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sell A. Philip, Welcome to the Trucika podcast. My friend, how
are you? Thank you very much, sir, and I'm very delighted to
be on board with your wonderful show. Thank you and honor awesome. We
have a mutual friend, Philip Mantle, had him on the podcast a couple
of weeks ago. He's introduced me to a lot of really cool individuals that
he works with, and you was one of the names that came across my
desk and saw what you were bringing to the table and said this would definitely
make for a great talk. So here we are. That's brilliant and Philip
Mentle is also a mine and my twin brother, Ronald's mentor, so he's
been of enormous assistance and helped us both. So we are grateful to all
those esteemed individuals, researchers and authors in this very complex, you know,
subject matter concerning UFOs. So yes, and we're going to talk a little
bit about a little bit about a lot of different topics and we'll cover a
wide gamut with you. But what got you into the interest in ufology,
aliens, UFOs, in this this whole subculture, which it definitely is,
Like, what was your genesis into this stuff? Well, the beginning was
when my twin brother and I were thirteen years of age and we had viewed
at the back garden of our grandmother's house. She lived in Middlesex here in
England. They had quite a big house in the garden on summer's late afternoon
or evening, I can't remember. We remember the event very well, but
not if it was late afternoon or evening, but we were witnessed to a
silver orb in broad daylight that came over towards the back tree to the garden
and then came over her head. It was completely circular, about the size
of a football. There were no markings on it. It seemed heavy,
and we asked her what is it, and she told us that the fairies
had come to take a closer look at us. Of course, we realized
that was not the truth. But we saw the object moving towards the house,
towards the first floor windows, then to the second and it moved over
and we ran inside to the other side of the house and watched it disappear.
And it had been the talk of the family for a while. And
the main event that had occurred and got me really involved with this was what
people term an alien abduction that occurred in the winter of nineteen eighty nine,
and the only abduction that I can recall. There may have been another one,
and this led me into the crusade to find out two aspects to the
phenomena. I wanted to know whether or not it was true, and that
was already relevant, but we are living in a system that debunks the subject,
so I wanted to know whether or not when I was lying or the
system that we serve was lying. And I think we can pretty much guess
what side of the fence I was looking at this from. So it was
during the event the rather unusual event in the winter of nineteen eighty nine that
showed me that there appeared to be two aspects to what we call an abduction,
an alien abduction. One happens on a very physical level, and other
part seems to integrate itself on a very personal level of conscious connection. And
you know, without going too far afield, here we are looking at something
that seemingly operates not only on the physical but also a pound inter dimensional hypothesis.
And that's where I started to really dig into this research. And I
was fed up also with the constant lies from the system, you know,
being told constantly that you know, you're laughed at when you appear on media,
television or on you know, talking to people. So I kind of
like suffered like many people do through this form of ridicule. But today we're
finding that more people are becoming more aware of this subject, not just about
the UFO phenomenon, but also about the spiritual side to the essence of what
we really represent as opposed to the biological flesh and blood mechanisms with a cell
by date that we've been sold by the system and everything else is just faith.
So this is where my crusade led me. Never would I ever have
dreamed that I would be connected with some of the highest minds within euphology,
and that is something I totally respect and our modus operandi is to search for
the truth. So this started with you having this siding at a young age,
and then you had an abduction experience as well. Yes, that's correct.
Detail. Well it's a little bit long winded, but I will just
stay for the record. Part of the experience proved to me that the grays
as we call them, and they were then main emphasis of my research.
Because I had experienced these beings as it were, I was puzzled as to
how the process of an abduction occurred, and seemingly it would appear that the
individual is taken through solid matter and why it was that on more occasions than
not, the grays have to be in close proximity to the individual that they're
abducting. And I began to realize that through the abduction that I had,
I started to question how it was that I was being able to be taken
through solid matter. I eedores and this is something that's stuck for many,
many years. And you know, we get people saying, oh, it's
because they can beam you up all well and good, but why can't they
do that from the craft? Why do they have to be present or in
close proximity to the individual. And I believe that what may be occurring is
that these beings need some kind of psychic integration and they need the subject to
be in some form of conscious state in order to create that psychic link.
So my research which then led in the understanding that perhaps we're dealing with somethink
or a power force, energy, whatever intelligence that is very old and it's
kind of disturbing when you find through research of how many people have had these
experiences and rather like the abduction to me that I discovered way back in nineteen
ninety six because I have been credited with an article in a magazine that we
had then caught alien encounters. I discovered that the abduction phenomena sat very closely
towards the near death experience. And for example, in a near death experience,
a person goes through wars and doors, they see a light, they
go down a tunnel. More times than not, they meet loved ones that
communicate telepathy telepathically, and the person is returned back more times than not changed
and in some cases if they are suffering terminal illness, it seems that the
whole biasphere of their body is completely reconfigured to its correct vibrational level, which
means they're healed. The abduction seems to occur on dare I say this more
times than on a rather negative level, although it mirrors the near death experience.
We're finding that the person that again is taking through walls and doors,
they're in the presence of these beings that communicate telepathically. A person has a
sense of missing time. That could be because the individual has been taking outside
their normal framework of time processing and at the same with the near death experience
where the person loses or cannot account for time. So this led me into
the understanding that through what I had experience, which I will tell you was
quite grueling and quite nasty and embarrassing, if I may use that word,
and something I had to live with for a very long time. And because
of that shame, because of the experience, I wasn't one of these people
people to just sit and leave it. I wanted to find out what it
was, if there was any form or basive reality to a continuation of these
events with other people and this is what we found. So this is how
I really wanted to find out the answer to what the grays are. I
know there are other factions of beings, as we're told, but I can
only talk from experience. So it was a very frightening experience and one that
I have never forgot and I can still recall very clearly. May I make
a point in saying here that I have never had regression or hypnosis. I
remembered the events exactly as they had occurred, and they I have not added
or subtracted anything. But we're still puzzled. We still don't know why,
and this is what we're looking at. Yeah, I mean that was going
to be the next question, just about your abduction experience. Was it something
that was fearful and or was it something beautiful and changed your life? Obviously
it changed your life, but it sets you on this road, this path.
Whenever you talk about, you know, the spiritual connection something that you
keep mentioning, is it more over the spiritual abilities that these entities might have,
or the connection that made you open up to become more spiritual as well?
Because we are hearing a lot of that that people who have had these
abduction scenarios or contact experiences. They become more in tune with their telepathic communication
with beings and ships and friends, and they know who's about to call them
right before they call on a telephone, different premonitions and things like that.
Where does the spirituality link in with you? Is it more the spiritual powers
that they have, or are you tapping into some of this stuff now as
well? That is a very interesting question and one that I really value highly.
Now. What happened was that, even though the experience to me was
very negative, in later life, I then became interested in psychic phenomena.
One of the reasons was because I wanted to find what we as humans represent,
what our purpose is, and I discovered after going to see a brilliant
medium. As they're called, I would prefer the word interpreter, because they're
just interpreting information coming from a higher source that we can't see here. Rather
like the signals to your mobile phone, you have a physical instrument to catch
the signals and download and convert those signals into a language that we can understand.
So did the experience change me? Yes? It did. Did it
help me? It may well possibly have. I think something happened I think
when all of us go through a very tragic experience, whatever that tragedy may
be, something opens up. I think there's more empathy or more understanding now.
It could be that the experience I had back in the winter of nineteen
eighty nine had somehow opened a part of my mind which was previously closed.
