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Now. I know what your reporting. I got a strain of going

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on here. Something just killing my
dog. Something killed your dog, my

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dog. We're flying to or over
the trade. I don't know how it

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did it, okay, dam And
I'm really confused. Also, I thought

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my dog coming over the fence,
and they would have did when you hit

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the growler. I entertaining cards And
although I thought it was my dog coming

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over the fen what are you putting? We gotta some one or something crawling

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around out here. You see what
it was? Dan? It up.

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I'm out here looking through the window
now and I don't see anything. I

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don't want to go outside. He's
a point, you body, Carol deal,

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Hello, get somebody out here.
What's point on the outare? That's

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thought of a bitch about sixty four
nine? I don't know he seem the

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outtare. Yeah, I'm looking right
here, everybody. This is Less Strong.

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Yes, yes, I know,
AKA surviving and you're listening to Brian

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saspot Otison. He guys, welcome
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for clicking play. It is Wednesday. I hope you guys are having agreed

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week. You have an amazing guest
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I want to start time fighting him. If you've had an encounter and

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As I said, we've got a
great guest lined up. We've got Angela

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here from Indiana, and Angela is
here to share her multiple experiences and encounters

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with Sasquatch, and then she shares
some other very interesting things that have happened

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to her over the course of her
life, including seeing something that I don't

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even know how to describe it,
but I'll let Angela get into all of

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that in just a second. If
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make a couple of quick announcements about
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actually be at the East Tennessee Para
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twenty ninth. We'll be at the
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the twentieth, and of course we'll
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July twenty second. If you're in
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of those events are wonderful and I
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us there. We always enjoy meeting
everybody in person. But enough of that.

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I know you guys are here for
the Sasquatch Encounter, so I'm gonna

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stop talking. You gotta sit back, relax and enjoy the Showy Fook's over,

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welcome our guests to the show.
It is Angela from India and welcome

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to the show. Angela, Thank
you. I'm so glad to have you

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here. So I know you're here
to talk about all kinds of things.

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But let's start with the bigfoot thing. Was it something that happened to you

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that got you interested in the subject, or was it something you were always

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interested in before you had any type
of encounter. It actually happened when I

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was a little girl, the first
time I saw one in person, very

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close, and I didn't give it
much thought before that. I mean,

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I did live at the time,
you know, in Oregon, you know,

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near the coast, and there's a
lot of different types of activity in

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that area, but the bigfoot in
particular was not on my radar. In

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fact, from a very young age, I've had lots of different experiences.

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So my closest comparison to what my
initial thought of this, what this was

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was a shadow person. But when
I actually realized what it was, then

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I knew this is you know,
this is a bigfoot and they're real.

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And I was probably about seven years
old when that happened, had launched itself

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and one walked upon me. So
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and potentially scary situation. So would
you mind taking me and the audience back

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to where you were, what you
were doing, and tell us what happened

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to you. Sure. So I
lived in Coos Bay, Oregon, and

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we took a little weekend trip over
to the Charleston Bay area to go clambing.

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And my parents have friends that lived
up seven Devil's Road from the bay.

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So when you go up that road, it's sort of the crest of

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a range of hills, and beyond
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the coast is this massive, I
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There's nothing out there for just miles
and miles. But they had this

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really great cabin that they built,
and they had ducks and rabbits and goats

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and all kinds of animals and things. So after we were done with the

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activities we did on the beach down
in the bay, you know, we

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went up to their house and we
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So, oh, I don't remember
what day it was, but I just

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we all we spent one whole day
outside, you know, playing with the

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animals and climbing trees, and they
had these king apple trees with these apples

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that were just the size of grapefruits. They were huge, and you know,

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we're doing all of that. So
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whole day that we spent playing outside, the family that we stayed with they

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had little boys, and I had
two brothers and then there was me.

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So if something had been observing us
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first time they saw a little girl. That was what was different. So

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that's what I think triggered the curiosity
of the big foot to come closer.

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And so that what happened was that
night we all had gone to bed.

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The boys had a second story sort
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in the guest room on the main
floor, so my window faced outside,

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and you know, at that ground
level normal height, the bed was pushed

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up against the wall right underneath the
window, so from my pillow to the

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window is probably about three feet.
And being you know, a recipient of

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all of these supernatural things all of
my life already, and I'm in a

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strange house with strange sounds and strange
people, you know, it's a little

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bit uncomfortable to sort of settle in
and go to sleep when you're a little

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kid, and I was just laying
there looking out the window, and I

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don't remember it being particularly dark or
particularly light. Maybe it was a full

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moon or a partial mood. It
seemed like I could see the guy,

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and I can see the trees and
the light through the trees and things like

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that. I was just sitting there
looking out the window, and the next

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thing I know, I see the
black just fill the window. And my

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initial reaction is, this is a
shadow person. That's something big and dark

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because is coming. It's not inside
the window, it's outside. So as

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I'm looking at it and this darkness
just fills the window, it literally feeled

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it all the way up except or
maybe the corners around the head. So

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it was quite large. And as
it got closer to the window, I

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started to features came out from the
darkness of the shape, and what I

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saw it it was really quite beautiful. Actually, it wasn't that terrifying.

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I thought there was something about it. I don't know. People talk about

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the feelings that you get, or
you know, the impression that they have

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emotionally, they sort of have a
feeling about them, and that's part of

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the experience, is what you're feeling
from these beings or these creatures. So

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when I saw the face, I
was a little shocked at first, and

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I was scared, But at the
same time, it wasn't a face like,

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you know, an angry face looking
down at me. It was actually

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like this, the little The face
was like when you'd see a cute puppy

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or a baby and you go,
ah, you know how cute that type.

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It was like that. So the
face had a wide, sort of

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flat nose. It was very dark. I could make out the ridge over

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the eyes, but it's like the
eyebrow ridge was raised, like she just

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had this look of surprise on her
face, and she was looking down at

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me like you would look at a
little baby or something. So that's the

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feeling I got from it, believe
it or not, was that it was

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more sort of delighted to see me, I think. And that's and I

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just I've thought about it all these
years, and someone suggested, well,

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maybe it was watching you all day
while you were out playing and wanted a

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closer look because the boy slept upstairs
and that for that night it was a

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guest room. The light had been
on, so maybe it was drawn to

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the fact that it knew somebody was
in that room this time, and maybe

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it was me, but she came
to see and I feel like it was

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a female, you know. I
just feel like this was a you know,

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a feminine energy that came to check
out the little girl. That's that

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just seemed like the whole thing was
that was it. And the thing,

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you know, before it actually stepped
up to the window. And this is

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what sort of triggered me also,
was that, you know, you hear

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the animals and stuff outside, but
at night they're quiet, they've all settled

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down and that sort of thing.
They were completely berserved just for a few

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seconds, and then they went silent, you know, And I was like,

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well, that's weird, you know, but I live in organ so

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I'm used to there. There could
be bears, there could be you know,

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all kinds of things out there.
So I wasn't really I didn't think

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that was anything, you know what
I'm saying. I just thought, well,

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that's there must be something out there
that scared the animals just real quick.

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But then after that, because I'm
looking, that's when the black filled

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the window. But that's what happened, and it was it was three feet

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from me, and she she just
stepped up put her face right to the

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glass and looked down in at me, got a really good look, and

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it was like she just took one
step and she just vanished. So,

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you know, it's it's it's strange
how they can just appear and disappear.

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I'm not saying she was there and
she disappeared. It's like she just took

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one step and she was gone.
So whether she went backwards and then just

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was too far from the window for
me to see, just like when she

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arrived, it was just this black
shape and I didn't actually see the face

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till she was really close to the
glass. So, well, let's talk

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a little bit about that face,
because it's rare that somebody gets that close

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to one of these things. Face
and the facial features have always fascinated me

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because that tends to, at least
in my mind, I do a lot

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of research about what these things could
possibly be. It's not something we necessarily

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talk about on the show a lot, because I frankly don't think we're at

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the point where we should even be
concerned with what they are. We are

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still trying to prove that they exist, and we'll get there eventually. But

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when you start looking into what they
might be. You know, some of

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the people have theories about Gigantopithecus.
Some people think they're Australia epiphysines, Dennis

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Ovans, all these different things.
The face means a lot. So you

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three feet away, can you describe
a I guess. Was the face more

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humanlike? Was it ape like?
You mentioned the nose, the broad nose.

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What about color? Was their hair
on the face? Can you give

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us some more as much description as
you can recall in details about the face

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that you saw. Sure, again, it was this black mass, and

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the details came out as she got
close to the glass, so I can

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make out where the eyes were and
the nose and the shape of everything.

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But it wasn't really clear, like
there was light shining because I didn't have

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the light on in my room and
the only light was from whatever the moon

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was. And she's obviously blocking the
windows, so the lights behind her just

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in the corners, and there's no
light coming from my side of the glass.

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So it matchin black on black and
trying to make out a shape from

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that. But I could. There's
a few photographs I've seen that are very

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similar, and it's more of the
human looking type. Face. I can't

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really describe the mouth very much because
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you know. But the nose was
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it was sort of a flatter,
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I saw a photograph were drawing that
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would say the eyes were more human
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weren't as as deeply set under the
brow line as some of those show like,

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you know, you just see all
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dark holes. It wasn't like that
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much more forward. So I can't
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around the sides or if they were
all black, because that again, it

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was just all sort of shadow on
top of shadow. Stay tuned for more

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sasquatch out right back after these messages. But when I saw that one picture,

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I would say, that's the face, but bring the eyes forward and

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the eyebrows up, and that's her. Did you have a fear or were

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you okay with this thing looking in
the window? Do you recall what was

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going through your mind? And I'm
curious did you tell anybody? Did you

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tell adults? About what you had
seen. The following day, I was,

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I was, I was scared when
the animals went off. That that

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got you know, that kind of
jolted me. But then they got real

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quiet again, I'm like, okay, and then that was fine. And

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then when I saw the shadow move, that's when you know, like I

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said, I've seen it so many
times when it was actual shadow person or

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some other kind of entity that I
sort of have. It's it's not a

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fear reaction. I mean, even
though I was little, I had seen

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so many things already. It's more
of an assessment. It's like I quickly

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go around my options, like,
all right, I'm in the bed.

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If I move, will it see
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You know what I'm saying. If
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the door, which I've done before, you know, my thought was it's

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outside, and I didn't think it
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to me. Again. The facial
features were very kind, you know that

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they were interested, and you know, as a child, you've seen lots

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of parents and other you know,
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oh, aren't you cute? Aren't
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mean, that's that's that's what I
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you know, bone deep fear didn't
hit. It just didn't. So and

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it probably wasn't there more than thirty
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a while, and it just stood
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stepped there and looked back. But
there wasn't a lot of like the mind

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speak stuff that we talked about,
you know, recently and stuff like that.

