WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:11.439 You know, we're not a gummy beer. It's the Internet. You're busy. 2 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:14.679 Let's do this for July eighteenth, twenty twenty two. For the next 3 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:18.160 hour or so, let me help you sort through the world of gaming on 4 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:22.640 Game mess Mornings Live with Me Jeff Grub Today, I didn't put a new 5 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:25.839 thing here, so I'm just gonna say I love you all very much, 6 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:29.760 but first please join me and welcoming today's co host to Game Mess Mornings. 7 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:33.119 It's Barrett Courtney from Kind of Funny Everybody. Barrett, how are you doing, 8 00:00:34.119 --> 00:00:36.799 Jeff grab I'm doing great today. Thank you so much for having me 9 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:42.640 on the show. I've been actively listening to all the new iteration of Giant 10 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:46.719 bombs, so Yeah Messy Mornings. I've been trying to keep up to date 11 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:51.880 with listening to the Yeah getting messy every morning. Uh listen to the Giant 12 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:55.439 Bomb cast with you on it. It's been a it's been a cool uh 13 00:00:55.520 --> 00:01:00.079 iteration of giant bomb in a in twenty twenty two. I'm very excited to 14 00:01:00.159 --> 00:01:03.840 uh kind of hang out for a little bit and uh kind of uh you 15 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:07.840 know, get my hands into the Messy Morning. Yes, Jeff, Yes, 16 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:10.680 absolutely, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, it's been it's been 17 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:12.000 fun. It's been going well. We're just kind of doing our best, 18 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:15.000 trying to put out a lot of stuff, and it's been, uh, 19 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:17.640 the response has been great. It's been it's been really fun though. I'm 20 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.159 glad you've been listening. It's uh, it's it's weird, like, hey, 21 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.799 we're gonna put together some shows and try to figure some stuff out, 22 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:25.959 and we're gonna have this morning show to anchor stuff. And I'm like, 23 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:26.799 when I was doing, I'm like, I'm just gonna do it kind of 24 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:30.280 funny. He's doing, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do kind of funny 25 00:01:30.280 --> 00:01:32.840 games down and let's just do that. And that's seem to work out pretty 26 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:34.599 well exactly. It's it's a good it's a good basis for a show. 27 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.799 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When we were like talking about, like, 28 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.120 hey, we need to we like we'd like to have something like as a 29 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:42.480 daily anchor, it's like it was kind of hard to think of anything else 30 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:45.560 that would just work. It's like, hey, we talk about games every 31 00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:48.480 day. That makes sense, right, so let's do it. But yeah, 32 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:51.359 I don't know. We were coming into a Monday it's like I never 33 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:53.159 know like that transition, like, Okay, what do we talk about because 34 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:56.920 there's like usually not a lot of news happening on the weekend. There's enough 35 00:01:56.959 --> 00:02:00.239 today. But did you do anything fun on the weekend? Well, here's 36 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.000 the thing, Jeff Grub. Yeah, I had a pretty nice weekend. 37 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:05.319 You know, hung out with my dog a lot. That's why, you 38 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.000 know, the weekends are spent taking her on outings and and things of that 39 00:02:08.120 --> 00:02:13.039 nature. Played a lot with my steam deck this weekend. First, I 40 00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:15.639 got it last week, so I got it in the middle of like a 41 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:16.879 really busy work week, so I didn't really like get a lot of like 42 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.280 actual like just like sit down time with it for like a long extended period 43 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:23.960 of time. So I got to play around with that, doing some cybercrime 44 00:02:24.039 --> 00:02:28.560 on the steam deck, which is great. But here's the thing, Jeff 45 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:30.360 Grub. For those who don't know me, I'm Barrett Courtney from kind of 46 00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.319 Funny. I'm a technical director kind of Funny, So that means I'm the 47 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:37.439 guy usually on the other side of the podcast making sure everybody looks great, 48 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:42.759 sounds great, making sure the podcast is recording all that stuff all and everything 49 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.879 exactly exactly everything Jeff Grubb is doing while hosting at the same time, you 50 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.199 know, which is which is? Yeah, exactly, And so you might 51 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.360 be wondering, oh, like you are, do you have insider knowledge, 52 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:58.560 Barrett, Like do you have, like you know, tenured history in journalism 53 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.120 in this industry? The answers know, I'm pretty much like a professional peanut 54 00:03:01.120 --> 00:03:05.479 gallery on the on you know, the kind of funny x cast games cast 55 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.120 ps, I love you xox so you canna kind of hear me, like 56 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:13.879 butt into conversations and give my two cents. And so you might be wondering, 57 00:03:13.879 --> 00:03:15.680 well, Barrett, than why are you on this new show about video 58 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.800 games? And that's because of one thing and one thing only. I want 59 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:22.319 to call out Jeff Grub for something. So I started this game. I 60 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:27.000 saw you playing this, all right, go ahead. I played a little 61 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.919 game on the switch at first called Neon White sure possibly indie game in the 62 00:03:30.000 --> 00:03:35.800 year and yeah, and so I played it there didn't skip any of the 63 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.800 story like you heathens like you and Andy Cortez to skip it, press an 64 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.759 F to skip in through the cut scenes and stuff like that. But here's 65 00:03:42.800 --> 00:03:44.919 the thing. No one else is playing on the Nintendo Switch. So the 66 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:49.039 only leaderboard that I have to go up against on the Switch is the worldwide 67 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:52.159 leader boards, where I did have like some of the number ones for some 68 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.960 of the levels and stuff like that. And I kept hearing Big Game about 69 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:00.280 Andy your times, Dan Reicherts, and so I was like, you know 70 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:02.759 what, I'm gonna get the game on Steam. I'm gonna get used to 71 00:04:02.800 --> 00:04:06.840 mouse and keyboard for the first time since Portal two came out. That's how 72 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.840 dedicated. Okay, yeah, I'm not a mouse and keyboard person, but 73 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:14.879 I was going to be for this game. And so, you know, 74 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:18.319 playing through the first few missions, getting through all these times, seeing like 75 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:23.079 some of your scores, feeling good about like probably beating some of your scores. 76 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:27.600 Definitely beat two of your scores last night. But then you know, 77 00:04:27.639 --> 00:04:30.519 I'm excited to see the latter half of the game where I'm like, oh, 78 00:04:30.519 --> 00:04:32.120 I wonder what Jeff's time is gonna be on like the final boss. 79 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.720 You haven't beaten me on White yet. You're only halfway through the game, 80 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:41.720 Jeff, come on, man, and this is it's this is my sickness, 81 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:45.439 is that, like I get so I've got read to developer times, 82 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:47.079 and at almost every level I've played. If I don't, it's like one 83 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:49.079 or two levels that I don't, and it's just because like, oh, 84 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:53.560 something happened where I like I accidentally like went forward in the story. But 85 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:56.639 I play until I get the dev time, and then I start playing until 86 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.040 I beat everyone else on my on my leaderboard, and so then I I 87 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:02.920 got distracted, and no, I s thought, I've played eighty hours or 88 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:08.279 so of like Astro's Playroom because of these speed running stuff in there. I 89 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.639 never beat Astro's Playroom. That's like a three hour game. It's like, 90 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.040 there's no excuse for that. But because here's my thing, it's only because 91 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:18.879 the speed running stuff gets so much more fun the further you get in, 92 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:23.079 Because yeah, so that's really just what I want for you. I want 93 00:05:23.120 --> 00:05:26.759 you to live your best life being able to get into some of those really 94 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:29.160 fun levels. In the latter half of the game, I was I was 95 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:30.639 watching Mike stream it last night and he said he beat it last night, 96 00:05:30.639 --> 00:05:32.920 and sure is good, and some of those later things, I'm like, 97 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.240 wow, this is so different than all the things I've been doing. So 98 00:05:35.720 --> 00:05:40.759 and then Dan Record call me a weirdo and chat that is offensive coming from 99 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:46.639 him. Yeah, I will get to I plan to play some today Monday's 100 00:05:46.639 --> 00:05:47.920 I usually have a little bit of time in the afternoon and I'm gonna play 101 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.480 a little bit and then get back to work and all that stuff. But 102 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:55.160 I'll make I promise to make advancements towards the end at least, so who 103 00:05:55.199 --> 00:05:58.160 knows when I'll whenever, I'll beat it. We'll see, all right, 104 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:00.959 before we get into the mess, let's explain ourselves. Each weekday, I, 105 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:03.279 Jeff Greb will help peace or gaming life back together. That includes breaking 106 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.279 news, the ketchup, where we discuss the biggest topics consuming the lives of 107 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:11.199 gamers everywhere, and maybe even bring some of our own original reporting. For 108 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.680 all these topics, I'll get the input from a bona fide expert who will 109 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.240 make me look smart. If you are watching live on twitch Welcome. You 110 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:21.000 can always listen to the show later on podcast feeds by searching for Games Mornings, 111 00:06:21.240 --> 00:06:25.959 or find the RSS on giant bomb dot com. You can also catch 112 00:06:25.959 --> 00:06:29.600 the show later with chapters and timestamps on YouTube. If you were watching on 113 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:31.360 there, please be sure to hit that leg button. It helps people find 114 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:35.360 the show Okay, we have a lot of getting into, so let's start 115 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:41.120 the morning mess with skate forward. Data mining reveals that the game might actually 116 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:45.920 have lootboxes after all. So there is a couple of here and I'll bring 117 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.519 it up here, go and transition to the back end. And I don't 118 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:53.360 know if this is a back end slide show or whatever, but you could 119 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:58.000 see the words unlockables and product boxes and a skate dev team has previously said 120 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.800 that they are going free to play, but they will not have things like 121 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:04.480 lootboxes. Now that gets into how do we define loot boxes and all that, 122 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:08.800 and it's and and then it gets into what will this actually be in 123 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:11.439 the shipping product or is this just something they were testing? But we'll talk 124 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:15.079 about all that. The data minding shows that the game at one point had 125 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:19.160 unlockables and product boxes. And here's what the slide show says. You can 126 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:27.040 earn taps by exploring fun City and completing FCCC challenges, exchange taps for product 127 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:30.639 boxes in the main menu by going to the store. Each product box you 128 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:33.519 open will have a random unlockable item inside. Check out the new stuff you 129 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:40.040 unlocked in the build kit and customization screens, So like that sounds like lootboxes. 