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Oh my goodness. Off of a
weekend that has seen a wild, gruesome,

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gory main event for the Premiere Boxing
Champions, a debut pay per view

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on Amazon Prime, including the full
fight card there. But that was not

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all. We back up to Friday
night, Oscar Valve there is tremendous knockout

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in his ESPN top ranked main event, a win for Zerdo Ramirez that captures

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a cruiserweight world title in the Golden
Boy main event. A tremendous fight on

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Sunday among British heavyweights in the Boxer
main event shown in the US on Peacock

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Wow, A ton to go over
on the Fight for Each to night recap.

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Hello, I'm the somewhat competent host
TJ. Reeves. He is our

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insider Dan Rayphiel. Listen, we
have got a ton to go over.

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Thank you for finding us, rate
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out find us on Apple, Spreakers, Spotify. So much to go.

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First, of all, you and
I are crotchety. Duke has lost it

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screwed us both up. We don't
like that in the March madness. But

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man, there's so much boxing good
gracious, so are you ready to get

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into it? Because we've got a
ton of fights, a ton of fights,

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all right. I have been watching
box let's begin. I've been watching

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boxing for forty five years of my
life. At least you are my contemporary,

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my same age. I don't know
that I have ever seen anything as

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gruesome, gory, bloody outside of
like a Friday the Thirteenth movie or Nightmare

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on Elm Street movie. Uh what
oh gore factor, he's twenty seven,

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Tim Zuo and Sebastian Fondora. Fondora
gets the decision. But good lord,

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that was squeamish stuff. Dan,
welcome and go ahead. I got to

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turn away. A couple of times. I've told the story about being ringside

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for Paul Briggs Thomas adamk light heavyweight
title fight where Thomas adamak bled for the

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entire fight from his broken nose that
he had broken two weeks before the fight

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but refused to pull out. And
I got queasy that fight being right there

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and that this reminded me that.
But I, like you, I've been

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watching boxing most of my life.
I've seen and been ringside for, and

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watched on TV numerous fights with hillacious
cuts and injuries and blood. That's normal.

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That's expected. It's a blood sport, as they call it, but

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I can never remember a time where
both guys were not only had bloody issues,

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but it was to that massive degree
because the Zoo cut on the top

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of the head is the grossest thing
I've ever seen in boxing in terms of

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the amount of blood. And then
if you look at Fondora, he was

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messed up because the nose in the
mouth a lot of it. He was

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probably swallowing it so it didn't look
as bad. But you know, I'm

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snapping like pictures of screenshots, and
these two men are covered head tiptoe,

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front to back, TJ. It
was like a fucking murder scene. I

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mean, I'm not being emotional.
It was horrible, absolutely hillacious, And

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look, we got a lot to
get into on this particular fight, but

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I'm going to start off with this. I bow to Tim zoo Man.

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It was one of my favorite fighters
before this fight. Massive respect for his

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willingness to fight whoever, the whole
thing with the dog bite. I was

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a big fan of his father,
watching the way he's conducted himself, dealing

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with his media obligations, willingness to
come to America, taking fundor on twelve

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days. Notice. Oh, by
the way, I'm gonna switch from a

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five to eight guy to a six
six guy. Oh, by the way,

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he's gonna turn around, he's gonna
be a left handed. Didn't even

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blink an eye. That's a real
fucking fighter. Okay, that's a guy

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I'll fight anybody, any place,
anytime, anywhere, whatever. That's the

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epitim of it. And then to
see what he did in the fight where

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he got a gaping fucking wound on
his head, an accidental situation. He

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was ducking down, he banged into, you know, the the tip of

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Fundora's elbow and it just ripped open
the cut. So it wasn't on purpose,

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and it was a terrible, terrible
injury. And as you know,

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it's there's nothing to you know,
there's no muscle, there's no uh,

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you know whatever, there's no nothing
to right tissue. Yeah, you're right

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on the right on the bone.
Basically impossible for a cutman to keep that

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close for more than a few seconds. I don't you know, it was

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just a bad cut out. There's
been a lot of conversation about the corner

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not having the right medication in the
corner. I don't know if that's true

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or not, because I'm no medical
expert on closing wounds, but I'm gonna

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tell you this, the wound happened. Kim Zo easily wins round one,

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dominates round two, and I'm like, he's gonna wipe this guy out.

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He's gonna knock him out, He's
gonna you know, is he gonna get

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me my over? Here's the question? Uh? And I got the sue

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Ko and I'm taking the same thing. Watching the page. He looked,

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he looked really really really sharp for
one round and like two minutes and you

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know, fifty seconds of the second
round and you're like, this is gonna

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be a wipeout. And then the
the cut happened on the fact, on

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the accidental head, you know,
not the elbow, and it changed the

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whole fight. Obviously, he couldn't
see. It was clear it was coming

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down his face. It was all
over him. Fondora's dealing with his own

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shit because of the nose and the
and the mouth and the blood that he

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he's dealing with. But he,
you know, at least he could see.

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And a lot of fighters and I've
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they're gonna live to fight another day, and you know I can't see.

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The referee asked him, do you
want to continue? And he said yes.

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Now, he could have got out
of that fight right there before the

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end of round four. It would
have been a technical uh you know,

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it would have been a no contest. He could have he could have gotten

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out of it after like round five. And where we're so, that's where

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I want to pick up where it's
pretty confident he's ahead. That's what I

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was going to say. Decision.
I mean, the line of demarcation is

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the fourth round, right, And
then to reprise you into round four,

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did it surprise you because it surprised
me that his corner wasn't a little more

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proactive on this cut isn't going to
close. Bad things are only going to

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continue to happen with the blood.
I mean, it's a catch twenty two

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for everything you just said in the
build up about him being brave, the

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son of a Hall of Famer,
wanting to make mega money, wanting to

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show that you're that kind of guy
that will fight through this and win.

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But I just I thought long about
round four or five, go to the

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cards, and whatever happens happens,
and if the public demands a rematch,

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Go have a rematch. But to
me, to me, taking away the

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emotion of it, taking away with
the reaction is going to be if they

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made it so he can't come out
for the you know, for round five

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or for round six, where you're
pretty confident that he's winning on the cards,

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then you do that. You act
like the adult. I know the

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fighter is there, but you are
the corner. Your job is to do

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what's best for the fighter, period, end of story. Don't matter what

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I say, doesn't matter if a
fan booze, you do what you gotta

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do. And so as I look
here on the official scorecard after the fourth

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round of the fight, you know
when they could have clearly stopped to fight.

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So one judge after four it's thirty
eight thirty eight. It was actually

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thirty eight thirty eight across the board, so it would have been a draw.

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He would have kept this title.
After round five he's actually down on

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two score cards. But you're not
got a gamble. You could you could

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have probably got out of there at
the end of four, got a draw.

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No one would have said anything.
Yeah, you don't lose, you

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know, you lose your perfect record, But you know you live to fight

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another day. I thought they were
kind of derelict in the way that the

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courter operator now to Zoom. To
Zoo's credit, he wanted to fight.

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Yeah, the fighter wants to fight. We agree the fighter wants to fight.

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But in that I can't believe he
made it through twelve rounds like that.

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I know right now, especially with
the amount of blood in the third

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round. In the fourth round,
they had to know, we're not going

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to be able to close this.
This is not going to get any better

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unless they just believed, and they
they didn't seem to be encouraging him.

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Unless I missed this, They didn't
seem to be encouraging him. Go get

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him, Go get him out of
here, Go knock him out, unless

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they believe he can knock him out
here in the fourth round, the fifth

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round of the sixth round, and
then we don't have to worry about this

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anymore. But it's easy for us
to sit back and say that. But

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Zoom wanted to keep fighting, and
my god, it was Corey, and

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then let's win the Fundora. He
won, He won the fighter, he

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got his hand raised. What did
you think as the fight war on?

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Did you think Fundora was winning because
on the broadcast Abby they had on this

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first ever PBC on Amazon broadcast Joe
Gooseen doing the scoring. And if I'm

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not mistaken, he gave Fundorra like
seven rounds in a row. Did you

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have it that way? Did you? I had it? When the when

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the fight was overheaded a draw one
fourteen to one fourteen, and a lot

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of people had that. And you
know, in the end, the scores

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were close because it was you know, it was one it was a split

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decision. So it was one judge
had Tim Zuo winning one sixteen to one

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to twelve. One judge had it
the same score for Ferndor, and then

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one judge had it seven to five
fifteen one thirteen for Frondor. But I'll

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tell you this, I have all
respect for Ferndor. He's a class act.

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They acted appropriately everything, the way
that they handled things, uh,

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in the build up, taking the
fight on short notice and stepping up to

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the plate. And you know,
he's always been sort of a humble kind

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of guy. And and and I
was glad to see, uh, the

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way that they everybody got together able
to you know, a lot of respect

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between them. Tim Zu, God
bless him. Never once did anything other

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than you know, credit to the
guy that won the fight. Didn't last

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moment about the cut, just you
know, he just acted like you're supposed

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to act. Uh Now, all
that's said, it is my feeling,

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and I can't be proven right or
wrong. But my personal viewpoint is if

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the cut doesn't happen, that tim
Zu beats him up and just wins handily.

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My opinion, that did not happen
because when the fight happens, crazy

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shit happens, and that's that's boxing
you got to deal with, you know,

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of what's going on in the in
the let's call it the crucible of

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the fight. And tim Zu found
himself in the crucible of the fight and

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he came out the other end and
he has nothing to be ashamed of.

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Yeah, he lost a split decision, but you know with blood bloodshed that

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wasn't just blood. That was bloodshed
that was like you know, like I

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said, like not even like exaggerate, like a murder scene like a horror

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movie. And so hopefully, you
know, he heals up quick. And

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you know, there was a lot
of uh not straight talk if you will,

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about if there's what the status of
the rematch clause would be afterwards the

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Fondora team, Samson, Lukewitz's promoter, I'm quite sure that there's a rematch

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clause. I can't fathom that they
would have done this fight like this on

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twelve days notice without getting that assurance
skin him and that it's not a mandatory

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fight. But but Samson was up
there at the news conference afterwards at the

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Team Obilerina where both fighters were as
directly by members of the media and they

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both deferred and would not answer.
And then Tim then uh, you know,

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after after Tim and Fandora had their
say, Samson, who was his

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promoter of Fondora, basically was like
he was very, very shaky. His

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response, we have a verbal rematch. He's gonna probably have to wait.

