WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.439 --> 00:00:06.440 Fame. He'd like to be walked on a leash and play really dirty, 2 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:11.160 kinky sex games. He's uh the guy put the cock in the peacock network. 3 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:14.880 Okay, bitch, don't call to come back. I've been here for 4 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:18.519 years. I'm rucking my peers, putting something's in fear making the tears rain 5 00:00:18.640 --> 00:00:22.480 down like a monsoon. Listen to the basic boom. Hey, everybody's a 6 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:28.039 j Benzi here with your free show for September eighteenth, twenty twenty three. 7 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:32.079 Yes, indeed, don't call to come back. I didn't go far. 8 00:00:32.119 --> 00:00:37.000 I was gone a month. Did you miss me? Did you find yourself 9 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:41.159 saying where's aj? Did you find yourself saying let's put this fucking guy all 10 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:45.200 my shows? I know I got a bunch of yelling and screaming at me. 11 00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:48.079 I appreciate it. It means you're longed to content, you like to 12 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:51.240 content, but you want it. I get it. I just wanted to 13 00:00:51.240 --> 00:00:53.799 give you a little bit of you know, I'm gonna give you a little 14 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.520 shit for that's all. I want you guys in the team. I want 15 00:00:56.520 --> 00:01:00.039 you as patrons, so you know, once in a while I rain the 16 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.840 horse say a little bit. See if you love me, You're not because 17 00:01:03.879 --> 00:01:08.040 I love you anyway, I'm moving on. Guys. This is your free 18 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:15.319 show September eighteenth, twenty twenty three, your first free show since August seventeenth. 19 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.920 Honestly, I decided enough time has passed and it was time to get 20 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:23.239 back on the horse and record some free shows for you guys. So honestly, 21 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:26.879 I want to encourage you to become patrons. It was a hell of 22 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:30.319 a month gang, A lot of good stuff, A lot of stories broke 23 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.680 that I was on top of and have been on top of for months. 24 00:01:34.640 --> 00:01:38.840 Some I was on top for years. Take for example, Hugh Jackman and 25 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:46.519 Debrahly Fernas separating. I'm not hanging on two thin of a branch when I 26 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.640 said the end was near for those two lovebirds a long time ago. This 27 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:53.760 has been a twenty seven year lavender marriage. I don't care what you see 28 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:59.280 in the news or in the papers. Run the internet of Hugh Jackman riding 29 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.439 his bike, look looking so upset and said, you know, he's riding 30 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.239 a bike for Manhattan, the filthiest rat hole in America. That's why he 31 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:15.919 said, twenty seven years they're married. Am I showing my age? By 32 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:21.080 using the term lavender marriage. You guys know what that means. Many years 33 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:24.479 ago, lavender marriage. Lavender was the color used to represent homosexuals, and 34 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:29.319 there were tons of these lavender marriages in Hollywood, and it still are today. 35 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:34.560 It's but you know, it's not quite as damaging to an actor's career 36 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:37.199 as it used to be. But I you know, I pegged this is 37 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.560 a lavender marriage a long time ago. And again I'm not saying that I'm 38 00:02:39.599 --> 00:02:44.639 the great Kreskin. I think I'm dating myself with the Kreskin reference as well. 39 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:46.560 See, Kreskin was a guy that Johnny Costing used to play who could 40 00:02:46.599 --> 00:02:53.159 read minds and do whatever. But some of these marriages, lavender marriage is 41 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:58.680 back on the old days in Hollywood's golden era. That's a big famous people. 42 00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:04.680 During the nineteen twenties, many people believed that the actor Rudolph Valentino was 43 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:12.599 gay, and this information would eventually lead to a public relations problem and obviously 44 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:16.319 affect the worldwide acceptance of the handsome, top rated actor. The Latin lover, 45 00:03:17.639 --> 00:03:20.680 by the way, put a pin in that for a second. I 46 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:23.560 told you guys, well, I told my patrons about the first bungalow I've 47 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:28.599 moved into. When I first came to Hollywood, it was a place called 48 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:36.560 Normandy Towers and it was designed and built by Charlie Chaplin. In fact, 49 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:40.759 he lived there. It was so close to the Warner Brothers lot that back 50 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:46.879 then actors would take horses to and from the set. And when I lived 51 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.719 there, I was in number nine. Number nine is where Malan Monroe once 52 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:57.080 lived. I'm talking tiny bungalow like I didn't even have room for a couch 53 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:01.120 bigger than four feet in My living room was hardly living room. The kitchen 54 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:04.520 was the size of a bathroom, you know, But I loved it. 55 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:09.159 You have to see what I'm taught. Go on go online and look up 56 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:13.360 Normandy Towers. If you get a chance, you'll see how quaint and really 57 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:16.199 pretty and beautiful it is now. But the only reason I found that place 58 00:04:16.319 --> 00:04:19.560 was because I linked up with this girl I was friendly with the New York 59 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:24.600 