Yeah, ripped up bad news. Who you don't have, come running just
as fast as we can. Shooter's gonna help coming. Man, this is
the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome
to the show. And what I'm calling the great, the great snow exaggeration
in history. Now, we got a lot of snow, but this was
not a blizzard. Folks. If you've lived here in Colorado, you will
know this is not a blizzard. There were no white outs. There was
gentle snow falling constantly, so we had deep, wet snow, but we
didn't have freezing or sub freezing temperatures. We didn't have driving winds and whiteouts
and drifts that were eighteen feet tall. Yeah, we had a storm,
big fricking deal. The roads were totally passable in most places the entire time.
By the way, kudos go out to the snow removing people. I'm
not saying people didn't have hardship. There were a lot of people without power
and all this, but this was not, as it was built by one
of the stations, the snow storm of the century. I'm sorry, I
I I remember a snowstorm one time. You could not see three feet three
feet in front of your car. In fact, you couldn't see anything was
white out. Give us a call three oh three, seven one three talks
seven one three eight two five five. What is that? That is our
number while we're here twenty four to seven. Even now, you can call
three oh three Martino, three oh three six two seventy four six six.
I want to hear about your snow stories. We got a lot of mamby
pambies right now stuck at home still. I don't know what you're stuck for.
Just your okay, welcome, it's just an excuse to stay home.
No, there are some people where they can't get out of their neighborhoods even
though the roads are clear. That's what's weird. They can't get out of
their neighborhoods. You know. I remember living in Franktown. I'd be like
isolated and the whole world was buzzing around me. That's what Mark and Seuss
are going through right now. They're isolated and can't get out. Here's the
deal. It wasn't a blizzard. That's my only contention. It wasn't the
snowstorm of the century. I'm sorry. It was a spring snowstorm, and
it's going to be clear. If it's not clear, it's clearing now and
it's going to be totally clear later and this weekend it'll look like Florida.
And maybe I'm just jaded from all of this. I'm so tired of hearing
about the snowstorm of the century. Anyway, let me get I digress.
Today's Car Day. Welcome to the show, but we'll talk about anything you
want. Kevin Calkins shared an autotech Jeff Jeff Vick Kimmeer transmission. And there's
a question on it. Ask because there was a survey. There's a survey
being taken. First, there was a survey on what cars look stupid?
So I'd like to know that what are the dumbest looking cars you can find?
Then the next one, what cars are driven by idiots? What cars
are mostly driven by idiots? I'd like your votes, I'd like your information.
What do you think? Bill wants to talk? Bill? What's going
on with you? Bill? Hey, Hey, I'm going to answer your
question. There. The juke is the first one? Oh yeah, yeah,
yeah? You know what isn't the juke the one that's non symmetrical?
Is that the one that's not it looks different on the left than on the
right. That was my first choice as well. Oh that's the juke now
is kind of no the one you're thinking it was like? It not a
scion. I can't think of the name of it. Oh, oh yeah,
there's one that's non some metrical. We all want symmetry in life.
But anyway, go ahead, sir. What's happening with tell me what's going
on with you? Well, I just I'm helping my niece and nephew out
here there. They're doing they want to do their showers, and they've got
the frame and they want to go frameless, and I just kind of wondered,
you know, my brother and I will stript what do you mean by
what do you mean by frameless? Do you mean the the frameless around the
glass? Exactly? Like, I don't know how you Yeah, yeah,
they want self they want self supporting glass. They want self supporting glass,
right, exactly, right, Yes, I don't know that's got one or
two guys, have any installers. I don't need a it's not a back
room makeover. Just went on redo. They existing there, but in front
of self supporting, I guess what you want to say, uh, Southeast,
Uh, like Centennial and the other ones in Parker, you might mark
mark your your level mark hold on your level's really low. I didn't mean
to ignore you. Your levels really low? All right? And then can
you pump him up a little bro things? And then Voalero Construction is someone
that might do that? What do you think mark? Yeah, Valero for
sure? Is that level better? Yeah, it's way better. Let me
give that number for Valero on referral liss dot com seven to zero eight eight
two twenty one thirty nine twenty one thirty nine. Okay. And then maybe
handyman Hub is the other one. Handyman Hub another good suggestion, okay,
and any other other two. The other question was a Prius or a Dodge?
A Prius or you mean driven by idiots? Right? The Prius and
a Dodge? Yeah? Now why do you say the Prius is driven by
idiots? Maybe man Bey Pambies, but I don't know about it. By
the way, Handyman Hub is three zero three four to two seven twenty nine
fifty five. Okay, So tell me about uh, you mean like Dodge,
Hellcat chargers all that stuff, right? Yeah, you know what you
could have something there. You could have something there. Yeah, I was
going to say that to you guys alone a little bit. But I mean
I see them driving a lot of them and going I could get twice in
my ways those guys are doing. Just just let me get your vote on
this bill. Let me get your vote on this. Was this a blizzard
or just a spring storm? Oh? Come on, Tom, I've lived
here. My dad's in the military, so I've lived here since I've been
here in the fifties. I lived steady since nineteen sixty six. And come
on, give me a break, right, that's what I thought. You
said, This is nothing, That's what I thought. So Larry, what's
going on with you? You got to comment on this? Yeah? Thank
you? Well has heard a word on any weather reports about the effect of
this stream down this storm downstream With all this snow going to melt in the
next three or four days, the people in Fort Morgan and Sterling are in
for a flood, and I haven't heard anybody mention it. You know,
this is a pretty wet snow, and I think you're right. But we
all know the reason for the spring storm, right, do you know the
reason? Larry? Well, it's typical. That's all I know. No,
it's not. It's climate change. It's climate change. My got get
off my show, Get off my show. It's climate change. Mike,
what's going on with you? Sir? Hi? Mike, what's one of
the ugliest cars? Juke? I call it the joke the juke. Okay,
I got to look that up because I'm trying to recall the juke.
Nissan Juke is but that's the one. I don't know. That juke doesn't
to me. I like kind of like the weird but okay, the soul
is the soul, the one that's nonsymmetrical in the back. Anyway. So,
Mike, what do you think if you had to pick out a car
and they're acting like idiots? What kind of car would it be? Mm?
Folkswaggens really hmmm? I m now I would think I'm going to rethink
the prius. I've seen nothing but kind people with priuses. I just think
a Larry David every time. I love it. But they're usually doing anywhere
from five to fifteen miles an hour under the speed limit. Oh and they're
always in the left lane holding people up. Now I want to go for
uh uh, let's see. I think I've seen jerks and audi's I have.
Now I'm not saying all people who drive outis are jerks? Are we
on YouTube yet? Mark? If somebody's asking her, well, I'm glad
you're asking. We are up on YouTube. But I need switch blade four
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We're here to help you solve problems. Answer question to take complaints.
All right, what is the most annoying car? I don't know if I
asked that, I asked the ugliest car, or I asked the one that's
driven by jerks. Okay, Randy, it doesn't matter. You can weigh
in on anything you want. Go ahead, sir. The most annoying car
in a particular municipality UH driven by boulder I suparous and boulders that have coexists
stickers on the back of the super Us and boulders with the bumper sticker that
says coexist. You know what's really funny is here's what's really funny. And
I've said this before, this diversity crap and coexists. It's not crap.
I actually loved true diversity. I truly do and truly coexisting. But they
don't really mean coexisting. What they mean is what they really mean is we
want to be who we are, but we don't want you to be who
you are. We want to be out there and do anything we want.
But if you're regular, or that's even a bad word, if your mainstream,
you know, they really don't want diversity. That's what's really strange.
True diversity, honest to god, true diversity is wonderful if you have it.
But I agree with you and I often wonder about the dichotomies in social
media and media and internet. Right now, you know this diversity, equity
and inclusion. If it was true, it would be wonderful, but that's
not truly what it is. Just like the Center against Digital Hate, it's
the most hateful organization I've ever seen in my life. It should be the
Center against Free Expression. But here's what's really We have a bipartisan committee trying
to ban TikTok. I don't even know how that looks like when they do
it. But I'm against banning any social platform, and I'm against banning any
speech whatsoever. Sorry, I'm against it. I don't care if it's hate
speech. Let them hate all they want. I don't have to read it.
It has nothing to do with the speech. So I know they say
it has to do with spying. That's just an excuse. It's no,
no, it's not. It's owned by the Chinese government. Tom they know
everything. They told those kids on TikTok last week to enter their zip code
or else you couldn't get on TikTok. And when they did, their congressman's
phone number called up, and these kids were calling the congressmen all around the
country. Imagine if there was a vote in the House or something that had
to do with going to war with China or protecting Taiwan. Do you believe
it should be it should be banned the way it is in its current form.
I'm one hundred percent there, okay. So if it was owned by
how about jet If it's owned by anybody else, I could care less long
as it's not an adversary. I'm curious what Jeff thinks about it. Jeff,
I'm with you, Mark, I think they should be Jeff, that's
board, Jeff. Yeah, well both jeffs so Jeff and the other Jeff
seriously, like, I'm honestly neither. Yeah, I can't Believesary own.
I'm gonna be totally truthful here. I don't know enough about it, really,
I really don't know enough about TikTok and who it's owned by. I
haven't been following it. Well, we already saw what happens when our own
government tells people to take down news stories when it came to the virus and
they got rid of our president. Remember they literally Twitter got rid of Donald
Trump's account. I think Facebook did as well. So now you're talking not
just our government, but the Chinese government that kind of control over data.
Yeah, well, you know, we're gonna have to come to grips in
general, with with with speech and with everything with AI. I mean,
we have a gay one man. Hey, we have challenging times that we
really have challenging times ahead of us. Do you know how easy it would
be to imitate people and to perpetrate scams? Hello, ma'am, this is
Tom Martine, I'd like to I'd like to help you. You're the target
of a scam. I need you to go buy some gift cards. Give
me the number you can trust me. I've been on the air for forty
five years. Could you imagine that? John? Welcome to the show.
What's going on? John? Hey? Tom Thanky taking my call? Yes,
sir, I'm in the I'm in the process of doing a home renovation,
and in doing that, I had to have my electrical panel upgraded from
one hundred and fifty to two hundred amps. I use Core Electric out here.
Elbert County issued the permit. CORR told me that they had to have
an engineer come out and inspect the transformer. Never saw anybody out here,
I mean an engineer from ir Well, what's the name of your power company?
Now? Uh, it's actually Core Electric? Oh it is Core Okay,
I'm sorry, I thought you meant Core Electric as in a contractor.
So is Core Electric the utility? Yes? It is, Okay, got
it? So, Corn, So Cord needs to send someone out to look
at the transformer to make sure it can take your upgrade. Right, they
did that, We did the work. Core is telling me they're going to
charge me one hundred and fifty dollars to upgrade my panel from one hundred and
fifty to two hundred amps. That's cheap, and that's way cheap, okay,
but that doesn't but that doesn't include I mean, my electrician came out
and did the work. Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait
a minute, hold on, you already had it done physically? Yes,
yeah, I had my electrician come out. And so what what is that
charge for there? And is it a monthly charger just a one time charge.
No, they're telling me it's a one time charge so they can maintain
their transformers. So they're going to charge you an upgrade price, and what
do you get for it? Nothing? Absolutely nothing. I mean they I
haven't seen any report that the engineer was out here, that they're the inspection.
