face is fucked up that

735
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.239
that brings in a significant factor.
Though there's merch of Sora at a Disney

736
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:19.840
park, it probably is Sora.
It is fucking Cloud. It's absolutely Cloud.

737
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.960
I feel like like those Kingdom Heart
games sell okay, like but I

738
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:29.199
have that same pin there. I
can't get his face to focus and it's

739
00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.400
blurry sore, looks pretty good.
There is there is the factor that when

740
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.280
soda was got introduced into Smash Brothers, people lost their fucking minds. But

741
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:42.159
like, yeah, cover your face, Mike, I don't yeah, I

742
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:52.840
don't know. Well not like that
eyes, Like just just put your palm

743
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:59.519
behind the pin and then like come
a little bit closer. Cover your He's

744
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:05.159
gonna fun. Can destroy everything in
this office. Watch that's not It's okay,

745
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:09.199
all right, that's not working.
It's not working. It's not working,

746
00:52:10.239 --> 00:52:15.079
all right, tried. Yeah,
I could go either way on this

747
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:17.760
one. This one's hard for me. What's what's Jordan's final What was the

748
00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:22.840
arbiter's final decision here? Cloud?
I agree that it is like way in

749
00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:27.079
favor of Cloud. Okay, the
clouds, the Cloud pos It's the Colossum

750
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:36.280
Kingdom, alrightcurate. Next person on
the list, is Cloud Strife more popular

751
00:52:36.639 --> 00:52:43.719
than chun Lee? No? No, no, yeah, I think that

752
00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:49.079
well street Fighter Two's and the Bones
and Chunnley as Street Fighter, like yeah,

753
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:52.320
like I feel like I feel like
you see chun Lee and you're like,

754
00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:54.480
oh it's chun Lee. Yeah,
but do you see Cloud and say,

755
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:58.119
who the fuck is that? I
think I think people see Cloud and

756
00:52:58.159 --> 00:53:01.440
go off final Fantasy guy, what's
his name? That's a good point,

757
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:06.360
I don't, I think because people
will see like Chunley is referenced in like

758
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:13.119
rap songs because of how deep Street
Fighter is. NECKI Minage kind of is

759
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.519
the tie break and then that's like
NECKI Minaje ever referenced Clouds in a song

760
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:21.239
she has not. I feel like
I feel like Meghan's the Stallion would eventually

761
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:24.719
reference Cloud. Yeah, Clouds rhymes
with a lot. So you guys are

762
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:28.199
like, oh well, street Fighter
too was like a really popular thing.

763
00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:31.679
Did you hear about bom Fantasy seven
on the PlayStation one? Yeah, but

764
00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:36.440
in Final Fantasy seven on the PlayStation
one, Cloud doesn't look like this?

765
00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.960
That could be that? That was
this? Is anyone always looked like this?

766
00:53:40.719 --> 00:53:52.559
How much? How much Tony porn? Cloud porners think about why there's

767
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:55.880
a lot of stuff of Cloud in
his his his costume from Wall Street?

768
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:02.280
Actually okay, all right, uh
so where did we land Chunley? I

769
00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:07.440
think culturally Chunley. But maybe if
it's a gaming audience, maybe Cloud.

770
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:10.079
If it's like I'm if it's if
it's the culture. Maybe chun Ley,

771
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:15.239
I'm gonna formally object. Okay,
uh, Mike, this next one may

772
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:21.800
may be hard for you. He
is Cloud Strife more popular than Leon S.

773
00:54:21.920 --> 00:54:27.280
Kennedy. Oh he definitely, Yeah, Lee, that's not even the

774
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:34.280
most popular Resident Evil character. Really
he sure he is numbers real quick on

775
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:38.760
On an archive of our own,
which is a fanfic website which has some

776
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:44.599
spicy fan fix, there is fourteen, two hundred and fifty five things that

777
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.400
reference cloud Strife. Now I didn't
put in quotes, so it could be

778
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:52.320
cloud could be Strife, could be
cloud Strife. So but I did Chunley,

779
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:57.639
and she's at about five hundred.
Oh fire, only five hundred.

780
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.000
I would like to I would like
to break in my assessed trophy of Tarbo

781
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:06.280
Shwan. Famously, the most such
video game porn term last year was Chunnley

782
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:10.239
from Fortnite, So all, I
don't believe that. How do you know

783
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:14.119
that porn always sends that thing out
at the end of the year. It's

784
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:22.800
the only pr uh. Yeah.
I think Kennedy should be more recognizable.

