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rating and review. Folks, We've
got some big news and that is four

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hundred and thirty eight billion dollar asset
manager Susquehanna buys one point three billion dollar

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in bitcoin et apps. Folks.
The institutions are buying these et apps,

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and of course it makes it very
easy for them to do it. It's

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coming through trusted brands and names that
they know, such as black Rock,

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Fidelity and so forth. And as
the filings with the sec are being revealed

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in the coming weeks and months,
you're going to see who those buyers were

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of the big, massive run up
that we had at the beginning of the

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year into March where bitcoin hit new
all time So that's going to be very

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revealing and also very bullish. Right. We've often talked about game theory and

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that if you know one firm sees
the other firm is buying a bunch of

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bitcoin ets they're going to hop off
the fence and start buying as well.

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So let me give you some details
here. In the latest big name transaction

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around bitcoin, four hundred and thirty
eight billion dollar asset manager Susquehanna has revealed

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it purchased one point three billion dollars
worth of spot Bigcoin ETFs. Today,

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Susquehanna disclosed its bitcoin etr portfolio in
a thirteen f SEC filing spread across multiple

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ETFs. So this is fascinating.
They bought the whole gambit. They bought

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a little bit of everything, for
example, Grayscale, Fidelity, black Rock,

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Arc, Bitwise, Valkyrie, in
Vesco, van k and Wisdom Tree.

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Interesting strategy and I get it.
They don't want to put all their

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eggs in one basket. And of
course it's probably based on maybe what their

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clients want. You know, if
some clients prefer Fidelity or Vanak or whatever

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it may be, they're probably going
that way out locating accordingly. But folks,

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it's incredible what we're seeing. And
remember the trading houses are not here

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Morgan, Stanley, Ubs and so
forth. James Seifert of Bloomberg and I

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spoke about this in our interview which
I published five days ago, so be

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sure to check out that interview.
The herd for the Bitcoin ETF buying and

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trading is not here yet. Yes, I know that seems hard to believe,

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but they're not here yet. They're
in the process of getting themselves set

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up, and you know it takes
time, right, they have to go

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through compliance and all the checks and
all the red tape and so forth.

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They'll get there, guys, it's
coming. And remember that there's also the

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educational and awareness campaign that is taking
place with the issuers going out to wealth

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managers and rias. So the diverse
set of investments in bitcoin ETFs is an

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interesting note. However, it only
grows optimism in the world's leading cryptocurrency.

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Nonetheless, Susquehanna International is one of
the largest proprietary trading firms in the world.

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The firm works in trading essentially all
listed financial products and acid classes with

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a focus on derivatives, and handles
millions of transactions on exchanges around the world

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every day. And of course they're
getting involved in crypto. And this is

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just the tippity iceberg. There's more
to come. Very bullish news here now,

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guys. Scumbag regulator Gary Gens went
on squawk Box today to talk about

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his same old bullshit talking points.
I'm not even going to play the full

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clip for you, but I'm going
to highlight some of the takeaways because I

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don't even want to hear this guy's
voice. He's annoying. He's a clown,

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like I said, as scumbag regulator, he's been breaking the law.

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And I think the timing of the
Robin hood Wells Notice news is because Congress

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is about to repeal the SAB one
two one rule, which the US Government

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Accountability Office found unlawful and it was
provided by the who else, the SEC.

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I'll play the clip of what Tom
Emmer had to say about that.

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But he was interviewed by Andrew Ross
Sorkin, and he was of course asked

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about if he themist and security or
not, and all the things that have

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been going on now. Andrew didn't
really grill him on all the court failures

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and being sanctioned and so forth,
but I wish he did. But you

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know, usually probably Gary would have
walked out right because he's not. He

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doesn't want to talk about that.
He wants to paint the narrative that he

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wants to so. Paul Griwall,
chief legal officer at Coinbase, highlighted the

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following of what Gary had to say. I quote, many of these tokens

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are securities under the law of the
land as interpreted by the US Supreme Court,

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so we followed that law. Paul
said, please stop misleading the market.

