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it's a busy weeks. We'll see what happens yet. So that's nine
o'clock Away Chriskatan joining us at nine thirty five, give her take. We
have the Mavericks head coach Jason Kidd joining us at n and I'm interested how
that's gonna go. I mean, they avoided disaster last night. Yes,
no, I know, I just it's his first time with us. And
trust me, the fact that we're the home of the MAVs doesn't really impact
this. But I don't want to run them off. But I do have
a couple of fastballs, and I don't we do have to ask the question.
I mean, because his own players were yelling at him to call an
effing time out right, But then it leads to a far larger issue and
a relatively uncomfortable thing to do. But we're journalists. At eight o'clock,
I got a little piece of Tim Hardaway junior audio to hear from after the
game. It's short, but him kind of laughing at the media and almost
like glad you have that. Yeah, it was, it was in it.
You can read into it a little bit if you want. It was
a wild one last night, and that first half was I mean, I
the discussion, we were all thinking it, like are they responding to this
guy anymore? And they come out, they had a good talk at halftime.
It seems like it came out and played one of their best quarters of
the year. Yeah, do they really hold him to twelve and thirty five
to twelve in the third quarter? That zone, that lockdown zone defense.
So I saw Kid in the post game. I watched the whole podium and
they asked him, you know, what's the key to the defense? Basically
just said of energy and effort, and then in the next sentence he kind
of I don't know if this makes news, but he kind of basically said,
they have to care. Yeah, they like they have to care,
like implying I'm trying. I'm trying to get them to care. And if
they care, they can play good defense. And if they play good defense,
the offense is gonna be there and they're gonna come storming back. From
down seventeen or whatever they were and beat mediocre teams, which maybe they are
I don't know, because if you don't play defense on half the nights,
you are a mediocre team. But also gives me like hope that maybe they
can crank it up to the ceiling come playoff times and play hard, hard
defense and then who knows who they can beat. But to hear him say
that, it was kind of weird. The phrase that the media was going
to take last night from all that was him saying, I guess well,
I think he SAIDs like in the post game he said, I guess you
know if I need to, you know, be almost like playing defense with
them, is basically what he was saying. Well, they said, because
you were very animated on the sidelines, like you were jumping around with the
defense. And then he kind of did go back to the well, I
can't go out there on the court, you know, because he kind of
was always like one word away from doing the whole well, I'm not all
out there. Yeah, he literally said once, you know, and he
may be having saying they may be having a problem with someone or multiple people
not doing their job defensively. I mean we're talking about this that Christian would
just ruined their defense last year by not knowing how to play smart team defense
and hitting your rotations and all that stuff. Now you added Grant Williams as
a supposed to be a good defender. But when you say that in post,
doesn't that mean is that not peeling the curtain a little bit into there?
They don't listen to me. You know what I saw last I think
when you game plan for another team, you go into that game with a
certain amount of expectation. And I saw a Maverick team that was continually bewildered
and flustered with Orlando's unprecedented ability to just drain three after three after three,
And I saw one time where what's the guy's name of Wagner? Wagner sunk
another three and Luca kind of looked at him and looked around, like,
are you freaking kidding me? This guy is made a They made another one
and took the ball out of bounds and kind of slapped the ball and threw
it in, like what do we have to do? So it seemed like
a lot of that first half was born out of just frustration because the expectation
that they had of what Orlando was capable of was much different than you know,
well, I think you're right, and Orlando is the worst three worst
team in the NBA and they know that going into the game. So that's
why they're not you know, maybe they're being a little soft on their perimeter
defense and then when these guys are just draining the other I mean, that's
got to be incredibly frustrating to them. And then they've got to alter that
and be like, Okay, I guess we got to cover these guys so
well, it wasn't surprised by it, but man, that you do,
you do have to overcome that and kind of plan for the worst case scenario.
