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Yet. Hey, good afternoon, everybody.

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Welcome to Eye on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm

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Steve Rivera, He's Jagan zawis got
our girl and at least in with us

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today. Glad to see you guys. Haven't entered the portal and I'm here

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today. I thought about it,
but I said, yeah, you got

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so I need something to do.
You know, no one will want me.

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If I'd have thought of it,
I might have jumped in, Steve,

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I'd have thought of it. I
might. At about one o'clock this

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morning, when I was getting home, knowing I had to be up at

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five point thirty, I thought about
jumping in the foot. I'll tell you

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about five nights. Yeah, just
five nine. Hispanic guard. I'm not

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too from the outside, not teacher, but he needs I have about a

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twenty five golf handicap. Well,
I think you're better off here than you

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are. I don't. I've said
it at six foot two. Hey,

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welcome back. He was of the
crazy four days in Phoenix or Glendale at

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the final four of so much to
unpacked, but let's go for the important

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parts. I know you might have
this for breaking news, but everyone's freaking

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out in Tucsons. They don't have
a team anymore, you know, batten

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down their hatches, get used to
it. It's the world. This happened

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to Dan Hurley last year. And
what did he do? Won another national

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championship without any doubt, like no
doubt who the best team in the country

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was all year long, kick the
crap out of everybody in the in the

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NCAA tournament. Guess what what do
you had? Like six new guys?

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He lost four starters from last year. Yeah, it's funny because you were

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in the press conference and he talks
about, oh, now on a point

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where I'm gonna dread it because I
know you gotta go to the portal.

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I thought that was I thought that
was hilarious. He said, I dread

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this part of it, which is
having to get you know, go jump

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in the portal and get players and
fill out your team again. And and

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the fact that you know it's happening
everywhere hell, you could be Kentucky and

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looking for a freaking coach right now, right, No, Yeah, this

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is just the way of the world. It's funny. And I don't know

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why I do this and my job
I don't even have a job, but

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my job of looking at the stuff
to talk about and the Facebook and just

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really irks me now and I don't
know why. Maybe I'm getting old and

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grumpy, like you guys describe me. I'm following that prophecy where people you

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know, don't they don't know what's
going on, and they just put stuff

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on the Internet and you're thinking,
that's not what it is, and I

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don't have time to explain it.
They don't think that, they don't think

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anything through then they as we said
that, you know everything you know,

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Arizona loses. The player in the
world is ending. Why would he leave

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Arizona. Well, maybe because there's
a better place for him to be correct

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natural fit Umar Ballo right, perfect
example. His time is up here.

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Sure it ran its course. He's
got a year left and go, you

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know, get himself in a spot. You know, Tommy's got guys in

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the background ready to go. You
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He shouldn't. You know, we
shouldn't feel bad for Arizona. You

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know, you should actually feel good
for him that maybe he can go somewhere

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where he can take one more giant
leap and get himself where he can get

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a job playing professional basketball. He
kind of got to his ceiling here,

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sure, Same for same for Boswell, same for Boswell and two of the

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Euros that have decided to leave as
well. It is what it is.

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It's funny. Well back in the
day lude had his, those days are

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long gone. That's a that's a
different, little different beast, a whole

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different beasts because you weren't enticing guys
to go different places for money, right

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you know, Umor Bell can go
somewhere and probably make more money than they're

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willing to give him here because they've
got a Crevus and and and vs are

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ready to go. So they're saying, you know, it's it's it's professional.

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It's like it's like baseball, it's
like football. Well, we don't

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need you anymore because we got this
guy right here. Well, I've said

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this before. I say I'm not
a sports fan, but you've already corrected

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me. I am a sports fan. I'm just not a sporting team fan

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for this very reason. You can't
get loyal to a team because they're not

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loyal to you. I don't I
couldn't tell you the Reds. I couldn't

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tell you the Dodgers. I watch
baseball. But you know what I'm saying,

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And now it's happening in front of
my eyes and has been for two

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three years. Okay, you consider
me a sports a team fan, right,

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I'm a fan of Arizona. Yeah, and maybe not as much on

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basketball as I am on the football
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it came across that Umar Ballow was
was jumping in the portal, my first

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words, good for you, Good
for him, Good for you, good

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for him, were spent time together. Good for him. You know Colin

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Boswell in the good for him.
Maybe he'll go to a place for one,

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you won't have a fan base that's
crapping down his neck every day,

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correct, c He can go somewhere
from may be a different coach, a

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fresh start, gives him a fresh
start, and he learns different things and

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becomes a different player and hopefully becomes
a better player, and we see him

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in the NBA down the road.
And let's say this, maybe that he

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grows up, and maybe that he
grows up, you know, maybe a

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coach that handles him differently to help
him mature a little sure enough about you

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know, because the way Tommy keeps
bringing up his age to me, now,

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I interpret that as being that Tommy
kind of used it as a something

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for him to lean on to maybe
not do the work or the things that

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he needed to do. Pure speculation. I have no no knowledge of that,

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or I'm just saying how much Kyl
and Bobswall's age was on Tommy's mind.

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Maybe he was like, you know, he's just a baby, you

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know, let him, let him, he is diaper, He's fine,

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right right, Well, well here
we go, because it's going to be

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a new world soon. We were
here last year. Remember last year about

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this time, Tommy didn't know what
he was doing. And I'm not here

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to alibi Tommy. He doesn't know
what he's doing. Everyone's jumping ship.

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Who they gonna get the sky is
falling? They did, Okay, they

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did, They did pretty well.
They found guys and they brought him in.