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Tokens are not securities, They're pleadings. Notwithstanding your own attorneys have admitted

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this in the court. So of
course the SEC attorneys have said this against

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her, and the SEC are even
divided among themselves. You know, Hester

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Purse and Marqui Wada have you know, called out the SEC and their unlawful

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activities and the way they've been treating
the market and the industry. Not to

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mention their lawyers when put before the
judge to answer factual questions, they have

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to say, well, yeah,
these are not securities, right and then,

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but they try to present it as
though it is. So Gary's line

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out his teeth here. He's a
big time scumbag regulator controlled by Elizabeth Warren,

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and both of them are controlled by
the banking and cumbents who are trying

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to slow this down. Guys,
it's pathetic. Our tax dollars are being

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used for this type of nonsense.
But this is why we got to fight.

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This is why we got to hold
them accountable, tweet out the truth,

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the facts, call up your representatives, and will continue to protest on

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social media and in different ways.
It is making an impact because we're seeing

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a lot of crypto companies are starting
to rally together, sue the SEC,

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fight back, punching back at the
bully, and they're lobbying politicians and we're

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seeing it the impact of pro crypto
candidates winning in the election. So big

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things are coming. We got to
keep fighting. Don't get me wrong,

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we are in for a fight.
Obviously, the SEC issued at Wells notice

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against Robin Hood, but this is
just Gary's silly attempt at trying to make

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things stick. Here's what William Mugay
are if I'm saying that right. He's

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an author of the business blockchain and
token Summoned Producers said Gary Ginsterer told Squawkbox

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and Andrew Ross Sorkin he would rather
not talk about crypto, saying it's a

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small part of the overall capital markets
and doesn't deserve the attention it's getting against.

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They're asked where are the financial reports
for these crypto tokens. Here's what

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William said. He doesn't understand crypto
clearly, and he's going after the wrong

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bad guys. He continues being the
villain of crypto, not the right cup.

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So I think a lot of people, even in the mainstream are recognizing

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this, like you're treating this industry
unfairly. You have the most enforcement actions

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coming against the crypto industry, yet
you're saying it's a small part of the

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capital markets. Why does it deserve
so much attention. It's because you're a

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clown on puppets strings blocking the industry, and when you lose in court,

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it's a big deal. You're getting
called arbitrary and capricious. You're getting sanctioned

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by the judges in different cases.
So this guy, he's trying to downplay

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it, but we're not gonna downplay
it. We're going to amplify the facts

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here. Cody Carbone of the Chamber
of Digital Commerce says, regarding this video,

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how are we feeling us tax payers? Crypto is too small for gangster

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to discuss publicly, but large enough
that the SEC has allocated a huge chunk

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of its enforcement resources. Feel protected
investors, he asked, and we got.

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Tom Emmer spoke out about the Robinhood
Wells notice, saying these Wells notices

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seem to be Gary Ginster's desperate,
last ditch attempts to intimidate and antagonize digital

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asset innovators. Now there was a
clip of him talking about the House looking

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to repeal SAB one two one,
which is that custody rule which prevents many

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of the banks from custodying bitcoin and
cryptocurrencies. And let me play the clip

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for you so you can hear directly
from Tom Emmer. Chairman Gary Gensler's tenure

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at the SEC has been characterized by
regulatory hypocrisy, inconsistency, and incompetence.

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The Securities in Exchange Commissions Staff Accounting
Bulletin one twenty one, commonly known as

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SAB. SAB one twenty one,
is just one example of Chairgenstler's egregious attempts

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to expand the SEC's authority and his
clear bias toward the digital asset ecosystem.

