Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Gimmick, your monthly edition,
your June edition. I'm the Canadian Nightmare, and I'm joined by the
returning I don't like that nickname, but S Bobs is back, baby face,
Damian Prease number one. Man, we're gonna talk about it. We're
gonna talk about him, and then joined by a crossover here I it's it's
time. Everyone's merging. The forbidden door has been kicked through? What and
what what is during grace call to the something portal? What is the other
one pivoted portal? Yeah, yeah, I don't know who came up with
that one. Yeah, I think she sound shirts on it too. Yeah,
so uh but yeah, we're gonna talk a little bit about that today
because we had we all have that in mind as a topic at some point,
but because of for beIN doors happening in June and now NXT and TENA
are doing crossovers stuff, that will be the last topic today we're going to
talk about. We all have our three aw WWE kind of crossover dream match.
We'll talk about that. We're going to talk about just w W and
general, so we'll talk about a little bit because we didn't get to review
Oh god, what oh what is that one? King and Queen the Ring.
They'll talk about clash coming up, and same thing with a w knty,
the same thing. We'll touch upon a little bit duber nothing and talk
about for bin door coming up. And then we got some free agency.
But Sub's gonna update us first on the draft here. So we've had a
pay per view, We've had a couple of title changes on raws two and
stuff like obviously the women's style or defenses. So how how how we all
ranking so far into because what we did this in March show April, May,
June, so month three, as we're on the end of week ten,
week ten, okay, so forty two weeks left roughly, I think
we're any a little early, I think, right, I thought we said
we were. I think after Chamber nor Finds. Yeah, yeah, Chamber
is gonna be the finale because we want a big one and we also want
to draft, not on like a random raw before WrestleMania. Chamber is a
good way to end some good points there. So yeah, what is what's
what's ranking at right now? So I have I'm at one twenty seven Okay,
my weeks have been not going because I have so many champions that they
just cut promos like every show, Oh yeah, you got like two points
every week. Cody gets you like those great pay per view main event points.
But I want to say I love that. Every week He's just like,
what do you want to talk to him? Like, yeah, no
points for s pubs. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I get
like, I get like two points every week, and then on the pay
per views, I get like in between like twenty two to fifty. Yeah,
you make it up. Yeah, it's like WGMO or if you have
a bad year, but if you have a great WrestleMania, you can just
get like one hundred and fifty K and be like, Okay, that'll give
me the next season on a title match. Yeah yeah. And then for
bonus points, I'm at one hundred and twenty five bonus points Cody and the
I have. I also four points for Tizwa, for which I'm surprised.
It's funny, like he's wrestled a lot less than I thought he was gonna
since the draft, you know, so I think right when I drafted him,
they went to edxt for like three weeks and now they're gonna get like
a potential hot baby face tag run so he might start a lot of money
in the bank. Fifty points Okay, then Travis is at so be me
by by one and you also get you'll have like like the pay per view
weeks will be really good and then you'll have like your normal weeks will just
like depend yeah, like yeah Jade and like Bron breaker like just saving.
Yeah, and Bron's gonna be great because I feel like we're gonna give a
push coming up for him and yeah, this is with me. I have
Ria gone and don't have someone else gone, so you have and so yeah,
my number one and two draftics gone, like and Seth who knows when
he's coming back? Rhea. I hate the news when they're like, oh
I hate this type of surgery. Who knows because MGF this happened to him
and they're like, he might get surgery, might not, and he didn't
end up okay. But now Rhea supposedly is the same thing. We're like,
well, she doesn't know yet, and that sucks because if she rehabs
it and then waits and they still need surgery, it's like, oh,
you should unsurgery like months ago now, you know, so I need to
hear she's gonna rehab. So she doesn't want the surgery. She's gonna rehab.
So I gotta decide, because what we got money in the bank,
and that's our next swapper. I already know, yeah, it's it's money
before money in the bank. I already know, like like Charlotte Flair,
like that was a waste of take, I think because she's doing movies now
and I'm like, I don't know when she's coming back. Well, she's
gonna come back at money in the bank. Yeah, she's gonna pull a
brock move stuff. Ali, She's come back and take it. But yeah,
so that's been so I've gotten no points for that. And also Dominic
Mysterio has been in jes So I got like two weeks to the and I
was like, oh, this is gonna be good. But Chelsea Green has
been a good pick though. That was I went with my heart on that
one. That's been like consistent points for David Oh. And you also you
have zero points for Elton Prince because they've never showed up. I know,
such a such a bummer. I saw someone else it Wasn'tknockamore. Oh,
it's like Finn I should have picked jd Or. Like Finn Balor's record,
he has like a record of like two and twenty seven this year. It's
like that's brutal, like Finn Balor first ever Universal champion. So yeah,
that Elton Prince saying that was a wasted pick for me. I'm pretty disappointed
that they're just nowhere. So and then David is a one twelve Okay,
he's been having like your pay per views are like you don't get like huge
points, but every week you get like consistent points because you yeah, you
have Bianca Gunther, like Damian finn Are True, Kofi Kingston like these like
people who were like consistently working on raw. Yeah. I think you're in
a good spot because when we started the first two months you were wrestlming.
It was really bad for David if you want to go back with everybody he
had other than Damien. Damien like held you down with that cash and but
than that like it was but yeah, we're so yeah, we're not part
of the forty five. I don't know if Travis I said your bonus points,
you have fifty five and then David is forty five bonus points and four
for Shinsky because people put those stats up of like two and thirty nine,
but that's counting house shows. Oh kay on Like that's like the solo ceco
on where it was like one in fifty. But yeah, he would just
lose to l a night. I feel like people are going to start doing
those with with Tiffany now because of the house show circuits. Like Tiffany,
Oh my god, she just lo She just she goes out there and just
Bailey beats her on the house shows. Yeah, Like I guess maybe it's
people that are newer, but even s Pubs has just started watching past year,
he already knows like how shows don't They don't matter only for the crowd
to have fun. It's a it's just a fun night. So it's like
an exhibition, like there's no none of those matters. Like, oh man,
she's losing against Bailey every night. It's just like that's a good spot
to be and she's like in the Woman's main It's like those those really don't
matter unless someone gets injured. Of course, right last year, I think
to Zou was like zero and thirty against o Mas on the houses. Yeah,
I think if we count as if we counted house shows for draft points,
subs would go insane. So yeah, I'm I'm happy at that.
But okay, so I think Cage matches all the house shows. That's what
I've been using. Like if I like missed the show, I'll just go
on on Cage Rush and look at like who want and stuff. Yeah,
well there we go. So other than the bonus, which the bonus we'll
see because those are gonna be wild throughout the year. We're all we're all
pretty like a couple, a couple of big wins or losses apart from each
other. So that's good. So yeah, and money in the bank is
fifty we had that. Yeah, that'll be exciting. So that's after it.
There's a good ww run of pay per views right now. They're stack
and clash their stack like money think will already be stacked because it's a fun
show. And then Summer slam. So but before we get that, because
we talked we were talking about off air, let's talk about some of these
free agents because that kind of covers both companies right now. Now. I
don't know if I missed anybody, but let me know so right now,
in the past month, we've had where's that list here? So Becky Lynch
obviously is gone right now. The determined thing right now is that she's taking
a leave of absence. You have Ricochet that as the last night was,
oh, he's gone, he's given his notice to now Meltz Or Who's like,
We'll be honest, it's not been the greatest has come to like ww
scoops, aw scoops. This I think are good. But he he says
that it's up in the air, which I probably do believe it could be
Ricochet bluffing. You got Natalia who supposedly is just under conversation with multiple people.
You got Chad Gable, which is a really one that surprised me,
this pig push. I have other ones like we're not gonna talk about Jack
Hager like that, Like I don't think he's going back to But is there
any other big ones I miss that are or not because Seffree signed since we've
been on last But I think the biggest free agent ones, those are the
biggest ones right now. I think that's a yeah. So s Bobs,
what do you think where do you think all these people are gonna land.
Do you think there's gonna you think Becky is gonna you know, just stay
with her because we've talked about a lot on the discord, which go check
out the discord. We're always talking about resting there. But yeah, what
do you think some of these names we're gonna land? I think Becky's probably
just gonna be gone for like a good while. Like I don't think she's
she's going anywhere else. I don't think so, Yeah, do you think
like a good while like this year, like even by next Mania she'd be
back? Or do you think even longer than that? I don't know.
I feel like she could be back on next Mania if now she's like on
the part time schedule, like she could do a program for Mania where she's
doing like the every other week appearance for like the lead up, and then
have a matchup at Mania. So maybe like maybe return. I mean you
could have like Seth come back in the Men's Rumble and Becky come back at
the Women's Rumble if you wanted to do that, have them both win it,
because that's the thing, Like I feel like when we talk about next
year's Mania and all the dream picks, it's not that she's not an asset.
She definitely any company should have or but it's this thing of like,
I don't know there's a spot for be Unfortunately, the only spot that's Becky.
That's like a oh the dream match is like the four horse woman match,
and that's not happening anytime, at least for like another three years with
Monet, right, Like, I think, actually it will happen at some
point. I think Hunter will want that to happen. But I think that
she. I do believe the report she's just taking a break. That's what
I was gonna say, because with Seth being injured, that's the perfect time
to make break, right is because they're home together. That's the time I
could see her coming back after. But you never know, right because Dave
and I lived in the era where Kurt Angle told the exact same thing in
two thousand and six that he just wants to break, causing me back,
and then he's on teena T Yeah, Like so I don't think that's gonna
happen, but again, you never know what can happen, because no one
actually thought he was going to uh teena and then it was just very random.
So I do think the thing with Becky that like the room. I
don't know if it was a rumor of just speculation of like she was supposed
to be gone and then Rhea got injured and then she was like back the
next week and then pulled off the title of the title. Yeah, I
think I think that might have been like so, like you did this for
us, and like we'll just let you have your your time now, Yeah,
what about you doing? Finished her? I just finished her book and
everything that she was talking about with her and Seth in their relationship. I
think she's staying. I think she wants to be in WW and she wants
to continue to work have each other backstage, never again worked together on screen,
as she put that, such a horrible experience. But I think they're
gonna want to stay. They're gonna want to stay together. They're gonna want
to have that road life because they made it work also with having their daughter
on the road with them and traveling with ru and doing everything else. I
think it will She's gonna stay there. I don't see her in a situation
where he's working Mondays, she's working Wednesdays, and they're travel schedule, they're
on opposite coats Like, that's that's not gonna happen. They're not ones that
I see doing that now some others. Yeah, I could see a Natalia
going out and doing that and that her cup man, that's pert. That's
like kind of like just a perfect way to debut her. Right, And
I feel like she's like I feel like she is like a life for WB
and she could be a coach. But at the same time, there's a
ton if she wants to wrestle for a while, there's tons of people in
AW She's not even touched at all. So and the fact that Brett has
history with adw uh you know, they they're on board with owen Hart and
things like that. Like, I could definitely see her doing that. The
only thing for her is again the spousal aspect of it. TJ is on
there and he's being a producer. So yeah, unless his contracts up soon,
he could go be a coach at AW two, right, there's a
chance. Or I think he has a school too, so they could just
do that. But yeah, what about mister Rikoshet, rick Ashiack coet see
leaving Ricky Shack gets leaving Rickashet. I want to leave mainly because I want
to see Rikoshet and will Ospray one more time. I loved their matches back
in the day. They had some stuff early on in New Japan, they
had some stuff in WCPW, they had stuff all across and they killed it
every single time. I would love to see the more heavyweight will Ospray going
against a more refined Ricochet, and it won't just be a match of flippy
shit. It will be just a good match by those two. I think
that they would pull in an absolute show. So for that reason, that
reason alone, I want to see them go at it. And they are
also spoilers for later gonna be mentioned again. Yeah, yeah, of course.
Yeah. I can't think, oh, the inaugural speed Champion, you
know, with the now that they're saying, it's like up in the like
before I was like, oh, he's leaving for sure, and it's up
in the air. I think this would be. Just a few days ago,
I was listening to an interview with Chelsea Green and she was saying,
like when she left Impact, like she got the title, like the day
they told her she was gonna win the title, like she had already been
planning to leave, and so she won it, and then she said like
I'll do this for like as long as you need me, and then I'm
gone. And I think that's with Ricochet, like I think he said,
like, I think what he's gonna do is like finish whatever story they're doing
with this, like bron Breaker, He's gonna like the steel stop chair.
Yeah, exactly, ten tables, Yeah, the go off and she got
electrocuted even though they can touch. Yeah. Yeah, So I think I
think that's what's going on, like finished whatever is the plans for him,
and then he'll be gone. And yeah, I'm like, pretty I'm not
even gonna say ninety nine percent, I'm gonna say one hundred percent. Sure
he goes to AW. Oh yeah, if he's gone, he's it's an
AW for sure. Will's been saying it and he just fits that vibe the
Whold with the best wrestle. And I didn't know if he was gonna go
because Samantha, again, I don't know what people's relation statuses are they gonna
make that work, right, But I just thought he might, especially because
of that, there's always been these rumors of like, yeah, they're planning
and pushing him soon as much as a joke. They did at least give
him the Speed Championship, and like X is paying the money for that show,
so I thought, okay, they are starting. But at the same
time, it is this thing of like I'm not sure where Hunter and the
company view him as, right, Like do they view him as like it's
just tough? I could do the hum is just another guy? Or do
the Vium is like the next Ray because like, obviously he does in the
next mass, but I feel like he could be the next Ray. But
if he's just like another hand half, then I think he should go.
