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I'm okay. I just smoked another
till the face. Yeah, she want

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to stay singing to your beach.
I go with Jake, don't just trying

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to tell me you love me.
You can't keep it. Really, if

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you really don't trust me, you
come with a real you have been in

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the front, so you get my
meals. I'm conning for the money,

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money in the bank. Come on
with a dank screling that tank, rolling

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with the gang, you sitting on
the sideline trip and I'll go to the

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whole with the rock Lake pepper.
Yeah, I'm okay. What up though,

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Welcome to what whatever? It's Live
Sports dot Com. I'm easy,

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have spinboll rackx Yo, Young Chris
KG, Ben Johnson's back, Ben,

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let's go. I know we lost. KG called it, you called it.

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I believe Anson called it. It
was more man. It's felt too

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good to be true. I mean, like, this guy is one of

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the best play callers in the league. I thought he for sure. I

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mean he was supposed to got a
job. This is Secon dream listen.

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I know we lost the NFC Conference
Championship. I get it. Today felt

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like a w if. I probably
won something. Tody, I was almost

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happy enough to cry. It brought
me out of a out of a spiral.

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I was in a spiral downwards.
I'm not gonna lie. After that

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NFC Championship lost a lot of weights, hit was not feeling good, and

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Ben Johnson came back like Guardian Angel
and brought me up from the mud man.

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We didn't even have to do a
campaign. We didn't even have to

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do a spear case. He scared
himself, you know, I think he

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Yeah, I think he smeared himself. I think he smeared the self.

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Smear sounds weird, that sounds terrible, but I think it's just addictive.

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This year, this year's class being
really good. As far as head Coachry

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caid, it's like there was just
a lot of good head coaches around him.

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No, that's what I think.
I don't think that's what it is.

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I think it's Ben Johnson decide to
come back. Ben Johnson wants to

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wants to finish business. He went
about to smear himself. How about the

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fact that the Commander's brass was on
their way to Cold Detroit on a snowy

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day, having a snowy flight,
and they had to find out while on

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flight if they bought the wife,
I mean by the pride that they're multimillionaires

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whatever. But at to find out
on the flight that this man was staying,

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Chris, you got to read that
one, all right? Here it

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is this is it's basically what you
just said. Adam Schefter says. Commander's

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officials were en route to Detroit for
a meeting with Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn,

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and they got the word that Johnson
was staying with the Lions, per

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sources. While the abrupt privot pivot
by Ben Johnson was considered surprising by several

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league sources, he was not considered
a lock for the Commander's job, despite

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his strong reputation and the commanders and
a loyal coach, the Commander's leadership team

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remains eager to meet with the with
the respected Glenn, who is one of

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several candidates the team is expected to
consider for its head coach vacancy. So

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we're gonna get in a more about
Schefter in a little bit, I'm gonna

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talk about motherfucking Adam Schefter. I
got something to say, talk about that

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mother BlackBerry type of motherfucker, Adam
Schefter saying, you want me saying,

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now all right, Chris put up
the other one put put up, Chris

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put that ship on the board,
Chris. Adam Schefter, this Madam Schefter

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also put up Ben Johnson is not
coaching Locke. That people thought he was

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asking price spooked some teams, per
sources. So what was it, Schefty?

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Did his act asking price spooked some
teams or were they on the way

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to Detroit to interview him again,
Because that tweet coming out after Ben Johnson

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said I'm staying in Detroit, looks
like you're in the pocket. Looks like

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you're taking some money from buddy.
I don't know if it's owners. I

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don't know if it's gms, but
that looks like a GM texting. You

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said ship anyway, yeah, and
he's anyway anyway. That's what it looks

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like. It looks like you're backtracking. It looks like you're selling ass for

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these owners, for these gms.
Because Ben Johnson said, nah, I

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got shipped to do in Detroit,
I got a job to finish in Detroit,

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and Adam Schefter gets his BlackBerry Twitter
fingers out and starts saying, oh

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no, it was because he was
asking for too much money, or was

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it that they were coming to interview
him again because they really wanted him and

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they wanted to do an in person
in Detroit interview with him. What was

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it, Schefty? Which one pick
aside because it looks like you're pandering.

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It looks like you're pandering for ownership. It looks like you're you're covering the

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backs of these guys. After Ben
Johnson said, Nah, I'm good DC's

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trash. Anyways, I'm standing in
Detroit. I got a job to finish.

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That's what it looks like to me. I get it, you know,

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like Detroit Verus Bright type mentality.
We got to talk our ship to

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Chefty in front of the network though
shout out. But at the same time,

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I understand this man has like keep
his sources like he is well informed

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for a reason, right, you
kind of have to like you can't bite

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the hand that's feeding. They're like, Yo, we need you to,

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you know, help out this one. We give you this, We give

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you that. I'm saying like,
yeah, just don't call just don't call

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yourself a journalist. Yeah, that's
what that's what it is. He's an

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insider, which he is is a
lap dog, that's what he is.

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That's fair. He's a lap dog. He says what they want him to

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say. Remember he tweet out the
picture of JPPS again. Yeah, hand

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x rays or whatever it was.
If you lost the fingers in the firework,

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that was. That was a while
he worked by Chefty. This whole

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thing is just trying to break up
with somebody before they break up with you.

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Absolutely, that's absolutely. Literally,
it's the owners. We didn't we

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didn't want him anyways. He's not
even that good. He's asking for too

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much money. All right, but
right, all right, man, I

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was listen, you guys, I've
turned my my back at some point during

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the season. Now I've turned my
back, but I just I was just

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saying of Brad Holmes at a certain
point, a guy that I really believed

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in because I thought this was gonna
be the year because Ben John's leaving to

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come a head coach and we have
them another year. You guys, if

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you've watched, like I think the
last time we were at dis Boy,

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I started talking a little bit crazy, started using that as word super Bowl.

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It's it's fucking it's there, bro, it is. It is super

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It is if they make like the
right moves, if they if they make

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like a Jordan last run type of
situation, like bro, it could be

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done. It is, it could
be done. The expectations for next year

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for the Detroit Lions are super Bowl. I agree, nothing short of I

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don't care how crazy it sounds.
I don't care how I may personally feel

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about like the quarterback and himself and
his personal skill set. The expectation and

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goal is a super Bowl. I'm
putting that out right now. Don't don't

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try to owe you a wrong shit
like you guys this year I told you

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twelve five win a playoff game.
Don't try that bullshit now. I'm telling

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you expectation is a super Chris My
question, I don't know if you if

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we want to say this for a
whole Nther segment and get like deeper into

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the Ben Johnson thing, but where
my head went is last year. Okay,

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we we know that, you know
she will. She will put together

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a pretty hefty bag. We don't
know the bag, but it was a

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hefty bag to keep them to stay
this year. Do you think there's any

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type of promises so like drafting or
anything, because I do kind of think

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to an extent, like the first
round going offense more than we thought.

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Might have been some sort of underlying
agreement to keep Ben Johnson around. Do

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you think there's anything like that this
time around? They're they're very well.

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Maybe there was a tweet from Adam
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keeps tweet Twitter fingers. Now there
was a report that came out that no,

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there was no there was no raise
or nothing like that. It was

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a decision made on Ben Johnson's own. Now, that doesn't to say that

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something is going to happen, you
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when you fishally came back. I
know that we were saying, okay,

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this means we're going off its first
round. That does mean there's not gonna

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be an f three fifty with Dooley's
turbo Diesel dropped off of that mother drive

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away. They're gonna make sure Ben's
taking care of something. Ben. They're

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gonna make sure Ben's taking care of
man. And shout out to Shiela Ford

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Hamp, shout out to Rodwood,
shout out to Brad Holmes, shout out

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to Chris Fieldman for doing this not
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Making sure this guy is staying in
Detroit. He is the best offensive

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coordinator in the NFL for a reason, and he's staying in Detroit for another

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year to run at Lombardy. Take
a shot at Lombardy. I ain't talking

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Rocky. I love this. I
love this. I mean, y'all said

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it all. My thing is,
I think if we do go to the

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super Bowl and maybe maybe not win
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his his decision to State was influenced
by the Lions losing this game. So

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it's a glimmer of hope that we've
been hoping for it. Man, we

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didn't know what was gonna happen.
But just shout out to him just being

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loyal and boots to the ground,
ready to go back at this thing.

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Man. And I think they can
do it. I think they can definitely

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get back to that same spot next
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defense like I expect them to.
Watch out. Man, this this team

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could be feared. And that's something
we got come up today too. We

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got the list of top ten free
agents according to Adam Spielberger. I believe

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it is from PFF. We got
that position of need put the chat of

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the position you guys would like to
hear and yeah and be honest to like.

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The piece of it that I love
talking about the Shmer campaign is like

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that he didn't make the call while
they're on the flight to Detroit, like

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in some form of fashion that that
could be precededs on professionals, just like

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a slap in the face to billionaires. You know the guys that are the

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team good and yes, exactly good
Rich, let it be that. Fuck

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those guys. I hope they're pissed. I hope and listen to all due

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respective Ben Johnson, and I promise
you will take care from here if not

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the case, but I hope people
are less like I can hire him now.

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Yeah, I want this guy Detroit
for as long as possible forever.

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In my opinion, it's it's Kyle
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in the league. Sean McVay prior
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tweet out there earlier. A thing
that kind of goes under the radar with

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Ben Johnson returning to Detroit is that
Hank Frayley is also staying in Detroit.

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Because there were rumors that Ben Johnson
leaves, He's going to bring Hank Frayley

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to be his offensive coordinator. Hank
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Detroit Lions coaching staff. He has
coached the best offensive line in the NFL

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for a couple of years now,
so having him retained is also huge.

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I saw Decker posted on videos we
got a Frank Ragnew topic coming where he's

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contemplating things. And I'm sure having
in place the two coaches you report directly

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to and Hank Fraley and Ben Johnson
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Backs. Well, Allison was the
player interviews last night, and both

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Decker and Ragnall made comments about Hank
Frayley and in his future, Like Ragnew

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joked when we talk about today,
because some of it wasn't so much joking,

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some of it was quite serious about
his future, just not even as

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Detroit lionb as just as a as
a football player, because as we know,

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the injuries he's been battling through like
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we're most reminiscent with the back on
the injury report and the knee on the

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injured report. But let's not forget
about the whole situation we're deal with since

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last year. But we'll speak on
that a little bit later too. But

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Hank Frayley returned alongside of Ben Johnson, which I assume is the case.

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That's a big piece of it.
That's a big motivational factor. I mean

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that these are guys you're talking about, like Taylor Decker being here like the

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longest. Hank Fraley has been here
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Frank rag Now don't forget, used
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play guard, remember that. Yeah, And then they moved to the center.

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Same thing with Greg Glass and moving
him around too. Hank Frayley's been

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a part of that. We talked
about it last week, just who he

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is as a coach and how great
of a coach he's been in this organization

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because we have guys that literally played
a defensive end move over to like as

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a right tackle, Matt Nelson and
Dan Skipper moved from guard to tackle,

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all that stuff. Like, Hank
Frayley is a he's a huge piece,

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and he was rumored to be the
offensive coardter to Ben Johnson. That situation

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where to go down, that situation
not going down so assuming and Hank Freiley's

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staying and I'm here to celebrate.
I mean, I'm damne ready to get

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drunk. I'm that happy about it. Let me not you guys a glimmer

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of good news. Man, It's
the best thing that could happen to Lions

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fans in the next week. A
lot of people trying tiple the things Dave

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Campbell was saying, but no,
he meant them. This is a cohesive

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unit and they see it being successful
for a reason. Ben Johnson was a

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pivotal piece of it. Apologies,
No, it's just that's the best thing

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that could happen to the Lions fins
in the next two weeks. Just happened

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where Ben Johnson said, I leave
it right. You love that. You

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love to see that. I think
you guys are miss seeing the most important

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you know, the Hank Frankly.
So all that stuff is cute, but

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let's keep it real. This motherfucker
loves golf. Ben Johnson just can't leave

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them baby football. Soulmates, football
has worked it, they say, yeah,

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absolutely, Chris. If you want
to get some merch to celebrate the

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moment and heading to the football season, looking right, where was do that

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at? If you want to you
know, take a little bit of that

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Ben Johnson bag and drop it somewhere. I'll tell you where to go.

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That's what worth sports dot Com clicked
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I apologize looking at chat every time
I got a chat. That's what I

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myself smash that. Like Bud be
Friends, our friends should have stream Ben

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Johnson's back, Baby deser he is
back now. Chris, you asked an

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interesting question because last year he did
get a race, and last year we

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did grab Jamior Gibbs and then grab
same reporter. I feel like I think

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the same reporter pick was coming at
some point either way. I actually traded

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t J howkson a way. But
I guess, like I'll start with you,

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KG, like, do you think
there's anything I think it was promised

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to nix change him turns off as
your coordinator. You think it's just off

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the love or just not wanting to
go to see it. Well, see

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that was a great place to go
if it was on the table. I

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don't think it's anything promised to him
per se, but I'm sure she look

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out for him. And one thing
I didn't realize is that he has two

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years left on his deal, so
I mean, you know he could.

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I mean, this guy is probably
going to be a head coach, let's

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just be real. If not next
year, then maybe the year after that.

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But I think he was really determined
to get this job done with the

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Lions and this it's kind of the
same thing AG said, like he wanted

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to be the best Lions defensive coordinator
ever, and I know it ain't got

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off to the best start, but
you know, I feel like these guys

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are on the mission to accomplish something
here with this Lion's organization that that's never

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been done. Then you think if
they do do that, then that only

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helps them in Lama. Yeah.
Yeah, but no, I agree with

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you, KG. They're here for
a reason. They're here. They want

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to build this They have unfinished business
in Detroit. They talk about it all

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the time, that that was the
big thing at Hard Knocks. They both

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said, like, I want to
be the best coordinator in the history of

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the Detroit Lions. And it's showing
that Ben Johnson's turned down down multiple head

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coaching jobs because he wants to stay
in Detroit, because he wants to make

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things happen, because he wants to
chase the Super Bowl, because he believes

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in Dan Campbell. He believes in
the Detroit Lions, and he believes in

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this system. So I think it's
a great not only point to Dan Campbell

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as a leader, Dan Campbell as
a leader of men, and how he

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can get these guys to just keep
coming back when no other coach in the

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NFL could do it. Like you
see people leave Shanahan every year. You

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got your offensive coordinators leaving Shanahan every
year. You got dudes leaving Sean McVay

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every year. Like Shanahan, they're
in the same situation that chase Super Bowls.

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The Lions are Mike McDaniel calling like
they I would they're their own play

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callers, to be fair, Yeah, but still off, you know,

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branching off their lineage. And I
think that like, and I see if

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my man Tanner Restrand still taking an
interviews in Tampa Buccaneers for their office corner

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spot. I saw the same for
the New England Patriots. But it's like,

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if he doesn't, I'm staying,
if he doesn't get those jobs,

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I mean, you're still I guess
training him to eat that like tutelage,

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like your lineage of like you're playing
calling, which again is not Kyle Shanahan,

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is not Sean McVay. This's Ben
Johnson's. This is like his very

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own tree rooted by his like principles. And then someone makes Dan Campbells,

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who I believe that, you know, believe in similar philosophy. I don't

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think you returned here freely based on
that wasn't the case. Ay, It's

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a beautiful thing. And again it's
once more to touch on the Hank Frailey

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stuff, because we were talking,
we're gonna talk about Frank greg now and

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obviously Taylor Deker two being here in
such a long time. Those are pieces

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I'm not saying need to replace the
pieces need to be prepared to replace or

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at least in some form of exactly
right. So it's like, if we're

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gonna bring in young guys to eventually, you know, take home, were

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those those positions. I'm glad that
Hank Frailey is here to be part of

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that. I'm glad that Ben Johnson
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Even the Tenor Restaurant does day.
Like, like I said, I thought

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Hank Fraley was gonna become Ben's OC
just because of like the intricacies of being

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an offensive lineman and the Ben Johnson
run scheme. Like, I'm glad we

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had the two people who find was
a foundation of it be here to to

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learn these new guys, teach these
new guys to say learn that as a

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joke, though I don't want to
take that and run with them in the

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comm section. But I'm glad that
he's here for that. It's it's it's

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a beautiful thing, and it get
it's worth it. If you guys want

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to pop out a shot of something, I'm down those. Does did you

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ever find that? Nope? Yeah, yeah, yeah they got down.