785
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:30.480
I love him, but I think
like he's more recognizable than Chris just because

786
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.079
they keep changing how Chris looks in
every video game, but I think Joe

787
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.119
is even more popular. Even then, I don't think maybe resid evil character.

788
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:42.440
Oh yeah, Jill and her.
Yeah, Jill's probably more recognizable to

789
00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:46.599
most people. The fucking the fucking
Big Tet vampires more popular than like any

790
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:54.880
other resident evil character, Lady Jim
Atris. But yeah, this one pretty

791
00:55:55.159 --> 00:56:00.480
solidly in the chat pool. Also, yeah, Cloud's more popular. All

792
00:56:00.559 --> 00:56:02.800
right, uh a baby's handful more
folks. And then we're at the end

793
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.000
of the road. Here is cloud
strife more popular then Slippy toad kiss,

794
00:56:07.079 --> 00:56:14.239
Yes, look at that fucker.
Nobody like Slippy. Everybody's like Slippy?

795
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:17.920
Could you just can you just pull
together? I like Slippy because he feels

796
00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:22.559
like off brand. Kermit has gone
spoiled, and that's fun to me.

797
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:28.719
But I, oh yeah, Cloud's
moore Poper Listen, I love me any

798
00:56:28.760 --> 00:56:32.639
type of animated frog, Slippy,
Kermit, coroapi. Which one? Which

799
00:56:32.679 --> 00:56:37.400
one is slippy in the sn s
is the bit bet bet gambit? Which

800
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:42.000
one's he? I think it's the
first one bit a bit. Yeah that

801
00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.280
sounds right. That's that's very frog
adjacent. Okay, God playing some absolute

802
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:55.760
fucking ass video games, Cloud Strife
PS two Baby. The next character is

803
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:01.559
Slippy the Squatter Squidter No, no, Squiter, the spider, Squiter the

804
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:07.679
spider. I don't know what close
d K Country two or three was was

805
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:12.480
with this fucker. I think he's
three, but I don't know for three.

806
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:19.760
The Elephants two Okay, yeah,
yes, gods we're popular. I

807
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:22.400
do like this guy because he can
make platforms in the year out of web

808
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:30.719
so it was fun. Chat's pretty
close. Okay, never mind. Who

809
00:57:30.800 --> 00:57:34.840
is the most famous of the animal
Friends with docu conk Countries? The Ostridge.

810
00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:37.519
I think it's the Ostrich. Actually
I think you don't. I think

811
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:40.920
it's I think Ramby's right there.
Yeah, it's one or the other.

812
00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:44.719
I just when I think those animals, the one that pops my head first

813
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:46.400
is the ostrich. But I know
the first one you get is the rhinos.

814
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:50.000
So I bet a lot of people
think about right and guard the swordfish.

815
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.800
Oh, the swordfishes. Maybe,
yeah, that's probably the most popular

816
00:57:53.840 --> 00:58:00.039
swordfish probably. Yeah, yeah,
that'll be the next episode. Everybody.

817
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.079
Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna rank
rhinos and then you'll get, like Paul

818
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:09.320
Giamatti, rhino wrestler, rhino wrestler, rhino right up the top. Come

819
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:13.199
on, I think he might be
the most popular rhino. It got to

820
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:15.559
be. Yeah, all right,
Uh, this is a deep cut.

821
00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:22.760
I have no clue who this is. Greg Gates like a un Squadron character,

822
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:27.239
exactly like it. This is a
Squadron character. Good on me,

823
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:31.039
We'll done. That's some games mess
games mess Jeopardy shot when I was like,

824
00:58:31.119 --> 00:58:35.039
oh yeah, who who what was
the name of you? And Squadron

825
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:39.039
character perform? I think this is
just me with like an aviator hat.

826
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:46.639
Oh my god, you can you
just do a mustache? I keep I

827
00:58:46.760 --> 00:58:50.480
keep threatening it, and my friends
have like straight up Yoda at me.

828
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:58.840
Yeah yeah, I'm upcit about it
because I do want to fast. It's

829
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.760
fine. It girls very fast,
but they like they got upset and you

830
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:06.400
have a lot of hair. Mike, it's Greg Gates. Is this character's

831
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:09.920
name Greg called the name for a
video game character? All right? Next

832
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:16.239
one is very hyper specific. Is
cloud strife more popular than Jury's Feet?

