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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome
to another episode of Geek Verst Podcast.

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I am the ant House Taylor Field
and I'm joined by I'm the Stormchaser Combatser.

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Yes, I judging by our nicknames. If you're familiar unfamiliar. We

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are here to retro the Twister movie
with Bill Paxton. It's going to be

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delightful. Becus is in celebration of
the Twisters movie that's going to be coming

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out this week actually, and me
and Kirk are going to be deep diving

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into a review for that, So
you want to check out our feeds because

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that'll be coming to a feed near
you. Additionally, we have some closing

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finales this week as well. We
have the Acolyte season finale where we're going

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to be reviewing. We have The
Boys season four finale that we're going to

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be reviewing, and then Game of
Thrones Every Sorry House a Dragon every Sunday

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that we are reviewing as well.
We just dropped episode five and what else

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do we got cook and a lot
of retrospectives. We have Alien retrospective popping

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off on our Patreon in lieu of
lebration, not in lieu of in celebration

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of Alien Romulus, which comes out
in August. We have the X Men

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Wolverine retros that have been popping off
on our Patreon as well. In celebration

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for Deadpool and Wolverine. We also
did Deadpool retros as well that you can

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get on our feeds. What else
is there that's dropping in terms of X

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Men, we also did the Logan
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brought Kyle Smid back from the Hibernation. Me Travis and him recorded X Men

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Apocalypse. That was wasn't Future Days
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was dark Phoenix was the dark nobody
thought it was. Yeah, go check

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out that episode because Travis definitely got
him good live where we we might have

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well, we told him right,
We told him to watch the right movie,

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but then as soon as we got
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on a different movie and his reaction
was just priceless. So yeah, go

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check that out. That was lots
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amazing. Yeah. So with all
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the retro content. And if you
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folks here, Aaron Braden, April
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updated? Travis has just been popping
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Hey you are a lucky talk.
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You're on that list. You guys
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Thank you for supporting the Patreon everything
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There's one more thing I needed to
shout out. That's geek First Day.

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Oh my goodness, Yes, her
Day is coming out this August.

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If I could remember the actual day, I would I would say it is

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that the ninth or something like that. It's the first, the first,

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the third, third, fourth,
the third, fourth Okay yeah, just

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the third third is Saturday, Okay, your first? Yeah, August long

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weekend. Uh, and it's gonna
be a good time. We're gonna be

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streaming for a long freaking time.
And then all the new uh patrons that

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we get and subscriptions and all that, we're gonna be bumping up our time.

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There's gonna be trivia. It's gonna
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gonna be Geek versus. We got
the whole roster coming in, and there's

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gonna be a gold Geeks twenty twelve
Golden Geeks. Yeah, that'll be juicy.

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And then we got another wrestling match
that I gotta do apparently against my

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will. So lots of fun stuff, lots of fun stuff. But I

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think that is it. So without
further ado, Uh correctly, what's what's

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your history with Twister here? Twister? Yeah, it's funny. I always

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thought this movie was called Twisters for
some reason my mind, and then not

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until you know, now we're leaning
up to Twisters the sequel, which I

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imagine there'd be more than one Tornado
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h yeah, it's it's it's funny. This movie. I don't know if

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it was like a main rotation in
my house, but I think my dad

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really loved this movie. So we
had it like on VHS and I've definitely

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would, just because we don't have
unlimited VHS, as you would tend to

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rewatch some of the ones that you've
actually owned. So A Twister was one

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of them where I I don't know
what age I saw it at, probably

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pretty young. It's funny this actually
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in nineteen ninety six, So nice
tie there, I guess. I guess.

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I think in hindsight, I saw
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than I than I than it actually
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I don't think i've seen it since
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like a random like on TV type
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back half or something. But yeah, I remember really really loving this movie

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just just for like what the Twister
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fortunately we don't really get well we
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here living in the valley where we're
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of the shire where we live in
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natural disasters other than forest fires which
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just the idea of what it is, just like a powerful mother nature type

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of event just always blew my mind
as a wee young lad. And yeah,

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I think I really just liked the
whole cowboy type feel what this movie

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is, right, Like these these
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scientists, but like they especially the
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like thrill seekers, it seems.
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of what these movies were. I
really like the side characters. Philip Seymour

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Hoffman his character, you know,
rest in peace to him. But his

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character in this is just such a
different role then, like I've I think

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I've seen him play like in anything
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or sorry, he was a very
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he had a lot of depth of
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lot of different realms. I feel
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the more dramatic or maybe more villainy
type roles. But to see him in