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Hey, somebody wants to have a
bottle of Donnie Door dash at the bottle

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of don you know it takes some
I'm down, they're CAZy calls for it.

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I'm good. We could get him
easily to take it nowhere, I

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gotta work These guys got bad demons. Break out the bottom, right,

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I gotta work out after. I'm
not trying to throw up on the treadmill.

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Hey, who popp them? You
say here? Cry? I will

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fuck no. It's It's just a
beautiful thing for the Joe Lines organization.

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And I think as much as we
want to speak of like us sustained success,

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I guess we'll speak about two is. Like, I think it's more

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tangible now, it's more realistic now. It is it is because you've got

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that same recipe coming back. You've
got that that same yet, that same

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consensus, that continuity in your coaching
staff. The players see that too,

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so they're gonna be even more dialed
in like that. This is gonna be

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the first time in Jared Goff's career
that he has the same offensive coordinator and

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play caller and quarterbacks coach for what
three years in a row? Now,

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wow? Yeah, first time in
his career. So that is just going

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to bring more confidence. That is
going to breed more cohesion in the offense

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and let's run that ship back.
Frank, you could have my toes run

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it back. I will give him
my toes. You can have my toes.

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Yes, I might technology be able
to get robot toes and foot for

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the man I got signed fourteen,
so like, I don't know how big

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your feet are, but it's probably
good match. You can have my toes.

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I did see speaking an offensive lineman
and the offense and all the good

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stuff. Justin Rodgers put out of
an article where I guess Graham Glaspell has

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already been told that he's like a
pivotal piece they want to bring back for

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sure. So that's your brother,
mar Yes, shouts, always love to

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see one of my family members getting
paid. He deserves it, and he

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is a pivotal piece because what he
can do if Frank you know, miss

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his games or decides to call it
quits, he can move over and play

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that center role very very well.
Yeah, And is that fair the expectation

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of Super Bowl and or just NFC
championship? Is that fair? Okay?

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Absolutely, because we see him do
it with the same unit. Just think

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if they come back with a better
defense than what they had and keep this

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same offense, maybe even get better
because he he's gonna add more intricacies to

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this offense, you better believe it. And if they add maybe another weapon

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or too, depending on if they
resigned Reynolds or DPJ. Yeah. Man,

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there is no telling what this lie
his team could do, but that's

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absolutely the expectation. Why not?
And then listen to Dan Campbell speak about

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like just the you know, I
guess having that chemistry you guys down with

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keeping Josh Reynolds down too, I
mean yeah, I mean I'm not opposed

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to it. Like it depends how
much he's at. If you can get

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him for cheap, yeah, bring
him up. Do you guys think he's

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gonna bag elsewhere? No, I
think you could get more than he'd get

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with the Lions. But you go
somewhere, Yeah, if you want to

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get a five plus million dollars a
year deal, yeah, I'm sure you

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can get that somewhere to fair.
I mean, he's only been he's been

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elsewhere, he's been most productive here. Yeah, sure, you know,

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But I guess teams can always look
at that way. But I can't speak

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for other teams. I've had to
see what the lines brought him previously before,

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you know, Brad Holmes and Dan
Campbell. Then where we just grab

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a guy that was good. The
Patriots like, yeah, well we played

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here, so you must be work
here too, And then we get him

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there course to be fucking asked shout
the trade flowers, Flowers, how about

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Jamie Collins. Yeah, man,
man, thank god that's over. They

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literally drafted Giant to because they're like, oh, the Patriots, one of

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them. Let's good. He was
ass he's good on the Patriot. Yeah.

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I was about to say he was
a better player away from even kylev

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Annoy, and I'm not. He
was like an initial guy to us,

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and we drafted him. It's like, it's crazy. We had him with

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his teammate by the way to Ziggy
from BYU, thinking that's supposed to be

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the elite like past Rush and Barry
and Kyvinnoy was just unable to see the

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field for whatever reason. Ziggy was
all right. Yeah, Ziggy was straight,

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man. I loved Ziggy in his
prime, just his injuries they kicked

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him out. He was definitely.
He took me one hundred dollars once.

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I used to be the valet manager
down in Central Kitchen downtown and he came

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into Spot one night tip me one
hundred dollars. He was a cool dude.

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I remember meeting him. I had
to seen tickets back then. It

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was like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen
season. I remember meeting Ziggy and like,

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I just felt emasculated. Bro,
he's huge, He's a human man.

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I gave him a ball from up
from my nephew to sign and I

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was in his hands. I was
like, Bro, that guy could fucking

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squish my skull like a grape if
you wanted to. It's like it was

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wild. I was like, holy
shit, Yeah, Ziggy was dog Sue

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too well, I mean Sue.
I was like, yeah, because you

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think because he's eavyway you think a
little bits like ah muscle. This shit

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made no sense. I was like, what the f Like that was insane.

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No, I miss those guys.
But as you said, a couple

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more defensive pieces and we're talking about
Freecy here too. Hey, you might

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be talking he might be able to
cast that ship. Talk that and if

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Aaron Glenn does decide to move on
and get to the head coaching position,

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Mike Rabel's still up there. Yes
he is I have this question though,

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place you get compensation, don't you
Yes, you get conversation. Yeah,

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I have this question when it comes
like that, because obviously Mike Rabel's a

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great coaches going back to like with
Dan Chemil's at the cohesiveness, the chemistry.

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I even listened to your fan fan
with last week. It was like

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were last night. He was like, yeah, I mean, have you

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think down mentally? I got another
scheme now it's just like you know,

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perfecting the reps. Yeah, well
you bring like a Mike Rable, it's

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a totally different defensive style. Was
there any concern or I guess shifting or

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changing to that. No, that's
what happens. That's what happens. So

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what you got to do, it's
changing it up. Yeah. And I

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mean, well that's if it happened. If it happens, that's what you

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gotta do. If Aaron Gunn decides
to take that coaching positions, what you're

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gonna have to do is week Martin
Dale so out there. I know he

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left the Giants, don't know if
he signed elsewhere yet, and you still

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got John Fox as a defensive assistant. Yeah, that's too. He's I'm

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sure He's very pivotal in the in
the schemes. I mean even if I

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mean obviously rape is probably want to
I mean, did you guys ever like

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fall through and think about defensive coordinator
replacement for a G It was always the

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help was always veriable. But yeah, you know that almost I don't know

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if he's ready for that yet.
Would you take Riverboat as a d C?

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I would have minded it was crazy, have you lit? But when

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Dan was saying this kind of thing
is like, it's it's easy to fall

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back into average. That's a metia
I thought about, was Riverboat Ron.

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Yeah, with the Carolina Panthers going
to Super Bowl, had a cam has

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MVP season, they just fell into
mediaocrity. That's That's exactly the exemple that

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I think Dan was pointing to the
Ravens there from me too, after the

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Joe Flaggol situation, obviously they they
wanted off a win right there, like

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the road team in every playoff game
up to the Super Bowl, and obviously

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with the whole thing which like after
that is like the Joe Flack was he

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was on fire postseason and he just
never was the same. It's like,

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I see what he's saying that's why
I kind of like, I mean,

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I'm hoping AG returns. I know
there's a lot of people different about him.

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Yeah, I think I think he's
find getting the pieces that he wanted.

405
00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.559
You saw that not that he wanted, but finally think healthy talking about

406
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:26.079
CJJ and Afantine Lafal were like,
I think that's all we needed. Plus,

407
00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.000
like AG was saying, we're gonna
have some pieces. I mean,

408
00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.400
this is this is more likely because
of Ben Johnson's staying. Plus, I

409
00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:34.279
think you can now make that kind
of promise to Aaron Glenn that you maybe

410
00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:38.240
may have made to Ben Jonson last
offseason about hey, you know we got

411
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:41.880
the draft capital. Remember they have
a full war chest of assets. Like

412
00:25:42.039 --> 00:25:45.960
they didn't do anything at the deadline. They're they're in a great position to

413
00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:51.839
do basically anything they want, and
so those kind of promises can happen.

414
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:53.839
And obviously it makes sense. I
mean, when you're looking at the offense

415
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:56.440
for Ben Johnson, it's like,
who would you promise him to get?

416
00:25:56.519 --> 00:26:00.440
Like maybe a wide receiver, Like
offensive line is something that I'm sure,

417
00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.079
like you know Brad Holmes has on
his radar, but I don't see I

418
00:26:04.079 --> 00:26:07.240
don't see him making promises for a
running back and a tight end and all

419
00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:11.559
that like like we did last year. The offense doesn't need that many pieces

420
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.799
the defense does. I think you
can make that kind of promise Tarren Glenn

421
00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.880
that hey, we'll get you,
We'll get you a stud pass rusher or

422
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.119
corner or dB in a free agent, and then we'll get another one in

423
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:22.880
the in the first round of the
draft. And then you know that gives

424
00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:26.359
you a lot more to work with
and makes you more appealing next year.

425
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.319
Yeah, and Wilson, he says, Commisce Rabel's not coming to your period.

426
00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:33.279
Stop living in fantasyland. I usually
think of myself as a realistic Lions

427
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:36.119
fans. It's one of the reasons
I thought Bim was leaving. I thought

428
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:38.200
too good to be true for Ben
Johnson to return to eat your alliance he

429
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:42.000
did. Today, I'm living in
fantasy I don't give a fuck. Bill

430
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:45.200
Belichick might become our difference Cordon.
I don't give I'm living in fantasy land

431
00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:48.200
today, and I don't understand the
oh he's not going back to a coordinator

432
00:26:48.279 --> 00:26:52.160
position happens all the time. Dan
Winn did it, Arthin Smith ar the

433
00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:56.759
Smith did it this year like Jim
Schwart. Just because you were a head

434
00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.119
coach, what doesn't mean you're a
head coach forever. Dank Quinn went to

435
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.960
a Super Bowl and he went back
to being a DC like shit happens?

436
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:06.359
Man a bout of being by the
Boom brought up the same point. I

437
00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.319
said, I love Rabel, but
would you want to change the entire defense

438
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:11.759
for a guy who could leave after
one year for head coaching job. That

439
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:15.279
is a great points in terms of
changing the defense. Yes, if we

440
00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:17.200
have a chance at the Super Bowl, yeah, I would. Yeah,

441
00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.920
David Baxter, that would be mad
at Shepherd if he's ready. I'll be

442
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:23.680
cool with Shep too. I think
Shep's a great coach. Uh, to

443
00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:26.160
be honest with you, Actually,
forty gumbos in the same thing and he's

444
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.559
read this common then Shep has done
quite a bit and improving the linebackers area

445
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:33.680
over the year. Campbell has really
developed the year under him. I agree

446
00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:37.920
that Shep. Yeah, Shep is
definitely a candidate, like for DC a

447
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:41.759
DC position. I don't know if
he's ready for that responsibility yet. I

448
00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:45.000
mean, I'm sure Dan Campbe would
have got him. And yeah, but

449
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.160
in this situation he would be in
with guys around him, with a John

450
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.400
Fox to oversee it. That would
be a pretty good spot to kind of,

451
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:56.680
yeah, wean him into if you
have to, because John Fox being

452
00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:00.640
over there to help him through it
would definitely be something that could help inexperienced

453
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.319
guy because he doesn't have many years
as a coach, let alone a DC.

454
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:08.599
So I love Shep and I think
he is definitely on the track to

455
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.839
be a defensive coordinator in this league
at some point, but I'm not sure

456
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.240
if that's the route they would go, but if it is, I'm here

457
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.759
for it and we'll see. Hopefully
AG comes back. Though well, don't

458
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:21.960
forget when Bruce Irvin, you know
we signed him for every period of time

459
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:23.920
that he was like, I'm broad
played with Shep, like just four or

460
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:26.559
five years ago, so it was
like he isn't the coaching But hey,

461
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:30.119
if Dani Kill made a decision,
I'm all for it. Who am I

462
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.839
to question anything these guys do.
If it's coming fresh off a game.

463
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.039
You might hear that because I have
some emotional reactions certain things, But I'm

464
00:28:36.079 --> 00:28:38.400
all in with the Detrio lined franchise
right now. They brought this franchise places

465
00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.119
I haven't seen in my entire life, so I have no choice other than

466
00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:45.920
believing with the choices they're making.
But we get back from break, let's

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when is the heavy mock one point
zero dropping? We do? I want

492
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to do it tomorrow, Letta do
it tomorrow. I'm done. I'm down.

493
00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.960
It's gonna be It's gonna be nasty
now because I he my Detroit Lions.

494
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.039
It's confer Championship. You know,
so I've been a draft. Uh,

495
00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.000
my draft research, my draft don't
work like like usually. I'm just

496
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:08.880
saying my team has been kicking me
busy with other things. But I'll drop

497
00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.559
on tomorrow. You want you want
to do one two kg. I'm not

498
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:17.079
as as versed in all of the
college, but I mean we can give

499
00:31:17.079 --> 00:31:19.920
it a shot. Yeah, fuck
it. Last year and Ron in like

500
00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:23.279
similar abound kind of just dying my
foot into like the draft prospect stuff for

501
00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:29.440
whin my Tonyo Mahaffy, and then
he ended up being like a candidate for

502
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:33.880
like Lion brought him in for an
interview. That's fucking awesome. So hey,

503
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:40.559
we never know. Maybe just nice
like brand Holmes day Campbell one thousand,

504
00:31:40.960 --> 00:31:45.240
watched thousand. It is confirmed,
and I think Jared Goff does if

505
00:31:45.279 --> 00:31:49.160
he doesn't watch it, he's seen
some clips. I felt there's some comments

506
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:55.039
Bid yesterday almost directly towards us,
because at least the media question was asking

507
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.079
him about the critics of saying that
that Ben Johnson that had made him in

508
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:00.799
like expectations without him. He had
this to say, Chris, if you

509
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:06.799
don't mind playing the tape of Jared
Goff personal critics out there who said,

510
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:08.599
well jers Ross or tight end in
the bend. And so you know,

511
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:12.319
if you guys, if you were
working with a different coordinator next year,

512
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.319
what is it that you learned from
that you can take forward? How much

513
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:20.400
did you be looking forward to say, like, I'm not just product of

514
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:22.599
the system. Yeah I was.
I was called that when I was in

515
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.160
l A too. So I guess
I'm just got great systems around me at

516
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:31.720
all times. I'm just the luckiest
guy in the world. I guess I'm

517
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:36.680
talking with this new JG man,
he's I love that ship. What do

518
00:32:36.720 --> 00:32:43.200
you bro the grits coming on it? When he said to Wojo, he

519
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.279
was like, never mind what he
said, thank you, never mind that

520
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.079
ship. Now, I like this
man, this is I like that.

521
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.640
That's for sure. Take your shots, man, you need it. And

522
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.319
yeah, it's but like he knows, he knows that he's had a lot

523
00:32:55.400 --> 00:33:01.079
of luxury working under offensive co ordinators
in play colors such as Sean McVay,

524
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:06.279
Yeah, and uh and Ben Jonson. You look at guys like, oh,

525
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:08.240
I don't know, Zach Wilson,
like you can put in a bad

526
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:13.480
situation, you can be a very
talented quarterback and shit doesn't go too well.

527
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:15.440
But to a tongue of to a
tongue of a loa until he gets

528
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:20.880
Mike McDaniel. Yeah, even Jared
Goff when he fed shot Jeff Fisher until

529
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.039
he got Sean McVay. But yeah, and he had Anthony Lynn and then

530
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:28.519
he got Ben Johnson. So it's
definitely a symbiotic relationship. But I'm I'm

531
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.200
very I'm happy to see him kind
of. He's comfortable now in Detroit.

