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All Right, so we've got we've
had a busy show so far today.

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That's going to continue to be the
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But we've got a backup, some
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and that's what we do whenever the
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bring on Austin Montgomery, who were
with us for the majority of this week.

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That's right, And we've talked a
lot about the big news today,

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and that is that Dan Hurley is
just is staying at Yukon. He is

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not going to take the Lakers job. I go back to last week when

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the news broke. I just thought
the timing of it made it seem as

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if, you know, if he
was if he was going to say no,

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he already would have. Well,
it turns out he hadn't visited La

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yet. He did that over the
weekend, and the longer it played out,

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I felt like the more likely it
was going to be that he ended

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up staying at Yukon. But I
just still had a hard time thinking that

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he would turn down the Lakers given
really everything. I mean, he's went

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back to back national championships at Yukon. That's going to be hard to sustain.

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You know, he's always wanted to
coach in the NBA. A lot

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of us, myself included, didn't
know that, but that's something that if

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you go back and a lot of
people did a good job of pulling different

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interviews that he has done over the
years where he's never shot away from having

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interest in the NBA and it's the
Lakers job. So to me, it

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just kind of felt like, yeah, this if he really wants to go

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to the NBA, this is the
time to do it, and this would

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be a great opportunity for him.
But he said no, He's going to

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stay in college and that is good
for college basketball. I don't think there's

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many Yukon fans that are listening to
this right now, but I feel like

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college basketball die hards like my elf
would agree that him staying at Yukon is

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good for the sport. Maybe it's
not going to be good if, you

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know, he starts dominating it even
more so, than he has in the

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last couple of years, and everybody's
just playing for second place. I mean,

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if that ends up that ends up
happening, then you know, that

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wouldn't be good, That would not
be ideal in anyway. But if it

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was going to be such a hit
to see him leave, I feel like

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it's got to be looked at as
a win for college basketball that he's decided

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to stay. Maybe others don't agree, but I'm glad he's staying, and

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he'll he'll make a lot of money. According to Matt Orlander, this will

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put him north of eight million dollars
annually at Yukon, and the new deal

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will also up the ante for the
assistant coaches on that staff, Kamani Young,

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Tom Moore, and of course Luke
Murray. So if he's making eight

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million, he's right there with I
believe Bill self and John Caliperi. So

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technically, I guess that would make
him you know, I guess maybe there's

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a little bit more more money going
towards cal and a little bit money going

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towards Bill's self. But you know, if you're in the eight million range

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and they're in the eight million range, but maybe there's one hundred thousand,

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two hundred thousand dollars difference. I
mean every penny counts, I suppose,

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but that to me makes it seem
a little bit more legit that you know,

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Yukon really did what, did everything
possible to get as much money rounded

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up as they could to make him
a very highly you know, make him

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a very rich man, not that
he already wasn't. And the reason I

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bring that up is because there's some
that think that this was all a plan

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to get Yukon to fork out more
money. In that Woje, who does

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have a relationship with the Hurley family. He wrote a book featuring the Hurly

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father, Danny and Bobby Hurley's dad. He wrote a book on him years

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ago, and it's got enough traction
where I continue to see different people discussing

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it on my Twitter timeline that this
was a plant from woj to get Yukon

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to give more money, and I
just still don't see how. Like,

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I mean, again, he went
back to back national championships at Yukon.

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He turned Kentucky down this offseason.
If he needed to flirt with the Lakers

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to get more money, it wasn't
because they weren't willing to spend. It

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would have to be that he was
letting them know, you may not have

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it, but you got to go
find it. And I don't know,

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I just don't. I don't think
money was why he decided to stay Yukon.

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I think I mean, obviously he
wanted more money, and he deserves

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more money. The guy's on top
of the sport right now. But I

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think it just comes down to him
wanting to stay in college. Maybe he

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really gave it some thought, more
than he ever has now that an NBA

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opportunity like this presented itself, and
he just decided, you know what,

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I'm I'm not fit for the NBA, not because I'm not a good coach,

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not because I think I would fail. But let's be real, the

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way Dan Hurley coaches Yukon one is
super successful. It works, right,

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look at the results. But you
can't coach like that in the NBA.