130 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:43.959 But what do you think happen here? I could see it a couple 131 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:47.560 of different ways, right, is that either this was an early idea that 132 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:53.279 they were getting into and then probably had like a lot of just seeing it 133 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:57.800 of like the dev's not wanting it and having the constant back and forth between 134 00:07:57.920 --> 00:08:01.480 higher ups. So they want it because it's you have to at least test 135 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.680 it, right, the high up state you have to at least test this 136 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.759 and if you have a better way of doing it, prove it. But 137 00:08:05.759 --> 00:08:09.439 we need to see the side by side comparison, right, that's possible exactly, 138 00:08:09.560 --> 00:08:15.000 And so I imagine there's something going on with like maybe them looking into 139 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:20.120 not a season pass because I don't know if that would make exact sense for 140 00:08:20.199 --> 00:08:24.480 skate, but I imagine there's a different system that's not like very loopboxy that 141 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.279 they're trying to still figure out. Because it is free to play, they 142 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:31.360 have to, you know, be able to justify to the higher ups that 143 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.720 like, hey, this is worth making and this is like the money that's 144 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.399 gonna you know, uh, this is the money that is going to make 145 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.519 over years and years and years because of the system that we have set up 146 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.840 here. So that's what I feel like is most likely going on here, 147 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.080 especially if they did say it would not have loop boxes. I feel like 148 00:08:48.600 --> 00:08:52.720 if it was if that line had come from a higher up, I would 149 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.000 have been like, we'll see. But the fact that, like the dev 150 00:08:56.039 --> 00:09:01.120 team themselves are like, hey, like we're not doing Louke boxes even though 151 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.159 it's going free to play, even though he A is very known for having 152 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.440 Luke boxes. That's that's the vibe I get here. I really want to 153 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:11.200 know what FCCC it stands for. Yeah, like chat trying to figure it 154 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.639 out too. What do you think is it like the Federal Communications Commission City? 155 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.879 Fun City is the name of like the overall area you're going to be 156 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.480 in in the game, So fun city something, and obviously community college pops 157 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:28.240 the mind immediately, but it's fun City community Challenges. That was a pretty 158 00:09:28.279 --> 00:09:31.159 good guest in chat, So I don't know. Yeah, I want to 159 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:35.840 know as well. I'll say that like I feel like, you know, 160 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:37.799 we could really give the benefit of the doubt here, but have they earned 161 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:41.799 that? No? So I don't blame anybody for being like, okay, 162 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:43.879 EA has already found a way to goof this up and be like, oh, 163 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:48.399 there's like you can't buy product boxes, but you can buy taps, 164 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:50.279 and then you can use taps to buy product boxes. If that's what they're 165 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.600 doing here, they are off to the like they're getting off to a bad 166 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:58.440 start. That is stepping out with the wrong foot. This is a bad 167 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:03.200 look immediately because when you say no lootboxes, that there's a certain implication there 168 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:07.279 that we expect there to be sort of no real way to get into the 169 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:13.840 loop of spending money to earn lootboxes in whatever way that actually works. I 170 00:10:13.879 --> 00:10:18.360 think that the likely thing here is that this stuff probably all is on the 171 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.639 free side of things, and this is just or it's not going to be 172 00:10:20.639 --> 00:10:24.320 in the final shipping product at all, like you were saying. But if 173 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.600 it is, it's like maybe taps will just always be the free currency, 174 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.759 and then the real money you spend on will just be like there will be 175 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:33.639 a store where you could buy stuff directly and you'll buy the thing you want, 176 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.240 and then there's gonna be a battle pass. That is my expectation based 177 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:41.639 on like Apex legends. Now I'm not like super familiar with Apex legends. 178 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.799 These days. But I don't think Apex Legends has lootboxes, right, I 179 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:50.480 don't. That would be a question for Blessing ado Age. Yeah, Apex 180 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.360 is one where I've dipped my tone to a couple of times and say never 181 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.799 enough to like actually dig into like what they're kind of like storefront or whatever 182 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:03.279 it is. Tokeimiki and chaceas, why aren't they called skate crates, which 183 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.039 so yeah, of course, there you go, scrates. Get yourself a 184 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:09.399 scraight. Oh I like that. Yeah, that's got a good mouth feel. 185 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:15.720 No, that's just the words straight. Reminds me. What's the word 186 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:18.960 when you know you kind of like leave a little stain in your your underwear? 187 00:11:20.000 --> 00:11:24.320 What's that? Yes? Uh god, a streak? A streak market 188 00:11:24.440 --> 00:11:26.320 yeah, streak, Yeah, streak. Bars said that, that's what That's 189 00:11:26.360 --> 00:11:31.600 what comes to mind when I hear screat skid marks. That's what marks around 190 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:33.960 here. We call those Paul Reicherts. Just so you know, we call 191 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:39.559 those Paul, We call those dads dads. Uh uh, I mean listen, 192 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:43.000 I'm still like, okay, this game is years off, right, 193 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:45.720 That's what I've heard. They haven't said that explicitly, but they've been like, 194 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.279 hey, it's very early, this is pretty pre pre alpha and all 195 00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:50.960 that stuff. But yeah, I've heard it's years off. There's gonna be 196 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.559 a lot of time for anything mentioned to change, let alone things that they 197 00:11:54.600 --> 00:11:58.080 said explicitly wouldn't be in the game. Now, that doesn't mean people shouldn't 198 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.759 criticize and shouldn't have these fears, because that's how they get EA to change. 199 00:12:01.799 --> 00:12:05.720 And we'll talk a little bit about like other stuff that's happening with with 200 00:12:05.759 --> 00:12:09.360 loot boxes in terms of government government regulation on the show today, But mostly 201 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:15.000 the way things change in video games, at least is by people yelling and 202 00:12:15.039 --> 00:12:16.960 criticizing. So if you don't want this stuff to show up in the final 203 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.519 version of Hashtag Skate four, then yell about it. Yeah, that's that 204 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:26.000 totally is fair. I think it does definitely feel right now like a monkey's 205 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.759 pause situation and we want skate back. But here's here's what skate is in 206 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.039 the twenty twenties, you know, And I think that's what like when you 207 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.679 talk to people who have really are like really in the skate scene and really 208 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:39.720 want this game to come. They knew that monkey poff from the beginning. 209 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:41.240 They knew like, if we were going to get this, it was always 210 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:45.200 going to be free to play. It was always going to be long term 211 00:12:45.240 --> 00:12:48.360 monetization, where you know, the people who spend a lot of time in 212 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.519 that game are going to be able to spend a thousand dollars over the course 213 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.919 of years and stuff like that. So they knew that and they mostly accepted 214 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.879 it. I think, all right, let's move on to Sucker Punch Production 215 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.799 announces it's sold nine point seven three million copies of Ghosts of Sushima. This 216 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.639 weekend marks two years since the release of Ghosts of Sushima. We are blown 217 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:11.320 away by all the sports since then and are so grateful for all of you. 218 00:13:11.639 --> 00:13:15.279 Thank you to everyone who has played and shared this journey with us. 219 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:18.759 That comes from a tweet from Sucker Punch. That is a pretty good number 220 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.399 for a brand new ip sort of no matter what there's a handful of like 221 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.039 Splatoon is on another like like relatively recent new ip that sort of went did 222 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:35.399 about that number over time to kind of like have this come out of nowhere 223 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:37.480 and be like, hey, it's just going to take over that It's really 224 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:39.720 impressive and that ten million market's getting right to that ten million mark. Where 225 00:13:41.080 --> 00:13:43.480 you are now a one of a kind, massive blockbuster. Only a handful 226 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:46.919 of games really get there, but they are the biggest games and the other 227 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:50.080 kinds of games that Sony and EA and ACTIVI should all want, games that 228 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.559 at least sell ten million dollars. I was talking to Mron about that last 229 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:54.559 week. That's the number they all want. So this is pretty pretty good 230 00:13:54.600 --> 00:13:58.279 stuff for sucker Punch, right, Yeah, especially like what you were saying, 231 00:13:58.320 --> 00:14:03.200 like a new ip I'm trying to They're they're the ones who do infamous, 232 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:09.440 correct, and so like for like that being the first game that they 233 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.039 had also made since uh second son and the DLC after that and stuff like 234 00:14:13.039 --> 00:14:16.679 that, and them going quiet for a while, like this is awesome. 