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You're listening to the Downbeat on ninety
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Yeah, we're almost forty percent through
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Is that bo over there? That's
bo I saw in the hallway and goes

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in the midd He said something like
I'm gonna make it to the weekend,

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and then he caught himself. He's
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like Jo got it. He's cool. He's kind of like the Charles Bakowski

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of classic rock. You know.
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dude, you look like JENASKI legend. Yeah, he's old dude speaking

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oh legends. Nine am this morning. Just two hours from now, we

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have snl alum Chris catan At joining
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on a telephone. I think he's
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right. He's a part of our
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part of our nine to ten interviews
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have a guy from Next Level Chef
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Backdoor teen Mom. Yeah, and
I'm not kidding fair At Abraham. That's

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amazing is calling in Thursday morning at
nine ten am to talk about a serious

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issue I might need to do,
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do? I don't. I don't
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mom. Huh. And I'm a
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seen is it Porno's? But how
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She was on YouTube YouTube? Who
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who is fair Ah Abraham? Yeah? But she was on a MTV show

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teen sixteen and pregnant What's spun off
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have pack dorteen Mom Farah Abraham on
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that will provide all the research.
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that? Yeah you do? Yeah, I do, I do? Right,

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will look, Kevio's got to watch
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that was made what nineteen ninety five? They do a film review and read

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it on the radio, Eddy Evans
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Yeah, all right, take your
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it's a busy weeks. We'll see
what happens yet. So that's nine

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o'clock Away Chriskatan joining us at nine
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have the Mavericks head coach Jason Kidd
joining us at n and I'm interested how

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that's gonna go. I mean,
they avoided disaster last night. Yes,

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no, I know, I just
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trust me, the fact that we're
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this. But I don't want to
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a couple of fastballs, and I
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I mean, because his own players
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effing time out right, But then
it leads to a far larger issue and

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a relatively uncomfortable thing to do.
But we're journalists. At eight o'clock,

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I got a little piece of Tim
Hardaway junior audio to hear from after the

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game. It's short, but him
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like glad you have that. Yeah, it was, it was in it.

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You can read into it a little
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a wild one last night, and
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the discussion, we were all thinking
it, like are they responding to this

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guy anymore? And they come out, they had a good talk at halftime.

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It seems like it came out and
played one of their best quarters of

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the year. Yeah, do they
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to twelve in the third quarter?
That zone, that lockdown zone defense.

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So I saw Kid in the post
game. I watched the whole podium and

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they asked him, you know,
what's the key to the defense? Basically

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just said of energy and effort,
and then in the next sentence he kind

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of I don't know if this makes
news, but he kind of basically said,

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they have to care. Yeah,
they like they have to care,

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like implying I'm trying. I'm trying
to get them to care. And if

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they care, they can play good
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the offense is gonna be there and
they're gonna come storming back. From

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down seventeen or whatever they were and
beat mediocre teams, which maybe they are

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I don't know, because if you
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you are a mediocre team. But
also gives me like hope that maybe they

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can crank it up to the ceiling
come playoff times and play hard, hard

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defense and then who knows who they
can beat. But to hear him say

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that, it was kind of weird. The phrase that the media was going

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to take last night from all that
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I think he SAIDs like in the
post game he said, I guess you

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know if I need to, you
know, be almost like playing defense with

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them, is basically what he was
saying. Well, they said, because

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you were very animated on the sidelines, like you were jumping around with the

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defense. And then he kind of
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can't go out there on the court, you know, because he kind of

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was always like one word away from
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out there. Yeah, he literally
said once, you know, and he

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may be having saying they may be
having a problem with someone or multiple people

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not doing their job defensively. I
mean we're talking about this that Christian would

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just ruined their defense last year by
not knowing how to play smart team defense

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and hitting your rotations and all that
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a supposed to be a good defender. But when you say that in post,

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doesn't that mean is that not peeling
the curtain a little bit into there?

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They don't listen to me. You
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when you game plan for another team, you go into that game with a

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certain amount of expectation. And I
saw a Maverick team that was continually bewildered

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and flustered with Orlando's unprecedented ability to
just drain three after three after three,

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And I saw one time where what's
the guy's name of Wagner? Wagner sunk

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another three and Luca kind of looked
at him and looked around, like,

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are you freaking kidding me? This
guy is made a They made another one

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and took the ball out of bounds
and kind of slapped the ball and threw

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it in, like what do we
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a lot of that first half was
born out of just frustration because the expectation

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that they had of what Orlando was
capable of was much different than you know,

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well, I think you're right,
and Orlando is the worst three worst

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team in the NBA and they know
that going into the game. So that's

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why they're not you know, maybe
they're being a little soft on their perimeter

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defense and then when these guys are
just draining the other I mean, that's

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got to be incredibly frustrating to them. And then they've got to alter that

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and be like, Okay, I
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well, it wasn't surprised by it, but man, that you do,

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you do have to overcome that and
kind of plan for the worst case scenario.