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There wasn't any really telepathic communication or
anything. Just the the interest and

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the curiosity, that's all it was. So I would just say it was

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just like she just stepped up,
got a really good look, was satisfied

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with what she saw, and stepped
back, and that was it. So

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possibly she knew if she'd stayed any
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and she didn't want to scare me. But she was there quite a while.

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I mean, it's it's a long
A few seconds is a long time

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when you're when you're having these experiences. I'm curious, did you tell anybody?

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How long did it take you to
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Yeah? The next morning, so
we're at breakfast and our hosts parents

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were making pancakes, and we were
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the boys started to talk about the
animals making the noise last night, you

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know, and they were kind of
ramping up to tell me that, you

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know, say it was a sasquatch
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their mom was shutting them down,
was saying, knock it off, We're

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not going to talk about it.
Basically shut up, you know. So

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she was trying to keep them from
scaring me. But I already knew.

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So when she had said that,
I just really felt like she confirmed without

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them having to say it, that
I saw what I saw. So well,

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that's not the only experience you've had
with these things? How long did

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it take you to have another encounter
or experience with a bigfoot? Pretty much

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all my life, as far as
as much time as I have spent out

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in the wilderness in nature and everything
else, I hadn't seen another one,

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believe it or not, until just
a few months ago, this last summer

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in June, I saw one.
Full body had to foot the whole thing.

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What would you take us back there
and tell us what you were doing?

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What happened here? Incident? And
I was so excited to see it,

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because after all of these decades,
to see another one is such an

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amazing thing to have happened. And
I had a job for the day about

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in Cincinnati, so I left home
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there's literally nobody out there driving except
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the time the sun started coming up
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I'm driving eastbound on the sixty four
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go through the Hoosier National Forest,
and there was a point there's a few

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places in the freeway where you've got
the lanes going one way, the lanes

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go in the other, but they
split apart and there's a stand of trees

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in the middle, so you can't
see the other lanes anymore. So I

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was going along a section of the
highway where there were trees on both sides

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and just my lanes. And as
the light is coming up and it's getting

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lighter and lighter, I can see
the colors of the trees, and even

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the darkest trees within the tree lines
are still green. So it was light

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enough to see, you know,
more than black in the shadows. The

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darkest trees were still green, and
as I was going around sort of a

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left curve in the freeway, something
big and black was just right there between

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the trees and the edge of the
freeway. And my first thought was the

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only thing that big and that dark
would be like a sign or something,

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you know, like the National Forest
signs or these great big brown things,

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right, And I just instantly thought, well, this is the wrong shape

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entirely. And as I locked onto
it and looked at it, it,

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I'm realizing what I'm seeing by that, and I already know because it's as

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high as the street sign. It's
really tall, it's very dark, darker

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than the dark green of the dark
trees, you know. And it's shaped

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like, you know, like an
upright humanoid, and it's really big.

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It's thick. It was really thick. And then, like I said,

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as I'm getting closer to it again, I'm thinking, okay, I know

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what I'm looking at by now.
And then there's nobody driving except me,

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like nobody, and it could,
i know, what, could hear me

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coming for like a mile, So
if it wanted to not be seen,

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it would have not have been seen. So that that's what's curious to me

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is why did it wait? Why
did it wait for me to get close

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enough to see it and then stand
there while I'm you know, assessing the

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situation. And then by the time
I thought, all right, you know,

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I know what I've got here,
it just took one step and then

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disappeared into the trees. But the
clearest look that I had at it because

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again I'm driving, you know,
so I didn't want it. I'm going

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to make sure it's not going to
cross the road in front of me,

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that it was going the other way, and it was. But I saw

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as I'm getting right up to it, that's how close I got before it

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stepped in. I saw the curve, I mean the top up at the

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head and if it was like the
back profile basically, so I saw the

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back of the head go down into
the shoulders and slope down the back and

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then around the rump and down the
back leg. So I saw the whole

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backside outline of it. And it
was so thick I didn't see light through

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the tummy part, like I couldn't
see anything from the front. And it's

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as it was moving into the trees, it was like one step and it

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was gone. So, but it
was. It was huge. I was

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right up close to it before it
stepped out. I know you were driving,

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but were you able to maybe estimate
possible height and weight on this thing?

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About how big it was? I
would say easily eight feet because at

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first, as you're driving and things
are coming into your view, like road

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signs are typically what eight nine feet
fall something like that, and that's how

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high it was to me, was
like a typical road sign. So I

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was thinking at least eight feet tall. Yeah, three four hundred pounds.

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It wasn't skinny, like I said,

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from the back to the I couldn't
even see the front, so it's not

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like it had a tapered belly.
It was really thick from front to back.

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That's the weirdest thing about these creatures
that the very first episode of this

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show ever was a roadside crossing incident
here in North Carolina, a couple of

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hours from where I live, up
at Meadock State Park, and this guy

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was driving to work. I think
it was two or from work, I

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don't remember at this point, and
he had a roadside crossing and it was

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the most very similar to exactly what
you just described, And it has always

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fascinated me that these are such elusive
creatures that you know, people go out

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and look for these things for four
or five, even six decades, like

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Peter Burne's been looking for these things
forever and never had any kind of an

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experience. And yet I joke about, you know, it seems like once

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or twice a month, I get
somebody telling me that they almost hit one

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of these things in a prius.
It just does not compute with me.

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It's it's the weirdest thing, and
I don't know what to make of it,

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but it's obvious, you know when
I've asked people. I think I

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asked doctor rush Jones when I had
him on the show, like what's up

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with these roadside crossings? And He's
like, it's just they're trying to get

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from one place to another, and
there's a lot of roads that they kind

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of cross to get wherever they're going. So, you know, I guess

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in some ways that sort of makes
sense to me. I mean, you

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obviously had the experience when you were
seven, and then you had this one

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just this past year. How did
you feel after that? Were you exhilarated,

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were you scared? Were you sort
of did you feel some validation of

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like, yeah, I saw this
thing when I was seven, and now

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I'm seeing it all these years later. What was your thought process right after

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you had this incident? That's exactly
it. It's so validating. It's one

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thing when you know something happens to
your little kid, you can take her

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to leave it. You know,
people take that with a grain of salt.

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It's just a campfire story. You
were a child, so the credibility

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really isn't there, unfortunately, But
for myself, having seen it as an

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adult as close as I was,
again, I mean, to me,

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it was it was just so validating. I know what I saw when I

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was a kid. I'm not doubting
that happened, you know what I'm saying.

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But now I've got two stories.
But for me, the most exciting

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thing is that, you know,
if this one thing exists, and I've

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seen it twice so I know it
does. You know, it's all of

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the other things. It puts that
into a whole different category of possibility.

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So I totally agree with you,
and I think that obviously. You know,

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I've said it so many times on
the show recently when we have these

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really out there stories like it happened
with Darryl Sims I had on recently,

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The Alien Hunter. I got so
many different people reaching out to me and

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saying, you know, this guy's
stories are completely out of whack. You

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know, this guy's crazy. All
these things can have happened, and I'm

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like, you know, look,
I can't say that right. Those were

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his experiences. Daryl talked about being
abducted by aliens multiple times as a child

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and even into adulthood, and he's
dealt was so many people who have had

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alien implants and abduction stories of their
own. And you know what, if

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Bigfoot exists, And I know for
you it's a You're not a believer,

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you're a knower, right, But
for someone someone like me who has not

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had that siding, I'm still fifty
fifty with some of this stuff. So

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but I agree with you that if
Bigfoot exists, then why is it so

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difficult to believe that these other things
can happen to people? And I know

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that Bigfoot is not the only thing
that happened to you. You mentioned it

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a little bit ago about some of
the things that happened earlier in your childhood.

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Would you mind taking me and the
audience back to what your first experiences

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were and talk about some of those
other things that have happened to you.

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Yeah, I certainly can. But
there are two other things that happened that

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now looking back, I realized we're
probably bigfoot related or even dog man related.

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And I just wanted to throw this
in there that I went to New

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Zealand for three months when I was
seventeen and did all of this outdoor survival

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stuff, and one of them was
a twenty four hour solo hike, and

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they took me out last, drove
me way out past everybody else, and

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left me at the end, out
in the middle of nowhere. And now

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I know what I was sleeping in
then I didn't, but I had found

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a little stand of, you know, three or four little trees, and

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it looked like there maybe had been
a flood or a bunch of water went

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through there at some point, so
all of this debris was stacked up behind

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these trees. It looked like perfect
teepee with an opening, and I was

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like, well, that's nice,
you know. So I got in there

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and I built my little fire right
outside the door, and I was good

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all night. So, you know, forward thirty years and I'm just like,

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oh my god, that was a
big foot house or bed or tent

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or something. I don't know if
they have big foot in New Zealand,

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but that I mean that I wasn't
in a river bed, you know what

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I mean. So I was like
in the forest. So it's not like

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water went through there. But that's
the only I mean, That's what I

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thought at the time was that's lucky. You know that this just happened to

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happen and it's a dry now and
I'm gonna I'm gonna spend the night in

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there. And I did that.
Looking back, and you know, talking

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about all these structures and things that
they make and nests they build and things

410
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:17.720
like that. I mean, I'd
like to know if anybody's heard any stories

411
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:22.480
from New Zealand, because oh no, I'm just glad whoever it belonged it

412
00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:25.960
didn't come back and all I was
in there. So there was that.

413
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:29.720
But again, you know, knowing
what you know now and looking back,

414
00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.240
and though when I was little,
I say, you know, I grew

415
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.079
up, you know, running around
in the woods chasing bunnies and eating berries,

416
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:37.039
and so I spent a lot of
time you know, out in the

417
00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.440
forest, in the woods, and
there would be times when things would just

418
00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:47.440
the tone or the feeling or the
air pressure would change. And I'm very

419
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:53.000
in tune to um my energy body
being pressed on, if that makes sense.

420
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:57.720
So when I get that feeling,
I know there's something around. It's

421
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:03.599
kind of like a magnetic push,
that makes sense. But there would be

422
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:04.759
times when I would be out there
and all of a sudden, I'd be

423
00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.880
like, I'm not alone, and
I'd get home as quick as I could.

424
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.400
I knew it was time to leave. But you know when you hear

425
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.839
everything goes silent, or your ears
start ringing, or you just get that

426
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:22.519
oppressive feeling that you are not supposed
to be in this place, get out.

