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sell A. Philip, Welcome to
the Trucika podcast. My friend, how

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are you? Thank you very much, sir, and I'm very delighted to

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be on board with your wonderful show. Thank you and honor awesome. We

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have a mutual friend, Philip Mantle, had him on the podcast a couple

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of weeks ago. He's introduced me
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he works with, and you was
one of the names that came across my

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desk and saw what you were bringing
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make for a great talk. So
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Mentle is also a mine and my
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been of enormous assistance and helped us
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those esteemed individuals, researchers and authors
in this very complex, you know,

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subject matter concerning UFOs. So yes, and we're going to talk a little

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bit about a little bit about a
lot of different topics and we'll cover a

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wide gamut with you. But what
got you into the interest in ufology,

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aliens, UFOs, in this this
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Like, what was your genesis into
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when my twin brother and I were
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at the back garden of our grandmother's
house. She lived in Middlesex here in

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England. They had quite a big
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or evening, I can't remember.
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not if it was late afternoon or
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silver orb in broad daylight that came
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and then came over her head.
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of a football. There were no
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and we asked her what is it, and she told us that the fairies

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had come to take a closer look
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that was not the truth. But
we saw the object moving towards the house,

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towards the first floor windows, then
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and we ran inside to the other
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the main event that had occurred and
got me really involved with this was what

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people term an alien abduction that occurred
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and the only abduction that I can
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and this led me into the crusade
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phenomena. I wanted to know whether
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was already relevant, but we are
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so I wanted to know whether or
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system that we serve was lying.
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what side of the fence I was
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during the event the rather unusual event
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showed me that there appeared to be
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an alien abduction. One happens on
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part seems to integrate itself on a
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you know, without going too far
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that seemingly operates not only on the
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was fed up also with the constant
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being told constantly that you know,
you're laughed at when you appear on media,

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television or on you know, talking
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like suffered like many people do through
this form of ridicule. But today we're

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finding that more people are becoming more
aware of this subject, not just about

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the UFO phenomenon, but also about
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we really represent as opposed to the
biological flesh and blood mechanisms with a cell

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by date that we've been sold by
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So this is where my crusade led
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dreamed that I would be connected with
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and that is something I totally respect
and our modus operandi is to search for

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the truth. So this started with
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and then you had an abduction experience
as well. Yes, that's correct.

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Detail. Well it's a little bit
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stay for the record. Part of
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as we call them, and they
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Because I had experienced these beings as
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how the process of an abduction occurred, and seemingly it would appear that the

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individual is taken through solid matter and
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not, the grays have to be
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abducting. And I began to realize
that through the abduction that I had,

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I started to question how it was
that I was being able to be taken

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through solid matter. I eedores and
this is something that's stuck for many,

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many years. And you know,
we get people saying, oh, it's

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because they can beam you up all
well and good, but why can't they

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do that from the craft? Why
do they have to be present or in

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close proximity to the individual. And
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that these beings need some kind of
psychic integration and they need the subject to

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be in some form of conscious state
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So my research which then led in
the understanding that perhaps we're dealing with somethink

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or a power force, energy,
whatever intelligence that is very old and it's

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kind of disturbing when you find through
research of how many people have had these

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experiences and rather like the abduction to
me that I discovered way back in nineteen

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ninety six because I have been credited
with an article in a magazine that we

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had then caught alien encounters. I
discovered that the abduction phenomena sat very closely

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towards the near death experience. And
for example, in a near death experience,

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a person goes through wars and doors, they see a light, they

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go down a tunnel. More times
than not, they meet loved ones that

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communicate telepathy telepathically, and the person
is returned back more times than not changed

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and in some cases if they are
suffering terminal illness, it seems that the

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whole biasphere of their body is completely
reconfigured to its correct vibrational level, which

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means they're healed. The abduction seems
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times than on a rather negative level, although it mirrors the near death experience.

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We're finding that the person that again
is taking through walls and doors,

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they're in the presence of these beings
that communicate telepathically. A person has a

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sense of missing time. That could
be because the individual has been taking outside

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their normal framework of time processing and
at the same with the near death experience

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where the person loses or cannot account
for time. So this led me into

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the understanding that through what I had
experience, which I will tell you was

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quite grueling and quite nasty and embarrassing, if I may use that word,

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and something I had to live with
for a very long time. And because

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of that shame, because of the
experience, I wasn't one of these people

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people to just sit and leave it. I wanted to find out what it

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was, if there was any form
or basive reality to a continuation of these

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events with other people and this is
what we found. So this is how

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I really wanted to find out the
answer to what the grays are. I

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know there are other factions of beings, as we're told, but I can

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only talk from experience. So it
was a very frightening experience and one that

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I have never forgot and I can
still recall very clearly. May I make

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a point in saying here that I
have never had regression or hypnosis. I

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remembered the events exactly as they had
occurred, and they I have not added

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or subtracted anything. But we're still
puzzled. We still don't know why,

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and this is what we're looking at. Yeah, I mean that was going

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to be the next question, just
about your abduction experience. Was it something

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that was fearful and or was it
something beautiful and changed your life? Obviously

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it changed your life, but it
sets you on this road, this path.

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Whenever you talk about, you know, the spiritual connection something that you

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keep mentioning, is it more over
the spiritual abilities that these entities might have,

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or the connection that made you open
up to become more spiritual as well?

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Because we are hearing a lot of
that that people who have had these

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abduction scenarios or contact experiences. They
become more in tune with their telepathic communication

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with beings and ships and friends,
and they know who's about to call them

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right before they call on a telephone, different premonitions and things like that.

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Where does the spirituality link in with
you? Is it more the spiritual powers

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that they have, or are you
tapping into some of this stuff now as

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well? That is a very interesting
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Now. What happened was that,
even though the experience to me was

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very negative, in later life,
I then became interested in psychic phenomena.

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One of the reasons was because I
wanted to find what we as humans represent,

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what our purpose is, and I
discovered after going to see a brilliant

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medium. As they're called, I
would prefer the word interpreter, because they're

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just interpreting information coming from a higher
source that we can't see here. Rather

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like the signals to your mobile phone, you have a physical instrument to catch

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the signals and download and convert those
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So did the experience change me?
Yes? It did. Did it

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help me? It may well possibly
have. I think something happened I think

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when all of us go through a
very tragic experience, whatever that tragedy may

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be, something opens up. I
think there's more empathy or more understanding now.

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It could be that the experience I
had back in the winter of nineteen

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eighty nine had somehow opened a part
of my mind which was previously closed.

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And as we know this the other
subject matter that fascinates me, not just

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about the UFO phenomena, but also
the psychic part, the survival of human

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consciousness. A little bit strange.
It was back in nineteen ninety six when

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I brought forward this theory, and
of course a lot of people now share

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things, which I'm more than happy
to do, but it made me realize

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something more about the grades themselves through
our consciousness, through our spirituality. I

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have always believed that when we die, you know, take away all the

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jargon, that consciousness survives the state
of death, and it returns to source.

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And it is feasible to assume that
we ourselves have incarnated, perhaps more

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times than once, and not just
perhaps on this planet. Because we always

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think in the in terms of being
a human. And one of the things

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that fascinated me and I did question, was did this experience happen to change

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me deliberately, to change the course
of my life going forward. Like all

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of us individually, we are all
important, all special, no matter what

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we do or what we think.
So the grays kind of like gave me

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a clue perhaps as to their genus
or what they are doing and why they

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are interested in us as a reproductive
species. Because we must understand through our

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own research that the grays appear to
be some type of cloned entity or robotic

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in nature. That much has been
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we have different theoretical applications that we
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forms of speculation, but I must
state I think this subject or the experience

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may show us more about what we
are as humans. And you know,

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when we look at the grays as
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They come in and they go out
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operandia is kept secret, or at
least they dem on that. It's not

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like they want to come forward and
reveal all them where they do most times

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are not its lies. So yes, I believe that I wanted to discover

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not just about the reality of UFOs, but also of the continuation of what

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we call the soul. Yeah,
that's good. It starts out with one

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thing, but then it's snowballs into
a lot more. You thought it was

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only about the proof of extraterrestrial life, and then it becomes the agenda,

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and then who am I? Why
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us think snowball. Let me ask
you this you have? Is that a

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picture behind you of the Jesus Arm
wrestling Satan? Is that behind it?

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Correct? Correct? So here in
the comments section as we're live streaming here,

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some people are saying that, and
this is definitely from a Christian perspective,

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that the Grays are all aliens everything
outside of our atmosphere or whatever.

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There are all demonic fallen entities that
are coming here to do serimns, to

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kidnap people, things like that,
mostly across the board from the Christian perspective.