235 00:14:16.440 --> 00:14:22.039 I think it's also like this was a game that wasn't just like a big 236 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:26.919 thing in the US market, right, Like this was also like hitting like 237 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:31.320 Japan really well, uh and other like Eastern markets like really well, Like 238 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:35.159 they were all really excited and really loving this game. So I think the 239 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.960 fact that they were kind of able to reach across multiple different markets, I 240 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:43.000 think they know that they have something special with this, And yeah, it 241 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:46.159 makes even more sense now of you know them being like, yeah, we're 242 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:50.840 not doing Sly anytime soon. We're not doing Infamous anytime soon, probably never. 243 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.120 No one else is working on those ips. Keep those ips dead. 244 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.559 Hashtag ghosts Tsushima for life. We're just gonna keep making them until people are 245 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.159 stopped going to be interesting. So yeah, it's I think you nailed it 246 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.000 to with the global appeal. It is the thing that Sony has explicitly said 247 00:15:07.000 --> 00:15:09.399 a couple of times. I think Jim Ryan's kind of talked about it, 248 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:15.200 and they mentioned it when they were closing down like the japan studios and stuff 249 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.960 like that. We want games to have a global appeal. Goes to Sushima 250 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:22.200 absolutely checked every box when it came to that, and you're right, the 251 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:26.279 Japanese market when Gaga for this game, and that's enough. But it's like, 252 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:30.000 oh, it can push a game that was going to be a success 253 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:33.320 in like one territory if it success, if it's a pretty good success everywhere, 254 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:35.279 it can get that like two point five million here, two point five 255 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:39.679 million there, two million here, and get to ten million copies sold. 256 00:15:39.720 --> 00:15:41.600 And yeah, it's been two years. It's not a Nintendo game, so 257 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:46.080 it's gone on sale. But that doesn't that's ten million mark doesn't really matter 258 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:48.600 no matter what you get to, no matter how like what the price is 259 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.159 getting to ten million or you know right around there. Yeah, it's it's 260 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.720 a TV show getting to one hundred episodes, Like you're syndicated at that point, 261 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:58.480 baby, Like you have no worries after that point, And yes, 262 00:15:58.559 --> 00:16:03.840 they guarantees that that that's what they're working on next. There is no world 263 00:16:03.879 --> 00:16:07.639 in which there is not an active team working on Ghosts of Sushima two right 264 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:11.639 now, Like that is happening. Are they still supporting the online stuff? 265 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:15.519 Do you know? I think so? We were actually looking into Like I 266 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:18.440 was like, hey, I want to like look into maybe doing I never 267 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.399 played it, and the last I heard is like, yeah, it seems 268 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:23.480 like they are still like updating it, making sure that it's up and running 269 00:16:23.519 --> 00:16:26.679 and all that stuff. I don't think they're adding new content too much. 270 00:16:26.720 --> 00:16:30.759 But it also was like never supposed to be a It never seemed like it 271 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:33.080 was supposed to be like this ongoing live service game, right, It was 272 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:37.320 always supposed to be, Oh, we are going to add this feature that 273 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:41.960 is opens up the possibility of ghost Soshima in new and interesting ways. But 274 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.559 like most people buy in this game are going to go to the single player 275 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:45.919 and if they want to keep playing, well, now here's this multiplayer thing 276 00:16:45.960 --> 00:16:48.519 to the side. So I think they kind of supported as much as they 277 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:52.200 were ever going to in terms of content. But yeah, definitely still up 278 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:55.919 and running and all that stuff and still working just fine. So yeah, 279 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:59.559 uh, let's see. Sonic team is promising to address complaints with the Sonic 280 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:03.200 Origin collection. In response to a fan asking about a patch, Sonic social 281 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:08.240 media manager Katie Cruz Chris Truz said, hey, thanks for the patients. 282 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:12.160 The team's been listening and it's working on fixing a variety of issues right now. 283 00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.640 We'll make sure to get some more official messaging out once we have more 284 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:21.920 info for everyone. So have you played Sonic Origins. I've not, but 285 00:17:22.200 --> 00:17:25.599 the people I know who've played it don't actually have that many complaints about it. 286 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:29.039 I've seen complaints from one of the studios working on it said like, 287 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:32.160 hey, this is below our standards. And there was a couple of like 288 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.880 big stories of like a fan was working on a mod for the game, 289 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:38.759 He's like this crash. I think I remember like im Roun tweeting out about 290 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:41.359 that of like, you know, it's bad when like a fan is like, 291 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:44.799 you know, it's like screwed this, Like I'm done like trying to 292 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:48.200 fix this game and money and stuff like that. I you know, I've 293 00:17:48.880 --> 00:17:52.759 I'm coming on here as you know, a person who only thinks that the 294 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.880 only good Sonic game is Sonic Mania. I'm gonna be honest. So, 295 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:00.240 like I'm not a huge Sonic person, and so I've only heard about the 296 00:18:00.559 --> 00:18:04.440 origins tobacco through you know, the internets and stuff like that. I have 297 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.839 from heard from Tim and bless Over a kind of funny that I don't think 298 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.200 they've personally dealt with a lot. I think Blessing might have run into a 299 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:17.960 thing or two, but they are such on the level of like loving Sonic 300 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:21.599 that it wasn't enough for them to be like super dissuaded by it. Like 301 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:23.839 I think they're both trying to get the platinum for it on PlayStation because it's 302 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:27.680 seems like super obtainable and stuff like that. So, yeah, it might 303 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:32.440 be one of those weird ones where you know, it's it's a different situation 304 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:34.279 for different people, and you know, it might just happen to be a 305 00:18:34.279 --> 00:18:37.799 lot of people are are getting the same kind of like issues. But you 306 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:42.720 know the hand, the lucky few who we actually like hear and talk from 307 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:48.000 are are not getting those those same issues. Like it reminds me of you 308 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.519 know, like we all loved Spider Man, Uh what was that twenty eighteen. 309 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:56.440 No problems with that on a technical level, But then a personal buddy 310 00:18:56.480 --> 00:19:02.480 of mine, every single cut scene none of the character models like acted properly. 311 00:19:02.720 --> 00:19:04.759 They would all like kind of just like float around and stuff like that 312 00:19:04.759 --> 00:19:07.480 while the voice acting the cut scene was going on, and I'm pretty sure 313 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.039 he was the only one who dealt with that problem. So there is weird 314 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:14.240 stuff like that that like we don't see from like our ends, like on 315 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:18.000 the industry side, But then like fans are getting like yeah, some weird 316 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:19.720 bugs and stuff like that that we would just don't see this one, and 317 00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:22.440 this one seems like it's a similar situation. I think at based on like 318 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.119 my understanding is they most and someone chat was mentioned this, and I think 319 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:29.039 it's a good point. As a casual fan, you probably won't even notice 320 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:30.519 most of the issues that's from argent end, And I think that's right. 321 00:19:30.759 --> 00:19:34.559 I think you have to be a sonic like super fan and in that scene, 322 00:19:34.599 --> 00:19:38.440 and someone who might make a mod, and like the community dev team 323 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:41.759 that like has a history of working on this stuff that's Sonic, that say, 324 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:45.319 Goat hired to do this, Like that's that studio that was like, 325 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:48.079 this is below our standards. I give to be like really tapped in to 326 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:49.920 notice most of the issues because they are like, oh, the game used 327 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:52.640 to work like this, and now it's it's slightly tweaked, and now it 328 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:56.599 works like that, and so yeah, Okay, that could frustrate people who 329 00:19:56.640 --> 00:20:00.480 are those super fans. But I think for the most part, this game 330 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:04.319 seems like it might be one of the better Sonic collections overall. And and 331 00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:08.240 in that regard, while it seems like it's getting a lot of negative press, 332 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:11.200 I say, if they just give it a little bit more love, 333 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:12.920 can easily get it to like where it needs to be in terms of being 334 00:20:12.960 --> 00:20:17.759 like, oh, this is the Sonic game that the Sonic collection that fans 335 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:19.359 and casual fans will come back to for years to come. I think it 336 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:25.759 has like the put the potential of getting to that that tier of providing stuff 337 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.799 for Sonic fans. It'll earn all of the different versions that you can buy 338 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:33.319 that have all of the different things that you can collect, and remember that 339 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.799 Jeff grab that was insane to me. I think the one thing I remember 340 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:41.559 when Tim Getty saying was that I think it's Sonic three and knuckles is that 341 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.960 the one where there's supposedly some Michael Jackson produced music that they replace. Apparently 342 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:51.039 that music is also just like very bad, and so if they also work 343 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:52.960 on make Tim that would make Tim very happy. Yeah, yeah, I 344 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:56.519 do a better version of that those new songs whatever, you really, what 345 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.880 does it matter though? When Sonic one has the best muskin he has Sonic 346 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:03.079 ones like blows all the rest of the music away. As far as I 347 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:07.839 can't argue that, even with being very anti anti Sonic and being pro Sanic 348 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.680 Cornell, like, the music in Sonic is very iconic and very good. 349 00:21:12.720 --> 00:21:18.599 Nintendo reassures fans more in sixty four games will be added to Switch Online. 