WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.040 --> 00:00:05.679 Streaming live. Honey, iHeart radio. Wow. This is I on the 2 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:12.240 Ball with Steve Rivera and Jacobzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Welcome back to 3 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:15.960 invol on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Your host for the day, Jacob zalas 4 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.359 my partner. Steve Vera is out today. How do you have? Juan 5 00:00:19.480 --> 00:00:24.440 here? And one is larger in charge now with breaking news. This is 6 00:00:24.600 --> 00:00:30.079 I on the Ball, Breaking News on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. A right, 7 00:00:30.199 --> 00:00:33.000 Happy Friday to everyone out there. It's a happy Friday, man, 8 00:00:33.479 --> 00:00:36.520 Friday. I'm so happy. This is Friday, sir. We love Friday. 9 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:38.840 It's got the day off tomorrow from work too. Here you go, 10 00:00:38.920 --> 00:00:41.920 man, perfect weekend. This doesn't work. Is this work? This isn't 11 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.679 work. It's fun. What's work? Is fun? Yeah? Okay? 12 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:47.840 All right, well, happy early Father's Day as well to all the fathers 13 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:52.560 out there. But starting with a game happening tonight, tip off around probably 14 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.399 like five forty five, Game four of the NBA Finals. Celtics looking for 15 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.000 the sweep. Yes, the Dallas Mavericks looking for their eighteenth championship. But 16 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.040 have you looked up when it was the last sweep? You know, last 17 00:01:03.040 --> 00:01:07.079 time the NBA Finals were a sweep. Okay, let's yeah, I'd love 18 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:11.400 to know that again. I hate sweeps. Uh, you know, when 19 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.760 you get to the when you get to the World Series or you know, 20 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:18.439 in the NBA Finals or whatever, you want them to last because they're fun. 21 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.640 You know, there's nothing better than the game seven of a of a 22 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:26.599 final series like that Game seven Stanley Cup Final is the best. Yeah, 23 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:32.000 because those guys they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna, they're they're gonna, 24 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:34.159 they'll they'll they'll die for it, right and they and they play like 25 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:40.480 that for for an entire for an entire hockey match. So I I'm just 26 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:45.280 I'm bummed that that we're sitting on sweeps for both these both of these finals. 27 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.319 Yeah, and like you said, Ath finals, the other one being 28 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:52.560 the Stanley Cup Final. Last night, the Panthers beat the Oilers four to 29 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:55.760 three, take a three nothing lead, looking to close it out. Leave 30 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:59.519 on Sunday yep, yep. So again, bummer, you know, I 31 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:02.959 I watch the Stanley Cup Final. I don't watch hockey all year long. 32 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.520 Yeah, seriously, I mean if it, I mean, if a channel 33 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:10.479 is on and there's a game on and I turn on my TV and it's 34 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:15.840 on ESPN or whatever whatever network run and there's a game on. I don't 35 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:17.520 even sit there and watch it. Then I don't watch hockey. But when 36 00:02:17.520 --> 00:02:21.199 they get to the finals, I'll put it on. I had it on 37 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.199 the other night. Yeah you know, I mean you said earlier Game sevens 38 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:28.520 even just for the fans, it's a different feeling. It is a totally 39 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.360 different thing. And who knows, maybe we can get it turned around, 40 00:02:31.759 --> 00:02:36.120 get to a Game seven for both of those. But we'll see what happens. 41 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.840 In the Spring Football League to have their championship this Sunday, Oh yeah, 42 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:45.240 two o'clock on Fox, the Birmingham Stallions going up against the San Antonio 43 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.240 BrahMos. All right, it's Wade Phillips first coaching for the first time in 44 00:02:49.280 --> 00:02:54.080 the championship game. Wow, oh god? And man, you know, 45 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:58.240 he looked like somebody's grandpa when he was coaching back then, didn't he. 46 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.080 I mean, he was just an old guy out there. Good for him, 47 00:03:00.159 --> 00:03:02.759 Good for him. Hopefully he can pull it out. But I'm not 48 00:03:02.759 --> 00:03:07.960 gonna liability for the Stallions. You know. Uh. Former former Arizona linebackers 49 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:09.360 Scoop Great was on that team. Therenzel Burns is on there now, so 50 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:15.199 gotta gotta support the Wildcat anyway, for sure. Very cool, all right, 51 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.199 he said, two o'clock on Sunday, two o'clock Sunday Fox. All 52 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.919 right, sounds good. In some Arizona volleyball news, they got there. 53 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.879 They just signed a middle blocker, k Roby. I'm sorry if I mispronounce 54 00:03:25.879 --> 00:03:30.280 the name coming in from Florida State. Oh, okay, transfer, yeah, 55 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:31.680 transfer, okay, should be should be a good addition to the team. 56 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:35.639 All Right. I watched them last year. They were competitive in every 57 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.360 game, but they have the greatest Yeah. It was her first I believe 58 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.759 her first year there. So all the luck to them come come fall yep. 59 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:46.680 All right, good, good, good get Arizona softball also got to 60 00:03:46.719 --> 00:03:52.639 commit from former Iowa State pitcher Sayah Swain. Okay, we know they need 61 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.479 pitching, Yeah, I mean that was the missing ingredient this last year, 62 00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:59.360 you know, I mean they had a nice season, you know, got 63 00:03:59.360 --> 00:04:03.080 to a got to a super regional, but you knew the pitching was was 64 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:09.000 dicey. And the dicing has showed up when they when they got swept by 65 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:14.240 Oklahoma State badly, Right, so you know, any pitching out I think 66 00:04:14.280 --> 00:04:17.279 would be welcome for Caitlin though. Yeah, anytime you can get any commit 67 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:20.639 to come to your school and against any help, you know, and it 68 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:26.040 gets to this point of well, you know that you know that player wasn't 69 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:29.319 all that great. Well, when somebody's transferred from somewhere else, they've already 70 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:31.560 got a season two, maybe sometimes three or four under their belt. They're 71 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.720 veterans as opposed to a high school player, you know, trying to make 72 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:40.439 that leap. They've made the leap, right, And so you know, 73 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:44.240 if if a if a U have a coach, a pitching coach or or 74 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:46.759 you know, the head coach, Kaitlin or somebody looks at this player and 75 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:50.120 says, okay, that player can help us, I'm sure that they'll take 76 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:53.920 that player. And you know, I mean they're going to recruit high schools, 77 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.800 but those kids have to make a jump, you know, to be 78 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:00.360 good. And and you get somebody that's in there, got the experience, 79 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:05.920 understand the level of play. You usually, you know, when they go 80 00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:11.120 get a player like that, they're generally pretty good. Yeah. So yeah, 81 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:15.319 hopefully that's a good addition for the softball team. The Phil Phil Steel 82 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:20.439 magazine came down with all their All American teams. Okay that uh Tetsuro McMillan 83 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:25.399 was named to the first team All American and some other Wildcats got some nods 84 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:30.399 with the Big twelve. Okay, yeah, Jacob Manu to Carrio Davis I 85 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:34.000 think was thirteen. So yeah, good recognition for those guys. It is, 86 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:38.519 you know what and when Arizona guys start getting mentioned on preseason All America 87 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.759 teams, you can that you see how much has changed in the last five 88 00:05:42.879 --> 00:05:46.519 years, right, you know those guys, uh you know, and and 89 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:48.920 Team Mac. He's gonna he's it's probably the first of many. I'm thinking 90 00:05:49.199 --> 00:05:51.920 he's gonna be on a lot of preseason All America teams, whether it's first, 91 00:05:53.279 --> 00:05:57.000 second team or whatever. No offel Fate, I've seen him raided anywhere 92 00:05:57.040 --> 00:06:01.000 from the third to the eighth best returning quarterback. I'm like, Arizona's never 93 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:05.879 had that guy. I know we had, you know, you had Khalil 94 00:06:05.959 --> 00:06:09.839 Tate. