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Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm
Steve Rivera, He's Jagan zawis got our girl and at least in with us
today. Glad to see you guys. Haven't entered the portal and I'm here
today. I thought about it, but I said, yeah, you got
so I need something to do. You know, no one will want me.
If I'd have thought of it, I might have jumped in, Steve,
I'd have thought of it. I might. At about one o'clock this
morning, when I was getting home, knowing I had to be up at
five point thirty, I thought about jumping in the foot. I'll tell you
about five nights. Yeah, just five nine. Hispanic guard. I'm not
too from the outside, not teacher, but he needs I have about a
twenty five golf handicap. Well, I think you're better off here than you
are. I don't. I've said it at six foot two. Hey,
welcome back. He was of the crazy four days in Phoenix or Glendale at
the final four of so much to unpacked, but let's go for the important
parts. I know you might have this for breaking news, but everyone's freaking
out in Tucsons. They don't have a team anymore, you know, batten
down their hatches, get used to it. It's the world. This happened
to Dan Hurley last year. And what did he do? Won another national
championship without any doubt, like no doubt who the best team in the country
was all year long, kick the crap out of everybody in the in the
NCAA tournament. Guess what what do you had? Like six new guys?
He lost four starters from last year. Yeah, it's funny because you were
in the press conference and he talks about, oh, now on a point
where I'm gonna dread it because I know you gotta go to the portal.
I thought that was I thought that was hilarious. He said, I dread
this part of it, which is having to get you know, go jump
in the portal and get players and fill out your team again. And and
the fact that you know it's happening everywhere hell, you could be Kentucky and
looking for a freaking coach right now, right, No, Yeah, this
is just the way of the world. It's funny. And I don't know
why I do this and my job I don't even have a job, but
my job of looking at the stuff to talk about and the Facebook and just
really irks me now and I don't know why. Maybe I'm getting old and
grumpy, like you guys describe me. I'm following that prophecy where people you
know, don't they don't know what's going on, and they just put stuff
on the Internet and you're thinking, that's not what it is, and I
don't have time to explain it. They don't think that, they don't think
anything through then they as we said that, you know everything you know,
Arizona loses. The player in the world is ending. Why would he leave
Arizona. Well, maybe because there's a better place for him to be correct
natural fit Umar Ballo right, perfect example. His time is up here.
Sure it ran its course. He's got a year left and go, you
know, get himself in a spot. You know, Tommy's got guys in
the background ready to go. You know, I don't feel bad for him.
He shouldn't. You know, we shouldn't feel bad for Arizona. You
know, you should actually feel good for him that maybe he can go somewhere
where he can take one more giant leap and get himself where he can get
a job playing professional basketball. He kind of got to his ceiling here,
sure, Same for same for Boswell, same for Boswell and two of the
Euros that have decided to leave as well. It is what it is.
It's funny. Well back in the day lude had his, those days are
long gone. That's a that's a different, little different beast, a whole
different beasts because you weren't enticing guys to go different places for money, right
you know, Umor Bell can go somewhere and probably make more money than they're
willing to give him here because they've got a Crevus and and and vs are
ready to go. So they're saying, you know, it's it's it's professional.
It's like it's like baseball, it's like football. Well, we don't
need you anymore because we got this guy right here. Well, I've said
this before. I say I'm not a sports fan, but you've already corrected
me. I am a sports fan. I'm just not a sporting team fan
for this very reason. You can't get loyal to a team because they're not
loyal to you. I don't I couldn't tell you the Reds. I couldn't
tell you the Dodgers. I watch baseball. But you know what I'm saying,
And now it's happening in front of my eyes and has been for two
three years. Okay, you consider me a sports a team fan, right,
I'm a fan of Arizona. Yeah, and maybe not as much on
basketball as I am on the football side. Well, when I heard when
it came across that Umar Ballow was was jumping in the portal, my first
words, good for you, Good for him, Good for you, good
for him, were spent time together. Good for him. You know Colin
Boswell in the good for him. Maybe he'll go to a place for one,
you won't have a fan base that's crapping down his neck every day,
correct, c He can go somewhere from may be a different coach, a
fresh start, gives him a fresh start, and he learns different things and
becomes a different player and hopefully becomes a better player, and we see him
in the NBA down the road. And let's say this, maybe that he
grows up, and maybe that he grows up, you know, maybe a
coach that handles him differently to help him mature a little sure enough about you
know, because the way Tommy keeps bringing up his age to me, now,
I interpret that as being that Tommy kind of used it as a something
for him to lean on to maybe not do the work or the things that
he needed to do. Pure speculation. I have no no knowledge of that,
or I'm just saying how much Kyl and Bobswall's age was on Tommy's mind.