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We're gonna do another fight. Obviously. Errol Spence in the ring afterwards,

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trying to talk that up, and
let me just say one thing as an

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aside, no offense to my man, Errol Spence, who I love.

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If they give Errol Spence a chance
to fight for the unified Jeromid Away title,

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getting his ass destroyed, it didn't
just lose losing, I get it,

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that's that happens. I'm not I'm
not anti, you know, don't

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give a guy a shot if he
loses. Fandora's coming off of loss in

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this fight, got knocked out by
Mendoza about one every other round of the

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fight. Errol Spence at a lower
weight got absolutely destroyed by Errol's by by

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Terrence Crawford. Yep. And to
me, the demand from the public,

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if you're gonna put Fondora in a
fight for those titles, it should be

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either a rematch with tim Zo or
it should be Terrence Crawford. Not great,

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A great, There's no there's no
momentum for that. I don't care

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what they were trying to do there
in the ring. And let's credit Fundorra.

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You said it, but let's credit
him further. He knew he had

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broken his nose. He said that
after the fight first round. He fought

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through eleven more rounds through a broken
nose and laid it on the line.

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I know the opponent's bleeding badly,
gory, brutal, but he gets his

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hand raised and it gets very intriguing. Now at one point fifty four because

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of this next Yeah, you know, I say it all the time.

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Sometimes you're the windshielding. Sometimes you're
the bug. And a year ago he

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got knocked out cold basically by Mendoza. Everybody is on case. Oh he

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was never much, he was nothing, blah blah blah. He takes the

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time off, he gets himself together, he comes back, he takes the

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fight against against Boachuk on the undercard
and and gets called up to the main

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event. When Thurman has the injury
and he doesn't not take it. He

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accepts it easily and he goes in
there, you know, and again circumstances

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occur, and at the end he
won the fight. Whether you think that

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if the injury didn't happen, Zoo
would have one is irrelevant. You know,

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we can talk about it. But
at the end of the day,

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he fought the twelve rounds under some
dress himself because of the blood. Maybe

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not as much as what Zoo was
dealing with, but they both were handicapped

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to some degree. And two judges
thought it was pretty close and he gave

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it to him, and one just
thought it was pretty close and gave it

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to Tim Zoo, and uh,
nobody complained. They acted like class I

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just I can't, I can't.
That encapsulates everything that went on encapsulates what

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boxing should be, including the bull
should have bet the rematch clause, you

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know, because there's no clarity on
that. I mean, you know,

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in my mind, I hate rematch
pauses to begin with. So whatever,

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But if anybody deserves a rematch,
it's Tim Zoo. Yes, Theater of

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the unexpected. He got a much
tougher night. He more than showed what

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a warrior he is. We overuse
that. What a warrior though, to

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try to fight through that, and
I know you love nostalgia. We're gonna

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move on to the rest of the
card. It made me immediately think of

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two fights in the way back Sean
O'Grady WBC lightweight title fight that he was

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winning in nineteen eighty and I went
back in YouTube this and watched it,

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and he suffered a clash of heads, a butt whatever against Jim Watt in

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Scotland live fight on us TV,
a fight that he's winning, a fifteen

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round title fight, nasty two or
three inch vertical gash in the middle of

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the forehead, bleeding everywhere for two
rounds. They stopped the fight. That

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was two rounds, Dan two rounds, as you know. And then the

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Vito and a Fermo rematch with Marvin
Hagler had a clash of heads in the

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first round up on the hairline.
He's bleeding profusely. They had all the

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controversy of where they're going to stop
the fight after one round in d Q

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Hagler or not. That's what anna
Fermo's quarter one. I thought of both

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of those fights immediately, because you
and I are savants about this. I

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don't have the mental roll index you
do on gore factor. But anti Fermo

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was bleeding all over the place for
four rounds and they finally stopped the fight

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and awarded it to Hagler TKO in
the end result of the two reference points,

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but they didn't bleed for ten rounds
like tim Zu did. Graphically horribly

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wow, I mean me. I
actually thought that, like there needed to

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be an adult in the room and
that the fight probably should have been stopped

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at some point. I can go
to the cards or yeah, no,

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no, no contest event. Do
you believe just clarify it because you have

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the insight. Do you believe there
would have been any hesitation or dispute on

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accidental foul? Go to the cards
versus it's a TKO. He can't continue

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fundural wins because some might argue that
that the inexperience, maybe in Zoo's corner,

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was the fear they're gonna stop this
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If it was, yeah, I
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because they knew it was an accidental
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That's my perspective anyway. I mean, somebody could tell me I'm wrong,

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but just in totality before we get
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just taking the bird's eye view of
the whole thing, This was a hell

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of a show. And if you
bought the fight for the seventy bucks,

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the sixty nine ninety five, you
damn well got your money's worth. Because

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the two preliminary fights that were free
on Prime, which was the Kermo Moten

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the young Prospect, the one hundred
and thirty pounder, he finally went some

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rounds. He won every round basically, but it was a fun fight to

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watch. The other preliminary with Mendoza
was a heck of a fight with Boachuk,

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and then can we go on through
the pay per view card, But

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I mean the pay per view as
a total event was a very very good,

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interesting entertaining. Hey, you're never
gonna forget the main event for the

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first ever PPC Amazon Car because of
the gruesome factors. So Fundora is the

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champ on the split decision win.
Immediately before that, Isaac Pittbull Cruz scored

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an impressive TKO knockout win for the
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You and I both believe Cruz would
win, but the end result is a

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knock out. What did I tell
you, pulm old Romero. As it

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turns out, I told you that
I just didn't see what all the hype

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about Romero was. Ever, his
resume stinks out loud. He's never being

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anybody. His biggest win quote unquote
win was Barroso, which was bullshit.

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The way that they gave it to
him. It's not his fault, but

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the way that the referee gave him
that fight, you know, out of

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the goodness of his heart, by
that premature, terrible stoppage. If you

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go besides that, what does he
have like a you know, he got

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knocked out by Tank Davis and he's
got what I think a win that he

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barely barely won. Against like Jackson
Marinez. I mean, the guy just

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doesn't have you know, he's a
great talker and fans sort of enjoy the

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stick and everything. But in terms
of like world class boxing ability, you

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know, and a guy that you
think might be like something special, you

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know, serious world championship type of
guy. I mean, I can't tell

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you that. I'm I'm know everything
about boxing, I know a lot,

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but I just never saw that.
I just think, you know, he

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doesn't have a lot of fights.
That was only a seventeenth professional fight,

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and he's got a resume that you
know what, he beat Anthony Ygott,

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Okay, that's okay. Like I
said, Marinas, he got he was

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kind of lucky to get that win. He just has never fought anybody now

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Pitbull and he also was a lightweight
that had moved up and Pitbull crew.

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Maybe not have the deepest resume ever, but he throws a lot of punches.

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You know, he he looking to
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he willing to fight the best guys. He doesn't make a big thing about

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it. He's just let me get
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And uh, I just felt like
his aggression and the way that he threw

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punches. I thought it would go
longer obviously in terms of my my pick

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on the fight, but I picked
pipoll to Cruz to win this fight.

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I just think Roly Romero again,
I'm not, I'm not. I'm nothing

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against him personally, I mean whatever, just as a fighter, the most

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overrated guy that we've seen in quite
some time. And I'm not Monday morning

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quarterbacking. I've been quite some time, so this is not something new.

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I mean, so Pitbull was a
big fan favorite. I mean, the

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crowd was going absolutely crazy for him. I mean he's probably I don't know,

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maybe is he the most popular Mexican
fighter right now other than Canelo Alvarez

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that you know, in terms of
active fighters. It's it's not out of

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the realm. I think it's a
pretty good chance. But yeah, I

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look at Benavidez. I'm not you
know, not the Mexican America. I'm

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talking about like Mexican national in the
country of Mexico. I'll tell you this,

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I'm pretty sure that when Pittbull,
who's been fighting mostly on undercards,

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I can't imagine his next fight unless
it's on like a big, big pay

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per view, that his next fight
should be probably the main event defending this

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logical question. You know, I
was coming here. Is Gervonte Davis on

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the radar at some point, maybe
not next, but I mean he gave

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Davis a good fight and wants a
rematch, and now he's got a title.

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I think the fact that he's got
a title first of all. You

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know, Tank has not shown any
interest at the moment anyway to go to

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one hundred and forty. I think
before you tangle with the rematch, in

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my mind, you go out there
and you make a bigger star, You

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make some fights with some other junior
Walter rates, you make some money.

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That's the name of the game,
and you put on you can put on,

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you know, two or three good
fights and then maybe the Tank rematch

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will present itself. He doesn't need
Tank right now. What he needs to

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do is just stick to what he's
been doing. Fight some good guys,

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make exciting fights, get the fans
revved up, you know, and you'll

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make some good money and make a
good legacy. But the Tank fight will

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be there at some point. But
you know, I thought that was a

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really good port he look In the
first round, he beat up Roly Romero,

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so bad that I scored the round
ten to eight with no knockdown,

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and I was happy to see that
one of the judges on the official score

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cards also scored that fight ten rounds
to eight or ten to eight on that

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round because of that. Now I
must get into the one aspect of this.

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I know. Thank god the cards
didn't matter because he stopped them in

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round seven. But let's talk for
a minute. Can we teach you about

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Chris Flores? All right? You
know where I'm going with this. Chris

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Flores. Chris Lawes was one of
the judges on this fight, and Chris

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Lauris do you know? Okay,
I didn't know his name, but I

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knew you were going at the judge
eventually. And this is the judge that

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I can't say it with a straight
voice, right Phiel. He had roly

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winning the fight at the time of
the stoppage. That is just I don't

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even have words to describe the unconscionability. Is that a word? Don King

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word? Unconscionability? So how about
incompetent? Is that incompetent scoring? Point

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blank? Yeah? I mean,
how else could you look at it?

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Now? Here's the thing that I
didn't like about this. Chris Floores worked

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Friday night in Glendale, Arizona,
and was a judge on the Oscar Valdez

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fight against Liam Wilson. To me, why are you bringing in a judge

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from Arizona the next day after he
worked late, you know, that show

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in Arizona to bring in the next
day. You get your rest, Get

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a guy fresh, Get a guy
that's got a good night's sleep, Got

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a guy that's not traveling, that's
you know, that's there that you don't

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have to go running around and then
sell many a down at ringside. So

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I feel like the Commission is partly
responsible for that, for making an assignment

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unnecessarily. There's there's a pool of
judges that's you know, you know,

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a couple dozen deep they could choose
from. You know, Chris Floores didn't

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need that assignment in my opinion,
after having worked a world title fight in

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a different state the night before.
So that's the first thing about that.

