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Did any thing. Everybody to welcome
to fire up, and three of us

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are fired up. My name is
Scott Morgan, Ralph Morgan, City Manmouth,

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pleased to be joined by George Icorn. Welcome back George, and our

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third man on the Total Pull here
is Ralph Williams. Ralph, welcome back

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to our show. Thanks Scott,
Thanks George. Right, didn't have a

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fast thirty to thirty five minutes to
talk about some Pennsylvania sports. Oh absolutely,

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I'm ready. I'm always ready.
All Right, George, you're gonna

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actually take the lead on this,
Okay, and then we'll turn over to

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Ralph and I'll get my final shots
on this first one, let's talk about

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the passing of former Pittford Pirate farmhand
Detroit Tiger Jim Price. George leading with

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this, and let's talk about the
unfortunate passing. Yeah, Jim Price,

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who was the backup catcher, as
many of you remember in the nineteen sixty

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eight World Series that the Tigers stunned
the world being the Saint Louis Cardinals and

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the great Bob Gibson. Well,
Jim Price had what you would call a

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minor role on the Tigers as a
player obviously, Freehand was the All Star

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year after year after year. A
great catcher. Jim made a great transition

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after his career into the broadcast booth. He first went to Channel two,

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which is at that time was our
CBS affiliate. Now it's a Fox affiliate.

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Anyways, he did sportscasting, you
know. Van Patrick brought Jim Price

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on board, and Jim Hendrick and
Fred Snowden did some work there and had

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a literally good sports team go on
and Doyle our friend, and Doyle was

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there at too as well. Jim
Price then made are out of it.

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He was a very very close friend
of Mike Ilitch, the late owner of

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the Tigers, and Price was in
the broadcast booth both for cable TV and

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regular over the air radio and worked
with the great Ernie Harwall for many many

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years and has since worked recently with
Dan Dickerson who does the play by play.

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And Jim passed away unfortunately he had
a long illness and could not continue

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anymore in the broadcast booth. He
has not been nonsense before the All Star

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Game, so they've been having fill
ins fill in for him. But yeah,

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a great guy and loved the community, spent a lot of time devoting

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to his son, who is challenged
with autism. Formed he and his wife

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formed an charity for autism and to
raise money to help out families that need

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help. So farewell to number twelve. Jim Price. We're gonna miss you.

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A great guy. I know,
Scott, you had great memories too,

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And we saw him. You saw
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him at home. But I'm telling
you he was a great man, a

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great announcer, and he loved tigers, love the Tigers. So roll,

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what are your thoughts about Jim Price. I know you followed, you filed

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the Pittford Pirates a long time.
That's obviously your team anyhow, but you

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know this guy was a part of
your system. Yeah he was. I

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heard he was a really good uh, a really good person. And you

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know, back in those days,
athletes were great people because they blended in

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with the community and they you know, they did a lot of charitable work.

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They did a lot of different things. Nowadays, the athletes, some

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of these athletes don't even care.
So I mean, you know that's what

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Jim Price was good for. He
was good for working with people. It

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was good. It was good with
the team and that's you know, I

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feel bad that he passed away today. Michael doleances to his family, you

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know. So yeah, and again
I got to know Jim not only when

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I was at Tiger home games,
mainly during spring trading. And I'll never

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forget the time when the Milwaukee Brewers
and the Tigers played a three game series

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of Milwaukee and Ken Cal and Jim
Price were doing the broadcast and I'm looking

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at Jim. By the way,
you see that place called Friday's. Okay,

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my wife and I got married.
There's really wow, really no kidding.

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But I used to see Jim around
the grape Fruit League. I bumped

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into him at the match. He's
just a super guy. I don't think

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there was a mean moan in this
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But yeah, I gotta tell you
though, when I was at Miller

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Park and I told him that,
you know, the biggest smile on Ken

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Cal and Jim Price it was,
I wish I would have had a reaction

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to it. So all right,
on our next topic, Carlson thirty three

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great number because it happens to be
my lucky number. By the way,

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He's excited to join the Penguins for
an opportunity to contend for a cup.

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The three time Norris Trophy winner has
accomplished obviously more than the most in the

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last fourteen NHL career. He's chasing
that elusive Stanley Cup ring. Now bear

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in mind, Okay, he's the
youngest member of the new Core four.