City. She was a stripper. We h got a lot, good girl. 60 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.480 And when I came to La looking for a place, I was in 61 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.199 here yet I was visiting staying my uncle Vinny. I knew she worked in 62 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:34.519 La. She moved I went to the restaurant to go see her at the 63 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:40.680 Bellache Hotel and let's go out for drinks. And we go back to her 64 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:43.639 place, and she was living in Normandy Towers, and I couldn't believe what 65 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:46.759 I was looking at. Beautiful smells, the boorgan villa, vines everywhere, 66 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.920 there's lavender in the air. Then you lipt this trees. Oh, it 67 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:56.160 was like the smells was so different than New York City, and I couldn't 68 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.399 believe how small and quaint these places were. So she began to give me 69 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.759 the history of the place, and she told me she was living in the 70 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:09.240 bungalow that Rudolph Valentino used to live in. Valentino was known as a Latin 71 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:13.079 lover, like I said, and his exploits with both men and women were 72 00:05:13.199 --> 00:05:16.879 known all around town. And she moved a piece of furniture to show me 73 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:23.240 these three old rusted bolts that were still sticking out of the floor. And 74 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:28.240 the story goes that Valentino had built a sex chair in that spot, and 75 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:30.879 he never bothered to remove the bolts when he left, so the bolts have 76 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.519 always stayed there, and no one fox with the bolts because it's history and 77 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:42.759 man it's a great story. Texts were to live there. So many people. 78 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.720 I gotta look it up, so many people. It was so close 79 00:05:45.759 --> 00:05:47.680 to the studio that it was just easy to go to work and come back 80 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:54.079 home. Great. I mean the list of people who lived there, unbelieving, 81 00:05:54.160 --> 00:06:00.560 Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks, Sior, Adolf Manjoux, Gertrude Astor, 82 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.439 Claudette Colbert Man. Forget about it. You gotta look on the website. 83 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:10.199 It's beautiful, really beautiful. Seven two one nine Hampton Amnue. They say 84 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:12.959 West Hollywood, it's not. It's Hollywood period. I don't know where West 85 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.399 comes from. But yeah, a little diversion there for a second, because 86 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.639 they just brings back some great memories of me living there with me my little 87 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:24.839 my little dog Chesiray, my little Yorkie. Next to me was a a 88 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:29.680 fully tattooed rocker named Johnny Hawaiian. He's online too. You can't miss this 89 00:06:29.720 --> 00:06:32.360 guy. His whole face was tatted, his whole body's tatted, long before 90 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:38.240 people were doing that. Everything on his face just handsome. Kid looked like 91 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:42.639 Matt Damon, but all covered up with tats and a big heroin addict and 92 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.600 crazy stories with that guy. He was always getting sick and I'm me, 93 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:48.360 I'm so stupid. I go, Johnny, you're thrown up again. Yeah, 94 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:51.800 I had bad Chinese food. He was. He was going through withdrawals 95 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:56.560 and finally we need admitted to me. I said, well, you know, 96 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.360 how do we help How can I help you? He's like to get 97 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:01.040 needles. I think I have one. I said, no, don't, 98 00:07:01.040 --> 00:07:02.680 don't do that. You don't know what that needle has been. Man, 99 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:05.720 I'll get some. Feel Let's go get in a call. I'll get some. 100 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:10.399 I felt bad for him, so we bought fresh needles, and then 101 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:12.000 he went, I said, I'll buy him for you, But I want 102 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.240 to see you shoot up? Why? I said, I just want to 103 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:15.279 see it. Maybe I'll play that in the movie one. I want to 104 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:18.000 see it in front of me. And I had watched him do it. 105 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:24.000 Booh scary, and he started to nod out. Oh, we're way off 106 00:07:24.040 --> 00:07:28.480 topic here, but anyhow, so lavin the marriages Ruda Valentino was in one 107 00:07:28.519 --> 00:07:31.759 of those, obviously, and the studio could not afford to have its biggest 108 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.680 stars sexuality called out. So the solution of the studio executives at the time 109 00:07:38.319 --> 00:07:43.600 was to wed Valentino to the actress Gene Acker, and the marriage was a 110 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:48.120 match made in heaven because Valentino's costume designer, Natasha Rambova was also involved in 111 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:54.000 a lesbian relationship then as well, so the couple attempted to show their fans 112 00:07:54.040 --> 00:07:58.279 that they were a straight couple by getting married right. And while the marriage 113 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:03.639 between Valentino when Natasha gained watch but attention, it ended as a big, 114 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:07.920 big failure, and then things took a really sour turn. On the wedding 115 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:13.920 night, actor obviously regretted her actions and locked she locked Valentino outside of the 116 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:20.600 hotel room and there they divorced not too long after that, but after his 117 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.040 first failed marriage, Valentino decides to give it one more shot. This time 118 00:08:24.079 --> 00:08:30.240 he married Natasha Rambova nineteen twenty three. She was a costume designer, sometime 119 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:35.279 actress, really pretty, and this was a period when Valentino's career was starting 120 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:39.159 to really take off, and by nineteen twenty four he had more eyes on 121 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.919 him because the roles he'd started to take on was seen as less masculine, 122 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:48.279 and by the time his marriage to Rumbova ended a year later, many people 123 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:54.000 were already calling Valentino the pink powder puff. We can't even say it nowadays. 