WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:19.679 Four Finger discounted. Hey go on, everybody, Dano here for a very 2 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:23.480 special episode of four Finger discount. Obviously, this week we are not going 3 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:26.079 to be doing an episode review. As you can tell from the title of 4 00:00:26.079 --> 00:00:28.760 this podcast, I was lucky enough to be joined by the one and only 5 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:32.200 Maggie Roswell last week, the voice behind a characters such as Maude Flanders, 6 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:36.920 Helen Lovejoy, Luan van Houghton, Sherry Bobbins, Miss Hoover, many many 7 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:40.079 women in the Simpsons universe. We don't only to discuss her voices, but 8 00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:44.200 we also cover things like the nineties Christmas parties with the Simpsons stuff when we 9 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:48.479 were all still living close to the studio. We discussed the recording process between 10 00:00:48.679 --> 00:00:52.200 comparing it from the nineties when she first started to now, and it's really 11 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:55.679 really interesting. We even cover things like what microphones they use and what microphone 12 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:58.679 she prefers to use in their home studio, how she gets the script center 13 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:02.560 her these days, and it's just it's really really really interesting stuff. Plus, 14 00:01:02.799 --> 00:01:06.000 what I was most excited for was that we finally got to the bottom 15 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:10.400 of just how and why she quit the show twenty five years ago and how 16 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:12.000 she came back and the reason she was able to come back. Plus she 17 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.599 gives her thoughts on the death of More Flanners, which is really cool. 18 00:01:15.719 --> 00:01:19.000 It's just great being able to finally hear from her point of view what she 19 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:23.359 thought about that whole situation and how they it might have been mishandled. And 20 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.920 she kind of agrees as well, misheaded the situation when she left the show 21 00:01:26.239 --> 00:01:30.000 and the unfortunate passing off More Flanners. But before we get into all that, 22 00:01:30.040 --> 00:01:32.439 though, I need to just remind you guys that you know, please, 23 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:34.680 if you haven't already done so, check out our other shows here on 24 00:01:34.719 --> 00:01:37.439 the fourth fing of Discount Network. We've got Going down to South Park. 25 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:40.000 We've got the one about Friends, which I do with my wife. 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Actually, these holidays were probably the busiest that I've ever had, 35 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.960 which is really great parties and things and stuff. And I actually skated 36 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:28.520 on plastic. That's kind of a new thing. I think you can skate 37 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:31.000 on ice here in Colorado, but for some reason, a new deal is 38 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:35.159 plastic. So I put these skates on. We went on and said, 39 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.879 it's like Paul your Thane. And so I said to the guy, so, 40 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:39.080 how often are you guys doing this? And he said, oh, 41 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:43.120 about fifty people a day And I said really, I said how long did 42 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.280 he stay on the plastic? He said two minutes, So it's like But 43 00:02:46.560 --> 00:02:47.479 then I thought, oh, well, that's kind of a weird thing because 44 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:53.159 it was at the top of a hotel here in Colorado. So I figured, 45 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.479 okay, they can't have ice at the top of a hotel. But 46 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:58.960 then I was reading that they're doing it all over the country and places you 47 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.360 know that are warm. Are you kind of go okay, I don't understand, 48 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:06.599 but okay, be free. Isn't the idea of skating novelty being on 49 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:08.319 the ice? Isn't that why you do it? That's what I was thinking. 50 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.960 But I was thinking if they had something that you could actually do ice 51 00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:15.520 with, you know, or something that was kind of like ice, then 52 00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:20.080 people in la and all over the place could go skating anytime they wanted to 53 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.199 without being on the inside of an arena. But you know, no, 54 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.879 it was all good. So how are you doing down then? That? 55 00:03:28.400 --> 00:03:30.360 It's always good down under? It's actually been a really cold summer though it's 56 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:34.400 bizarre. I feel like some of those shifting so I feel like some is 57 00:03:34.479 --> 00:03:37.960 just starting now. Used to start just before Christmas. We usually have like 58 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.199 a I don't know what it is in fahrenheit. We have a thirty degree 59 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.879 celsius day usually on Christmas Day, so it's usually pretty warm. But yeah, 60 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.280 but it rained on Christmas Day and that's never happened in my life. 61 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:52.840 First time ever it rained on Christmas Day? Was cold? What's going on? 62 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:58.879 Where are we? What? Global warming? They said, you know, 63 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:01.360 it's at with us? Where one day and on fourth of July we 64 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:05.000 were getting hailstones that were bit like golf balls, and then you go, 65 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:09.719 Okay, don't understand. It's fourth of July. It's supposed to be sunny 66 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:14.000 and hot dogs and outside, and you know, so yeah, so I 67 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:16.680 think it's crazy everywhere. And then our summers have been getting hotter than they 68 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:19.959 ever wore. This is from another planet. And then we just had these 69 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:25.000 this cold snap that happened, and then I guess another one's coming through. 70 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:29.120 But they're my favorite. Thing that they're calling what is it there that's going 71 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:33.519 to hit the West Coast is like it's like a you know, a wave 72 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:38.000 solution, whatever it is. It's like some sort of thing that's going to 73 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:42.600 hit California that has never They just kind of came up with these things where 74 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.519 it whirls in and then hits you kind of like a tornado, but it's 75 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.680 not a tornado or hurricane. It's not a hurricane. So I don't know 76 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:54.120 this. Do the Simpsons crew ever have a Christmas party back in the day, 77 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.959 didn't Did you ever attend a Christmas party? Yeah, we always did, 78 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.279 and it was really really fun. They used to bring in snow for 79 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.680 the Christmas party and when, of course it was in la and it was 80 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:06.720 on the studio lot, so they brought in snow so the kids could go 81 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:11.120 sledding. And this was back in the day when they had everybody and like 82 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:14.879 they had just started, and billions of dollars to do everything. And I 83 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.560 remember they brought in a taffy sculptor that this guy could sculpt anything out of 84 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:24.639 taffy, and then they they've had incredible parties. Now the parties are getting 85 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.319 less and left of the guy that's thirty six years So you know what, 86 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.199 Apple, when's the last time that you all got to get that? Can 87 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:32.759 you rete? Because obviously you live fire away from the moll Man Well, 88 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:36.920 see, I'm far away, but so's everybody else. So hany GAZERI in 89 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:44.600 New York, and Harry lives in New Orleans, and Julie comes back and 90 00:05:44.639 --> 00:05:48.759 forth, sometimes in California but also in Shelter Island and then sometimes in Michigan. 91 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:53.480 I think, so she's all over the place and then whenever anybody else 92 00:05:53.560 --> 00:05:57.560 is working. But from what I understand that all of the table reads now 93 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:01.439 even are just all remote. Everybody's at their house, like the people don't 94 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:04.920 even come in. All the producers and directors and everything don't necessarily come in 95 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:10.360 anymore. So it's just kind of everything is as remote as it can possibly 96 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:13.759 be. But ever since COVID, they just went you know what, why 97 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.720 go back? Yeah, so part of it. Yeah, you know, 98 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:20.199 I know you set that trend many many moons ago of recording from home. 99 00:06:20.600 --> 00:06:25.480 But how do you think it's impacted the team dynamic of the show, because 100 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.319 you must have loved back in the day when you're all together all the time, 101 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:31.480 it's the best. And we would play ping pong during the day because 102 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:35.160 you know with The Simpsons, which doesn't happen on any you know, with 103 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:40.279 the cartoon shows like that I used to do for Hanna Barbera and things like 104 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:43.839 that. They all you would come in, you would pick up the script, 105 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.160 you would read through it once and then you'd record in. With the 106 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:51.360 Simpsons, we would do a table read on Thursday, and then they would 107 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:56.160 write all through the weekend, and then following Monday would get another script and 108 00:06:56.199 --> 00:07:00.480 then would all sit around on that Monday and from like nine to five we'd 109 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:02.680 be working because sometimes I do something and they go that doesn't work and then 110 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:06.959 they come back with some cups or whatever. But that was all, you 111 00:07:08.000 --> 00:07:11.759 know, it was just so much fun. And then even before this, 112 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:15.839 they had everybody just standing around in a very small studio. Back in the 113 00:07:15.920 --> 00:07:17.879 day we were in at twentieth Century Fox, where we were in this big, 114 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:23.959 like cavernous team you know, place where you would have an entire recording 115 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:28.199 or you would shoot a movie. And now they're in like a little kind 116 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.360 of sound room. But even with that, a lot of the people just 117 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.879 go in individually because they're all doing other stuff. Yeah, you kind of 118 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:39.439 recreate that energy, can you when you're all in the studio together. Kind 119 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:43.600 of crazy, although we've all been doing the characters for so long that you 120 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.480 can kind of get a hit off of what you do. And especially with 121 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:48.800 the directors, they can hear if your energy is up or it's not up 122 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:53.519 or whatever, so that makes a huge difference, you know. So but 123 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:58.120 it's it's really it's such a trick to keep doing the show. I mean 124 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:01.399 all this time, I mean I do. I do a podcast with Jim 125 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:05.920 Cummings, the Disney Voice actor Winnie the Pooh, Tiger Tazzy Devil, and 126 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.560 he always says that because he's a big he's big on improvisation, and he 127 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:11.519 feels like you can't really improvise when you're all in the same room because it 128 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.399 got bounceslf of each other. Well, you ever want to improvise or did 129 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:18.480 you ever experience any great improvisation in the Simpsons studio? Oh? Yeah, 130 00:08:18.560 --> 00:08:24.360 yeah all the time, because how are haik is it or not? Hank 131 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:30.800 Harry Dan Dan Dan good? Isn't Heah? He used to improvise together. 