350 00:21:18.640 --> 00:21:22.200 This is by Liam Doolin from Nintendo Life. Nintendo last week's surprise Switch Online 351 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:26.160 expansion pack subscribers with the announcement of Pokemon Puzzle League, but we're now at 352 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:30.559 a point where we don't know what's coming next, even Japan's lineup has now 353 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.400 been completed with the release of the first two custom Robo games. This has 354 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.440 got some fans wondering how much longer Nintendo will will continue to support the Nintendo 355 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.839 sixty four Expansion Pack library. Fortunately, there's no need to panic. The 356 00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:47.720 company today issued a message via social media reassuring fans it will continue to deliver 357 00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:51.480 in sixty four games and the message is in six Nintendo sixty four games will 358 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:57.119 be added to Nintendo Switch Online plus Expansion Pack. Stay tuned. I wonder 359 00:21:57.240 --> 00:22:02.039 what inside Nintendo like convinced and they needed to send this tweet. Very why 360 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.359 did they need to tell us that more we're coming. I just assumed that 361 00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.799 more we're coming. What is happening here? Uh? This is them being 362 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:12.559 like more are coming, yeah later, right, very much later? This 363 00:22:15.319 --> 00:22:18.720 yeah yeah. And that tells me of like, we're not going to hear 364 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.519 anything major for a while, and the next things that we will hear are 365 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:26.680 going to be like the weird smaller games that like, you know for the 366 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.599 nes online and s and as online, where it's like, why are you 367 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.799 still adding these games when there's all of these other like Prime Nintendo games on 368 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:38.640 these consoles that you could be adding, but you're adding like Golf three on 369 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:44.839 the NS for whatever reason two years later. So that's what that tells me. 370 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.640 Like where like the big next big update is going to be like Tonic 371 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.240 Trouble from the n sixty four made by Ebisoft and not Rayman or something like 372 00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:57.400 that or not or Wave Race sixty four or d K sixty four, which 373 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.079 I know they own the license, do they Like People are like, well, 374 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:04.799 Barrett, it's it's a you know, a Rares on there that but 375 00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:08.079 also you know they also re release d K sixty four for the WEU, 376 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:11.400 so like they have it, they have right for that. Yeah. Yeah, 377 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:15.200 so it's not like they can't because Rare made it. Like god it 378 00:23:15.279 --> 00:23:21.240 they're Nintendo is the weirdest when it comes to this stuff. It's I don't 379 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:25.599 know what they're like the behind the scenes of like why they're making the decisions 380 00:23:25.599 --> 00:23:27.440 that they make. They don't even like I'm not even a Diddy Kong racing 381 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:30.200 guy, but I'm pretty sure it's didd Kong racing even on there. No, 382 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.039 it's one I always thought it was and then we went back and look 383 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:36.519 like five times, like I finally, no, it's not on there, 384 00:23:36.559 --> 00:23:40.200 but you know, they clearly have a deal with Rare. They talked to 385 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:44.000 Pancho KAZOOI I do think Golden Night does end up there in some form eventually, 386 00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:47.000 but really, yeah, I think that's being held up because of the 387 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:51.319 war. So like the you know, the Russian content, Okay, okay, 388 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:53.640 yeah, so I think right, so it's like, you know, 389 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:59.359 there's a lot of Russian military iconography in the Golden Eye, and so they're 390 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:02.240 like, oh, we probably should hold off, and we're dealing with Microsoft, 391 00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.440 and neither company wants to embarrass the other one. But you know, 392 00:24:04.559 --> 00:24:08.559 also, I'll guess is that game's what twenty thirtieth anniversary, Probably the thirtieth 393 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:15.319 anniversary's twenty fifth anniversary, and so maybe that's possible it comes out in August. 394 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:17.960 I have no idea at that point, but uh, you know, 395 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:21.000 there are a lot of games that are obvious and do still need to come. 396 00:24:21.240 --> 00:24:22.799 And it's like, yeah, are we are we at a point where 397 00:24:22.799 --> 00:24:26.480 they are going to take a significant break? I hope not, but it 398 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.200 does seem like that's one of the reasons they might say this if games are 399 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:33.680 still coming. It's very much of like please clap energy, right, it's 400 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.480 like all right, and send where are we? Where are we going from 401 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:41.680 here on out? Because it does feel like when we get to Pokemon Puzzle. 402 00:24:41.799 --> 00:24:45.240 You can no hate to Pokemon puzzly because I do hear from friends that 403 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:48.160 it is a very fun game, good game. But like when you're getting 404 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:52.839 to that level of like the Pokemon games on the end sixty four, it's 405 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.240 like, all right, so we're we're going nowhere else from here, right, 406 00:24:56.279 --> 00:25:00.279 Like that's where that's the level that we're out of releasing these game. 407 00:25:00.400 --> 00:25:03.359 So yeah, and again like excite, like sixty four a game they should 408 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.519 have zero I mean, okay, Site Bike and wave Race. Maybe there 409 00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:11.400 are some licensing issues with like Kalisaki or something, but they've released those before 410 00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.680 in the past and figured it out, so I would hope they would just 411 00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.319 figure it out here as well. But get the true best racing game on 412 00:25:18.319 --> 00:25:21.799 the N sixty four a wave Race on there at least come on Wave Races, 413 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:26.160 probably the honestly the best in sixty four game. I think maybe all 414 00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:30.640 right, let's see here. EA is patenting a way to generate content based 415 00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:37.000 on playstyle. This comes from Chris Scollion at VGC EA has filed a patent 416 00:25:37.039 --> 00:25:41.039 for a technique that generates in game content based on how our player approaches a 417 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:45.839 game. The patent application, titled Persona Driven Dynamic Content Framework, was originally 418 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.440 published in April, as spotted by opi Attack, and was republished this month 419 00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:55.119 as spotted by exputer. According to its description and supporting diagrams, the patent 420 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:59.359 is for a system that determines a player persona based on gameplay information for the 421 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:04.119 user. It then, for example, performs dynamic content generation or additional product 422 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:10.279 recommendations based on the player persona. Barret, I gotta say, reading this, 423 00:26:10.440 --> 00:26:12.839 I kind of assumed all this stuff was already happening a little bit, 424 00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:17.240 right, So when you were reading this, I was just like, so 425 00:26:17.359 --> 00:26:21.799 is EA making like a third party persona game? Like keep saying, yeah, 426 00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.480 that's getting me like not really excited because it's ta Yeah. It's interesting 427 00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.039 that, Like when I was reading this before we started the show, it 428 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.599 did feel like a this does feel like something that like EA was already doing. 429 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:41.200 The The idea of it is interesting. I think for things like like 430 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:47.640 rogue lights and stuff like that I very much am into and rogue lights for 431 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:52.839 me personally, are things that or like, what is it like randomly generated 432 00:26:52.880 --> 00:26:59.799 things that a little bit yeah, procedual generation, but now procedural generation based 433 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:03.440 on your play style I think is an interesting concept. But I'm very much 434 00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.799 of like, I really like curated experiences, so it's one of those. 435 00:27:06.920 --> 00:27:10.319 It's like, it is very much like, yes, we're in twenty twenty 436 00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:12.920 two and they're coming up with, like is super just like really weird things 437 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.440 to test out with game development stuff like that. But yeah, I'm surprised 438 00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:22.960 it's not already something that they're like that they've been implementing, which yeah, 439 00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:30.359 yeah, which is weird. Personas included in the example include Explorer, competitor, 440 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.000 collector, Support, combatant, tank slash, lead commander, and completionists. 441 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:37.839 And basically I think of this sort like the AI just could watch Thank 442 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.880 Yourself. I'm a combatant, right exactly. It reminds me of that old 443 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:45.720 Xbox Alive like three sixty like what like what, oh my god? That 444 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.960 unlocked to memory? Are you competitive or are you underground? Are you a 445 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:53.119 family gamer? Like whatever, whatever the hell they were called. It reminds 446 00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.359 me of that. But after determining this stuff, it's like, okay, 447 00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.559 well, if you fit into one of these personas. We know that it's 448 00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:03.160 more like you'll like this game. So obviously this is talking about advertising games 449 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.759 with marketing games to you, which, of course it is like that is 450 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:10.079 the number one thing they're trying to do is sell people who buy games more 451 00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.200 games. But then it's also, yeah, they do. They do talk 452 00:28:12.200 --> 00:28:17.640 about, hey, procedural generation could lead to specific content being aimed at you, 453 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.039 and I don't I get that. I like that to a certain extent. 