Maybe he was like, you know, he's just a baby, you
know, let him, let him, he is diaper, He's fine,
right right, Well, well here we go, because it's going to be
a new world soon. We were here last year. Remember last year about
this time, Tommy didn't know what he was doing. And I'm not here
to alibi Tommy. He doesn't know what he's doing. Everyone's jumping ship.
Who they gonna get the sky is falling? They did, Okay, they
did, They did pretty well. They found guys and they brought him in.
Now the question we're gonna have, We're gonna have uh zrus pasco on
here in about ten fifteen minutes. Uh, he's kind of chasing the things
down. We know what's going on. Uh. But Caleb coming back is
that the newest rumor well, do you see him on any draft board?
Well, that's my point, and we talked about this. I don't think
he's a pro, whether it's going to be next year, this year,
whatever. He's not that guy. Okay, But if he's not on the
draft board, where can he make some money? Yeah? Sure, sure
you can probably make more money here. See the thing, Jay, The
thing is about it, Chase. How much money do we do? We
know that's here? Well, and that's the thing. And that's the thing
with Umar Ballow right. That with Umar, they just said, look,
Umar, we love you, you've been you're done great, but we've got
it. You know, we've got to put that investment in one and whose
guys over here? So you know, we wish you luck. Yeah,
And and maybe they say that to Caleb, or maybe they say, you
know what, come back a year, we'll work on stuff. We'll pay
you and stick around for another year and you give us a shot. All
though what we kicked we you know, the guys that I was with we
kicked this up and down the hotel room last night where you know. Okay,
so if Caleb stays, then who leaves besides Boswell? Dude? But
are you good? You know, are you gonna if let's say Boswell doesn't
go either, because he isn't he's in the portal him. You know,
if all four of those guys stay, who know, there's somebody's got to
go. It's bossball and okay, let's story another guy out there? Who
is it on the boards? I don't think Pela who's Who's who's good but
not good enough? I don't think he's gonna be a guy either. And
he's a chance to come back to but he has a chance opportunity somewhere U
right, But Peala's from overseas. You know, Pala can go home and
make make his money. That's a little different. But he still could come
back because that name has been mentioned. I don't know you stayed, just
that's my point. And and if he comes and goes, kJ is the
perfect spot in this perfect spot because he's gonna be very good. He's the
NBA guy. I mean, I just don't know that Caleb is gonna want
to go to Turkey or someplace like that and play basketball. He might.
Yeah, I think it would be good for him to stay another year,
make some money and get better, and then maybe and then maybe maybe.
Are you gonna Are you gonna? Okay, you're a fan and you're both
the fans, Are you gonna deal with Caleb for another year? Say?
That's the thing. I don't know. I don't know the fans want to
do that because you know who he is. Just in my hotel room four
of us. Okay, and let's say I'm on the side. I'm the
I'm the neutral observer. I'm just listening to these guys. Two of them
loved them, and one of them doesn't. Yeah, I won't say who,
because sure to love him. One says he's got to get the hell
out of he's not he's not good. Yeah, yeah, you know what.
I think that's tame back, game back, by the way, Two
who think he should go, and one who says, why why would you
chase an All American out of player like he's not he doesn't play for the
team, right like this shot selection and exactly exactly exactly and to a point,
as good as Jayden is, he's kind of teeters on that direction too.
So how many balls do you have on the team? One? Yeah?
So, I you know, it's it was, It's interesting. All
this stuff is just it's fascinating to me how every year it's like people think
this isn't going to happen again. This is this is it, this is
the future, this is the existence we have this. You know, Danny
Hurley just again two times, two time national championship champions in a row,
and he knows he's got to go into the portal and get some guys because
he's gonna lose some guys, whether they he loses them to the draft,
or they just decide to go somewhere else because somebody's waving some money at him,
or they want to be closer to home, or any one of a
number of things. And look at how he built his team. This team
is there's like three guys that he went recruited from mid majors. It turned
out to be keys to this nationale. I didn't pay attention to this,
and maybe I'm too old for this. Who put Humpty Dumpty back together again?
All the kingsman or whatever? Guess what? That's what coaches have to
do. That's what they do. You have to put the teams back together,
finding the right pieces to hopefully they fit in. Because you're not just
talking basketball, you're talking personalities and the one the ones that do it best
are the ones that are gonna win. Sure, Like like okay, here's
here's you know, going to Purdue, right talking about Purdue. This is
it right, he got he had a generational player. Matt Painter, the
coach had a generational player, could win the national championship with it because he
didn't get the guys around him that produced. Guards were so outmatched last year.
I mean they had no shot. Well, the thing about it,
Jay, is they were outmatched for this one game. They were pretty good
all the way up into this game, like, no, no doubt,
Well they were. Let me then, let me say it this way.