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Now, in terms of the fight
itself, in terms of that scorecard,

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you have the two other judges.
You have Patricia Morris Jarman, who's had

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her issues in the past. She's
got Pitbull had sixty eight to sixty four,

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perfectly legitimate scorecard. I didn't agree. I thought it was wider,

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but okay, I can't really quarrel
with that. Max de Luca, from

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a California based judge, been one
of the top judges for a long time.

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He had at sixty nine to sixty
three, and him and Jarmin they

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both gave him a round number three. I like that scorecard. That was

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fine, that was legit, that
was on the money. So we have

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Pitbull winning the fight handling. Then
we got Chris Flora. So I don't

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know. I'm not out saying he's
a bad person. I'm just saying you

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cannot under any fucking circumstances have Roly
Romero winning that fight. Here's the kicker,

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by the way, TJ he had
Rolli winning the fight sixty six to

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sixty five at the time in the
knockout, and he was the judge that

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gave the first round ten to eight
in favor of Isaac Kruz, so he

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gave him the extra point in round
one and still fucking had really ahead in

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the fight. That is preposterous.
He only gave Pitbull round one and round

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seven. He gave Roly Romero the
rest of the fight. I want to

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fucking throw off from that depth.
So that is just really well. We

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keep going back to accountability, and
we've we've discussed this over and over again

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for the couple of years that you
and I have been together. At what

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point do you hold somebody like that
accountable that? And you've just brought up

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a great circumstance. This is why
we love your insight. Why why did

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the Las Vegas Commission have him in
there when he was working the night before

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in another state and having to travel
and maybe that affected things too, But

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where's the accountability on horrible scorecard in
a big time fight like this. You're

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not working another championship fight for another
six months or a year in that jurisdiction.

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I mean, where's the I don't
know if it's not about being punished.

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If you don't, you so what
he comes back and does another city

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cart in six months. Put him
in some training, have him do a

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workshop, get a little like tutorial. Let's let's uh, let's go on

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practice a little bit, you know, uh, and make sure that we

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can get it right. I mean
the same way a boxer of spars and

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practices or a basketball player goes to
practice. We talking about practice, but

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this is important for us, so
that that was just such a fucking shitty

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score partially is just ridiculous. And
you know what, it will be lost

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to history because Pitt Bull got the
knockout and the two other judges had him

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a head. But it still doesn't
change the fact that it was horredinous what

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but what do you always say the
Lennox Lewis famous line, bring your own

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judges? Just thank god? And
you're left all right, finish up on

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that card. You said in the
preview mode that you were not going to

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spend seven seconds on eras Landy Laura
Michael Zarafa the Australian. It's a knockout

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for Laura. Do you want to
spend more than seven seconds to say anything

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else about it before you move on? Well, I'll say this about Lara.

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He's forty years old. He's still
a good fighter. I never knocked

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his talent or his ability. He's
got an excellent straight left hand that can

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knock out a lot of guys.
Uh and he won the fight far and

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square. I take nothing away from
it. Was a nice knockout in the

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secon round. Nothing really had happened
in round one, barely anything had happened

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around two, and then like in
the last couple of seconds of the round,

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he landed a beautiful straight left hand
and put poor Michael zaro Off out

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of his misery. Michael's are Off
been waiting around for this mandatory since like

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February twenty twenty two, traveled all
the way from Australia, and I'm not

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sure it was worth it because he
never really had a shot to win in

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my opinion. But what irritates about
Arisloni Lara is not the man's ability,

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because he's a good fighter. I
can't knock over that. He's been a

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champion, he's you know, he's
a top amateur. He's you know,

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he was in the Fight of the
Year against Jared Herd back in twenty eighteen

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and let it all hang out.
I mean, he was a tremendous fight.

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But the thing that has irritated the
fuck out of me is the inactivity.

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One fight in twenty nineteen, one
one fight in twenty twenty one,

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thout, one fight in twenty twenty
one, one fight in twenty twenty two,

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no fights in twenty twenty three,
and now his cameo here in twenty

405
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twenty four. I don't think I'm
going out on a limb to say I'll

406
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:45,559
be shocked that he's back in the
ring before the end of this year.

407
00:24:45,839 --> 00:24:49,480
So he's had all those five fights
since the middle of twenty nineteen, and

408
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:53,160
every one of them has been against
a crap opponent. He's not fought anybody.

409
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,319
He fought Ramon Alvarez, Canelo's brother, who's not Canelo. He fought

410
00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,079
a club fighter from the from the
Northeast, you know, New engl and

411
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,160
Greg Vendetti. Thomas Lamana doesn't belong
anywhere near a world title fight. Gary

412
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,119
ridiculous to have him in a world
title fight. And now Zarafa who it's

413
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,480
not even lauris fault because the WBA
my good friends over there and made this

414
00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:14,640
dude the mandatory. So the guy
fights once a year if you're lucky,

415
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,039
and he gets in, he takes
care of business against guys that can't hold

416
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:19,839
his jocke and it's out. I
mean, it's just ridiculous. So that's

417
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,400
me was a wasted spot on an
otherwise outstanding card, all right. So

418
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:30,039
then Julio saysar Martinez l Ray gets
his decision win over Angel Cordova and keeps

419
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:36,079
his WBC one twelve pound title.
A quick on that and the recap.

420
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,319
This was a hell of a fight. This is what really sort of made

421
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,519
the pay per view in terms of
besides the main event, we had a

422
00:25:41,599 --> 00:25:45,680
tremendous battle between l Ray and Cordova. Remember they were supposed to fight each

423
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,119
other in December, you know what, but Martinez had some visa issue was

424
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,000
not able to get it squared away, and it was canceled off of that

425
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,400
final showtime card. But they promised
they would put it back on and these

426
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,119
guys, they gave a great battle. They let it all hang out.

427
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,839
This was the opening fight on the
pay per view. Original it was gonna

428
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,279
be on the free streaming, but
because the when the card got pitt a

429
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,680
little bit rejiggered after the therm and
injury, they put this into the pay

430
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,440
per view position. When they switched
a couple of things around, and you

431
00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:14,279
got your moneys where these guys went
tooth and nail for twelve rounds. Cordovo

432
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:17,039
got knocked down twice in the third
round was kind of weird. I don't

433
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:18,160
know if you saw that part of
it, but he wasn't really hurt on

434
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,279
those shots. It was really jabs. I put him on his rear end,

435
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,319
and those two knockdowns kept Martinez.
You know, from from I guess

436
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,400
it would have been a few add
up the way that the scores were,

437
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:33,160
I believe it would have been a
draw had he not gotten those two knockdotowns,

438
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,440
but he still would have kept the
title. But that was a really

439
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,000
really outstanding fight to start things off. You gotta love the little guys.

440
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,240
And you know, Martinez is this
fun of fighter out there to watch.

441
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:42,480
His only bugaboo has been, you
know, getting in the ring. He's

442
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,960
had fights canceled, postponing this and
that, visa this and and you know,

443
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,480
lots of issues here and there.
He was sick one time. But

444
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,079
when he gets rolling, really good
fighter and really fun to watch, vulnerable

445
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,200
but exciting and uh, you know, even though Cordova lost, I'll watch

446
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,880
him again any day. He showed
a little bit of a little bit of

447
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,519
a showmanship and you know, it
was fun to watch also, So do

448
00:27:00,559 --> 00:27:03,440
you like those little guys. You
know, Julio Caesar Martinez is as fun

449
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,960
to watch as anybody in him and
Cordova made a good fight. I wouldn't

450
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,759
had seen a rematch of that fight
if they made it. And listen,

451
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,160
there was a lot of action,
There were knockouts, and the main event

452
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:17,400
will be memorable for the gruesomeness and
the upset by Fondora beating Tim Zoo,

453
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,880
who was a five to one favorite
and screwing up a potential Tim Zuo Terrence

454
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,400
Crawford that had been whispered about for
now. Let's see if we get a

455
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,839
rematch in that, so that puts
the fight card to bed. You got

456
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,839
anything else for that fight, cars, it's gonna touch real quick. On

457
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,519
the second of the two fights on
the preliminaries, which were free on Prime,

458
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,920
and that was Boachuk one hundred and
fifty four pounds contender against Brian Mendoza,

459
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,960
who had been on standby in case
they needed somebody where he was in

460
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:45,839
camp with Zoo and you know he
ain't prepared, and that was They made

461
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,960
that for the vacant WBC interim title, even though obviously the under you know,

462
00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:52,559
the main event was for the vacant
title, but titles aside, these

463
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:53,400
guys put on a hell of a
show also. I mean, it was

464
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,839
a one sided fight in favor of
Boachuk. But Mendoza's you know, you

465
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,079
gotta love the guy because he just
never quits, never die, keeps on

466
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,640
coming forward. He had him a
big moment there in the eleventh round where

467
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:08,160
he almost knocked Bohachuk down and had
him a little bit staggered. But Boachuk,

468
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,400
let me tell you, dude's thirty
good puncher. That's the first time

469
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000
he ever went twelve round went the
distance in any fight, whatever number of

470
00:28:15,079 --> 00:28:18,480
rounds was scheduled for. He'd either
scored knocked outs in his victories or he

471
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:22,480
went in one fight that he lost
was a stoppage loss, so he saw

472
00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:25,559
a final bell or hurt a final
bell. And it was a really good

473
00:28:25,599 --> 00:28:27,279
fight. So when I say it
was a hell of a card, I

474
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,079
mean in the totality of the pay
per view event and then the two additional

475
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,839
fights around the preliminary stream. Really
it was a great night at the fights.

476
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640
I gotta be honest, it was
excellent, all right, good stuff

477
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:44,000
on that Now, simultaneous on Saturday
night in Inglewood, California, the Golden

478
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:48,359
Boy de Own show history for Zerdo
Ramirez, and I gotta give you props.

