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It's Night Side with Dan Ray w
Besy Constans Radio, Gary Tag. We're

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hearing from Dance Back tomorrow night.
Don't worry, folks, only one night

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of me coming up with September.
I'll be in for a week, just

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giving you a plenty of time to
plan ahead. Okay, we're gonna lighten

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things up a little bit. I've
known this guy for a long time.

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He's the Emmy Award winning creator and
producer of Intervention. He is a comedy

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stand up comedian. He is also
a writer and actor. And he is

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a huge political jokie. And I'm
calling him my my expert political analyst tonight

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because it's after eleven o'clock and I
need to laugh. Sam Mettler, how

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are you It's eleven o'clock Gary,
What are you doing up? I'm trying.

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I'm trying to bring home a little
cash shoulder, a little bit,

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just a little bit for you,
for you you were working nice years ago.

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Yeah that was a long time ago, kid, long time ago.

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Well, well I was. I
was thinking about your time, you know,

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back in the zone, when you
were working nights on Washington Street.

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Uh, never mind, okay,
the zone, Sam, that's even before

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my time. Believe me, if
I was working, then I'd still be

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homeless. Sam Betler, how's it
going on? You know what it's going

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on. It's going all right,
it's going all right. The world is

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falling apart. But you know,
okay, so here, here we go,

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let's get to it. Sam,
how do you feel right now about

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our society? Society? Well,
it was funny. The guy a couple

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of dollars ago said that he thought
that Joe had the mojoe to keep going

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right, which I thought was hilarious. Yeah, because I did not see

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that at all. Yes, if
moe stands for loss of motor skills,

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yes, perhaps. I don't know. If you heard his speech tonight,

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Gary, Yeah, well I did. We had it here alive on WBZ.

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Oh my, it wasn't good.
Well you know what it no,

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Sammy, you know what it was. It just reinforced that he made the

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right decision. You know, he
sounds like a guy after a big Pats

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game, after like a few beers, and he's been shouting the whole game,

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and now his voice is this,
and he's he an't quite pronounced thing.

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He's got that delivery now where he
tries to the low the soda voice,

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you know, the low voice with
the with the punchline like mister cook

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my shop teacher who who was the
driver, said guy back at Newton South

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High School who had like three good
fingers, you know, and each one

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of them had the blood, you
know, bruise underneath the fingernail. And

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he's say, Sammy, the Pats
are gonna win the Super Bowl. Yeah,

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yeah, of course nineteen eighty four. Yeah yeah, right right,

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yeah, yeah, not gonna happen. It's it's and the plastic surgery makes

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it look even worse now when you
oh god, oh it's terrible, terrible,

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and I know Trump's had it,
but it bides as awful. It

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ain't good. It's you know,
it's really really tight. So the eyes

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he can't blink, Kenny, No, I mean it's like even Courtney Cox

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said, look, I shouldn't have
got it as she went overboard with it,

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totally went overboard. I mean that's
why people said, people said during

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the debate he was lost. No, his face was just so tight he

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couldn't smile, Yes, yes,
I mean, and the mouth was a

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gape, which is a terrible look. You know what he reminds me of

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it's terrible to say because he's a
good human being. This guy, right,

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absolutely a really good person. And
he reminds me of Grandpa, you

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know, at home and somebody says
we're having company, what do you do

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with bop? You know? Right? Right, that's the problem. I'm

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in the garage now. Now do
you think if he had bailed earlier it

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would have been better? Or do
you think it's better now for Harris that

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she doesn't have as much, She
doesn't have as long a time to mess

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up because I think brevity is next
to godliness now because of the news cycle.

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Well, you know what the problem
is, you still need to gear

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up a campaign, right, And
even though yes, absolutely, how come

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because I don't know, man,
I mean this this rap thing on TikTok

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may get her elected so much as
small ball, You've got to go to

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the states. You got to gear
up your campaign in you know, especially

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you know the swing states. Right, Mobilization is a big deal, and

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it's it is it is handshaking,
and it is going out and and and

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and doing you know, a local
politics. And I think that's I think

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that's very very tough in the lake. Well, the back of your point

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stats do show that of all the
money that spent, it does not have

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the effect that door to door shaking
somebody's hand at a diner does retail retail

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politics, my friend, you know, that's why Hillary when she didn't go

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to Wisconsin. Really that was the
presidency right there, and she was not

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good at that. She was not
good at that now I remember, Yeah,

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she was terrible at that. I
remember there was a column written and

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she was on the bus. She
got off the bus, she went inside

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to I don't know what, at
whatever restaurant it was something to go place,

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and got a salad, didn't say
anything to the people, got back

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and just literally got back on the
bus and like went to work. And

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the point was made by someone in
the press who was following her that her

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husband, Bill would have had the
salad in the restaurant, would have known

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everybody's name. He may have hit
on a cook or two, but hey,

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who knows the economy was good,
and then then he would then he

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would have known, he would have
known everybody's name by the time he left.

