Weird things happened in the backyard. So weird, weird, weird. Wow,
Happy Halloween. This is the Halloween Special hosted by mooder Man and I'm
Slippy from star Fucks. I love this like di Y costume vibe. I'm
so inspired by it. Yeah, we can tell you're inspired by it.
Casey like got this really cute frog hat. And then I was trying to
figure out what I wanted to be for the Halloween episode, and she kept
saying, just be a frog, just be a frog. She wanted me
a dress in all green and wear this hat and just be a frog.
I was like, I'm not going to just be a frog. Yeah,
and then she just kept done before what's that guy's that does the call in
show dressed as a get go? See? I was thinking about that,
but Lyle, I actually love his show, by the way, that's so
cool. But anyway, yeah, I was. She just kept you gotta
be a frog, and so I was like, what do I know any
cool frogs? And then I thought about Slippy. I like Starbucks, So
yeah, I'm Slippy. I just wanted to give the world a hero that
they've never seen, you know, but one that's needed desperately in these times.
Uh huh, the protector of peace and the dispeller of negativity. Put
your hands in closer, Put them in closer. They're out of frame,
all right. Yeahude, this is a superhero that I can't get behind.
Yeah, my power is weaving mudras and promoting positivity, meditation and enlightenment.
So in reality, like, it's just you. You know, one could
say that, one could say that it's just I mean, you do all
that stuff. Yeah, you do mudras. You weave mudras, as you
said. You like lyrical dress. I like that. Yeah, you you
sends out over the airwaves. That's right, that's right. Yeah, hit
him a little bit of a ome. This is like your rapper, like
like alter ego right now. My rapper alter ego is Merlin, that's right.
Yeah yeah, yeah I like that. So I'm not even you're just
gonna skip right over my costume. Your what is your costume? I don't
don't say it? Am an angel? Oh wow? Wow, wow you're
so you just you man? What was that? So you're an angel?
That was good? Yeah? I'm all white fucking original. It's amazing.
What about the black pants. I'm not wearing pants Wow. All right,
let's get right past that. We got too many ladies getting excited over here
in the Alex doing the episode no pants on. We got a gloss right
over that. So I wanted to get into the like origins of Halloween,
but I must admit I was very traumatized by the Valentine's episode. You were
traumatized, yeah, because, like, dude, you're like, what you
can see the whole studio in your glasses right now? You can see my
desk. Yo, that's awesome. Wow, that's like part of your super
I'm a reflection of you, man, I am a reflection of you.
That's a crown chalker chant. You said that, like the sense from Napoleon
Dynamite. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a crown
choker chant. Anyway, Well, what did you say, break the risk
walk away, break the snap the wrists, walk away, snap the risk,
walk away? I love that with the Oh he has a do rag.
It is the American flag, remember, no, it's American flag pain
yeah right man, Yeah, but he does have a Dude, for all
I know, he's wearing a Superman do rag. Just I do need to
show this. So so moder Man is very intentional, and he's not.
He's not afraid of showing his influence from other great heroes. And I said,
the masters before him. So you know, you might see the Superman
logo on the do rag that where you point it, you know, Yeah,
yeah, there you go, there you go. They hit him with
the beam of enlightenment. Yeah, but there's more because when I turn a
walk away and my mission is complete, they're always reminded by the same Yeah.
No, yeah, move the camera. Yo. If that's not a
beacon of justice, I don't know. Oh man, and he's throwing up
the mudras. It's a beach towel. Oh it is real. Yeah,
don't tell people that, dude. Oh hey, hold on, hold up.
Also, for anybody out this is so niche. But for anybody out
there who grew up like super Christian, there was a character named Bible Man.
There was a superhero, Alex. Do you know about Bible Man?
Bible You don't know? It was a Catholic man. Oh yeah, yeah.
You had like Pope Man or whatever. So you had staff Man,
you had mass Man mass Man. Yeah. But anyway, there was a
character named Bible Man and he was like Christian Batman and he was like all
purple and yellow and super jazz. I had a lightsaber too, That's right,
I had a lightsaber. He was just like, so they just took
ship from everywhere. Oh yeah yeah, and he would just beat the ship
out of people and then like quote Bible versus uh huh yeah, Like wait,
so it's like pulp fiction. Oh yeah, okay, that's that's pretty
good. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's kind of like pulp fiction.
But anyway, Ryan is the new age version of Bible Man mujer man is.
I've even got the the Tibetan beads that Alex bought me, the prayer
beads. It's this is sick, really ties it together. This is possibly
my aumn what was it? Aman? This is possibly my favorite like alter
ego of yours that's ever spawned from your mind. There's more where that came
from. So I was really traumatized by the Valentine's episode because I did all
this research and then we blew through the notes on like ten minutes. Oh
that part, okay, so we're gonna paste this one out. But I
also have about eight times more notes this time, so it should go like
eight times as long. Then so about you know, sixteen minutes. Okay,
okay, I just wait for that. Yeah, but no, I
want to get into it because the roots of Hallween are very cool, and
actually I did not know it as well as I thought I did. I'm
I'm definitely gonna have to read a lot of this because before we get into
the nitty gritty real quick. But we gotta have some fun on this episode.
Uh what, what's what's your favorite costume you've ever worn for Halloween?
Okay, that's my favorite? It was honestly fair enough, bruh Alex,
what's your favorite? That's a tough one. Have you do you even do
that? I feel like you're the kind of guys I don't dress up.
I mean, clearly look at you today, all right? That he didn't
know we were doing Halloween episode, which is worse I texting about it for
a week. Dude, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna have this out on
the show right now. That's okay, you work today, It's fine,
I know. No. So I just I saw you guys arguing, not
arguing, discussing whether it was going to be this weekend or the next time
we meet or and I'm just like, I'm at work and I'm just reading
it, and I'm like, I don't know. I feel like someone will
hit me in the face and be like, yo, it's Halloween episode.
But I really want to do you saw wrong? We didn't. We didn't
do that. Yeah, we can't read your mind and know that you didn't
read it. Now it's my fault. I'm not sitting here dressed. Is
Alex the Angel? Yeah, Alex the Angel? I look good? Yeah,
you're right. I mean I really need to dress up. You're scary
enough anyway. What's your favorite Halloween you ever? He looks really good?
You want to say it again? The super super good? Okay, wait
Superman good? Hut up, dude, what's your favorite freaking Halloween costume you?
The first one that comes to my mind was I was a swat guy
one year. That that, dude, And uh, that's the most Alex
answer, dude. I was obsessed with yeah, with fire ems and like
police like is this public servant stuff? I was all in, is this
when you're little? Or yeah? Yeah? Yeah, I was probably like
eight. Nice I didn't dress up as a swap person. Is at like
twenty? Hey, listen, that's fully what I expected. I'm not gonna
lie. I expected, like, yeah, dude, when I was like
when my twenty first like when I was twenty one, I went out as
a swat guy on Halloween. It was sick, I can't. Then I
served the next day and it was fucking sweet. I haven't had many adult
Halloween costumes. One year I was in Ninja with a cape. That was
pretty cool. A ninja with a cape, uh huh, that sounds pretty
uh. And I had like a huge like Harvard weapon that was actually like
a martial arts training weapon. That sounds pretty awesome. It was cool.
I think my favorite is one year I went as a star Lord. I
think I remember that. That was cool. I remember that. Yeah.
I literally went to Goodwill and found a red like leather jacket kind of no,
no, no, no no. It was a red trench coat,
a red leather trench coat, and I cut it into a jacket. That's
cool. Did you have a tape recorder or something like that? I did.
I had a little it was a walkman, had a Walkman headphones.
And then I actually they they sold like a nerf like star Lord his gun,
and I bought it and spray painted it black. That's cool because it
was like yellow and orange. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, so
I spray pa it was cool. It was cool. That's super cool.