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrate and stuff like that, 95 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:14.160 and you know that blew up in our faces, you know, in the 96 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.160 first game. But you know when you see when you see a guy like 97 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:24.079 Noahlafida being mentioned among those you know up there in those in that space, 98 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.319 you go, okay, you know, maybe we got something, so it'll 99 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.800 be fun to see what happens. Yeah, I think it's also just interesting 100 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:32.040 for people that don't know who they say that name Arizona. Arizona's good again 101 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:38.079 a quarterback. And then even further from that, you see a guy playing 102 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:41.319 quarterback for that school my height, you know, yeah, yeah, so 103 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.360 exactly good for those guys, you know. Getting back to uh, the 104 00:06:44.399 --> 00:06:46.519 quarterbacks. I don't know if you saw. I think it was last week 105 00:06:47.160 --> 00:06:51.519 Jayden DeLaura he got you got let go by uh. I don't know if 106 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:56.360 it was a USFL team. I think it was actually was it? Okay? 107 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:59.600 Yeah, so he was toiling in there, hadn't didn't play in any 108 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:01.199 games, but you know, his man, you want to talk about a 109 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:04.639 career that just kind of fell apart, right, unfortunate least, and you're 110 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:09.360 throwing the injury, you know, I mean again, he was as good 111 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:13.079 as he was going to be. You know, he was struggling. How 112 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.800 good would he have been? Would he have generated any attention? But the 113 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:17.439 fact that you know, he got hurt and that was sort of the end 114 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:19.920 of it for him. That's a that's a tough go. It's a tough 115 00:07:19.959 --> 00:07:26.639 go. In some NBA news, former Phoenix Sun's guard Camera Paign did get 116 00:07:26.680 --> 00:07:31.319 arrested in Scottsdale for refusing to id to himself and false given a false report 117 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.319 to an officer. I don't mean to laugh when somebody has misery, but 118 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:39.240 you know, some of this stuff is so I don't know what happened. 119 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:44.959 But when they say you wouldn't identify yourself and that's why you got arrested, 120 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:47.920 to me, that's just dumb. Yeah, it's just dumb. Right. 121 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.439 The cops pull you over for whatever you're doing, they say, show me 122 00:07:51.480 --> 00:07:56.120 your driver's license, and you say no, and my name is you know, 123 00:07:56.240 --> 00:08:00.920 Joe Schmoe. How easy is it for you and not have to go 124 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:05.519 to jail? Exactly? You know, he just identifies himself. He's five 125 00:08:05.519 --> 00:08:09.759 minutes more down the road, right, He's gone, yeah, exactly. 126 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:15.120 But you know, and again I leaned towards the cops. I had two 127 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:18.120 brothers who were cops. I lean towards him. I say, mostly, 128 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:20.920 if you do what the cops say, you're going to be okay. Now 129 00:08:20.920 --> 00:08:24.800 we know that there's situations where that's not quite true, and those situations do 130 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.959 happen, and that's too bad because in one of those situations happen. Now 131 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:33.600 people think they happen all the time. But for the most part, if 132 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:35.759 you listen to what a cop says when they're asking you to do something, 133 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.559 because they have the authority to tell you to do that, and if you 134 00:08:39.679 --> 00:08:43.559 do it, you're mostly going to be okay. You know when you see 135 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:46.919 these videos all the time of people who you know, they get pulled over 136 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:50.000 and they don't want to they don't want to give up their license and registration, 137 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.679 they don't want to They say that you're not allowed to touch me. 138 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:56.519 Yes you are if if you're not going to comply, and then they go 139 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:00.679 to jail and I'm like, you didn't have to go to jail. Well, 140 00:09:00.720 --> 00:09:01.960 my daughter's in the back. Well you guess what we're now we got 141 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.159 to take care of your daughter because we got to take you to jail because 142 00:09:05.200 --> 00:09:09.559 you didn't do what you're supposed to do. Just drive me crazy, all 143 00:09:09.600 --> 00:09:11.480 right, Sorry, didn't mean to. I mean, you got to lean 144 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:15.440 on the side of safety, right right, But don't mean to rant. 145 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:16.840 Sorry, The last bit of news, a little bit of funny news. 146 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:24.440 The Kansas City City Chiefs Super Bowl champions got their rings yesterday, and what 147 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.080 the fans did notice is that there was a typo. The Miami Dolphins were, 148 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:31.200 in fact, not the seventh seed. They were the sixth seed. 149 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.120 And that was the only the only thing wrong besides I mean, you know, 150 00:09:33.200 --> 00:09:37.399 being a Broncos fans winning the Super Bowl. But you know, besides 151 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.559 the fact that it was the Chiefs ring. Yeah, uh, you know, 152 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.840 a little typo here and there. You know, he's God, who 153 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:48.639 do you Does somebody lose their job over that? Does somebody have to run 154 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:54.039 laps over that? Does somebody get demoted because of that? Are the consequences 155 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.320 to that? Right? I mean that that would that would be what I 156 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:01.360 would wonder. But how hard is it? I mean, there's only like 157 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.840 four things that you're putting on the ring, right, You're putting Kansas City 158 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:07.759 Chiefs, You're putting Super Bowl Champions, You're putting what super Bowl it is? 159 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:11.840 And then the inscription on the inside. That's just crazy. Oh well 160 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:16.639 that's it, you know, Yeah, when you when you have three other 161 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:18.960 rings, you know, yeah, try not to complain. But well, 162 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:22.720 li put it that way. This way, you can't do you can't do 163 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:26.960 something like that in my family and not just catch grief for it the rest 164 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:30.559 of your life, I mean for life, for life. You're you know, 165 00:10:30.679 --> 00:10:31.639 you're going to be a dinner and somebody's gonna bring it up. Yeah 166 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:35.960 ten years later. Yeah, you can't do that. And you just wonder 167 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:39.759 who you know who missed that? And I got missed at the start, 168 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:45.480 right because you can't expect the people who made the ring or who actually you 169 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.360 know, constructed the ring to somebody said this is what you need to put 170 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:52.440 on the ring and got that wrong there and that's where it got wrong. 171 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.679 Oh man, Oh well, what are you gonna do? I just imagine 172 00:10:54.720 --> 00:10:58.519 that that person sitting at dinner having a good Friday, and then all of 173 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:03.120 a sudden, you here, Hey, remember when you you messed up the 174 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:07.240 chief. Yeah, really, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. Thank you for 175 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:11.039 the dinner appreciation, exactly. Good night, too funny, too funny? 