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Yep, yeah, you have to
get the hook out to stop Bill

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Clinton from talking to people, right
right, I mean, you have to

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extricate him right, because he loves
that. He loves politics. That's why.

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I mean when you talk about a
guy who no one I mean I

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remember, no one knew who the
hell he was. No No, I

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mean it really, you know,
unbelievable, which is, you know,

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shows how much you know bush One
was was disliked as well. I mean

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it was very it's very unusual.
I still think that didn't want to win.

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I kind of feel like, I
really I think he was like,

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I'm good, I got one term
I wanted. Hey, I remember that

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campaign, and I just thought,
man, he just does not seem to

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be into it. Like when you
lost. I thought he ran the kinnebunk

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Port. Yeah, pretty much,
you know. I mean really he just

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didn't seem to I A, it's
just me. It's just my thought on

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that. Yeah. But I mean
I blame I really blame the people around

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Biden who basically covered up, oh
the disaster his I mean, how do

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you do that about the doctor business? How many doctor business? You know?

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That didn't look great. But I
do have a comment. I do

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have something to say in defensive body. Sam. That's coming up next.

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Sam Medler's our guest talking politics,
Sam's a writer, Emmy Award winning producer

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and comedian. He joins us from
the left coast right here on WBC's Night

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Side. And again, one thing
I think you have to just say,

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Okay, Joe, I get it. That's next. Now back to Dan

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Ray live from the Window World night
Side Studios on WBZ News Radio. My

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Gary Tank way for Dan right tonight. Dan's going to be back tomorrow evening

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President Biden saying so long taking his
victory lap tonight, had that earlier here

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on WBZ and basically been talking about
politics and polic every sense of joining us

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my buddy Sam Metler, comedian,
writer, Emmy Awooe winning producer. One

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of the things that I understand Sam
with President Biden is it's tough for a

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guy to quit, you know,
and I kind of want. I'm kind

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of glad in hindsight that he went
kicking and screaming. I don't know if

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it mattered, but you know,
the debate was so bad, and at

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first I was being critical of the
first lady, what are you doing bringing

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him up there? What are you
doing encouraging him? But like it was

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his life, he spent over fifty
years doing it and he certainly could have

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made more money in the private sector, so how can we expect anything else.

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But Biden did pretty much go kicking
and screaming to the end. And

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if he didn't get COVID, I'm
not so sure he quits. You know

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what it's it's terrible. You got
to take the car keys sometimes from gramps.

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Oh yeah, right, that's what
happened. That's exactly what happened.

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And you know, I created the
show Intervention on A and E Monday nights.

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Everybody, and you know, we've
been on for about twenty years.

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But I've seen this so often where
people get dug in because they cannot see

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what everybody else sees, right,
right, I mean, that's that's that's

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the big thing. I mean,
I've had parents last month, three car

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accidents between the two of them,
and we're going to have to sit down

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and go hmm. And luckily they
do well, so you know they can

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get a driver. I mean,
this is this is a lot bigger than

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that, right, This is driving
my dad to you know, crack a

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barrel. This is this is about
driving the country. And first of all,

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your dad has never been a cracker
barrel in his life. But go

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ahead. That's that's true. Why
I'm trying to play down home? Yeah

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yeah, but Nate, now play
to the people. Yes, I'm trying

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to play to the people. I'm
one of you. Uh yeah, I

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mean this was the kicking a scream. I disagree with you. I disagree

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with you. I think, I
mean, I think everybody has to know

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when they don't have their fastball anymore, they don't mean Seinfeld, they just

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don't Sam It's against human nature.
I understand that it was up to everyone

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around him that I agree with to
push this. Well before I got with

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you on that, I mean,
let off stage, he wandered up.