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In the back of your mind.
It's like, well, if this

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does, if they do have all
of these guys career from beyond the arc

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tonight, well we've got to make
adjustments and not get in our heads and

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frustrated that well that they're not doing
it the way they're supposed to. What

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is this? What what are we
supposed to do? Now? You sack

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up and guard them. They give
up started in their kids, not wrong

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first quarter, and it's an understandable
give up to an extent for me and

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Also, I hate criticizing this guy, but when Orlando went on their first

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run, I mean it was kind
of back and forth in the Orlando won

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their first roam and made it like
seventeen to seven. Well, in that

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time that it went from like seven
to seven to seventeen to seven was about

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the time when Luca didn't get a
foul call, was on the ground picking

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himself up, and then he did
not stop talking to the ref for the

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next two minutes, and before you
know it, it's seventeen to seven,

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and it's like he got out of
the game. Last Friday, absolutely did,

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but that's not gonna change. I've
accepted it's not. And last Friday,

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we you know, after what happened
against Phoenix and him drawing with a

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fan and ultimately getting the fan tossed
over just what was apparently some pretty innocuous

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U taunting or jeering or whatever,
We're pretty critical. But dude, I

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saw him drive the lane last night
at one point, and just on lane

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penetration he ended up having to dish
the ball out. He was triple teamed

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a lot last night. He was
getting molested going toward the basket and had

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to kick it out to the wing
u uh to the side and and dude,

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it's like you could have called seven
fouls just on his dribble penetration and

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he's just not getting those calls.
He's taking so much contact. I don't

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know what I like, I don't
know what I would do rest the pastor

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ever plays. I'm not gonna call
it holding on. I'm not losing it.

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But that's why they need Kyrie because
then he's not driving to the whole

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every single possession. He's not being
relied on to do everything. You know,

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it would have made huge news if, like when they were down huge

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someone yelled something with Luca and he
got all the seats for soldiers kicked out.

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Get him out of here, all
of them, so that we're more

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math stuff. At a marching,
Kyrie is awesome. March out the tunnel,

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Kyrie is great because he's like walking
in. He was just like dapping

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all the soldiers like, I mean, that's a small gesture. But you

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know, Kyrie's not playing right now. Man. I do kind of hate

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that he the Yankees hat, and
I know that's his bit. It was

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like a New Jersey Yankees hat,
but hey, man, weird World series

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champions. You know, let's get
that ranger hat on, dude. But

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that's that's to me, Like,
And that's another thing. I hope Jason

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Kidd went and chewed ass at halftime, but I don't know what happened.

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They react if they if he does. Can he even chew ass? I

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think he used to. That's how
it is, and he got it used

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to And he got fired at all
those jobs because he wasn't relating to the

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team very well, right, was
it that the narrative? But he was

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too much of a hard ass.
And then when he went and was the

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assistant with Lebron, he realized how
to calm down. And now it's like

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it feels like too calm. But
I've never seen like especially the player like

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Tim Mardoay Junior. No offense to
Tim. Tim was great last night too,

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but no offense to him. Not
a list basketball player going to All

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Star games, yelling calling effing time
out when he got trapped. Yeah,

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and we'll play that audio for you
to eight and you kind of carry on

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this discussion. Plus I was kind
of a part of the in game activities

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last night, guys, and I
got thrown for a couple of audibles,

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and my night kind of changed based
on that. I want. I can't

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wait to hear your behind the scenes. Yeah, oh man, up close

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and personal with the Dallas Mavericks,
last night journey with Kevin Turner. Do

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you want just the football stuff real
quick? I guess is good or not?

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Well, we'll see only do good
football stuff. I don't know.