479
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480
I did go out on the Limb
on the bet Us Show and take

480
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,359
Arson Gula Mirian to retain his WBA
Cruise Awey title again. He had not

481
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:02,000
had a lot of noteworthy fights making
his US and the bottom line is Zerdo

482
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:06,480
moves up to cruiserweight and dominated for
twelve rounds, got an easy twelve round

483
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:08,759
decision, and he makes history in
the process doing it there in the main

484
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:12,640
event. Yeah, I mean he
did a very very good job. He

485
00:29:12,839 --> 00:29:17,400
was able to box Gula Marian.
He was able to stand in the pocket

486
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,720
and make him miss and make him
pay. He landed so many more punches

487
00:29:21,599 --> 00:29:23,400
than Arson did you No, Arson, and Gula Marian is a pretty good

488
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,160
fighter. I think it's not like
he's a bump. I said this in

489
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,640
the pre fight stuff. You may
not have really ever heard of him,

490
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,359
but you had taken a few minutes
and just looked at him on a on

491
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,480
a YouTube video, you would have
realized that he's not just some you know,

492
00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:40,839
some guy that's not a good fighter, not capable of being there.

493
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,240
He just couldn't keep up with the
diverse game that Zerdo brought to this fight.

494
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:48,480
Whether it was his ability to move
latterly, which is not the kind

495
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,720
of thing you typically see from him, the south BLUs stance, a lot

496
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,200
of punch output. I mean really
just in all facets of the game,

497
00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,599
did a really good job. In
the copy box. Again, that's a

498
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:03,119
guide, was overwhelming in favor of
Zerto. He landed like four times as

499
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,039
many or three at least three times
as many punches overall for the fight as

500
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,000
uh as gold Marian did any threw
you know, like one hundred plus more

501
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,400
and landed at like a much much
higher percentage. So when you when you

502
00:30:14,519 --> 00:30:18,759
best your opponent all three categories and
it spread out over the period of fight,

503
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:19,480
you know you're gonna win, by
the way. And this is what

504
00:30:19,599 --> 00:30:22,319
really tells me when if you again, if you look at the stats and

505
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,240
use it as a guide, he
didn't. Just according to their statistical breakdown,

506
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:30,839
he outlanded gol Marian in every single
round. But it wasn't like ten

507
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:36,400
punches to nine or twenty two to
like nineteen. He was out landing him

508
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,400
by numerous punches in every single round. And uh and that's that that spells

509
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,680
a victory. Teen He one eighteen
to one ten on all three score cards.

510
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,880
And you gotta love the history because
first of all, think about what

511
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,720
we're where. Rare Miras was not
that long ago. He had been absolutely

512
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:00,319
uh dominated and just did nothing.
Look horrible in as big as fight of

513
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,799
his career to that point where he
lost to Bevil in a virtual shutout decision

514
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:07,640
for the light heavyweight title that he'd
been begging for. That fight, loss

515
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,640
his undefeated record and got absolutely played
with. Was supposed to have a fight

516
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:15,440
after that at light heavyweight, was
so overweight, didn't even comes to the

517
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,920
way in the fight, got canceled
a really messed up Golden Boys card.

518
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,960
They had to put the undercard in
and it was just a disaster. Now

519
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,240
he moves up the cruiserweight, but
only at one hundred and ninety three,

520
00:31:23,319 --> 00:31:26,400
not the full two hundred that was. Last October, he fights Joe Smith,

521
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,480
a good fighter but similar in terms
of a light heavyweight moving up,

522
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,839
and he looked great in that fight
and he got the ten round decision,

523
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,720
but it still made your question,
how's he going to do with a guy

524
00:31:36,079 --> 00:31:40,920
that's a bonafide strong two hundred pound
you know, tough dude with experience and

525
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:45,319
has a title and all that.
And we saw against Glmarian he really looked

526
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,200
excellent, and you gotta love it. He makes the history that you mentioned,

527
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,799
I'll just shoot I'll let you know
what that history was, because it's

528
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:57,039
pretty impressive. He becomes the first
ever Mexican cruiserweight champion. Number one,

529
00:31:57,759 --> 00:32:01,880
he becomes the heaviest Mexican born fighter
to ever win a world title. I've

530
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,200
heard people talk about, well,
Andre Uries won the heavyweight belts. Okay,

531
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:07,440
I don't take anything away for Andreuries. And yes, of course he's

532
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,519
Mexican, but he's he was not
born in Mexico. He's not a Mexican

533
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,720
national. So if you want to
do it in the statistical way that I

534
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,759
just mentioned, he's the first or
the heaviest ever Mexican warn fighter to be

535
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,319
a world champion. He surpassed the
previous history that was Canelo as when he

536
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:30,960
won a light heavyweight title in twenty
nineteen, who also had matched the accomplishment.

537
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,519
And this guy has been forgotten in
this conversation. A lot of people

538
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:36,920
mistakenly referred to it as only Canelo
having done it. But there was an

539
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,720
excellent fighter back in the early two
thousands that might be known by fighting Roy

540
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:44,400
Jones for the light heavyweight title.
But he went over to Germany named Julio

541
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:50,680
Gonzalez from the southern California area,
and he took on in the WBO title

542
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:53,440
challenge the undefeated Darius Mikkelchesi, who
was forty eight and oh at that time,

543
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,880
there was a lot of tough stuff
talking about how he's going to try

544
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,440
to match the Rocky Marciano number at
forty nine to zero, even though it

545
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,000
was a different weight class. And
he went and uh and and Gonzalez,

546
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:07,200
you know who died several years ago. Unfortunately, uh, he pulled a

547
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,519
huge upset and one one. And
the reason why I don't forget about Julio

548
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:14,160
Gonzalez is because I remember when he
was at the airport on the way back

549
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,759
to the United States after this glorious
victory that uh, you know, was

550
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:21,160
a huge front page story in Germany. Uh. I did an interview with

551
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,079
him at the airport and wrote a
story about it for USA Today, and

552
00:33:23,559 --> 00:33:28,160
he was crying in that interview because
he was so happy, croud of that

553
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,960
accomplishment. And I also had,
you know, interviewed him other times because

554
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,559
I had covered his fight with Roy
Jones for the light heavyweight time because at

555
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:37,440
that time, just to repeat it, he had become the heaviest Mexican to

556
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,680
ever win a title at that time, and then Canelo matched it, and

557
00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,720
now Sdo has surpassed me more notably
though, that was such a huge upset

558
00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:49,559
when he came in. Uh.
But so anyway, Zerdo Ramirez goes beyond

559
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,559
what those two guys did. One
more thing. Three years ago, he's

560
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:58,759
defending the WBO super middleweight title before
he fought Bevil. He now wins a

561
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,039
cruiserweight title three three years later.
That's something to be said for that too.

562
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,039
It's not like he's been spending the
last three years at light heavyweight and

563
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:08,400
then a cruiserweight Listen to line.
Yeah, when our pal Chris Mannix was

564
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,079
interviewing him in the ring after the
fight, and Chris asked him about having

565
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:16,400
the confidence to stand there basically in
front of this big, strong guy,

566
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,119
Uh, you know, you know
what, what what made what gave you

567
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,280
that confidence he had? He smiled
and he basically said, you know,

568
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,159
he was speaking in English, he
said, he said, I'm a big

569
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,599
boy. Like in other words,
I'm a big boy also, and you

570
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,079
know he looked pretty good. I
mean, and you know, I don't

571
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,519
know how you do against you know
Ji Opataia or some of the other cruiserweights,

572
00:34:31,559 --> 00:34:35,679
Miris Bradst and all that. But
uh, you know, his design

573
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,559
is to to unify if he can
do so in the cruiserweight division. He

574
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,079
talked about in the pre fight about
eventually trying to make a move and but

575
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,760
in the heavyweight division. So look, Zero did a good job. He

576
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,519
won the fight, he won the
title, he made history doing it,

577
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,840
had a lot of fans there,
and uh, you know, he's another

578
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,400
big win for for Golden Boy.
As a promoter, I told you,

579
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,960
folks, we got a lot to
go over. Let's go quickly. Alexis

580
00:34:57,039 --> 00:35:00,519
Roche won on the undercard at the
Golden Boys show in Inglewood. Thought on

581
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,280
his TKL went over Frederic Lawson.
Yeah, I thought that. I thought

582
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,119
that Roachid did a good job.
I mean, you know, he was

583
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:09,440
in a kind of a rough spot
after what happened in the fall when he

584
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,880
he suffered a you know, kind
of a big surprising upset knockout lost a

585
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,199
who was it the Giovanni Santion.
Uh that was a that was a bit

586
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,119
of a surprise. And here he
comes against Lawson, who had been stopped

587
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:27,360
in that very controversial first round by
Virgil Ortiz, and uh this was a

588
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719
matter of to get back, and
you know, he looked good. He

589
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,199
won every round. I mean,
look, he clearly he's the favorite to

590
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,000
do what he did. Uh,
So I'm not going to sit here and

591
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:37,239
tell you that it was some kind
of surprise that he did. But for

592
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,679
a guy coming off Lawson got stopped
by Ortiz and round one, but it

593
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,519
was a shit stoppage and he wasn't
really daving guard. He didn't get damaged

594
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,000
or anything like that. There was
a lot of controversies about that. But

595
00:35:46,119 --> 00:35:50,159
when when roach A lost to Santion, he got he got beat up.

596
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:52,760
I mean, he took a lot
of Halaysia shots, a lot of punishment.

597
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,719
He picked himself up, he got
back in the ring and he kicked

598
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:59,119
Frederick Lawson's ass. I mean,
the amount of punches that he landed.

599
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,199
It was just a total nomination.
The pressure and finally in the end,

600
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,960
you know, I was glad to
see the loss in corner did the right

601
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:07,840
thing by pulling him out of the
fight after the seventh round. So roach

602
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,800
is back. I mean, you
know, he he I don't know if

603
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,159
he's in ever be world champion,
but you know what, the welterweight division

604
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,920
is kind of wide open because Crawford
and Spencer out of there. I think.

605
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:20,280
I think alexis Rocha, who has
a great style to watch, a

606
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,079
good attitude, a good fan base, a golden boy, a promoter that

607
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:27,960
knows how to move their guys.
No reason whatsoever that he can't be back

608
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,400
in the mix for some kind of
you know, top fight eliminator, even

609
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:35,159
a world title fight. Good for
him. All right, let's back up

610
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:37,760
to Fronty Night against the recap podcast. The Fight Freaking Night recap pikers were

611
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,880
recapping everywhere. Let's go back to
that card you referenced in Glendale, Arizona,

612
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,880
where Oscar Valdez in the main event
for ESPN Plus and Top Rank,

613
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:53,239
scored a and a very impressive TKO
over Liam Wilson. The common opponent was

614
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:59,079
e Manuel Navoraatee had beaten both of
these guys, but Wilson had Navarate down,

615
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,639
had him hurt. Navarate eventually came
back and stopped him. All right,

616
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,159
since then Valdez had lost to Navorate
So this was kind of like you

617
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,719
said, the consolation bracket, the
losers bracket, who's gonna end up getting

618
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:15,360
the win, Valdez very impressive in
that main Evandi becomes the WBO interim junior

619
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,239
lightweight champ. Quick thoughts on what
you saw from Oscar Valdez Friday night.