132 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.360 We used to do sales and company in La so we were doing sales in 133 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:39.200 company forever and then so we used to improvise. So there's little moments you 134 00:08:39.240 --> 00:08:41.799 can do things like you know, I remember, you know, there was 135 00:08:41.799 --> 00:08:46.559 a line where I was like, oh, netty, and then my when 136 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:50.600 I was doing it, the writer saw that my shoulders up were oh netty, 137 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.519 and then that's what they animated. So that also helped everything, like 138 00:08:54.600 --> 00:08:58.039 be everybody being able to see everything. Plus the fact back in the day 139 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.759 we would have also that, you know, so all the writers will be 140 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.639 sitting around the table and with all the actors as well, so then somebody 141 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:11.200 like like they never introduced you know, you knew who Conan was because he 142 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:13.840 looked like an elephant who was six foot five, but everybody else you didn't 143 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:20.559 know until like, really incredible guys, don't Swartzwelder and John Vetti, you 144 00:09:20.559 --> 00:09:22.000 know who used to write a lot of the things that I did, and 145 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.759 they would you would go and it's John Vitty's showing. You watch one guy 146 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.279 go like this and you go, oh, that must be John. Okay, 147 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:33.840 But but they're all amazing. You know, it's been I mean really 148 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.679 now what they do is they do the Halloween show and then they have a 149 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.480 big thing at Universal, which is pretty ironic because they do the party at 150 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:46.440 Universal, although it's a Disney show, so you know, so they had 151 00:09:46.480 --> 00:09:50.120 all the Disney things to do. But that's pretty fun. They didn't have 152 00:09:50.159 --> 00:09:52.919 it this past year because the strike, so there was you know a lot 153 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:58.159 of things that have shifted between COVID and then the strike and now everybody here 154 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:01.879 doing all the things that they do. But it still is the best to 155 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:05.679 be a part of. Do you still get videotapes when you're doing your bits, 156 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:07.879 when you're recording from home, so they can still watch you do it. 157 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.679 Now it's just sending the audio through watch me do it, But they 158 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.919 don't video it. They're just they're the directors are watching me do it. 159 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:16.720 And they saying, Okay, try it like this, try it like this 160 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.120 because we're doing a zoom. But other than that, and sometimes they don't, 161 00:10:20.120 --> 00:10:22.159 they go just do three in a row, five in a row, 162 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.279 ten in a row. You know, of these character of the characters. 163 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:31.039 But it's interesting because there there's a couple of different writers in their new writers 164 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:37.879 now and Matt Selman kind of does half the group and then you know the 165 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:41.679 rest of them are it's like two separate groups. Okay, so but the 166 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:46.080 Matt Selman's crew likes to write more for the characters that you don't see very 167 00:10:46.120 --> 00:10:50.159 often. So I've had a lot of different things for the wyn Van Houghton 168 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.919 and for Miss Hoover that you know, you didn't never knew that it was 169 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:58.080 gonna kind of unfold like that. So that's really that's been really fun to 170 00:10:58.159 --> 00:11:01.720 kind of see where the characters are going. Yeah, because he likes to 171 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.279 focus on what I call the format bending episodes two, doesn't he He likes 172 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:09.639 the quirky sort of stories. Matt. Yeah, yes, this that Matt 173 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:15.840 does. He likes it, you know because for so many years everything was 174 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.799 about the family and stuff, and then he's been kind of you know, 175 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.120 really kind of going on, Okay, what's what else is happening in the 176 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.480 Springfield? Let's look at what else is happening. So so yes, it's 177 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:35.840 been really it's been a blast also this many years to have to be able 178 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.320 to uncover something new in a character that you didn't even know you know, 179 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:45.399 it's I mean, it was kind of like when I guess what was it? 180 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:52.840 Harry Sheer kind of figured out that that his you know, mister Burns 181 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:56.200 and Smithers, that Smithers was in love with mister Burns, and all of 182 00:11:56.240 --> 00:12:00.480 a sudden he was like, what, wait a minute, what and we 183 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.320 were there started laughing. We went, yeah, Harry, like, where 184 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:09.960 have you been? Haven't just seen this song? That's the joke? A 185 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:13.559 joke? I love you man? Which Simpson's cast member. Do you think 186 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:18.240 you've developed the strongest relationship with over the years, Probably, you know, 187 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:22.440 I mean Dan and I probably as far as the cast, But it was 188 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:28.639 so much fun with Nancy and Yardley and again those first years we all bonded. 189 00:12:28.159 --> 00:12:31.440 So we're still like when I go, well, like I went back 190 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.840 I forget which two years ago to the Christmas party and a lot of people 191 00:12:35.879 --> 00:12:41.000 were there and so it was really nice to see everybody. And I bumped 192 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:43.639 into Hank and we were just like, oh my god, how are you. 193 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:46.919 So it was you know, as our lives have gone on, we 194 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:52.919 still haven't forgotten those first years because it was so intense for so long, 195 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.919 because we would do two weeks on in one week off for the entire year. 196 00:12:56.279 --> 00:13:01.200 So you'd start probably in March, and then two weeks on and one 197 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.120 week off all the way through, and then January and February people would be 198 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:09.000 doing stuff, but you'd still do pickups. And so for me, a 199 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.279 lot of the things when I came to Colorado were that I would be doing 200 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:15.799 the things that would make it much more current, like when people go, 201 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.879 wow, how did you get that? You know something global warming or this 202 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:22.000 or what has just ever happened that they just throw it in there, But 203 00:13:22.039 --> 00:13:24.840 they've thrown it in a year later after everything's been animated, and they leave 204 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:30.279 a little bit of time for them to make it, you know, new 205 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:35.039 and different and current. You know. So it's been I think that that 206 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:39.600 has been the most fun to see, although when people say to me, 207 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:41.600 so what's on for this week? You know, what goes on in this 208 00:13:41.639 --> 00:13:45.480 weekend. I go, I got nothing, it could be anything. And 209 00:13:45.519 --> 00:13:50.960 then to see how the scripts that you read and then how it all is 210 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:56.360 transformed, whether the writers have transformed it or the animators have you know, 211 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.600 thrown something in. You know, it's just it's really a black because then 212 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:05.600 we're excited watching the exact same thing as the audience is watching, because you 213 00:14:05.639 --> 00:14:07.480 go, oh wow, I didn't know they were going to do that. 214 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.759 That's really great. Do you still receive the scripts in physical form or they 215 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:15.480 email to you? Now, No, they're emailed to me, you know, 216 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.399 So I get an email and then you know, go through everything. 