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And I see like the different stages and points in my life is I like
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It's all. It's all been a good use of time, I feel.
And we're moving forward into the future and certainly some of the things I've pointed
out in the past are making a little more sense to more people at present.
The book again revolve Man Scientific Rise to Godhood. That book, what
it's about is about transhumanism. I split the book into half. There's like,
the front half of the book is essentially, Okay, here's a list
of all these technological projects. Here's what transhumanism is. Right, you take
all these converging technologies. We've got artificial intelligence coming up in the future soon,
right, it's going to actually be workable and to change the world dramatically
soon, that's coming. And plus we have these other things like nanotech,
life extension research, cognitive enhancement technology, the brain implants and things like that,
robotics, genetic engineering, all this stuff. The transhumanist vision is to
take all of that and march into the future, make a bold, brave
new world out of it. So the first half of the book is,
Okay, here's all the things that happened happening in that realm. Here's where
the stakeholders are staking their claim thus far and projecting out in the future.
Here's what they say is going to happen. Here's what they are already doing
Bertha a few years back now, twenty eleven. So that's the first half
of the book. The second half of the book is a bit more esoteric.
It's about the sort of occult religious aspect of the entire transhumanist idea,
the alchemical, the alchemical project that is involved in realizing the transhumanist vision,
the great work, as it's called in a cult circles specifically that applied to
technology. But I think anyway, that's that's the second half of the book
is the esoteric occult religious thing. Now, it's a It's an interesting area
to go into the occult, into the esoteric, into the religious, because
it gets it gets difficult real quick, actually, and I've seen a lot
of people over the years in alternative the communities go into those areas and as
far as I'm going to serned, just crash and burn and just like fall
and trip over to themselves and just fall victim to utter stupidity. And it
seems very difficult not to do that. I'm sure. I'm not saying I've
not made any mistakes myself. I mean, you're gonna kind of it gets
to be difficult. However, I am. I am proud, I gotta
say, and I think I've I've been measured as much as I've been measured
enough in that I do believe my take is better than most. Let's say,
so this is me boasting a bit here we go. I feel good
about myself tonight, and I do know that the esoteric occult side of things
is appealing to a lot of people who you know, might be there able
to pull the levers of making transhumanist moves, you know what I mean,
like big power players, And definitely there have been some already that have.
You just can tell when somebody is in the know, so to speak,
and actually understands occult concepts and like observes them one way or another themselves.
And certainly with the more intelligent sides of the transhumanist crowd, that is apparent.
And not just the more intelligent, but the more influential I think the
more influential, more powerful people get, the more they're kind of inclined to
have this religiosity over themselves and their own success prosperity doctrine or whatever they apply
that. But there's a definite, real occult angle to it, and you
can go off in a lot of different directions with this. You can take
any certain individual and go like, okay, we can look at them here
here here, and it's very interesting. But the last week headlines have been
made by one of these sorts of characters. A billionaire no less, Mark
Andresen, who was famous for starting up Netscape back in the early days of
web browsers. Old folks might remember using Netscape to browse the Internet. He
was behind that, and then later he became a venture capital guy in Silicon
Valley investing and lots of successful ventures out there up there in that beloved portion
of the world, Silicon Valley. I want to go off on a weird
tangent with like Ohio State there for a moment, but I'm not going to
do that anyway. Mark Andresen recently published his piece called The Techno Optimist Manifesto,
not too long of a sort of essay sort of thing, and it's
gotten a lot of critique in the media the past week, and deservedly so.
A lot of people are giving him a hard time over it, which
they had ought to do. However, there are a couple of things.
I haven't been able to read the whole thing through. I've skimmed the entire
thing. I haven't sat down to read the whole thing. I need to.
I will, and I think when I do, I'll come up with
more points even But I'm just gonna try to hit a couple of interesting things
tonight that I noticed about this piece. But yes, first of all,
Andres and himself, Silicon Valley billionaire, somebody who's very much ascribing to the
transhumanist vision, which is what this manifesto is all about, and makes itself
clear there someone who is. He's a one percenter, right, and it's
fascinating, I think off the bat, I'm just gonna say this. We
get this general concept that the one percent is like this opposition force to those
of us down here to the masses, right, So it's the masses versus
the one percent. The one percent are in charge of they're the ones that
have all the resources. And this is all true. I'm not disputing this,
but I think the thing where sometimes we might slip up is to think
that, like in the minds of these one percenters, that they have something
else going on, that like they are the and the conspiratorial view of things
would be like these are the guys in charge, pulling the levers again and
making the decisions and getting one over on us. When that is true to
extent. But there's also another aspect of this where I would say that the
very things in alternative conspiracy culture that we ascribe to and that a lot of
us should be familiar with, that these one percent guys actually believe with the
same sort of religious fervor that you know, a hardcore conspiracy theorist does actually
And I couldn't help but notice that in this manifesto. Is that a lot
of conspiracy tropes or whatever popped up when I was looking at it. And
I guarantee you Andrewson believes these things very much, so as much as any
you know, the stereotypical guy who lives in his parents' basement and is very
much into alternative things, right, the guy who has nothing, So the
guy who has everything and the guy who has nothing. I think intellectually there's
not as much of a divide as one would want to think there is.
In fact, it's probably a lot more similar than people think. And that
brings up a lot of interesting points. But we won't we don't need to
even speak to them now that Let's just go through this a bit and I'm
going to try to, like see if I can make some of the interesting
points right right off the bat. I will I'll take this one quote that
fits back into the revolve Man's scientific rise to godhood story, and that is
the belief in the occult and things like that and how it applies to technology.
So this is a quote taken from this piece. Artificial intelligence is our
alchemy, our philosopher's stone. We are literally making sand think. And that's
that's a quote that if I had had it, had it existed, that
this wrote Revolve, I absolutely would put it in the book. It's another
like smoking gun evidence of like, look, these guys, they're into these
ideas all right, bare minimum, but whether you believe them or not,
Like these guys certainly do. They believe. They believe in their own powers
right, and in the power of technology in the occult sense. They believe
in alchemy because it's an alchemy. The thing with belief in alchemy, you
just have to understand what it actually is. It's uh, it's it's a
lot of like metaphor really and and people want to make it something more than
it isn't And by making it like people want to take it literally all the
time because we've kind of been trained to take everything literally and if it's not
literal, then it's useless. You absolutely cannot have that frame of reference when
you're dealing with alchemy or anything occult for that matter. You're in a nebulous
gray area where things are often symbolic in nature. However, the fact that
they are symbolic doesn't mean that they don't exist, they're not real. Just
because they are intangible does not mean that they cannot affect the tangible world,
right, It's this weird interplay between tangible and tangible material, immaterial things you
can touch, things that you can't, spiritual material above below all that stuff.
I know for a lot of people that's difficult. So thus the problem
with it. I would, I think an interesting observation here would be anybody
who has the time to sit and think, who has some leisure time and
an inclination towards intellectual pursuits, is going to be able to crack these codes,
which aren't that complex. Really takes time and will and effort to do
it, things that you know a billionaire might have. You know, I
know that I'm not saying that you know, you make a billion dollars by
being lazy not doing anything, But I'm also saying, once you have that
kind of money, you should be able to find some free time sometime for
leisure and intellectual pursuits might be something you're interested in being a guy, like
mark and treason. So okay, onward, he's alchemy interesting alchemy. Quote
there, right, we're making sand thing I do. Actually I like that.
But anyway, so he's making Okay, he's at the beginning. He's
got these different headlines or these different what do you call them? I forget
the headings, the different headings to this essay. One of the headings is
lies, he says, have we've been lied to? That the future is
all terrible and technology is awful and it creates waste and it's going to kill
us. Like he says, that's all lie. Next heading is truth.
Our civilization was built on technology. Our civilization is built on technology. He
goes on blah blah blah. You get the idea. Next heading technology,
he breaks out the techno optimists term, which he's using here. This is
the techno Optimist manifesto after all. So he kind of gets into he starts
getting into the libertarian sort of philosophy here. He gets more into it later.
Something interesting he's hinting at right here, he gets at in more hero
ilis read this. He says there are only three sources of growth, population
growth, natural resource utilization, and technology. Develop societies are depopulating all over
the world across cultures. The total human population may already be shrinking. Okay.
Natural resource utilization has sharp limits, both real and political, and so
the only perpetual source of growth is technology. Okay. So he's doing this
weird thing. He's noting that population numbers are now declining, especially in developing
societies. That he's saying, true, that is happening. Now he's saying
that is a bad thing. He's he's mentioning that. He's also mentioning that
the resources are finite. Right, there's a natural resource utiliz utilization has limits.
But he's also getting at if you can use technology. What he's saying
is, if you use technology properly, then you can multiply growth. And
that's an alchemical principle. Is the art of multiplication is you can take a
very tiny or even non existent thing and amplify it, multiply it into something
more. You get more from the something from nothing, more from less.
Things like that, and so he says, we believe, we believe technology
is a lever on the world, the way to make more with less.
Okay, so make us into economics markets. So this heading is markets.
He gets basically again the libertarian principles. He gets into here, we believe
markets lift people out of poverty. In fact, markets are by far the
most effective way to lift vast numbers of people out of poverty, always have
been. We believe markets are an inherently individualistic way to achieve super collective outcomes.
Okay, enough markets whatever says planned economy are doomed to failure, Communism
trouble that sort of thing, which again interesting, I mean, the whole
libertarian thing, and being scared of the plant. So he's saying he's doesn't
like the idea of the plant society, which again fits into the you know,
that sort of alternative way of viewing things. So he's he too,
is if you're worried about a plant society, So is Mark Andriesen. I'm
just saying, not really making a judgment there, I'm trying not to.
Okay, here's another heading, the techno capital machine. Oh, dear lord,
we believe the techno capital machine of markets and innovation never ends. Ben
said, spirals continuously upward. Okay, God, largest number of jobs I
can talk about all that. Oh jees Okay, now here's something very fascinating.