620
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,519
Well, the reason why this was
so important for both these fighters is because,

621
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,719
yeah it was it was made the
interim title like basically the week of

622
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:29,679
the fight. But everybody knows that
the interim tag is most likely going to

623
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,639
be taken off of that and the
guy is going to become the full champion

624
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,360
because in May you have Navarete fighting
in the lightweight division for the vacant WBO

625
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,880
title. Now he'll be the favorite
against Denny Brenchick, but even if he

626
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,800
loses the fight, I'd be really
shocked if Navarette came back down to one

627
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,800
hundred and thirty pounds, just giving
all the problems he's had making the weight.

628
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,599
So this was sort of like they're
filling the vacancy before it becomes vacant.

629
00:37:50,639 --> 00:37:53,119
So Oscar Valdez, I believe at
some point in the spring where you

630
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:58,400
know certainly by like you know June
is going to become the full WBO title

631
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:00,760
or so he's going to be a
player. He's got probably one of the

632
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,599
biggest names in the weight class,
if not the biggest, and you know

633
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:06,960
he's right there for some big fights. First of all, similar to Tim

634
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:10,320
Zoo, Oscar Valdez is the ultimate
warrior. This guy will fight through anything.

635
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:14,000
You know, He's had injuries.
He fought through the broken jaw.

636
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,159
I always remember that fight because I
was there for that. Again, Scott

637
00:38:15,199 --> 00:38:19,199
Clig went big. Quig didn't make
the weight and he and he and he

638
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,400
had a broken jaw Oscar early in
the fight. Oscar val does one my

639
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,840
favorite fighters in boxing. I mean
him and Zoo both frankly, and in

640
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,880
the fact they were both fighting on
the same weekend. You know, I

641
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:30,800
was enjoying myself immensely watching those two
fights. Uh, he did a really

642
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,280
good job. I mean I thought
he would beat Liam Wilson. Lean Wilson

643
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,719
is a good fighter, but as
he made the point after the fight,

644
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,079
he's right, he didn't use his
brain. He's smarter. He should be

645
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:42,599
smarter. The way he fights.
He wasn't a smart fighter the way handled.

646
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,239
He was basically handling Wildez early by
using his length and his jab and

647
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,679
keeping him on the outside, and
he got he let Oscar Valdez do what

648
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,039
Oscar Valve does best, which is
drag him into a knock down, drag

649
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,800
out, grind it out, you
know, just a real rough war.

650
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,639
And he did not survive that,
and he got stopped. And I wasn't

651
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,119
a surprise to me. Valdez has
a good chin, he's got smarts,

652
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,480
he's got experience. This to me
was the epitome of an intelligent, a

653
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:15,920
veteran fighter that's not over the hill, imposing his not only imposing himself physically

654
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,440
on his opponent, but imposing himself
intelligently and mentally on his opponent, like

655
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,719
he was too smart for what Wilson
brought to the table. And I like

656
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,400
the fact that after the fight,
similar to the way I talked about the

657
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,679
way that Bernard Hopkins approached Kelly Pavlick, don't give up. I'll help you

658
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,039
stick to it. You've got a
chance. You know, you know this,

659
00:39:34,199 --> 00:39:35,920
you know, go back to the
drawing board, don't give up.

660
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,079
He had that sort of same pep
talk with Liam Wilson both in the ring,

661
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,679
and then they showed U afterwards them
in the dressing room. After the

662
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,800
fact. Valdez is just as nice
a guy outside the ring as you canna

663
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,400
ask for. And he's just a
fucking animal inside the ring. I just

664
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,239
love watching him fight. And he's
now in the position where he's going to

665
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,840
get other big fights because he's got
a great name and a great style and

666
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,960
a great fan base. So look, there was two big names that were

667
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,119
not big names, but two important
fighters that were there that are both with

668
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,960
Top Rank also that could loom as
a future opponent, Oshaki Foster, who's

669
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,840
the WBC champion, so by the
time he gets elevated, it could become

670
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,480
a unification fight. And you've got
Luis Alberto Lopez, who is the IBF

671
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:15,320
featherweight title holder, who was bursting
at the seams and wants to go up

672
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:19,239
in wait. That'd be a great
Mexican, all Mexican kind of fight.

673
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,800
And you know, Top Rank has
some other fighters in their stable, Consasao

674
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:24,599
and others at one hundred and thirty, I mean there are you know,

675
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:29,239
because that would be a rematch obviously
of some controversy that occurred in the past

676
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,280
when Valdez beat him. So he's
sitting pretty right now. He's overjoyed to

677
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,039
have another title and he deserved it. He did a heck of a job

678
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:38,400
against Liam Wilson, and it was
a packed arena looked like for whatever the

679
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:44,840
ticket availability was. It was a
big crowd in the Glendale Desert Diamond Arena.

680
00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,599
And I say that as we release
this podcast because I'm headed to stay

681
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,199
right beside that arena for the basketball
Final Four later this week because across the

682
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,440
street in the massive Arizona Cardinal Stadium
is where the basketball Yukon, Alabama,

683
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,239
Purdue, and c State games.
I'm literally staying next to that arena where

684
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,320
they fought the other night and in
the co features Sonissa Estrada became the four

685
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,400
belt strawweight women's world champ with a
ten round decision, and this was an

686
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,159
intriguing fight in that these two fighters
did not like each other. Estrada was

687
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:19,320
taunting her during the fight and landing
against you all, Costa Vaye, your

688
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,960
thoughts real quick in the recap mode
as Estrada gets her hand raised and is

689
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
the undisputed champ. Before I get
to that, I just thought of this

690
00:41:25,079 --> 00:41:29,280
other thing. As we were talking
about Liam Wilson and Valdez, and obviously

691
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,159
Navarette is an important figure in both
of their careers. We discussed the horrendous

692
00:41:34,159 --> 00:41:39,000
scorecard of Chris Flores that he had
in the Roly Romero hip Goal Cruse fight.

693
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:42,920
Thank god it wasn't needed because of
the knockout. And he also worked

694
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,280
as a judge in the Valdez fight
that happened on Friday night. He was

695
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:51,559
the referee in the Navarete Liam Wilson
fight that a lot of people were disgusted

696
00:41:51,639 --> 00:42:00,360
with because the perception that he gave
such a long count and and Liam Wilson's

697
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:08,159
point of view was that I was
robbed because it was like twenty for a

698
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:19,400
judge on the Romara fight, So
hick a discipline refer So yeah, it's

699
00:42:19,639 --> 00:42:23,360
it's definitely a controversial moment and again
a controversial scorecard as well. And a

700
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:29,199
lot of a lot of judges are
referees and the referees are used as judges

701
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:31,840
as well. But it's it's very
interesting on both of those Back to the

702
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,039
back, Yeah, yeah, that
was the other fight. Obviously. These

703
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,039
are two women that you know,
they came into this fight each having two

704
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:42,280
of the titles in the one hundred
and five pound way class bad blood,

705
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,840
like you mentioned, and they put
on a good fight. It was a

706
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,480
heck of a fight, A lot
of action. Uh Snissa Strada though similar

707
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:52,800
to like what I said about Valdez, I felt like she was the smarter

708
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,039
fighter. She was a little bit
more of a versatile fighter, and it

709
00:42:55,159 --> 00:42:59,599
was a close fight, and but
she got the decision I think she deserved.

710
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:01,480
I thought she won the fight.
It was a good fight. She

711
00:43:01,559 --> 00:43:07,519
won ninety was it ninety seven to
ninety three on all three of the scorecards?

712
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,000
You know? And Via was complaining
and her manager was complaining like it

713
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,159
was like the most controversial decision that
they ever saw in their life. I

714
00:43:15,159 --> 00:43:15,920
don't know what they were thinking.
I mean, you know, you can

715
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,719
be upset that you didn't win the
fight, that's fine, But I agree

716
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,960
with the judges. I talked to
some other people that were at the fight

717
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,960
that thought it the same thing.
Watching it from the more the vantage point

718
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,840
of not being on television but being
right there at ringside, she just did

719
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,840
a bit more, a little more
pinpoint with the punches. You know,

720
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,360
Via had her moments, but it
was really more one shot at a time.

721
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,679
And I thought one of the underrated
aspects of this fight was that the

722
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:44,440
defense that a Shoda showed, you
know, was pretty good. All things

723
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:46,559
considered, and she accomplishes what the
goal was, which was to become and

724
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:50,159
disputed. She's wanted this, you
know, we talked about it in the

725
00:43:50,159 --> 00:43:52,360
interview. She'd been boxing since since
she was eight years old, but before

726
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,920
there was even the notion that would
ever be like an undisputed women's champion for

727
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,559
any weight class boxing and the women's
side was a thing, but not as

728
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:04,119
it's being. And she's been along
that ride because she's not a spring chicken

729
00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:06,559
in terms of her career. She's
not an old woman, so only thirty

730
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:08,719
one years old, but she's been
a professional for like thirteen fourteen years.

731
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,840
So this is the culmination. I
don't know, you know, after accomplishing

732
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,800
this, I know she wants to
go back up and wait, probably to

733
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,800
fly Ways, maybe a Marlin,
a Spars, a rematch, but I

734
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,280
wouldn't be totally shocked if, you
know, a couple more fights and she

735
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,840
says, you know what I've done
what my dream was, and I'm gonna

736
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:24,840
you know, I'm going to retire. Got my health. She can go

737
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,679
on and do other things, she
can talk about boxing, you know,

738
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,360
do whatever she wants to do.
But this was the culmination of a lot

739
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:35,239
of things she's worked hard for for
a very very long time. And again

740
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,480
it's it's worth mentioning that a lot
of these women, even as champions,

741
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:40,320
don't make a whole lot as it
is. So she's she made good money.