532
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:37.839
Man, he's talking to ship.
He didn't know he was a poor man's

533
00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:43.559
anything on this wave all year man. But yeah, Detroit is definitely rubbing

534
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:46.440
off on him. Man. But
I'm glad that he phases the critics out,

535
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.599
man, because you gonna have haters
regardless. And with you being real,

536
00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.440
a lot of quarterbacks aren't Jared Goff's
position. Let's be real. There's

537
00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:58.480
only real, five real, absolutely
elite quarterbacks in the league. The rest

538
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.480
are kind of like a Jared Goff
system dependent. But I think he's slightly

539
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:07.200
above that. I think he's earned
a lot of respect this year. They

540
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.519
made the system for him, but
he's taking a lot of leaders leadership in

541
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.119
running the system. So yeah,
I'm looking forward to what another year with

542
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:16.199
Ben Johnson is gonna look, and
he should face out the haters. Like

543
00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:20.519
this guy he's been. He's been
a top notch athlete his whole life.

544
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.519
He's a multi millionaire, he's got
a banging ass fiance. He just took

545
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.320
a team to an NFC super Bowl
or an NFC Championship. I'm just a

546
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:29.480
fat nerd. He talks into a
mine like, well, I would care

547
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.360
what I think. Like so I
like to see it. I like to

548
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:36.679
see it. And I know he's
happy that Ben Johnson is returning because as

549
00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:39.239
I think it's Bob's big boy always
say, you know the football soulmates man

550
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:43.400
so well, Boss big Wall said
that he loves chippy golf. I love

551
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.960
chippy GoF too. I'll never forget. We're losing that game in Chicago,

552
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.320
the one that Jeffy Could got to
pick six, and I think it was

553
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.000
a late hit. I remember which
one of the linebacker or something like that.

554
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:53.840
But I as golf got like firing, and I've never seen that golf

555
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:58.599
ever. And I'm a football ahead, so I've been watching like golf and

556
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:00.679
like forever. And he he was
like talking that shit, like fucking he

557
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.400
was about to like scrap or something
like that, and then guess what detail

558
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:06.400
Lion ended up coming back and win
that game. I was like, Okay,

559
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:08.679
I like getting this guy fired up, and hey, I'm here for

560
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.519
it. And to be honest with
you, yeah you want to us,

561
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:15.559
motherfucker because Ben Johnson came back again. But I don't want to take away

562
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:19.880
from his competitiveness because it does take
the competitive juices to want to be better,

563
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:22.360
to want to learn that Ben Johnson
office, to want to execute it,

564
00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:24.320
to to you know, to learn
everything else that it goes along with

565
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:28.719
it. I think it was my
guy slice on Twitter. I wanted to

566
00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:32.039
say it was shot to him who
posted, uh JG calling the one player

567
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:36.079
with Jimmy Gibs was like thirty thirteen
and ended up scamping around for like the

568
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:37.519
first down here to jump out of
bounce is that's the one where he had

569
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.119
to catch up the penna. So, by the way, shot the Pinnac

570
00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:44.119
was a fucking monster, but it
was it was a JG protection call that

571
00:35:44.199 --> 00:35:46.159
switched to play and I'm saying he
hit try and go L one on MAD

572
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:49.400
or try and go L two whatever
you used to be on MAD and you

573
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.159
know, flip the player around essentially
what they did and at thirty thirteen run

574
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:57.400
play ended up going for a first
down. So he's improved, man oh,

575
00:35:57.440 --> 00:36:00.320
I absolutely improved. He was audible
in a lot in the NFC Championship

576
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.400
game. He saw a lot of
this, Yeah, a lot of him

577
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:06.360
making calls in the lines and that
stuff that you have to be confident in

578
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.679
your system and your players and your
your yourself to do. And you see

579
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:14.960
ben Jahdson sends him out there with
multiple plays. If this is what you

580
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:16.400
get switched to this, if this
is what you get switched to this,

581
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:20.719
And for the majority of the season, golf has been making the correct reads

582
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:23.239
and their correct calls. The other
thing, too, is it's not just

583
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:25.880
us saying it either. It's his
former head of coaching, Sean McVay heading

584
00:36:25.880 --> 00:36:30.079
into that playoff match up and they're
like, you know, how comfortable are

585
00:36:30.119 --> 00:36:31.440
you knowing that you coach this guy
Jared Goff and like what he can and

586
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.519
can't do, And he just put
it back and said, like, he's

587
00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:37.360
not the same guy. It's different. Jared. I'd love to say I'd

588
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:38.400
love to be comfortable, but I'm
not. He's not the same guy,

589
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:42.239
and he admitted a fault that I
wasn't patient enough with him and that that

590
00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:45.440
may or may not be true.
Obviously, I don't even go there.

591
00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.079
He made the decision he made and
then you know, catch it in.

592
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:51.039
But Jared Goff is a better player. And you know a lot of people

593
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.639
point to me and be like,
oh, you're wrong. This and that.

594
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.679
That at the City in twenty twenty
one was not fans of Jared Goff.

595
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:58.840
I get it. My friend Joy
Bell, you's sitting in that chair

596
00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.320
from eleven to one, has a
viral video. Yeah, I essentially called

597
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:06.880
the man everything sort of a yeah, he threw the ball of bounds and

598
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.119
fourth down. He was but it
was a transition period for him. He

599
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:14.719
had to He was in his cocoon
and now he's a beautiful bot. Yes,

600
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:19.280
yes, this is his final form. This is fully you know,

601
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.880
super saying god golf Like he's out
there, he's doing what he needs to

602
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:25.280
do. Man, he's making plays. He's confident, he's in a great

603
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:30.000
system with great pieces around him,
a fantastic offensive line, a great play

604
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.519
caller, and he's happy. He's
having fun and he's playing very well.

605
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:37.159
So it's it's the perfect situation for
him, and he again can't stress enough

606
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.440
sexy as fiance. That makes life
better too. When you come home and

607
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it's Kristin Harper, that's a little
better than coming home to whatever I'm coming

608
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home to. Like I'm just saying
all day every day, she is a

609
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.159
very beautiful woman. Yeah, And
Jared Golf has become a very beautiful quarterback.

610
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And Honolulu that you was saying,
Okay, hey, it's been to

611
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get you easy, hey, and
now we need him to prove that he

612
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:08.000
he's wrong. Now we need him
to take that next step to win the

613
00:38:08.079 --> 00:38:10.760
fucking Super Bowl. Jared Goff,
I want to be here next year.

614
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:15.800
I'm be the get my shit tadded
live on the show because you proved me

615
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:17.679
wrong because you went out there and
you won a Super Bowl for the Detroit

616
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:22.880
Lions. And I think you can. I really do. And I expect

617
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:24.480
the Lions to be in the super
Bowl next year. And if they're in

618
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the super Bowl, they're gonna fucking
win it. And part of that is

619
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.760
the continuity, continuity, the chemistry
and everything else that Dan Campbell had to

620
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up to Welcome back to whatever weight's
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652
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My guys from racks Chris KG were
just freaking out about the golf exercises right

653
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now. Golf exercises, I should
say, there's a lot of weird stuff

654
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:27.679
to get good at golf. Yesterday, our fearless leader Dan Campbell took the

655
00:41:27.719 --> 00:41:31.280
podium and he was asked what does
it take to sustain success in the National

656
00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:36.920
Football League because he's been a part
of those situations once with Bill Parcells as

657
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.079
a player and I don't know,
I don't think coaching them, but just

658
00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:42.280
as a player, and then once
again n the Sean Payton and he had

659
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:47.039
this to save. You don't mind
playing the video, Chris, the experienced

660
00:41:47.079 --> 00:41:52.920
of playing for that, coaching for
that that you've applied to learn how to

661
00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:57.320
sustaining here of the success. Yeah, consistency, got to stay consistent,

662
00:41:57.480 --> 00:42:00.519
which we've done for three years now. You know, stay true to what

663
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.400
you believe in. When it comes
time to start over, you start over,

664
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.360
and it's all it's all about like
what I said, the hard work,

665
00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:12.880
the detail. We got to be
physical, you know, that's that's

666
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:15.920
part of who we are. But
if you start to deviate off of what

667
00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:20.239
you've been, you know, and
I think the other thing you could you

668
00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:22.039
got to be careful. You follow
in the trap with The more success you

669
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.960
have with these players, the more
attached you get, and you got to

670
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:30.039
be careful you don't get blinded.
Uh. And that's hard. That's hard

671
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.280
to do, you know. You
you got to see it for what it

672
00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:37.280
is, step back and make sure
the player is producing and it's capable of

673
00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:44.519
producing at a high level, and
take your emotions out of it. I

674
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.760
love that guy. Yeah, that
Dan Campbell's the man. Dude, he

675
00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:52.119
is the man. I would follow
him in the pits of despair, honestly,

676
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:53.960
Yeah, I probably would. If
you jumped off a bridge, I

677
00:42:54.320 --> 00:43:07.519
would to Yeah I probably wouldn't.
Yeah, No, But the guy,

678
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.599
that's what he does. Man.
He is a master motivator. He is

679
00:43:09.639 --> 00:43:14.360
a leader of men. He is
a dude that will get you. He's

680
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:16.159
the guy that would rally you to
go out on a random night. He's

681
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.280
the guy that will get you off
your ass and make you go change your

682
00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:22.320
life. He'll wake you up at
seven am to go hit the gym after

683
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:23.760
a night out, and you'll be
like, you know what, Dan,

684
00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:29.039
You're fucking right. Who's gonna carry
the boats? Like? I love Dan

685
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.440
campbell Man And he is right though. You see how he's balancing things now

686
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.719
because he's like, yeah, I
love all these guys. That's his big

687
00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:38.519
thing is how much he cares about
his players, how much they mean to

688
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:40.760
him. He says, you have
success with all these guys, start to

689
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.800
get a little too attached and that
can be a bad thing. And he's

690
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:47.400
obviously talking about the free agency.
When you see the list of free agents

691
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:51.519
the Detroit Lions have, there's gonna
be a lot of difficult decisions they have

692
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.440
to make as a coaching staff because
they want to improve, They will need

693
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:55.960
to get better. They want to
increase where they were at last year,

694
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.679
so bringing all the same guys in
might not do that. And I just

695
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.039
think that he is growing as a
head coach. He's always been a great

696
00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:10.039
leader of men and a great motivator, but now he's growing as a decision

697
00:44:10.119 --> 00:44:15.039
maker as a guy who's not only
leading this team, but leading this franchise,

698
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:19.199
leading them into the promise Lan and
looking forward. Now the expectations are

699
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:22.760
building. It's not a cute story
anymore for Dan Campbell. It's not a

700
00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:25.360
oh, look at the underdog,
raw rob bite your kneecap guys anymore.

701
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:30.199
For Dan Campbell. Now you have
the expectations to travel deep into the NFC

702
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.559
playoffs. Now you have the expectations
to be a top three seed in the

703
00:44:34.679 --> 00:44:38.119
NFC. Now you have the expectations
to repeat as the champions of the NFC

704
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:44.000
North. So all that cute shit
is gone. Now you have realistic expectations

705
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:47.280
for realistic success in one of the
toughest sports leagues in the world. Talk

706
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.960
about the consistency, talk about being
too touched, and that's stuff that I

707
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:53.519
love to hear. I love to
hear. I think it's even like coming

708
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:57.800
into the NFC Commence Championship game,
where it's like you have to remind yourself

709
00:44:57.840 --> 00:45:00.199
of the things you believe and you
have to stay true to them, like

710
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:01.960
straight away from him and these are
things going back to where he learned from

711
00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:06.559
Sean Payton and Bill Parcells. And
I think that's key because you do look

712
00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:08.519
at a guy who is emotional,
you do remember him crying at the podium

713
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:12.320
with the Vikings loss. I do
remember him crying during the interview for the

714
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.360
Monday Night Football about the guys that
were there in twenty twenty one. But

715
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.079
it's nice to know that he is
at the foundational root of it all.

716
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.559
He's still gonna evaluate you as a
player. There's still expectations that you need

717
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:25.159
to meet. They're still like the
consisteny of of what it takes to be

718
00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:29.719
great that he expects avis players.
And I love that he's hold himself true

719
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.639
to that reminds himself of that because
he is an emotional guy. And there's

720
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:36.519
like proven evidence of it too,
because I remember not like it was cool

721
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.280
when Brad Holmes cried about talking about
Pinny Suo in that first draft class when

722
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.559
he did an interview with Danny Rodgers. It is cool that he's attached to

723
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:43.800
his franchise. These players like that. By the end of the day,

724
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:45.639
there's businesses that need to be made. It's nice to know they're able to

725
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:50.119
make them because we've lived through it. With the Dhwan Williams situation. I

726
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.199
mean, he was perceived as a
leader of this team emotionally throughout the bad

727
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:58.159
all the way up through the good
and helping get us to be good,

728
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.719
and you'll keep our heads up in
those situations. I'm gonna be in that

729
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:04.079
practice with us being that practice where
like he's finishing out runs after getting tackled

730
00:46:04.199 --> 00:46:06.400
or just wrapped up while they do
in training camp, but he still run

731
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:07.360
all the way down the zones to
get the extra rep and that you're set

732
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.119
in like the standard, right,
but they they're let loose at the at

733
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:14.719
the end of the day. Is
there's business, there's there's there's demands that

734
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.159
need to be met if you want
to become champions. So it's nice to

735
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:22.079
know that he carries those key principles
like to this day and it's nice to

736
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.480
know we witness them help us become
from like the low lead Detroit Lions and

737
00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:30.159
I've never seen win a playoff game
in my entire lifetime to just battling just

738
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:35.760
this past Sunday for a fucking Super
Bowl berth, Like it's just we see

739
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:38.320
these things and here I don't know, it's just real. None of it's

740
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:40.800
cute, none of its sound umbrella, it's it's the real deal. And

741
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:45.599
to continue to be this way because
the original conversation stem from sustained success,

742
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:47.960
and I think we're gonna witness that
as Detroit Lions fans with Dan Campbell in

743
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.039
charge. And these were the expectations
he put on himself. These were the

744
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:53.920
expectations when he first got here,
he put on his coaching staff, his

745
00:46:54.039 --> 00:46:57.679
players, his team. He knows
what he wants to build to. He

746
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.880
knows what they were and what he
built them in to, which is a

747
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.559
threat, which is a contender,
which is a super Bowl contender. And

748
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:09.239
he has been in those situations before. He's seen head coaches who that's all

749
00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:13.199
they know. When you look at
Sean Payton, when you look at Bill

750
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:17.199
Parcells. He's been under these coaches
who all they know is contending for Super

751
00:47:17.239 --> 00:47:22.920
Bowls. All they know is putting
out the best product available to try to

752
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:25.119
make deep runs in the playoffs,
and that rubs off. He knows how

753
00:47:25.159 --> 00:47:28.920
to handle himself. He's not gonna
ship the bed in here. These are

754
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:31.440
the waters he was born swimming in. He knows what he's doing, he

755
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:37.400
knows what it means to be there
consistently, and he is going to exude

756
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.320
that confidence, exude that mentality into
his players and the rest of his coaching

757
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:49.960
staff. His picture of the Neirvana
cover. Maybe that's kg you the first

758
00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.840
one to bring up the Kasistiti statement
earlier today it's talking about the return of

759
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:54.480
Ben Johnson. What does that mean
to you? Here? And Dan Campbell

760
00:47:54.480 --> 00:47:59.920
had to say about sustained success and
just being real. Like like Dan Campbell

761
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:02.159
not saying he's not a good coach
now, but the mark of a good

762
00:48:02.239 --> 00:48:06.920
coach is being able to retool and
still keep that same level of success.

