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Today, I want to tell you
about a journey that I've been on for

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most of my life. Ever since
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of bigfoot and wild men while spending
time with my friends and family. As

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I grew older and read more about
the paranormal, my interest in encryptids and

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other things strange only deepened. That's
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Now, what are your reporting?
I got a screen going on here.

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Something just kid with my dog,
something to kill your dog? My dog.

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We're flying through there over the tree. I don't know how it did

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it? Okay, damn, I'm
really confused. All I saw was my

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dog coming over the fence and name
was dead once you hit the grill.

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I didn't see any cars. All
I saw was my dog coming over the

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fence. Happen? What are you
reporting? We got some wonder or something

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crawling around out here? Did you
see what it was? It was enough

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here. Look, I'm new to
one doow now and I don't need anything.

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I don't want to go outside.
Hello, hit the buddy out here,

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quin on out there? It's thought
of a mention about text nine.

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I don't know. Easy announce there. Yeah, I'm welcome, right heady

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he then, thanks so much for
joining me for the show. I hope

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you're having an amazing Sunday. I
wanted to do something a little different this

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week. I actually took this episode. It is a recent episode that Wayne

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and I recorded of that Bigfoot podcast. And although that show has grown exponentially

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over the last few months. It's
clear that not all of you guys are

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listening to it. I know a
lot of people are just into the encounters,

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but we do really have a lot
of great conversations over there, and

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this was one of those conversations that
we got into for this past week's episode

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that I really wanted to share with
you guys because I think it's a very

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important topic. There was some bleed
over from some of the mailbag stuff and

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some of the emails that you guys
have sending in as well as the newsletter

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that I do. If you haven't
signed up for the Bigfoot weekly newsletter,

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you have to do is go to
Paranormal Worldproductions dot com. The link is

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right here in the show notes.
It takes you five seconds to put in

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your name and email address and hit
sign up, and then you get access

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to the archives of all the ones
that I've sent out previously, and I'm

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going to do those every single week
on Sunday. You don't get spammed to

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death. You just get the free
newsletter and people are really really enjoying it.

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I've actually missed a week and had
people reaching out to me saying,

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hey, where's the newsletter man?
You haven't put one out, so we'd

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love to have you be a part
of the conversation, and we'd certainly love

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to have you start listening to that
Bigfoot podcast. I'm definitely not gonna make

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it a habit of cross posting and
putting those episodes over here. So if

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you want to listen to the show, the link is right here in the

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show notes. You can get it
anywhere you're listening right now. Just type

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in that Bigfoot Podcast. You'll see
the cool logo pop up, and there's

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like fifty four episodes for you to
catch up on, so there's plenty of

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stuff over there. I think you'll
really enjoy the show. Just a little

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caveat here. We do use some
language in the show. I have taken

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it out for this episode, so
you'll hear a couple of things where there

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may have been an F bomb that's
not there now, So it might sound

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a little little glitchy in the episode
here and there, when Wayne and I

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get fired up about something, the
F bombs tend to fly. But I

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know a lot of kids to listen
to the show, so I took all

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of that out. So if you
hear that that's exactly what's going on.

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But enough of that. I know
you guys are ready to get into it.

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I am certainly ready for you to
hear this episode. So all it's

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left for you to do a sit
back, relax and enjoy the show.

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Wayne, what's going on? Mann? What's up? Buddy? How you

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doing today? I am tired already. I've been up working since seven o'clock

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this morning. I've got a huge
day ahead of me. This is the

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first of the many episodes that I'm
going to have to do with multiple podcasts

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today, guesting on other people shows, but it's part of the gig.

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Man. Nobody gets to rest on
Sunday. One year a podcast, there

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is no Sundays in podcasting. Every
day is a workday when you work for

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yourself. I used to hear people
say that, and I never understood it

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until now. But I'm definitely not
complaining. It is one of the best

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things about what I get to do
every day. I love getting behind the

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microphone and doing this show, in
particular with you. What's been going on

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with you? Man? Not a
whole lot as Lee get together. It

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is about ten thirty Sunday morning.
I set my alarm for nine o'clock this

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morning, and when I woke up, I had seen you posted something a

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couple hours ago on Facebook on what
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o'clock on a Sunday. You're right, man, there's really not any days

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off when you work for yourself because
you tend to put stuff off, or

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I do anyway, and it just
drags on. Man. But I do

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enjoy this time. This is my
favorite part of the week, getting together

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with you and talking Bigfoot. Oh, it makes me feel so special.

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Yes, it is one of my
favorite times. I do have to write

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a newsletter. I've got to put
a newsletter out today. I failed to

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do that last week. So all
you guys that are waiting on the newsletter,

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it will come to your email at
some point in time today during the

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multiple podcasts I have to record.
But I will get that out to you

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guys. I'm gonna do it on
a topic that I think is interesting.

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We're gonna talk a little bit about
it at the end here or towards the

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end of this I think we're gonna
get into it. That's going to springboard

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me into the newsletter because it's something
that I've been wanting to talk about and

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I think it's a valid question that
Russ brought up over in our Bigfoot Encounters

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and Field Research group on Facebook that
is incidentally at a little over six thousand

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people at this point, I think
it's like sixty three hundred people in that

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group. I've had that group going
since I started Sasquatch Odyssey. We made

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it to about three thousand members and
two and a half three years of me

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doing that show, that has literally
doubled in the last three to four months,

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so it is growing exponentially. If
you guys aren't a part of that

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on Facebook, we would love to
have you a part of the conversation.

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All you got to do is go
over to Facebook look for the group Bigfoot

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Encounters and Field Research, and you
will see the group by paring on more

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World productions there. We got a
lot of great people in there. There's

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a lot of activity going on.
That used to be one of the rubs

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for you and I was getting people
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problem with engagement over there now.
There's tons of people posting. Everybody's going

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back and forth. People are sharing
their experiences, their research. A lot

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of other people share their shows over
there. Obviously, we don't stop people

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from sharing their shows. We want
you guys to get as much content as

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possible. We hope that you're listening
to everything that we do, but other

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people are doing some great things as
well, so we don't mind you sharing

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that over there, as long as
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But we have a swollen mail bag
this morning. Fen it's woling. The

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mail bag is swollen, So I'm
going to dig around in here and get

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some of these emails out of the
way so we can unswell the mail bag

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because you guys have been firing these
emails off. I think you texted me

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a couple of days ago after the
show went out on Friday and asked,

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hey, we're getting any feedback,
And I woke up till twelve emails the

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first morning, and it's just grown
from there. So we're not going to

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get to all of these today,
but I'm going to do my very best

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to I take them in order as
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about today. So let's get right
into it, man, It says Brian.

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I was disgusted to read the Reddit
thing you posted by the idiot who

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was railing against you. Your podcast
has been a total breath of fresh air

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for me, even and consistent in
my sanity every week as I am a

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stay at home mom of three with
little support. I have a filled biology

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background in man, Listening to you
and Wayne all of your shows keeps me

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feeling connected to another part of myself. I do not at all relate to

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what that jerk was saying and the
level of effort it took him to post

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that. Oh my god, the
level of intense hatred. No, just

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no. Please know that you are
valued and appreciated by so many and this

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is extremely hurtful and being a human
being, you will take it in somewhat,

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but I hope you leave most of
it behind. It's just hate.