And as we know this the other subject matter that fascinates me, not just
about the UFO phenomena, but also the psychic part, the survival of human
consciousness. A little bit strange. It was back in nineteen ninety six when
I brought forward this theory, and of course a lot of people now share
things, which I'm more than happy to do, but it made me realize
something more about the grades themselves through our consciousness, through our spirituality. I
have always believed that when we die, you know, take away all the
jargon, that consciousness survives the state of death, and it returns to source.
And it is feasible to assume that we ourselves have incarnated, perhaps more
times than once, and not just perhaps on this planet. Because we always
think in the in terms of being a human. And one of the things
that fascinated me and I did question, was did this experience happen to change
me deliberately, to change the course of my life going forward. Like all
of us individually, we are all important, all special, no matter what
we do or what we think. So the grays kind of like gave me
a clue perhaps as to their genus or what they are doing and why they
are interested in us as a reproductive species. Because we must understand through our
own research that the grays appear to be some type of cloned entity or robotic
in nature. That much has been agreed by many researchers. I mean,
we have different theoretical applications that we can apply, and I'm open to all
forms of speculation, but I must state I think this subject or the experience
may show us more about what we are as humans. And you know,
when we look at the grays as they are called, it's like chasing shadows.
They come in and they go out very quickly, and certainly their modus
operandia is kept secret, or at least they dem on that. It's not
like they want to come forward and reveal all them where they do most times
are not its lies. So yes, I believe that I wanted to discover
not just about the reality of UFOs, but also of the continuation of what
we call the soul. Yeah, that's good. It starts out with one
thing, but then it's snowballs into a lot more. You thought it was
only about the proof of extraterrestrial life, and then it becomes the agenda,
and then who am I? Why am I here? And a lot of
us think snowball. Let me ask you this you have? Is that a
picture behind you of the Jesus Arm wrestling Satan? Is that behind it?
Correct? Correct? So here in the comments section as we're live streaming here,
some people are saying that, and this is definitely from a Christian perspective,
that the Grays are all aliens everything outside of our atmosphere or whatever.
There are all demonic fallen entities that are coming here to do serimns, to
kidnap people, things like that, mostly across the board from the Christian perspective.
I'm a Christian, but mostly when I got into euthology, it was
studying under the Christian you know, Lynn Marzouli and all these guys, Guy
im alone, so many more names, and it was, hands down,
these are demons. It wasn't until I got into looking into different people who
just kind of looked at the research for what it was that I got out
of. Okay, these are demons, these may be angels. What about
the angelic beings that are out there traveling? So do you have a religious
connotation with it when it comes to these experiences that angels, aliens, demons
and all that kind of stuff. Well, you know, I have the
greatest respect for the religious departments totally, And as I've said before, we
must walk very carefully. I know that I've had many people telling me straight
out of their demons. We cannot discount that hypothesis. We have to be
open minded. The only reason that I study them because one person told me
who was religious, that you know, you're doing the devil's work, now,
I'm not. In order for us to understand something, we must explore
it and not just through you know, religious texts or words in the Bible
which I have read. By the way, it is possible, and if
I can take the hypothesis one step further with regards to the grays and their
secret modus operandi, we are finding that the grays seemed or appear to be
interested in reproduction. Now for a species that themselves cannot reproduce that sniff suspect
to me, even back in nineteen ninety six, and I had what I
could only term as some type of revelation in nineteen ninety six. People call
it what they will. It felt like a download. The only way I
can explain it was like some kind of revelation that everything came pouring out very
quickly. I scribbled everything down at work on a piece of paper, and
I submitted the article to a magazine that took it, and the Alien Encounters
magazine. And of course this has applied in my further works, in my
books later on. But if we look at the grays, they seem to
be a blank canvas. They are interested in reproduction, They are interested in
what makes us as humans tick. They don't understand about time of love,
of empathy, of spirituality. It's almost as if they themselves have lost themselves
totally to some other cause. Now, we could take the cloned hypothesis a
little bit further, which is what is part of my work, and we
could assume that because we come through the normal processing of gestation birthing cycle,
we carry the memories from one life to the other or the soul. I'm
not going to get involved with the reincarnational aspects. I think it's important for
us to look at all areas of this debate. But one thing that is
correct is that you know, for a species that cannot replicate themselves, they
are using humans. And it's possible on a theoretical level that the divine spark
of that clone, that is not part of the creation process, is interested
in trying to reincubate itself into a biological form. If they are demons,
and I will say a big if, because I step very lightly, but
I also respect all establishments, even though I get attacked and criticized from all
sides. You can't win in this game. If they were demons, is
it possible perhaps that they are trying to re enter into this physical realm through
this said hybridization program, because from our stance, you know, we are
spirit and I've always believed that that we are consciousness that is linked or a
soul in a biological form that is designed to walk through this life with an
experience in memories. But it could be that another species has hijacked that because
they themselves are no longer part of the bigger picture and of course, you
said quite rightfully. When you're dealing with this subject matter, it leads you
into some very deep waters and uncomfortable territory, but territory nevertheless that we must
explore. We have to. That is very important. So aliens from another
planet, I'm not so sure. I tend to believe more in the interdimensional
hypothesis. Now when man came into being, when we were created. We
have to understand that we are so far removed from the creation here on Earth
because we've been allowed to develop and we know why. You know, we
are the sentient life form that's been graced to and be afforded the ability to
progress and question, whereas all of nature cannot. But it is therefore our
so survises as it were. But the grays appear very different, and it
could be that they are performing a replication program to try to re establish themselves
back into the loop of creation where they have been damned. So that's what
I see with regards to that. Yeah, So I mean that kind of
you know, leads us to you know, the hybrid children and people have
all these stories about going on a ship or entering some type of room with
a bunch of children there and you know that they carried some of these children,
these different stories that you're hearing about. I know there was something that
really freaked me out years ago. You may know what I'm talking about,
because I'm sure you've just been digging all of this, But there was this
lady who had a baby like this, there was something inside of her.
She said she was abducted by aliens and they put something with dinner, and
she had this baby that looked like some type of little frog creature. I
don't know if you remember that at all, but when you get into that,
it's definitely become a subculture, especially even within uphology, but it's definitely
their urbanization in people who are carrying alien babies and things like that. I've
kind of stayed away from it myself, but early on, definitely scary,
definitely weird. You hear crazy stories. Are you familiar with any of that
stuff? Yes, And again that is uncomfortable territory. I mean, I
can only talk from experience. But let's look at the Grays again and how
the process they may instigate in the form of an abduction. They're able to
bring the person through wars and doors, through solid matter, they take them
onto a craft, and I believe what's happening in some instances they seem to
have up their program. If you look at the nineteen fifties and sixties,
the world wasn't as populated as it is today, and in some forms of
contact as we call it, it was done on a very one to one
level, although on most of those occas there will be a physical part and
a part that they can't recall and had to be regressed through memory. If
not sometimes you know a little bit sporadic or trying to put the pieces together.
So that confirms that the visitors as we call them, are not interested
in reaching out to us or helping us. They have their own agenda.
Now in the process of an abduction, what I feel is happening possibly is
that the grays, from their dimension of awareness are extracting the real you from
your host, as it were, the physical part of what you are biologically,
and once you are matched by that frequency, they're able to interact with
you. But because the consciousness or soul for want of a better word,
is still attached, sorry to its physical counterpart, whatever they do to you
there, which is real, will still affect the body marks. You know,
implants that type of thing. Now, look at the near death experience,
so you have that that the people are taking their bodies with them and
said ships and things. Not all the times, in some occasions they are.
If they do, then they're using or utilizing the same process of bringing
the molecular structure of the entire U into their full frequency of awareness and interaction
is definitely achieved through this. The UFO could be a reference point. They
need a point or a place to bring you to. They can't just take
you anywhere. And I feel that the grays also are able to manifest images
very clearly to the abductee. They can even bring the abductees' dead relatives on
board. So the grays appear to be very powerful in terms of interacting with
the mind, although it feels to me as though they're trying to understand us
on a not only a biological level, but also the consciousness the soul.