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I mean you can, but it's
unheard of this day and age. And

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I don't mean because he's a drill
sergeant, you know, and he Bob

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Knight or even Tom Izzo, but
it's just a different world. I mean,

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in the NBA, you're coaching,
managing leading you're not. I mean,

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I mean it's rare. You see
any NBA coach you get fiery and

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really, you know, heeded with
one of their players. And in college,

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a lot of these guys just you
know, take it and they understand

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it's part of it, right,
tough love, discipline, that kind of

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stuff. I'd say, a lot
of college players who are mature don't take

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it personal. They just understand that
that's what this is. Right. But

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in the NBA, you know,
and I saw a lot of really funny

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stuff on Twitter where people would share
little clips of Dan Hurley in practice,

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like screaming at a player or saying
something, and you know, the jokes

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were there, like wow, this
is Dan Hurley when he finds out Anthony

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Davis is injured again, and just
you know, like it's not that funny,

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but it did make me at least
think, like, you know what,

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like, yeah, I mean that's
just unheard of, Like you don't

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talk to NBA players the way And
I don't even mean when I say you

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don't talk to them like that in
a way it makes it sound as if

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he's talking to the Yukon players like
in a wrong way that he shouldn't do

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it. No, he should do
everything he's been doing in the last two

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years because it is working at a
very very good rate. But I don't

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know. I wouldn't be shocked if
Dan Hurley gave this a lot of thought

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and just realized it's a compatibility thing. What I'm doing is working better than

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it's ever worked before, meaning he's
having more success than he's ever had as

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a coach at any level. So
one, why why rock the boat?

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Why why change anything up? Let's
just keep winning. But also if you

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do take what you're doing, even
with some minor adjustments from the college game

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to the NBA game, I just
have a hard time thinking that it would

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you know, it would work unless
he literally just completely changed sort of his

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approach because it's just different, man. And it's not because you know,

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like, for example, the Boston
Celtics are about to win the NBA Finals,

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right, They're going to knock off
the MAVs, might sweep them.

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I don't know. Joel Missoula.
I mean, he's the coach. You

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know, he's leading, he's you
know, he's got his clipboard, he's

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drawn up plays. But I wouldn't
be shocked if the extent of Joel Mizzoula's

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role is to kind of, you
know, be the leader massage egos,

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you know, balance things like,
I mean, you need coaching. But

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like it's just different, man,
It's it is. I mean, Missoula

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who's been successful since he's been in
Boston. And if they break through and

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win the title, I mean,
he's gonna be I mean he's gonna have

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he's gonna be an NBA coach.
That's my age that has an NBA championship.

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But fifteen years ago, the thought
of him even being in the position

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of having the job is unheard of. Like things have changed. Man.

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The NBA is going after dudes who
don't have any of the same principles and

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demeanor of Dan Hurley. He just
don't so like he would. He was

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gonna have to probably be a lot
different. And why would you want to

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do that? Why would you want
to change anything? Whenever you're doing what

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you want to do your way,
You've got your program set up the way

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you want it right, You've been
there long enough to where now your system,

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your culture's fully in place, and
you're on top of the freaking world.

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Like makes total sense to just not
see the real value in mixing it

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up, it would have been I'm
sure if you go to LA and you

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start winning and you win some titles, like, yeah, that would make

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you a legendary coach more so than
you are already probably are right, you

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win in titles in the NBA and
winning titles and and you win titles in

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college, that would be great.
But to me just it's I don't don't

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think it's compatible. And that doesn't
That's not a knock on Hurley or any

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other really good college coach that's doing
it his way, But make no mistake

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about it, the type of the
type of person, the type of background

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that the NBA is looking for this
day and age when it comes to coaching

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is not what Dan Hurley is not
because he's not successful. Because again it's

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not about that. Like Steve Nash
got got a head coaching job, Steve

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Kerr is still coaching Darvin Ham.
I mean, he just got fired by

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the Lakers. But like they're going
with dudes who who can relate to NBA

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players that have been in the locker
room as a player before that really understand

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what you know, what comes with
being in the association and in certain instances,

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it's worked really well, right,
I mean you look at the title

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that I mean, look at the
title that all the titles that Steve Kerrs

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won. I mean, that's that's
sort of and that's the way he carries

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himself. Joe Mizoula is that I
mean, so you know it's and they'll

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drop you quickly. I mean Budenholzer
is that his name, the guy who

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won the title with the Bucks Bucks. Yeah, he can midway through what

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the next year? I mean so, And it's because again the NBA tells

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on themselves a little too much,
right, Like I don't I don't think

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it's a good look for the NBA
for that position head coach of really any

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team to look so expendable, like
to look just like it doesn't matter.

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And when you win a title and
then the next season, midway through you

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can the guy who won you a
championship. I mean Nick Nurse did it

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in Toronto. He got canned a
year or two later too. And it's

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not to say that they were fired
in it. They shouldn't have been.

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But like the NBA doesn't really try
to be discreet about how important they truly

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view the head coaching position. Because
again they it's a re tread league,

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you know, and you know not
clearly the NBA is doing just fine with

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the way they're doing it. But
like Danny Hurley had to look around right,

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look, you know, had to
read the room and realize, look,

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I don't coach the way Tyron lou
coaches, you know what I mean,

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Like, I'm gonna be in my
I'm gonna get after these guys and

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We're gonna be competitive as hell,
and you know, there's gonna be this

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collective buy in. And I'm sure
there are still some coaches in the NBA

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that have a little bit of that
to them, but not like Danny Hurley.