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I'm a Christian, but mostly when
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studying under the Christian you know,
Lynn Marzouli and all these guys, Guy

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im alone, so many more names, and it was, hands down,

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these are demons. It wasn't until
I got into looking into different people who

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just kind of looked at the research
for what it was that I got out

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of. Okay, these are demons, these may be angels. What about

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the angelic beings that are out there
traveling? So do you have a religious

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connotation with it when it comes to
these experiences that angels, aliens, demons

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and all that kind of stuff.
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greatest respect for the religious departments totally, And as I've said before, we

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must walk very carefully. I know
that I've had many people telling me straight

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out of their demons. We cannot
discount that hypothesis. We have to be

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open minded. The only reason that
I study them because one person told me

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who was religious, that you know, you're doing the devil's work, now,

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I'm not. In order for us
to understand something, we must explore

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it and not just through you know, religious texts or words in the Bible

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which I have read. By the
way, it is possible, and if

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I can take the hypothesis one step
further with regards to the grays and their

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secret modus operandi, we are finding
that the grays seemed or appear to be

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interested in reproduction. Now for a
species that themselves cannot reproduce that sniff suspect

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to me, even back in nineteen
ninety six, and I had what I

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could only term as some type of
revelation in nineteen ninety six. People call

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it what they will. It felt
like a download. The only way I

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can explain it was like some kind
of revelation that everything came pouring out very

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quickly. I scribbled everything down at
work on a piece of paper, and

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I submitted the article to a magazine
that took it, and the Alien Encounters

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magazine. And of course this has
applied in my further works, in my

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books later on. But if we
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be a blank canvas. They are
interested in reproduction, They are interested in

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what makes us as humans tick.
They don't understand about time of love,

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of empathy, of spirituality. It's
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totally to some other cause. Now, we could take the cloned hypothesis a

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little bit further, which is what
is part of my work, and we

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could assume that because we come through
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we carry the memories from one life
to the other or the soul. I'm

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not going to get involved with the
reincarnational aspects. I think it's important for

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us to look at all areas of
this debate. But one thing that is

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correct is that you know, for
a species that cannot replicate themselves, they

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are using humans. And it's possible
on a theoretical level that the divine spark

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of that clone, that is not
part of the creation process, is interested

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in trying to reincubate itself into a
biological form. If they are demons,

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and I will say a big if, because I step very lightly, but

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I also respect all establishments, even
though I get attacked and criticized from all

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sides. You can't win in this
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it possible perhaps that they are trying
to re enter into this physical realm through

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this said hybridization program, because from
our stance, you know, we are

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spirit and I've always believed that that
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soul in a biological form that is
designed to walk through this life with an

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experience in memories. But it could
be that another species has hijacked that because

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they themselves are no longer part of
the bigger picture and of course, you

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said quite rightfully. When you're dealing
with this subject matter, it leads you

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into some very deep waters and uncomfortable
territory, but territory nevertheless that we must

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explore. We have to. That
is very important. So aliens from another

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planet, I'm not so sure.
I tend to believe more in the interdimensional

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hypothesis. Now when man came into
being, when we were created. We

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have to understand that we are so
far removed from the creation here on Earth

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because we've been allowed to develop and
we know why. You know, we

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are the sentient life form that's been
graced to and be afforded the ability to

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progress and question, whereas all of
nature cannot. But it is therefore our

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so survises as it were. But
the grays appear very different, and it

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could be that they are performing a
replication program to try to re establish themselves

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back into the loop of creation where
they have been damned. So that's what

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I see with regards to that.
Yeah, So I mean that kind of

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you know, leads us to you
know, the hybrid children and people have

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all these stories about going on a
ship or entering some type of room with

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a bunch of children there and you
know that they carried some of these children,

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these different stories that you're hearing about. I know there was something that

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really freaked me out years ago.
You may know what I'm talking about,

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because I'm sure you've just been digging
all of this, But there was this

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lady who had a baby like this, there was something inside of her.

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She said she was abducted by aliens
and they put something with dinner, and

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she had this baby that looked like
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don't know if you remember that at
all, but when you get into that,

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it's definitely become a subculture, especially
even within uphology, but it's definitely

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their urbanization in people who are carrying
alien babies and things like that. I've

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kind of stayed away from it myself, but early on, definitely scary,

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definitely weird. You hear crazy stories. Are you familiar with any of that

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stuff? Yes, And again that
is uncomfortable territory. I mean, I

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can only talk from experience. But
let's look at the Grays again and how

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the process they may instigate in the
form of an abduction. They're able to

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bring the person through wars and doors, through solid matter, they take them

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onto a craft, and I believe
what's happening in some instances they seem to

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have up their program. If you
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the world wasn't as populated as it
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contact as we call it, it
was done on a very one to one

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level, although on most of those
occas there will be a physical part and

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a part that they can't recall and
had to be regressed through memory. If

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not sometimes you know a little bit
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So that confirms that the visitors as
we call them, are not interested

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in reaching out to us or helping
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that the grays, from their dimension
of awareness are extracting the real you from

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your host, as it were,
the physical part of what you are biologically,

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and once you are matched by that
frequency, they're able to interact with

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you. But because the consciousness or
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is still attached, sorry to its
physical counterpart, whatever they do to you

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there, which is real, will
still affect the body marks. You know,

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implants that type of thing. Now, look at the near death experience,

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so you have that that the people
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said ships and things. Not all
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If they do, then they're using
or utilizing the same process of bringing

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the molecular structure of the entire U
into their full frequency of awareness and interaction

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is definitely achieved through this. The
UFO could be a reference point. They

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need a point or a place to
bring you to. They can't just take

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you anywhere. And I feel that
the grays also are able to manifest images

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very clearly to the abductee. They
can even bring the abductees' dead relatives on

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board. So the grays appear to
be very powerful in terms of interacting with

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the mind, although it feels to
me as though they're trying to understand us

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on a not only a biological level, but also the consciousness the soul.

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With these forms or processing of mental
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They will show explosions or the world
blowing up. It's almost as if

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they want some kind of stimuli from
the individual, and they may be recording

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this. So we have to be
very careful. Are we dealing with demons?

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Are we dealing with androids? Are
we dealing with clones? Are we

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dealing with people from the future?
That you know as well as I do

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that this sphere is so vast,
But my theoretical piece of work, although

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maybe rejected by many, does suggest
to some level that the interaction between us

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and so called aliens is all about
the soul, about what makes us tick,

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about reproduction, and that is very
strange, especially when they want to

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deliberately, you know, nullify the
memory, so the person has no,

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hardly any recall, in more cases
than not, of what's occurred. Now,

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what does that tell you? And
please don't tell me there's a special

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code in the universe that stops beings
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that's the case, the grades have
broken up already. But the grays are

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very old. They've been here for
a very very long time. And as

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you know as well as I do, is that the phenomena has morphed.

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It's changed now. It almost seems, you know, I'm getting a picture

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of the matrix. But I think
I think more so Avatar, where there's

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this world that exists that they're not
a part of and they want to assimilate

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and get within that world. How
do we do it? We need to

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have a you know, we can
do it consciously. Heck, it's almost

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like if you if you track,
if you hack the psychedelic trance state,

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and our spirits go there, but
we're snatched back, we come back here.

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How do we stay there? Well, we need to become one of

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them. Yes, the grades need
they need to have bodies. Whether they're

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putting their spirits within these humans as
well, maybe they just need to shell

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and they put a soul, their
soul. That is very ancient. This

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is where it gets into the demon
stuff. I mean, you know Genesis

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six and Nephilum, and there's here
about that. Oh yeah, that's why.

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I think that's why that theory sticks
so much for a lot of people.

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The Genesis six and fallen angels needed
bodies and all of this kind of

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stuff. And it almost seems there
is a theory that that I've heard and

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have believed for some time that that
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have that the Grays are these meat
suits, these robots, if you will,

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like you said, but they have
created these suits that they have put

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their spirits, and now they can
animate this body that somebody has created for

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them, whether it is humans,
the government absolutely created this, or this

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could have been something that evolution that
they have learned to do and and and

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and you know, manipulate particles and
matters to such a small level, so

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they were able to create it.
And now they're here. Now they're flying

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around our skies maybe or in and
out of these dimensions that they've learned to

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travel. There's so much. There's
so much to it, and and that's

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why the people get with the demon
thing. I'm really not with with the

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demon scenario. But at the same
time, is this manevolent because if you're

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let's just say that there is something
that they're their species is becoming extinct and

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they or they have found a realm
that they have not they're not priven to

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yet unless they have a body.
I mean, we would do and are

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doing the same thing. If it's
technology, how do we exist within this

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tech technological world where we need to
create the technology to do it and and

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harvest you know, there's all kinds
of stuff going on. So is it

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necessarily manevolent because they're doing this this
program? I think from our perspective,

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Yes, the way that we view
things. Now, let me give you

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another example. You, as I
see it, are a natural process of

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soul integration. You've come through the
womb the correct channel. You had a

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mother, and you a mother,
and you when you depart this plane,

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your soul turns back to source.
But what if I cloned you in a

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laboratory. Now, let's just take
this question one step further. Let's say

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I cloned you ten times. You
when you pass over, not for a

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very long time. When you pass
over, your consciousness will return to that

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realm. The question of the clones
will only have the memory of one single

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imprint, of one recording, and
therefore, when the physical copy dies,

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is it conceivable to assume that that
spark of awareness that is not matched by

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the strength of your soul is lost
in limbo? And that if a species

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has cloned itself to the point of
exhaustion, it does not understand or cannot

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gain access back to what we call
create. And there they have found a

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world that reproduces. And it's possible
that they are trying to understand themselves more

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through us, or trying to fill
in those missing gaps as it were,

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so you know, perhaps from their
side it could be desperation, and because

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a lot of what they achieve certainly
links into elements of the paranormal, because

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it's like chasing shadows. These things
have even been photographed within the ether.

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00:33:34,119 --> 00:33:37,599
And there are always two aspects to
us, one physical one not non physical,

410
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:40,359
the same with your mobile phone and
signals. So we have to be

411
00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:44,680
very careful, and as I said
before, I'm very open to all forms

412
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:49,880
of speculation. I will not pigeonhole
myself and restrict myself. The other thing

413
00:33:50,039 --> 00:33:54,440
is that, interestingly is that as
a conscious entity as we are, the

414
00:33:54,559 --> 00:34:00,759
brain is the instrument that allows consciousness
to fill through to this form memory,

415
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,279
sold whatever you want to call it. But most people are operating on a

416
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:09,800
narrow field of conscious awareness, and
it's possible that the Grace themselves has found

417
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:15,960
entry into within our realm through consciousness. You know, we have to think

418
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,920
about that because you know, the
brain is, after all, is incredible

419
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:24,719
organism, and more times than not
it's shut down through fear or mental subjugation

420
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,159
on some level or control. But
certainly, I think like astronauts that go

421
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,880
out into space because they're removed from
their normal processing of time, they feel

422
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,239
changed. And I think that when
people have what they call an abduction,

423
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,440
they feel changed as well, and
this may account for the periods of missing

424
00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:46,559
time where memory recall is very difficult. You know, one thing I always

425
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:52,880
have to bring up is the fact
that you don't really hear the term abduction

426
00:34:53,079 --> 00:34:58,719
anymore. I don't. I'm not
interviewing a lot of people who are saying

427
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,280
that they're having has happened to them. Now, most people when it comes

428
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,119
to UFOs and aliens, for the
most part, at least from my perspective,

429
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,800
have you know, they call themselves
contactees and experiencers and they love it.