454 00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:23.519 I'm someone who has had an interesting idea, for sure, but it's 455 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.720 also like, I know what you mean about curated experiences, but I almost 456 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:33.359 want like it means more to me if I choose my own path. And 457 00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:36.400 yeah, maybe I do fit into one of these personas, but all the 458 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:38.519 other stuff in the game kind of needs to be there as well for me 459 00:28:38.599 --> 00:28:41.000 to ignore it. Do you know what I mean? Like, by ignoring 460 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:44.960 it, I am like defining myself and I don't want the game to be 461 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.640 like, oh, well we've defined you, so now the game will just 462 00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:49.960 be all that stuff you like, you're helping the game put you in a 463 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:53.160 box, Jeff Grab, And if there's anything Jeff Grab does not want to 464 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:56.440 be put in the box, speaking of which I just love that. Dan 465 00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.799 Ryker. In response to you saying Wave raises the best game on sixty four, 466 00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.799 he responded, that's the most insane thing you've ever said. I mean, 467 00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:11.960 listen, I will defend that Waiver sixty four and whatever fea it feels 468 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.640 so good. It's it's probably the best feeling game on any platform of that 469 00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.799 generation. It feels incredible. To this day, it still feels one of 470 00:29:18.799 --> 00:29:23.440 the ones that like, uh like still feels good to play, even after 471 00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.119 all this time. Because a lot of earth it's inexcusable, he says, 472 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:33.559 it's inexcusable. In excuseable, I mean, we know that DK sixty four 473 00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:36.640 is actually the best game on there, but again, just feeling, I 474 00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.359 get it, I get the argument. Jeff, Yeah, thank you. 475 00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.000 I appreciate it. Thank you for coming to somewhat of my defense. I 476 00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:45.160 appreciate it. I expect he A to do more with this, but like, 477 00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:47.759 this is the kind of thing where I see a patent and I, 478 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:49.160 like I said, I think, I'm like, I bet they're already doing 479 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:55.440 some stuff like this. That's definitely truth, Like, uh, Blizzard would 480 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:56.640 do the thing where like they patented it. Hey, we're gonna make it 481 00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:02.079 so we we you make more connections, you are communicating with people online. 482 00:30:02.119 --> 00:30:04.279 I'm like, I'm pretty sure you've done that for years because I remember playing 483 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.640 Overwatch and always getting matched with other people randomly that had the name grub or 484 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.119 I would type in chat like I would make some reference to like RuPaul's Drag 485 00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:15.400 Race, and then all of a sudden, I look and like half the 486 00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.880 people on my team would have names of drag queens from RuPaul's Drag Race. 487 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:22.559 But what is going Like I just talked about that now that and maybe it's 488 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:26.359 like coincidence and I'm just and it's a confirmation bias or whatever, but I 489 00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:32.319 don't think so, I really really don't listening. It would so benefit like 490 00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.559 a game like that to make you have good social experiences because that's what keeps 491 00:30:36.559 --> 00:30:38.720 you playing for longer. So why wouldn't they have been investing in that stuff 492 00:30:38.759 --> 00:30:45.599 for a very long time? But yeah, we'll see micro. Microsoft's Activision 493 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:48.559 buyout could be approved by the FTEC as soon as next month. This is 494 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:53.920 from Chris Scullion at VGC. The FTEC asked Microsoft in Activision Blizzard for additional 495 00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:59.759 information in March as it continue to review their proposed acquisition deal, and according 496 00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:04.279 to paywalled merger news provider deal Reporter, Microsoft has now provided the FTEC with 497 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.000 the information it was looking for. As noted by the ftec's own guidance, 498 00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.480 this means the body now has thirty days to challenge the acquisition, otherwise the 499 00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:17.480 deal can continue. There are some caveats to this, and this is important 500 00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:22.079 and why it might close. It also very well might not, and it's 501 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.960 just as a reminder. Originally Microsoft said this deal will probably take about eighteen 502 00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:29.359 months, which takes it into like Juno next year, So there are some 503 00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:33.119 caveats to this. As the ftec's guidance on the process points out, both 504 00:31:33.119 --> 00:31:37.160 companies have to provide the required information before the thirty day countdown can begin. 505 00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:41.039 It's not clear yet whether Activision has provided its share of the requested information. 506 00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.680 If not, the thirty day window will presumably only begin when that happens. 507 00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.240 This feels like to me, this still feels pretty inevitable. Barrett, Where 508 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:53.400 are you at with it? I know a lot of people are still growing 509 00:31:53.440 --> 00:32:00.000 more skeptical of if it's actually going to go through. I think there's no 510 00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:06.400 way it doesn't go through in our modern times ruled by capitalism, it's only 511 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:12.480 gonna be it's gonna only benefit those ideals of you know, just uh, 512 00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.599 you know, growth, growth, growth, growth, and growth. Because 513 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:21.759 the argument is of you know, like it feels like a monopoly, but 514 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.279 you know, the other argument is like, oh, well there's still competition, 515 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:28.279 right, and so I think that is going to be the thing that's 516 00:32:28.319 --> 00:32:31.079 like, yeah, there's no way this doesn't go through at this point. 517 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.319 It'll be interesting to see, Yeah, if like, if you know, 518 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:40.200 this thirty day countdown actually begins anytime soon. I feel like because activism Blizzard 519 00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:45.039 is still technically its own thing, and all of the fires that they're continuing 520 00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:51.480 to put out over there and trying to you know, give them information about 521 00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.200 you know, like what the FTC wants. I wonder like what specifically they're 522 00:32:55.279 --> 00:32:58.960 they're looking for when it comes to that, and like what they need to 523 00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.400 provide, and there might be something there or they need to kind of get 524 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:07.440 their ducks in a row before they actually provide that information. So I wonder 525 00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:14.119 if that's what Xbox was almost like antics or Microsoft was anticipating with like acquiring 526 00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:19.240 them, knowing and understanding where they're at as a company right now, and 527 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.279 knowing that maybe the process is going to take a while because of their end 528 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.519 of things, and so that like, yeah, we could see it next 529 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:31.440 month, but I would be surprised if it happens before the end of this 530 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.240 year, you know. Yeah, So yeah, we are what like almost 531 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:37.519 six months from when the deal was announced, right, it was very early 532 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:42.359 this year or something like that. So yes, the end of this year 533 00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:44.680 at the earliest is kind of where I'm out where I'm right there with you. 534 00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.519 Yeah, it could happen anytime between now and then if everything goes smoothly, 535 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.000 But I would expect the FTC actually to bring up at least one or 536 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.480 two more objections and stuff like that, saying, hey, in this new 537 00:33:55.480 --> 00:34:00.799 material, we're just can you clarify some things. I think they to appear 538 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.079 like they are being more dogged about this stuff. But also I think there's 539 00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:12.840 a strong chance that the consolidation that these these watchdogs are worried about is somewhat 540 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:16.199 going to, at least in their eyes, solve itself. With the industries 541 00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:22.199 being so now worried about their their future and worried about the recession and worried 542 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:24.559 about cost cutting all this stuff, and so instead of spending all their money 543 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:29.920 on trying to acquire new businesses, they're probably gonna use that money to shore 544 00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.559 up everything else. And a lot of these acquisitions are probably going to slow 545 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.960 down here pretty soon and at least, and I think that's the to them, 546 00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.320 that's like, well, then that's out of our re election cycle. 547 00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.400 So we're gonna wash our hands of it, and we're not gonna worry about 548 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.079 it because until it's actually a problem again, and so they'll probably be like, 549 00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.679 Okay, let this one just go by. No one actually cares about 550 00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:51.679 this anymore. Everyone's too busy worried about gas prices. What's your face? 551 00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.000 What's your face? Really cares about it though. Elizabeth Warren, Yes, 552 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:58.039 Elizabeth Warren, it's really key. Her eyes could grasp on it too. 553 00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.079 She's she noted it like specifically, she didn't say monopoly, because this would 554 00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:05.239 not have been a monopoly. She said monopsony, which is the idea that 555 00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.480 there's one buyer in a market instead of one seller in a market. And 556 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.800 the idea will be like, Okay, all these developers are creating games, 557 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.000 and if they want a chance to succeed. There's one buyer, Microsoft and 558 00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.280 you have to go through them. Even that's like, we're really far away 559 00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.559 from that. But this is clearly everyone sees like, oh, this is 560 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:22.559 maybe on a path to that happening. It's not really we I think we 561 00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.440 all know in our hearts that like gaming only sort of ads business models, 562 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:30.239 it never really nothing really goes away forever, Like we're still going to be 563 00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:35.119 buying physical games in one way or another for forever while digital games continues to 564 00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:37.719 grow alongside it and all that stuff. So and so, yeah, I 565 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:43.320 think that she's right though, to get a little bit talking about this stuff 566 00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.159 and to say let's actually look into it, and that's what's happening still, 567 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.000 and it's going to continue to happen until the deal actually goes through, which 568 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:54.159 I agree it seems inevitable, all right. Numerous Pokemon Scarlet slash Violet details 569 00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:59.079 and images leak from an anonymous source. This comes from Quince at Go Nintendo. 