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this is just such a different,
like twist not intended that then I'm used

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to seeing from him, And I
really loved his character in this. It

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was really entertaining. And you've seen
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okay, like this is the same
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That's hilarious because he's like the private
investigator, right and then he like

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falls in love with her or am
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that's that's the camera Diaz one Ohong
came Polly Ben. Yeah, Ben

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like what a shart was a good
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But yeah, no, Like watching
this now in anticipation for Twisters, I'm

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really glad that we did do this
retro because I feel like it did a

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couple of things where like I I
I, like I had already mentioned I

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remember this movie being a little bit
different than what it actually is in my

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mind, Like I don't know,
I don't know if I remember them like

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actually battling these tornadoes or like like
something along those lines. I just thought

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it was like a lot crazier of
a plot than what it actually is.

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Like it it it really is a
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these people like chase tornadoes, but
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get this one device in this one
tornado or like, yeah, it's so

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like there's not much more than that. There's some character stuff between the guys

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like ex wife, I guess,
and and his new fiance that he's that

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he like the reason why he even
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to get his his ex wife to
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it, Like he's not there to
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Obviously, that is the route it
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it, the like the new fiance
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this this ex So just like for
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the beginning, I feel like it's
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that route. I guess maybe just
along the way he finds out that they're

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not super compatible. But hopefully you
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but like without a tornado being the
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I'm really glad that we did watch
this too, because I feel like it

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it'll really set my expectations going into
Twisters, where now it's like, Okay,

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this is just people like scientific is
trying to get a device or something

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like in front of these storm tracers, just just tackling these twisters, and

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I nothing much more than that is
really what's going on. And I'm hoping

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for just some nice visuals and some
fun action sequences in the new film and

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like just set my bar of expectations
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watched that for that reason going into
the new one. But yeah, this

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is still like a really solid movie
for me. I think it It is

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a little cheesy at certain parts,
maybe some dialogue with some of the just

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the crazy characters, but like this
is a nineties film. I think what

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they're able to do with you know, it's it's late nineties, so like

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the CGI isn't that bad compared to
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But I think they use it sparingly
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authentic of a threat with a big
twister. And yeah, I don't know,

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Like I don't think this is by
any means my favorite movie. Maybe

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watching it now I like it less
than I would have as a kid,

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but it's still still really fun,
still fun time. I like the cast

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that's in it, Helen Hunt,
which is Bill Paxson's ex wife and this

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I think she's really good. She's
really just like trying to break him up,

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though, Like the entire time,
as as soon as Bill Paxson arrives

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with his new fiance, just seems
like Helen Hunt is just thirsty for the

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packs man and just really trying to
wedge between the new lady and him.

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But yeah, I don't think I
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Like this movie is less less complicated
than I remember it being in hindsight,

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And it's funny you were mentioning earlier
you were trying to find a night

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thumbnail and like the pictures just were
not good at all, and I'm looking

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at like the poster for it and
it's hilarious. It's just kind of like

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a silhouette of a twister, Like
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It's really like fuzzy, sort of
pixelated, and like the slogan is just

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don't breathe, don't look back,
Twister the Dark Side of Nature, Like

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it feels like Darth Vader's coming to
like fucking kill these people, but it's

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really just a tornado. Not trying
to downplay what a tornado is I know

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it, you know, negatively affects
tons of people every year. But yeah,

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no, I really really love this. I don't know if I love

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it, but I think the fact
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increases my overall enjoyment for the film. Yeah yeah, well said I wish

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I could remember the first time I
saw this movie, but I remember,

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uh, the ending absolutely terrifying me, when our two main characters are running

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away from the big the big one, and they had to like hunker down

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and just the thing went over them, and it's just, oh, it

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absolutely terrified me. And then there's
other scenes too where everything is calm and

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they're the drive in theater playing and
everything's just chill and it's just super quiet,

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and it just it appears and it's
just destroying. And that there's so

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many different things in this movie that
it frightens me. And when I give

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this movie credit as a credit for
being is it's just to my knowledge.

