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It's the Internet. You're busy,
let's do this. Welcome to the Game

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Mesticides podcast. This is the podcast
where we decide everything about the world of

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video games so you never have to
think for yourself. I'm your host Jeff

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Grubb. With me is Mike Manati. In today's episode, it's all bad.

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It's all bad. I mean,
the video games are good and they

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sell and everyone said, yeah for
now. There's a countdown on that,

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apparently because we're firing everybody who makes
them. Is this a good strategy.

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We'll discuss this and more on today's
episode of Games Deicides. In the meantime,

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Mikey, how are you doing fine. I'm leaving imminently on a little

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trip. I am kind of looking
forward to that to just I'm looking forward

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to getting some time away. You've
earned it. It's you know, like,

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okay, so it's just so great
to be a goober in a theme

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park. Of course. Oh,
your biggest worry is like what ride has

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the ideal wait time right now?
And like while you're thinking about that,

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there's like like five people trying to
entertain you in the meantime, and there's

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like firework shooting off some guys juggling
over there. Somebody wants to sell you

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a churo. I'm like, yeah, that's right. When I when I

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am engaging in entertainment, one of
the things I like to do is and

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this is like to like make myself
be more appreciative. Is I like to

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think the amount of money spent per
minute to entertain me. So I go

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watch a movie and it's like,
like, who cares how many other people

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watching this? They spent two million
dollars a minute to make me entertained by

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this thing. That's awesome. I
play a video game, I feel the

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same way. Park too much money
a minute these days? Yeah, a

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little bit, Yeah, But I
go to theme park and it just feels

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like, well, this is infinite. I can't even calculate how much LEADER

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imagine them. I can't even imagine
it. I do think very fondly on

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the time we were we spent at
Disneyland. That was a very good time.

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That Star Wars stuff was actually kind
of special to me. I really

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enjoyed that. So looking forward to
getting back there. Just wait'll we get

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like a full day and I really
show you the magics. Yep, I'm

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looking forward to me and stuff are
talking more seriously about it all the time.

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If we can afford it, we'll
see, we'll see if we can

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make it happen. But that's the
idea. You know what, Let's get

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and it was just great to see. So thank you everybody. It means

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a ton, all right, big
topics, everyone's laying people off. The

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entire industry is just like shedding jobs
at least five percent, sometimes up to

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eight percent at any one of these
companies. Sony late a bunch of people

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off. EA just did as well. As part of this is they are

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scaling back on the kinds of games
that they're making. They are making fewer

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games. They are canceling games that
either were announced most that weren't announced,

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including at like it seems like that
Twisted Metal game at Sony was canceled at

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EA, that Star Wars first person
shooter from Respawn was canceled. A handful

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of things more have been likely put
on ice as well. But really this

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goes back to, Hey, the
industry seems like a really tough place to

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be to be working in right now. The companies have had years of growth,

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They have been making bigger games than
ever on the backs of incredible workers

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who are they are now letting go
sort of without remorse, and it feels

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real bad. Mike, how are
you feeling about it? It's obviously terrible

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people losing their jobs. It would
at least be some kind of silver lining.

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You'd be like, well, at
least these people maybe know what they're

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doing and this is for the future
of the industry. But we know they

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don't know what they're doing. I
mean, just look at EA canceling this

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Mandalorian Star Wars game that everybody working
on it thought was great, the playtesters

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thought was great based on the biggest
ip in the world by one of the

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best game of opers in the world, and just canceled because a studio,

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a publisher that thought going all in
on you know, other people's ip on

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license game was the move. So
I was like, ah, no,

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it wasn't, yep, and this
is not You're not they don't know what

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they're doing. It's not like you
going from your guy, we know this.

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I've heard that. That is the
flip flop that has happened here a

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couple like, not even a couple
of years ago, last year, and

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the year before it was we need
ips from other companies because that's a safer

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risk than anything else. And now
it is suddenly a waste of money.

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And so we're not going to make
this game. Like you said, everything

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in its favor, every box is
checked except for one in that box is

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do we have to hand a little
bit of money at the end to Disney?

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Yes, Okay, well we're not
going to do that anymore. And

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so what's the alternative that's not like
that, Like there's just going to be

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another game that's going to be releasing
that that time frame a couple of years

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now. Yeah, game might have
been like four years away. That's that's

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totally possible. Could be even further
than that. They're just not going to

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have a game from that studio of
that kind in four years. Meanwhile,

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they are, they're working on Apex
Legends still, And I'm like, the

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way the way it sounds like things
are happening with that is they are,

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if not winding it down definitely like
pulling back on investing in that game now.

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So it's like even like that money
maker for them, that was the

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backbone of not just respond, but
of all of e A. Not EA

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Sports. They kind of have a
division between them now, but all of

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EA games. Uh is they're they're
like there's a you know these companies often

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like go out to others to like
make trailers for them and stuff. Well,

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they they've just cut off that relationship
completely. So it's like they are

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not going to be promoting these games
anymore. So they must just not have

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faith in that either. So it's
like, uh, okay, what what

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what are you going to have over
the next several years and four or five

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years from now when you look back
on the investments you are making now,

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and really it's not investments, it
is pulling back in every way. You're

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gonna be in a situation where if
people are wanting to buy games, you're

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not gonna have anything to sell them. How is this a strategy for the

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future, And we know the answer, it's not. It's a strategy for

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next quarter, right, because now
you don't have to pump money into that

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game that you're like slightly worried about
not getting a big return and on later.

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It's all incredibly short sighted. The
system is meant to encourage people to

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take risks. This is something that
you said right so that you know everybody

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can make more money. But the
system is broken. It's not it's only

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designed to make sure you do well
the next quarter, and then once you

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get there, then maybe you'll worry
about the next quarter and then you figure

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out all these things that you did
to three four years ago are really fucking

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you up over there. But uh
well, we'll deal with it now by

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making even more problems for another future
version of yourself and closing studios, canceling

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games. I know there's good games
coming out right now, and a lot

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of that is because there was a
lot of investment happening around this time three

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four years absolutely, yeah, And
it's just it's kind of scary to think

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about what is this going to all
look like in another few years, especially

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now that it's it's it's trendy.
It's just straight up trendy to lay people

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off. It's keeping well. Now, we got to do it too.