Yeah. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wanted
to. I just wanted to. Really, honestly, I was hoping to
get an embarrassing answer out of an hour. One time I dressed up as
thing one? No you wow? Who was two? Uh? It didn't
nobody, that's amazing. You ate your twin. No. So I had
hair about as long as I do now, and my mom is a hairdresser,
and she went and got blue dye and she spiked my hair up it
was about to hear and dyed it all blue. So I didn't wear a
wig or anything. I had pure blue hair dang ye and then ran around
in like a red onesie. That's kind of a how old were you?
Twenty one? First was first grade? First grade? That's that's honestly,
meg cute. Yeah. All right, Well, now that we're on the
subject of fun, I have a question. Were we ever off the subject?
Well, I was just gonna get right into it, but I kind
of like this better because it avoids the problem of running out of notes.
There you go, what's our what's our favorite like Halloween movie to watch around?
Oh, it doesn't have to be a scary movie. Okay, Well
here's the thing the audience might know. I talk about it all the time.
I don't like scary movies, but every year during October, that's when
I get it all out of my system. I get I'm like time it
is. Man, it feels like appropriate, like you know, it's starting
to get a little bit cold, that all the leaves are starting to die,
the trees are changing colors. It just feels like, Okay, I
need to watch Michael Myers like Stab of chick O g Halloween. Oh yeah,
okay, I watched that movie every single year in October. Do you
know what I think you should watch this year during Halloween season? Have you
ever seen the original Children of the Corn? Nope? Watch it? Okay,
bet it's not scary. No, yeah, it's just like a Stephen
King movie. Some of my favorites though, love Evil Dead so much.
That's scary. That's I mean, it's that you've just seen it enough times.
That's all it is. Maybe I don't know how scary older older like
horror movies do not scare me in the slightest. It's only when like we
started getting into the like two thousands, and then it was all just like
cheesy jump scares yas. That's not I don't I just can't do it.
I don't like it, Like it makes me feel like I'm having a heart
attack. But uh, I mean I love like the Shining I watch that
every year Nightmare before Christmas. Yeah, you got to watch Children in the
Corn bet I'll do. I'm pretty sure that Stephen King is it. I
could be totally wrong. I think probably. I'm not sorry. What about
you? What's like you? I don't know. I mean, like og
Halloween is is always like the best contender. But there's a couple of movies
that I really like watching around Halloween time and they are so strange. Like
have youll ever heard of Pumpkinhead. I don't pumpkin that. It's not a
good movie, but it's a great movie. You know, when you get
into the realm of horror, it's okay if it's not a good movie,
yeah, because yeah it's you know, it's like part of it. But
Pumpkinhead, that's a good one. I mean, I always love Friday the
thirteenth that that those movies are dope. I'm very much like I just like
the original ones, the first one, yes, whereas the mom Yeah,
I don't. I don't even like, I don't even know if I've seen
a lot of the sequels. I remember I saw h two. Oh the
Halloween one which was that Salloween Yeah, really bad. I never saw it.
It was really really bad. I don't think I saw any of the
Jason Vorhees sequels. I think maybe I watched Nightmare on ELM Street two maybe,
but I don't seconds weird. I just really like the original ones and
I'll watch those, like except for Evil Dead, Like I watch all the
Evil deads like, I love those. They're sick. What about you,
Alex, what's some of your favorite don't do this to me? Oh,
yeah, you don't watch anything. I don't, right, you don't,
And to be honest with you, like, I know what those movies are.
You've never seen any Pumpkinhead No? Uh, And I've seen them,
but like, I just don't. I don't watch them at Halloween. Like
I'm not a big Halloween person at all. Really No, I'm more like,
let's just get through Halloween and get to Thanksgiving. Wow. I mean
that's the truth. Ever since I was a kid, like Halloween is its
like pretty much always been my favorite. I mean I always loved Christmas.
It was super fun. But I mean, when you're a kid, candy
is everything, dude, Just beyond the candy, though, it's the atmosphere
is everywhere around you. That's true. It feels like you're in a fantasy
world. Yeah, everywhere you get to go up to strangers doors and demand
that they do not even just that, but like you go to businesses during
the month of October and it's all decorated, Like everywhere you go, it's
all around you. You know, everybody is celebrating in some way. Bro.
That's been so I'm like, you know, working with my brother now
cutting yards, I see like dozens every day of yards that are fully decorated
and how yeah crazy stuff. I mean some of it's like real creepy.
Yeah. So let me you don't know this. My new boss, he
uh, his family, He's got two daughters and his wife. All they
do is Halloween. She in the neighborhood. She is a queen of Halloween.
Really, and so the last couple of days at work, I've had
to powerwash their driveway to get ready for this tent, huge wedding tent that
they do a what's called like a walk through, like a haunted house thing,
a haunted house thing, and then you go up on the porch and
then and so he's also I've got to go over there on Halloween to get
painted like a zombie, just scared little kids. You're gonna do it,
Yeah, I might do it. His boss was like, bring everybody you
know, I need zombies. I might do it if we're free, I'm
gonna I'm gonna talk to anybody I might. I want to. That would
be so much fun. No, so he's got in his yard right now.
Not even Halloween just is just the prep. There's like six different fifteen
twenty foot tall werewolf, skeleton witch dude, like headless horsemen, and they
all like talk and move and stuff. That's crazy, Hey, wild little
teaser. Part of the reason that the myth of like were wolves and vampires
and things like that even exist today is tied to the origins of he Okay,
I'm ready to get into it. Yeah, let's get into it.
I'm ready, let's go. I got to recommend it Actually, I got
a few recommendations for the viewers on a stress that we are talking just like
Halloween classics. I'm not sitting here recommending like a list top notch horror films
or anything of that nature. I'm just saying great movies to watch around Halloween
time. Okay, first of all, it's not a movie Nick is gonna
obsessively agree with this one. Over the Garden Yeah, everybody's got to watch
Over the Garden Wall. It's a ten episode, eleven minutes apiece cartoon mini
series. It is very mysterious and mystical, and it's the like's Elijah Wood.
Yeah, the Fall vibes and like the Halloween vibes are just so potent.
It's amazing. What else were you? There is a cult classic Halloween
anthology. I think it's on Netflix. It's called Trick or Treat. It
is. It's not a very particularly scary movie. It's more like a intentionally
B list, campy horror film. Okay, cool, and it's about like
it's just about like the spirit of Halloween and like cool. You would see
it written as Sam Hayn, that's the original Gaelic holiday that we're going to
talk about. A lot. It's written like Sam Hayne, but has pronounced
some oun. The being is named that, and that's the name of the
entity that's like killing people or whatever. It's just a cool little movie.
He's Got a pumpkin Head, not to be confused with pumpkin Head, the
movie, which is about a witch that uh manifests a demon from a pumpkin
patch. It's this weird demonic entity with the head that looks like a pumpkin.
It's called pumpkin Head. It's great movie. Highly recommend pumpkin Head.
Okay, in your research, what's do you know? What's the deal with
pumpkins? Like, other than the fact that they I didn't see anything really
about. I think it's just about the harvest. I mean, we're gonna
get into that. But dude, like what you were saying, it's your
it's your favorite time of the year. I think October is definitely my favorite
month. Like, that's why me and Jenny chose to get married in October.