They were good enough. Sure, Okay, they were good enough. And
they came up against the team that plays together that that yeah, that that
that Hurley went out and built with pieces. Okay, against this team that
that Matt Painter built a long you know, years ago, and now has
this and which one worked better? Yeah, it's funny. I saw the
Yukon maybe three times to in person. And they were so good and I
couldn't even tell you what about what makes them good? Right? Yeah,
they were so good in so many spots and just had all the pieces and
all the right pieces. And you there's one thing. It's like a good
marriage. If you there's chemistry in all levels, it's gonna be a good
marriage, not not fractured. You could tell that they like playing together.
They're very smooth. Yes, here's my here's my analysis of the Yukon or
why Yukon kicked the crap out of Purdue last night is because they had a
guy, Donovan Klinging was just good enough, right, just good enough.
I mean, yes, Edie got his points and his rebounds and stuff like
that, but he made it difficult. But he made it difficult. He
warrem them out, Okay, And then the rest of the rest of Yukon's
team was so much better than the rest of Purdue's team that they had no
shots. Sure, you know, I know the game was close for a
while early in the first half. Three minutes in, I said, they
got no shot. These guys, these guys cannot get shots off, and
they could when they were going to the end of the half and they were
one for two from three point. I'm like, not only are they not
scoring, sho're not even shooting. They can't even shoot. I went to
the locker room last night and I talked to Cleaning and he says, it
was good to see that they were not gonna catch us with Yeah, they're
not gonna catch us with twos. Now they're not shooting three and then and
they weren't shooting threes, Yeah, because they couldn't shoot three. And that's
that was the game plan. And that was the game plan. I mean,
I mean they said in the press conference that was the game. We
knew Zach Eaty was gonna be a load and he was gonna get his okay,
so we just had to stop the other game. So you saw Yukon,
I saw a post Arizona on a good day would have been able to
beat Yukon in a scale of in in ten games. How many games with
Arizona one maybe one? Maybe one maybe one and you had to have a
horrible shooting night, Yeah, you would have to. But it kind of
reminds me the kind of Arizona kind of reminds me of Purdue in this sense.
It's almost like they rely on their talent too much instead of like playing
together as a team. That's that's the that's the story of the next book.
Yeah, you ain't too much tell it's too many good individuals that don't
play together. They do at times and they look fantastic, but what are
those turn when they do though more often than not they did. Yeah,
it was so inconsistent and that lived to the inconsistencies that well, that was
another That was another discussion discussion that we had. This one was with my
son. I said, Adam I Arizona doesn't bet He says they can.
I said, well, okay, I'll say they can. But they were
not going to. They weren't going to, and they and and and you
know, as I said, I think you know, I'll add you best
at the best at best they went two out of ten. I'll give you
one. I'll give you one because there were so many. Any time anybody
can listen to anybody, there was there were methodical. Yes, they were
just beat you down. We've got to go, we do have to go.
Okay, we're gonna be back. Bruce Pasco, Well, uh,
I said Bruce Johnson on the board. I'm not even wondering about Bruce.
Your last name is now Johnson. Yeah, we'll have Bruce Pasco in.
We'll talk about all these things going on around the Arizona program. And you
know again, Bruce first is going to be where we are to say,
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and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. Hey, welcome back to my
the ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. We're
looking for Bruce. I don't think he's declared for the portal. You never
know anything, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you might have declared.
All this chasing down kids is dropping left and right. You know the
good thing about this today's age of journalism, And I don't know if it's
a good thing, but you know how we used to get on the phone
and call and call and call, trying to reach the kids and try to
reach the families. Are you transferring blah blah? Now they just say it
on Twitter and wee gay, you just take it off there. You know,
I was commenting because you know when my job, Steve, not one
of my jobs. My job at the final fours, I was just handing
out paint. I was hanging out box scores and quote sheets and stuff like
that, and it hit me that I could have gotten there at ten o'clock
last night to the arena and covered the game. I would have gotten all
the quotes, got the box scores, I would have gotten analytics. I
would have gotten everything. I would have needed to write a full game story
quotes in all about the game now. But you don't have the perspective.
Yeah, I mean, but what does it really mean? Right? Because
I didn't see it? You know, can I really paint the picture,
because that's what you try to do. But I could conceivably write a story
and nobody would ever know story. Nobody would ever know I wasn't there.
Well, I was there, and I kind of did that for the weekend.
Two. I watched the game. I didn't take any notes. I
didn't take any notes. Why because they take notes for you. Yeah,
and it's instantaneous. You get them right away. And I know what they
said, so I know where to go to gift those notes. And I
put my story together mentally, jot down, can't go with this, go
this, put this here, blah blah blah, go ask the questions that
dated answered in the lucker room. And well that's what I'm saying. You
know, I could have gotten there well after the game and written I think
a pretty decent story. Maybe a pretty decent story, but just what we
were talking about right now about you know, Yukon playing together and saying cohesive
and they're not being any you know, like cracks in their system, almost
like they have all this chemistry. You wouldn't be able to write that off
box for interview. Another thing you would never notice And I didn't notice it
until I saw it. Danny heard. He's a pain in the ass.