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I hate it here. You are
being busy and productive. You produced hundreds

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of podcasts with fresh content weekly.
This dude is just spouting off and will

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never be able to produce anything other
than divisive bullshit. Carry on as you

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are lol. My husband is from
England. I have a lot of those

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to keep it going. Thanks for
all you do and PS. Wayne's recent

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pot incorporating my suggested topic was so
special to me and my kiddos, and

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until I can send him a thanks, I hope you can pass it along

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to him. It made my day
as well as my kid's day. It

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was the one about the bears and
the kids and the missing four one one

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stuff. Your professionalism shines, and
your law enforcement training certainly gave you the

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mind for evaluating the Sasquatch stuff.
Keep squatching, my friend, and I

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appreciate you, Joe Lynn. Appreciate
that, Joe Lynn very much. Obviously,

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if you guys haven't seen it,
I posted it in the group,

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and I posted it on my Facebook, and I even think I posted it

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on the page. Some guy went
on this huge Reddit rant. He said

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it was a review of my show
Sasquatch Odyssey, but it just turned out

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to be a whole lot of personal
attacks. He was attacking my police service,

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even attacking the City of Atlanta Police
department. There was so much there.

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But I tell you, I posted
it on Facebook and social media because

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I tell you really got to me, dude, it behind the scenes.

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You've known me for years now and
see some of the crap that you and

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I both get. I have had
some haters along the way that have railed

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against me and my show from day
one, calling me a copycat because I

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did an encounter show and I stole
everything that Wes Germer had ever done.

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If you listen with intellectual honesty,
you see the differences in my show versus

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Wes's show. It's just that simple. The intro's different, my style of

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interviews different. But that was one
of the things that this guy went on

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his many rants about this was like
pages of stuff that he wrote, to

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the point where he was laying it
out in categories talking about me and the

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show. I didn't see any criticism
of the show. He didn't criticize anything

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about the production value or any of
those things. It was just a personal

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attack against me. It got to
me, dude, I'm a human being

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like it. Eventually, it just
wears on me enough. I try to

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let it be water off a ducks
back. I got tons of emails about

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that, and I appreciate the support, but it is tough because you put

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yourself out there. I try to
do the best show that I can.

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No matter what I'm doing, whether
it's this show, my show, Backwood

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Torror Stories, whether it's the True
Crime, whether I'm guessing on another podcast,

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it doesn't matter to me, I
try to do the best thing I

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can do for the people that want
to listen and entertain you, guys,

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the way you want to be entertained. When you have somebody personally attacking you

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like that, it really got to
me. So I posted it just to

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say look more, just to draw
attention to him. In particular, I've

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said it about read it before.
Readit is the bunghole of social media in

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my opinion, because here's the thing. I don't even go on Reddit.

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The only reason I knew that reddit
rant was out there is because this motherfucker

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did the Reddit rant, and then
he sent it to me in a message

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so that I would see it and
engage, which I did. I didn't

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engage the way I normally do.
I got a little pissed off in the

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beginning, but then I just started
messing with him. He was talking about

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me cruising ponstantly on and losing my
balls while I was on patrol at Posta

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Lyon, and I was just winking
at him and poking fun. And I

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said, dude, I really do
feel sorry for you, because at the

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end of the day, I think
he's probably off mentally and door he's just

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stalker ish dude. Like, I've
never been so obsessed with anybody in any

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media form whatsoever that I would sit
down and take the time out of my

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day that this guy did to a
formulate all those sentences and then to type

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them out. It was amazing to
me. I don't know what else to

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say. I didn't want to spend
a ton of time on it, but

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yeah, it kissed me off.
Dude. Let me jump in here real

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quick, Brian, All there is
to it is he thinks you're cute.

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He's the bully on the playground that
sees the little girl in the pigtails and

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don't know how to talk to her. He's trying to get your attention.

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And for y'all that can't see this, Brian just about spit out his or

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whatever he's drinking. But I think
that's the truth a couple of things.

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I'm not going to spend a whole
lot of time on it either, because

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this doesn't deserve it. Lord long
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enough time in law points man,
there's this prerequisite. You're not a real

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cop unless you do it for a
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number I don't know if that's an
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in a minute, Brian, I
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You didn't even give it twelve years, and that's what you got to

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do. The first thing I asked
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he read it. He sent it
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it. But my first question that
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enforcement? He said, sixteen years? Okay, dumbass, there's the first

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incorrect statement that you made. Another
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one. This more on made the
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enforcement professional like it's something to brag
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of, when it's not. It
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he was sitting at home, in
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whitey tidies, typing out his hate
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the other people that do what he
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he's doing this, is someone broke
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and pulled a gun on him.
What do you call? Oh? Nine

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one one would he have that same
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lives to come in there and face
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have that same opinion that dude,
you're a more on That's all there is

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to it. Most everything you said
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leave him alone, find somebody else. Oh yeah, that's a couple

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of other people said the same thing. Though he's clearly got something going for

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Brian or something like that. I
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after a couple of days of letting
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laugh about it. But when I
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man, it just amazes me that
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somebody that they've never met. I
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I did send him a message on
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face to face and have a conversation. And I really would. I would

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really like to have a conversation.
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about physical violence here, folks.
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guy a cup of coffee and just
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he'd say the same things to me
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keyboard, because I don't think he
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don't know. But he hasn't taken
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I put it out there. It's
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coffee. I'm not talking about beating
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okay. Next to email. Wow, that was so good. I

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listened to that song all the time. You really did it Justice. I'm

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going to see if I can find
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too, by the way, Cindy
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cover I did. I don't know
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were asking me about my music.
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and some other places, and we're
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made it. The outro of a
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are still finding the show and finding
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little taste here before we go any
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if you want to see that,
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can go find it on Sasquatch hot
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at some point in time. But
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ten years ago. I've sang in
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but I've left that behind for podcasting, so I only do that for fun

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now. But it is out there
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Yeah, Brian, real quick.
Before we move on to the next

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one, let me circle back to
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recognize Joe Lynn. She did send
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I was defending you, so I
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thank you joel Anne for the recommendation, and tell your lovely daughters that I

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say hello. That was my pleasure. Thank you, joe Linn. Next

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email says, hey, guys,
I am in the middle of listening to

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that Bigfoot podcast episode fifty four,
and I had to pause it and jump

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over to send this Ooh, this
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an owl in the Backwoods Horror Stories
podcast, if anything, find a way

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to turn the owl down a smidge
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It's not a big deal. And
maybe that guy's dog barked because it was

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actually a fan of the show,
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and touch some grass and bring his
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at the noises. Regardless, the
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it anyway. Keep up the good
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guys. Shows that comes from David. David is talking about the couple of

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emails and the voicemails we got last
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Horror Stories podcast. If you guys
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should be. What's wrong with you? You can find it on YouTube.