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Now the question we're gonna have,
We're gonna have uh zrus pasco on

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here in about ten fifteen minutes.
Uh, he's kind of chasing the things

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down. We know what's going on. Uh. But Caleb coming back is

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that the newest rumor well, do
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Well, that's my point, and
we talked about this. I don't think

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he's a pro, whether it's going
to be next year, this year,

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whatever. He's not that guy.
Okay, But if he's not on the

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draft board, where can he make
some money? Yeah? Sure, sure

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you can probably make more money here. See the thing, Jay, The

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thing is about it, Chase.
How much money do we do? We

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know that's here? Well, and
that's the thing. And that's the thing

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with Umar Ballow right. That with
Umar, they just said, look,

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Umar, we love you, you've
been you're done great, but we've got

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it. You know, we've got
to put that investment in one and whose

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guys over here? So you know, we wish you luck. Yeah,

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And and maybe they say that to
Caleb, or maybe they say, you

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know what, come back a year, we'll work on stuff. We'll pay

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you and stick around for another year
and you give us a shot. All

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though what we kicked we you know, the guys that I was with we

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kicked this up and down the hotel
room last night where you know. Okay,

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so if Caleb stays, then who
leaves besides Boswell? Dude? But

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are you good? You know,
are you gonna if let's say Boswell doesn't

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go either, because he isn't he's
in the portal him. You know,

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if all four of those guys stay, who know, there's somebody's got to

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go. It's bossball and okay,
let's story another guy out there? Who

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is it on the boards? I
don't think Pela who's Who's who's good but

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not good enough? I don't think
he's gonna be a guy either. And

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he's a chance to come back to
but he has a chance opportunity somewhere U

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right, But Peala's from overseas.
You know, Pala can go home and

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make make his money. That's a
little different. But he still could come

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back because that name has been mentioned. I don't know you stayed, just

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that's my point. And and if
he comes and goes, kJ is the

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perfect spot in this perfect spot because
he's gonna be very good. He's the

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NBA guy. I mean, I
just don't know that Caleb is gonna want

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to go to Turkey or someplace like
that and play basketball. He might.

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Yeah, I think it would be
good for him to stay another year,

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make some money and get better,
and then maybe and then maybe maybe.

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Are you gonna Are you gonna?
Okay, you're a fan and you're both

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the fans, Are you gonna deal
with Caleb for another year? Say?

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That's the thing. I don't know. I don't know the fans want to

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do that because you know who he
is. Just in my hotel room four

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of us. Okay, and let's
say I'm on the side. I'm the

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I'm the neutral observer. I'm just
listening to these guys. Two of them

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loved them, and one of them
doesn't. Yeah, I won't say who,

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because sure to love him. One
says he's got to get the hell

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out of he's not he's not good. Yeah, yeah, you know what.

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I think that's tame back, game
back, by the way, Two

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who think he should go, and
one who says, why why would you

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chase an All American out of player
like he's not he doesn't play for the

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team, right like this shot selection
and exactly exactly exactly and to a point,

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as good as Jayden is, he's
kind of teeters on that direction too.

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So how many balls do you have
on the team? One? Yeah?

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So, I you know, it's
it was, It's interesting. All

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this stuff is just it's fascinating to
me how every year it's like people think

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this isn't going to happen again.
This is this is it, this is

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the future, this is the existence
we have this. You know, Danny

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Hurley just again two times, two
time national championship champions in a row,

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and he knows he's got to go
into the portal and get some guys because

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he's gonna lose some guys, whether
they he loses them to the draft,

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or they just decide to go somewhere
else because somebody's waving some money at him,

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or they want to be closer to
home, or any one of a

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number of things. And look at
how he built his team. This team

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is there's like three guys that he
went recruited from mid majors. It turned

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out to be keys to this nationale. I didn't pay attention to this,

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and maybe I'm too old for this. Who put Humpty Dumpty back together again?

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All the kingsman or whatever? Guess
what? That's what coaches have to

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do. That's what they do.
You have to put the teams back together,

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finding the right pieces to hopefully they
fit in. Because you're not just

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talking basketball, you're talking personalities and
the one the ones that do it best

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are the ones that are gonna win. Sure, Like like okay, here's

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here's you know, going to Purdue, right talking about Purdue. This is

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it right, he got he had
a generational player. Matt Painter, the

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coach had a generational player, could
win the national championship with it because he

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didn't get the guys around him that
produced. Guards were so outmatched last year.

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I mean they had no shot.
Well, the thing about it,

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Jay, is they were outmatched for
this one game. They were pretty good

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all the way up into this game, like, no, no doubt,

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Well they were. Let me then, let me say it this way.

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They were good enough. Sure,
Okay, they were good enough. And

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they came up against the team that
plays together that that yeah, that that

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that Hurley went out and built with
pieces. Okay, against this team that

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that Matt Painter built a long you
know, years ago, and now has

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this and which one worked better?
Yeah, it's funny. I saw the

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Yukon maybe three times to in person. And they were so good and I

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couldn't even tell you what about what
makes them good? Right? Yeah,

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they were so good in so many
spots and just had all the pieces and

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all the right pieces. And you
there's one thing. It's like a good

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marriage. If you there's chemistry in
all levels, it's gonna be a good

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marriage, not not fractured. You
could tell that they like playing together.

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They're very smooth. Yes, here's
my here's my analysis of the Yukon or

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why Yukon kicked the crap out of
Purdue last night is because they had a

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guy, Donovan Klinging was just good
enough, right, just good enough.

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I mean, yes, Edie got
his points and his rebounds and stuff like

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that, but he made it difficult. But he made it difficult. He

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warrem them out, Okay, And
then the rest of the rest of Yukon's

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team was so much better than the
rest of Purdue's team that they had no

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shots. Sure, you know,
I know the game was close for a

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while early in the first half.
Three minutes in, I said, they

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got no shot. These guys,
these guys cannot get shots off, and

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they could when they were going to
the end of the half and they were

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one for two from three point.
I'm like, not only are they not

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scoring, sho're not even shooting.
They can't even shoot. I went to

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the locker room last night and I
talked to Cleaning and he says, it

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was good to see that they were
not gonna catch us with Yeah, they're

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not gonna catch us with twos.
Now they're not shooting three and then and

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they weren't shooting threes, Yeah,
because they couldn't shoot three. And that's

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that was the game plan. And
that was the game plan. I mean,

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I mean they said in the press
conference that was the game. We

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knew Zach Eaty was gonna be a
load and he was gonna get his okay,

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so we just had to stop the
other game. So you saw Yukon,

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I saw a post Arizona on a
good day would have been able to

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beat Yukon in a scale of in
in ten games. How many games with

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Arizona one maybe one? Maybe one
maybe one and you had to have a

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horrible shooting night, Yeah, you
would have to. But it kind of

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reminds me the kind of Arizona kind
of reminds me of Purdue in this sense.