427
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:26.079
You know, That's happened so many
times where I've just been out playing

428
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.519
and thought, okay, time to
go. You know. I never saw

429
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:33.200
anything, never heard anything, nothing
like that, But I did have those

430
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:38.319
moments where my security switch flipped for
no reason, and I knew it was

431
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:44.319
time to go. So but having
had all of those experiences as a child,

432
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:48.319
that's what sort of prepped that awareness, I think. But and my

433
00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:56.960
experiences go back to oh my goodness, my first actual sighting of a thing

434
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.400
that wasn't human once when I was
three, But prior to that, I

435
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:04.319
was seeing shadow people my first memory. I was eleven months old, so

436
00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.880
I remember back to them. But
when I was three, I was outside

437
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:12.039
in southern California. It was a
beautiful, clear blue sky, sunny day,

438
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.920
and I was under a tree in
the yard and I was looking at

439
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.640
how the light was playing through the
leaves on the ground. And you know

440
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.559
when the sun goes behind a cloud
and it kind of dims down and then

441
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.880
it comes out and it brightens up
again. It was that brightening up that

442
00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.000
I saw, but there was no
dimming down first. It was like a

443
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:33.400
bright day and then it got brighter, and I'm like, well that's weird.

444
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:38.480
So I go and I look up
out of the sky. Coming down

445
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:42.319
at me are these two enormous hands, and I can't see anything past the

446
00:30:42.400 --> 00:30:47.519
wrist, but they're made a white
gold light. They're really big, and

447
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:51.599
they're reaching down at me. So
I put my hands together and I reached

448
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.480
up and these giant hands closed over
my hands like a little hug, and

449
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.480
my whole hand was between the fingertip
of these big hands. Hofic. They

450
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.880
were and then they just went away. But that was the first time I

451
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.119
had I would say, a light
being sort of interaction. I mean,

452
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:12.440
we would call them angels, I
think, But now was it an angel?

453
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:18.119
I don't know. I just don't
know. We don't know. So

454
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:22.839
that was the first time I saw
something that was just completely different. Besides

455
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:27.480
the shadow thing he's around all the
time. Going from there. Oh my

456
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.839
goodness. There were some really big
things that happened when I was eight,

457
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:33.960
you know, seven, eight nine, things like that. When I was

458
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:38.680
eight, still in Oregon, we
had moved way out to this sort of

459
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:44.839
valley out along stock Slew or that
was in Coos Bay, but it was

460
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:47.640
I can't name it, think of
the name of the place now, but

461
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.119
it was just about thirty forty minutes
out of town. Weigh out some valley

462
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:59.680
stay tuned for more sasquat Chote.
Moving right back after these messages, and

463
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:02.640
there was a lot of UFO activity
out there. I know that now,

464
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:07.079
but I didn't know it then.
And having moved that far out, I

465
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.880
didn't get to see my best friend
very much because we used to be neighbors.

466
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:14.799
So her family finally allowed her to
come and spend the night at my

467
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:16.640
house, which is a big deal
because she has all kinds of anxiety and

468
00:32:17.279 --> 00:32:22.039
different things and doesn't like to be
away from home. So around about bedtime

469
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.680
when she freaked out and had a
total panic attack and we had to call

470
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.960
her parents to come all the way
out there to get her in the middle

471
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.000
of the night. They weren't real
happy, but she went home, and

472
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:35.519
you know, I didn't think much
of it because I knew it was possible.

473
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.079
But at the same time, because
of what happened right after that,

474
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:43.839
I'm wondering if she was triggered by
something to get her out, because they

475
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:47.480
were coming for me and they needed
me to be alone. So she left.

476
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:51.680
I went to bed. It was
probably ninety It wasn't very late.

477
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.480
I just got into bed, I
got comfortable, I rolled over. I

478
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:59.880
looked around as I always do to
assess the area before I go unconscious,

479
00:33:00.079 --> 00:33:02.799
you know, and there are all
these people standing around my bed, all

480
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.400
around all three sides, probably you
know, fifteen of these beings. And

481
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.640
there were two rows. So there
were these little ones that were three four

482
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.680
feet tall, and then behind them
were the five or so foot tall ones.

483
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:19.640
The little ones were shaped different.
They had the big heads and everything,

484
00:33:19.759 --> 00:33:22.400
but it seems like they had like
straps over their shoulders or something.

485
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:27.799
So I kind of, because of
where we lived, kind of equated that

486
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:32.039
to being farmers, especially because the
ones behind them were thinner and taller and

487
00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:37.480
they were very nurturing. I definitely
got a very loving, secure feeling from

488
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.160
them, so that to me was
like more feminine energy. So it's like

489
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:43.759
the next day, I told my
mom that all the farmers and their wives

490
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:45.720
were in my room, but they
were the grays, the taller ones,

491
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:52.119
and the shorter ones. So that
happened. I was wide awake and they

492
00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.680
were all there, and we had
a telepathic conversation and they told me all

493
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.880
kinds of things that I needed to
know about how to live my life.

494
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.519
It gave me lots of instructions on
what two and what not to do and

495
00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:06.039
things like that. When I was
nine, I had moved back down to

496
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:09.960
southern California with my dad, And
these are just I'm just very briefly going

497
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.360
across some of these things. But
I was at my grandmother's house and I

498
00:34:15.599 --> 00:34:21.960
had a half a dozen interactions with
a solid black entity in the house while

499
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:25.239
I was there alone all day long. That particular entity followed me for ten

500
00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:30.440
years. It stuck around a really
long time. I found out decades later

501
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.480
from my family that everybody saw it, but nobody told me so as a

502
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.679
child, as a nine year old
dealing with this entity by myself, it

503
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:44.440
was that was scary. It took
a lot for me to get through that.

504
00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.679
There was quite a lot of different
episodes that involved on the pastor of

505
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.519
the church and getting harmed, and
you know, I was hurt. I

506
00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:54.280
was physically harmed. Just a lot
of things happened with that particular one.

507
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:59.239
But I don't know, I'm not
sure where to keep going or not.

508
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:05.079
But just throughout my entire life,
there's always been one type of thing after

509
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.280
another, and it was just a
long chain of coping with. You know,

510
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.239
the thing just happens. You're just
in it and you're you're dealing with

511
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.239
it in the moment from whatever you
know, perspective you have and as a

512
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.639
child, that's not much. You
know, all I have to sort of

513
00:35:19.719 --> 00:35:22.519
back me up is my faith.
You know, things that I tried to,

514
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:24.280
you know, recite stuff from the
Bible to make them go away,

515
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.920
and things like sometimes it works,
sometimes it didn't, you know, stuff

516
00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:30.320
like that. But I was very
psychic. I could see a lot of

517
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.960
things. I could touch something and
get images. I have a lot of

518
00:35:35.000 --> 00:35:38.119
I guess spiritual messages that would come
through about people and I don't know,

519
00:35:38.159 --> 00:35:42.400
I guess mediumship, that's what it
would call it. There's the Claire this,

520
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:44.760
and the Claire that. I'm kind
of a Clare fill in the blank,

521
00:35:44.960 --> 00:35:47.119
you know, the clairvoyance, the
Cla Claire audience that all of the

522
00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:52.119
players. The thing is is that
I never asked for any of this because

523
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:55.480
my experience has started at such a
young age, and you know, being

524
00:35:55.559 --> 00:35:58.480
in the church, you know,
with my dad and stuff like that,

525
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.960
you immediately everything's evil, so you
kind of want to stay away from it,

526
00:36:02.000 --> 00:36:05.519
and you treat it like it's evil. So I definitely didn't dabble.

527
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.280
I didn't research, I didn't read
things. I didn't even want to look

528
00:36:08.320 --> 00:36:13.440
at scary movies because I didn't want
to have anything in my head that wasn't

529
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.440
already there, you know what I'm
saying. So if something happened, it's

530
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:20.280
not because I saw it somewhere else
and it manifested in my dream for instance,

531
00:36:21.159 --> 00:36:24.000
none of that. So it's just
something that has come after me my

532
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.840
whole life, and I'm wondering if
it's because I have these I don't know,

533
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.920
if it's like you just wired a
certain way. I'm just open to

534
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.360
it, and it's like they know, so they just come, you know,

535
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:38.480
and they just they just they never
stop. I don't know. You

536
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:44.480
just sort of go through life figuring
out what works and what doesn't and trying

537
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:49.920
to create boundaries and safe places and
things like that. So talking about it,

538
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.199
I can feel the anxiety. Let's
go back and talk a little bit

539
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:58.679
about if you're comfortable talking a little
bit about the dark entity, because that's

540
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.599
something I've got a little bit of
experience with myself. I sort of dealt

541
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:06.760
with that as a child. When
I was twelve thirteen, we lived in

542
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.760
a haunted house. I think there
was some demonic stuff that went on there

543
00:37:08.840 --> 00:37:12.039
before we moved in. I've talked
about it on the show before, so

544
00:37:12.119 --> 00:37:15.159
I'm not going to get into that, but I can understand as a child

545
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:19.559
dealing with that kind of stuff and
what that's like. As far as the

546
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:22.599
dark entity that was around for ten
years, can you talk a little bit

547
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:28.760
more about how that manifested, how
it first came into your life and you

548
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.679
don't have to go in any detail
obviously you're not comfortable with, but a

549
00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:35.519
little bit about what you were experiencing
and then how you ended up getting rid

550
00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:37.199
of that, because I think that
sort of an important thing that people are

551
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:42.280
going to want to know when they
hear this. Is ten years is a

552
00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:46.840
long time to deal with anything,
so obviously we were a little concerned about

553
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:50.800
how you got through that. So
if you wouldn't mind if you would talk

554
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:52.920
a little bit about that, I
would appreciate it, sure, absolutely,

555
00:37:53.280 --> 00:37:58.119
And I think it's important this particular
entity is because it kind of ties into

556
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:00.440
the other things that I've seen that
may or may not have been a sasquatch,

557
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:06.159
because it's so similar in I guess
texture. I don't know how else

558
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:09.599
to explain it. This thing was
completely solid black and you could not see

559
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.039
through it, and if it put
its hand out, you could see its

560
00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:15.199
hand, but if it put its
hand in front of its body, it

561
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.760
would just absorb and you wouldn't be
able to see the difference between the hand

562
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:22.679
and the body. It had no
facial features whatsoever around the entire form head

563
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:28.280
to toe. It had these little
curly tufts all around the edges, so

564
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.800
it was like an old fashioned kind
of tufty, furry teddy bear. It

565
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:35.960
had some kind of you know,
furriness all over. So that was the

566
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:38.639
only detail I could see. Was
any time it moved, the edges were

567
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:43.599
always those little tufts of fur sticking
out. Well, what had happened was

568
00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:50.079
I had two brothers, my little
stepbrother. My two uncles were just barely

569
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:52.360
older than we were, so they
were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen something like

570
00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:55.639
that. My brother was fourteen or
fifteen. I was the youngest, and

571
00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:59.800
then there was my little step brother. They had all gone up the road

572
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:00.960
to the guy's house up the street
that had a pool, and of course

573
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:05.599
I wasn't invited because, oh my
girl. So I was at home all

574
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:08.039
day by myself while my grandparents were
at work, and I thought I would

575
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.679
just help her out and just you
know, mop the floor and clean the

576
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:14.039
house and you know, do the
dishes and things like that. So I

577
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:16.559
was at the kitchen sink and I
saw it run past the kitchen window.