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Maybe there's something before it, but
this is really one of the first of

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its kinds where it's like a Jaws. You know, no Shark movie,

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no matter what you do, is
really going to ever top that original Jaws

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movie. That's just the be all, end all and anything else after that

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just it lacks that certain spark to
it. And I feel like we've had

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Geostorm and twenty twelve and all of
these different supernatural disaster films, and this

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one just while the CGI was questionable
at some times, it definitely just stands

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on its own and it's it's a
really uh iconic film. I'd say,

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it's like it's a classic. And
I completely went over my head that Michael

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Creichton actually worked on I believe the
screenplay. Is that what I read here

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or it was sorry it was written
actually yeah, written by Michael Crichton and

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Ann Marie Martin. So Michael Crichton's
Jassic Park's Jassic Park. Yeah yeah,

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so very very cool stuff. And
this makes sense, I feel, because

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like the Twister feels like a monster
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that that doesn't make sense. Yeah, And Michael Crichton has always been good

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at kind of diving into the things
that humanity kind of indulges in and the

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dangers of nature and science, and
so this this movie is that, like

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you said, it's very simple.
It's them just trying to pop a little

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science machine into the tornado and then
they can get all these new scientific readings

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and whatnot. And the fact that
they just go into the tornado so many

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times just blows my mind. But
there's so many there's a few scenes here

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I'm excited to talk about with you, but I think it's it's a it's

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a really really fun movie to watch. The characters are really really interesting and

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flamboyant, and there's certain settings that
piece is that they get into, which

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like this is just such a crazy
thing, but it fits for that time

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period, I guess, And there's
something comforting about in old eighty nineties movie.

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I'd say even probably seventies. But
for me and Madison, we've really

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kind of been on this bandwagon for
those older flicks or something just calm and

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nostalgic about it. Even if it's
chaotic and you know, tornadoes everywhere,

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there's still something that's just got a
good vibe to it. So this is

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definitely one of my top tier Bill
Paxton movies, up there with Aliens and

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Predator two. So I'm just I
guess Terminator. So it's nice to see

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Bill Paxton back on screen and I
can see that, you know, Glenn

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well definitely more cowboyish. I feel
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seen before this movie is what Glenn
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makes sense. But he's all retired
and goes retired. Yeah, it goes

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to the city. But yeah,
there's there's just there's good humor in this

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movie, and it's just it's it's
a lot of fun. Absolutely and shout

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out to I never know how to
say his last name, Carrie Louise,

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Louis Eluise. Basically the not the
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like the other stormchaser kind of guy
that like stealing his design. He

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plays like a good kind of like
prick, asshole type character. And it's

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kind of funny. How like by
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it happened, like in hindsight,
but like they end up kind of working

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together to just you know, like
I I'm pretty sure he helps him out

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too. I can't remember how it
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him and and and get some advice
and information from him, and then they

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kind of work together to for the
better of science, right, Like it's

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not even like they defeat the tornado. It's literally just to measure it because

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up until this point they don't have
instruments to really track the twisters, which

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is funny like nowadays because we just
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it was twenty eight years ago when
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time of this movie, I don't
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yet. But according to the movie, people like these characters Bill Paxton,

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this is the first time that we
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it works. And it's kind of
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that, right, like obviously they
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it's not like this will be the
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are doing as opposed to just thrill
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But yeah, the technology seems to
be the same from what they are showing

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in the trailer for the new one
to this one, like they got to

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get close, this little tank will
open up and all these things will go

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into it into the tornado, And
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they trying to dissipate the tornado with
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Kind of kind of an effect on
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it wouldn't be causing damage. But
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is that they want to increase the
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higher, and so doing this scientific
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Now, Carrie's character, fuck,
he's uh, he's He's an interesting antagonist

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throughout this this film, but man, I was not expecting his Like,

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he really fucked I guess we're getting
into where the meat and potatoes out,

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but he really fucks his team over. You know, if you're if you're

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driving this car and you got an
equivalent professional industry professional screaming into the radio

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like turn this around, turning around, it's gonna turn and hit you.

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Are you turning around? Are you
just gonna listen to your boss? I'm

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probably sure. And that guy,
man, he gets a terrible I mean,

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like less than a minute after that, right, Yeah, takes him

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out alone. Couldn't have taken out
Carrie next to him, No, it

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takes out the fucking driver. That's
like, maybe we should listen to a

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man I don't know about this.
Yeah, that's final destination level, that's

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what he got. Christ Where do
you where do you want to start though?

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On this movie? You have a
certain character, a certain scene.

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I mean yeah, like the opening
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remember this at all, where it's
it's Helen Hunt's character as a child,

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and then uh, you know,
tornado comes in really really scary for the

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family. I did not understand the
dad's like gold Land, just just hold

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the fucking door shut, like if
he's not just where his family are,

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even if the door gets yanked open, Like, aren't they just fine?