We believe in, we being the techno optimist, right, we believe
in accelerationism, the conscious and deliberate propulsion of technological development to ensure the fulfillment
of the law of accelerating returns capital letters there, to ensure the techno capital
upward spiral continues forever. It's interesting. I mean, accelerationism is a generalized
sort of philosophical, philosophical idea. It's been used by some interesting groups across
the political spectrum. Uh, some of which are downright, Uh that,
I mean, they're they're far right, like neo Nazi groups and things like
that apply it accelerationism to their idea of like like the race wars and and
saying that deliberately trying to make those things happen, and accelerating conflict, racial
conflict and division, things like that, and tearing down the entire system.
That is, we'll bring about this inevitable better world that we need to go
to. So that's one again, He's not I'm not saying that in reason
is a neo Nazi or anything like that, but just accelerationism is a fringe
concept to be sure, and you can apply things like that to all sorts
of fringe ideas. But again, just an interesting sort of thing there.
Intelligence heading. Okay, okay, oh, here's the quote. We believe
artificial intelligence is our alchemy, our philosopher's stone. We are literally making sand
think. We believe artificial intelligence is best thought of a universal problem solver,
and we have a lot of problems to solve. We believe it can save
lives. We believe any deceleration of AI will cost lives, therefore stopping it
as a former murder. We believe in augmented intelligence just as much as we
believe in artificial intelligence. Intelligent machines, augment intelligent humans driving a geometric expansion
of what humans can do. Very transhumanist concept there. Okay, enough of
that energy. Energy is life, we take it for granted, but without
it we have darkness, starvation and pain. Energy. Is there anything interesting
here? Oh? Okay, okay, okay, I'm trying to see there's
something I want to pick out of here. I want to make sure I
don't pass it up. I don't think I have yet. Abundance is a
heading, let's see here, blah okay, So yeah, like every good
techno optimist that's come before him, because he's not the first. There's been
other of these guys. It's like, Yeah, we're gonna make a world
of abundance for everybody. It's it's coming just around the corner. It hasn't
happened yet, but it's I mean they say it has, but I mean
down here, from on the ground where we're at, you could definitely say,
yeah, I see what you're saying, Like there's conveniences, but also
getting by is more difficult than it ever has been. And how's technology stopping
that? It isn't And hey, you're doing pretty good. You seem to
have an excess of abundance, So why don't you? Why don't I Why
why do you have it? And I don't? And and the the the
argument there is that you know, the system is set up so that all
of the abundance is it goes into the coffers of a tiny minority of people.
I mean, it is set up that way at present. If you
don't believe that, you're out of your damn mind. I don't. I
don't know how anybody doesn't see that at this point, because pretty much everybody
does. Kind of takes zero intelligence to see the obvious, and it's just
annoying when somebody like inrees and says, yeah, it's it's gonna it's gonna
happen, and some of us are just saying like, well, why isn't
it happening right now? Like well, why why do you have all of
this? I mean, it's just obvious. The way that the economy is
set up, the way that markets have been structured to just line the pockets
of the investors of these companies that are you know, just built to pull
profit in at any and all costs so that they just make more and more
money for themselves and that's it, that's all. And they pay their chief
executive officers a lot of money. They basically are paying them off so that
they do a good job in filtering all the money to them. And then
they buy the politicians off to make all the laws that work so that they
can make more money and not get in any not get any trouble over what
they're doing. Nothing, what they do, it's all made legal because you
get your lobbyists to push off the legislation that's going to make you the most
profits, right, so you just buy off a bunch of like idiot scumbag
politicians that are like some the biggest loser you ever knew, the biggest like
idiot can be a politician just as long as they know how to say yes.
If they know how to be a good yes man and make sure that
what they're told to do is done, they will get paid. And maybe
if they're really good, they'll get really good stock tips. Right, they'll
get good stock tips, and maybe they'll get so good, maybe they'll get
to feel like an insider, and maybe they'll be almost an insider themselves because
they're given so many perks, like oh, yeah, you're doing such a
good job. We'll tell you what to buy, when to buy it.
You'll make a fortune yourself, not as much as us, but you'll be
you'll be doing way better than everybody else. This is the way the world
works. It's it's not even complicated. It's not complex. It's not even
like conspiratorial or anything. It's it's just it's just sad and pathetic the world
we live in. And I'm I'll digress, digress from that and get back
to the techno Optimist manifesto, because I guess tomorrow is going to be a
new day. So let's just keep reading about how great technology is, how
great technology was is and always will be. Let's see, we believe that
out of all these people come scientists, technologists, artists and visionaries beyond their
wildest dreams. It's real nice to be to talk like this and say artists
and visionaries. I mean, being an artist and a visionary can be nice.
Doesn't necessarily necessarily pay the bills. And if it doesn't, I mean,
what good is it in our world? It Quite frankly, it doesn't
matter, like I being in There's different ways to be an artist. You
can be like a true anybody can be a true artist. You you don't
have to make any money to be an artist. You just have to have
like a way of viewing the life and living your life and like creating things
where you're consciously doing things and doing things that aren't that are somehow out of
the ordinary, but you have a philosophy behind it. There's a reason you
do it. You're trying to be different. You're trying to make a point,
either to yourself or to a wider audience. It may not matter,
but you're doing things to be different. That's being an artist. There's also
another form of artists, like maybe this should be called a commercial artist.
If you're clever and you can figure out how to get grants, and if
you figure out how, if you have good social skills, you know who
to talk to so that you can work either alongside them or for them,
or again get the grant money from them, or get their attention somehow.
You get in the in crowd and you make you turn your art, which
may be legitimate art still I'm not saying it's not, but you you market
it into a viable product, so you put a lot of effort into marketing.
Therefore you make it a living. Okay, So that's that's the form
of art that can make you a living then, And I don't know just
that anytime somebody talks about this kind of stuff and just talking about like a
wonderful future, we're all gonna hold hands, everybody's there's gonna be abundance for
everybody. It's they're just it's just not that way. And I don't know
at what point this changes. Then. I'm not saying it's even wrong that
an artist is like you know, like the starving artists, Like, is
it wrong that that is a thing, is a real thing, Like is
it good that that's the way things it? Does it make it more pure
when you're not getting paid? Does it make it? Is it abominable?
Should? Uh? You know? It just raises a lot of questions.
He got me off on a tangent on that. Uh another heading, not
utopia, but close enough. He's saying they don't believe in utopia. Let's
see here, let's he say we are adherent to what Thomas Salle calls a
constrained vision. Uh contra, the unconstrained vision of utopia. Communism and expertise
means taking people as they are, testing ideas empirically and liberating people to make
their own choices. Okay again, libertarian the individual things like that. We
get it. Heading becoming technological Superman. That old idea again, it's been
a popular term among transhumanists for decades. Was it rc W? It was
Edinger? It was his last name, And was it RCW? His last
name was Edger? He did that Man into Superman was an interesting piece from
I think the seventies. Let's see, I'm trying to see if there's anything
to pick out from here. I'm not seeing anything I'm gonna have to read
this whole thing and come back. I think again on this one, because
there's a lot going on. Technological values is a heading. We believe in
truth. We believe rich is better than poor, cheap is better than expensive,
and abundant is better than that. Abundance term is just I'm sorry,
it's it's incredibly annoying every time I see that damn word. You know.
We believe in making everyone rich, everything cheap, and everything abundant. Okay,
there's a lot of cheap junk that we've done that much. Everyone rich,
I don't know about. We believe extrinsic motivations wealth, fame, revenge
are fine as far as they go. But we believe intrinsic motivations intrinsic the
satisfaction of building something new, the camaraderie being on a team, achievement of
becoming a better version of oneself, more fulfilling, and more lasting. Yes,
that's good. We believe in the Silicon Valley code of pay it forward,
trust via aligned incentives, generosity of spirit to help one another and learn
and grow. We believe technology makes greatness more possible and likely. Oh boy,
here we go, petting the meaning of life. Oh lord, we're
not necessarily left wing, although some of us are. We are not necessarily
right wing, although some of us are. Sounds like the accelerationists. We
are materially focused for a reason, to open the aperture on how we may
choose to live amid a material abundance. Material abundance from markets and technology opens
the space for religion, for politics, and for choices of how to live.
Oh, here's the enemy. Okay, I think there's something interesting here.
The enemy. We have enemies. Our enemies are not bad people,
but rather bad ideas. Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, here's something interesting.
I'm gonna read this paragraph. Our present society has been subjected to a
mass demoralization campaign for six decades against technology and against life, under varying names
like existential risk, sustainability ESG, sustainable development goals, social responsibility, stakeholders,
capitalism, precautionary principle, trust and safety, tech ethics, risk,
risk management, degrowth, the limits of growth. Okay, that that paragraph
stands out to me because he's pulling a lot of buzzwords from the Agenda twenty
one document the un that made quite the stir in again. Alternative conspiratorial circles
a big deal for a long time, and continuing to do so. This
whole push in the in the fringes in alternative circles, the tendency and again,
and this is always I'm generalizing, so please don't crucify me, But
the tendency in alternative circles, from my observation point being here for so long
over the years, is that one tends to go towards the concept that the
UN goals for sustainable development as outlined in Agenda twenty one, are part of
a grander conspiracy by the globalists to take control of the world under the guise
of environmentalism, so that all things you hear about climate change, global warming,
all of that can be dismissed aside as, not even true, because
it fits into this sustainable Development Agenda twenty one conspiratorial worldview that we've created.
So any sort of like viewing of degradation of the environment, again, climate
change tends to be thrown out the window as a non factor or beyond that,
even like a distraction to push us further into our enslavement. And you
know, new world order globalist agenda, right, that's the idea I would
say from the looks of things, Andresen is very much on board with that
alternative concept. It looks like he's using a bunch of buzz terms right here
in this one paragraph sustainable development goals. The Limits of Growth was the title
of a book published by a group. It was I don't know if it
was the IPCC, but it was somebody affiliated with that scene. If it
wasn't the IPCC, the International Panel on Climate Change itself, it was a
bunch of people that were involved in that that got together and published the Limits
of Growth book. I think it was the IPCC, there was. The
Limits of Growth was the big first publication. And then even more oh,
it might have been the Club of Rome. I think it was the Club
of Rome was involved in this too, which is just tangential to the whole
same group. Anyway. There's the other one that made waves, which I
have a copy of. Gosh, the title will lose me now, it's
killing me. Uh oh, The First Global Revolution. That was the big
book that is quoted all the time and again in alternative circles where they're saying
like, look, the world as we know it cannot stand. We have
to do this. Sustainable development thing or the Earth is going to be destroyed.