With these forms or processing of mental instigation, for instance, they bring fear.
They will show explosions or the world blowing up. It's almost as if
they want some kind of stimuli from the individual, and they may be recording
this. So we have to be very careful. Are we dealing with demons?
Are we dealing with androids? Are we dealing with clones? Are we
dealing with people from the future? That you know as well as I do
that this sphere is so vast, But my theoretical piece of work, although
maybe rejected by many, does suggest to some level that the interaction between us
and so called aliens is all about the soul, about what makes us tick,
about reproduction, and that is very strange, especially when they want to
deliberately, you know, nullify the memory, so the person has no,
hardly any recall, in more cases than not, of what's occurred. Now,
what does that tell you? And please don't tell me there's a special
code in the universe that stops beings from interacting with us. Well, if
that's the case, the grades have broken up already. But the grays are
very old. They've been here for a very very long time. And as
you know as well as I do, is that the phenomena has morphed.
It's changed now. It almost seems, you know, I'm getting a picture
of the matrix. But I think I think more so Avatar, where there's
this world that exists that they're not a part of and they want to assimilate
and get within that world. How do we do it? We need to
have a you know, we can do it consciously. Heck, it's almost
like if you if you track, if you hack the psychedelic trance state,
and our spirits go there, but we're snatched back, we come back here.
How do we stay there? Well, we need to become one of
them. Yes, the grades need they need to have bodies. Whether they're
putting their spirits within these humans as well, maybe they just need to shell
and they put a soul, their soul. That is very ancient. This
is where it gets into the demon stuff. I mean, you know Genesis
six and Nephilum, and there's here about that. Oh yeah, that's why.
I think that's why that theory sticks so much for a lot of people.
The Genesis six and fallen angels needed bodies and all of this kind of
stuff. And it almost seems there is a theory that that I've heard and
have believed for some time that that could be true, that that the Grays
have that the Grays are these meat suits, these robots, if you will,
like you said, but they have created these suits that they have put
their spirits, and now they can animate this body that somebody has created for
them, whether it is humans, the government absolutely created this, or this
could have been something that evolution that they have learned to do and and and
and you know, manipulate particles and matters to such a small level, so
they were able to create it. And now they're here. Now they're flying
around our skies maybe or in and out of these dimensions that they've learned to
travel. There's so much. There's so much to it, and and that's
why the people get with the demon thing. I'm really not with with the
demon scenario. But at the same time, is this manevolent because if you're
let's just say that there is something that they're their species is becoming extinct and
they or they have found a realm that they have not they're not priven to
yet unless they have a body. I mean, we would do and are
doing the same thing. If it's technology, how do we exist within this
tech technological world where we need to create the technology to do it and and
harvest you know, there's all kinds of stuff going on. So is it
necessarily manevolent because they're doing this this program? I think from our perspective,
Yes, the way that we view things. Now, let me give you
another example. You, as I see it, are a natural process of
soul integration. You've come through the womb the correct channel. You had a
mother, and you a mother, and you when you depart this plane,
your soul turns back to source. But what if I cloned you in a
laboratory. Now, let's just take this question one step further. Let's say
I cloned you ten times. You when you pass over, not for a
very long time. When you pass over, your consciousness will return to that
realm. The question of the clones will only have the memory of one single
imprint, of one recording, and therefore, when the physical copy dies,
is it conceivable to assume that that spark of awareness that is not matched by
the strength of your soul is lost in limbo? And that if a species
has cloned itself to the point of exhaustion, it does not understand or cannot
gain access back to what we call create. And there they have found a
world that reproduces. And it's possible that they are trying to understand themselves more
through us, or trying to fill in those missing gaps as it were,
so you know, perhaps from their side it could be desperation, and because
a lot of what they achieve certainly links into elements of the paranormal, because
it's like chasing shadows. These things have even been photographed within the ether.
And there are always two aspects to us, one physical one not non physical,
the same with your mobile phone and signals. So we have to be
very careful, and as I said before, I'm very open to all forms
of speculation. I will not pigeonhole myself and restrict myself. The other thing
is that, interestingly is that as a conscious entity as we are, the
brain is the instrument that allows consciousness to fill through to this form memory,
sold whatever you want to call it. But most people are operating on a
narrow field of conscious awareness, and it's possible that the Grace themselves has found
entry into within our realm through consciousness. You know, we have to think
about that because you know, the brain is, after all, is incredible
organism, and more times than not it's shut down through fear or mental subjugation
on some level or control. But certainly, I think like astronauts that go
out into space because they're removed from their normal processing of time, they feel
changed. And I think that when people have what they call an abduction,
they feel changed as well, and this may account for the periods of missing
time where memory recall is very difficult. You know, one thing I always
have to bring up is the fact that you don't really hear the term abduction
anymore. I don't. I'm not interviewing a lot of people who are saying
that they're having has happened to them. Now, most people when it comes
to UFOs and aliens, for the most part, at least from my perspective,
have you know, they call themselves contactees and experiencers and they love it.
I mean, there's even the CE five initiative where they're trying to go
out and make contact for themselves to figure out what's going on, from moving
from being an armchair investigator to instead of them contacting me, the CE five
is me going out and contacting them under the night sky. I've had my
fair share of CE five experiences by myself with groups of people, had amazing
experiences out of this world. But when it comes to the abduction term,
a lot of people have said that the abduction in the grades that's kind of
been taboo and off limits now and that has been phased out over the years.
I mean, how would you respond to that? Is that something that's
still happening, because obviously from you know, I guess we would go back
to the you know, late forties to I would say nineties. There in
the two thousands, late two thousands, I feel like it started to go
downhill. You don't hear much about it anymore. What is your response to
that? Well, it's interesting and I and my brother and a friend of
mine, Susan, had performed a CE five experiment all the way back on
the eighth of June nineteen ninety eight at Relasion Forest in Suffolk, and we
actually, I mean people say I don't believe it, I don't want,
I don't care. We actually, through our wishing or wanting, had viewed
a spectacular craft that was triangular with a gap in a circle undercarriage beneath it.
It was silent and it was like a clock, one moving one way
or the other moving the other. And as I ran towards it, it's
a long story, but it disappeared like someone switching the lights out. So
I do understand. We were performing experiments at C five and I do acknowledge
that there are good entities. There are angels, spirit GUIDs, whatever you
want to call them. Angels are different from spiritual eyes obviously, but certainly
I think that the application of consciousness is very interesting and how we may be
able to draw in these different levels of reality through a process of sending signals
out and getting them back but not quite how we thought they would come back.
So we're studying the application of consciousness and it is a real phenomena.
It is not something that is just whimsical. It is real. But I
think that because we are separated from that vibrational level of integration, that's why
it comes in very briefly and then goes out again, because we're not matched
by the same density they graze themselves. Yes, there haven't been as many
reports of abductions. I totally agree with you, And I also sway also
to the side of the experiences. You know, people tend to put people
in pigeonholes. I was there myself. I was put in a pigeon hole
myself, so I understand and empathize with that completely. So we've got to
be careful when we're looking at the subject because it shows that the phenomena is
evolving, and perhaps it's meant to evolve us, it's meant to move us
forward into some type of transgressional stage of spirituality, if I use that word.
But we can see certainly that there's been a lot of changes since the
forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties and into the two
thousands, so it has morphed. And of course we as we all know
as research as the phenomena is also morphed. So it feels like it's always
one step ahead of us. And you know, you'll have the division,
of course you will. You'll have the negativity, of course you will.