742
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,960
He's in that position right now.
So cash in is my point on

743
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,760
it. I think she made if
my sources are accurate, she made around

744
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,639
four hundred thousand dollars for that fight. There you go, and so there's

745
00:44:51,679 --> 00:44:54,639
a strong likelihood she'd make many She's
she's been making that type of money for

746
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,559
recent fights, so there's a there's
a strong likelihood there might even be a

747
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:00,920
little more in a fighter too.
And then you're good, and she's got

748
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,800
a commentary career as well. That
that awaits for Sonissa Estrada, who now

749
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:12,440
has the four belts. So we're
at about forty or forty two minutes.

750
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,760
How's your phone batter you good?
I'm looking yeah, I like thirty one

751
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,679
percent. All right, So let's
do the Let's do the boxer, and

752
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,719
then we'll get through the news.
You want to do all these news items?

753
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:22,840
You got five news items. We
can kill a couple of you,

754
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,800
all right, Well, we can
kill uh Shalom on the Bill, Im

755
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,639
Smith and Rock of Porcaus. It's
not I don't have to hear you talk

756
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:32,880
about his mother's breast cancer liketed for
the eightieth time. It's a great story.

757
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,000
We love great stories. Here we
go, all right, so just

758
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,599
so we're gonna to kill. We're
going to bring back up that the WBC

759
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:46,320
still hasn't tripped Jamal Charlow. Okay, here we go three two. All

760
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,719
right, wait, there's more.
There's one more fight card. Oh it's

761
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,280
like against you a knife. We
yes, we keep doing this. How

762
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,000
much would you pay now? Nineteen
ninety five twenty nineinety five, there was

763
00:45:55,039 --> 00:46:01,760
a Sunday afternoon boxer promotion Sky Sports, the UK Peacock streaming app in the

764
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,119
US heavyweight fight and Rayfiel before I
hit the record button, going, we

765
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,840
got to talk about this heavyweight Wardley
Clark showdown for the British heavyweight titles.

766
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:16,599
All right, it's on a platter
for you here. I did not see

767
00:46:16,679 --> 00:46:21,639
this again with all the NCAA tournament
basketball. You're telling me you gotta see

768
00:46:21,679 --> 00:46:23,960
it, you gotta see it,
Okay, I have like we always keep

769
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,320
it real. Here, I must
confess I couldn't. I did not watch

770
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,599
the entire fight. I didn't sit
there and score the fight. I was

771
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,239
kind of going back and forth.
I was watching the duke game. I

772
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,840
actually had to go out for something
else I had to do with my family

773
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,320
for a little while. Had on
my phone, so I wasn't paying super

774
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:44,000
close attention, but I did see
enough of it to get the feel.

775
00:46:44,199 --> 00:46:45,760
And then I saw what some of
the people were writing about and tweeting about

776
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,840
and all that these guys put on
a barn burner. I mean, let

777
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,320
me just say, this was a
great fucking boxing weekend. There was no

778
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,320
big megafight, but there was a
If you were a boxing fan, sure

779
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,199
and you're not happy after this week
and then you need to find another planet

780
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:06,440
get something out of this weekend.
Xerdo was a good fight. The Valdez

781
00:47:06,519 --> 00:47:07,519
card was the heck of a card. The pay per view was outstanding.

782
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,679
Wardley and and uh uh and Fraser
Clarks threw down. You know, you

783
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,639
had all kinds of good stuff going
on. Uh but these guys really went

784
00:47:15,679 --> 00:47:17,880
to battle, and in the end
it turned out to be a majority I

785
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:22,760
split draw, I should say.
Uh So, there was so much shit

786
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:23,599
going on in this spot. I
can't even keep it all straight. I'm

787
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,559
gonna actually have to go back and
watch the rest of Fraser Clark, you

788
00:47:27,639 --> 00:47:32,159
know, the undefeated Olympic medalists from
twenty twenty Tokyo taking on his British countryman,

789
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,400
Fabio Wardley, who was defending the
British and the Commonwealth heavyweight titles important

790
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,719
UH titles in in UH in the
UK. Clark went got knocked down in

791
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,360
the route in the fifth round he
got deducted a point in UH. I

792
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:52,840
think it was round seven for low
blows. But Wardley suffered some tremendous facial

793
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,760
damage to it, a like his
nose was so when there was a period,

794
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,360
like he didn't look white like Tim
Zoo because it wasn't on the scout,

795
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,320
but his nose sort of like what
was going on with Fondort, was

796
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,679
just a mask of blood. By
the end of the fight. I mean,

797
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,840
these guys put on what did I
say in the preview? I said,

798
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:14,239
I hope these two guys just put
on a good old fashioned heavyweight slober

799
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,119
knocker, and that's what they did. They put on a heavyweight slobbery knocker,

800
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,920
and like I said, I couldn't
pay close attention to the whole thing

801
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,760
for various reasons. But I am
definitely going back on my Peacock app and

802
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,119
I will find it on you on
Demand, which they have all the events

803
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:31,119
that they've done in their archive there. It's very easy to use. You

804
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:36,360
can skip forward to it easily.
Well, I pay for the version that

805
00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:40,599
the commercials. But the point is
another heavyweight fight, and I guess they

806
00:48:40,639 --> 00:48:45,199
had it on my I actually asked
Ben Shalumniz, who's the boxer promoter?

807
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,360
Why are you guys doing this fight
on a Sunday, which is obviously a

808
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,440
little bit unusual. Apparently I have
some kind of like banker holiday in the

809
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,519
UK, so nobody's working on Monday. So they decided to do the fight

810
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:55,880
on Sunday. Which where in London
where this took place. It was the

811
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,519
evening when it was going on,
obviously afternoon here in the United States.

812
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,280
But that's the reason why I was
on a Sunday, because they didn't uh

813
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,760
they were able to do that with
the work schedule in Sky Sports like to

814
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,159
Weick take, the logical thing is
they got to do this again? Will

815
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:09,480
they do it again? Soon after? It ends up being a draw and

816
00:49:09,519 --> 00:49:12,559
there's no winner. You know,
I don't know. I mean I didn't

817
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:15,039
hear I didn't hear the postfight interviews, to tell you the truth, So

818
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:16,719
I don't know what they were saying
afterwards. But just on the face of

819
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,480
it, it would seem like after
that kind of fight that a rematch would

820
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:23,880
still probably be the biggest fight for
both guys out there. Uh, you

821
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,639
know, I'm not sure what the
appetite for Worthy to do that again is.

822
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:30,000
He might be able to go on
and do something else, but uh

823
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:30,960
yeah, why not doing doing a
rematch? I mean, they had a

824
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,199
good crowd there. It seemed like
at the O two arena. You know,

825
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,360
he had, you know, some
of their top young guys on the

826
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,119
undercard, Uh, you know,
doing their thing. Ben Whitaker got to

827
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:42,360
win. But uh, this was
a good heavyweight fight. I mean,

828
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,159
it was. It was exciting.
It was it was it was. It

829
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,800
was a good cherry on top of
an excellent weekend. Man, we gave

830
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,719
you a lot of fight recaps.
Let's give you some news and some nostalgia

831
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,239
and get out of here. All
right, what's the latest the Fury Usk

832
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,360
undercard. We're starting to find out
some of the fights that are going to

833
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,000
be on this uh now coming from
May, give me a little more on

834
00:50:02,159 --> 00:50:09,079
what Turkey Ala Chik, the Saudi
Arabia and Entertainment Authority head who's the boxing

835
00:50:09,159 --> 00:50:12,840
matchmaker, give me a little more
here on what we found out. They

836
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,719
remember the fight was originally supposed to
take place in February, that the card

837
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,320
was pretty much already constructed, and
so largely what they've done is they've taken

838
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,360
that card and just trans they've just
moved it from whatever the original date was

839
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,719
in February to do it again in
May. There've been a few changes,

840
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,320
though it's a very good under card. Also, one thing, you know,

841
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:32,480
whether you like the fact that these
matchups are in Saudi Arabia, you

842
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:35,800
don't like the fact that they're in
Saudi Arabia. One thing is for damn

843
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,880
Shore, the when the Saudis and
Frank Warren and the folks that he works

844
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:43,519
with, whether it's Top Rank or
it's Matchroom Boxing or the various promoters that

845
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:49,039
they've had involved in these events,
they put on very very solid to great

846
00:50:49,159 --> 00:50:52,400
undercars, no doubt about it.
And this is another one that's in that

847
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:55,679
category. I mean, you can
do you complain the co feature is Ji

848
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,199
Opatai in the rematch against myras Braatest. That was a first fight sign up.

849
00:51:01,679 --> 00:51:06,679
Remember that was a fight where Opataia
had a broken jaw through it the

850
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:12,599
title, I mean, very very
outstanding fight. So they're fighting their rematch.

851
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:15,519
You've got Joe Cordina, who's a
SUPERB champion at one hundred and thirty

852
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:19,760
pounds taken on Anthony Kasachi, which
is a very solid, you know,

853
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,760
maybe not the biggest fight ever,
but that's a worthy kind of matchup.

854
00:51:22,599 --> 00:51:27,400
And then you got your boy at
G Cabiel, who looks so great in

855
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,480
his last fight on one of these
Saudi undercards. He's going to be on

856
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:34,079
against Frank Sanchez, who also has
been on these Saudi undercards. Are doing

857
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:38,639
what you sometimes the matchmaking is not
that complicated because you're mitching and matching the

858
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:43,360
guys that win on those cards and
try to advance. And you know,

859
00:51:43,519 --> 00:51:49,360
the added stakes to this particular fight
is it's supposed to be a WBC final

860
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,599
eliminator, so the title the winner
of this fight will become in line as

861
00:51:52,639 --> 00:51:55,599
a mandatory title challenge. Now let's
tied up. Obviously, the mandatory in

862
00:51:55,639 --> 00:51:58,760
the BC is not going to be
due for a little while, but it

863
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,679
puts the guy in position, and
like I said, your boy Agi Kabiel

864
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:07,920
scored a very impressive knockout in the
fourth round against arslen Beck Machmadov back on

865
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:12,320
the day of reckoning card and looked
fantastic on that card, and Frank Sanchez

866
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,199
maybe didn't look as fantastic on that
card. It took him a few rounds

867
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:16,159
to get a shit together, but
he was on that same undercard, so

868
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:19,679
they're coming off the same length of
time out of the ring, and he

869
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,719
knocked out Junior Fox quite spectacularly in
the seventh round, So that makes sense.

870
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,840
You take the two winners from the
show, you match them together.