It's an awesome month, dude, Like I wanted to be married by
pumpkins. It's just it's cool. So let's get into it. Let's let's
let's get into the halloing stuff, because I actually do have a lot more
notes this time. Let's go like a lot just the entire history, and
there's probably so much more than I didn't fathom or didn't come across. So
I always thought that Halloween was a Celtic or Druidic holiday, but actually it's
far older than that, and it's believed by some archaeological evidence today that it
actually this tradition has existed for at least five thousand years in pre Celtic Gaelic
Ireland, which is crazy. And they have all these mounds and burial sites
where they have all these bodies dug up in mass graves. And we're going
to get into the why. So it's the Festival of sam Un on October
thirty first. Again it's spelled like sam Hayne. It symbolizes the descent of
the sun. So you know, you have the fall equinox, yeah,
and whatever that is September twenty second or first, or you know, depending
on the year, and then between September whenever the equinox is, and between
the winter solstice. I didn't actually look at the calendar and like verify this
for myself. It's just something I kept coming across and reading, and I
was like, sounds right to me. So between the fall equinox and between
the winter solstice, supposedly, October thirty first is the day that is equidistant
between those days where it goes from the equinox to then you have on October
thirty first, the sun begins this like rapid descent beneath the horizon and the
days begin to rapidly get darker. And I guess that makes sense because doesn't
time what is a spring? It jumps back in November right like right after
Halloween fall back, Yeah, right after Halloween. So October thirty first is
the day where we're equidistant between the equinox and the solstice. So the ancients
in ancient Gaelic Ireland, which you know, there's not even a lot known
about Gaelic culture today, like it's very mysterious, very It's very similar to
the mysticism of Egypt as well as the Druids too, but a lot of
them were wiped out and like their records are just like that pretty much.
Yeah, but yeah, so it's the the idea of this this festival that
was celebrated was most of it was about the descent of the sun, the
days are getting darker. And it's also this it's signifying the darkness over the
next six months of the year too, because in these ancient societies they had
these belief systems about how like the sun rules, its rain is in the
sky for six months, and then the darkness rules for six months. And
they believed because you know, the crops are beginning to die, the cold,
the dark is coming, the harvest is complete, farm season is over.
It's survival for the next six months until spring, you know. So
Gaelic Goddess of the harvest. Now listen, I may be ninety nine percent
English and Irish, but that does not mean that I know how to pronounce
this shit. Okay, you know, I just have to throw that out
there. Yeah, these this I'm telling you, the way they pronounce this
stuff, and then when you see it written, it is so different.
I've seen like, like Gaelic stuff very hard to pronounce, like a weird
the way it's spelled is. So I just want to clarify, I'm not
going to be pronouncing this stuff right, I'm just gonna say it like it's
written. Uh So, the Gaelic Goddess of the Harvest tail two tail tu
t a i l t i U dies of exhaustion from teaching people how to
harvest, so leading up to the salmon day where the sun is equidistant between
the equinox and the solstice. The myth in Gaelic Ireland is that the goddess
of the harvest dies from exhaustion from all this farm going on for you know,
six months. And then Luge the god of the sun. Let's see
what's going on with the god of the sun. He mourns her death.
He establishes a harvest festival in her honor. His wife Airyu is the queen
of the forest who rules the summer with him for the six months while the
sun rains in the sky through the spring. In the summer, whoa okay
Alatha the dark Femorian prince, which the Fomorians in Irish mythology were like this
dark race of demonic gods that were always at war with the Tuatha din On
which were like the Irish gods. So the dark prince Ilatha kills him.
He drives the spear through the sun while he's in his vulnerable state. So
the vulnerable state of Lug the sun god is when he is exiting from a
bath with one foot on a cauldron and the other foot on a ram.
The cauldron in the ram are symbolic of the summer. In the winter solstice,
you have Capricorn and the ram Capricorn, and then you have Cancer the
cauldron. I don't know why the cauldron represents, but the Sun is in
Cancer during the summer solstice and then Capricorn or in the winter solstice. So
having one foot on each symbolizes the Sun's temporal position, meaning time, the
temporal position between these astra astrological houses during the fall equinox in the winter solstice.
Okay, the sun got a slain. The knights begin to grow longer,
so the ancients are having this whole mythology about. Okay, Halloween is
when the darkness comes into rain. You know, this falls in the Dark
Prince, the Prince, the Dark Prince elopes with Luke's wife Airyu, symbolizing
the reign of darkness for the next six months. And then this is actually
a smite character. You might recommend that recognize this. Luke's son Ku Kulane.
Oh remember him, Yeah, we played him. Luke's son Ku Kulane.
He's later born in the winter through an immaculate conception. It can be
interpreted that he is also the human incarnation of Luke, just like who Jesus
Jesus. But this is way before we're seeing all these christ principles of the
Sun and the Son of the Sun, but also culture, because it's it's
the truth. It's it's the truth that we come from the divine and there
is a being or some sort of force that is born here that it's just
the story of its even mastery. That's all it is. But he's he's
reborn, and it symbolizes the rebirth of the Sun and the days growing longer.
So eventually Luke is reborn as cuck, which is the same as uh
Osiris being reborn as Horus. Or you got God in Jesus, or you
got uh Nimrod. And I'm not maybe i'll call there's no reason to call
Alex names right now. He didn't do anything. We already covered Nimrod.
Do you remember what that is. It's the it's the Babylonian version. Yeah.
And what's the Nimrod? That's the Christmas tree. Remember we did it
on the Christmas episode and another virgin birth it's in every myth evers. Yeah,
I think so is the human incarnation or like the sun. I'm not
sure if it's the other way around. I can't remember. We did it
a year ago, you know, but yeah, and then so okay,
during this time, the the Gaelic Irish people were fascinated with the astrology,
the stars. I mean, just like all the other wisdom traditions, you
know, they're looking at the stars. They're contemplating the mysteries of life and
death because all the crops dying and then they have to survive. How it
starts man for all these religions and cultures, and well, that's what you
did when you didn't have TV, right, I mean for being funny,
Well you don't have distractions and you can ponder big ideas like that. Well,
also like life back then, for the most part, I feel like
life was about survival, you know, like even when we were born in
the nineties, there's all this technology everywhere. We society for the last i
don't know, one hundred plus barely years has had this constant vision of the
future and technology and these advancements. But I feel like aon's ago, five
thousand years ago, they're not thinking about that. They're they're thinking about like
life and death. You know, they're looking at the next meal. Yeah,
like the way they think is different from the way we think. Now,
they're really thinking about this stuff like it's so real and it's so important,
and it's all they're looking at the sky every night, and they believe
that it's more than just stars. You know, they think it's gods and
beings and fairies and fairies come from Ireland. We're gonna rt into that,
and we got further into the future and further away from the truth that it
really is being's up there. Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I mean
you think about it once. Once your bellies full and all your chores are
done and all that stuff, what else is there to do? You're gonna
sit around and be like, okay, but what does all this mean?
Like what is all this about? Especially you're looking up in the sky and
and you know, their skies there's no light pollution anywhere. It's like a
freaking Renaissance painting or so, you know, they're they're like completely you know,
your mind goes crazy. You're trying to learn what all this stuff means.
Also yourself like driving and you're like, whoa, this is like real
life, Like what the heck of my I doing? How did I get
here? Yeah? Sometimes yeah, yeah, you get those existential Yeah.
And I mean I feel like especially with in like circles like we are in
where we think about ourselves very often as a soul rather than a person.
You know, it's sometimes you snap back into the person and you're like,
yeah, whoa, I forgot for a little bit. You know. It's
yeah, it's it's kind of weird. You know. What's wild to me
is think about people that don't think like that. Yeah, you know,
like you're telling the NPCs, right, yeah, for for lack of a
better yeah, like like more you know, I don't know. I don't
mean this in a rude way, but like more simple minded fault. It
is a thing with that subject, I think, is it is it what
you're saying? Is it simple? Or is it so far distracted? Yeah?
I mean it no, Yeah, no, can be true. Yeah,
that's a good point though, actually kind of go in tandem. Yeah.
No, it's it's crazy to ponder. So they're thinking about the transience
of life and death and the passage between worlds. Okay, they believed that
on the day of what we now call Halloween or sam Ouon, that the
veil between worlds was at its thinnest right, yes, and that spirits passed
freely back and forth between realms yea. And they believed I had something.
The veil between the spirit world and the physical world is thinner, okay.
Oh. Here it is the Tuatha deada Non, which were the Irish Gaelic
gods. It's also believed that they every year in the mythology, they waged
their final war against the Femorians, the dark demonic gods, and they win,
and that victory was achieved. So it's like there's also like these conflicting
themes of like it depends how far back in the ancient past you go.