763
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.920
You see it with all the top
coaches in the league today, and it

764
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.639
does suck, you know, but
it's good to know that he gives a

765
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:17.519
damn. That's one thing that I've
always appreciated about Dan Campbell. He lets

766
00:48:17.559 --> 00:48:21.639
you know where he's at with you. You know, he shoots you straight

767
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.719
essentially like and that's one of his
greatest qualities. Man. But you have

768
00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:30.840
to be able to retool and be
able to let certain players go and make

769
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.079
certain decisions, and he's given us
a preview of that. He had to

770
00:48:34.159 --> 00:48:36.679
let go of his friend and Anthony
Lynn. Man, he had to let

771
00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.039
go all pleasant like we've seen examples
that he's capable of making these type of

772
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:45.920
decisions. Man. So I hope
that you know going forward he'll continue on

773
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:49.559
that path of making the right decisions. But he's real at the end of

774
00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:52.639
the day, he's genuine, and
you know, how can you not get

775
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.199
behind a person like that? And
how can you not want to play for

776
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:57.719
a guy like that? Yeah,
I know a lot of people speak about

777
00:48:57.719 --> 00:49:00.719
either Rod Rock coaches, which he
was like perceived to be, of which

778
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:02.119
he's a little bit of like executive
coach. But I know that message could

779
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:06.599
grow dry if you're not seeing like
results from it. But but they are

780
00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:08.760
in the situation with Dan Campbell.
Every single year this team has gotten better

781
00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.679
and to the point in year three
a little bit battling for a super it's

782
00:49:12.679 --> 00:49:15.920
insane to see. But talking about
that consistency, it's a beautiful thing that

783
00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.719
Ben Johnson back and be part of
that, because when you know you're sitting

784
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.679
here down the dumb so that there's
doubt and like whatever situation you may be

785
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:23.440
in the game, you know that
you wrote a battle before once with this

786
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:29.000
guy Ben Johnson making the calls and
all the day you went in victorious.

787
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:30.639
You can go back Chicago Bears game, whatever comeback games you want to look

788
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.760
at like that was part of it. So the consistency part of it haven't

789
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:37.559
been Johnsons returned. That's that's huge, man. That is I mean it's

790
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.679
monumental to a point where it's like
I don't even know, like where's discussed

791
00:49:40.719 --> 00:49:44.280
with someone, Like there's so many
more intricacies when it comes like breaking it

792
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.480
down the game down terms like X
and o's that I couldn't even like bring

793
00:49:46.519 --> 00:49:50.320
to you. But that's that's what
he is huge, not in the sense

794
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:54.679
of like gained weight in nothing.
Col Coloss, I think you're looking for

795
00:49:54.800 --> 00:50:00.559
Ben. Yeah, dude, I'm
just it's so awesome to see is happening

796
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.639
to see like like how many times
if we had a guy at that podium

797
00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.760
with that Troit Lions logo behind him, Yeah, telling us this ship and

798
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.880
just selling us snake oil, just
blowing smoke up our ass, or even

799
00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.000
just like I'm sorry, no,
you're good, even just like making it

800
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:20.000
to the playoffs. Yeah, and
it was fucking we got bad at Yeah,

801
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.880
we made the plaus Jim Schwartz didn't
replicated. No, we made the

802
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.400
playoffs with Jim Cobwell didn't get replicated. It was just you were there and

803
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:30.519
then it was a seat like downhill
trot of it. Yeah, and those

804
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:32.360
are guys that were part of,
like I guess, winning organization at one

805
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:36.480
point. I know Jim Schwartz with
I think it was the Titans when they're

806
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:37.440
like winning games something that they won
a Super Bowl anything like that. I

807
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.920
know he did with the he fut
Off Eagles. Jim Cawboll did that with

808
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.320
the Ravens. But the Ravens an
example of that team. We talked about

809
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.599
if you don't come back next year
with the same hunger and mentality and the

810
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.320
consistity of everything else, you could
just become medium. Well. Jim Cabbo

811
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.400
was part of that with Baltimore Ravens. I think they won Super Bowl.

812
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:55.159
They became regular, regular regular.
Andy Campbell's been sustaining success everywhere he's been.

813
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.639
This partnership of Dan Campbell and Brad
Holmes is sustaining something for a long

814
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:02.159
time. Yes, you see what
Brad Holmes is doing. Bro, He's

815
00:51:02.199 --> 00:51:05.960
grabbing all pros out of every fucking
draft. Every single draft he's had,

816
00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.920
he's getting all pro. You look
at what he's doing going forward building this

817
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:13.719
team. That's how good teams stay
good. You look at the Chiefs,

818
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:19.320
the Chiefs lost. They lost Tyreek
Hill, they lost Frank Clark, they

819
00:51:19.719 --> 00:51:22.960
lost Tyron Matthew, they lose Orlando
Brown, they lose. They're still in

820
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:24.599
the fucking super Bowl. And yeah, Patrick Mahomes is a big part of

821
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:29.239
it, but it's also that defense
that was built through the draft that Trent

822
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.599
mcduffy, the Nick Bolton, the
George carlftis these guys they're grabbing that are

823
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:37.000
coming in and having an instant impact
to keep them at that level. Because

824
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:40.079
even Patrick Mahomes can't do it by
himself. We saw when he got there

825
00:51:40.159 --> 00:51:44.199
and he didn't have an offensive line. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers ripped his head

826
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:49.159
off. So having a guy like
Brad Holmes in place that will continue to

827
00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:52.440
pump out good talent for Dan Campbell
to mold shape and point in the right

828
00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:57.239
direction is a combination for success for
a long time. Yeah, and the

829
00:51:57.360 --> 00:51:59.719
key is there and lots stiff though, Yes, when if you've seen a

830
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:02.719
color GM relationship like this strong,
it seems like they're in agreements on everything

831
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:07.599
and they continue to hit the nail
on the head. They find players and

832
00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:12.599
it works, man, And I'm
man, you can't ask for a better

833
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:15.519
relationship like that, they're willing to
compromise because they belief in one another.

834
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:20.360
Like listen to that what they call
it every they come out with it.

835
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:23.239
It's beautiful piece by the detent lines
organization that they bring it out behind the

836
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:27.199
den or something like that. Yeah, and inside and then there you go.

837
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.679
Well, I remember when, Hey, when they were talking about that

838
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.519
the draft process of like last year, Brad had me it seemed like Jack

839
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.760
Campbell was Dan's guy. That's been
he called out before the draft process and

840
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:42.320
went down, but had that faith
in each other. It's like, okay,

841
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:43.960
Dan, like this is your guys, the guy you want. Fuck

842
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:45.559
it, I'm gonna get you them. And it's it's the balls in your

843
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.559
court at that point. I'm saying, coach them up and make them everything

844
00:52:47.599 --> 00:52:50.880
you believe in the be at that
point. And like you said, they

845
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:52.920
work lock and step with that,
and I love that. I mean,

846
00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:58.280
drafting a running back in the first
round these days is not a popular move.

847
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:00.719
It's not a brilliant move to be
made. But then once you know

848
00:53:00.840 --> 00:53:05.159
you got that faith in Brad Holmes
to do so and Ben Johnson to finish

849
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.960
the rest of it out, now
you look like a fucking genius. Yeah,

850
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.320
it's the same way I look back. This is a kind of random

851
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.679
thought of it. But like one
of my other sceptions is like YouTubers,

852
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.039
like I just it blows my mind. People start in the fucking basement and

853
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:19.239
become like multi multi millionaires. Yeah. Well, mister B talks about his

854
00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:22.239
journey's like, yeah, I was
just crazy. People call me crazy people.

855
00:53:22.239 --> 00:53:23.519
So I was obsessed with YouTube.
Was I was like the weird old

856
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:27.480
kid, and now I'm a genius
because of it. It's like, yeah,

857
00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:30.559
that's that's how it works. All
geniuses are crazy in someone's eye.

858
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.840
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all your time and I mean wrong study

859
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894
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:14.920
Have NFL off season one of the
actually in the NFL and NBA had

895
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:16.079
the best off seasons in my opinion. Yeah, when it comes like free

896
00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.559
agency, like who's going where?
What's going where? Probably NBA number one

897
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:22.000
for me, honest, NFL close
second. I don't know a lot of

898
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:27.000
NBA stuff happens in season, though
a lot of it's nice. Yeah,

899
00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:30.039
the trade deadline is the new off
season for the WA I guess I'll never

900
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.519
forget. I was I'm only I
think it's partridge out that's out door one

901
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:36.840
right when when he went to the
Warriors and I was like that ship,

902
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:38.679
dude, that ship pissed me so
much. It was like, what the

903
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:44.199
fuck does that? I think my
favorite off season moment was Lebron so he

904
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:49.079
no Princefielder. When we flipped Prince
Fielder. I remember I was down.

905
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.119
I was in my boys basement were
fried and I was in. It just

906
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.320
came on the hole how high am
I? It came on the bottom roll

907
00:56:55.440 --> 00:57:00.960
of the like ESPN the bottom bar
and it was like breaking Tigers trade Princefield.

908
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:02.360
I was like, no way,
they got it done. They got

909
00:57:02.440 --> 00:57:09.360
rid of the contract and it was
like, No, that was crazy.

910
00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:15.480
That was awesome. Man. Dave
Nebrowski RP shoutouts my favorite GMS. I'm

911
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:21.679
a GM there can tell lose loose
asshole, great name, says spending his

912
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.400
big boy all grown up after a
rough child. Facts, I'm a big

913
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:30.519
man. Well, Detroit Lions lost
the Sunday NFC Conference Championship. Some were

914
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:35.000
still morning. Was time to uh
have some fun with it because now we

915
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:37.519
get the shot for agency. Now
I want to ask you guys, what

916
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:40.760
what what position? What's the number
one need for the detri Lion's position?

917
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:45.559
Wise, I put a little little
game in there. Little game. Yeah,

918
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.639
Okay, what's up? Because I
think we all know there's two positions

919
00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:52.119
need for the Detroit Lions. Okay, if the biggest two positions need our

920
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:55.559
cornerback and at rusher, I think
we can agree on that, or defensive

921
00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:59.360
line at drusher. Some need to
get to go quarter. Yeah, And

922
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:01.840
so I put a game. I'm
not ready for that game. Would you

923
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:07.159
rather? Yeah? And I have
a pretty strong opinion on this, and

924
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.960
so I can go first, but
it's would you rather sign a defensive lineman

925
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:16.400
and free agency and draft a young
cornerback? Or draft a defensive lineman and

926
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:22.360
sign a cornerback and free agency,
and I have a pretty ironclad reason of

927
00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:27.079
what I want to do, and
for me, it is sign a defensive

928
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:31.480
lineman and draft a cornerback because I
look at the draft history of a Brad

929
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.880
Holmes when it comes to the secondary
players that he's drafted compared to the defensive

930
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.320
lineman he's drafted at his time in
Detroit and even guys he wanted when you

931
00:58:42.400 --> 00:58:45.920
look at he really wanted Devin Witherspoon. All the reports were he was gonna

932
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:49.679
draft Von Witherspoon if he was there. Motherfucker's a stud. You see him

933
00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.079
drafted, Kirby Joseph, You see
him drafted if you Melifon moved these guys,

934
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:57.679
Brian Branch, all of these secondary
players that he's drafted are very damn

935
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:00.519
good in the NFL. And you
flip the script. Can you look at

936
00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:05.880
the defensive lineman he's drafted, not
so much edge rushers because obviously Hutchinson stud

937
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.199
but that was it's kind of gimme
Houston is who Houston looks like a stud.

938
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:14.639
But you look at the interior defensive
lineman that he's drafted along lim is

939
00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:19.719
very good, but Levi not so
much. Injury. Broderick Martin, we

940
00:59:19.800 --> 00:59:22.239
don't know yet. Yeah, he
was drafted as a product. He was

941
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.159
drafted as a project. But I
think if you look at a guy like

942
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:31.320
Matabuki from Baltimore that you can get
for cheaper than it would be the Chris

943
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:36.840
Jones who at thirteen and a half
sacks last year, saying you put him

944
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:42.519
in between and Alee McNeil and Aiden
Hutchinson and then you use Brad holmes very

945
00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:45.719
good track record at drafting secondary players
to go out there and grab the best

946
00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:49.119
corner in the draft, or who
he thinks is the best corner in the

947
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:52.519
draft. I would prefer that aspect. But if he goes out and gets

948
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:55.679
JERRYU. Snead, I'm not gonna
complain about it, of course, but

949
00:59:55.800 --> 01:00:00.000
I just think that's if you're getting, you're making me pick between the I

950
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:05.880
would rather sign the defensive lineman,
a veteran guy, a guy who is

951
01:00:06.119 --> 01:00:08.159
who is has a track record and
is good in the NFL, and then

952
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:13.480
let Brad Holmes do what he does
best and draft a playmaker in the secondary.

953
01:00:14.599 --> 01:00:19.119
I like the I like the case
built around that. I don't know

954
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.599
if I have an answer, though, Like I guess where do you want

955
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:24.960
to guaranteed piece? What I'm saying
like, like, who do you want

956
01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:28.320
to be the guaranteed good guy that
you want to be the defensive lineman or

957
01:00:28.440 --> 01:00:34.280
we want to be the cornerback because
in this market and also cornerbacks, like

958
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:37.599
signing a cornerback in free agency has
hit or miss too. You never know

959
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:42.119
those guys. The shelf life and
the peaks and valleys of a cornerback in

960
01:00:42.119 --> 01:00:45.840
the NFL is a lot steeper than
the peaks and values of a defensive lineman.

961
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.360
Yeah, that's where mine was.
That That's where I was with Spencer

962
01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.360
for that reason too. On top
of everything he said, was that just

963
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:55.480
those cornerbacks, man, like it's
it could change really fast. And I

964
01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:59.639
know that. You know, we've
talked about how cornerback is a very tough

965
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.760
position to adjust to in the NFL, But in the last couple of drafts

966
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:07.239
we've seen very good cornerbacks be impactful
right away on their rote contracts. So

967
01:01:08.159 --> 01:01:12.599
yeah, so I'm saying, like
I feel like this is a this is

968
01:01:12.679 --> 01:01:15.880
no brainer. Get the pressures,
Get the guy that pressures the quarterback.

969
01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:20.039
And then the cornerback. You know, I think I think Brad Holmes has

970
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:24.639
shown and then everything too is that
in the draft it's usually a higher cost

971
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:30.159
to go get the top defensive end
than it is to get the top corner

972
01:01:30.599 --> 01:01:32.679
I mean, they're both valuable,
don't get me wrong, but I mean,

973
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.119
just looking at the history of the
drafts, I mean, usually it's

974
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:38.480
like the drushers are first, and
you can get a damn good cornerback,

975
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:42.679
maybe like the second or third best
who might end up being the best at

976
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:45.559
pick eighteen, pick twenty five,
you know, not too far from the

977
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:49.320
range you're going to be drafting.
Were you at Kiji, maybe I'm scar

978
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:52.079
and like Spinning, you got great
points, Bro, and like, honestly,

979
01:01:52.239 --> 01:01:55.039
I would probably go with your line
of thinking, depending on how deep

980
01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:59.840
the corner market is. I know
there's two premier names out there, but

981
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.840
mostly I want an experience corner because, like I said, I'm a little

982
01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:07.639
scar. I think back to like
Jeff Okudah and how hard it was for

983
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.920
a guy like Jeff o'cutera to turn
the corner. I know that wasn't Dan's

984
01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:15.039
regime, but you know, I
really feel like you can if you do

985
01:02:15.239 --> 01:02:19.960
hit on a lineman and you draft
one, then you have them under the

986
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:22.199
rookie deal. You have them for
five years guaranteed at that point, and

987
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.920
you're paying them pennies, you know, essentially, So I would lean more

988
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.559
toward that. I think we just
need more experience in the backfield. He

989
01:02:30.719 --> 01:02:35.679
has done great drafting secondary players so
far, you know, with Kirby and

990
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:39.519
Brian Branch and people of that nature. But you know, I, like

991
01:02:39.599 --> 01:02:44.400
I said, I really would like
to have more experience in that backfield this

992
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:49.239
coming season and take your chances on
drafting a defensive lineman. I feel like

993
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.719
if they keep chipping away at it, they will eventually hit. Hutch did

994
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.079
fall in this lap. But we've
seen some progress from Josh Pascal even LEVI.

995
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.760
I mean, he kind of showed
something toward the end of the year.

996
01:02:59.800 --> 01:03:02.840
I know it hasn't been great with
him and who's the who's the know

997
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.840
about Projick Martin, But I feel
like, you know, I would lean

998
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:12.079
more towards that. Okay, I
can't argue with that. You're wrong,

999
01:03:12.199 --> 01:03:20.719
No, you're stupid, and I
had I really don't know, man,

1000
01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:22.960
I mean, I think it's a
winning win situation. The way right,

1001
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.320
But yeah, I kind of want
to lean towards the experience just because of

1002
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:29.239
like the window that we're in right
now. Yeah, almost like I almost

1003
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.840
want to rely on a rookie dB
to help I guess complete that, you

1004
01:03:32.880 --> 01:03:36.840
know, I just don't know where
my confidence is and and that happening.