570 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.800 More and more supposed leaks regarding the upcoming Pokemon Scarlet and Violet have been 571 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.960 servicing online over the past week. As usual, none of these are verifiable, 572 00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:12.920 but they're being shared by multiple accounts and definitely had some have some traction 573 00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.920 in the Pokemon community. The source of the leaks is an anonymous Twitter account 574 00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:21.480 who has become known by most as mister k but who changes his handle on 575 00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:23.480 a regular basis to avoid getting too much attention, which I have to say, 576 00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:28.199 if you're trying to avoid get into attention, leaking Pokemon stuff is not 577 00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.239 the right way to do that. You're kind of get attention. The majority 578 00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:35.599 of these leaks come in the form of extremely blurry screenshots, which I'm not 579 00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:37.519 going to show here because they are extremely blurly and blurry, and also I'm 580 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.719 just Pokemon Company. It's kind of a notorious I don't want to deal with 581 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:44.280 them, but you can't see enough in there anyhow, So it's like, 582 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:45.960 if you want to go look for him, go for it. But there's 583 00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:50.519 just most of the interesting detail comes from some of this like bullet pointed list 584 00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.840 that I'll get to in a second. Including these screenshots are images of new 585 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:58.639 Pokemon evolutions, gym leaders, and more. There's also some unconfirmed info regarding 586 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:04.920 the new games structures, features and options, and that includes gems will be 587 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:08.119 able to be completed in any order, although their difficulty won't change no matter 588 00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:12.400 when when you attempt them. There will be around four hundred Pokemon in the 589 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.280 regional Poke deecks. No previous generation starters will be included. A special new 590 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:22.719 item will give Pokemon a crystal aura boosting a single type for use in battle 591 00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.119 temporarily. So okay, I'll tell you the things that stand out to me 592 00:37:27.559 --> 00:37:31.159 is being able to complete gems in any order and having no previous generation starters 593 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:36.840 included. That seems pretty wild. Uh yeah, the no previous generation starters 594 00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:43.119 being included is pretty insane because they love putting chariz Ard and Charmander into every 595 00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:45.320 single Pokemon game, which I don't blame them for. He's still the best 596 00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:50.599 Pokemon, but I kind of like that. Like that they're like, hey, 597 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.599 like, let's try to focus on a little more of the newer stuff 598 00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:59.920 and you know, not try to rely so much on the classics that everybody 599 00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:04.840 loves. Know you were you old enough to be part of Like when the 600 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:07.239 Transformers movie came out and they're like, we're gonna kill off all the old 601 00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:09.920 ones, so you have to buy the new toys, and that didn't work 602 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.119 very well. So we're talking about the Shile of Booth movie. No, 603 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.159 okay, no, the animated movie from the eighties. Yes, so I 604 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:20.840 was born Jeff grop I was born in nineteen ninety five. Okay, just 605 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:22.519 makes you feel a little old. So, yeah, I grew up with 606 00:38:22.599 --> 00:38:27.840 the shild of Boof movie. But I do remember. I do remember watching 607 00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:31.599 the animated Transformers movies at a movie as a kid, but it was like 608 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.280 it was blurs at that point. It was blurs. The whole idea of 609 00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:37.880 the movie is like, oh, you have all these toys from the first 610 00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:42.039 generation that everyone loved, and now we're gonna do a movie. But we're 611 00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:44.519 doing a movie. We gotta get our money's worth. We're a toy company, 612 00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:46.119 God damn it. So we are going to kill off all those whole 613 00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:51.519 characters to introduce a whole new crop of awesome characters hot Rodimus Prime or whatever 614 00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.079 Rodimus Prime. And it just did it didn't It didn't work very well. 615 00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:57.639 I think Pokemon has been around long enough that it kind of can work a 616 00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.599 little bit, but it definitely seems like that's what they're doing again, like, 617 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:02.480 hey, we have new Pokemon to sell new toys, right, yeah, 618 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.960 exactly, And you know, I don't blame them for that. And 619 00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:09.880 I'm also just like personally excited to just get get attached to some more new 620 00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:15.360 Pokemon, hopefully that aren't based off of key chains and ceiling lamps and so 621 00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:21.119 yeah, the exciting thing definitely is being able to complete gyms in any order. 622 00:39:21.800 --> 00:39:23.840 You know, there's speculation about, you know, are are they doing 623 00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:30.360 the capture Pokemon capture system that we saw in Legends RCS where it's a little 624 00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.920 more open you can actually sneak around and like catch the Pokemon. At least 625 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.599 I think that's what's implied. I don't know if Nintendo actually confirmed that's what's 626 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.760 going on in that game from the trailer, but then also including gyms and 627 00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:45.119 stuff like that that we didn't really see in the Legends RCS and being able 628 00:39:45.159 --> 00:39:49.079 to complete in any order is awesome because it definitely it'll give you agency to 629 00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:52.239 really feel like you're going on your Pokemon journey rather than you know, I'm 630 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.719 actually going against what I said earlier of like I like a curated experience. 631 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.960 This is still curated to an extent, but know it's it's taking that curation 632 00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:04.840 in kind of like any order that you want, do you want your desserts 633 00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.599 first, or do you want you know, the actual mule first? And 634 00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:10.119 I'm into that, you know, you were yelling at kind of funny for 635 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.840 the slander. It gave link between worlds and link between worlds. That's like 636 00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.440 one of the cool things. It's like when you actually, I think, 637 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:22.360 get past the first three dungeons, you can complete any of the like the 638 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.000 rest of the seven dungeons and any order. And I thought that was like 639 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.639 a really smart way to actually feel like you're going on your own adventure rather 640 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.760 than link to the past, where it really feels like, all right, 641 00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:32.920 you went to this place, and now you go to this this place, 642 00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:37.000 and now you go to this place. So the fact that they're doing that 643 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:42.400 based on a property that is about kids going on their own adventure and finding 644 00:40:42.440 --> 00:40:45.960 their own way, I really dig that. So that makes me even more 645 00:40:45.000 --> 00:40:47.639 excited for this game, which I was already pretty excited about. Now I 646 00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.559 think I have noticed, like Kan Hiwen and Chat is pointing out, and 647 00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:53.519 I think some people are worried about this. I like this, but yes, 648 00:40:53.639 --> 00:40:57.880 you complete the gyms in any order, but they do not scale with 649 00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.400 your skills, so they like that last gym still gonna be very hard. 650 00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:05.760 You will probably have to have very powerful Pokemon. I kind of I kind 651 00:41:05.800 --> 00:41:07.760 of like that. I think that's like, oh, yeah, I want 652 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.800 I don't want it always to be this milk toast difficulty. I want to 653 00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:14.280 be like, oh, I've stepped into a place I don't belong yet. 654 00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:15.800 Can I push my way through? Can I figure out some stuff to do? 655 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:19.239 You get to pull this off that works for me? Yeah, I'm 656 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:22.559 I'm personally like not like super against that too, Like you know, like 657 00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.760 you could go to Giovanni's gym first, but you know, is it gonna 658 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:30.119 be as easy as going to to Brox Jim. No, It's gonna be 659 00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:34.840 much harder. So I'm again I'm into that. And again it just it 660 00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.360 gives a little bit of the set dressing of feeling like you're going on your 661 00:41:37.480 --> 00:41:40.440 your own adventure there. So I'm into it, even though if, like 662 00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.800 you know, I get to the really hard gym area first and it gets 663 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.400 really scary, I'm probably gonna run away like that really big what was it? 664 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.360 The what's the really big pony Pokemon and legends rsist that you see like 665 00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.480 right when you turn yes, yeah, and then you run away because it's 666 00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:01.679 really scary. So that's that's one of the best moments in games this year 667 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:05.079 is when I saw that Pony too, and I was just like, I'm 668 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.159 scared and somewhat excited at the same time. What's happening? All right, 669 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:13.199 let's get to the ketchup where we talk about what everyone's talking about. I 670 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:15.440 kind of wanted to give everybody quick up. They here, Bungie has officially 671 00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:20.719 joined PlayStation So that was always going to happen. That deal has gone through 672 00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.960 and now it's completed. Bungee is part of Sony. They tweeted. We 673 00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:28.599 are proud to officially join the incredible team at PlayStation. We are excited for 674 00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.199 the future of our company, and we are inspired to bring together players from 675 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:36.880 all over the world to form lasting friendships and memories. So yeah, not 676 00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.079 like, not much new news here, but it is say, this is 677 00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.719 the beginning of that relationship, and I would expect very quickly for Sony to 678 00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.519 do what it does, which is take the expertise of one of its teams 679 00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:52.199 