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He got Sidney Crosby whose thirty six, of Jenny Malkin thirty seven, Chris

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Letang thirty six, and he's coming
off a historic campaign that saw him become

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the sixth defenseman to record one hundred
points in a single season. He's playing

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on the NHL's fourth worst team,
the San Jose Shark. So he got

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to remind me of Steve Problem when
he won twenty seven games for a poor

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Phillies team that I believe what on
fifty seven fifty nine, George, So

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I'm going to give you the lead
first on this. I mean, you

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talk about the Penguins and bringing this
guy on with a new core for to

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tell you what, Yeah, it'll
be back in. Let's this move.

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Yeah, he's a good player,
solid addition to the Penguins. You know,

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the Wings have always struggled with the
Penguins. I know when the Detroit

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has played them, obviously, they've
split the two times they were in the

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Stanley Cup Finals. The Red Wings
won the first get go and the Penguins

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of course one and unfortunately I had
a witness that celebration, Ralph and Scott

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on the ice and Joe Lewis arena
as a reporter. But all that being

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said, yeah, yeah, I
mean you get some you got some superstars

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on that team. Still, you
still got a lot of fight and you

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also have a lot of talent still, so I never count I never comppends

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out. I mean, they are
a good organization. They have been for

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decades. Mario Lemieue got involved and
that team has really been good. But

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yeah, I think this is a
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And I'm just I'm just disavoided it
didn't come and wear the red and white

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of the Red Wings. But that's
another story for another day. Obviously,

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the Red Wings I were trying to
rebuild and Steve Eisman is doing a good

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job so far so, but yeah, getting at this, that's a great

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pickup, I think, don't you
think Ralph? Absolutely, guys, I

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think this is a great pickup.
There are some people in this town.

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Some of my other media friends or
pundits actually that are going around saying that,

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well, this guy started three years
old and that the pen was needed

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to get younger, not slower.
So you know, because he's started three

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years old, and I was the
only one in media person in this town

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that said that Kyle Dubis was going
to do well in this town. Everybody

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had all these doubts about Kyle Dubis. I said, watch, he's gonna

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he's gonna do. He's gonna do
phenomenal things and he has. Look what

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he did with this Trake, George
and Scott. He went ahead and he

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got rid of the deadweight in this
on this team he got rid of he

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shedded salary with getting by getting rid
of the deadweight. Okay, the Groundlin

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deal was terrible. He cleaned up
every mistake that Ron Hextall made and he

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did in a short period of time
what took Ron Hextel three years to do.

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Okay, So what I'm saying is
cal Dubis is a genius. It's

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going to be between him and Omar
Kahn and the Steelers as to who's going

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to be the GM of the year
in this town, because you know,

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it's gonna be the tide between the
two ofive because they both have done phenomenal

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jobs of trying to get you know, both both teams squared away. The

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Steelers with both finds the scrimmage,
and the Penguins they need to start winning

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the Stanley Cups. Mike Sullivan he
needs to start getting with the times with

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a little bit of things, and
he needs to fix up his offense a

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little bit and what has to There's
a lot of things have to happen.

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There's a few guys they still need
to get rid of. I didn't like

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the Christian Jarry signing for five years, but they did get rid of that

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deadweight, Casey D. Smith.
He was an average below average backup.

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So a lot of things went on
in this trade, and I was in

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favor of the Penguins and I love
it. I love the trade. I

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love every part of it. Well, I mean, the only thing I'll

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say to close out the topic is
this, Okay, there's a reason why

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you call it the off season.
Sometimes you're winners in the off season.

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Sometimes you're losers. And judging by
the new addition the general manager that the

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Pagans have brought in, anytime you
can get rid of a lot of dead

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weight in one off season. You're
doing really, really, really well.

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You're telling me all these guys that
were no good Well, my goodness,

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Ralph, I mean really, I
mean, and then you're able to get

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a guy like this here. You
know, how many times have you seeing

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guys chase a Stanley Cup and they
wind up in the right situation, right,

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you know? And yeah, you
know this guy. We've seen Ray

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Bourke I think win the championship.
And I'm sure the list goes on and

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on about older guys that were able
to go somewhere and then chase that elusive

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ring. Go ahead, Ralph,
Yeah, I'd like to see Jeff Carter.