1005
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.440
Although there are great points of guys
have come out, but there also been

1006
01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:44.119
like top of the draft guys,
Derek Stingly, Sauce Gardener, I mean

1007
01:03:44.159 --> 01:03:45.960
this goes on and on, just
names I can't think of the top of

1008
01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:52.440
my head right now, Witherspoon,
Brian Branch. Yeah, I think I'd

1009
01:03:52.559 --> 01:04:00.400
rather sign the veteran dB and then
go lineman in the draft. It would

1010
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.599
be cheaper to that is the cheaper
round for sure. Defensive costs way less

1011
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:08.559
than addresser or a defense. Yeah, and who's the same. Brad won't

1012
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:11.960
move up to get a premier.
We know he would draft. We know

1013
01:04:12.119 --> 01:04:14.960
he's not afraid to do so.
If he sees the guy that he likes,

1014
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:16.239
he will move up and get him. Yeah, and he has extra

1015
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:21.800
amble this year too, tricks and
slack. What's your second, right,

1016
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.880
that's your third? It's from hot
right, So we got yeah, we

1017
01:04:26.960 --> 01:04:30.039
got our first, our second,
our third, and Minnesota third and then

1018
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.800
fifth, sixth, and seventh,
twenty twenty spaces between those two third round

1019
01:04:34.840 --> 01:04:41.159
picks. Yeah, it's pretty nice, Ship Vikings, it's pretty nice.

1020
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:44.280
If leaves, you get another one
too, that's true. Yeah, yeah,

1021
01:04:44.440 --> 01:04:47.360
another third round pick. Yeah?
Well, how about was this?

1022
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:54.400
Do you want a g to leave
it? No? I mean I don't

1023
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:57.239
want him to leave, but I'm
just but if you do, you know

1024
01:04:58.519 --> 01:05:03.760
ty and Strand like Somalian or is
he from like a the stands like,

1025
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:13.199
hey he's cheered, Yeah, he's
counts. Let's do this actually real quick,

1026
01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:17.400
Chris and the chat. I also
sent Corded brat Spielberger the top ten

1027
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:21.719
free agents at the cornerback position and
the top free agents at the we want

1028
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:24.920
if it's a Wine or Edge.
I guess that's the other question. I

1029
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:30.000
think it. I won't both,
but I would go Edge first first and

1030
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:35.199
first. I don't know what to
just start with. I also looked at

1031
01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:41.280
the free agents at the edge position, and like somebody you can get on

1032
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.840
a a one year like Chase Chase, a ring deal like a Daniel Hunter

1033
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:49.039
or Davian Clowney or somebody like that. That's maybe not what they used to

1034
01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:53.079
be or is it Darius Smith,
like we talked about, you can sign

1035
01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:56.639
for a one year you know,
ten million, twelve million dollars deal with

1036
01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.679
an incentives to put out big money
in the middle, draft the middle,

1037
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:01.599
the young guy in the middle,
or signed the cornerbacker. Either way.

1038
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:05.039
Yeah, I like that because let's
see the list of edge guys in first,

1039
01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:09.880
Chris, which one into your edge? Yeah? The edge defenders.

1040
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.800
I think I believe it says edge
Josh if there's the I l and ideal

1041
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:18.559
and only said two yeah, and
then cornerback, Oh, yep, you

1042
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:28.320
do have the fu Jo Josh Josh. Josh would be the Jags have already

1043
01:06:28.320 --> 01:06:30.199
come out and said that he's gonna
come back one way, another way to

1044
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.559
franchise Tag Yeah. Yeah, I
didn't think he was available. Josh would

1045
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:38.599
be Brian Burns. I'm assuming the
same thing the franchise. Tag Hunter had

1046
01:06:38.599 --> 01:06:42.559
a damn good year this last year
fourteen. I think he is up there

1047
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:47.159
in age. That's what I'm saying
is actually the Neil Hunterveon Clowney, is,

1048
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:50.719
Darius Smith, Leonard Floyd. I
think all those guys would take a

1049
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:57.480
one two year deal with incentive instead
of written deal to chase the Super Bowl.

1050
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:00.760
You know what here, especially here
put up my time. They name

1051
01:07:00.800 --> 01:07:05.360
that caught my eye. No,
it's one that not I didn't even know

1052
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:10.639
existed on the face of planet Earth
until today. You honestly Bright's Hough,

1053
01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:15.880
Yeah he was, he was.
He was since the Jets James Houston,

1054
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.679
where was undrafted free agent they signed
and up just bawling out and now here

1055
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:23.440
he is as number four on the
top ten Fringy Edge list. I feel

1056
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:27.000
like another guy, which we've seen
Brad do now too, guys from her

1057
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:30.159
first round picks just didn't work elsewhere, like kind of fringe guys on those

1058
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.599
proved deals because we were built on
that competition, on that you know,

1059
01:07:33.079 --> 01:07:38.360
prove yourself. I was kind of
and I didn't know deep dive into it,

1060
01:07:38.440 --> 01:07:40.519
but enough to where I'm like,
holy shit, that guy is.

1061
01:07:40.639 --> 01:07:43.440
Like his burst off the line was
kind of crazy. Tell my Bryce hop

1062
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:45.400
that is. Yeah, that was
what I was looking at. Now I

1063
01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:47.880
get that everyone's not no one's else
is gonna jumping that right away, because

1064
01:07:47.880 --> 01:07:49.960
like, I didn't know he existed
until today. But it's a little bit

1065
01:07:49.960 --> 01:07:53.280
of homework I did do. I
was like that guy. Actually, Brendan

1066
01:07:53.960 --> 01:08:00.480
the Neil Hunter is a girl's name, but you won't say. I think

1067
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:03.119
it's pronounced Daniell, isn't it.
It's Daniel. I think he is the

1068
01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:11.159
Neil. It's Daniel for Daniel or
Danel And uh I remember I think uh.

1069
01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:15.159
John Gruden said if he could have
the body of any person, it

1070
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:17.920
would bea Danil Hunter. Yeah,
because he's due. Yeah you Jack,

1071
01:08:18.039 --> 01:08:24.359
he is Jack Diesel dude. So
Bryce Haff this year, which I guess,

1072
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:26.720
say what you want. I'm a
Bouquet kind of had like a breakout

1073
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.199
year this year too. Wasn't doing
much before then, but uh first year

1074
01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.399
only had two sacks. Two twenty
one hit two sacks, two twenty two

1075
01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.960
had three and a half and they
cashed in ten this year. Yeah,

1076
01:08:40.600 --> 01:08:45.199
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wrecks Young Chris kg uh just coming
detro Liance French. The options and obviously

1101
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.479
needs for us all, I think
we need a piece of defensive line YEP,

1102
01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:41.680
plus interior edge and then obviously I
think corner. I think honest to

1103
01:10:41.680 --> 01:10:45.359
the corner probably should be number one. Like if if you have powering positions

1104
01:10:45.399 --> 01:10:47.560
of need, is the corner corners
number one? Yeah? I think So

1105
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.800
it is possible you need a lockdown
corner to be signed. James to two

1106
01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:57.560
years or one year? Who James
Houston. Uh, he's a restrictive rights

1107
01:10:57.600 --> 01:11:00.319
free agent this year, so you
got to offer me then they like can't

1108
01:11:00.359 --> 01:11:03.880
go anywhere else. So I was
doing doing the homework on Daniel whatever you

1109
01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:06.079
want to say. He's only twenty
nine years old. Yeah, yeah,

1110
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:11.319
still still dog. That might be
the one. The Brice one might be

1111
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.800
a good like you know, the
best too much into it. I will

1112
01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.560
put Ooul shit and bread on Danil
Hunter, like to put him opposite because

1113
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:21.760
he is not just an edgeresher either, Like he plays the run game very

1114
01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:26.319
well. He's a guy you could
put as a third down edge and then

1115
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.359
think of the fucking like we used
to talk about that NASCAR package all the

1116
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:32.680
time. Yeah, if you add
a legitimate guy like Danil Hunter out there

1117
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:38.079
as well, you could move Hutch
inside or just put uh and put Houston

1118
01:11:38.159 --> 01:11:42.840
next to Hutch and then have Hutch
and Pascal and Daniel Hunter and Houston like

1119
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:45.159
that. Shit could get dangerous if
you brought it a piece like that.

1120
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:49.000
With the signing of Bruce Irving,
do you think there's like a want for

1121
01:11:49.680 --> 01:11:53.359
a sleeve guy, Yeah, I
know, like James and like Bruce.

1122
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.239
Like, do you view Daniel as
that? I think more of the Hutch

1123
01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:58.119
guy. No, I think he's
more of a Hutch guy. He is

1124
01:11:58.199 --> 01:12:02.560
more of a consistent threat on the
outside. He's not boxed into one.

1125
01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:08.319
He is a very complete edge rusher, and I think it would be justicifying.

1126
01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:13.960
I think that the ying and the
yang with it's funny because it's a

1127
01:12:13.960 --> 01:12:18.720
black guy, white guy, James
Houston and Hudginson. Of how Hutch is

1128
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:25.199
more of a power aggressive guy and
Houston is a finesse speed rusher. Definitely

1129
01:12:26.119 --> 01:12:29.920
plays a role and it helps.
But you could still have that with James

1130
01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:34.079
Houston while adding Daniel Hunter. You
could just bring Houston in on a rush

1131
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:39.039
down and like I said, move
bump Hutch inside and have them stunt together

1132
01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:43.880
or something like that. So I
think I think you can. You can

1133
01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.279
definitely add Daniel Hunter and you're not
worried about that as much. Ship God

1134
01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:50.960
says Brian Burns, I think a
speed guy. I don't think Brian burn

1135
01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:54.239
is gonna hit the market. Brian
Burns is, No, he's gonna.

1136
01:12:54.880 --> 01:12:57.560
They made no reason for them to
hold on to the deadline if they were

1137
01:12:57.600 --> 01:13:01.000
gonna let him walk. Yeah,
so I think it should have traded him,

1138
01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:03.880
for sure. You should have traded
him and Derek Brown. I gotta

1139
01:13:03.880 --> 01:13:08.560
do homework on this. Green Ard
Grennard guy too, Jonathan Garnard don't even

1140
01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:13.520
know who even isn't it are you? I'm not sorry. I was not

1141
01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:15.880
familiar with your game, all right, but that that's what it is.

1142
01:13:15.920 --> 01:13:19.000
At an edge and maybe this answered
our question we got to go like outside

1143
01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:23.119
or inside because we also have the
top ten defensive. We had something else

1144
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.399
to say, Chris before you,
I was just going to say that when

1145
01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:31.479
it comes to all of this,
that if you have to make any decisions,

1146
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:34.920
are you are you looking at some
of these guys as like Brad as

1147
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:38.479
like Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell guys
like I mean, we know what we

1148
01:13:38.600 --> 01:13:41.640
talked about at the draft, Like
I think Danil Hunter is a Dan Campbell

1149
01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:44.680
guy for sure, Absolutely, I
think. I mean, obviously it's a

1150
01:13:44.720 --> 01:13:45.840
private relationship with c J. G. Jason. Maybe it's a little bit

1151
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:50.279
of like a prior relationship. You
know what he's about, although you know

1152
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:56.359
you got things at point him not
being one of their guys. But yeah,

1153
01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.520
every every interview I've seen from him, any any post game sound,

1154
01:13:59.560 --> 01:14:01.239
he's all. He's about the team. He's always about winning, wanting to

1155
01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:04.399
win and stuff like that. So
yeah, that's a great point though to

1156
01:14:04.439 --> 01:14:06.479
bring up. Though, Yeah,
because a lot of these guys, to

1157
01:14:06.560 --> 01:14:10.760
be honest, I don't I don't
know, I don't know much of them.

1158
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:13.960
On to the two guys on there, that wouldn't be if I would

1159
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:15.199
have if I were to look at
him, would be Brian Burns and Chase

1160
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:19.760
Yeah, Chase Young definitely not.
Maybe even Davian Clowney probably not either.

1161
01:14:19.760 --> 01:14:23.800
And by the way, too,
like Jadevion Clowney. I grabbed this from

1162
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:27.600
a breakdown video and they're kind of
showing his plays. He's a lot more

1163
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:30.079
like straight line rushier than like a
speed guy these days. And that's what

1164
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:33.600
Mike mcdamim did differently with them.
And obviously he had my bouquet next to

1165
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:35.800
him, and you know I'm saying, so I was like, yeah,

1166
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:39.560
yeah, it's a fucking stack.
Defense is like, I don't know if

1167
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:42.520
I expect Jami County as good as
he was this year to be what he

1168
01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:45.920
was with the Baltimore Ravens. I
think it's just important to look at because

1169
01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:48.399
I mean, he that was the
whole press conference, right Dan Campbell had

1170
01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:54.119
was just the importance of continuity of
guys fitting in this culture, this specific

1171
01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.279
culture that they're building. So I
think not only when it comes to draft,

1172
01:14:57.479 --> 01:14:59.920
Yeah, a free agency, I
think it's very important to look at

1173
01:15:00.079 --> 01:15:02.680
those kind of players too, But
who did you want material If it's a

1174
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:10.199
lineman, all right, let's see
here we go, Here we go this

1175
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:20.279
Christian Jones. Some names. This
list is not DJ versus Sheldon Rankins,

1176
01:15:20.399 --> 01:15:26.560
d J Reader, Leonard Williams,
Christal Wilkinsokie, that's a day Campbell guy

1177
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:32.560
for sure, brand tart Cox oh
Man Now Patrick Mahomes restructured his deal with

1178
01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:35.439
at some point during the season,
right, I don't know, he's possibly

1179
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:41.039
Chris Jones returns the case. I
think. I don't think after that fiasco

1180
01:15:41.159 --> 01:15:43.800
earlier in the year, I don't
think so. And then you think if

1181
01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:45.399
he wins the Super Bowl he just
got first team All Pro? He want

1182
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:48.720
you think you just want to be
like fat and happy? Did He's still

1183
01:15:48.760 --> 01:15:53.159
be like hungry? I mean,
you're gonna be a little fat and happy

1184
01:15:53.199 --> 01:15:57.279
when you win the third Super Bowl
and make first team All Pro. Gain

1185
01:15:57.399 --> 01:16:00.279
he's gonna get. I don't They're
not gonna get christ Jones. He's gonna

1186
01:16:00.319 --> 01:16:02.760
get so much money. Yeah,
so just crossing him, I would cross

1187
01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:06.520
because he's the most expensive absolutely.
Yeah. The video I got this from

1188
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:11.359
there talking about how the Texans have
a lot of money because all the draft

1189
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:18.680
picks they made. Nasty to add
him next to uh Ryan's too instantly keep

1190
01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:20.600
that up. We're still looking at
I'm also looking at it. Yeah,

1191
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:26.039
put the cameras up. I would
love Leonard Williams. I don't know about

1192
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:30.840
you. I always Leonard Williams.
That's a dad Campbell guy too. Yeah,

1193
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.359
he is a dog. He is
a dog. DJ Reader is a

1194
01:16:33.439 --> 01:16:39.880
dog too. So Sheldon rankins to
be honest after seeing both lists, Collen

1195
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.800
in because I feel like there's a
lot that's deep. Plus I mean,

1196
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:46.079
you don't know, we don't know. He is gonna end up being either

1197
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:53.039
if my bouquet is available. By
the way, as much as I look

1198
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.479
them, Brice offices like one year
thing, but Boquet really had this.

1199
01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:58.800
This year is like his breakout.
That's what I'm saying. He's not gonna

1200
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:01.439
cost you as much as Chris Strokes
shows multiple time first. Yeah, but

1201
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:06.640
Chris Jones can literally demand more because
of his accolades. My bouque is only

1202
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:10.119
twenty six years old, though.
Yeah. Oh, he's going to get

1203
01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.479
a nice cotch. I'm not saying
he's gonna be cheap. I'm just saying

1204
01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:15.039
he bultimate even let him walk.
I guess it just page they might have

1205
01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.800
to, Yeah, like they with
all the people they're gonna have to pay

1206
01:17:18.880 --> 01:17:24.760
Kyle Hamilton. They just paid Marcus
Williams, they just paid obij, they

1207
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:29.560
just paid Lamar obj is up after
this year? Is here? One year

1208
01:17:29.680 --> 01:17:34.640
he's gone? Man, bo is
available. I would yeah, I'm not.