430
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,800
I mean, there's even the CE
five initiative where they're trying to go

431
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,280
out and make contact for themselves to
figure out what's going on, from moving

432
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,400
from being an armchair investigator to instead
of them contacting me, the CE five

433
00:35:25,559 --> 00:35:30,239
is me going out and contacting them
under the night sky. I've had my

434
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,320
fair share of CE five experiences by
myself with groups of people, had amazing

435
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:42,199
experiences out of this world. But
when it comes to the abduction term,

436
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,760
a lot of people have said that
the abduction in the grades that's kind of

437
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:50,760
been taboo and off limits now and
that has been phased out over the years.

438
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:52,760
I mean, how would you respond
to that? Is that something that's

439
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,840
still happening, because obviously from you
know, I guess we would go back

440
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,119
to the you know, late forties
to I would say nineties. There in

441
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:05,519
the two thousands, late two thousands, I feel like it started to go

442
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:07,800
downhill. You don't hear much about
it anymore. What is your response to

443
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:13,559
that? Well, it's interesting and
I and my brother and a friend of

444
00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:19,159
mine, Susan, had performed a
CE five experiment all the way back on

445
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,800
the eighth of June nineteen ninety eight
at Relasion Forest in Suffolk, and we

446
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,679
actually, I mean people say I
don't believe it, I don't want,

447
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:32,039
I don't care. We actually,
through our wishing or wanting, had viewed

448
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:37,239
a spectacular craft that was triangular with
a gap in a circle undercarriage beneath it.

449
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,119
It was silent and it was like
a clock, one moving one way

450
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:45,039
or the other moving the other.
And as I ran towards it, it's

451
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:50,079
a long story, but it disappeared
like someone switching the lights out. So

452
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,119
I do understand. We were performing
experiments at C five and I do acknowledge

453
00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:58,840
that there are good entities. There
are angels, spirit GUIDs, whatever you

454
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,039
want to call them. Angels are
different from spiritual eyes obviously, but certainly

455
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,400
I think that the application of consciousness
is very interesting and how we may be

456
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:14,960
able to draw in these different levels
of reality through a process of sending signals

457
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,400
out and getting them back but not
quite how we thought they would come back.

458
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,639
So we're studying the application of consciousness
and it is a real phenomena.

459
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:29,000
It is not something that is just
whimsical. It is real. But I

460
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:35,440
think that because we are separated from
that vibrational level of integration, that's why

461
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:38,760
it comes in very briefly and then
goes out again, because we're not matched

462
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:45,280
by the same density they graze themselves. Yes, there haven't been as many

463
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:51,199
reports of abductions. I totally agree
with you, And I also sway also

464
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,840
to the side of the experiences.
You know, people tend to put people

465
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,519
in pigeonholes. I was there myself. I was put in a pigeon hole

466
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,639
myself, so I understand and empathize
with that completely. So we've got to

467
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,400
be careful when we're looking at the
subject because it shows that the phenomena is

468
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,519
evolving, and perhaps it's meant to
evolve us, it's meant to move us

469
00:38:12,599 --> 00:38:16,960
forward into some type of transgressional stage
of spirituality, if I use that word.

470
00:38:19,199 --> 00:38:22,800
But we can see certainly that there's
been a lot of changes since the

471
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:28,320
forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties and into the two

472
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,480
thousands, so it has morphed.
And of course we as we all know

473
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:37,360
as research as the phenomena is also
morphed. So it feels like it's always

474
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,239
one step ahead of us. And
you know, you'll have the division,

475
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,719
of course you will. You'll have
the negativity, of course you will.

476
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:50,400
But I embrace that because I understand, now, what is the deception part

477
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,199
of your work? What like,
how are we being deceived? Is the

478
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:59,760
government hiding this from us? How
are the how is the population and being

479
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,960
this? When it comes to ufhali
UFOs in the Grace, well, that

480
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:09,320
all goes back to nineteen forty seven
with as everyone knows, the most famous

481
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,119
UFO case of all time, and
people roll their eyes up, thinking,

482
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,800
oh, well, let's just ask
two questions about that. First of all,

483
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,519
and this was the inception of what
we call conspiracy because if the object

484
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:29,320
had been a secret mogul weather balloon, as was the new terminology some years

485
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:35,960
later, retracting from the balloon hypothesis, then why weren't the military themselves watching

486
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,880
it? If it was so top
secret, why did they just forget about

487
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,480
it? And then some rancher,
a wonderful ranch of mac Brazil, happened

488
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:46,159
to stumble upon the debris. And
if it was that top secret, why

489
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:51,360
would you then place fragments of this
secret weather balloon on the front page of

490
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,719
national newspapers? You know, it
didn't make any sense. And we know

491
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:59,119
at that point that the birthing of
conspiracy had started. It wasn't the beginning

492
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:01,760
of the UFO sightings, know,
there were many, many more before that.

493
00:40:02,159 --> 00:40:08,000
But I think something unusual happened where
such entities have perhaps become into our

494
00:40:08,079 --> 00:40:14,079
realities, solidified, you know,
and the rest is history. But the

495
00:40:14,199 --> 00:40:17,079
people behind it, I don't think
a government. I think the governments tend

496
00:40:17,159 --> 00:40:22,880
our governments, well governments, your
governments are governments or governments their puppets,

497
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:28,079
you know, they come and go. So I believe that the secrets are

498
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:34,360
being held by a very small unit. Clandensteine unit within the military establishment who

499
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:40,719
perhaps themselves don't understand all of it, and you know, usually plant disinformation

500
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,039
into the media circuits to sway researchers. But was also interesting is that I

501
00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:53,719
believe that these people, nameless,
faceless bureaucrats, are also very interested in

502
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,599
researchers and what they're bringing to the
table to see what they know. So

503
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:05,960
it's clear within its inception that they
themselves don't have all the answers. But

504
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:09,880
there again, if it was,
you know, proven that there were such

505
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:15,360
things as aliens and UFOs, how
then would they be able to explain this

506
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:21,039
to the public. They couldn't even
if you said, we have UFOs and

507
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:25,119
we have aliens, we have their
technology, you know, we have so

508
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:30,519
we've had surviving members that have infiltrated
this plane of reality, whatever form they

509
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,920
come in. How then are you
going to explain that to the public,

510
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:38,119
especially where the abduction phenomena is concerned. And I believe that, you know,

511
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,559
this is why it's not as simple
as that you just have to mention

512
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,920
on the national users. There's a
water shortage or a food shortage or a

513
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:52,199
fuel shortage, and you've got Mayhem. So God helped you know everyone if

514
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:58,239
they don't understand, because if it's
coming from an official capacity, this will

515
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,599
shake the very foundation. Of course, we've got some proof already coming forward

516
00:42:01,639 --> 00:42:06,119
from the Navy, as you know. But it comes in and goes out,

517
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,000
it dies. It's not something that
makes the national real national news.

518
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:13,079
There it is, ladies and gentlemen, here it is. It's it's almost

519
00:42:13,159 --> 00:42:16,519
done quite in a very teaching way, as it were, you know,

520
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:21,559
a teasing way, and left for
you to sort it out, and then

521
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,079
no more is said about it.
So I don't think we're anywhere near to

522
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,480
disclosure just yet. I think all
of the good souls like yourself, many

523
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,159
other people who are doing the amazing
work and following your belief system and what

524
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:37,199
you believe, which is very important. I think that that's good for you

525
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,840
guys, all of us, because
we're happy doing that. But I think

526
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,440
on a major skull, no,
we'll have a real problem on our hands,

527
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:49,079
especially where religion is concerned, because
that will throw there certainly a lot

528
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,800
into the apple cart. Yeah.
I mean, I think the Pope,

529
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:59,800
even several years ago, you know, I guess bracing for disclosure, said

530
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,079
if they are real, there are
space brothers and we need to evangelize them

531
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,800
and different things like that. And
you know, and that's one thing that

532
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:13,480
Philip Mantle was talking about, just
knowing that I was a believer, so

533
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:16,400
he was, okay, so you
judge this as a you know that that

534
00:43:16,599 --> 00:43:21,039
that there is a god consciousness and
all of this. It's it sets up

535
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,800
the way that you believe in the
way that you interpret and uh, and

536
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:30,960
we read into things. We you
know, we there's this we try to

537
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:37,400
look for for experiences scenarios that fit
our biases or confirm our beliefs, you

538
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,719
know, even though that that they
may not be true, may not be

539
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,960
real. That's just what we do
as end of it. I think all

540
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,079
of us do that, but to
look at the information for what it is

541
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,440
if even if it contradicts hell,
most of it does. Yes. The

542
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:55,719
interesting thing again for me is with
the CE five initiatives and people going out

543
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,559
making their own contact and so and
it seems like it'd be something that you

544
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:05,599
would want to take to the next
level because you can because I don't believe

545
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,519
that disclosure is gonna come from the
government. If it does, I'm going

546
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:13,599
to believe the exact opposite of whatever
they tell us it is, and most

547
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,559
likely they're going to tell us that
their enemies or something like that, or

548
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:20,840
we're under attack. For me,
I think that whether they're the grades or

549
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,199
what type of beings, maybe even
the Anunaki, some would say that the

550
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Grays were these gods that created created
us. Yes, they're coming back and

551
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:35,000
working on us and even upgrading our
DNA. Hell, this vaccine is a

552
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,199
so called upgrade to your DNA.
You know, it's it gets very tricky,

553
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,880
but I feel like they have been
here since the beginning, since we

554
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,679
were primitive, and bring out what
the wheel was and what fire was,

555
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:53,400
and they've had this advanced technology and
they've been in the underground oceans and in

556
00:44:53,679 --> 00:45:00,440
caves and in mountains some very strange
things that they're able to buy locate.