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More than two years ago, the
SEC disguised this illegal rule as guidance,

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circumventing Congress and public input so they
could prevent banks from safeguarding consumer owned digital

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assets. However, this rule isn't
just overreaching and illegal, it violates the

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SEC's statutory mission. First, SAB
one introduces more unnecessary and avoidable concentration risk

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into the digital asset ecosystem, making
our markets less fair, less orderly,

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and less efficient. Second, it
weakens investment protections by barring Americans from using

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the established banking infrastructure to custody their
digital assets, which leaves Americans assets more

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vulnerable if a custodian becomes insolvent.
And Third, this rule hampers capital formation

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and global competitiveness, as foreign banks
already have the ability to compete in crypto

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markets while our banks cannot. The
sec statutory mission is to protect investors,

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facilitate capital formation, and maintain fair, orderly, and efficient markets. Chairman

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Gensler is violating all three of this, all three of these with his illegal

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SOB one twenty one rule. Later
this week, House Republicans, we're going

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to do our job to provide oversight
and accountability to the SEC by passing Congressman

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Mike Flood's resolution so that this illegal
and harmful rule ceases to be in effect.

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I hope that our colleagues on the
other side of the eye. Well,

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well, join us as we work
to ensure the digital asset ecosystem can

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thrive right here in the United States. And I turn it over to our

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leader, Steve Scalees. So there
you have it. And this is important

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because they are in the process of
voting. It made it through the first

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round. It has to go to
the Ford for the full repeal, but

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that will be a big deal.
That's another big loss with the SEC because

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it got called unlawful by the US
Government Accountability Office, So this would be

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a big win. It's another item
on the list that Gary Genser has lost

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out on. Now, the other
big issue with the SEC is that they

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still have the Ripple lawsuit, which
has not been resolved. And of course

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Ripple took the lion's share of the
victory by getting the ruling that XRP intrinsically

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is not a security and secondary market
sales of the asset are not securities.

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Now, we got some news here
that the SEC has filed its Redactive Remedies

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reply brief and supporting exhibits. So
what does this mean. Well, Attorney

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Jeremy Hogan weighed in and said the
Ripple versus SEC briefs are finished, and

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I think the SEC went out with
a whimper here. It didn't even try

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to attack ODL sales, which is
on demand liquidity, just noting that Ripple

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was trying to relitigate the issue,
which it is, and it brought nothing

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new on damages, just waiting for
the judge now. So I've been on

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record saying that I believe Ripple will
have to pay a small fine here,

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but the SEC is not going to
get what it wants, like two billion

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dollars, right, and it's going
to be a small victory. But Ripple

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came away with the lion's share obviously
that the asset is not a security and

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secondary market sales are not securities,
which is great for the entire industry,

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not just Ripple and x ORP,
and many of these different token projects and

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exchanges can use the ruling as case
law. And many crypto lawyers in the

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industry are speaking out there. They're
saying things like the SEC is abusing the

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Wells process as part of a carpet
bombing campaign against crypto. You can say

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that again, right, this is
what it's about. Guys. He's throwing

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as much as he can against the
wall. But he's going to lose,

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ultimately lose. We are in the
then they fight you phase and the elections

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coming up. Gary's not going to
be here for a long time. And

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the disruptive technology, they can't stop
it. You know, they're going to

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try to slow it down, but
it can't stop it. And remember there's

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two things happening in parallel here.
The crypto startups and small companies are getting

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sued Coinbase and when I say small, I mean relative to you know,

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Wall Street firms like Fidelity and black
Rock, they're getting sued. The small

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ones are getting sued. But notice
Wall Street's coming in issuing ETFs, filing

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for ethereum ETF tokenization, custodying funds
and reserves for different crypto assets. So

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clearly two things happening here on this
spectrum. How can they both be happening

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at the same time. Why isn't
black Rock and Fidelities and these guys getting

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walls notices? Right? Do I
do even need to go further and explain

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that that's the game that's being played
here now? I'm in content with Mark

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Fagel. Many of you know him. He's a former SEC official. He's

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usually on Twitter talking about crypto and
much more, and we're talking about setting

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up an interview, so I want
to give you guys heads up about that.