578
00:39:17.039 --> 00:39:21.440
And my brother, my oldest brother, is the tallest and he has dark

579
00:39:21.519 --> 00:39:23.000
curly hair, and I thought it
was him. So when I looked over

580
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.880
to the siding glass door. There
was nothing there. He never came out

581
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.000
the other side, you know.
And I went outside and I looked and

582
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:35.519
I called his name, and there
was just nobody there. The gate was

583
00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.280
still closed. There was no nowhere
for him to go that I couldn't have

584
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.960
seen. And I thought, well, that was kind of weird. But

585
00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.360
again, I've already seen so many
things that go hush won the corner of

586
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:46.559
your eye. But it was like
right in front of my face, right

587
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.119
there, and it was solid.
I thought it was the top of his

588
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:54.320
head, wasn't there. So a
little while later I go into the closet

589
00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:58.559
in the entry of the house and
there they have the vacuum system where you

590
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:00.400
just get the hose and plug it
into the wall. So the hose was

591
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:05.039
in there, and I opened the
door and this thing standing right in front

592
00:40:05.079 --> 00:40:08.239
of me inside the door, inside
the closet, face to face. I'm

593
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:12.800
like, with an inches nose to
nose with this thing, everything stopped.

594
00:40:13.360 --> 00:40:17.760
I guess I shaking just thinking about
it. It was in the closet and

595
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:22.039
it was pushing all of the hangars
from the dry cleaners were just a bunch

596
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.880
of empty hangars hang in there.
They were pushed up behind its shoulders and

597
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.119
it was there for maybe a couple
of seconds. Is by the time the

598
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.400
boom, you know, the adrenaline
hit me, it disappeared and all the

599
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:40.000
hangars come swinging down and imagine the
sound of that makes total horror movie moment.

600
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:45.360
Okay, I was terrified, and
at the same time, you know,

601
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:51.199
this is the closest anything has ever
gotten to me. And I've seen

602
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.679
a lot of things, but this
was in my face. It was blatant,

603
00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.639
It was game on, you know
what I'm saying. So I don't

604
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:00.719
know how I did it or where
I got the bravery, but I just

605
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.360
sort of buckled down into my faith, you know, at the time,

606
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.519
and just called on the protection of
everything that I know was supposed to be

607
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:13.000
true what they tell you in church. If you're this, this, and

608
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.039
this, then none of these things
can touch you. Right. So I'm

609
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:19.639
like, okay, we're gonna go
with that. So because it was outside

610
00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.119
and then now it's inside the house, I mean, that just took it

611
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:27.960
to a whole other level. And
it was clearly challenging me. That was

612
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.199
a threat obviously, and I'm not, again, just a little kid all

613
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:35.679
alone in this house. So I
go upstairs and I just think, Okay,

614
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:37.239
I'm just going to do the work
and act like this hasn't happened and

615
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.559
not give it any attention. I'm
not going to let it in my head.

616
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:43.440
I'm not going to think about it. I'm just gonna do what I'm

617
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:46.760
doing. So I was vacuuming upstairs
and I heard this bang, bang bang

618
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:53.639
in the laundry shoot, and I
opened the door, deciding not to be

619
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.880
fearful at all, because that's what
it wants. I stuck my head in,

620
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.559
going it's in there, because it
just banged on the wall inside.

621
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.639
Stuck my whole head in and looked
down and it was completely dark and black

622
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:08.280
in there, and I was like
m and I just shut the door and

623
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:13.119
kept on going. So when I
went downstairs and then down to the third

624
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:16.639
level. Down at the bottom of
the lower level stairs is a doorway to

625
00:42:16.760 --> 00:42:21.000
the laundry room and another master's suite, and that's where the laundry shoot would

626
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:24.639
come out. As I go down
the stairs and passed that doorway, it's

627
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:30.039
standing right inside the doorway. I
walked right past it and I turned around

628
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.800
and I faced it. I came
up on it like it had done to

629
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.079
me in the closet, and I
just went face to face with it,

630
00:42:37.480 --> 00:42:40.880
stood in front of it, and
I could see the laundry shoot door was

631
00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:45.599
open, and so the light had
to have gone through when I put my

632
00:42:45.679 --> 00:42:50.679
head in there, unless it opened
it and got out, you know what

633
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.440
I'm saying. So something happened.
It was either in there or whatever.

634
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.800
I would have seen the light or
had opened the door. Anyway, I'm

635
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.119
standing there face to face with it. And at this point is when the

636
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:07.039
paralysis hits and I'm frozen. I
cannot move, I can barely breathe.

637
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:13.800
And it's not my fear, it's
it's the sleep paralysis, paralysis. For

638
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:15.679
all you can do is move your
eyes. Everything feels like lead, You

639
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.199
feel like you weigh a thousand pounds, cannot move, you can barely inhale.

640
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.039
And the whole time I'm in my
head praying, I'm calling on all

641
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.360
these things. I'm telling it,
you can't be here, This isn't right.

642
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.559
You know. I belong to God, you know. And then I

643
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:37.079
thought, I belong to God,
and if you don't, you won't let

644
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:43.280
me touch you. You can't touch
me. And so with all of my

645
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:47.159
strength I lifted my fingers and it
was like they waited. Try lifting a

646
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.920
bowling ball with your fingertips from the
bowling from underneath like this, That's what

647
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.719
it felt like. They were so
heavy. I could barely move my hand,

648
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.599
but I was able to lift my
fingers up just enough to where if

649
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:04.760
I lifted my hand all the way
up, I would have touched it.

650
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.400
That's how close we were. And
just as I was about to touch it,

651
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:13.679
it disappeared. So that's what told
me, you know, it wouldn't

652
00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.599
let me touch it. It won't
let me put the light on it,

653
00:44:16.239 --> 00:44:20.760
you know what I'm saying. That's
how I processed that. I'm like,

654
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.000
okay, I'm going to be okay. This thing is afraid of me.

655
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:28.760
Just a few moments later, in
the room that was down there, it's

656
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.400
like a big recreation room. There's
a pool table with TV and couches and

657
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:35.559
all. So I was going to
vacuum down there, And just as I

658
00:44:35.719 --> 00:44:39.000
was stepping away from that into the
room and getting ready to do that,

659
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:45.000
there's one whole wall that faces the
backyard that's all sliding glass doors, like

660
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.800
I don't know, fifteen twenty feet
of glass, and there's a curtain across

661
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.239
the whole wall, and I see
this ripple go through the whole curtain like

662
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.519
somebody had run his hand down from
one end to the other on the curtain.

663
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:59.280
So the curtain goes and I'm following
that, and when I do,

664
00:44:59.480 --> 00:45:05.000
it appeared against the next wall behind
the pool table. The thing is,

665
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:07.559
every time I saw it, it
was always leaning on something. It was

666
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.599
leaning on the wall in the doorways, leaning on the wall behind the pool

667
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:14.719
table, it was leaning on the
hangars in the closet. Was always leaning

668
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:16.599
on something. And I'm not sure
what the significance of that was, unless

669
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:20.639
it was just being coffee, you
know, But that's what it was.

670
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.159
It was standing there, leaning up, and it had its arms crossed like

671
00:45:22.239 --> 00:45:25.199
this, because I could see the
outline in the elbow. So it's had

672
00:45:25.239 --> 00:45:29.119
its arms crossed, It's leaning up
against the wall, just standing there.

673
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.400
And I just stood there and it
stood there quite a while, and so

674
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.000
I finally said something, you know, I said, what do you want?

675
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.079
You know, I said, you're
wasting my time and just stand there

676
00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:42.840
and say nothing. I said,
tell me what you want. Get that

677
00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:45.440
out of my house, you know, that type of thing. So and

678
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.079
again that thing, no reaction,
nothing, So then I started to recite

679
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.599
the Lord's Prayer, which I had
never memorized. I don't know where it

680
00:45:52.679 --> 00:45:57.639
came from, but it all came
out, and it stood there and listened

681
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.639
to the whole thing, did nothing. And then I hit John three sixteen

682
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.599
and I said as soon as I
said, for God, so love the

683
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:07.039
world. As soon as I said
God, it disappeared. It was just

684
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.840
like flipping a light, just completely
gone boom that quick. So there's no

685
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:15.199
like slow fade or anything like that. It's just gone. So that's kind

686
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:19.599
of I mean. More happened later
on that night with my brother. It

687
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:21.719
was standing right next to my head. I was laying on the floor in

688
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:23.840
its toes are practically in my ear. My brother was right next to me,

689
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:27.239
and I was like, do you
see something? Do you see something

690
00:46:27.320 --> 00:46:30.719
standing next to my head? And
he got completely freaked out, started crying,

691
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:32.800
was screaming at me, shut up, that's not funny. He was

692
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.760
crying. So I think he had
already had some kind of interaction with something

693
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.800
in that house, possibly this thing, and me acknowledging it and making it

694
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.599
real for him was too much because
he completely crashed over that. But yeah,

695
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:50.320
that's a lot, but that was
all in one day. That was

696
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.559
the same day. But here's the
good part. When a lot of these

697
00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:58.599
really negative things come after me,
there's always something good that follows right behind

698
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:00.760
that makes it okay, that remind
me I'm protected and it was never alone.