176 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:15.120 All right, you got that. Okay, one more thing that came up, 177 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:20.399 I mean literally during the break. Major League Baseball umpire Pat Hoburg was 178 00:11:20.440 --> 00:11:24.759 disciplined before the start of the season for violating MLB's gambling rules. He is 179 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:31.080 appealing the decision. The statement by the by the league just said that there 180 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.840 was a violation. They said, while MLB's investigation did not find any evidence 181 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.720 that games worked by mister Hoberg were compromised or manipulated in any way, mL 182 00:11:41.039 --> 00:11:45.799 BE determined that discipline was warranted. He hasn't worked any games this year, 183 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:50.120 and he's been he's been pretty good on thirty seven year old guy. He 184 00:11:50.159 --> 00:11:52.720 worked the twenty twenty two World Series. Uh, he's been, you know, 185 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.720 well, regarded as an umpire, but he hasn't umpired this year. 186 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:03.639 It's umpires the covered by the same same rule that players are under in terms 187 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.120 of gambling. Said, anyone found to have gambled on a baseball game they 188 00:12:07.120 --> 00:12:11.519 are directly tied to, which is any baseball game in connection with which the 189 00:12:11.559 --> 00:12:13.600 better has a duty to perform. As the rules formally put, it is 190 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:18.240 to be banned permanently from the game. They didn't say he bet on any 191 00:12:18.279 --> 00:12:22.159 games that he had anything to do with, but but there was you know, 192 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:28.440 he did violate. I'm guessing you bet on something that they're not supposed 193 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.919 to, whatever it is, So they're not saying yet until I'm maybe down 194 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.159 the road we'll find out. But yeah, major League Baseball umpire now being 195 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.440 being disciplined over this stuff. That's kind of starting to happen all the time. 196 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:46.320 Yeah, it seems like it. I mean, I don't bet a 197 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:50.799 lot, so I just I don't when I hear stuff like that, I'm 198 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.480 just like, well, you're choices, you know the rules, you know 199 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:58.799 what the rules are, and you broke the rules. You're just not very 200 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:01.360 smart now at it. When you know, when we were doing NC double 201 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:07.320 A tournaments, if you remember, Rick Neuheisel got fired from Washington because he 202 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.799 had he was in a NC double A pool. To me, that was 203 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:16.120 dumb, right, that was dumb. But now with with what's going on 204 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:18.919 with gambling and all the you know, on all the banding and stuff. 205 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:22.120 You know, you got to set some rules and people got to follow the 206 00:13:22.159 --> 00:13:26.080 rules. Even follow the rules, you suffer the consequences. No problem with 207 00:13:26.120 --> 00:13:31.200 that, no problem that as they should. As they should. Again, 208 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:37.240 another thing just came up. Zach Edy was invited to be at the at 209 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:43.840 the NBA Draft and he's politely declined, which probably is a good you know, 210 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:46.399 he might not go in the top ten. And then if you're that 211 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:52.639 guy sitting there and you know you're Aaron Rodgers and you're looking around, it's 212 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:56.000 probably a good call for him to see. I mean, that also just 213 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:58.559 seems on brand for him. I'm sure he wants to be with this family. 214 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:01.360 Yeah, yeah, he said. He said he's going to watch the 215 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.879 draft with his teammates, coaches, and family at Purdue, so he will 216 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.799 not be sitting in the green room waiting for his numb for the name to 217 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:11.399 get called. Excuse me, Okay, that's it. We're for the segment 218 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.720 job on Breaking News. We're going to have a doctor Don Porter, the 219 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:22.960 former Arizona athletics team physician, recently retired, now a member of the u 220 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:26.960 of A Sports Hall of Fame. We'll try and get some stories out of 221 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.559 him. We'll see what we can we can come up with. Doc's a 222 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:31.720 great guy. Looking forward to having him, So stick around for Doc Porter 223 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.440 in about five minutes. We'll be right back. 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Let Arizona Pest Control get rid of 287 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:03.839 you or bad bugs, termites, bees, or rodents serving Tucson and Southern 288 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.160 Arizona since nineteen forty seven. Go to azypast dot com to schedule your free 289 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:15.400 evaluation today. Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera and 290 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:22.440 Jacin Salvins. This is I on the Park on Fox Sports fourteenth. Welcome 291 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.960 back to the ball here on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. I'm your host, 292 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:30.039 Jacob Zalas my my usual partner, Steve VERI is that today, Oh we 293 00:19:30.119 --> 00:19:38.079 lost it. Hang up and try to call him again. We're gonna get 294 00:19:38.079 --> 00:19:41.680 Doc. We had Doc Porter what happened there? But the call got cut 295 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:45.920 off and uh so we're trying to get him back on the phone. So 296 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:49.400 stand by Doc is the I call him Doc. We've all we've always called 297 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:57.160 him Doc. He's Don Porter, former the former team physician for Yo A. 298 00:19:57.759 --> 00:20:06.000 Let's h okay, Uh well, uh I'm just give me a second 299 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:07.599 here. I know this isn't great, raty, but I've gotta I have 300 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.160 to text him now because, uh, for some reason, the the call 301 00:20:11.240 --> 00:20:22.880 got uh got craw Thanks. Oh okay, let's try that. Hi. 302 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:26.680 Is that you Doc? Oh? Sorry about that? We lost you. 303 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:32.160 I know, I'm not sure what happened there. I'm not either. Yeah, 304 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.240 this is yeah. You sound much better, so appreciate that. So 305 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.880 uh uh this is doctor Don Porter. I I get to call you doc 306 00:20:38.920 --> 00:20:44.480 because I've always called you Doc, right but uh, yeah, Don Porter? 307 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.240 The Uh how long ago did you retire? Don Doc? It would 308 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:55.839 be July, just two years. Longtime a team physician for you have a 309 00:20:56.200 --> 00:21:00.559 you have a athletics Uh. I told I'm sorry, I told the story 310 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.440 yesterday about that party at your house. I hope that was okay. Uh 311 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:07.519 where you where? You blew up your stereo? But that couldn't help it 312 00:21:07.559 --> 00:21:11.400 because I thought it was a fun story. But I do appreciate you joining 313 00:21:11.480 --> 00:21:12.240 us today. I hope you don't hang up on me for that, but 314 00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:15.839 we you know, congratulations, you're in the in the ares on a sports 315 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:18.839 Hall of Fame. What'd you think when you heard about that? Yeah, 316 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:22.799 well, first of all, thanks for having me on the show. It's 317 00:21:22.119 --> 00:21:27.319 it's really a great honor. You know, between eight years going to the 318 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:32.839 school here, three years or excuse me, two degrees and then you know, 319 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:37.839 thirty two thirty three years working at tea position. It's been forty years. 