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We don't want to miss out on
this opportunity if we're the one company that

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has bad looking growth in our quarterly
earnings. Because we are paying all these

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people that we paid to make our
fucking video games, We're gonna look like

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schmucks, and so fuck cut them
loose. We can't be out here alone

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on a limb, no way.
It sucks. It sucks. It's so

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infuriating because it really is just it's
such a broken system, and it's like,

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clearly there's some huge disconnect. We
can like see it. Like,

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you know, they're so obsessed with
the next quarter games take six years to

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make, Like you just can't square
that circle. It is like they're never

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gonna be able to like think about
games in any real, real long term

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way, and so they're gonna just
keep chasing the trend that is right in

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front of their very eyes because they
can't imagine trying to encourage a studio to

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come up with a new idea,
even though it was proven to like we're

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talking about EA, proven to them
over and over again that when you do

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that with Respawn, you win.
You did it with Jedi, You let

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them figure out a game that would
be good for that, let them like

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just experiment a little bit. They
won. They took what they were doing

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with titan Fall, and they won
eventually With Apex Legends, it's like you

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have a studio with a model that
works, and the whole idea coming out

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of Apex Legends was we are going
to model everything after Respawn, and a

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couple years later, it's like fucking
scrap that we're not even we're not even

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trying that anymore. We never even
actually let it like play out. We're

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already giving up on it. You
has not missed. I just can't believe

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you just don't let them do what
they want. But if you're disappointing the

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sales of titan Fall two, guess
whose fault that was? The assholes have

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decided to release it right in the
middle of Battlefield and Call of Duty,

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one of the dumbest decisions that it
was clearly a better game than them.

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It would have done so well as
a summer release. It was such a

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great game, and if like,
you just can't you can't help but only

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look at the numbers, which is
so bizarre. There are so many other

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metrics that make a game company successful, like releasing good games that maybe aren't

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the biggest deal in the world,
that does good things for your company that

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makes you money, that builds brand
affinity, it does all these other things.

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Like Titanfall two was good for EA
in ways that I can't just show

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it to them on a pie chart, but of course it was. And

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we have to have a little imagination
here. Yeah, this is an extreme

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lack of imagination and an extreme lack
of a belief in video games being the

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answer to your problems. And it's
such like a like one step four,

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two steps back. Sometimes you feel
like these companies are getting it, and

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then they see their shadow when they
come out of their hole for the winter

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and it's six more weeks of canceling
games and freaking out, and they are

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you know, we talked about the
laying people off and canceling games. Well

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yeah, you said studios were closed
EA Ridgeline that was working on the single

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player stuff for Battlefield, Well they're
shutting that down. And you like you

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could see a world in which if
you have a team dedicated to making single

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player stuff for Battlefield, that can
like get get that series back on track

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in some ways, while you know
another team is working on the core multiplayer

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stuff. You get like a bad
company back out there. People will go

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buck wild for that if it hits
correctly. So it's like, Nope,

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you're just not gonna believe in that. Whatever. Sony closing down London Studios,

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which did like The Getaway and now
has recently been working on VR stuff,

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and it's like, you made them
work on VR games, so clear

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you wanted you needed someone to make
big VR games for PlayStation VR, and

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then their games didn't sell very very
well because you made them make games for

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VR. How dare you close them? It's insane? Whose fault is this?

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It is infuriating. I can't believe
that we continue to get back here

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over and over again. What's what
scared them so much about making a Star

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Wars game? They're still they're still
making another Jedi game. And apparently that's

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you know, because it's proven itself, right, that's something that it's a

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story they could tell themselves. We've
had success two times in a row.

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We'll have it a third time.
Yeah, well, guess what the hottest

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thing in Star Wars right now is
a freaking Mandalorian Like if I can't imagine

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a safer thing. But aside from
that, did did the Dead Space remake

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like make more money for them than
Star Wars Jedi Survivor or something, and

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did that freak them out? I
mean, I don't I don't know about

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that. It probably made a decent
enough of money. And here's what how

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it was related to me. They
fucking love not paying a FIFA. They're

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like, man, we last year
we didn't pay FIFA for the first time,

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and our football game, our soccer
game sold just as well. Uh

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and so and we Basically they were
able to use all that money they saved

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then to invest in their studios and
their employees and people around. No.

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Uh and so they are now looking
to replicate that across their entire portfolio.

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Basically, they want to have that
same sort of you know, money saved,

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money earned situation happen over and over
again. And it's like that is

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such the opposite of the held wisdom
that you were just saying to your company

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last year. How did you have
I mean just because one thing changed whatever?

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I mean, It's like, do
not see that it's not applicable to

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do what you did with FIFA in
the soccer game to other things. You

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can't just take Star Wars out of
your shooter and make something that is going

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to have the appeal of that.
It's going to take a lot of work.

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It's possible, you can do it, but like you just took the

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FIFA name off the soccer game and
no one cared because you are the soccer

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game for the entire world. It's
not the same, right, I don't

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know. So it's so especially troublesome
because we do look at the numbers and

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games are selling and people are showing
up and everyone's so enthusiastic, and you

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know, gaming's like the biggest content
on YouTube, it's the biggest some of

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the biggest content on TikTok. It
is culturally bigger than it's ever been.

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It is in no way resembling what
the crash looked like in nineteen eighty three,

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where it's like people were like,
oh, video games were a fad,

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they're not going to make good ones. I keep buying games and they're

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all bad, and so I'm just
done with games. And of course this

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does not apply to the entire gaming
market, but there was a significant reduction

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and the amount of money that people
were spending on games, and there's a

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significant reduction of like your ability to
buy games because stores said, see I'm

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not gonna we're not gonna deal with
you anymore. So it's like the access

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to games went away. Games are
everywhere you. Everywhere you turn, you

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have a different option for a different
kind of game. Like it's just such

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a different place. And yet these
companies are acting as if everything is going

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to implode, and it's just it's
just not how it's working. And if

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they have evidence that it's going to
change, and it's like they clearly don't.