217 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:24.080 See the they just finished the Halloween show for next year, I guess for 218 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:26.120 this year, twenty twenty four. So then I was able to get the 219 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:31.080 script see all of that, and then each one, like I can read 220 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:33.759 all the script and then see just where my characters are and all of that 221 00:14:33.799 --> 00:14:39.480 stuff. So that's been It's really advantageous because if I only got there's a 222 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:41.840 lot of places that will only give you your scene, and that doesn't help 223 00:14:41.879 --> 00:14:46.159 at all. So it's really great for me to have exactly what's happening and 224 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:52.559 what we're doing. And so it's it's been nice. It's been really nice. 225 00:14:52.720 --> 00:14:54.840 How often do you receive scripts? So when they're working on the shows, 226 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:58.679 I can imagine it wouldn't be weakly beginning a new script. How often 227 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.559 are you receiving a new script? Well, what they'll do is they'll compile 228 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:07.399 them. So like just after in January, I think I did three different 229 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.159 shows and then well, no four. So they usually do two or three 230 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.159 shows at a time, like they'll do some pickups and then they'll do two 231 00:15:15.200 --> 00:15:18.799 shows. But what has also been exciting is that writers that are doing this, 232 00:15:18.840 --> 00:15:24.679 one writer Brian Kelly, I just meant another another writer that now they're 233 00:15:24.679 --> 00:15:28.720 having the writers that have written the scripts direct them, because they used to 234 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.879 have different people like Al Jean or whatever would direct. But sometimes I'll just 235 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.919 oversee and then the writer who has actually written it will direct it. And 236 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.679 it's so much fun because you get to hear how he heard it in his 237 00:15:39.799 --> 00:15:43.200 head, you know, and then if you're not getting it to him, 238 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.120 then you can go, Okay, what do you got? Am I not 239 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.120 getting this? What else do you need? But that's really neat, that's 240 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:54.720 fun. Can you recall any moments where they heard it one way in their 241 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:56.559 head? But then you did it one way and they went that's better. 242 00:15:58.000 --> 00:16:00.960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that definitely. And then you know 243 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:06.720 they a guy named Brian Kaufman is one of the line producers. Sometimes he'll 244 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:07.840 say, hey, did you think of it like this? Or what about 245 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.080 this? And I will do it numerous ways, so they have like eighty 246 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:17.440 five choices of what to do. But and because our recording studio is so 247 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:22.200 good, and then we're also using a recording studio called the Keep because my 248 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:26.919 husband Hal Rail, who's you just saw coming here, he still does. 249 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:30.440 He's been writing a voiceover book. But you know he did G I, 250 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:36.720 Joe and Transformers and Muppets and all that, and I that's why you know, 251 00:16:36.799 --> 00:16:41.320 we know all those old cronies that you know that you interview that then 252 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:42.440 you go, oh god, hi you guys, how are you? The 253 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:47.720 only time we really see each other from all the animation community is if you 254 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:51.480 go to a comic con, which I loved all the Australian comic cons Australia, 255 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.360 New Zealand. And now they're not doing as many, or they're not 256 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:57.960 bringing me. Tell them to bring me more. Daniel from Super and Iva, 257 00:16:57.960 --> 00:17:03.960 I say, bring Maggie back, get back, Yes, exactly because 258 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.559 it is. It was so much fun and I love the people so much. 259 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:08.920 But it was pretty funny because when I was there and they went, 260 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:12.400 they'd be signing their name and then say, you know, what's your name 261 00:17:12.400 --> 00:17:18.920 and they go, let's again, Okay, again, it's again, and 262 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.680 they'd be like and and the person next to me would be is Jonathan, 263 00:17:22.039 --> 00:17:26.000 oh right right. But sometimes the accents were so thick that I would just 264 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:29.960 like, go okay, and you don't want to say too many times Okay, 265 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.200 I don't understand. I'm trying. I'm really trying. How do you 266 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:37.960 spell your name? And then they go or j o hn oh john Oh, 267 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:40.960 that's a whole other way to go. Then we have a tendency down 268 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:45.079 in Australia to blend words, so instead of saying, how's it going, 269 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:48.680 we'll go as down and just it's just one long sound. And that was 270 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:52.960 it, And that was so much fun being able to hear the accents. 271 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:56.000 And I remember when how was on the bus for the first time and he 272 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.680 did something about you know, I think there was and he goes, oh, 273 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:03.400 I do everything all I can to protect it, and they said all 274 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:06.680 of a sudden, you know, oh yeah, because it was like the 275 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:11.599 Crocodile Hunter and the bus driver said, are you making fun of our national 276 00:18:11.640 --> 00:18:15.920 treasure? And he said no, no, oh no, I just loved 277 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:19.000 him because we did. We love crocodile hun her look at his beauty. 278 00:18:19.000 --> 00:18:22.960 This is great. Yeah. Well, we'll have to get yourself and how 279 00:18:22.039 --> 00:18:25.559 on Jim Show at some point, because yeah, Jim, he talks to 280 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:26.759 all the greatest voice actors. Well, Jim is one of the greatest voice 281 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.680 actors of all time, you know. Well, and that's it. Jim 282 00:18:30.720 --> 00:18:33.680 coming sat next to me on this last comic con and it was so funny 283 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.440 because my daughter called, he goes, oh, mom, is he saying? 284 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:38.480 Next to her said yet, she goes, can I talk to him? 285 00:18:38.519 --> 00:18:41.519 And then he did the Winnie the poof for and she was like, 286 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.880 and she's thirty now, but she was like, oh, oh my god, 287 00:18:45.279 --> 00:18:48.880 but I love Jim. Have you ever heard him sing? He's a 288 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:52.039 killer singer. One of the reasons why we started the show was I thought, 289 00:18:52.039 --> 00:18:56.440 with Jim, no one really appreciates just how much of a talent he 290 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.680 was, how much he voiced, you know, and how lucky's he isn't 291 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.880 incredible singer, but people just don't really seem to realize that, and you 292 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:04.400 go, he voiced that character and that character, people go, wait a 293 00:19:04.480 --> 00:19:07.759 minute, he voiced all of those characters. Yep, that was old Jim 294 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:11.880 and that's it. And I think that that was at the time when I 295 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.799 got in, which was I did film and television for forever. So when 296 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:21.359 I was doing the Tracy Omens Show, then they asked me if I wanted 297 00:19:21.400 --> 00:19:25.279 to do The Simpsons and I was just like, I guess, I don't 298 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:27.640 know. Well there's this sketch and somebody doesn't want to do it and you 299 00:19:27.640 --> 00:19:30.400 could do it. And I said, why would I want to do it? 300 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.640 And they said, well, it's with Carol King and Clarence Clemmens of 301 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:37.480 the E Street Band and you'd be doing Leader of the Pack. And I 302 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:41.000 went, you know, I could do that. So that was really fun 303 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:42.680 to sing with those guys. But then afterwards they came back and said, 304 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.400 do you want to do this show? And if I hadn't been on that 305 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:51.240 show doing that at that time, who knows, you know that the rest 306 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:55.200 was history. But I was just I was really about film and television for 307 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:59.400 so long. And if you if people go on at Maggie Roswell dot com 308 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.519 or else, really go on YouTube and then use I said to somebody, 309 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.400 Okay, go and put Morgan Mindy, Maggie Roswell, you know, like 310 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:11.400 all these different shows. But if I have the Maggie Roswell, I guess 311 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.200 channel or whatever. And but you have to kind of scroll down to see 312 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:18.279 some of the stuff. But my daughter was looking at She goes, Mom, 313 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.359 you were so young. I said, yeah, you know, and 314 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:23.519 then you get older, I said to But all lot of the film and 315 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:30.319 television that I did was so much, you know. I did films like 316 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:36.240 Pretty and Pink and Lost in America and a lot of different things that when 317 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:38.960 people there were people from here, and I remember I was leaving to go 318 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:41.519 back to Ala for something and we're getting our nails done. Someone looked up 319 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.240 and said, is that you? I said, why, yes it is, 320 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.279 and they were rich going Pretty in Pink. But I think having done 321 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.880 so many television shows and so much theater and everything for so long that now 322 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:57.599 being on this show, it's so great because everybody just it is. It's 323 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:02.119 like you're in this cast that just goes on forever and ever, you know, 324 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:07.039 And I think that when they said to Matt Grating in London at one 325 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:10.279 point, well, how long do you think the Simpsons is going to go? 326 00:21:10.839 --> 00:21:12.519 And he said, well, we're closer to the end than we are 327 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:15.440 to the beginning. And then of course it had in London Times the next 328 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:21.359 day Matt Grating says, Simpsons is ending. So he said, that's not 329 00:21:21.400 --> 00:21:22.599 what I said. So now when they say how long you think it'll go, 330 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.200 it goes forever, just forever. And I said, good, I 331 00:21:26.319 --> 00:21:30.039 like that go forever. Well said in the past, you don't want to 332 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:33.599 be the guy that cancels the Simpsons. You don't want that to be your 333 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.240 history, do you No, you don't want to be that guy. Well, 334 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:41.160 you know, also with AI, it's pretty scary because essentially, you 335 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:47.119 know, Fox and Disney have enough on all of our voices to just keep 336 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:51.400 doing the show. That's it. And that is the part that is so 337 00:21:51.920 --> 00:21:55.160 frightening about it, and why the actors had gone on strike and why I 338 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.319 think the animation people are going to go into strike. But you know, 339 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:02.680 you can't really put your arms around AI. So I always say to people 340 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:04.960 it's kind of, you know, like you're like you're trying to put your 341 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:08.039 hand in front of a moving train. It's not going to happen, jump 342 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:12.400 