He's huge pain in the not with the media but with the refs, but
he's Yukon's pain and that wouldn't got no, but you can kind of sense.
And I never would have known this because you know his brother, right,
he's kind of a bit and he knows that. And I think that
Danny might be bigger one, but he knows it. Yeah, And he's
not he's not pretending not to be no, and and and he's not he's
not apologizing for it. But he's also saying I kind of know who I
am, right, Okay, not great, but it is who I am.
I have two titles in your pocket. It's even gonna be it's gonna
be a growing growing issue. But you know he's because he's stomping and he's
yelling, and he's uh, you know, he knows what he knows and
and tries to get away with it. Yeah, we were having fun just
watching him and his reactions to different things and different calls, and he was
just losing his mind. Yeah, but the thing is you have to have
that, You have to have some of that. And most of the big
time of coaches have egos, huge egos, and their poop doesn't stink,
but in reality it does because you can't you can't win. You can't get
to this point without being very good at what you do and without people.
Yeah, to some to some degree, well look, look you're not gonna
have cal of party because that's sort of kind of all color party. Yeah,
he wore as welcome in Kentucky. I saw some some some stories this
mor where you know, reporters can finally say stuff because he's gone without the
ramifications of being you know, being to cover him. Right, right,
So he and we've here you were where are you welcome? Because you think
you're you're the guy and you start being a pain in the neck to people
treating him badly and that's what he was doing. And he wasn't winning enough
to to be nice to people to get the leway, because you're just not
winning, so get the hell out. And that's that had to happen.
Yea, his margin for air left him years ago, and people just finally
got sick of it. Who would you rather have as a coach, Calipari
or Patina? And those are two choices later hopefully this is Bruce. Hey,
hey, Bruce, Sorry, No, you put in your name in
the transfer portal. Yeah, I mean, I gotta get it. I
gotta look out for n I own money. I'll throw you. I gotta,
I gotta maybe a C note I can throw your wig that hell yeah,
no, I mean yeah, I mean it's just crazy the stuff I'm
hearing. Oh yeah, really okay, Well you heard it. I mean
you know, but it's yeah, I mean like you just can't like nobody
knows for sure. It's just talk, but like you know, like a
su is losing, guys that think they're going to get five hundred thousand from
going somewhere else. It's yeah. So you heard another one about three hours
ago. Boswell, yeah, not a shock, not a shock. No,
I well, I mean, I know, I figure either him or
Bradley would be I couldn't imagical day even though they seem to like each other.
But you know, it just just the plane thing likely, right,
playing time is an issue. And if I mean, do you do you
have any sense? I mean, is this a move that maybe it was
kind of Tommy just letting these guys know, Okay, these are your roles
and Jade and Bradley likes his and kind of Boswell doesn't. Yeah, I
don't know. I mean, I don't know. I think they're Yeah,
I just I think they It kind of seems like both Thismbllo kind of feel
like their mutual you know, like but maybe they're better off going somewhere else.
And at the same time, it let Lloyd, you know, move
up guys there, like into bigger roles, particularly Bradley and Crevis Righteradly was
rated there the most efficient player all year, and you guys saw the way
he's played in the post season was he's probably be their best player last you
know, four or five games, right, and given the situation with with
uh with Boswell, you know, being young, that excuse blah blah blah.
The Vegas incident, just a lot of the little things that we hear
about. Uh, it was probably best for him to kind of declare or
to to put his name in the portal. Yeah, I mean, it
can't hurt. You always see what's out there, and and you know,
I mean I didn't. I don't know. He hasn't said for sure himself,
but if he's thinking of coming back at all, or if it's totally
ruled it out or whatever, but yeah, I mean he's got nothing,
you know, nothing to lose. That way, you can probably find a
better fit. And then and then with all these things in the portal,
there's always nil implications behind it. You just never know what's really going on
because it's all it's all behind the scenes and and uh, you know,
no contracts, no public records, nobody knows what's really happening. I mean,
this is this is total unmitigated free agency, right right, I mean
it's just free agency with zero rules, zero deadlines, zero. I mean,
a guy can just say I'm I'm uh you know, I'm done here.
I'm going over here because they have some money for me over here.
Say that, right, and the school can decide, well, okay,
that's more money than we're we're ever going to give you, So go ahead
and go, you know, I mean, it's it's it's just that now
it's professional professional sports. Yeah, I mean, it's it's right, but
you know, minor league professional sports. In fact, if it's true,
what you know what it sounds like some of the high major starters are now
earning more money than they would playing in the G League, and in some
cases maybe even more than the two way contract, which is five hundred thousand.