But I embrace that because I understand, now, what is the deception part
of your work? What like, how are we being deceived? Is the
government hiding this from us? How are the how is the population and being
this? When it comes to ufhali UFOs in the Grace, well, that
all goes back to nineteen forty seven with as everyone knows, the most famous
UFO case of all time, and people roll their eyes up, thinking,
oh, well, let's just ask two questions about that. First of all,
and this was the inception of what we call conspiracy because if the object
had been a secret mogul weather balloon, as was the new terminology some years
later, retracting from the balloon hypothesis, then why weren't the military themselves watching
it? If it was so top secret, why did they just forget about
it? And then some rancher, a wonderful ranch of mac Brazil, happened
to stumble upon the debris. And if it was that top secret, why
would you then place fragments of this secret weather balloon on the front page of
national newspapers? You know, it didn't make any sense. And we know
at that point that the birthing of conspiracy had started. It wasn't the beginning
of the UFO sightings, know, there were many, many more before that.
But I think something unusual happened where such entities have perhaps become into our
realities, solidified, you know, and the rest is history. But the
people behind it, I don't think a government. I think the governments tend
our governments, well governments, your governments are governments or governments their puppets,
you know, they come and go. So I believe that the secrets are
being held by a very small unit. Clandensteine unit within the military establishment who
perhaps themselves don't understand all of it, and you know, usually plant disinformation
into the media circuits to sway researchers. But was also interesting is that I
believe that these people, nameless, faceless bureaucrats, are also very interested in
researchers and what they're bringing to the table to see what they know. So
it's clear within its inception that they themselves don't have all the answers. But
there again, if it was, you know, proven that there were such
things as aliens and UFOs, how then would they be able to explain this
to the public. They couldn't even if you said, we have UFOs and
we have aliens, we have their technology, you know, we have so
we've had surviving members that have infiltrated this plane of reality, whatever form they
come in. How then are you going to explain that to the public,
especially where the abduction phenomena is concerned. And I believe that, you know,
this is why it's not as simple as that you just have to mention
on the national users. There's a water shortage or a food shortage or a
fuel shortage, and you've got Mayhem. So God helped you know everyone if
they don't understand, because if it's coming from an official capacity, this will
shake the very foundation. Of course, we've got some proof already coming forward
from the Navy, as you know. But it comes in and goes out,
it dies. It's not something that makes the national real national news.
There it is, ladies and gentlemen, here it is. It's it's almost
done quite in a very teaching way, as it were, you know,
a teasing way, and left for you to sort it out, and then
no more is said about it. So I don't think we're anywhere near to
disclosure just yet. I think all of the good souls like yourself, many
other people who are doing the amazing work and following your belief system and what
you believe, which is very important. I think that that's good for you
guys, all of us, because we're happy doing that. But I think
on a major skull, no, we'll have a real problem on our hands,
especially where religion is concerned, because that will throw there certainly a lot
into the apple cart. Yeah. I mean, I think the Pope,
even several years ago, you know, I guess bracing for disclosure, said
if they are real, there are space brothers and we need to evangelize them
and different things like that. And you know, and that's one thing that
Philip Mantle was talking about, just knowing that I was a believer, so
he was, okay, so you judge this as a you know that that
that there is a god consciousness and all of this. It's it sets up
the way that you believe in the way that you interpret and uh, and
we read into things. We you know, we there's this we try to
look for for experiences scenarios that fit our biases or confirm our beliefs, you
know, even though that that they may not be true, may not be
real. That's just what we do as end of it. I think all
of us do that, but to look at the information for what it is
if even if it contradicts hell, most of it does. Yes. The
interesting thing again for me is with the CE five initiatives and people going out
making their own contact and so and it seems like it'd be something that you
would want to take to the next level because you can because I don't believe
that disclosure is gonna come from the government. If it does, I'm going
to believe the exact opposite of whatever they tell us it is, and most
likely they're going to tell us that their enemies or something like that, or
we're under attack. For me, I think that whether they're the grades or
what type of beings, maybe even the Anunaki, some would say that the
Grays were these gods that created created us. Yes, they're coming back and
working on us and even upgrading our DNA. Hell, this vaccine is a
so called upgrade to your DNA. You know, it's it gets very tricky,
but I feel like they have been here since the beginning, since we
were primitive, and bring out what the wheel was and what fire was,
and they've had this advanced technology and they've been in the underground oceans and in
caves and in mountains some very strange things that they're able to buy locate.
But the spirituality for me, plays a big role into it. Like you
were saying talking about the telepathic communication, and that has been something that I
have experienced on several occasions of having a citing something told me, hey,
look over there, there's gonna be a UFO and it told me that I
looked, boom, there it is and there was a jet flying across the
sky, and it told me that the jet is flying over here to make
me leave my position. They're gonna they're trying to, you know, get
me to leave so people won't see me. And as soon as I seen
it, it was during the day, it and as soon as I've seen
the jet headed right towards it, it just vanished. And it like they
wait until you acknowledge them, and they know that they know that you see
them, they say hello, and they disappear. A lot of people would
say that this is the government, like all of the UFO stuff is the
government, But when it comes to the telepathic communication, that's where like it
those were meant in the government stuff for me because it is a spiritual connection
like of course. But then they'll tell you that the government has technology where
they can plant dots in your mind. Well you know this is yeah,
this is very dangerous territory. But you will know you as the individual,
conscious awareness yourself will know what you are picking up what Okay, you don't
have all the answers, but you feel it inside. And certainly, going
back to your very interesting point, I have always believed that our species had
derived from dare I said again extraterrestrial intervention, because you just have to look
around and see that we are so weak. We're not adapted to this plane
of reality because we shy from our own son. We don't have enough hair
on our body to protect us from the heat. We're very weak. I
do believe that a part of the hominid was used to fashion the Adom as
it were, and thus the creation process started. But I always have this
romanticized version that the gods then were very different. They were more like us,
I suppose, and I believe that the Grays could perhaps been a part
of them, or a faction of them. We don't know, We can
only speculate, but they do come across as like fallen angels, you know,
so they haven't done themselves much favors that they want to reach out that
hand for complete brotherhood. But I also completely believe in higher beings, because
we're not just talking about the Grays here. There are other interdimensionals of reality,
and I've had my fair share of those experiences, very enlightening experiences.
They have not all been negative. So perhaps our understanding of the way that
we try to break it down on a personal level, we can be,
you know, completely wrong about the whole thing. So we have to be
very careful, but certainly it makes me laugh the CE five and I love
it. But we had done that back in nineteen nine, not even realizing
that's what it's called today. Well, I know what CU five is for
today, but never knowing that that would be something that people would be doing
on a larger scull because people looked at you back then as if you were
lying, or you're completely you're gone round the bend. But it's so refreshing
and interesting from my perspective that all those years ago that you know, it
makes me smile. People say, bring me the proof, where's the proof.
Well, we did this experiment with no cameras and I don't care.
It doesn't bother me. It was a personal thing that both myself and my
brother and Susan back in nineteen ninety eight, eighth of June had witnessed and
there was a latest one ninth of April two thousand and sixteen, our last
sighting of three enormous spherical crafts that have been filmed by my niece and one
their way and hung above my number my brother's head when we were coming back
from a late night meal with friends, and that's been recorded and so whatever
proof you bring to the tape or people say, oh, I still don't
believe. I mean if even if Jesus Christ stepped off a craft or let's
stone him before I even a chance to speak, you know, I think
we'll get thumbs down. I just told you, if the president comes and
tell me, tells me what it is, I'm not going to believe.