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It's almost like they rely on their
talent too much instead of like playing

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together as a team. That's that's
the that's the story of the next book.

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Yeah, you ain't too much tell
it's too many good individuals that don't

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play together. They do at times
and they look fantastic, but what are

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those turn when they do though more
often than not they did. Yeah,

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it was so inconsistent and that lived
to the inconsistencies that well, that was

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another That was another discussion discussion that
we had. This one was with my

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son. I said, Adam I
Arizona doesn't bet He says they can.

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I said, well, okay,
I'll say they can. But they were

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not going to. They weren't going
to, and they and and and you

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know, as I said, I
think you know, I'll add you best

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at the best at best they went
two out of ten. I'll give you

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one. I'll give you one because
there were so many. Any time anybody

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can listen to anybody, there was
there were methodical. Yes, they were

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just beat you down. We've got
to go, we do have to go.

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Okay, we're gonna be back.
Bruce Pasco, Well, uh,

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I said Bruce Johnson on the board. I'm not even wondering about Bruce.

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Your last name is now Johnson.
Yeah, we'll have Bruce Pasco in.

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We'll talk about all these things going
on around the Arizona program. And you

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know again, Bruce first is going
to be where we are to say,

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this is how it is. Get
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and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteenth
fifty. Hey, welcome back to my

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the ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. We're

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looking for Bruce. I don't think
he's declared for the portal. You never

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know anything, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, you might have declared.

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All this chasing down kids is dropping
left and right. You know the

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good thing about this today's age of
journalism, And I don't know if it's

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a good thing, but you know
how we used to get on the phone

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and call and call and call,
trying to reach the kids and try to

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reach the families. Are you transferring
blah blah? Now they just say it

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on Twitter and wee gay, you
just take it off there. You know,

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I was commenting because you know when
my job, Steve, not one

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of my jobs. My job at
the final fours, I was just handing

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out paint. I was hanging out
box scores and quote sheets and stuff like

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that, and it hit me that
I could have gotten there at ten o'clock

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last night to the arena and covered
the game. I would have gotten all

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the quotes, got the box scores, I would have gotten analytics. I

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would have gotten everything. I would
have needed to write a full game story

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quotes in all about the game now. But you don't have the perspective.

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Yeah, I mean, but what
does it really mean? Right? Because

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I didn't see it? You know, can I really paint the picture,

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because that's what you try to do. But I could conceivably write a story

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and nobody would ever know story.
Nobody would ever know I wasn't there.

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Well, I was there, and
I kind of did that for the weekend.

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Two. I watched the game.
I didn't take any notes. I

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didn't take any notes. Why because
they take notes for you. Yeah,

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and it's instantaneous. You get them
right away. And I know what they

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said, so I know where to
go to gift those notes. And I

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put my story together mentally, jot
down, can't go with this, go

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this, put this here, blah
blah blah, go ask the questions that

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dated answered in the lucker room.
And well that's what I'm saying. You

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know, I could have gotten there
well after the game and written I think

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a pretty decent story. Maybe a
pretty decent story, but just what we

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were talking about right now about you
know, Yukon playing together and saying cohesive

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and they're not being any you know, like cracks in their system, almost

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like they have all this chemistry.
You wouldn't be able to write that off

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box for interview. Another thing you
would never notice And I didn't notice it

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until I saw it. Danny heard. He's a pain in the ass.

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He's huge pain in the not with
the media but with the refs, but

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he's Yukon's pain and that wouldn't got
no, but you can kind of sense.

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And I never would have known this
because you know his brother, right,

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he's kind of a bit and he
knows that. And I think that

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Danny might be bigger one, but
he knows it. Yeah, And he's

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not he's not pretending not to be
no, and and and he's not he's

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not apologizing for it. But he's
also saying I kind of know who I

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am, right, Okay, not
great, but it is who I am.

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I have two titles in your pocket. It's even gonna be it's gonna

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be a growing growing issue. But
you know he's because he's stomping and he's

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yelling, and he's uh, you
know, he knows what he knows and

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and tries to get away with it. Yeah, we were having fun just

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watching him and his reactions to different
things and different calls, and he was

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just losing his mind. Yeah,
but the thing is you have to have

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that, You have to have some
of that. And most of the big

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time of coaches have egos, huge
egos, and their poop doesn't stink,

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but in reality it does because you
can't you can't win. You can't get

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to this point without being very good
at what you do and without people.

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Yeah, to some to some degree, well look, look you're not gonna

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have cal of party because that's sort
of kind of all color party. Yeah,

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he wore as welcome in Kentucky.
I saw some some some stories this

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mor where you know, reporters can
finally say stuff because he's gone without the

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ramifications of being you know, being
to cover him. Right, right,

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So he and we've here you were
where are you welcome? Because you think

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you're you're the guy and you start
being a pain in the neck to people

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treating him badly and that's what he
was doing. And he wasn't winning enough

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to to be nice to people to
get the leway, because you're just not

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winning, so get the hell out. And that's that had to happen.

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Yea, his margin for air left
him years ago, and people just finally

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got sick of it. Who would
you rather have as a coach, Calipari

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or Patina? And those are two
choices later hopefully this is Bruce. Hey,

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hey, Bruce, Sorry, No, you put in your name in

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the transfer portal. Yeah, I
mean, I gotta get it. I

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gotta look out for n I own
money. I'll throw you. I gotta,

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I gotta maybe a C note I
can throw your wig that hell yeah,

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no, I mean yeah, I
mean it's just crazy the stuff I'm

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hearing. Oh yeah, really okay, Well you heard it. I mean

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you know, but it's yeah,
I mean like you just can't like nobody

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knows for sure. It's just talk, but like you know, like a

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su is losing, guys that think
they're going to get five hundred thousand from

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going somewhere else. It's yeah.
So you heard another one about three hours

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ago. Boswell, yeah, not
a shock, not a shock. No,

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I well, I mean, I
know, I figure either him or

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Bradley would be I couldn't imagical day
even though they seem to like each other.