699
00:47:00.800 --> 00:47:05.320
I'm doing a good job. Stay
tuned for more sasquatch out to seeing

700
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:15.039
right back after the East messages because
before that happened with my brother my grandparents

701
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.119
came home. I was supposed to
go up the road to get my brothers

702
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:22.519
from the poolhouse bring them home for
dinner. My parents had come back,

703
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.920
so everybody was there. But as
I was going up the road, it

704
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:29.119
was getting dark, and I was
scared to go outside. When as it

705
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:30.440
was getting dark, because I knew
that thing was going to come with man

706
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:32.840
knew it would follow me out of
the house because it had been outside,

707
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.840
it had come in. I knew
it was going to go out again with

708
00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.000
me, especially by myself, away
from everybody, and it did. And

709
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:44.280
as I'm going up the road,
I can see it moving along behind bushes,

710
00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:46.000
behind the windows, through windows of
cars that are parked, you know,

711
00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.719
things like that. So I can
see it moving behind things, and

712
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:52.519
it would go back and forth,
you know, on both sides of the

713
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.320
road, all the way up.
And then when I got to the house,

714
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.360
until my brothers is time to come, of course they're not going to

715
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:00.039
come right that minute. And I
didn't want to get in trouble and I

716
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.960
didn't want to stay outward to get
darker, so I went back by myself,

717
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.480
and that was even scarier because this
road is so steep. I mean,

718
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:12.320
think of San Francisco steep. Okay, it was Ranchi Palace Burda is

719
00:48:12.360 --> 00:48:15.719
California, up in the hills,
and I could save the name of the

720
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:19.039
street, but because of the privacy
of the people that have that house now,

721
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.199
I won't. There's been a lot
that happened there and it's an infamous

722
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:27.119
house. At this point, as
I was walking down the hill, it's

723
00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:30.039
one of those things where you have
to really concentrate on going slow because you

724
00:48:30.119 --> 00:48:32.239
can easily get to where you're going
too fast and you lose control and you'll

725
00:48:32.280 --> 00:48:36.320
fall. And that's how steep it
was, and that's what happened. Because

726
00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:37.840
I was panicking. I wasn't again. I wanted to get down the hill,

727
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.039
get in the house, the thing
was still with me, and I

728
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:45.239
started to walk too fast and my
feet were slapping too hard, and next

729
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:47.639
thing I know, I'm running and
I'm out of control and I'm falling forward

730
00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:52.440
and I am almost horizontal, thinking
how bad is this going to hurt?

731
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:59.480
When I faced plant on this sidewalk
and these two enormous hands, much like

732
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.280
the ones I saw come out of
the sky when I was three. They

733
00:49:01.360 --> 00:49:06.880
were huge. I could tell how
far the thumbs overcrossed across my back and

734
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.920
the hands overcrossed, you know,
across my front. So it picked me

735
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:15.920
up like this essentially, and full
body grabbed me around my torso lifted me

736
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:20.800
up into the air my feet were
easily three feet off the ground, and

737
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.239
then set me down at a complete
stop. And then the hands just were

738
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:28.599
gone. Oh my gosh, I
was so. I was so. I

739
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:30.199
don't there's not a word for it. I can't even pick a word to

740
00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:37.280
describe the feeling. But my initial
reaction was take that black thing. You

741
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:38.679
know what I think, because I
know you saw what picked me up,

742
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:42.599
So if you're going to mess with
me, you're messing with that too.

743
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:46.079
That's that's what I had. You
know what I'm saying, so that that

744
00:49:46.320 --> 00:49:52.039
was super exciting and a complete flip
from the whole entire day's you know,

745
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:57.519
feeling of just utter dread and all
of these things. And I even looked

746
00:49:57.519 --> 00:50:00.320
around. I was hoping because it's
dinner time, somebody he is at the

747
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.639
fitch and window and saw this happen. But there there were no lights and

748
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:07.800
the curtains are closed or whatever.
Nobody saw it. So there's that I

749
00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.880
can't breathe just telling this is so
oh my god. I can definitely tell

750
00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:15.559
the reaction that you're having going back
to that, and I know it's probably

751
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:19.039
not the easiest thing in the world. So that was one day that you

752
00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:22.480
dealt with this and you said this
thing even got physical with you. I

753
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:27.119
mean, what was a day to
day like. Was it only happening at

754
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.559
your grandparents house in that house or
did it follow you other places? Do

755
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:32.559
you think it was rooted and connected
to the house, or do you think

756
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.880
that it was something to do with
you talk a little bit about that and

757
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:39.719
give us a few more details about
some of the things that what a day

758
00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:45.360
to day struggle dealing with this thing
was. Here's what I think happened.

759
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.559
Now, one of my uncles was
heavy into the heavy metal and the dungeons

760
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:52.440
and dragons and the skulls and the
black posters and you know, all that

761
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.000
kind of stuff. I'm not saying
that's all evil. I'm just saying he

762
00:50:57.199 --> 00:51:00.760
was in a vibe. Okay.
There was a crawl space under the house.

763
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:02.119
The boys would get into that I
was not allowed in. It was

764
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:06.440
like their fort. So who knows
what was going on down there. If

765
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.320
you asked me, it was a
whole lot of stuff. But that's where

766
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:13.800
it came from. I know,
because before any of this happened. I've

767
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:16.360
been going to that house since I
was a baby. Okay. I was

768
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:21.440
terrified of the fireplace. And it
wasn't the fireplace, it was what was

769
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.480
under it, and I knew it. I felt this horrible, I want

770
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:29.239
to say stench. It wasn't a
smell, but it was a feeling,

771
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:31.960
and that I wouldn't even go in
the living room. I absolutely hated it.

772
00:51:32.400 --> 00:51:37.960
But it's always been there, and
I think my uncle had manifested something

773
00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:42.760
into that space through the things that
he was involved in. So when I

774
00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:45.239
came along, this bright and shiny
soul, you know, it's like a

775
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:51.480
tasty, little morsel, you know, So feeding time, it just latched

776
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.559
on and it followed us home.
It went home with us, And there

777
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:59.440
were lots of interactions at my house
with my dad's house. He had chased

778
00:51:59.559 --> 00:52:02.440
something of the house on several occasions
and actually shot at it. And I'm

779
00:52:02.440 --> 00:52:06.639
pretty sure it wasn't a person.
It was this thing. Yeah, I

780
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.519
saw it lots of times. I
can tell stories about that thing all day

781
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:14.880
long. But the most significant situation
with that going home was that when we

782
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.199
would go to church, I would
feel amazing when I was on the property

783
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:21.559
of the church, but the moment
our car drove across the sidewalk into the

784
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.760
street, I would get a massive
migraine. Who was like, this energy

785
00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:27.639
just hit me so hard. All
I could do is just go home and

786
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.800
be in the dark and just sit
there and just I was in tremendous,

787
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:34.800
horrible pain. And I was sitting
on the end of my bed and in

788
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:40.000
this state. Right after church,
and I see this big ball manifest in

789
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.280
the corner by the ceiling of my
room, and it's black and it has

790
00:52:44.320 --> 00:52:47.000
the curly curls all around the edges. And that's when I know it came

791
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.480
with us. Even though it was
a different form, obviously, it's the

792
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:55.239
same feeling of the presence of this
thing. You recognize it energetically, so

793
00:52:55.840 --> 00:53:00.400
I see it there. And then
the bed starts of vibrating, it starts

794
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:02.280
shaking, and then is slamming against
the wall, and I'm sitting on an

795
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:07.480
I can't move and I'm just taking
it, and it moves across the ceiling

796
00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:09.320
to the corner behind me where I
can't see you. Now it's behind me,

797
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:14.239
and the bed is banging against the
wall. Everything on the shelves start

798
00:53:14.320 --> 00:53:17.360
shaking, and then they shoot across
the ceiling pet the other wall and fall

799
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:23.519
down everything. And at some point
I was able to just broke free and

800
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.880
I was able to jump up and
run through the house, and I'm screaming,

801
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:30.519
there's an earthquake. There's an earthquake. And I go into the office

802
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:36.239
and my mom's on my stepmom she's
on the phone with my grandma, whose

803
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:39.480
house this came from, Okay,
And I'm screaming, there's an earthquake in

804
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:44.360
my room because that's I'm running through
the house. Nothing else is shaking,

805
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:46.559
and she's like, shut up,
I'm on the phone, and I'm like,

806
00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:50.199
then she goes, oh my god, you're kidding, and I'm like,

807
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.719
I thought she was talking to me, like she just realized what I

808
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.039
said, and I said no,
and she's like, shut up. You

809
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.159
know, oh my god, there's
an earthquake at your grandma's house and then

810
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:05.119
boom, it hits our house.
I was like, literally screaming, there's

811
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:09.679
an earthquake two minutes before it actually
happens. You know, that never registered.

812
00:54:10.480 --> 00:54:14.119
So I said, please, after
all of that, just come look

813
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:16.559
at my room because nothing else in
the house it's fine, and get to

814
00:54:16.679 --> 00:54:19.920
my room. It looks like a
tornado went through there. And she was

815
00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:23.199
so mad because she had given me
these beautiful dolls from all around the world

816
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:27.679
and they were just everywhere like they
were, you know, precious, and

817
00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:30.239
she thought I had done that.
And she's like, don't come out of

818
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:32.800
here till this is clean and shut
the door. And I'm like, oh

819
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.039
my god, no, I can't
even get out of the room where the

820
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:38.920
thing is. That the thing is
in here, and I'm not allowed to

821
00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:44.199
leave. And I have to touch
everything in that room that this thing through,

822
00:54:44.679 --> 00:54:47.800
that this thing touched right after it
touched it. I have to pick

823
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:51.519
it all up and put it back, and I was so afraid I put

824
00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.679
something on the shelf and turned around
and it would shoot it hit me before

825
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.480
I got the next thing, you
know what I mean. That didn't happen,

826
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:01.119
but that's the kind of intensity that
I was dealing with, tying back

827
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.800
into the thing. The visitors that
were in my room and that were standing

828
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:08.760
around my bed. That's the same
room, the same time, the same

829
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:13.119
period where all of these other things
happened, where I was waking up with

830
00:55:13.199 --> 00:55:16.000
these you know, hemorrhaging bloody noses, and I'd wake up chanting things,

831
00:55:16.280 --> 00:55:20.559
or I'd wake up and my pajamas
would be inside out or backwards or both.

832
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:22.880
You know, I would wake up
because I was being dropped and I

833
00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:25.239
thought I fell out of my bed, but instead of hitting the floor,

834
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:29.280
I was hitting the mattress, which
made no sense because I know I fell

835
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:32.320
and I'd hit the mattress and wake
up and then I'd be all, you

836
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:37.199
know, all messed up. So
that's when all that started. When I

837
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.239
was nine, after that black thing, you were dealing with this entity.

838
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:46.400
How did you finally break free from
this? Or have you? I guess

839
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:50.400
is a better question, have you? And how did that come to be,

840
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.280
and how did that come to pass? That particular one, I think,

841
00:55:53.639 --> 00:55:57.320
Okay, good, I forget the
question by the time I told all

842
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.880
the story. But tying back into
that, over the years, I've had

843
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:06.440
certain friends that saw it also,
so I mean, it wasn't just my

844
00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:08.880
family and just me. It was
other people that witnessed it with me also.