Like over time during the Medieval Ages, Halloween or this tradition got scarier and
darker, more about witchcraft and black magic and sorcery because there was paranoia and
panic about religious themes in medieval Europe because of the rise of Catholicism and and
you know, the the inquisitions and conquesting all these countries and their pagans and
their pagans, you know, and it's there was this kind of like spiritual
paranoia that came up to the medieval times, but in the far ancient past
it was it was more like it was more like a c like Elda Delo
Smertos right in Mexico. Yes, it's it's it's like a celebration. Yeah.
Like they had these ancient burial mounds in Ireland, very tall hills,
and the archaeologists have found there's like hundreds or thousands of graves around these mounds.
And the Irish believed that the mounds or the hills were so special because
it's where the gods and the fairies lived. So on this day they would
return to these mounds. If there was you know, dead or dying,
they would bury them there. And they believed that they could burn offerings to
assist the spirits of the dead to cross through the veil and help them like
cross through to the other side on this day that is, or that they
would return to visit that is very similar to the day of the day.
Yeah. So it's believed that the laws of nature and the laws of nature
were suspended during this time and those supernatural feats were possible. The Celts,
the Druids, the Gaelics, Eventually the Celtics, which was Scotland, you
know, they caught onto this tradition. They believed that the passage between worlds
was possible. They believed that the gods had won the war. And I
already said that, I'm just catching up to my notes. The evil Femorians,
they beat them in this final battle. They achieved victory. They're purging
the demonic gods from Ireland on this day. They believed that the veil between
the physical and the spiritual worlds. I say they believed. I'm just reading
what I wrote, But what I really mean is archaeologist, you know,
historians, they find that this veil symbology that keeps, you know, occurring
through cultures comes through the bridal veil of Isis, the wife of Osiris.
Right, she's depicted as the veiled one. You know that. You know
Heleno Bovotsky, Yeah, one of her, one of her books is called
Isis Unveiled. She's just right, Yeah, She's just symbolized as this bridal
veil. She's the bride of the sun god. And you have similar themes.
And in Gaelic there's there's an idea that maybe there was some sort of
transmission of culture somehow between Egypt and Ireland. Definitely with the Druids, it's
like, not sure if it's proven, but there's so many similarities between their
spiritual systems, you know, and the way they believe things. So the
veil between the phys the physical and the spiritual worlds comes from the Egyptian goddess
Isis, the bride of the soular god of Cyrus. It's believed that the
mysteries and of creation and the mysteries of the universe lie beyond the veil between
the world. So the ancients were always contemplating this veil, trying to penetrate
its miss streets. So this day was so special because they believed it's the
day that anybody could penetrate, right, because everything's so thin because of the
position of the sun on the solstices and the equinoxes is like that halfway point
between the crossing of the sun. So they just thought, you know,
the veil has to be thinner. Yeah, and maybe there's something to it.
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I always like there's got
to be something to it. I was gonna mention, like, I feel
like, ever since I was a little kid. Something about Halloween feels different,
like kind of similar to Christmas. How Like there's this like very specific
feeling. It's almost like the air is different. Same tradition, like you
stay up all night, you leave candy corn out, and then the Great
Pumpkin comes down the chimney and leaves you tricks and treats. What that doesn't
happen in your house? No, but it's likest my head. I can't
believe y'all don't know about that. I really, for like a good second
there, I was like, is he being for real right now? Pumpkinhead
Man? Right, pumpkinhead I love that movie. It's it's like an eighties
you mention that. Yeah, it's good, dude. You mentioned I saw
that when I was like twelve and a minute. Charlie Brown and the Great
Grape Pumpkin. That's my movie. It's a good one. That's a good
one. That's a really good shout out. My cousin Lee, who has
been on the show Smith. That was one of his favorite. We used
to watch that together. Awesome, he was. He loved The Great Pumpkin.
Honestly, that's another one that like you gotta watch every year. Yeah,
you gotta watch. That's a good one. It is. It's such
a cozy, cozy Okay, Ryan, back to what you're saying, do
you think that the veil is actually thinner or do you think that it's one
of those like egregorical everybody thinks the veil is thinner, so it actually is.
Kind of no, It's like, I don't know that. How could
I know? Right, Like, I don't know that the veil is thinner
on Halloween than any of the day. I just believe that if there is
such a veil, which there is, If there is such a veil,
I believe that it's always being affected by these astrological lot like today's an eclipse.
The gotta be something going on with that. You know, there's a
reason that the Aztecs were sacrificing thousands of people a day under solar eclipses,
right, there's a reason for this. We in modern times may not know
secret societies, and you know a lot of these mystery schools know, but
there's a reason they did this, and they observed the celestial bodies the eclipses,
and I think there's something to it, and I know that people at
NASA. I know this because of some of our contacts through you know,
knowing government officials and being persons of interest of the you know, the department
events all that stuff. I know that when they do certain rocket launches,
they observe socitices and equinoxes and do weird rituals facing cardinal directions when they launch
rockets, like something that they do in private, which is wild. I
mean, yeah, there's something to it. I just I don't know.
I get the hunch though, that it's for real, you know. Now,
the intermission tells me if there's a day where the veil is thinnest,
it has to be Easter because of the mythology behind that, and also like,
uh, the majority of Dad's major experiences with the Lady happened on Easter.
So my mind is just like they're they're m there's something special about all
of these holidays obviously, you know. Sure, Yeah, there's a reason
that there's also you notice that they're the major holidays we celebrate are at the
different seasons. Yeah, there's a reason for that. Yeah, it's what
they came to the astrological alignments, right, yeah, all sure, Now
I think it's possible that like all of those major holidays that are around like
alignments and stuff like that. It could like the veil could be thin on
all of them, and like maybe in some cultures they thought that it was
thinner at certain times than others. But I feel like that's probably exactly why
they do these rituals on these holidays and these I mean, that's why these
holidays exist in the first place, because they fall in these alignments. I
think. I think it's all got to do with the veil being thin.
Yeah, I mean I can see why they think that about this holiday though,
because we're talking several thousand years ago. They're all, you know,
for all of time back then, they're watching everything die every year, Like
there's got to be some meaning to you know, the mystery of life.
All the crops die at the same time together, you know, like the
I don't know, right, there's definitely something to that. So the Celtic
goddess of Winter kyl Leak, that's a very hard one to kaylileoh, I
think that's perfect. Is a parallel to isis Her name actually means or is
translated to mean the veiled one. Wow. So she saves Lug, the
sun god, the god you know, the god of the sun. Who
what does she do? She also saved us IRUs m hm that she saves
Lug as an infant and rules in partnership with Brigid, the goddess of the
bring, assuming her role in some ooon, which is the holiday it was
the original name holiday in psalm Un until Beltane, which is the holiday of
May, like you know, like the May Queen, the bonfires of maytcha,
that's not something we celebrate America. Right over in Europe, that's that's
like a big holidays in May. These two deities are interpreted by historians and
scholars to be like two aspects of the same deity. But like one of
them rules in the spring. In the summer, one of them rules got
us a winter in the night, in the darkness. But it's like the
same entity rising and setting with the seasons. Salm Un is the equal point
between the fall equinox and the winter solstice. According I'm just didn't I didn't
count the days, you know what I mean. The four solar holidays marked
the midpoint between the seasons, still celebrated today in their Indo European forms.
We've got Easter, Christmas, Halloween, and what would be the one we're
missing here, spring fall, summer Thanksgiving? Would that be it, right,
I don't know. I don't know. It could just be Beltane and
we just don't celebrate it here in America. The fourth of July, all
right, that's what I'm talking about. That was a different kind of So
again, this this some ouon by historians and scholars that they speculate that this
is a pre Celtic Gaelic holiday that's been celebrated for five thousand years plus.