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I mean, he's never even been
an assistant in the NBA. And

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I feel like you, you know, you have a better chance of adjusting

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to that if you are an assistant
that gets a promotion to being a head

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coach, then you do a guy
in college that's just always done things very

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very very differently. Too bad,
the Lakers can't go get Kenny Payne,

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Yep. They if they got cal
they could, ye he could finally be

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swayed away from what it was always
the Kentucky's the best job everything before that

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all went to see, well,
what if they did go after caliperiod Arkansas,

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that would be interesting. I mean
they won't, but like if they

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did, that would be that would
be hilarious. One of the things to

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bring up one Hurley is and it
just sounds like it seems like, I

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don't know, I'm seeing the reaction
online. It's like fifty to fifty half

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or surprise because the last week it
seems like everybody they knew they to offer

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for Hurley would be coming soon.
And of course, when you talk about

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the pinnacle of NBA jobs, it's
either got to be like the Lakers or

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the Celtics, so that was one
of them. Boston. It seems like

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Boston's had a very much better infrastructure
over the last few years or where it's

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probably not as hard to turn down
as you would the Lakers. Of course,

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everything going on and surrounding it,
the Lebron factor, but it's seen

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that there was a lot of people
that were advocating that that would have been

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a good fit for Dan Hurley,
and just after everything that you just laid

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out, it's just not a fit. And I'm not surprised whatsoever. I

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didn't even think that he would go
just because of this. Simply he's been

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dominating college basketball. He still has
the old school type of he could yell

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at his players during practice and he
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It's really hard to do that at
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what made everyone think that, oh, this was this is perfect for Dan

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Hurley. Was it just the money? Was it just the Lakers thing?

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I think it was because he really
does like he could stop coaching all together

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now and have nothing left to prove
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he was, and I think timing
typically like and it became clear he that

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he did have interest in the NBA. So if you have interested in the

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NBA, you've already done what you
need to do at Yukon, right,

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you could coach the Lakers. I
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I actually find it refreshing. Austin, and I'm glad you brought that up,

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because there are certain jobs that come
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you hear people. You know,
even if you are in a great situation

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and you've won, and you've had
success in your content and you like where

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you live, your family's comfortable.
For a long time, it was just

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well, you know, all that's
great, but come on, it's the

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Lakers or it's Kentucky, and it
would just be almost impossible to imagine somebody

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turning down a job of that caliber
that is, you know, the all

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time best, you know, depending
on who you ask, but clearly,

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let's be real, if you're a
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Lakers organization, I mean, it's
the Lakers, come on. But I

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actually find it refreshing now that we're
seeing coaches realize. And it's not just

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in the NBA, it's not just
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too, where they say to themselves, look, yeah, that's great,

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like that'd be phenomenal, But man, I got something going on so good

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here I can't walk away from it. Not because you'd feel bad and you

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you know, you feel like you'd
be disc, you wouldn't be loyal to

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those who have supported you and even
like hired you. But it's when you're

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in a phenomenal situation and you don't
need anything because you are perfectly set in

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everybody around you, your family,
you have a great relationship with who you

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work for. It really is insane
to walk away from that, and some

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people have done it and it's probably
worked out. Some people have done it

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and thought to themselves, like,
what in the hell was I thinking?

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Like, for example, Rick Patino, we can say it now, we

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knew it all along, but he
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in recent months, turning down leaving
Kentucky was the biggest mistake he ever made,

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and like, I'm glad he did
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Louisville and we had a lot of
great teams and it was a lot of

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fun and Louisville needed as somebody love
great Patino in a major way at the

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time was that he was that he
was hired. But you know, he

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could have made just as much money. He could have made as much money

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as he wanted to Kentucky had he
never left. He could have continued to

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dominate, and he had everything.
He was a made man. I mean,

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Rick's kind of been a made man
seemingly just about everywhere he's gone other

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than Boston, at least for certain
times. Obviously here there was some things

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along the way that made it to
where he wasn't exactly a made man.

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But actually maybe he was a made
man because he survived it all until he

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didn't, you know what I mean. So being in a really comfortable content

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situation and knowing that like this,
this not only is great, but it's

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sustainable, I can keep doing this
and a and be forever, you know,

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in a great spot. Like maybe
there'll be another NBA opportunity for him

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in a year or two and he'll
end up taking it. Meeting early,

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but I like to believe that he
really just considered everything and understo like this

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is for me, this is what
I need to do Yukon. You know,

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they're not going to pay me what
the Lakers can pay me, but

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they'll pay me enough money. And
I don't need to rock the boat.