The state's going to come out and do the final inspection of the panel,
and my electrician I've already paid. So it's just basically a junk fee
of some kind. But I don't see how you get around it if it's
an approved fee. Well, when they called me, they told me as
of March first, they were charging this fee, and it just seems but
it's just going to be one time. Let me get that straight. One
time, one fifty. And that's for them coming out and inspecting the transformer.
Well, that's I don't know. That's not what they told me.
Well what did they tell you? They told me they it's a fee so
that they can maintain their transformers. But but what different Okay, it's I'm
sure it's an inspection fee. I'm sure that's but we'll call and ask him.
A deputy doc is listening, Deputy Doc, let's call, I mean,
uh or Kachina? Can you give this to doc? Is Kachina's still
on right now? I don't know, because so many people are snowed in
today for what reason we don't know, but they are. And uh so,
in any case, she snowed in, and I think she's working the
Is she still working at Freddie? I mean she's uh, I mean Jeff,
she's called him. I'm going to keep calling him Freddy then we can
different they held you get Freddy fred You know what, Mark? It came
into my mind, like a lot of things do. Like right now,
two words are coming into my mind for you, but pizza. The second
word is you. But I'm not going to say it on the air anyway.
Freddie, He's gonna be Freddie from now on because God, God spoke
to me and he's Freddie. Why don't you give this one to Father?
John? Okay, let's do that. And yeah, I'm just thinking it's
just an extra junk fie sort of thing. Well, John, John,
let's play this game. Yeah. Let's say they charge it to everyone,
and it's an approved fee through PUC. And that's what they do when they
send a guy out to look at the transformer, or allegedly send someone out,
or they say it's for maintaining. That's what they mean, by the
way, maintaining, they send someone out to check it. Let's say it
is. What do we do about it? Yeah, unfortunately, I'm just
gonna have to pay it. But I mean, I don't know. I'm
asking I'm asking everyone what do we do about you know, it's a good
question, John, I'm not dissing you for calling about it. I mean,
what do we do about it? Though? There are so many times?
Okay, let me give you another example, John, Hoas have started
what's called a transfer fee. That means, if you live in an Hoa
community and you sell your home. They charge homeowners upwards to four hundred and
ninety five dollars to transfer one owner to another. Now what does an HOA
do when they do that? They say, well, we have to maintain
our records. So what do you do? I mean, we're we're we're
inundated with these fees all over the place. So I really would like father,
And it's not father, John, I'm just joking. I would like
father, deputy doc to check on this. So let me get how we're
doing this. We got Freddy answering the phones. Then we have Kachina colorI
at home, work in the fund, work in the deputies. And then
we have Mark at home. Yeah she's there. Okay, good, thank
you Kachina. Then we have Mark at home chirping on the remote. And
then we have the two we have our two car guys in the studio.
So that's that's the run. That's the layout today. Okay, three oh
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wants to talk and we have Kevin Calkin Jeffick our car experts de and he
wants to talk about a transmission. Vernon, go ahead, Vernon, Hey,
let me let me just summarize this real quick with Jeff So transmissions Jeff
options. You rebuild the one that's in there, you exchange it for a
reman a used one you can put in, or a brand new one or
never brand new. It's very rare. You're going to get a brand new
one, remand used or rebuilt right on. Some of the newer models they
may still have new programs going on, but once silka cores start coming through
the rebuilds that come out on the shelf. With getting a new transmission,
you got to buy a new truck to go with it. Burn your question.
So I had my six L ninetye rebuild it went out. I had
it rebuilt, and now the guy won't. He won't return my calls,
he won't return my text messages. Where was it done? Mountain View Transmission
and Bertha mountain View never heard of him. I was ready to hear what's
his face, Joppy or whatever? So Mountain View and berthed, Okay,
do you live out there? I live in Platteville. Okay, well not
far? Okay, okay, so you're not. What are the problems you're
having? Okay? So he rebuilt it. He said the drum was out,
the front drum was out. He rebuilt it. Now when he gave
me a quote on it, he told me that everything would would be new
in it. You mean rebuilt? Well okay, never mind, okay,
So do you have a receipt or something on this? I do? And
what does it say on the workwater or the receipt? Okay, let me
grab that real quick. Just curious about that. I mean, I'd like
to know exactly what they talk about. Okay, yeah, like what do
they talk about on that? So on this it says updated drum, new
TCM. We need programmed over here. It's the six ninety What does all
that mean? Jeff? What does all that mean? I mean, well,
they did have a problem with the drum and crack in the back,
so they do have replacement for that. Yet does that sound like a rebuilt
transmission? It doesn't to me. Well, he's starting to go through the
list here. There a lot more. No, that's all he has.
Yeah, so that's not a rebuilt. That's not that's not a whole lot
there. I mean, there's no true definition of what an actual rebuilt has
to consist of. But you know he did have it open. You don't
ever put that drum on there, and if that drum was cracked, he
most likely had to put some fred what's going on with it now? More
issues? Right? Basically the same thing that was going on with it before,
which was which was it? It kind of slipped see but that's that
drum wouldn't have had anything to do with that. Wow, tell me how,
because that's that's where the clutches live there, you mean like a clutch
correct? Okay, Okay, I'm thinking for some reason the drum as a
as the housing. Okay, so that should have stopped that, depending if
that's where he was slipping at. Yes, well, vernon when you tall
tell them, are they ghosting you? Basically? Are they not getting back
to you? They're there, they won't even I mean, what did you
Hey, what did you pay for this? This is going to be a
real clue. What did you pay for this? Twenty dollars? Carry out?
What did you chance? Mission out? Took it over to him?
Is that does that sound like a regular A good price? Yeah, if
you didn't get THEE for sure. Okay, so who did the programming when
you were done? Mike's automotive up here in Platte, So could the problem?
We've had three? We have three? Wait, so they're the ones
that took it out. Yeah, Mike's automotive took it out. I took
it to Mountains Transmission. He supposedly fixed it. I went and picked it
up after five weeks of calling in saying I get it on, I get
that misery. So then what then you picked it up? And then Mike's
put it back in right right? And then Mike's did the U programming right?
So whose fault is it? The installation or the rebu? I'll getting
more into it. That's impossible to tell. I'd have to break that thing
down. We'd have to take a look at the programming, make sure something
didn't go to the programming. Programming could definitely be responsible or contamination, like
you said when they installed, if they and flush it out. I never
recommend this walk in, walk out, do you know, because they can
blame everybody else. Well, most shops, how you n Jeff didn't like
to do them no good? The customers control. You don't want other people
having control. I want to control the job because that way, you know,
if something goes wrong, who's to blame? Vernon, you're not gonna
like this. You need First of all, it's a car driveable. I
can drive it like to the gas station, you know, to go get
Okay, you need a third part. You need somebody to look at this.
Man, we can't do the magic. I mean, we need to
know who's is it the installation and programming or is it the rebuild? Right?
So we need someone to look at it. Okay, Now how far
away you said you're up in up North? Okay? Yeah, how far?
Probably twenty minutes fifteen minutes from him? And you're how far are you
from let's say Colefax and he's way far away? Right way way way far
away from Yeah, I'm over. That's over now. Oh wait wait wait,
hands on up in. How far away are you from Longmond? Oh
I'm like fifteen minutes. Okay, hands on auto tech. Tom Man,
he's a good guy and he's smart, unlike the guys in the studio today.
Just kidding, I've actually I've actually heard of him. Yeah, I
want, I want if you say to him, he's used to this,
Martina. I was on the Martino Show and he said you should take a
look at this, and you really do need a third party. And I'm
going to give you his number. Okay, But like Jeff said, it's
probably going to have to be torn down Jeff for most shops like Tom's set
up for that. Yeah, will you have to tear that down just to
get a night possible? Yeah, very good possibility. And quite frankly,
he's going to want to trailer it or tow it into Tom if he takes
it over there, he's not gonna want to drive it. Why he can
cause more damage. No, if you haven't earned issue and you continue to
force that thing to work, well now you are compounding the problems. I
wonder what it's gonna take. We have to ask Tom what it's going to
take. Yeah, listen, man, you're gonna have to get He's the
closest one that we know and trust. But you need to ask him what
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Martino here, three oh three seven one three talks seven on three eight two
five five. Okay, now listen, we're talking about cars driven by jerks,
and we're talking about the ugliest cars. Now, I'll I don't seem
necessarily ugly cars. Here's what I see. I see mostly boring cars.
Would you agree on that one? They're not like my car? It's boring.
It's not ugly, not ugly at all. It's boring. And I
used to have a cool car. I don't know why. I don't want
to get into it. Okay, But in any case, there's a difference
between ugly and boring in my opinion. Would you agree? And so I
think they all kind of look like this expression su v ish. They're just
boring, Doc, Deputy Doc, what's going on? You're also at home
like a big woosy like Mark and Kelly and all the others. What I
want to I want to know, Jeff, Jeff Biggas still wear shorts?
Do you have shirts on today? Well? If I took them off,
you'd be a surprise. He wears shirts every day. Somebody must have told
them he had good looking calves or something, but I think they were talking
to his literally his calves, his beef cabs. Anyway, Doc, what's
going on? Oh? I got and touch you the Core Electric about John's
issue? Yeah, now, Core Electric the utility out there at Elbert County,
and he wants to know why that one hundred and fifty dollars charge.
They said, look, man, you know that if it's approved, they
can do it. And what did they say, Doc? What did they
say? Well, we called him engineering. He said he got the engineering
told him that when we called him engineering, they had no idea what we're
talking about. That he sent it to Billings. So I told John,
he's going to the invoice after the inspection. I said, once he gets
the invoice, it'll say specifically it's an inspection fee. You got to do
that when you get a building permit, you got to do that for anything
you got. You go ahead. Well, I just told him, when
he gets the invoice, call me because the invoice will say exactly what it's
for. And if we think it's furious, we'll call up correlectionally. Well
that's good, that's a good point. Are you working on anything else.
You know, there was somebody I can't yet who was who wanted a refund
from a I think it was a contractor. I don't remember his name.
I can't. Okay, i'll find it. I'll find it anyway. He'll
go ahead, but keep going though. We got a refund minus I think
two hundred dollars for a restocking fear or something. So he was happy with
that. Oh that's wonderful. Okay, yeah, I'm trying to look at
that one here. But in any case, that is good. Though I
remember that he wanted some kind of an adjustment on that, and uh,
anyway, thank you very much, Doc. We got more coming up.
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Man, listen to this time. I have got Frank Dran, the
real estate man, digging into it because it's going to affect him and every
other realtor out there. But they settled that issue. And what I'm talking
about is a six percent commission. So these people that represent millions of realtors
across the country, the NAAR settled for over four hundred and eighteen million dollars.
Talk about what the case was about. Well, here's what the case
is about. When people list your house for sale, realtors use a thing
called MLS, and I think it's I don't even know what it stands for,
but it's multilist MLS. Yeah, and it's all over the country of
course, So they also put on there for the realtors. Remember, people
don't use MLS. Realtors use it. So they put on there what the
commission is for the people representing the buyers. So they're no longer going to
be able to do that. According to this article, which is headline on
CNN, they're saying commissions are going to fall up to fifty per market.