124 00:08:54.039 --> 00:09:00.200 They obviously he got this name playing effeminate roles. So the marriage asked 125 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:05.000 an under two years before they split, and people who had suspicions about those 126 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:11.759 marriages being lavender were right. Another big one was Rock Hudson and Phyllis Gates, 127 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.399 another lavender marriage that fooled a huge portion of the public. Now it's 128 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:24.799 safe to say that Rock Hudson's sexuality was not a secret in Hollywood. Hudson 129 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.080 was a type of Hollywood star that always had women flocking around him. And 130 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:33.320 if you look, there's a great documentary on I think it's on HBO about 131 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:35.919 Rock Hudson's life. He lived with an actor for off, look at the 132 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:41.759 actor's name. You know, if you see the pictures that they ran in, 133 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:46.039 like Life magazine, all these big spreads or Rock Hutson, you see 134 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:50.240 a bunch of guys in a pool with the bathings to of the day was 135 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.919 tight tight, you know, little tight tight nut huggers for the guys. 136 00:09:52.720 --> 00:09:56.600 No girls. There a bunch of guys in the pool frolicking, and then 137 00:09:56.639 --> 00:10:03.200 the inside pictures show him. Was it Randolph Scott was the guy's name. 138 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:13.799 Yeah, Randolph Scott Rock and Randolph Rock and Randolph I liked that they met 139 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:18.440 at Paramount making a movie Hot Saturday. It was called, And of course 140 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:22.240 sparks flew on screening off. Now there's this scene. Really, there is 141 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:28.639 a scene, and Randolph Scott's very tall, and he dances with his fiance 142 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:35.360 Ruth, portrayed by Nancy Carroll. And there's Carry Grant, twenty eight years 143 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:39.879 old, and Carry Grant emerges from the rumble seat of his car as he 144 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:45.120 arrives at this dance, and Grant cuts in on Carol and Scott, and 145 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:48.600 the sexual tension between the two men is so hot that Nancy Carroll is all 146 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:56.080 but superfluous. It's on Netflix, Go watch Hot Saturday. But there's pictures 147 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.360 of Randolph Scott and Rock Hutson. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, 148 00:10:58.399 --> 00:11:01.919 I'm so off. Basis, Randolph Scott and Carry Grant, What an 149 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.279 asshole? Not Rock Carry Grant and Randolph Scott wore together. Jesus Christ, 150 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:11.080 I get my gaze mixed up. But Rock Hudson had a ball and they 151 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:13.279 were you know, he had a lover who lived with him. But in 152 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.279 the beginning when when they were first was his Hollywood career was jumping to a 153 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:20.000 big, big start. He lived with a guy, and the magazines would 154 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:22.720 say, oh, they want to save on a rent. These two, 155 00:11:22.879 --> 00:11:26.399 these two bachelors are saving on a rent through it the smart thing, you 156 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:30.960 know. It was like whatever they could do to write good stories about big 157 00:11:30.960 --> 00:11:35.399 time Hollywood stars was I mean, publicists got paid good money back then to 158 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:39.519 make sure these guys stayed in the closet with the door shut and locked firmly 159 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:43.879 behind them. And as a kid growing up, I mean not a kid, 160 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:48.080 but like twelve, thirteen, fourteen, he's not looking at these pictures 161 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:52.720 going no, this ain't right. These guys just aren't there to save money. 162 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.879 These guys having a ball, These guys are in love. There's pictures 163 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.679 of them in the steam room, a bunch of guys. I look, 164 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.960 look, I don't whatever makes them happy, it's fine. I feel bad 165 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.960 they have to hide this. I really feel bad that they have to make 166 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:11.720 believe this straight in order to save their career. Now you've got I mean, 167 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.080 look at what we're on now, Look at what Hollywood allows. Now 168 00:12:16.120 --> 00:12:20.279 I shouldn't even say allows, but the fact that Hollywood has, you know, 169 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:26.519 full gay on display constantly every TV show, every commercial, every cartoon. 170 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.919 It's okay to be gay on TV and movies. It's fine. I 171 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:35.600 had no problem with it. Now we introduce trends and Polly and all these 172 00:12:35.600 --> 00:12:41.480 other crazy situations and guys like Rock Hudson and Valentine and all these big time 173 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:45.879 starts have to hide this. And you wonder how much damage that caused them 174 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:48.720 up in their head that they couldn't really live the lives they wanted to live. 175 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:54.240 And yet nowadays you've got schmucks writing cartoons, putting gay characters in SpongeBob. 