833
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:30.320
No, man knows there's some detailed
feet. Mmmm. Yes, well,

834
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:32.519
hey, you know this is the
Internet. I'm just waiting to hear what

835
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:38.679
Jordan's gonna Jordan, what is it? Well, I like, personally like

836
00:59:42.800 --> 00:59:52.559
Jordan Jordan's men, Yeah, all
right, get them. That's how he

837
00:59:52.840 --> 01:00:01.320
pretty funny. Actually for audio listeners, Jordan's eyes are bugging out and he's

838
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:06.199
he's pantomiming going, oh the uga. Yeah, his tongue just rolled out

839
01:00:06.199 --> 01:00:13.360
of his face. Conclusive evidence,
feet one, feet one again undefeated.

840
01:00:13.679 --> 01:00:17.719
There we go, all right,
last four? Here is cloud strife more

841
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:25.119
popular than Bubbzy. People only know
what Bubbsy is because fucking gaming website is

842
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:29.599
continually bring it up as a joke, and then it's become part of the

843
01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:31.400
culture and people have been like,
oh, yeah, let's make let's make

844
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.000
another Bubsy game. And then it
got to the point where, like fucking

845
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:37.920
when when they did the quick click
for that Bubbsy retardans, they're like,

846
01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:45.360
oh, this has always been tangible
and always I am possibly go wrong.

847
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:52.400
I'm fairly sure that because of where
was Bubbsy Sega adjacent at all? It

848
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:57.639
was on both sixteen bit platforms,
not really Sega or Nintendo. Yeah,

849
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:00.360
but there's no PS two versions,
so you don't know. I think there

850
01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:05.760
was a Jaguar game probably bro.
I literally only know. I only knew

851
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.400
what Bobbsey wants to start with because
of a review from a YouTuber who is

852
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:12.599
now like a fart right psychopath who
could have guessed that's most of them.

853
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:16.280
But then it got brought up on
American podcasts. It never gets bringing up,

854
01:01:16.519 --> 01:01:20.360
bringing up Jesus Christs. It's late
as it's late for me, folks.

855
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:22.599
I'll see you later on. It
never gets brought up by UK people.

856
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:25.760
It never made it over here.
It's like, it's very much an

857
01:01:25.760 --> 01:01:30.199
American thing. But no, it's
not more popular than Cloud motherfucking Strife.

858
01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:34.280
Yeah, what is your guys?
What is the European equivalent? Is it

859
01:01:35.360 --> 01:01:38.440
game? Yeah, like the it
is the Great Guiana Sisters or something like

860
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:45.280
that. That's good. Yeah,
it's it's horfo bothers games like that.

861
01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:54.800
Oh zo oh yeah final three here
boys, it's Cloud Strife more popular than

862
01:01:54.880 --> 01:02:00.800
Kirby. No, okay, Jeff, Jeff is quali from this one.

863
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:07.719
Jeff has been surrounded Kirby. Your
kids had the biggest Kirby phase of anybody

864
01:02:07.880 --> 01:02:13.039
in the history of the world.
You were just shouted at about Kirby for

865
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.360
like two years there. I'm not
saying that. I immediately think Cloud is

866
01:02:17.400 --> 01:02:20.599
we're popular. I just don't think
we can trust That would be wrong.

867
01:02:21.079 --> 01:02:25.880
Yes, I think I think genuinely
Karby's top ten like so, Yeah,

868
01:02:25.880 --> 01:02:32.440
I think Carby wins super Smash brother
Well, Cloud is too start time we've

869
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:37.400
used the Smash Brothers argument. Slash
Brother's this massive. How much has the

870
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:44.679
best selling Kirby game sold? Does
more than was their Cloud Strafe balls outside

871
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:50.519
of Target? Thank you? Final
Fantasy seven remakes sold about five million copies.

872
01:02:51.119 --> 01:02:53.360
Yeah, and the best selling Kirby
game is probably like at like four

873
01:02:53.480 --> 01:02:58.119
or five million, probably three or
four five. I think Kirby starts to

874
01:02:58.199 --> 01:03:02.840
enter the Pikachu argument, where Kirby
kind of transcending the games itself. Maybe.

875
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.760
I still he's still very game heavy
for me, He's not in a

876
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.679
whole lot of transmedien This one,
this one, I would put money on

877
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:15.360
you take it to the street,
and significantly more people are gonna know Kirby

878
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.519
than Cloud fucking STRIKEE. I think
I think you're probably right. I think

879
01:03:19.519 --> 01:03:22.280
you're probably right. I don't know
if it's like crazy, but you're probably

880
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.079
right. I think it's like eighty
twenty eighty time that's generous to I think

881
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:32.599
it's generous to Cloud. Okay,
okay? Is Cloud strife more popular than

882
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:42.280
Tifa? Lockhart a popular is an
interesting word choice. There now more people

883
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:45.599
know who Cloud is. I think
that people who like really know who Cloud

884
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:53.239
is. Definitely like Tifa a lot. God, never mind, you were

885
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:57.039
thinking of the statue, Mike gets
all right, we're all thinking of the

886
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.400
statue. I'm not gonna say that, not at all. All right,

887
01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:02.239
all right, Jordan, Jordan as
the arbiter. Where do you land here?