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That's not what this is about.
This is about having a little bit

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of growth show up on the chart
for the next quarter. That's all this

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is. And they are so much
trying to justify cutting off all these people

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for that. What the hell.
It's just an incredible amount of freaking out

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over a bit of stagnation and a
bit of like a lack of growth,

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And like, man, how are
people going to react if times actually got

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hard? Right? Yes? And
I mean it might happen now because of

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what they're doing right now, But
I just don't know what anyone's up to.

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You know, Xboxes is letting Toys
for Bob just just go on its

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own become independent. I think that's
good news for Toys for Bob. The

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options, if the options were shut
down the studio or do this. This

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is way better. I just can't
understand how those were the only two options.

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They make good games, that's the
hardest part is to make good video

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games. They do that. Microsoft
should figure out the rest, like how

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to get people to care about them
and buy them. This is uh something

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we're a little bit of a trend
we're seeing in the last day or two.

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Toys for Bob did this and Saber
Saber thank you, Saber Interactive over

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an Embracer U bought themselves out for
five hundred million dollars. Investors involved that

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are helping them do this. But
yeah, so like they're not under Embracer

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anymore, right, individs good cheesy
Gearbox is gonna do something similar, which

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I mean Embrace does have Gearbox,
which seemed like the one shirt thing they

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had. What the heck is the
future there? Not? Well, Embracer,

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it's just it has to like do
a fire sale or or else face

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bankruptcy. Like they're just it's a
complete mess over there. Maybe they should

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face bankruptcy. Yeah, yeah,
exactly, Yeah, I mean the hopefully

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they could sell as many of these
studios or spin off as many of them

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as possible before that happens, so
that they don't go for like pennies on

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the dollar. Like what is because
like what is Microsoft thinking? Because Toys

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for Bob is saying like, yeah, we're maybe even gonna partner with Microsoft,

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So it sounds like they might just
make a spyrookeey for Microsoft anything.

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So again, no one knows it's
doing. Microsoft strategy forever was just bye

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bye bye bye bye, and now
it's like, uh, it's probably just

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better to like work with independent studios
to make it. I don't know,

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Mike, I do not get it
at all. Actually, I really would

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love someone to explain if someone involved
knows why this happened, why this is

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the best case scenario, or if
it's not the best case scenario, please

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reach out to me, get my
DMS. I'll give you a secure way

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to contact me. But I don't
I don't get it from Microsoft's perspective,

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Like you have game pass. Game
pass is something that can work similar to

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like the switch where it's once it's
in someone's house, Like you want to

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like have something for everybody. How
are family games not a priority? I

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feel like Phil Spencer has said it's
a priority. You have one a studio

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that may like one of the best
family game developers in the world, and

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it's not like, you know,
not even like hashtag pejorative there. It's

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just like, no, they make
great games that has a broad appeal.

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How are you not finding a way
to be like, we can use them

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to make something awesome that's very exciting. I mean we also like Benjo Kazui

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is the obvious one. We always
said, but like, whatever come up,

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you have a million options there.
Why are they spinning off to be

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independent? If this is best for
them, that's great. I just don't

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get it, just doesn't. I
just can't imagine it's best for Microsoft.

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Why you just slip away again?
I mean, I don't know. I

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was kind of positing this earlier on
my own. I just I just still

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can't believe that Microsoft and Sony have
just conceded the kind of kids gaming market

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to Nintendo and to mobile gaming.
And I get I get that kids just

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naturally gravitates like mobile and screens and
stuff. Doesn't mean you could just completely

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give that up. You kinda have
you kind of a kind of a space

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for that. Beside from just hoping
that Lego makes one game and be happy

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that you happen to buy Minecraft ten
years ago. It's gotta be something.

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It's gotta be more than just well, we made two kids games for PlayStations

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two years ago. That was great
of us, wasn't it. I don't

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know. Yeah. I mean someone
sent me the chart today of of people

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buying consoles, and it's like people
who are eighteen to twenty five are buying

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fewer consoles. And part of that's
going to be, you know, gen

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Z doesn't have like a ton of
money to spend on consoles. That's going

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to be part of that. The
other part of it is they don't want

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consoles as much. It's probably the
bigger part of it is they don't want

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consoles. But you're right, Why
do you just concede and just say,

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well, we're not even going to
try Because you're right, Like the pipeline

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of child fan to becoming a lifelong
fan starts young. And there was that

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story about that someone keeps sending to
us about how like the Disney Adult is

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a manufactured thing, and it's like
this is like actually an impressive thing.

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How they're able to pull this off
and get people to feel this way?

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How are these companies not recognizing that
this is something that they could have a

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hand in. Well there is one. It's the tenth though, and it

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works very well for them. Yeah, it's Yeah. You started this off

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by saying it's especially frustrating because it's
like, if we thought they knew what

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they were doing, some of this
could be not justified. But you can

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feel like at least we won't be
back here in a year. And as

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as it feels right now when we
actually look at this is like they could

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it could easily be worse in a
year because they have no idea what they're

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doing across the board. And yeah, it's frustrating. I'm trying to think

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there's like any other aspects to cover
of this. I mean, we talk

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about the why of it all the
time. You know, just things changed

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fast out coming out of COVID,
obviously, but the one thing about that

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Mike that always drives me crazy is
we yet it didn't actually decline all that

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much coming out of COVID, Like
the amount of money spent on games like

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and this is like Cirkana report stuff, It was like maybe down one percent.

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I think there was maybe a couple
months there where it was like year

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over here it's down three percent,
but I think overall, and I would

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have to look it up, but
like twenty two compared to twenty twenty one,

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and twenty three compared to twenty twenty
two. Well, I know,

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twenty twenty three compared to twenty twenty
two up four percent, and that like

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that does include like mobile and all
this other stuff, but like software sales

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for full game retail stuff was also
up a couple percentage points, so it's

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like things were still up. So
it's like, at the very least,

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a lot of the momentum that came
out of the pandemic. They kept that.