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You can find it right here where
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got to do is type in Backwoods
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there's plenty there for you guys to
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to change up the ambiance a little
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a little loud, so I'm gonna
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more of those in the next couple
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that out for you guys. I've
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just have not been able to record
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you soon enough. Next email.
Great discussion of this event. You really

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brought all the different scenarios together and
analyze them both entertaining and educational. Nicely

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done. Now, if you wanted
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the Philadelphia experiment with the US Navy
trying to cloak a destroyer. Total bunk,

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bullshit and fantasy. Yes, it's
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and radio personalities, so easy to
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it's something you guys would like to
talk about anyway, Keep on going.

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That comes from Big T. Big
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of Row A note that we put
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don't remember what it went out to
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It might have been last Wednesday,
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episode, it is where Wayne and
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called Disturbing History that never really got
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born, and I am glad that
happened. But I do enjoy the talking

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about history and talking about things like
the Lost Colony of Roanoke. That was

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the only episode that you and I
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I put it out there and we've
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to enjoy it. I know you
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stuff. So we may do some
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don't know. Yeah, yeah,
it was last Wednesday that came out,

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and I sent Brian a text message
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listened to it because it had been
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it, and I had forgotten a
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told him and said, man,
I forgot how fun that was. That

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was cool. I enjoyed doing that. Maybe there's more to come, guys.

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Yeah, maybe we just need to
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What we both need, like another
hole in our head. Is for either

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one of us to do another freaking
podcast next email. The canoe idea A

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little backstory on this idea. If
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was season three. They rigged up
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fleer cameras getting all angles, then
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they actually called an anomaly which looked
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triggered my idea with the canoe.
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it's not lost or caught on anything, but that person is just navigating the

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canoe and keeping their mouths shut.
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I'm listening to that Bigfoot podcast.
People need to stop whining about the bird

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noises. If that's the worst thing
in their lives, then they have it

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pretty good, so tell them to
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the comments about how people charge for
their services, who is he? I've

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never heard of him, and maybe
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Maybe he wants to be paid for
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Time to grow up, whoever you
are. Love the rants, guys,

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never drink the kool aid. Peace
out that comes from Mike w and stay

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tuned for more Sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after these messages.

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We appreciate that, Mike. I
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might have legs. Again, I
don't know. I think that's something that

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somebody out there needs to take up
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do it. I think if they
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road with fleer cameras and night vision
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that with a canoe. I don't
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with an old canoe that is just
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in years. Do this experiment and
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I really think it could lead to
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hopefully there's someone out there, and
if someone does do this, please let

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us know how it turns out.
Absolutely next email, short and sweet.

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Good morning, mister Brian. I'm
listening to the current episode of that Bigfoot

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podcast. I like the sound effects
and backwoods horror stories. Please don't take

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them out of the show. The
show is awesome, Grayson, are shape

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that? Grayson. I'm going to
play a quick voicemail here because we're talking

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about that. It is really simple
and to the point, and it goes

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along with Grayson's email. Keith the
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I hope y'all have a great day. There you go. It seems to

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be you nantomous that we need to
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I think we're definitely going to do
that. Next email, says dear

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Brian. I'm a longtime listener and
huge fan of all of your podcasts.

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I'm from Vancouver Island and have messaged
you before about stories from my grandparents.

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AnyWho, you are definitely in my
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your open mindedness towards all possibilities of
bigfoot. It's refreshing to hear such a

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balance and thoughtfulness approach to the subject. I especially enjoy your conversations you have

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with Wayne on that Bigfoot podcast.
I could be listening and think of something

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and not long after Wayne will say
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the bigfoot savant. People. I
have said it over and over and Carolyn

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has clearly proven my point. What
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for keeping the conversation going. Ps. I love the ambient music that comes

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from Carolyn Cee from Vancouver Island.
Again, Wayne, you clearly have it.

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Dude, you are the Bigfoot savant. She's thinking it, damn it,

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and you say it a few seconds
later. Wayne, how do you

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do it? Man? Why can't
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or something useful. I don't know, I have no idea. I like

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the little nickname or the little joke
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keep it up. There you have
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spoke. Leave the background noise.
Screw the two rejects. Jeff. That

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was very short and sweet, Jeff. We appreciate the email, my friend.

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Next email subject background sounds on Backwoods
horror stories. Each message Brian,

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we met last year at the Smoky
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met a lot of people. You
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the background campfire noise is fine.
Some people just want to complain about

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anything. If you feel like you
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them, then turn down the background
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carry on the good work. Oh
and hotty Toddy Bill w not sure

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what the haughty Toddy means. I
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an old Miss Rebels kind of thing. It could be a sports reference,

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God knows if it is. I
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why the Bigfoot Savant is here next
you. Well, dude, I listened

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to the latest episode of that Bigfoot
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a madman. Lol. When Wayne
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and shut the up. I literally
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forth a lot on Instagram, and
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you literally just made my day with
that. He doesn't get any better

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than that. Wayne says, go
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the up, and he's choking on
poor crimes. And that is as country

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as it gets, as far as
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that exact same message he did on
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bit on Messenger. He's a good
guy and he's invited me up to He

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doesn't whoam and invited me up to
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up there. Hopefully one day I'll
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that offer, because I would love
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on that side of the country.
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Hi, Brian and Wayne just listening
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out of the people complaining about the
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like we're sitting around a campfire.
That dude has pansy dogs, just like

406
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the noise. He obviously does not
take the dogs out after dark. Of

407
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all your shows, and really appreciate
all you do as well as Wayne and

408
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Tiffany doing their shows. Have a
great one and that comes from Brad.

409
00:26:07.799 --> 00:26:11.920
Yeah, it's clear that people enjoy
the ambient noise in the Backwards Horror story,

410
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so we may tweak it a little
bit. But I think the general

411
00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:21.039
consensus is I'm going to leave it
in there. The guy that sent the

412
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voicemail, I can't remember his name. I'm sorry I've slipped since then.

413
00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.319
He's catching some heat now. He
don't deserve it, that's his opinion.

414
00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:30.960
He don't like the birds, but
leave his dogs alone. They can't help

415
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:36.119
it. Okay. This message has
been approved by the SPCA of America.

416
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All Right, before we get into
this last subject that I want to talk

417
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about from Russ and his campfire chats
over in the Bigfoot Encounters and Field Research

418
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:45.880
Group on Facebook, I want to
play this. It's a couple of minutes

419
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here from Maryann. It's just something
that you and I talked about a couple

420
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of episodes ago, and I definitely
want to continue this conversation because I think

421
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it's an important one. But I
found this interesting because Mary Ann is doing

422
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the Ozark Bigfoot conference that you and
I are going to be doing out in

423
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Missouri, I guess in September.
But she's also a BFRO investigator and she

424
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leads expeditions for the BFRO, and
she heard us talking about protocol when it

425
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:15.240
comes to finding a body hitting one
with a car. Shooting one whatever with

426
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Bigfoot. So mary Anne took it
upon herself to reach out to Map Moneymaker

427
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and talk about the BFRO a little
bit and see what their protocol was.