888
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:05.960
Do people know Cloud more? Yeah? People do know Cloud more.

889
01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:11.559
I think that. I think the
people rock with Tifa more for obvious reasons.

890
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:14.880
But yeah, I think I think
Cloud more. Well, Ben Starr

891
01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:16.639
hasn't dressed up as Cloud and he
has dressed up as Tifa, So what

892
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:26.280
does that? Yeah? Cloud?
They should I where should release Tifa's shoes?

893
01:04:26.599 --> 01:04:29.199
I can't believe they've not done that
yet. It's like a sneaker collab

894
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:31.440
with someone like that seems super obvious. Make a hundred pairs, make them

895
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:36.880
a million pounds, and they say
that some say that some actress stood in

896
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:40.039
them, and that would be gone
immediately. They'll be in my house.

897
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:45.159
Yeah, I okay, Yeah,
they should do a sneaker collab. They

898
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:53.000
should they should do more of that
gaming sneaker beautiful. Yeah, grub ugs

899
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:58.800
are back hard way. I got
to pay attention to the streets more all

900
01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:05.239
right, the you last character for
comparison's sake, Sean, please give me

901
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:13.119
that clip of attention to the streets
more mad. Just the streets are happening,

902
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:15.119
guys, that's the most. That
was the most Paul Walker ass Lion

903
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:21.639
read that has been on this part
sometime. Is Cloud strife more popular than

904
01:05:21.679 --> 01:05:30.960
this final video game character? And
that final video game character is no death

905
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:35.920
it off serves more cunt but Cloud
that is more than popular. Yeah,

906
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:40.840
Clouds were popular. Yeah, it's
very close. I mean it's not like

907
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:44.519
they put Seff and Smash first,
put Cloud first, Okay, and then

908
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:48.960
you got as a treat. I
was showing my partner a trailer for Rebirth

909
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:53.800
the other day and she saw seth
Roth and she doesn't know anything about Final

910
01:05:53.840 --> 01:05:56.519
Fantasy, but she was like,
he's cunting, and that was that.

911
01:05:56.679 --> 01:05:59.599
That's all you need to know.
Yeah, Like I will say, like

912
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:02.639
I feels like if you were talking
about the most popular like video game heroes

913
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:05.639
or villains of all time, you
get the sepher off sooner than you would

914
01:06:05.679 --> 01:06:11.920
get to Cloud and their respective lists. Yes, but still, all right,

915
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:16.239
gentlemen, well we've established you don't
have to make me do Megan Man,

916
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:21.159
I'm happy. I was really worried
about that real quick. So after

917
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:27.639
going through all of that, would
Cloud be in the top ten of video

918
01:06:27.719 --> 01:06:31.480
game characters like most recognizable? No? Ten? No, it's like,

919
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:33.719
well, how about I mean,
top twenty. I'm not even sure about

920
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.760
top twenty twenty. I think he's
got a good shot. Yeah, he's

921
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:42.320
got a shot. I mean Spartvik
comes on to just how many Nintendo characters

922
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:45.280
that can get in there first?
Just how many Mario characters get to get

923
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:47.760
in there first? Right, that's
where if it's one per franchise, if

924
01:06:47.800 --> 01:06:51.719
it's the main character franchise, he
might make it into the top ten even

925
01:06:53.079 --> 01:06:56.360
But if you like, no,
we're just talking about recognizable video game characters.

926
01:06:56.679 --> 01:07:00.559
What about this? Is Cloud Strife
the most popular and reckonizable Final Fantasy

927
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:05.800
character? Yes? Yes, okay, maybe even like j RPG, probably

928
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:11.400
like the most popular Pokemon Pokemon clears. Okay, if we're not counting Pokemon,

929
01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:14.000
sure, yeah, that's a good
point. Okay, well, you

930
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.360
know we should because it is a
but that's the thing, Like, it's

931
01:07:17.400 --> 01:07:20.559
so funny because the replies to my
tweet people were like fucking obviously and other

932
01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:24.719
people were like absolutely no chance.
So there was like a like a Lettus