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The people that bought consoles during the
pandemic were like, I'll still buy

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a game here or there. The
problem is just that they didn't see the

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line keep going up the way it
did throughout the pandemic, which during the

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pandemic we were all saying, well, of course that's not gonna happen.

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This is going to come to an
end. How do these companies not know

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that? How? I mean,
I know they've got to make their bets,

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but can't you have some sense of
reality? I really that's the part

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of it that is so hard for
me to understand, Right, it's not

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that things are bad, just that
it's not growing as much as we want

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to. And like you just have
to think about that logically, Well,

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things can't grow forever, like maybe
sometimes they're going to slow down. Maybe

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even sometimes you're gonna have bad years
and you kind of have to be able

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to stay the course a little bit. You have to be able to build

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a war chest in those good years. Especially, you know, we're in

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a world the population growth isn't booming
like it used to. The economy is

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uncertain a lot of the time.
It's just not gonna be that insane growth

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that gaming had like in those early
years, especially when it was very new

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and was starting from zero or minuscule. Right, we are just so beyond

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like just the kind of natural insane
growth that was going to happen for the

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first thirty or forty years of this
industry even existing. We got to figure

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out what the new normal here is
going to be. Yeah, if more

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layoffs like this happen, it'll probably
be sporadic. It does seem like this

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is like, man, what companies
are left? I mean left even it's

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not like Nintendo's gonna do it,
not gonna right, I mean, yeah,

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I nemver say never, but it
doesn't seem like they would do it.

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And you know, there's there's like
Sega. It seems like they're not

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in a great position coming out of
last year. Yeah, Sega hasn't actually

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announced it yet. Huh, right, So let's I mean, I think

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they had some layoffs last year,
but I think there they seem like they

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might be getting on this action as
well. I hope not, or if

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they do, I hope it's not
too bad. But for the most part,

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like the biggest, biggest companies seem
like they're through this. I hope

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that means we can start to get
on the other side of this and get

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past it. But but who knows. Honestly, who knows. Remember,

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did like Ubisoft do the whole layoffs
thing. Yes, they did right in

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November, they did. They were
real early. Well, then they could

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get in on it again. It
feels like they could. Yeah, And

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it's you know, would be too
surprised, right exactly, Scan Bones and

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a bunch of other misfires. It
isn't even like a funny joke like Suicide

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Squad when it came out, It's
gone both he was the only one talk

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about it. Yeah, it is
continues to be a rough thing where it's

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the game themselves are so good and
I'm enjoying so many of them right now.

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We talk about several times about how
we could put together top ten list.

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I just I go from one game
that I love to the next game

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that I love, and it's like, you know, since Boldlatro even I'm

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onto like two three other games now
that I'm like, I just love playing

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these games and knowing that there's this
is due to an immense amount of talent

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that has been brought up over the
through the industry, over years and years,

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people mentoring each other, a lot
of ingrained talent from people who have

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invested a lot of themselves and invested
a lot of themselves into each other.

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And then to have some idiot in
a boardroom rip it apart because they're worried

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about looking bad to an investor and
the stock price might go down for one

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quarter. It really makes me question
what the fuck we're doing here. So

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I hope we get past it all
right, Yeah, any other thoughts about

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this? If not, we can
maybe move on to some super chats.

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Now, let's move on to some
super chats. All right, we'll do

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that right after this quick break.
Thanks for sticking with us, everybody,

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and we're back. Mike. We
have some super chats. Go ahead and

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get into those for me right now. Please, Absolutely, we got quite

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a few in here. Thank you
so much, everybody. Mo dough Mufty

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says, Hi, Jeff and Mike. When will Dragon H four be shown

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and released? Yeah? I mean
I expected it'll probably pop up this summer.

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I don't know when it will be
shown. It's the real answer.

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Let's get that out here. I
don't know when it will be shown.

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I assume it'll be shown sometime this
summer. Could happen in anytime, though

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it will be released this year last
I heard that is, and they're pretty

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confident about that. Doesn't mean it's
a guarantee. Could slip, but right

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now, internally they expect to release
it later this year, which is why

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I took it in Fantasy Critic.
All right, everyone, I apologize Shagaro

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Memo's kind of wouding here tonight.
Oh, let's get on it all right,

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here we go. Bought a PS
five to play foun Fantasy seven and

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see those honkers. That's the idea
of Sugar Mode. Of saying honkers is

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very funny to me, that says, does this game have a one handed

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shaggy? You gotta class it up
a little bit. Whit Moto, You're

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a come on, you're a family
man. You can do better than that

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shake. Come on. Oh grug
says I said, I'd give Mike sent

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money if he beat Mortal Comet Mythologies
and bot God, he broke that game

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in half. Also, remember how
Dan mate you felt when he's saying he's

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lost to Superman sixty four. You
could tell him where to go after about

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an hour of working. Oh broug, thank you so much, very generous,

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Really do Panke's not gonna be able
to help himself. He's going to

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have to help. That's just that
is my curses, because it's frustrating to

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me to watch him like struggle with
Wayte. That took me like it is

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obvious what he should do, and
it'll drive me. It's a like you

407
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,079
so not even struggling at our Zett
just kind of like picking a second trying

408
00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:06,440
to help. So I'm like,
thank you, Mike, absolutely, I

409
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,880
get it, Like yeah, I
know that feeling too, absolutely, especially

410
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,039
if like you already played it so
the Marvelous Breadfish says the only layoff this

411
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:18,079
industry needs is for Jeff to lay
off the Shimmacgammi tense fans on Twitter.

412
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,200
What the hell, man, haven't
we suffered enough? What have you been

413
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,880
doing to the s MT fans?
Jeff, I don't remember did something,

414
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:30,759
but I don't remember. For me
it was Tuesday. Uh pookey egg for

415
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:34,079
superstants, say Shall said Jeff and
Mike I started writing reviews again because of

416
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:40,440
this podcast. So here's five legit
Australian dollar dues to entice them to packs

417
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:45,599
Australia. I'd love to go to
Australia. Me too. Pas Australia a

418
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,599
good reason to make that happen.
That would be incredible. I've never been,

419
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,119
I never I've never been the Southern
Hemisphere. Actually it was just strange.