428
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And here's what Marianne had to say. Hey, Brian, it's mary Anne.

429
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I wanted to talk to you about
the podcast the other day that talked

430
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about protocol on what we were to
do if we came across a body.

431
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.720
It made me think I'm in a
position I wasn't in before because I currently

432
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lead expeditions. So I reached out
to Map Moneymaker and said, what is

433
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our protocol here at the BFRO.
Basically what I was told was, we

434
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really don't have a protocol because it's
so hard to nail down just exactly what

435
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:06.720
we should do because there are so
many variables as to what state we're in.

436
00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:11.079
Are we on private land, are
we on public land, things like

437
00:28:11.160 --> 00:28:17.640
that. I don't think we can
have a general protocol. I think basically,

438
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:22.039
as people that are doing expeditions or
just general public you need to have

439
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:26.160
this in the back of your mind. What do you do? What is

440
00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.119
going to be your plan? Because
just as sure as we're going out there

441
00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.319
without a plan, is when somebody
is going to find something. So I

442
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:36.279
think everybody needs to figure out what
their own personal plan is. Like I

443
00:28:36.319 --> 00:28:41.440
said when Moneymaker reached back out to
me, it's basically there's just too many

444
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:47.359
variables to have one set protocol.
Just a little food for thought there.

445
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:55.200
Also, I loved that Bigfoot podcast
where you guys are talking about how people

446
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:59.799
want to get all up in the
air because we're charging to take them out.

447
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.960
I agree with you guys one hundred
and ten percent. It's not just

448
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:08.319
taking people out in the woods.
There's planning, there's logistics. I feed

449
00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:14.359
my people, I take care of
them when we're out on private property.

450
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:21.160
We're bringing in porta potties and everything
else. So these people get an experience.

451
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:30.559
They are with quote unquote Bigfoot celebrities. They're being fed, they're being

452
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:36.319
taken care of some of them.
I even have all their camping equipment there

453
00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:41.079
for them. All they have to
do is show up. I agree with

454
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:45.279
you guys. These other people they're
either jealous because they don't have it in

455
00:29:45.319 --> 00:29:49.359
them to do it, or they
don't know where to start and they just

456
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:55.640
put a wine about stuff. Thanks
guys for all that you're doing. Thanks

457
00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:59.799
so much. For propoting the Ozart
Mountain Bigfoot Conference, and I can't wait

458
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:02.799
to see you guys in September.
I think we're going to have a blast.

459
00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:06.519
Bye. I think we are too. Marianne, Wayne and I are

460
00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:08.039
both stoked about that. I know
we're going to have a good time with

461
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:11.960
everybody out there. We're both definitely
looking forward to it. I think that's

462
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:17.160
cool that she reached out to Moneymaker. I was curious what somebody like Matt.

463
00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:18.920
I think Matt would have to be
involved in that conversation, At least

464
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.920
on my personal opinion, he would
need to be involved in that conversation as

465
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.319
the leader of the BFRO, one
of the biggest Bigfoot organizations out there,

466
00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:32.920
the biggest Bigfoot organization arguably it's out
there, and I find it curious.

467
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:37.640
I agree. I think it's difficult
that you have fifty states. It's difficult

468
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:41.160
to come up with something that's going
to work everywhere. It would literally have

469
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to be something that is tailored to
the laws of the state, right because

470
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.000
there's laws of in certain states.
I was reading this, I don't even

471
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.319
know why I read this. In
a recent article or something, somebody was

472
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talking about the fact that if you
are in possession of, say a body

473
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of a certain animal, it's illegal
right outside of certain times of the year,

474
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:07.319
or just in general, you can't
possess a certain mammals carcass it's illegal

475
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:10.160
because I guess people use it.
They poach, they do things with their

476
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:12.119
pelts and things like that. I
guess that's where the laws came from.

477
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.440
But would it be illegal to have
a big foot in your possession? Could

478
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.680
you call a nine one one and
say I have one, and then they

479
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:22.240
take it to jail because they use
this obscure law or whatever. So there's

480
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.039
a lot to consider there, But
I don't think it's something that we should

481
00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:27.680
just say it's just too difficult because
there's too many variables. We just shouldn't

482
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:32.519
worry about it. But I do
agree with one thing that Marianne said is

483
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.480
I think everybody who does this,
no matter what level you do it,

484
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:38.640
whether you're a complete novice and you
go out into the woods twice a year

485
00:31:40.119 --> 00:31:42.440
or you're somebody who's out there every
single week, like a doctor Russ Jones,

486
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.880
for example, who spends a couple
of hundred days a year in the

487
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.839
woods, on some level, you
got to have your own personal plan as

488
00:31:49.839 --> 00:31:53.160
far as I'm concerned, and I'm
certainly starting to think more about that,

489
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.759
and I'm going to come up with
that protocol for myself is just who do

490
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.480
I trust? Who do I call? If this happens? Am I going

491
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.039
to do? If I find something
that is beyond a shadow of a doubt,

492
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:08.039
dead body, whatever the case may
be, that we would need to

493
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:13.319
implement this protocol for I think everybody
needs to be prepared for that. Again,

494
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:16.079
I think this conversation needs to continue. And even though there is a

495
00:32:16.079 --> 00:32:22.400
lot to consider for the continental United
States, just specifically the different laws and

496
00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:25.200
the different variables, I think we
can still come up with some sort of

497
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:30.839
a protocol, even if it's just
a freaking phone tree with ten names on

498
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:35.559
it people to have and access to
call people and just say this happened?

499
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.200
What the do I do? It
doesn't have to be an end all,

500
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:43.079
be all SOP standard operating procedure protocol, but just a freaking phone tree,

501
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:45.400
a phone a friend to say,
dude, I am at a loss.

502
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.720
I don't know what to do here. I don't know what do you think

503
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:53.519
about it? Man? I don't
really agree with what Moneymaker said about different

504
00:32:53.599 --> 00:33:00.319
variables in different states. Because sasquatch
is not a proven animal, we don't

505
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:05.920
have laws in the books to when
we can possess one when we can't.

506
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:09.799
So I feel like that being said, we can come up with a flat

507
00:33:10.079 --> 00:33:15.559
standard operating procedure that should include all
the states. Because bigfoot is not a

508
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.799
recognized species, it's nothing that we're
going to get passed through Congress or anything

509
00:33:20.799 --> 00:33:23.920
like that, obviously, because it's
not a recognized species. But us as

510
00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:29.400
investigators that go out, we should
agree on something. I think that's just

511
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:34.799
my opinion. I don't see anyone
getting arrested because they found a bigfoot body.

512
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.839
What would the charges be. They
haven't been proven to be human.

513
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:43.039
If you found a human body and
kept it, obviously you would be in

514
00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.640
trouble even if you weren't the one
that killed it. But Bigfoot, as

515
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:50.799
far as we know, isn't human, despite what some people catch them may

516
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:54.039
say. So I just I don't
know. I think that we can as

517
00:33:54.079 --> 00:34:00.839
a community come up with a standard
operating procedure for what to do. Just

518
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.599
my opinion. We're definitely gonna keep
talking about it. We're willing to be

519
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:07.799
a part of that conversation for sure. I want to get into this.