I wish I had the quotes from it, because I've read the book
myself and I still have it, I have a copy of it. But
it very much fits into that. And I would say that, I mean,
to me, it's clear that Andresen is very much on board with all
of that. Which, again, if you're the average conspiracy theorist kind of
you know, it's contrary to the narrative because is Andresen as a one percenter
as a big Silicon valley guy, a venture capitalist, silicon valley guy.
Is he not the enemy? Is he not the problem? Is he not
one of the conspirators? Is his adherence to this part of alternative thinking?
Is it just a ruse? Like what's going on for me? My at
where I'm at now, my interpretation of this is that Andreason is very much
this whole essay he's putting out, He's very much it's a heartfelt thing.
He's not bssaying. He's putting what he actually believes out there with this piece.
He's not like telling you a lie. He's not trying to like pull
a fast on you know, he's not trying to like you know, obfuscate
or do anything fancy like that. This is the way he actually thinks.
I do reckon, okay, and I think that what might what we might
want to stop and think and find fascinating because I do, is that somebody
like him, like a through and through one percent guy, for sure,
is very much he very much ascribes to alternative, contrarian, conspiratorial views of
the world that are not far off from those of again, somebody who has
nothing and also is into the same ideas. He's very much into fringe concepts.
I've said this about the transhumanist movement fairly quite a bit too, is
that it's very good to criticize them. But what you have to remember is
that the transhumanists, if nothing else, they are absolutely a fringe group,
and as such they are subject to a lot of the same things that conspiracy
alternative communities are as well. The same achilles heels are there, the same
faults are there, the same the same virtues are there too. I mean,
there is virtue in having alternative ways of thought and being on the fringes.
There's a the place of virtue that brings you into that frame of reference
to begin with. It's it's somebody who legitimately wants to do good for the
world. I think why most people go that way. I think that's true
of the transhumanists. I think that's true of conspiracy theorists. I think we
need to all remember that. I think it's true of Andreas, and I
think he really actually wants to make the world a better place. Is he
insane or his ideas ludicrous? Probably? But he means, well, yeah,
so you know, we got that going for us. He's got that
going for him. He doesn't mean it's like he's look right here, it's
the same heading the enemy. We have enemies. Our enemies are not bad
people, but rather bad ideas. Yeah, exactly, they're living in our
own heads, and Reason is not. He is subject to this as much
as anybody he's writing about. We all are we all, we all,
we all have this hurdle to jump over. We all have to realize our
own shortcomings, and we gotta we gotta be real careful on the road ahead
as we move forward with all of this, is all I am saying.
So you know that's as much true for Mark and Reason as it is for
you or I or anybody else. Okay, So let's just remember that.
So also, along with the sustainable development and the midst the growth and all
that stuff, is the Malthusian view of population, in that you know,
the earth can only handle a certain size population, and then once it gets
there, it has to be cut back, either artificially or naturally artificially.
It starts to get really scary because then it's like, well, who's controlling
the population by what means? You know, you get eugenics involved, it
gets horrible here on on this side of the thing. Let's here, So
let's let's see if we can get to this. Our enemy, this is
interesting again. Our enemy is deceleration, d growth, depopulation, the nihilistic
wish, so trendy among our elites. Oh, look at that, so
trendy among our elites for fewer people, less energy, and more suffering and
death. So our enemy is Friedrich Nietzsche's Last Man. I tell you one
must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing star. I
tell you you have still chaos in yourselves. This is from Nietzsche. Alas,
there comes the time when man will no longer give birth to any star.
Alas, there comes a time to the most despicable man who can no
longer despise himself. Okay, well, anyway, it's interesting. It's this
is fascinating because again, like at some point in here he's saying, like
we actually have to increase the population to like h fifty billion. I remember
skimming through this and he says something along those lines. So he's like he's
doing the thing, which again is what the knee jerk response in alternative circles
is. Well, if if this side of the coin is saying this,
and they're wrong and they want to control us, therefore I should go to
the opposite direction, and then that is the right thing to do. So
if the Malthusians are saying we need to depopulate the world, to say of
the planet, the actual right thing to do is to keep populating and populating
until you know, so we don't start, just keep going like never stop.
There are no limits to growth, like you just keep going and it'll
actually not make things worse but make things better because there's more of us we
can do more. Right, So he very much goes in a direction which
is interesting. Okay, this is okay. The patron saints of techno optimism
are also interesting to see. But anyway, I mean, that's it.
That's that's enough for now. I might give this thing an entire read and
make even more notes on it and see what I can derive from it.
But for now, that is my first take on the Techno Optimist Manifesto by
Mark and Treeson. I mean, I'm not too far removed from ourselves.
Sure, he's a billionaire, and you know he's he's living a different life
than us because of that. But other than that, in his mind,
he's not a whole lot different than you or I is he? That depends
on how your mind works, but I know how mine does, and it's
kind of similar to his. It certainly has been. I can admit that.
Can you? Can you do that? That's my question? How crazy
do we have to get moving forward in this bizarre world that we've all played
our part in building. We've all done our own little part in this,
and we all continue to do so. Should we be optimistic? Should we
be pessimistic? How can one even be realistic in the middle of all this
madness? How are we supposed to make anything heads or tails out of any
of it? Am I slipping headlong into nihilism. Am I getting in that
trap that Nietzsche warned us about? Is that the problem here maybe is God
dead? When somebody says God is dead, When Nietzsche said God is dead,
what does that mean? People like to pick that one apart, don't
they? I would, I would just say that For me, I find
that to be a highly esoteric sort of thing to say. To begin with
God being dead, there's a concept of the dying God. What is the
dying God? I think might be a clue to if God is dead,
we might want to look back into the past of what the dying God is,
what it was, what that means, things like that. And Nietzsche
is interesting. Nietzsche is one of those guys that you read and when you're
reading him, you hate the fact that you're agreeing with a lot of what
he's saying. For me, that's what it's like for me when I'm reading
It's like, this is really terrible, and I agree with it, and
it's and it makes you kind of upset. But you know, he was
giving a philosophy, philosophical take on our bizarre well, I mean, he
came before our time even but he's still what his philosophical take on things is
still very much relevant to the strange technological society that we are in keeps evolving,
and it has a evolution all its own. I think an interesting question
to ask is the technological society? Are we evolving along with it? Is
it evolving beyond us, past us? Is it taking over us? Is
it going to leave us behind? Or are we a part of it?
Or is this simply our Is this our evolution that we're taking hold of?
And technology is merely a tool. Things like this we might want to start
thinking about too, like who made who? But who's in control? Is
anybody really in control? Is it? Should we even want to be automation?
Artificial intelligence? What is actual intelligence? What what makes something artificial?
To begin with? What is artifice? What have we done with the artifice?
Already? Again gets back to the question of what is art what is
artificial? It seems like it's these It seems like it's easy question to say
answer, doesn't it? But you start trying and it's actually you find out
it's not. It's not so easy after all, And a lot of things
that we take for granted, maybe we've made a mistake in doing that.
You know, maybe it is all about the small things in life. Maybe
there's more meaning to that than again, the sort of exoteric way that we
want to view that, And it's sort of like the romantic version of it's
all about the small things, the little things in life. There's a hallmark
version of that, and then there's a horrific version of that as well.
So you gotta take the good with the bad, you gotta. You know,
it's the merry mother and crone world we live in, right, You
have to. You can't just embrace one then forget about the other two.
It's a trinity that we've we've been given. Our lives are cyclical in nature,
as that trinity points out, So we do have to remember that that
we are part of this perpetual motion. That do we view it as a
machine? Is nature? A machine? Is a nature? A natural machine?
Or is artifice that our creation? Is that? The only true machine
is the perpetual motion that we're all part of naturally? Is that above and
beyond the artificial? Or are they one and the same. It's the artificial
just a reflection of the natural. Is it wrong to make divisions? Such
divisions and things? I don't know Hey, I who am I to judge?
I'm not. I'm certainly not gonna tell anybody what to believe in it
comes to these strange philosophical musings. But you know, they're they're fun,
they're fun to have. It's great. Why why don't you sit down one
day and write something like the technoof your version of the technoof to this manifesto
many already have. You certainly could, and I encourage it, certainly writing
something like that, there's no harm in doing And I definitely don't think there's
any harm in Andreason writing this. If anything, it helped so we get
a little view into an interesting guy's mind, an interesting and influential guy.
I think it's very good to have some sort of be given, some sort
of understanding as to how the mind is taking And certainly that Andreason gave us
such a gift with this. So thank you, sir, I do I
thank you for your service in that regard. Whether anybody learns anything from it,
is you know, that's the balls in our court now? Probably not,
but you know, the possibility is there, The possibility to learn something
always there any given situation. We'll just make the most of it. Or
perhaps we'll make the least of it. I don't know whatever. This is
the Age of Transitions. It's the show you've been listening to here and we
are getting towards the end. I want to thank you for being here in
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That's the website. Check out revolve Man's Scientific Scientific Rise to Godhood. You
might get it. It does. There's a lot of interesting material when it
comes to the esoteric that and specifically as it relates to technology and transhumanism.
So if you are interested, as is obviously Mark Andres and then you might
want to pick up the book. I doubt that he's actually read it,
which is I don't know who's read the book. I always wondered that,
but I'm always fascinated to hear when people when somebody has like, oh,
yeah, I've read that. That's always really cool. So if that sort
of stuff interests you, pick up the book and read it, and you'll
be supporting the show. So I say thank you, hey really quickly.
Guess the guy who recently interviewed you, did he read your book yet or
because I know he was interested in it, I don't know. I didn't
ask him. I know that he brought it up on his shows, which
I was very happy about. I didn't ask him whether he read it.