And there's tons of stuff in aw for him to do. So, like
I said, it's like, it's not like a huge loss to WW if
it happens, it's just he's kind of gone, like and I saying even
like Becky, like she is a big loss. But it's because they have
so many big stars right now. They're not like you look at that injury
list, like there's so many people gone and they're still doing well. And
that's a good thing about WW is they have so many stars that well maybe
it will be you could go be a bigger fish in a you know,
smaller pond, and Ricochet will definitely stand out more so I I'll be excited
for when he goes. Maybe he'll do like a couple of stints at like
you'll see him at a GCW for a day, or like if there's a
ninety days or something like that, you'll see him on. But yeah,
I think, uh, I guess he's he's gone. I didn't think that,
but yeah, aw, there's no there's no question. I also just
remembered another like free, isn't it Angel Garza who say yes, yeah,
both of them. Yeah, yeah, I think I don't remember which one
it was, but like after a Ricochet news he tweeted out like like what
would you do or something like that. Yeah, So I think I think
they're they're gone. So no more there, like there the Latino versus is
breaking up. Yeah, they gotta do that again. The jokes about Penta
are not They're not wrong. I guess that. Yeah, that's another one
I can say w side Penta, And that's It's funny because in both companies
there's a bunch of people that I think could stay where they are, and
that's a better pick. There's people like Ricochet where like are in the middle,
and then there's like Penta where I think he should stay with AW.
I just think, like he said, such a spotty track record with Luca
Doors like they've had, they will build them up and then when it comes
there they just other than Ray, they forget about them. And then Alberta
de Rio wasn't Lucha Door, but they did push him a lot. But
on those two, I don't know. So I think with Penta too,
he's still he wrestles sometimes more like hardcore style, and he likes to do
those really blood matches and tax on boots and all this shit. Like I
don't unless he's just looking to make money and there is money there, like
if he's Papa, you can sell those toys, you can sell them.
That's like, that's like ch money. Yeah, he could wrestle like like
like on each only on the pay per views and get the merch money.
Absolutely yeah, But that's where it's just like I think with him, it's
tough because I just don't know. If W's I don't know what they would
do with I just don't know if Pinta he feels almost I won't say too
adult, but just not the style. I'm not saying he couldn't change it.
But for me, I think he's better to stay in aw But hey,
if you want to make some big money, because I see I did
see a post like yesterday it was like, I don't think Pena. It
was a photo of him, like he is like a mansion and stuff like
that. He's like apparently he like owns Rest frances and has like a wrestling
school. It's like an actor in Mexico and he's very rich. Yeah,
and maybe they maybe that's what we want that too, some cross or whatnot.
And I know he like uh, I think he made lots of good
money in his time in Mexico. So I at the same time, if
he goes up to be I'd be very curious to see how they handle him,
what they do. I'd be curious see what is like what Phoenix does
and if he follows. But yeah, what about you, Dave, What
do you think, Pana? Do you think he's best to say where he
is? I think you should take a take a shot at the at the
FED. Do not go to w W unless unless you just want to do
the Shinski. Hey I want a chilling surf and enjoy life type deal.
If not, yeah, you're going to get a push out the door and
then after that they're going to forget about you. Speed Champion number five.
You know, yeah, you're you're gonna be sitting there sending tweets just like
Andrade about why am I only wrestling the other here? I love Androtta man
the man who can just never beat him, and fucking Russo slash Miro just
the man that can never be happy. It was supposedly with Miro, but
it's just like, yeah, I just it's weird because I thought Andrada.
I guess I bet it will improve when Charlotte's back on the road eventually,
much to Sbub's point of who knows when she's back, But it does suck
that he got there and then right when he got there, she got injured,
so that sucks. And then he's just like it was great that the
game the mania spot, but yeah, he's just I'm with those people,
like he could put on some really good matches, and I also think they
have him in a bad spot like Babyface Androtte is not the way to go.
I like him enough, but like he's a heel, arrogant cocky,
like if Charlotte's around, sure do the baby facing. I was finding him
doing the LWO. But now he should Okay, I don't want to say
turn against Ray because like everybody does, like he should. He should do
something like that shore dude. Anyways, show show clash at right, he's
a heel. Yeah, but yeah, they gotta they gotta turn him quick.
But that's a that's a tough thing, right. It's like with AWW
W A is the bigger show, but if you don't get in like that
top twenty slot, it's it's very hard to break through with it. And
that's why I think andre Androtti maybe thought he was gonna like right away,
and it's like, well, we got all so much other ships going on,
especially because he was around, Like the women were getting bigger but not
as big now. So yeah, I'm trying to remember who eliminated androte from
the rumble. I don't remember who it was. He was eliminated by Bronson
Reid okay, another start stopper. Yeah, kind of all over so and
that's the final free agent. Let's talk about that with Bronson Reid Chad Gable,
which is another one that I'm this is, I'm I get it.
He could go to a W and have some bangers. I already see the
graphics of him and Brian, I get it right, like like I I'm
I get if you're just a pure wrestling guy, absolutely, But I feel
this storyline has months now. They could just blow it off and like we've
said, it could just be Sammy beats him and then Otis squashes him and
then they move on. But I think there is at least six months to
the ALFA Academy, him the Creed Brothers, Like that's a year him and
Creed brother Like there's so much and this character it's it's almost like I would
love him to sign like a two year contract and then at the end that
cks W serious about pushing him. Then if not, then go to AW
Like obviously you might miss out on Brian, but AW will still be around
in two years, so that's why. But I know at WW and AW,
they usually at least sign like those three to five, So I don't
know that's one where he can have some great matches in AW. But I
want him to say in AW or sorry AWW, because I feel like things
are going very well and there's lots of untapped potential there still, So yeah,
definitely, I don't I don't think right now is the time for a
Gable to jump ship. It's it wouldn't be in his best interest from the
fact that he has more to do right now in WWE going to AW There's
a whole lot of storylines going on in AEW right now, So you would
either plug into an already existing or you'd be struggling to start your own when
you have some stuff that you can still work out in there. You can
put on a couple more matches with Kunther and people will still be interested in.
You can finish out your arrival with Sammy Zay, you can continue the
Otis Alpha Academy stuff like you have at least another year or two of storytelling
and booking that you can do, so now wouldn't be the good time.
And yeah, to your point, you miss that on the opportunity to wrestle
at Daniel Briant. But there are also other stars there that will still be
there. You'll have your Daniel Garcias and they'll bring in some more people that
you can rush matches with. Yeah, you can be in the Chair Vortex.
He probably would be. So you know, this just isn't the right
time for Gable. I think he has so much more that he can do.
Yeah, did you say in s bubs Uh? Yeah, I think
so. I think especially with like his contracts supposedly being up like this Friday,
and he's on Clash to the Castle, like, yeah, if it's
not a if it's not at least a short term deal, I mean he's
saying, yeah, I could do extend. I can't remember who did an
extension recently. I thought there was somebody that didn't extension. I don't think
it wasn't Becky, but I thought there was somebody in the past year or
so that was extended for a little bit. But yeah, clash him and
sam that'll be the because so if let's say he is signed or whatever,
and I guess we can transition to talk about dead now and some predictions there
is he does he kind of have to win the Icy title because that's I'm
kind of there, Like I feel like that would be a shorter run for
Sammy than I thought, but it is. Guess there's stuff they could do
with him and Creed Brothers. I just feel like the Chad Gable character,
like I feel like that's where you pull the triggers. You have the Creed
Brothers screw over Sammy, and I feel like the money is with Gable and
that icy title right now, even if Za gets it back. So I
feel like if he loses, it's almost like what do you do next with
Chad because then he's just he is the loser that just keeps saying I'm the
best and now he's lost like three to four times, you know. I
mean that's kind of like what happened to the Live Morgan, Like she had
like the revenge at the start, and it's like lost the Rumble, lost
the Illumination Chamber, lost the Battle Royal, and then she won it at
the end, and then people are saying like, oh, she's just she's
buried, she's losing everything. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, same,
It's it's really it's hard to say, like there there's so much going on
in all the companies that it's now doesn't seem like a good time for any
big, massive changes except for a few select things. I think any almost
anything would be lost in the shuffle of we got too much going on over
here, we got too much going on over here, we have too much
going on with personnel over here, we got too much going on with who
we can push and what we can do, Like, it's just it's a
weird time. Now. If they want to do more of the Forbidden Doors
type stuff, then send Gable and the Creed Brothers the TNA. Oh my
god, that would be that'd be something. Yeah, so I think I
think Gable could win it and then Sammy wins it back like at Money in
the Bank. Yeah, because I think it's like if Sammy like he's being
gooned, So so you want to shoel like this is like a top person
who like beat him beat gunther clean, So you could have like Otis make
Sammy Luz or something. It's like, oh, like he interfered and like
and then it's like, I don't know band Otis from ringside At Money in
the Bank, the Canadian crowd holds Otis back and then Sammy wentz and then
what else? So we got right now because I'll just list them all going
on, we got Bianca and Jay versus Albi Fire and also down and Chambias
are is always starting ike forget this is a triple threat. I like triple
threat tags. If they're done well, they can be kind of fun.
They can also be messy, but you got that going on. You got
Cody Rhodes and aj Styles in an I Quit match, and then we just
talk about Gable and Zane, got Bailey and Piper Nevin and then you got
Priest and Drew. I'm gonna start there because I want s Bubs to defend
baby Faced these promos man, like, come on, dog, what is
the dog like problem? Man? So bad? We talked about this last
time. I me and David have like I just don't I understand. I
think that's what they're doing now is they want Damian b Babyface so someone in
Judgment Day can back up Rio for those intergender matches. But I just think
the way they're going about it is just it's not working. And uh so
that's thing so tell that also is it's Drew hass to get the moment here
right, because now I feel like people are back pedaling it the whole year.
It's like, oh, that's when we get the title, and now
I see so much of like, well, maybe Punk's gonna scream out of
it. Like I feel like people are trying to like convince me that's not
happening. But I think Drew is like he's getting that title like there's no
way in my opinion, So what Priest you first, I don't know.
I just like I just like his pros. I don't know what it is.
I find it enjoyable. It's enjoyable. It's not the word. I
don't know. I don't think it's bad. He just always seems a little
lost when he's doing the bed, not when he's a heel. It's weird
when he's a heeling, but with the bay face, it's just like and
because it's like he isn't this weird spot where he's a tweener. So maybe
when they do the full turn it'll be better. He just feels like and
then he'll he'll make these comebacks and then he just got Drew Shreddom and he
looks he looks bad. I don't know, it's just it's just odd.
But yeah, he's still bandwigon that. He's dropping that at Clash and this
is the priest experiments over now. Yeah, I think so. I mean,
honestly, at this point, I still think with the punk stuff,
like, I don't know, No, I think Drew's winning it. Like
I think punk does show up somehow, even if it's just a setup,
like at Money in the bank, we're gonna have a match, but I
think I don't know, maybe you could have it, like if you could
have a b that like Punk shows up to do like classic distracting him,
but this time he's like he's focused on on the title war this time,
like I'm not gonna let Punk cost me, so like like you won't beat
me by distracting me. Now you have to actually beat me in a match
or something like that. Yeah, And then after that, Priest I don't
know, like they kick him out of the judgment or something. I don't
know, Yeah, because it feels like he's already like he feels like above
all of them in terms of like like ranking in the in the justice.
It'd be weird if they're like like the like like JD McDonald's gonna kick him
out of the judgment they like. I feel like like this would be as
easy for them to do that. But well, I wonder too, Like
I'm just wondering if they kick the time for me, is the kick Priest
out before after Ria gets back, because I could see it before, but
I could also see a really hot angle like the same night they're all reunited
and like they like lives with them and JD and I guess Carlito now maybe
Finn Valley, like they all beat them down and that could work, like
I and I think there's something really fun with that because they did that to
Edge, so I think it's like a real good karma thing if they get
beat down and beat the shit by a Judgment Day. And Finn, who
was never even a part of the original Judgment Day is the guy that orchestraates.
I think there's some really good symmetry there. I guess Dom right got
domb too, and he should be healthy hopefully by to that till point.
But David thoughts on Bayface Priest, when is Priest getting kicked out? And
there's is still a lock for Drew. So depending on what happens with Live
Morrigan is when Priest gets kicked out? If you if you dive fall in
on Live Morrigan and say it happens at clash and she starts the night off
by fully embracing what she has to and then later on that night Damien loses.
I could see a point where Live comes in, she whispers something to
both Finn and dom and next thing you know, the Judgment Day is jumping
priests out the group next night. I think you do that at Raw the
next day. Yeah, he loses that clash. You do that raw the
next day, she whispers in their ear. The whole group jumps, and
she shows she's now in charge. That will set up for mommy's return.
Let her on down the line and keep everything going with that, and then
that will let Damien go over and have his time. And depending on what
they do with real when she comes back, she can either have Priest in
her corner as she tries to reclaim Judgment day, or he can just be
continuing to do his only his thing over there, calling everyone bro and living
his best life. This is the raw after class Castle. You know,
they're beating Damien down. Let's go out, and then Uncle Howdie comes in
for the same. Well, that's as like you gotta do the laughter,
because you do. During the title match, they just they just buryed Damion
because the whole crowd's gonna pop on just Damon getting beat up, and like,
you know, just you don't want to do that, so they got
do in a way where there's some simply that's my only reason why I drew
his moment. Yeah, Drew have his moment. I clash the castle.
Let let them all go home happy. He'll probably say something to the crowd
after they just sing a crappy song. Yeah, so, but let them
have that moment, and then the next night it is when you do it.
You can even have like some of the members of the Judgment day come
out to try and pick priest up and carry him out while Drew is celebrating,
and then you just kind of see in the background a little bit of
pushing and shoving and like I don't need you guys to help me out and
stuff like that. Don't linger on it, but just make sure that it's
just kind of in the background of this celebration and then you can do all
address it all on Monday. Yeah, and we didn't touch upon this,
but I think we toldos in our first or second episode ever very happy and
excited they did do the Live Morgan thing like that. We talked about wanting
that, and lots of the internet wanted that. And again, sometimes predictable
can be that bad. But this is a case where one they're doing good
stuff with it, but two it's just as like this is the route for
to go. Obviously, they're happy at the social media, so that's what
it's like. Yeah, sometimes the romance love angles and w or wrestling in
general can be shit, but if they're done well, it can be the
most fun, like intriguing stuff. And yeah, I think Lives doing a
great job and I think this is gonna get her to the next level,
to the point where we talked about it. I think other people too,
where it's like it was like oh Ria and Bianca was the vision for Mania,
but now like I am on the Live Ria Mania bandwig, and I
think that's good because like the Live fans will shut up because Live will finally
get a big Wrestlemanium moment and like a singles match. And I feel like
that's what you do is I feel like you keep Ree away from liv until
Mania. You make it like you he wants her hands on her, He
can't you have the judgment day blocking her maybe like she has an emberone contendership.