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That's the usual crap football with the
good football. Well, I mean the

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Cowboys are not in the super Bowl, so that's not good. I can't

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start with a good thing for you. There's already big articles out about because

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there's two jobs left. It's the
Washington Commanders and the Seattle Seahawks. There's

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already big articles out which team will
build Belichick join in twenty twenty five,

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and almost everyone thinks the Cowboys are
your contender. Ash wonder if you're Mike

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McCarthy, what are you thinking?
Are you Like? You're probably just running

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it back and thinking I'll go for
a super Bowl. But there's got to

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be a part of you that's like
telling the wife, like, hey,

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we need to be looking at you
know, maybe buy some property down here

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that you can rent out if you
like your time here, or there's no

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guarantee that even if he takes this
team to a Super Bowl victory next year

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or this year, maybe it would
be next year that his job would be

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secure, because it's not unprecedented that
Jerry will part ways with a coach after

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winning two Super Bowls in a row. It has happened. Yeah, Weirdly,

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the Giants are another team too.
Everyone thinks that he would love to

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go to the Giants, bill which
there would be your division. It would

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be that you have Kellen Moore as
your offensive coordinator for the Eagles. Washington's

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about to get the hottest play caller
in sports, even despite the handoff the

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other day and Ben Johnson. Everyone
thinks Washington's about to get them. Put

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out your Super Bowl odds for next
year. Would you put a little money

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on this? Dallas Cowboys odds?
What do you think they are? Blank

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to one? I know what they
are, you know it, Danny,

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thirty five to one? About half
that? Seventeen eighteen to one, even

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the Miami Dolphins. You want to
name the teams that you think are have

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better I was to win next year
Super Bowl than the Dallas Cowboys. How

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many are there? Eight? Okay? San Francisco yes, Kansas City.

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Kansas City is the favorite to win
next year's Super Bowl. San Francisco is

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the second favorite. I'm gonna go
with Miami. Miami's tied with the Dolphins

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eighteen to one. With Cowboys,
yeah, Cowboys, yes, and the

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Eagles actually eighteen to one as well. Okay, Kevin, he's probably looking

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at I've seen No, I'm not
looking at it right now, but I

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have the one that presented this.
The Ravens. Yep, Ravens are fourth,

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twelve to one. I guess you
got to go to Detroit seven to

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one. Man, they're the third
favorite to win next year Super Bowl,

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the Detroit Lions with jaredy Golf.
Okay, okay, I mean it is

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essentially the teams that went further.
Yeah, yeah, as you called green

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Bay green Bay sixteen to one.
They have them better than the Cowboys.

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That's kind of one of the surprises
on the come up though. And there's

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one sort of forgotten team that was
good last few years and didn't really do

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it this year. I know you
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Carolina Panthers. So put a couple
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the playoffs because the football is weird. So the Super Bowl is going to

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be broadcasted by Tony Romo and Jim
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a lot of heat a little bit
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this is gonna be a big story
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if he wants to, basically has
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if he wants it, like he's
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kicks in. It sounds like when
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this big interview and or there's a
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it was kind of interesting. They
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they're talking about how good Greg Olsen
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that was interesting. Early in the
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the San Francisco defense. He's like, everyone knows San Francisco's got a great

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defense, but they can be run
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are great, but they don't face
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when he said that, the Lions
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just you know, it's that timing. Yeah, and this is what Tony

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benefited on in his first two years. And I guess still like a color

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guy, that's kind of like patting
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make a call like that and then
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definitely adds to your resume. So
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he was talking about the idea of
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if Brady wants it, they're gonna
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Brady. But I say, man, I kind of admire Greg Olsen's attitude

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because it would be easy to be
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a great job. They're gonna do
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move on, I go somewhere else. And he's basically just like I'm gonna

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fight for this, and he's talking
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be a tough decision and I'm gonna
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think he's gonna he's held back by
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kind of went, you know what, that's pretty cool, And I think

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I like him a little more than
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a little hard on it. Not
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Uh. It's hard to take the
guy serious when he well was when he

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did the big rap in college,
right, Yeah, And you can't let

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that stay with the guy forever.
So he signed a five year deal with

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Fox. It's worth ten million annually. When he's calling games on the number

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one team. On the number two
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Wow, seven million dollar pay cut. Yeah, that's depending on what

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team you're on when you got little
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bucks. If Tom Brady says yes
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or both of them I guess are
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that would suck if you had it, like in your work contract that if

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you got demoted to a different day
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salary. That would suck. The
common thing about Tom Brady that people keep

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talking about is they don't think Brady
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they think Brady wants to go own
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We know that he's had dalliances with
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was something that was on Brady's mind
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I'll do three years broadcasting because I
can, they're like doing to Olsen's