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I'd like to see Jeff Carter when
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He was with the kids for a
long time. We brought him in a

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few years back for some experience because
we had some injuries. Crosby was hurt,

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Alkin was hurt. We needed some
experience and we need some leadership from

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the locker room. It was great
to bring him here. He had a

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good season. Last year. We
had an average season. But I'd like

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to see Jeff Carter. He's been
in the League a long time. I'd

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like to see him get a Stanley
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I mean, you know, there's
some guys and they're in the right in

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the right position. I just hope
that Mike Sullivan can coach it. That's

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all I'm hoping for. Yep,
all right, one more topic of the

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night and then we're gonna go ahead
and do your parting shot. We have

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a very light itinerary to night.
But they always said not quantity, but

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it's quality, and I got news
right. I think the three topics here

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that I felt were really something that
not only did we not have an offer,

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well, we didn't have what we
just had, okay for twenty four

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hours ago. We did this on
the Sports Exchange, right, Georgia,

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we have it now, Phillies.
Michael Lorenzen thirty one no hits the Nashville

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seven and nothing and in his second
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hundred and twenty four pitches, yes, okay, seventy six rights Fitch counts

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the Heights in a complete game no
hitter. Since Mike fires one thirty one

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through a no no for Oakland and
twenty nineteen, we know about him in

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Detroit right, George. But I
got to get credit to Rob manager Rob

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Thompson for letting him chase history a
lot. I mean, to buy no

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hitters if we ever seen more than
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There's still legitimate, but they're there, so they're becoming more legitimate because

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they're popping up that way. But
this is a fourteenth no hitter in Phillis

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history by a guy that's only had
two starts. George, please help me

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and my old you know, or
did Dave Dombrowski fleece the daylights out of

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the Tigers? Well, this was
a situation we got to look a little

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bit closer to because the Tigers knew
that in this particular situation, if they

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could get some value for Lorenz and
that this was in the back of their

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minds. Scott Harris being the president
of Baseball ops in Detroit, and they

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worked really really good with Michael.
I mean, obviously he was the team's

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All Star representative for the All Star
Game up in Seattle. Remember in July.

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He representative the Tigers. The pitching
staff, Chris Fetters and the staff

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here and Detroit worked really closely with
him, and you know, helped him

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out a lot this half season,
and so despite the fact that they let

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him go, I think the fact
is is that the field confident that they've

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started something here. This is a
trend that Scott Harris has done in San

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Francisco and Chicago other places he's been
that he likes to get a veteran and

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get the value high. You know, you want the most in return.

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Quite frankly, I don't think we
got it up for him, Okay,

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But the fact of the matter is
is that he pitched the no hitter.

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He's a good kid, he's energetic, he's a he's a good Christian.

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But besides that, he just is
having so much fun this year and he's

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rediscovered himself from being that long relief
pitcher shortly. Whatever he's done in his

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career, now he knows he can
start. And I think that's an important

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signal that again Detroit helped him with
that. Yes, I'm sorry he's not

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a Tiger anymore, but boy,
I'm happy that this happened right in your

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backyard over there, not far from
you at least. Ralph Williams right,

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Well, you know something, guys, a change the scenery is, you

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know, is a good thing a
lot of times. I mean, if

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you know, a lot of guys
have been on teams for a long time

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and then they end up going somewhere
else and they reinvent themselves. They might

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be they might have been a good
reliever, but then had had about five

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bad seasons and then become a starter
somewhere else and end up pitching no hitters

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and becoming an All star. I
mean, you know, it's all about

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change the scenery. Maybe he wasn't
happy in Detroit. Maybe Detroit didn't it

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just didn't fit for him for something. And now he's in Philly and he's

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reinventing himself, and I'm glad.
I'm happy for him. I'm glad that

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that's going on. I mean,
I always am for someone. We had

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a guy that was here in Pittsburgh. His name was Bronson or Royal,

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and Bronson Royal was good in the
minors, stunk up when the Pirates would

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bring him up all time, just
like Tyler Glass. Now, okay,

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both of them were the same thing. But as soon as they went to

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other teams, Bronson Royal and Tyler
glassnow became All stars, both of the

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team. When Royal went to the
Reds and then glassnow went to the Tampa

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Baby, the Tampa Bay Rays.
Okay, they ended up being all stars,

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so I changed the scenery. Cannot
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all the time. Good evening,
Jeremy, and we'll put Kenny Ebling's point

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out. Really good one too,
Glad, George Reade Sure, Candy,

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thank you for sending this along.
That was the coolest moment of my baseball

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career going out there for the ninth
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com, just walking out of the
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It gave me the chills. It
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for sure. Now, the only
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is that's okay. Michael Renzen is
in Philadelphia. You know what they want

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them they can pay him, and
you know what, They've proven that they

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will pay people what you want.
A good example, Bryce Harper. It

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makes a lot of money, right, okay. And the list goes on

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or not, so you know,
I'm happy for him, you know.