320 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:41.079 So yeah, it's just it's really nice to be acknowledged for that. 321 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.839 Oh I think we lost him again. Oh my gosh. Oh no, 322 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:55.480 Uh that's show what's going on over there. Well, we'll try to get 323 00:21:55.519 --> 00:22:00.839 him a call back. You just yeah, god, this is this isn't 324 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:03.880 great. But what are you going to do? Hopefully he'll call back in 325 00:22:03.880 --> 00:22:07.000 a in a in a second, but uh yeah, I mean here you 326 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:11.119 go, here, here he comes. Hey doctor, all right, you 327 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:15.720 have no clue why that's happened. I don't need but you know what our 328 00:22:15.720 --> 00:22:18.640 listeners are are. They're laughing at me, So that's all right, we're 329 00:22:18.640 --> 00:22:22.880 good. We're good. Well we've been laughing at you for years. You 330 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:26.480 have been, you know you have been, and and rightly so. But 331 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.960 you're talking about you know, you said like forty years at forty years at 332 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:30.839 the uv A, I mean that's you were a young man when all that 333 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.319 started. Now you know you're not so young, but you had a great 334 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:40.319 career. Tell me this, you know, you become a doctor. You 335 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:45.880 decided to go into medicine. When did being a doctor for sports and athletics 336 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:52.559 become a path for you? And and and why? Well, it's it's 337 00:22:52.680 --> 00:22:59.079 interesting because it's somewhat serendipitous. I I went to medical school here, graduated 338 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:04.279 in seventy nine, and then I went away, did my residency in Kansas, 339 00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:10.799 and then came back here in eighty two. Worked for about seven years 340 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.759 for a local HMO here. And I've always been athletically inclined. I mean, 341 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:19.359 some people would say putting my name in athletics in the same sentence shouldn't 342 00:23:19.400 --> 00:23:23.160 be allowed, but yeah, I was at I played high school basketball here 343 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.759 in town, and I was offered a walk on spot here when Fritz Snowden 344 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:32.160 was the coach. So I've always I've always liked basketball. I've always liked 345 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:37.559 sports in general. So one of my medical school professors was was my predecessor 346 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:44.079 at the university, and when he got retired, they reached out to me 347 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:45.920 and said, hey, what you know, are you interested in doing this? 348 00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:48.960 I thought, are you kidding me? I've been going to you a 349 00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:55.559 event since nineteen sixty three when we moved here. So it just was just 350 00:23:55.599 --> 00:24:00.119 a natural marriage with medicine and going into sports, and it's been it's been 351 00:24:00.160 --> 00:24:06.039 great. What was the kind of the most intriguing thing about that? Because 352 00:24:06.079 --> 00:24:08.400 you know, you're you're on the inside of something that you know, we 353 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:11.559 don't see, right. We we see the we see the guys on the 354 00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.880 field. Yes, we see them get hurt. We see you know, 355 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:19.039 you know, you know, even lately with you know, the way media 356 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:23.119 is becoming, we see athletes going through their rehab and all the things they 357 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:26.160 go through. But you know, you're right there when those things happen, 358 00:24:26.759 --> 00:24:30.839 and you're you're handling this and and you're trying to take care of these these 359 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.480 athletes. What's the most intriguing thing about that that maybe we don't we as 360 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:40.960 fans don't realize or don't know. Well, first thing you need to know 361 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.240 is, as you said, they go through a lot. The amount of 362 00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:48.039 preparations that these athletes undergo is incredible, especially when they first come in. 363 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:52.680 They come in, they have workouts in the morning, they have school after 364 00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:57.519 workouts, they have practice, and they have meals and they have study hall. 365 00:24:57.640 --> 00:25:02.640 So these these kids are going they're coming in for workouts at six o'clock 366 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:04.079 in the morning. They're not getting home until eight or nine at night. 367 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:10.359 And then they still had their academic requirements as well, so they do a 368 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.720 lot of things to prepare for these games. Everyone sees their competitions, but 369 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.799 they don't know all the things that they go through, you know, in 370 00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:22.240 preparation for that. The other thing, there's a echo, so if I 371 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.319 sound like I'm dis joining it because I'm hearing some feedback. But anyway, 372 00:25:27.079 --> 00:25:33.200 I was always fortunate to have some great athletic trainers working with me. You 373 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:37.000 know. Sue Heilman was the first one I worked with. She was, 374 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.039 as I recall, or I think she may have been one of the first, 375 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:45.279 if not the first woman athletic trainer or you know, for football. 376 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:48.400 And then I had Randy Cohen for a number of years, and then all 377 00:25:48.519 --> 00:25:53.279 the assistants that worked for both of them, So we had an incredible athletic 378 00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:57.680 training staff. So they do a lot of the heavy lifting for the physicians, 379 00:25:57.680 --> 00:26:00.240 and oftentimes they tea think is up for us, so it makes our 380 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.000 job a lot easier. Where's the where's the divide? And we're talking to 381 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:08.680 Don doctor Don porter Uh, the retired team physician for you of athletics now 382 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:14.200 in THEIRS and a sports Hall of Fame, don where is the dividing line 383 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:18.799 between what a trainer handles and what a doctor handles? You know, what 384 00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:22.599 what what? What's your role up to the point that then they get you 385 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.920 know, something that belongs is in the trainer's line of work. Well, 386 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:32.400 the athletic trainers are the first They're kind of where the rubber meets the road. 387 00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:36.680 They're the first line of the healthcare that's they're oftentimes their entry into the 388 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:41.480 healthcare system, whether they're injured in a practice or a competition, or if 389 00:26:41.480 --> 00:26:44.640 they're sick, or even if they're having some mental problems. You know, 390 00:26:44.759 --> 00:26:47.599 some of these kids are you know, they're away from home for the first 391 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.359 time, and a lot of the athletic trainers are there. I've gotten another 392 00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:57.720 call and to get rid of this. A lot of the uh the first 393 00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:03.279 entrance into the system with the athletic trainers. So the athletic trainers will often 394 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.799 do a lot of the initial triage and then if there's something that they feel 395 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.279 like they want help with or another opinion on, then they'll get in touch 396 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.960 with us and then we take over from there. So and how much of 397 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:17.759 the work that you get as a physician is it. I mean, you 398 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:19.839 know, I sit here and think it's all related injuries and things like that. 399 00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:22.480 But you know, athletes get sick, they need they need you know, 400 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:27.400 a doctor or something like that. But you know, where what what's 401 00:27:27.440 --> 00:27:32.599 your what is your involvement with the with the athletes, you know, besides 402 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:38.160 illnesses and injuries, is there anything else? Well, there's and in the 403 00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:41.680 illnesses, there's also mental health things that are going on as well. That's 404 00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:47.519 one of the biggest things I noticed over the years is that the explosion of 405 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.440 mental health services that a lot of these athletes need. You as I said 406 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.359 before, there a lot of them are here on their own for the first 407 00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:00.720 time in their life. This can be very overwhelming with the academic with the 408 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:06.480 athletic obligations that they have, so that puts a lot of pressure on them. 409 00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.160 So we see that as well. Yeah, has there has you