176 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:58.320 It just they're everywhere. I'm not saying I'm mad at that, but 177 00:12:58.360 --> 00:13:01.200 I just it's for the old time guys who have to just hide everything, 178 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:09.879 you know. But eventually, you know, people found out, or at 179 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.279 least they had a good hunch about it. And Rock Hutson's problems began when 180 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:18.720 a group of reporters from Confidential magazine they threatened him. They threatened to publish 181 00:13:18.759 --> 00:13:26.559 a piece exposing his hidden set escapades so to salvage his career. Rock Hutson's 182 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:33.320 agent quickly said, you don't, I'm your press secretary Mary Mary Phillis Skates, 183 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:39.919 Mary Phillis, that was just press secretary. And to think that a 184 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:46.600 studio would have more financial leverage and say in an actor's future is unbelievable. 185 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:50.879 But they did. And rather than lose money at the box office or have 186 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:54.679 the whole country find that he's gay, they ordered him to marry his secretary. 187 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:01.279 So Rocket and Phillis were rocking around. They even included moral clauses that 188 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.480 prevented these actors and actresses from being involved in any scandals that would alienate the 189 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:11.600 public. Now, Phyllis Gates was always saying, the marriage is real, 190 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:16.879 The marriage is real, thought Lavender, Okay, a lot of public members 191 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:22.639 had a different belief. Hutton also never publicly admitted to being gay. He 192 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:26.919 didn't have to, unfortunately, because when he started on Dynasty Back of the 193 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:33.200 Day, looking very gaunt and sick, many people picked up on the fact 194 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:37.159 that, oh god, he looks he's got that HIV AIDS look. And 195 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:43.360 you know then that it became the biggest story in the world for a time. 196 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:50.440 And it was sad that kissing scene when he has to kiss Lynda Evans 197 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:54.639 on the lips and Lynne Evans had no idea. People on the set had 198 00:14:54.679 --> 00:15:00.240 no idea Rock knew, and he was afraid, he didn't I know of 199 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:01.919 just kissing her would spread to the disease. So he kept his mouth shut. 200 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.240 And Linda Evans later said, he was so you know, so sincere 201 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:13.039 and safe, and he kept his mouth closed. That's not the way Rock 202 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:16.200 Hudson kisses, but he did it to make sure she didn't get sick. 203 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:20.480 Obviously she didn't. We know much more than we knew back in the eighties, 204 00:15:20.519 --> 00:15:26.720 but very very sad. But because of the nature of laved and marriages, 205 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:31.279 many secrets were kept and it was difficult for anyone to have any concrete 206 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:37.919 details except they were connecting the dots. Again, it's a pity when guys 207 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.440 like Rock Hudson had to exist during a period where their sexuality was socially unacceptable, 208 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:50.799 and you have so many of these gays in Hollywood just having a ball. 209 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.240 But his story would have been very different today, His career would have 210 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:56.759 been very, very different today if he could, if he was able to 211 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:00.879 come out, literally come out and say he's gay. And again, I'll 212 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:07.639 mention Carry Grant again. The reevaluation of Carrie Grant's Labada. Marriages actually occurred 213 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:12.440 in an event and it was out of his control. But just the mirror 214 00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:18.639 existence of the story calls into question carry grants sexuality and the fact that he 215 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:25.039 would publicly kind of say he was into polygamy. Grant was implicated in the 216 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:29.000 memoir of Scottie Bower's Full Service. He wrote a book called Full Service, 217 00:16:29.399 --> 00:16:33.759 My Adventures in Hollywood and the Secret Sex Lives of the Stars. I did 218 00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:36.159 a whole show on him on Patreon about two and a half years ago. 219 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:40.519 I want to say, it's a great memoir. It's really juicy. And 220 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:44.600 the guy used to work at a gasoline station and all the stars were gonna 221 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.559 get guessed there, and that's how he began to link people up. He 222 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:49.919 was a good reader of people's sexual energy, and he could tell a gay 223 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:55.600 man from a straight man. And he hooked up girl lesbians together, gazed 224 00:16:55.639 --> 00:17:00.240 together, and he had a lot of fun too. But this memoir read 225 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:06.440 it, it has a lot of explicit details about straight and gay It's really 226 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:11.640 interesting and in the book he indicates that he either arranged or took part in 227 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:17.039 these sex capades. In one of its pages, the memoir describes a hidden 228 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.720 sexual relationship between Carry Grant and Randall Scott. So I just got ahead of 229 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:27.480 myself, that's all. But that discovery began a spiral of issues for Carrie 230 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:33.960 Grant's family. Back in twenty twelve, Carrie Grant's daughter, Jennifer Grant, 231 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:38.680 she refuted the statement in Bower's memoir. She says that my father was very 232 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:45.200 straight. There've also been questions about the authenticity of Bower's stories. Some say 233 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.720 he made a lot of shit up. I don't know. I don't know. 234 00:17:48.839 --> 00:17:52.000 He writes about a lot of people who are dead who can't speak up 235 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.119 for themselves. My father and mother always told me Carry Grant was gay, 236 00:17:55.599 --> 00:17:59.160 and so father bat in a thousand and By the way, my father told 237 00:17:59.160 --> 00:18:03.400 me that, and Griffith and Donnachris to go around town and having sex parties. 