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Because clearly like the daughter and the
mom didn't get pulled out of the door.

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He's just holding I can't hold it
any longer. And then what do

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you he does? He keeps holding
onto it and then it just takes him

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and the door away, just fucking
out of there, and I just I

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just burst out laughing. I'm like, man, that like what an opening

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to this movie? Like talk about
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and just the tornado in general.
So I guess I get the motivation for

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her to wanna, you know,
stop that and build some technology to prevent

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that from happening. But yeah,
that'd probably scar me for life. Just

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see my dad slurped away by a
tornado. Yeah, that scene that cracks

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me up. And again I get
it, like the limited warning that they

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have, but even on the TV, like they're mentioning a storm is coming

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in, and I just I felt
like once the storm actually landed, they

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took their time to get out.
But again, I'm not in those scenarios.

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I don't know. They were trying
to recreate as best they could.

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I'm sure so, I mean,
they got the dog in, so that

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was good. But yeah, the
dad's plan just they went further down into

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that bay Smith's cellar, they would
have all been fine, like the rest

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of the family was. But yeah, he's holding on that door is absolutely

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shit. Maybe he could have thrown
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it, but I guess this is
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mean a lot. The next time
it's scene is with Helen Hunt's character in

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present day right, because I think
it was like a Cat five or something

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like that. They were calling it. It was it was the big one.

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number of it. And then of

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course it's a bigger one like later
on in the film. I think it's

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bigger. It's it's equivalent if not
bigger. Yeah, but yeah, wild

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opening to the movie and like it's
something too where I feel like, like,

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correct me if I'm wrong, But
I feel like we don't really like

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with Helen Hunt's character. I just
pulling up right now, doctor Joe hardin

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that Oh yeah, so there you
go. She's got the same last name

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as Bill Harden, still still whole
of that name, not actually divorced,

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there's they're still married. I guess
by the while, she doesn't really like

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call back to that sequence a lot
of the time, she doesn't feel like

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a really like sad character. She's
pretty joyful, happy, go lu like

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you for the most part. So
it like it especially like I don't know,

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I feel like our main character is
definitely Bill Paxton for for this whole

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ride. It's like his technology,
right, that is the one that uh,

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I guess it's like prototype design.
Yeah, but Dorothy, yeah,

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Dorothy, there you go, and
they they ended up building it and then

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he was, of course super pumped
on, and Helen Hunt's character just just

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just saw it through floorician, whereas
Bill Paxson just moved the city the tie

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to like the opening, I feel
like just wasn't called back to that much

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for for how like show talking and
visceral of an experience that would be for

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her main character. But I don't
know, like they're they're clearly passionate,

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passionate about it, and if she's
affected in that sense, it would make

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sense why she would, you know, make it like her life's work to

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keep going in that. But I
also didn't really understand why Bill Paxton like

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didn't stick with it. I guess
he was just not in love with Helen

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Hunt anymore, like why he moved
to the city. He was just kind

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of done with that life. But
as soon as he comes back, he's

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just in love with it again.
Like he's super jacked and jazz by the

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thrill. Yeah, I know he
is. I think that their their relationship

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is interesting, and I think the
dynamic of him just being addicted to this

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thrill of the Hunt is it gets
you going too, because I think as

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he's kind of going back and being
reimmersed into it and learning like, oh,

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they developed the technology. It's great
for the audience because you start to

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like you get hyped up with him
as he's getting hyped up and like getting

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back in touch with this thrill of
uh tornado chasing. You said something else,

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and I had a thought that I
wanted to to mention, Oh,

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my goodness, Paxton escaping in the
city no prototype. Oh yeah, okay,

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Helen her character Now you mentioned she
hadn't she had a lot of trauma

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at the start of the movie,
but they didn't follow up or touch upon

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it really throughout the rest of the
film. And you're totally right with that.

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The only instances I felt like we
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that is when you'd see a tornado
and she'd stand there, like five feet

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away from it. It's like,
oh, there you are, like just

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taking it in, and then she'd
run away. So that's that's kind of

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like the only dose of I guess, facing her free fears, confronting them

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that I kind of pick up upon
since I was a little kid. But

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other than that, yeah, like
there's there's really nothing, which is kind

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of shocking considering like your dad just
got fucking sucked out of this doorway when

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you're a little girl. Pretty scary
shit. Absolutely, uh so yeah we

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we you know that happens. And
then we follow Bill Paxton, and like

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this was something that kind of just
surprised me and I did not remember at

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all. It was just like how
Bill Paxton like gets on this adventure,

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Like he literally is just coming with
his wife to his his his ex wife

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I guess, or his technically they're
still married, so yeah, technically still

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married, and then his fiance is
with him, and then and then he's

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trying to get the divorce papers written
and Ellen Hunt is just like not signing

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these papers at all, and like
I just feel like if I'm in that

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position, it's just like just fucking
sign the papers and let me get the

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hell out of here, and that
yeah, oh no, yeah, I'll

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get to it, you know,
like do I gotta do it right now?