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I don't need to shake anything up. Like there's nothing wrong with always wanting

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to climb the ladder and that continuous
growth in your career and your feel whatever

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it is you do. But at
some point you're doing it for I don't

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know, probably to compete with yourself, like to you know, to really

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challenge yourself. I've done it this, I've done it this successfully at the

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college level. Let's see if I
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there's something wrong with that. I'm
a super competitive person with myself. That's

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kind of how I'm wired. But
I also like to think that I would

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realize it's not worth doing that.
Like I have everything I need and you

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know, in no way I'll ever
be in the position that Dan Hurley's in,

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But you know what I mean.
So anyways, I think it's good

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that he came back to Yukon turn
the Lakers down. And again, we

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love college basketball around here, and
I think this is a win for the

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sport that we love. All right, so we don't run into the same

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problem that we did in the last
hour. I'm gonna go Aha and get

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our first break here in the five
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I want to try to run through
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or revisit Kenny Payne's comments for those
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quickly let right or five o'clock crowd
hear it, because it's fascinating to see

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the level of delusion that this man
has. Don't you miss not hearing that

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voice all the time? I mean, do I miss hearing it? No?

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Do you like? Don't you like
miss don't you love not missing your

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voice? I mean, I mean
it would be, it would be.

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Well, it's hard. It was
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vibes and we've got some good things
going on, like it's at this point

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it's impossible for me to just completely
remove that era out of my mind.

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Hopefully I will down the line,
but so fresh. Yeah, also Kaylin

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Clark being left off tam Usa.
I can't act like I'm bothered by it

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or that I really care, but
it's another sign that like the WNBA,

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you know, they claim they want
and deserve a lot more attention and pub

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than they get. But man,
they're they're making it a lot harder for

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themselves with a lot of things,
including this. So we'll get into that

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and a lot more in these next
twenty five minutes, So stick around,

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keep it locked right here. On
Sports Talk seven ninety he ain't let that

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think this myself. You ain't help
me every week? Do come tell?

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They say? See what now?
Back to coffee and company, feel my

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Thorntens on Sports Talk seven nine day. All right, so I'm proud of

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myself. I know this. This
is Morgan Wallen and Post Malone. Right,

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Yes, that's right. So I
don't dislike I actually do like post

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Malone. I just think he's he's
creative, and I think he's very much

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not trying to be He's unique,
right, I think he's sure. I

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have to say that I loved every
bit of his music. This is his

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name is Austin, That's right.
Yeah, so you know I like him.

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I'm not like a super fan,
but I like him. Morgan Wallen,

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I don't really have a strong opinion
on I liked him when he was

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before he was like super famous,
and you know, he's talented. But

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I just I think a lot of
his stuff sounds exactly the same and it's

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just not like something I seek out. But again, it's not like I

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don't like him. But whenever I
heard these two were in the lab as

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they say, yeah they were cooking. Yeah, Morgan Wallen and post Malone

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were cooking something up, I thought
to myself, Yeah, pretty confident I'm

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gonna hate that. But I don't. I like that song a lot.

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He's well done. Yeah, it
is really good. It's it's gonna be

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the song. It is the song
of the summer right now, It's gonna

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be the song of the summer,
No doubt good stuff. I mean Morgan

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Wall and his character kind of makes
it easy to not necessarily hate. But

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you know, what, do they
say, pray on the downfall? Right?

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Not not that I want him to
lose any money or whatnot, but

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he's been he's been involved in like
several different incidents just kind of like acting

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like a fool and using his popularity
as as an excuse. Here's the way

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I here's the way I look at
it. None of us know him on

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a personal level, but there have
been some things that have happened to where

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you tell yourself there's a good chance
that you probably don't think he's a great

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guy, and that you may not
like him, and because you're never gonna

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actually know him, that's just kind
of what people run with. But also,

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you know that's probably mostly dudes,
because women, I mean, bro,

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dude, women love him right,
like he's what do you think the

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ratio is at a concert like when
he was at the Young Center? Uh?

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Not that long ago? I mean, am I crazy to think it's

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ninety percent women? No? No, you're probably just about right. There's

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there's a dude following too, but
that's just because they Yeah, and then

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they want to go see the chicks. Yeah, you know that that would

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be a strategic move. But is
that I guess that's why they all like

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do cosplay and like try to look
like Morgan wall In two. It's their

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best chance to get girls. Right. It's the look now right, I

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mean he's he's one of the he
was like the one kind of spearheading the

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mullet movement back a couple of years
ago at least, that's what I think.