1209
01:17:35.079 --> 01:17:39.399
Yeah, I called. I said
that like fucking months ago. Yeah

1210
01:17:39.439 --> 01:17:42.000
you did. And they were allowing
pipe dreams. This is like, this

1211
01:17:42.199 --> 01:17:45.920
is that's one. Christian Wilkins would
not be a bad not be a bad.

1212
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:51.520
What's it called pick up compensatory prior. Yeah, a lot of these

1213
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:57.439
names too. I would stay away
from flexcher Cox only because he's older.

1214
01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.279
He is pretty old. Yeah,
but everybody else, I'm mean, it's

1215
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:03.399
not a bad. DJ Readers,
Sheldon Rankins. This is who's number one

1216
01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:09.199
on this list few terms of fit, price everything, mount of Bookies number

1217
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:13.119
one for me for sure, and
christ Christian Wilkins probably. I would say

1218
01:18:13.199 --> 01:18:16.279
Leonard Williams two for me, yeah, because I think price wise too.

1219
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:20.399
Might be with Ford LeAnn Williams as
well. Yeah. Man, it's tough.

1220
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:24.640
Yeah, anyone either one of these, anybody on this list, anybody

1221
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:28.159
on this list would have me full
mass. I'm appy sure he's with the

1222
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:31.239
Titans, right, the guy from
Titans. Yeah, Glover Stewart is at

1223
01:18:31.279 --> 01:18:36.560
the Beaten Colts course. Yeah,
he Glover Stewart. He is good,

1224
01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:43.359
but he's playing next to uh,
what's his name, the big ass motherfucker.

1225
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:48.720
He's drafted by quit pay not pay, forty Niners drafted him. He's

1226
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:54.239
huge, like a freaking forest buckner. Yeah, yeah, the forest Buckner,

1227
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.640
Like it's gonna make anybody look a
lot him against DJ had a quad

1228
01:18:59.680 --> 01:19:02.600
injury. I think that's a second
quad injury. Yeah, probably out on

1229
01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:05.840
that one. Then Christian Wilkins for
me, it's my book here, Christian

1230
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:13.359
Wilkins. Yeah, I feel like
Christian Wilkins does what Elm does though,

1231
01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:17.760
or you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, put another on this defensive I'd

1232
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:20.880
be pretty good. Yeah that's true, that's true. Yeah for me,

1233
01:19:20.960 --> 01:19:24.439
I probably. I mean I've always
liked Lening Williams. Probably a little bit

1234
01:19:24.439 --> 01:19:27.319
biasing it, but he's my number
two, a little more athletic. Yeah,

1235
01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:31.359
but yeah M is number one.
I'd be all in the throw the

1236
01:19:31.399 --> 01:19:36.880
back of him. Yeah. Uh, Bean Royd for twenty I don't know

1237
01:19:38.279 --> 01:19:40.840
how much dis wist apply you stocked
up on, but he said, would

1238
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:44.079
you give up paying cj DJ for
Chris Jones gonna take a lot more than

1239
01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:48.399
that. Right, Yes, I
don't get the obsessed with c J DJ.

1240
01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.479
I really don't we twelve and five
even play like the whole season.

1241
01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.520
I mean, if who looked a
phenomenal out there, I'm cool with.

1242
01:19:56.920 --> 01:20:00.119
Yeah, Brian branch On the Nickel
spot, there is no need for like

1243
01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.279
CJ. I get it was fun. I get the spirit he brought,

1244
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:06.079
and I love the trash talk he
had for all the teams. The Baker

1245
01:20:06.159 --> 01:20:10.880
Mayfield situation that was fucking dope.
It's not isn't a need. No,

1246
01:20:11.000 --> 01:20:13.760
it's not a need. So I
don't I don't like your needs are up

1247
01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.560
on it. Your needs are outside, cornerback and defensive. Lucas saying the

1248
01:20:16.600 --> 01:20:19.560
same thing too, Why are we
hung up on again, all due respect,

1249
01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:21.600
why we hung up on a guy
we don't need? We have those

1250
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:25.279
positions field. Yeah, and it's
not like CJ is not going to break

1251
01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:30.560
the bank though, that's the one
thing. It's it's not CJ signing c

1252
01:20:30.680 --> 01:20:32.680
J Guardian Johnson or not is not
going to be a deciding factory or whether

1253
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:36.760
you can afford Chris Jones or not. Chris Jones is gonna he's gonna break

1254
01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:40.600
the fucking bank. That dude's gonna
make twenty five plus million a year.

1255
01:20:40.880 --> 01:20:44.479
I just won't even Like it's like
if it comes at a discount, Yeah,

1256
01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:46.640
but I doesn't come in a discount, And I just it's just not

1257
01:20:46.720 --> 01:20:49.880
a need. There's no point in
like burning the cash and that if you're

1258
01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:53.680
if you're chasing them out of buquet
or chasing the ring. At this point,

1259
01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:57.199
it's like fill the spots we don't
have and we can worry about that.

1260
01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:00.359
It kind of reminds me of Chark
in a sense of like where you

1261
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:02.039
were just like arguing and I was
like, I don't see where the big

1262
01:21:02.119 --> 01:21:04.880
pay raise is going to be.
I don't see how he could even ask

1263
01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:09.439
for more than he got this year. Like I for him, it was

1264
01:21:09.439 --> 01:21:12.119
like a market thing, but we
didn't know. I wasn't aware the injury

1265
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.279
he had, the ankle surgery.
Oh Ark, Yeah, I don't.

1266
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:16.960
I don't think. Yeah. I
think CJ is gonna Like I said,

1267
01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:19.520
if you can sign it for two
to two for ten and then you end

1268
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:24.840
up cutting ties with Tracy Walker,
I'd be fine with that. Expect a

1269
01:21:24.840 --> 01:21:27.560
lot of people just disrespectful, really
dismissing what we saw in an iffy and

1270
01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.319
I just like, I think what
he what he could is insane. It

1271
01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:33.239
is important, Yeah, death is
important, but you could draft that depth.

1272
01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:36.960
I'm saying, like, and you
want to talk about injuries all dudes.

1273
01:21:38.119 --> 01:21:40.399
I mean that's a guy's kind of
been hr consisted though his career too.

1274
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:45.880
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right, we're talking about detri Liance
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1299
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:49.479
I gotta play Welcome to James.
Sorry, mine not the gutter, Mine

1300
01:23:49.479 --> 01:23:54.159
not the gutter either way, how
about I was just thinking about this too.

1301
01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:56.520
Just now. It's like we're looking
at these top ten lists, but

1302
01:23:56.640 --> 01:24:00.399
no one, Brad and every single
racy class you've ever gone to, it's

1303
01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:02.880
never a CJ was the first.
Like top ten guys, we can dream

1304
01:24:03.119 --> 01:24:08.079
today is dreamland. We get a
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1305
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:13.840
We live in reality. Chris,
all right, let's let's see those quarterbacks.

1306
01:24:14.039 --> 01:24:17.920
No apologize, he's sorry, Chris, all right, I'll take that.

1307
01:24:18.119 --> 01:24:24.960
You put the quarterbacks on there,
Mark mar thank you for apologizing.

1308
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:30.479
Spencer. I think the first fall
off hard first. Stephan Gilmour would not

1309
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:35.319
be bad at all anymore, Sean
Murphy Bunting, I wanted you went to

1310
01:24:35.920 --> 01:24:42.119
went to school with Jackson. Ain't
bad like Dory Jackson. Stephan Gilmour is

1311
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:45.279
the one that I look at like, Okay, that's realistic, Jerry.

1312
01:24:45.720 --> 01:24:49.479
I think Jalen and Lugerius are both
gonna get franchised or stay with their team.

1313
01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:53.840
Either way if they get a contract
or they get franchise. Do you

1314
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:58.800
franchise somebody doesn't have to fit within
the cap space. It's yeah, yes

1315
01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:00.960
it does. It's one of hundred
percent on the cap because like if they're

1316
01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:03.840
I don't know what to do with
Chris Jones. I mean, they're not

1317
01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:06.800
signing Chris Jones is not going to
be a Kansas City chief next year.

1318
01:25:06.960 --> 01:25:11.359
Yeah, I'm not just king,
I'm not saying, you know, you

1319
01:25:11.479 --> 01:25:14.199
know why to keep both of me. You think Stephanie would be options as

1320
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.279
his brother is here? Yes,
yeah, yeah, I think he's an

1321
01:25:16.319 --> 01:25:21.800
option as he's he's on the older
side and yeah, yeah, but he's

1322
01:25:21.840 --> 01:25:26.239
still a dog. Yeah he's not. He went out there and made plays,

1323
01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:30.319
and he would be good at mentoring
the young guys. And I would

1324
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:31.880
I would like to see stephan gilmore. That would be pretty cool. And

1325
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:36.760
I want to speed Guydorri Jackson.
Yeah, like I want pretty fast because

1326
01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:43.159
I remember listening jackson really podcast and
e Q was kind of just taking shots

1327
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.600
our defense a little bit, like
we guys have like who's a fast guy

1328
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:47.600
on defense? And I was like, well, probably Jerry Jacobs, And

1329
01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:50.880
like, as much as we like
Jerry Jacobs, he's not like super fast

1330
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:54.880
or anything like that, I think
we need some of that. I don't

1331
01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:57.479
know, man could be I could
be off in that. I think Stephan

1332
01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:00.680
Gilmore can get it done even without
being the fastest. Yeah, he's driving

1333
01:26:00.720 --> 01:26:05.600
to cost too much, dude,
but so low he fall off in my

1334
01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:09.600
MISSISSI. I don't know Sean m
Button. He had a bad year man

1335
01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:13.640
us right, Yeah, Yeah,
it's a bad year man, key Shot

1336
01:26:13.720 --> 01:26:17.239
Nixon. That's Chad's boy, right, yeah, but he's turn on his

1337
01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.479
list. I don't think it gets
start. I guess he did a few

1338
01:26:20.520 --> 01:26:25.399
this year. Yeah, because they
trade away what's his name's Douglas? This

1339
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.319
is falls off hard at the two. Yeah, yeah, all right,

1340
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:31.119
if you had to pick between,
it's kind of going back to you would

1341
01:26:31.159 --> 01:26:36.439
you rather what draft guy? Is
there a guy in his class though?

1342
01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:44.359
That like is guy besides him?
Because state I can't remember his name?

1343
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:46.960
Say that white dude? What's his
name? The Great? White? Hope

1344
01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:50.439
is the great? Well he's gonna
be He's gonna be the first white dude

1345
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:58.079
to start the quarterback NFL like thirty
years. He's actually we should draft him.

1346
01:26:58.119 --> 01:27:02.560
I like how he looks. He
is a player, you know,

1347
01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:10.960
Dan Campbell like sometimes athletic sneaking athletic, real, somebody you take on the

1348
01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:16.439
mom. He is a guy,
yeah, high character, scrappy, scrappy,

1349
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:23.039
yeah, you know those things though
he is like literally, I don't

1350
01:27:23.039 --> 01:27:27.239
think he's sneaky athletics, like the
man's athletic. Athletic you gotta be as

1351
01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:30.399
a white corner, you have to
be the most athletic. Seriously, he

1352
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:33.640
is that his mom telling the truth, like, yeah, your Millman.

1353
01:27:35.399 --> 01:27:43.359
You never see a guy named Blake
Griffin. Sean Murvy button played for the

1354
01:27:43.439 --> 01:27:47.760
Titans this year, Tighten, Yeah, yeah, I mean there was just

1355
01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:51.640
there was bad this year in general. Between the list and the draft talk,

1356
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:57.560
I feel like the option for corner
is it not just make a trade

1357
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:00.399
like that's that. That's I don't
know if you're trading. I don't know

1358
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:03.880
if anybody's trading a high value corner. I know, but I mean Jalen

1359
01:28:03.960 --> 01:28:08.680
Ramsey gotten down last year. So
I mean it's like it's possible that it's

1360
01:28:08.720 --> 01:28:12.319
possible that a high level corner could
become a somebody take Aaron Rodgers, may

1361
01:28:12.520 --> 01:28:15.119
make a trade for for sauce for
sauce. Yeah, that'd be that'd be

1362
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:23.920
that'd be perfect, bro, perfect
man. Yeah, but come on,

1363
01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:29.399
that's too much for even dream.
I was just joking with that, but

1364
01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:33.279
but it seems like that is probably
the best, the best ways to count

1365
01:28:33.359 --> 01:28:39.439
on somebody being unhappy with their contract
or their next their next situation like Jayalen

1366
01:28:39.520 --> 01:28:44.159
Ramsey was last year and becoming available
and then and then you talk yourself into

1367
01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:47.720
that. I think maybe it is
maybe they do a sign and trade gerous

1368
01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:58.159
like you. They got Cooper Degene
ranked number one in the cornerback rankings.

1369
01:28:58.359 --> 01:29:02.039
It's for sure, white guy.
Yeah, it's for sure a Todd Kool

1370
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:05.960
It's four. Damn, this is
how old this is? No to be

1371
01:29:06.000 --> 01:29:11.399
fair, my guys, we had
him on before Connor Rodgers his his what

1372
01:29:11.520 --> 01:29:13.680
the hell is his name? I
forget his name. I apologize. They

1373
01:29:13.680 --> 01:29:16.720
have a dope as draft podcast.
PFF, that's pff. Who's the name

1374
01:29:16.760 --> 01:29:20.279
on it? Gotta be a Todd, Don't tell me it's my guy.

1375
01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:28.520
Let me see Trevor Trevor sick.
Yeah, all right, Maybe we reached

1376
01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.600
out to him earlier than I expected. Yeah, I was just talking to

1377
01:29:30.680 --> 01:29:33.079
him like, he's got Cooper Degit
number one, he's got Nate Wiggins out

1378
01:29:33.119 --> 01:29:38.479
of Clemson, number two. Wiggins
is a legiti ball skilled shutdown athletic abilities.

1379
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:42.079
He is more consistent and run defense
and overall strength part of his game.

1380
01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:45.279
At the top of the list of
corners you'd want to tell go make

1381
01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.960
sure the receiver doesn't catch the ball. And number three, he's got Tron

1382
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:55.720
Arnold from Alabama number two, Nate
Wiggins number one, he's got Cooper number

1383
01:29:55.760 --> 01:29:58.960
two. Do you watch? Do
you watch like I do? But not

1384
01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:01.960
not this last year? Okay,
yeah, mostly Michigan games when he counted,

1385
01:30:02.000 --> 01:30:04.920
So I want to see this guy's
Nick Wiggans. Guys, you know

1386
01:30:05.000 --> 01:30:08.159
what Tonight Tonight I'll do the Home
I'm gonna reach out to Dean too,

1387
01:30:08.680 --> 01:30:10.640
because Dion want to do the Senior
Bowl. I gotta be honest, I've

1388
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:12.359
been so locked up in lines.
I don't even know who's like in the

1389
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:15.960
Senior but muscles out there cooking people. I know there's somebody else that I

1390
01:30:15.039 --> 01:30:19.399
got. Mike Payton posted Cooper Degene
is the eighth ranked prospect of PFF.

1391
01:30:19.600 --> 01:30:27.000
Damn is he that good? For? He is like very good? Bring

1392
01:30:27.119 --> 01:30:30.600
him home. He's a very good
cover corner as well as outside corner.

1393
01:30:30.800 --> 01:30:45.359
Yes, as well as racist right
now? Are you sure? Oh my

1394
01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:50.640
god, he's actually he's very good
in coverage. He's a very solid tackler,

1395
01:30:50.720 --> 01:30:55.159
and he's a he's a freak athlete. When that means we would have

1396
01:30:55.239 --> 01:30:57.720
to trade up in that case,
yeah, we would have to trade up

1397
01:30:57.720 --> 01:30:59.840
to get him. I'm sure.
I want to look at this name.