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Like she's just like clearly still wanting
to be married to this guy.

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And I think that was something that
wasn't really easy for me to buy and

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and and go along with it.
Like Bill Paxson is just like he's just

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over this life and and her and
and like maybe like the pairing with Melissa

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was her name like his his his
now his new fiance, Like what why

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he would have chosen her over that? Like it just it just seemed like,

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Okay, this is the situation and
that's the start of the movie,

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and then we're just gonna go with
that, and it's just kind of weak,

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like the actual explanation of what was
going on there for me at least.

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And Melissa was kind of a funny
character to have on these adventures because

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she's just so out of her elements. She's getting really shook up on all

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these events, like when I think
they have like a near miss with one

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of the tornadoes and like they're all
like super jacked up and pumped, and

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she's like, I gotta get out
of here. I'm so done. She's

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just like totally freaking out how I
would be if I was in that situation,

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Like gosh, you could die at
any moment if that tornado gets too

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close to you. But it was
just kind of a funny variable to have

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with them. And then I mean
by the end of the movie, which

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how long is this like a couple
of days. If that's it's at least

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it's gotta be. They will go
through like two nights, three nights,

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so it's a it's at least a
long weekend. Yeah. And then by

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the end of that he's back with
his his ex wife and just well I

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guess they're married. So he's just
back with his wife now they're they're married

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still. And then his his fiance
who I imagine they were like living together

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in the city. Like, does
he go back to collect his stuff and

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it's really weird, or like does
he just never go back he just finds

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wipes his hands clean. Yeah,
Like it's just all of that logistics I

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just found pretty funny. But and
then yeah, she's like a therapist I

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think is her role. Yes,
but uh yeah, I don't know,

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it's maybe a little bit of a
weaker part of the movie overall. It's

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like, I think I would have
been totally okay if like they didn't have

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that complexity of the relationships. Maybe
maybe it's just a very able to throw

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into there, because this movie is
pretty basic with so a bit of a

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factor there, and Melissa keeps getting
paired up with Dusty Philip Seymour Hoffman's character,

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and uh, yeah, he's just
he's just uh, he's just a

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good time every time he's on screen. I'm again of my thoughts after this

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that break and I'm back, so
uh, I couldn't agree more. I

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think that this is definitely probably the
weaker thing, and I think that it's

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kind of shoehorned in there just for
the sake of we need a romantic dynamic.

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You you can probably I don't want
to say this because this comes off

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as negative. You can probably only
do so much with the thrill of the

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chase, and in between all these
tornado sequences, you need to have some

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other kind of dilemma with our characters, something kind of moving the story forward.

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And so I feel like, Okay, we'll do a weird love triangle

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and just kind of see how this
unfolds. And yeah, Melissa, I

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think it was funny seeing Melissa with
with Hoffman's character and just seeing her thrown

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into the situation that's just life and
death. Like the first time that Bill

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pass Helen hud go into that first
tornado and Alan Hunt's truck just gets fucking

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nuked and they're hiding under the wooden
Bridge and the thing passes and like Melissa

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runs at them like, oh my
god, are you okay? And there's

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like yeah, we're fine, we're
cool. Let's go follow it again or

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something like that, like just super
nonchalant about it. That made me laugh.

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But I think the fact that their
relationship was not this strong. He

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clearly didn't like being a weather man. He took offense to that when Carrie

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el was would insult him. So
yeah, I think that not a strong

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relationship. But yeah, he's back
with his wife. So there you go,

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Joe Harding, there you go.
The other thing that kind of surprised

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like a lot of side characters with
our almost like a band of misfits,

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like all like the crew members and
everything, and I feel like, yeah,

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like we mentioned Philip Seymour Hoffman,
there's a lot of people in this

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crew that, like I wouldn't like
I recognized them. Like one of them

405
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:07,599
was Alan Ruck from Ferris Beeler's Day
Off. He was, oh, yeah,

406
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,240
you're right. Yeah, Like there
was just like a couple of names

407
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:17,240
that I that I've seen places,
not like a lot. The one character

408
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,279
Jeremy Davis who he played Lawrence in
it, like I think I've only seen

409
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:25,119
that guy and Lost, so it
was kind of funny to see him like

410
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,599
pop up in here. And I
guess that would have been around that time.