557
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:06,199
But the spirituality for me, plays
a big role into it. Like you

558
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,119
were saying talking about the telepathic communication, and that has been something that I

559
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,599
have experienced on several occasions of having
a citing something told me, hey,

560
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:20,719
look over there, there's gonna be
a UFO and it told me that I

561
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,920
looked, boom, there it is
and there was a jet flying across the

562
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:29,679
sky, and it told me that
the jet is flying over here to make

563
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,599
me leave my position. They're gonna
they're trying to, you know, get

564
00:45:31,639 --> 00:45:35,920
me to leave so people won't see
me. And as soon as I seen

565
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,320
it, it was during the day, it and as soon as I've seen

566
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:43,159
the jet headed right towards it,
it just vanished. And it like they

567
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,920
wait until you acknowledge them, and
they know that they know that you see

568
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,840
them, they say hello, and
they disappear. A lot of people would

569
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,639
say that this is the government,
like all of the UFO stuff is the

570
00:45:53,800 --> 00:46:00,360
government, But when it comes to
the telepathic communication, that's where like it

571
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,800
those were meant in the government stuff
for me because it is a spiritual connection

572
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:07,440
like of course. But then they'll
tell you that the government has technology where

573
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,960
they can plant dots in your mind. Well you know this is yeah,

574
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:15,079
this is very dangerous territory. But
you will know you as the individual,

575
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:20,480
conscious awareness yourself will know what you
are picking up what Okay, you don't

576
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,239
have all the answers, but you
feel it inside. And certainly, going

577
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:30,039
back to your very interesting point,
I have always believed that our species had

578
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:36,559
derived from dare I said again extraterrestrial
intervention, because you just have to look

579
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:39,079
around and see that we are so
weak. We're not adapted to this plane

580
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:43,639
of reality because we shy from our
own son. We don't have enough hair

581
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:45,440
on our body to protect us from
the heat. We're very weak. I

582
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:50,880
do believe that a part of the
hominid was used to fashion the Adom as

583
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,559
it were, and thus the creation
process started. But I always have this

584
00:46:54,719 --> 00:47:00,079
romanticized version that the gods then were
very different. They were more like us,

585
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:07,960
I suppose, and I believe that
the Grays could perhaps been a part

586
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,239
of them, or a faction of
them. We don't know, We can

587
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,719
only speculate, but they do come
across as like fallen angels, you know,

588
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,119
so they haven't done themselves much favors
that they want to reach out that

589
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:27,760
hand for complete brotherhood. But I
also completely believe in higher beings, because

590
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,639
we're not just talking about the Grays
here. There are other interdimensionals of reality,

591
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:37,840
and I've had my fair share of
those experiences, very enlightening experiences.

592
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,079
They have not all been negative.
So perhaps our understanding of the way that

593
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,239
we try to break it down on
a personal level, we can be,

594
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:52,519
you know, completely wrong about the
whole thing. So we have to be

595
00:47:52,679 --> 00:47:57,639
very careful, but certainly it makes
me laugh the CE five and I love

596
00:47:57,679 --> 00:48:00,719
it. But we had done that
back in nineteen nine, not even realizing

597
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,679
that's what it's called today. Well, I know what CU five is for

598
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,480
today, but never knowing that that
would be something that people would be doing

599
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,280
on a larger scull because people looked
at you back then as if you were

600
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:16,280
lying, or you're completely you're gone
round the bend. But it's so refreshing

601
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:21,559
and interesting from my perspective that all
those years ago that you know, it

602
00:48:21,639 --> 00:48:23,960
makes me smile. People say,
bring me the proof, where's the proof.

603
00:48:24,039 --> 00:48:28,679
Well, we did this experiment with
no cameras and I don't care.

604
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,559
It doesn't bother me. It was
a personal thing that both myself and my

605
00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:37,440
brother and Susan back in nineteen ninety
eight, eighth of June had witnessed and

606
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:45,199
there was a latest one ninth of
April two thousand and sixteen, our last

607
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,719
sighting of three enormous spherical crafts that
have been filmed by my niece and one

608
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,039
their way and hung above my number
my brother's head when we were coming back

609
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:59,000
from a late night meal with friends, and that's been recorded and so whatever

610
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:00,599
proof you bring to the tape or
people say, oh, I still don't

611
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:05,679
believe. I mean if even if
Jesus Christ stepped off a craft or let's

612
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,599
stone him before I even a chance
to speak, you know, I think

613
00:49:08,679 --> 00:49:12,840
we'll get thumbs down. I just
told you, if the president comes and

614
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,400
tell me, tells me what it
is, I'm not going to believe.

615
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,480
In No, I already will,
but I've just told you I'm not going

616
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:24,880
to be you know, Oh it's
very complex, and you know we have

617
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,639
to be very also respectful because you
know, I don't have all the answers.

618
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,559
I only have a bunch of theories
like many other people. And what's

619
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,760
what's also damaging to my credibility is
the fact that I proclaim to many that

620
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,360
I have had what they call an
abduction and being constant witness to UFOs SO

621
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,320
as a researcher and as also as
an abductee's stroke experiencer. It kind of

622
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,159
like doesn't put you in good life. But I always say to my comrades

623
00:49:57,199 --> 00:50:00,280
that you know, it's okay.
We form a bond and a trust and

624
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:05,320
integrity and that's what we work with
and we're just trying to find the truth.

625
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,559
That's what we're after. And you
just put the information out there and

626
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:12,320
you look at it and find the
peace to the puzzle, and eventually it

627
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:16,000
formulates a picture. And there's many
different sides of course, Oh yes,

628
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:21,039
oh yes, absolutely, and we
have to respect that because you know,

629
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,559
we don't want to damage someone's belief
system, which is very, very destructive

630
00:50:24,639 --> 00:50:29,559
to the individual. And it is
a process of belief also that shapes our

631
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:32,679
reality as individuals. On a larger
scale or a larger picture, there is

632
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,280
a much bigger force operating beyond this
level of reality, I can tell you

633
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,840
and you know that as well,
and it guides us or we felt sometimes

634
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:45,920
guided by this great power, this
force that is so amazing and so oh,

635
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:50,599
I can't find the words majestic that
it makes us want to be part

636
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,239
of that love, that unity,
that intelligence of greatness and wisdom and love

637
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,159
and strength and power and all these
things. So you know, we're still

638
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,880
looking into those areas and we probably
will be for a very very long time.

639
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:09,679
Yeah, it's there's exploration, there's
beauty, there's creativity. Yes,

640
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:15,000
there's imagination, there's all there's wonder. I mean, for me, the

641
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:19,000
CE five or any of the any
supernatural phenomenon really, but CE five is

642
00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:24,039
one that I believe is, you
know that you can recreate Terence mckinna,

643
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:28,679
you know, the famous psycho Nat
said, he's you know, going in

644
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,960
on psilocybin and DMT and magic mushrooms. And he would go into the other

645
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:37,199
realms and communicate with entities, yes, tell them the machine elves, and

646
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,320
these elves would communicate with them and
tell them things about reality and how things

647
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,400
work. And he would try to
hold onto something and bring it back and

648
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,079
write it down, and he would
just stay in this He's going into this

649
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,039
other realm, you know. And
so the Shamans did the same. The

650
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:59,920
Shamans did the same. They do
perform these initiations to deliberately force the soul,

651
00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:04,039
the consciousness, away from the physical
body to enter these spheres. But

652
00:52:04,119 --> 00:52:07,320
we live in a system unfortunately,
that is telling us that certain things are

653
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:12,920
not right, only because it wants
control and order, and it turns everything

654
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:15,960
round to make it look like you're
a bad person, or go and buy

655
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:20,840
that lovely, great big, you
know, range rover, and then you

656
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,280
get slapped on the hand for being
a gas guzzler. So my argument is

657
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,440
they give it in one hand and
slap it in the other. You find

658
00:52:28,519 --> 00:52:31,559
your happy medium and what works for
you to find your answers. As long

659
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:35,760
as it's not harming anyone else,
and you're not really harming yourself at all,

660
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:37,360
then go for it. I always
say, you know, just you

661
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,760
know, it's your journey. Everyone's
too quick to point the finger and put

662
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,440
you in a little box and tell
you that you're wrong and bring you down.

663
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,159
No, no, no, no, no no, That's not the

664
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,840
way that we see things around here, especially where this subject matter is concerned.

665
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,519
Yeah, speaking about the demons again, you know, the angels and

666
00:52:55,559 --> 00:53:00,440
demons and that whole thing. One
is the things that I think that many

667
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:07,559
religious people get wrong or they mixed
the two together, is because we're you

668
00:53:07,639 --> 00:53:09,960
know, you mentioned fairies that your
grandmother said. It could have been fairies

669
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,679
that were coming to visit or whatever. Like, I feel like there's a

670
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,719
lot of different entities that there are
what we call angels, there are what

671
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:22,039
we would call us oh yes,
yes, all types of entities. So

672
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:27,239
I really do feel like the Christian
or the religious people are maybe having these

673
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:35,760
encounters with demons with lower level entities
and tying it into euthology and just because

674
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,440
they had a being appear in their
room and paralyze them and scare them or

675
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:44,039
whatever they did, a ghost,
whatever it could have been anything. I

676
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:46,199
feel like a lot of people are
reading into and saying that it was an

677
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:51,840
alien, that these are aliens,
that these were grays or or whatever.

678
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,480
These these malicious uh, these beings
with a malicious intent were aliens, and

679
00:53:55,559 --> 00:53:59,639
I feel like they're you know,
I feel like it's an easy way out

680
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,880
versus saying that there are multiple things
that they could lead. Yes, yes,

681
00:54:04,039 --> 00:54:09,159
there are multiples of dimensions of awareness. You know, we see things

682
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,840
in a flat way in a flat
like a flat line, and we're cut

683
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:22,559
off from the other dimensions through the
infrared spectrum. And there probably are,

684
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:28,679
you know, an eternal amount of
other realities that coexist or we can connect

685
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,639
with on a unique in unique ways
as it were, so you know,

686
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,280
clairvoyance, remote viewing, healing,
astral travel, shamanic experiences. It goes

687
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:45,320
on and on, but I respect
every single one of them because it's showing

688
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:52,320
us more about consciousness, the soul, creation, and our part as individuals

689
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,440
within this grand scheme of life.
And I believe that the system that we

690
00:54:55,559 --> 00:55:02,480
serve has deliberately hampered our ability to
think outside the box and program us on

691
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:07,039
a very limited version of reality,
saying that is right, that is wrong.