It's based on their ancient Mounads sites. We talked a little bit about that.
They believed that the barrier mountains were the portals to the spirit world.
On some oon so like on this day, they believed that a spiritual portal
was awakened so the spirits could roam between the worlds, and the burial mounds
were the portals. Yes. Also, fun fact, this is totally random,
but the name Bledsoe actually literally translates to mean a hill or a wow
And it's weird when you think about it, right, because we're going to
get into this a little bit later, but they believed that also what lived
in these mounds are the fairies. To the Irish fairies or gods. But
if you think about popular UFO lore, there's a whole subculture of like spiritual
consciousness angle UFO researchers who are like, they're like the fay from Irish folklore.
The fairies. Yeah, but it's believed that they come from the hills
or the mounds, and that the hill brings people closer to the fairies.
Well yeah, we even talked about it on the Angels episode. Yeah.
Yeah, it's just another you know, another culture's depiction of it, right,
same thing. So, Diana Pasolka, who wrote the book American Cosmics,
she's she's in my dad's book. I'm not sure if she published this.
I've never read her book, but she told my dad that part of
her research before she was seriously involved with like meeting a lot of these UFO
players, like years back, she actually went to Ireland as part of her
research, and she was investigating like ancient cave sites and found depictions and like
ancient like several thousand year old drawings from Gaelic Irish ancients of light beings coming
down and creating humanity. Like, so oh, but you said she hasn't
like I don't know, I haven't. I don't have, but I don't
know if she I wonder if there are photos. I don't know. But
there's something about the whole Irish thing and the UFO thing and the fairies and
the light beings. Well it seems like, I mean, we've talked about
it. Seems like so many cultures have their version, right, right,
that's true, that's true. Yeah, But I'm finding the Irish connection crazy
because and it's probably just because I recently found out through the twenty three and
me thing that I'm Irish. My mind is like paying attention to that right
now, whereas before I never cared, you know what I mean. So
it's like, oh, this is cool, this is cool, and I'm
seeing all these details and I'm clicking in my brain. But so where was
that here? Closer to the spirit world? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
okay. They believe the barrier mounds burial mounds autocorrected the barrier. The
burial mounds or portals to the spirit world. They were places of extreme spiritual
potency, so the elevations of the mounds, according to the ancient Irish folk,
believed that they were closer to the spirit world because they're higher They were
also believed to be the mounds where the places of the al she or.
They are the people of the fairy mounds. They're like the fairies, they're
bright spirits of nature. At these locations, the ancient Gaelics put great emphasis
on assisting the dead's transition into the spirit world. Also, the Anglo Saxons
reverred to referred to November as Blood Month. They offered crops and animals sacrifice
to gods in exchange for the harvest, because you know, the harvest is
that's why you have all this like scythe symbolism with Saturn and the harvest.
Yeah, all the crops are dying in the fault. It's like death is
coming to harvest the crops. It's similar symbolism in defiance of the cold ark
in the gloom. They would hold these several like oftentimes like seven day festivals,
and like kings, like back then, the kings of Ireland, whatever
region they're from, I suppose they would hold these massive feasts and they would
have these massive bonfires. Also believed that the word bonfire etymologically stems from bone
fire because of sacrificial rituals at these festivals. They would have massive bonfires and
well, I'm not sure about human but definitely animals. They would throw in
animals and crops because they're thinking it's like an equivalent exchange, like we throw
in animals and crops and then the spirits of nature are gonna bless us with
more more. So they would have massive fires with just animal bones everywhere.
Bone fire, bone fires, that's where it comes from. That's cool.
Yeah, and there's evidence of there's like archaeological evidence of like massive bonfire pits
at these mounds, sacred mounds in Ireland. So it's it's it's crazy how
you know, the archaeology meets with the mythology too. But let's see they
put let me catch up to where I was. I don't have my glasses
on two, they held these feasts. Oh, it's also the end of
farming season, so they're celebrating they've harvested all their food and now they're gonna,
you know, they have to survive through the rest of the cold.
They believed that the fairies or the bright nature spirits also held festivals in the
spirit world simultaneously. They were celebrating on earth below that the gods and the
spirits are celebrating as well in the realms above. They wore masks during these
festivals because they believed that the thinning of the veil not only affected the realms
of physical and spirit, but also affected the realms of the conscious and the
subconscious. So they believed that wearing the mask would allow their subconscious shadow side
to come out. So at some point in history they would have festivals similar
to like Bachanalia, where they would just do like the craziest stuff imaginable,
Like they would have orgies and like just they're letting their shadow room free.
You know. It's I want to think about that for a second, because
like I'm sure you do. You put on a mask, right, any
mask, and you just start acting different, you know what I mean,
Yeah, it's still yourself, but it's like no one knows who I am,
you know what I'm curious about. I wonder if that's where the jacket
lantern came from. I wonder if that was the kind of masks that they
would wear. Cut a face in a freaking pumpkin, put it on their
head. I don't know if. Surprisingly enough, I didn't look into jacket
lanterns at all. I wish I did but I wonder if about pumpkins or
anything. I wonder if that's what it was. I thought you'd know more
about pumpkin lid into it, Yeah, look into it. Do like a
good pumpkinhead, I know, but there's a there's a good one actually in
the twenty eighteen version of Halloween, there's a good pumpkinhead. Oh yeah.
It cuts the dude's head off and then he like I guess he like takes
his brain out or no, then he puts candles in his eyes like a
Jack o' lantern. But I'm pretty sure they copied that right from the movie
Terrifier. But it doesn't matter because it's awesome both times, because it does
also happen in Terrifier. Do not recommend that movie for the Faint of Heart's
extreme movie? Yeah, series, that's the first movie I watched as an
adult, like a horror film that I was like, I feel like,
very uncomfortable. It's a very very dreadful glory film about a demonic clown named
Art. But anyway, moving on from that, yeah, it's like I
don't agree with this, you know, I think it's pretty clear in modern
times to see like, you know, right, from wrong, Like,
but I could see where they're coming from. In ancient times, they believed
that that one day of the year where the veil was thinner, where they
could let their shadow side room free and just do whatever they want, similar
to how they did in like Dianic and rituals. Yeah, they believed that
it was like a purging of the negativity. Yeah, I mean, dude,
we're talking about thousand years exactly. Yeah, they thought it's a completely
different world. But you know, it's like, you know, imagine going
to like an eyes wide, shut mask party and then you gotta, you
know, go home to your wife the next day. It's pretty weird.
It's not it's not good for you. Sure, it's not recommended, but
they did believe that way. So according to Halloween Costumes dot Com Credible Credible,
jack O'Lantern origin comes from Ireland as well. So according to the Irish
folklore, there was a man sentenced to roam the earth for the rest of
eternity. This man was called Jack o Lantern and he was thought to be
a ghostly figure that walked around with a coal burning inside of a carved turnip
to light the way. The story goes that a man named Stingy Jack decided
to invite the devil to have a drink and then strict him into shape,
shifting into a coin to pay with. When the devil agreed, Jack decided
that he wanted the coin for different reasons and kept it in his pocket next
to a silver cross to keep the coin from returning to its original form.
Dang, that's crazy, Berry, You know what, I just had the
craziest thought. We should eventually do an episode on like Faustian type stuff.
Are you familiar with that? You know, the old story of like meeting
the devil at the crossroads and making a deal. That's how old German writer
named goh It. I don't know how to pronounce it that well, but
it's like g o E t h e. He's like one of the most
famous classical writers in all of German history. Like I remember walking around Frankfurt
the first time I was there and seeing a statue in his honor. He's
like, he's a classic writer and he came up with Faust. It's the
It's the story of Faust goes to the woods. He's at a crossroads and
he makes a deal with the devil. That's where it all comes from.
It's wow, that's sick German folklore. But that could be a cool episode,
Yeah, something like that, something about folk tales. I don't know,
Yeah, it could be cool. Did he ever come across a boy
with a fiddle? I don't know. I love that. It's amazing.