Are you saying that prior to this ruling? Tell me what's different after the
biggest difference is if I'm representing a seller I'm a buyer, I'm the buyer's
agent, and they're looking for a house. I go on MLS and I
see fifteen homes that meet the criteria they want. Right, those fifteen homes
also show me that I'm going to get a three percent commission, or a
one percent commission, or a half a percent. So the problem with that
is a lot of realtors and I ran into this with the realtor I use
or did use in New Orleans when we were looking out there. What they
do is they simply glanced by the ones that don't pay that three percent.
So therefore there's a lot of homes that the buyer never even really gets deceived
because their realtor could be and I'm not saying Frank or Stephanie or people we
know would do this, but when they show how much commissions there, the
ones with not a lot of commission generally don't end up getting shown a lot.
So this ruling MLS is no longer going to show case. Michelle Les
used to show what the co op would be. Probably, yeah, they
did show what it is, and basically, I mean this starts off the
six percent commission is gone. They're saying it's going to be less. They're
also saying that, and if I'm reading this correctly, they're saying that the
seller is not going to be paying the commission anymore. In other words,
it's not going to come out out of the seller's clothing, which is crazy.
Well, hold on, hold on, Mark, money is money is
money. You can say it's coming out of the moon, but yeah,
it's going to come out of the transaction. So if they say the seller's
not going to pay it, what do they actually mean by that. Well,
they're saying that, Well, I'm assuming they're saying the buyer would have
to pay it. The buyer would be building it into their new loan instead
of the seller paying it. I mean, I agree with you. You
can argue it either way. Who's paying it right now? Ultimately it doesn't
care because they can negotiate it. But generally how it works right now,
if I'm selling my house, I end up paying my realtor and I end
up paying the other person's agent a realtor. I want to know. I
want to know if Brad O'Brien has a spin on this. Do you this
just came out? I know Frank he was a little shocked when I read
him the first paragraph. He's deep digging into it. But let's at least
Kelly, I know you're listening. Email or call all Brad and give them
a heads up. Just tell them to go to CNN. It's like the
number one thing in the truck. I'm reading it and it's really it's not
clear the way they wrote it here, I mean not totally clear. No,
I agree with you, man, but you know the big things I
take away. Fifty percent twenty five to fifty percent less commissions is what they're
talking about, which is that's massive. Imagine if you're a realtor and you're
looking at, you know, making half of what you did last year.
So home sellers bought the lawsuit because they argued that the cost of the buyer's
agent commission should be paid by the buyer, not the seller. That's the
buyer's part. And usually in other words, the I called it a co
op. In other words, if there was a six percent or seven point,
but whatever the percentage was, a certain percentage went to the other buy
the other real estate oh broke. So let's say Frank listed a property and
someone who doesn't work with Frank brings a buyer, Frank would give them part
of that commission, and typically it's six percent. So typically the seller's realtor
makes three percent and then the buyer's agent makes three percent. However it worked.
They're saying that if the seller's broker comes to that deal, why should
it come out of the seller's end part of it? And I guess I
got that argument. But the biggest problem that I see with this, I
remember when Susanna and I bought our first house in Parker. It took everything
in the world to scrape together ten thousand dollars to put down on it,
which was ten percent the house was only one hundred grand. But listen to
this man, if we had to come up with another three thousand dollars in
order to pay our agent who's helping us find a house, I don't know
if we would have gotten our house that quickly, right, I understand that.
But that's the only real part that I see being being crazy is that
well not listing that on MLS. Most realtors are going to say that's huge,
because now how are they going to know how much they're going to get
paid. Let's just look at it that way. They used to list what
the co op is. Yeah, now no more. The co op is
one hundred percent at least according to this article. It's not going to be
there anymore more on n mL because they don't want real estate people leaning toward
the higher co op listings only. And I tell you what one of the
homes Suzanna and I really loved in Saint Parody. I'm telling you right now,
the only reason our realtor didn't show us at house and I found it
on Zillow or realtor dot com is because they were selling it themselves and only
offering half a percent. But I know she knew it was out there,
but she did not even show it to us. Oh yeah, because some
some for sale by owners will say in the ad, we'll pay co op,
but if you don't pay enough co op, the real estate people say,
we're not going to show that house. So now I don't even know
if it matters if they listed on MLS, because it sounds like if I'm
looking for a house, I'm going to end up paying my realtor to help
me find a house, not the seller. That's what it sounds like to
me, which is a massive change in the entire thing. I'd love some
realtors out there. Like I said, Frank's digging into it. Hopefully Bradley
O'Brien digs into it, but i'd some long term realtors. Let us know
your thoughts on that. That's a really good topic to do. Now,
Mark, I know you like to make political bets, so I'm just going
to put one out there right now, and I'm going to go public on
this one because normally you harangue me into it and I don't really agree to
it. But this is one I'm going to agree to, and I want
my YouTube morons to testify to this. I want to bet you one thousand
dollars that on the elections today Russia that Putin will win. I'm gonna bet
you a thousand? What what are you guys laughing at? Yeah? No,
kidd man, that's great. Oh damn. I decline that he's running
against three dead guys. Are they all dead? They're not yet? Uh
is running against somebody three people in prison anyway? So uh, yeah,
Putin's running for reelection and uh, I think he might be re elected now,
and I bet you Kim Jong un remains in power till he dies Okay,
that's right, You're right. You want to bet on that one anyway?
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you think you mean, like new ones are like in the past. Well,
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The Pacer was the Pinto. Basically, do you know that Stephanie had a
Pacer. My parents had a Pinto and her Pacer. Oh, she'll hate
me for some it was a Southwest model, you remember that with the wood
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me that most of the time the cars are not so much ugly as they
are boring. I would someone, hold on, I had one, come
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BMW's yeah, they're black. They're all boring. They took one design and
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have the two sign they look the same. Well, the Tucson in the
Santa Fe. I mean they've changed this year, but in generally they do
what are they the x one x three x five x x seven. Yeah,
I mean it's ridiculous. Yeah, but I'm saying everybody does that.
Honda's got So they've got the Kona, the Tucson, the Santa Fe,
and then the palisade. I mean there's four bit bigger. We have a
real estate guy on Robert, go ahead, what's your comment on this?
And or how do you interpret this ruling? So it's real tour, not
real tour, it's real tour, Okay. The the way I see it
affecting is going to affect poor people the most that can't come up with that
that commission to pay their real tour, and so the poor people are going
to be sol I see maybe banks allowing buyers to put that commission into their
but I see it affecting poor people. To interpret this ruling, because I
mean, we don't really fully get it. So to interpret this what what
do you see this ruling doing? To begin with? I don't mean it's
a fact, but what what does it actually say? I didn't read the
ruling, but I've been following the case. Okay, what in your in
your opinion, what does this ruling do? This ruling was meant from the
outside perspective, so non realter perspective. It was to lower commissions, and
so they have done that. But but in what way I'm asking you,
how is it actually going to take effect? Not the effect that we'll have
on people, but what do you mean, like, like, what does
it actually do in the transaction? It takes away that co op seller,
the seller will pay their agent, the selling agent and the buyer's agent will
commission will be unknown. That's up to the buyer and the buyer's agent,
which should be negotiated prior to going out looking at That's right, that's right.
So what about this thing about what about the multi works less than this
amount? What about the multip list? So most of them haven't adapted yet,
but they're going to get So. I belong to two different mlss,
and so one of them said, we're just going to get rid of it,
and it's up to the buyer to negotiate with their agent and have their
agent negotiate with the selling agent, saying, this completely changes the way we've
been buying and selling. Hold on, hold On, Robert, I have
a question. Normally, a listing agent, when they write up a contract,
put a commission in there, knowing they will share some of it with
a right. Okay, well, does that mean that a listing agent will
now charge less on that initial contract? They will charge whatever they want on
their side, and then they'll advise their client. Hey, to attract people,
we're going to need to incentivize them. How much do you want to
incentivize them? So I eventually see it all coming back to hey, whatever
five six, seven percent the seller is willing to offer, and then negotiate
once you get an offer with that agent individually, instead of hey, we're
offering three to four percent. Now here's what I see happening. I see
happening simply, this is what I think will happen people listing homes will simply
charge a listing and selling commission and have no co op and offer no cop
obviously, and they won't even name what the co op should be. And
then those looking for a home, they could get it for one percent to
their real estate guy, if their real estate guy or gal is willing to
work for one percent or or Tom what happens is guys like Brad O'Brien people
go out find their own home and they close with an attorney for a thousand
bucks instead of paying any commission. That could be true. And Robert,
you were talking about real tours. Not all, as I understand it,
real tour is an organization, and not all brokers and agents are real tours.
Is that true? True? So to get your license with the state
of Colorado, you get your real estate license, and then if you want
to join the trade organization that advocates for you, you joined the National Association
of Realtors, the Colorado Association Right right right, and the Denver Association of
Realtors. And that's who settled that thing. Tom Naar, the Nationalist,
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one three eight two five five. Welcome something that directly affects all of us.
By the way, you can call about the ugliest car, the car
driven mostly by idiots. They don't have to be the same. The next
thing I want you to call about is uh this new real estate ruling that
the National Association of Realtors were sued by consumers, and in general, it
says no longer will buyers accuse me sellers pay all the commission. Sellers are
only responsible to sell and pay their commission, and the buyers who bring people
will have to pay their own broker or agent. See this is the way
it works now is you hire somebody like Frank Duran and he lists your house.
Now, Frank sells mostly his own stuff. But let's just say that
someone else comes to Frank from another company and says, I have a buyer.
That commission is split in a certain way between the listing broker and the
selling broker or the buying broker, and then now it's going to be all
They're each going to do their own thing. So if you negotiate with your
buyers broker to get one percent, that's what they get one percent. If
you negotiate with them to get more, they get more. And the selling
broker negotiates what they're willing to pay to get the house sold. And the
other thing is they say that, then there's not going to be co ops
advertised anymore on multilists. So you're not going to have buying brokers picking and
choosing only the houses to show you that have higher commissions, so they're not
going to be shown. And really, if you think about it, if
it does work that way, there's nothing wrong with that. If someone buying
a house negotiates a commission on their end, and because really, Mark,
you said, we wouldn't been able to pay that extra one or two percent.
But if it comes out of your side and it lowers the other side,
it's all going to come out in the wash. It's just who I
know, it's it looks like no. What I'm reading is they're saying that
the buyer is going to end up paying something as of this second. The
buyer doesn't pay. Well, I'll argue the buyer does, and Okay,
then you're saying it's built into the price of the house exactly. But they
don't. But they don't have to come out of pocket. So how's that
going to work with an appraisal. So when the appraisal's done and the house
is a million bucks, where is the extra thirty thousand dollars going to come
from? Well, here's what I'm saying is that it's going to be priced
accordingly because the seller theoretically is going to be paying less commission, so the
house won't be marked up as much as it would have been had they had
to pay the whole commission. I'm just saying that with numbers, if all
of a sudden, I pay less to sell my house, I might charge
less to sell it. Well maybe so, But they're saying that. What
stuck out to me in the CNN article was realtors are looking at losing up
to fifty percent. Now they're saying twenty five to fifty percent less. If
I was making one hundred thousand last year and now making possibly fifty thousand,
I might rethink what I'm doing. Now here's how I think it can affect
real estate people directly. Take someone like Frank Duran, the real estateman dot
com. Frank sells most of his own listings because he's so aggressive, and
he outbound markets and he's really good at what he does. So let's just
say there's a six percent commission. Frank doesn't have to split that with somebody
coming up and buying that house. If he sells it himself, he just
has to pay his managing broker, and then he gets the rest. Everyone
pays their managing broker. But here's the point is that with Frank, if
now that commission is cut because the sellers are saying, we're only going to
pay the selling commission, we don't have to pay the co op anymore,
and they cut the co op out of that commission and Frank ends up selling
it, then he screwed. Unless now selling commissions. Maybe it would be
written this way. If I sell it directly, you pay this much,
and if I and if I sell it through someone else, you only pay
this much. I think I think you're leaving out. Though. If I
go to sell my house now, I would never give my broker six percent.