In the back of your mind. It's like, well, if this
does, if they do have all of these guys career from beyond the arc
tonight, well we've got to make adjustments and not get in our heads and
frustrated that well that they're not doing it the way they're supposed to. What
is this? What what are we supposed to do? Now? You sack
up and guard them. They give up started in their kids, not wrong
first quarter, and it's an understandable give up to an extent for me and
Also, I hate criticizing this guy, but when Orlando went on their first
run, I mean it was kind of back and forth in the Orlando won
their first roam and made it like seventeen to seven. Well, in that
time that it went from like seven to seven to seventeen to seven was about
the time when Luca didn't get a foul call, was on the ground picking
himself up, and then he did not stop talking to the ref for the
next two minutes, and before you know it, it's seventeen to seven,
and it's like he got out of the game. Last Friday, absolutely did,
but that's not gonna change. I've accepted it's not. And last Friday,
we you know, after what happened against Phoenix and him drawing with a
fan and ultimately getting the fan tossed over just what was apparently some pretty innocuous
U taunting or jeering or whatever, We're pretty critical. But dude, I
saw him drive the lane last night at one point, and just on lane
penetration he ended up having to dish the ball out. He was triple teamed
a lot last night. He was getting molested going toward the basket and had
to kick it out to the wing u uh to the side and and dude,
it's like you could have called seven fouls just on his dribble penetration and
he's just not getting those calls. He's taking so much contact. I don't
know what I like, I don't know what I would do rest the pastor
ever plays. I'm not gonna call it holding on. I'm not losing it.
But that's why they need Kyrie because then he's not driving to the whole
every single possession. He's not being relied on to do everything. You know,
it would have made huge news if, like when they were down huge
someone yelled something with Luca and he got all the seats for soldiers kicked out.
Get him out of here, all of them, so that we're more
math stuff. At a marching, Kyrie is awesome. March out the tunnel,
Kyrie is great because he's like walking in. He was just like dapping
all the soldiers like, I mean, that's a small gesture. But you
know, Kyrie's not playing right now. Man. I do kind of hate
that he the Yankees hat, and I know that's his bit. It was
like a New Jersey Yankees hat, but hey, man, weird World series
champions. You know, let's get that ranger hat on, dude. But
that's that's to me, Like, And that's another thing. I hope Jason
Kidd went and chewed ass at halftime, but I don't know what happened.
They react if they if he does. Can he even chew ass? I
think he used to. That's how it is, and he got it used
to And he got fired at all those jobs because he wasn't relating to the
team very well, right, was it that the narrative? But he was
too much of a hard ass. And then when he went and was the
assistant with Lebron, he realized how to calm down. And now it's like
it feels like too calm. But I've never seen like especially the player like
Tim Mardoay Junior. No offense to Tim. Tim was great last night too,
but no offense to him. Not a list basketball player going to All
Star games, yelling calling effing time out when he got trapped. Yeah,
and we'll play that audio for you to eight and you kind of carry on
this discussion. Plus I was kind of a part of the in game activities
last night, guys, and I got thrown for a couple of audibles,
and my night kind of changed based on that. I want. I can't
wait to hear your behind the scenes. Yeah, oh man, up close
and personal with the Dallas Mavericks, last night journey with Kevin Turner. Do
you want just the football stuff real quick? I guess is good or not?
Well, we'll see only do good football stuff. I don't know.
That's the usual crap football with the good football. Well, I mean the
Cowboys are not in the super Bowl, so that's not good. I can't
start with a good thing for you. There's already big articles out about because
there's two jobs left. It's the Washington Commanders and the Seattle Seahawks. There's
already big articles out which team will build Belichick join in twenty twenty five,
and almost everyone thinks the Cowboys are your contender. Ash wonder if you're Mike
McCarthy, what are you thinking? Are you Like? You're probably just running
it back and thinking I'll go for a super Bowl. But there's got to
be a part of you that's like telling the wife, like, hey,
we need to be looking at you know, maybe buy some property down here
that you can rent out if you like your time here, or there's no
guarantee that even if he takes this team to a Super Bowl victory next year
or this year, maybe it would be next year that his job would be
secure, because it's not unprecedented that Jerry will part ways with a coach after
winning two Super Bowls in a row. It has happened. Yeah, Weirdly,
the Giants are another team too. Everyone thinks that he would love to
go to the Giants, bill which there would be your division. It would
be that you have Kellen Moore as your offensive coordinator for the Eagles. Washington's
about to get the hottest play caller in sports, even despite the handoff the
other day and Ben Johnson. Everyone thinks Washington's about to get them. Put
out your Super Bowl odds for next year. Would you put a little money
on this? Dallas Cowboys odds? What do you think they are? Blank
to one? I know what they are, you know it, Danny,
thirty five to one? About half that? Seventeen eighteen to one, even
the Miami Dolphins. You want to name the teams that you think are have
better I was to win next year Super Bowl than the Dallas Cowboys. How
many are there? Eight? Okay? San Francisco yes, Kansas City.