on the train or not. But to be so frightened of it by not 343 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.599 doing anything with it. I'm just hoping that, like, here's the common 344 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.839 cold, because if it can go through all the things and figure out what, 345 00:22:19.000 --> 00:22:22.000 you know, what the care for the common cold is, you go 346 00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:26.640 okay, or it's currying cancer. Okay Ai, that's good. But I 347 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:30.880 think in our next election you'll see a lot of scary things. They had 348 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:36.960 something where they had a robo call from Biden that was not true and it's 349 00:22:36.960 --> 00:22:38.920 but it sounded exactly like him. So it was like it was all these 350 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:42.920 different things that they can do and the deep fakes that they can do, 351 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.480 which is the really scary part. I don't think people are going to believe 352 00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.119 anything they say on the internet anymore. But I think it's going to be 353 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:52.920 a case of unless you see in the flesh and the person is speaking in 354 00:22:52.920 --> 00:22:55.519 front of you, you're just not going to believe it anymore. You're not 355 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:57.160 gonna believe it. And why would you you know, you'd go yeah, 356 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:03.200 sure, okay, fine, you know you don't know if it's true you 357 00:23:03.319 --> 00:23:06.400 thought so. With AI, obviously they were everyone went on strike. There's 358 00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:10.119 that fear of being replaced by AI. But you just sort of start touching 359 00:23:10.119 --> 00:23:11.680 on it. Then, do you think there's a way of blending AI into 360 00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:17.279 what you do to sort of continue on your legacy? Just say, for 361 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:21.759 example, you eventually retire, would you be okay with them to AI your 362 00:23:21.839 --> 00:23:26.599 voice as a character? Would you prefer they replace your character with another actress? 363 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.640 Well, I think it would be great to put it with another actress. 364 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:32.359 They tried at one point when I put on the tenth here and came 365 00:23:32.400 --> 00:23:36.240 back on the thirteenth to replace me with someone. But even with that, 366 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:40.880 I think what they will find with AI is there's a stiltedness about AI. 367 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:44.599 You can kind of tell when you're hearing some no matter what you do, 368 00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:48.559 it's kind of like there's a human nature part that just goes that's wrong, 369 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.759 you know. So you you get the feeling that there's something not right here. 370 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.920 And I think they'll keep AI going for a while and then go, 371 00:23:56.119 --> 00:24:00.839 well, you can't give it nuance and that you know right now? I 372 00:24:00.880 --> 00:24:03.480 know with a lot of it, they can make it happy, make it 373 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:08.079 sad, you know, make it edited, but for the nuances for how 374 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:14.000 people really speak, it's just it's hard. I think it would be really 375 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:18.000 hard, So I would. I know a lot of people that are getting 376 00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:23.400 their voices patented. I think who was it, Robert Downey Jr. Just 377 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:27.039 patented his voice so that they can't do an AI for it. So I 378 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.599 mean, I think the other thing that people are doing is trying to get 379 00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.839 to where you can't. If you do it, you'll be sued like there's 380 00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:38.920 nobody's business. So that's about the only thing I think that you could possibly 381 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:44.279 do. You know, but that's a standout when you watch the new as 382 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:47.000 Simpsons is that some of the voices don't quite sound the same, which is 383 00:24:47.079 --> 00:24:48.720 understandable. You know, everyone gets older, you know, the voices get 384 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:52.880 bit shredded. Has the idea of AI ever been thrown out in the Simpsons 385 00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:59.839 world and Simpsons? I think I think for Matt he would be completely freaked 386 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:03.880 out. And what you might be hearing is not so much the people sounding 387 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.920 like the people, but a lot of people in different studios. You know, 388 00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.359 we were in the same studio, we were using the same mic, 389 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.119 so all the people in different studios and trying to put all those and blend 390 00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:18.319 them together, you know. And there's a point during the pandemic, you 391 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.000 know, Hell and I had a recording studio, but a lot of people 392 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:23.960 had to go in their closet and record. So that's going to be a 393 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.640 whole different sound than what's going to come from recording studio. So I think 394 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:33.240 that in itself is whacky and bizarre, you know. So, But but 395 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.119 I think it's it's coming. I mean, it's coming, it's here. 396 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.680 Actually, it's not even coming, it's here, it's here. I'm not 397 00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:49.200 a real person, I'm ai what what what macrophone do you prefer to use? 398 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:53.440 Do you have a microphone of choice that you have to use? Use 399 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:59.319 Annoyman for just because of the depth of my voice. I think with Senheiser 400 00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:00.920 with women a lot of the time, although on Simpsons they did it and 401 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.480 I don't know how they quite made it well. Women can sound a lot 402 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:10.839 sibilant, the essays on you know, if you get the Sendheiser. But 403 00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.079 it's a beautiful mic to use. It's just I think the Noyman has all 404 00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:19.079 the depth of especially a lot of the voice that I used to do all 405 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:23.799 the money voices and ads and all that kind of stuff that it really it 406 00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:27.920 kind of plays your voice better, you know, I mean, it really 407 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:33.000 is. I think for some people's voices really helps a lot. So that's 408 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:37.640 what we use in there for Simpsons as Noymans. So the Simpsons original studios 409 00:26:37.640 --> 00:26:41.000 had Sennhi's, Is that what you're saying. I think senn Heiser's. Yeah. 410 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.480 I don't think that they were in now, but you know, I 411 00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:48.680 would have to remember, and that would be hard. You mentioned earlier pretty 412 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.119 in Pink Losson in America, all your movies, but I want to touch 413 00:26:52.160 --> 00:26:56.119 on some of your guest appearances on shows like Happy Days and Mesh. I'm 414 00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.640 a mass tragic. I love Mesh and you play Sister to get It described 415 00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.000 me in the atmosphere on set of Mesh. What was it like being on 416 00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:08.000 set for Mash? Well, that was insane because Mash was at that time 417 00:27:08.119 --> 00:27:12.720 the biggest show ever, Like, there was nothing bigger than Mash. And 418 00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.240 they had and I had been doing Love American Style American Style and that was 419 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:21.359 my first job, and then they wanted me to do Mash, which is 420 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.279 a couple of lines, and so my agent said, well, it's just 421 00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.960 a little couple of lines, but you know, you should be on Mash 422 00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:30.640 because it's the biggest show. So they I went for the audition and they 423 00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.640 said to me, and of course I went to Catholic school, so being 424 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:38.160 a nun, how great would that be? So I went in and they 425 00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.400 said, can you drive a stick shift? And I said sure, you 426 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:48.079 know, no I figured how hard hit. So we are in We're in 427 00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:53.680 the show. I'm doing my scene and I'm supposed to drive up in a 428 00:27:53.799 --> 00:27:59.119 jeep and I get him the jeep and they have this woman get in with 429 00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:03.480 me and and they have adopted this Korean boy. And so then the mother. 430 00:28:03.559 --> 00:28:07.279 I bring the mother. She said she came to me looking for her 431 00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.920 son. I took a chance. That was my big lines. Those are 432 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:14.960 my big lines. But so she, you know, gets the kid and 433 00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:18.079 they get in the car. So the whole cast is standing there and it's 434 00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:21.119 just like the great Stad moment. And so they say, okay, you 435 00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:22.720 say your lines, get back in the car and then drive out. So 436 00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.119 I put it in gear. Where's kind of was in gear, It just 437 00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:32.079 was holding it. So and I drive and the you know, I'm driving 438 00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:37.200 here and the camera's here and the cast is here, and so I'm driving 439 00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:41.559 and I see the cast face like this, and I actually hit with the 440 00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.200 mirror the camera to the side. I like clipped the man. So I 441 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.519 was like okay, and still they drive out and then they have this Waki 442 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:53.279 taki, Maggie, could you come back? And I went because I don't 443 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.960 know how to back up and turn around, so somebody had to come back 444 00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:00.920 up and turned around for me. But I just about killed the mash cast 445 00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:03.039 on my first one of my second jobs, so that was good. So 446 00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:07.160 Treppa didn't actually the show. You just read, Yeah, you just have 447 00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:10.359 to, you know, you just go if I if I can't be the 448 00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:12.759 lead, I just got to run over. But if sweet and Alan Alder 449 00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.720 came up to me, and I mean he's so huge and he just said, 450 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:19.759 hi, my name's Alan Alda and I go, no, here's fantastic. 