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And al Campannis say what you want
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baseball exact. But when I was
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he always told me there's three ways
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immediate, the short term, and
a long term. And you know,

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you talk about how John smolts,
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of those deals. So you got
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were able to win a division because
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John smolt turned out. I think
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absolutely many. So the bottom mine
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Yeah, Michael Lorenz, And I'll
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The division to Marylin's. I believe
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as I'm concerned, you know,
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goodness, this is gonna get interesting. Over the last month and a half

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or so, three former Tigers there, guys. Nick Castiano said he he

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had two home runs in that no
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outfielder, and Gregory Soto of course
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year so right, And of course
my man in the front office, Dave

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Dombrowski wise always admired here in Detroit. Right, he didn't get right.

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I know a lot of people said
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lot of the minor leaguers for better. George Steinbrinter did it too, and

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he won championship. So I'm not
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what every quality organization that wants to
win now doing it. You know,

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obviously the Tiger's going to rebuild.
A lot of teams are going to rebuild.

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Someone takes a little bit longer than
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through that rebuild, okay, end
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went through a very difficult rebuilding,
ended up getting their announcers suspended for the

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dumbest suspension on the planet. But
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for their television network, you know, they endured a tough rebuild and now

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they're they're sitting atop the American leagues. And who would have thought that the

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New York Yankees were near the bottom
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Miami Marlins this weekend over at Lone
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Sunday game before I fly out to
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good stuff. Two things guys that
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can build a baseball team. The
front office and scouting, okay, yeah,

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yeah, And Philly has managed to
start scouting better. And if you

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scout good, Baltimore, look at
them. They were sad forever. Now

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they're outing and slowly getting in some
good front office people, getting some people

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in there that can that can work
with these young kids that work. If

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you don't have a good minor league
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it. It's over. And the
Pirates had that problem, and it's just

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it's over. Now. The Pirates
are like in the top ten. They're

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like number five, top minor league
system in baseball now. The Tampa Bay

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Raised, yes, have always been
good insted too. Yep, So let

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me and it's a couple of interesting
points starting to interrupt your RALF Okay,

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number one, it's okay, go
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system back in the early eighties and
George Steinbrenner to this day, the Steinbrenner

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family has always invested heavily into that, and whether you use them for your

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own good or whether you trade them, that's how good your farm system is.

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That's item number one, okay,
And when you judge your farm system

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that way, these are about a
bunch of assets trying to earn you something

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so that you and ultimately get to
where you're gonna go. We all know

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that everybody uses it differently. You
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on it because their budgets cater to
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have done it really, really well. The Phillies are one of those types

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of teams where they've got a lot
of money and they use it well,

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and they've always had a lot of
good executives down the road. So you

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know, to me, you make
kind of what. It's not how how

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much money, it's how you spend
it is really what it is. And

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I think that a lot of it
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to. Moments go yeah, yeah. Small market teams have to get value

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for everything. Let's say you know
that they have to get value for what

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they're what they're going to spend for
for a player they can't afford to just

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squat there a poor cocker and thirty
million dollars for a guy, and then

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he's gonna he's going to soil the
bed. What has to happen is is

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they you have to get value and
and if you can get value for your

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money, hey, that's great.
Yeah. Well, you know what I

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was coming to Miami Marlin series.
I've talked to Dan Dickerson. He told

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me in short term here, okay, aj aj Hinch and Scott Harris are

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going to do fine. That's what
he told me. Yes they are.

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And you know what, I believe
in Dan Dickerson. This guy knows what

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he's talking about. He really does. I mean, you know, and

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like anything else, you know,
the Tigers had Ala Vila and he made

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some major mistakes and that's why he's
not employed right now. Period. Nothing

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against al, but you had a
long time to get this thing right in

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and now you've got a J.
Hinch who I think it's a great manager

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and his patients will be rewarded.
Chris Vetters is a really good pitching coach.

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They've got a lot of pieces in
Detroit, they really really do.

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But you know what about the Atlanta
Braves. They've lived and died by the

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pharmacystem as well over the years.
And I can go on and on about

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one of different teams. I can
all day long. But you know what,

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that's just how it goes. And
you know, I mean the Milwaukee

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Brewers were crying out loud. They
don't have John D. Rockefeller money,

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right, But you know what all
they do is they always contend. They

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always content because they have they have
a good front office and they have a

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great council. You think he's any
good by the way, for a lot

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of people who want to know he
did win the world champion ship is a

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marlin. If that on wasn't good
enough, he won one in the Arizona.

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So this guy is almost shrewd managers
I've ever seen. And you've got

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a lot of good pieces with a
lot of these good teams. So you

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know what that said. Let me
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Ralph, this is here time to
have your parting shot, because well

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I'll make sure you have your George
and I have all week to give ours.