In No, I already will, but I've just told you I'm not going
to be you know, Oh it's very complex, and you know we have
to be very also respectful because you know, I don't have all the answers.
I only have a bunch of theories like many other people. And what's
what's also damaging to my credibility is the fact that I proclaim to many that
I have had what they call an abduction and being constant witness to UFOs SO
as a researcher and as also as an abductee's stroke experiencer. It kind of
like doesn't put you in good life. But I always say to my comrades
that you know, it's okay. We form a bond and a trust and
integrity and that's what we work with and we're just trying to find the truth.
That's what we're after. And you just put the information out there and
you look at it and find the peace to the puzzle, and eventually it
formulates a picture. And there's many different sides of course, Oh yes,
oh yes, absolutely, and we have to respect that because you know,
we don't want to damage someone's belief system, which is very, very destructive
to the individual. And it is a process of belief also that shapes our
reality as individuals. On a larger scale or a larger picture, there is
a much bigger force operating beyond this level of reality, I can tell you
and you know that as well, and it guides us or we felt sometimes
guided by this great power, this force that is so amazing and so oh,
I can't find the words majestic that it makes us want to be part
of that love, that unity, that intelligence of greatness and wisdom and love
and strength and power and all these things. So you know, we're still
looking into those areas and we probably will be for a very very long time.
Yeah, it's there's exploration, there's beauty, there's creativity. Yes,
there's imagination, there's all there's wonder. I mean, for me, the
CE five or any of the any supernatural phenomenon really, but CE five is
one that I believe is, you know that you can recreate Terence mckinna,
you know, the famous psycho Nat said, he's you know, going in
on psilocybin and DMT and magic mushrooms. And he would go into the other
realms and communicate with entities, yes, tell them the machine elves, and
these elves would communicate with them and tell them things about reality and how things
work. And he would try to hold onto something and bring it back and
write it down, and he would just stay in this He's going into this
other realm, you know. And so the Shamans did the same. The
Shamans did the same. They do perform these initiations to deliberately force the soul,
the consciousness, away from the physical body to enter these spheres. But
we live in a system unfortunately, that is telling us that certain things are
not right, only because it wants control and order, and it turns everything
round to make it look like you're a bad person, or go and buy
that lovely, great big, you know, range rover, and then you
get slapped on the hand for being a gas guzzler. So my argument is
they give it in one hand and slap it in the other. You find
your happy medium and what works for you to find your answers. As long
as it's not harming anyone else, and you're not really harming yourself at all,
then go for it. I always say, you know, just you
know, it's your journey. Everyone's too quick to point the finger and put
you in a little box and tell you that you're wrong and bring you down.
No, no, no, no, no no, That's not the
way that we see things around here, especially where this subject matter is concerned.
Yeah, speaking about the demons again, you know, the angels and
demons and that whole thing. One is the things that I think that many
religious people get wrong or they mixed the two together, is because we're you
know, you mentioned fairies that your grandmother said. It could have been fairies
that were coming to visit or whatever. Like, I feel like there's a
lot of different entities that there are what we call angels, there are what
we would call us oh yes, yes, all types of entities. So
I really do feel like the Christian or the religious people are maybe having these
encounters with demons with lower level entities and tying it into euthology and just because
they had a being appear in their room and paralyze them and scare them or
whatever they did, a ghost, whatever it could have been anything. I
feel like a lot of people are reading into and saying that it was an
alien, that these are aliens, that these were grays or or whatever.
These these malicious uh, these beings with a malicious intent were aliens, and
I feel like they're you know, I feel like it's an easy way out
versus saying that there are multiple things that they could lead. Yes, yes,
there are multiples of dimensions of awareness. You know, we see things
in a flat way in a flat like a flat line, and we're cut
off from the other dimensions through the infrared spectrum. And there probably are,
you know, an eternal amount of other realities that coexist or we can connect
with on a unique in unique ways as it were, so you know,
clairvoyance, remote viewing, healing, astral travel, shamanic experiences. It goes
on and on, but I respect every single one of them because it's showing
us more about consciousness, the soul, creation, and our part as individuals
within this grand scheme of life. And I believe that the system that we
serve has deliberately hampered our ability to think outside the box and program us on
a very limited version of reality, saying that is right, that is wrong.
Don't look into the past, because this is how it happened, and
we're finding now that this is all wrong. So in the future we will
have a new science of the mind, and I believe that there will be
centers where people can you know, just about do what they want, whether
it be astral travel or remote viewing or shamanic experiences. You know, I
think they're all amazing and they're wonderful. So you know, I always laugh
and joke with people and say, well, I'm always up for it.
You know, you've got to have a sense of humor. Yeah, oh,
you definitely do. You definitely do. But it you know that there's
any end. You have more questions. And I've had, oh listen,
I've had a lot of experiences. I've had, you know, facilitated experiences
that it would definitely seem like I was making it up, like because people
go through life and they never have any and then here's here's myself and many
of the individuals who have had many more than one repeatable that you go out
and you look for them and they happen. You ask for it, and
it shows up in the way of consciousness and in the evolution of consciousness and
what you're expecting shows itself to you. It is very interesting as well.
But you know you have youthhology, aliens, angels, all of those things.
Yes, this is it sholf to you, like even if it's real,
just to you. That's the interesting thing. Like, because I wanted
to ask you, because we're talking about consciousness. We're talking about beings that
are able to create or or you know, take away matter, pull you
out of your spirit, maybe even create if they are creators, Like what
about the connection that we have with them or just the way the mind and
spirituality works. Is that like almost like not the law of attraction, but
if you believe it, you created it, Like what if that you know
that that the cf ive initiative that you went out there, you wanted it
so bad that it appeared. And there's there's definitely done studies where other people
were able to you know, imagine certain things happening, and the law of
attraction and manifestation and all this stuff. Sometimes it takes time, maybe something
that's going on with the consciousness. But in any of the c fave stuff,
it's almost not instant, but it's within a few hours maybe that this
you can connect. Yes, I think maybe it didn't exist until you projected
that thought, that this ship or this light came and said hello, Well,
you know, the mind is I said, un consciousness is amazing.
And this may be the actual facilitation of the whole of creation, and that
in this life we walk through one single life here on this planet. We
may go through varied numbers of them. I believe that, but we may
not get the full answers until we ourselves were turned back to source or to
our real place of origin as it were, you know. And it could
be possible that we are projecting this or sending a signal out for it to
come in so that we change or transform on some deeper level of the psyche
of the soul. One of the things I will tell you that through the
main abduction that I had in nineteen eighty nine, one of the characters that
was in it a gray. I seem to recognize him, and it was
very scary, but also yeah, you know, I felt as though they
were old. That's the only way I can explain it. I'm not saying
he looked old, but they felt old. And there is another researcher psa
back, an author who has kind of like put some pieces together with regards
to the abduction that I missed, because if you're honest and completely everything on
the table, he's been able to put a piece to that together. And
I was like wow. And there were also psychic impressions that I had afterwards
that I'm still trying to work out. And I'm not saying that this was
given by the Grays to me, no, but it's possible that these had
come in the form of some conscious opening or awareness that happens to all of
us. So we are looking at multiple dimensional entities realities, and consciousness is
the main component that seems to be responsible for this. Interesting. I agree
with what you say. Are we creating this on a subconscious level ourselves?