420
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,440
You know, where would I go? Right? No? Good country?

421
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:03,960
Home there? You got my vote
there? Wow? Fuck you,

422
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:11,599
Conna was says Fuck the shareholders.
Brian Corla says Tinfoil hat are companies biding

423
00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:15,960
their time until AI is a viable
tool for dev or human costs at a

424
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,759
minimum, with equal or more profit
in the same timeframe. There are two

425
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,680
like the people in charge. While
they're like idiots when it comes to creativity

426
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:29,200
and having a vision, they know
that AI is mostly not going to be

427
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,000
able to do the things that people
are promising. They'll be able to do

428
00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:37,240
some stuff, absolutely, but you
are going to need an artist controlling it

429
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:40,680
to get the results you want if
you want to compete with other companies that

430
00:28:40,759 --> 00:28:42,480
have the same tools as you and
are going to be able to like,

431
00:28:44,039 --> 00:28:47,079
you have to stand out in this
industry. So you know, like there

432
00:28:47,119 --> 00:28:48,480
was a thing that Unreal Engine did
where it's like you press the button and

433
00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,680
you get a city, and it's
like, oh my god, now everyone's

434
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,400
gonna have an open world city.
And so and all the people that are

435
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,119
employed to make these open world cities, they're going to be out of a

436
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,400
job. It's like no, no, no, they were just press that

437
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,799
button and they would shift all those
people to adding details and interiors to all

438
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,319
these buildings so they can stand out
from the crowd. It's an arms race,

439
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,240
and so no, these companies know
that they can't get away with that,

440
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,319
and they so, yeah, it's
not about that. Mc goombo.

441
00:29:15,359 --> 00:29:18,839
The first super sight here says fun
Fact and Superman sixty four, the only

442
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,240
way to get to the last level
and see credits is by playing on Superman

443
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,680
difficulty. Make him suffer. Well, that's not even suffering if that's the

444
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,839
only way to write, that's just
the credits in the final level. Yeah,

445
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,519
let's make sure that we remember this
that he has to play on Superman

446
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:41,000
difficulty so much that one And it
sounds like just the rules of Blake Club

447
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,480
too, Like that's like now he's
going to say, he's gonna say that

448
00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,440
the rule is you play whatever difficulty
it's set to normally. I don't know

449
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,400
if it's Superman different. Yeah,
but but but if it's not, If

450
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,720
by playing that way you don't beat
it, then you got to play it

451
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,160
until you beat it. You gotta
see credits. Yep. He's gonna be

452
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,319
like, well, if he didn't
beat Quantchi and we'll be like, that's

453
00:29:57,359 --> 00:30:00,359
not how you're supposed to beat the
game, I sell credits And also that

454
00:30:00,359 --> 00:30:03,960
won't matter. He'll still come up
with something. But still, well,

455
00:30:03,079 --> 00:30:06,200
yeah, you will be right vote
him. So what can you do?

456
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,200
Yeah, you think you're gonna win
an argument with I know, we won't,

457
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,440
I know, but we can.
We have democracy on our side.

458
00:30:11,519 --> 00:30:17,400
All right, Zoomier says he is
dead to me, UBI is revived to

459
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:22,599
me, Well, let's see how
long Ubi here? Uh? Game Fire

460
00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:26,559
Kerberder says, just to show support
to you guys, thank you so much,

461
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,400
game Fire, Thank you for Game
Fire. Appreciate it. Power Mad

462
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,640
your cases will mentally prime for when
gave it the year due to note competition,

463
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:36,319
there's a lot of competition. Yeah, yeah, I was wondering,

464
00:30:36,319 --> 00:30:41,480
what do you think Final Fantasy seven
reapers like goaty chances are gonna be assuming

465
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:45,000
like the rest of the playfields normal, because I mean, for for again,

466
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:47,240
for a game that has a ninety
two am redit critic, you do

467
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:52,000
hear a lot of like criticism,
all right, Yeah, I mean you,

468
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,240
and I know you say that.
I think you're especially sensitive to it

469
00:30:56,279 --> 00:31:00,240
because you are like so aware of
everything about that game, and so would

470
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:06,440
people like from like my position,
it feels like it's entirely glowing. And

471
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:08,440
yeah, I see some people saying
some things and then I go look at

472
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:11,640
like, well, let's go see
what like the shitty like low review score

473
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,839
guy is gonna say, And it's
like, no, there is none of

474
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,079
that. Everyone's giving an eighty at
the lowest. It feels like it's got

475
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:21,759
good a good shot of getting there. That's how you're right. I do

476
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,720
feel good. Ali Miracle says,
here's a fiver for the capitalism. Thank

477
00:31:26,759 --> 00:31:30,119
you, Ali Miracle Burrito says,
Hey, my congratulations on completing Mortal Kombat

478
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,759
Mythologies. I know you're gonna say
it's all in good fun. But when

479
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,799
Dan starts as Blake Gig, I
hope he suffers just a little as a

480
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,119
treat wall Oh, he'll suffer.
Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,

481
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,480
the turnabout's fair play. Of course
he's gonna suffer. You know. I

482
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:45,839
always like, I always thought,
man, it'd be kind of just need

483
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,400
to say I beat Mortal Kombat Mythologies. And there's like a part of me

484
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,680
that's like, yeah, I was
watching, I was like kind of walking

485
00:31:51,759 --> 00:31:55,039
around yesterday after beating it, like
my shit in stick is there a part

486
00:31:55,119 --> 00:32:01,359
of me that's like feels nothing because
that game did break you several times.