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And then that's that if you look
at a lot of younger couples now,

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you see them with a guy that
sort of looks like is the mullet

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a statement and that's why it's popular
with some? Or is the mullet like

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I have a hard time thing.
I don't have any hair, I got

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a bus cut. I've been pretty
pretty basic with my hair for a long

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time now. Same. But when
it comes to the mullet, I think

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it's more of like a look than
it is like, Wow, that hair

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looks great. Yeah, like if
you could pull it off and you can

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look like you know, as I'm
going to try not to use words that

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may offend some that do have a
mullet, but like you know, like

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I think it's more so just to
kind of fit with you know, your

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your vibe, like you're, yeah, like if you were if you're rocket

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a mullet and you're dressing you know, like a I don't know, like

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a cowboy, Like you're just trying
to let people know, like that's that's

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that's your brand, right, that's
your vibe. I kind of look at

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it the way the ironic I always
looked at now the mullet, how it's

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gone back and how it's come back. Always thought the same thing for like

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the you know people just got just
a mustache or what was called the porn

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stash, right, and people,
Yes, I feel like people just wanted

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that as a talking point. Hey
you've got a mustache. It's it's a

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mullet. Yeah, it's something to
like, you know, make you stand

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out compared to you know, to
the to the boring people like you know,

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like me and hate the mustang.
So mullets. Mullets kind of phased

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out when I was a kid,
meaning like a young kid. There's a

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lot of my friends that I grew
up with where if you go to their

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house, their childhood home, like
their parents have pictures of them up as

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little kids on the wall, you
know, and I'd see my boys and

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I'd be like, damn, you
had a mullet. And you know they

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at that point they're blaming their parents, like, yeah, you wouldn't,

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like you know what I mean,
Like it wasn't because it was stott like

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the at that point when we're in
high school, we're talking like mid two

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thousands. I'm sure my friends who
had mullets's kid whened all evidence removed that

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they ever had a mullet, and
then like I don't know where they kind

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of came back. Remember the rat
tail, Yeah, dude, rat tails

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were big. I never had one, at least not that I remember.

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And if there is, I hope
if I did have one, I hope

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that there's not. There's not video
or not not any evidence that I had

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a rat tail. But I don't
even think I could pull that off like

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I did have that. Like first
grade in Ms. Dennison's class at Overdell

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Elementary, I'm pretty Dennis, I'm
pretty sure like eight of the sixteen dudes

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in the class had a rat tail. Like it was a thing. It

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was, it was it was a
crazy And then I think like by second

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grade, it was no more my
dad can My dad used to rock a

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sweet mullet back in the day.
Nothing I mean, and I bet Morgan

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Walland's mullet has got nothing on your
pops's mullet. No, it was back

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before you know, he was posting
stories on his Instagram about it. Right,

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he had the mullet because he was
a true mullet man. The mullet,

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the dunking Cardinal shirt, the uh, you know shorts are back in

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style now, right? Oh yeah, these were the original like cut off

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the Levi short shorts. Do you
know? You know what else was a

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really popular hairstyle for kids my age
when I was young. The chili bowl.

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Oh yeah, I've been just the
chili bowl before, just the straight

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Lloyd Christmas bowl cut just straight around
and it never looked normal if you had

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like thinner, shorter hair, but
if you had like a thick chili bowl

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meaning where you know, it's like
layered almost looks like you know, you've

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got like a like a helmet on
or something. Yeah, I was,

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I was a I was a victim
of that era. But I thought that

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looked kind of good, Like I
thought chili chili bowl wasn't. It wasn't.

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I mean even as a kid,
I remember seeing other kids with a

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rat tail and a mullet when I
was a young young kid, thinking like,

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God, my parents better not get
any ideas here, because that is

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not I don't want that. I
mean, I always had like the flat

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hair. Anyways. I never had
any volume to my hair. I still

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don't. It's kind of cold a
sacking right now, but like it's I

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don't know, for the time being, and for the time fit it was

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it the the the bull hair was
kind of like your way of I don't

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know. It just seemed like all
the the jocks that you looked up to

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always had like the flippy hair.
I wanted the bowl cut. I never

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I never got it, though.
I think my hair was too thin.

406
00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.119
I love to see you love to
see that face in a bowl cut.

407
00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:51.599
Yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll try
to grow it out. Yeah, one

408
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.519
last hurrah. And I always you
know, I'm not insecure about my hair

409
00:25:55.559 --> 00:26:00.839
because I've never I've never lost hair. But when I get a short haircut,

410
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.519
like I haven't had a haircut,
and you know, it's really short

411
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.359
now compared to most. But when
I get like the buzz cut to where

412
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:10.640
it's like nearly bald, like a
fresh haircut. You know, there's some

413
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:14.000
people that think I do that because
because I'm losing my hair. Yeah,

414
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:15.559
and I'm not. But then one
day, like I'll try. I'm sure

415
00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:19.200
one day, I'll probably get bothered
and insecure enough to where I'll try to

416
00:26:19.240 --> 00:26:23.480
prove people wrong and grow my hair
out and then it won't come back,

417
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:26.720
and then I'll be like, man, I could have had years with hair

418
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.359
and I just wasted it. But
I couldn't imagine a full I mean,

419
00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.319
you have hair, but I can't
imagine like a hairstyle on you. Oh.