411
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,359
I think Lost is like late nineties, maybe early two thousands, So

412
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,319
it was just kind of funny seeing
these familiar faces pop up, even though

413
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:41,640
they're not like big main lead stars, but you know, recognizable enough to

414
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,440
kind of fill the the merry band
of misfits here. And yeah, it

415
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:51,200
was a fun gang like when they
were at the aunt's house, just just

416
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:56,200
eating up there, her food and
just the whole vibe of what the aunt

417
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,720
was. She seemed like a really
nice lady. That food just looks so

418
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,839
freaking good. I'd love to eat
there. But Melissa wasn't having it.

419
00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:07,519
She didn't look impressed. No,
no, and I wouldn't be either.

420
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:10,200
I'd been like, just fucking sign
these papers and let's go back to the

421
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,319
city. I'm so done with this
ship. We're about to die. Every

422
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:17,720
two minutes, your your fiance is
showering in this fucking random lady's house.

423
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,000
Yeah, and like every bump that
he has with Helen Hunt, it's just

424
00:30:22,039 --> 00:30:26,880
like, oh like like like they're
reigniting the spark like if I'm yeah,

425
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,400
if I'm Melissa, like I'm just
like this, like, let's get the

426
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,200
fuck out of here. This is
so awful. I'm losing my man every

427
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000
two minutes. And by the end
of it too, she she was a

428
00:30:36,039 --> 00:30:37,319
told shamp She's like, yeah,
no, you you be with her.

429
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,960
This is your life, Like no, that's great, and she's like not

430
00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:45,119
mad at all. It's just like
this, this is this is the hill

431
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,200
yourself and fucking go ahead. Peez
uh. I was quite surprised when they

432
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,640
did this, this curve, all
of the Ant's house being destroyed. But

433
00:30:53,799 --> 00:30:56,920
the set piece, I don't know
if you've seen, like the set that

434
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,839
they built for it's pretty cool how
they built this no storted house and they

435
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,519
had like it's like sideway stairs and
like Bill Paxton, he just has to

436
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,160
run down these sideway stairs that they
built and everything is pretty pretty cool set

437
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,960
piece. But I'm glad that they
answervived. I'm glad that the dog survived.

438
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,519
But it was that's just one of
the most terrifying moments of the movie.

439
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,880
When it's like I said, quiet, it hits the drive in theater

440
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640
and then they find out, Oh
my god, it hit the little town

441
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,599
community and they go there and like
it's all just ravaged. Yeah, that

442
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,279
sequence when I think it's at the
movie theater, when it's like all like

443
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:33,599
pitch black, and then like I
can't remember, it's like lightning or something

444
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160
lights up the sky, something happens
and then you just kind of see it.

445
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,759
And that is probably like the most
memorable, the most memorable visual that

446
00:31:41,799 --> 00:31:45,319
I have from this movie. Like
I remember seeing that as a young kid,

447
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,359
and just like I don't know,
it's like a monster movie type sequence

448
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,680
where it's just like pure quiet,
and I don't know how quiet a tornado

449
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:59,279
really is. Again, like I've
never really been. I mean, I'm

450
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,319
fortunate enough to not have I've been
running from a tornado. But I imagine

451
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:06,799
they'd be pretty loud. It's like
wind is fucking loud. Let alone when

452
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:14,039
they're whipping giant you know, house
pieces and cars and cows and fucking Ellen

453
00:32:14,119 --> 00:32:16,839
Hunt's dad around in the sky.
Like I imagine they get pretty damn loud.

454
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,559
But I just love them, like
looking out and then all of a

455
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:24,000
sudden it's lit up and like it's
just massive, like it's so huge,

456
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:29,440
and like it looks so close because
it is just so huge and yeah,

457
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,160
just a really really well done scene
and definitely the most memorable one that I

458
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,519
that I had as a kid,
even even more so than like the cow

459
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:45,319
sequence when they're driving another cow.
I think it's the same one. Yeah,

460
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,480
what else do we have? We
had that oil tanker scene too,

461
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,480
right, they're just like whipped out
of the They're like, oh my god,

462
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:55,200
and you see this oil tanker,
this big semi tar out of the

463
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,119
tornado and they're like, oh,
guys, did you see that explosion?