520
00:34:07.920 --> 00:34:12.000
Russ over in the Bigfoot Encounters and
Field Research group on Facebook, he posts

521
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:15.800
a lot of what he calls campfire
discussions or camp fire chats around the show

522
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.400
and what we talk about on your
show, my show, Paranormal Odyssey,

523
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.519
Sasquatch Odyssey, that Bigfoot podcast,
and Russ brings up some good points.

524
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.000
He always has his opinions on things. In this first couple, here are

525
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.480
more of opinions that I'm going to
read, and then I'm going to get

526
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.320
into something that I want you and
I to have a conversation about and obviously

527
00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:37.760
get you guys involved. In number
one, Russ says, no matter how

528
00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:40.079
good a picture is, it isn't
going to prove Bigfoot. So it doesn't

529
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:45.119
matter if people post Paradoia pictures.
There may be something there, there may

530
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:49.119
not be something there. It doesn't
matter because a picture isn't going to prove

531
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:53.079
Bigfoot, so you don't need to
debate that anymore. Right, I disagree

532
00:34:53.079 --> 00:35:00.039
with that. Although pictures may not
prove Bigfoot's existence, it certainly hurts the

533
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.559
conversation. That's the whole reason that
you and I have such a hard time

534
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:08.800
with red circle squatches. And Paradolia
pictures for all of the reasons that we've

535
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:14.480
stated so many different times. It's
not about proving the species with a picture

536
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.519
or a video. It's about what
it does to take away from the research.

537
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:20.719
R Us. So, that's what
it's really all about for me.

538
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.159
I don't know if you have anything
different to say, Wayne, but that's

539
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.960
really what it is. When we're
calling people out like Harley with his Paradolia

540
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:31.199
pictures and Sandy sees Bigfoot every time
he goes out, that hurts more than

541
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:36.239
it helps in my opinion. Yeah, there's absolutely nothing I can add to

542
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:38.920
that. You said it perfectly.
I agree with for us that pictures are

543
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:43.199
never going to be the proof that's
needed. It's never gonna happen. I've

544
00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:45.960
said it many times. You can
get the best quality picture in the world

545
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:51.400
of a Sasquart standing outside your window. What's one hundred percent real someone's gonna

546
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.679
screenplay. It's never gonna be enough. A picture is never going to be

547
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:59.000
enough. But those kind of pictures
hurt us. So I agree with you

548
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.800
one thousand percent. Number two here
Russ says, I don't have to give

549
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:06.920
you money. I have the choice
to spend my money or not on Bigfoot,

550
00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.360
So that debate can be put to
rest. Right again, No,

551
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:15.360
it can't, Russ, because there's
still people pissed off about it, and

552
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:19.000
that's why the debate continues. We
have no problem with it. We've said

553
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.159
it over and over. That is
correct. That's how capitalistic society works.

554
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.239
You either give your money to somebody
because you're getting something that you perceive to

555
00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.239
be valuable or not. But some
people just don't get that. Mary Anne

556
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:34.679
just talked about it in the second
part of her voicemail. She deals with

557
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.440
that she puts on these events You
and I are going to speak at this

558
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.440
event that she's got going on in
September, that people are paying money to

559
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.559
come see us and hear us and
spend time in the woods with us.

560
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.960
We didn't make them do that.
They're doing that on their own accord because

561
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:55.320
they see value in hearing you and
I speak and spending time with us in

562
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:59.480
the woods. It's just that simple. So no, RUSS. Unfortunately,

563
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:04.159
until everybody stops trying to bring that
up as a point of contention and saying

564
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:07.280
that people like Wayne and I shouldn't
be doing that, we can't put that

565
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.440
debate to rest because it's going to
continue to get perpetuated, don't you agree?

566
00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:15.800
Why you hit it again? What's
next? This is number three on

567
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.639
this particular post. Cloaking is not
out of the range of possibilities. Octopus

568
00:37:20.679 --> 00:37:24.679
can cloak, so it is possible
for animals to cloak portals. I'm gonna

569
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.599
know on portals again. To his
point, yes, octopus do have the

570
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.199
ability to change colors, blend in
with their environments. In essence, as

571
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:38.719
he said, cloak. I think
that's a little bit different when it comes

572
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:44.880
to bigfoot because here's the rub I
have with that. And we've talked about

573
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.119
it before, and I've compared these
animals and said, yeah, some of

574
00:37:47.159 --> 00:37:52.599
these animals have these superabilities that may
not be supernatural. They're just superabilities that

575
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:59.639
octopus have. And cuddlefish can change
colors and blend with their environments. But

576
00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:04.320
you're talking talking about an octopus and
a cuddlefish versus a seven to eight foot

577
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:08.840
tall, upright walking bipedal what I
would consider to be a primate, some

578
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.599
sort of a hominid, right or
homanoid. I don't know any comparisons,

579
00:38:14.639 --> 00:38:19.679
right, because if you say octopus
can cloak, so chimpanzees should be able

580
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:23.719
to cloak. I've never seen a
cloaking chimpanzee or an orangutan, so that's

581
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:27.760
the rub that I have with comparing
them. Yes, it is possible that

582
00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:31.519
animals do that. We know known
species that are able to change shape and

583
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:37.039
change color to blend. But if
you can't say that with a known species

584
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:40.880
that would be comparable to what I
believe a sasquatch is, then I don't

585
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.000
think there's an argument there. To
be honest with you, that makes sense

586
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:46.679
for me. I don't know if
what I'm saying makes sense to you,

587
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:51.519
But don't you feel the same way. If yeah, we say octopus can

588
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:55.199
change colors and cloak, no argument, John down the street from me should

589
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.480
be able to do that too.
In theory, right, John can't cloak,

590
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:02.119
so is he weird or you know
what I'm saying. I just I

591
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:06.360
don't see the comparison there. Even
though it is possible for animals like that,

592
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.239
if there's not a known species that
we can point to that does similar

593
00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:14.719
things. Now, if orangutans were
known to be cloakers, could change color

594
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:17.719
and cloak like the predator, then
you point to that and say, yeah,

595
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:21.679
orangutans do it so Sasquatch, if
they exist, can probably do it.

596
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:24.280
I'm right there with you, But
comparing apples and oranges, it just

597
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:29.360
doesn't make sense. Ron. Let
me ask you this, Cloaking and disappearing

598
00:39:29.559 --> 00:39:31.880
aren't the same thing, correct.
I guess that depends on who you ask,

599
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:36.440
because here's how I interpret it.
And I'm certainly no expert in any

600
00:39:36.480 --> 00:39:38.599
of these things, cloaking or disappearing. But to me, when I say

601
00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:43.880
cloaking, it comes back to the
Klingon ships Star Trek, right. They

602
00:39:43.880 --> 00:39:46.639
have cloaking abilities. The ship is
still there. It's in the same position

603
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:51.400
that it was before. Some people
have claimed that alien ships have been seen

604
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:55.559
cloaking. I've seen videos that look
very compelling to me that they use clouds

605
00:39:55.639 --> 00:40:00.400
and other things in the environment to
cloak to mimic their surroundings, but they're

606
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:05.280
still physically there. It's a solid
object that you can see. To me,

607
00:40:05.360 --> 00:40:07.760
if something disappears, it's fucking gone, dude. It's gone. Right.