I mean, it's a lot. You just wonder if it's sustainable,
if the people who are paying this are going to keep paying it or whatever.
But we're still in the I think this will be the entering the you
know, the third that will be entering the fourth year of it next next
fall or whatever. And it still kind of an evolving thing, but it
is. It is crazancy. And the other thing is, you know,
I think that that court ruling this year that basically said, you know,
even second time transferings are okay. Now the NBA is kind of codifying it
by saying, yeah, it's okay, I guess or there's some push for
that. So it's like so basically everybody can switch their team every year,
and it's just gonna be a matter of our guys keeping happy where they're at
and and are their coaches happy? Do the coaches want them to stick around?
Because a lot of times I think if the coaches wanted to stick around,
they'll if they have a collective that works for them, you know,
they'll kind of tip their hat to the collective say hey, can you take
care of this guy and need them or whatever? Like, well, a
lot of things going on. Well one of the things, and I've stuck
to a couple of these people, Now that's a great sample size. They're
tired. They're they're they're booster tired. There's a word for it. Uh,
they're tired of reaching in the buckets. Yeah, fatigue, Yeah,
because you know how many times can you have to go to the well every
every year? Every year? Well? And you you and you wonder,
right, and if you're what is your mindset? Do you want to give
your money? If you have money to donate and you want to support that
team, are you going to give it to the players through a collective or
are you going to get or unless you have a company, you want them
to sponsor them, to sponsor you that that can work or do you want
to give it to the school to help their you know, deficit or building
whatever. And you know that was actually, you know, when Alabama was
there, I saw Greg har Burn in the hallway and asked him how to
go in at Alabama and he, you know, of course, is Alabama.
They're they're in pretty good shape. But he seemed confident that they you
know that that their donors are doing both basically, but at some point you
got to think it's going to affect the schools because they can't possibly be getting
one hundred percent of what people are going to give towards the team, and
because some of those dollars are being diverted to an il. And then the
other thing is, you know, like you said, maybe that's fatigue.
Maybe a guy who's given ten grand a year to the collective and the team
keys flaming out in the first weekend of the tournament might say, hey,
what am I getting for my mind? Or whatever? That could happen,
but we probably haven't got to that point yet, right, no question.
So okay, so let's I mean, this is this is just this is
what the world we're living in. But the word ross living too. Now
is the roster turnover that's going to happen every single year, no matter how
good you are. You know what happened to Yukon last year and then they
built another national champion. It happens to everybody. How do we get people
to stop losing their minds over all this because they are again yeah, I
know, you know. And it's like I think, if if the team
you're following is competitive and nile, which I believe Arizona is, I don't
think you have much to worry about because a lot of times these transfers are
either mutual decisions or it's decisions where the coaches and I'm not necessarily saying Arizona,
but they are decisions that the coaches are kind of like okay with in
some cas In a lot of cases though, of course, you know,
players looking to get more money, and I think again that's why I think
a SU has had a little you know, they've had some problems with that.
And even Bobby Hurley in the pac Tel tournament said something like I got
to get on the phone and get people who are who can help us to
have the resources, basically saying I need money and you know, because guys
are leaving. I mean at ASU, guy like they went to the tournament
last year. Everybody loves playing for Hurley from every time I heard, and
they're still like lost nine guys. So what does that tell you? You
know, they're not you know, and they're you know, So if you
have a guy that's playing, he likes his coach and they go to the
postseason and he still leaves, then he's definitely you know, checking out free
agency and seeing what's out there. There's you know, that's it's almost without
questioning what's going on in a lot of those cases. But you know,
if you're competitive, if you if you have resources in nil, which a
lot of these major schools do, you can you can keep who you want
and you can go get guys that you need and then it's just a matter
of getting the pieces to fit. And I think Dan Hurley at Yukon has
done, you know why all accounts a masterful job of that, you know,
not only getting and getting the guys that really worked in his system,
and uh, you know, they were just you know, tremendous Considering what
they lost to be as good as they were this year is really quite amazing.
So you know, when I talked to you this morning or text you
this morning, you joked. I think it was a joke. But then
I've continued to hear that, Okay, Caleb coming back. I mean I've
heard it, not from you. I don't know. I mean, I
think he's still thinking. I mean, he's got to decide does he want
to come back, does he want to transfer, does he want to test
for the draft, or do all do maybe a little bit of everything,
which is what a lot of guys do. Now I think, you know,
he's a guy who could do that. You know, the early indications
are he's not projected as a draft picks this year, so he may and
he may very well want to use that COVID year, either here or somewhere
else to to maybe you know, continue to become a more efficient player,
get you know, kind of a race. The way he finished last year,
he had a great year. He just finished on a rough note.