And it comes back to us? That has also crossed my mind as also
that you know, we as a genus were created from a blank canvas somewhere,
and perhaps the Grays are trying to remind us, are perhaps of the
dangers that we start to clone people? You know, we don't know,
I'm not going to go too far down that road because I think I may
be falling into some very difficult waters. But certainly the Grays and many other
inter dimensional beings our reality. They come into our reality temporarily because we're not
matched by the same frequencies, so they can only use a certain amount of
time or energy to manifest, and that either we're matched by that density all
day with us, it doesn't matter. There's an integration process, yes,
and it's temporary. It's temporary, but I believe that's something that's really incredible
and something that we're still looking into researching. So you know, a lot
of these things are in you the public deceive the Grand Euifo deception along with
some amazing accounts as well, and Philip Mantle UFO Royalty we call them over
here in England has been enormous help and it's good that we bash out all
our thoughts and ideas. But you'll still get people saying, well, you're
wrong or you're barking up the wrong tree. And that's fine. I've got
past that point of feeling hurt from the general public, from people who attack
you through you know, media means, and it's like, it's okay,
I understand because you don't understand that, and I really respect that now,
so it's okay. People say, I don't believe you're saying, Well,
that's great, you know, seeing what I've seen. If you were there
in nineteen ninety four, you might have a different experience. Yeah, And
there's a level of respect. And the interesting thing for me now and I
noticed it's coming from religion of being one who used to proselytize and try to
convince people of my way of thinking and the way of living and stuff.
Now I'm not really into that anymore. But I do still have a message.
I still have ideas that I'm trying to get out. But I don't
care if you believe them or not. You know, I'm just sharing them.
It's a beautiful thing now because people find you don't even I'm not trying
to. Hey, check out my show like every now and then. But
for the most part, listen if you want, If you the Google,
if you look up, if you're interested in uthology and you're interested in all
of the topics that we cover, the topics that you cover, people are
gonna find you. You don't have to go out there and sell yourself and
try to get the world to believe that this is what's going on. Listen,
here is my research, and it's and it's there. And because of
the Internet, now we just have people from all over the world who resonate
with your work, who are who are interested in what you've devoted your life
to and then they just come along and and they learn and they share and
all of that. And so that is is so amazing now that we don't
have to really care what people think. You're gonna have people who are gonna
scoff, but there's other people say, hey, your work has changed my
life and I've had Yeah, that's wonderful. And you know what I always
say to them. If they don't, I say, let me see if
I can try and find the zip and pull the mask off. They look
at you as if you saying, oh, it's a joke. You know,
I've got a wicked sense of human and you need that because you know,
in a lot of the real tough work that we're challenged with with regards
to the research and applying the theoretical models that we do is fascinating. And
I will continue to do that until the last breath. That I take on
this planet that we call Earth. But it is interesting, and I love
the people that I connect with very much, you know, very grateful to
them, and you know, you can only do what you can do.
But it's really strange because through all the years and years and years that I've
been seeking for that truth, and then you know, trying to get published
by publishers, and then getting published by publishers and going forward and then losing
the publishers because they pass, and finding Philip and other people. It's a
journey. And I'm more than happy to put into the lap of the younger
generation what we know because you are the mental, You carry the mental,
you carry the light because you're going to be here for a long time when
most of us people have left departed, you see, And well, but
we'll have we may have the answers then them. Yeah, I mean,
I love you know. I dedicate my work to too many researchers, and
I do music. I put a lot of my US experiences in my in
my spirituality within my music, and I dedicate the albums to these researchers who
have who are along gone. And the interesting thing when we do our research
on that there there were a lot of people who had a lot to say
in the past, uh that we can we can draw from whether it is
you know, ufology, spirituality, all of it. And so I definitely
like to echo and turn new people onto a lot of old work that we
don't have to recreate the wheel when it comes to a lot of this either.
So it's really brilliant. Thanks for coming on, man, I really
enjoyed this talk. Let people know where they can go to check out your
your work, your books and everything that you're bringing to the table. What's
the best place for people to go to check out your work? Well,
amaz and you know that it's the normal place. We all know Amazon,
it's the safest place and at least we as authors know we get paid for
them as like the other publish And I'm on Facebook and you know, you
just type in my name and you know there we are. But I want
to thank you because we're all important, we're all special. No one you
know, no one's the number one. We are all linked together. And
I think that's the important message to tell everyone that keep doing your own research
and believe in what you believe, what it makes you feel right for you.
So don't change for anyone. But I want to thank you certainly for
having me on your most excellent show, and I'm always very grateful. I
never seek it, but I'm more than happy to talk if people want to
talk to me for sure. Thank you so much. Philip really enjoyed it.
Man, Let's do it again. God bless take care, God bless
me. Bye bye, Philip Cansello. Ladies and gentlemen, good talk.
Listen. A lot of different opinions. I'm watching the chat, a lot
of different opinions, a lot of different belief systems when it comes to all
of this stuff, and what if they're all true? Again the consciousness thing.
What if what you believe shows itself to you. So there's people who
would say that these are demons, and you know, what if that is
your truth? What if demons are showing themselves to you? What if they
are appearing to you? But what if they are angels? What if it
is the angelic? What if it is what some would say, Well,
they say that they are us from the future. That is, it is
us that is highly evolved coming back to say hello to ourselves as in us,
maybe not you, but maybe humans who have evolved millions of years later
coming back say hello, what if they're just people from other star systems,
other dimensions. That was the thing with the interdimensionals what he kept saying.
And there's a lot of people who definitely use that term interdimensional that you know.
Obviously the flat earthers use that term because they say space isn't real,
Space doesn't exist, it's it's not what we think it is. So there
is no entities living on other planets or traveling from star systems, but they
are interdimensional beings that travel here. The avatar thing is very interesting that we
have the ability to go into other realms that we need a suit. You
guys remember the movie Avatar, right where they had to create this character to
go in, but it wasn't really another realm. Maybe then when we get
into technology, it's like the lawnmower man. I mean Facebook, YouTube personas
that you create a version of you that exists in another realm and technology,
Facebook and all this stuff. This is the Internet. This is a persona,
it's you exist as that avatar. I mean, it definitely happens within
technology. There are games called second life, you know, there are games
that people play that are really popular. Second Life is a big one where
people will create an avatar, a character of themselves, and they can rename
it, they can make it look however they want, and they can project
themselves in that game and live as that character and talk to the AI,
talk to the NPCs, the non playable characters, have dialogue all that stuff,
and then other people can drop into that realm as well, like other
real people can create their character and then they do stuff. There's people who
get jobs on the game, like they have to. Instead of going to
a real job, they log into this game and they go and do a
job for hours on end. Some of them are getting really realistic to like
you're a police officer, you're a construction worker, and literally you go to
these jobs and you generate in come and coins in that game that you can't
spend in this world. Like in your real reality you can't spend that money.
But in that game, you can build a nice house, you can
create a beautiful family. You can have your kids that listen to you and
look up to you and respect you. Whatever that again, you can create
the life that you want within that AI, that realm that is not real,
but it's real to you while you're there, the dream state movies,
all of this stuff. It's very interesting. It is a realm. It's
a member a game called Lord of the Realms, and it was very similar.
You know, you were able to go into the game and have these
people that you made allies with and pacts with, and every time you go
back into that game, you get to say hello. There's tons of movies
based on this stuff. But what about again, the Terrence McKenna who goes
into the monic realm of psilocybin and ayahuasca and all of this stuff DMNT and
they're revisiting friends, They're seeing people in this other realm that they get to
say hello to. What about when you sleep? Have you, guys,
ever had that experience, like when you go to sleep and you dream,
y'all ever been to a place that's familiar? Do you have friends? What
about friends when you dream? Like people who show up to you and they're
your friends and you don't know them in real life, but in the dream
you know them. And you've had multiple dreams where that person keeps showing up.