692
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:10,679
Don't look into the past, because
this is how it happened, and

693
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,039
we're finding now that this is all
wrong. So in the future we will

694
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:19,400
have a new science of the mind, and I believe that there will be

695
00:55:19,559 --> 00:55:22,480
centers where people can you know,
just about do what they want, whether

696
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,679
it be astral travel or remote viewing
or shamanic experiences. You know, I

697
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,599
think they're all amazing and they're wonderful. So you know, I always laugh

698
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:34,679
and joke with people and say,
well, I'm always up for it.

699
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,920
You know, you've got to have
a sense of humor. Yeah, oh,

700
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,239
you definitely do. You definitely do. But it you know that there's

701
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:45,440
any end. You have more questions. And I've had, oh listen,

702
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,280
I've had a lot of experiences.
I've had, you know, facilitated experiences

703
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,199
that it would definitely seem like I
was making it up, like because people

704
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:59,840
go through life and they never have
any and then here's here's myself and many

705
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:05,039
of the individuals who have had many
more than one repeatable that you go out

706
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:07,480
and you look for them and they
happen. You ask for it, and

707
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:12,320
it shows up in the way of
consciousness and in the evolution of consciousness and

708
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,119
what you're expecting shows itself to you. It is very interesting as well.

709
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:23,239
But you know you have youthhology,
aliens, angels, all of those things.

710
00:56:24,159 --> 00:56:30,719
Yes, this is it sholf to
you, like even if it's real,

711
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,920
just to you. That's the interesting
thing. Like, because I wanted

712
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,960
to ask you, because we're talking
about consciousness. We're talking about beings that

713
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:44,039
are able to create or or you
know, take away matter, pull you

714
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:49,239
out of your spirit, maybe even
create if they are creators, Like what

715
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,360
about the connection that we have with
them or just the way the mind and

716
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:57,159
spirituality works. Is that like almost
like not the law of attraction, but

717
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,760
if you believe it, you created
it, Like what if that you know

718
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:05,000
that that the cf ive initiative that
you went out there, you wanted it

719
00:57:05,159 --> 00:57:08,920
so bad that it appeared. And
there's there's definitely done studies where other people

720
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:14,280
were able to you know, imagine
certain things happening, and the law of

721
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:19,079
attraction and manifestation and all this stuff. Sometimes it takes time, maybe something

722
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:22,960
that's going on with the consciousness.
But in any of the c fave stuff,

723
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,559
it's almost not instant, but it's
within a few hours maybe that this

724
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:35,760
you can connect. Yes, I
think maybe it didn't exist until you projected

725
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:40,239
that thought, that this ship or
this light came and said hello, Well,

726
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,000
you know, the mind is I
said, un consciousness is amazing.

727
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:47,920
And this may be the actual facilitation
of the whole of creation, and that

728
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:53,000
in this life we walk through one
single life here on this planet. We

729
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:57,320
may go through varied numbers of them. I believe that, but we may

730
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,880
not get the full answers until we
ourselves were turned back to source or to

731
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:04,840
our real place of origin as it
were, you know. And it could

732
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,000
be possible that we are projecting this
or sending a signal out for it to

733
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:13,960
come in so that we change or
transform on some deeper level of the psyche

734
00:58:14,039 --> 00:58:15,880
of the soul. One of the
things I will tell you that through the

735
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:20,400
main abduction that I had in nineteen
eighty nine, one of the characters that

736
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:24,000
was in it a gray. I
seem to recognize him, and it was

737
00:58:24,159 --> 00:58:30,159
very scary, but also yeah,
you know, I felt as though they

738
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:32,320
were old. That's the only way
I can explain it. I'm not saying

739
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:37,400
he looked old, but they felt
old. And there is another researcher psa

740
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:44,599
back, an author who has kind
of like put some pieces together with regards

741
00:58:44,639 --> 00:58:49,239
to the abduction that I missed,
because if you're honest and completely everything on

742
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,199
the table, he's been able to
put a piece to that together. And

743
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:59,760
I was like wow. And there
were also psychic impressions that I had afterwards

744
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,599
that I'm still trying to work out. And I'm not saying that this was

745
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:07,440
given by the Grays to me,
no, but it's possible that these had

746
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,639
come in the form of some conscious
opening or awareness that happens to all of

747
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:20,039
us. So we are looking at
multiple dimensional entities realities, and consciousness is

748
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:24,360
the main component that seems to be
responsible for this. Interesting. I agree

749
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,800
with what you say. Are we
creating this on a subconscious level ourselves?

750
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,920
And it comes back to us?
That has also crossed my mind as also

751
00:59:36,199 --> 00:59:40,360
that you know, we as a
genus were created from a blank canvas somewhere,

752
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:45,039
and perhaps the Grays are trying to
remind us, are perhaps of the

753
00:59:45,159 --> 00:59:50,400
dangers that we start to clone people? You know, we don't know,

754
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:53,079
I'm not going to go too far
down that road because I think I may

755
00:59:53,119 --> 01:00:00,000
be falling into some very difficult waters. But certainly the Grays and many other

756
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:06,000
inter dimensional beings our reality. They
come into our reality temporarily because we're not

757
01:00:06,199 --> 01:00:08,559
matched by the same frequencies, so
they can only use a certain amount of

758
01:00:08,639 --> 01:00:14,840
time or energy to manifest, and
that either we're matched by that density all

759
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,800
day with us, it doesn't matter. There's an integration process, yes,

760
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:23,760
and it's temporary. It's temporary,
but I believe that's something that's really incredible

761
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:30,639
and something that we're still looking into
researching. So you know, a lot

762
01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:34,760
of these things are in you the
public deceive the Grand Euifo deception along with

763
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,840
some amazing accounts as well, and
Philip Mantle UFO Royalty we call them over

764
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:47,599
here in England has been enormous help
and it's good that we bash out all

765
01:00:47,679 --> 01:00:52,159
our thoughts and ideas. But you'll
still get people saying, well, you're

766
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:54,960
wrong or you're barking up the wrong
tree. And that's fine. I've got

767
01:00:55,079 --> 01:01:00,119
past that point of feeling hurt from
the general public, from people who attack

768
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:07,639
you through you know, media means, and it's like, it's okay,

769
01:01:07,159 --> 01:01:12,400
I understand because you don't understand that, and I really respect that now,

770
01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,599
so it's okay. People say,
I don't believe you're saying, Well,

771
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:19,440
that's great, you know, seeing
what I've seen. If you were there

772
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:23,639
in nineteen ninety four, you might
have a different experience. Yeah, And

773
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:28,519
there's a level of respect. And
the interesting thing for me now and I

774
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:32,519
noticed it's coming from religion of being
one who used to proselytize and try to

775
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:36,840
convince people of my way of thinking
and the way of living and stuff.

776
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,000
Now I'm not really into that anymore. But I do still have a message.

777
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:44,800
I still have ideas that I'm trying
to get out. But I don't

778
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,880
care if you believe them or not. You know, I'm just sharing them.

779
01:01:47,559 --> 01:01:55,000
It's a beautiful thing now because people
find you don't even I'm not trying

780
01:01:55,039 --> 01:01:58,199
to. Hey, check out my
show like every now and then. But

781
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,400
for the most part, listen if
you want, If you the Google,

782
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:07,719
if you look up, if you're
interested in uthology and you're interested in all

783
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,440
of the topics that we cover,
the topics that you cover, people are

784
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:13,559
gonna find you. You don't have
to go out there and sell yourself and

785
01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:15,920
try to get the world to believe
that this is what's going on. Listen,

786
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,119
here is my research, and it's
and it's there. And because of

787
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:23,719
the Internet, now we just have
people from all over the world who resonate

788
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:29,079
with your work, who are who
are interested in what you've devoted your life

789
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:32,079
to and then they just come along
and and they learn and they share and

790
01:02:32,119 --> 01:02:36,679
all of that. And so that
is is so amazing now that we don't

791
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,039
have to really care what people think. You're gonna have people who are gonna

792
01:02:39,039 --> 01:02:42,559
scoff, but there's other people say, hey, your work has changed my

793
01:02:42,639 --> 01:02:46,000
life and I've had Yeah, that's
wonderful. And you know what I always

794
01:02:46,039 --> 01:02:47,679
say to them. If they don't, I say, let me see if

795
01:02:47,679 --> 01:02:52,199
I can try and find the zip
and pull the mask off. They look

796
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,639
at you as if you saying,
oh, it's a joke. You know,

797
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,159
I've got a wicked sense of human
and you need that because you know,

798
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,320
in a lot of the real tough
work that we're challenged with with regards

799
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:09,920
to the research and applying the theoretical
models that we do is fascinating. And

800
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:16,400
I will continue to do that until
the last breath. That I take on

801
01:03:16,559 --> 01:03:22,280
this planet that we call Earth.
But it is interesting, and I love

802
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:25,920
the people that I connect with very
much, you know, very grateful to

803
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:30,599
them, and you know, you
can only do what you can do.

804
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,119
But it's really strange because through all
the years and years and years that I've

805
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:37,360
been seeking for that truth, and
then you know, trying to get published

806
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,800
by publishers, and then getting published
by publishers and going forward and then losing

807
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,519
the publishers because they pass, and
finding Philip and other people. It's a

808
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:51,039
journey. And I'm more than happy
to put into the lap of the younger

809
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:55,440
generation what we know because you are
the mental, You carry the mental,

810
01:03:55,519 --> 01:04:00,639
you carry the light because you're going
to be here for a long time when

811
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,920
most of us people have left departed, you see, And well, but

812
01:04:04,039 --> 01:04:09,159
we'll have we may have the answers
then them. Yeah, I mean,

813
01:04:09,239 --> 01:04:13,599
I love you know. I dedicate
my work to too many researchers, and

814
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,000
I do music. I put a
lot of my US experiences in my in

815
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:21,239
my spirituality within my music, and
I dedicate the albums to these researchers who

816
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:26,719
have who are along gone. And
the interesting thing when we do our research

817
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,039
on that there there were a lot
of people who had a lot to say

818
01:04:30,159 --> 01:04:33,639
in the past, uh that we
can we can draw from whether it is

819
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,239
you know, ufology, spirituality,
all of it. And so I definitely

820
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,880
like to echo and turn new people
onto a lot of old work that we

821
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,920
don't have to recreate the wheel when
it comes to a lot of this either.