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And then you hear, like Chuck
Todd an NBC say that he two years

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ago heard from a cabinet member that
there's no way he can or should run

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again. Right, well, nobody
reported well also, well, yeah,

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I mean that that's that's plain wrong. But then you know, you hear

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the rumors that missus Biden wanted him
to run again, and if she had

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said he should run again, or
if Trump wasn't running again, he wouldn't

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have gone. But the party should
have been more assertive early on. To

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me, I felt the Democratic Party
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have somebody ready to go. I
think they get caught. They get caught

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with their past. I think that
they thought they could keep up the charade

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of him being in control of all
his facts. Yeah, because the options

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were not there, and it wasn't
till it was so so obvious, like

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a mule kick to the head of
America. Watching him in that debate,

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did everyon go, Holy caw,
this is this is really really, really

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bad. I mean, because the
other guy just speaks in circles and lies

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and you know, nobody even paid
attention to him because Biden was so bad.

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Yeah, but you know what I
mean. I listen, I'm not

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a Trump fan by any stretch of
the imagination. Right, he doesn't look

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feeble, No, he looks great. Here's the thing and if Sammy,

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here's the thing with Trump, if
he had he would have got re elected,

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if he just basically shut up or
didn't say anything stupid or didn't I

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mean, if he had just continued
to like play the role of president,

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he would have gone another four years. He's the bad boy who likes attention

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by being the bad boy, right, and that killed him. That killed

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him all he had to do.
But you're right, he looks good.

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His hair is fine. I mean, he doesn't look his age. He

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speaks well. Whatever he says,
as wrong as it is, he says

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with conviction. Then how badass was
he in that assassination attempt? For coming?

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My god, are you kidding?
I mean, terrible, tragic,

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But yeah, he raises his fist. As soon as he raised his fists,

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I was like, Okay, he's
going to win. He's gonna wines

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Gary. I would have been in
the fetal position. They would have been

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carrying me out. In the fetal
position. My pants would not have looked

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dry. Be worried about his shoes. Screw the shoes. Somebody get me

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out of here. Well, the
thing about Trump is, from what I

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know of people that have dealt with
him in New York, you know,

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Trump's always been a fighter because while
he acts like the bull in all honesty,

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early on he was bullied. I
mean you probably know this. He

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was never considered as part of the
in crowd of the New York elite.

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As a matter of fact, they
really were embarrassed by him. Of course

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they were. He's on the cover
of People magazine every other week doing something

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naughty, right, Well, you
know for then, you know when he

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started to because he makes some of
his dad's money and he was never on

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the in crowd. Yes, no, no, and and it's it's like

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the it's sort of like the runt
of the litter that has to prove himself

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over and over. And that's why
he relates to this constituency because this constituency

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that is here, they have felt
unheard, they have felt unloved, and

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so did he. Well, they're
not wrong, by the way, of

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course, they're not wrong, because
look, the problem the Democrats have made

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is they have ignored the moderates.
They've ignored the middle. Yep, no

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question. Yeah, I'm a moderate. I can't stand either side on neither

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can I. I'm down the middle
too. I'm like, pay your bills,

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but you know if you want to. You know, I'm all for

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civil civil liberties. I don't care
who gets married. I don't care who

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goes out with you. I don't
care. You know, it's your body

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and all that. Let's just not
go broke. Yes, yes, I

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mean I my preferred pronoun is that. Yes, but you're that But you're

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but yeah, but you're very it's
that as in, uh, look at

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that, look at that? So
so okay, but let's talk about that.

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Let's talk about the appeal here because
you are a writer, your producer,

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you know talent, you know the
TV show, right, because that's

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what it is now. It's a
TV show. Sure, it always has

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been, by the way, since
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yeah, Kennedy and Nixon. But
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seconds. Do you think TikTok and
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even part of the picture before Kamala
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election? They don't vote as much, scary, but will they because of

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her? But will they? Now? Will they? Will it become cool

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to vote? Never? Sorry,
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are not cool. They're just not
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always kids and they frankly, I
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kids are still about themselves. You
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cortex or the frontal cortex that hasn't
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they they don't. I mean,
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right, and and it is it
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on TikTok, but to actually go
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on, they don't. Well,
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know. We had Dave Paliologos,
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things have happened that have never happened
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that, but go ahead, tell
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but Trump got elected. Trump got
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mid candidacy. I'm dropping out.
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I can't, I can't. I
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term presidence that yeah, I share. Yeah, that's you know, joh