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But you know, it just just
the plane thing likely, right,

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playing time is an issue. And
if I mean, do you do you

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have any sense? I mean,
is this a move that maybe it was

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kind of Tommy just letting these guys
know, Okay, these are your roles

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and Jade and Bradley likes his and
kind of Boswell doesn't. Yeah, I

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don't know. I mean, I
don't know. I think they're Yeah,

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I just I think they It kind
of seems like both Thismbllo kind of feel

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like their mutual you know, like
but maybe they're better off going somewhere else.

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And at the same time, it
let Lloyd, you know, move

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up guys there, like into bigger
roles, particularly Bradley and Crevis Righteradly was

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rated there the most efficient player all
year, and you guys saw the way

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he's played in the post season was
he's probably be their best player last you

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know, four or five games,
right, and given the situation with with

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uh with Boswell, you know,
being young, that excuse blah blah blah.

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The Vegas incident, just a lot
of the little things that we hear

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about. Uh, it was probably
best for him to kind of declare or

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to to put his name in the
portal. Yeah, I mean, it

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can't hurt. You always see what's
out there, and and you know,

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I mean I didn't. I don't
know. He hasn't said for sure himself,

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but if he's thinking of coming back
at all, or if it's totally

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ruled it out or whatever, but
yeah, I mean he's got nothing,

406
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:10.559
you know, nothing to lose.
That way, you can probably find a

407
00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:12.119
better fit. And then and then
with all these things in the portal,

408
00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:17.279
there's always nil implications behind it.
You just never know what's really going on

409
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:21.640
because it's all it's all behind the
scenes and and uh, you know,

410
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.160
no contracts, no public records,
nobody knows what's really happening. I mean,

411
00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:30.160
this is this is total unmitigated free
agency, right right, I mean

412
00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:36.400
it's just free agency with zero rules, zero deadlines, zero. I mean,

413
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:38.400
a guy can just say I'm I'm
uh you know, I'm done here.

414
00:27:38.480 --> 00:27:41.880
I'm going over here because they have
some money for me over here.

415
00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:44.880
Say that, right, and the
school can decide, well, okay,

416
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.799
that's more money than we're we're ever
going to give you, So go ahead

417
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:49.559
and go, you know, I
mean, it's it's it's just that now

418
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:57.240
it's professional professional sports. Yeah,
I mean, it's it's right, but

419
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:00.160
you know, minor league professional sports. In fact, if it's true,

420
00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:06.720
what you know what it sounds like
some of the high major starters are now

421
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:11.440
earning more money than they would playing
in the G League, and in some

422
00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:14.720
cases maybe even more than the two
way contract, which is five hundred thousand.

423
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.359
I mean, it's a lot.
You just wonder if it's sustainable,

424
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.480
if the people who are paying this
are going to keep paying it or whatever.

425
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.079
But we're still in the I think
this will be the entering the you

426
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:26.400
know, the third that will be
entering the fourth year of it next next

427
00:28:26.400 --> 00:28:30.160
fall or whatever. And it still
kind of an evolving thing, but it

428
00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:33.319
is. It is crazancy. And
the other thing is, you know,

429
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:36.839
I think that that court ruling this
year that basically said, you know,

430
00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:40.440
even second time transferings are okay.
Now the NBA is kind of codifying it

431
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.440
by saying, yeah, it's okay, I guess or there's some push for

432
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.079
that. So it's like so basically
everybody can switch their team every year,

433
00:28:47.119 --> 00:28:49.240
and it's just gonna be a matter
of our guys keeping happy where they're at

434
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:52.200
and and are their coaches happy?
Do the coaches want them to stick around?

435
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:55.599
Because a lot of times I think
if the coaches wanted to stick around,

436
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.319
they'll if they have a collective that
works for them, you know,

437
00:28:57.359 --> 00:29:00.920
they'll kind of tip their hat to
the collective say hey, can you take

438
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.599
care of this guy and need them
or whatever? Like, well, a

439
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.319
lot of things going on. Well
one of the things, and I've stuck

440
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.839
to a couple of these people,
Now that's a great sample size. They're

441
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:15.519
tired. They're they're they're booster tired. There's a word for it. Uh,

442
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:21.319
they're tired of reaching in the buckets. Yeah, fatigue, Yeah,

443
00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:23.359
because you know how many times can
you have to go to the well every

444
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:30.200
every year? Every year? Well? And you you and you wonder,

445
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:33.759
right, and if you're what is
your mindset? Do you want to give

446
00:29:33.799 --> 00:29:36.680
your money? If you have money
to donate and you want to support that

447
00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.160
team, are you going to give
it to the players through a collective or

448
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.640
are you going to get or unless
you have a company, you want them

449
00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.279
to sponsor them, to sponsor you
that that can work or do you want

450
00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.400
to give it to the school to
help their you know, deficit or building

451
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.359
whatever. And you know that was
actually, you know, when Alabama was

452
00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:55.200
there, I saw Greg har Burn
in the hallway and asked him how to

453
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:56.640
go in at Alabama and he,
you know, of course, is Alabama.

454
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.839
They're they're in pretty good shape.
But he seemed confident that they you

455
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:04.920
know that that their donors are doing
both basically, but at some point you

456
00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:10.039
got to think it's going to affect
the schools because they can't possibly be getting

457
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.799
one hundred percent of what people are
going to give towards the team, and

458
00:30:12.880 --> 00:30:15.680
because some of those dollars are being
diverted to an il. And then the

459
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:19.759
other thing is, you know,
like you said, maybe that's fatigue.

460
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:25.720
Maybe a guy who's given ten grand
a year to the collective and the team

461
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:29.880
keys flaming out in the first weekend
of the tournament might say, hey,

462
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:32.720
what am I getting for my mind? Or whatever? That could happen,

463
00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.079
but we probably haven't got to that
point yet, right, no question.