And you know, maybe maybe next year he goes all the way through and
can get himself in the draft and you know, make some Ethan Nile money
in the process. And so he's probably figuring out what's going on. And
I'm sure you know, Tommy Lloyd's probably talking to him about Okay, if
he came back, what it would be like. And then I think both
sides have to figure out what they think is best for him, and that
that seems to be taking a while, Whereas I think the rash that we've
seen the four guys leaving three scholarships guys in the last two days is an
indication that those meetings are you know, wrap it up going on? Right,
They've had those discussions and it's like, okay, let's go because because
once you decide on both sides, the player and the coach, what what's
going to happen? You know, they want to move fast because the player,
the transfer portal has been spending for what three or four weeks now,
and it's time to get going. Okay, let's assume, because we like
to do that and we all know what that does. Let's assume Caleb,
besides this stay, what what does this? What does this roster look like?
With the guys he the guys that are coming in be the guys who
are already here. Yeah, you know, where does it? Where does
he fit? Well? I mean, you know, I assume that Tell
Larson's leaving he's not said, and he's the kind of guy who might not
even make an announcement that might just come out when those NBA list comes out
or whatever. But assuming he leaves, you know, they could they could
start you know, Love and kJ Lewis on the wings, and that would
keep those guys happy. I think that the question to me would be the
jokesan Sam and the new recruit they have, who is apparently you know,
pretty pretty aggressive score. It seems like he can help right away. Is
he going to be happy coming into a situation where he's not going to start
right away, you know, And and he wouldn't if if Love came back,
you know, but he hasn't signed a letter intent, so he's a
free agent too, as they say, so who knows, But that that's
kind of my question. But I think they could, you know, maybe
start all three of those guys and Lewis being you know, the defensive guy
he is, but that that would be really it would be really interesting.
And I think up front they've got you know, Crevius is obviously could be
a starter now and then Emmanuel Stephan the freshman may have coming in, the
big guy. He's got a real upside. I don't know exactly how much
he can insure, but he's he's really athletic and got some upside. It'd
be interesting to see if he can help them right way too. So let
me ask you. You were at the game last night. They spent the
weekend up in Phoenix as well. We're all working diligently. You've covered some
pretty good teams Vegas, and here Jay and I want to ask you too,
where does this fit? This team from last night fit in the teams
you've seen personally covered? Vegas had some good ones, all the teams that
this last year. Yeah, no, no, I'm talking Yukon. Yukon,
Yeah, because you know he's covered some good teams. You know.
Two thousand and one to me is the best team you're ever in Arizona.
It had all the pieces, right, he got got beat by Duke,
but they were hurt too. Arizona's hurt, Gilbert and all these guys.
Yeah, and ninety seven wasn't his team in ninety eight might have been the
seam You know what I'm saying, Where would you put this team comparing Yukon
to Arizona teams? Yeah, buddy, better than all better than all of
them, than all but two thousand and one was very very good. I
thought they were very very very good. Yeah. I thought two thousand and
three arguably was as good or not or man, I mean, maybe better
in a way because they had Welton Anderson and Jason Gardner and then Andrea Goudala
coming off the bench. I would have thought whatever, and than Adamson was
really good to Yeah, I mean I was kind of. They're very similar
in completeness and talent one eight ninety eight not ninety seven, right, and
then and then three and arguably five team was pretty good too. And then
you know, you guys go back further than I do here. I mean,
you know when it sounds like you know, then you've got you know,
a couple other earlier teams in ninety four or eighty eight, eighty nine,
whatever, you know, all really good. Two. I don't know,
I don't know where you don't see the team. I just I guess
I just saw the domination of Yukon by and by that they were good.
By that, I mean that nobody early on in every game that I saw
them in the tournament, five minutes into the game, you knew the other
team had no shot, including even though Purdue hung with them a little bit,
Alabama hung with them a little bit, they never had a shot.
Well. Bruce was in the question room when I asked on him this,
I said, having seen you lost couple of games, you guys were amazing.
How did you guys lose? Who did? Yeah? That's great?
What do you say? I think? You know? The funniest thing is
uh, I mean to me anyway, just I think they actually had their
toughest game in the second round against Northwestern. Of all teams, they just
didn't but they just didn't play well in that game. And then I imagine
that Dan Hurley went, you know, nuts after that game, and they
didn't do it again, and like Jay said, they're just they're so complete,
you know. I mean they do have some you know, NBA talent
on that team, but just the whole system and the defense they threw it.
I mean, I kept looking at the step of I'm like, why
isn't produced shooting threes? They couldn't. I mean, like they didn't try,
and then when they did they were they were mostly way off. It
was just and then and then you you couple that with the efficiency they played
with offensively and you know, produced trying to keep it slower and then pace
and then you know, once the Tristan Newton had threw up the two alley
oaks in a row and they got them, it was just like, okay,
that's going to break the teams back, and it did. Ye rude,
and you couldn't hand it when they when Yukon added that kind of explosive
offense to what they were already doing, it was it was too much.