I don't know. I wrote, well, I wrote a little bio FOREW
because I wanted to get you on there. So I wrote a little bio
and I was like, and you gotta definitely check this out. And here's
what people said about it. I found a I think a review one of
those sites, maybe like a good Reads or something. Yeah, okay,
And I sent him that and I was like, yeah, definitely, this
is definitely you know, he's not just a podcaster. He also is an
author, you know. So I was like, uh, yeah, definitely.
But he hasn't released that podcast yet, has he. No, it's
not released. I don't know what his schedule is that I know. I'm
not sure either. Yeah, I know. It's like it's like his own
personal podcast. It's because he does the radio show that he does his own
show, so it's his own thing that he's putting it out through. So
yeah, he does. He does a couple of things. He's got like
the indie podcast still and then he's got like a regular radio gig, and
then he's also got some TV thing going, you know, And that was
the thing I like for the first two people who did I put up,
I said, you gotta have Aaron Franz and you gotta have Larry Hancock.
I was like, the these are the guys, and he got both of
yet, but I don't know what he's doing with the order there. But
no, And I suggest you to people all the time, and you'd be
surprised that some of the people that are like, either I have the book,
or I have read the book, or I you know, like the
one guy told me one time, it's like, yeah, it's on my
pile here with the other books. I have to read that. And I
was like, oh cool, you know, because I always talk about you.
Yeah, that's a good pile book, that's for sure. Well,
no doubt about it. But the great thing is that, you know,
anybody who listens to this show, you could even support Aaron's work by telling
other people that they need to check out Aaron's work. You know, that's
that's true. Yeah, that does work a little share on social media.
I mean, Aaron doesn't do Facebook, so you could do Facebook for Aaron.
You know what I'm saying, just say, you know, mentioning.
Since we're talking about AI and all this other stuff. You know, there's
this guy who listened to all the time, who wrote a great book and
just so happens, and you never know, some people might just look at
it, you know, get an idea, be interested, and go buy
it. That have never heard of Aaron before. Next thing you know is
Aaron's got a book sale, he's got a new podcast listener, et cetera,
et cetera. And you could do that, you listener right, Yes,
I would encourage it. So if you do that, you are helping
the show. You are supporting the show, and that you might that is
good to remind people of because they might not realize that's what they're doing.
But if you take the time to do that stuff, it's it's a big
help. I can only do so much. Like I put out the show,
I publish whatever on the Age of Transitions dot com. The book is
up there and I can do that. But if you can just recommend it,
I mean, it's gonna be somebody that I don't know, like you're
talking to whoever. Even in the technological age, though, you know,
a word of mouth still works. You know, even if you do it
with tech and you just you know, like I said, bring it up
on Facebook. Hey you want to talk about automation. This just so happens.
I know about this book, this guy, you know what I mean,
he's got a podcast, he's got this, he's got that. Plus
he does this other thing called Uncle. You know, you just need a
little entertainment here you go, et cetera, et cetera. I mean just
saying, man, it's always helpful. And the more that you know other
people circulate our work, you never know who's listening and all that kind of
stuff. Actually, I got I got a weird word on somebody who's been
listening to the network lately who's a fairly well known person, and I'm trying
to confirm it, and it's just weird that they just sort of like knew
somebody like somebody's cousin this or that, and yeah, so it was like,
oh that's cool. Yeah, yeah, it's cool how that kind of
stuff will pop up. You'll just like hear that. I'm like, oh,
okay, that's good. It makes you feel good, it does,
yeah, definitely definitely. So and you never know, I mean, somebody
could go to airin and be like you know what, we need a new
guy and to write about AI stuff on name the TV show fill in the
blank. You know what I mean. Oh yeah, I could. I
could. I could sit here and like write scripts or books or like come
up with like fictional scenarios based on transunonism. I could do it. I
could stay up twenty four hours a day doing it, because it's it's endless,
Like there's like so many ways you could go with this, especially if
you're going into fictional realm you have you're completely unfettered. If there's so many
ideas, like you could go on forever. Like imagine this for a moment,
right, somebody who you know just happens to work for Netflix or whatever,
and they're looking to, you know, do some sort of extra Black
Mirror universe, and they were talking about doing the Red Mirror Universe and all
that. They might turn around and somebody might say, you know, there's
this guy who's written about transhumanism. He might have some interesting insights and da
da da, you never know, you miss, Please take it take a
chance on me, you insane people. You might I might actually you might
actually find that I do well by you. Because previous employers I've a I've
got references if you need. My previous employers all seem to like me,
so maybe I'll do good for you too, exactly, And I'm very you
got to sell yourself here, and I can attest, just for anybody who
would happen to be listening, I can attest that Aaron is very easy to
work with. So there you go, just telling you no fuss, no
must, intelligent guy and excellent author, and I guarantee you can make a
contribution to stuff like that any day. Plus very flexible individual as far as
his mentality goes. You know, you love experimental stuff. You love media
to be odd, the odd ball thing. You think you need a script
for something that's too odd, you know what it might be exactly what Aaron
wants to do, because Aaron is also a performance artist to sorts. So
you know, just saying yes, a lot of angles, a lot of
things, and people could just make it the right move one day, put
the right thing in front of the right person, and you never know,
your humble podcaster here could be you know, the next big thing, pumping
out scripts before they too turn it over to chat GPT to write them all.
Yeah, I know, who needs any of us? Right? I
saw you know what this week I actually wanted to bring them one thing up
to you. Did you see the weird like fervor they're having online about look
at the weird AI people that they put into the backgrounds of movie scenes.
Have you seen this lately? I've heard little bits and pieces of it.
Yeah. Oh yeah. They look like really like if you could imagine like
real dolls that were beat to hell or sort of thrown in the background.
They look like rubbery, strange people that the AI sort of filled in.
And like in some cases you got crowd scenes where there's like half a person,
and like the the AI didn't even bother to create a whole person.
They'd like the person's cutting half because it wouldn't be noticed generally in the deep
background of a movie scene. Weird stuff like that is already happening. Okay,
so you know, okay, that's great and that Yeah, just you
know, pay CLO's attention. You know, one of your kids could get
a horror film out of a Disney film now, because in the background of
a crowd scene there might be half a person wandering around. Okay, I'm
just saying it is there, it's present. I saw it this week and
the news hasn't made anything out of it. But there are people online freaking
out like, oh my god, look at the word the AI is doing.
The AI doesn't care about making old people. I'm like, well,
why would it, you know? I exactly. Anyway, there you go,
get quick, quicker time with that sort of half a body than a
full body. So yeah, I mean that's it. Though this is the
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Every week here at o'chilli dot com. Uncle, we're doing this. We're
back back again. Good. I'm glad. Uncle. Yesterday we did a
fun little live stream. Oh yeah, funny live stream we're going to we're
starting actually started it last Saturday yesterday yesterday. This first one we did first
one we did, and we did. We did. We did a kor
funny thing. We watched old NHS Casett yeah yeah, and Call one and
Against one that Crazy Accidents went yeah yeah. So so we got into that
and then we're in the middle of a bode one. Yes, we're not
finished it yet. So it's it's Uncle's VHS watch party or watch VHS watch
Party with Uncle as what it is. And it's just hopefully it's the same
thing as like the vintaged gaming with Uncle streams, like wherever we have time
on Saturday, will just break out the old VCR do a live stream.
And I bought some VHS tapes from the thurf store. I've got like six
of them. We went through two and a half. Now, Uncle was
saying, so we watch them and I I'm going to return them. Yeah,
so I buy them from the thrift store or whatever. We could buy
them from somewhere else, Uncle, but we'll give them back to the thrift
store when we give them back. I wrote a little piece of paper in
there what Uncle and I rated it. One day we raided and then we
put it in write down on a piece of paper and we put an Uncle
card in it. We put that in with the cassette and we return it
back to the thrift store. So if anybody is actually crazy enough to buy
the tape again, they'll know what Uncle raided and then find a website.
They see it, they see the cord, and then they'll go to They
might go to the show. Go to the show to push me for more
customers. How about that for an idea of getting customers. Uncle this is
That's a nice idea, a very smart Verice Moon idea. But listening to
something on that I think is funny. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
something ruining experience. The first one with the call was very learning experienced,
final to figure out how to fix corts. That really got to mind.
Car factory, yeah, factor, it's a video targeted at children. I
wasn't sure if it was until it started, but it certainly was. But
it was inside a car factory and it was cool. It was like inside
of a Saturn factory. They're building a Saturn car, if you remember that
make of car. It was the factory and you got to see the machines.
There's a natter narrator telling you what's going on. It was cool.
We watched that. We watched the country Line Dancing instructional video, which was
a lot of fun. I did some of that. You learned something,
I know something, But I did dance on that and did realize when I
was wasn't it that you've done I have done it? Then a few of
them then I said, yes, I did this before. Brought back memories.
Yeah, but me and Chunky and crazy Horse he uh, crazy Horse,
he would go nuts, he would do that. Yeah. Yeah,
so we had we had the good engagement in the chat. It was fun.
It's fun. We're just it's like you're saying around watching TV. Yeah,
but you're doing it and and and we're we're promoting the show where I'm
fun, We're engaging the audience. It's a good time. So we hope
we can do it next Saturday too. It looks like Creative Creative Accents is
in the Chili dot com chat right now. Yeah, he's in there.
So he was with us at the ind of the day, So thank you
Creative Accents for being there. It was kind of fun sweating to the oldies
place. Yeah, that would be good if we could get an old Oh
what's the guy's name, Richard Simmons. Yeah, that'd be a fun tape.
Yes, that would be more exercise. Yeah, that would be hilarious.
That he's a very good uh good as he's entertaining edits him in his
If I see that tape, I want used to buy it, watch it,
watch that, plug it out. These is but the exercise, it
was the way he gets you. He inspires you. Yes, I want
you need to get up and here we are holding on to the things and
how we're gonna have to do with the dancing head look funny. His motivational
style is it's entertaining. It's it's it's undeniably entertaining. Richard Simmons, He's
one of those guys that you like. When you think about me, you
just go like, where did that guy get to? He just kind of
like disappeared. He was huge for so long and I haven't seen him in
a decade or so. I don't remember last time I saw on TV.