451 00:29:21.160 --> 00:29:22.240 And when I did Happy Days in the Verga, truly, I had 452 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.440 done a Happy Days and I did one show and actually that was kind of 453 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.240 wacky because I was supposed to be with Henry and this other girl was supposed 454 00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:37.799 to be with Chachi and so I'm with the Fawns, except I'm five seven 455 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.599 and he at that time he's five six. I don't know whatever it is, 456 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:41.799 but he's just shorter than me. So then they said, well, 457 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:45.319 why don't you guys switch? So then they at the very end were kissing 458 00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.359 them and I'm thinking, ooh, I'm kissing Chachi. He's like, this 459 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.599 is bad. He's a little boy. This is wrong. And then they 460 00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.359 decided not to use that one. But then they had me come back and 461 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.559 I ended up selling the Cunningham's house at the very end, very end of 462 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:06.599 the series. And then with with la Verne and Shirley, I, you 463 00:30:06.640 --> 00:30:10.400 know, played Lenny of Lenny and Squiggy's girlfriend. I was a college girl. 464 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:15.160 So that was really a sweet episode. And Michael McKeon and I are 465 00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.599 you know, probably if they had put us in a series together, it 466 00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:22.559 would have run for a billion years because Michael and I just had this incredible 467 00:30:23.119 --> 00:30:26.440 I don't know that thing. You know, there's a couple of people that 468 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:29.480 you go, okay, you know these two people have that thing. He 469 00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:33.559 was one of them, and we just we clicked. Then that was really 470 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.519 really sweet and such a nice show to do. So but I did all 471 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:41.640 of those all those crazy shows, and you know, I at that at 472 00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.559 that time, you know, you go, it'll never stop, I swear, 473 00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:48.759 and then you start as people get older in the business. That's why 474 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.079 I always tell the kids that, especially women that are in the book business, 475 00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.880 I go, you should be doing voiceover because that has taken me over 476 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.440 that time. And now, you know, going from I'm twenty or nineteen 477 00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:04.720 years old when I started to seventy one years old now and then being able 478 00:31:04.759 --> 00:31:10.839 to do all these characters still is pretty insane, you know. And because 479 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:14.079 on The Simpsons we get to do the boys. Man, oh, don't 480 00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:18.599 be a buttead board because our voices never changed, So you're not gonna have 481 00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.599 like a kid that the voice is gonna change. But yeah, so it's 482 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.119 it's good, it's fun. How did you change your acting approach when you 483 00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.359 went from on camera to off camera with voice acting? Did you change your 484 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:32.559 approach or is it just you just pretended you were still on camera. No, 485 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.519 it's definitely a big change because I you know, I told I tell 486 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:41.240 people when you're doing voiceover, like if if I saw a line and it 487 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:42.960 said the cat ran down the street, and you go, oh, the 488 00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:45.759 cat ran down the street, and then they say, Okay, could you 489 00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:48.640 do that again? But a little smile in your voice. Oh the cat 490 00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:52.119 ran down the street? Okay, now could you do it again? And 491 00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.359 could you do it little higher? Rich the cat ran down the street? 492 00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:00.880 Oh okay, now can we do it again? And all these different levels, 493 00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:06.160 and then you realize that like not only how you approached copy, which 494 00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.720 is very different, you know, for animation you have to have so much 495 00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.599 energy, which luckily I have a lot of energy anyways, but you have 496 00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.440 to have so much energy for animation, which is very different than when you're 497 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.759 doing film and television. And if you're too big, then they go, 498 00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:22.799 could you know, bring it down a little, But in animation they go 499 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:27.079 the bigger the better. You usually turned down the Simpsons Gate, didn't you, 500 00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:30.960 Oh the Tracyellman, leader of the pack spot, Well, I almost 501 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.960 did because they it was it was, you know, they they were going 502 00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:37.279 to do that, and then they call my agent and then I would well, 503 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.200 you know, I don't know, I mean, should I do it? 504 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.319 And they were just saying, yeah, it's just a sketch. But 505 00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.319 it was because of those people that I did the sketch. And I thought, 506 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.960 oh my god, thank God that I did that, because I never 507 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.079 would have done the show. I mean, Bonnie only saw me on that 508 00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.799 show and then saw what I was doing and then said, why didn't you 509 00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.680 audition for this? And at that time, they're still when I went into 510 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.839 anim and when I went into voiceover, I was in LA, and I 511 00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.640 remember I started to do voiceover. The first commercial I did was for Jack 512 00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:13.519 in the Box and it said and all I said was white meat. And 513 00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.039 so right after that, all of a sudden, these residuals started rolling in 514 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.880 and I went, this is the greatest thing ever. I've got to do 515 00:33:20.000 --> 00:33:22.720 voiceover. And then I started doing more voiceover, not as much in LA, 516 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.559 but a lot more in New York. Then I came back to LA 517 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:28.599 and said, look, you guys, you know I'm doing a lot in 518 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.480 New York. I should be doing a lot here, you know, so 519 00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.799 changing agencies, doing all that so you can have a good voice agent. 520 00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:38.599 And then once I started doing more voiceover, but there was still only a 521 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.200 handful of people, like people would say to me, oh, you know, 522 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.559 it's a really tough business to get into, you know, don't get 523 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.839 your helps up because it's just too hard. But now things have shifted so 524 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.079 much because even now they use algorithms a lot of times, like they will 525 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:58.000 say Maggie Roswell and then they'll someone looks it up. Well, she's seventy 526 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.319 one. So there's no way that I could to a forty year old voice. 527 00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:05.240 My voice sounds like in the forties, maybe early fifties, thirties, 528 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.440 you know, but you're not going to have me, do you know? 529 00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.800 I could do seventy one, But for them, a seventy one year old 530 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.920 woman sounds a little more like a grandmother, and I could probably do a 531 00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.880 grandmother's voice. But even so, like you go, well, so I 532 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.519 can't do anything else, which is where it's rough, because you know, 533 00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.320 you can do everything. I mean, we do little boys and this and 534 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:31.480 that. Luckily on the show they have had everybody because of the culture now 535 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:37.360 of having you know, a poo be an Indian and a who's wife like 536 00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:39.760 I had played missus Uppool for a little while, you know, all of 537 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:45.280 those things. I played doctor Hippot's wife. But now they have an African 538 00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:49.159 American woman that plays doctor Hibbert's wife, which all makes sense as you go 539 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.760 along in the in the picture. At that time, we were just doing 540 00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.159 everything because there were only seven people that were in the cast, and so 541 00:34:57.519 --> 00:34:59.119 we just say, okay, you do that, and you do that, 542 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.239 and you do that, you know so. And at the time they also 543 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.880 paid, you know, three voices for one price, so you do the 544 00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.599 three voices, on the fourth voice you get something else. But all of 545 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:14.760 that, again has shifted so much. For what we know is the voice 546 00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:17.599 business. And what I knew was the voice business, which was totally different 547 00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:22.239 than a lot of people. And did you see that I had snowball too. 548 00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:27.559 Here, wait a minute, Snowball too. Just for you? Was 549 00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.639 was the idea of a non Indian voicing a pood that? Were they were 550 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:34.360 those questions that were raised in the nineties or was it just just part of 551 00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:37.760 the job. Just did it? I just did it now I and I 552 00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:44.559 did Bumblebee's wife in Spanish, you know all of that. So that no, 553 00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:45.920 there was just like, okay, do that? Can you do that? 554 00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:50.239 Yes? I can? And in fact, how had been on The 555 00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:55.079 Simpsons when Hank Kazaria was doing the bird cage then he did a poo and 556 00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:01.760 snake and bus driver and something else, you know, so, and so 557 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:07.199 he was doing it but done the sloop pick up. So it was that's 558 00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:10.400 just what we all did. But who knew. And now it's kind of 559 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.920 it's really everything shifted as it should to the next part, so you have 560 00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:17.920 to kind of ready for the next part. Did you say haw a voice 561 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:21.760 the Pooh when he was a standon for hang? Is that what you just 562 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:24.000 said? Yeah, yeah, didn't we do that? Well I did not 563 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:30.079 