420
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:38.240
I used to have a blonde dye, an ugly urine looking blonde mop

421
00:26:38.279 --> 00:26:42.200
on my head. It was not
Nick. Nick didn't have good hair back

422
00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:45.160
in the day. This is the
best thing that I ever did, was

423
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.039
just cutting it all off, keeping
it simple, and I'm I'm very very

424
00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:52.000
glad that I did. When I
had the bowl cut, I just thought

425
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.880
it was always cool, for whatever
reason, to always do the with your

426
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:59.000
haircut, like move it without using
your hands and just kind of jerk your

427
00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:02.839
neck and you move, because that's
that's what like the like the high school

428
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.079
athletes did. They just and looked
really cool. So me, little chubby

429
00:27:07.119 --> 00:27:08.759
thirteen year old me, give me
that ball. Cut let me, especially

430
00:27:08.759 --> 00:27:11.759
when I'm sitting on the bench at
one of my youth basketball games and sweating

431
00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:15.640
from doing nothing. I could just
hit him with that, hit my parents

432
00:27:15.680 --> 00:27:21.279
with that. So this is an
old listener story that some may remember,

433
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.720
but I imagine a lot of people
don't. Roughly eight years ago, I

434
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:29.240
was at the I can't think of
the name of the event, but it

435
00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.160
was a golf scramble where I believe
it was the Kentucky The Louisville Sports Commission

436
00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.799
would have a golf scramble every year
and they'd bring back a bunch of Kentucky

437
00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:41.640
athletes. Rather it be guys who
played at U of L at UK or

438
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.480
played here locally in high school,
or coached, and they would honor those

439
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:48.039
guys. And I did the show
there when I was on at noon,

440
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.079
and Howard Snellenberger came over and I
got to interview him, which was really

441
00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.519
cool. I'd never met the pipe
before and had him on the show.

442
00:27:56.559 --> 00:28:00.359
It was an honor to meet him. And I remember he came over right

443
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.039
as I was going to break and
they set him down and shook his hand,

444
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.839
introduced myself to him, and he
had a very strong handshake, and

445
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.400
I think I had just gotten a
fresh haircut, you know, it's real

446
00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.319
short buzz cut. Yeah, And
he asked me if I was in the

447
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:17.039
service, and I said no,
and then he told me, uh,

448
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.359
well, that's an aggressive haircut you
have there, young man. And I

449
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.880
always thought like, is that a
good thing? Is it a bad thing?

450
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.079
Like? What's an aggressive haircut?
Me? And I kind of think

451
00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.880
I know what he was, what
he was insinuating, but yeah, aggressive

452
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:30.720
haircut. So like now, when
people ask me to describe the haircut,

453
00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:33.079
I should just go back to what
the pipe told me, right, yeah,

454
00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:36.200
give me, give me a one
all over, make it aggressive,

455
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.559
make it aggressive. So I always
just thought that was easier for like my

456
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.319
barbers anyways, just give me,
give me a one and like fade it

457
00:28:41.440 --> 00:28:45.799
midway. Ever since once I got
to high school in the fade was a

458
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:47.960
thing. That's when I'm like,
all right, I think this is what

459
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.559
my hair is going to be.
Yeah, I don't anticipate any any changes

460
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.400
to to to the simple style that
I'm that I'm rolling with your brand.

461
00:28:56.720 --> 00:29:00.119
Yeah, it is it is and
hashtag. I've been committed to it for

462
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.839
a while to where if like I
did, like decide to let it grow

463
00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:07.160
out that like two month period where
you know, it's not it's just it

464
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:11.279
just looks like I'm not well groomed. It looks like I've stopped taking care

465
00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:12.799
of myself. That's why I don't
grow facial hair, because I can't.

466
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:18.359
You know, if I didn't shave
for for you know, two weeks,

467
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.279
I mean, I'd have some whiskers
in there, but there'd be patches of

468
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:26.160
hair, there'd be you know,
bald spots on my face. It wouldn't

469
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.640
be good. Have you ever desired
to desired to really have like a beard

470
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.599
or did you kind of ever want
to get the cornstas look. I wanted

471
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.599
to see what I would look like, but I couldn't ride it out long

472
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:40.200
enough to actually let it. But
I don't think it would like. I

473
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.519
don't think it would. I don't
think I would ever if I find never

474
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.119
shave, like there'd be hair there, but it would look again, I

475
00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.200
would just look like I'm poorly groomed, kind of patching. You know.