I'd be like, you're crazy, Now give you no. I know
that. I know that because now the other party is going to come with
their own commission. I agree with you, And that's where it hurts people
who have traditionally sold most of their own listings. It's going to really screw
them up. And I think that's it hurts the most prolific and the most
productive real estate people. In my opinion three three seven one, three eight,
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Uh, the best guy in the world is on the phone. Frank
demand the real estate man. Commenting on this ruling, Now, Frank,
to sum it up, what we think it says is that you no longer
have to split your commission. Maybe I mean what they're saying is you have
a listing commission, and people who hire a real estate person to find a
house, they have a selling commission, and they so the buyers pay their
own and the sellers pay their own Is that the basic of it or not
basis they're not you know, Tom, everything I'm seeing sure looks that way.
And this is what I would tell you. I think what's gonna happen,
And this is just my opinion. I think it's gonna knock a lot
of bad agents out of the business, which is not going to be a
bad thing, Tom. I think the real good agents that know their stuff,
that can really serve with great value to people, those are the ones
that are going to do well in a market like this. I think that
the people that are just kind of the flavor of the month or just kind
of in this halfway half half in, half out kind of thing, I
think you're going to see a lot of those agents get out of the business.
Why is that, Frank, So Frank, let me get this straight.
Then, when you list a home and you do a contract prior to
this ruling, when you did a contract, you put a commission in there,
knowing you may have to share that with a buying guy, right,
absolutely, and Tom, that's always been negotiable. In fact, what we
tell our sellers is, look, you know, you don't have to offer
any co op let's talk about the pros and cons both ways. Let's look
at what we typically see out on the market, and I show this to
them on the screen. I'll show them, Okay, look you your competition.
There's ten homes two point a two point five two percent nothing, And
we talked through this and discuss the best strategy to take. But I so
prior to this, you would advertise what the co op is on multilist.
Yeah, and they would know that going up front before we put the home
on the market. But that co op comes out of the commission you negotiated,
right, correct. In other words, they would invest a certain percentage
into me, and they would know upfront that I would take a certain percentage
of that and put it out to the market to create demand. And that's
what we would do, is push it out to the rest of the market,
to all the companies. Okay, but if, for example, you
charged six percent, or anyone charged six percent and they only offered a one
percent co op, then theoretically you would get to keep five percent. I
know you share with a managing broke, but I'm talking about your side would
get to keep five percent. Correct, Although I would never do it like
that. But you're right that scenario would be correct if they were doing it
like that. Sure. Now, hey, Frank, we've talked about this
because of what I told you about the realtor I was using in Louisiana.
Sometimes, when people either list the home themselves or through redfin or whatever,
there's some way of cheaply doing it. It might only show a half a
point or maybe a one percent co op to the buyer's agent. And there's
a lot of realtors that don't even look at those, right, I mean,
they skim right by them because they're not making anything that's right, Mark,
I mean, and that's you know, and that's I don't think that's
anything new. I think you know that. I mean that they've been out
there for years. And you know what I always tell people is just consider
this. Is it is it the commission an agent says, or is it
the final outcome we're looking for here? If it's the final outcome, let's
look at that. If it's a number, somebody says, well, so
what. There's plenty of people out there that offer very low commissions, flat
fees. There's others that charge more. But the issue is what is going
to be in your pocket in the end. How do you see yourself right
now if I hired you to sell my house, which when I sell it,
I'm going to do. What would you now present to me? How
would you how do you see yourself conducting business as a buyer's agent in over
the next year. Well, you know, Mark, that's a great question.
I mean, I'll tell you the first thing we do. We'd sit
down and talk about the services I'm going to render to you and show you
how this gets done. And then we would discuss and make sure it's a
fee that you feel is fair and it's we could work the deal for you
and make sure it's realistic to to make sure that we can get you out
there in the market and get you Okay. But is it true, Frank,
with this ruling that you no longer have to pay a co op the
co op is paid on the other side. Is that true? Well?
Tom, you know, keep in mind, this all just popped out.
I'm still studying it. From what I can tell, that's what it looks
like. In other words, that's a buyer agent would negotiate something with their
buyer to possibly pay the fee. And I'm still honestly all this just came
at so quick. We're just want to make sure we get all the facts.
But that's my understanding right now. We're still learning, though, Frank.
Do you think that there are people in the industry, as Mark alluded
to, that would would overlook listings that paid less co op? I think
so. I mean, my gosh, there's so many different varieties of agents
out there, some paid great attention to details, some just kind of don't.
And I think you do see that sometimes, okay. And then as
far as multilists up till now, you could go on multilist and see what
the co op is right, that is right, Yes, typically it'll show
whatever is it there today? Or when do you think it'll actually make the
market? Well, you know, I'm My understanding is this is all going
to change in July, this July of twenty four. Now there was talk
before this was going to be tied up in the course for years. No
way. I mean, this got settled pretty quick, So we're going to
see these changes. I believe in July I will be checking with my MLS
service to talk to them a bit. I don't in fact, I'm on
MLS right now. I don't see any notes or anything like that for the
l US as of yet? Do you still see the co op though?
Oh yeah, I'm looking at them all right now, and I'm seeing co
ops on listings. So nothing has just gotten suddenly change or anything of that
nature. But these are the things we're going to be investigating and checking into
and making sure we're doing things. Mark, what's the I mean, Frank,
what's the lowest co ops you see in the Tom? I was thinking
the exact same question. What's the lowest and the highest? You see?
Guys? The lowest I've seen people offer zero to be honest. Then okay,
here's what I want to ask you. Then, if someone offer zero,
why would anyone show that property as a buyer's agent. Well, that's
a great question. It'd be very hard because how does that buyer agent get
paid? So I think they'd have to have a conversation with their buyer and
say, look, if the seller is not willing to pay a cooper or
whatever, the ellustiage is not willing to split it, then how do we
work this out going forward where he gets paid? I think to go to
that exact thing, though, Tom and Frank, I think it's very unethical
if you hire a realtor and they see a zero percent and they don't even
tell you about it, I think it's up to that person to have a
real discussion with that buyer. What are we going to do about it?
Because I'm telling you that happens way more than your thinking. And the reason
I think it sucks is they weren't good at communicating to their buyer. Hey,
there's some properties that might fit you perfectly, but quite frankly, I'm
not going to get paid on so I'm not going to show them to you.
Hey, frank I'm going to ask some inside information here, and you
don't have to answer this. But in the industry, when you list a
commission in your contract and you sell your own listing, you get to keep
more right or do you ever have deals where if you sell it directly you
charge less? You know, Tom, that's a wonderful question, and that
for me has always been a point in negotiation that we have this conversation upfront
with our sellers and we say, look, some of this depends on the
amount of work you have to do, Tom, because not every deal is
the same. I mean, my gosh, some of them. It does
require more work and we tell them that in front of we have to do
X, y Z, then it's going to be this. If it's going
to be a lot easier or quicker, it's going to be that. And
so those are things we discuss upfront, so there's no surprise this later.
And I'll tell you something too, Mark, you brought up a good point
about you know, you wouldn't be surprised that agents do it. I'll tell
you this is an industry. This is the funny thing about this industry in
real estate. There's a number of people in this business that just boy,
I don't know that if they put the time in, the work in or
whatever it is. But the people that really take this business series and really
take the time and study their contracts and I mean make that something that's very
important in serving your clients, those are the ones I think are gonna do
well regardless of what the commission. Right, I gotta say, I gotta
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Hi Tom Martine here, three oh three seven to one to three talk three
oh three seven one three eight two five five. You know, I really
believe in a nutshell it's not going to have a serious effect on the real
estate industry. I think it's going to be massive. I don't think so,
because I think, like what Frank said, it's going to be the
you know, the the neighbor that you knew that got their license last year,
that kind of thing. But I don't understand how it affects anyone.
I just don't, because all it's saying is the buyers come with a broker,
they pay their own broker. I don't. I think where it's going
to affect is the total cost of buying or selling a home is going to
go down, so you're going to have to make it up in volume.
That's where I see it going How does it go down though, Because now
you're not going to sit down and your realtor's not going to tell you as
a seller that you're going to be paying six total with the co op.
They're gonna be sitting down and selling your house for two or three percent.
Oh okay, you're right, you're right. It's just gonna I think it's
just gonna change. So when that house goes down and they sell it for
so the seller is only paying let's say three percent, then the buyer is
going to have a lower price, and you're gonna have to work out a
deal. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Coming up. Also, I still
want nominations for ugly cars, but I think we're running across the same thing
that I suspected, and that is they're ugly, not they're not necessarily ugly,
they're just boring. So what's not boring? I got everybody saying the
truck I'm looking at and the one you're looking at, it's ugly, ugly.
Fus do you know what? I I like it? I like it
the I like it. I don't know what to say. I like cyber
truck, Yeah, I do. I like the way it looks. I
think it's cool and it's bulletproof, so we can go to Denver. But
is it really bulletproof? Marn't. Yeah, like Kevin said, I'm sure
it's like, you know, maybe a nine millimeter in below in any case,
So coming up, what I was gonna say is, I'd also like
to talk about the thirty two hour workweek. That is such a sham.
I mean, how anyone thinks that's going to make a difference. Because I
know business owners and here's what they'll do. They're not you know, they're
gonna they say, you got to pay the same. Well, when they
hire somebody, knowing that person will now work thirty two weeks instead of forty.
In their mind mentally, they're not gonna pay the same as they have
been paying. I don't care what you say, and think of what it's
going to do to inflation. A happy mail's going to be seventy five bucks.
You know, As I said, life is its own teacher. I've
said that a million times and I mean it. You can't screw with things
and expect no consequences. We have more coming up on the Troubleshooter show.
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We're here to help you solve your problems and help you make the best of
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One of the things I want to talk about the thirty two hour workweek,
Today's car day. Though we have Kevin Cokin with us from Sheridan Auto Tech
Jeffic Kimmeer transmission. We're talking about some ugly cars. I got some votes.