1398
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:03.199
How crazy though you think like the
prospect or not the prospect, but like

1399
01:31:03.239 --> 01:31:11.000
the guy outside. Do we want
to do this? Nate Wiggins? Nate

1400
01:31:11.479 --> 01:31:15.600
six? He positive video? He
positive? Come on, what are we

1401
01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:19.279
doing? You don't even watch it
for real? I'm gonna have to watch

1402
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:23.640
his name, Nate Wiggins. I'm
like you when I'll see it so far,

1403
01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:27.520
I'm not going on you watch them
right now? Yeah, thanks for

1404
01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:29.399
being part of the show. I
mean, I don't know, man,

1405
01:31:30.039 --> 01:31:33.319
I've sold on Cooper. This guy
sounds like the real deal, the mere

1406
01:31:33.439 --> 01:31:39.119
spectacle of it. He's no,
he's literally like it's also he's very very

1407
01:31:39.199 --> 01:31:42.920
good. He's a very very good
cornerback to the forty nine ers. It's

1408
01:31:43.000 --> 01:31:47.479
well and as being like, of
course you would say, he's very very

1409
01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:53.039
Yeah, you're the only guys and
get going. He's extremely marketable too.

1410
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:58.239
Yeah, it's true. Dan Campbell
guy to be marketable, he'd be on

1411
01:31:58.279 --> 01:32:01.880
every podcast for sure. Sure,
it's yeah, because he'd be the first.

1412
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:06.640
He's the great white Joey Morrison would
buy his jersey and a heart for

1413
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:14.680
sure. We finally got one.
It's Jerry Snead. I know he's a

1414
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:18.000
dog. He's like a is he
shadowing receivers or he just like playing his

1415
01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:21.720
side the field type of guy.
I think he plays mostly his side his

1416
01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:26.640
side. Yeah, So is that
worth like a best of a ship Ton

1417
01:32:26.720 --> 01:32:30.399
into I mean I think so if
you keep camp sudden, I would assume

1418
01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:32.520
so, because he's really a two. If you get him a dominant one,

1419
01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:39.199
then I think it looks a lot
better on defense man. Who would

1420
01:32:39.239 --> 01:32:49.399
you rather? Cooper is gonna make
an if? Yeah? No, but

1421
01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:53.319
for real, like that kid's good. Kirby Joseph last night or I guess

1422
01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:55.560
two nights ago, he was Have
you got some of those tweets? He

1423
01:32:55.600 --> 01:32:58.800
just frying people on Twitter, Instagram, whatever, But pull him up,

1424
01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:01.760
say the that mean his own thing. But he had mentioned somebody asked him

1425
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:03.520
like, what's dB in this draft
pass we like to play with? He

1426
01:33:03.560 --> 01:33:08.920
said, sanstro and somebody and chaps
santral is too small. I'm not I

1427
01:33:08.920 --> 01:33:14.720
wouldn't. He's not gonna be a
first round pick first, he's going to

1428
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:17.840
be a mid round pick. And
he's not big enough to be a lockdown

1429
01:33:17.920 --> 01:33:21.239
corner like we need. I like
him, he's got good ball skills.

1430
01:33:21.279 --> 01:33:26.479
But if you're drafting a lockdown corner
on Michigan and be fucking Cornelius Johnson,

1431
01:33:26.600 --> 01:33:29.239
absolutely for sure. Yeah yeah,
but he's not coming. You can't come

1432
01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:33.079
out. Yeah you're senior five to
ten seventy five pounds. Yeah, damn

1433
01:33:33.880 --> 01:33:38.840
five pounds. I told you he's
not a big guy. Damn. Because

1434
01:33:38.840 --> 01:33:41.239
I remember all the ship they're talking
about, the one end up going to

1435
01:33:41.600 --> 01:33:45.399
Washington grad a interceptions. Jeff loved
him. I don' remember his name,

1436
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:50.520
tall lanky dude. Yeah, I
know he was doing straight until receivers learns

1437
01:33:50.920 --> 01:33:55.920
grab them, motherfucker. Yeah.
I think it was a J. Brown.

1438
01:33:56.159 --> 01:33:59.520
I was like, oh god,
he was Mississippi State little boy.

1439
01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:00.720
Yeah. I can't remember his name
either the way, but I remember the

1440
01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:03.000
big thing about him. He's weighed
one hundred and seventyounds and they make it

1441
01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:08.039
a big deal about it. Maybe
yeah, like Sanza Sility he's not the

1442
01:34:08.159 --> 01:34:11.600
guy you draft to be your lockdown
corner. Yeah. Is he an outside

1443
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:14.159
guy? He is. He can
play outside, he can play inside as

1444
01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:15.640
well. But he'd be a nice
piece to have. He'd be a good

1445
01:34:15.640 --> 01:34:21.319
depth piece. Yeah, so Eli
Forbes, Emmanuel Forbes. Yeah, that's

1446
01:34:21.359 --> 01:34:25.520
it. Shout John Hughes for that
one. So where you have this though,

1447
01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:29.159
would you rather go draft or corner
or I would that's yeah, that's

1448
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:30.840
why I want to go draft a
corner and sign a defensive lineman. That's

1449
01:34:30.920 --> 01:34:34.680
kg what you updated to take.
I mean, with the line of interior

1450
01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:39.000
defensive lineman man, even the edge
rushers, it's a pretty good list.

1451
01:34:39.119 --> 01:34:41.640
Man. I might play in my
flag for Nate Wiggans kid. I'm not

1452
01:34:41.680 --> 01:34:44.960
gonna lie. He looked like he
looks pretty good. I'm gonna definitely.

1453
01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:50.439
He's six to one six one ninety
five pounds, So look, okay,

1454
01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:55.319
I'm gonna I'm gonna look up his
I'm gonna deep dive into his film later.

1455
01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:57.800
But it looks pretty good from what
I was just wanting. Might have

1456
01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:00.439
to change my choice, but I
really don't want an another young cornerback there.

1457
01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:08.520
I just don't because he's because he's
white. Give we get the great

1458
01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:12.640
white hope. That's a little different, to be honest. They love Iowa

1459
01:35:12.760 --> 01:35:15.479
dudes, and we looked at you
know, Philadelphia call him the Philadelphia Dogs.

1460
01:35:15.520 --> 01:35:20.720
We are the Detroit Hawkeye, says
is an extent with Aaron Stoner says,

1461
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:26.239
just wondering, are there any Spartys
that is worth damn getting drafted this

1462
01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:33.039
year? Kobe uh Choby coming out? Yeah, Kobe women might we are.

1463
01:35:33.119 --> 01:35:41.880
Punter is very good bear. Everybody
laughed at him. He was number

1464
01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:45.079
one punter in the league this year. He's all pro okay as a rookie,

1465
01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:48.199
all right. And the kicker if
he's coming back or kickers, and

1466
01:35:56.800 --> 01:36:00.760
all the good guys are underclassmen.
Jared Hall, he's gonna be a stud.

1467
01:36:00.000 --> 01:36:02.640
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Nova who open the every other one
day? Sorry, guys, we went

1490
01:38:05.920 --> 01:38:12.800
for a D D guy. There's
a mustache that's wild, you distracting,

1491
01:38:12.880 --> 01:38:15.520
spinning always flinches and we have to
take a ship? Do I get the

1492
01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.880
hoop spell? He's one of those. It hits me. We're all over

1493
01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:23.039
the place. That was for most. That's some free agents. I guess

1494
01:38:23.039 --> 01:38:26.800
they're available. There is one they
actually want to ask you guys, knowing

1495
01:38:26.880 --> 01:38:30.359
that John Jackson might be leaving,
and it kind of caught me by surprise.

1496
01:38:30.439 --> 01:38:32.399
Brad Spielberger at the top ten.
Like every position he pumped into your

1497
01:38:32.439 --> 01:38:39.000
offensive linement list. Check this out
because obviously the number one, Hey,

1498
01:38:39.199 --> 01:38:42.880
he's probably's probably top three. He's
got to the top three. I'm still

1499
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:46.640
letting you go. Not even on
the list. Wow, not even on

1500
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:53.760
the list. Damn. So a
couple of things. One does that make

1501
01:38:53.880 --> 01:39:00.600
him cheaper? Two is something even
that's pretty crazy? Not even on the

1502
01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:04.600
list now, grant some of these
guys are sinners, but majority of our

1503
01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:11.920
guards. Wow, right, I
thought Jonah would be I mean, where

1504
01:39:11.960 --> 01:39:15.239
do you think Evan Brown would have
been on the list last year? Probably

1505
01:39:15.319 --> 01:39:18.760
not top ten And he still got
a nice check from Seattle, so like

1506
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:23.560
eleven. Yeah, I think,
which was like surprising when we saw how

1507
01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:26.960
much you got. I remember we
were like damn. And I think Jonah

1508
01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:30.840
is a better offensive lineman than Evan
Brown is. Sure, so he's going

1509
01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.760
to command a little bit more.
I don't know if it's the injury concerns.

1510
01:39:34.079 --> 01:39:38.279
Oh wow, no, Evan Brown
got he'll signed for two million?

1511
01:39:38.520 --> 01:39:42.399
Really? Yeah? I remember that
was expected. Oh yeah, yeah,

1512
01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:47.079
Jonah might be coming back then maybe
if they if they're doing a last run

1513
01:39:47.159 --> 01:39:51.079
like Jordan'm I mean yeah, Joe. Evan Brown's expected was like thirteen million.

1514
01:39:51.159 --> 01:39:54.279
Yeah, something crazy. I was
like, fuck, no spending you

1515
01:39:54.319 --> 01:39:58.920
a line guy. You think Jonah
is better than anybody on this? Yeah?

1516
01:39:59.359 --> 01:40:01.760
I really only know Kevin Dotson,
Christian Barry. Yeah, I mean

1517
01:40:03.079 --> 01:40:05.880
I know Dalton Riser is very good. Dalton, He's not better than Dulton,

1518
01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:15.880
Risner's Alloyd Cushion, Barry, He's
not the players I know on this

1519
01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:23.079
list are Kevin Dotson, Kevin Zeitler. I heard Cland Vikings got traded,

1520
01:40:23.119 --> 01:40:26.039
though, I don't think he's better
than any of those. For the Browns

1521
01:40:26.079 --> 01:40:33.159
idiot Ezra Cleveland, he played flash, he was flash. But I think

1522
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:36.800
Jonah Jonah deserves to be on this
list. I mean, he's not like

1523
01:40:38.079 --> 01:40:45.119
Cushion. That's funny. He's in
Minnesota. They got trade to Jacksonville.

1524
01:40:45.279 --> 01:40:47.800
Yeah, I don't think he's better
than you say. He's not better than

1525
01:40:47.840 --> 01:40:53.439
Kevin Dodson or Kevin Ziegler, but
he should be on this list. Dalton

1526
01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:56.000
Risner is a very good player as
well. If I'm being honest with you,

1527
01:40:56.079 --> 01:40:58.840
guys, like I know we're looking
at this list like the apossible phrage

1528
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:00.720
that we would sign, I'd probably
go draft. Yeah, you know that's

1529
01:41:00.720 --> 01:41:04.159
the way to go because I think
a lot of these guys are probably third

1530
01:41:04.199 --> 01:41:13.439
to four, went in there and
did fine, did against No, you're

1531
01:41:13.439 --> 01:41:15.560
not wrong though, I mean,
and that's what we've been like with Jonah

1532
01:41:15.640 --> 01:41:19.800
too. I mean Jonah and Graham, they kind of has both been like

1533
01:41:20.359 --> 01:41:24.520
that guard position on your side,
feel like revolving door off different players.

1534
01:41:24.560 --> 01:41:28.479
Like these past years, we're still
casting the top three, top five offensive

1535
01:41:28.479 --> 01:41:30.279
line of league both these years.
What are you going about, Chris,

1536
01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:38.960
Dude, that's funny. He is
not Lloyd Cushionberry that. I think it's

1537
01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:44.560
the injury stuff might be keeping him
off that list. Maybe, I don't

1538
01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:47.279
know, because he's very good when
he plays. He has had quite quite

1539
01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:50.520
a bit of the injuries. Get
injured every year. If it's two million,

1540
01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:55.039
I haven't Brown signed. Are you
bringing them back? Yeah? Yeah,

1541
01:41:55.600 --> 01:41:59.880
I would for sure, especially with
Frank up in the air. I

1542
01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:01.279
really feel like that might be on
some like again last dance stuff. I

1543
01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:05.000
mean, it's just kind of this
Ben coming back was a surprise. That

1544
01:42:05.199 --> 01:42:10.640
is a surprise. Anything is possible. Kevin Gurnett, could you were going

1545
01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:13.319
to say he'd come back? Were
you? Yeah? Were you still surprised?

1546
01:42:13.680 --> 01:42:15.760
Yeah? I did think he would
get the Washington job, but after

1547
01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:19.399
you know, they all these hiringts
kind of you know, win a quick

1548
01:42:19.680 --> 01:42:23.920
I figured he would probably stay.
Yeah. Yeah, but he turned down

1549
01:42:24.000 --> 01:42:26.680
Seattle too. I felt like that
was a good destination too. Yeah,

1550
01:42:26.920 --> 01:42:33.159
So I don't know. One last
ride, one last ride. That's kind

1551
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:36.720
of depressing. They want to know
if Chris has been you do play path

1552
01:42:36.800 --> 01:42:40.840
today or tomorrow. I mean,
I'm ready whatever. If we want to

1553
01:42:40.880 --> 01:42:44.359
do it today, well I'm out
tomorrow. But Thursday or Friday. Yeah,

1554
01:42:44.399 --> 01:42:46.119
it's going to celebrate his Grammar's birthday
for the sixth time, dude,

1555
01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:53.279
the second time I had family in
town for surprise family gathering, and then

1556
01:42:53.279 --> 01:42:56.079
today's our actual birthday. So we're
going out today. Shout out Graham,

1557
01:42:56.199 --> 01:42:58.439
Yeah, shout out. Oh,
you know, we can get in actually

1558
01:42:58.439 --> 01:43:03.560
before we do, go to break
actually, Frank ragnow clip oh getting into

1559
01:43:03.560 --> 01:43:06.279
your off its wineman. We got
a tweet. I don't know about a

1560
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:10.119
clip. Where's the clip? Oh? I don't think actually, you know,

1561
01:43:10.199 --> 01:43:14.760
I definitely did not send it.
Yeah, but quote, yeah,

1562
01:43:14.760 --> 01:43:17.560
I do the quote. Oh the
Kirby tweets. Shout the Brad Holmes bulge.

1563
01:43:17.680 --> 01:43:20.880
You want to make sure I got
sho this one. That's where from

1564
01:43:23.279 --> 01:43:26.760
quote Twitter? Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, okay, oh yeah,

1565
01:43:26.840 --> 01:43:32.159
no, Relax, I thought it's
gonna I thought it was give you

1566
01:43:32.199 --> 01:43:35.800
the picture shout that. Too many
big balls making great great pics. Have

1567
01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:39.439
you seen the picture of Herve Dan
that's one floating around Twitter. He's like

1568
01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:49.720
staring at that. Dude's Bulge's so
funny, but this okay, shout out

1569
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:54.760
Brad Holmes bulge, along with knees
and ankle injuries ragged now. His battles

1570
01:43:54.840 --> 01:44:00.479
recruiting or reoccurring toe problems for three
seasons and also was listed on the injury

1571
01:44:00.600 --> 01:44:02.960
report this year with a back injury. He said he's going to take some

1572
01:44:03.119 --> 01:44:06.399
time this offseason to figure out his
health. It takes a toll on you

1573
01:44:06.520 --> 01:44:09.680
right now, says, it really
takes a toll on you. So I

1574
01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:13.560
need to find a way to get
to Frank. And I don't regret any

1575
01:44:13.600 --> 01:44:16.119
of this at all, but it
weighs on you. I'm just going to

1576
01:44:16.239 --> 01:44:20.000
take some time to really figure everything
out and to make sure I'm feeling good

1577
01:44:20.279 --> 01:44:25.000
not only for me the football player, but for me the best husband and

1578
01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:30.439
best father and everything with that as
well. So it does that does sound

1579
01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:34.840
a little yeah, uh retiree when
you when you talk about it like that,

1580
01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:46.680
but bros are retired retired. But
also Frank, I love you,

1581
01:44:46.760 --> 01:44:50.600
buddy. I spoke about your bulge
the last time we want to play the

1582
01:44:50.760 --> 01:44:56.720
game on this very mic. But
Frank, take all the time you fucking

1583
01:44:56.760 --> 01:44:59.039
need. Man. You don't got
to show up until a week before the

1584
01:44:59.119 --> 01:45:01.039
first game. We know who you
are, we know what you bring,

1585
01:45:01.199 --> 01:45:04.880
you know this system, you know
your teammates, you know Jared Goff.