608
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.159
It's like me having a Hershey kiss
in my hand and I put it

609
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:14.519
in my mouth and swallow. It's
gone. It's no longer where it was.

610
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:19.119
So to me, that's the differentiator
for cloaking versus disappearing in my mind,

611
00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:22.000
so I would say they're different.
Cloaking it can appear to be gone,

612
00:40:22.079 --> 00:40:27.800
but it's still there. Disappearing is
it's out. So cloaking essentially is

613
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:32.199
just blending in with your environment exactly. Wait, so I believe that's possible.

614
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.800
I believe that they could do that. What are their reported colors that

615
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:40.519
we see? It's brown, light, brown, red, black. All

616
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:45.400
these colors are in the forest,
especially in autumn. I think that that

617
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.760
would be possible. But as far
as disappearing, that's what I have a

618
00:40:47.800 --> 00:40:52.960
problem with, just jumping from one
dimension to another, the whole quantum physics

619
00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:57.360
thing that I don't get. Also, portals, I don't know what to

620
00:40:57.360 --> 00:41:01.119
think about portals because all of the
missing persons cases I've been doing over on

621
00:41:01.159 --> 00:41:06.440
Paranormal Odyssey, which people are loving, and I'm just loving doing them.

622
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.760
For a long time, I thought
portals might be an explanation for some of

623
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.480
this stuff. But one, maybe
not the last one I put up,

624
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.159
but the one before. Two weeks
ago, I did this missing person's episode

625
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:25.480
on Paranormal Odyssey about three cases that
looked at in the beginning to be paranormal

626
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:30.920
like someone stepped into a portal or
was abducted by an alien or bigfoot guide

627
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:35.679
them. That's what people thought at
first, but it turned out there was

628
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:40.079
perfectly acceptable explanations. The first one
there was this, I think a three

629
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:44.840
by three hole that was covered up
by tall grass and stuff, and this

630
00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:49.280
gentleman fell in it, in this
forty foot deep How he was found was

631
00:41:49.519 --> 00:41:52.679
a rescuer almost stepped into the same
hole. People were talking about him being

632
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:57.199
abducted by aliens when he fell into
a hole. The next one was this

633
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.280
woman got caught in a rock slide. Rescuers were out there for days looking

634
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:04.159
for her. A couple of days
go by and someone sees the bottom of

635
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.320
a boot sticking out. Well,
we're talking to those hockets we're talking about

636
00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:08.400
she was abducted, But no,
she was caught. In the last lie,

637
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:13.679
and the last one, this dude
was missing for fifty three years and

638
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.199
a rock fell on him, a
boulder fell on him, and he was

639
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:22.480
underneath this thing for fifty something years. People swore he was abducted or something

640
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.679
else took him, but something happened
and they found him. I don't know

641
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.199
why I got off on that tangent
portals. I was talking about portals that

642
00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:35.239
sometimes these things can be explained.
Yeah, man, I think it's Okham's

643
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.519
razor all the way. I say
it all the time. There's a reason

644
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:45.760
that I try to operate under the
Okham's razor banner and say the simplest explanation

645
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:52.039
is probably the explanation. If you're
out in the wilderness, it's more likely

646
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:53.760
that you're going to fall into a
fucking hole than you're going to be abducted

647
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:59.519
by aliens or taken by a bigfoot. It just happens to work that way.

648
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:06.239
But again, most people want to
go to those extraordinary explanations because the

649
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:09.800
mundane just doesn't seem as exciting or
it's just not something that's really on people's

650
00:43:09.880 --> 00:43:14.440
radar. So I don't know,
man, Really quickly. Russ also posted

651
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:19.000
about the Rowan Oak episode. He
said his campfire chat was that Bigfoot Podcast

652
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:22.159
episode fifty three, great episode on
the Royal Note, Lost Colony. Everything

653
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:27.119
you guys bring us as entertaining,
bring us whatever content you want. We

654
00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.719
definitely appreciate that, Russ, and
we will continue to do that. Here's

655
00:43:29.760 --> 00:43:31.039
the meat and potatoes I want to
get into then, I'm going to leave

656
00:43:31.039 --> 00:43:34.960
you guys with a little bit of
a teaser for what I want to talk

657
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.199
to Wayne about on the next episode. And I haven't even mentioned this Dwayne,

658
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:38.960
so it's going to be a little
bit of a surprise for him.

659
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.760
I want to see his reaction.
But before we get into that, let's

660
00:43:42.760 --> 00:43:46.039
talk about this campfire chat that Russ
posted a day or so ago. Number

661
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:52.199
One, why is there absolutely no
collaboration in the bigfoot community? If people

662
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:57.559
are really serious about proving this,
they would combine resources and money and do

663
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:02.239
a long term study like a year
at a place like Snellgrove Lake. Why

664
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:06.920
why not? And then he says, take a group up to where Fred

665
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.039
is in Alaska. Those bigfoot come
right out in the open. So that

666
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:15.280
brought something up to the forefront from
me. I'm using this topic to springboard

667
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.920
into and I'm going to write about
this in a little bit here for the

668
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:22.119
newsletter, because I think that is
a really good question that I have asked

669
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.639
myself over and over again, is
why isn't there more of that? We

670
00:44:24.719 --> 00:44:29.199
have places like Area X. I've
said it before. I think if there

671
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.239
is, and I'm still trying to
work my way out there. It may

672
00:44:31.239 --> 00:44:35.199
not happen this year, but I
want to go at least in the next

673
00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:37.159
year or so. I want to
get out there and either get in with

674
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:42.119
Area X or the valley next door, because I think if these things are

675
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.719
real and they do exist, that
is the place to have an experience with

676
00:44:45.800 --> 00:44:51.880
them, in my opinion, even
more so than Radium or Nordic or some

677
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:55.360
of the other places that Todd has
claimed to have ongoing activity. I think

678
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:59.400
that is the place to go.
But there are other places. Fred from

679
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:04.559
Alaska, like Russ said, I
have Fred on weekly sharing the encounter story

680
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:07.599
after encounter story, and I haven't
looked at the map. I haven't even

681
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.440
asked Fred about this. But if
I was a betting man, I would

682
00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:16.519
say it's probably within a five mile
stretch on this river where a ton of

683
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:23.000
these encounters happen. That's not a
huge area. If people were serious about

684
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:28.559
this, researchers were serious about this, why aren't people pooling their resources?

685
00:45:28.719 --> 00:45:31.960
Why aren't more people invited into Area
X, Why aren't more people invited into

686
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:37.400
the valley next door? And stay
tuned for more sasquat chat to see We'll

687
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:45.119
be right back after these messages I'm
asking a rhetorical question here because I think

688
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:47.400
I already know the answer at least
some of the answers that I've come up

689
00:45:47.400 --> 00:45:51.000
with and jotted down this morning for
myself that I'm going to talk about it

690
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.760
in the newsletter. But that is
a good question. Why aren't we doing

691
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.599
more of that? Why don't you
think we're doing more of that? Wayne?