You have a friend in their dream state. It gets deep. I
don't know how uneth i don't even know that it's unethical that if we look
at it, you have to put you have to walk a mile in their
shoes. I don't know how unethical it would be for the abduction stuff to
really even be happening if you wanted to. There are other realms that exist.
They don't speak most of them don't speak English. But I guess the
more we would say advanced species of aliens communicate telepathically. They communicate without words,
some communicate sign language, pictographs, There's different ways that they communicate.
It's interesting to think about. It's just like an ant. How would you
essentially an ant lives and they have their own world an ant has. You
can't speak English to an ant and train it and it knows what you're saying.
Again, Philip was even talking about this. If we drop our cell
phones in an ant pile and the ants build around it, they don't even
know how to work this technology. Probably even in a million years, ten
million years, they wouldn't. Most likely they could not evolve to the fact
that they were able to even power this thing on and get in here and
pull up my Facebook and message my stalkers. Like it's just foreign to them.
They couldn't use it. They can't. You can't communicate with them.
They exist, and that's something physical. I guess that's a physical too,
because I always like to tie in the spirituality, the spirit realm too,
the biological realm, in the microscopic realm. The microscopic organisms that live on
your body. You can't talk to them. Hey man, stop, you
know they're literally fighting one another right now. Like if we go get soap
and wash your hands or take medicine. There's just wars and battles going on
on your body with living organisms that live on you, living your hair.
You know, they live all over your body and they're living there. You
can't communicate with them. You can't talk to them. They can affect you,
though, So how would you do it? Like, how could you
like to communicate with them? Very interesting to watch those videos of the microscopic
organisms fighting one another. There'll be like these little amiebas or whatever, and
another one will come and he's doing he's going around eating these little little pieces
of trash or something. I don't know what they're eating. It's very interesting.
It's a world within a world that's happening on you. They go around
and eat these little like pac Man, just eating these little pieces of trash,
and a big one will come up and just eat him, and he
digests them and it becomes a part of him. It's crazy, gut rot,
gut bacteria, your gut biome, that all of this stuff is communicating
and becoming a part of you. Rat masters saying, yeah, you gotta
eat healthy, yeah, because that just like that organism eats another organism and
it becomes a part of them. Whatever you eat becomes a part of you.
We're getting deep going from one subject to the next. But you see
how it's all connected. But how do you communicate with those entities. You
have to become that entity. You have to become a multicell organism and shrink
down to their level. I mean. It just even ties into religion with
Jesus, as people believe that Jesus is God, that God's trying to communicate
with us and we can't hear them. He created us, but we don't
listen. So he had to become one of us and walk down here with
us to communicate, and we killed them. Live right, love one another,
stand up for the broken, feed the hungry, and they kill them.
So God left his throne, his dimension and incarnated as an avatar into
our dimension so that he can talk to us, so that he can lead
and guide and help, and they kill him. What else is like?
What's the difference with the alien scenario? If we if most people say it's
likely we already have have alien technology or crashed UFO, we're doing experiments on
them. We do it on monkeys, we do it on animals. We're
doing it. Government is definitely running tests on these beings and chaining them up
and put them in cages. So why would they not do it to us
to run testing experiments on us? Come down an experiment and see what makes
us tick? What makes us scared? Yeah? Show them images of war,
See what happens, Show them their planet exploding. See how they feel.
Are they moved with empathy? They can read your org filled and your
emotions. Man, Some of them react this way. Others don't care.
Some people like it. Some people like it. When the plant we show
them a image of their planet being destroyed, and they like it. They
hate people they like it, and so like we're getting it. I don't
think that from your perspective, it was unpleasant. You didn't like it,
I was taken out of my bed and brought on this ship, and they'd
done these tests on me. Look at it. You have to look at
it from your always have to put the shoe on the other foot. You
have to put yourself in their shoes and see what's going on. Because I
think that it's bigger than just us and the UFO phenomena, alien abduction scenarios
and all of that. Very interesting, very near and dear to my heart.
I have a different relationship with a lot of that. Now. It
started out with evil aliens, evil angels, demons, all that kind of
stuff, but it progressed into the angelic put Palladians. You know what I'm
saying. Beings of light love and eviborate at a higher frequency. You do
have falling entities. Fallen angels are real, but I don't think that they're
riding around in spacecraft that they created. Put it that way. Fallen angels
are real. How did they fall? If you've read my book, you
know where I'm going. But they were kicked out of heaven. It doesn't
take too much research to look up and see what heaven is. Heaven is
the sky. When you look up at the clouds and the stars and the
sun and the moon. You're looking and you're gazing into the heavens. It's
the same words that she use there in the Greek and the Hebrew. Heaven
is the sky when you do the research, and then these these angels were
kicked out of heaven. If you're kicked out, you don't get to just
fly back to heaven when you create a spacecraft and fly through the skies.
They're here on the earth with people. They're here with us. They're not
up there. Beauty, benevolence or wonder, creativity, guidance, all of
that. It's from above. If you listen to my music, you know
that's a big part of it. So yeah, I'm big into it.
Man. Thank y'all for hanging out. Thank you for hanging out. I
had a TikTok video that is very interesting. That TikTok video went kind of
went viral overnight. It's interesting that I'll put the same video on all the
platforms Instagram, YouTube, Facebook. I get twenty views, thirty views,
one hundred and eighteen views on on YouTube. You know, we did the
thing where we went out and gave a guy outside the road who was in
a wheelchair selling candies and cokes and stuff. We gave him five hundred dollars,
but that was donated from other people. I didn't give him my money.
Other people donated so that we can do that. We've done two videos
already and they get thirty views, forty views, you know. But I
put it on TikTok last night. Let me look and see how many views
it is. I'm saying that because I want you to follow me on TikTok.
I'm probably about to start using it more definitely has more organic reach,
and it's pretty fun. But I'm gonna try to look at how many I
put a video up yesterday. Let's see, and it is at fifty thousand
views. That's not going to focus. But fifty thousand views. I made
a one minute snippet out of a ten minute video. Very hard to do,
but yeah, follow me on there. It's kind of blown up.
Pretty cool, more reach. It's so weird to me because I haven't had
a lot of like easy organic reach in years. I used to definitely in
the early days of YouTube and Facebook and all that. When you when you
like when you built up your page and built up your audience and you put
something out, it would let every everybody see it. They don't do that
anymore. I get thirty views, you know, So it's very strange to
have put something out that goes viral. I used to All of my podcasts
used to be super viral on YouTube. Like I said, I've been doing
this for a long time. Now everybody has a podcast. But I remember
putting putting out YouTube videos and live streams and all that, and I get
fifty sixty thousand views on whack content Like it wasn't that quality was real bad,
all of that stuff. But it's real. But it's went down over
time. It's more crowded, right. The everyone's a creator. Everyone's doing
the same stuff you're doing now. So to be a pioneer doing that stuff
early on, it's changed over the years. So I don't get a lot
of viral videos anymore, you know. I So to see that video overnight
blow up to fifty thousand views, it's pretty cool. Follow me on TikTok.
I may do something on there. It's pretty creative. TikTok guide us
through the pandemic, man, it's getting us through the pandemic. TikTok is
TikTok made us all laugh, made us all focus our attention on other stuff
when they're trying to scare us on the television and scare us with the news
and millions are gonna die, Millions upon millions are going to die, and
they got us all scared. Man, turned the TV off and put on
TikTok. Man, let's just scroll and laugh and look at funny cat videos
and parents pulling pranks on their kids and stuff. I'm telling you, TikTok
guide us through the pandemic, and it's getting us through the pandemic. Follow
me on TikTok. That's the platform typing truth seeker on TikTok. You'll love
it. I'm trying to get creative with it. I have a bunch of
my songs on there where I just I go back and forth rap a couple
of bars and other people are duetting it and finishing the lyrics or whatever,
like rapping my songs with me. It's pretty cool. So you can do
it videos and do that a bunch of really cool stuff, inspirational stuff.