know that. Yes, we did Pooh and Wigham and and I think snake, 564 00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:34.079 Yeah, a pool and Wigham and Snake. So and I'm sure had 565 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:37.480 he been in La now he'd be doing much more of those things. But 566 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:39.440 now they have some of the casts that comes in and you know, it's 567 00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:43.000 all of that stuff. You go, okay, well cut it what it 568 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.320 should it? Should we have stayed there, should we have done whatever, 569 00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:49.159 But we're really glad that we're here, really glad that we're here. Yeah, 570 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.599 well, we just touched on earlier. You got the gig Bonnie gave 571 00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:54.559 you the she cast you for the Simpsons. I want you to take me 572 00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:59.920 back to that first day working at the Simpsons. Describe the energy, the 573 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.119 vibe of the room, what you were thinking going in there. Tell me 574 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:06.559 about that first Can you remember the first day? Yes, it was wild, 575 00:37:06.599 --> 00:37:09.559 because it was like, I said, this huge soundstage, and you 576 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:13.880 know, I had a buffer because I'd worked with Dan Cassanetta, so that 577 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.599 was amazing, so we already knew each other. And then Yardley was so 578 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:20.119 great. But it was funny because I've just seen Yardley in a play and 579 00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:22.639 she was she played British and I thought she was a British girl with the 580 00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:27.559 name like Yardley Smith. And I said, you're American. She goes yeah, 581 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:30.039 and I said, oh, sorry, I saw you in your play. 582 00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.320 Fantastic. You just looked like a brick to me. I had no 583 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:37.440 idea, and she was just so good. And then how knew Nancy from 584 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.440 the voiceover world, and then I knew Nancy kind of from that. But 585 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.280 it's like it's you know, so you kind of get in there and you 586 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:49.000 know everybody, but you don't. You're standing up in front of the microphones, 587 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.679 and for all of us we stood. I think Harry she is the 588 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:57.400 only person that can sit and keep that energy up. And then Hey or 589 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.840 Dan when he does is he's in plexiglass, so it's here and here so 590 00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.880 that his voice doesn't boom to everyone else in the room. But Harry Shearer 591 00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:12.079 could actually be listening to something, looking at a script to get to do 592 00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.840 his thing, look back down and why read the newspaper? I mean he 593 00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:21.320 was he multitasked like no one I've ever seen. It was amazing. Yeah, 594 00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:24.000 I've spoken to Harry once before. Many people say now that he he 595 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.880 sort of hasn't lost that energy, but you know he sort of just The 596 00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:30.599 Simpsons is a is a job? Now do you do you still say the 597 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:34.320 Simpsons as a job or is it just part of your life? Is it? 598 00:38:34.440 --> 00:38:37.320 Is it? It's really part of my life. It's I'm still excited 599 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:42.079 to do it. I'm still so happy that, you know, after I 600 00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:45.360 you know, after I quit, and then you know, they asked me 601 00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:49.800 to come back because they had these these little characters that they put into an 602 00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.039 environment and the toy company and said, well, if Maggie's voice isn't in 603 00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:55.920 there, if the voice chip isn't in there, then we're gonna not buy 604 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:59.360 those characters. So then they said, hey, do you want to come 605 00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.960 back on the show. So for me even coming back, that was amazing, 606 00:39:02.000 --> 00:39:06.639 But it was also getting our insurance and all of that stuff while we 607 00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:10.840 were here. But as it's wild because even like, we just went to 608 00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:16.199 Portugal, and what I didn't realize is in Portugal they used to use That's 609 00:39:16.199 --> 00:39:20.760 how they learned English. Was the Simpsons. Now a lot of places it 610 00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:25.119 wasn't ever in Portuguese. It was only in English. So the people only 611 00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.920 knew me as the person, you know, and so that is really a 612 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:36.639 trip to me. Is that that that they knew my voice. Like if 613 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.719 I go to Mexico, you know, I say in Spanish, okay, 614 00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:40.840 this, I'm the person that does it. Or Italy or any of the 615 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.599 places that I've gone to. They love that I'm on the Simpsons and that 616 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.800 I was the original voice on the Simpsons. But then they have their person. 617 00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:51.519 But what I think will be interesting to see and this is something who 618 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.679 knows that when they do the Simpsons all over the world, now that they 619 00:39:54.719 --> 00:40:00.119 have AI being able to do everybody's you know, all these languages, if 620 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.880 they'll just have us do it and it will be translated into a thousand languages, 621 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.599 and the person in France and Spanish and all those people lose their work 622 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.400 because they're not as integral to the parts of what they want to do. 623 00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.199 That still remains to be seen. If you know, if Jim Brooks and 624 00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:20.440 Matt Granny go you know, no, we don't want that, or yes, 625 00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.639 this makes it much easier. So it's so that's hard to say. 626 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.360 It's kind of a bad look, but you can say from a business perspective, 627 00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:31.320 it would be probably more wis eruption, wouldn't it. Yeah, very, 628 00:40:31.400 --> 00:40:35.440 but it's yeah, it would be bad. Bye. I don't think 629 00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.360 they're going to be the first to do it. I think everybody, as 630 00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:42.719 you see in every movie, when you see all the people that have been 631 00:40:42.760 --> 00:40:46.880 doing those characters, and then you say, and here's the British version, 632 00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:50.880 here's this version, here's this version, here's this version, and then you 633 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:53.199 know the Chinese version, and then you go, well they just say by 634 00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:58.559 some and so AI blah blah blah, that does the voices, and then 635 00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.679 that's it, and that will be I mean, because unless I don't know, 636 00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:05.760 if we sign a contract that we say that, I don't think there's 637 00:41:05.760 --> 00:41:09.079 anything they can say that you can't say you can you can't use someone else 638 00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:14.079 to do my voice, or you can't use AI for my voice if you're 639 00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:19.519 doing it in Spanish or Portuguese or wherever. You know, so ill don't 640 00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.480 know, it's interesting what you's brought up there where you said that everyone's just 641 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.400 waiting for someone to do it. It's almost like everyone's going so they want 642 00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:29.039 to, but they don't want to be the first. Yeah, they don't 643 00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.840 want to be the second. That's the first person does it, then you're 644 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:37.360 gonna go okay, well yeah, and it is the dam is broken and 645 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:42.400 everything it's it's definitely the wild West. Definitely the Wild West again, and 646 00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:46.719 it is in voiceover itself anyways, and that's shifted. But because also back 647 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:52.760 in the day, you know, I did film and television and commercials and 648 00:41:52.840 --> 00:42:00.239 industrials and theater and you know, voiceover in all of that. That that 649 00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.199 kind of made what I was going to do for a living. But now, 650 00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:06.440 if you're a kid and you're getting into the business, there's not that 651 00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:07.960 many commercials, and if they do, then want to use a star a 652 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.400 lot of the time, or they'll use somebody from the radio station where they're 653 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.599 already paying. And then you know, industrials, some of them they'll use 654 00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:20.159 people. But then you start to see all those places have been cut down 655 00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.400 for income for actors, and so you can't like I was, you know, 656 00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:29.000 I would get classes and everything to people to do voiceover. But then 657 00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.079 you go, well, you know, it's very different than when I started, 658 00:42:31.119 --> 00:42:34.159 and when I was doing it. I mean, we were kind of 659 00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:37.199 in the heyday because not only were we in the heyday of film and television, 660 00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:42.599 but where the residuals were amazing. And then now everything is shifted to 661 00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:47.440 streaming. So shifting to streaming also has changed our pay structure. You know, 662 00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:51.760 so all the actors that pay structure and what used to be, you 663 00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.280 would, you know, get your pay and then they would run it the 664 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.079 first time and you would get the exact pay for the first time, and 665 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.159 then it would go down from there. But now you get paid and it 666 00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:05.840 goes to streaming, and it can be like we'll run a million times and 667 00:43:05.960 --> 00:43:08.079 good luck on them, you know. So I just don't know, not 668 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:12.119 a whole lot that you can say about it or you can do about it. 669 00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:13.800 Yea. I was going to ask you that, because it's hard to 670 00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:15.719 sort of get the numbers specifically when it's on a streaming like when Simpsons went 671 00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:19.320 to Disney Plus. When I was growing up, you just watched it on 672 00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.880 the local TV station and they