But he used to always be there. I was help. Everybody knows him
that everybody of a certain age, I mean the younger generation, I don't
think too, but certainly old folk. To Oh and Sally Dalls back in
the chest. She was with us for the VHS watch Party. She's back.
She said. The question is did Richard Simmons have a headband or no
head band? Wait a minute, Uh, this is one of those mandolic
questions. R. I don't think so, but he did he? I
don't think he did. But oh no, so he did not wear a
headband. Okay, that's only I. I don't remember him wearing a headband,
although I feel like probably certain videos he might have a headband on.
Did had some and some didn't. It's depending on which ones you've been watching.
That seems right to me. But yeah, I didn't realize that was
one of those issues. That's funny they're dropping Richard Simmons images in the Ochli
dot com chats or doing that. Uh. And Chuck is asking what happened
to the lady named Susan Powers. I'm not sure who that is, but
probably the same thing that happened to Richard Simmons. I can only imagine Suzanne
Powers really quickly because I got to step away from the screen for a minute.
But Suzanne Powers was that lady that used to scream stop the insanity with
the really short blonde haircut, and she used to do uh, infomercials about
her her diet plan. You can eat like fifty potatoes or whatever instead of
a slice of cheese. Remember that. Yeah, that seems familiar exactly.
So Richard Simmons had Sweating to the Oldies and deal a Meal. That was
his two things. Remember deal e Meal. You have the deal Meal cards.
I don't remember the meal thing. I know the exercise stuff, I
don't know the meal. No. Dealer meal was like your diet plan.
So you have these cards and you're supposed to move them like from one side
of a wallet to the other or some some some such thing. And it
was like you're you know, when you're doing your sweating to the Oldies,
you get your deal a meal and you put it together. You know that
Sally Doll is saying that this Susanne whatever her name was, was so cool
as what she's saying. Yeah, she had she had the shortest haircut I've
ever seen on a woman on television, like up to that point for sure,
she says, shaved platinum blonde. She was like five hundred pounds and
lost a craft ton of weight. Yeah, from his exercise that he is
one with the posting make an exercise and pussing his weight and wants to lose
weight. That she he pushed them too, Simmons. Simmons pushes it.
I mean I watched him on the TV show and I see now he pushes
this. Yeah, he too had struggled with weighting in the past, so
exercising and then I remember one of his things was he would be like he
get really emotional with people who were current like women who are currently overweight,
and be like, they get all emotional and be like here he had to
hug them and be like, it's okay, we can do this, like
you're strong, blah blah blah blah, It's gonna be all right. And
like, I remember him doing that a lot. I remember that being his
thing. And yeah, I mean, if hey, I'm not gonna sit
here and say, don't change your life for the better, how could I
powder? Powder? Okay? I thought it was power, but powder.
Okay, fine. They put a picture of her. That's even better powder.
They put a picture of her in the chat room there sore. Oh
okay, let's go to the Chilly dot com chat let's see. Oh wow,
okay, And I just grabbed Richard Simmons with a headband by the way,
so just to show you stop the insanity, I do remember I remember
holding her hands to her head like that. Exactly. Can you see that.
I'll hold a little the hands to the head like that. She'd be
on three o'clock in the morning on broadcast TV. It would be like and
then the next thing would be like ron Pa Peel's Pocket Fisherman or whatever.
Ron Co, Yeah, Ronco exactly the best brand there is. I can't
think of a better one. Insanity. Oh yeah, I can see it
is not like familiar, man. I guarantee if I search it on YouTube,
somebody's got like retro crazy commercials like with her on it. I guarantee
it if I look, oh yeah, oh yeah, Sally saying, oh
yeah, I watched that too. Ye yeah, hey yeah. The Ronca
stuff set it and forget it. I mean, he's got a lot of
classics, you gotta you got a lot of ron pop piol Who do we
get on the line yet? I don't think we have any body hand the
line. Nobody yet. That's an image of shock. Oh it's like a
statue or something. You got a check a statue. Now, Well,
what I was gonna say is, you know, you should probably get an
Uncle avatar like that, because there's an avatar maker. Well, you're an
artist, so you could do it yourself. But you take a picture of
Uncle and you can make him into a statue or an emo guy or whatever.
You can make him into the joker, you know, like with one
click, you just feed the picture in. Got it that? That's what
I got that from. I can't do art like that, you know that.
I mean that's pretty yeah, it's pretty good. Good image. This
is uh I think this is Susanne powder right here? Oh god, sorry,
hold on it. They put a commercial on top of the commercial.
I'm trying to play, Yeah, commercials on commercials, so I'm going to
play on YouTube. But they got to give me another commercial for you.
Anyway, Let's see what we could do. Skip ed okay. Her name
is Susan, a woman whose own disappointing experiences with the diet and fitness industry.
Let us you discover the truth. It take you can. I'm becoming
lean, strong and healthy. Thousands have heard her message, and now you
can too. It's time to take It's time to stop the insanity. I
can wait five six, seven, eight breath, Come on, let's breath.
Want you a free preath with me? Please, let's break agree,
It's all like, put this together for a moment. Just let me give
me a moment. I have to say, all right, not about dieting.
It's a program that will change your life, any age, any weight.
Stop. The insanity makes it possible. I had to play it for
you. The insanity, Okay, I was. I was trying to find
her really quick, scanning to see if I could get her screaming it.
But because you used to screaming, like great, you can hear her screaming
doing her live thing in front of people. It just so happens that that
seminar was held in Dallas, Texas, by the way, So I was
just cracking. All right, great, anyway, I'm gonna I'm gonna put
the link in the chat room. If somebody else wants to scan this like
full infomercial, they can do it. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Hey,
if that was on a VHS tape, I grab it and watch that
too, exactly. Any of this. This is the sort of stuff I'm
looking for. I'm not wanting to grab like a full movie, like just
some old movie we watch a whole movie it's like the kind of more the
different special interest kind of VHS things, and like the informative non fiction uh,
and just bizarre whatever we run into, honestly, and things that are
also be less likely to be copyright violations and things like that, not that
they can't be, because remember the warnings we were given at the start of
those tapes. Uncle it told us like there were severe criminal penalties for Yeah,
I was afraid of those. I don't feel like to have them in
that and he had to have that. We took a chance, though.
We took the chance, and like I said, I'm gonna keep doing it
till we get to see some desist from this square dance instructors attorneys? Why
did the tourneys will be about a tape? Like I don't understand, Yeah,
exactly, I don't. No, I'm guessing they won't. The tape
was made in like nineteen ninety two, so they really care that much about
it still, Like I don't know, I would imagine the answers no,
but hey, maybe we'll be unpleasantly surprised if we are, fine, I'll
just take the video down. So what We'll just make another Only you mean
you mean differently to put it on and then they look at it. We
are talking about the exciting realm of intellectual property law. Uncle, I just
I didn't know that was involved in this. It always is when we're making
media. We have to always be mindful of these things. But it can
be fun. It can be fun even if we're making a joke out of
it, which I think that we have the way to do. Again,
I'm not scared by making YouTube videos where we're watching country line dancing instruction.
Just don't when we're in the mint of something and something like a layer comes
up, what do you do? I'm scared. I'll take care of that,
uncle, don't worry. WHOA all right? Any such wrongs and should
they arise? Let's see Sally Doll says stuff that won't be copyright claimed.
Yeah, yeah, that's that's exactly had. Late Late night PBS was the
best. She also said, So I guess late night PBS had. Yeah.
I remember personally. I remember watching the USA cable network. It was
USA the channel. I remember if you had watched that at like three or
four am, it got pretty weird. Like I remember waking up for some
job I had when I was younger, and I happened to turn the TV
on that and I can't remember what was even on there, but I was
like, what the hell is going on on USA TV at this hour?
Like I didn't realize it was like this that it's slipping my memory. All
I remember is it was really bizarre. So a late night programming got different.
It was a different, different stuff that they would air. Uncle.
Yeah, I'm sure you have memories of that sort of stuff TV. Uncle.
People can call in calling people the number three one nine seven five zero
one six. I can't too much talk in case I lost Jack and what
I'm talking about? What are we talking about them? I don't know.
I need I talk to get me. Do you want to talk about your
shirt? Do I mention that? Oh? Yeah, I was gonna put
this online, Yeah, to show people they got this crazy shit. It's
crazy. So we have to put this online as I show it. Yeah,
I could put the camera on it right now about you know here,
we're doing some special camera work. Check this out. Everybody can get on
with the microphone. Okay, so as you can see, this is Chuck's
own design. Oh gosh, we're getting crazy. So this is Chuck's well,
my design and well it was a collaborative project between Chuck and myself the
artwork. But it is an MST T shirt MST Ping Punky see Twister our
punk band, right, Uncle, Yeah, pump bluck pump luck glup,
that's what they call it. They call it that we started it actually on
my new evolution. I play the music on a new evolution. That's when
one evolution comes up. That will be only my show. He won't have
his show because mine's a very long show. Yes, on that, I
know you're talking about the New Year's shows four hours long. Yeah, the
full hour show, the long show, yeah, and until you right out
of it. Do you want to play some punk songs on it? Is
that what you're saying? We could because we'll have the guitar. We do
a special guitar intro and all that. So maybe we could do some punk
songs if you want this year and this year and we'll do some. I
would like to play some special little clips and stuff for the show this year.
What is Uncle dressing up as for Halloween? Do you have a costume?
No? Just look like this, Yeah, I think wearing this shirt.
The shirt if you wear that out in front of the house and you
give out candy. I think that's crazy enough. That is crazy enough.
They just look at the shoot yeah they you here you oh yeah, yeah,
you're gonna do the mohawk. Yeah, that was doing issue in the
back. That would be cool. Shoot Creams striped Cream. Creative Accents is
saying that he has that shirt too. Yeah, I know he has,
so Chuck made the shirt. He's going to give them out at Dallas for
anybody who's going to that. He's gonna have some for if anybody shows up
to that, you could have that shirt too. He's kind of bring on.