know, 410 00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:14.759 over the years, has there been a change in how athletes, you 411 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.319 know, handle this type of thing? You know, in some cases, 412 00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:23.200 an injury can cost a multimillion dollar career, right their career can be over 413 00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:27.279 those kinds of things. How much you know, how much pressure does that 414 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:30.920 put on on you know, the medical staff to take care of these these 415 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.400 athletes, to make sure that you know, there's a lot at stake besides 416 00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:38.200 playing in the next game or finishing the season or or whatever. You've got 417 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.880 parents who are probably saying, what are you doing for my kid? How 418 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.160 do you deal with that? Yeah? A lot of what are you doing 419 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.400 for my kid? What are you doing to my kid? As you can 420 00:28:48.440 --> 00:28:52.319 imagine, there's a number of competing agendas. You have a coach, yeah, 421 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:59.160 the athlete, yeah, the parents, you may have their handlers and 422 00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:03.799 everyone's are all those people are stakeholders in the careers of these kids. So 423 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:07.480 you have to keep in mind that my responsibility, even though I have to 424 00:29:07.480 --> 00:29:14.799 take everyone's feelings into consideration, my athlete is the obligation is with the athlete, 425 00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:17.599 and that's why I'm going to take care of first. Obviously I'm going 426 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:22.599 to interact with all those other people, but the athlete is what we have 427 00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:26.039 to concentrate on. Has it changed a lot in the last few years, 428 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:30.480 particularly when you're here, like we're hearing today, there's a basketball player at 429 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:36.680 Kansas State who might be getting two million dollars a year. Has that had 430 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:44.640 any kind of impact on how things are done with NIL? I came in 431 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:48.000 on the tail end of that, so I don't have a lot of experience 432 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.240 with that. Certainly. I talk to my colleagues still, and you know, 433 00:29:51.440 --> 00:29:56.279 it's the landscape of college athletics, as you know, is just totally 434 00:29:56.440 --> 00:30:00.119 changing right now with NIL, transfer, portal, all those things. So, 435 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:06.039 yeah, those things certainly affect how bath we'd experiences college. But for 436 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.359 us, we always have to keep in mind is the health of the athlete, 437 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:11.839 physical health, mental health. Those are things that we had to concentrate 438 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.720 on and let the other things well where they may. Right we're talking to 439 00:30:15.759 --> 00:30:21.039 doctor Don porter A, retired a team physician for Arizona now in the Sports 440 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:25.079 Hall of Fame. What was the most fun about this job or was there 441 00:30:25.119 --> 00:30:26.799 something that was that was the most fun? I mean, I like to 442 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:30.160 you know doctors. You know, you see a doctor, whoen you don't 443 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.680 feel great? So I don't know how much fun you can have, But 444 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.680 what was the most most fun for you in doing this job? Yeah? 445 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.160 Well, one of the odd things about it is, unfortunately I know most 446 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.359 of these kids, I know proportional the how many times I saw them, 447 00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.680 so you know, if they're really have a lot of illnesses and whatnot going, 448 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.079 I know that I tend to know them better than some of the other 449 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:56.559 people. Well, I was talking to this was years ago, Laura Ianello, 450 00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.440 who recently went to Texas back when she was a student athlete. I 451 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:06.839 was meeting with some of the women's golf recruits, and so I started talking 452 00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:08.880 to her and telling her, these are the things that we have available. 453 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:11.359 We've got a pharmacy in our clinic, this, that and the other, 454 00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.559 and said, doctor Porter, I'm actually a golfer hero already. I'm not 455 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:18.680 a recruit. This is a recruit over here because I've never seen her in 456 00:31:18.720 --> 00:31:22.480 my office everything. So yeah. So, but it's as far as the 457 00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.200 fun things go, there's so many of them. People see me, and 458 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.559 they see me at you know, on the sidelines for football or basketball. 459 00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.559 I'm with the basketball team at the final four or something. They say, 460 00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:33.920 oh god, that must be a fun job, and it is. But 461 00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.039 you know, they don't see a lot of the other thing to the three 462 00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.759 o'clock in the morning phone calls when one of the athletes is committed, you 463 00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:42.920 know, considering suicide or you know, some of the other things. So 464 00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:48.640 there's there is a lot of work involved, but the travel was was great. 465 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.960 You know. Justin Kolkowski, who is the men's basketball athletic trainer, 466 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.599 every time we went to Bahamas or Maui or something, he said, Doc, 467 00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:01.599 you're going you know, So those those were fun. Earlier in my 468 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.759 career when I used to play a lot of basketball with some of the assistant 469 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:07.680 coaches, I'd played with some of the athletes as well, some of the 470 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.720 football players and some of the other players. We'd go over to bear Down 471 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:15.480 and play in a little league over there. And when I was old, 472 00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.279 younger, I had a you know, a few skills, not many obviously, 473 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.880 but you know, especially with that crew of people, it kind of 474 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:24.119 gave me a little bit of street cred because I actually saw me out there, 475 00:32:24.359 --> 00:32:28.960 you know, boxing them out and getting boxed out and that kind of 476 00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.279 thing. So feel fun to be able to compete with some of the athletes. 477 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.559 And you mentioned it that you mentioned at the start of the interview. 478 00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:39.440 You you you were offered a chance to walk on with a fred Snowden team. 479 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:45.519 You were good, right, Well, I'd liked playing. I liked 480 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.480 play, but I mean that's that's fascinating to me. I mean, I 481 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.680 I mean, look, I you know, I never I guess I never 482 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.480 saw you played basketball or anything like that. And I guess I should have 483 00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.240 thought, you know, you you're your tall guy, right, I guess 484 00:32:58.240 --> 00:33:00.920 you should have thought you might be, you know, good athlete. But 485 00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:04.359 man, you know to I mean, look, no nobody ever asked me 486 00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:08.440 to walk on it, right, you know, fight five foot, fire 487 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:13.240 foot guy with zero hops. But yeah, that happened. Fun. I 488 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:15.079 mean, what tell me a little bit about that. I mean, what 489 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.759 was that experience, you know, when you got asked and then what happened. 490 00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:22.240 Yeah. The thing is is that I didn't take basketball up until I 491 00:33:22.240 --> 00:33:24.920 didn't play at all in junior and I didn't play freshman year. I started 492 00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:28.519 playing my sophomore year, and of course I was like at the end of 493 00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.000 the bench. And by my senior year in high school, you know, 494 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:36.079 I was starting and and I was like second team All City and honorable mentioned 495 00:33:36.079 --> 00:33:38.440 all State. But you know, the thing is is that there's not much 496 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:45.440 market for sixty three for man in college. So I think they wanted me 497 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:46.839 to walk on because, yeah, I could be a little practice spodder. 