822
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:48,920
So it's really brilliant. Thanks for
coming on, man, I really

823
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,960
enjoyed this talk. Let people know
where they can go to check out your

824
01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:56,440
your work, your books and everything
that you're bringing to the table. What's

825
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,719
the best place for people to go
to check out your work? Well,

826
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,199
amaz and you know that it's the
normal place. We all know Amazon,

827
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:04,800
it's the safest place and at least
we as authors know we get paid for

828
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:11,039
them as like the other publish And
I'm on Facebook and you know, you

829
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:14,360
just type in my name and you
know there we are. But I want

830
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,480
to thank you because we're all important, we're all special. No one you

831
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:20,960
know, no one's the number one. We are all linked together. And

832
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:26,320
I think that's the important message to
tell everyone that keep doing your own research

833
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,239
and believe in what you believe,
what it makes you feel right for you.

834
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,199
So don't change for anyone. But
I want to thank you certainly for

835
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:38,000
having me on your most excellent show, and I'm always very grateful. I

836
01:05:38,119 --> 01:05:41,039
never seek it, but I'm more
than happy to talk if people want to

837
01:05:41,079 --> 01:05:44,320
talk to me for sure. Thank
you so much. Philip really enjoyed it.

838
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,039
Man, Let's do it again.
God bless take care, God bless

839
01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:53,679
me. Bye bye, Philip Cansello. Ladies and gentlemen, good talk.

840
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:58,079
Listen. A lot of different opinions. I'm watching the chat, a lot

841
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:01,880
of different opinions, a lot of
different belief systems when it comes to all

842
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,920
of this stuff, and what if
they're all true? Again the consciousness thing.

843
01:06:08,599 --> 01:06:12,159
What if what you believe shows itself
to you. So there's people who

844
01:06:12,159 --> 01:06:15,960
would say that these are demons,
and you know, what if that is

845
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,679
your truth? What if demons are
showing themselves to you? What if they

846
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:25,320
are appearing to you? But what
if they are angels? What if it

847
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:30,920
is the angelic? What if it
is what some would say, Well,

848
01:06:31,079 --> 01:06:36,239
they say that they are us from
the future. That is, it is

849
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:43,119
us that is highly evolved coming back
to say hello to ourselves as in us,

850
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:49,480
maybe not you, but maybe humans
who have evolved millions of years later

851
01:06:50,519 --> 01:06:54,440
coming back say hello, what if
they're just people from other star systems,

852
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:59,199
other dimensions. That was the thing
with the interdimensionals what he kept saying.

853
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:03,400
And there's a lot of people who
definitely use that term interdimensional that you know.

854
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:08,199
Obviously the flat earthers use that term
because they say space isn't real,

855
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:12,000
Space doesn't exist, it's it's not
what we think it is. So there

856
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:15,800
is no entities living on other planets
or traveling from star systems, but they

857
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:23,559
are interdimensional beings that travel here.
The avatar thing is very interesting that we

858
01:07:23,719 --> 01:07:29,719
have the ability to go into other
realms that we need a suit. You

859
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:34,639
guys remember the movie Avatar, right
where they had to create this character to

860
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:40,280
go in, but it wasn't really
another realm. Maybe then when we get

861
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:47,239
into technology, it's like the lawnmower
man. I mean Facebook, YouTube personas

862
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:54,760
that you create a version of you
that exists in another realm and technology,

863
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,000
Facebook and all this stuff. This
is the Internet. This is a persona,

864
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,800
it's you exist as that avatar.
I mean, it definitely happens within

865
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:06,159
technology. There are games called second
life, you know, there are games

866
01:08:06,239 --> 01:08:12,280
that people play that are really popular. Second Life is a big one where

867
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,319
people will create an avatar, a
character of themselves, and they can rename

868
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:18,920
it, they can make it look
however they want, and they can project

869
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:24,800
themselves in that game and live as
that character and talk to the AI,

870
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:30,399
talk to the NPCs, the non
playable characters, have dialogue all that stuff,

871
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:32,720
and then other people can drop into
that realm as well, like other

872
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:39,000
real people can create their character and
then they do stuff. There's people who

873
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:44,520
get jobs on the game, like
they have to. Instead of going to

874
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,880
a real job, they log into
this game and they go and do a

875
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:53,960
job for hours on end. Some
of them are getting really realistic to like

876
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:58,520
you're a police officer, you're a
construction worker, and literally you go to

877
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:02,800
these jobs and you generate in come
and coins in that game that you can't

878
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:10,479
spend in this world. Like in
your real reality you can't spend that money.

879
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,800
But in that game, you can
build a nice house, you can

880
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,520
create a beautiful family. You can
have your kids that listen to you and

881
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:24,279
look up to you and respect you. Whatever that again, you can create

882
01:09:24,359 --> 01:09:28,319
the life that you want within that
AI, that realm that is not real,

883
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,479
but it's real to you while you're
there, the dream state movies,

884
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,520
all of this stuff. It's very
interesting. It is a realm. It's

885
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:43,000
a member a game called Lord of
the Realms, and it was very similar.

886
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,119
You know, you were able to
go into the game and have these

887
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:50,039
people that you made allies with and
pacts with, and every time you go

888
01:09:50,119 --> 01:09:54,640
back into that game, you get
to say hello. There's tons of movies

889
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,279
based on this stuff. But what
about again, the Terrence McKenna who goes

890
01:09:58,319 --> 01:10:06,800
into the monic realm of psilocybin and
ayahuasca and all of this stuff DMNT and

891
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:15,760
they're revisiting friends, They're seeing people
in this other realm that they get to

892
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,600
say hello to. What about when
you sleep? Have you, guys,

893
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:23,760
ever had that experience, like when
you go to sleep and you dream,

894
01:10:24,039 --> 01:10:30,840
y'all ever been to a place that's
familiar? Do you have friends? What

895
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,479
about friends when you dream? Like
people who show up to you and they're

896
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:39,760
your friends and you don't know them
in real life, but in the dream

897
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:45,000
you know them. And you've had
multiple dreams where that person keeps showing up.

898
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:53,720
You have a friend in their dream
state. It gets deep. I

899
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,800
don't know how uneth i don't even
know that it's unethical that if we look

900
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,840
at it, you have to put
you have to walk a mile in their

901
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:08,359
shoes. I don't know how unethical
it would be for the abduction stuff to

902
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:14,239
really even be happening if you wanted
to. There are other realms that exist.

903
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:17,680
They don't speak most of them don't
speak English. But I guess the

904
01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:28,600
more we would say advanced species of
aliens communicate telepathically. They communicate without words,

905
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:34,960
some communicate sign language, pictographs,
There's different ways that they communicate.

906
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:46,680
It's interesting to think about. It's
just like an ant. How would you

907
01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:53,960
essentially an ant lives and they have
their own world an ant has. You

908
01:11:54,079 --> 01:11:57,920
can't speak English to an ant and
train it and it knows what you're saying.

909
01:11:58,319 --> 01:12:00,600
Again, Philip was even talking about
this. If we drop our cell

910
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:06,319
phones in an ant pile and the
ants build around it, they don't even

911
01:12:06,319 --> 01:12:12,000
know how to work this technology.
Probably even in a million years, ten

912
01:12:12,079 --> 01:12:16,920
million years, they wouldn't. Most
likely they could not evolve to the fact

913
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,079
that they were able to even power
this thing on and get in here and

914
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:29,960
pull up my Facebook and message my
stalkers. Like it's just foreign to them.

915
01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:36,000
They couldn't use it. They can't. You can't communicate with them.

916
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,479
They exist, and that's something physical. I guess that's a physical too,

917
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,000
because I always like to tie in
the spirituality, the spirit realm too,

918
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:55,560
the biological realm, in the microscopic
realm. The microscopic organisms that live on

919
01:12:55,640 --> 01:13:00,079
your body. You can't talk to
them. Hey man, stop, you

920
01:13:00,159 --> 01:13:04,439
know they're literally fighting one another right
now. Like if we go get soap

921
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:11,960
and wash your hands or take medicine. There's just wars and battles going on

922
01:13:12,119 --> 01:13:15,640
on your body with living organisms that
live on you, living your hair.

923
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:21,239
You know, they live all over
your body and they're living there. You

924
01:13:21,279 --> 01:13:25,600
can't communicate with them. You can't
talk to them. They can affect you,

925
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,119
though, So how would you do
it? Like, how could you

926
01:13:29,319 --> 01:13:33,279
like to communicate with them? Very
interesting to watch those videos of the microscopic

927
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:39,199
organisms fighting one another. There'll be
like these little amiebas or whatever, and

928
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:45,239
another one will come and he's doing
he's going around eating these little little pieces

929
01:13:45,279 --> 01:13:47,079
of trash or something. I don't
know what they're eating. It's very interesting.

930
01:13:47,119 --> 01:13:51,000
It's a world within a world that's
happening on you. They go around

931
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:55,760
and eat these little like pac Man, just eating these little pieces of trash,

932
01:13:56,119 --> 01:14:00,239
and a big one will come up
and just eat him, and he

933
01:14:00,359 --> 01:14:08,920
digests them and it becomes a part
of him. It's crazy, gut rot,

934
01:14:09,039 --> 01:14:15,359
gut bacteria, your gut biome,
that all of this stuff is communicating

935
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,479
and becoming a part of you.
Rat masters saying, yeah, you gotta

936
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:27,319
eat healthy, yeah, because that
just like that organism eats another organism and

937
01:14:27,399 --> 01:14:30,560
it becomes a part of them.
Whatever you eat becomes a part of you.