871
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,679
It's got stakes covered, the aspect
of the eliminator, and you add that

872
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,320
to this show. And then on
top of that, you've got, you

873
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:36,559
know, not again the biggest fight
ever sergyey Kovoleev, the former light heavyweight

874
00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:39,519
champion. Now I've been Atker's weight
coming back. Obviously he's not in a

875
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:43,360
huge fight. He's fighting Robin so
far, I'm not shocked he's on this

876
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,119
card. I knew it from the
beginning. He's got the same manager as

877
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:49,440
Usik and I'm sure that's how he
got the spot. You got the lightweight

878
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,880
Mark Chamberlain from the UK, a
popular fighter taking on Joshua Wahab. You

879
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,320
got the big time heavyweight prospect,
Moses the Tama. He's on the show.

880
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,199
It's just a really good show.
And the reason why we're talking about

881
00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:06,679
it now is because his excellency Turkey
alschik Uh put up some stuff in a

882
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,039
graphic of the matchups on his social
media I think it was on Thursday or

883
00:53:10,119 --> 00:53:14,199
Friday, and then like the next
day, the PR team you know,

884
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,639
blasted out the particulars to the media
list. So this is another excellent undercard

885
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,559
for by the way A, even
if that had no undercard. The main

886
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:25,559
event is Tyson Ferry Alexander Russik for
the undiscrited heavyweight Championship. That in and

887
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:30,960
of itself, all the other shit
I just mentioned is like the gravy all

888
00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:34,039
right, So again that's the undercard
for May on that one. Let's go

889
00:53:34,199 --> 00:53:37,760
chronologically, Taya Fimo Lopez is going
to be back in the ring. I

890
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,760
gotta I gotta confess this is coming
in late June. You've done some reporting

891
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:45,119
and found this out. He apparently
he's gonna fight somebody named Steve Klagett or

892
00:53:45,159 --> 00:53:47,679
Claggett. I don't know who.
Just got what? What is this?

893
00:53:49,199 --> 00:53:52,800
Who is this guy that he's defending
against? Because I thought Taya Fimo was

894
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:59,400
headed to bigger things at the champion
defending his title and doing this thing,

895
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,079
that's what. It's not a huge
fight Steve Claggett. You know, look,

896
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:05,239
I'm not going to knock Steve Flaggtt. He's a hard working, tough

897
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,039
nosed guy. He doesn't have a
great record, he's thirty eight and seven

898
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:09,800
with two draws, but he's got
a long winning streak. He hasn't lost.

899
00:54:10,039 --> 00:54:13,920
He's won a bunch of fights since
twenty twenty one. He's been quite

900
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,719
active. Those of us, like
myself were degenerates and dorks, et cetera

901
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,320
for boxing who watch a lot of
the cards that come out of Canada on

902
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:25,079
the on ESPN Plus. He's on
those types of shows. He's been on

903
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:29,639
there on a number of occasions over
a recent past. He's with the folks

904
00:54:29,679 --> 00:54:31,559
that I have the Tiger who top
rank has done quite a bit of business

905
00:54:31,639 --> 00:54:36,719
with so that will be most likely
his opponent. It's not done yet,

906
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,360
but that's what they're looking at.
They're gonna do you see I know you

907
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,639
see everything, but this was such
a weekend of craziness. I happened to

908
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:46,000
see it. Did you see that? Raymond Moretaia's manager and fill in the

909
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:52,079
blanks he put on social media.
They came to us and we said yes

910
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:55,840
to Taya Femo Lopez late June,
and we're finding about this now on social

911
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,519
media that it's not us. That's
what the manager paraphrasing basically said that we

912
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:05,199
said yes to fighting Teya Fimo Lopez. Very interesting, but yeah, I

913
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,960
mean telling the truth ahead Well that's
Robert Garcia. I mean, Raymond Morettaia

914
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:13,599
was, without question one of the
names on the list. What my sources

915
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:15,280
tell me I was going to get
to this is that as they're making these

916
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:20,559
plans for Tiafimo to defend against now
it apparently will be Steve Claggett. It'll

917
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:22,800
take place June twenty ninth. I
am total take place. You might know

918
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,280
this because you're a Florida guy.
That's taking place at the James L.

919
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,400
Knights Center in Miami. It's an
available arena, have had a forty five

920
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:36,360
hundred seat place that's the University of
Miami's basketball facility on their Coral Gables campus.

921
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,880
Yes, okay, So when they
were trying to put this together,

922
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:46,159
there were four opponents that Top Rank
offered to team Tiafimo, which is Tiafimo,

923
00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:51,159
his father and David mcwater who was
the manager, and the names that

924
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,519
I was told that were offered for
this particular fight. Besides you know,

925
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:59,599
there was Claggett obviously. One of
them was Raymond Maritaia, who, by

926
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:01,480
the way, he fought on the
undercard, fighting on the Oscar of Valdez

927
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:06,000
Liam Wilson cart and even though he
won, that was one of the worst

928
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,840
performances for more Tie that I have
seen, So he can pipe down about

929
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,280
fighting for the title, right,
Okay? With that aside, So Moritai

930
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,679
was one of the names. Another
one is Elvis Rodriguez, who was formerly

931
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:20,400
with Top Rank, then was with
PBC and then I had become a gift

932
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,440
free agent. He was offered the
fight. And then you have Kenneth Simms,

933
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:27,199
who was an excellent fighter who won
an eliminator in one hundred and forty

934
00:56:27,199 --> 00:56:30,199
pounds in the I believe was a
WBA eliminator who parted ways in the last

935
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,239
couple of weeks with PBC, so
he's been out there as a free agent

936
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,760
also, I believe. So the
names were Claggett, sims were Rodriguez and

937
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:43,639
Maritaya, and Team Tiafimo decided they
would prefer the Steve Laggett fight. Now,

938
00:56:43,679 --> 00:56:47,159
what's interesting about that card is I
had reported previously that come June,

939
00:56:47,599 --> 00:56:52,920
we were going to see a rematch
between Raphael Espinoza and Robas Ramirez for the

940
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,880
SUPERB featherweight title fight that big upset
and that dramatic game, and a top

941
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,360
rank said they weren't even like off
the record, they said, we're gonna

942
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,079
I wrote about this, you know, a month or so ago. We're

943
00:57:02,119 --> 00:57:06,639
gonna have them rematch with each other
this summer, and it was probably gonna

944
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:09,840
be again in South Florida. So
the Espinosa people really wanted to have a

945
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:15,840
home defense or some other defense before
they did the rematch. So after that

946
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,440
kind of fight, top rank was
like, okay, fine, so they're

947
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,519
gonna give Espinosa a rematch, another
rematch. You're gonna give me another defense

948
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,119
sometime this summer. Robasi will fight
on the tia Fimo undercart In the co

949
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,280
feature, and if I mean,
if Robasi wins his undercard fight and at

950
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:36,199
another date in the summer, Raphaelspinoza
wins his fight defense, they will fight

951
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,559
each other this fall in the rematch. So the rematch is still on the

952
00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:40,360
Dockett, It's just not going to
be immediate. They'll each have one interim

953
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,440
fight in between, and we'll see
the rematch in the fall. I'm okay

954
00:57:44,519 --> 00:57:46,880
with that. Build that up a
little bit now. The following week is

955
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:52,599
the Shakur Stevenson main event for Top
Rank, and you have the opponent here

956
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:57,360
for July sixth, for him go
ahead with the Lakers. A few weeks

957
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,679
ago, I had reported that he
was going to in fact fight six at

958
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,119
the Prudential Center in Newark, which
is his hometown, defending the lightweight belt

959
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:09,079
for the first time that he had
won in that very rancid, terrible fight

960
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:19,280
that we saw against what was what
was that fight against against? That was

961
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,360
on the weekend of the the big
race F one race in Las Vegas,

962
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,480
and uh, it was anything but
exciting, that is for sure. So

963
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:29,719
he is going to come back and
try to shake it off the stink of

964
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:30,960
that fight, you know, he
obviously had some issues going into that match

965
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,599
with some injuries and some other problems. Uh, that fight took place back

966
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,280
in November, so now he's coming
back July sixth, and so I am

967
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:43,199
told by multiple sources his opponent will
be Artam Cardatunian, who is twelve and

968
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,400
one with seven knockouts, a German
fighter, a born in Armenia but lives

969
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:51,079
in Germany. Only seven knockouts.
I'm a little surprised by this level of

970
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:54,079
opponent, but if you take a
look at his recent record, his last

971
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:58,400
fight, you know, sometimes you
can win for losing. That's sort of

972
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,719
what Artem Hardaitunian has done. Because
in July of twenty twenty three, he

973
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:07,320
fought against Frank Martin, who was
an undefeated up and comer at that time

974
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:12,679
who turned down the opportunity to fight
Sir Course Stevenson. And he lost a

975
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,719
pretty competitive fight against Frank Martin in
that fight. So that is going to

976
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:22,400
be his reward for maybe exposing Frank
Martin a little bit in that fight by

977
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,800
getting a title opportunity probably against ra
Course Stevenson. But and again that's a

978
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,239
little far off. It's in July, right after July fourth, that that'll

979
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,039
be July sixth, that that'll be
having one more news out of him.