238 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.640 I forgot about that and I looked it up. He's right. I'll 239 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.400 do that tomorrow on Patreon. Andy Griffith at Don Nuts banging around Hollywood. 240 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:18.440 Yep, Heartbreakers, dream Makers. You may not have ever heard of William 241 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:25.000 Haynes and Jimmy Shields, but this story is not like the others. William 242 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:27.400 Haynes was one of those gay actors that decided to live with the risk of 243 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:33.519 the public knowing what his preference was. And Haines was a popular actor in 244 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:37.279 the thirties and he just refused to hide his sexuality. He even had a 245 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:41.440 very public relationship with his partner. So between the twenties and the thirties, 246 00:18:41.680 --> 00:18:47.559 Haynes had an agreement with MGM, but he was also living with some former 247 00:18:47.720 --> 00:18:52.640 sailor Jimmy Shields, and despite the public having acknowledged that Haynes and Shields were 248 00:18:52.720 --> 00:19:00.519 romantically involved, it didn't affect his popularity until much later. And at that 249 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:07.359 point MGM issued Haynes and until made him either you perform in a straight marriage 250 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:11.960 or you forfeit the contract you have with us at MGM, and those frigs 251 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.559 made him choose between his career and his partner. And the interesting thing is 252 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:22.039 that Haynes stuck by his gay partner and later on he eventually left Hollywood and 253 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.799 began interior design business. And today he's renowned as one of the first gay 254 00:19:26.880 --> 00:19:30.240 stars to come out of the come out of the closet, and come out 255 00:19:30.240 --> 00:19:33.359 to the public. And I bet you never heard of him. The next 256 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:37.079 pair are pretty well known by the way I'm doing Old Hollywood for a bit 257 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.039 about three days last week on Patron, I did a bunch of stories on 258 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:45.240 old Hollywood that people tended to really like. And I like going back into 259 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:48.440 that pool, dipping my toe back in that in that water. It's fun. 260 00:19:49.680 --> 00:19:56.240 Barbara Stanwick and Robert Taylor big stars. Stanwick and Taylor big time actors 261 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:59.960 during their time, but their private life was a big problem for major studios. 262 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:06.319 They had this inability to sleep with the opposite accepts and that was unacceptable 263 00:20:06.720 --> 00:20:10.880 to the public. At the time, Barbara Stanwick was under contract with Warner 264 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:15.960 Brothers and Columbia. She also worked for MGM as well, and when it 265 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:19.599 became clear that the gay escapades of Stanwick and Taylor could no longer be contained, 266 00:20:21.319 --> 00:20:26.279 MGM called both stars for a meeting. You get your crazy queer assis 267 00:20:26.359 --> 00:20:27.559 in his office tomorrow at ten am. Now they didn't say that, but 268 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:33.440 they might have. But conclusion to the meeting basically was, you're gonna get 269 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.559 married. That's what we're gonna do. You're gonna get married. It was 270 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:40.799 the last ditch effort to save the careers and reputations of both of them. 271 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.920 So Stanwick and Taylor got married in May of nineteen thirty nine, and after 272 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:48.839 the wedding ceremony, Taylor refused to kiss Stanwick and went home to spend the 273 00:20:48.920 --> 00:20:55.200 night at his mother's place. Oh Jesus Christ, the next one I love? 274 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.319 You know, I find it weird because a lot of gay men are 275 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:03.279 still attracted to beautiful women, you know, like gay men are different that 276 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.400 way. I don't know, Like like one time, an next girl friend 277 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.920 of mine who was always around photographers and stylists who were gay, and they 278 00:21:11.920 --> 00:21:15.640 would like poll you know, pull her, pull her on their laps and 279 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.119 just having fun back in the nineties and so and all these gay men would 280 00:21:19.160 --> 00:21:25.119 have would be hard. It's something strange, right, I wouldn't work like 281 00:21:25.119 --> 00:21:29.079 that was me, But for the gay men it did. They love beauty. 