Kansas City is the favorite to win next year's Super Bowl. San Francisco is
the second favorite. I'm gonna go with Miami. Miami's tied with the Dolphins
eighteen to one. With Cowboys, yeah, Cowboys, yes, and the
Eagles actually eighteen to one as well. Okay, Kevin, he's probably looking
at I've seen No, I'm not looking at it right now, but I
have the one that presented this. The Ravens. Yep, Ravens are fourth,
twelve to one. I guess you got to go to Detroit seven to
one. Man, they're the third favorite to win next year Super Bowl,
the Detroit Lions with jaredy Golf. Okay, okay, I mean it is
essentially the teams that went further. Yeah, yeah, as you called green
Bay green Bay sixteen to one. They have them better than the Cowboys.
That's kind of one of the surprises on the come up though. And there's
one sort of forgotten team that was good last few years and didn't really do
it this year. I know you got it, the the Bengals. Bengals
Joel Barrow sixteen and bar sixteen to one as well. And then the Bills
are twelve to one, we're the Saints. Let's check for the Saints.
Keep scrolling one hundred to one. They're down there with the Broncos, Pats,
Giants, Titans, Commanders, and in dead last one you have the
Carolina Panthers. So put a couple of bucks on them because they'll probably make
the playoffs because the football is weird. So the Super Bowl is going to
be broadcasted by Tony Romo and Jim Nance, and you know they've they'ved taken
a lot of heat a little bit lately. But the other thing I think
this is gonna be a big story in sports business is that Tom Brady,
if he wants to, basically has been given the a team job with Fox
if he wants it, like he's agreed to a deal, and then it
kicks in. It sounds like when Tom wants to. So Greg Olsen's doing
this big interview and or there's a big article about him and the athletic and
it was kind of interesting. They played out one thing that you know,
they're talking about how good Greg Olsen is, and they played out one thing
that was interesting. Early in the game of the day, Olson's talking about
the San Francisco defense. He's like, everyone knows San Francisco's got a great
defense, but they can be run on. They're stopping the run. Numbers
are great, but they don't face a lot of runs because they're always ahead.
Just like a little thing that you kind of think about. And right
when he said that, the Lions had a fifteen yard run, so it
just you know, it's that timing. Yeah, and this is what Tony
benefited on in his first two years. And I guess still like a color
guy, that's kind of like patting your stats. You know, when you
make a call like that and then something works out in your favor, it
definitely adds to your resume. So he's been doing I Seed an interview and
he was talking about the idea of Brady and he's basically known, Yeah,
if Brady wants it, they're gonna give it to Tom Brady because he's Tom
Brady. But I say, man, I kind of admire Greg Olsen's attitude
because it would be easy to be like, hey, man, I've done
a great job. They're gonna do whatever they want with me. I can
move on, I go somewhere else. And he's basically just like I'm gonna
fight for this, and he's talking about his ereas like I'm gonna make it
be a tough decision and I'm gonna trye do a good job. Now I
think he's gonna he's held back by a little baby KK. That's just me,
But I don't know. I just there's something about that that I just
kind of went, you know what, that's pretty cool, And I think
I like him a little more than maybe I did. So I've always been
a little hard on it. Not hard on him, but a little.
Uh. It's hard to take the guy serious when he well was when he
did the big rap in college, right, Yeah, And you can't let
that stay with the guy forever. So he signed a five year deal with
Fox. It's worth ten million annually. When he's calling games on the number
one team. On the number two team, he gets three million per year.
Wow, seven million dollar pay cut. Yeah, that's depending on what
team you're on when you got little baby K on your shoulder, ten million
bucks. If Tom Brady says yes and he has under contract, is Olsen
or both of them I guess are facing contract In the case, well,
that would suck if you had it, like in your work contract that if
you got demoted to a different day part that you lost seventy percent of your
salary. That would suck. The common thing about Tom Brady that people keep
talking about is they don't think Brady will do it for a long time because
they think Brady wants to go own a team like we've heard of the Raiders.
We know that he's had dalliances with Mikey's Miami Dolphins. So if that
was something that was on Brady's mind and he just goes, you know what,
I'll do three years broadcasting because I can, they're like doing to Olsen's
options. He could say, you know what, I'll be the number two,
but you gotta pay me more, and Fox might be like, yeah,
I mean that would be a good insurance play for Fox in case Brady
was to go away. But also, look at all these other guys who
were going to retire eventually. Do you tell me one of the Kelsey brothers
is going to be doing TV if they want to in whatever form they want.