464
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:41.200
So okay, so let's I mean, this is this is just this is

465
00:30:41.200 --> 00:30:44.319
what the world we're living in.
But the word ross living too. Now

466
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:48.200
is the roster turnover that's going to
happen every single year, no matter how

467
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.400
good you are. You know what
happened to Yukon last year and then they

468
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:56.039
built another national champion. It happens
to everybody. How do we get people

469
00:30:56.039 --> 00:31:03.720
to stop losing their minds over all
this because they are again yeah, I

470
00:31:03.759 --> 00:31:06.160
know, you know. And it's
like I think, if if the team

471
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.799
you're following is competitive and nile,
which I believe Arizona is, I don't

472
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.559
think you have much to worry about
because a lot of times these transfers are

473
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:18.880
either mutual decisions or it's decisions where
the coaches and I'm not necessarily saying Arizona,

474
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.200
but they are decisions that the coaches
are kind of like okay with in

475
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:25.960
some cas In a lot of cases
though, of course, you know,

476
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.599
players looking to get more money,
and I think again that's why I think

477
00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:32.359
a SU has had a little you
know, they've had some problems with that.

478
00:31:32.559 --> 00:31:34.680
And even Bobby Hurley in the pac
Tel tournament said something like I got

479
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.359
to get on the phone and get
people who are who can help us to

480
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.799
have the resources, basically saying I
need money and you know, because guys

481
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:45.599
are leaving. I mean at ASU, guy like they went to the tournament

482
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.160
last year. Everybody loves playing for
Hurley from every time I heard, and

483
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.359
they're still like lost nine guys.
So what does that tell you? You

484
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.480
know, they're not you know,
and they're you know, So if you

485
00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:57.400
have a guy that's playing, he
likes his coach and they go to the

486
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:01.319
postseason and he still leaves, then
he's definitely you know, checking out free

487
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.599
agency and seeing what's out there.
There's you know, that's it's almost without

488
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:08.319
questioning what's going on in a lot
of those cases. But you know,

489
00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:13.400
if you're competitive, if you if
you have resources in nil, which a

490
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.200
lot of these major schools do,
you can you can keep who you want

491
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:20.519
and you can go get guys that
you need and then it's just a matter

492
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.720
of getting the pieces to fit.
And I think Dan Hurley at Yukon has

493
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.880
done, you know why all accounts
a masterful job of that, you know,

494
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.039
not only getting and getting the guys
that really worked in his system,

495
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:34.960
and uh, you know, they
were just you know, tremendous Considering what

496
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:37.599
they lost to be as good as
they were this year is really quite amazing.

497
00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:40.160
So you know, when I talked
to you this morning or text you

498
00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.640
this morning, you joked. I
think it was a joke. But then

499
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:46.720
I've continued to hear that, Okay, Caleb coming back. I mean I've

500
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:51.279
heard it, not from you.
I don't know. I mean, I

501
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:52.759
think he's still thinking. I mean, he's got to decide does he want

502
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.000
to come back, does he want
to transfer, does he want to test

503
00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.839
for the draft, or do all
do maybe a little bit of everything,

504
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:01.799
which is what a lot of guys
do. Now I think, you know,

505
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:05.599
he's a guy who could do that. You know, the early indications

506
00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:08.279
are he's not projected as a draft
picks this year, so he may and

507
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:13.119
he may very well want to use
that COVID year, either here or somewhere

508
00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:16.319
else to to maybe you know,
continue to become a more efficient player,

509
00:33:16.720 --> 00:33:20.559
get you know, kind of a
race. The way he finished last year,

510
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.359
he had a great year. He
just finished on a rough note.

511
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.279
And you know, maybe maybe next
year he goes all the way through and

512
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:29.079
can get himself in the draft and
you know, make some Ethan Nile money

513
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:30.799
in the process. And so he's
probably figuring out what's going on. And

514
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:36.119
I'm sure you know, Tommy Lloyd's
probably talking to him about Okay, if

515
00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:37.519
he came back, what it would
be like. And then I think both

516
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:40.680
sides have to figure out what they
think is best for him, and that

517
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.599
that seems to be taking a while, Whereas I think the rash that we've

518
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:49.839
seen the four guys leaving three scholarships
guys in the last two days is an

519
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:52.720
indication that those meetings are you know, wrap it up going on? Right,

520
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:57.319
They've had those discussions and it's like, okay, let's go because because

521
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.799
once you decide on both sides,
the player and the coach, what what's

522
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.279
going to happen? You know,
they want to move fast because the player,

523
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.119
the transfer portal has been spending for
what three or four weeks now,

524
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:09.920
and it's time to get going.
Okay, let's assume, because we like

525
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:14.119
to do that and we all know
what that does. Let's assume Caleb,

526
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.400
besides this stay, what what does
this? What does this roster look like?

527
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:20.639
With the guys he the guys that
are coming in be the guys who

528
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:22.559
are already here. Yeah, you
know, where does it? Where does

529
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:28.199
he fit? Well? I mean, you know, I assume that Tell

530
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.360
Larson's leaving he's not said, and
he's the kind of guy who might not

531
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:34.960
even make an announcement that might just
come out when those NBA list comes out

532
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.320
or whatever. But assuming he leaves, you know, they could they could

533
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.719
start you know, Love and kJ
Lewis on the wings, and that would

534
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.239
keep those guys happy. I think
that the question to me would be the

535
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:50.400
jokesan Sam and the new recruit they
have, who is apparently you know,

536
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.840
pretty pretty aggressive score. It seems
like he can help right away. Is

537
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:58.519
he going to be happy coming into
a situation where he's not going to start

538
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:00.960
right away, you know, And
and he wouldn't if if Love came back,

539
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:05.039
you know, but he hasn't signed
a letter intent, so he's a

540
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:08.000
free agent too, as they say, so who knows, But that that's

541
00:35:08.039 --> 00:35:10.679
kind of my question. But I
think they could, you know, maybe

542
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:15.039
start all three of those guys and
Lewis being you know, the defensive guy

543
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.719
he is, but that that would
be really it would be really interesting.