282 00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:34.119 I don't know the next one I love. My father never liked the 283 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.359 actor Danny Kay, and I asked why one day and he told me. 284 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:40.880 He asked, like he loves women, but he doesn't aj he likes men. 285 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:45.720 I think it was also because, if I remember correctly, somehow Danny 286 00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:48.319 Kay got out of serving in World War Two, and that really pissed off 287 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.759 my father. He said, it's fine. We did fine without him. 288 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:56.640 Fuck him, but Danny kay and Sylvia fine. Many people may remember Danny 289 00:21:56.720 --> 00:22:02.119 kay was a very big entertainment, very popular entertainer. Does nothing for me, 290 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:06.519 but people loved him. He was never macho, manly of the strong 291 00:22:06.559 --> 00:22:11.039 type, and as a result of his lack of masculinity, Danny Kaye was 292 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:15.680 often chosen to act in weak, effeminate roles. He had more talent than 293 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:25.279 that, but he was banging guys since his vaudeville days, and despite reports 294 00:22:25.279 --> 00:22:27.920 of his sexuality, he still married someone of the opposite sex. He got 295 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:33.559 married to Sylvia Fune, who was a piano player. They spent a reasonable 296 00:22:33.559 --> 00:22:37.880 amount of time together and the union produced a baby girl named Dina. But 297 00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:42.119 the public was The public was more or less in on Danny Kay's act, 298 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.119 and many people believed that their marriage was nothing more than a force. And 299 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:48.839 they were right, it was a force. But still he went the extra 300 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:52.720 mile and had a kid. The other guy couldn't even have one night in 301 00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:59.759 bed after the wedding. Unbelievable. This is gay, then his gay? 302 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.160 This one. I love Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy. I've always I didn't 303 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.400 want to believe Spencer Tracy was gay, not because there's anything wrong with that, 304 00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:12.279 It just he looked so butch and you know, tough. Spencer Tracy 305 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:15.960 was the man go look at Twelve Angry Men to mention one of his great 306 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:23.680 movies. But the union between Kate and Spencer Tracy one of the It's one 307 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:29.119 of the instances when the lavender marriage could be hidden from the public. So 308 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:33.799 in this memoir, Scottie Barrow's memoir, Hepburn and Tracy never had a typical 309 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:40.839 marriage. They never officially married, but they had an admirable bond that lasted 310 00:23:40.880 --> 00:23:45.720 up to four decades. And this type bond was enough to dispel any negative 311 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:51.920 rumors that had built up about their sexuality. You know, both stars could 312 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:56.400 be seen in the company of each other, and they had sexual preferences that 313 00:23:56.440 --> 00:24:00.240 couldn't be expressed openly. I grew up always thinking they were in love. 314 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:03.240 I mean, they loved each other, but they just weren't. Then they 315 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:06.720 weren't having sex. Maybe they did a couple of times, but that's not 316 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.680 what they wanted. He wanted men, she wanted girls. I mean, 317 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.880 look, she's wearing she's wearing pants playing golf. I know it's not a 318 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.839 big tale, but for me, it's a tell. And there were reliable 319 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:23.880 reports that Hepburn had a woman on his side, and Spencer would also liked 320 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.960 it. Once in a while, I get a blowjob with men when he 321 00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:30.559 was drunk. What what do you mean when I was no, I was 322 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:40.799 drunk, you didn't blow me? I love that excuse. Bower's book really 323 00:24:40.880 --> 00:24:48.799 paints Katherine Hepburn as a lesbian and Spencer Tracy is bisentraal. The memoir also 324 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:55.720 says that he fixed Katherine Hepburn up with more than one hundred and fifty different 325 00:24:55.720 --> 00:25:00.440 women in about forty years. He also had an affair with himself. The 326 00:25:00.519 --> 00:25:06.319 next one is a shocker to me, shocker to many people because it includes 327 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:11.559 the stud Tyrone Power, and he was absolutely labator. But what was truly 328 00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:17.480 unique about Tyrone Power was the nature of his lavender marriage. This guy was 329 00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:22.000 considered to be bisexual or gay by many tabloids, and there were numerous errors 330 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:26.119 about his affairs with other top Hollywood actors. But Power was not forced into 331 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.480 a marriage of convenience to save his reputation. Instead, he chose to marry 332 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:36.319 Annabella, a French actress, just named Annabella. He chose to marry it 333 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:41.480 out of his free will, and everything seemed to be going fine until, 334 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:47.240 you know, until Tyrone couldn't keep it in his pants. And then there 335 00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:51.160 are these reports of unending affairs with several men and women. He was just 336 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:56.640 going, just going crazy out there, and the marriage to Annabella finally ended 337 00:25:56.759 --> 00:26:02.519 after one of his extra mattal affairs with Judy Garland of all people, resulted 338 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.759 in an unwanted pregnancy. Annabella found out and she flew the coop. I 339 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.880 don't want to even think about what abortions were light back in those days. 340 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:17.200 I can only imagine. I've heard, I've heard what they did at times, 341 00:26:17.680 --> 00:26:22.000 and it's horrifying to think that code hangers. I just can't even imagine. 