They screw her like I think real even though she won the Rumble two
years ago. I think that's the play. And I guess there's always Chamber
two, right, but I feel like Living Ria is the play, Like
you got Live Ria Jaden Bianca and I don't know what they do for the
women's title. I'd like Bailett Holt for a year and maybe maybe you do
Bailey and Tiffany, and Tiffany gets paid back for all those house show losses,
you know. But yeah, theyve I think they're they're hidding home Run.
I can't wait, Like I think Her and Ria, it's gonna be
great when Punk gets back and then Ria gets back. You're gonna have Punk
and Drew and then Ria and Live like both fighting for what's the top program.
And I would have said Punk and Drew for sure the only issue.
As we've talked about Punk and Drew recently, I feel like they're I'm glad
Punk's gone a bit for now because I think they're running a steam a bit
with like Punk can't do much and he's just was cutting similar promos and weird
stuff of like I'm gonna send the ring till Drew gets back and then they
go to commercial and then Punks go on. It's like what do we do?
Like it just felt like it is, okay, we're out of steam,
So like now I really don't want anything more until Bunk's good to go
so I think Live and Rihea could really become the top program of Raw,
which will be tons of fun. So so then do you bring You wait
till either WrestleMania or the night after WrestleMania to bring back Rhea, knowing that
let Live have her moment and either at the end of the match you get
an appearance Slash WrestleMania Pop for real return. You think she's gonna be gone
till next April. Don't do this to me, David. She's gonna be
going that long. She's rehaben not surgery. I have a feeling she could
rehab and still need surgery. Yeah, right when we talked about that.
Yeah, if that happens, then yeah, then I agree with you.
It would be passed. I think, yeah, if she's ready to go,
you do the the Monday after. It's tough because in my mind the
Live Morgan thing, I guess it just depends how well she does. It
doesn't have an expiration date, but I feel like it is till Mania Rhea
beats her and then it ask to me something else. I just don't know
if she can, Like I don't know if w W would run with her
versus somebody else. That mean, you, you know, maybe a triple
threat, but I don't know if they they will, but who knows.
You never know. She might Rhea. I always thought it was gonna be
big, but then she like blew up, Right, this could get Ria
to blow up, So I guess ask me and like ask me in two
months to see like what the reactions. Live still getting right, because this
is fun. This is all like hot, like no pun intended with the
dom stuff, but like after that, can she's sustain it? Because that's
what Ria did, right, She sustained the character change became bigger where we
have to see if liv can do that. So and I don't. I
don't know if Live can carry that for six months. Yeah, and that's
it's fine. Now you've got your revenge tour stuff going on. You got
your stuff with the Judgment Day, but okay, take over Judgment Day.
That's one thing. But then when it comes to your revenge toour, you
don't really have that many more people that you can revenge tour on and start
with. We talked about the raw women's roster. It's like who does she
go with? Now? Maybe Lyra, but like she's not how I feel
like Lyra live match, like at Money in the Bank Earl Yeah, at
Summer Slam and then what what after Lyral? Like who's these top? Like
I feel like the show brought some more females from NXT up for if I
guess they didn't know. I feel like I feel like the I mean,
the talk is that like once Roxan loses the title, she'll like get called
up, like I mean they called up Tiffany like with the Rumbles sort of,
I mean you could there was someone else. I feel like there's there's
people that they just like call up like silently, like the Creed brother Yeah,
like the Creed Brothers and Ivy Nole just like showed up one day,
but in September would come back as a face or would sho be a heel
that's a problem, Like yeah, maybe you switch her, but she's just
getting in this character now, so it's it's But at the same time,
that did happen with Rio, where she really didn't have any big women's programs
for like six months. For a while she was just the raw women's champion,
hanging out with Judgement Day having programs with dudes. Actually, so I
could see them do that would live where she like, she beats Maxine,
she beats Ivy, but then the whole story is really about her with the
guys. So yeah, well I'm looking in there's for Rea being on such
a hell there's not very many babyface women left. There's Maxine, there's you
could say Ivy, she's kind of let's you got, like I think it
was day one. You have an Alba, fire, Osca, Dakota Kai
Kaana Chance and Caden Carter, who I tend to forget are even on the
roster. Steel. Yeah, the baby face is the automatic move and then
there's tons of people on the roster for her face, so that's yeah,
it's gonna be interesting once we get more of that timetable with the tag,
the women's tag, I don't think any of them are. I don't have
much to saying that. I think just Jane Beyonc are gonna roll until I
don't know, at some point Beyonca accidentally hits Jade and then you know,
I mean, I've seen like I think the team to beat them as their
form, like Tiffany and Naya as a team. Really, I hope that
doesn't happen for Tiffany's sake. I like Niam More, but I just don't
want Tiffany get locked in the tag But you're not wrong that they like just
in terms of like like I think it individually technically or no, Tiffany didn't
beat Bianca, but I mean you I think, yeah, you can see
like you can you can have Jade like they're like, oh, they almost
want and then that's when Jade turns on her and then it's like, well,
like a credible team of Tiffany and I have the tag team. Yeah,
like championships now, yeah, that's just question win. But they they
got the win. I'm happy they got the Scottish people in the crowd.
Same thing with Bailey and Piper, like that'll be good man because I think
Piper is really underrated. Chelsea had some fun there, but I think they'll
have a good match. Bailey will win. I don't does anyone think any
of the Scottish people are winning this go round? And Drew? Yeah?
Other than true? Yeah, now what could be? What could be cool?
Again? Going back to going back to live, Nikki Cross is not
technically signed to a brand, that's true, right, and she's in the
Go Ahead. I think, yeah, that's supposed to one of the people.
I mean, we can go like those are people who could be in
stuff. I mean, but she would get the Scotland pop for sure.
Yeah. And then I don't know if she would be part of the Wyatt
six or whatever they're gonna call it. But if whether she's with that or
just herself, Alexa Bliss could be another good Live Morgan defense too, like
returning you heat her up for a little bit. I would like Alexa to
be with the Ye Group thing, because that was her best work and her
and Nikki were already a tag team in the past. Like I think you
could have some fun. You could have ale up like after a title defense
at Summer in Ohio. It's like your home state. That's true. Yeah,
all right. The only one we haven't talked about here Ages Styles versus
Cody Rhodes. I quit match, you know, finally I supposed not going
to get some main event pay per viewpoints with Cody Rhodes, but I drew
to Yeah, oh you, oh my goddess Louise. But yeah, so
brigg yeah, yeah you knew it. But what was I gonna say?
So they they ran back like literally be for beat. They ran back the
Mark Henry One, which like I liked enough. Like I said in the
discord, I was just hoping they did a little bit something different with it,
and they really didn't. It was just a rip off. But that's
fine. It's again like I wish it'd ripping off so that wasn't ten years
old the older. But whatever they did that, I do like that it
they want to do the AJ Cody match, it wasn't immediate because in the
like the aughts era, like AJ had that lot too, where he had
like Verse eight like knock amore a three pay per views in a row.
Yes, I love watching those like videos that people put up where it's like
ar wrestler, like every match card, like every johnsena match card. I
love watching those videos and like you go in like the twenty tens and he's
fighting like Rye back for like thirty seven row. So I like that they
did the AJ Cody Cody Paul and then back to AJ Cody, Like I
like that. I think it just feels a little more fresher. I like
that there's a stip on there too, because so many times in that era
it was just like and it was just like okay, it's an o dq
stip. It's like, no, dude, give us like a little bit
something and I quit that something fun. AJ will be the cowardly heel that
quits. I think they'll have a I think they'll have a really good match.
I don't people keep posting like Cody's gonna bleed a bunch. I don't
think so. Like I I feel like I feel like that would happen,
and like him being in the main slot, but who knows. But I
expect him to have a really good match, and I think it'll be lots
of fun. And uh yeah, obviously Cody's retaining. There's no way imagine
they just Barry bayface Cody quits. I mean I've seen people like where it's
like people say like, oh, Mark Henry should have won. So it's
like, oh, no, you should right, They're gonna right the wrong
with with a J winning or else not and I quit match. Just know
if they have Cody quit, that just bes tape recording of Cody saying I
quit, Oh yeah, like the MG Foley, Yeah yeah yeah, Mark
Henry should have won. I don't think ag Styles needs to win. I
think he should get like one more run. But that's where you draft I
quit, I quit w W and then he shows up at Slammiversary and yeah,
everyone wants that. Yeah. For me, it's like draft AJ to
Raw next year, give him a two to three month run with the World
aweight title that that to me is the final run and you can do punkin
a j They've never done that before, even though they've had some issues in
the past. So but I'm sure they'll be. He just said he's willing
to do it if it's money, right, So I feel like beating Cody
again to me, that's not the play until like I don't know, I
still think he's retaining past WrestleMania, like I think cod beating Cody won't be
an option to like next Summer Slam like Summer Slam, oh or twenty five
in my opinion, So I mean you can get like that's like, well
like bron Breaker Cody SummerSlam twenty twenty five once he's like built bron Breaker to
just like you you have bron Baker, like beat like Gunther and beat Randy
Ordan just for a year. Yeah. I also think Braun to me is
a prime example to get the money bank and then just spear the shit someone
and pin them easily. Like I the way he keeps coming and interfering,
I see like because I know sometimes they make it more the not cowardly heels,
but weaker heels use me in the bank. But I could just see
Braun just coming in and like destroying a person. I don't think the brown
Breaker character would care that he wanted because money in the bank. Like,
he's just a fucking powerhouse. So but yeah, Braun and Cody' that is
a good option. So what about you, Dave, What do you think's
happening with Cody and ag and what are your What are your thoughts on the
storyline so far? I've actually been loving this storyline where it's gone. I
like the little small weaving in of the fact that they have mutual friends and
other things like it's they don't fully expound on it, but it's just like,
you know, we know each other, There's there's an unspoken camaraderie of
outside of this organization and things like that we've done similar, things, we've
wrestled similar and them just building up to that Cody's story about the text message
after their last match and things like that. I think it's all been just
a good build up too. They're going to have a banger of a match
again, because their last one was once. I like I said, I
had to rewatch that one because I had that expectation of the Wiatsloman over there,
and once I could watch it in its own bubble, it was an
absolute banger of a match. And I think they're gonna do it again.
And yeah, I like when they add stipulations that aren't just no DQ.
Yeah, I think the no DQ is just kind of blase at this point.
That's a house shows. That's how that's like the crowd of puss like,
oh no DQ. But it's just like they're gonna use a chair,
they're gonna use one kind of stick at his table, and then that's it.
You know, I quit. There's actually some cadence and you gotta think
about, Okay, how can we do this match. It's not you're just
going through your sleep motions. And after doing the fake retirement in two and
I quit match, I think that's just perfect. Yes, that is a
good segue into doing that, going from the fake retirement to them just saying
well, let's have a TLC match or something like that, like yeah,
or like when they just have the monthly pay per views when it's like,
oh it's Hell in the Cell and sudden it's like the guy's just a number
one contender and they have no heat at all. But it's like we're going
to the most violent match of all time. It's like these guys don't even
like dislike each other. It's just like the ones, the guys that can
and there one's a champ. So this yeah, that quick. You're having
these gimmick matches because that's the name of the pay per view. Now get
with money in the bank, that works. But with Hell and is cell
it doesn't always work. When they had TLC didn't always work. Uh match
you have the chairs match? Yeah, I remember there was like two years
in a row where they called it TLCS table ladders, chairs and stairs stupid
and they had like a staircase match, like and then people always post that
photo because they're like they do like the breakdowns of each thing. It's like
the steels that it's like three thousand pounds, It's like what, Yeah,
I don't think fucking Samy Sing's lifting three thousand pounds steps come on now,
but yeah, yeah, all the game ass will we ever get a Ria
Bianca. Few those two can close resume and also they had feud in Likexy
Black and Goal. But to like a small amount, we will, I
think it's just I think we were yes, ever of course, yeah we
will will be the wrestle me. And I think that's the tough thing,
right because I think, like we were just earlier with the Four Horsewomen,
it was always like, oh, it's gonna happen one year, and that
just didn't and maybe it never will. I still think Hunter will try to
make it happen at some point, but there is a time where it's like,
ah, that might not happen. There's a chance where that happens,
like how like the Shield triple threat happened that like battle ground like that like
fast, Yeah, and that's what happened, right, it'll like and same
thing. The very first John scene of Roman Reigns was like out of no
mercy or something like, because they didn't know if they're ever gonna do it,
so should they just do of course, yes, I would like to
do Mania, but of course, and even it's not Mania, at least
make it one of the big four then, because yeah, it's not like
says it's lost away on like Great Balls of Fire or something like that,
like make it Yeah, isn't ball Joe? I think that. I think
it was brocking some Joe and that was the one where everyone thought Joe should
have won. He didn't, So I would say, if it's not Maine,
yeah, maybe that's what you do. One of those two nights at
twenty six is Beyond, because that is a that is a money feud,
but it's just injuries and other things. It's just I think this year it's
it could feel odd to just do rem BEYONC, Like it just doesn't feel
like they're on that trajectory now, and a couple months ago it did,
but now things change. But I think we'll get at some point for sure.
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a WrestleMania match. I think
the goal for Bianca going forward is going to be against Jade for WrestleMania.
That build, they're gonna work that. So if you're gonna do Ria,
it's gonna either be on a Summer Slam or a Survivor series. Maybe they're
both champions of their respective brands, but I don't see it being a WrestleMania
match at least not within the next two years. They might eventually get there,
but it's not gonna be anytime soon because Bianca is headed towards Jade,
and Ria's got some stuff to take care of when she gets back. And
that's the thing with Becky gone, with Charlotte doing more stuff there. I
feel like the Ria Blanca thing we all envision happening, like, oh,
they're the next people up, but it's like, no, now they are.