and they get the global expertise of every developer at Sony. Right, Yeah, 680 00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:57.800 especially with you know them saying, oh what was it not games as 681 00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:01.000 a service. What's the all the games that they have and development live service 682 00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:07.039 games right that they're doing, and uh, does Bungee count Bungee working on 683 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:10.039 Destiny? Does that count underneath all the live service games that Tony is working 684 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:14.199 They actually specifically have said that it doesn't count, so like they're doing more 685 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:17.159 beyond that, yes, And so it's an exciting moment for them to finally 686 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.639 get you know, Bungee actually like in the door, to be like, 687 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.519 hey, this is all the live service stuff that we're doing. Maybe some 688 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:28.599 things are on fire. Can you help us? Because you guys know what 689 00:43:28.639 --> 00:43:32.440 you're doing for sure. You know, if you ask a certain Destiny fans, 690 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:35.320 and if you ask other Destiny fans, they're like, no, they 691 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:39.719 absolutely no idea what they're doing. And so I think it's definitely just an 692 00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.119 official exciting moment to you know, have Bungee be a part of the team 693 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.639 and you know, coordinate with other studios about like what they're working on for 694 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:52.599 the future of police station live service games, which will be interesting and if 695 00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:57.159 hey, if like you know, just like a little pushes here and there 696 00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.320 from Bungee to to other studios to help them out and figure out some ideas 697 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.199 like that makes me at least a little more excited for what the future of 698 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.280 live service for PlayStation looks like. Again, I'm more of like a single 699 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.639 player, curated experience type of guy, but I did get into Destiny too 700 00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:17.800 real hard. They did it definitely like have something special, not special enough 701 00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:22.400 to like really get me in what is it four years later or whatever it 702 00:44:22.480 --> 00:44:24.800 is, how long or how long ever that game has been out, But 703 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:30.760 they do know what they're doing, and so I'm it makes me a little 704 00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.239 more hopeful. Whereas like if this bungee thing wasn't happening, and if it 705 00:44:35.320 --> 00:44:37.760 didn't happen and PlayStation was like, hey, we're working on a bunch of 706 00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:39.920 live service games, we'll be like, oh no, Like they were gonna 707 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.800 have to go they were gonna have to go through that learning process like you 708 00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:44.880 were saying, they were gonna have to like do it the hard way. 709 00:44:45.079 --> 00:44:47.840 And now there's sort of no excuse you kind of can't. Like you you 710 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.719 paid this money specifically to bypass doing things the hard way. So when your 711 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.079 live service game launches, your big life service games again like coming out, 712 00:44:55.880 --> 00:45:00.320 I don't really want to see that growing pains period I still expect that to 713 00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.679 happen a little bit though, because it's so difficult. Even when when with 714 00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:07.440 Bungee, it's probably still gonna happen, but you would hope that they would 715 00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.440 be able to bypass that. Weis Man also points out in the chat live 716 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:13.960 service games equals games as a service. I know, but I wanted to 717 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:17.880 specifically use their wording for it, because, yeah, so the games of 718 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.960 the services as a term that has sort of been deprecated by most of the 719 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:25.719 industry. They don't sort of say that anymore, although because I was like 720 00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.239 the early term before, like everyone's like, what's the more slick marketing term 721 00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.440 live service? And now they let even say that anymore either, they say 722 00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:37.519 living games. Okay, real quick. John Rictello apologized. He wrote a 723 00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:42.599 big apology for what he said. We talked about this. I kind of 724 00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:44.239 felt like, yeah, of course he was gonna do this. He was 725 00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:46.880 getting a lot of hot water for basically recap for anyone who might not have 726 00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:52.199 listened to the show last week. He said that the debs were fucking idiots 727 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.119 if they're not considering monetization from the beginning of designing their game. He said 728 00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:00.639 it in a way that was like, I'm arguing with my friends and then 729 00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:04.320 I think you're a fucking idiot. My friend, now he's agree with a 730 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:07.800 group of people that don't I think, consider him to be their friend. 731 00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.800 So it was like this weird. So it's one of those things where like 732 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.519 the boss things of themselves as one of the worst. They don't they don't 733 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.960 they can't read the room and realize that they're the boss. So like that's 734 00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:25.199 that feeling is not reciprocated. It's the classic Michael Scott scenarios. Yes, 735 00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:30.280 I think that a lot of you know, a lot of white men who 736 00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:36.559 fail upwards in life, who can't read the room correctly in big corporations. 737 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.920 So that's that's what we call that in a in a professional industry terms. 738 00:46:40.400 --> 00:46:45.360 Yes, exactly. He's got like a bull pointed list. He who says 739 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.159 that first, I have a great respect for game developers, and then goes 740 00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:51.599 on say, second, game developers working incredibly hard, and I should have 741 00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:55.159 really recognized that. Third, sometimes all a game developers want to do is 742 00:46:55.400 --> 00:46:59.519 have a handful of friends enjoy a game. I think I was probably a 743 00:46:59.519 --> 00:47:01.960 common thing, but I also know for a fact that's not who he was 744 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:06.199 talking to. He was not talking to the people who were responding like I 745 00:47:06.239 --> 00:47:07.679 don't care. I just want like like handful of people play by game. 746 00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:10.400 I don't care if it ever makes any money. That's not who he was 747 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:13.960 really talking to. But fair enough and then forth. What I was trying 748 00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.280 to say and clearly failed at same is that there are better ways for game 749 00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:20.639 developers to get an early read on what players think of their game, to 750 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.719 learn from their feedback, and if the developers wants, if the develop developers 751 00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.119 want to adjust the game based on this feedback, it's a choice to listen 752 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.440 and act or just to listen. Again, both are very valid choices. 753 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:34.599 If I had been smarter in choosing my words, I would have just said 754 00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.920 this, we are working to provide developers with tools so they can better understand 755 00:47:37.960 --> 00:47:40.360 what their players think, and it is up to them to act or not 756 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:45.119 based on this feedback. Anyway, That's it. Lots of words and a 757 00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:47.280 sentence that I wish I had never said. So clearly he was like kind 758 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:50.679 of getting like, hey, John, this sucks. You have to go 759 00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:54.280 do something about this, and yeah, dead so gamers are made. You 760 00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:58.519 gotta apologize, even if you don't mean it, and in this specific case, 761 00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.199 the game developers are mad and there are our customer. They're the ones 762 00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:06.239 who we really make money from. Although by combining with Iron for Ryon Source 763 00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.320 whoever, now they're an advertising company, so their real product is going to 764 00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:12.639 be us in the long run. I don't know, I've lost track. 765 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:16.880 Uh Okay. New Xbox game pass titles as Dust Falls, Ashes of the 766 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:22.519 Singularity, Escalation and Watchdogs two are coming tomorrow on July nineteenth. On July 767 00:48:22.599 --> 00:48:28.199 twenty first, you can get Moto GP twenty two and Torments Tied Tides of 768 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:32.679 Newmanera and an Inside on July twenty nine. That's just a quick update. 769 00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:37.760 And then finally, the UK government says the games industry must act on loot 770 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:40.559 boxes or face legislation. I'm putting this in the ketchup because it feels like 771 00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:45.119 this is like a conversation we had years ago that a government is just sort 772 00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:47.719 of finally catching up with. But I'll just I'll read it real quick. 773 00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:51.800 On Sunday, the government called for the purchase of loot boxes to be made 774 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:55.360 unavailable to children and young people unless they are approved by a parent or guardian. 775 00:48:55.599 --> 00:49:01.599 While cultures, While culture Secretary Nadine Dories highlighted that she expects many companies 776 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:07.599 to do more to ensure children can't make purchases without parental consent. No formal 777 00:49:07.679 --> 00:49:14.159 actions has been taken to tighten restrictions around digital purchases, let's see doctor Joe 778 00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:17.280 Twist, CEO of Trade Body Yuki, said, as a responsible industry, 779 00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:22.880 we have committed to exploring additional ways to support players and parents to build on 780 00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:27.400 our existing work developing and raising awareness of parent parental controls. We look forward 781 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:30.639 to engage in closely with the government and other organizations in the Working Group and 782 00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:37.199 on the Video Games Research Framework. So this has got so many facets to 783 00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:39.719 it, but it's like, for the one part, this is the industry 784 00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:43.440 still saying, hey, we can regulate ourselves. Tell us what you want 785 00:49:43.480 --> 00:49:45.400 us to do, and we'll do it. And then there's the other thing 786 00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.199 of this is a conversation that really feels like it's past its prime in terms 787 00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:53.039 of there was a time when even just the threat of regulation could have done 788 00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:55.800 a lot of good, and it did. I think it did a little. 