342 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.240 Oh my god, didn't there are Hollywood stuff. Didn't. Didn't Woopy 343 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.599 Goldberg used a hanger? I think she did. I think when Whoopy was 344 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:33.920 really down and out, you know, like welfare kind of shit. I 345 00:26:33.960 --> 00:26:37.440 think I think I remember her being pregnant and her saying in a book or 346 00:26:37.480 --> 00:26:41.440 something that she used the wire hanger to abort the child. Oh god, 347 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:47.240 damn, I mean, that's got to change your whole perspective on life. 348 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.759 An Yeah, Drudy Garland is one of the many men when many women to 349 00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:57.240 get married to a gay Hollywood actor Vincent Minnelli. Vincent Minnelli was a gay 350 00:26:57.279 --> 00:27:03.119 man long before are hitting it big in Hollywood, but after he rose to 351 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:07.680 the limelight, his life gained more scrutiny from reporters and members of the public, 352 00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:14.200 and these restraints on morality ensued. I'm sure it actually that that Minnelli's 353 00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:18.119 career was going to struggle. That I get a ship together, can't be 354 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.680 seen romping around with men. And years later it was clear that Judy Garland 355 00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:29.079 was completely aware of who her husband was, and she would later advise her 356 00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:34.440 daughter to marry gay men because they were the best husbands. She believed that 357 00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:40.920 they shared a connection like never before. Judy Garland was never shy of being 358 00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:45.400 around a gay man and would later get into extra mountal affairs like I told 359 00:27:45.400 --> 00:27:48.319 you earlier with Tyrone power. But from Judy Garland we go to her daughter, 360 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:55.359 who had not one, but two lavender marriages, Liza Minnelli, Liza 361 00:27:55.440 --> 00:28:00.920 Nelly and Peter Allen. Great story wasn't exactly a Hollywood marriage, but it 362 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.240 falls into the same category as other high profile unions that were born at a 363 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:11.440 convenience. Look, she just followed in mom's footsteps when she married gay Australian 364 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:18.119 singer and dancer Peter Allen, and throughout the marriage many people believed that Allen 365 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.000 was engaged in an affair with Mark Herron all he was they were together. 366 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:29.680 I used to see Mark at at Peter Allen shows me and my family, 367 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:34.160 As I told my patron, audience became very friendly with Peter Allen. My 368 00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:38.279 sister Lorraine loved, my father loved his music. He turned my sister Lorraine 369 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:41.400 onto it, she turned me onto it. And back in the eighties, 370 00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:47.039 every time Peter Allen played at Carnegie Whole Radio, City Music Fair, you 371 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.240 name it, Westberry Music, we went. We saw Peter Allen like five 372 00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:53.359 or six times. And since he's Australian, my sister would always get a 373 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:59.839 little kangaroo, a stuffed cap claulabear or a kangaroo something that was from Australia. 374 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.319 And as customary when Peter Allen performs, the last song he performs is 375 00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:07.519 blaming you know Rio, not blame it. I just saw blaming on Rio 376 00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:11.200 on TV. No No that's an old movie with Joe Bolognan, Michael Caine. 377 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.880 Really fun movie. Dem Me more Young, dem Me more No. 378 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.319 The Big the Big Sendolf saw was called Rio. When my baby smiles to 379 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.960 me, I'd go to Rio. P Jennarrow, it's a great song. 380 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.359 In the house comes down, all the women run up and throw flowers and 381 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:30.759 koala bears and whatever. And he he took the stuff Adamo from my sister 382 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.640 Larrain one night and he put it on the piano while he sang, and 383 00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.400 she was she couldn't believe we were was screaming, we were nuts. And 384 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.519 we'd always go backstage and hang out with him. And I saw Mark here 385 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.319 and there a number of times that was his man. But it wasn't until 386 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:48.920 the marriage was dissolved between Eliza and Peter Allen that that he explained his truth 387 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.200 as a gay actor. I mean, Minelli also married another gay man, 388 00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:57.720 David Guest. I mean, you know, I have heard people say Jewish 389 00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:02.079 men make the best husbands, but I've never heard someone said gay men make 390 00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:04.599 the best husbands. I don't know. Look, I could see this sort 391 00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:10.279 of thing happening once, I really, you know, I really can't, 392 00:30:10.319 --> 00:30:15.279 but I guess if my career and my livelihood were on the line, maybe 393 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:18.920 I'd have to do the same thing. But to do it twice, I 394 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:25.000 don't know. Not too many years ago, when me and my screen running 395 00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:30.359 part of Neil Gumpel were just not able to sell a script. We weren't 396 00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:33.319 getting a pitch meeting, we weren't selling the script in the room. It's 397 00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:37.480 really frustrating. It was during that era of people are selling scripts during the 398 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:41.319 pitch meetings and getting three four hundred thousand dollars at least on the spot. 399 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:45.799 So we were really hungry for that kind of deal, and at this point 