rerun episodes over and over. So was your 673 00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:30.280 pay your payment impacted greatly. Yeah, yeah, because of the residuals of 674 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.159 everything, and because you know, now they can run it on Fox, 675 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.880 but they had FXX that was running at twenty four to seven and that was 676 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:40.960 the whole thing into itself. And then now going to Disney Plus, they 677 00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.079 can do it the next day on Disney Plus and that is a whole different 678 00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:49.360 pay structure, drastically different, certainly not what it was here. And if 679 00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:52.880 they don't run it on network TV again, then it will be the streaming 680 00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.320 structure, which is very much like foreign residuals. So it's you know, 681 00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:01.199 it's all of that has changed everything. And luckily for me because you know, 682 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:07.239 having pensions and everything and Social Security and all that kind of stuff besides 683 00:44:07.280 --> 00:44:10.599 money coming in from the residuals that they have. I'm really lucky, I 684 00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:14.880 mean incredibly blessed and lucky. But a lot of the kids starting out in 685 00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:17.000 the business, will they see pensions, I don't know, you know, 686 00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.920 And it's very like when I was doing film and television, you would get 687 00:44:22.000 --> 00:44:24.320 top of the show like that was it. You know, you're going to 688 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.400 get paid top of the show thirty five hundred or four grand or whatever. 689 00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:31.119 Now they don't have top of the show. And when you're doing a series, 690 00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:37.239 a streaming series, the leads, the stars are getting this and everybody 691 00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.039 else is not. And I remember when we did the Comic Con and we 692 00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:45.639 saw the people from Game of Thrones and Game of Thrones people didn't get any 693 00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:50.760 residuals like here's your pay, good luck on that, that's it, And 694 00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:53.199 that was also a business model that then they looked here and went, hey, 695 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.679 this is really good, okay, perfect, you know will why don't 696 00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.400 we try this? So you know it's it shifted so much that again, 697 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:05.480 like with AI, can't put your arms around it, and you can't push 698 00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.159 your arms as much around streaming. And there's very horrid for them to say, 699 00:45:08.199 --> 00:45:12.440 well they've run it forty five thousand times, and as far as screen 700 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.039 actors will goes, they go, well, they'll tell us how much they've 701 00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:16.760 run it. That the producers are going to tell you how much they've run 702 00:45:16.800 --> 00:45:21.079 it. Okay, if I just believe that, yeah, okay, good 703 00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:25.159 luck on that our new times had changed. Where in Australia we have where 704 00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:28.960 you al it's called cable, it's called foxtail here and he came in the 705 00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:32.119 mid to late nineties and Bart Simpson was the mascot. He had the catchphrase. 706 00:45:32.159 --> 00:45:36.480 It was all based around Bart and the Simpsons. You could have given 707 00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:37.920 them their own station, you know. The Simpsons been a station on They're 708 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:42.360 called Fox eight. They do marathons to the Simpsons all the time, YadA, 709 00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.440 YadA, YadA. And then last year they cease their contract with the 710 00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:49.599 Simps, so the Simpsons were taken off Foxtail and that's when you knew things 711 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:52.519 had change because Foxtail was the Simpsons. Everyone who grew up in Australia in 712 00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.320 the nineties, that's how we watch the Simpsons. And they go, no 713 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:58.960 more citionens on the on Fox Tale. It's now all on Disney Plus. 714 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:01.960 We went, ah, that's kind of sad. Even though I didn't necessarily 715 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.400 watch it on Foxtail all the time, it was just nice knowing that it 716 00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:07.199 was still there. But now that's gone, let's see, that's it. 717 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.880 I think that that in that change for people and do people want to go 718 00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:14.599 in and go to Disney Plus and look what it is and you know, 719 00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:21.079 and when Rupert Murdot first had everything with Fox also Fox at the time when 720 00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.480 they first did, it hadn't been a cable network like back in the day 721 00:46:23.519 --> 00:46:28.400 when they were going you know, there was NBCABC, CBS, and Fox 722 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:32.280 was considered like a streaming, a second tier only because then it didn't have 723 00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.199 to pay what they paid on network television. But then that all shifted, 724 00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:39.320 and so it's just, you know, it just I mean, the cycle 725 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:45.280 just keeps going and you just keep watching it and hoping for the best. 726 00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:46.480 I know, I sound like an old man shaking my face at the cloud, 727 00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:50.320 but I miss those days when you could just turn the TV and there'd 728 00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.199 be a Simpsons on. You didn't go through and pick it out, because 729 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.039 when I'm going through and trying to pick an episode, I can never pick 730 00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.360 one. I'm just scrolling, scrolling, scrolling. But you would just turn 731 00:46:57.400 --> 00:46:59.960 the TV on there'd be a Simpsons on, and you sat down and you 732 00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:02.599 just watched it, and you watched it and that was it the end. 733 00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:07.280 I missed miss thase days because I've got two small kids, three year old 734 00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:08.639 and a five year old, and they're spoiled for choice, and I don't 735 00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.480 think they have any idea how lucky they are. Oh yeah, exactly, 736 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:17.159 Oh my god. And that's what I think. But anyways, can you 737 00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:22.360 remember the first line that you remember recording for the Simpsons? Oh no, 738 00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:30.719 what was the first line? I don't do you was your first character that 739 00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:32.360 appeared on the show, wasn't she? That was the thing, is when 740 00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.119 I was doing my Flanders. And that's the other thing. A lot of 741 00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:40.519 people don't even know my because she died, so that is that's weird for 742 00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:44.320 like a whole crew of people to go, well, I did want Flanders 743 00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.519 to go, oh who was that? Ned Flanders wife? Oh? Okay, 744 00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:52.320 yeah, and you go no. But I don't remember. What I 745 00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:58.440 do remember is that one line that then they changed into a whole character was 746 00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:04.679 when they had Rush with Greatness and they had and she was painting a picture 747 00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.679 of mister Burns and then she painted the picture of Ringo or did all that 748 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:14.519 stuff. So then mister Burns is there and this woman walks up and says 749 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.559 he's bad, but he'll die. And that was it. And they came 750 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:21.360 to me and they said, could you do that for a character? Could 751 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.880 you just make her? So that's how Miss Hoover was born. He's bad, 752 00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:29.239 but he'll die. That's the one that I can remember. Doing it. 753 00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.239 But oh my gosh, when I first had because all my characters, 754 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:36.400 when I did mod Flanders and when I did hed Enough Joy, I already 755 00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.840 had to create them because they were already created. You know. You already 756 00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:44.880 had Ned Flanders and you already had Reverend love Joy. So those were That 757 00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.599 was a trick for me to be able to have to play off of those 758 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:52.079 two people. Here's a woman from the Midwest. He's very sweet, and 759 00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:54.239 here's a woman that you never want to get in it, you know, 760 00:48:54.440 --> 00:49:00.199 and a catfight with like I think she was the original Housewives of Springfield. 761 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.599 Yes, now with mord right. So I was a child when she was 762 00:49:05.679 --> 00:49:07.840 killed off the show. I've heard conflicting stories on why this all happened. 763 00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.519 Let's just get it all officially on the record here, correct me, stop 764 00:49:10.519 --> 00:49:14.800 me when I'm wrong. So it's nineteen ninety nine. You're having to fly 765 00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:17.360 to Ala to record your lines. It is costing you a fortune in flights, 766 00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.599 so you decide to request that Fox increase your pay from around two grand 767 00:49:22.679 --> 00:49:27.039 to about six thousand. Ballpark aroundt there, and it's just so it covers 768 00:49:27.079 --> 00:49:29.360 the cost of travel so you can get there and do your job. Properly. 769 00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.880 They refuse, and I've read they only offered you one hundred and fifty 770 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:36.599 dollars extra something along those lines. It wasn't much, no no for me. 771 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.920 They said what do you want to do? And I said, I'm 772 00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:44.719 not going to do the show anymore. So it was the wild thing is 773 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:46.719 is that they do have something somewhere that said you know, and then they 774 00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:52.159 fired her. Now I quit the show because I realized I was flying myself 775 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:58.199 back and forth. I was also doing another pilot for Fox where I was 776 00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:01.159 getting paid an inordinate amount of money for this pilot. And if that series 777 00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.920 had gone, so I went, I don't get it. So hearing beginning 778 00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.840 paid this, I'm getting paid a lot of money to do this, you 779 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.719 know, Venus on the hard Drive, which was another series or a pilot, 780 00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:15.800 And I said, what you know, it's both Fox. Why aren't 781 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:19.239 we doing that? And so they said, oh, we can't afford this, 782 00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:21.599 and there's and I knew that they were making money hand of profess. 