And that's that's not something me see. I mean, almost every college basketball
team is flawed in one way or another, and it's hard to really see
any with Yukon. Yeah, well for the first eight eight games of this
one, we didn't think there was a flaw until until we saw there was
a lot of flaws. Well you know, and you know, see if
you were there and Duke, I mean, you know, it's kind of
you know, I remember remember after that game, Tommy Lloyd said, you
don't win trophies in November. What you do if you win those little mts
or whatever, but you generally don't, and he was right. And then
guess what they get to March and they're not winning trophies. You know,
because they're not winning like they did in November. So I always thinking,
I think, you know, honestly, the probably the toughest thing about this
team is they won too much early and they raised expectations through the roof,
and then they ultimately finished pretty much exactly where they were picked. I mean,
in fact, the ap pole came out today, they didn't. Postseason
one, they ranked eleventh, and in the preseason they were twelve, you
know, and and I mean they just they did, they did what they
were supposed to do. It's just because they came out of the gate so
fast. Yeah, And that's a credit to you know, the coaching staff
preparation for them. And it may also have helped that they took their Middle
East trip to get everybody bonded and playing together a little bit early. So
they came out super strong, but they ultimately were the same team that they
were expected to be. Suffered the same problems way back in the day.
November December fantastic, and then March was always a who knows what it was?
Okay, go back to if if if the national championship was November thirtieth,
Arizona, you know, might have seven or eight of them. Yeah,
very good, very good, Bruce, like you go back to bed
or take the ticket taking that thank you, thank thank you. He just
break down some of that one on the other side. All right, let's
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My on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. M Steve, He's
Jay and the least with us today. You're counting down? Has started?
Right? Three weeks one month from today, one month from today to the
week, like a big shindig going to be happening and all that. Yeah,
I have seven people from my family coming. Where's the party? My
apartment? But then we're drinking stuff around Tucson. But yeah, there's two
graduations in the university. Man, would you do it all over again?
Yeah? I would, he would do. But I'm ready. I'm ready
to get out there world. Okay, good. I was gonna ask you
something. Oh our bracket, our bracket? Okay, our show bracket?
Who you want it? I want it? Did everybody else just quit?
No? You know who came in second? Our friends at Showtime Cards?
Oh did he George? How many did he put it? Just once?
We got to take him to dinner? Okay, cool, so that'd be
good. He's good. So for those of you who did who were in
the bracket? Uh uh George Mott is the owner of Showtime Cards, great
sponsor to the show. Uh he finished second to me. Who that's just
stupid, right, that's just really it's just really dumb. But uh,
it was fun to just kind of keep an eye on it just a bracket
out there. So we promised that whoever finished first among the non show people,
basically me and Steve, would we would take him to dinner. So
we're George, if you're listening, We're gonna take you to dinner somewhere.
Steve and I have a preference for MENI detail, but that can take a
long time. So if you have another place you'd like to go, Not
Flemings, right, not Flemings, not Sullivan's. Uh, something like you
know Aminidito, you know, nice decent Mexican restaurant, maybe go I don't
know, uh, you know, will take you the Longhorned Steakhouse or something
like that. Okay, we'll set a date, so we'll we'll reach out
and get that going. But yeah, I pulled that off. So I
want to know something funny about my bracket. So in one of my pools,
I was in fifth, but every single person above me picked Yukon,
so had the right winner. Some I'm the highest person who didn't have you.
Well, this is actually don't know how I got it then, because
Kentucky in this one, wow, and this one had Kentucky. So I
don't know how that. No A lot. There's like twenty Okay, okay,
we were talking about what I was gonna ask you. The Color Party.
We'll forget that for a while because of their old and guys. But
I would take Patina over Color Party. Just about unpacking with Brus and we
were talking about here, chemistry. There's a lot to you know the guy.
I think that would have helped him a lot. Maybe not Moroscus.
Of all the guys that decided to leave, we didn't really get to see
him. We just don't know Steve. I don't know that we know enough
about him. He could shoot, he could shoot that, right, but
don't you think don't you think that with him being as good a shooter as
he was, that he was really bad and all the other stuff. Maybe
just bad at defending. And where would you play him? Because he would
the party who placed Palet right, and Pelly did so many things, yeah
right, pell Pelly was the I mean they stupid, stupid pun but a
Swiss army knife, right, I call him Sweden if the Sweden, yeah
exactly, But he was a Swiss army knife for them, you know.
And and most games he did all those things, but the games where he
didn't do all those things were the games that they struggle? Sure? Sure,
so let me let me ask both of you. Oh well, I
don't know if I can ask because you're a student and it's hard to put.