487
00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:06,279
It was a lot worse than I
was expecting. Yeah. Oh, Grugg

488
00:32:06,359 --> 00:32:09,200
says Mike is still a boomer,
Thank you, Grug. Derek, Mike,

489
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:14,079
any feelings about the Mega Man stuff
in Street Fighter six? I didn't

490
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,680
see this actually, uh, what
do we get in megas got now as

491
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720
the show was starting, it's the
usual stuff. You get a classic Mega

492
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,839
Man costume for your avatar, you
get an avatar post that's Mega Man's jump.

493
00:32:27,119 --> 00:32:29,880
Really, the only interesting things that
they're adding Mega Man Power Battle is

494
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,759
the rotating arcade game, which is
that's kind of cute. Oh that's pretty

495
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:35,839
neat. I like yeah. Otherwise
it's like the usual stuff, just themes

496
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,720
around Mega Man. What I'm always
just glad? Yes, sorry, all

497
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:42,039
right, yes cool? But like
in Street Fighter five, we got like

498
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,720
really nice, really detailed schemes for
like the actual characters. This is like,

499
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:52,880
yeah, why didn't you just did
that work for real? Like what

500
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:58,079
are you doing? I'm sorry,
I'm just like with the thtreet Fighter six

501
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,200
content, this has been happening and
I'm being like weird, how because like

502
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:06,000
I wish there were more stuff you
keel like, are they going to really

503
00:33:06,039 --> 00:33:09,880
do just one set of new with
skins for like a year or like what's

504
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,759
going on? Like I don't know, this is a fighting past too,

505
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,759
do I need to get this fighting
pass? And I don't know. By

506
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:21,240
going back to Street I did finally
so down a little bit on tech and

507
00:33:21,359 --> 00:33:23,559
maybe I don't know. I don't
know. I'm glad there's something. Look,

508
00:33:23,599 --> 00:33:28,000
any any recognition of Megan Man is
going to make me feel good no

509
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,880
matter how. And in the Mega
Man T shirt, asking am I gonna

510
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:37,319
buy this Mega Man? That's a
good point. Eddie's Alex says, why

511
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240
is it always primal Rage? Just
curious? Oh yeah, you got primal

512
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:44,319
Rage playing again. Now it's Prince
of Persia this time. I actually just

513
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,920
changed it. I saw that super
chat. Uh it should I just like

514
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:51,279
have that loaded on my mister,
and I hadn't turned it off in a

515
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:54,799
couple of days. There was says
surprise, Mike hasn't played Penny Breakaway yet.

516
00:33:54,839 --> 00:33:58,359
It's basically two D. Sonic gave
in three D but not actually three

517
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240
song That makes sense too many though
I didn't realize it was a little buggy.

518
00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:05,359
I did play and I kind of
played a preview capacity and really liked

519
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360
it. Although people are saying it's
buggy, maybe I'll wait a little bit.

520
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,519
I should have played it today when
I was streaming, I didn't know

521
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:14,960
what the place I just played Suicide
Squad. Uh. You know a ton

522
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,719
of people who want to watch people
still play Suicide Squad, but I have

523
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,880
fun. I they're like that game
like hit like really low numbers on Steam.

524
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:23,840
I wonder if it's going to have
any bouts back here or there.

525
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,000
I hope it does. I mean
I was just like when I went to

526
00:34:27,079 --> 00:34:30,119
stream it, it was like the
total viewers for the game. That's that,

527
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,920
like you know, OBS showed me
was kind of dire. It's it

528
00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,079
is. It is weird. At
first, I was like, is this

529
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,440
what's scaring off? Like EA about
licenses, but it's not like I don't

530
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,320
know, Warner Bers didn't have to
pay for that license. They're Warner Brothers.

531
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,639
Yeah, credit is bad for them, but man, yeah, I

532
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:52,840
mean Iron Man and Black Panther will
do better than that. So it is

533
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:57,719
just insane just how money, like
how much of that like live service stuff

534
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,280
bullshit is in there just constantly,
like all this like mild RPG stuff that

535
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,320
barely even makes a difference. Like
every two seconds it is teaching you about

536
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,440
like some new stat and there's like
five lines of texts explaining the stat and

537
00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:15,039
you know it's just this minuscule difference. They won't even realize if they made

538
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:19,000
a fun shooting game I wish it
was just kind of an open world like

539
00:35:19,559 --> 00:35:22,559
superhero shooting game. That would have
been fun. But it's just it is

540
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,599
just so dog piled by the bullshit. It's I just don't know what they

541
00:35:27,639 --> 00:35:32,719
were thinking. Yeah, I mean
they get blinded by the infinite growth thing.

542
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,039
I mean, I know it's the
same story everybody, but right,

543
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:37,920
I guess they're like, well,
this is this is stuff that will make

544
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,960
money if we have if ye know, a good game like an Arkham game

545
00:35:42,039 --> 00:35:45,880
made some money, but imagine if
people played it forever. Well imagine if

546
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,920
people don't play it for more than
ten minutes. Yeah, yeah, you

547
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:53,199
nailed it. That's what happened.
That's it for the super chats for now.

548
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,119
Thank you so much everybody. If
you send more, we will read

549
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:59,199
them before the end of the show. Thank you so much. Thank you.

550
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,719
Mike. All Right, we're gonna
take another quick break. When we

551
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,800
come back, we are going to
get set up for our big discussion of

552
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,239
the night, which is the best
games of twenty sixteen. We've been going

553
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,559
year by year. We're gonna keep
going into twenty sixteen. Right after this

554
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,159
and we're back. And before we
get in, we were in the break,

555
00:36:16,199 --> 00:36:21,840
we were talking, Hey, what
is that team of a respond that's

556
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,079
making that are they? Are they
just gonna be able to turn that into

557
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,440
something else. Ramy Chat says,
hey, that team's still together. So

558
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,679
game was canceled, the team was
not. I mean I helped the game.

559
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,360
That's good to hear. I like, I don't know why the game

560
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,760
wouldn't just be air quotes canceled.
Just make it a Bounty hundred game in

561
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,239
your Titan Phone universe. If that's
what you're worried about. That don't get

562
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,000
better in some ways? Like but
if papone thought this game was good and

563
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:46,800
you did all this work on it, it just seems insane to me,

564
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,440
Like they're so worried about money.
How are they not worried about sunk costs?