464
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,039
Like, yeah, yeah, we
did. It's funny because it's like how

465
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:07,319
much crazy you're gonna twister? Get
right? Like it's it's really just I

466
00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:13,200
guess the objects that it's that it's
swinging around and what other? Yeah,

467
00:33:13,319 --> 00:33:17,200
yeah, exactly Sharknado. So that's
another thing, like going into the second

468
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,599
one, like how are they going
to step up right like that? What's

469
00:33:22,599 --> 00:33:25,240
already been done? Other than we'll
get into it and then got to start

470
00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:35,319
shooting. You can kind a flow
invisible tornado. Yeah, that would be

471
00:33:35,359 --> 00:33:39,240
the winner. Probably. I can't
see it it all, but yeah,

472
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:43,359
I kind of lost my train thought
there. I don't know where that's okay,

473
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,559
just how they like amp it up
right, I guess, like yeah,

474
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:52,119
exactly, mm hmmmm. It's funny
because it is just such an eat

475
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,759
like a simple idea of a movie. I feel like I don't have too

476
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:58,759
much to really break down more than
like a certain sequences. Like it seems

477
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,440
like there's a lot of times where
hell and Hunt is like she's like,

478
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:06,119
especially in the early stages. I
think there's two moments where she's willing to

479
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,719
like, yeah, we just got
like we need like ten more seconds and

480
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:12,519
then we'll we'll like we'll be fine, like like we'll literally be mission accomplished.

481
00:34:12,519 --> 00:34:15,719
And then Bill Paxson's like it's not
worth it, and it feels like

482
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,559
they fuck around for the same amount
of time that it would have taken if

483
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:21,039
he had just let her like do
what she was trying to do, and

484
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:24,400
then they just like completely lose the
vehicle or whatever the object is that they're

485
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,800
trying to do, and I,
you know, like it's reasonable for him

486
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,800
to be worried and like it like
it's not worth it. It's definitely not

487
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:37,679
worth it, like your life for
the science, but it seems like by

488
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,920
the end they end up kind of
risking it anyways, for the science.

489
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:49,280
So uh yeah, I think the
first No, probably I think the second

490
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,559
instance, when they like park the
car and she's and it's like coming towards

491
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,840
them, that's when they hide.
I think behind the bridge or sorry,

492
00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:00,280
underneath the bridge when the tornado comes
through. Is that the first one because

493
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,719
they were in like a cornfield.
Maybe that was the last one. Okay,

494
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,559
Yeah, it's it's been a week
now since I've seen this movie,

495
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,519
so it's, uh, it's plenty
together. Plus I've been watching a lot

496
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,599
right now. But yeah, I
think you're right. I think it's the

497
00:35:10,639 --> 00:35:15,840
first time, and I don't know, I felt like she she could have

498
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,039
got it. It is definitely stressful
if that thing's coming right for you and

499
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:22,480
you know you're like trying to do
it perfect and you're all shaky because it's

500
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:25,280
your life's on the line there.
But I felt like in that moment,

501
00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:28,719
like, oh man, just let
her do it. She's so close.

502
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,599
She's gonna get it. But she
probably would have flew in like her dad

503
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:34,880
did. Oh yeah, I went
out like him. That whole scene of

504
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,280
them, that that first encounter,
they just drove into that narrow ditch.

505
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,719
I guess it was like a dried
up river and that's when they I guess

506
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,280
they hit the bridge right, so
they couldn't go any further. They couldn't

507
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,800
even drive out. Yeah, why
would you get yourself in that situation?

508
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:52,440
Why would you commit to a narrow
corner yoursel? Yeah, exactly so,

509
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,840
But that definitely sets the tone where
they're hiding underneath that bridge and the tornado

510
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,840
passes over them, and I mean
the last one is only in ten times

511
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,480
infinitely bigger, but just as scary
though, But you're right, there's there's

512
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:12,880
there's not much really to necessarily continue
and expand on a breakdown because it is

513
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,159
it's at its core, it's a
very simple movie, but it's it's a

514
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:19,440
good time. And the characters they're
all quirky and wacky, and the story

515
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:22,960
is just, uh yeah, let's
chase the tornado before the other team does

516
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:27,400
that. Copyed our designs and pop
in the the technology and we're good to

517
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,360
go. They went through I think
three Dorothy's and the fourth one was the

518
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,880
last one they had, and the
kicker, that's the one that successfully worked.