They are the up, they're the top. Now they're getting the next
generation, like the Tiffany's ready and the Jade's ready, you know, like
they've kind of evolved. So it's not that same. So I still think
it could be like the Rock in Austin in a way, you know,
get the my Way video and stuff like I think I do think that is
a club like all in the game. You're right, if that happens at
a Mania is a closer. But same thing with this year. It all
depends on the Rock, right, because I don't know insane thing with Punk,
like it's I hope the women close one show. I don't think Punk
should maine him at WrestleMania just to say that he did it. But you
know, whether it's true or Seth he could like it. I feel like
it's gonna be very touch and go when we get to January, because there's
gonna be lost of matches that could and I feel like it should go with
whatever's the hottest. You know, if Living Ria is hotter than Seth and
Punk, then they get the main event, not just because Punk, as
will I never get to the main event wrestling, It's like, no,
like if the crowd cares more about that, so we'll see And then,
uh, did you guys have any quick thoughts on King of the Ring?
Obnestly they crowned Nayat Gunther. Uh, we kind of went through like a
whole thing in our discord, like I think we all were always said on
Gunther women. I feel like we all changed pics a couple of times.
But I'm happy with uh Naya and I think the show overall was a really
really good show. I am excited for them to run back Gunther and Randy
at some point, because I did think that was the match to show Gunther
again just continues to be like just like him and fucking like, oh,
I won't say, I don't want to spell my aw crossover but there's just
like another guy where was just like it's just a guaranteed, like you're gonna
get at least a bar minimum. I feel like a four star on the
big stage matches. I'm not talking about like him versus like Kofi randomly on
Raw, but like when it's pay review, like what was it like versus
the is on like the Christmas episode of it's like a great match, Like
well, and that's what I want to ask you guys too with the thoughts
on King of the Ring, but also I supposed to I want to ask
you. I feel like the thing that the only reason we started to a
question off Gunther would win is the hole he gets a shot at Summer Slam.
How what do you book? Like your thoughts on King of the Ring
and Queen the Wing and also just like what are you gonna do with them
at okay because I said I had my whole booking plan. Yeah, I
want to hear you so winning money in the bank, So this is this
is what it is. I mean, like Drew versus Gunther, heal and
he'll that's like a very odd matchup. Already Drew Drew Gunther at SummerSlam.
Yeah, but not he'll heal right, it was Drew still babyface. Right.
So now, so Drew wins at clash despite Punk appearing somehow, so
he gives He's already said if he won, he'd give Punk a shot just
to show he's better at him. So you have the match at Money in
the Bank. Oh, that would be a tame full circle the Money of
the Bank. Yeah, okay, And so Drew, you know he beats
Punk at Money in the because he uses before he was being he was focusing
so much on Punk, he was loose. He's not paying attention to the
other person. But if he's one on one with Punk, he's fully focused.
But then that's the problem. He was so focused on beating Punk he
forgot about jay Uso winning in the bank. Jay Uso catches in on Drew
and beats him for the for the title, and then you you have non
title. You have non title Punk and Drew whatever stipulation you want, hell
l let's say, and then you have the the Goother j Trilogy for the
title at Summer Slam and Jays and three against and you have a title.
Right, you get the crowd at Summer do you know you have Jayson with
the title entrance at Summer Slam, and you have them with a few weeks
with the title and then yeah, he loves it and you get the title
reign, and then gnther gets it from j. I don't think that's like
a rivalry they've had, I mean Jay, they've had like a couple matches
and stuff, and then after I have a bit more here, I forgot
I wrote this. So you can build to Drew Punk three at like Survivor
Series or something, or you announce I don't know, I don't know if
there's a space missing for another show, like a payback or like an October
show or something like a payback or a Fasclane. Yeah, but you announce
one of those, like at the All State Arena in Chicago, you do
like a like a Chicago street fight Last Man Standing, Yeah, and then
that serious. So you either do that or like a Survivor Series matchup,
and that's the full Like Punk return one year ago at Survivor Series, and
you have the conclusion of this first feud for a whole year, because I
mean Drew walked out of the Survivor series. When Punk came back, they
have the full one year one year's story of that and yeah that's my jay
us so radomifications off he wins when in the bank, the jay Whu's the
thing is the thing I got the question not that I think it's bad,
because I think, like David said, like a big win is needed.
So I think if he wins money in the bank and the title back to
back, that that helps him. I really like the idea of Drew beating
Punk in the first scenario because I think everybody thinks Punks, I think in
the first first match, so I think you can cut from was like yeah,
like oh you're old, you're broken, body broken one. It makes
Punk the underdog because I think not nobody, but I think like the mainstream
wrestling crowd is just gonna expect Punk to beat them. So I think there
would be like that shock of like IM not saying it's like the streak breaking,
but just like wow, like Drew actually beat him and then Punk questions
himself. So I like that. I think you probably do a better scenario
because I think Jay versus Gunther is better than Drew versus gun Through because that's
just a weird matchup right now. Even though Drew's kind of a tweeer,
and I think you could actually have the bloodline help Goother win the title too,
Like that's how you get that back going as they they screw Jay at
it. So I'm not I'm not a posed. I think there is a
scenario where they have Punk be True and they want to run Gunther and Punk,
and they have Gunther. I wouldn't mind Squaw yeah, like brock sena
him, like just have just like gun Through destroy him some way, so
I think. But that's a good thing with Summerson is like I don't think
they give Punk, like it's too much a risk to give Punk the title,
But is that why you do it? Though? Just a month run.
That's that's where I always think Punk would win if you just have no
matches, yes, like promo and then they're like like Goldberg Brocky, Yeah,
Like I think Punk will win the main title at some point, but
I think it will just be a month run. My pitch was always he'll
win at the Rumble Hold the til Mania and the same thing, just not
talk. He'll just talk promo and everything. So that's where to me,
I need to know what Cody's doing because to me, if I guess Jay
did main event summers Well j Maine event SummerSlam last year with Roman. I
just wonder, is Jane and Goon through big enough to main event Summer Slam,
and that's where I'd go. Maybe they would go come through and punk
because that is a main event one. But I just don't know what they're
gonna have Cody do, And I really don't want to be fucking uncle Howdy
or whatever, Like I hate all these pitches. Aj cod thrice in a
life stages of three stages of hell, three stages of no DQ. You
know, he's gotten beat up by the OC and then Ricky starts runs out
and saves them. Okay, so David, where are your thoughts on you
know, Gunther king the ring and then what do you see the next little
bit here from now until the Summer Slam with trying to figure out how we
because like, does anyone think Gunther's losing at SummerSlam? Because I don't,
no, no, I mean they gave the direct like this is like the
new Royal Rump like for ever of this or not first ever move. It's
a long time. It's been twenty two years and this whole thing is like
he's establishing like how he how he saved the Intercontinental title. Now he's gonna
save King of the Ring, and like this is the new Royal Rumble,
the new elimination chamber for SummerSlam. And to mean gun Through is to say
a case where like the second he goes for a real title, he has
to win. Yeah, like you can't have him lose. That's why never
when people are fantasy booking like oh him and Cody at SummerSlam, I think
no way, because he's not beating Cody ring. I think down the line.
But but yeah, David, your thoughts. So this is where I
have everything with that. I have Drew winning. I clashed the test.
Well, he's gonna have the title. He is going to face Gunther at
some point, I'm guessing some time around Summerslim, because he's gonna hold that
belt for a good trunk of time Drew is and then once it's time for
Gunther and Drew to go at it, I think that's when Punk is going
to cost gun Through the title. And he's going to tell you it's because
he wants Drew. So he's gonna want to take that title off with Drew.
I think, can't wait to see Twitter that night. I can't wait
to see that would be something okay, so yep, So then Gunther and
Punk have a little bit of a program. I think Gunther destroys him out
the gate, and then coming back you have Punk eventually get the win,
probably buy some super creepy hill tactics going back to older Punk. Just I'm
sliming out that wind somehow, some way, all of this to set up
Punk versus Drew at Royal Rumble. I think that is where Punk is going
to beat Drew, and then I think that Drew will get it back at
WrestleMania. You have you will have them close out Night one of WrestleMania with
Drew winning the title the same way he started off Night one of the previous
year or not, and so this time you actually have him or night two
of the press year. This time he goes home with the title. Punk
gets to main event a knight, so he checks off that box. Drew
gets his WrestleMania moment. He checks off that box. See, I think
the only thing for me with your plan with the Gunther thing is still crazy
to me that that's like I'm trying to imagine like Punk pulling Gunther out of
the ring like like solo style, like black Man, huge guy. Yeah,
So for that, the only thing I wonder it would be a question
mark is what happens with Seth. And to me, if with your scenario,
the only thing I'd like better is if Seth won the Rumble and they
did the triple thread at Mania and they did the Drew Punk Seth And I
think I think if Seth's healthy, he's getting the big w at wrestling because
he was a broken man. He was skulling Bowen's on the floor. And
I feel like Seth, whether he fights Punk when it's for the title,
I think Seth, if he's good to go, he's got to get the
title, even though Drew should get you know, Drew's getting his moment at
Clash, you know, so that thing where it's like I could see them.
Yeah, I'm definitely okay with that. I just think Punk loses the
title at wrestling, they're going to give him his moment. I think he's
not walking out as the champion. That Rumble plan was like the like I
think, like said like punks champion, Seth wins and Rumble and Seth beats
him at wrestling yeah, like I think I think that's one of the options.
That's very likely. Yeah, And that's why I wonder too with Punk
the other time, if it's not Rumble, if there's any some pay per
view coming up, and do we have a location for Rumble yet? This
year? I think it was like rumored, like it was just in some
random not Minnesota. But like I mean they did the thing at the Minnesota
in Vegas, like they can like give them, give them a rule twenty
twenty seven and we'll get We'll get Chicago's that's what. Yeah, get Rumble
for Chicago. That's what I'm saying, get punked when the time I think
next year, like any of these upcoming paper like it's not gonna be Survivor
series again, but I mean, any we're getting another Chicago and like soon
if Punk it's gonna be there. Yeah. All right, Well we'll see
what happens. So let's let's turn the corner and we'll go over to the
to the Tony Converse. We'll see the learning tree all this stuff. So
we had double or nothing happened. I think I agree with s Bubbs David,
because you didn't get we'll get your thoughts because I didn't actually you watch
it later on. But I agree with SBUs where it was like it was
like a fine show. I think there was some good matches, but I
think much like other people, it's not that's too long. I think it
is too long, but it's too long with stuff that's not needed, but
it's stuff we've probably for, like the Jericho stuff, and there's other one.
There's like the for the wretch of people like me who like don't watch
it like that often, yes, like marginally no, Like there's some stuff
that I was in, like it's like it'll be one good thing and then
one thing I don't really care about, Like it was like Orange, Cassidy,
Math and Trent and I was like I don't really care about this at
all, and they don't do next. I think next was like Tony Storm,
and then I was like, Okay, this is pretty good, and
then back to like Jericho and I'm like, okay, this is not good
again. And my biggest my biggest complaint, but one of my biggest complaints
with the pay per views has been that they their video packages are still never
they've never even had their one my Way, you know, like that's some
of the biggest fun like WW like they're always but especially in like the early
two thousands, they were killer with their video packages and even outays. I
think they do some really good ones. I really like that. I've rewatched
like the Roman Cody wrestling. Yeah, I was really good. We're aw
they have zero of those. They have no video packages. It's literally just
restret risler b. This is why they're fighting. It's just like I need
a good song, I need some good editing. It's just it's the only
good one has been and I will stick by this. Hangman versus Kenny,
and it wasn't even for the title match. Now that intro was good with
him going down the empty streets of Minneapolis, but the only good one.
So it was Hangman versus Kenny. But it was in the match. It
was the the five on five grouping and it was Hangman in the Dark Order,
and they had that intro where they all had the Cowboy silhouette. It
was them, but their shadows had cowboy hats and they were riding with Hangman,
and then they did the intro where as the music hit, they would
throw up the Dark Order symbol and then Hangman was last and they're all wearing
purple bandanas and things like that. That was a good video package going into
that match, and that that's the gold standard. But that was for a
random five one five that just decided that, hey, if he loses,
the Dark Order doesn't get a tag team match, which they lost like the
whole time. Aw, like what they're five or how they're five years old?
Now, yeah, they're five years They should have been able to make
a video package that would make people like s Pubs invested in Sammy or not
Sammy Orange and Trent because like they've been together the whole time. There's so
much story to tell there, like the and these team together like that.
But it was just like a, oh, Tren's match, he turns on,
Now here's the match. It's like there should be a whole like people
they're saying that, they're like there's no time, like these these paperies are
so long, but there's no time to rest, like Chris Statlander turning on
Willow and then like it shows them for like three seconds. Yeah, and
that's why they need to cut a couple matches. I think there's at least
forty five minutes of the main show that could have been cut. There was
over twelve minutes for the Bang Bang Gang versus Death Triangle. That cool match,
but really didn't need to be on the pre shows show. Orange Cassidy
and Trimpretta went for fourteen minutes and they right after them. Well, you
went from Orange Cassie and Trent Barretta to Chris Jericho and Hook, which was
twelve forty five. Tony Storm went right before Orange Cassie. So you went
from this great match to then those two bump matches and then John Moxley after
that. Yeah, and mox everyone was just pissed out in New Japan because
the whole like politics of it and everything like that. So yeah, yeah,
so that's that's easily between that and again your advertisements for DraftKings and then
your unneeded backstage segments like I love Renee Piquette, but sometimes they do too
many backstage segments. You don't need one before every single match, like do
it for the big ones, call it a day, or set up something
for later. But yeah, you got a two hour pre show and you
only had two matches totaling twenty two minutes out of your two hour. Appreciate
Jano and Done Rosa. Then you had the Acclaimed versus the Gates of Agny,
Like you could have put Orange, Cassie and Trimperetto on there, especially
since you're not really building that match that much. And definitely Chris Jericho and
Hook could have went on there because that three way match was it was just
there. Yeah, And like, don't get me wrong, I actually I'm
I don't. I think Jericho is doing the right thing. I'm not trying
to like say it's good. That's not what I'm trying to say, because
like it's it is messed up. But like, if Jericho has to be
on TV, I think leaning into and doing this stuff I think is the
way to go. I think it is smart than making the heel. It's
not too much stuff that I'm interested in, and it usually is the the
commercial break bathroom breaks stuff. For me. I'm happy Hook is away.