938
01:14:32,039 --> 01:14:36,359
We're getting deep going from one subject
to the next. But you see

939
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:41,840
how it's all connected. But how
do you communicate with those entities. You

940
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:47,960
have to become that entity. You
have to become a multicell organism and shrink

941
01:14:48,039 --> 01:14:51,520
down to their level. I mean. It just even ties into religion with

942
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:59,039
Jesus, as people believe that Jesus
is God, that God's trying to communicate

943
01:14:59,119 --> 01:15:02,079
with us and we can't hear them. He created us, but we don't

944
01:15:02,159 --> 01:15:08,239
listen. So he had to become
one of us and walk down here with

945
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:15,479
us to communicate, and we killed
them. Live right, love one another,

946
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,520
stand up for the broken, feed
the hungry, and they kill them.

947
01:15:23,039 --> 01:15:29,319
So God left his throne, his
dimension and incarnated as an avatar into

948
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,720
our dimension so that he can talk
to us, so that he can lead

949
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:39,880
and guide and help, and they
kill him. What else is like?

950
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:45,880
What's the difference with the alien scenario? If we if most people say it's

951
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:54,279
likely we already have have alien technology
or crashed UFO, we're doing experiments on

952
01:15:54,359 --> 01:15:59,199
them. We do it on monkeys, we do it on animals. We're

953
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:02,439
doing it. Government is definitely running
tests on these beings and chaining them up

954
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:06,279
and put them in cages. So
why would they not do it to us

955
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,119
to run testing experiments on us?
Come down an experiment and see what makes

956
01:16:13,199 --> 01:16:15,239
us tick? What makes us scared? Yeah? Show them images of war,

957
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:19,159
See what happens, Show them their
planet exploding. See how they feel.

958
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:24,159
Are they moved with empathy? They
can read your org filled and your

959
01:16:24,199 --> 01:16:30,640
emotions. Man, Some of them
react this way. Others don't care.

960
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:36,640
Some people like it. Some people
like it. When the plant we show

961
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:42,319
them a image of their planet being
destroyed, and they like it. They

962
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:47,760
hate people they like it, and
so like we're getting it. I don't

963
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:53,560
think that from your perspective, it
was unpleasant. You didn't like it,

964
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,720
I was taken out of my bed
and brought on this ship, and they'd

965
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,520
done these tests on me. Look
at it. You have to look at

966
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,039
it from your always have to put
the shoe on the other foot. You

967
01:17:01,119 --> 01:17:08,119
have to put yourself in their shoes
and see what's going on. Because I

968
01:17:08,199 --> 01:17:15,199
think that it's bigger than just us
and the UFO phenomena, alien abduction scenarios

969
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:18,359
and all of that. Very interesting, very near and dear to my heart.

970
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:25,039
I have a different relationship with a
lot of that. Now. It

971
01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:30,479
started out with evil aliens, evil
angels, demons, all that kind of

972
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:35,000
stuff, but it progressed into the
angelic put Palladians. You know what I'm

973
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:42,680
saying. Beings of light love and
eviborate at a higher frequency. You do

974
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,199
have falling entities. Fallen angels are
real, but I don't think that they're

975
01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:51,880
riding around in spacecraft that they created. Put it that way. Fallen angels

976
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:58,439
are real. How did they fall? If you've read my book, you

977
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:04,079
know where I'm going. But they
were kicked out of heaven. It doesn't

978
01:18:04,119 --> 01:18:10,000
take too much research to look up
and see what heaven is. Heaven is

979
01:18:10,079 --> 01:18:15,760
the sky. When you look up
at the clouds and the stars and the

980
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,159
sun and the moon. You're looking
and you're gazing into the heavens. It's

981
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:23,720
the same words that she use there
in the Greek and the Hebrew. Heaven

982
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:30,600
is the sky when you do the
research, and then these these angels were

983
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,680
kicked out of heaven. If you're
kicked out, you don't get to just

984
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,560
fly back to heaven when you create
a spacecraft and fly through the skies.

985
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:43,560
They're here on the earth with people. They're here with us. They're not

986
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:54,960
up there. Beauty, benevolence or
wonder, creativity, guidance, all of

987
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,960
that. It's from above. If
you listen to my music, you know

988
01:18:59,039 --> 01:19:04,880
that's a big part of it.
So yeah, I'm big into it.

989
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:11,039
Man. Thank y'all for hanging out. Thank you for hanging out. I

990
01:19:11,119 --> 01:19:17,720
had a TikTok video that is very
interesting. That TikTok video went kind of

991
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:25,239
went viral overnight. It's interesting that
I'll put the same video on all the

992
01:19:25,319 --> 01:19:30,319
platforms Instagram, YouTube, Facebook.
I get twenty views, thirty views,

993
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:36,640
one hundred and eighteen views on on
YouTube. You know, we did the

994
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:41,399
thing where we went out and gave
a guy outside the road who was in

995
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:45,800
a wheelchair selling candies and cokes and
stuff. We gave him five hundred dollars,

996
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:48,239
but that was donated from other people. I didn't give him my money.

997
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,840
Other people donated so that we can
do that. We've done two videos

998
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:58,000
already and they get thirty views,
forty views, you know. But I

999
01:19:58,079 --> 01:20:03,520
put it on TikTok last night.
Let me look and see how many views

1000
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,720
it is. I'm saying that because
I want you to follow me on TikTok.

1001
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:10,479
I'm probably about to start using it
more definitely has more organic reach,

1002
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:17,079
and it's pretty fun. But I'm
gonna try to look at how many I

1003
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:27,000
put a video up yesterday. Let's
see, and it is at fifty thousand

1004
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:33,159
views. That's not going to focus. But fifty thousand views. I made

1005
01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:36,039
a one minute snippet out of a
ten minute video. Very hard to do,

1006
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:43,359
but yeah, follow me on there. It's kind of blown up.

1007
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:46,000
Pretty cool, more reach. It's
so weird to me because I haven't had

1008
01:20:46,159 --> 01:20:50,920
a lot of like easy organic reach
in years. I used to definitely in

1009
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,359
the early days of YouTube and Facebook
and all that. When you when you

1010
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,720
like when you built up your page
and built up your audience and you put

1011
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,960
something out, it would let every
everybody see it. They don't do that

1012
01:21:01,079 --> 01:21:11,119
anymore. I get thirty views,
you know, So it's very strange to

1013
01:21:13,319 --> 01:21:15,279
have put something out that goes viral. I used to All of my podcasts

1014
01:21:15,359 --> 01:21:18,640
used to be super viral on YouTube. Like I said, I've been doing

1015
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,920
this for a long time. Now
everybody has a podcast. But I remember

1016
01:21:24,039 --> 01:21:29,920
putting putting out YouTube videos and live
streams and all that, and I get

1017
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:34,680
fifty sixty thousand views on whack content
Like it wasn't that quality was real bad,

1018
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:40,840
all of that stuff. But it's
real. But it's went down over

1019
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:47,239
time. It's more crowded, right. The everyone's a creator. Everyone's doing

1020
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,960
the same stuff you're doing now.
So to be a pioneer doing that stuff

1021
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:56,239
early on, it's changed over the
years. So I don't get a lot

1022
01:21:56,319 --> 01:22:01,079
of viral videos anymore, you know. I So to see that video overnight

1023
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:05,960
blow up to fifty thousand views,
it's pretty cool. Follow me on TikTok.

1024
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,279
I may do something on there.
It's pretty creative. TikTok guide us

1025
01:22:10,319 --> 01:22:15,439
through the pandemic, man, it's
getting us through the pandemic. TikTok is

1026
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:24,600
TikTok made us all laugh, made
us all focus our attention on other stuff

1027
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,479
when they're trying to scare us on
the television and scare us with the news

1028
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,479
and millions are gonna die, Millions
upon millions are going to die, and

1029
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:35,199
they got us all scared. Man, turned the TV off and put on

1030
01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:40,760
TikTok. Man, let's just scroll
and laugh and look at funny cat videos

1031
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,800
and parents pulling pranks on their kids
and stuff. I'm telling you, TikTok

1032
01:22:45,319 --> 01:22:47,640
guide us through the pandemic, and
it's getting us through the pandemic. Follow

1033
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:51,479
me on TikTok. That's the platform
typing truth seeker on TikTok. You'll love

1034
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:54,560
it. I'm trying to get creative
with it. I have a bunch of

1035
01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,399
my songs on there where I just
I go back and forth rap a couple

1036
01:23:00,399 --> 01:23:03,760
of bars and other people are duetting
it and finishing the lyrics or whatever,

1037
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:08,119
like rapping my songs with me.
It's pretty cool. So you can do

1038
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:12,000
it videos and do that a bunch
of really cool stuff, inspirational stuff.

1039
01:23:13,319 --> 01:23:15,439
We're gonna keep doing it too,
And so if anybody wants to give,

1040
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,800
because we're gonna create more videos.
We've already got people continuing to give.

1041
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:23,119
I did one I wanted to do
it, asked for a donation. We

1042
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:26,079
went out and did the homeless video. We gave this dude. We spent

1043
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:29,680
a thousand dollars on a random homeless
guy. I put it out there.

1044
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,159
I wanted to do it. Everybody
donated. We made a thousand bucks and

1045
01:23:33,279 --> 01:23:38,640
I went out and we wined and
dined them, took him out to eat,

1046
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,920
took him to Walmart, Hey,
buy whatever you want. He was

1047
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:44,760
just traveling through. He was just
on the road walking. Hey you need

1048
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,560
a ride. Boom, yeah,
jumped in. That's a long video too.

1049
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:50,600
I'm gonna turn that into a short
clip too. You know, people's

1050
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,319
attention spans are short. They ain't
got time to get to the juice or

1051
01:23:54,359 --> 01:23:57,119
to meet the juicy part or the
meat and potatoes. They just want it

1052
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,800
there. So boom, I'm gonna
end edit that ten minute video or twenty

1053
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,439
minute video into a one minute video
and make a little highlight reel. It's

1054
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:09,479
very hard to do, but I'm
gonna do that. So the full videos

1055
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,520
are up. You can watch them
on YouTube if you want to watch the

1056
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,279
full videos, but if not,
you can watch the little one one minute

1057
01:24:15,279 --> 01:24:19,079
clips too. So we've done too
so far. We're gonna do more.