789 00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:59.480 But they were like at the time gamers were able to get loud enough 790 00:49:59.519 --> 00:50:02.480 to attract attention of a handful of people in government to say, yeah, 791 00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.719 we'll look into this, and I think that was enough to scare many of 792 00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.320 these companies away from the idea and had them look into other ways of doing 793 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:13.599 things. Now have loot boxes gone away entirely, of course not. FIFA 794 00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:16.719 still has them. A lot of games on mobile which may or may not 795 00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:21.320 be aimed at kids still have them, absolutely, but it does feel like 796 00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:25.280 the vestige of the way of doing things and not like the primary way of 797 00:50:25.360 --> 00:50:29.280 doing business for a lot of these companies. And you know that said, 798 00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:31.320 if people still feel like they needs to be regulated, yeah, go for 799 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.880 it. I think that's fine. I just think there is something indicative about 800 00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.559 This was a big problem five years ago and now the government's here to show 801 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:43.159 up and rest and save the day. Kind It was a big problem when 802 00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:46.079 Battlefront two came out, Yes, and the Sea of Disney was like, 803 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:50.440 what the hell are lootboxes? Yeah, and the industry kind of had to 804 00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.079 like figured stuff out. The Netherlands. I think it was the Netherlands that 805 00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:58.559 might have banned them, because there's a few others. Yes, Yeah, 806 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.360 because when you brought up the UK, I was like, I thought they 807 00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.280 did that already, but I guess it knows some other EU countries there, 808 00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:08.079 yes, and so uh yeah, I definitely feel like it's definitely you know, 809 00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:13.800 like you said, not entirely gone away, but it's definitely cooled down 810 00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:17.239 a little bit since like the especially the Battlefront to fiasco. I think that 811 00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:20.920 was like when the almost the industry as a whole kind of was like, 812 00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.000 right, oh, throw throw that away, throw that idea away, because 813 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.199 everybody's crapping on EA right now. We don't want to be them. We 814 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:32.039 don't want to be them. And it's like, and that's the way this 815 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:36.199 is really going to keep working. As much as it's an imperfect system. 816 00:51:36.800 --> 00:51:38.920 Uh, we found that, like lobby in our government, it's not nearly 817 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:44.519 as effective as getting really loud as gamers and saying, hey, this is 818 00:51:44.599 --> 00:51:47.000 if you make this choice under a capitalist system, I wish that going to 819 00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:51.360 fully true. Yeah, well yes, in every system, right, yeah, 820 00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:53.559 in every way, yes, But in gaming, these corporations are so 821 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:59.280 scared of risk and so scared of losing their reputation because they know it sticks 822 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:04.239 for decades. EA is still thought of as thea that was like the worst 823 00:52:04.280 --> 00:52:07.679 corporation in America. Or whatever two three years running. That stuff sticks for 824 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:10.519 such a long time, it's like really hard to undo. So they'll do 825 00:52:10.679 --> 00:52:15.360 everything they can to make sure they get off that track. If they're on 826 00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:19.280 the track towards becoming this this terrible entity that everyone used them as. So 827 00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:22.039 yeah, and now so they figure out other ways of doing it. We 828 00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.400 get battle passes, we get all kinds of other monetization schemes. And that 829 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.440 doesn't mean that this regulation isn't needed. Maybe it is. I think the 830 00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:37.519 I think the research does show that loop boxes aimed at kids are very very 831 00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:44.679 effective at getting them into this subconscious loop of dopamine receptors and their their brains 832 00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.280 aren't developed enough to sort of deal with what is happening to them. And 833 00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:50.400 so yeah, if you want to do something about that, yeah, go 834 00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:52.800 for it. And I hope it doesn't have any backward effect. But also 835 00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.920 if it does, the industry sort of made its bed and has to lay 836 00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:00.880 in it right right, all right. See, we asked a question on 837 00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:06.000 Friday, Let's go ahead and bring that up. Are you actively playing any 838 00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.559 free to play games? Forty nine point one percent said yes, fifty point 839 00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:14.519 nine percent said no. I bet many of the people who said no actually 840 00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:15.679 are and they just don't consider you free to play a game because I saw 841 00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:19.000 a lot of people are like, well, if you count Destiny maybe, 842 00:53:19.719 --> 00:53:22.960 well yes, play game. Yeah, And it's like, so where are 843 00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:25.239 you at with this period? Are you playing free to play games? I 844 00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:31.119 voted no because I remember voting on this on Friday, And that's because the 845 00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:35.840 key word there for me is active actively, right, you know, I 846 00:53:35.960 --> 00:53:39.320 played Fortnite once every few months with the rest of the KF crew, like 847 00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:45.079 on stream on content, not even for like my own like personal stuff. 848 00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:47.800 And then outside of that, like I picked up Knockout City, but that 849 00:53:47.880 --> 00:53:51.760 was also like right before it when free to play, and then that's been 850 00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.440 it for for free to play games. Like I'm not even really playing like 851 00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:59.199 Rocket League anymore or anything like that. So that's kind of where I'm at 852 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.840 personally with with free to play games. Not that I'm anti free to play 853 00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:06.719 it, but that's just you know, it's I'm looking for more again. 854 00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:12.159 The word of the day of kids is curate curated experiences doing cyber crimes on 855 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.719 my Steam deck, maybe hanging out with a very angry man who's about to 856 00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.880 have a sequel later this year. So yes, there you go. Yeah, 857 00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:22.440 every game's free. If you go to archive dot organ you're doing crimes. 858 00:54:22.519 --> 00:54:27.639 So yeah, there you go. All right, let's see I need 859 00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:29.559 to come up with a new one for this week. I was thinking maybe 860 00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:31.920 asking about about lou boxes. Let's do it. Let's just say, do 861 00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:36.159 you do you think the government still needs to do something about lou boxes, 862 00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:43.440 like the like the still needs to do something about lout boxes? Is everyone 863 00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:49.440 hearing this typing sound opera GX the browser for gamers? Uh? Yes, 864 00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:52.199 I think. I think it does a digital typing sound, which is the 865 00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.360 weirdest choice in the world, I think. But I'm whatever, I'm for 866 00:54:55.440 --> 00:54:58.079 it. I'm not gonna turn it off. I'm not gonna look how to 867 00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:00.239 turn it off. Yes they do. Yes, you guys can hearing. 868 00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:01.119 Oh my god, I use this because they're like, Okay, I have 869 00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:04.639 a separate browser just for news assets. So if you guys wanted to, 870 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:06.880 like I wanted to play a trailer for you, I could just have it 871 00:55:06.960 --> 00:55:08.760 in this one browser. And I just can't believe that they do that. 872 00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:12.000 They do this, so whatever, Okay, here we go, all right, 873 00:55:12.400 --> 00:55:15.599 Game mess Mornings. All right, there we go, let's tweet that 874 00:55:15.760 --> 00:55:22.360 and we'll talk about it tomorrow. Okay, Barrett. Where can people find 875 00:55:22.400 --> 00:55:24.039 you? Where can people hang out with you? On the Internet. People 876 00:55:24.079 --> 00:55:28.519 can hang out with me over on Twitter dot com at sad boy Barrett, 877 00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.519 where they can see me just tweeting about, you know, just a bunch 878 00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:34.719 of random stuff. You can find me over on YouTube dot com Slash kind 879 00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.639 of Funny Games, where again I'm a technical director for our game shows like 880 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.599 ps I Love You x ox so kind of Funny gamescast, kind of funny 881 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:45.000 ex casts, so on and so forth. You can also catch me over 882 00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:47.239 on twitch dot tv Slash kind of Funny Games every once in a while playing 883 00:55:47.320 --> 00:55:52.079 some Fortnite, maybe every once in a while playing a playthrough of a game. 884 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:54.239 You can go over to YouTube dot com Slash kind of Funny Plays, 885 00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:59.920 where you can find our entire play through series of the metal Gear Solid game 886 00:56:00.159 --> 00:56:02.840 one through four, which I've never seen before. Yeah, and so yeah, 887 00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:06.199 if you want to see my very first play through of metal Gear Solid 888 00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:07.480 one through four, you can check that out over there, which was a 889 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:12.519 fun time. Yeah. That was like me, uh, snowbike Mike tomorrow 890 00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.039 was on that blessing was on that. I think maybe Imron might have popped 891 00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:20.559 up a time or two. But yeah, that was a that was a 892 00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:22.719 really fun one. Go over there and check that out because I was. 893 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:25.360 That was a fun time. Will I ever play five? Maybe I have 894 00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:28.800 it on my Steam dec Yeah, it's good on the Steam deck. It's 895 00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.480 actually fantastic on the Steam decks. That's the way. Yeah, but you 896 00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:32.920 know its stream it too. We want we want watch you play it. 897 00:56:34.960 --> 00:56:37.679 It's an open world game though this time around, Jeff, it's gonna take 898 00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:39.639 so long to stream through it. Yeah, but it's like then you get 899 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.639 to see all the interesting decisions you make. It's so good. I'm actually 900 00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:45.960 gonna go to a meeting right now to find out what's going on Giant Bomb 901 00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.519 this week. But you guys know, we'll have the bomb cast tomorrow. 902 00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:52.079 Well have voicemailt dumb Trunk on Thursday, we have upf of some sort. 903 00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.000 On Friday, we'll decide all the rest. We'll gout for some quick looks. 904 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:59.559 We'll probably stream something I don't know. Checkout giant bomb dot com