Yeah, but doing TV is different than being the color man, and
yeah, butting your head up against being on the number one team. Olsen
has an opt out clause that allows him to look for another role with another
network in the event he has bumped from the number one team, so that
would require an opening somewhere else. But that's that's interesting because he's really good.
I have to he's good, you Okay. The thing about Little Baby
KK and Third Leg Greg is they're just they're kind of just workmen. Like
they go in, they do their job. You don't really like what we
exactly and look we early on when they were doing they did over half the
Cowboy games this year. I believe, you know, early on the first
couple, I could find audio from them and bring it in here and play.
But man, through the end of the season, they're not doing anything
that warrants drawing comedic attention to whereas Romo and Nance is just a fountain of
fun, but a lot of it comes with negative criticism because of Tony I
guess, I mean, is that the kind of is that what you want?
Or do you want somebody that's kind of like right down the middle and
very reliable and workman like you want Buck Aikman. You want just entertaining but
not you know, distracting. I want insightful, but with good chemistry between
the two I don't think Romo's distracting. There's no like comedic entertainment provided other
than laughing at it's unintentional that you're right like Buck and Aikman. They but
there's there's something about those two. They have that Pat Madden Pat Summer al
Madden chemistry. They have that connectivity thing that's just you can't put a metric
on it. I don't think Greg Olsen and and Burkhardt have that. I
don't think they have that that unique spark chemistry. And maybe maybe there's there's
good, but they're kind of milk toast. I mean, they could catch
Herbie and send Olsen off to Thursday nights, you know, or something that
could be something they could do, and you're right about like like one of
the Kelsey brothers, Like I could see Jason not doing play by play,
but he could be the new Goose or Booger. Yeah you know, yeah,
I bet he'd be better than Drivis and wacky stuff at Color I think.
But whatever. Like the point is like the there's one thing that I
hear when these conversations happen for people, and it's like why I just watch
football. I don't care about the announcers, and that's fine. A lot
of people you care about the news, they don't care about who's delivering it
to you. I'm the opposite. I do care. I do want to
like, I do think there's a noticeable difference when you're getting a game done
with you know, Jonathan Vilma and Joe Davis or someone else, Like I
do think when you get a game with bad announcers, you're going, wow's
rough, look barbar will kill you. I look them up every week.
I want to know who's announcing the game. We're spoiled here because we only
have to deal with that CD E F crew two or three times a year.
Yeah. Boys, Once you start getting that quite a bit, you
start to realize, you know what, I kind of miss those guys at
the top who are doing it. And I also, like, I do
care who's delivering my news. Like it's not like it's not like AI like
I'm not just there for the game, like I do think it's a part
of I think it's it's our job too, because you're listening for stuff to
play. I generitely don't care who the announcers are, and they have to
go out of their way for me to notice. I mean I notice because
of the job, but I don't. I think they all do a fine
job, but I think Romo does things that are insane. He doesn't know
how to finish sentences, and he gets himself twisted at the knots and doesn't
know where he's headed. Didn't you see where you say? Go ahead?
It was funny one day Danny was yelling about Romo not knowing how to finish
sentences, and he just petered out like while he was making the point.
It was just a perfect just stop talking. Yeah, you pulled a Romo
mid Romo. I think I called myself out on it too. Yeah.
But no matter what, Greg Olsen fine good. Maybe potential to be great
is not Tom Brady. Now. I don't know if Tom Brady's gonna be
great at this job, but at least for the first year plus, just
to see Tom Brady, that's that's that's a note. I will be excited
the first game tom Brady calls. I will be like locked in because sure
tom Brady's calling it. I know we're running a little behind, but I
want to say this about the announcers. I do put I do attach a
little bit of importance to who's doing the game, because I kind of think
of the announcers as kind of like how music can affect a scene in a
film. You know, when you have those voices that just work well together,
they add to the ambiance of the total game watching experience. And if
there are people that you can just tell a game is different when you get
the bc D team calling a Cowboys game, because the vibe of it just
feels I don't know, it's it's not familiar, it's not comfortable, it
doesn't feel like you're you know, it's it's like, Okay, so you're
driving and there's the scenery is beautiful, and if you're listening to you Know,
Everything in Its right place by Radiohead, that adds to the experience.
But if you've got Walking on the Sun by smash Mouth, it might be
a different experience. I all I'm saying is I think they have they matter
more without you really realizing how much they matter, And you don't realize how
much they matter until they're not doing your game. Will announce He's Dinger's morning
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