We're gonna keep doing it too, And so if anybody wants to give,
because we're gonna create more videos. We've already got people continuing to give.
I did one I wanted to do it, asked for a donation. We
went out and did the homeless video. We gave this dude. We spent
a thousand dollars on a random homeless guy. I put it out there.
I wanted to do it. Everybody donated. We made a thousand bucks and
I went out and we wined and dined them, took him out to eat,
took him to Walmart, Hey, buy whatever you want. He was
just traveling through. He was just on the road walking. Hey you need
a ride. Boom, yeah, jumped in. That's a long video too.
I'm gonna turn that into a short clip too. You know, people's
attention spans are short. They ain't got time to get to the juice or
to meet the juicy part or the meat and potatoes. They just want it
there. So boom, I'm gonna end edit that ten minute video or twenty
minute video into a one minute video and make a little highlight reel. It's
very hard to do, but I'm gonna do that. So the full videos
are up. You can watch them on YouTube if you want to watch the
full videos, but if not, you can watch the little one one minute
clips too. So we've done too so far. We're gonna do more.
Are people are giving, people are donating to this cause. If you want
to do it my cash app, go to my cash app on my Venmo,
but follow me on those other platforms too. So we're gonna do more
videos. Like I had somebody donating a large, large amount. They want
to be with me when I shoot it. So we're just gonna go out
helping people. Man, making it famous. Man, you know what I'm
saying, Doing videos that inspire people to do good works. People. Oh
well, you gotta film it because y'all filming. They got a video went
viral this week. It's the dude's slapping another guy with like a a t
y'all see that video, right, The guy's calling them the N word,
the bag and to do grabs a can of tea and millions upon millions upon
millions of views. Funny, he got what was coming to him. And
there's a bunch of other videos of people doing negative stuff that gets viral that
goes famous. Challenges the condom challenge you ever heard of that that was viral
for a little while. Kids were doing it. What is it? Take
the condom, snort it up your nose, reach in your mouth, and
pull it out your mouth. These were challenges that got real popular that went
viral. Stupid stuff. The knockout challenge? Where was that? Find a
random person, walk up behind him, hit him as hard as you can,
somebody you don't know, and try to knock him out. They were
doing it to old people, young thugs going up behind old people knocking them
out for no reason. Knockout challenge went viral. Guess what we're going to
do, beautiful challenges. We're going to make, you know, inspirational videos
and make that go viral. We should be doing it, whether recording it
or not. So the Twisted Tea. So do Oculus Virgins? What is
that? Is that people for the first time playing Is that what you mean,
Chris? The Oculus Virgins like the first time they play Oculus. Yeah,
So if y'all seen that, that's on I need to put it on
TikTok. It's not on TikTok. But my buddy Phil came over the other
day and let me see, I probably show this to you guys. If
you're listening to the podcast app, which most people are listening on the podcast.
You're not gonna be able to see this, but let me see if
I can show this on the video if that's what you meant by Oculus Virgins.
First time playing Oculus? What is this called? I gotta fix this
stuff me and web. That's not the screen. It's gonna be the other
one. So sorry for this, guys. There's zoom so that's me.
I'm fix this real quick on stream. Try to anyway. Boom oh that
should be it. Yeah, okay for those of you who are listening,
you're not really getting to see much but or hear much. But I'm gonna
show you this video, he said, Oculus version. So this is my
I did one with my wife, but my buddy Phil came over I think
the day after Christmas or Christmas Eve or something. Let me see if I
can find it. It's my Facebook page. If you're not following me,
follow me on Facebook. Right here. This is my buddy Phil. Let
me see. I have to change here. Were hold on, don't hit
me? Feel whoop his butt? Phil? Grab something at the bar.
You gotta get him off of your first day. Go hit him in the
job ooh he duck, oh, guide him Phil, Grab something at the
bar. Pick it up. Wait, wait, grab something at the bar.
Phil They coming, they coming, They're coming for you. A big
dude. All he's gonna be hard. Is that what you're talking about,
Because I'll let him play this. This is this first time. And then
I have one called Richie's Plank Experience experience or something, and you getting the
elevator and I put I turned it on for him and uh, and he
didn't know what it was. And I turned it on and I told him
to get in the elevator. So he gets in an elevator. I said,
push it a little button right there, go up to the top floor.
So he pushes the button and he's in the oculus or whatever, and
it takes him to the top floor. And then the elevator opens up,
chi ching and it gets out and he's like way up in this on the
skyscraper, looking down like he's been in the fall. I was like,
and there's a little bitty plank out in front of him. I said,
get out, get out, and get out and walk across the plane.
He said no, wait. I try to grab his shirt and pull him.
He's like a lot of people fall down and do a little funny stuff
their first time playing. It's a trip. So anyway, I a little
fun stuff like that. If you don't follow me on TikTok, I'll probably
be doing a lot more stuff on there because I'm getting more reach. We
do these video and stuff when we get one hundred views. Man, you
know what I'm saying and freaking getting fifty thousand views on TikTok. The algorithms,
man, they're suppressing a lot of this stuff. Most of myself won't
even show up in Google. If you look at a lot of my songs,
if you try to find a music video, you can't find them.
If you try to find like, you could type in my name and the
name of the song, it won't even bring it up. It'll bring you
something by Blake Shelton. What the heck you type in true Seek a fly
to the navigator and it pulls up Blake Shelton Friday Night Lights, something like
what the hell? Nobody listen SEO. All of this stuff should work up
if you're looking for it. Why would it give you something else besides the
video? It seems to fluctuate. I only think that it is something I've
complained about this a lot. It messes you up. It definitely messes you
up. I do complain about this a lot. It sucks, but it
fluctuates. So let me see if I can show you here. So we're
on my YouTube, and sometimes sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.
So let's just try a couple. Sometimes I'll get on here and it works,
so all of this complaining is in vain. But other times I get
on it and I can't find myself nowhere. So let's just but I have
to search for myself. Let's try a truth seeker flight of the nav I
g e. T or flight as a navigator. Okay, that comes up
now. It used to not come up. I had to keep looking forward.
Let's see truth Seeker hopefully, hopefully they fixed it. Let's see if
what is some more of my songs that I got videos to. Let's see
Golden Teachers boom looking good, looking good, Disciples of the Mysterium, Disciples
of the It's on the official page, so that's working. Let's see.
Uh seems to be working better now, but there was a time where all
of this stuff was hidden. Let's a truth seekod starlight. Huh. That's
great, love it. I'm glad I'm proved wrong at this now, but
there definitely was a time where this stuff wasn't coming up when I typed in
the name of it. I can't hate on that. Can't hate on that,
all right, guys, TC Texas as my brother, I made it.
I love you. What's up? Man? Twitter is getting a lot
worse with the same situation. Illuminus says, yeah, man, my Twitter
game sucks. Always has. I get zero reached on Twitter, never never
gotten anything, even with my Facebook popping, like I've been stuck at like
almost like fifteen point five thousand views and I don't get any new new reach.
I don't get any I don't get anything on That sucks. There was
a time where it was popping. It was popping for sure, reached a
lot of people, But now you gotta pay So with that, I'm gonna
say, peace, y'all really enjoyed this. Y'all have a happy New Year.
Man, stay safe out there, and uh it's gonna be good.
So I'll holler at y'all later. We'll do more. We got more coming,
shaloon. Peace joke so much, so much, so much, so
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