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one term, yeah, yeah.
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it's a reality show more than ever. I mean, Sam, I understand

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what you're saying. But at least
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I mean Kennedy. But they but
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host. I mean Trump doesn't.
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are certain sections that they love him, and he is connected and he knows

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what he's doing by not knowing what
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policy, does he really? I
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and says, let him pay for
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I don't know, he's a policy
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a wonk. No, Gary,
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like in terms of things that have
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remember we had a civil war,
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awful, awful, right, but
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The people don't talk about this,
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equivalent, but I mean you had
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the far left taking over city blocks, common bearing sections of the city and

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saying it's ours now. Right in
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organization, right, I mean not
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we we've had, I mean,
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loaded with strife and war and awful
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up to the Gulf War. I
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and years of peace and not a
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than, you know, than the
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awfulness point. We'll take it.
Sam Metler's our guess. We have to

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take a break, going to get
a news update here on the bottom of

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the hour. Get back into it. Find out who's gonna win, uh

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Trump or just Harris? If a
shot? Will the TikTok generation do it?

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Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ
Boston's news radio Bhi, Dan, Thank

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you very much. Gary tangling for
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in the little politics here. Okay, Sammy, here's the thing. I'm

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gonna give you a chance to play
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with Trump. You're in charge now, He's not gonna listen to anything you

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say. But what would you tell
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Shut up? Yeah, I mean, you know what I just saw

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an ad oh a stand up comedian. Shoot you may know her. He

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yeah, you actually may know her. But but the line she just said

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was, guys, if you want
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do. You say, I really
enjoyed this evening. I'm so glad I

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met you. I'm having a wonderful
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rest of your life, she said, Gary, Gary Sales, Sales is

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shut up. Yeah, oh yeah, And I mean he he comes off

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an assassination attempt with his fist in
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him. Then he starts off and
the convention was an outstanding convention. They

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really ran an outstanding convention. It
was flawless. He gets up, I

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want to be president for everyone,
and then and help himself. He cannot

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help himself. They said, don't
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He should. I mean, he
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he can't help being mean, and
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and it's just it's like when he
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said, well, you know he's
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it was the worst. It was
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the fact that this guy doesn't believe
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You got to pay for it,
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listen, I understand that by the
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right that that that we don't get
as much as we give. Right,

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but you, but if you're going
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the way it goes. The exchange
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you know, when you go into
a high class restaurant or a show

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and you want a good table,
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America does, and we do it
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are supposed to get, you know, a certain amount of loyalty when God

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forbid, you've got you know,
bad actors in this world, right that

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you've got a team behind you.
An attack against one of us as an

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attack against all of us, right, And I hate the isolationism. It

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drives me nuts me too, right, you know, absolutely not that I

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think Kamala is going to be a
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hasn't done it. Sure, Sure, I mean, listen, there are

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plenty of governors who haven't had,
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have done a hell of a job
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I think a lot of people look
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Donald, you know, being a
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don't think he is necessarily a great
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I think that he is again too
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I don't think. I mean people
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moral compass. He doesn't. You
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they keep talking about Project twenty twenty
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Trump? Trump cares about Project twenty
twenty five, about you care about anybody?

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Yes, he does. He's not
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tell you, though, His foreign
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Biden's, right, because the one
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right, and I think you need
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Taliban, you know what he had
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Trump told the head of the Taliban
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right wing reports, but you know
actual news reports that that he basically said,

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I'm gonna I'm getting out of there. If you touch a hair in

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the head of any of my guys
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problems. And he gave the guy
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you could see people in the yard. Right, he goes, we know

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where you live, right, and
the and the and the the guy did

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he called him your excellency right right, no, And and you know Biden

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was just softer, right, I
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know, uh, you know,
a a Mitt Romney, someone who is

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moderate, who is common sense but
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I mean, no voter, I
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for Romney, yep. And then
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But the first time I voted for
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up and applaud Katanji Brown Jackson for
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Right, he's a good man.
He's not he's a good man.