544
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:23.400
And I think up front they've got
you know, Crevius is obviously could be

545
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:29.039
a starter now and then Emmanuel Stephan
the freshman may have coming in, the

546
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:31.320
big guy. He's got a real
upside. I don't know exactly how much

547
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:35.679
he can insure, but he's he's
really athletic and got some upside. It'd

548
00:35:35.679 --> 00:35:37.119
be interesting to see if he can
help them right way too. So let

549
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.880
me ask you. You were at
the game last night. They spent the

550
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:44.000
weekend up in Phoenix as well.
We're all working diligently. You've covered some

551
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.400
pretty good teams Vegas, and here
Jay and I want to ask you too,

552
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:52.880
where does this fit? This team
from last night fit in the teams

553
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.719
you've seen personally covered? Vegas had
some good ones, all the teams that

554
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.840
this last year. Yeah, no, no, I'm talking Yukon. Yukon,

555
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:04.679
Yeah, because you know he's covered
some good teams. You know.

556
00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:07.000
Two thousand and one to me is
the best team you're ever in Arizona.

557
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.239
It had all the pieces, right, he got got beat by Duke,

558
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:14.480
but they were hurt too. Arizona's
hurt, Gilbert and all these guys.

559
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:17.400
Yeah, and ninety seven wasn't his
team in ninety eight might have been the

560
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:22.840
seam You know what I'm saying,
Where would you put this team comparing Yukon

561
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.760
to Arizona teams? Yeah, buddy, better than all better than all of

562
00:36:27.840 --> 00:36:30.159
them, than all but two thousand
and one was very very good. I

563
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:35.400
thought they were very very very good. Yeah. I thought two thousand and

564
00:36:35.400 --> 00:36:40.320
three arguably was as good or not
or man, I mean, maybe better

565
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:49.199
in a way because they had Welton
Anderson and Jason Gardner and then Andrea Goudala

566
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.239
coming off the bench. I would
have thought whatever, and than Adamson was

567
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.639
really good to Yeah, I mean
I was kind of. They're very similar

568
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:04.920
in completeness and talent one eight ninety
eight not ninety seven, right, and

569
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.199
then and then three and arguably five
team was pretty good too. And then

570
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.679
you know, you guys go back
further than I do here. I mean,

571
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.079
you know when it sounds like you
know, then you've got you know,

572
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:19.239
a couple other earlier teams in ninety
four or eighty eight, eighty nine,

573
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.639
whatever, you know, all really
good. Two. I don't know,

574
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:25.320
I don't know where you don't see
the team. I just I guess

575
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:29.840
I just saw the domination of Yukon
by and by that they were good.

576
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:35.760
By that, I mean that nobody
early on in every game that I saw

577
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:37.880
them in the tournament, five minutes
into the game, you knew the other

578
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.079
team had no shot, including even
though Purdue hung with them a little bit,

579
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.000
Alabama hung with them a little bit, they never had a shot.

580
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:46.559
Well. Bruce was in the question
room when I asked on him this,

581
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:52.639
I said, having seen you lost
couple of games, you guys were amazing.

582
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.599
How did you guys lose? Who
did? Yeah? That's great?

583
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.199
What do you say? I think? You know? The funniest thing is

584
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:05.719
uh, I mean to me anyway, just I think they actually had their

585
00:38:05.719 --> 00:38:07.599
toughest game in the second round against
Northwestern. Of all teams, they just

586
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.880
didn't but they just didn't play well
in that game. And then I imagine

587
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.320
that Dan Hurley went, you know, nuts after that game, and they

588
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:19.719
didn't do it again, and like
Jay said, they're just they're so complete,

589
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.559
you know. I mean they do
have some you know, NBA talent

590
00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:30.199
on that team, but just the
whole system and the defense they threw it.

591
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:32.159
I mean, I kept looking at
the step of I'm like, why

592
00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:37.440
isn't produced shooting threes? They couldn't. I mean, like they didn't try,

593
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.599
and then when they did they were
they were mostly way off. It

594
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:45.320
was just and then and then you
you couple that with the efficiency they played

595
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:50.239
with offensively and you know, produced
trying to keep it slower and then pace

596
00:38:50.320 --> 00:38:54.559
and then you know, once the
Tristan Newton had threw up the two alley

597
00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:58.119
oaks in a row and they got
them, it was just like, okay,

598
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:00.440
that's going to break the teams back, and it did. Ye rude,

599
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:05.639
and you couldn't hand it when they
when Yukon added that kind of explosive

600
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:07.760
offense to what they were already doing, it was it was too much.

601
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:12.519
And that's that's not something me see. I mean, almost every college basketball

602
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.719
team is flawed in one way or
another, and it's hard to really see

603
00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:19.079
any with Yukon. Yeah, well
for the first eight eight games of this

604
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.599
one, we didn't think there was
a flaw until until we saw there was

605
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:25.840
a lot of flaws. Well you
know, and you know, see if

606
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.719
you were there and Duke, I
mean, you know, it's kind of

607
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:31.760
you know, I remember remember after
that game, Tommy Lloyd said, you

608
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.679
don't win trophies in November. What
you do if you win those little mts

609
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:37.679
or whatever, but you generally don't, and he was right. And then

610
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.840
guess what they get to March and
they're not winning trophies. You know,

611
00:39:43.159 --> 00:39:45.800
because they're not winning like they did
in November. So I always thinking,

612
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.119
I think, you know, honestly, the probably the toughest thing about this

613
00:39:49.199 --> 00:39:52.039
team is they won too much early
and they raised expectations through the roof,

614
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:55.840
and then they ultimately finished pretty much
exactly where they were picked. I mean,

615
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:59.360
in fact, the ap pole came
out today, they didn't. Postseason

616
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.599
one, they ranked eleventh, and
in the preseason they were twelve, you

617
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:06.719
know, and and I mean they
just they did, they did what they

618
00:40:06.719 --> 00:40:08.320
were supposed to do. It's just
because they came out of the gate so

619
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:13.599
fast. Yeah, And that's a
credit to you know, the coaching staff

620
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:15.760
preparation for them. And it may
also have helped that they took their Middle

621
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.320
East trip to get everybody bonded and
playing together a little bit early. So

622
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.519
they came out super strong, but
they ultimately were the same team that they

623
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.960
were expected to be. Suffered the
same problems way back in the day.