565
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,119
How come that never matters? Yep, it's right now. Why is

566
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:57,800
that the one fallacy? Then it
probably shows up in other ways. But

567
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,679
yeah, all right, let's see
here, let's take a look. We

568
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,360
are going to do the best Games
of twenty sixteen. That's where we're at.

569
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,159
What we are going to get into
that right now. What we do

570
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,880
here is me and Mike we throw
out some games. We take some recommendations

571
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,639
from podcast producers who support the show, and then we make a top five

572
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:19,320
list. Me and Mike. We
have the final arbiters of this list.

573
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:22,119
Mike, where do you want to
start? For the year twenty sixteen.

574
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,480
I can't believe this game is actually
this old. This kind of shocked me

575
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,679
seeing it. But man, I
played a lot of Overwatch in twenty sixteen

576
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:35,159
when that game was new and in
a lot of ways unrefined. It maybe

577
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,760
hit better than it ever did.
Again, I just remember even that open

578
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,000
beta. I was actually housing for
my brother and I got on Lie my

579
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,599
one friend just playing that beta in
I think we played for like eight hours

580
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:52,480
straight, and that time flew by
like crazy. It was just so cool

581
00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:57,480
seeing a team based shooter like this. And you know, I said before,

582
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,519
I kind of grew up on people
just classic seeing that taken in this

583
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:06,960
direction with these incredibly fun, vibrant
characters. Remember just how much everyone was

584
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,559
impressed by the reload animations. We
kind of forget that now, but that

585
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,000
stuff was awesome. There was vibrant, is the way to put it.

586
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:19,199
That was such a vibrant, just
fun video game for such a long time.

587
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,239
It's like I kind of like,
when I think about Overwatch now,

588
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,360
I kind of get bummed out because
it eventually, of course, it eventually

589
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,400
be gained something I didn't want to
play anymore. I've thought I shouldn't expect

590
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:34,519
to play everything forever, but for
a long time, Overwatch was the game

591
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:37,840
I was thinking about constantly. Yeah, I mean I feel the same.

592
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:44,320
I wasn't quite as Overwatch pilled as
you were, but I played a ton

593
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,280
of it. I remember I got
a big, fat like laptop with a

594
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,400
huge GPU in it for review and
I would just sit on the couch and

595
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,320
watch TV with Steph and I would
have like a little mouse kind of off

596
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,800
to the side on the couch that
would work pretty well, and I would

597
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,199
just play NonStop while we were just
watching stuff because I was just playing it

598
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,639
all the time. The game,
it just feel it just did everything right

599
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,159
to like make something that was entertaining
that you come back to and play for

600
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:14,079
what at the time felt like forever. And that was something that they do

601
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,320
they captured immediately and it was just
so well polished right out of the gate.

602
00:39:19,199 --> 00:39:21,760
For me, this this year is
probably going to be Titan Fall two.

603
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:27,119
Titan Fall two is, yes,
that is twenty sixteen, and it

604
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,880
is a magical game. I really
like the multiplayer in titan Fall two.

605
00:39:32,039 --> 00:39:36,000
Geh. There's parts of titan Fall
one's multiplayer I like a little bit better,

606
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,400
but I had a ton of fun
with titan Fall two's multiplayer. But

607
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:42,760
it has what I still think is
probably my favorite shooter campaign of all time

608
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,800
in terms of just the amount of
variety. How every level is just like,

609
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:52,039
here is four new ideas, and
each idea is going to evolve in

610
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,719
to some other idea, and here's
how these ideas intersect, and you're going

611
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,400
to feel the entire time, You're
going to feel awesome. And if you

612
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,480
want to like really go out these
enemies and use all of your abilities,

613
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:06,480
you're actually gonna feel extremely awesome.
You're gonna probably feel cooler in this game

614
00:40:06,519 --> 00:40:10,679
than you've ever felt before. And
they just encourage that with their game design

615
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,320
and the way the world looks,
and the characters actually are really really well

616
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,280
done. B D I think is
his name, the robot I can never

617
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:23,920
remember the name, Yes, BD, that, yes, exactly, and

618
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,400
he throws you across the chasm and
these it's just really awesome moments that punctuate

619
00:40:29,519 --> 00:40:34,119
this awesome action. It's an incredible
game that I adore and I'm pretty sure

620
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:36,320
was my game of the year that
year. Probably would still be my game

621
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,039
of the Year for twenty sixteen.
Yeah, I mean, it was certainly

622
00:40:38,079 --> 00:40:43,840
at least my favorite single player shooter
campaign since Half Life two, which is

623
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,639
like two thousand and four, just
an insane amount of time. That gamepaign

624
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:51,719
is thank you. Yes, yes, that's why I can't remember the names,

625
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,840
because I can play BD one and
BT different different robots and droids fit

626
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,320
yep, and yeah, you know
what you're right. Like when we played

627
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:05,280
Type two's multiplayer not that long ago, it was still actually so much funny

628
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,679
and it was almost kind of infury, like, O, why can't I

629
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,519
just be playing this or at least
some new version of this again? It's

630
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:15,639
been what eight years? Yeah,
that's that's wild. I mean, I'm

631
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,880
interested to see where you go next
for the next game, Mike count I

632
00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:22,320
you know, I like Uncharted.
I think on Chia four is absolutely one

633
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,280
of the best in the franchise,
And it seems like an insane thing to

634
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,760
say, but I always say I
feel like a Tria four is somehow a

635
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,760
little underrated. I agree that was
a very fun video game. It actually

636
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,719
even had a pretty good multiplayer mode. You know, you had that grappling

637
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:43,239
hook mechandic like not grappling hook like
Zoto, like actually throwing and swinging.