845
00:56:09.880 --> 00:56:13.480
I just never got the validation from
my own family until I was in

846
00:56:13.559 --> 00:56:15.000
my twenties that they had all seen
it as well. I thought I was

847
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:19.000
alone with it the whole time.
And when I'm telling them these things are

848
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:22.320
happening, they're acting like, oh, no, it's not happening. And

849
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:27.119
they saw it. How can they
do that? Oh that is so upsetting

850
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.639
to me that they left a child
alone with this thing when they knew it

851
00:56:30.719 --> 00:56:32.719
was real because they saw it too, they just said, no, it's

852
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:37.679
not so. How it dissipated,
and that's a good word, is that

853
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:44.400
over the years it took on smaller
and smaller forms, So it's almost as

854
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:50.559
if it was releasing all of this
negativity and confusion and darkness that it was

855
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:54.360
made of. I think from hanging
out with me, watching me and listening

856
00:56:54.440 --> 00:57:00.280
to me and learning from me that
it maybe learned about itself somehow and was

857
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:05.679
able to release some of this as
it went. And so it got physically

858
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:08.840
smaller and smaller and smaller, and
it was the size of maybe a really

859
00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:12.920
big cat or a small dog,
but it was shaped like a rat.

860
00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:15.840
This was when I was in high
school. I was probably fifteen or sixteen

861
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:19.920
to be a little older. I
had a friend over. We were sitting

862
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.480
on the couch watching TV. In
the hall is right there. You can

863
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:23.400
see all the way down the hall, and it's dark, you know,

864
00:57:23.440 --> 00:57:27.400
the doors are closed, lights are
out. It comes running up the hall,

865
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:30.360
gets up on its hind feet like
this, takes a good look at

866
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.599
us, and then darts back down
the hall. He screams like a little

867
00:57:32.599 --> 00:57:36.760
girl, levitates over the couch,
lands behind it. What is that,

868
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:38.960
you know? And I'm like,
well, it's the thing, you know,

869
00:57:39.639 --> 00:57:44.199
the thing that I've always told you
about. Right That's when I realized

870
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:47.719
he never believed me. I realized
then, after all, that he never

871
00:57:47.880 --> 00:57:52.440
believed me until he saw it for
himself. And that was that, and

872
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.079
I was like, wow, you
know, so we turned on the lights,

873
00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:58.039
we go down the hall. Now
a mouse can squeeze under some pretty

874
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:01.679
impossible spaces. Okay, but the
size of a big cat is not squeezing

875
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:06.079
under any door. All the doors
were closed. There's no refer it to

876
00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:08.280
have gone, and it just,
you know, down the hall was gone.

877
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.119
That's what I think what happened.
The last time I actually saw it,

878
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:15.039
it was like a bird. And
now even now when I see crows

879
00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:20.719
or ravens or anything like that,
only because I don't have the energetic recognition,

880
00:58:21.079 --> 00:58:22.599
I know it's not that. But
that one time I knew it was

881
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:28.360
that black bird. I had the
energetic recognition, and it flew away and

882
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:31.920
that was it. I think it
learned and released itself. That's an interesting

883
00:58:31.960 --> 00:58:36.400
theory. I've never really heard that
before. And for your sake, whatever

884
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.440
happened, I'm glad that it happened. I want to go back to the

885
00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:44.639
visitors in the room and the falling
and the nose bleeds and things like that,

886
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:47.400
looking back in retrospect, and maybe
you already know the answer to this,

887
00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:51.880
or maybe it's just something that you've
thought about. Do you think you

888
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:57.159
were having encounters with alien entities and
were you abducted? Do you have any

889
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.960
recollection or memory of any of those
events that happened to you. Yeah,

890
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:06.920
I have total conscious recall of every
interaction I've ever had. The ones I

891
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:10.119
don't remember, I can't even imagine. I don't even want to talk about

892
00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:14.559
what could be in there. But
no, every incident that I've had,

893
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:17.039
I have full conscious you know,
right as it's happening, right after it

894
00:59:17.119 --> 00:59:22.800
happened, before it happens, because
I can feel the energetic signature of them

895
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:25.280
arriving, you know, I mean
all of it. I remember everything.

896
00:59:27.079 --> 00:59:30.400
But yeah, that went on all
my life, so I didn't actually see

897
00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:36.079
them from that introduction when I got
my instructions until I was fifteen. I

898
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:42.000
had a chain of events within two
or three day period. That was my

899
00:59:42.119 --> 00:59:45.679
first on ship event, and I
was shown all kinds of stuff. But

900
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:51.000
that was actually that started off with
an ORB. And I could not have

901
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:52.320
told you what an ORB was,
you know what I'm saying. That was

902
00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.639
not on my radar either and never
seen one. But it was the same

903
00:59:55.719 --> 00:59:59.440
color as the hands. It was
that white, cold light. And in

904
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.280
my room I had a window on
one end of sliding glass door on the

905
01:00:01.360 --> 01:00:05.320
other and it came through the window. And of course, again it's not

906
01:00:05.400 --> 01:00:07.519
even eight thirty nine o'clock at night, I'm wide awake, just in my

907
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.320
room and I see the light.
Now, there's no cars that could put

908
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.199
headlights in that direction, so when
I see a light, I'm thinking the

909
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:19.280
neighbors doing something with a flashlight,
or it's something's outside my window. My

910
01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.719
brother's friends are messing around. Whatever
it is, I see the lights,

911
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:25.360
so I look and it's the size
of a grape route. It's absolutely huge,

912
01:00:25.760 --> 01:00:30.480
and it's just cruising through really slow
through my bedroom and I'm looking at

913
01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:32.159
it, and when it gets right
in front of me, it kind of

914
01:00:32.199 --> 01:00:37.559
goes really slow, not quite stopping. But it stayed there a lot longer

915
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:40.119
than it took to get through to
get there, and then to leave,

916
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:45.400
so it might check me out,
and then went out through the siding glass

917
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:49.280
door and was gone. And so
the whole time this is happening. Now

918
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:52.000
again, I'm much older, so
a lot has occurred. I'm in my

919
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:54.039
head the whole time, thinking,
who are you? What do you want?

920
01:00:54.400 --> 01:00:59.199
This is no tell me you're here. I acknowledge that I see you.

921
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:02.719
What is this about? Tell me
I need to know? And nothing

922
01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:08.280
I got absolutely nothing. And then
a moment later the whole ceiling of my

923
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:15.239
room disappeared, and I'm looking and
instead of my ceiling, I'm seeing the

924
01:01:15.480 --> 01:01:19.119
face of a massive white wolf,
Like she just put her face right through

925
01:01:19.199 --> 01:01:23.000
my ceiling and she's right there and
it's big as the whole room. And

926
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:27.239
that's just the craziest thing, because
it's like this full blown, three D

927
01:01:27.480 --> 01:01:32.840
live vision and it wasn't like a
static image of a wolf. Her eyes

928
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.840
are removing, she's looking at me, her pupils are changing. The fur

929
01:01:37.159 --> 01:01:39.239
is like the wind is on the
fur. You know what I'm saying.

930
01:01:39.559 --> 01:01:44.360
Her ear twitches, I mean,
it's alive, and the same thing.

931
01:01:44.639 --> 01:01:47.440
I'm like, who are you?
Why are you here? You know,

932
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:51.920
I'm thinking all of these things.
I don't want to speak out loud.

933
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.039
I don't want to move, I
don't want to do anything that's going to

934
01:01:54.199 --> 01:02:00.760
stop the experience, because sometimes if
you do anything shuts down, so it's

935
01:02:00.800 --> 01:02:05.480
all telepathic. I'm thinking all of
these wonderful thoughts, you know, and

936
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:07.320
I got nothing. She just took
a good look at me and then poof,

937
01:02:07.960 --> 01:02:12.039
just like flipping a switch, just
gone, like she was never there.

938
01:02:13.199 --> 01:02:21.079
Stay tuned for more Sasquatch outsing right
back after these messages, and then

939
01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:22.920
after that I had my first out
of body experience, and then I was

940
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:27.480
on the ship, the wolves were
there again and the whole shebang. So

941
01:02:28.360 --> 01:02:30.800
yeah, the on ship thing was
interesting because that was what I would consider

942
01:02:31.239 --> 01:02:35.400
happening in a dream state like and
I could easily say, okay, well

943
01:02:35.480 --> 01:02:38.239
that was a dream. However,
the information I was given, the things

944
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:43.159
I was shown, and then decades
later finding out that the characters that were

945
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:50.119
there are actually identifiable and it was
aw his two sons and their sister,

946
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.079
So they were on a knock three
years ago. I couldn't have told you

947
01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:59.239
what that meant. But some things
happened in twenty twenty, pretty heavy all

948
01:02:59.320 --> 01:03:05.360
year long. That forced me to
finally research and go ahead and read things

949
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.519
and look stuff up and try to
identify some of these major touch points throughout

950
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:13.039
my experiences. And that's kind of
what brought me to start talking about it.

951
01:03:13.679 --> 01:03:15.880
So here's the question that always comes
up, at least in my mind

952
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:22.000
when I talk to people who have
had multiple experiences with different I guess phenomenon

953
01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:25.400
would be the word, or,
for lack of a better term, phenomenon.

954
01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:30.880
I know, at least with alien
contact. I know some people don't

955
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:35.280
like the word abductees. Most people
like to be called contacts, however you

956
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:39.639
phrase it. But obviously with the
sasquatch, this dark entity, and the

957
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:47.119
mediumship and now the abductee contact situation, with these entities, I think the

958
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:52.159
thing for me always comes up is
why why you? Because a lot of

959
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:57.280
people go through life and they never
have any experience at all. Right,

960
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:00.960
And when I talk about the few
experiences i'ved and I used to say,

961
01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:02.559
you know, when I first started
the show and people would come on and

962
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:09.480
have multiple experiences with different things,
people automatically the skeptical hairs go up,

963
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:12.880
the spity sense goes up and says, there's no way that somebody can have

964
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.880
all of this in their life.
And there was parts of me that was

965
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.400
that person. And then I started
looking at my own life. I think

966
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:23.000
I've had an experience with a sasquatch
when I was twelve. We've heard things

967
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.159
and had experiences here on my property. As an adult, I lived in

968
01:04:26.199 --> 01:04:29.840
a haunted house that had dark entities. I was hearing things, voices,

969
01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:33.119
and then I've seen a UFO.
So I am one of those people who

970
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:38.800
have had these multiple experiences throughout life, and I can't tell you why.

971
01:04:39.159 --> 01:04:43.800
There's nothing in my history, in
my family and my extended family, even

972
01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:46.639
that I'm aware of, that would
predispose me to any of those things.

973
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:51.199
So I'll ask you in retrospect,
looking back, and maybe you know the

974
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:56.079
answers. I mean, maybe you're
way more enlightened than I am why these

975
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.039
things happen to you, or at
least your thoughts on why that is that

976
01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:02.599
you've had all these experiences, some
good and not so not so great.

977
01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:08.800
But why do you think you have
had these experiences? I think, after

978
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:14.719
hearing people's near death experiences that that's
possibly what happened. And I think it

979
01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:17.400
happened when I was born. There's
a couple other things I really want to

980
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:19.400
talk about, so I don't want
to spend it too much time on this,

981
01:05:19.599 --> 01:05:23.599
But I was born with the quarter
around my neck. It had been

982
01:05:23.719 --> 01:05:28.239
severely delayed because the doctor wasn't there
and the nurses literally were holding me in

983
01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:31.519
by the top of my head,
so they didn't know I was suffocating.