692
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.400
Do you think it has to do
with ego? Does it come down

693
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:04.000
to this? Happened recently. I
saw this on Facebook when we were talking

694
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.760
about charging and doing campouts and charging
people for campouts. Somebody made the comment

695
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:12.719
on Facebook, if a person has
a really good hot spot a number one,

696
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:15.239
they're not going to invite you out
there, So they're just charging you

697
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.920
to go to wherever place is.
And you're probably not going to have any

698
00:46:17.920 --> 00:46:22.159
activity with the Bigfoot anyway, because
most people know if you have an active

699
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.599
spot, you don't invite people in. You keep it for yourself. Is

700
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:29.119
that what it really boils down to
for you? Have you had a conversation

701
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:30.760
with people or have you thought about
this question? And what is it for

702
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:37.039
you that prevents us from collaborating and
solving this problem and this mystery? Once

703
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.159
and for all I was thinking it
while you were first talking about this,

704
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:44.880
and then you hit it on the
head, Brian. I think it's the

705
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:50.880
ego. It's the same reason when
I started Manimal Research, I looked into

706
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:54.800
joining other existing organizations. But one
thing that kind of stirred me away from

707
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:59.239
it was all of the name calling, the finger pointing, you're a liar,

708
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:02.159
you're a hoax. This person didn't
do this person did that, And

709
00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:07.039
I think that's why people can't work
together. What if some of these huge

710
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.719
bigfoot research organizations, like the wood
Ad Conservacy and the BFRO, what if

711
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:17.159
they combined forces and pulled all the
resources together as just this joint effort.

712
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:22.480
That'd be pretty cool. I think
maybe we'd get a lot further. But

713
00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:24.760
like you said, Brian, I
think it's ego. I think everyone wants

714
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.719
to be the first person to get
one. Each group wants that title bigfoot

715
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:37.599
sasquatch was discovered by the BFRO or
by the wood Ad Conservacy, by Manimal

716
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:42.360
Research, everybody wants that title.
That's what I feel. If we can

717
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.400
get past that and everyone worked together, if there was a global or a

718
00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:52.880
national organization where we all belong to
with set protocols, standard operating procedures.

719
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:57.639
I feel like we could get further, but I could be wrong. It

720
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.760
sounds like we need to found this
said organization and do it ourselves. But

721
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:06.280
that's a good point to your point. I've thought about that, and I'm

722
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.000
not calling anybody out. I like
the North American Wood Ap Conservancy. I

723
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.840
think they do great stuff. I
like most of those guys. I know

724
00:48:12.880 --> 00:48:15.800
a lot of those guys, and
I'm not talking badly about anybody, So

725
00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:19.280
don't get us wrong here. I'm
not beating up on anybody. But I

726
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:23.880
have that same question. Why would
the BFRO not go to them and say,

727
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:27.960
look, you guys are trying to
get coverage, right. They only

728
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.480
go out three to four months out
of the year. It's less than half

729
00:48:30.519 --> 00:48:34.960
the year they have somebody in area
X. It's not a twenty four hour

730
00:48:35.079 --> 00:48:37.920
day, seven day a week,
three hundred and sixty five days a year

731
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.519
that they have somebody out there.
These guys have jobs and other parts of

732
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.400
their lives, and there's only so
many of them in the organization, so

733
00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:49.199
they have to take out teams.
You obviously can't be out there by yourself,

734
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.000
or they don't want people out there
by themselves for safety concerns and other

735
00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.320
things. So you get four or
five guys out there for three months at

736
00:48:55.320 --> 00:48:59.840
a time. If you only have
ten or twenty people in the organization,

737
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.320
that's only a small amount of the
year. Why not have the BFRO.

738
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:09.400
BFRO does expeditions all the time,
Lori Wade. We've got Mary Anne out

739
00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:14.840
of Missouri taking people out. All
that have to do literally is come together

740
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.639
for one twelve month period and say, you know what, BFRO is going

741
00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:22.400
to do nothing but exclusive Area X
expeditions. We're going to have somebody out

742
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:25.280
there twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week for the entire three

743
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:30.639
hundred and sixty five days of this
year. Because we have tens of thousands

744
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.880
of members across the country versus ten
or fifteen members in the North American Wood

745
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:38.920
Ape Conservancy. Problem solved. Everybody's
got a camera, everybody's got a video

746
00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:43.280
camera, everybody's got audio. Then
you've got all these boots on the ground

747
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.559
and eyes on the prize. You're
going to get something. And if you're

748
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:52.320
out there to take a sample,
to bring down one of them and say

749
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.400
here's a body, you got that
as well. So I know it sounds

750
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:59.239
a lot easier with us just sitting
behind the microphone and talking about it.

751
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.400
There's a lot of logistics that would
have to go into that. But I

752
00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:06.119
don't understand why more people aren't asking
the question why is that not happening?

753
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.519
Because there's plenty of other organizations,
and honestly, I think it comes down

754
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.440
to a ton of things. And
again, I'm gonna write about it in

755
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:14.920
the newsletter today, but a couple
of the things I think is ego,

756
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:20.480
and again it's protection of your space. I'm very protective of our research area

757
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.559
because it's where I live. So
I'm not gonna just have Joe Schmoe anybody

758
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:28.719
out here because clearly I have people
who don't like me very much. So

759
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.280
I don't want Long Dong Silver showing
up or whatever his name is on an

760
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:37.960
expedition and then shooting at me or
whatever burning my fricking house down, right,

761
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:40.360
So I have to be somewhat careful. But we have had plenty of

762
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:44.880
conversations, and Danny and I are
planning on opening up at least part of

763
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.440
our land to devote to have other
people come out here and do research,

764
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.679
because I believe there's possible activity going
on here. So we're even willing to

765
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.559
do that. But I think it
just boils down to, like you said,

766
00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.800
people want to be the ones to
do it, and that's fine.

767
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:02.599
I guess I get that on some
level. But if we all have a

768
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:07.480
similar goal in mind, which is
discovery, which I think for a lot

769
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.039
of us it is. Some people
it's not. But for those people that

770
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:14.599
it is important for, I think
we could do a better job of coming

771
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:22.840
together and working collaboratively to get it
at least video evidence or do camera traps

772
00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:28.199
right if you pull the resources you
can put ton think about BFRO and North

773
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.920
American Wood Ape Conservancy coming together for
twelve months and doing a camera trap experiment,

774
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.119
doing another one of the tagging experiments
that they did a couple of years

775
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.360
ago, having people to constantly man
that, and there's so much that could

776
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:44.480
be done. But I just don't
see it happening. And to Russ's point,

777
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.159
there doesn't seem to be a whole
lot of collaboration. It's an individual

778
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.480
game that people are playing for their
own reasons. I just don't understand it.