Like you tweet about s Pubs. He seems to be in the in the
Joe Vortex Nowns. It's like that's good, so good. It was like
some like mixtion stuff like that. As I said, I'm on the bandwagon.
That's someone like I think Hook, I'm he needs to go to next
t I hope that does happen. I think he like a do a couple
more bangers here at AW but then he can go over there. But uh
yeah, I always appreciate Tony says like he makes these cards big because he
knows people spend money on the pay per views and the crowd, so like
he wants to give them their money's worth. But sometimes it's like too much
is too much, and like I don't think the Jericho FDW match is like
that's money's worth, you know, that's like all Chericho ass be. I
like, that's just you saying that. But I do think transition to the
next show, I think they are gonna kind of not make up for it,
but I think Forbidden Door is gonna be like a banger banger because they
this this card. I got to pull it up. But I want to
get David your first thoughts on the main event, because I think this is
much like when I say, like, oh, if they do Drew and
SummerSlam or sorry, Drew and Gunthart SummerSlam, I'm like, what's what's gonna
happen here? They are doing Asprey and Swerve at Forbidden Door, which seems
very odd to me, I like the old not the only good thing.
I think the most good thing is it is a big match, Like it
is one of those when you have a champion and you put defenders up there,
like we knew Christian wasn't gonna win, right, This is a match
where you no one can for sure say Swerve's gonna win. So I think
that's always a good thing to have with a title of defense at times.
But what are your thoughts and like, what is your scenario here? Because
it's like people are like, oh, Will's won that title, they internationally
keep him away from the main title, but now no, he's won his
second Gauntlet match, which is great, but now he's versus the Swerve.
So what's what's gonna happen here? This match is not gonna end clean.
I'm just as it's not gonna end clean. I won't say that there's either
gonna be a debut or a return happened. This match is not gonna end
clean. This match is gonna be a great match, don't get me wrong,
but this is this is a setup match. This is a we're giving
you a bang of a wrestling match, but we're also setting up for something
else. So either someone is going to return and challenge Swerve, or someone's
gonna debut and go after Osprey. It's gonna be one or the other,
and it's gonna there's gonna be a settle. You just have Osprey win everything
like you haven't lose here, you haven't win every title shot like you haven't
loose here. Then he wins the Owen Cup Shohn to Swerve again. So
I don't mind that scenario because it's tough, because I think there's a good
scenario of Hangman coming back in screen Swerve, But I feel like, don't
even piss people off a Swerve loses already, like he didn't even paper,
Like he can't he can't lose the title already. And that's the problem with
throwing this will Ospray now. So unless you have someone waiting in the wings
to return or challenge or whatever else, that's the only way that I can
see you doing this right now. Like Swerve can't lose clean to Will Osprey.
Osprey can't lose clean right now because he isn't on such an upwards trajectory,
Like you gotta set these guys up. So if you have somebody who
interferes and things like that. Then that also gives you opportunity to run this
match back at a later pay per view and say, hey, we never
got to finish our match. You still owe me one. I know I
can beat you. Yeah, that's that's interesting. I want because like,
aw does they did a lot of air inference last year. You're funny enough
talking about but like I feel like they I guess, I guess in my
money, Yeah, they just don't do too many screw finishes like yeah counts
and kis, but they do do interference. But I'm gonna play Del's advocate.
I'm gonna hope that they just have a match and Swerve just beats them
and then they make Asprey like have to climb up and that's like an insta
fee down the future when Osprey wants to get the title. I don't think
they will because I also just don't think beating Osprey right now is the right
play. But I I don't. I don't know if this match is the
right play. It is in the sense to me like, oh, it
makes a huge Like I said, I think it is a match that people
could be talking about, and it is interesting to see what's gonna happen and
it's a great main event and they're gonna have good chemistry. They've restled before,
but I don't know now, but I'll say he just beats him clean.
But I don't feel good about my prediction. I don't feel good and
because I don't know what they do. And like I said, I do
not want to see the internet off Swerve gets beat already because I feel like
that's uh because I think a good as don kallis so like run into the
ring and like punch ye just a TQ. Yeah, and maybe yeah Callous
could screw him, but I just because I feel like it's it's like that
punk thing of oh just to main event WrestleMania. I feel like if Swerve
lose it already, people are just gonna say, oh aw, you just
had to win so he could be the black the first Black World Champion and
then took it off them, you know, Like I feel like that will
be a huge criticism against that company. And you can't say, like no,
because like double or nothing, he didn't main event and and I really
liked the matter with him and Christian. I thought him and Christian a goodchemistry.
Christian always delivers so I thought that was a solid one on that show
wasn't like a five star, but I thought it really delivered. But I
yeah, like you're probably right day with the interference now that I think about
it. But I'm gonna hope that or just beats him clean and then maybe
that's like a big that's a big thing for Swerve. You know, if
he beats well Osprey clean, you know, that's that's huge. You know.
Now Here's here's the other half of that is. I think that if
it is a debut, I don't think it's gonna be an a e W
debut. I think it's gonna be a crossover debut only because Roman w W
is running their own stuff right now, and you know, Tony is like,
I'm the original of the crossovers, So who would to you? But
what's if there's already new Japan starts, Like who's big enough to like make
an impact that's gonna no pun intended, but like who's gonna come in there
and be like, man, I'm huge that he'd like costs Osprey the title?
Right? That puts the shark? Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't
know. Yeah, now that that's a tough one because you also have to
figure out someone who is the crowd would also no, I mean for an
a W crowd. I feel like if it's like from like you could get
like a lot of people in the crowd, would that Yeah, no,
that they'd be helping us the screw screw swerve over. Yeah. Yeah,
other than maybe Nito. I don't see anyone who's big enough. And Nito's
book for match now. They announced last night at New Japan it's him and
Moxley two for that and I think they're gonna have Nightel beat him and yeah
they announced that. And then also yesterday and they announce they're doing Orange and
Zach Saber Junior, which is gonna be really good. I know about the
Orange and Zach Saber Jr. I'm not sure about mox and Nito. I
don't know if there's styles would be good on that they're doing it that one,
but I think that's I think the Moxley New Japan things kind of done
now like that not experiment, but like he got to win the title.
That's happy and yeah, you got that going on so far the matches,
I got time with Tony Storm versus Mina Shakira, which has been like super
fun story. I love that Maria Ma had that challenges poster like that's just
like has been just gold in this thing and Mariah, like Tony Storm is
popular, but I feel like Mariah May is like set, like I think
they have another star on their hands if she's getting a lot of bay face
stuff her even losing to Sarriah good Again. With Sarriah, people are just
they're fucking weird about her. I don't know, like the hate that people
have for some of it, I think might be warrant. Some of them
might be like I still think like very like bully mentality stuff. It's weird
because like I think I'm in the opinion of Miriam should lose to her.
She's still knew her. Sarriah is like a multiple time champion in the promotions,
like when we're like, oh my god, this is the worst booking
decision since it's like, what like Maria Mays not the fucking like like the
gunther of the Woman's division. She's like Tony's ditzy girlfriend, Like what you're
not bringing in Okada here, Like yeah, it's Mariah May, Like that's
right. Some people, it's like I don't like that. They're way too
big of a deal that and I think that's a good thing. Mariah Ray
to eat some losses and she is which I think they're doing. She's in
the Owen, So I think we're gonna get her and Tony at Wimbley and
man that it's gonna be like some really good stuff. I think. I
do like the fact that right now it is listed Timeless Tony Storm with Luther
and Mariah May versus Minka with Mariah May like she's listed as the valet for
both sides. And again, this whole thing has been great. I don't
see Timeless Tony Storm losing this. But I think that the match is gonna
be great in the story that's happening in the match is gonna be just the
best part of it. And where why can I not think of the match?
David? It was Kenny versus somebody and Coda was on the sidelines and
remember that started Coda Hinge back together. Oh, I can't remember what it
was, but it was. It was a really good New Japan match.
I'll try to look out after. But it was just like the inkling of
like what is oh no, I think it was it Coda and Age.
I can't remember. I think it was Coda and Ajane. Kenny was on
the sideline, and it's one of those where it's like same thing, like
what do you do? And that was like the best example of someone stuck
in between a rock place of like the former ex boyfriend and then like the
bolt Club leader. I'll look it up. I think it was aj and
Coda and that's what the Maria May. I think she's gonna she's gonna be
the crux of this match. I think it's gonna be really good. I'll
find that information though. And then the last other for bin more matches are
you got Mona versus Stephanie uh a curve care. I don't know how to
stand. I've never seen Stephanie Wressel, so I'm excited to see that.
And then you also have the men's vacant eighteen t match because Edge dec I
had to break his fucking ankle or whatever by jumping off that cage. Man,
you got the same pop uf you jumped off the top rope, promised
me like it. You didn't need it. You had gangrel under there,
you didn't need it. But right now we got h Takeshta, Mark Briscoll,
Lee Moriari, Dante Martin. So far it's like a lot of high
flyers. I hope they just give it to Kotshka and he just like becomes
a workhorse the next month and everything. But I mean I looked up,
but yeah, s pubs, we didn't get your thought What are your thoughts
on the Swerve and Will thing? What's your if you got a fancy booking
there? Okay? So it was by the way, it was aj versus
Coda for the IWGB title, and people that don't know, Coda and Kenny
were a tag team and they're like in canon like boyfriends. But they had
broken up and it was like the first time they'd seen each other in years,
and Coda was gonna go do a move and Kenny went to the ring
side to stop him, but then he couldn't and he liked back down.
It was like this huge dramatic thing, and I think they're gonna place on
that back. But yeah, your thoughts on anything else, aw, but
then specifically Swerve and Osprey there, I haven't like, honestly, I think
it could go like I don't. I don't think it ends with Swerve beating
Osprey clean. But I don't think it ends with like Swerve cheating, like
if something it'll be like it'll be like don Kell's stuff, like something Osprey
does. But I think it'll be it'll be a great match probably. And
who do we got that, Like maybe Don Cols has to have somebody,
because well we got like Kyle Fletcher, we got like I don't think they're
gonna have fucking Trent and Osprey at Wimbley, Like I like, I like
Trent. I think he's underrated, but I feel like you got some stuff
with like the the Tiger Driver thing. Yeah, but he had all this
dr he had all this drama, like he doesn't want to hit it because
what it did to Danielson. But then like a week later, Danielson was
doing like a death match on Collision. So it's like he really didn't really
injure him that badly that you're like, screw. I mean he was like
five days later. I mean, I don't think you scared doing it.
But yeah, uh and then what else? And I was gonna say,
what do we So we have the Owens coming up for the men, so
we're all thinking Swerve is gonna win. Who do we have I still think,
as some people don't like this, I still think there's two options that
it's either Swerve and Jack Perry for the Mega Heat, and I think maybe
I don't think you have Jack win, but I think there is like a
scenario like that's I actually think you could hold out for us Waite and have
Hangman screw there and Jack win. But I do like that scenario. People
are pointing out doing the Brian versus Swerve Wimbley like a title versus career source
scenario, even though Brian Naelson has or yeah, Brian Nalson's completely walked it
back, like well, I'm just like retiring from like a full time contract.
I'll probably still gonna wrestle. And even though his wife this week on
the podcast he's like, yeah, I don't really believe him at all.
So it's like, how legit. I feel like we're in for a dry
from every match to just every monthly papery. Yeah, or like I wonder
if he's just gonna be a free agent, and I would love like imagine
the fucking January Royal Rumble. The music hits and it's him and he has
like one big WrestleMania match and he goes somewhere else. But I actually do
think Swerve and Brian Brian versus Cody at Wrestling All, yeah, i'd be
great, That'd be fantastic. But I think Brian Swerve is a good option
for Wimbley. Even though they could do it Wrestle Dream, which is in
Seattle. I'm not gonna get to go this year because I got stuff planned,
so I'm bummed about that. But that could be great because they're both
from Washington. But that is a win win for everybody involved if you do
them in Seattle, Like, the crowd's gonna be hype for whoever, there's
not going to be a peer Babyface Heeled Dynamic because the crowd is just gonna
They're just gonna be excited for the match. It's gonna be a great match
and everyone is gonna get an amazing reaction. So yeah, if you're gonna
do those two, save it for wrestled Dream and I want to do a
Wimbley. Then at this point is Jack. I think you you could do
Jack, And the way that you could do Jack is I don't think Jack
earns it. I think Jack is given it by the EVPs. But okay,
so then then I feel like we have to do that later on because
they said the Owen will get the number one contender, right, so then
that would be and he is I think I think Jack is going to be
in the tn T Ladder match, and I think he is. Yeah,
I think he could probably win that too, And then to catch is okay,
so it's not Jack, it's not Brian. I mean a laugh.
If Swove Swerve just loses clean and it's just awspray at Wimbley with the title
and we're fancy even for no reason. I really don't know. I think
we had this discussion last month, Like I just really don't know who Swerve
could face to be like the main match, you know, because you don't
want you need. I guess MJF is a it is an option. Yeah.
I don't like him winning the going the Learning. I don't I don't
like m jeff winning the Owen. There just feels something weird about him winning
like the Owen cop Like, I don't like it just doesn't fit. But
MGFF and Swore with m Jeff losing would be that is a good option to
do unless mj is gonna be like a Miro now not want to take Pinfalls
or something. He's gonna be like, I only swerving a steel cage.
Yeah. So yeah. When they first started, Puck wouldn't do certain matches
because he was the open the dream Gate champion and he was like, no,
as long as I'm the champion in dragon Gate, like, I'm not
taking Pinfalls. So that's why him and Hangman's match got bumped because he wouldn't
take the loss. I love AW. I'm all for creative freedom, but
I don't understand. I don't know everything, so granted I'm speaking out of
my ass, but if this shit is true with Miro and Black, like
this is some of the dumbest shit ever, and like I agree, like
that would never fly in WW unless you're like Hogan ninety like and Okay,
I get it. That's the rumor that Roman and Paul said he wasn't the
time. I'm even fine. I don't think that's the right thing to do.