476
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.039
I don't see any any changes to
you know, to my appearance as far

477
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:56.599
as hair style or color or anything. I will say this though, I

478
00:29:56.599 --> 00:30:00.160
am getting gray hair, not to
where it's like I can't tell, but

479
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.599
yeah, because it's so short and
it's light anyway, that's true. But

480
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:04.839
here's how I whenever I get a
haircut and I look down at like I

481
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:10.119
know that that that there's gray there, and I had a gray armpit hair,

482
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.400
and it really really it shook me. He rocked me. Yeah,

483
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:15.359
it hit me like, damn,
you're like you're old. Like if you

484
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.880
don't start, you know, you
don't start watching the you know, the

485
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.480
hair on the chest and whatnot,
like it's gonna be you know. I

486
00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:23.599
don't want I'm not right. Look, I'm comfortable, mate. I don't

487
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.480
want to be a silver fox just
yet. You know what I'm saying.

488
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:30.559
I would love to have a nice
gray beard. No, just a nice

489
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.160
I can see chest hair. I
would love to have, you know,

490
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.480
like the Austin Powers Like yeah,
furrness, my hair is just kind of

491
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.640
like scraggly on the chest, Like
there's nothing sexy about it. Dude.

492
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:45.960
There was this high school teacher and
she was she was retiring our senior year

493
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:51.480
and one of our buddies. Uh. He he he had facial hair long

494
00:30:51.480 --> 00:30:55.160
before any of us, had chest
hair long before any of us. Uh.

495
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:57.920
In his names he goes by truck
fitting right. He's a man's fan

496
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.960
when he when we're like yeah,
and he had he had chest hair that

497
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.079
was like sticking out of his polo
in nice So, I mean, my

498
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.279
man's got like a he's got a
rug on the chest as a high school

499
00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:14.480
kid, and we were giving him, you know, giving him crap about

500
00:31:14.519 --> 00:31:18.240
it, kind of busting his chops
or whatnot. And this teacher, she

501
00:31:18.359 --> 00:31:21.759
was an English teacher. She overheard
us, like, you know, kind

502
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:23.200
of ripping him about it. Nothing
crazy. He's one of our best friends.

503
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:26.000
Like we're just busting you know what, like like like guys do.

504
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:30.880
But he had like he had one
he had both buttons of the polo unbuttoned,

505
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:33.119
and he just had like like look
like you know, it looked like

506
00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.279
a long head of hair coming out
of his chest. So we were ribbing

507
00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.359
him about it, and she overheard
it and came over there and she was

508
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:48.279
like letting everybody know how sexy that
was and how like we those who were

509
00:31:48.279 --> 00:31:52.039
busting his chops over it had no
clue that he was gonna all the women

510
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:55.759
were gonna want him because that is
so sexy. And I remember thinking like,

511
00:31:56.279 --> 00:31:57.200
damn, like one, I don't
know if I believe that. That

512
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.720
sounds crazy. Also, you're a
teacher. And then she retired that year,

513
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.759
so like she probably had nothing to
worry about, right, she wouldnt

514
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:08.319
worried about getting out the door.
Yeah, but interesting, It's something I've

515
00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:12.000
always wanted, you know. I
think it'd be pretty cool. It doesn't

516
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:15.279
have to be like an absolute carpet. Now I feel like you can like,

517
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:16.720
no, you got to go Austin
Powers. You could grow Yeah,

518
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:22.359
you could groom it up. Yeah, something about everyone's always Austin like Austin

519
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.839
Powers, right growing up, and
like that's one every one I've had and

520
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:30.400
the mojo. Of course everyone thought
that, but now you're now I'm gonna

521
00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:35.759
think about her Austin like Austin Power. There's only one other Austin. Yeah,

522
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.559
it's funny. All right, let's
get to our last break. We'll

523
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:45.319
come back and finish strong here.
I uh, I wanted to share this

524
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:50.599
this bill that has been put in
place in North Carolina that apparently passed through

525
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.799
the House committee there in Carolina very
quickly, and I don't think we're gonna

526
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.640
see that happen here, but I
just think it's wild that you basically have

527
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.759
politicians in the state trying to dictate
what this, you know, the schedules

528
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:07.279
for these big universities, which again, if they're just trying to help the

529
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.079
state overall, like you know,
I guess there's no there's nothing wrong with

530
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.559
that to me, just seems like, you know, overstepping a little bit.