1586
01:45:05.920 --> 01:45:09.880
Take all the time you want.
Man. You could skip ot as,

1587
01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:13.680
you could skip mini camp. I
don't care. As long as you're there

1588
01:45:13.720 --> 01:45:15.600
week one, game one, that's
all that matters. You don't have to

1589
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:21.720
show up until the walk through before
the first game. Yeah. I believe

1590
01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:26.159
in Frank. I know he'll keep
his body ready to go if he does

1591
01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:29.359
decide to come back. Yeah,
if he retires, can't you blame him

1592
01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:40.359
though he's injury report for five different
serious back toe ankle o, Man,

1593
01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:44.960
Frank's one hundred thousand dollars or forty
like that. Guy can stay out as

1594
01:45:45.039 --> 01:45:47.079
long as he needs to get right. If he's coming back, thank god.

1595
01:45:47.119 --> 01:45:49.239
If he doesn't, Frank, we
love you, appreciate you everything.

1596
01:45:49.359 --> 01:45:51.640
Yees seriously. Yeah, I do
hope he comes back. And I said

1597
01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:55.800
we need him back. I don't
want to say we need him back,

1598
01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:59.000
but it is an extremely pivotal part
of our offense. I think the return

1599
01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:02.399
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to the Woman Heavyweights final segment.
Here, We've got a couple things to

1630
01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:48.479
go through. Appreciate you off of
being with us. Make sure you smash

1631
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that like, but just me and
share the stream for easy for KG For

1632
01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.319
Chris, I am Spencer. We
are the heavyweights. We've had a great

1633
01:48:57.399 --> 01:49:00.159
day to day and somebody's been having
a great day on Twitter the past couple

1634
01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:04.520
of days, and that has been
one Kirby Joseph. Kirby Joseph has been

1635
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:10.560
going absolutely nuts on haters on Twitter. It is so funny. This is

1636
01:49:10.680 --> 01:49:14.720
one of my favorite. Uh,
this is one of my favorite. I

1637
01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:17.520
took a screenshot of and sent it
in and it was it's a quote of

1638
01:49:17.640 --> 01:49:23.560
a tweet that he tweeted that someone
made a quote of, and he quoted

1639
01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:28.399
the tweet of the quote. His
quotes and the quote that the tweet is

1640
01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:32.079
quoted of Jesus say, why would
I retire? Now? I'm just getting

1641
01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:36.880
started. I'm still far like a
motherfucker. He quoted that and said words

1642
01:49:36.960 --> 01:49:41.800
from a wise man, dude.
I fucking love Kirby Joseph. This ship

1643
01:49:41.920 --> 01:49:46.560
is hilarious. He's been absolutely obliterating
people. I said it another one.

1644
01:49:47.199 --> 01:49:49.239
You want that one right now?
Yeah, you can put that one up

1645
01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:51.760
as well, my man. I
sent my impairs. This is another one

1646
01:49:51.800 --> 01:49:57.960
of my favorites. The infamous feud. Some guy he's been talking shit,

1647
01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:01.000
some Rams fans been talking, Kirby's
been back, and the guys that lmao,

1648
01:50:01.159 --> 01:50:05.000
Bum had the time and Ballster was
fond and Kirby quoted and balls of

1649
01:50:05.039 --> 01:50:12.439
steel. I don't know how walking
around. I just picture Barrow like I

1650
01:50:13.760 --> 01:50:16.800
love Dan marsh and and wheel Barrow
like South Park. Oh yeah, oh

1651
01:50:16.880 --> 01:50:21.119
yeah, the Medicinal Fried Chicken.
Yes, I remember which movie it is,

1652
01:50:21.159 --> 01:50:25.039
but it replaces balls with like metal. I think it's I think it's

1653
01:50:25.439 --> 01:50:28.520
space Balls. No, I think
it's a J. Cody Banks or something

1654
01:50:28.560 --> 01:50:33.199
like that. It's some movie where
he gets his balls and places like metal

1655
01:50:33.239 --> 01:50:42.920
things say when he walks like probably. But I love this because Kurt is

1656
01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:45.600
taking his time out of the day
to fuck these trolls up on Twitter.

1657
01:50:46.000 --> 01:50:49.840
And he waited like he waited until
they were out of the playoffs. He's

1658
01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:54.079
like, Okay, now I got
time, and he's responded all these guys.

1659
01:50:54.079 --> 01:50:56.840
It's fucking awesome, dude. I
saw a couple of guys and then

1660
01:50:56.960 --> 01:51:01.000
I guess they are like on the
the runway to leave from California for like

1661
01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:08.319
three four hours. They actually took
off, so it was just it's got

1662
01:51:08.399 --> 01:51:11.880
time today, man, This ship's
awesome. Christy, the ones I sent

1663
01:51:11.960 --> 01:51:14.960
you, Yeah, did you want
the pictures with them like this? Yeah?

1664
01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:16.199
Yeah, if you don't mind,
just because these ones, because I

1665
01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:18.239
have the tweets, right, people
tweeted at me, so you can put

1666
01:51:18.239 --> 01:51:20.600
them together if you want. If
it's too late, it's fine. But

1667
01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:25.119
these people shout out these tweets and
basically, what Kirby did, I do

1668
01:51:25.199 --> 01:51:27.319
this too. Somebody has something to
say. I'll click on the profile picture

1669
01:51:27.359 --> 01:51:29.399
if you are stupid enough. But
this is a guy I hating on.

1670
01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:31.960
Kirby says, don't take out any
a c LS while jet skiing or just

1671
01:51:32.039 --> 01:51:35.960
by being beatn which is by being
you. And this is Kirby's response,

1672
01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:45.239
just uh took the man's profile picture? Yeah, hold on, christ all

1673
01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:48.079
right, so I thought they were
just zoomed in ones of the of the

1674
01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:53.239
actual like profile. You're good socially. He took his profile picture and ship

1675
01:51:53.319 --> 01:51:55.479
on them. But then the next
one, if you can put it up

1676
01:51:55.479 --> 01:51:57.800
on you, k if you want. The next one's my favorite, because

1677
01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:00.520
this was even the guy's like profile. This is by at least the worst

1678
01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.119
kind of troll, right, you
don't even have a profile picture yourself.

1679
01:52:03.359 --> 01:52:05.760
It's not even your name. You're
not standing on none of the ship that

1680
01:52:05.800 --> 01:52:11.119
you're talking. You just hide behind
fucking whatever your Twitter profile is. I

1681
01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:15.319
think that's the lamest ship. But
those here's this guy. Okay, so

1682
01:52:15.479 --> 01:52:19.000
can't wait to hear that Kirby Joseph
has a career ending injury. That guy

1683
01:52:19.119 --> 01:52:26.039
blows his profile picture. It's not
him, it's a picture of baby baby

1684
01:52:26.119 --> 01:52:30.239
Tron. So Kirby quotes, I
knows baby Tron, but he quotes the

1685
01:52:30.279 --> 01:52:32.439
profile picture. What the hell did
he say? We find it? He

1686
01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.479
just put like some crying emojis.
Yeah, yeah, he was laughing at

1687
01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:38.920
me. I said, bro,
crying emojis, but like literally no,

1688
01:52:39.159 --> 01:52:42.159
that's like not even baby trying.
Do you have what he said about the

1689
01:52:42.239 --> 01:52:46.560
other guy? He's just boy ugly
ship boy, you ugly fucking picture.

1690
01:52:48.760 --> 01:52:55.439
And then bro, you actually camp
can Yeah crazy. I ain't see it,

1691
01:52:55.520 --> 01:53:00.600
but I heard going wild to some
implies on Instagram is trying to get

1692
01:53:00.640 --> 01:53:02.520
canceled lines. Yeah, he was
using some words that he was making no

1693
01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:06.720
fans in front of he was one
of the words that describes the people in

1694
01:53:06.840 --> 01:53:17.600
Texas. He said, Anthony.
Dude, I love Kirby man. I

1695
01:53:17.680 --> 01:53:20.159
was just looking at he reteateted you. Yeah he did. Yeah, yeah,

1696
01:53:20.279 --> 01:53:25.399
shout out. That's my guy,
Savage. I met Kirby. We

1697
01:53:25.560 --> 01:53:29.119
met him at Felbit. Yeah,
I was there. I was there with

1698
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:31.920
Malcolm Game. Yeah, I was
late. He pulled up. I think

1699
01:53:31.920 --> 01:53:35.119
it was with Malcolm or no,
Malcolm came after, because I know I

1700
01:53:35.199 --> 01:53:39.039
came and I met Malcolm. Kirby
was like right before I think he I

1701
01:53:39.119 --> 01:53:42.800
forget who he was. There was
Josh Pescal Maybe I don't know, but

1702
01:53:43.279 --> 01:53:45.920
it was Yeah, it makes sense. That was the same class, right,

1703
01:53:45.079 --> 01:53:47.520
Yeah, yeah, it was dope. And Kirby is a cool guy.

1704
01:53:47.560 --> 01:53:50.720
Man. He's funny and that ship
is hilarious him just going at people

1705
01:53:51.960 --> 01:53:55.600
mail back, mail bag, where's
the mail bag? Questions? Mail bag

1706
01:53:55.640 --> 01:53:58.600
Spencer, you must be doing backflips
right now that Ben Johnson is staying.

1707
01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.279
Yes, I am baby, I
am as all Lions fans ship. He

1708
01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:09.279
is the man, for sure.
Anybody else. I wanted to read the

1709
01:54:09.279 --> 01:54:12.520
comments because I know I asked somebody
something as one of the a G people.

1710
01:54:13.720 --> 01:54:16.119
I said, uh, okay,
yeah it was Paul Thomas. He's

1711
01:54:16.159 --> 01:54:19.239
one of the residential a haters.
Yes, Paul, what's the biggest need

1712
01:54:19.279 --> 01:54:25.600
to position on this team? Corner
Okay is Paul, if you're still listening,

1713
01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:28.399
So you got cornerback as is the
number one need? What's the second

1714
01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:32.279
need position for the team. Don't
let it be another defensive player while you're

1715
01:54:32.319 --> 01:54:35.359
dog in ag. That's all I'm
saying. It definitely is don't let it

1716
01:54:35.399 --> 01:54:40.479
be ano defensive player if you want
it their dog ag. If you opportunity

1717
01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:44.560
to go into battle with like you
know, equivalent armory as Ben Johnson,

1718
01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:46.439
I would say four of the top
five needs for this team are defensive place.

1719
01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:51.119
Yes, I'd say so. And
then five is a kicker. Ye

1720
01:54:51.119 --> 01:54:55.720
had the fact that he's interviewing you
as a head coach from the teams.

1721
01:54:56.279 --> 01:54:59.159
He's a bad defensive coarter. I
don't think those guys are getting head coaching

1722
01:54:59.199 --> 01:55:03.359
positions or interviewing FD coaching positions,
and just they're just not a smart one

1723
01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:08.199
guys. I really don't huh.
I said, they're just not as smart

1724
01:55:08.199 --> 01:55:13.159
as have Clearly, Lloyd Ostrander,
not to be confused with Lloyd Cushion Berry

1725
01:55:13.760 --> 01:55:16.720
says definitely not. How do we
kill same old Lions fans. That ship

1726
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.720
is annoying. Well, I don't, guys, you're killing anybody, but

1727
01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:23.600
yeah, you're not gonna They're gonna
beat them. They're gonna be answer.

1728
01:55:23.720 --> 01:55:27.920
ANSWER's gonna answer. Paul thom Do
you ever that that they know? No?

1729
01:55:28.439 --> 01:55:32.079
No, God be honest though,
the way that game trouble, I

1730
01:55:32.119 --> 01:55:36.720
don't want to hear it. You
shut your Hornmones. I'm just saying,

1731
01:55:39.479 --> 01:55:43.680
second position. Paul Thomas has defensive
tackle, so we got cornerback defensive and

1732
01:55:43.680 --> 01:55:47.840
then number three is a rusher.
Yeah, and number four is probably cornerback

1733
01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.640
again. I got answer. Was
looking like somebody Nick would have draft,

1734
01:55:50.920 --> 01:55:55.359
Yeah, for sure, was looking
like somebody Nick would have drafted. He's

1735
01:55:55.439 --> 01:56:00.880
definitely looking cute in the first pick, the Governor le JK Cruiser. This

1736
01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:02.600
is not a mail bag, but
it was stabbed in Grand Rapids three years

1737
01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:06.159
ago. I stabbed three times up
in Grand Rapids years ago. Who was

1738
01:56:06.239 --> 01:56:14.159
he was? That's yeah, sorry, bro, clearly you want to wear

1739
01:56:14.239 --> 01:56:16.720
that conversation. That one's done.
I do keep that negative ship. I'll

1740
01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:21.840
swear mail bag. Where are you
gonna get your next heat of zoros?

1741
01:56:23.119 --> 01:56:25.880
I'm gonna get out of my other
thigh. It's gonna be so I gotta

1742
01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:28.119
signed you on my left eye.
I'm gonna get Zora on my right thigh,

1743
01:56:28.279 --> 01:56:30.239
and it's gonna be the nothing Happened
one piece. Okay, Yeah,

1744
01:56:30.279 --> 01:56:35.479
I was making sure. Are you
making sure what Antonio band like? What?

1745
01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:41.199
Or boots on my thigh? No? But yeah, I'm gonna get

1746
01:56:41.439 --> 01:56:46.159
it's uh was called it's a dope, It's a dope pictures or I'm gonna

1747
01:56:46.159 --> 01:56:50.079
get that done. I gotta save
some money for that though I was your

1748
01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:54.920
following country. I think four hundred
ninety five bucks for this one, so

1749
01:56:55.159 --> 01:56:58.880
it's gonna be the same amount.
Justin fan says. Number one position,

1750
01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:01.399
A need Kickerumber two position, you
need kicker. Number three position, you

1751
01:57:01.479 --> 01:57:04.760
need kicker. Where's kicker? Ranking
your guys? Position? I need five?

1752
01:57:06.319 --> 01:57:10.399
Same for you four. It can't
be that high and not even gonna

1753
01:57:10.479 --> 01:57:14.319
use it. Yeah, yeah,
it's not. I'm fairly confident because I

1754
01:57:14.319 --> 01:57:15.680
remember I was on the br stream
and I kept like, because the people

1755
01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:17.920
in the chat were in the same
ship, not have any numbers in front

1756
01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:20.960
of me? Why sh didn't have
those numbers? Bro? That's that production

1757
01:57:21.079 --> 01:57:24.279
was dope as fuck by the way
whenever you like you didn't have anything,

1758
01:57:24.319 --> 01:57:26.359
if you start talking about it,
they would just like pop it up on

1759
01:57:26.399 --> 01:57:29.199
the screen at the stats or whatever. But anyway, so I was like,

1760
01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:31.560
I want to hear some shit about
Dan campbec you pull up Michael Badgy's

1761
01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:35.319
like kicking percentage from like forty yards
plus that pulled up like seventy seven percent.

1762
01:57:36.279 --> 01:57:39.319
All right, Well he just didn't
want to use it. Yeah,

1763
01:57:40.279 --> 01:57:43.319
is what it is. Man.
It's fair. But that'll do it for

1764
01:57:43.479 --> 01:57:45.920
us today. Appreciate you off t
happening to the Wilbard heavyweights. Make sure

1765
01:57:45.920 --> 01:57:51.920
you guys smash the like button for
me, four kg pork for Lloyd,

1766
01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:56.239
cushion berry for me, Spencer Eggs. We are the Wolbard evyweight. So

1767
01:57:56.279 --> 01:58:05.520
we catch you guys tomorrow. Smash
the like button. Peace. Eight