I think it should still be creative, but I even get that one,
Like, hey, Roman's the guy, fucking Malky Black should be eat
If he's losing edge, he should eating the pin. You know, he
didn't have to, like, yeah, he passed out in like Miro is
just like killing his career right now by sitting home doing nothing. I don't
know what's going on Ricky Starks. But like again, AW, I have
been liking recently. They still have their issues though in some of these talent
things, and you know, and mg but I also don't think MGF is
that guy. MGF has taking tons of losses and everything. He let Wardlow
squash. Remember two years ago they had him do the Brocolesard thing where he
just came in there Wardlow power bombing for five minutes and he lost. And
that's why MGF was like hopefully going to WW at the time. So like
MJFF, he doesn't because I'm just smart because like no one gets like if
malclie back, we're to fucking take a pin from Edge, no one's man.
If he goes to b he's not over anymore, Like if that's the
dumbest ship, Like so how much times Brian's lost, Brian's lost, like
he's like to Zowaw, like this fucking main roster record in Big Match doesn't
want to win and it doesn't matter. He makes the matches great and it
doesn't matter if he loses, because he's still over and you're still like if
he does win, then it's like it means that much more like the whole
loss thing. Losses do matter, of course, but not just like if
you lose against Edge or Wedder, like that's not gonna fucking like, it's
not gonna go against you. And again everyone's the same things been like man
like, Edge's not putting over the talent. This is the guy that everybody
in their mother knows wants to go back to fucking Wwe should Edge be losing
this guy? No? Edge should have lost the Finn Balary years ago,
yes, but should he lose to the guy that the secondest contracts up Malacholi
blacksn fucking portaled back to Connecticut. No, that's not Ed should be putting
over like it's just like simple logic of like if Malcholi Black came back and
he had a fucking aw tattoo on his heart, then sure, but he's
not. He's he's he wants to go back to WW and play with cats
with his wife like he's he's looking for the next train out of there.
He did his thing, but he's gone, and I promise you. I
guarantee you he's gonna go back. And I'm not saying he's gonna send out
a fucking Andrott tweet next speech, Champion, But I just feel like there's
there's too much time. I don't think he's gonna be as oh. I
think it's like Andre Androtti, he thought he's gonna come back and be hot.
Shit, it won't be because there's other people at WW that stayed or
new that are more bigger than Andraddy, more bigger than Black. So it's
like it's not the grass. Yeah, same thing as Buddy Murphy. Like,
it's not gonna happen. The AW is the place where you should be.
You can fucking wrestle five star matches. You can't cut a promo save
your life. AW is perfect for you make that money there, And I
get it. If he wants to be out, that's fine. I get
that. But if it's the whole like star thing, I guess that's the
one thing. Because we are talking about him, David, what have you
thought about MGFP and back so far? What do you think about You know,
you pulled the Cody Rhoades mentor a questionable tattoo, But as I said,
Emmon were watching, he was smart because he got it over where his
wrestling boot would cover it. So he's still smart. You know. He
got it somewhere that can be covered up both with his clothes and somewhere that
later can be covered up if he does ever decide to switch over eventually to
get the Darby face tattoo. Yeah. I liked many Triple H's return.
I like, I do like the jacket with the broidery on the back.
I think that's a good way to lose the scarf and like carry the gimmick
over, you know. Yeah, so it's a good way for him to
re establish himself. I like the fact that they had the quick ending to
the dam Cole stuff because edm Cole's not coming back anytime soon. He's still
injured. He still it's going to be a while. He was walking back.
It's like, oh man, that's a that's another thing. Also,
like that Osprey match had so much intersperience that double or nothing. It was
like, yeah, the ref was like blind and death, Like there's like
thirty five guys in the ring like beating up. Then the next segment they
just like, yeah, that was bad. Aw tends to let things go
referee wise, but that was a little bit too much, but not on
him, like he's staring down the ref, like having a full on stare
down with the ref, Like what what is going on there? To me?
If if the ref turns around and Wardlow like Osprey's in Warlow's crotchboat get
power bomb, that's a TQ like it's over. Like they're like, well,
what are you doing? And we're like, oh, I don't know,
Like no, that's just over, like there's no like, yeah,
you can't touch the participant like that. We all know that. So I
don't know, but I think that m JF has a good path ahead of
them, losing that, getting less of the brochot Joe stuff and all that,
just getting back to the guy with the mike who's just talking all the
trash and I'm anxious to see it. I think that he can do so
much more and I just want to see him talk trash on anyone. I
love a good MJF promo, especially now that he's no longer in his best
Buddies phase, Like let him just rip some people and go to town.
Get that promoting online and then MJFF flock yeah, it's it's tough, because
he replied that when he's ink yeah, yeah, I'm still I think not
it's not as bad as a Sarayah thing. I do think M Jeff's tweet
was a little bit true of like, hey, everyone loves it and you
turn on. That's pro wrestling, right, everyone will turn We'll see about
Cody one day. But like, I think Cody's a little bit different because
it's just eventually, sure people boo Cody, but I don't think it's like
the way people think they're gonna rebel against like Sina did. But but m
Jeff, I think it is like, U, Okay, people thought he
got oversaturated, but majority of the people still really enjoying me. Is still
really good. He does, and as I've said before, keep booing the
guy out the building. He's gonna go to w and he's gonna become this
fucking massive star like Cody and everyone, like fans are gonna look like idiots.
The same thing as Punk too. It's like and even to myself,
I thought, hey, can punk even working a V So far it's going
great with the talent emerged. So I still think like AW is better with
mjff in it. I think if they lose him, that will be a
big loss. And they're gonna lose him, I promise you, and that
contracts up he's out of there. But I don't think he's like Malachai Black,
who's gonna be like, oh, I'm fucking better than everybody, like
I ain't. I ain't lose until my last match. Like no, I
think MGF legitimately does love AW. I do think it does come out of
money, but I think there's just like you said, what he's twenty eight,
Like, I think he's not gonna never want a career where he never
goes to WW. I don't think he's like Omega or like early nineties sting,
like I think he's gonna want to scratch that itch. There are thousands
of programs for MGF to have at WW. I know, okay, I'll
say hundreds, maybe not on thousand, but like there's so much he can
do. M jeff is gonna have a WrestleMania match in his career, yes,
Like there is a rumble Pop waiting for that motherfucker right there, Like
that moment they're like him and Cody, Like there's so much so I think
that's why it's like if you just legitally just don't like the way he wrestles
his promos, then fine, But like if you like him and you're kind
of critical, I would say, just enjoy it because he's gonna he's gonna
leave. I think I really think he's gonna go, So enjoy this.
I think RUSH is like a good first program, but nothing amazing. Rush
is like the Andrade w where he's just there to have like some matches here,
but he'll just eat a pin and he'll be gone for months again,
and then it's like, oh, I'm the bull of the Horns. It's
like nothing, it doesn't mean anything. You lose all time, the big
matches, you know. So I think the thing that's in service of MJF
leaving is what The Rock did with Cody, because that was always to talk
like this time last year, right, was that MJF isn't gonna go because
he can't be he can't be in a PG environment. Yeah, you can't.
And The Rock has proven Okay, if you let them know ahead of
time what you're gonna do and how you're gonna do it, they know what
to bleep and when to bleep it and things like that. To me,
sure, I don't think the Rocks for a lot of the stuff is telling
them that I think that, and like it's the Rock and they're not gonna
fire the Rock. He might have said have your finger over the button,
but he probably didn't say I'm gonna drop it here and there. And plus
though to your point, David, they are going to Netflix though, right,
so that will that will help them out a little bit. But yeah,
and then the ability to do some of those promos off network, So
the stuff that The Rock did online and things like that's in what you want
to say. That's again, that's perfect for MJF. You can get across
your point. You can say the worst that you want to say, the
things that you felt restricted about two years ago. That door's open now.
And just in general, you still be MJF in this other company, So
why why wouldn't you do that? Yeah, and just in general, the
whole program is like more or less PG right, Like no, they're not
everyone's like Finn balads out. They're dropping f bombs like The Rock, but
like just in general feels more less Kiddy and family they have that still,
So I agree, I think he's gonna go and I think, like I
know Triple H will do his stuff like oh you don't like they're not making
it till they hear. But I think m Jeff has a point of like
again, who were they channing when they're internew Triple like he is like he
is gonna be the big I know. That's like that's the only person.
I mean, it works. They has a good, good three letter chandler.
But I mean that's like you hear those chants like a couple of times,
like there's no one else really from another company. I think now that
they like people are channing and they know. I think even if you don't
watch AW, you know who MJF fits. Yeah, And it's like people
are gonna chant the elite or mega because they know they're not going over their
life. Are still that thing like crashes a burn and WW will put him
in the Hall of fame like thirty years from now like they did the WCW
guys when AW like Tony, I don't know, I don't know what's gonna
happen. They like hopefully's survived. I do think we'll walk the way till
the TV rights happen. Because I think Tony would literally just make a streaming
service of just aw and just like it's still gonna happen no matter what.
But you never know. But yeah, I suppose with you, what do
you think about MGF so far since he's been back. I mean, yeah,
I've seen like the promos segments. I've liked them so far. I
mean, I've always heard good things about mjf's promos and stuff. I do
think he has a style like like people say, like it's not as much
as like this is, Like I don't think it's as formula like as people
say. I mean there's there's some stuff he does like sort of hit the
beats, but I do think I do like his promos a lot. And
I mean that's what he did so far and ruche. I mean, I
don't know, it's like it seems like not like a weird pick, but
it's just like Okay, it's just like a guy and mgf's gonna gonna beat
him. Yeah, it's a warm up. It's it's definitely a warm up.
I think this is like I think maybe it could have even been that,
Like MGF came back earlier than expected, so this is just sort of
like well we think of like what your big thing is gonna be, Like
this will get you on TV, you'll have your matches and then we'll see
what what the next thing for MJF is Now Ruche will just squash him and
then baby faced immediately again. Yeah he's an underdog. Yeah, yeah,
we'll see them. Jeff is tough because like he was trying to say,
like I'm gonna be bad again. But it's like I think he is at
the point that I don't know if he's gonna get boot even if he's like
a full heel again. Like I think it's I think wwe can because he
can be in aw especially like you could be. You can just like I
mean with the Swerve and Hangman thing, like he was like in Hangman's house
with his baby and stuff, and he was like the baby face. Yeah
I know, cheer. He was like threatening his family and now he's like
the third biggest baby face of the comedy rights. It's like because that was
my mind, like, oh, I'd actually like to see MGF maybe win
the Owen. I don't think he would like cut some terrible promo on the
hearts, like I like that's the only thing I could see to get him
back to like kind of promo on Martha, but like, no, I
don't, I don't even know if I want that, but like I think,
I think that's like the only way you could do it is like he'd
have to win the Owen and just like disrespect Owen heart. But then even
then people like man, that was so fucking energy, like look, and
but that's why I'd love if like MGF could be back to like heal territory
and swerve it wimbley, that'd be great. But yeah, it'll just kind
of be a tweener, I think. So yeah, yeah, that's pretty
much it. I said, I'm looking very forward to Zaber Zach Saber Junior
an Orange Cassie because Orange always delivers in like those Forbidden Door ones like him.
And that's one time Sbub's on your list of matches, you put will
Ospray and Orange Cassie, that's when you should put because that's like Orange Castie
could always wrestle. But people, I think finally started to realize he could
because he even myself was like, oh, that's the match Osprey's getting for
Forbid Door. They had really nobody else. And then they delivered like a
banger one. So but yeah, I think I think both uh Clash and
Clash think it's gonna be good in americacause the crowd's gonna be great. For
bin Door, it's gonna be great because of this. And then after you
got money of the bank in Wimbley, so it's like some really good shows
coming up. And then they got all In Now, they moved like I
think it's like two weeks after all Out now or all out is after all
In Now, which is still I know, it's still not great. I
don't think that's a good way to build it. But uh, speaking of
for Biden Door, so now we have our three crossover matches, so we'll
go one by one. There we go over like the NXT Battleground, like,
oh no, we didn't know is that no, we didn't think I
meant to have them in the Free Agency? Yeah? Today? Is it
tonight? Okay? So tonight? Okay, good, So I'll watch that's
looking like a really good card. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna watch some
show because I seen Return of the King Knight, but I watched the rest
tomorrow. But yeah, you got Jordan Grace in x T alsosly happened a
couple of weeks ago, rumblings of more stuff, rumblings of NXT appearances in
the next teen a pay per view and stuff. So I'm really excited for
Race and Roxanne. I guess Page and Trick is made eventing, right.
I think they haven't announced the They NFT always waits a long time for the
like they'll announce the main event on like the day. Yeah, and that's
I think Page to me great higher. I really liked his first year running
a w and then after I kind of trickled down, but I think he
he actually was like he could be a really more suited WWE guy, Like
I think that could work out for him. Well, so I think that
was a good way to debut. And I like the whole. Oh,
I'm not signed to a contract email he was, But I like that whole,
Like, Yeah, I'm looking for U this and this and like Race.
I think Race when she I've not seen a bunch of her stuff.
I've seen stuff in here and there. But in the Rumble last year or
this year, she was like one of the top three for performances. She
looked great in there. She looked better than some other people come from the
PCs, so I actually think I like Roxanne from my sand I think her
and Roxander are gonna have a really really good match, like it could be
the match and anything kind of easily. And I'm all down for this nxdteen
A stuff. It's really strange that it's like you would ask me ten years
ago, I would have Sai teenage probably gonna be dead, but it's still
holding on and I love it. I'm not the Internet that thinks like,
yeah, this is gonna lead to a W and w D right now.
I think, you know, you never know down the line, but I
love that they are doing this stuff, and yeah, definitely get Alexander over
here. There's a lot of people, but yeah, I think it's very
cool they're doing it, and it makes NXT stock goes up because there's more
eyes on that show, evenough last week you know it was the secret meeting
room and nothing happened, but you know that happens sometimes with rumors. But
yeah, yeah, I'm really excited for this show. I think it's gonna
be really good, Like from what I've seen of Jordan Grace, like,
I think it's gonna be a great match with Rock Sand. I want Jordan
Grace to win. I think win though. I think it'd be a big
moment if Jordan Grace wins. Yeah, that'd be huge. I want Jordan
Grace to win. She's she has been consistently great on TENA, Like she
revamped her entire parents from when she started with them, and she's just been
killing it for them and holding them up in their women's division, and like
I want to see her continue to do great in that aspect. Mm hmm.