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For those of you who know about
Mark Fagel, and I want to

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get his thoughts. You know,
I've interviewed Hester Purs, Joe Grunfest,

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and SEC official Joe Hall, so
it would be great to get Mark's take

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on what's happening right now because he
has been outspoken, and you know,

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I'll try to have a fair conversation
with him because there's certain things I don't

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agree with him on and there's certain
things I do. So we'll see how

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this conversation goes with Stay tuned.
I'll let you guys know when it's confirmed

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and we can compile some questions that
you all may have that I can talk

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guys, we got some interesting news
coming from Standard Chartered Bank. They're

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saying if Donald Trump was to win
the presidential election against Biden, it would

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be positive for bitcoin and crypto.
Trump reelection may cat pulled bitcoin Standard Charter.

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It says, now, this is
highly speculative, but I think there's

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some truth behind it, but they're
you know, taking it to the next

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level, embellishing a bit too much. But we know Trump has warmed up

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to crypto. I think because of
Vivek Ramaswami coming on his team telling him

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about CBDCs and crypto and bitcoin.
He's warmed up to it. We know

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his campaign has issued NFTs Bitcoin ordinals
and much more so. He's definitely done

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a one point eighty on crypto versus
when he was president and tweeting out that

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he's not a fan of it and
so forth. The man is now building

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on it, right. And Look, he may never come on and say,

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you know, bigcoin is great and
things like that, because that would

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be an incredible endorsement and very impact
on the way the markets may move.

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So I don't think he will want
to do that. But I think actions

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speak louder than words here where he's
using the technology and that's pretty big.

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And uh, he's talked about accepting
bitcoin his payments and so forth for the

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NFT's and shoes and all that.
Once again, this is not an endorsement

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of Trump. I try to be
neutral here when I report news like this,

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whether it's about Biden or Trump.
But they're not wrong here. They're

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embellishing a bit, but they're not
wrong here. Now, guys, we

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continue to see massive amounts of capital
flowing into the crypto market. And here

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Bloomberg with Crypto is reporting that crypto
startups are putting valuations in the fast lane

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with an aggressive form of fundraising that
reflects the digital asset industries recovery as well

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as a desire among venture funds to
put money to work. So I think

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a couple of things. One,
the bull markets here, the ETFs have

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been improved. We are clearly in
an uptrend, so more capital is going

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to come in. Two, I
think markets are starting to see the signal

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or what's down the road where the
FED will eventually cut rates, that we

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have hit the peak of our quantitative
tightening cycle. Yes the Fed has not

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cut yet, but they have paws. And it's better than when you are

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in a run up and they keep
raising rates. Right. That's where you

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to be cautious and you're like,
when is this thing gonna top out?

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It's all about the markets anticipating what's
gonna come next. And markets are forward

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looking, as I've often stated to
you guys, So they see maybe the

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next year or so. And I
think it's after the election that rates are

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gonna get cut, which means we're
gonna go back to easy money cycle.

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Right, the cost of capital is
going to be cheaper. It's gonna be

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back to money printing quantity day of
easing. It's not gonna happen overnight.

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There's a process to it, so
the Fed is eventually gonna get there.

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So markets are front running. In
my opinion, I think that when they

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start cutting next year, we could
see a correction for sure, like we

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have historically. I don't think it
happens before the election. Like I said

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in my newsletter earlier this year.
Now I could be wrong, and I

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think that we could see the blow
off top this year, if not early

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twenty twenty five. Maybe they don't
cut rates, you know, in December

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after the election, but it comes
in Q one, maybe February or March,

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and then you know, markets started
going down. But nevertheless, I

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think these fund see what's on horizon, cheaper capital as well as the bull

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market running up. So now's the
time to grab some equity, get grab

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some coins, and that you can
exit even later this year on some of

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those coins. So I think it
makes sense, and Bloomberg and all these

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different firms are sharing to recognize the
vcs waking up and starting to inject more

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capital into the crypto market. So, folks, that's the news. Let

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me know what you think. Don't
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about. So I'm looking forward to
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some of you there. I'll be
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much more. All right, guys, thank you for watching and listening,

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