1058
01:24:19,199 --> 01:24:24,199
Are people are giving, people are
donating to this cause. If you want

1059
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:28,000
to do it my cash app,
go to my cash app on my Venmo,

1060
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,520
but follow me on those other platforms
too. So we're gonna do more

1061
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,560
videos. Like I had somebody donating
a large, large amount. They want

1062
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:39,199
to be with me when I shoot
it. So we're just gonna go out

1063
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:41,760
helping people. Man, making it
famous. Man, you know what I'm

1064
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,520
saying, Doing videos that inspire people
to do good works. People. Oh

1065
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,920
well, you gotta film it because
y'all filming. They got a video went

1066
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:56,840
viral this week. It's the dude's
slapping another guy with like a a t

1067
01:24:57,239 --> 01:24:59,720
y'all see that video, right,
The guy's calling them the N word,

1068
01:25:00,199 --> 01:25:04,880
the bag and to do grabs a
can of tea and millions upon millions upon

1069
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:10,600
millions of views. Funny, he
got what was coming to him. And

1070
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,920
there's a bunch of other videos of
people doing negative stuff that gets viral that

1071
01:25:16,039 --> 01:25:24,560
goes famous. Challenges the condom challenge
you ever heard of that that was viral

1072
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:28,560
for a little while. Kids were
doing it. What is it? Take

1073
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,159
the condom, snort it up your
nose, reach in your mouth, and

1074
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:34,800
pull it out your mouth. These
were challenges that got real popular that went

1075
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:40,560
viral. Stupid stuff. The knockout
challenge? Where was that? Find a

1076
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,520
random person, walk up behind him, hit him as hard as you can,

1077
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,399
somebody you don't know, and try
to knock him out. They were

1078
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:51,479
doing it to old people, young
thugs going up behind old people knocking them

1079
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:57,119
out for no reason. Knockout challenge
went viral. Guess what we're going to

1080
01:25:57,199 --> 01:26:01,239
do, beautiful challenges. We're going
to make, you know, inspirational videos

1081
01:26:01,279 --> 01:26:05,079
and make that go viral. We
should be doing it, whether recording it

1082
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:15,119
or not. So the Twisted Tea. So do Oculus Virgins? What is

1083
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:23,680
that? Is that people for the
first time playing Is that what you mean,

1084
01:26:24,079 --> 01:26:30,880
Chris? The Oculus Virgins like the
first time they play Oculus. Yeah,

1085
01:26:31,079 --> 01:26:34,359
So if y'all seen that, that's
on I need to put it on

1086
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:39,760
TikTok. It's not on TikTok.
But my buddy Phil came over the other

1087
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:44,399
day and let me see, I
probably show this to you guys. If

1088
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,560
you're listening to the podcast app,
which most people are listening on the podcast.

1089
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,079
You're not gonna be able to see
this, but let me see if

1090
01:26:50,119 --> 01:27:02,000
I can show this on the video
if that's what you meant by Oculus Virgins.

1091
01:27:02,039 --> 01:27:09,800
First time playing Oculus? What is
this called? I gotta fix this

1092
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,640
stuff me and web. That's not
the screen. It's gonna be the other

1093
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:19,039
one. So sorry for this,
guys. There's zoom so that's me.

1094
01:27:19,319 --> 01:27:32,560
I'm fix this real quick on stream. Try to anyway. Boom oh that

1095
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:40,119
should be it. Yeah, okay
for those of you who are listening,

1096
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:44,319
you're not really getting to see much
but or hear much. But I'm gonna

1097
01:27:44,319 --> 01:27:46,319
show you this video, he said, Oculus version. So this is my

1098
01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:51,000
I did one with my wife,
but my buddy Phil came over I think

1099
01:27:51,039 --> 01:27:55,279
the day after Christmas or Christmas Eve
or something. Let me see if I

1100
01:27:55,319 --> 01:27:57,920
can find it. It's my Facebook
page. If you're not following me,

1101
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:03,479
follow me on Facebook. Right here. This is my buddy Phil. Let

1102
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:08,199
me see. I have to change
here. Were hold on, don't hit

1103
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:21,439
me? Feel whoop his butt?
Phil? Grab something at the bar.

1104
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,920
You gotta get him off of your
first day. Go hit him in the

1105
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,479
job ooh he duck, oh,
guide him Phil, Grab something at the

1106
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:43,600
bar. Pick it up. Wait, wait, grab something at the bar.

1107
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:53,199
Phil They coming, they coming,
They're coming for you. A big

1108
01:28:53,279 --> 01:28:57,159
dude. All he's gonna be hard. Is that what you're talking about,

1109
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,600
Because I'll let him play this.
This is this first time. And then

1110
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:09,039
I have one called Richie's Plank Experience
experience or something, and you getting the

1111
01:29:09,119 --> 01:29:13,520
elevator and I put I turned it
on for him and uh, and he

1112
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,359
didn't know what it was. And
I turned it on and I told him

1113
01:29:15,399 --> 01:29:17,319
to get in the elevator. So
he gets in an elevator. I said,

1114
01:29:17,319 --> 01:29:19,159
push it a little button right there, go up to the top floor.

1115
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:23,960
So he pushes the button and he's
in the oculus or whatever, and

1116
01:29:24,079 --> 01:29:27,119
it takes him to the top floor. And then the elevator opens up,

1117
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:30,960
chi ching and it gets out and
he's like way up in this on the

1118
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,079
skyscraper, looking down like he's been
in the fall. I was like,

1119
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,680
and there's a little bitty plank out
in front of him. I said,

1120
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:39,479
get out, get out, and
get out and walk across the plane.

1121
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,560
He said no, wait. I
try to grab his shirt and pull him.

1122
01:29:45,359 --> 01:29:48,239
He's like a lot of people fall
down and do a little funny stuff

1123
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:53,960
their first time playing. It's a
trip. So anyway, I a little

1124
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,319
fun stuff like that. If you
don't follow me on TikTok, I'll probably

1125
01:29:56,319 --> 01:29:59,199
be doing a lot more stuff on
there because I'm getting more reach. We

1126
01:29:59,319 --> 01:30:02,800
do these video and stuff when we
get one hundred views. Man, you

1127
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:08,840
know what I'm saying and freaking getting
fifty thousand views on TikTok. The algorithms,

1128
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,600
man, they're suppressing a lot of
this stuff. Most of myself won't

1129
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:15,119
even show up in Google. If
you look at a lot of my songs,

1130
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:17,439
if you try to find a music
video, you can't find them.

1131
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,640
If you try to find like,
you could type in my name and the

1132
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,680
name of the song, it won't
even bring it up. It'll bring you

1133
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:30,000
something by Blake Shelton. What the
heck you type in true Seek a fly

1134
01:30:30,119 --> 01:30:35,359
to the navigator and it pulls up
Blake Shelton Friday Night Lights, something like

1135
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:41,560
what the hell? Nobody listen SEO. All of this stuff should work up

1136
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:46,079
if you're looking for it. Why
would it give you something else besides the

1137
01:30:46,199 --> 01:30:55,079
video? It seems to fluctuate.
I only think that it is something I've

1138
01:30:55,079 --> 01:30:59,319
complained about this a lot. It
messes you up. It definitely messes you

1139
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:00,960
up. I do complain about this
a lot. It sucks, but it

1140
01:31:01,039 --> 01:31:04,680
fluctuates. So let me see if
I can show you here. So we're

1141
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:11,319
on my YouTube, and sometimes sometimes
it works, other times it doesn't.

1142
01:31:11,359 --> 01:31:15,399
So let's just try a couple.
Sometimes I'll get on here and it works,

1143
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,439
so all of this complaining is in
vain. But other times I get

1144
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,920
on it and I can't find myself
nowhere. So let's just but I have

1145
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:28,760
to search for myself. Let's try
a truth seeker flight of the nav I

1146
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,399
g e. T or flight as
a navigator. Okay, that comes up

1147
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,039
now. It used to not come
up. I had to keep looking forward.

1148
01:31:34,079 --> 01:31:39,600
Let's see truth Seeker hopefully, hopefully
they fixed it. Let's see if

1149
01:31:42,359 --> 01:31:44,920
what is some more of my songs
that I got videos to. Let's see

1150
01:31:44,960 --> 01:32:00,479
Golden Teachers boom looking good, looking
good, Disciples of the Mysterium, Disciples

1151
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,760
of the It's on the official page, so that's working. Let's see.

1152
01:32:08,199 --> 01:32:12,960
Uh seems to be working better now, but there was a time where all

1153
01:32:13,039 --> 01:32:23,479
of this stuff was hidden. Let's
a truth seekod starlight. Huh. That's

1154
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,800
great, love it. I'm glad
I'm proved wrong at this now, but

1155
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,920
there definitely was a time where this
stuff wasn't coming up when I typed in

1156
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:39,800
the name of it. I can't
hate on that. Can't hate on that,

1157
01:32:40,279 --> 01:32:45,880
all right, guys, TC Texas
as my brother, I made it.

1158
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:47,520
I love you. What's up?
Man? Twitter is getting a lot

1159
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:51,680
worse with the same situation. Illuminus
says, yeah, man, my Twitter

1160
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:57,399
game sucks. Always has. I
get zero reached on Twitter, never never

1161
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:00,640
gotten anything, even with my Facebook
popping, like I've been stuck at like

1162
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:09,960
almost like fifteen point five thousand views
and I don't get any new new reach.

1163
01:33:10,079 --> 01:33:15,319
I don't get any I don't get
anything on That sucks. There was

1164
01:33:15,359 --> 01:33:18,520
a time where it was popping.
It was popping for sure, reached a

1165
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:23,119
lot of people, But now you
gotta pay So with that, I'm gonna

1166
01:33:23,119 --> 01:33:25,800
say, peace, y'all really enjoyed
this. Y'all have a happy New Year.

1167
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:29,880
Man, stay safe out there,
and uh it's gonna be good.

1168
01:33:30,079 --> 01:33:35,640
So I'll holler at y'all later.
We'll do more. We got more coming,

1169
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:48,560
shaloon. Peace joke so much,
so much, so much, so

1170
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:54,399
much deeper. Well that doesn't for
this episode, folks, to hear more

1171
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,880
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1172
01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,239
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1173
01:34:01,319 --> 01:34:08,760
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