Yeah, I think it'd be great because again, I guess just the
design thing everyone's just on rumors, Julie is just gonna come into her fucking
like first match when the next Team Women's Championship that's in the rumor for like
months. Yeah, like she's just gonna like squash Rock Sam for the title.
I guess I don't I don't know I feel about that, but uh
yeah, I give Grace a little ron. That'd be fun. I don't
think they'll happen, but as we've said in the disc where, I think
Grace is WW bound soon because they keep they could have used another TEENA town,
but they don't so far. They just keep going back to Grace I
think they hopefully will use someone else, but yeah, I think she's she's
gonna be bound there and she'll fit in well with like Jadeen Ree and everything.
Yeah, and for the I'm also really excited for the North American title
ladder match. Yeah American. I think they really good. I think all
the participants are really good. I think I think the favorite that's like people
are looking for is lash Legend, Yeah, because I think people have been
wanting her to get title for like a long time. And but I think
honestly, there's a lot of picks in this smatch that I could see,
like like the rood is like I'd want soul Ruka to win, but like
I don't know, the title is a matter of color scheme. I can't
see her wearing the title. It should change it, you know. I
think the only one that's not winning is me and m That's the only one
that's going to see and that's my thing. I don't think Meiam is gonna
win, But I think Mishan is going to have the spot of the night.
I don't know what she's gonna do, but I think she is going
to make sure that she has a table. I feel like like a Lash
legend like power bomb off the ladder outside the ring, like through a ladder
on michin that because I've only seen her like stuff with Trick and some of
her promo stuff. I've not got to see a match of Lash yet.
How is she the ring? She's she's decent my thing. I feel like
she would get it for the work she could do. Yeah, continue continuing
her stuff with metaphor continuing all of that, Like having that title as a
part of that, I think would be great. And uh, from what
I've seen, Sean Michaels is a very very big fan of hers, So
I think that that all all of that would play into her taking it.
Like again, she's I don't think she's the best wrestler in that match.
I don't think she's the top two wrestlers in that match, But when it
comes to what you can do with her going forward and having that belt,
she is a great choice for that. Yeah, Like they have a lot
of faith in her, Like she was the one where it was the match
of Larra and shot Si where shot Sea tour Ac and then like they had
Ava come out and like we're gonna have an impromptu match of Last Legend versus
Lara Valkyria, like to end the show like she just came on. They
had a match, like like they like they had her like the most reliable
person they could get to have a match and know her, so they have
a lot of trust in her. No, that's a good sign because yeah,
some of that stuff with tricks, so they have ideas. So I
know, my when I watched the NXT, like someone watched the first bit
tonight and then I go to the movies and watch the bit after movies or
tomorrow, I'll keep an eye on her and whatnot. So ye, I
know that's then got the OC down there, try and get those NXC tag
titles, you know, so we'll see how that goes. So and I
say for the underground match too, I really like those underground matches. Yeah,
like the no ropes. I think it's knockout her submission rack COVID you
would have loved it many. I just run that thing. I thought there's
a YouTube video I was about to watch. I didn't finish it, but
yeah, it's called like like Raw's Weirdest Time and it's a whole video of
like and it's reviewing every single Raw Underground segment. I was gonna watch it
like yesterday. They were so crazy and sometimes they would come out of nowhere
on this show like you just be you come back from commercial break and all
of a sudden, there's a camera going into this dingy section and dog fighting
fighting like O Moss before he's ow Moss or something like that, or almost
a bodyguard or something just this weird thing, or like earlier in the mat
early in the day, braun Strumman would get frustrated with something and then later
on you would just see him get mad in the minner of an interview.
Storm off camera woud follow him. He'd go into the battleground and then just
start wrecking shop and you're like, what is this? They never explained it.
It's just Shane showed up with Raw Underground and just start happening. They
never explained why Shane was doing it, what it was. Ranked will get
He's like, this is Raw Underground. They had like these people like ladies
scantily clad and like it was such that just weren't scheduled. They were just
someone a camera would just walk in and they're already being progress and people wonder
why aw in like twenty eighteen, twenty twenty was like close to the raw
ratings at sometimes like raw underground was happening, and then you got like Keny
Omega versus Brian Danilson on TV. So yeah, that's I think, I
think, I think it is. I think there is fun. It's just
the way that they did it in the twenty nineteen, like the COVID air
was a little questionable. Yes, someone reckons shop one week and in the
next week their Apollo's bodyguard. Oh, You're like, but what what is
happening? What am I even watching right now? I think for I think
for that next two works really well as like a stipulation, especially with a
lot of those people who have those backgrounds, like the Lola Ice versus SHANEA.
Basler, Like it's a perfect it makes sense. And in the UFCX,
Yeah, I was gonna just gonna say that, like it's gonna be
in that arena. There's a picture going around of like what it looks like
on the inside. It's pretty much just the Performance Center, but like slightly
bigger. Yeah, that's what it looks like. I mean. And then
with them having the relationship with Endeavor and you have c like you can pull
some of Shannon Basler's old footage from Ultimate Fighter and things like that and be
like, hey, this this is where her history is, this is why
she is a tough competitor in this arena, and things like that just helped
build that up. You've got so much access to that now. Yeah.
So no, I think it'll be a really good show. And I think
they're they're building up these like NXT shows to be because I think heat Wave
is gonna be like it's sent to me like a like a takeover pretty much
like it's money in the bank on Saturday and then heat Wave on Sunday,
which is very surprising, which I do like the WP reviews be on Sunday
or Saturday. But yeah, because usually it was the reverse, and for
me that made sense because it's like, oh, like the minor leagues and
then you end with the big leagues. But I wonder like because it was
always like people along in town, So I'm gonna go see NXT, but
this is like you have to stay for next now, right, You got
to make that choice, so they do. I think I have to make
that car no, seeing like what the what the sales are? I don't
know if there's even ticket sales out. Yeah, because I know what that's
the rumor for Julia versus whoever, and probably rocks In. I'm not sure
who will have for trick. But yeah, you gotta have a good card
because you want me. If it's a lackluster card, people will go I'm
gonna just go home, versus Okay, I'm already here for the weekend.
I'll go to the NXC where and that that was the case when I went
for Wrestlings was black and gold there. I would have stayed because those cards
were so good. But yeah, no, I like that. It's it's
it's good for them. It's good for those crowds or or good for them
like the younger talent being in front of crowds, or just bigger arenas or
bigger just shows, just having that pressure on you, you know. So
yeah, well we'll see what happens. So all right, finally we're doing
this because forbid door, because the NXTT and ah, we're all gonna pitch
our three crossover w W A W matches. That's what I'm gonna start with.
You give us one and them we'll go around the table. You said,
you're gonna try and go for some more out there picks. So who's
Tozawa going against. I'll save like my my big like dream dream match,
like the last one. I'll start with one. I'll start with I'll start
listen, just because I gave myself the idea of just talking about it.
But but Cody versus Brian Danielson, I just thought of that one now and
then that one's better than someone's I had on my list. I'll say that
one as my first pick now. Yeah, I think it'd be great to
in this version because I think they versed each other when Cody was like still
doing the undashing thing. Yeah, apparently it's like they're only match in like
twenty fifteen or something like. Lly, Yeah, it sucks with punkin Cody,
there's like a whole slew of a W matches we never read to have.
But with this Cody, with this Brian, I think you bring Brian
in as like a I was just shit heel too, Like it's like a
six star Meltzer match. Yeah, like he talks to he just talks about
how much happier he is not being WD, like he could have some real
fun. And I think heal Brian, Yeah, I would. I would
love to see that, and I think him Cody have would have good styles.
So Cody sometimes likes to work those slower pace matches, so I'd be
completely down for that. So all right, Dave, what do you got?
All Right, So I'm starting off with a banger out the gate,
and I'm going Okada versus gun Through hitting like a mofo. I didn't even
think of Okada can can be a hard hitter. He can do that Trump
style like and so imagine his hard hitting chops and drop kicks versus Gunther.
People were thinking it was gonna happen because he was gun Through is hitting the
rain maker and then they would tear each other red and no that I tried
to find. I didn't get a comment list, but I have goo Through
the same thing. I also have him for someone else I think different than
s pub. So we need tell Big Gooth their crowded because you just know
it's gonna like it's just gonna slap. But I literally, yeah, yeah,
literally Guther and Ocada though, o'cond type of guy. I'm excited.
I like that he's in the lead right now, but I'm excited for him
to do more single stuff because he is he is similar to Guther, where
he can just go out and like sounds bad, like have a five star
match his sleep, but he's just so good at his pacing and everything.
But no, that's a good one. So I'll follow it up and I'll
say Goonther now, and I'm gonna take your twos and put them together.
I'm going goother and Brian Danielson because you know Brian Danson, he loves getting
fucking chopped. We know this. Everyone loves some of those Greatest World Rumble
photos when his whole chest is like bloody and he's looking like Jesus Christ has
been killed. Like I like, and I think that the submissions everything.
I think Brian would be salvating a chance to get Goonther right now, like
I think they would just again, they would put on something really hard.
Uh. Brian has no worries losing. You know, He's gonna take the
hell so and because that's always the thing right off, like, oh,
they'd never do because who would win? Who would lose? Brian, That's
why he don't care. He's gonna he'll put him against whoever. He'll he'll
take the loss, But yeah, I think those two again, they have
very similar styles. It's it's like the Cody Bryant thing. It's like the
gun throw card thing. They're all have variations of styles, but they would
really work out. So that's where I would go. So again, obviously
Brian's ben w but this has never happened, so I would love to see
it. So and I'll go with my goother pick. Yeah, and I
have Gnther versus Kenoskate to kesh Tho. Oh my god, yeah that I
just feel like this would be like just like a crazy hard hitting match,
like they were just like Destry and I feel like even in this one,
you could get like those like big power spots that you maybe couldn't get with
like Danielson, Yeah, something like that. Then it's gonna be yeah loas
like super flexus and yeah, like power those moments when they're on the mat
and they have to lift them and you're like, oh my god. Yeah,
I feel like it'd be the I feel like this is similar lots of
chops and stuff, but you could also we got a lot of that like
just big man stuff. What would be good with takesha is you would get
those similar Drew and Seamus match fies, but he can do some flying that
those two can't. So I feel like you'd get like a little of those
matches mixed with a like a bit of the Sammy's a one. Yeah,
Takesha he could go, And that's the way I'd want this, because Takesha
is a guy he can never go to w W. They're not gonna book
him, right, He's gonna be a team with knock Lmaura. Yeah,
like a like Takesha should be just aw for most of his life because he
can have those matches and yeah that oh yeah, that'd be a good one.
Man. Okay, I'm figured out Tony and Triple Ah already, I'm
already bummed out. But okay, David, what's your second pick? Okay,
my second pick is actually gonna be more comedy match because I think that
these guys would have fun together. The Acclaim versus A Town Down, Oh
my, we get to see a Max Cassidy wrap on Theory and Lawler and
stuff. Just imagine the back and forth leading up to it and then the
mess. You know, Grayson Waller is gonna do something crazy come out effects.
Yeah, man, rap, that's that's gonna happen with that, Yeah,
it's it's gonna be just off the wall on all ends, and I
am here for the comedy spots that are going to happen, the over the
topness of that. Uh Bowen's is going to do something that is going to
involve Austin theory and just making his head explode literally with his overtness and like
the way that he's grabbing him to you could just tell it's gonna be over
the top, and I want it. I want the comedy. I want
them to just and they're all good wrestlers within their own right as well,
so they can have a good match, but it's it's all the other aspects
of it that I'm just like, please give me that. That'd be a
good second, like third match on the card, like after hot Opener or
something like that. I would love, though, if this was a real
thing and they announced like they're doing this Forbidden the Forbidden Portal, you know,
let's call it that that's at the Combo and like the first match they
announced, so it's like the Acclaim versus a town down and everyone's like,
oh my god, what's gonna happen for this? Whole show like yeah,
oh my god, yeah, I mean for me, I'm booking this,
it's like this, like a wrestled, like two night event. I'd have
two main events for this. Well, you gotta you gotta get under only
I only have one of them. I only have one of my I'll have
my third pick one of my my main events here. Yeah, I was
gonna say, uh, and on that note we didn't talk about, I
think you're finally in your Austin theory bay face turn here Gryson keeps talking about
how he's he's popping him up and he's the hottest, his banning, he
got him out of l row being irrelevant. So you know what's gonna happen
is Austere and Gray is gonna have a match. Austin's gonna get like some
cheers, just a little, not get some, and then he's just gonna
become a fucking battle royal guy, a guy that's just like a round.
That's my theory, no pun intended. I still don't see it, but
you know, good luck Auster. We'll see maybe maye I'm wrong. I
could be wrong. This could be the case where he could pull it off.
But al right, I had to get Osprey on the card, and
this was a tough one for me because there's a bunch of them they haven't
and I was surprised this match hadn't happened because I thought they would have crossed
paths. But I'm gonna pair him up with He has the movies and he
can tell great stories too, But I also pair him with somebody that could
arguably be W's greatest storyteller right now, and I'm putting with Sammy Zain.
That's who I think I would. I couldn't. I've never seen a match.
I never saw a match of him en Zane or maybe El Jerico if
they're the same person I know, but I looked I couldn't find any.
So I think that it'd be similar in the Danielson Osprey, where I don't
think any of them would be a heel. It would just be who's the
best, who's like especially if like inter Connell title versus International title. Let's
say this happens the next six months, like just that kind of who's the
who's the best of the ters? Know? I just think there would be
some really good stuff there. I think you could see like a Osprey breakout
that Tiger driver and you know, Zaane's gonna sell it like a motherfucker,
Like he's gonna be doing all like the rhythms and he like You're like,
I just feel like he has certain qualities that are similar to Brian but different
that I feel like sam Sammy still is more of that uh that WWE Brian
in him some from that heart, and I feel like that would be interesting
to see Ausbrey like at some point just lather him with move after moving,
saying keep getting up and hulking up. And I really don't know who because
I feel like both of them would be fine would lose, and like,
I feel like they've both taken big losses before, so I think that could
I think that's a match too that would go either way. There's some matches
where you know, okay, like the gun thr and Brian like might pick
like, hey, Gunther's getting the win here, Brian's taking this loss.