984
01:05:32.320 --> 01:05:34.880
They were just waiting for the doctor
to get there. They thought everything was

985
01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:40.800
fine, and then when I was
finally why was purple blue whatever not breathing

986
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:45.480
I was basically a was never confirmed
and I haven't asked my mother, but

987
01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.519
it's very possible I had an NDE
at Earth through that experience, and so

988
01:05:48.679 --> 01:05:53.280
maybe that is what left that door
wide open that I had to disconnect and

989
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:56.920
the reconnect, and when you do
that, you don't really reconnect the way

990
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:00.280
you were intended to the first time. And I think that's what it is.

991
01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:02.400
I think that's why we're able to
step back and forth between the realities

992
01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:08.000
because the anchor is no longer there. That's what. And there's a whole

993
01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:11.400
bunch of other stuff that's possible,
a lot of theories and things, But

994
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:15.559
as far as the black entity,
this is what I've been thinking of recently.

995
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:19.719
And I've only heard of one other
person that saw the same thing I

996
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:25.400
saw with the black shadow being,
you know, with the curing not wine.

997
01:06:25.679 --> 01:06:28.079
He said he saw the exact same
thing, but he had a big

998
01:06:28.159 --> 01:06:33.000
one and a little one. So
he always thought they were entities or some

999
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:38.719
kind of you know, spiritual interdimensional
type being, you know, think fairy

1000
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.440
world or something. I don't know, but a lot of people will say

1001
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:45.639
sasquatch are two. I don't know, but I don't think the thing that

1002
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:51.360
I saw was like that. I
think it was it was summoned or created,

1003
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:57.199
whereas he thought his were a being
from another dimension sort of thing,

1004
01:06:57.639 --> 01:07:00.519
but they were identical. So I've
had that kind of made things a little

1005
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:06.559
weird. So going from that to
the thing that I saw at the mim

1006
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:14.599
Amounds, that was definitely not a
Sasquatch. It was most definitely not human.

1007
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.039
It would you want to call it
an et? Was an interdimensional was?

1008
01:07:18.239 --> 01:07:21.440
I don't know, but I want
to tell you about that because I've

1009
01:07:21.519 --> 01:07:26.920
never really talked about it, and
it's something I don't talk about because this

1010
01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:32.000
is the one that's going to have
everybody go, Okay, no credibility,

1011
01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.719
just forget it. That's the stupidest
thing I've ever heard. But this is

1012
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:40.679
what happened. So it's interesting with
you know, a lot of times when

1013
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:44.079
things happen to me, I will
ignore ninety percent of what goes on.

1014
01:07:44.679 --> 01:07:47.800
But when there's a series of events
that are closely related or timing wise,

1015
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:51.079
they all happen in a cluster,
that's when I really kind of give it

1016
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:56.800
my attention, but I'll ignore most. So that day, going out to

1017
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:00.880
the Mima amounts. It's in Olympia, Washington, and time my mom had

1018
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:03.679
an office on Black Lake, which
is real close there. On the drives

1019
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:09.960
out there, some weird stuff happened
because, you know, the fawn jumped

1020
01:08:09.960 --> 01:08:12.960
out of the bushes and went boing
boing boing across the road in front of

1021
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:14.800
us. We're like, oh,
my gosh, how cute. And then

1022
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.760
of course you always want to wait
because this mom is somewhere and there's probably

1023
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.319
another one. Sure enough, bing
boing boing, here comes the second one.

1024
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:24.520
They're like, oh, that's so
amazing, and then boing boing boing

1025
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:28.000
the third one. At that point
we're like, hey, is it possible.

1026
01:08:28.600 --> 01:08:34.279
Yes, but a lot of little
things come in threes that aren't bonds,

1027
01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:38.279
so that's always in the back of
my mind. And then we couldn't

1028
01:08:38.359 --> 01:08:42.520
find the entrance to the park.
And again it's one of those things where

1029
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:46.079
there's a great big wooden sign with
a huge yellow arrow saying mine amounts.

1030
01:08:46.079 --> 01:08:49.159
Because it's like you know, a
national you know type of thing. It's

1031
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:54.199
they're they're clearly marked. We went
all the way to the heck end of

1032
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:58.640
the road and we never saw the
entrance to the park, so what happened.

1033
01:08:58.720 --> 01:09:02.119
We turned around, we came back
and then it's like right there and

1034
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:08.560
the signs are massive, So something
happened on the way to the anyway,

1035
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:12.960
we pull in and the way the
parking lot goes is sort of you just

1036
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:15.159
come in and then it's like the
trees kind of come together, and then

1037
01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.800
you go through there and then it
opens up into the parking lot. And

1038
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:23.800
as you're passing that tree section,
that's where the bathroom building is. So

1039
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:26.439
you drive in, there's the bathroom, you kind of pass some trees,

1040
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:29.880
and then it opens up to this
big parking lot and there's nobody out there.

1041
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:33.279
It's early in the morning, and
we're driving along to going to the

1042
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.760
far end of the parking lot to
get as close to the mountains as we

1043
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:40.600
can to park there instead of having
to walk all the way out there.

1044
01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:45.760
So we're driving across the back end
of the length of an actual parking space.

1045
01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.239
So what is that twenty feet maybe
twenty five feet, but the most

1046
01:09:48.279 --> 01:09:53.159
to the sidewalk. I don't know
where this person came from, but all

1047
01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:58.399
of a sudden, there's someone walking
down the sidewalk and there's no cars,

1048
01:09:58.479 --> 01:10:01.239
there's nobody there. I don't know
where. You can see. You can

1049
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.920
see far all around you. They
didn't come from anywhere. They were just

1050
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:13.399
there. And I'm looking and I'm
not thinking anything except something's not right because

1051
01:10:13.439 --> 01:10:19.720
it's extremely tall, it's impossibly thin, it's wearing clothes, and the clothes

1052
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:25.239
are so bright and so new.
You can see the fold lines, and

1053
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:30.159
it had then entire body was covered
in something. Okay, here's where it

1054
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:34.319
gets really weird. So the whole
time I'm looking at this person that's not

1055
01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:39.800
making sense. I have no fear. Again, I'm twenty something years old

1056
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.560
by now, I've seen it all. This is just another whatever. Let's

1057
01:10:43.560 --> 01:10:46.239
see what this is. Okay,
So I'm absorbing this. We're getting closer

1058
01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:49.039
because we're rolling in the car and
it's walking towards us, and there it

1059
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:54.000
is, so at the closest point, it's fifteen feet away. It's right

1060
01:10:54.039 --> 01:10:58.640
there. It has brand new,
bright white tennis shoes on. Okay,

1061
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:01.920
it has some kind of hosiery or
pantyhose that you can see through, so

1062
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:08.239
not tight, but actual pantyhose that
were black, but through the hose.

1063
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:13.159
If you were a sasquatch and you
okay again, I'm sorry if you were

1064
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:16.560
to pull something up your leg,
the fur would all turn backwards in clumps.

1065
01:11:16.640 --> 01:11:20.800
Don't you think That's what I was
seeing? So there was all these

1066
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:28.520
lumps of fur pulled up underneath these
hose. It has a long skirt just

1067
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:31.439
past the knee, but it's made
of sweatshirt materials, like a jersey or

1068
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:36.439
red. It was bright red and
had a matching hoodie. Underneath the hoodie.

1069
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:41.680
There was a big lump, and
it had one arm holding this lump

1070
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:45.399
inside the hoodie, so something was
in the hoodie that it was holding.

1071
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:51.079
It had its other hand. It
was grabbing the hoodie around its face,

1072
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:56.840
trying to cover as much of its
face as it could. It had glasses

1073
01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.520
on, but they didn't sit right
on the face, so I could see

1074
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:06.000
behind I'm the glasses and it had
the hoodie, and then there was underneath

1075
01:12:06.640 --> 01:12:11.199
there was like a scarf that was
kind of you know, because sometimes hoodies

1076
01:12:11.239 --> 01:12:15.159
only come so far. There was
a scarf wrapped around in there trying to

1077
01:12:15.239 --> 01:12:19.119
cover more. But I could see, you know, this whole area except

1078
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:21.880
for a hand, and the hoodie
was like trying to cover everything, but

1079
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.960
I could see the eyes, the
glasses, everything. It had fur on

1080
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:30.960
its face all the way up to
the rim of the eye. And as

1081
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:35.680
I was watching it pass and I'm
looking behind the glasses, I can see

1082
01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:40.920
the eye itself is entirely black.
And that's when it turns and looks at

1083
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:47.319
me. And then my bones literally
turned to jelly. That is when this

1084
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:54.560
fear hit me. And it wasn't
my fear. It was impressed upon me

1085
01:12:54.760 --> 01:13:00.560
in that moment, run or die. And I literally couldn't even move.

1086
01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.039
I mean, I couldn't feel.
My bones were gone, That's what it

1087
01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:09.119
felt. Likely Just everything in me
just went to liquid. And that wasn't

1088
01:13:09.239 --> 01:13:15.039
my decision to assess this thing and
become afraid of it. It looked at

1089
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:17.640
me and said run or die,
but without saying it. But that was

1090
01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:21.079
the impression that I got. And
as soon as it said that, and

1091
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:29.600
my physical body was completely affected by
this very intense necessity to survive, I

1092
01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:31.760
got a visual of what would happened
to me if I didn't get the heck

1093
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:38.840
out of there. Immediately, as
I was able to move, I was

1094
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:43.279
slapping down the locks on the doors
and the mine and the passenger side behind

1095
01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:45.239
me, I reached over and grabbed
the other one. I mean I was

1096
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.880
out of my seat, I was
slapping locks, I'm grabbing my mom's knee

1097
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:53.279
and I'm shoving her knee down on
the gas and a drive drive drive.