That was like my favorite song to play on guitar Hero three. You know
that the main fiddle guy in that band is from like right around here,
Charlie Daniels, or is Charlie Daniels, he's the lead. I didn't you
know he's from Leland. Yeah, yes, that's wild, dude. My
dad took me to where he grew up. That's cool, dude. He
grew up on a swamp, like literally like in a swamp or maybe was
it Leland or Bergall because Bergall literally means swamp. I don't remember if where
specifically it was. I remember being little and because my dad was always really
into Charlie Daniels band, and he took me there. We were like on
a road trip or something, and we were passing by and he was like,
I'm gonna take you to Charlie daniels old house. That's awesome. Yeah,
yeah, well, I have good news where we're only about halfway through
our notes here. Oh cool, so we're doing pretty well. Not Valentine's
Day. I made sure we weren't gonna run out this time, Okay,
So moving on. They let their shat aside run free. That's where the
masks and the costumes come from. They would hold these large ritual bondfires or
bone fires, and they would burn the sacrificial offerings because they believed that the
immolation or the burning of a sacrificial altering offering on an altar would transport the
offering to the spiritual realms. And if you look at a lot of like
these ancient mystery traditions, a lot of times the divine or the creator of
the cosmosis seen as like a flame or a fire, you know, like
the fire of the Holy. Yeah, it was just believed that through the
fire it would be transmitted to the spirit world. So again there's all this
evidence of you know, the bonfires around the mounds. So over time it
became more associated, like I said earlier, because with fear and darkness,
because of paranoia, with the rise of Christianity, it started picking up more
themes of like black magic, evil, spirits. They believed that on the
eve of October thirty first, So again this is probably more so the medieval
era, which is only like a thousand plus years ago. You know,
we're past ancient Gaelic history for the moment. They believed that supernatural creatures would
roam through the veil on the eve of October thirty first, so I guess
October thirtieth, like the night before, Yeah, when the veil is increasing
in its potency. They believed that these demonic creatures would come through, and
they would pierce through from the dark void, and they would roam the land,
haunting churchyards, farms and crossroads. In Ireland, it was called again
I do not know how to pronounce this, but it was called oich shamhana
or a goblin knight, goblin night, goblin knight. The spirits are roaming
to land in search of victims to haunt and possess, is what they believed.
Travelers would carry a hazel stick or a black shafted knife, used them
as protection charms. They would have protection charms in their house a lot of
time. It's like a five pointed star because actually, you know, pre
Satanic Panic and modern Christianity times. The five point of star pointed up right
actually is believed to be protection from evil. Whoa, you know, this
is my tailisman. It protects me from the horseman. What are you?
What's happening? I have no idea. I don't understand the reference. Like
what was that uh from the movie with the headless horseman? Take about like
sleepy yeah, yeah, and the guy that is one of the characters in
the movie, and he's like everybody's dying around him and he's in the middle
of the road. He goes, he's clutching across this is my talent,
that's deep. It protects me from the horseman. And then the horseman comes
up behind him and just wop. So the charms didn't work. It was
proved in the Johnny Depp movie. That was the Johnny Depp movie, right,
that's the version. Yeah, I've actually me and Olivia we laugh about
that, so I say that all. It's been a long time since I
saw that one. I've never seen that one. It's great. I need
to watch it. I said that like Tony the Tiger, but it really
it really is. I saw a dude, dude. They had the like
the funniest some people. This stuff that was still relevant in Mexico, honestly,
was was so amazing to see. I didn't I've never talked about Mexico
yet. I mean, I know this isn't the episode, but it was
our first time recording since getting back from Mexico, right yeah, oh yeah,
We'll have to talk about that in one of the next episodes. But
dude, the stuff that was relevant there was wild, like years oh beyond.
I saw a guy walking around with like a polo shirt with Tony the
Tiger on it. I'm telling you, bro, like it is a different
realm. It was magic. It was like it was it was like a
shamanic retreat for me in a decade and he just had like a polo shirt
with Tony. I loved it. It was all kinds of stuff like that
little Wooden Marionette puppets of like Woody and Bart Simpson and Captain America and like
it was. It was amazing. I loved it. In a future episode,
I'll talk about Mexico. Yeah, awesome. So they would carry the
charms, okay, so they believed that a Blacks spirit bore would stalk the
ritual bonfires and attack the last person to leave. Wow. Yeah, right.
They would dress up in costumes of eventually that idea of the costumes morphed,
you know, the masks and all that because they believed it's like the
evil spirits that coming through are tricking them, so they would wear the costumes
and the masks to deceive and prank the evil spirits. So it's like trick
or treat, you know, like the trick being We're going to prank the
evil spirits. We're gonna fight fire with fire because they're trying to deceive us
with lies and deception, so we're going to throw it back at them as
like a magical ritual, right, So they would wear masks and costumes and
they would dance around the ritual bonfires on this night with all their charms and
sacrifices. So that's where trick or treat comes from. And the North Shetland
Isles it was known as hallow Mass, which is the night that trolls would
come out of the wilderness and steal livestock and crops. So in certain parts
of England it was known as witch Leyden where people would walk around the foothills
in the dark of night with lit candles. If the dark or if the
candle went out, that meant that there was a witch nearby and they were
going to be attacked with curses or hexes w So the okay, So I
wanted to talk about like how symbols are used. They're like very complex,
Like symbolism is so important as many P Hall said. Check it out firebook
right here, The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall.
It is a phenomenal book. It is one of the most like it's about
seven hundred pages with the addition I have, and like it covers. I
just opened it to a random page. The orphic mysteries, flip through on
the sphinx, the back, it can die and icy in rights. It
has almost every the Holy Spirit, like anything you can think of that's esoteric,
the towel cross, the Egyptian town, the crux in Sada, the
unk just covers everything you think of Persian magic, Babylonian, Chaldean reptiles.
I reptiles, Yeah right, I didn't even read what about isis the version
of the world? Anyway. My point is, Manley P. Hall,
is, if you look at the history of the transmission of occult text throughout
all time even until now, like up to the twentieth century. Manley P.
Hall is one of those names where when you get into this subject,
he's one of those Titanic legendary names that everyone's like, you got to check
him out, you gotta check him out, you got to check them out.
And he was so knowledgeable in the mysteries of the occult and the esoteric
that he was actually gifted in honorary thirty through third thirty. Talked about that,
Jeff Harmon, Yes, it was gifted in honorary thirty third degree initiation
into the Freemasons, and then he had a mysterious death. So it's like
who knows. But my point is one of his most famous quotes is symbolism.
Can you look this quote up for me, because I don't know what
word for word, but it's I know the gist of it. Just just
type like Manly P. Hall quote symbolism language. It's like, it's like
symbolism is the language of the unconscious mind or there's something to that effect.
But you got to be pretty cool for your parents to name you Manly.
Yeah, you know what I mean. I don't know if uh tell me
if I'm on here. This is the first thing that popped up. Symbolism
is the language of the mysteries by symbols men have ever sought to communicate to
each other those thoughts which transcend the limitations of language. That's it. No,
that's it. That's it. Wow, And that's what I want to
talk about. How a lot of these symbols that have existed throughout all the
ages of time, they have meanings that are far more complex then we have
the bandwidth of like linguistic capabilities to describe into fab them. So like when
you look at a five pointed star, or you look at a cross,
or you look at I don't know, an on or I mean any symbol
you can think of, metatrons, cute, whatever, any any sacred,
geometric, esoteric symbol. You look at it and it evokes feelings and images
and complex thoughts and emotions that go beyond what you can just describe. Right.