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options. He could say, you
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but you gotta pay me more,
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I mean that would be a good
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was to go away. But also, look at all these other guys who

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were going to retire eventually. Do
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is going to be doing TV if
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Yeah, but doing TV is different
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yeah, butting your head up against
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has an opt out clause that allows
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network in the event he has bumped
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would require an opening somewhere else.
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I have to he's good, you
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KK and Third Leg Greg is they're
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they go in, they do their
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exactly and look we early on when
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Cowboy games this year. I believe, you know, early on the first

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couple, I could find audio from
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But man, through the end of
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that warrants drawing comedic attention to whereas
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fun, but a lot of it
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guess, I mean, is that
the kind of is that what you want?

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Or do you want somebody that's kind
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very reliable and workman like you want
Buck Aikman. You want just entertaining but

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not you know, distracting. I
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the two I don't think Romo's distracting. There's no like comedic entertainment provided other

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than laughing at it's unintentional that you're
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there's there's something about those two.
They have that Pat Madden Pat Summer al

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Madden chemistry. They have that connectivity
thing that's just you can't put a metric

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on it. I don't think Greg
Olsen and and Burkhardt have that. I

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don't think they have that that unique
spark chemistry. And maybe maybe there's there's

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good, but they're kind of milk
toast. I mean, they could catch

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Herbie and send Olsen off to Thursday
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could be something they could do,
and you're right about like like one of

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the Kelsey brothers, Like I could
see Jason not doing play by play,

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but he could be the new Goose
or Booger. Yeah you know, yeah,

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I bet he'd be better than Drivis
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But whatever. Like the point is
like the there's one thing that I

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hear when these conversations happen for people, and it's like why I just watch

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football. I don't care about the
announcers, and that's fine. A lot

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of people you care about the news, they don't care about who's delivering it

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to you. I'm the opposite.
I do care. I do want to

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like, I do think there's a
noticeable difference when you're getting a game done

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with you know, Jonathan Vilma and
Joe Davis or someone else, Like I

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do think when you get a game
with bad announcers, you're going, wow's

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rough, look barbar will kill you. I look them up every week.

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I want to know who's announcing the
game. We're spoiled here because we only

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have to deal with that CD E
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Yeah. Boys, Once you start
getting that quite a bit, you

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start to realize, you know what, I kind of miss those guys at

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the top who are doing it.
And I also, like, I do

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care who's delivering my news. Like
it's not like it's not like AI like

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I'm not just there for the game, like I do think it's a part

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of I think it's it's our job
too, because you're listening for stuff to

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play. I generitely don't care who
the announcers are, and they have to

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go out of their way for me
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of the job, but I don't. I think they all do a fine

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job, but I think Romo does
things that are insane. He doesn't know

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how to finish sentences, and he
gets himself twisted at the knots and doesn't

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know where he's headed. Didn't you
see where you say? Go ahead?

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It was funny one day Danny was
yelling about Romo not knowing how to finish

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sentences, and he just petered out
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It was just a perfect just stop
talking. Yeah, you pulled a Romo

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mid Romo. I think I called
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But no matter what, Greg Olsen
fine good. Maybe potential to be great

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is not Tom Brady. Now.
I don't know if Tom Brady's gonna be

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great at this job, but at
least for the first year plus, just

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to see Tom Brady, that's that's
that's a note. I will be excited

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the first game tom Brady calls.
I will be like locked in because sure

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tom Brady's calling it. I know
we're running a little behind, but I

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want to say this about the announcers. I do put I do attach a

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little bit of importance to who's doing
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of the announcers as kind of like
how music can affect a scene in a

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film. You know, when you
have those voices that just work well together,

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they add to the ambiance of the
total game watching experience. And if

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there are people that you can just
tell a game is different when you get

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the bc D team calling a Cowboys
game, because the vibe of it just

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feels I don't know, it's it's
not familiar, it's not comfortable, it

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doesn't feel like you're you know,
it's it's like, Okay, so you're

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driving and there's the scenery is beautiful, and if you're listening to you Know,

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Everything in Its right place by Radiohead, that adds to the experience.

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But if you've got Walking on the
Sun by smash Mouth, it might be

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a different experience. I all I'm
saying is I think they have they matter

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more without you really realizing how much
they matter, And you don't realize how

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much they matter until they're not doing
your game. Will announce He's Dinger's morning

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news. Dude, did you hear
about the big chicken ranch that blew up

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in Brian, Texas? Wings for
everyone next,