980
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:36,760
You talked at linked about Bam Rodriguez
and Juan Francisco Estrada as we went into

981
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,719
the weekend in the preview pod.
We're on the recap pod here. There's

982
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,639
one other note that he has gone
ahead and vacated his flyweight title, So

983
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,800
tell me more about why he did
this as it sets up for that fight

984
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,320
in late June as well. Now, a lot of fighters, when they

985
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,800
have a fight for a title in
another weight class, they wait till that

986
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,880
fight occurs before they obviously vacate any
other belts because that's their leverage. If

987
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,239
they lose, they can always return
to their weight division and defend those belts,

988
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,000
kind of like what rave Argus did
recently. But in the case of

989
01:00:01,039 --> 01:00:05,159
Van Rodriguez's obviously already been a champion
in the one hundred and fifteen pound way

990
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:07,280
class. He won the title or
one of the belts at one hundred twelve

991
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:12,360
pounds in the flyway division. He
scored a very important and outstanding victory against

992
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Sonny Edwards back at the end of
last year or no, I guess it

993
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,800
was early this year. I forget
the date of it whatever, but anyway,

994
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,159
the bottom line was he stops Sonny
Edwards and he unified two of the

995
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:23,559
titles. So now he signed for
the Wan Franciscuastrata fight to go back up

996
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:27,639
to one fifteen challenge for his old
title as well as the lineal title,

997
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,960
and so before that happens, he
then in the last few days had his

998
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,840
people send letter thanking the WBO,
thanking the IBF for the opportunities, but

999
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,400
he vacated the belts and so he's
on to the June twenty ninth big time

1000
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,760
fight against Wan Frince Squastrata. And
as an aside to that, one of

1001
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,199
the fights that I am told that
I recorded about on my substack, people

1002
01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:47,519
should read my notebook at Dan ray
Tail dot substack dot com. Hels to

1003
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:52,800
pause that their working matrim is to
finalize a fight for that undercart between Sonny

1004
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:58,599
Edwards and Adrian Kuriel, who was
the former title holder in the one hundred

1005
01:00:58,639 --> 01:01:01,760
in the junior flyweight division. Memory
yet that big knockout against Nnsinga then lost

1006
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,400
in the rematch, So when I
heard about that fight, my first thought

1007
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:07,679
was, oh wow, so so
Kuriel is going to go up and fight

1008
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,079
Sonny Edwards. When I talked to
some folks involved, I was no,

1009
01:01:12,119 --> 01:01:14,320
no, no, no, no, young man. But Sonny Edwards is

1010
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,599
looking to go down to one hundred
eight pounds to drop down to fight Kiio,

1011
01:01:16,719 --> 01:01:20,599
So that would if they're able to
get the fight done, that is

1012
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:22,639
what's going to probably be the co
feature on the night that Bam Rodrigez and

1013
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:28,800
one Francis Squash try to get their
business together. There by the way,

1014
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,199
that's a good fight. Also interesting
take that one. Both guys need to

1015
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,519
win because Sonny got beaten up by
Bam in that title shot. Okay,

1016
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,119
one piece of nostalgia before we depart
April Fools is Monday. As we release

1017
01:01:43,159 --> 01:01:49,519
this podcast April first, eighteen years
ago. Monday is a WBO heavyweight title

1018
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:54,000
fight on Showtime, a big time
slugfest that I really don't know anything about.

1019
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:55,880
I got to go back and search
this one, but you're gonna tell

1020
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,159
me about it. Tell me that
you don't know this fight. TJ Sergei

1021
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:07,199
Elayak and Layman Brewster. Lyyakovich wins
the fight and Rayfhael is saying highly underrated,

1022
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:13,079
real quick so I've talked about like
people say, what's the best heavyweight

1023
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:15,960
fight you've been to or that you've
watched. So when I think about the

1024
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,840
heavyweight fights I've covered or written about, you know, I was fortunate to

1025
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:27,960
be at Lewis against clitchkow Uh the
other Klitschko Vladimir against Anthony Joshua, Deontay

1026
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,039
Wilder against Tyson Ferior, the third
fight, those types of fights. And

1027
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:36,440
when you think about great heavyweight slugfests
and big time fights, obviously you think

1028
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,679
about Ali Fraser. You think about
Larry Holmes and Kenny Norton. You think

1029
01:02:38,679 --> 01:02:44,719
about the historic trilogy between Riddick Bow
and Evander Holyfield, you think about Mike

1030
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,039
Tyson and Buster Douglas. I mean, those are the fights that jump to

1031
01:02:47,119 --> 01:02:52,119
your mind. The action, high
stakes. This was not at that level

1032
01:02:52,159 --> 01:02:57,000
in terms of the notoriety, but
punch for punch in terms of entertainment value,

1033
01:02:57,119 --> 01:03:00,679
excitement, drama, Sergey lyak Covid
and Layman Brewster is probably the most

1034
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:05,519
underrated heavyweight title fight maybe ever.
I mean, that's how good this thing

1035
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:08,199
was. This was a showtime main
event. It took place in Cleveland.

1036
01:03:08,239 --> 01:03:12,239
You say, why was it in
Cleveland when Leyman Brewster is from California,

1037
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,159
Los Angeles, Harry and Lyakovich is
from I think Belarus. The reason it

1038
01:03:15,239 --> 01:03:19,760
was in Cleveland was because that's Don
King's hometown. Yeah again, and made

1039
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,000
a deal to do the fight in
Cleveland. So that's he We're got to

1040
01:03:22,039 --> 01:03:24,440
do it in Cleveland going. So
the fight was in Cleveland, headlined the

1041
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:29,280
showtime card and at the end of
the day, these two guys got in

1042
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,559
the ring, they beat the living
shit out of each other. It really

1043
01:03:30,719 --> 01:03:36,119
ended in Bruser's career in many respects
because he got the the the a lot

1044
01:03:36,159 --> 01:03:38,639
of damage that they got to detach
retina in his left eye from a first

1045
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:44,639
round punch that ultimately ended his career. But you know, it still hampers

1046
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:47,639
him, you know, even today. But that was a very very memorable

1047
01:03:47,679 --> 01:03:51,760
battle, as you said, like
but which he did more of the damage.

1048
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,400
He ended up winning a unanimous decision. It was quite close. I

1049
01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:55,760
just looked up the scores. It
was one seventeen, one to ten on

1050
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:59,280
one card. That's kind of why
it obviously, but one fifteen, one

1051
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,039
twelve, fifth Team one thirteen,
superb superb fight. Brewster, even though

1052
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:05,760
he lost, he did get a
knockdown against Laikovich in round seven, So

1053
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,239
there was some drama and it was
just an outstanding fight. Now, after

1054
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,480
this fight was over, Brewster was
off for like, I don't know,

1055
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:15,159
maybe a year year and a half. He came back and he took the

1056
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:19,119
beatdown in the rematch against Vladimir Klitchko
in Germany. But this was even though

1057
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:23,000
he lost his fight, this was
like his last high peak moment. And

1058
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:26,760
for Layakhovich, you know, he
went on and had some other notable fights,

1059
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,639
but this was by far, in
a way, his most memorable fight

1060
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:32,440
of his career, and it was
just it was a very spectacular fight.

1061
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,119
And I'm actually kind of surprised that
you've never seen this fight, DJ,

1062
01:04:36,199 --> 01:04:40,360
because on it you've put me onto
it. I got to go look for

1063
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,400
it. Eighteen years ago, Monday, April first, two thousand and six.

1064
01:04:44,079 --> 01:04:45,599
The thing about is neither guy was
ever really the same. That's the

1065
01:04:45,719 --> 01:04:48,920
damage they did, because, like
I mentioned, Brewster came back and got

1066
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:53,639
beat up by Klitchkow and his career
was basically over. And in his next

1067
01:04:53,719 --> 01:04:58,639
fight, you had Sergey Lakovich defending
the title and getting this is another it

1068
01:04:58,679 --> 01:05:00,599
wasn't it was a terrible fight,
but the ending was as dramatic as a

1069
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:04,400
guess. He defended the title like
five six months later against Shannon Briggs and

1070
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:10,000
in the twelfth round at you talk
about Meldrick Taylor Chavez with two seconds left,

1071
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:14,360
how about Shannon Briggs lyak Coovich with
one second left? And Shannon Briggs

1072
01:05:14,679 --> 01:05:17,800
knocked Lyakovich out of the ring onto
the floor and won the fight and the

1073
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:23,840
title by a knockout in the twelfth
round. Incredible And again, wait,

1074
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,599
you gave me a second homework assignment. I gotta find that ending as well

1075
01:05:27,719 --> 01:05:31,360
for Briggs and Layakovich. I got
two Layakovich homework assignments for that night.

1076
01:05:31,519 --> 01:05:34,679
Brewster and Briggs were among the best
heavyweights out there. And it goes to

1077
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:39,239
show you that again, anything can
happen one punch, in this case many

1078
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,199
hundreds of punches, and neither of
these fighters were ever the same. They

1079
01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:47,239
never won another big fight the rest
of their careers. Lyakovich and Brewster eighteen

1080
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,519
years ago. Man, what a
what a pod tremendous recap of all those

1081
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:59,320
fight cards from Vegas to Inglewood,
to Arizona and even to England. Why

1082
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,400
don't we relow in a new month, shall we no pooland no fool And

1083
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,320
it's April on Monday, and uh, we get ready for another week.

1084
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,079
And I look forward to being with
you later this week for the big Fight

1085
01:06:11,159 --> 01:06:14,719
weekend preview. I'm sorry about to
do Blue Devils for you from my bracket

1086
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,639
pools where I had Duke and I
was in great shape had they just won

1087
01:06:16,719 --> 01:06:21,000
the game such by the way,
Yeah, we had so much shit to

1088
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:26,119
go over this week with the fights
in the news that we actually had a

1089
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:28,719
show in the interview. I'll just
tell the folks we have coming up.

1090
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,280
We're not sure which day were going
to run it, but I had a

1091
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:38,360
very good interview with Devin Haney in
training Camps. Ryan Garcia. Yeah,

1092
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,119
I think we've heard of him,
so Devin Haney in a subsequent pod coming

1093
01:06:42,199 --> 01:06:44,519
up, not on this pod,
but in a subsequent pod coming up.

1094
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:45,360
Right. But had this been one
of those weekends where there was like only

1095
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,320
one or two fights and there was
not like going on, you know,

1096
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,920
maybe we'd run we would have run
the interview. But there was so much

1097
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:54,199
stuff that we had to deal with
in terms of all that. And I

1098
01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:56,480
can still talk about these fights for
another hour if you want, But We're

1099
01:06:56,519 --> 01:06:59,119
not going to do that tonight.
I think we're good. So Devin Haney

1100
01:06:59,159 --> 01:07:01,159
coming up on a subsequent and show
for now, my friend, thank you.

1101
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,079
Do well this week. We'll be
back in touch. I'm headed to

1102
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:09,920
Arizona late in the week for the
college basketball Final four to see if Yukon

1103
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:14,320
has the repeat or not. Dan, you can visit the location of where

1104
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,679
Shannon Briggs knocked uh knocking Michaelvich out
of the ring. It was at Chase

1105
01:07:17,679 --> 01:07:21,239
Stiels and Phoenix. There you go, all right, among other things.

1106
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,880
Could be busy with the college basketball
as well. Have a good week,

1107
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,079
my friend. Thank you, As
always to man there it goes. Dan

1108
01:07:28,199 --> 01:07:32,320
Rayfield find his substack. Dan Rayfield's
substack at Fight Freaks Unite on Substack.

1109
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,639
You've been listening here to the Fight
Freaks You Unit recap as part of the

1110
01:07:35,679 --> 01:07:40,800
Big Fight Weekend podcast feed for Dan
Rayfield on TJ Reeves. Great stuff on

1111
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,079
the recap. Have a great week, everybody,