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I mean, yeah, it was
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I mean, god, I mean, but he's a good man. I

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mean, if you're tortured for years, it's okay, it's okay. You

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know, I think it might have
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bit. Yeah, But like I
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a hell of a leader. Yeah, I mean, of course, I

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mean but but that's the thing is
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a look at the Supreme Court,
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thing again. I thought about voting

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for Trump when he first when he
was running against Hillary. I went,

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I was open to it, you
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then he gets on Twitter, and
then you know, January sixth,

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and I just keep going back to
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know, people died, and he
stood by and did nothing. And that,

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to me, that's that just wipes
everything out. I understand about the

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economy, I understand about some things. You said. People text and they

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call the show and they think I
hate Trump. January sixth is the reason

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I hate him, and I shouldn't
even say hates a strong word. January

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sixth is the reason why I can't
vote for him. That's it, That's

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it. I mean, Gary,
he wanted to go back to the capital,

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I know, all the insurrection was
happening and lead them I know,

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and the Secret Service said hold on, yeah, I mean he grabbed his

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dry. I mean, he wanted
to be taken over there. I mean,

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he would not disavow, he would
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mean he was watching it on TV
and everyone's begging him to say something and

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do something and tell him to stop
right and in guards and people are people

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are dying, I mean people that
people You're attack. Your vice president is

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under attack, Yeah, you know, I mean what else? I mean

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that's the thing. And then the
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and there hasn't been anybody else to
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me, if there was another Republican
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tribal. Gary Pardy over everything.
It's yeah, it sucks. Uh.

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I want to get your thought.
We got one more segment with Sam Methler

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the dous and Notes for Kamala Harris. So we just talked about Trump.

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Now we have to go to the
other side of the aisle with Sam Medler

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coming up next on WBC's night Side. Now back to Dan red Line from

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the Window World night Side Studios on
w b Z News Radio, Gary Tang,

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we finishing things out for Dan Ray
tonight. Uh. Sam Mettler is

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my guest, have you Award winning
producer of Intervention, comedian writer, Uh,

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political junkie, Sam. I I
before we get to Kamal, I

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wanted to ask you about Putin and
Trump because my feeling always is that Putin

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wants Trump in because Putin thinks he
can play him like a fiddle. Yes,

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but Putin's wrong, right, I
mean, I think Putin is grasping

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to towards anyone who will you know, let him you know be uh,

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and I don't. I think Trump
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someone in the back. So,
you know, I as much as as

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as Putin would like to see the
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see, I think he knows that, you know, Trump could turn

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on him on a dime. Well, I also think that Putin will say

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that, you know, he fears
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that before. But what he really
wants because he wants that to work against

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He wants American voters to disagree with
him and then go for Trump because he

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thinks that Trump would be more of
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sometimes, as he'll is, if
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You know, you could just say
to him, Putin bad and then

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he just to be a contrarian.
He goes, well, not really,

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but you know absolutely that is his
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of Kamala. I'm sorry. I
don't see her as a person who strikes

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fear in the heart of our enemies
around the world. Well, and of

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course not. She has no international
experience. So what you're feeling here with

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the situation, I mean I started
the show by saying I wanted to have

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a good old fashioned convention. But
but everybody says, well, you don't

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have time, you get a mobilizing
Uh, they're right. It's so with

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the electronic media now, and I
understand the glad handing and going house to

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house. But do you really need
this much time to run a campaign where

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everything is so a media and in
your face? Yes? All right,

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okay, well what about comic because
I want to get to most of the

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countries not watching TV. And yes, I don't think they're watching the news.

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Let's put it that way. You
probably have the numbers. I think

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they you know, I think it's
kind of oh, the number of TV

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is dying and dying and dying.
Well, not team talking about content.

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I mean I think people just watch
it. Yeah, but I mean it's

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TikTok. It's I mean, it's
TikTok's dude, she's a STARO ticket.

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Sure. Sure, it's like Chinese
food though you know you get hungry an

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hour after you eat it. I
mean like TikTok's gone out of your head

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and the next TikTok. Well,
do you think that you can work with

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something with that? Do you think
that that can work for something with a

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with a candidate, for example Trump? Do people remember January sixth Kamala twenty

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nineteen ran a terrible campaign. Do
people remember that? Or is it like

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Chinese now where it's gone? No? No, I mean January sixth is

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something you absolutely remember. Right.
What they don't remember is how Kamala did

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in a primary debate, you know, eight years ago. I mean,

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that's just impossible. Or it's four
years ago, I should say. I

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think she's got to stop laughing.
Oh my god, the laugh is awful.