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Give it to me, Ralph.
Parting shot is I want a parting

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shot out to my fellow Pittsburgh media
people who doubted me when I said Kyle

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Tubis was the man for the Penguins
job and everyone, and as I mentioned

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earlier, everyone around here said that
I didn't know what I was talking about.

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Oh well, he was in Toronto. He did a little bit of

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things here and there. He helped
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of playoffs. But that was it. And I said, let me tell

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you someone, Kyle Tubas gets here. And now I'm the one that last.

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You know what they say, he
that laughs last, laughs best.

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Now I'm laughing because I was right
again. And you know what, that's

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how we close the broadcast because I
had an opportunity. Rolf Williams got it

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right. And you know what,
Ralph Williams and I and Mark Mancini will

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get it right on Saturday's let everybody
know, yes we are Yeah that Sportsman.

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The External Bump Podcast I love.
I wasn't sure it's the name External

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bum Podcast. Okay, we'll just
put that one in the creative category.

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But anyways, you can hear this
show here from at nine thirty Eastern time.

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I believe it last until at ten
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ten every Saturday morning. Beautiful zero
five, nine, six three one number

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Yeah that too, okay, but
anyways, it's good to be on there

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with you, Mark, and I
guess Joe Google this is that what his

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name. I probably get Yeah,
I got it. Mark always messes his

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name, Mark calls some cutless.
It's cool. Well, Mark Mancini is

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in a good zone. But he's
one of us, So what can we

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say? So man Man and man
Mouth, you can only imagine what that

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show would look like on any platform
and be anything but boring. Like my

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new MotorCity Mattmouth show will over at
Eagle Communications, will probably debut sometimes this

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fall. We're trying to get a
lot of this out, including my book.

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So meanwhile, that concludes this edition
of Fire Up for those who participate

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in the chat room, all,
like I say, is a big fat

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thank you, And meanwhile, programming
note, Fire Up will not be featured

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next Thursday night as I will be
in Detroit, but it will return two

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weeks from tonight. So Ralph,
you know, we can't send you an

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invite next Thursday because I might be
at one of my favorite restaurants. But

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I guarantee I'll be loaded, you
know, but I'll be on your show

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every Saturday, just well not on
this platform. All right. A fast

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question for you guys, what's going
on with Chris Archers. He's still with

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Detroit. I don't know Chris Archer, Yeah, it was. It was.

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He was signed by Detroit. He's
play for their he was with the

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Race. I don't know they've they've
they've some of the guys that Scott Harris

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has picked up, he's ended up
dropping our dumping him. Let's be honest,

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Okay. So one of the things
that he's been doing is picking up

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a lot of guys that were a
cup of coffee journeyman, if you will,

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in the in the major leagues.
He was apologize. I don't know

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if Archer's still in the organization.
I know he recently though, has severed

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ties with a couple of those players
that I just mentioned. So okay,

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I'll tell you what though. You
know, hey, you look at that

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waiver wire and he's being much more
aggressive than ala Villa ever was as far

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as looking and some of these diamonds
in the rough. I mean, you

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know, look what he did with
like we already talked about with Lorenza.

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You know, nobody, nobody wanted
him around. Well, Detroit took him

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and they and they got a good
half here out of him. Right.

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One thing I forgot to do,
by the way, and I won't forget

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because they're still alive, Okay,
Ralph le everybody know how they get a

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hold of you. Ralph Williams seventh
through seven at gmail dot com, www,

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Thought rw Media, Thought or against
my media company. And also you

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can find me all. You can
find me on x formerly known as Twitter

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and Facebook. George. Yeah.
And speaking of Twitter and Facebook, I

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mean, I've got a book myself, Detroit Sports Broadcasters on the Air.

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Scott is featured in the book,
and so are so many other great great

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announcers we've had over the years,
like Ernie Harwell and Van Patrick, George

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Blaha, Ray Lane, Frank Beckman. I mean, some great great announcers

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in Detroit. The book is available. There's a link to it at the

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end of my column which appears under
the South Florida Tribune. You drill down

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to the Motor City Tribune and I
can tribute there. And also you can

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contact me personally at gi Corn at
yahoo dot com and I can tell you

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how to obtain the book. So
great to be honesome. I've said my

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piece, but Jeremy and Kenny said
that christ Urcher is a free agent.

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We'll take it at that and leave
it on that note. Okay, thank

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you. Thanks for that concludes this
edition of Fire Up. So I mean

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half of George I Corn and Ralph
Williams. My name is Scott Morgan,

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Rold's Motor City, Madmouth. Thank
you for joining on all of a sudden

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this edition of Fire Up, and
we will catch you two weeks from tonight.

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Good Night, everybyday