Deputy Doc says the Pougeot or the Citron. Someone else said the Pontiac
Aztec. I second that one. Yeah, that's an ugly car. What
about newer cars? What's ugly? I think this is like, this is
a dichotomy. The cyber trucks ugly by every To me, it's ugly,
but I like it. I don't know why. Looks a little like a
blown up DeLorean, right, I love the cy huh mark. You like
the way it looks. I do. It's kind of ugly. I mean,
I'm not gonna argue that, but it's also really cool. No,
that's exactly the way I feel. I'm wondering if I'm gonna be sorry if
I take one of the first generations. I like the whole idea of Like,
they're all the same color. I like that steel. Actually they might
have a white one. No, I don't think so. They're all the
same color that. I don't think it'd be hard at all to get that
painted oh Man salad steel like that? I don't know. Oh, hold
on, is it actually steel. When you say steel, is it steel?
It's it's bulletproof. It's gotta be steel. Well, I saw this
picture of people shooting it up. So what kind of steel is it?
I mean what? Truly? It must be a heavy son of a gun.
I don't know much about it. I really don't. And when are
they actually going to be out? Wait? Here's what it says. It's
a corrosion resistant three millimeter or point one one eight inches sheet stainless steel.
So it's a three millimeter thick. So it it is like a DeLorean stainless
steel. Yep. And have you seen the inside at all? I haven't
seen anything. I saw pictures, yes, and really beautiful. Well yeah,
they're not like like you can of the cars. They're more of a
rendering of the inside directly. And I think it's five hundred I want to
say it's five hundred miles on the long version. I wonder how they'll do
in snow and stuff that's all going to be in those tires. They're heavy
enough, I can't imagine than a typical truck. So you're going to cut
that snow a lot easier? Yeah, definitely driver to do with So a
thirty two hour work week. So if you hire someone, now you know
what you're going to pay them based on forty hours. If you hire someone
knowing you have to pay what they say is the same for thirty two,
you're not going to What is the government going to say, Well, you're
hourly, it used to be this, you got to keep it that way.
Yes, they do, that's in the bill. You can't pay them
any less. Yeah, but okay, Mark, what that means is you
can't pay your current workers. What's to prevent Okay, so what are you
saying there? You just fire everybody and start over. No, but attrition,
Well I don't know, imagine there's something in the bill about that.
But with attrition, what's going to prevent you from lowering your pay? Well,
because big corporations, and where I see this affecting are places in retail
like McDonald's or maybe Target and car workers. And then yeah, where you
have to have people McDonald's, if they're open twenty four to seven, someone
has to be there. You're not going to increase productivity because that's going to
be the argument, you're going to get better productivity. But productivity doesn't matter
if McDonald's, it simply doesn't matter. You got to have someone there.
They can work a thousand times harder than they do now, but they can
still only work thirty two hours and the stores open twenty four to seven.
So that's the main problem I see, and places like that Tom they pay
the same amount generally for every position. Walmart in Colorado, if you start
out as a cart pusher, probably pays the exact same amount to every one
of those cart pushers in the state. I don't think they hire. I
mean, think of the arguments that would bring one guy's making twenty bucks an
hour one guy's making ten. Now, where does thirty two hours? Where
did forty hours even come from? I looked it up in Britain the nineteenth
century, the eight hour work week. I'm pretty sure the French only work
three hours a week. The first implementation implementation of the eight hour workday was
in America. In America was by Ford Motor Company in nineteen fourteen, and
then it became part of the Fair Labor Standards Act of nineteen thirty eight to
set a work week at forty hours, So that became law in nineteen thirty
eight. A forty hour work week with overtime starting above that. So now
are we to believe then if there is overtime to be paid, it would
be kicked in if passed at thirty two hours. That's the theory. Yes,
all right now Eric has a comment on the cyber truck go ahead?
Eric, Yes, hey, so on your cyber truck? Why would you
buy something that's not hold value? There was what that's not what? Last
weekend? I didn't hear you with that? Can you hear me now?
Yeah? Yeah, you said, why would I buy? Go ahead?
Why the cyber truck if not apparently holding its value? There was one listed
in the Meekam auto auction last weekend. Not only did it not make reserve,
but it never even got close to the original sale price. Well I
never I didn't even know they. Are you telling me they were outlaw that
there are some for resale right now? Well? What it is? So
apparently if you sell it now because there's still like a moratory amoth selling it,
you lose some stuff through tesla. I forget what the deal is?
What do you mean sell it now? Sell what now? People? Because
there's like a moratorium on reselling vehicle? Eric, I'm asking you this has
anyone actually taken delivery yet. Yes, okay, I didn't know that.
There's three of Yeah, there's three of them here in Colorado. There's one
that's wrapped in Camo. I did not know that. Yeah, yeah,
and I and yeah, there's there's aday of that here. I've seen two
of them. To your to your point, though, Eric, to your
point, Eric, I'm sorry, what car can I go by that doesn't
drop instantly? Either? Well, but this is supposed to be a high
demand vehicle that can't sell for its value. What do you mean it's value?
Don't I don't even know what they sell for you. Okay, So
you pay one hundred and ten thousand dollars for this vehicle, and the one
at Mikamoto auction last weekend did not make reserve and the highest bid was below
the original purchase price. But Eric, how much I don't even know how
much? How much below the purchase price was it? I don't remember,
because I'll make the argument that any car will will go less than the origin.
But I just said any car you buy the second you drive it off
the lot. But this is a vehicle that's a high demand vehicle that supposedly
everybody wants and it's and it did not sell. Because here that's easy because
everyone wants everyone wants a new one. But this is this was a brand
new You'd have to look up the dealer. Tesla does not. Tesla makes
you register it. When you that money that I put down on the cyber
truck, I cannot transfer that name. It has to be me. So
therefore it was a used vehicle. You can buy the vehicle now, but
if you resell it within a certain period of time, you lose some once
you take delivery. If you sell the vehicle within a certain period of time,
Tesla holds against you. I forget the specific. Well, how do
they do it? How do they? Ford? Ford does that too on
their Is there wait a minute, how do they keep you from selling it?
What do the contraction? It's contractual in the agreement when you put the
money down, it's contractual that if you sell it then you don't get a
rebate or something. Yeah, Ford's been doing it for years on their not
their on their GT. It's on the GT. It's on the GT forty
with Ford. And if you sell it within three years then you can never
buy another one, and you are I forget the specifics of it, because
when the brand, when the new g T forty first hit the market a
couple of years ago, it took three Jay Leno bought one of the first
ones, and they specifically said in the thing on it that he could not
sell it for three years, and it took three years before the first one
show up at Barrett Jackson all right to be re sold. Here are some.
There are some used twenty twenty fours for sale private sellers who just took
delivery and they're listed as good deals. And did did Eric hang up?
Eric? Yeah? How much are they? One hundred and eighty nine is
one? Another one with seven hundred miles is one hundred ninety five. Now,
I don't know if they've sold. There's one for there. They're all
going for about one nine to two hundred and fifty to two hundred and twenty
five. You and I are going to be looking around eighty ninety grand when
we get ours tops. Now, there are some white ones. This is
a brand new one, brand new white that must have been repainted or something.
There's one for two hundred and fifty five thousand. It's probably wrapped.
No, it's just a but but they're allover cars dot Com, all over
and car gurus. Yeah, those people ordered them, they were first in
line, they got them. Now they're trying to make a few bucks.
But do you think why would people overpay like that? Because they want it
right away? You know, people want that. Would the guy just say
there's three in Colorado? I mean, you know, people like having the
first thing. Same with corvettes. I mean you remember Rollie. He had
some customers that would pay anything for some of these corvettes. Yeah, so
I don't see where these can't sell. I mean, let's put it this
way. They may not be selling at two hundred and seventeen or one ninety,
but I and I listen, I lost doubt first of those. I
doubt the story that a brand new cyber truck was not selling for the purchase
price, the original purchase. I doubt it. If he bought it for
one hundred and ten, there's no way in hell he couldn't sell it for
one hundred and ten. There's no way. I mean more and more,
the more I look at these, you guys look them up online. They
are set well. I don't know if they're selling, but they are listed
for all kinds of prices near two hundred thousand, and now when is the
other one going to be out? The Roadster? That one? Those are
special order. Man, they're thinking they might start dropping in twenty twenty five.
I don't know if that's correct. The last time the Roadster was out
was like twenty eleven or something. But they're they're a screamer, man,
zero to sixty in point nine seconds, I mean sixty, I mean,
it's absolutely insane. I bet they're gonna top a quarter though. You're gonna
pay two fifty to three hundred for that, maybe four hundred. Yeah,
and we're not talking about practicality now, and yeah, but that's in their
value mark. It's gonna be the fastest car on the planet. There is
no there is nothing even close to that price that can come close to that
speed. So in a lot of ways, it's a bargain. By the
way, three oho three seven one three talk three oh three seven one three
eight two five five. Speaking of cars that don't hold value, I'm telling
you that you can buy use Tesla Model s's for pennies on the dollar compared
to the new price. It's amazing to me, brand new, brand new,
now they start, and you know how that works. But brand new,
there're seventy five thousand. When I bought mine brand new, it was
ninety five, so that alone is bringing down the price. But then the
then the used ones, Oh my god, they're just so. Why is
Tesla so bad at resale? I wonder well, I mean, I'm looking
at them here. I mean I don't. I don't think it's horrible at
resale. I don't know what you're looking at, but I'm looking at modelsues
on cars dot Com selling for what years? O. I mean, let
me see here. Twenty twenty two's okay, I mean so so not many
miles on them, though. What's the ugliest car? Mike? Go ahead,
cars Welsomers, not high end days. Mark likes to say, but
Hyundai Sonata and the Elantra. Do you think the Elantra's ugly? You just
called Tom's daughter's car ugly. I don't think it's ugly. Well, I
don't think so either. Mike's a moron though, Why he just always calls
up just I don't know why he's a moro on his parents? Maybe oh,
because he made fun of the way you say hi, unday, hidy
Mike your you're Mike. Are you there? Yeah? Okay, Mike,
tell me about you told me the ugliest car? What car is driven by?
Jerks? Any car? Mark truck? Okay, boom boom, Thank
you, Mike, appreciate it. Eric, you you hold on, Eric,
hang on, I gotta take this break. He called back to defend
hisself himself on that story about a car cyber truck not selling for what the
guy purchased it for. Every single one of the every single one of these
cyber trucks are selling for one hundred and eighty nine and upwards on cars dot
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back. This is what Eric said on his first call. Guy bought this
cyber truck for one hundred and ten. He tried to auction out. Oh
he he did not say that. What he said is it didn't even meet
the buying price mark. He mentioned one hundred and ten. It didn't come
out of my ass. He meant, I don't know how he did,
but he mentioned one hundred and ten, and he said the guy couldn't even
get what he paid for. It. Is that what you said, Eric?
Yes, and I will stand and I will correct myself because I found
the article. The vehicle was a Foundation series cyber truck, which is a
very limited edition. It was purchased new for one hundred and twenty thousand.