933
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:27.159
test that it does in your heart. You're like, oh, well,

934
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:30.280
obviously it's one of like the one
of the iconic characters. But then you

935
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:32.079
go through the audio crew, you
go through all the Pokemon that would make

936
01:07:32.119 --> 01:07:35.039
it before Cloud, you go through
everyone else. It's like, all right,

937
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:40.800
it is hard for because like I
was there when Like Fantasy it was

938
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:47.679
the biggest deal ever and like all
anyone cared about was Cloud and looming over

939
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:54.639
Final Fantasy for a long time.
Well, folks, thank you for joining

940
01:07:54.719 --> 01:07:58.639
us on this week's hot topic of
whether or not Cloud is more popular than

941
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.599
X video game character. And thank
you to our special guest and the inspiration

942
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:06.360
for the hot topic, Jordan Midler. Once again, Jordan, where can

943
01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:11.440
folks find you on the internet?
You can find me at Jordan Middler on

944
01:08:11.679 --> 01:08:15.319
Twitter. And then for all your
gaming news is VGC. VGC The Video

945
01:08:15.359 --> 01:08:19.520
Game Podcast comes out every Thursday.
Last week we had the Big Ben start

946
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:25.720
on talking all things Final Fantasy eight
if that's your vibe, and you can

947
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:28.840
also find me stock in the halls
of this website. Occasionally when Jeff doesn't

948
01:08:28.880 --> 01:08:30.800
have a guest, it's like,
oh, for fuck, it's like forty

949
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:32.560
five minutes to go. Better get
me on the morning. Mass should be

950
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.479
done with work by now, let's
go. Yeah. Yeah, I mean

951
01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:39.600
I literally don't work. I don't
work on a Monday, so it's it's

952
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.479
time to party. Yeah. I'm
glad that I came on on a night

953
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:46.399
where there was just surreptitiously ridiculously big
gaming news happening. That was good fun.

954
01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:49.199
But thank you for having me,
boys, I appreciate it a lot.

955
01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.920
I appreciate exactly. Get we got
to get you on a BombCast proper.

956
01:08:54.359 --> 01:08:58.319
Oh sure, I could fucking talk
for Scotland and those podcasts go on,

957
01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:01.439
they go on, We do like
forty five minutes, and I'm like,

958
01:09:01.560 --> 01:09:04.399
fuck me, I'm done with that
ship. I'm done sane words like

959
01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.520
you look back at some of those
old shows and those guys would go for

960
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:10.600
like four and a half hours.
It's like, don't you guys a fucking

961
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:14.800
jobs don't have places to be I
used to, you know, it's someone

962
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:16.680
that used to produce those podcasts.
When we're all in person in the stew

963
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:24.399
I was like, man, my
butt really hurts. The sweat one must

964
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:28.359
have been fucking like solid against your
deck, Like how did you set from

965
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:34.680
that long? Like said Dick.
Well, folks, the most cunty uh

966
01:09:35.439 --> 01:09:40.920
person on the BombCast Jordan Midler.
Everyone, we'll see the one. We'll

967
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:44.680
see you on Tuesdays. I have
a word. Is cunt not that bad?

968
01:09:44.720 --> 01:09:46.399
If you're Scottish? I would I
would say cunt to my maw.

969
01:09:46.479 --> 01:09:48.760
I don't really care. It's like
I feel like, yeah, I feel

970
01:09:48.800 --> 01:09:50.319
like it used to be a real
bad word. And I don't know if

971
01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:55.720
I'm just hanging around too many Europeans. That's just that's just Aneican's like the

972
01:09:56.439 --> 01:10:00.800
listen in America. You can never
call a person that, But if you

973
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:02.159
just use it in a fun way, or you say serv and cunt,

974
01:10:02.239 --> 01:10:06.199
you're gonna be fine. Well it
loves that speaking about the sea word.

975
01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:11.399
We will see you next Tuesday.
Mike, answer the question cloud or Mega

976
01:10:11.479 --> 01:10:15.479
Man? Fuck you? I wore
Bega Man today and yesterday. You think

977
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.760
I can actually answer that? See
you next Tuesday for another episode. Of

978
01:10:18.800 --> 01:10:21.159
the podcast. I but Jada Choa. He has been Jeff Grubb, he's

979
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:25.760
been Mike Manata, he's been Jordan
Midler, and you have been beautiful.

980
01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:29.119
Make sure to just serve it,
serve it, and I'm not going to

981
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:31.039
say the word anymore because i feel
like I've reached my quota for the day.

982
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:34.479
People are mad about to see you
later.