519
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:44,840
Yeah, and what was I gonna
say? The uh yeah, I

520
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,119
think what you said there where it's
like this movie is just like a good

521
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:52,880
time with the energy and like the
cast and crew about it, and you

522
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,800
know, like it's it's it's not
the most complex story with like a super

523
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,159
in depth antagonist, Like the antagonist
is just now natural mother nature event,

524
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:07,360
and uh I think that, like
it's it's important to set your expectations somewhere

525
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,840
around that bar going into Twisters,
because like when when I first heard Twisters

526
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,079
was coming out, it's like,
ah, I don't know, I don't

527
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:15,079
know if I have to see that
again, Like I like, I have

528
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:21,760
the nostalgia of the first movie,
but there's not enough. Uh Like like

529
00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:23,880
yeah, I have nostalgia for the
movie, but it was no means like

530
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,039
my favorite movie as a kid.
So I thought it was kind of weird

531
00:37:29,039 --> 00:37:30,920
that they were doing another one until
I saw the trailer and then of course

532
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,119
seeing this again, it's just like, yeah, this is just gonna be

533
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:37,480
a good time movie with some some
good fun sequences, some some fun characters

534
00:37:37,519 --> 00:37:40,840
on screen, and uh yeah,
that's what I'm hoping to get out of

535
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,159
it. And I definitely think it'll
it'll meet there because it because it isn't

536
00:37:45,199 --> 00:37:47,880
too complicated. I think it's kind
of a hard one. To fuck up.

537
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:52,079
Maybe if they try to do too
much. They you know that the

538
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,840
tornadoes can camouflage. They're cloning tornadoes, starting to do some drastic world things.

539
00:37:57,599 --> 00:38:04,800
They have a counch. Yeah,
they're breeding, They're fuck. Uh

540
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,199
Well, let's see. You got
anything else to add? What what would

541
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,320
you rate this movie? I don't
have anything else to add, And am

542
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,079
I reading for this movie. I
think I'm gonna give it a good eight

543
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:20,039
out of ten. I think I
think that's that's pretty gam solid. It's

544
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:24,360
nothing too too out there in the
negative or positive direction. It's just a

545
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,280
good time. Maybe I was thinking
like a seven and seven and a half.

546
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,039
But the nostalgia for it, especially
like that sequence of of like the

547
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:37,280
nighttime when when it lights up and
then you see the tornado there is just

548
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:43,679
it's a really really great visual and
just showing like how vulnerable really people are

549
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,719
and just powerless, like like if
that thing's there, it doesn't matter if

550
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,760
you have Dorothy or Dorothy and her
cousin, like like you were fucked.

551
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,639
There's no way that you're able to
get out of that. Right. So

552
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,519
yeah, I'm I'm happy I don't
live in an area that uh that gets

553
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:02,559
Tornado. I know probably a lot
of our listeners are so stay safe out

554
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,920
there, Stay safe. I could
not agree more. I'm gonna give it

555
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,440
an eight out ten as well.
I think that's a really really well rounded

556
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,960
off score for this kind of a
movie. It's it's just such a it's

557
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,039
a good time, and this is
one that I could easily see myself rewatching,

558
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:22,119
not three times a year, but
oh once a year, maybe twice.

559
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,559
It's just it's a lot of fun
and it has me super stoked on

560
00:39:24,599 --> 00:39:28,320
what this new one is going to
bring to the table. And just the

561
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,960
CGI alone being so much more improved, and seeing just some crazy, crazy

562
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,599
stuff that that pops off in this
film. It's just gonna be a good

563
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:40,280
time. I look forward to it
and the cast as well, getting to

564
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,000
know what kind of tie ins and
connections we have to this universe and our

565
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,400
old Twister group as well. I'm
sure we'll get some references and some names

566
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,960
Joe Harding, Bill Harding and all
that kind of stuff. But yeah,

567
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:58,320
Ibe, her dad will land by
the time of Twist. Oh yeah,

568
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:04,119
still in there. Still Lady Lands
with his door, Still hold on with

569
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,679
his door. Yeah, he'll be
looking like this after that the wind blew

570
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:15,360
his hair right, all yeah,
all right, Well, ladies and gentlemen,

571
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,960
thank you for tuning into this episode
of Keeepers Podcast. We'll be back,

572
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:24,480
I guess yeah whatever, doing our
next biggest, funnest new thing.

573
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:29,760
So until then, we'll see you
in the search bar. Have a good

574
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:30,480
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