Okay, you have a you have one hundred percent of your life,
one hundred percent of your life. You have your eat, eating, drinking,
your sleeping, and your family. Where does basketball and football take a
bite of that life? That's a big bite in my life. So football,
yeah, football, you want a percentage? I want a percentage twenty
Holy moly. And basketball fifteen? Maybe another fifteen. That's so. So
sixty five percent of your life is the rest of your life? No,
because then there's baseball and then there's golf. I'm not just talking sports.
I'm talking life for that's what I'm saying. No, I'm we're gap fit
into this. She gets like four percent right in there somewhere. Oh my
god, that's not true. I promise you know. It's funny, it's
a it's a it's an interesting thing to think about. But well, here's
the thing I asked for a reason. Well, here's the thing in all
of those things, all right, my family is in the middle of all
of that. Okay, the football stuff, you know, share my whole
family basketball, it's my whole family with golf, my son, I golf.
I only golf with my son. I can't remember the last time I
golfed without him. Well, I might go play nine holes at El Dorado
at four o'clock in the afternoon on a Sunday, But even then I'll call
him and he can come me. So like the golf, whatever piece of
golf it is, he's in at one hundred percent. So my family's in
there and all of that. So when you're talking about just my family that
doesn't involve sports, I'm gonna say, Okay, let me say, if
there's one hundred percent of my family time, how much of that family time
doesn't involve sports. I would say less than fifty percent. Mm hmm.
The reason I ask is because when I get to the Internet and the Twitter,
just how people are so their life exactly, I said, don't you
have other things to do concern yourself with? No, I don't. But
it's not my life though, because life from the stand point the path that
my head doesn't explode very often. That's really beautiful though, what you said,
honestly, because That's what's why we watch sports, right. It brings
people together. It gives a sense of community. Yeah, all about.
Like I watched sports with my family too all the time. That's why I
like sports because of my family. Okay, Like I got home today and
I had gotten two of those Final Four panos, and you know, I
kept one for myself, but I gave them to my daughter Rachel. I
gave it to her because she's so involved in the sports with me. Well,
soon I come home from the show and she's in the living room and
she'll be watching an NBA game, and I'm like, that just warms my
heart so much because she didn't say, what did you just do? What
do you two fools talk about? So? Well, sometimes she goes,
I hope you didn't talk about me. So I gave her the pick because
I felt like it would be a big deal to her. Yeah, you
know, I'm surprised she wasn't helping. She would have accept when she had
decided that either she was going to the Final four if Arizona was in it
as a spectator, or she was going to California with my other daughter and
they were gonna go see a friend. Yeah, after the fact when I
told her, you know, if you'd have stuck around, you could have
worked the Final four, and she was kind of like, oh yeah,
yeah, okay. Well the reason I ask is people, it's like the
whole world or it seems surely seems you're going to open up your computer or
your phone and you're gonna start hacking away at being negative or whatever. How
important is that that's the whole See, that's not that's not so much about
being a sports fan. That's about being a neurotic person that could because Steve
that that's a person that if they weren't doing it about sports, they're doing
that about something else, right. That more, that's a neurosis of a
of a different level where just happens to be that sports is where they they
spit that out, and the Internet gives them a medium to do that.
Yeah, and no one really cares, and no one cares what you have
to say? My brother Rick, right, you know, he's a good
guy. I mean, he's like, he's a good person, but he's
he's either losing his mind over sports or losing his mind over politics. There's
nothing else in his life. Give us a call, somebody, somebody's texting
right now said Jay just threw you under the bus. Nobody. You've thrown
him under the bus so many times, and he's gonna call me and say
why. Just amazing to me. Because people aren't happy. People aren't happy
over sports doesn't really mean it's really supposed to be something that brings people together.
Frustrate the people see a lot of times see it's it's pent up anger
and frustration over their own life. I know I want what I will say,
we want to have a less than a minute. So so now that
we have this debate with blue Bloods and blah blah blah, you can kind
of you you're on my side now kind of right. I hate calling it
your side, but yes, I'm more in agreement with Okay, I'm fine
with that. Didn't last night's U Can't team and their program say there's a
difference. There is. There's a difference, and if people want to compare,
they can't. Yeah, it's obvious Arizona's not in that league. They're
not. They're not. Now. They can go off and win a couple
of national championships and maybe get in there, but they're not. Even if
they win one next year, they're not and it's different, right, it's
got a different feed, right. But there aren't many there, I mean,
there aren't many. I mean, you know what like what you know,
Hurley said last night, we've been ruling college basketball for the which was
a classical half, which was classic. I put that in the story.
This was a classical answer. All right, we got to hit the road.
We're gonna come back, uh and A Lisa gonna have breaking news and
there's lots of it, so you're sure to come back, and then we'll
take your calls.