But that Sammy versus Willie Big, I could see both them making a pitch
here like who would get the win there? And I feel like w W
could sit Sammy Dan be like yeah, like you can lose this one right,
Like you're an underdog. You're underdog like there's and Sammy wouldn't have the
polities, but yeah, great, like you know, So that'd be my
pitch there because I think they could they could have some really, they could
have a show stealer those two. Everyone would be talking about the Sammy and
Osprey match. So that's what I'm going with. So I suppose what is
your your final one for this time? We'll probably but maybe we'll make this
a yearly thing, maybe every round time for Ben Door and uh these times
we'll come back with some new suggestions always been new wrestlers, But what's your
final pick here? So this would be this will probably be either one of
my main events or my main event that would lead to more a W and
w W paper views. So this would be an anarchy in the arena match
of the team of the New Elite, so the Young Bucks Okada and Jack
Perry versus a team of Cody Rose and Buck, Sammy's Day and Kevin Ohans,
and this would end with with Kevin Owens turning heel on on his team
and joining the Young Bud Well a trade, a trade Ricky starts for Kevin
on string. I can see it but yeah, this would be an anarchy
in the arena match. So you'd get your your real glass spot. Uh,
you'd get you get all your stuff, all your interactions there, see
them Punk going after Tony Kahn in the back there like pulling them and everything.
You cut to the security camera footage in the back. You can definitely
have like it's such a hit the Young Bucks with a sledgehammer or something too.
For sure. Yeah, this would be I mean, yeah, you
have Tony, Tony Kahn and rings side for for both teams. Tony hits
a pedigree on Triple H and this goes wild. I need Triple H handing
Cody Rhodes the sledgehammer turn the match, and then I need to see them
Punk putting Jack Perry in a sleeper hoole at some point. Absolutely. Yeah,
you hit on everything. It's like the end you have you have to
really come out on the thrones like the BA. Yeah, oh man,
that'd be great. All right, what's your last one? Okay, before
I give my last one, I'm gonna give an honorable mention because I want
this. It just can't happen because someone is injured. Uh, if they
weren't injured, I would want Eddie Kingston versus Kevin Owens. That would be
a good one. Yeah, that'd be good just those two guys's balls out
style, and especially if you do it out of WrestleMania. They're both jumping
off of something. But since they can't have that, I am going to
go for Osprey versus Finn Balor. I thought you're gonna be your boy on
there? Have they? Did they have a wrestle when he was devid or?
No? I am not sure. I can't remember because Osprey that was
like pre Osprey being like goa to ospray. He had like a lot of
like him and swerved like rest before. But that would be good to like
give Finn something heat him up. I just slipped it up and Eddie Kingston
and Kevin Stein did have a match a ro oh and anything goes match.
Oh, there you go. I might have to put that on the account.
A friend of the full match is on YouTube on the r OH YouTube
channel. So why did Finn get Because I knew your bro boy Osprey is
gonna be in the card. I knew there's no way early nov So why
out of all w PO, why did Finn get your just eat the loss
is that w At first it was going to be a redo of Osprey versus
Ricochet, but now that's looking like it's going to be a possibility. So
with that now being out there, I've got to get someone who can play
both the fast paced but steal heavyweight role. Tony's gonna do like a best
out of fifteen with Ospray and Ricochet, like in one match series. He's
gonna be like first person the thirteen wins wins the match. Yeah, yeah,
And I think that Finn is the type two legitimately. Yeah, he's
been taking a lot of losses, but he's also the type that his wins
are not oh my god, how did he pull this off? They're a
legitimate and especially if it's a one on one, like you take out the
judgment day and it's just Finn versus Osprey, none of that extra stuff.
For the first couple of matches, you could legitimately see Finn taking a win,
and I think that they would just have a It'd be a good match.
They can do groundwork together, they can do high flying together, like
they can bounce off of each other so well. I think that they would
just put on an excellent match, and I feel like it would be their
first I do feel like they would do more than one match. I had
them in my head doing the best of three and if this is their third
one. This is Finn with the face paint. This is Finn with the
body work, like he's coming full stop. You're gonna get brough to the
max Osprey with the full fur coat in the hood, coming out like he's
making an insurance thin is making. I'm here for, yes, bring out
the full swords of Essex. Look, I'm here for the fullshit bang from
start to finish of these two going at it, and I think it would
just be one hell of a match. I miss main event of Finn balor
Man and Prince Devid Like that's like even though this one happen right now,
they like I need Finn to have like a four point five classic, like
I need, like I just I'm tired of him. Think God, he's
not wearing that stupid helmet anymore, but I'm just tired of him. I
just wanted to get back to that level. Man, I was such a
big fan of Prince Devid, and I just I want I'm hoping with this
breakout with the Judgment Day, he gets to be the leader and he can
do that. But in this scenario, I would hope that they'd be together,
so Osbrey can cut a promo with the Judgment Day and Damien and him
can have a dog bruve off. You know, they can go back and
forth that way. But I also felt like somewhere in the build up to
this, Finn could straight up say the only reason you got a chance to
shine in New Japan is because I left. Yeah, yeah, you can
definitely hit on that. So I hope, man, I hope some Prince
devid stuff. So all right, my one. I went for the easy
juggler, the one that like, I'm sure it's been a bunch, but
I don't care if you're If you're doing this, you gotta make it big.
I'm going and I don't think anarchy and arena. But even though when
you said that, I thought you're gonna take my picks, I'm happy didn't.
So it could be applied with this if you want as well. But
I'm saying it's strange, Bedfellows. You get the shield back together, and
then you get the Elite, You get Kenny and the Bucks versus Romans.
Seth and Moxley. Don't know how how you get Moxley back with the Shield,
but I think like the idea of all because I think the match quality
would be good too, but the idea of the Shield having to work together
again with everything Seth and Roman's been through Moxley being away, I think there's
and even now too with like Kenny and the Bucks like them like firing him
beating them up. I wasn't so much concerned with that actual story stuff because
by the time we get there for whatever happened, that's probably gone. But
I think specifically with the Shield, there's so much fun stuff you could do
with that, And that's just to me, Like you look at the jokes
are always like with the women, the Four Horse Women run wrestling, right,
and then with wrestling it's the Elite and the Shield. Those are the
two factions that have been like they define the last ten decades of stuff in
WW and then the indie slash New Japan than a w I think that is
the ultimate. You can't just go easy and go Roman Kenny. Sure you
can't do that, but I think it's a j Kenny at too. That'd
be another good one, like another one I had on my list, like
this would be outside of my Kevin Owns turning heel, but I've had Darby
Allen versus Kevin Nuns. Oh yeah, and Ken just throw you know what
fuck I'd love to Brock was Bronck and Derby would have been something because Brough
so I'd get I'll give I'll give him gun there and Derby. But yeah,
it's more so that Kenny and Roman would be like the big of like
the last like the twenty fifteen to twenty twenties. They were the guys your
poster post. Yes, yeah, that's why he was for the thumbnail of
course, right, you know. But that to me having the shield in
the elite, it's like those are the collective guys that have changed the industry.
I want to try and find a way, Like I couldn't find anyone
else to add his shield to like get Cody, Like my dream would be
the Elite in Cody versus the shield somebody but no one really fit with.
So my pitch is that Cody is the special guest referee. Yes, that's
my pitch. Because you got Wrongs, who's like his new bff. You
got Mocks who his history but then you have Roman, but then you also
have the elite who the start WUS. So I think it's like you run
back Triple H and Undertaker and like Sean's the referee, you do that,
but Cody is a ref and the post imagine that poster and it's like who
does who? Does Cody pick his original company or like the company that saved
his career and they started, Like I think him is the ref? Holy
now yeah so bad YouTube thumbnail, but like him is the ref. That's
like that's like the WrestleMania forty event. Like that's like endgames level stuff of
like, oh, who's he gonna pick? What's he gonna do? Maybe
fucking Final Boss comes out to do something. I don't know, punkin help,
Like there's so much stuff. Yeah, so here's what I could see
happening with that, Like Cody is in the match Originally in this Elite versus
you have Roman in the w W guys, the elite, the elite takeout
Cody and so then they but they tell Cody like, hey, you can
pick your replacement. Anybody for Team w W past or present you can pick.
And then that's when he picks Mox to be on that team to complete
the Shield. He's like you said, past or present boom that that's who
I want on my team. So I love to see the Trigger just Kenny
just destroy. And then at some point during that you gotta have Jack Perry
taking the shield bomb through the table like god, yeah, that's yeah.
And you tie together because the first match Shield ever had or like they interfered
on Seampunk's match, she tied together somewhere there. So yeah, there would
be fun. But I think we're still like the like the Fantasy Book wrestling
where it's just like a lumberjack match, the amount of people who are out
the entire gold Dust comes back. Gold Dust comes back. You think he's
with WW, but then he turns he's with AW. You know, like
there's so much stuff arn which ways aren't gonna go Andrade, Hey, he
doesn't get to appear. You know another one if if injuries didn't count,
I would have a triple threat between thin A j and ken Yomeg absolutely for
like the bolt Club leadership. Yeah, you know, not do a fail
four. Put Cody in there. You the leader for a month, you
know, bolt Club is fine. I would be down to get Cody in
and then I know what I want to be his elimination style. And then
the three of them just team up and they get Cody out right away because
he was never like a true leader, and they just like they shield power
bomb through a table, flaming table, and Cody eats the fin and then
they go, Okay, you're You're done. But yeah, I hope one
day, I hope, you know, you just gotta hope doesn't contract Tamper
anymore. You gotta hope Tony Kahn doesn't compare to them, Harvey Weinstein anymore.
I hope there's like a year of them just being quiet and then just
one day and I don't know, you know who it's gonna take. I
legitimly think with him going back to free agency at some point we would be
good. I think Brian Danison could be the guy. He could be the
guy that could make the pathway to both companies because he's never said he hated
WW. He still was friends with Vince and all of them. I would
just love if someone just sat down and just like just Imasgine, like what
if you just got dinner but just see what happened? Or the cons Nick
and Nick and Tony, like just see what would happened like or do like
when who got back to I can't remember, but it was like yeah,
shack on Nick con Yeah, or like when Triple Ah, Stone Cold and
Vince met in like a hotel secretly, like do that, don't tell anybody,
it's a small circle and just see what happens. Because the thing is
like sure W doesn't want to prote aw, but they both could make a
lot of fucking together, like a lot of like there'd be tons of egos,
but like they could make tons of money together. They could smell out
like that, Like what's like the AT and T Stadium? Yeah, like
in Texas, like double the tickets. Yeah, do a four night WrestleMania
Friday, Saturday, Sunmer punk and finally made them in a WrestleMania when we
get punkin O make and that's thing. That's what they should do. Agree
to do a weekend and then just get all the matches. Do all the
matches that one weekend. Each card is like a mix up they do like
the g one but uh yeah, so who knows, but there you go.
We're back. I'm not sure we did so Class. What are the
dates for Class? A week like next Weetriday, next Saturday, okay,
and then forbidden the thirtieth. Okay, and let me see when money in
the bank is. I think we might try to planet then July sixth.
It's July sixth, July six okay, so it is July sixth. It
is pretty sick, Okay. So I think we'll probably we'll probably wait for
money the bank because I thought, do we after Forbidden Door because the two
pair reviews, But I think before money in the bank because that's right,
okay. So I think we'll probably do one for and then what's after Forbidden
Door? What's the next a w pair? Is that all hours there one
between aw pay some like minor one between yeah, like some some okay,
so they got in twenty twenty four. No, it's all in, So
that's a perfect okay. So yeah, well that's what we'll do. We'll
do one probably right before money the bank because we can do our changes.
We'll do predictions, and then we can cover clash and uh Forbiden door,
and then we don't gotta worry about all all in because that's not till August.
So and then that's probably we'll do is Yeah, we'll do one before
in the Bank, and then we'll do one at the end of July be
and August before all In. We can do predictions there and then also hang
on what is the date of Summer Slam too, like August fifth? August
fifth, okay, so that might August third. I think it is August
third, okay, so that's probably Bash in Berlin is August thirty first,
okay. So oh and then and that works summerslams berlains same month, and
that works out too because all In is the twenty fifth, So that's probably
our rough schedule. Is the next forbidden or not? We're not for bindor
fuck? The next episode of the gimmick, we'll go before my in the
Bank because we'll make predictions that we gotta change on our draft picks if we
want to. And then the next episode after that we will do after Uh
uh what is it? God? I just had it there because uh,
wasn't there a pay per view for w that's Bash of Berlin, right,
that's what it was before Summer Slim, right, No, after SummerSlam,
yeah, okay, So I'm not sure about the middle, but either way,
they'll be one right before My in the Bank, and then right after
all in and SummerSlam, because those are within a week each other, so
those will be kind of the next two for July and August. I think
there's another one somewhere in there, but if not, those are kind of
the rough too, so we'll cover all those and uh and again if something
big happens, you know, if if I don't know, if someone if
Brett Hart comes back and Money Bank wins and scum there, I'll be there
because you know. But yeah, so no, we'll be back for those,
and those will be good because those will be more topic heavy on the
pay per views. So thank you, gentlemen for joining s P Bub's good
to have you back in the in the trio here, in our elite Shield
trio here. So yeah, we'll be back for right before Money in the
Bank to make some draft picks and predictions because that will be good too,
because we'll have the full roster for both men and women for Money in the
Bank, and really talk about who we think because we think we think could
be you know, j or Brom, but someone else could be entered.
Who knows, it could be fucking Penta. Maybe Penta's gonna win money in
the bank and Defy's gonna be give a big push. But yeah, we'll
be back in about a month. Uh and then it will be boring and
we'll talk to you then Bye.