498 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:51.400 But I think they mainly wanted me for my g p A. Yeah, 499 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.799 I was going to say, because we hear that that's the that's the number 500 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:57.599 one priority for walk Ons, right, you got to you got to bring 501 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.359 up the g p A. That's yeah exactly, that's fascinating. Well, 502 00:34:00.400 --> 00:34:04.240 Doc, look, you know, I hope we get to continue seeing you 503 00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:07.079 around. I you know remember you from I know you were there a long 504 00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.800 time because you were there back when I was covering sports thirty years. Oh 505 00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:14.360 yeah, yeah, so you know I love seeing you around, Michaale. 506 00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.000 I hope we get to see you some more. I hope you're enjoying your 507 00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:20.719 retirement. Are you really retired or are you still out doing stuff? So 508 00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:24.159 I'm retired. I'm retired, but I'm using air quotes right now because I 509 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.880 still do some stuff throughout my entire career. I worked over the Campus Health 510 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.400 Center, and so I still do some things over at Campus Health and I'm 511 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.440 still kind of in the bullpen for athletics if they need for me to cover 512 00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:39.360 some athletic events or anything like that. So I'm not whole entirely retired, 513 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.519 but I just use the word semi exactly. Okay, Well, hopefully hopefully 514 00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:45.639 it's hee around. Doc. Thank you, thanks for joining us. This 515 00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.960 was a lot of fun. And I'll see around mckaale or airs on the 516 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.440 stadium or somewhere like that. Sounds good. Good talking to you, Jason. 517 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.639 How did my guy Adam for me? I will do that. I 518 00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:58.800 will absolutely do that. Thanks abunch, talk you later. Okay, likewise, 519 00:34:58.960 --> 00:35:02.559 okay, doctor don porter former or I guess what he said, semi 520 00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:07.719 retired then I retired team physician for Aarzone Athletics. If you've never met him, 521 00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:09.800 you see the guy walking around McHale, stop and say hi. He'll 522 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:14.039 say hi to you. He's a great guy. I love being around that 523 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.880 guy, and really somebody who represented Arizona really well. So let's take our 524 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:21.599 last break. We're going to come back. Wrap it up. Five to 525 00:35:21.800 --> 00:35:23.119 zero, four one, six, seventy four, forty. If you want 526 00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.880 to give us a call, we'll be around until the top of the hours. 527 00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:29.840 Stick around. 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Welcome back toime ball here in Fox 571 00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:47.840 Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Jacobs, always your host. My buddy Steve Rivera 572 00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.000 is out today, but I do have one here a man in the board 573 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.360 and helping me along. Man Nice time today. One appreciate it. I 574 00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:59.000 appreciate it. You know, we just had a doctor, Don porter on 575 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:04.639 for a retired a physician at the team. Physician at the OVA got into 576 00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:07.360 the Arizona Sports Hall of Fame this week. You know, he mentioned the 577 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:10.400 mental health piece of this, right and how big and how big of an 578 00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:15.639 issue that's become. We've talked to the you know, the athletic department has 579 00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:20.480 a sports psychologist in the whole bit, so you know, it's something that 580 00:39:20.480 --> 00:39:22.519 they really had to pay a lot of attention to. And you you think 581 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:23.840 back, I think thirty years ago when I was, you know, covering 582 00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:25.880 sports, it is kind of like, okay, you know, you get 583 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.599 hurt, you know, you go see the doc, you go see the 584 00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:31.519 trainer. But he didn't think about all the other things that you know that 585 00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.840 were you know, that came along with that. And I bring this up 586 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.800 because I you know, one of the things that sticks in my mind from 587 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:44.760 the time that I was covering basketball. There was the nineteen eighty six eighty 588 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.679 seven season, or maybe it was eighty seven eighty eight season, and maybe 589 00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.639 it was a final fourth season, but there's a player, Brian David. 590 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:55.000 He was the IOWA Iowall Player of the Year, got recruited by Ludolsen to 591 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.800 come here, and he blew out his knee in the Red and Blue game, 592 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.159 right, So he's they're coming up on the season, it's going to 593 00:40:01.199 --> 00:40:06.639 be a great season, blows out his knee, and I remember when it 594 00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:10.239 happened. He was like he was just yelling on the court. He was 595 00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:15.159 crying. He was upset, and I think he was I asked him about 596 00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:20.280 it. I think he was more upset than he was in pain, right, 597 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.000 because he knew at that time, you you hurt your knee like that, 598 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:27.559 you were out for the year and you might be never played basketball again. 599 00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.599 I do know he came back and I think he played a season or 600 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.480 two. But I sat with him, you know what it was the eighty 601 00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:39.920 seven eight eight season, because I sat with him. Excuse me, oh 602 00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.039 sorry, I sat with him on the team bus one time on the drive 603 00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:49.079 from I don't remember where it was, and I asked him about, you 604 00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:53.199 know, when they were going Arizona's going back to play IOWA that season, 605 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:58.800 and it was a game that was arranged for him, right, because you 606 00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:01.480 got your the IOWA Player of the Year, and they that's how they used 607 00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.239 to offer that to to players like that, that say you come here, 608 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.320 we'll get a game in your you know, in your hometown or wherever. 609 00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:15.880 Yeah, and I remember he was more upset about the fact that, you 610 00:41:15.920 --> 00:41:17.760 know, he knew what the injury meant, not that he was in such 611 00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:22.440 pain. And that's what these doctors deal with, right you have Doc Port 612 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:29.159 who had to deal with the injury but also had to deal with the mental 613 00:41:29.159 --> 00:41:31.760 aspect of it back then. There's a lot more attention paid to it now, 614 00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:36.000 but you know, you still had to do all that. And I 615 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.800 can't even imagine what that would be like for you know, telling an eighteen 616 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:40.679 year old kid you're out for the year, you're far away from home. 617 00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:45.800 Good luck. Yeah, No, it's definitely it's it's a hard issue to 618 00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:52.639 try to cover just being a team physician, I mean whatever. What it 619 00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.559 reminded me of was, uh, I think a couple of years ago and 620 00:41:55.760 --> 00:42:01.440 a couple of years ago, but Zach Camilla, that was shocking, yeah, 621 00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:06.960 to everyone, because he was going to be the star center, starting 622 00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:12.280 center, He was a team captain, he was a leader. Now that 623 00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.039 tragic news came out, right, and you just you wonder what happened, 624 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.760 and then the ripple effect of that, right, how it affects the others. 