Okay, I have bid offered it Meekham was two hundred thousand, which was
below reserve. Oh well, truck, kay by god. If I bought
a truck. If I bought a truck for one twenty and could sell it
for two hundred, I'd be satisfied. Now here's the other thing too,
And you said it didn't value, Eric, I've made a mistake. Okay,
I made a mistake. Now here's the other thing. Mark, you
were asking about, what about what the penalty is with Tesla? Yeah,
I was from the article. So if you try, if you, if
a buyer resells the vehicle within one year, they are fined fifty thousand dollars
by Tesla or a portion of the resale value, whichever is greater. Oh
my god. The only and the only way you can resell the vehicle on
the secondary market in that first year is if for some reason, Tesla refuses
to repurchase it. So wait a minute. All these people then on cars
dot Com have to pay fifty grand. No, he said, only the
first year. Oh, only in the first year. But the cyber truck
was just released at the beginning of February. Yeah, Mark, every cyber
truck here is the first year that I'm seeing So if yeah, but Tom,
look what they're asking for them, So they're willing to pay the fifty
is what you're saying, well, yeah, if you can get two hundred
fifty and paid one hundred and ten for it, right, But it's the
fifty thousand or greater. The one that killed me is the roadster. So
the roadster. This is the craziest business model I ever heard. If I
go order a cyber truck right now or a model less I know what the
price is. You don't know what the price of their roadster is. And
it's a non refundable fifty thousand dollars, so it could you might think it's
a quarter million, and they all of a sudden price it at one point
two million. You either buy it at one two or you lose your fifty
that's crazy. A non refundable deposit, and you don't know what the end
retail will be, no idea what the price is going to be. Now
that's only the roadster. Whatever do that? Well? I don't know.
Hey, Eric, do you know the difference in models? What is the
null model and what is the foundation model of these trucks? So the as
far as my understanding is the foundation model is limited edition. That's like the
top the line. I wonder what makes the different if the first delivered so,
and within this same article that I found, apparently the owner listed on
a Tesla forum that he actually wanted two hundred and fifty thousand dollars for the
vehicle and the most he could get offered was two oh five. But still,
if if let's say he paid one twenty, he sells it for two
oh five, Tesla's gonna come back and want a greater Porsche. Great.
Now, I understand that, but that's not that's not what you're I that's
not saying the truck doesn't hold value for goodness sakes. So, but the
buyum right now, I'm on Tesla's it's either the rear wheel drive model of
the cyber Truck is fifty eight thousand, the all wheel drive is seventy seven,
and then the cyber Beast, which is eight hundred and forty five horse
power, three motors, three hundred and twenty mile range, is ninety seven.
Okay, now that's probably starting price. What what is it optioned?
Well, I don't know, I'm not I already ordered one. I have
no idea. Yeah, but Mark, when you say you ordered it it
was nothing more than a refundable deposit, No, no, no, no,
no, there is no defund No, no, no, you lose
your deposit. But it's not a lot of money. I made a deposit
too, I didn't know I lost it. Yeah, it's gone, Joe,
Oh I can Oh okay, I didn't know. The guy's absolutely right.
So once, once you're picked in line where they build yours, you're
still going to be five or six months out. So you at that point
they build it with whatever options you want, so I can pick all my
I'm gonna lose my deposit no matter what, so I may as well pick
one I like in case I want it, right. Yeah. So,
uh, and you can't transfer that deposit, can you. No, you
can't transfer the name. It's got to be in your name the vehicle.
You might be able to say, oh, okay, I'm going to buy
a modeless instead that I don't No, I don't know why that would be
an issue, but they're not going to let you say, hey, I
want to give it to my son. It's gonna have to be registered in
your name. By the way, the bet of this thing is pretty useless.
I saw that too. It's like an El Camino. I mean,
it really is pretty useless. So it's a cyber truck. Yes, but
man, I think he just did this to look crazy, just to look
crazy, you know, I mean, and it really does look a lot
like a DeLorean. Okay, what's on your mind? People? This would
have to go in the category of one of the ugliest vehicles three O three
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you call three oh three Martino twenty four to seven three oh three six two
seven eight four sixty six. So we're discussing the ugliest cars. We're discussing
the cars driven by idiots we're discussed or morons, or how about how about
the ugliest shop owners? Well, we got them right here and they win.
Oh and then we have we have the uh whatever you want to call
it, the the thirty two hour work week and how that's going to work
or if what do you think about it? I mean, I don't think
you can cheat math. And then we're talking about the real estate commissions,
just like you can't cheat math. No matter what you legislate, people,
will you know, money's going to seek its level. Consumers always end up
footing the bill, always end up with the labor. Consumers foot the bill.
It all there's no made up money. The government doesn't make up money,
nor does it. It just doesn't or nor can it discount things.
Everything is made up everything. It's just an election year. Money is the
perfect system in that. What I mean by that is it's a perfect system
in that. No matter how you try to take away from one end,
it adds to another. There's always he's a positive and a negative never ever,
ever, ever, Even with inflation. You know, people say,
well, inflation's bad, but people selling things for more money probably like it,
but then they have to pay more with labor and more with everything else.
And the same with deflation or recession, the same thing. It's cheaper,
but you have less money to go around. It's weird. Three oh
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Hi Tom Martino here, three oh three seven one three talk seven one
three eight two five five. All right? Have you ever done a wrong
number? Like? Yeah, well we've done pocket dialing, right, but
actually wrong number where you think you're talling? Okay? Have you ever I
just I just want to take a little temperature here, and I'm not admitting
to anything. Have you ever called someone and while it's ringing, you forgot
who you were calling? Oh? God help him, it didn't. It
didn't happen to me, liar once in my life? Has that ever happened
to you? Who did you just forget to call? No? No,
I didn't. I'm just asking questions because something can't here. And then here's
another thing. This is the worst that could happen, and yet it happens.
But I want to know if anyone had missed this. Have you ever
been texting and for some reason, you're on the last text you did and
then you get a new text, so you want to respond to that text,
but you respond on the wrong yes text. Oh, but have you
ever done it where for example, Mark's texting with me, right and he's
the last one, and then then I read okay. So then all of
a sudden, I get a text from someone else and it says, you
know what's happened and blah blah blah, and then you remark I can't right
now. I'm on I'm texting Mark. He's an ass blah blah blah.
Okay, No, no, I'm Sarah, I'm dead, Sarah. Have
you ever I've done that once? Okay, I actually responded to someone talking
about the person who uh, never mind. My poor dad. I was
texting back and forth with him before he came out for his eightieth birthday,
which was I don't know, a few months ago. Yeah, so I
was so frustrated. I was texting him in one text and Suzanne on the
other that's right, And I was telling Suzanne, he's still not doing this.
He's not going to bring out a sea pat machine. And I was
getting very frustrated with my dad because of his health. Yeah, he's a
pain in the ass or whatever. He's a whatever. And I accidentally sent
back to him what a pain in the ass he was, and I realized
I did it after I said it, So the only thing I could come
up with is, I said, Dad, I just get very frustrated with
you when it comes to how you're taking care of yourself. And that was
actually meant for Suzanne, and I'm sorry you saw it. So I'm not
going to mention any names. So if somebody outs themselves, it's not because
of me. But I got one earlier today during the show, and it
says, just get home safely. I love you very much and missed you.
But it wasn't my wife. It wasn't your wife. No, it
was somebody who did at my mistake, let me ask you. This was
it Jeff sitting next to you and then and then it says, oh damn,
this wasn't for you. And then I wrote I like the part miss
you anyway, that's funny and if she can out herself if she wants,
but anyway, that's what brought it up. So to your first thing,
though, I want to say this, three ZHO three Martino is one digit
off from a electric company. So at a certain time of the month when
electric bills are due or passed due, we probably get I mean up to
thirty fifty messages from these poor people that think they're calling the power company.
I know it, and I forget one time I got this is a true
story. I get a phone call and it says stop I or some wait
wait wait, wait what happened? Oh, somebody called me by mistake,
that's what it was. And she says he knows about us, you know,
and it was a wrong number. And I said, what are you
talking about? Just he and then all of a sudden I hear him yelling
this guy and he grabs her phone and he gets on the phone and says,
listen, I know who you are. I found out about this.
It's going to end today. And he says, in fact, if you
don't get over here, and we talked this out in like an hour,
there's going to be hell to pay, and hangs up. You got this?
Yeah, holy moly. Now that poor had no idea he was supposed
to be coming over And this wasn't This was before I don't believe it was
a self. It was a long time ago. But it's God's honest truth.
But it was. I didn't tapture number. It's like, it's not
like I could call him back. So I was saying that, but this
is not me. You know, you know, if I don't show up,
I don't want your wife getting hurt. No, but seriously, I'll
never forget that call. Then another one, I get a call and the
guy says, well, I thought this was so and so, and I
says no, he says, and he thought it was a bottom line.
He thought it was a sex line. But for some reason that morning,
and I was in Franktown and it was a snowy day, I had gotten
three or four of those calls. So somehow remember how they used to say
lines were crossed. Yeah, but at a dollar ninety nine a minute,
ninety nine stents, you said just a minute after that, I will talk
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Hi Tom Martine, you're a troubleshooter. Three oh three seven one three
talk three oh three seven one three eight two five five. Okay, Oh,
let's go to Kelly. Kelly, what are you calling in about?
Pray? Tell o, Kenny, I accidentally tested you. I didn't out
you, okay, just so you know, I didn't mention. I didn't
mention your name. Go ahead, it's been a weird day, okay.
So out there listening, yeah with me. I told Tom I loved him,
and hurry, and you talked about your uh, your your school.
You're on the Monarch. You said, hey, they're playing like crap.
Oh yeah, Purdue they were earlier. I had him on in the background.
But honestly, I didn't get to watch the show because I'm working here,
you know, so I'm trying to back you know, Jacksey and everybody
who's you know, well us who are snowed in and everything. Apparently Purdue
one, So I'm happy about that. But it was really funny because when
I texted back and I'm like to my husband, that's all you have?
Nothing like off? Oh that he didn't answer you. I see, yes,
yes, yes, and he goes and he goes, what are you
talking about? I would have answered the part. I would have answered the
part about bringing home some uh, never mind. But it was so funny.
No, no, no, what was read the whole text? No,
it was. It was not a bad text. It was I can't
talk right now, working are e? Oh our h o a f h
o A f ing sucks and I'm tired of this. I don't know what.
Oh the snow plow got it. Purdue is playing like blankety blankety blank
blank blank blank. Oh my god, I'm over that. And I'm over
that too, sal safely. I love you very much and missed you.
That was all I think. That's what people. Yeah, that was not
a great time in my life at this day. But you know it's all
good. O Kelly, thank you for owning it. I've done that,
man, I've texted people before that. I said, oh God, did
I just text that person? So I got to go on to mail.
Now, mail, what's going on with you? You have an ugliest car?
What is it? Well, I'm surprised. You haven't told this one
yet, But it's a Nissan Juke. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah?
Is that the that's the first one people made. A lot of people
hate the way that car looks over in England. They call it the joke.
You know what. Someone else mention that too. I don't know what
they have against it. I think it's kind of cute. What about that
little what about that little electric Beamer? The little looks like a mini car
almost people, Oh it looks so ugly anyway. Also, what about that
little Mercedes car? What do they call it? Anyway? You know that
little tiny one looks like a half a car or a quarter of a car.
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Hi, Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three
seven one three talk three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
What is happening in your life? Today? Is car Day? We're talking
about all kinds of stuff though, anything you want to talk about. We
were talking about the ugliest car cars old or new, that you think.