That's He's that quote is so eleg describes. It's like it's like symbols,
you know, like there's there's there's there's a ritual magic type stuff for
ceremonial magic where it's like you know, drawing certain symbols to connect to the
geometry of the lines and the shapes and the angles, and like trying to
become in a trance like state and feel the energy, you know, like
getting a square in a compass and drawing out certain patterns, Like there's an
actual belief that there is an energy in the math and the numbers of the
symbols, Like there's some sort of divine energy that comes from a realm that's
beyond the physical world. You know. It's like there's something too, there's
something complex about symbols that is beyond what we can fathom. That's that's the
point, you know. The compass is part of the Mason logo exactly in
the square. Yeah, And you know, if you think about it,
like there's only so far you can go with like rudimentary spoken or written language.
The brain, the human mind is so much bigger than even what we
can create as a written or spoken language, Like we can't we can't communicate
everything to one another. There are certain things that are just too big for
us to even communicate. And symbolic or metaphorical where the abstract, yeah,
I think, you know, symbolism is like a portal into the spiritual world
of the abstract. Yeah, there are things that just can't be rationalized.
They just can't because they're formless. Yeah, rationality is like low key,
like kind of invented by humanity. Like if you think about it, like,
you know, sure things kind of work in this realm, they kind
of work together or whatever, but in the realm above us, like we
have no clue how any of it works. But we're getting these like these
like little drops and these little things from that realm that we can only describe
with symbols. Yeah, because that's how it appears to us. Right,
We're in this this silly, little rudimentary meat body, you know, right,
Right, So I say all that to say that traditionally, because of
you know, the symbolism thing, Traditionally, night has been associated with evil
because of the paranoia with the rise of the Christianity in the medieval ages.
That you get all the symbolism of witches and speaky demons and spirits in the
night. But it's like, you know, symbols don't have to have an
evil meaning. I think that anything that exists in nature, even death,
is not inherently evil, right, It's inherently natural. Yes, it's inherently
a part of the process of creation. Yeah, you know, so like
over time it became associated with the color black and the color orange, the
bond, the fires of the night, the I mean, I guess you
could say pumpkins, but I really imagine it because of the darkness of night
and the fires burning into the night. So we have these themes of black
and orange of Halloween, which eventually became you know, witches and demons and
spooks and goblins and you know, and and and you know, in the
Shetland ailes are thinking goblins are taking their crops, and it morphed into this
dark thing, you know. But like before that, it was more like
just assisting the spirits into the next realm. You know. Yeah, that's
my whole point. It's like, there's this association to the symbolism, but
there might be something more natural behind it. That's that's not understood anymore in
modern times. You know. Yeah, no, absolutely, And who knows,
bruh, we didn't live a couple thousand years ago. Maybe there was
goblins, he did, but there was gnomes. Bro tiktokk videos on the
TikTok I felt like Danny McBride show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, dude, if they if they have a whole like history
like that can be observed where they're carrying around specific knives to hoard off goblins.
Yeah, maybe there were goblins. Wait, y'all don't have a Goblin
knife. I do not. I don't have it on me. Yeah,
you got a good shall at Goblin Well, I mean yeah, I just
don't. I don't keep it on me. I definitely want a Goblin Knight.
I definitely want one. Yeah, Goblin knife on Goblin Knight. Just
my my personal reflection on everything here so far is basically like your personal reflection
is in Ryan's classes. Yeah, his angelic. I'm about to hit him
with the light beam. Sorry, what were you guys? Say? No,
So it's like the vailis thin. Do with at what you will,
right. You've got some people who are like, oh, I'm going to
use this to communicate with my passed away relatives and like usher them into the
next life. And then you got other people that are like the goblins exactly.
Overtime and overtime it became this ridiculous thing, you know, it's it's
crazy, and now we just walk around getting candy from our neighbors. So
where the goblins take due? Yeah, we're the spirits. We're the goblins.
We are the spirits with the masks and the costumes and coming to steal
the crops in the livestock, the candy, corn and the fruits. All
year you spent your hard earned money and then the goblins just came and took
it. Yeah, they're making sacrifices to us. Yes. Well, I
like how we're saying us, like we still go trigger treating, but we
don't. I'm almost thirty, Like we don't do that, you know,
thirty? Yeah I am thirty now. Yeah we did do that for a
while. But why can't I go trick or treating? Bro, I might
go scare the tricker treats as a zombie. I'm really considering it, but
I don't know if I feel good about scaring kids. I don't know.
I'm part of Halloween. Yeah. It also you got to remember, anybody
who's going through that thing is literally paying to go through it, or does
he charge people? No, No, it's just like, well they are
choosing to go through. Yeah. I just don't know if I want to
be responsible for like traumatizing some kid. No, no, you know,
now, if it's a child, just stay still. That's true. I
mean, I'd be the friendly zombie. You got to pick and choose.
But me, though, I love scaring kids. You gotta go as mudra
man zombie, I thought. Dude, I honestly thought about just showing up
as mudra man just to troll his boss. I wouldn't do that. Don't
worry. I would not do that. You're like, all right, put
the making up for me, for your safety. I don't care. He's
the mudra ma's the zombie. So, speaking back to the symbolism thing over
time, the creatures of the now night, like the owls, the toads,
the reptiles, the cats. They were associated in the medieval era as
the wizards, the witches. Familiar. Yeah, you know, just just
through association because they they roam around in the night, so they have to
be a part of the darkness. Well. Also there was another thing that
culture, like basically, you know, older women who lived alone, if
they were widowed or whatever, like, they would usually feed cats around their
area. They would have cats. That's kind of how like the quote unquote
crazy cat Lady things started. But like thousands or maybe hundreds of years ago,
rather like people thought they were witches. Look at all cats hanging out
around them, Like, what, she must be a witch. She stays
in her house all day with all those freaking cats, and like, you
know, that's that's where a lot of that stuff came from too. It's
interesting, it's pretty wild. They would have these rituals where they would throw
torches in the bonfire, making them brighter and hotter, and they would say,
brave bone, fire, burn to keep the fairies away. Why did
you keep him away? Remember? Over time it became more like in fear
of the spirits and the tricks, they're like stigmatized it like between thousands of
years of where it started and then where it was in the Middle Ages with
all the witchcraft and stuff, it became more like, okay, now we
want to keep spirits away. It's like it's like Middle Age Satanic panic kind
of the Medievay. Actually just like actually it's just been that since Catholicism has
existed pretty much pretty much. Yeah, it's what yield. There you go.
It was borderline satanic panic for an entire age of two thousand years.
What do you really think about it. No, yeah, it's that's kind
of crazy. I think we're like finally starting to get out of it.
Yeah, it feels that way at least, I think so like people are
chilling down a little. Well, some people, well you know, mooder
Man's been Yeah, you've been putting in work. You've been putting it.
Word bro and Slippy. Yes, I mean, of course flying around by
our angel, he guides me, following him. Yeah, he's Navve.
You know, I played as Slippy when I was a kid because my big
brothers would be like Fox or Falco. I like playing Slippy was peppy.
I like Peppy to like, but Slippy was my guy. I love Slippy.
I always did hat where's your hat? At it fell and I didn't
feel like I'll get it. Hang on, you don't got to do that.
So we're actually almost at the end of our notes here pretty much.
So the night is the embodiment of the mysteries of the unconscious mind and nature
on the metaphysical level. So, like I believe when you look at symbolism
for what it really is, it's like you know, night, darkness,
death, cold, It's it's not evil, but it's symbolic of the subconscious
or the lower realm of the invisible or the hidden or the formless void.
You know, it's like that doesn't at the highest level that it's not evil,
it's just a part of nature. Yeah, yeah, I mean there
are cultures the great macrocosm. There are cultures that look view death as evil,
you know, right, yeah, it's not. It's just I believe
in the scheme of the great macrocosmic, you know, existence of everything in
the infinite, like they're there, there's there's no there's no evil in the
natural order of the universe. I believe that like we here on this level
are the ones creating evil, but like in reality, you know, it's
it's coming from it's like it's coming from mankind. But then the ones in
power are spiritually convincing us that you know, it's you don't think there are
any sort of like evil or dark energies out there like that are beyond human
in the great cosmic scale. No, I think it's like manifestations in the
realm of thought from us. I don't. I don't think there's a devil.