625 00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:22.119 You know, one that comes to mind to me a lot is the 626 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:27.440 quarterback from Washington State, right, And you know they talked about how he 627 00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.800 he you know, he came, he came in, he came into the 628 00:42:29.800 --> 00:42:34.320 game against Arizona, played really well, but they got beat And then after 629 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:38.119 the fact you hear that that had a lot to do with how he felt 630 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:40.800 about himself and how he ended up doing what he when he did when he 631 00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:45.880 committed suicide, that it started a downturn for him, losing that game. 632 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:49.280 And I'm like, it was a football game, but yet you don't know 633 00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.800 what's going on in athletes minds. But you know what I read was that, 634 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.679 you know, losing that game, playing as well as he did, 635 00:42:54.679 --> 00:42:57.840 and losing that game, he kind of put it all on himself, like 636 00:42:57.880 --> 00:43:01.639 I didn't do enough, and he started he had this heavy weight that ultimately 637 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:07.039 led to him a committing suicide. Let's take this call. Hey, you're 638 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.079 on the arr and I and the ball. Hey, what's going on? 639 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:14.800 How you guess doing the day? We're good? How are you pretty good? 640 00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.440 I've been a while since I've been able to contact you guys. Well, 641 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.800 I appreciate you calling. What's on your mind today? Oh? I 642 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.440 just wanted to let Jay know that was a great interview with doctor dun Porter. 643 00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:30.719 I knew him that guy ever since high school. Yeah, he's a 644 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.840 yeah, he's a couple of years older than me, and he's pretty he's 645 00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:38.239 pretty modest. But he played out at Ringcon High School and he was a 646 00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:45.480 tremendous rebalcon. So well he was a tremendous doctor too. But yeah, 647 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:49.239 well look if Fred Snowden said, hey, you know, think about coming 648 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.480 and coming and playing with us for whatever reason. You know, you got 649 00:43:52.519 --> 00:43:55.960 to be pretty good at something, right. Oh yeah, he's a goodball 650 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.519 player, but I think he had his heart into academic to medicine. And 651 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:06.119 another thing I said about him, his father worked for the city Parks and 652 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.559 Recreation and he was like a father to all of us. Oh yeah, 653 00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:13.920 okay, all right, very good. Yeah, yeah, good guy. 654 00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:20.039 So I saw going up at the TAP twelve tournament up in Las Vegas and 655 00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.400 he looked great. So glad I was able to get into you guys. 656 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.079 Have a good day. Well, you do appreciate your calling always. Thank 657 00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:30.639 you. Very much. Yeah, have a great day you too, you 658 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.280 know. I mean, look, Doc's been has been around here for so 659 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:35.960 long. I'm sure there's a lot of people out there. One happy to 660 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.280 see him getting in the Hall of Fame too, had some experience with him, 661 00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:44.920 whether socially through the u of A, through medicine or whatever. So 662 00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:50.320 you know, Doc was just one of those guys that I sort of behind 663 00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.000 the scenes, right but visible because of the job that he had and how 664 00:44:55.000 --> 00:44:59.440 important his job was, you know, to you know, to athletics. 665 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:02.880 Good guys appreciate the call on that. But you know, getting back to 666 00:45:02.920 --> 00:45:07.199 you know what we were talking about, you know what's happening, and I 667 00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:08.880 don't know, maybe it's always been there, you know, the whole mental 668 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:13.840 health aspect of this, and it's just not coming to light because more media, 669 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:16.400 more social media and all that kind of stuff. But these guys, 670 00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:22.480 man, you know, you think the responsibility that somebody like a Doc Porter 671 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:27.079 has or the trainers, right, guys, he said, the trainers are 672 00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:30.280 sort of the first place that they they see, you know, the justin 673 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.800 Kokowski's and back in my day, a guy named Steve Condon who was the 674 00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:37.760 trainer here for basketball you know, he was a trainer, you know, 675 00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:42.599 handling Shawn Elliott. Right, you're the trainer. You got the responsibility to 676 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:47.119 make sure that Shawn Elliott isn't doing anything or you're that nobody's doing anything that 677 00:45:47.159 --> 00:45:52.440 jeopardizes what Shawn Elliott's got going for him, Steve Kerr, those guys, 678 00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:57.239 And that's kind of tremendous responsibility. And you know, when I said how 679 00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:59.960 much fun did you have? It almost a suddenly like he had a little 680 00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.199 tough time coming up with what part of it was fun? Right? I'm 681 00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.480 sure you know, going to the games and the travel and all those things 682 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:07.920 was fun. But when you think of the responsibility to hell, responsibility to 683 00:46:07.920 --> 00:46:12.599 put on on a person to handle all that stuff. Yeah, I mean 684 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:20.360 obviously all all medical people sign up for it, but it's a heavy weight 685 00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:24.960 to have a person's well being in your right, right, It's it's all 686 00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:29.119 credit to them. Yeah. So yeah, I you know, I don't 687 00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:30.920 know if she's listening. I told her to listen to my radios tri I 688 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.079 have. I got a new doctor. Met her on Monday, and uh, 689 00:46:35.119 --> 00:46:37.400 you know, and she's very young, she's you know, but and 690 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:39.880 it struck me how young she was even told her it struck me how young 691 00:46:39.920 --> 00:46:44.480 she was. Up she wasn't offended by that, but the point being that 692 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:50.639 I look at her right at this pretty young age, and any doctor that's 693 00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:54.639 very young, you go, you've taken on a tremendous responsibility. You know 694 00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:59.639 when when my my kids were little, you know, our pediatrician, you 695 00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:02.840 know, he he was a young guy, and and it's like, I'm 696 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:06.840 putting their lives in your hands, and you know, I'm putting my life 697 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.320 in your hands. And you think of you know, when when they were 698 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:13.400 talking about how much money doctors make and all that kind of stuff. But 699 00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:15.840 you know, doctor, you know, doctor Robbins has been on our show, 700 00:47:16.199 --> 00:47:17.840 and you know, we had him on our show, you know, 701 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.519 and we're talking about the pressure of being, uh, you know, a 702 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:28.119 university president. And he said, no, the pressure, you know, 703 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:31.360 my the pressure that I feel is when I'm holding somebody's heart in my hands, 704 00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.760 you know, because he's a heart surgeon. He said, that's pressure, 705 00:47:35.159 --> 00:47:37.960 not what I'm doing, you know, you know, running a university. 