779
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:54.239
I would love to be the one
to help bring more people together,

780
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:58.840
but I just don't see it happening
because there is so much ego. Again,

781
00:51:58.920 --> 00:52:01.320
it's something I'm going to talk about
in the newsletter as a community.

782
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.280
Dude, we can't even decide if
these things are fucking flesh and blood or

783
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.239
they're aliens. We've talked about that
before, and as long as that's going

784
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:14.840
on, those people are never going
to come together and work cohesively to do

785
00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:16.559
anything because they're just going to be
arguing. You just think it's flesh and

786
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:21.320
blood. You're an apor and I
think that they get dropped off by aliens

787
00:52:21.360 --> 00:52:27.119
and their DNA has been manipulated Ron
Moorehead millions of years ago by aliens.

788
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:29.920
Oh, we're never going to get
anywhere. We're just going to continue to

789
00:52:30.039 --> 00:52:32.880
argue about what everybody thinks, and
we're getting no closer to any answers for

790
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.239
anybody. So we'd love to hear
what you guys think about that. Obviously,

791
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.719
you'd like to send us an email
and or a voicemail. We'd love

792
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.880
to have your input. And here's
the nugget that I want to leave you

793
00:52:43.920 --> 00:52:45.960
with. Actually had this written down
to talk about today, but we're not

794
00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.360
going to get into it, Wayne, because we babbled on about so much

795
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:53.960
other shit. I had a conversation
with Logan yesterday and Logan. For those

796
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:58.840
who are familiar, he's been up
to Radium I think four or five times

797
00:52:58.840 --> 00:53:01.320
at this point. He has been
on tons of expeditions with Todd. I've

798
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:06.079
had him on the show to share
his experiences a couple of times. Logan

799
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.480
is a very intelligent dude. He
as an engineer. He reached out to

800
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:12.920
me about a week or so ago. We kept trying to set up a

801
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.719
time to get on the phone together. I finally called him yesterday. I

802
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:19.599
think we talked for about forty five
minutes to an hour. He's been working

803
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:23.159
on this new project for about nine
months now and it's finally come into fruition.

804
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.880
He's headed up to Radium I think
in the next four or five days

805
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:31.320
as we record this, because they're
going to do a camera project at base

806
00:53:31.360 --> 00:53:38.440
Camp in Radium in Todd's standing's research
area. He has purchased high dollar cameras.

807
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.760
These things are top of the line, expensive cameras that can do a

808
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lot of shit night vision three sixty
tilt. They're going to run twenty four

809
00:53:49.079 --> 00:53:52.400
hours a day, seven days a
week, three hundred and sixty five days

810
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a year at Base camp where I
had. Frankly, the majority of the

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activity I experience and what most people
experience in Radium is in that general vicinity

812
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as far as rock throwing, whoops, yells, tree knocks, those kind

813
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of things and sidings. For the
last two sightings that I've documented from Kyle

814
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and Richard have come from ten feet
away from the fire ring right there at

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base camp. Logan's last experience he
had was last year. He slept outside

816
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and nothing but a sleeping bag,
and he thinks a sasquatch walked up right

817
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behind him in base camp. That
said, I was excited about it.

818
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I was a little apprehensive because I
told Logan, it's one of those things,

819
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dude, just like you said earlier, Wayne, to your point,

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you can get the best photographic evidence
or the best video possible of one of

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these things, and there's going to
be somebody that yells fake. And if

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you're involving Todd's standing in it at
Todd's base camp, and you get video

823
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.920
of what looks like a purported sasquatch, you're gonna have to deal with that.

824
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But I still think it's a good
idea. I don't think anybody's ever

825
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done that. I know, nobody's
ever done that there. He spent a

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00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:57.880
ton of time, a ton of
energy, and a ton of money to

827
00:54:57.960 --> 00:55:01.079
get the infrastructure there because there's no
power. This is eighteen miles deep into

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the woods, so they're putting solar
up. That's what he's working on,

829
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is getting the cameras up and getting
the solar in place so they can keep

830
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these things going twenty four hours a
day, seven days a week, keep

831
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the juice, and keep the star
link up as well. That's the other

832
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part of it. Logan has developed
an app that's going to launch where people

833
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:22.559
can sign up, subscribe on this
app, and you'll be able to gain

834
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:27.719
access twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week to these video streams

835
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from base Camp and Radium. He
even said, I don't know anything about

836
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the back end. I'm not an
engineer, but he was talking about in

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the app, people are going to
have the ability if you see something,

838
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.239
you're going to be able to capture
and save the last sixty seconds of buffer

839
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video. So if you see something
while you're watching it, you can actually

840
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.079
save this, you can share it
to people, you can send it.

841
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I think it's a good tool,
man. I think if there's something going

842
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on up there. Legitimately, I
think something like this is what needs to

843
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happen for people to be able to
access and capture this stuff. So I

844
00:55:57.360 --> 00:55:59.599
don't know. I just wanted to
get your opinion on it. We don't

845
00:55:59.639 --> 00:56:01.519
have to really to get into it
now. I want to talk a little

846
00:56:01.559 --> 00:56:05.440
bit about the what ifs and those
kind of things on the next episode.

847
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.280
I told Logan maybe the next time
we record, if he has the ability

848
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.559
to work it out, I'd like
to maybe jump on the phone with him

849
00:56:10.559 --> 00:56:14.800
and have him on for ten minutes
or so and give us a better breakdown

850
00:56:14.840 --> 00:56:17.559
of his trip up to radium this
week when he gets it set up and

851
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:21.039
when we can expect the app to
launch, And obviously, if we have

852
00:56:21.039 --> 00:56:23.159
any questions or if anybody wants to
submit questions, we can certainly ask that

853
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:25.360
of Logan. But I thought it
was an interesting thing. But what is

854
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:30.079
your initial gut reaction to here and
that's going on? Yeah, I think

855
00:56:30.119 --> 00:56:35.480
we need to save that for our
next discussion because I have a few things

856
00:56:35.519 --> 00:56:37.639
to say about it. I think
it's awesome, that would be an amazing

857
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:43.440
thing to do. Concerned about the
location, obviously, but I think we

858
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definitely need to get into that more
when we have more time. There you

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00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.760
have it, folks, we'd love
to hear from you. Guys. You

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00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.760
can email us if you have any
questions, you have any thoughts on that

861
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:57.760
the Radium camera project, send us
an email Brian and or Wayne at Paranormal

862
00:56:57.840 --> 00:57:00.119
World Productions dot com. Leave us
voice smail. That's right here in the

863
00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:02.480
show notes. All you got to
do is click the button and talk away.

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00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:05.639
We'd love to have you be a
part of the show. And as

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always, my friend, you get
the last word. Hi, everybody,

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00:57:08.679 --> 00:57:14.159
Thank you so very much for all
of the continued support. The emails are

867
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awesome. We threw out the challenge
on the last episode said that you guys

868
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were getting lazy with the emails,
and you stepped up till We appreciate that.

869
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:28.880
Please keep them coming your voicemails as
well. Please continue to rate and

870
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review all of the shows here at
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00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:37.519
you again, y'all, take care
of yourself, take care of each other.

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Bye. L