1098
01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.359
That was oh my god. I
didn't even finish talking about what it was

1099
01:13:57.399 --> 01:14:00.800
wearing. The hands were covered because
it had you know, in logging areas

1100
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:04.359
when you handling lumber and stuff like
that, they have these yellow, fuzzy

1101
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:08.279
gloves. I don't know if you've
ever seen them, but they're they're like

1102
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.720
a really thick felt or something.
It had those on, so that just

1103
01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:16.640
gets even weirder. So anyway,
that's what happened. And I don't know

1104
01:14:16.760 --> 01:14:23.199
what this thing was because to me, with the communication and the thin,

1105
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:28.279
the impossible thinness of the leg,
even with the leg and the fur,

1106
01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:32.039
it was still literally as round as
just the bone itself, if that makes

1107
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:35.479
any sense. That's how skinny it
was. Now, I know there are

1108
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:41.640
people that have conditions that can explain
a lot of these things, but that

1109
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:45.279
was not human. That absolutely was
not a human being. Yeah, I

1110
01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:49.439
mean that that was the second most
terrifying thing I think I've ever experienced,

1111
01:14:49.600 --> 01:14:56.600
was that moment that it impressed into
me run or die and I knew that

1112
01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.399
if I didn't think, if I
took too long to think about it,

1113
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:02.479
I was already That's the way it
felt. What was your mom's reaction when

1114
01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:06.079
all this clearly she saw the same
thing that you saw. What was her

1115
01:15:06.159 --> 01:15:10.840
reaction was what was going through her
mind? Did she have the same fear

1116
01:15:11.119 --> 01:15:15.000
or was it something completely a different
experience for her. I was slapping her

1117
01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:17.079
leg again, I was. I
was literally mashing her knee down to hit

1118
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:21.000
the gas, and she just turned
around and we left and we drove ably

1119
01:15:21.079 --> 01:15:27.640
thirty minutes in complete silence. Both
of us were completely just crying. We

1120
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:30.079
didn't say a word. We were
just crying and driving, and she finally

1121
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.600
pulled over and she said, what
the was that? I said, I

1122
01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:39.800
don't know. She says, okay, she said, you tell me what

1123
01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:42.560
you saw, and I will tell
you if that's what I saw. And

1124
01:15:42.680 --> 01:15:45.840
so I described everything like I described
to you, and she goes, that's

1125
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:48.760
what I saw. She goes,
what was that? I said, that's

1126
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:53.760
that's nothing from this world. That
that was definitely alien. I don't know

1127
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:58.199
why was it. Obviously it was
disguising itself. It failed because it was

1128
01:15:58.279 --> 01:16:01.479
wearing such weird stuff that it wouldn't
didn't. You know what I'm saying,

1129
01:16:01.560 --> 01:16:08.319
didn't work. It's very interesting,
obviously, but I've heard, well,

1130
01:16:08.439 --> 01:16:12.680
maybe not similar things, but something
very similar to that in some of the

1131
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:17.800
men in Black stories that you hear
when what appears to be some people are

1132
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:21.520
not human, there's some sort of
humanoid that shows up at people who have

1133
01:16:21.680 --> 01:16:27.399
seen UFOs and had experiences, and
it's something very similar. It's there's something

1134
01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:30.920
off, not as blatant as what
you just described, but it's clearly not

1135
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:34.399
human. There's something off about the
clothes, the fit, the way that

1136
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:40.880
there's just always something that's just not
quite right and you just can't put your

1137
01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:43.720
finger on it. Obviously, there
was a lot more in what you described.

1138
01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:46.279
I'm with you, I don't know
with that description. I don't know

1139
01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:50.520
what it could be other than something
that's clearly not human. So I don't

1140
01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:54.560
know. That's definitely a headscratcher.
You mentioned a couple of things earlier.

1141
01:16:54.600 --> 01:16:56.960
I don't know if we covered both
of the things that you wanted to talk

1142
01:16:57.000 --> 01:17:00.960
about outside of that, and we
were talking about We've talked about so much.

1143
01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:03.960
I don't want to leave anything on
the table. So was that one

1144
01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.399
of the other things that you wanted
to talk about, or was there another

1145
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.359
experience that you wanted to share with
us. Yeah, that was the main

1146
01:17:10.439 --> 01:17:12.720
thing, because it kind of ties
in. Like I said that, there's

1147
01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:16.159
just certain details that span all these
different experiences that are clearly not related.

1148
01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:21.600
The clearly three different, completely different
things, but there's still elements that cross

1149
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:26.880
over. But the other thing was
you know that the eye contact is such

1150
01:17:26.960 --> 01:17:30.720
an important detail because in all of
my experiences, when they have eye contact

1151
01:17:30.800 --> 01:17:35.920
with you, they have access,
they have a form of control, they

1152
01:17:36.039 --> 01:17:41.880
have options, things that they can
do against your will. Without the eye

1153
01:17:41.920 --> 01:17:45.720
contact that that it's not as strong. So when it turned and looked at

1154
01:17:45.800 --> 01:17:50.000
me, that was when the connection
was made and I felt the full force

1155
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:55.199
of this thing. It's the same
thing with et you know, like if

1156
01:17:55.840 --> 01:18:00.319
I'm face to face with one,
they will not they will they'll they won't

1157
01:18:00.359 --> 01:18:02.399
look directly at me. They'll be
like standing, I'll go over here and

1158
01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:08.000
they're looking past me, and if
I say something or I'm communicating with them,

1159
01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.760
they'll like turn their head towards me, but they won't look at me.

1160
01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.359
Because once they look at you,
you don't have your free will anymore.

1161
01:18:14.399 --> 01:18:17.199
It changes everything and they know that, you know what I'm saying.

1162
01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:21.760
So I've had interactions where I've had
the option of communicating without being controlled,

1163
01:18:21.800 --> 01:18:26.520
and which is amazing. But that
eye contact, when it looked at me,

1164
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:30.920
that's when the connection was made and
it was inside my everything, you

1165
01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:35.199
know what I'm saying, And that
is terrifying, terrifying. Ooh, I

1166
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.600
don't know. There was one other
thing, but it kind of goes into

1167
01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:42.119
something I saw on a tree that
scared me just as bad to think what

1168
01:18:42.439 --> 01:18:45.399
could have possibly done this to this
tree. But that's a whole other story.

1169
01:18:45.920 --> 01:18:49.800
Yeah, just to tie things in
nicely together with dog Man and whatever

1170
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:54.279
happened to that tree. I had
a farm in Kentucky for a decade,

1171
01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:58.680
just two miles from you know,
Barkley, Kentucky Lake. Every summer we

1172
01:18:59.000 --> 01:19:01.800
keep our boat at Barkley Lake and
we so we're down there all the time,

1173
01:19:01.960 --> 01:19:04.479
and we had you know, I
had the farm and all of that.

1174
01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:06.560
So I spent a lot of time
in that area. And I know

1175
01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:10.439
there's a lot of stories about LBL
which is land between the lakes. It's

1176
01:19:10.520 --> 01:19:14.479
the space between Kentucky and Barkley Lake. So I've got all kinds of stuff

1177
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:16.279
going on over there, but i'd
have photographs. I actually sent them to

1178
01:19:16.439 --> 01:19:19.920
you before this in case you wanted
to take a look or we'd ended up

1179
01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:23.000
talking about it. But I think
we're kind of out of time. So

1180
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:27.359
that was one thing was that I
think once you, like I said,

1181
01:19:27.439 --> 01:19:30.840
you see these things face to face, if this is possible, and that's

1182
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:35.479
possible, then there's a whole list
of things that I will never tell somebody.

1183
01:19:35.520 --> 01:19:40.399
I don't believe you because whatever it
is you thought you saw, you

1184
01:19:40.520 --> 01:19:45.760
know, I can fully embrace the
idea that that actually happened, because believing

1185
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.760
I've been on the receiving end of
so much of it that why why would

1186
01:19:48.760 --> 01:19:55.439
I ever tell someone you know,
that's I can't. I can't. I

1187
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:59.319
agree as long as something is possible, I leave my mind open to that.

1188
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.760
I say it all the time.
Everybody's experiences are their experiences. I

1189
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:06.560
created this show and all of the
shows that I do to give people a

1190
01:20:06.640 --> 01:20:11.119
space to come and talk about those
things and not feel crazy, and not

1191
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:15.399
be judged, and just get it
out there in the zeitgeist. Because sometimes

1192
01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.960
I'm the only person that people have
ever told their story too. I think

1193
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:23.479
it's very important for other people in
the audience to hear that because I've said

1194
01:20:23.479 --> 01:20:26.840
it before. I think there's probably
plenty of people that are going to hear

1195
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.199
this and they've had very similar experience
as to what you've had, and they're

1196
01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:32.359
going to a no, they're not
alone, and be that it's okay to

1197
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:36.000
talk about it and tell other people, because I think there's power in that.

1198
01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:40.119
In my personal opinion, I think
there's a lot of power in sharing

1199
01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:44.760
your story. And I appreciate you
coming on. It's been fascinating. I

1200
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:48.199
think we could probably go for another
hour and a half. I really appreciate

1201
01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:54.199
you coming on and allowing me the
opportunity to hear your stories and share it

1202
01:20:54.279 --> 01:20:57.319
with the audience. So I really
do appreciate it. I did want to

1203
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:00.039
tell you that after that I saw
the thing at the mime Amounts. I

1204
01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:04.199
did call the BFR in the area
and reported it. They called me back

1205
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.920
five or six times. Is tell
it again, tell it again, tell

1206
01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:12.760
it again. They just they kept
calling back and asking me to tell it

1207
01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.079
again. And then I never heard
anything else. And if you if you

1208
01:21:15.159 --> 01:21:18.720
look it up, that the case
isn't isn't there you can't find it,

1209
01:21:19.439 --> 01:21:23.560
so I don't know what that was
all about. But they were very interested

1210
01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:27.279
in hearing me say it over and
over and over, and I think part

1211
01:21:27.319 --> 01:21:30.119
of the reason of that is because
it was so bizarre. You know,

1212
01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:31.760
they want to see if I tell
it the same way every time, I

1213
01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.439
think, to see if details changed
or something, you know what I mean.

1214
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:39.720
But that's that's I mean. I
did report it because I thought that

1215
01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:44.239
was the closest thing to what it
could have been, but I knew it

1216
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:46.600
wasn't. I had to tell somebody, and that's so that's what happened.

1217
01:21:47.119 --> 01:21:51.039
But yeah, it's important. I
think the details, the touchstones, the

1218
01:21:51.159 --> 01:21:57.239
touch points that are the same in
every single event, no matter who had

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it, what state they were in, you know, state of mind,

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their consciousness or whatever, there are
certain details that are always the same,

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and I think those are key when
we start to connect the dots on those

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unchanging points, that is where we're
going to find the answers. I definitely

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agree. Well, Angela, it's
been a pleasure to have you on and

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maybe we'll have to have you back
sometime in the future and dig a little

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deeper. Thanks so much for the
opportunity, and that's all I really want

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to do. It's just talk about
it and give people the opportunity to connect

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some dots. And you know,
if they want to find me on Facebook,

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I'm just I'm Angela's stots Statz.
I've got two profiles. They can

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contact me. I'll answer questions or
whatever they say. You don't want to

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go home your castay, I don't
want to be though. We're all out

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that chime, this job, that
chid, everything calling back right back,

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Joy for me to stay right now, you call it right away, us

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down bassssssss us to use Jesus