783 00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:23.480 So I was really good, Okay, that's it. I'm not doing it 784 00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:28.519 anymore. So and I remember hanging up the phone and crying and then I 785 00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.480 thought, okay, well that's really good. And you know, people from 786 00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.599 the show like Hank a Series said, oh, you're my hero. Yeah, 787 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:39.639 I'm a hero without a job. But if and they said, on 788 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:45.199 on Entertainment Tonight, Maggie Roswell's no longer doing the show because she's too tired 789 00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:50.440 to fly from her home in Denver, color. So that was one of 790 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:52.119 those ones that I went, oh, really okay, because I'm so I 791 00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:57.840 need just some you know, some geriityl or something and they'll give me enough 792 00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.719 energy to go and do it. But and I think that that it was 793 00:51:01.199 --> 00:51:07.320 really a dragon sad and I kind of was clear that I probably wouldn't get 794 00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:08.599 it, you know, that they wouldn't come back and go, okay, 795 00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.719 fine, we're going to do this. But when they did try to replace 796 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:19.639 me, and then they killed Maud and I remember seeing Ian Maxtone on the 797 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:22.320 lot and I just said, oh my god, and they will you know. 798 00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:24.320 Pam Hayden called me and said, well, did you hear what they 799 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:27.440 did? And I said, well, she said, well they killed you. 800 00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.119 I said what and she said. They were sitting there and everybody was 801 00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.199 doing the table reading. A lot of people don't hadn't read through the script. 802 00:51:34.199 --> 00:51:36.760 And they go blah blah blah blah blah, and then Maud's hit by 803 00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.440 T shirt canon and dies, and she said the whole room went and then 804 00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:45.800 everybody's like oh, and they just totally freaked out because they didn't know. 805 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:50.480 And then when they had the show where you know, they had the you 806 00:51:50.519 --> 00:51:53.559 know stones that said mad Flanders and all the different people that have died on 807 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:58.760 The Simpsons, and it was mind blowing because I thought, oh my god, 808 00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.199 this is really horrible. But then in the years that I wasn't on 809 00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.800 there, my characters were seen but not heard. So if they did a 810 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.280 thing in the town, they would just see a bunch of people and my 811 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:12.119 characters would still be in it. So I didn't know how it would resolve 812 00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.519 itself. But I'm so glad that they ended up doing the thing with those 813 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:21.239 characters because now I'm back on and I'm happy. So it worked out well. 814 00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:23.480 It really did, because I've just always wondered, how do you build 815 00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:27.360 up the carriage to quit the number one show on television? You know, 816 00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.559 it's still a time, but was it? You just didn't think that's how 817 00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:32.360 you made that decision. It just happened. I really thought about it, 818 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:36.719 and I thought, you know that I felt that my characters have value, 819 00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:42.199 and I thought that they can't pay more for those characters. And then especially, 820 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.039 I mean, it was very gratifying when they couldn't find anybody to do 821 00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:49.239 the characters. And Ian said when I saw him a lot, he said. 822 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:51.239 I said, Ian, you had to kill me, and he goes, 823 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.039 well, you know, we tried to find people to replace your characters, 824 00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:57.159 but your characters are really hard to replace. I said, yeah, 825 00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.800 it's only as if I could do them. So it was, you know, 826 00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:04.119 on one hand, it was for an ego thing that I just went, 827 00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:07.519 Okay, you know, I'm just gonna have to suck it up and 828 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:14.119 do it. But it wasn't like by accident. I definitely said, you 829 00:53:14.199 --> 00:53:17.760 know what, now I think I feel like these characters are more and they 830 00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:22.639 were and now I'm back. You don't think there's any spot there from them 831 00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:24.199 doing killing off Moud. I know they say to you, oh, we 832 00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.559 couldn't find the replace you, but did they have to choose your character at 833 00:53:28.639 --> 00:53:32.039 that time? Well? And the sad thing is, which I think on 834 00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:39.760 the writing perspective, is that Maud Flanders and probably Lisa and sometimes Julie Kavner's 835 00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:45.920 character. You know there's a vulnerability, but Maud had a vulnerability that nobody 836 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:47.280 else has. I mean, if you look at all the characters on the 837 00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:52.679 show, nobody's vulnerable. And so I think in a way, they shot 838 00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.320 themselves in the foot by killing her off, because she was kind of a 839 00:53:57.400 --> 00:54:00.559 voice of reason and a voice of sweetness, and her her religious beliefs and 840 00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.199 her being a mother and all of that stuff. She if you look at 841 00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:09.480 all the characters they've created, have never had something so sweet, and so 842 00:54:09.639 --> 00:54:14.119 I think that that you know, for them, then went oh, wouldn't 843 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.199 this be funny, and then later went oh, huh. So they have 844 00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:20.840 had me come back as ghosts and all sorts of things are flashbacks, and 845 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:23.199 even in flashbacks, they had one where I was a little bit surly, 846 00:54:23.519 --> 00:54:28.159 like the Thanksgiving show where I was a little bit surly, But and Matd 847 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.360 really was never like that. She was just like she was sweet. She 848 00:54:30.440 --> 00:54:32.800 left, her husband, left her kids. It was great. Well, 849 00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:38.480 what the Sayson eighteen now going through in chological order and again sense the negativity 850 00:54:38.480 --> 00:54:43.960 coming into the show just feels like everybody's upset and angry, and this characters 851 00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:45.440 never used to be that way, but it sort of it crept its way 852 00:54:45.440 --> 00:54:49.039 into the into the writing. I'm not sure why, but yeah, it 853 00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.639 managed to do that. Yeah, and then you know, and sometimes I 854 00:54:52.639 --> 00:54:57.400 mean it was different producers that produced at times, but there are some key 855 00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:02.800 shows now where you see because us that you can get little moments of the 856 00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:08.679 sweetness and especially between Bart and Lisa and stuff that they used to have Mike 857 00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:15.800 Reese and Al Jean would really do some incredible, you know characters and and 858 00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:21.760 you know, John Vittie and those guys that would really write some real warmths. 859 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.320 But now I think that the way that the world is, there's part 860 00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:27.840 of it that they just go well, I don't know if that's how it 861 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:30.199 creeps in, but I still think, you know, reading the scripts that 862 00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:35.119 we're doing now, I think that maybe it's be coming back the other way, 863 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.199 because just the ones we've done seem to be going back like back in 864 00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:44.239 the day, you know, better sweeter. I do think season thirty four 865 00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:47.079 was a real turn in the positive direction. Yeah, so that's that's I 866 00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:51.719 think it changed. All right, Well, will you tell everybody to tell 867 00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.400 people down in Australia that I really want we really want to do the comic 868 00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:58.639 cons again. I'll make it my mission. You'll see you at super and 869 00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:02.119 over this year. I'll make it my mission. Okay, And then you 870 00:56:02.119 --> 00:56:07.039 know I do those cameos. So I wanted to say he wants me to 871 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:09.719 do those characters for cameos, I would love to do them. Yep. 872 00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:12.800 I'll chuck the link for that in the description of this podcast. So if 873 00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:15.320 you want Maggie for cameo, check out the link for this description of this 874 00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:17.480 and you'll be able to find it there. Okay, Well, it was 875 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:20.960 so great to talk into you again, and it was wonderful. Yes, 876 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:22.159 it was loveing to have you on and all the best with twenty twenty four. 877 00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:30.840 Thank you, Maggie. I'll talk to you later, all right, 878 00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:32.840 guys, how fun was that? I told you it was a good conversation. 879 00:56:32.880 --> 00:56:36.239 I forgot to mention the AI stuff as well. I forgot how great 880 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.239 that was. But of course I was just mostly excited to hear her thoughts 881 00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.360 on the Maud Flanders death situation, which was great. I forget you can 882 00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.519 I get a cameo from Maggie as one of her many characters from the Simpsons 883 00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:46.880 via the link in the description of this pod, and if you want to 884 00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.400 get access to over one hundred hours of exclusive content from yours truly and all 885 00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:52.880 the others here at the Forthing your discat network, you can support us on 886 00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:55.199 Patreon. But for now, thank you so much for checking out the show. 887 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.960 Rate and reviewers on Apple Podcasts, Spotify review find this show. But 888 00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:00.920 until next week, I'm and have a great and safe week, and I'll 889 00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:09.519 see you then. Hm.