So just a handful of those plus uh, Aaron's DVDs, Aaron's book,
right, a couple of a couple of baseball hats still left too,
and uh yeah, and there's a couple of mousepads which have combined a bunch
of shows on them. I wouldn't get a mouthpad for this. Yeah,
mousepad is actually handy. Yeah, you know it would be a mouse pad
that that nine on the front would be a great design for a mousepad.
Oh the ms, Yeah, that would be good. Yeah, going to
say to get one mouse pad from him. I think it'd be funny if
it says something punkish like this mouse pad or something like that, we could
write on there or something like this is something stupid like that would be something
stupid, something funny. Yeah, it was something funny. Yeah. Just
because I'm a mousepad doesn't mean I'm cheesy, Yeah exactly. Or you can
just put on it, you know, like just steal the slogan from Chester
Cheetah. It ain't easy being cheesy. Easy being cheesy. Oh I had
Chester Cheetah. Yeah, I remember that, and I wash there was a
Chester sheet of VHS tape and it probably is. I think there is.
I wouldn't doubt it. I'm sure that there was some kind of weird because
there was that time when they started turning all the corporate logos into stuff.
They even made that which, by the way, it's an expensive game now
if you try and get the seven up spotpot Yeah yeah, yeah, I
have that on the computer and I remember renting that from the video rental shop
when I was a kid. I rented Spot and I really liked it.
That game is great. The animation in that is top notch for the time,
and it wasn't very popular, but it is now like this sought after
collector's item like the cartridge and everything. Yeah, yeah, it is.
Yeah, it was a rare game, you know, but it's it's a
it's a good game. And yeah, art art wise and animation wise,
it's it's great. It's similar to Earthworm Gym was really good with the cartoon
animation on Superintent know like that. Those are two games that pop out to
me. Like Spot was on n e s though, which made it even
weirder. They had a Super Nintendo one, did did they make They made
a Nintendo one too. I think it was on several platforms or they made
different versions. I think they might have a game Boy one too. I
don't know. I don't have to look it up then because I only I
remember then e S one only, so maybe I wasn't aware they made one
for Super There was Super Nintendo and Genesis version. That's the one that I'm
most familiar with. Yeah, I don't know, so that's that's the way
those things go, though, they're there when they were transitioning from the Nintendo
to the Super Nintendo. There are a couple of titles that crossed over that
they would do a version for both, and usually like the Nintendo version was
just a not as good version of the Super Nintendo game. Well, there's
a couple of games like that. Yeah, the Spot game comes up as
an n E S game. Really yeah, okay, I don't know.
Wow, that's crazy. They're actually kind of cheap here on some of these
websites are advertising on eBay. Oh it's eBay. Okay. eBay has a
vintage Nintendo NES seven up Spot in the video game cartridge, tested only thirteen
forty nine. It's not bad. It's not bad at all. It's pretty
good. Yeah, let's see. Oh, here's one that's factory sealed.
Oh yeah, okay, here we go. A factory sealed one goes for
two hundred and forty nine dollars. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's the
collective one. There you go. Okay, Yeah, I'm looking here.
Yeah it looks like any as game. Yeah, I know there's a Super
Nintendo game too. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. Okay, I
mean I see a playthrough on YouTube. Cool Spot Here we'll go to the
Wikipedia page. Real Fast. Cool Spot is the nineteen ninety three platform game
developed by Virgin Games USA for Mega Drive Genesis, Super Nintendo entertainment system.
Also, yes, there it is. Okay, so they did develop it
for Super New Intendo as well. Alrighty, I did not know that.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I know that one for sure. But then
when they released it in ninety three, was then was the Super Nintendo available
yet? Yes? I forget what year I think, so I forget it
was right around that time that let's say ninety ninety one, nineteen ninety,
right around ninety or ninety one, I want to say, the Super Nintendo
came out. Let's see it like that. Okay, Super Endia sixteen bit
home video game console developed by Nintendo that was released in nineteen ninety in Japan
and Korea, ninety one in North America, ninety one in North America,
ninety two in Europe in Oceania okay, yeah, and ninety three in South
America. So there you okay, all right, yeah, yeah, the
Super Nintendo is good. These booms seem to be quiet tonight. The phones
are quiet. Nobody's calling, in which means we got plenty of open lines.
People. Uh so three one nine, five, two seven, five
zero one six. You can jump in and talk to uncle. You can
talk video games, or we can talk comedy or whatever else you want,
go for it, please, please do Okay, we need this, we
need callers. We don't know what to do with ourselves. I can't know
what to talk. I can't talk right now. I named my color not
to know what to do next. I'm in the problem. When the clothes
speak, we talked, well, we were talking about baseball before we went
to air, because the playoffs are happening right. Well, yeah, we
were playing. We're doing that. But look look what happened now. Now,
the Dogies they knew they didn't have the pitching staff. I don't know
how they got up there and fast, but they went first. Well now,
yeah, sure the last scene not this year for the Dodgers happened because
they were looking for the pitches. The pictures Philadelphia Phillies are there. Hey,
But looking at how the Phillies came back and they took care of my
Braves. Finally got mead to those. Yes, I always liked it when
they beat the Braves. Hated and just didn't like them. Yeah, with
them, I never did like age. If you're a Phillies fan, you
definitely don't like the Braves being the divisional rival. That's for sure. Yeah.
I remember watching the Phillies on TV back in the nineties and the Braves
were always like the adversary team more than any other team, and I didn't.
Yeah that's the big one. Yeah, that's a big one. As
far as I can remember, Like my memory is, the Braves was the
ones that take out. So they did that. So that's good. And
now they're playing the Diamondbacks and they're up through two in the series. It's
looking good for them. If they can keep it up, they'll I think
they played. What time they are they? Yeah, they got game saying
I got them on the phone. I just looked up the Rangers and the
Astros are tied to three. Huh tonight looks like it, it says today
Texas Rangers. Yeah, it says MLB today. Good good. I don't
like to see did in Texas team beat them? Yeah, yeah, it'd
be good. That'd be something. Then we can watch a Wolf series without
watching them. I'll watch I'm watching a Wolf Series game as long as they're
out of it. Well yeah, I mean the World Series. I feel
like we always end up watching that, like the regular season of baseball.
I just I feel like it comes it's like, oh cool, we should
go see a game in the park sometime, and like maybe Angel games.
I just never end up watching one on TV. I just don't do it.
And I like to watch them live. You like to watch them one,
you do not like to watch them on a tube. This is what
I I would live to see a hockey game, yeah, yeah, yeah,
and they will play that. They were playing somebody tonight, actually the
the Ducks. The Ducks, they were playing somebody good tonight. Yeah,
but you can get them in the Ducks of the Rain, I think would
be good. Yeah, well, we'll have to try and make it to
one of those sometimes. And then yeah, I love seeing baseball live.
It's great. And then I just I find I don't watch televised games until
the postseason. Then I'll start watching some and ord series. Always watching Rangers
Astros is tomorrow night, I guess, uh, And then that'll be the
seventh that's the seventh game. That's the seventh game tomorrow night, and then
they're gonna be in Texas. Then see it's well it says Rangers Astros,
so that usually means that the Rangers are at the Astros. Right, Yes,
wait a minute, they didn't play two games there three games. It
sounds like they're in Houston from the description the title that show, right,
Yeah, they list the Rangers first, so that to me means, yeah,
that the Rangers are playing at the Astros because they back first, so
they're listed first, right, So that's the way team home team that second,
right, So you know, unless they change that too along with everything
else, I don't know. So now it's time. Yeah, well so
Monday, Monday night, it'll be three to three Game seven between the Astros
and the Rangers. In Game six between the Diamondbacks and the Phillies on Tuesday,
right, so that's a Tuesday game for the Phillies and Diamondbacks. Okay,
that'd be good to watch. They we should watch. That would be
that I really enjoy watching. Well we can if I got if if we
can get it, pv A pie, you know, pulled off your sons
games while maybe we'll be able to watch them apia. Yeah and you know
what I mean? Yeah, I usually I usually I'm just not watching TV
personally, and then somebody else is like, they can watch TV. What
do I care for a baseball series is only yeah you would want? Well,
it's getting serious now is time stop playing the games for a few minutes
and the watch of baseball. So the Diamondbacks will be at the Phillies home
stadium on Tuesday. Uh yeah, eight o'clock, eight oh seven start.
Oh yeah, so the Phillies are playing at home against the Diamondbacks. Go
good to deal with Philadelphia exactly. The Diamondbacks used to have that good picture
though for me, who was it? I I just remember that they had
a good picture. But he came from he came from the It's like Leander.
It wasn't him. Did they have him? I don't know. He
came from San Francisco. And he was a good batter too. Oh you're
talking about Oh yeah, I know you mean, oh gosh, bum bum
bum guard. Right yeah, yeah, that's yeah, Okay, I'm going
I forgot he was on that team. He was on that team. The
only thing I regret about missing on the playoffs this year is I got to
miss the the Yankees getting beat Huh okay, finish those Yankees are finished.
I like watching the Yankees lose. That's good. Always got to the Mets.
My cousin was looking to tell me, watch a message. What's the
message? Start watching the Mets and they're starting falling apart. What the heck
am I watching here? He was saying, we're not going to be watching
it no more as a guy, as a guy who even to this day
still owns a couple of Mets. Let me tell you something, maybe if
we want to be depressed, go ahead watch the Mets. Okay. I
love that scene and Family Guy. You ever see that in Family Guy with
Stewie Uncle. He goes, oh, this is worse than being a Mets
fan. And then they bring him to the stadium real quick and he's got
a Mets hat on. They go, Welcome to Opening Day at Shay Stadium,
and the season's over. It's beautiful anyway. At least other teams have
like peaks and troughs. The Phillies definitely aren't like that. Yeah, they
actually get good every Yeah, Phillies get good every couple of years. And
playing in that home stadium, there is a home team home field advantage when
you when you play in Philly because those fans are wild. I mean,
that's one of those I try to tell people about that out here in California.