624
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:32.199
November December fantastic, and then March
was always a who knows what it was?

625
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:38.239
Okay, go back to if if
if the national championship was November thirtieth,

626
00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.760
Arizona, you know, might have
seven or eight of them. Yeah,

627
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:44.960
very good, very good, Bruce, like you go back to bed

628
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.519
or take the ticket taking that thank
you, thank thank you. He just

629
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:51.639
break down some of that one on
the other side. All right, let's

630
00:40:51.639 --> 00:40:52.639
go and take a break right now. Will be right back and we'll take

631
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your calls. Five to two zero
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iHeartRadio w app Just Surgery I on
the Ball. Hey, welcome back to

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My on the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. M Steve, He's

671
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Jay and the least with us today. You're counting down? Has started?

672
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:53.079
Right? Three weeks one month from
today, one month from today to the

673
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:57.679
week, like a big shindig going
to be happening and all that. Yeah,

674
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.920
I have seven people from my family
coming. Where's the party? My

675
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.280
apartment? But then we're drinking stuff
around Tucson. But yeah, there's two

676
00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:15.559
graduations in the university. Man,
would you do it all over again?

677
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:20.559
Yeah? I would, he would
do. But I'm ready. I'm ready

678
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:25.079
to get out there world. Okay, good. I was gonna ask you

679
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.079
something. Oh our bracket, our
bracket? Okay, our show bracket?

680
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:34.480
Who you want it? I want
it? Did everybody else just quit?

681
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:38.000
No? You know who came in
second? Our friends at Showtime Cards?

682
00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:42.039
Oh did he George? How many
did he put it? Just once?

683
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.960
We got to take him to dinner? Okay, cool, so that'd be

684
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.079
good. He's good. So for
those of you who did who were in

685
00:44:47.119 --> 00:44:52.320
the bracket? Uh uh George Mott
is the owner of Showtime Cards, great

686
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:58.559
sponsor to the show. Uh he
finished second to me. Who that's just

687
00:44:58.599 --> 00:45:04.159
stupid, right, that's just really
it's just really dumb. But uh,

688
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.880
it was fun to just kind of
keep an eye on it just a bracket

689
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:10.599
out there. So we promised that
whoever finished first among the non show people,

690
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:14.519
basically me and Steve, would we
would take him to dinner. So

691
00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:16.400
we're George, if you're listening,
We're gonna take you to dinner somewhere.

692
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:20.840
Steve and I have a preference for
MENI detail, but that can take a

693
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.679
long time. So if you have
another place you'd like to go, Not

694
00:45:22.880 --> 00:45:29.840
Flemings, right, not Flemings,
not Sullivan's. Uh, something like you

695
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:34.880
know Aminidito, you know, nice
decent Mexican restaurant, maybe go I don't

696
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.199
know, uh, you know,
will take you the Longhorned Steakhouse or something

697
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:42.480
like that. Okay, we'll set
a date, so we'll we'll reach out

698
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:45.400
and get that going. But yeah, I pulled that off. So I

699
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.960
want to know something funny about my
bracket. So in one of my pools,

700
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.719
I was in fifth, but every
single person above me picked Yukon,

701
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:58.920
so had the right winner. Some
I'm the highest person who didn't have you.

702
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.199
Well, this is actually don't know
how I got it then, because

703
00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:07.480
Kentucky in this one, wow,
and this one had Kentucky. So I

704
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:15.960
don't know how that. No A
lot. There's like twenty Okay, okay,

705
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:19.679
we were talking about what I was
gonna ask you. The Color Party.

706
00:46:19.760 --> 00:46:22.159
We'll forget that for a while because
of their old and guys. But

707
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:27.360
I would take Patina over Color Party. Just about unpacking with Brus and we

708
00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:30.480
were talking about here, chemistry.
There's a lot to you know the guy.

709
00:46:30.559 --> 00:46:35.400
I think that would have helped him
a lot. Maybe not Moroscus.

710
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:37.599
Of all the guys that decided to
leave, we didn't really get to see

711
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.039
him. We just don't know Steve. I don't know that we know enough

712
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:45.480
about him. He could shoot,
he could shoot that, right, but

713
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:49.840
don't you think don't you think that
with him being as good a shooter as

714
00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:54.000
he was, that he was really
bad and all the other stuff. Maybe

715
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:57.920
just bad at defending. And where
would you play him? Because he would

716
00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.000
the party who placed Palet right,
and Pelly did so many things, yeah

717
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:06.800
right, pell Pelly was the I
mean they stupid, stupid pun but a

718
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.119
Swiss army knife, right, I
call him Sweden if the Sweden, yeah

719
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:13.599
exactly, But he was a Swiss
army knife for them, you know.

720
00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:19.519
And and most games he did all
those things, but the games where he

721
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:23.360
didn't do all those things were the
games that they struggle? Sure? Sure,

722
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:25.719
so let me let me ask both
of you. Oh well, I

723
00:47:25.760 --> 00:47:29.320
don't know if I can ask because
you're a student and it's hard to put.

724
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:31.280
Okay, you have a you have
one hundred percent of your life,

725
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:36.079
one hundred percent of your life.
You have your eat, eating, drinking,

726
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:39.960
your sleeping, and your family.
Where does basketball and football take a

727
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:45.280
bite of that life? That's a
big bite in my life. So football,

728
00:47:45.079 --> 00:47:51.360
yeah, football, you want a
percentage? I want a percentage twenty

729
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:55.400
Holy moly. And basketball fifteen?
Maybe another fifteen. That's so. So

730
00:47:55.639 --> 00:48:00.320
sixty five percent of your life is
the rest of your life? No,

731
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:04.760
because then there's baseball and then there's
golf. I'm not just talking sports.