531
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.960
But anyways, we'll take a quick
break, come back on the other

532
00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:16.640
side, finish this thing up.
It's Coffee and Company. Fiel Beth Thornton's

533
00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:38.960
on Sports Talk seven ninety right now, right now, now back to Coffee

534
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:47.279
and Company. Few my Thornton's on
Sports Talk seven nine. Dy, that's

535
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:50.960
right, we were wrapping up a
Monday edition of Coffee and Company Field.

536
00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:54.880
Beeth Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven
ninety. So this came up last week.

537
00:33:55.759 --> 00:34:00.599
What Will Beat writers who covers the
Carolina schools, shot that a bill

538
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:06.200
that would require North Carolina and NC
State to play app State, East Carolina

539
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:13.360
and Charlotte more often in football and
basketball passed through the House committee in about

540
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.639
thirty seconds. So the bill also
would put in into law that North Carolina

541
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:24.280
and NC State play each other every
year. So I know there are some

542
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:31.199
that like playing the local schools,
right like in basketball or football. I

543
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:37.159
mean, for example, every year
when you play an FCS team, more

544
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:42.880
often than not the FCS team in
football, for Louisville and Kentucky, I

545
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.320
feel like is a team from the
state. Now this year for Louisville,

546
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:52.440
it's not because their FCS team is
Austin p You know, Kentucky's played EKU

547
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.800
Murray. Like there's another FCS school
in the state that I'm forgetting about.

548
00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:02.639
But either way, I have no
you know, I think those games shouldn't

549
00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.079
exist anyway. But look, if
you're going to play an FCS team,

550
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:09.119
I've got no issue. Don't care
if it's Austin p or Austin Poop,

551
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.119
I don't care. So you know, it's whatever. What about Austin Montgomery,

552
00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:16.559
Austin Montgomery, if you want to
suit up, you know, let's

553
00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:20.679
do it. I mean, we'll
see what happens. But in basketball,

554
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:25.440
I mean, I just you know, I'm not anti playing any of those

555
00:35:25.519 --> 00:35:30.199
kind of schools because of any personal
reason. I think if you really give

556
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:36.159
it some thought, this is entertainment, and usually when you play a lower

557
00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.480
level school within your state, that
is you know, miles and miles away

558
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.920
is not in regards to location,
but just you know, competition, it's

559
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.639
you know, it's just a waste
of time. I mean, I get

560
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:52.119
why they do it, but you
know, I'm not against it. However,

561
00:35:52.480 --> 00:35:55.599
there's always been something that's rubbed me
the wrong way, and that is

562
00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:00.159
the smaller schools having like this sense
of entitlement that they're owe to game.

563
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:05.840
And it came up years ago and
I used to you know, I still

564
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:08.440
have the same thoughts on it.
That's Bellerman. So there are a lot

565
00:36:08.440 --> 00:36:12.199
of people who would just say to
you, Louisville Belloman should play every year.

566
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:16.960
Why it doesn't benefit Louisville to play
Bellerman. And they've lost to him

567
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:22.480
once, so you know, like, look, if you went to Bellerman

568
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.280
and you are a fan of both
teams, then like that's cool. I'm

569
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:28.639
not saying that like you should never
play them. But you know, in

570
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:31.360
a perfect world, louis wouldn't have
hired Kenny Paine and they would have had,

571
00:36:32.079 --> 00:36:35.800
you know, a competent coach,
and you'd never lost to Bellerman and

572
00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:37.559
Bellerman's new to D one and I
love Scotty Devinbore. This is not a

573
00:36:37.679 --> 00:36:43.039
knock on him or Bellerman's program,
but just by playing Bellerman, you got

574
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.800
to beat them sometimes about like forty
to jump up in the net rankings.

575
00:36:46.559 --> 00:36:51.079
So you know, if you can
go play another team that's you know,

576
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:53.079
in a different situation as far as
their net number and all that, Like,

577
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:57.159
I don't know, I just have
always felt like like Western Kentucky,

578
00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.519
you know, they they they want
to play Louisville and they want to play

579
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.280
Kentucky, and Louisvill's played them many
times over the years. I think Kentucky

580
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.760
has here and there, and I
think they're actually going to play them next

581
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:08.480
year. But what I'm saying is
like, no, like it's a gift

582
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:14.840
to you, Louisville and Kentucky.
Playing any of these smaller level schools in

583
00:37:14.840 --> 00:37:20.199
football or basketball is a gift.
It is now again if you'd rather play

584
00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:23.280
them than play some similar team as
far as competition that's from another state.

585
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:25.480
Like again, you know, I'm
not against it, but I feel like

586
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:29.440
some of these smaller schools feel like
it's like an entire like they're entitled to

587
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:31.239
a game, and that if you
don't schedule them, you're scared, Like

588
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:35.159
no, it's it's like you should
be apprecied of if you ever get a

589
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.840
game. Anyways, we're out of
time. You guys, enjoy your night.

590
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:45.360
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