People don't realize out here how insane it is in Philadelphia, especially when
it comes to press sports and how crazy the fans are. They just don't
know that out here. I tell them. I'm like, uh, the
Miami Philadelphia game this week, they were talking about, yeah, Miami is
practicing. I'm like, yeah, they're practicing taking uh full beer cans to
the face, because that's what they're going to practice. Philadelphia. You know,
you gotta remember the Tri State area, we invented throwing D batteries at
players, you know what I'm saying, Like they did you remember the Mets
they were getting hit with D batteries. I mean, they really get and
flogged. These impias who say stop throwing them in the stadium. It gets
crazy. I guarantee you going to so many damn battery out of the coins
the videotape out there, they had to stop a game because like the one
night, somebody threw a couple of batteries right, so people got mad.
And then the next night so many people came back with batteries. It was
like raining batteries in the outfre. They had to stop a game. I
remember watching this game on TV and I'm like, this is this just lovely
wonderful? Uh? And I was just like what are they doing? And
the announcers like, I think they're throwing D batteries and yeah, I remember
they had letting them change them. Yeah, well that's what I'm supposed hard.
It's hard to stop. They couldn't stop them doing one thing. They're
gonna do something. No, I remember, I remember distinctly because it was
like a sports channel New York and uh what was it. Keith Hernandez and
Ron Darling are sitting there trying to, you know, like be nice about
it, and they're like, I'm not sure what they're throwing, and Keith
Hernandez is like, uh, it's D batteries. Ron, come on,
you know they watching them and they might have hit them on the heads.
But I got the helmets on. You know, he outf exactly walk around
like John Olrud He used to he used to wear the helmet in the in
the field, remember all root. Yeah, well he had some head injury,
so he wore a helmet even when he played first base. And it's
hilarious because you know, it's like, these guys need a veteran stadium.
That would be a wise choice all the time. Yeah, and my my
uncle has great stories not just of sporting events, but concerts. They's been
two and man, some of the stuff that happens at venues in and around
Philadelphia, it's pretty wild. Well, another worst kept secret is Giant Stadium
because Giants fans are absolutely complete jerks. They're they're just absolute ers, and
they'll beat you up everything. You know, don't show up a giant stadium
where in the other team's jersey, you know what I mean? Not a
good idea. And that was a lovely team with the Giants, though,
the would the Dodgers, right, Oh you're talking you know, well I
was talking football there for a second. Oh oh yeah, because there's a
Giants base Yeah, that gets confusing the football the football Giants the baseball Giants.
And that's what I was. No. At one point they were both
in New York, but not since what nineteen sixty or something right somewhere in
there, we know when when California got the Dodgers and the Giants, right,
you know too funny. All you need to know about the attitude and
what you're gonna deal with when it comes to Philadelphia sports fans, it's very
very simple. Take a look at their hockey mascot gritty. So I gotta
know, look at gritty and tell me what you think of. Tell me
any positive thought you have when you look at gritty. Get on the name
too gritty. Have you seen gritty uncle gritty thing? Oh it's good.
Oh you got to show Uncle gritty you do think? So? It's idious
funny. It's completely insane. It looks like it looks like a mascot went
completely insane. His jersey's dirty. I mean, I'm serious. He's like
he looks messed up. It's like it's like it's like somebody beat up mister
met and any and he liked it. You know what I'm saying. Like
he's got his eyes are all bulging out of his head. I'm serious.
Show him gritty. Yeah, I'm pulling. He got images up. Now
there he is. You see that's Uncle Gritty Gritty. That's the Flyers mascot.
I never seen it. It is clever. I it is clever for
for a Philadelphia teammate. It was I know it, did see it till
now. It's funny. He got it. He got it all right there
with Uncle's reaction to it. Oh, I mean, yeah, I see
it. I see and I see the baseball guy. Yes, well,
yeah there is with the Philly financial fanatic guy. I know him. Yeah,
everybody knows the finish Yeah, classic man. That was the best,
believe the best mascot of all time. Well that's back when they were.
You know when they were it was funny, it was like cute. It
was it was good for kids and everything. You know. They had the
Philadelphia Fanatic and the what it was it the San Diego Chicken. Those were
the two. Yeah, they were I remember him, those were the two
past you remember the chicken. Yeah, mister met was just the guy with
a baseball for a head. Yeah, yeah, that was his head with
a baseball head. It works exactly. It's something no I like gritty though,
gritty as hilarious gritty. He just looks crazy, funny. He looks
like a fan. But yeah, yeah he was actually a fan. He
looks like a Philadelphia is a fan standpoint of a mascot. He looks like
a fan that showed up to watch the Flyer game. But here's the thing.
He actually showed up the day before for the teen Nuja cut consert,
right, and he's been drinking everything long time. Yeahouse, when it's supposed
to come. When are we supposed to watch these hockey games? Yeah,
exactly, they watch the Flyers. Uh, but the Ducks play the Flyers.
I don't know if they do. I don't know how the conferences.
I don't know any of that. With the NHL, it's it's confusing as
hell. I even used to look at this schedule. Oh yeah, I
know that the schedule. I'll tell you what, uncle, Look, you
can figure out the playoffs for almost anything else. You tell me how the
playoffs work in hockey, please, because I don't even understand it in hockey
hockey. I don't know the conferences. I don't know who plays who.
I don't know any I no idea. I would imagine the Ducks and the
Phillies won it because they're on the opposite sides of the country. But I
don't know who ever gets uh stays up on the top. That would be
that's who plays the other people on this side of whoever was on that side.
I have to see it on. What I have to do is I
have to see it on paper, the sports page paper, and and I
can explain it. You look at the grid, okay, but even so
you you I guarantee you won't be able to tell me who's actually gonna make
it for like their version of the wild card, forget it, because they
got they got like the Campbell Division. I gotta I gotta pull this up
because it's two point you gotta pull it up. Ample divisions. Yeah,
games like that. Yeah, weird like that? Hold on, yeah right
exactly, hockey as well, get into this. I definitely don't know it.
NHL divisions you go, Okay, divisions, all right, So where
are the divisions. Let's see the NHL games news standings. Okay, NHL
divisions. Okay, Official site of National Hockey League. Okay, you got
the Eastern Conference ESPN Complete NHL okay, Official Site of National Hockey all right.
Uh, you have the Metropolitan Conference okay, and the Atlantic Team,
which are two subdivisions of the Eastern Conference. Then you have the Western Conference
with the Central and Pacific and okay, they've simplified this. They have simplified
this. Yes, they have the Metropolitan in Atlantic which are both part of
the Eastern, and then in the West you have the Central and Pacific.
So they've actually made more sense out of it with the expansions after the Ducks
and as that's what happened. Okay, yeah, man, and put the
expansions in and they changed it around. Okay, so the expansion team team,
yeah, but not before the more recently, what the Vegas Golden Knights.
Okay, yes, the Laden Knights. They are the ones that win
it this past year. They've got a lot of new Yeah, they won
it this past year that I do know. Yeah, teams that I know
were not around when I was a kid. Vegas Golden Knights, Okay,
the Nashville Predators, the Minnesota Wild because I know there were North Stars and
now they have the Dallas Stars. The Colorado Avalanche came after I was a
kid, for sure. The Anaheim Ducks after the movie, right, yeah,
I remember that they used the same cartoon from Disney and the original logo
with the purple, teal and black kind of like a goalie mask, right
like, yeah, yeah, it was a goalie mask made that looked like
Donald Duck. They cartoon goalie mask. The Arizona Coyotes I didn't even know
existed until I just looked now, the Counties, the Coyotes. Have you
seen them play? I never even heard of them before. Yeah, they've
got a they got a. Their cooti logo is very Southwestern Native American kind
of looking imagery. The coyote I remember, correct. The Florida Panthers,
I don't remember them existing. At one point there was something called the lightning.
I thought in Florida. No lightning is the lightning. There is the
blue and white, the Campa Bay. They're Tampa Bay. They were in
the playoffs. They were in the playoffs a couple of years and won it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the Tampa Bay Lightning. They won,
right, they won it one time, but one time. They want
a couple of years back, well, which probably means seven, don't.
I don't even see a lightning anymore? Okay, really, yeah, I
see the Florida Panthers. This is what I'm telling you. If I list
all these teams. The Carolina Hurricanes is another team that didn't exist when I
was a kid. Okay. Oh. Columbus Blue Jackets. Yes, now
see that might know because I went to school in Columbus Nation Hide Arena.
The Blue Jackets. Yes, it's a very fascinating team name. I made
a little video about it, like what the hell is a blue jacket?
And then I, oh, here's about that. Yeah, here's the Tampa
Bay they exist. Yeah, I have the video still Patreon. It is
you look at the Patreon people there you Tampa Bay Lightning still exists. I
found it. Okay. I was going to say, the lightning does exist.
That's the Tampa Lightning. Yeah, Tampa Bay. You're right, Tampa
Bay, Tampa Bay Lightning. That one it last but three years years ago?
Yeah, because it was Vegas last year and then maybe it the year
before it was. I don't know, like I said, And there used
to be the North Stars. I don't see the North Stars anymore, but
I see the Dallas Stars, which is another that that places them. Yeah,
Davis Davis, David Jewish team. Yes, the San Jose Sharks.
That was a newer team. But that's all that's a new they're old now.
Yeah. Yeah, but like I said, not when I was a
kid, when I was a kid watching the Rangers, right, yeah,
I mean what what teams did they get rid of? Too? I don't
see the Maple Leafs so they still exist. Let's see. Oh yeah,
I don't know. Ye, the couple Toronto and then they're the Edmonton Yeah,
and then there's the Montreal Canadians. Candians. Did they get rid of
the Canadian teams? No, Montreal Canadians, Ottawa Senators. Yeah, let's
see, let me see what all the Canadian teams? Real fast, here
we got let's see. Yeah, Montreal Canadians, all right, Ottawa Senators,
Toronto Maple Leafs. Right. Uh. Somewhere on here, we're going
to find the Winnipeg Jets, the Calgary Flames. There's plenty of Canadian teams.