706 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:42.599 The pressure, you know, somebody's life in my hands. And you 707 00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:45.119 think about that, you go, holy crap, you know, I mean, 708 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:49.920 I never ever thought of being a doctor, but only because I wasn't 709 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.400 ever good at science, So me too, Yeah, I couldn't do the 710 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:57.280 science or the math. The amount of young people that end up signing up 711 00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:01.199 in those medical medical fields, you know, when they first get into college, 712 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:05.480 they meet that decision. They're signing up for the next decade of their 713 00:48:05.519 --> 00:48:07.440 life, right, and that burden for the rest of their life, right, 714 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.360 and they have you have to be a special person to be able to 715 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.599 do that. Right. You have to be able to go home at night, 716 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.960 put your head on the pillow and be okay with it, with what 717 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.679 you're doing. I know it's getting kind of deep in this stuff, and 718 00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.920 uh, you know, but I feel like it's a conversation that, you 719 00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:29.239 know, sometimes needs to be had to understand what people like Doc Porter, 720 00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.960 whether they're a team doctor or a heart surgeon like like doctor Robbins, or 721 00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.719 a general practice you know, a family doctor or whatever that that I went 722 00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:40.280 to on Monday, and the responsibility that those people have, it's just kind 723 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:45.960 of nuts. Not to say the same thing, but to put it in 724 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.440 a little bit more of a different lens. You know, head coaches have 725 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:54.079 a somewhat similar responsibility. You know, they're they're trusted with the group of 726 00:48:54.119 --> 00:49:01.000 guys of players, trusted, they're trusted by the parents to coach them up, 727 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:06.840 make them young, good young adults or even good young athletes. So 728 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.159 yeah, it's a lot of burden, it is. It is a lot 729 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:14.039 of burden. The right people are built for that jobs, right, right, 730 00:49:14.519 --> 00:49:15.320 all right, So well, anyways, okay, I don't I don't 731 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.079 want to in the in the weekend on that. I have a funny, 732 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:22.880 funny thing that came up. I saw this as I was watching the end 733 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:30.480 of the of the US Open. But uh, Francis Francesco Molinari, who 734 00:49:30.440 --> 00:49:34.679 people golf fans might remember when he was the guy who was leading the Masters 735 00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.559 the time that that Tiger Woods won it back in How long ago was that 736 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.880 twenty nineteen? I think what, yeah, twenty nineteen, he was leading 737 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:46.679 the Masters, he played bad down the stretch, Tiger passed him, wins 738 00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:52.199 the Masters. So that's Francesco Mollinari. Today. He's on the eighteenth hole. 739 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:57.440 The cut line is five over, he's seven over all, right, 740 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.079 in order to make the cut at the US Open, he's got to get 741 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.719 a hole in one on the eighteenth hole and he did it. Wow, 742 00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:09.599 he hit a hole in one on eighteen or well it was his eighteenth hole. 743 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:12.960 I don't think it was the I think he might have been playing the 744 00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.519 back nineth first or whatever. But he got a hold in one on the 745 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:21.440 last hole to make the cut. I mean that you'll even however he finishes 746 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.400 in the US Open. I mean he's playing for the weekend. But however 747 00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:29.239 he finishes, he will probably I could he will probably consider that the greatest 748 00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:32.000 shot he's ever hit and that he'll ever hit. Yeah, I mean why 749 00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:36.440 would you you know, you got you know what you got to do. 750 00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:38.480 It's a long shot, right, and you go out and do it. 751 00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.519 I mean if there was ever a walk off in golf, right, yeah, 752 00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:45.199 that's it, right, because you know you don't have walk up. 753 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:46.519 Well maybe you do if you make a putt to win the match or whatever, 754 00:50:46.559 --> 00:50:51.280 but or to you to win a tournament, but to be able to 755 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:52.519 stick around for the US Open. He's a really good player, you know, 756 00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.119 just it's been a tough course for everybody. Hold in one on on 757 00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.320 his last hole to make the cut by one, that's that's so cool. 758 00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:05.719 Start the weekend. Yeah, thanks to my brother for for passing that on 759 00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:07.519 again reminded me of that one because I was watching it when it happened, 760 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:12.360 and I thought it was a highlight, and then I realized it wasn't because 761 00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:15.320 he was in the group of Sergio Garcia, who gave him a big hug, 762 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:17.880 and I had just seen Sergio hit So I realized that happened right as 763 00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:21.320 I was watching it, which is pretty cool. Which is pretty cool, 764 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:24.920 and that's very fun. All right, Hey, you know what I We'll 765 00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.559 see if Steve will be back on Monday. Well, we will kind of, 766 00:51:29.639 --> 00:51:32.480 you know, kind of wrap get things going again on Monday, you 767 00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.360 know, going forward. You know we're talking, you know, the next 768 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.280 seasons are coming up, right, We got pat We got Big twelve football 769 00:51:38.280 --> 00:51:43.679 to start talking about. Phil Steele put out his all Big twelve team. 770 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:46.719 He's got a couple of Arizona guys on it. He had no Fafita third 771 00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:52.639 team Big twelve. So who were the two quarterbacks in the Big twelve that 772 00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.280 he's got above them? I don't know who those who those would be. 773 00:51:55.639 --> 00:52:01.599 I would think maybe the US. I got a transfer kJ Jefferson from Arkansas, 774 00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:06.679 Okay. I would think maybe just because he's from the sec maybe, 775 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:12.920 yeah, but I mean I'm sure maybe should Sanders might, you know what, 776 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.920 but I don't. I don't think he would be. I'm sorry, 777 00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:21.239 you know, And it's not because you know, I don't like Dion Sanders 778 00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.360 and stuff like that. If Shador Sanders is not a better quarterback than no 779 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.239 fl fate to playing and simple right now. He's a good player, good 780 00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:31.199 athlete, and he may be he may have more of an NFL future because 781 00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.559 of his size and you know, his athletic ability and stuff like that. 782 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:37.760 But if you want to talk to me about who's a better college quarterback, 783 00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:42.480 no Fafate has got it all over him. Yeah, and that's the way 784 00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.519 it should be. Yeah, I mean, he turned the Arizona season around 785 00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:50.760 right here, right would have done what we done. They're going for they're 786 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:52.960 ahead for six and six, seven and five season. Yeah, they get 787 00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:58.000 ten wins. So yeah, no, anyways, all right, hey Wan, 788 00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.840 thanks a whole bunch for being here. Appreciate that you're stepping in with 789 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.559 Steve out. We'll see if Steve will be back on Monday. In the 790 00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.880 meantime, everybody have a great weekend. I'll be watching us open. All 791 00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.679 the dads out there, who listen to us. Happy Father's Day. If 792 00:53:12.719 --> 00:53:15.239 you get a chance, you'll spend it with your kids. Have a great 793 00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:20.159 time. I'm going golfing tomorrow and then I'm laying down and watching the US 794 00:53:20.239 --> 00:53:22.079 Open on Sunday. So thanks everybody for being here all week, Thanks to 795 00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:24.000 all our guests, and we will see you on Monday.