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Her laugh in Hillary's laugh anytime they
get an uncomfortable question, there's that

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fricking laugh, and it drives me
nuts and it drives everybody nuts. Right,

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She's got to be more serious.
She's got to absolutely read her prep

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work. I mean, this is
been an an enormous problem for her,

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and it's why she's been through lots
and lots of her staff because she refused

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to read the prep work and got
in interviews and really really failed terribly.

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Right, She's got to be prepped
and prepped and prepped. She's got to

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stop repeating taglines, right, asking
voters to see what is possible, unburdened

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by what has been I don't know
if you've heard that one. I mean

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there are compilations of that one where
she has said it twenty thirty I don't

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know how many times, right,
and it's empty. And she's got to

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disassociate herself from the border because she
was borders are and that's a mess.

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And she's got to come more towards
the middle for a general election, right,

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she has got to talk about prices, right, because prices are bad.

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I mean, I don't know if
you've been to the market lately,

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Gary, I think you, yeah, you have people to do your shopping

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for you though, Oh don't you
sure? Yeah? Yeah, Gary,

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Gary does the shopping. Yeah,
but no, I mean, prices have

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been crazy. I mean, buying
a house crazy, get it, you

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know, I mean, somebody tells
me what my house is worth them going

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what? Yeah? I mean.
So so she really has to I mean

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because as much as you say people, you know, I listened to you

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before about people not voting their pocketbook. Yes, they do. You know,

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anyone, anyone over thirty or thirty
five is absolutely voting their pocketbook,

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right. Anyone with kids is absolutely
voting their pocketbook. Young people and and

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maybe older people will go with their
heart and the personality if they see a

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leader. But you know, most
of America cares about where their money is

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and how it's doing. And most
of them are not in the stock market

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seeing you know, their money build
and build and build and build. They're

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just going to the market and going, Holy cow, I got to pay

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this for eggs. So I mean, I think that she has got to

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be very very strong at delineating Hamas
from Palestine, right, and and that

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you know, if she wads too
far into that mess, that she's gonna

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lose either way. So I think
she's got to tread lightly on that.

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But you know, Hamas they're terrorists, right, and Israel maybe heavy handed,

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I don't know how heavy handed.
It's so tough to you know,

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tell someone how to handle a war, you know, when we've never had

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a war like that. Well,
yeah, and especially when you were attacked.

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Yeah, exactly. Listen, if
Mexico attacked us like that and kept

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saying, by the way, we're
going to keep on doing that, we

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would be, oh, forget it, relentless, relentless until we got rid

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of the government that did it.
Texas would be going to Central America.

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Yeah. Yeah, Well, I
mean she I think she has a tough

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job ahead because she doesn't do well
in debates and she doesn't do well extemporaneously

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in interviews. So she's got to
prep herself, like, you know,

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she is studying for the hardest part
of her life on Broadway, and it

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is the hardest, you know,
job or part in her life. We

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got about a minute, Sam,
can't she win? I think it's tough.

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I think it's really tough because people
don't know what she can bring.

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Frankly, I think that it just
no they just excuse me. They just

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know who she's against. Well.
I also, it depends if Trump really

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messes up. I mean, and
I don't know if he he's if he

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hasn't so far, I don't know
how he can. I mean, if

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he hasn't, you know, if
he hasn't messed up at this point,

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I don't know if he will,
you know. But I think it's going

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to be closer than people think,
because I do think there will be a

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youthful turnout. But you're probably wrong. I mean, I do think it's

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a lot closer than we think.
Sam. We got to go. It's

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been great talking to you, Gary. I love you, although I did

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miss Dan. No, I don't
worry about it. Hey, I'll book

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you. He's back tomorrow night.
Not a problem. I don't know how

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to Yeah, he's he'll be back
tomorrow night. But Sam, be good.

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Thanks for coming. On and I
always appreciate it. Check out Intervention.

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Where can I see it now any
Monday nights on A and E Intervention

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and also online everywhere. For God's
sake, lay again? What is it

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online? All right? Sam?
Be good? Yeah, you took take

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care. Sam Methli with us an
Emmy Award winning producer, writer, political

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guy, comedian Rob Brooks. Great
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Thank you for producing the show.
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