Edmonton Oilers, right, yes, the Seattle Kraken Fish. Yes,
yes, that's a new one. That's that's a new one. Yeah,
that's a new one. The Vancouver Canucks. There's another. Yeah, that's
a new one. Another that's for Robin. That's who Robbins, rob that's
Robins. I remember singing the praises of that team. Yeah, that's his
team he loves because he likes he's from He loves that team because he's from
there. And Winnipeg is Yeah, I wish I had a club. It's
almost like almost half of the teams are Canadian. A Well, it makes
it, it makes sense. They all they are all Canadians. They should
know. They all Canadians. They're all Canadian players, every one of them.
A Canadian players very popular hockey. Hockey sport is all Canadians. Then
I can tell you huge, huge, Yeah. Yeah, it's a way
of life. Everybody plays it up there. Ye from what I'm told,
so yeah, big sport sporting Canada. Uh, not as much hair.
But you know we won't go see a game when you say's uncle, I'm
very open to it. I like this good things. But I love to
see when they have fights. Boy, you gotta watch real live. But
they have to fight. Sticks go up, teams go in the wolves,
people go crazy. I remember that when Rangers game it was a little small
right lambored them fighting and chopping and going and I have to go in the
penalty box. Oh boy, that was some action. That's action. Let
me tell you that's action. I believe it. I mean when you see
that, it's There was a movie out one about a hockey, a hockey
movie. There's a couple of hockey movies and nick game was trying to go
down to blow it up. And was it in Boston? It was in
It was in a Boston Boston team. They were in a game and they
were coming down. Yeah, they have that bee. It's that Bruins its
busting boom, the big b the Boston Bruins. Yeah, and and and
the and the guy was coming down. He was exploding the stadium, really
blowing something. Incurity guy uh was trying to get after him. I forgot.
The name of the movie was called That's Hockey. It's in a hockey
or it wasn't in hockey meaning and going crazy. It was I'm still in
an action movie. Sounds good, ones, Uh? Was the Robert Redford
did a hockey movie. A bunch of a bunch of famous actors have actually
done some weird hockey movies and stuff. Okay, So I looked it up
to see because I'm going with him. I having a Mandela episode here because
I'm saying to myself, why is Central East? Those are sensible names for
hockey, right, No, see in the nineteen eighties, these were the
divisions Aaron, the Patrick Division, the Adams Division, the Norris Division,
and the Smythe Division. Those were your four sets in the eighties. Okay,
That's what I was talking about when I said, oh, they're named
like something weird, like specific names there. It is Patrick, Adams,
and Norris and Smythe. Those were the divisions full divisional names. Yeah,
I wish they didn't get rid of those. That makes it fun. Yeah,
but they expanded, times changed, times changed. They try to make
things, make some a little more sense for people to be a little fall
along. So I guess that's not a bad thing. That's common. Folks
who don't know much about hockey can jump in a little easier. Yeah boy,
Yeah, but Uncle, we got to remind listeners to press the buttons
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We're making we're making people happy. It's beautiful. Bring a tear to
my eye. We got any audience listening to Jack? Was that? How?
Oh you want to know where they're listening from? Yeah, yeah,
all right, I'll get that for you since since there's no callers. Yeah,
I'll get it. Just give me a minute here because it takes a
minute. I'm looking at the craziness. I just put a link in the
chat room though, about all these like crazy uh machinations that the NHL went
through. And it's only twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, they finally, you
know, rearranged everything because there were thirty one teams by then. But there's
all kinds of crazy stories in there. There's one I'm reading about it's like,
oh, well, this team played six games and then they're they're Arina
burn down, uh like, oh my gosh. And you know where it
was, right, It was in Pittsburgh, So Pennsylvania. Yeah, there
was literally a hockey team called the Pittsburgh Pirates, a hockey team. Really.
Yeah, they already had the Penguins, they had that was the Penguins.
That was the movie. That was the team, not nineteen or what
the movie was about the penguins. There was a Penguins and and the mascot
came out and he was he was that he was a penguin. He was
a penguin should be and it was a bad one. But they were going
in and and the little girl, I now remembered it now, the little
girl, the little girl. He was the guy that was working there handed
a little girl and and bad penguin did something. And the bad penguin did
something, and and and and and got into the machine and not the guys
down terrif. Yeah, I just remembered the part of the movie now that
was there was a Penguins. It was in Pittsburgh. Was where the where
the show was because Penguins Money with You was was on a show was it
was a show about there's a show about the penguins. The dad penguin and
they will go and they were playing a hockey game. I forget who dance
It was in that stadium. Not a penguin was doing stuff and they're in
the stadium. Yeah. Now there was all kinds of other teams that came
and went because you got to realize the NHL. A lot of people think
it only started a couple of years ago, but I mean their official history
begins somewhere and it looks like nineteen seventeen. So when they started back then,
there's a whole lot of crazy stuff that went on where they had these
teams coming and going, and you know, he had an Ottawa Senators back
then, in Montreal Maroons, New York Americans they had at one point,
yeah, Pittsburgh Pirates. And it turns out the Montreal Wanderers were the ones
that played six games in nineteen seventeen and eighteen before withdrawing after their rink burn
down. That's what it is, okay, And yeah, and then they
actually had a Canada Conference at one point that was different. Yeah, it's
all kinds of crazy stuff. They shuffled these teams around all over the place,
and teams came and went. The Cleveland Barons, the Colorado Rockies were
created. I remember them. Yeah, the baseball's here. Yeah, yeah,
no, that's yeah, it is a baseball team. But from ninety
yeah, but from seventy six ninety two, that's a new new one.
Well, baseball expansion. It's Banshie t nineties. That was a ninety two.
Remember, yeah, that was a ninety two. I remember that's when
the Marlins came in. Mar Yeah, they selling. Marlins came out,
but in all the mains came. Yeah. But from nineteen seventy six to
nineteen eighty two, Colorado Rockies were hockey team. Oh the Quebec Nordeks.
There's a team that's not around it anymore. Tampa Bay Lightning started in nineteen
ninety two, Ottawa Senators started in nineteen ninety two. Says okay, Yeah,
there's a whole bunch of these on here, the different things, crazy
stuff that happened, teams that came and went. It's just it's wild to
look at it. You know, I'm exciting NHL history, Uncle, greet
up on it. The link is at the ohl dot com chattering man put
it in this. I'm looking at your international people, and to tell you
the truth, it's a little like tonight, uncle, Yeah, all you
got is Australia and Mexico. Outside of the US. Oh my god,
what's going on? People? Everybody watching the Dolphins and the you know,
we're saying they're talking, they're not doing that. Now then I don't know
what they're doing. They don't have an excuse anymore. We're talking to hockey
and there's no Canadians on here. What's going on? Yeah, that's surprising.
You know what's surprising. We're talking this and I'm surprised they haven't jumped
on because I heard you listening to this. I hear you listening to that.
That's how I get my customer. It's because they didn't press the button.
They don't know that wor press the button. They'd be following the live
stream right now on YouTube. Push the button, then people, we get
those monkey Shoe Twister shirts out there, we get some street cream. It'll
be all right, Sae. That's how it works, really, that's all
we need. Yeah, Uncle, let's wrap up the show. Do you
want to do any shout outs between us? Do you want to shout anybody
out? Shout out to those listening and sorry for you, shout out callers,
shout out to your callers that didn't have a good conversation for tonight.
You got your shout out for you guys. Now, if that's it for
me, Uncle brings up a good point. You call out and you get
to do a shout out too. He shoutouts for you guys you lost out.
Shout out to VHS cassettes and everybody who donates them to the thrift store
or sells them at garage sales. I thank you for your contribution to VHR
VHS watch party with Uncle. He couldn't make the show without you. You
know what would be a christ idea, Aaron really fast, just the crazy
You know those lending libraries you see in penn parks and stuff where people put
the books, and they put books in there. I wonder what would happened
if people started putting VHS tapes in there? People would, right, somebody
might come along and throw what's so fun about it? What do you think
about it? Though you might watch it? We can get this. I
feel like there's there is a faint possibility of people like getting into like retro
VCRs and doing that. I know that cassette tapes had a research ince a
couple of years ago. So well, they still sell them. Look,
you can still see them at like the good Will store and stuff. You'll
still see stacks and VHS tapes. Yeah, That's where I'm good from.
Yeah, I mean, so the thing is and I know that occasionally working
VCRs come in and out of those places. I've seen them, so you
know, people use them. And look if I if I found, you
know, a VCR and I found thirty forty tapes and somebody goes, yeah,
take twenty bucks, take it. I'm taking it, you know.
Yeah, it's entertaining, Like you can spend that many hours just watching us
things up to a TV. Again, some stuff that was available on VHS
is not available on DVD, despite the fact that you will think so,
you know, like for instance, if you wanted the original cut of Star
Wars, you can't get on the DVD no more. It's all the touchdoff
you know, retrofitted, changed up versions. You know that, right,
Yes, I know that. Well, Chuck, I saw a copy of
that actually at the third story of the other day. It was one of
them. It wasn't full trilogy of his Empire Strikes Back or something something that
we can listen to talk about copyright in Finnish. Definitely that the letterbox version
of that, by the way, you know, the letterbox one that came
in the either the gold or the silver packaging for Star Wars. One of
those contains the actual original cut of the movie that like even the people that
made the movies claim they don't have a copy of anymore. Like Disney doesn't
even allegedly have a copy of this in their vault. Okay, And there's
some of those fo on VHS tapes, all kinds of weird treasures like that,
just saying, you know, all right, so long story short,
press the button show us on our VHS watch party and we'll get a tape
the tape party. What is that on? Is that NHS Enthusiast club going
about? That? Is that on Instagram? Like? Wh Where do you
watch that? Instagram? Twitter? Everything? What? Yeah? Yeah,
YouTube, Twitch, Instagram, all the live stream channels where you get to
live stream videos, you can watch it. So the VHS watch parties on
all the live stream channels for uncle. Right, right, So that's been
fun. I want to keep I want to keep that up. I like
that one. You should listen to it. Did chick Oh, I'm gonna
watch it. It's up on YouTube now all right, that's the end of
the show. Bring us home here. There is a show U three one
three three willing three show for tonight. I mean