732
00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.760
I'm talking life for that's what I'm
saying. No, I'm we're gap fit

733
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.119
into this. She gets like four
percent right in there somewhere. Oh my

734
00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:17.719
god, that's not true. I
promise you know. It's funny, it's

735
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:23.239
a it's a it's an interesting thing
to think about. But well, here's

736
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:27.239
the thing I asked for a reason. Well, here's the thing in all

737
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:31.079
of those things, all right,
my family is in the middle of all

738
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:36.360
of that. Okay, the football
stuff, you know, share my whole

739
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:40.280
family basketball, it's my whole family
with golf, my son, I golf.

740
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.920
I only golf with my son.
I can't remember the last time I

741
00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:47.000
golfed without him. Well, I
might go play nine holes at El Dorado

742
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.480
at four o'clock in the afternoon on
a Sunday, But even then I'll call

743
00:48:51.559 --> 00:48:54.599
him and he can come me.
So like the golf, whatever piece of

744
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:59.320
golf it is, he's in at
one hundred percent. So my family's in

745
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.000
there and all of that. So
when you're talking about just my family that

746
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.480
doesn't involve sports, I'm gonna say, Okay, let me say, if

747
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:09.920
there's one hundred percent of my family
time, how much of that family time

748
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:14.639
doesn't involve sports. I would say
less than fifty percent. Mm hmm.

749
00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:17.079
The reason I ask is because when
I get to the Internet and the Twitter,

750
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:22.920
just how people are so their life
exactly, I said, don't you

751
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.400
have other things to do concern yourself
with? No, I don't. But

752
00:49:25.440 --> 00:49:30.079
it's not my life though, because
life from the stand point the path that

753
00:49:30.360 --> 00:49:35.480
my head doesn't explode very often.
That's really beautiful though, what you said,

754
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.280
honestly, because That's what's why we
watch sports, right. It brings

755
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:40.840
people together. It gives a sense
of community. Yeah, all about.

756
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:44.559
Like I watched sports with my family
too all the time. That's why I

757
00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.360
like sports because of my family.
Okay, Like I got home today and

758
00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.519
I had gotten two of those Final
Four panos, and you know, I

759
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:52.920
kept one for myself, but I
gave them to my daughter Rachel. I

760
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:58.039
gave it to her because she's so
involved in the sports with me. Well,

761
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.920
soon I come home from the show
and she's in the living room and

762
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.039
she'll be watching an NBA game,
and I'm like, that just warms my

763
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:07.760
heart so much because she didn't say, what did you just do? What

764
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.800
do you two fools talk about?
So? Well, sometimes she goes,

765
00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:14.840
I hope you didn't talk about me. So I gave her the pick because

766
00:50:14.840 --> 00:50:16.800
I felt like it would be a
big deal to her. Yeah, you

767
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:22.079
know, I'm surprised she wasn't helping. She would have accept when she had

768
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:24.719
decided that either she was going to
the Final four if Arizona was in it

769
00:50:24.719 --> 00:50:29.599
as a spectator, or she was
going to California with my other daughter and

770
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:32.039
they were gonna go see a friend. Yeah, after the fact when I

771
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.440
told her, you know, if
you'd have stuck around, you could have

772
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:38.920
worked the Final four, and she
was kind of like, oh yeah,

773
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:45.039
yeah, okay. Well the reason
I ask is people, it's like the

774
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:49.920
whole world or it seems surely seems
you're going to open up your computer or

775
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:53.079
your phone and you're gonna start hacking
away at being negative or whatever. How

776
00:50:53.199 --> 00:50:58.400
important is that that's the whole See, that's not that's not so much about

777
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:07.360
being a sports fan. That's about
being a neurotic person that could because Steve

778
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.920
that that's a person that if they
weren't doing it about sports, they're doing

779
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:15.880
that about something else, right.
That more, that's a neurosis of a

780
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:22.840
of a different level where just happens
to be that sports is where they they

781
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.440
spit that out, and the Internet
gives them a medium to do that.

782
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:30.000
Yeah, and no one really cares, and no one cares what you have

783
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:37.280
to say? My brother Rick,
right, you know, he's a good

784
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:39.199
guy. I mean, he's like, he's a good person, but he's

785
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:45.599
he's either losing his mind over sports
or losing his mind over politics. There's

786
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:51.920
nothing else in his life. Give
us a call, somebody, somebody's texting

787
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:54.119
right now said Jay just threw you
under the bus. Nobody. You've thrown

788
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:58.119
him under the bus so many times, and he's gonna call me and say

789
00:51:58.199 --> 00:52:01.000
why. Just amazing to me.
Because people aren't happy. People aren't happy

790
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:07.159
over sports doesn't really mean it's really
supposed to be something that brings people together.

791
00:52:07.840 --> 00:52:14.920
Frustrate the people see a lot of
times see it's it's pent up anger

792
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:16.159
and frustration over their own life.
I know I want what I will say,

793
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.320
we want to have a less than
a minute. So so now that

794
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.079
we have this debate with blue Bloods
and blah blah blah, you can kind

795
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:23.760
of you you're on my side now
kind of right. I hate calling it

796
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:28.840
your side, but yes, I'm
more in agreement with Okay, I'm fine

797
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.920
with that. Didn't last night's U
Can't team and their program say there's a

798
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.599
difference. There is. There's a
difference, and if people want to compare,

799
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:42.440
they can't. Yeah, it's obvious
Arizona's not in that league. They're

800
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.119
not. They're not. Now.
They can go off and win a couple

801
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.920
of national championships and maybe get in
there, but they're not. Even if

802
00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:51.800
they win one next year, they're
not and it's different, right, it's

803
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:53.119
got a different feed, right.
But there aren't many there, I mean,

804
00:52:53.159 --> 00:52:57.400
there aren't many. I mean,
you know what like what you know,

805
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:00.559
Hurley said last night, we've been
ruling college basketball for the which was

806
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.599
a classical half, which was classic. I put that in the story.

807
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:06.599
This was a classical answer. All
right, we got to hit the road.

808
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:08.639
We're gonna come back, uh and
A Lisa gonna have breaking news and

809
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.400
there's lots of it, so you're
sure to come back, and then we'll

810
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:12.960
take your calls.