I think, as I said before, the newer ones I don't think so
much are ugly as much as they are boring. And we're also talking about
the cars driven by jerks the most. But Kenny wants to talk about car
insurance. Kenny, Hi, what's going on? Kenny? I'm looking for
some good car insurance as cheap as possible, because they just keep raising it,
raising it, raising it. Yeah, and there's there's really Okay,
you're not gonna find cheap, but you will find some cheaper than others.
Okay, if that makes sense. There is no cheap coverage anymore. And
of course, if you are looking for cheap, you can find basic,
basic, basic coverage, but that doesn't protect you. Now, you may
not need protection if you have a low net worth and no one will come
after you. So what is your situation? Let's talk about that first.
What is your situation. I'm gonna be sixty five and then I have my
wife and I have a son, and you're gonna be sixty five. And
do you have a lot of net worth? Enough? Like, tell me
what you have? Do you have a house? Yes? And how much
equity? A lot? Half a million dollars? And what about savings or
investments a little? You know, one hundred thousand dollars. Okay, So
yeah, you need more than the minimum insurance and you know that right.
Yeah. I guess my question is is all it's like AARP pulls up on
the phone. No they're not good. No, no, no, none
of it. You listen. You're going to run into trouble if you try
to find online stuff. Okay, you need to talk to an agent,
a broker local. I want you to call Compass Insurance Group, okay,
and I want you to talk to them because they represent about twenty six companies
or so they're not beholden to any one company and they will shop the best
for you and what you need. But you do not beware of low low
price insurance. That's just gonna do. Like what is the state minimum right
now? Fifteen and twenty five? Is that that smaller? Is it twenty
five? I mean whatever it is. The first car accident you have,
they'll come after your house. I mean you do not want cheap car insurance
now, is your right? I mean cheap? I meant no, I
understand what is your what is your what is your car? Are you gonna
do collision and comprehensive and liability right? Yeah, they're all like new.
There's a twenty sixteen Silverado, there's the two seventeen Honda Civic. Yeah.
Then you're gonna want all that coverage and you can get group coverage and then
get your home. See, if you do this group policy, you're gonna
save money. What are you paying now if you take your three cars plus
your house, what are you paying right now? I don't know what the
house is. My wife's kind of takes care of that one. But you're
gonna to get the best prices. To get the best prices, you should
group them together, right right? No, Like I take care of the
vehicles, she takes care of the house. What I mean is you should
group the house and cars together to get the best rates. It is,
I just don't know what to is. Okay, got it, got it,
got it. So here's what I want you to do. Ask for
an insurance checkup at Compass three h three nine nine six nine thousand, nine
thousand. Yeah, and you ask for an insurance checkup, tell them you
talked with me. I would love to hear the results, what you're paying
now and what they were able to find. That would be wonderful if you
could do that for us. Okay, now it is Choppers turn. Deputy
Chopper. You have a follow up. What's going on? Man? Yes,
sir? Actually, I guess these are what I would call a shout
down to three different Uh. Do you want me to go ahead? Yes,
sir, one at a time. Here, let me'll be check
him out here, go ahead. Okay. Do you remember this one started
in January of January teenth a poor guy had an RV problem and it's been
in Texas since then. Yes, yeah, yeah, yes, yes,
we're trying to find that one. What was his name his name that David,
but David, but the company was Rocky Mountain or No. Yeah,
right, And I remember this guy. This guy had had a breakdown and
it was down there and they couldn't get it fixed or something. Yeah,
it was a mess. Yeah, the toe bill was too much to bring
it. But now Ford has stepped up and he should be getting it back.
The second one, Tom, well, that's good. I mean keep
us informed on that one. That was a really frustrating one. The second
one was the guy that went to Firestone up there on one hundred and fourth
then drove his car to work. What yeah, what's his will fell off?
Is that where I remember that? What? What is his first name?
Uh? Bryan Ryan? No, Brian with a beat? Okay,
Brian got it? Okay, So go ahead. And what's going on with
that one? I have talked and pushed and pushed. They play the game
of we'll get back to you, but they never get back. His car
is still up there at Firestone and he's getting nailed with uh rental fees and
everything. They did a they did four tires on his two thousand and nine
Subaru. He has one hundred and sixty thousand miles on it. One went
flat. They replaced the tire and on the same day that wheel fell off.
Are they agreeing to fix it, it's just been delayed. Yes,
they are agreeing to fix it. I used it an old technique that I
learned from you. They're willing to fix it and give them the car on
an insurance claim. So, but they haven't done it. He's still waiting.
Did they even start on it. No, No, we are just
hoping they respond to the insurance claim that he had to fill out and then
I have one more. Okay, now hold on on that other one.
They're willing to fix it. Are they waiting for the insurance to pay.
Maybe no, because we filed a claim with the its brick stone firestones,
they're insurance pay for it. But yeah, okay, we're doing it.
Okay, We're going to have to step this up a bit, maybe have
to uh ah, keys, I don't I don't know what to do on
this one. This is okay, what's the next one? I got to
think about that one. What's the next one? The last the last one
happened clear back in October of twenty twenty three, and this is a solar
company. You might remember this they what's her name or his name? Uh?
I think was Mike and Kelly Mike. Okay, let's go. What
happened. The solar company is Ion Solar. Oh yeah, I remember something
with Ion. They didn't qualify, so they went to another solar company which
qualified him. They had the solar system put on. Now as of this
week, Ion is sending them a letter saying, you're now qualified. We're
coming out to put a solar system on. And I said, well that,
well they can't do that. I mean bit in the contract expire for
goodness sakes. Yeah, but they had some sort of little one sentence clause
in it about uh US five thousand dollars or else. But they haven't pushed
for me. Do they still want the solar or not? No, they
got the solar from another company that didn't Oh no. So now this company
is saying that we're well, that's ridiculous. They didn't qualify, and so
they went with another company. And then these jerks come back months later saying,
now you qualify, Well, how long were they expecting to keep that
contract open? That's that there's no way, There is no way, and
they so they want them to pay like liquid dated damages or something. I
think that's how you would refer to it. Did you talk to them about
it? Oh? Yeah, we've talked to them and they're not going to
do it. And at least that Ion Solar has not pushed, you know,
for their five thousand dollars. Here's what I would say. I want.
I want them to stay in touch with us. If Ion tries to
collect that money, let's just leave it alone until then. That's that's what
I said, and they will. That's all I've got. I'm working on
some others, but I just wanted the listeners to know we don't give up.
Well, okay, I wanted to ask you something. So we were
joking around about going and rescuing Mark and Suzanne, and some guys said,
well, you should just land the helicopter. Now, you said that if
there's loose snow on the ground and you try to land a helicopter, you
could get into big trouble. Isn't that right? I said, you could
get a whiteout condition, right. It probably wouldn't affect you, no,
no, no, but you would stir up a lot and you could literally
be blind. And when you're blind, you don't know where the ground is
exactly and it can disorient you, right, that could be that could be
true. Yeh. And so a lot of people don't understand that. Why
can't they rescue people under certain conditions? They can if they stay farther above
the ground, but if they don't, they actually cause a condition that's dangerous
to themselves and others. It's really weird. But the reason I'm talking chopper
about and everyone has benches so they don't get down that low and cause that.
Now, can that happen near the ocean too, with water or not?
Well, the ocean is a little bit different story. But you lose
your percessive on the horizon. Ah, that's what throws a lot of people
off. You don't know where you're at because you don't know where the horizon
is sometimes and that happens more at night. And that's what they speculated happened
to young John Kennedy that he wasn't that they said. They kept saying the
weather was clear, the weather was clear, but he was truly in blackout
conditions because he was in a clear sky, over clear water and a clear
everything, and he didn't know where he was I mean, and he was
gradually just getting lower and lower lower and lower lower. And that can happen
too. And you know with you with your bird or the bird I used
to fly, you can go out east and lose all the lights at night.
I had the same condition. That's exactly right. In fact, one
of the things that they used to do with me in Florida and here for
for your recurrent training is in Florida, they would head out to the ocean.
They would head out toward the well. We were at the on the
Gulf side, so they would head west. You'd go off shore and it
would be at night and then they'd make you do maneuvers complete black condition,
not being able to see the horizon. And the same thing here at night.
If you head east at night and it's not a really big starry night,
you can totally be in pitch black. Yeah, that's uh, that's
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We have Kevin Colkin with us from Sheridan Autotech, Jeffic Kimmeer Transmission.
Let's talk about uh snow like this and it hasn't been extremely cold or Wendy.
Does snow like this present any real problem to a car. I mean
I don't think it does, but does it well? I mean in any
snow condition. I mean particularly Kevin's going to see a lot of people coming
with curb shots herb shots out. Dude, what hitting curb spending the siding?
When we get heavier snow like we got now, we'll start getting inundated
with people who thought they could rock themselves out? What does that do to
a transmission? When you're going back and forth and back and forth reverse to
drive, they're not rocking it properly. So they're taking a moving vehicle.
So you've got six seven pounds, you're moving in one direction, and then
you're immediately trying to change direction without stopping. So what does that do?
It's just like any two parts if you're banging them together and trying to pull
them apart, so it does slam. The gear will slam, overheat them
when they sit there, and spin them. So is there a way to
properly rock I mean you want to use the momental the vehicle itself. I
mean you'll get some natural rock and roll out of it. So if you're
going forward, you're tipping into it. But you want to come to a
total stop before you change or just you know, if you can even while
it's stealing gear, because you've got a hydraulic slip, uh, you know,
naturally and momental will bring you back and then you can try to change
your momental. Can you hurt your car by spinning your wheels by trying to
get out, not rocking, but just spinning it grabs real hard? Uh,
you could. You could strip gears, You could the planets the train.
If you spin real hard and then all of a sudden it grabs,
you can do damage. You can definitely do damage. And particularly most you
know, differentials are what we call an open carrier. You don't have posi
traction. So when you lose traction in one wheel spinning any other one state
of stationary, well those gear the's got smaller gears in there, and they
are spinning at an incredible rate and they will eventually come apart. Oh my
goodness, these are things we don't know. And that's even before you redline
RPMs. Really they're not made for it. They just they're not made to
stand it. So the RPM is the engine rpm, not the wheel rpm.
Correct, Okay, any other things like that. Never knew about those
things. These are good to know. I mean, I I have an
all wheel car or drive car that was pretty heavy, but it was wet
snow, and I all of a sudden I found myself not being able to
move on one section. So what I did was, wait a minute.
This is an all wheel drive, you know, supposed to be a ballsy
car. And and I was shocked. I was trying to come out of
a parking space in this parking lot that was loaded with wet snow. And
then so what I did is I was able to move forward, Jeff.
So I moved forward, put on my brake, then I put it in
reverse and gunned it, and then I got out. But I mean,
what do you do when you start slipping? You do not want to just
spin. You don't want to just spin it. Quite frankly, you're going
to make that slip condition worse anyway, because you're you're just creating ice or
a slickery condition underneath the tires. All right, So we talked about spinning,
we talked about rocking. What else? What are other things? Can
you get any problems from ice and snow accumulating underneath? Not really right?
The only thing I've seen sometimes is to get up in the cooling fans.