400 00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.079 were so depressed and pissed off. We said, you know what, why 401 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.680 don't we get married, like let's we were both married to women, of 402 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.160 course, but we said, let's just get married. Let's go, let's 403 00:30:55.160 --> 00:31:00.039 go to Beverly Hills Courthouse and get married. We'll hold hands walked down Santa 404 00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.519 Monica Boulevard. While hanging around Boystown. People will spot us. They'll say, 405 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:08.319 I never know A j was gay holding hands with his boyfriend. Big 406 00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.839 scandal. But apparently Neil's wife got jealous. So we never did it. 407 00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.440 My life was old for it, so don't don't do it. Do it, 408 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:19.519 get some work, get some money in the house. That would have 409 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:23.519 been great, a lot of fun back then. But no, we couldn't 410 00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:27.680 hold hands on Santa Monica Boulevard. But I guess with these people, with 411 00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:32.440 the big money they had, the big careers they were building, you know, 412 00:31:32.640 --> 00:31:34.359 I guess you have to do what you have to do. But it 413 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:38.400 just seems weird to me. But I wanted to end this on Lisa and 414 00:31:38.440 --> 00:31:44.079 Peter Allen because this whole laven and marriage thing began with the sad news the 415 00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:48.079 other day that Debra Lye Furness and Hugh Jackman were ending their marriage of convenience. 416 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.440 Now, neither of them have ever admitted to Jackman being gay, but 417 00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:56.200 I feel otherwise. I can't say no for sure. I really have a 418 00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.880 strong feeling otherwise, and so that many people. And I think this ties 419 00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:07.160 everything into a nice little bow because the moment that cemented you Jackman being gay 420 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:10.480 in my mind was watching him play Peter Allen and the great Greatest Showman. 421 00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:16.319 See how nice and tight we tied that bow today. So listen, my 422 00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:22.119 free friends, my freebirds. He missed a lot this past month. He 423 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.839 missed a huge health update for me. You missed the inside stories why Ashton 424 00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:32.200 Kutran Mila Kunis immediately regretted sending out their letter of support for their gingerhead rapist 425 00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.519 friend Danny Matterson. You missed what secret private clubs Jimmy Fallon likes to go 426 00:32:37.599 --> 00:32:43.200 to and get good and loaded while he was apologizing for creating a toxic work 427 00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:47.160 environment. You missed Town nine to eleven changed my life and what I did 428 00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:52.480 in the immediate aftermath of that horrifying day. You missed some people talking that 429 00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:57.319 Jamie Fox may have been cloned. I don't believe that at all, but 430 00:32:57.759 --> 00:33:02.799 I do question why didn't we see the warrior tattoo across the back of his 431 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.680 head when he was in a McDonald's recently talking to a fan who was filming 432 00:33:07.720 --> 00:33:14.200 the conversation. Interesting. You miss Howard Stern's private side while I was a 433 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.200 regular on his show, and my family's surprising fondness and friendship with the late 434 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.599 Great Peter Ellen. And I went some old school, Like I said, 435 00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:28.000 I went old school. On the mysterious death and the scandalous lives of hard 436 00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:32.799 Luck actresses Susan Cabott and Lynn Baggett, as well as the scary times of 437 00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:38.440 actress Mayo Method Male Method. It's a weird name. It's mthot, but 438 00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:46.079 it's pronounced method and the crazy passion that she and Humphrey Bogart shared. Old 439 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:53.039 crazy actresses, some of them very beautiful, very talented, all falling victims 440 00:33:53.079 --> 00:34:00.240 to drugs and alcohol and PTSD and rape and murder. You got a check 441 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:04.480 it out. I'll be doing some more on Patreon. It reminds me of 442 00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.960 my day shooting the Misters and Scandal series for e How did in the seventy 443 00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:13.599 two episodes five years? A lot of memories and sometimes you guys put up 444 00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:16.679 a face on the podcast of Tess Page and it brings back a lot of 445 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.119 memories of that shoot, what it was like, and it gets me back 446 00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.199 into that mode. So don't be Bashville. Come on over. This last 447 00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:29.119 month I got letters from well, I got direct messengers, emails, letters, 448 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.800 at least fifteen new patrons of all said I'm so glad I came to 449 00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:37.719 Patron. You're so worth it, So go to patron dot com, slash 450 00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:42.000 fame as a bitch and spring for the five bucks. All right, I'll 451 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.800 talk to us later in a week. I'm a J. Benzon. That 452 00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.880 was your free show for Stember eighteenth, twenty twenty three. Talk to us 453 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:58.840 later, Thank you for listening. Fame as a Bitch is an AJ Benza 454 00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:04.360 Workhouse Connect product featuring the endless wisdom, insightful commentary, and sometimes fucked up 455 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:07.519 perspective of a J. Benza. Executive producer Mike Agavino