I just don't. Oh yeah, I think I think that there are
parasitic thought forms and negative spirits that exist because of the human race having lived
here for so many thousands of years that we create like an Yeah, I
think it's more like that, like it's on the our level. But dude,
like you zoom out and you look at the great scale of everything,
like it's you know, it's like you look fifty trillion light years away and
it's just like stars are bumping into each other and exploding. Like it's not
evil, it's just it's it's just nature is created and then it dies,
and then it's created again and then it dies. Like it's I don't I
don't think that evil is created by the divine, you know, I think
we see it. It's interesting because you know, like if you get kind
of philosophical about it, you know, we're created by the divine. Yeah,
and but we're created in its image. We're like lesser gods, you
know, because we have that spark, right that animals don't have. Yeah,
it's I don't know. I don't know. That's something that I like
to ponder about because like I I don't know, man, there's because there
are some things that you can observe in nature that feel a little wrong,
like feel pretty like there are there are certain animals that will like straight up
like kill and torture other animals for like sport, like you know what I
mean. There are things on smaller scales that that are nature and not involved
with humanity that are like that's true, that's kind of that's kind of crazy,
like a praying mantis eating the head of its mate, like you know,
yeah, likes female spiders. Yeah, there's some stuff. I don't
know. It seems like it seems like in a lot of ancient cultures they
always describe a dark shadow like entity or yeah, that's true. I just
I don't know, like where I'm at, Like, I don't I don't
believe that there truly is a force that in the great scheme of things that
actually can oppose the light. Well, no, it's not, it's not
that could it could oppose it maybe, but it is. It's like counter
there's something that it's yin and yang. It's you know, there's always an
an well, for lack of a better term, and equal opposite. It
may not literally be equal, but also dude, like what if that darkness
existed as a part of this realm? Because you know, it's like you
know, the snake that eats the rat, or the locusts that swarm the
crops, like they're as above so below. Yeah, if it exists in
this realm, it has to exist in the other realm. It has to
But also like it's a part of the process of life and death, you
know what I mean. Like, I don't think that animals are just like
you know, maybe super smart animals like chimpanzees or certain birds or elephants,
can you know, get revenge on you and you can hold grudges and things
like that. But like I don't know, Like I just I don't think
of nature in terms of evil. I think of it in terms of natural
you know, like it's neutral and like we put the meaning on it because
of ours since activity to life and death. Like it's it's just this great
process that we don't understand. That's just my take on it. Sure there
is evil, Yeah, I see what you're saying. From the Wisdom tradition
mythology, it's like there was the great cosmic mind. You know, there's
God, the original true God, and then from that manifested the feminine,
the Mother, who then created the physical which is the realm that we existed.
But it's like birth is painful, right, Like, what's the first
thing that happens in human birth? You come out and you're crying. It's
agony. It's you're choking to breathe and your senses are disoriented, and you
have no knowledge in you're screaming. Crying is the first thing you ever do.
It's like the separation from the divine into the realm is it's like a
test, you know. It's like we come here to grow to be more
spiritual and like on the cosmic level of intelligence. I don't know if any
of that makes sense. No, I definitely see what you're saying. It's
int't I've never thought about it from that lens before of there not being like
some cosmic reflection of the spirit of evil, because you know, we talk
about as above so below. If it exists here, it exists there.
That that kind of reflection thing. I've never thought about the possibility that that
counterpart, that shadow counterpart, came from this realm exclusively and didn't exist anywhere
else. The gnostic myth, the gnostic myth, which I'm not saying this
is truth. I'm just saying it's one version of the story. The gnostic
myth is like you know, again there's that original mind, the logos,
God, the true all or the infinite, and then from it came Sophia,
which you could say is the lady or the mother. And then from
her came the Demiurge, which is like the the manipulator of this realm.
You know, like there is a force, there is a dark force,
right, but I'm just saying it's like it's on our level. Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like it's the realm. I mean, it
goes, it's the realm. It goes right along with like this is hell
kind of thing. You know. I think it's the exactly. That's what
I'm trying to get at. Like I think it is the realm. Okay,
we come here and it's supposed to be hard. It's supposed to be
tough because it's like the pain of growing into it. We're separated from the
divine and now we have to grow on our own, which is a painful
project. Bro. Middle school sucked, right, Like you get through these
growing pains of puberty, you know, you have all these problems and you
get to high school. That really sucks. You know, growing up sucks.
Like, really, when you think about it, it's fun, it's
awesome, but it also sucks at the same time. It's tough. Sure,
it's the mirror of growing into the the spiritual intellig'll explain it it was,
but like the process of human life is a mirror image of the divine
in creation. It's like that's the as above, so below it's it's a
Really that's an super interesting way of looking at it. That's cool. I
want to think about that more. Like I think I think the Devil is
not some force out there that's stalking us, like we've been made to believe
by the Catholic Empire, but I think in reality, it exists inside every
one of us, because we have the light and the shadow yin Yang we
are both. We human beings are Lucifer and Christ or we are God and
the Devil, and like it's up to us and our free will to choose
a light. Yeah. You know, it's like that old Native American myth.
You have the two wolves inside of you, and it's like they're fighting
for your soul, and like whichever one you feed is the one that you
know wins wins. Yeah, that's that's how I see it, you know,
like there is a force, but I don't think there's a devil.
Yeah, I definitely don't think there's a devil. Yeah there's something. Yeah.
But anyway, so that was that was a really fun tangent. So
the Night the Knights, the embodiment of the mysteries of the unconscious mind and
nature. On the metaphysical level and the far distant ancient past, it was
considered a time some oon or Halloween. It was considered a time of positive
contemplation and assistance of the dead and their passage between the worlds. Exactly similar
to eldadlo smaritos. They're having like tequila and ofrindas and you know, all
this food and cakes and pastries and candy to their dead, and they're partying
with them and they're there in their mind. It's like they're coming back to
visit us. It was like that. In the ancient past. Divination was
heavily practiced, even by the least mystical, because they believed that the entities
of the spirit world, good and bad, were all closer during this day.
So like even your ordinary non spiritual pre Celtic, Gaelic, Irish dude
or or you know whoever five thousand years ago, it was like, Okay,
today's the day to start throwing bones and seeing if I could get an
answer from the spirits. Today is my day. Yeah, that was the
day. So and that's that's basically it. So happy Halloween. You wrap
that up? Whoa, I got whiplashed from that. So happy Halloween.
Damn got it? Okay, hell yeah son, you really just cut us
off. I mean you know, that's that's all I got. You dropped
the mic on us. Just uh, just gone like a vapor man,
just like puff a smoke in a bone like a vapor. Yeah, dude,
just out here throwing bones around. Yeah. Listen, kids, check
your candy for razor blades always, Yeah, dude, they could. I
was so scared of that as a kid. I uh, I basically used
the minimum amount of time from when the candy touched my bag before it got
into my mouth, so like I never even had time to consider if there
was razor blades in it. It was. I already ate it. It
was gone, dude. Do you remember. Also, like, in addition
to the razor blade thing, they had us hyped up as kids that also
like all the gang shootouts and murderings were going on during Hell Yeah, like
it was so scary, like watch your bag. Even my parents would be
like, you gotta be careful on Halloween. That's when the crazies come out
and come with you. It's like, what, there's just a bunch of
kids walking around the neighborhood getting candy. It's that. Yeah, I never
saw anything paranoia exactly. It's it's it's just that there's always just there's paranoia.
There's always paranoia about danger and evil. Yeah, Happy Halloween, Happy
Halloween, Bye guys, Bye Pumpkinhead. Check it. Weird things happen in
the backyard of whatsoe house. Shit, it's so weird coming closer to it,
like smiraling on the inside of it. No one knows discome for I
ever did. Sighed and happy