It was like if you're stuck in a drift or something, the snow will
pack and your cooling fans aren't coming on. And I've seen it where it
elastically ice up around the shift cable, where now it's actually stuck in whatever
position it's at because it's frozen around it. Really, but don't do most
cars have cables now for shifting. These are starting to be fewer and fewer,
but yeah, the majority of them still do. And those cables can
freeze up. Yeah, okay, I will build up around them, just
like anything, and snow melts and we have slushy wet conditions. Have you
ever noticed in the spring This happens a lot in Colorado where you have like
some intersections that gets so deep and people just barrel through it. Can you
hurt your car? Depending on where that water goes? Yeah? Where do
you not want the water? Well, you don't want to go in any
intake because it will hurt your age. You will lock an engine up,
You're done, You're done. Why hydraulic lock? Yeah? It can't compress
water, it can't, so it bends stuffy water. Is that strong for
automotive purposes, A liquid cannot be compressed or for what we're trying, it
has to be atomized like and explode, and the water when it's splashes,
we'll lock it up. So although liquid can be compressed, we're not running
the kind of materials and the kind of compression that actually takes to do that.
So is this why when you have cars that do a lot of off
roading they have these high snorkel intakes to keep water and debris out of the
engine, and they'll raise all their vents keep them out of the transmission,
to keep them out of the differentials, and so on and so forth.
What about the actual exposure, not the intake, but the exposure of the
elements of the engine and the lower part of the engine to water when you're
driving through water. The only thing that's really susceptible be where they mount computer.
Sometimes they're not, but there's no way water can get into an engine
just driving through it. It's the intake you're worried about. Yeah, I
suppose it's possible if that engine was hot enough and that water's cold enough,
you can start cracking components too. Now, I something I've seen videos at
times, maybe youtubes where people have these aggressive four wheel drive trucks and these
big giant snorkels. So the intake is totally protected and the engine is damn
near half underwater. How do they run You're not running those hot temperatures.
It's in theory, Like I said, you could crack it. I mean,
we've seen people crack things like hes by trying to wash their engines inside
of the sea washing the engines are pretty much waterproof then otherwise things would be
leaking out of correct sure, so you can barrel through that a bit.
I mean it's not going to be the greatest. Now where does it start
really affecting in the electrical part? Though you can't get water on that the
interior, you start getting water. Something you've put much a couple of inches
on the floor will submerge computers. But manufacturers do a lot in order to
try to protect electric components. There's all sorts of weather ceiling just on connectors
themselves, on wires that go from we can do to further protect our cars
from water, yeah, well from moisture. Out of it. From moisture.
What about the is there a spray or other things you can do to
protect your car it's really not necessary as long as somebody else to do undone
it normal operation, yes, okay. But the other thing is too is
when all this is gone. Okay, I've been treating our rods with salt
Brian and mad chloride, and it's extremely corrosive. After the snow is gone,
get a car wash and make sure to get an undercarriage wash. Get
that out of there. Yeah, because that's corrosive. It's corrosive. It's
rusting your car to bits. Okay. So when when I had a car,
I wanted to really take good care of it in the past, and
I would do all my own stuff these years. You know, look,
we all had cars, we've nurtured like kids. Right do you remember gunk?
M Okay, you spray it on the engine and clean it off.
Is there any reason to ever clean your engine as an individual? Seriously?
Now? Is there anything you want to do from I'm even making it look
good? Is there anything you help your engine by cleaning it out with a
wand from the car wash or a hole you have oil? Because oil will
stoften the coatings on the electrical and the houses and everything else. Engines probably
won't happen. Probably won't have a leak. You won't have to keep you
know, just blow it off with air if you to blow the dust off.
And most cars I notice nowadays are shrouded to a point where they almost
look like they're all like molded. Yep, some of them. No you
can't. So you guys have to take all that crap off just to look
at it. In some cases it's as easy as pulling the oil cap and
moving it out of the way. They're not held down with a whole lot.
Oh okay, But this shrouding is that for cooling, for looks or
for what cosmetics? Are a little bit of everything there, I mean,
yeah, you want to keep one idea is you want to keep the individuals
who own these vehicles out of the engine bank, right, They don't want
to touching stuff. Yeah, you can't get some more cool and effect from
because your trapping errors is coming through. You are really just making it more
aesthetically pleasing when you open it up. You really are, you really are.
But the days of those engines, you open up the hood and can
see right through to the ground and all around you don't see ever, no,
ever, very few some trucks maybe, But yeah, anyway, we
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Alliance three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino here
three oh three seven one three talk three oh three seven one three eight two
five five. We haven't talked about this in a while, but has supply
of all of the repair parts and so are they back to normal? Is
everything back to normal the supply chain? Are we still We can't possibly be
feeling COVID anymore. I don't know if it's COVID or they just I think
it's the new normal. It is not COVID. I think it's the new
normal. I think what happened was people realize the cost of stocking, the
cost of inventory, the cost of all of this, and they just make
people. Wait. I've never heard of any body shop yet since COVID,
and I'm not going to blame COVID entirely, but you used to be able
to get your car in a body shopping back in a week. That never
happens ever until July one. To get my truck in, Okay, that's
to get it in, Okay, I've waited months to get it in and
then it was a month to get it out. I mean, you just
don't get things done in a week anymore. And here's what I said to
the body shop. Don't have me bring my car, and this is a
minor thing, don't have me bring it in until you have the parts.
You know, I don't want to sit order the parts. And then they
say, well, we don't know everything we need. I said, but
you know pretty much what you need, right, don't you think, Jeff?
The most part. I mean, until they take it apart, there
may be unseen damages, but you can at least get what you can see.
Yeah. What about new car prices? Are they still at a premium
or do you think they're more realistic? I guess it depends on the car,
doesn't it I really haven't heard of people getting the outrageous premiums that they
were getting over MSORP as of recent No, no, it depends you're right.
And of course cars like Tesla just dropped their prices and that pissed off
a lot of legacy buyers, people who used to buy them and love them.
They're saying, look, you just screwed my investment. But a lot
of cars now, the electric cars. Are the electric cars selling? And
what are you guys doing about that? Kevin? Have you you had to
have given this thought. I know you're old enough, you might be retired
and say, the hell, I don't know what you plan on doing with
you. Sure, we're taking a lot of different classes in different I mean
you're going to have to learn it right exactly, because we do other work
on the electric cars other than the electric part, you know, the suspension
breaks, other things we're there. Are they all about the same as a
gas car? Very similar? Are they lighter and different? You can't tell?
And then Jeff, there's no transmission, right, there is no transmission
other pretty much a direct drive. So how does this affect you? And
there's going to be so many you do most of the older work anyway.
The fact of the matter is the electric car is not selling the way the
government is trying to force them down people's throats. Do you have the electric
Ford Mustang? They can't. They cannot keep those out there on the lot
because nobody wants to drive them. When Okay, So you're saying that even
though the government says twenty thirty five, the consumer doesn't want it twenty thirty
five. Is that unrealistic for one hundred percent until they build an infrastructure.
Yes, we don't have an infrastructure that's going to be able to Is it
five and the cars are electric now? Or three percent they have? You
know, California had to tell everybody please don't charge your cars tonight. We
don't have enough power. I just googled one will electric cars take over?
Actually it says here that by twenty thirty now listen, that's not a long
time away. They say the global market will be near ninety percent. Do
you really believe that? No, Well, we were also supposed to be
underwater by now if you listen to Al Gore. But do you so?
So? I don't know, but a lot of people are saying they they
don't want electric cars okay, And what is the deadline? Is it twenty
thirty? I believe it is. President Biden's order was Oh, never mind,
never mind. It says here fifty percent of all new vehicles by twenty
thirty. That should be easy. No, in six years or not?
Oh no, that might be. What is the percentage? What are the
percentages right now? Do you know a percentage? We'll find that out.
But people, here's what I want to know. What is keeping you right
now from buying an electric car? You can text me as well threeh three
seven one three eight. Let me look at my chick. I haven't in
a while. Here Oh ugly cars on the text. But by the way,
text me that too, or call me on that are what's keeping you
from an electric vehicle? Here? Listen to this one the Reliant Robin.
I've never heard of a reliant Robin. What the hell is a Reliant Robin?
An ugly car? The other one says the DeLorean is an ugly car.
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two. So my first brand new car, brand new car. I was
in college and I paid fourteen hundred and ninety five dollars for it. It
was a Honda six hundred, A three cylinder or was it a two no,
no, excuse me, two cylinder six hundred cc. I forget how
many cylinder. It was a six hundred cc. That's why they call it
the sixth some one that came with the blade so you could run over the
grass. Right. Yeah, So anyway, this was a little Honda car.
And I remember I said, I can't believe it. I'm going to
get my first new cars in college. I was in Florida, and I
figured i'd use it, brought it home. You know, when you're in
Florida and you go to college on spring break, you go home, you
know, back north instead of coming back south. Anyway, do you know
how much it costs me? It cost me to drive home with that car?
Ten dollars in gas from Miami, Florida to New York. Ten dollars.
But during the depression, that was quite a bit of monthent Yeah,
right, So anyway, so that might have been nineteen seventy five, right,
No, no, earlier than that, I'm sorry, seventy three,
seventy four. But here's the bottom line is that that Honda was the precursor
of the Honda Company. And then but that was the first new car.
What was your first new car? Your first new car? It was actually
a two thousand and one Chevy Halftime pick up. And what was yours?
I was an eighty seven gmc picket so pickups, okay, and you were
was that in Colorado? Yeah? Okay, so yeah, And I wasn't
into trucks at that time. But in any case, the uh, what
was the lousiest car you have ever purchased in your life? Mine was a
SOB. It was an old Sab. That's what we call them sob stories.
Oh my god, okay, good good boom boom. What about you?
The lousiest car ever? Ah? It was a nineteen seventy four Chevy
Vega. Okay, I can see that. I had the Granada. The
Granada okay, a neighbor's car I bought going away to college because it was
cheap and I hated that car. Okay. What was the biggest car you
ever owned? Mine was a pot Pontiac Catalina. Yeah, I drive a
three quarter ton Chevy. Now that okay, I guess trucks would be what
about car? Okay, that would have been a boat. And then the
smallest car our mind was that Honda six hundred. What would be the smallest
vehicle you ever owned? That was also the Vega? What was the fastest
vehicle you ever owned? I got in a lot of trouble in a shabelle
ss. What is that chavell ss? Okay? So I had a sixty
seven Mustang I mine is even there between the Corvette. It was a Greenwood
Corvette and it wasn't really owned. It was traded with Purefoy at the time,
and but but it was my car and at the time. And then
a Ferrari and uh, the worst purchase I ever made was a Ferrari as
far as value and and people say why why? Why? Because it was
stupid and it was expensive, and you couldn't drive it anywhere. You couldn't
drive you couldn't put miles on it. It's exotic cars are the stupidest thing
you can ever do in your life. And I was young and stupid.
Say that. That is the story there if if you want to buy an
exotic car, Corvette's the most practical at this point. So now, many
years later, he's no longer. Well that's true. But even if I
that's right. But no matter what their stupid investors effort, they're not an
investment. Don't ever call a car an investment ever. Okay, so,
what was the slowest car you ever owned? Sixty five Volkswagon? Okay,
I had a Carmen Gia. Mm I can't say I was over actually truly
lacking for too much power ever, so no, okay, no, but
my Volkswagen Bug was probably slower than a Karma Gia. But anyway, folks,
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