638
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,599
There's a lot of swinging involved,
and it was fun in the single player

639
00:41:45,679 --> 00:41:50,239
game. And I always liked that
kind of uncharted method in there where it's

640
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,840
like fast paced stealth until you get
caught, Like you're probably not gonna stealf

641
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,079
your whole way. It's like you
do the best you can for a little

642
00:41:57,079 --> 00:41:59,320
bit of stelf until you get caught, and then it turns into this kind

643
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,880
of frantic run and gun cover based
firefight. There were some really cool set

644
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,800
pieces here, and there's great vehicle
ones, like there's that there's that one

645
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,239
section where you are just kind of
on a boat, so you're going to

646
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:13,880
different islands because they have like this
pirate stuff. It really does feel like

647
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,119
this classic pirate treasure hunt in a
really fun way, very pretty game.

648
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,440
Maybe I have to look at it
again, but in my mind, I

649
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,039
don't think we really made games that
look a lot better, if at all,

650
00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:29,480
the uncharted for so Chatter four really
sticks out to me as one of

651
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:31,920
the best in that franchise. Someone
who doesn't really care for Uncharted, and

652
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:37,119
I love Uncharted for it was really
good. I think a big part of

653
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,360
it, like you said, was
the pirate stuff. It felt goonies like

654
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,599
to me, I'm a huge Goonies
dude, and this game was felt like

655
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,440
it was nailing similar tones, which
I always appreciate. I thought it was,

656
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:52,079
you know, it's lighthearted, but
it still has some strong character stuff

657
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,880
that happens that connects these these characters
on their journey, and I thought it

658
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,960
was like doesn't usually get in its
own way, Like you are going to

659
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,599
explore this area and we're but while
you're exploring, we're going to make sure

660
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:07,440
that that exploring is going to lead
to the next fun thing. I think

661
00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:12,519
at this time, is this the
year that Quantum Break came out. I

662
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,320
think I was like playing Quantum Break
like right after this, and I remember

663
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,920
getting so I've got very frustrated by
Quantum Break. So I'm like, I'm

664
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,199
playing on Chartered four and it never
is going to be in a situation where

665
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,440
like we're going to have you do
something mundane or like kind of wasting your

666
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,760
time. And I go to play
on quantum break. It's like your next

667
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:34,480
mission objective is leave this building.
It's like, what what come on,

668
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:37,360
guys? What really? And so
like I try to like really appreciate it

669
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,800
on Charter before at the time,
where it's like it is this world that

670
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,119
you're living in and it feels like
real spaces, but it's still designed like

671
00:43:45,199 --> 00:43:50,599
a video game that cares about you
having the entertaining time, and it was

672
00:43:50,679 --> 00:43:52,639
kind of exquisitely designed for the time. And I think I bet if I

673
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:57,400
went back to this today, I
would still really enjoy it. Yeah,

674
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,880
I mean there's like some I have, like some small of plaints, Like

675
00:44:00,559 --> 00:44:05,199
there's definitely a bit of that the
story getting like a little away from them

676
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,360
in terms of scale and scope and
pushing the it's the character drama a bit

677
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:14,960
much like Nathan and Lena are yeh
on the outside again and it's like just

678
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:17,519
because like Nathan won't be honest with
her again, which is a lesson he

679
00:44:17,639 --> 00:44:22,039
learned in like three other games at
that point. But so otherwise mostly just

680
00:44:22,199 --> 00:44:28,400
a game that I love, love, Love of Love. Doom twenty sixteen

681
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:35,239
is really good. Yes, this
is a I remember kind of you and

682
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,360
I both being skeptical of this game. I remember myself being like that trailer

683
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:43,119
was pretty violent. I don't know
if we need that in video games anymore,

684
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,559
and then playing and being like,
what the fuck was I talking about?

685
00:44:46,639 --> 00:44:50,960
This? Rule? That is I
learned a lesson that I've learned from

686
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,760
that have since always enacted on,
which is, you can't judge violence in

687
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:58,039
games until you have the context of
actually playing it. And Doom taught me

688
00:44:58,119 --> 00:45:00,440
that because once you're playing it,
you're like, oh, I get it.

689
00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:04,719
This is like almost comedic. This
is almost like can you believe this

690
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480
character even exists and is ripping these
demons apart? And you run into a

691
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:12,360
room as the Doom Slayer and all
these demons are freaking out because he's here

692
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,039
and he's gonna kill them, and
that is awesome and it makes you feel

693
00:45:15,079 --> 00:45:19,239
that in everything you do. It's
such a good game. God, I

694
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,719
love Doom twenty sixteen, right,
I love that Doom of all things is

695
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:27,119
what finally revitalized at PS a little
bit when it STARNI gets stale. Honestly

696
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:30,719
saw some great games scar like Typho, but like cover base shooting had gotten

697
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,760
out of hand, right, This
this was like originally gonna be like a

698
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,400
call of duty like Doom or something
like that. Yeah, and here the

699
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:39,840
design a shooter that's like, no, you are running and you are being

700
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,679
aggressive, or else you are dead. And they made it work so well,

701
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,519
and they had these maps that were
a ton of fun to explore.

702
00:45:47,679 --> 00:45:53,599
That music obviously was incredible, just
absolutely knocked it out of the park way

703
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:59,119
more than I way more exciting or
relevant than I thought Doom could possibly be.

704
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:05,440
Past like that original nineties boon for
the series. So good. Yeah,

705
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,559
you got a couple more you want
to drop before we go to the

706
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:09,400
podcast. I feel a little bad
taking this one from you, Jeff,

707
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:16,039
but you had your chance. Hit
Man. Hell yeah, let's go many

708
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:20,239
now now. My top three from
that year are definitely on the list.

709
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,719
So hit Man the first one started, and this was when it was like

710
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,719
gonna be just an episodic thing.
The intro pack and a few of the

711
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,320
episodes started in twenty sixteen. I
was a little late to this, Jeff,

712
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,840
because I just like my mind's like, I don't care about Hitman.

713
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,199
I don't know. I played demo
for some three sixty game ons and it

714
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,880
didn't feel like mettle here solid,
so I don't like it. Then when

715
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:45,000
I went back and played this,
it is it is so special. It

716
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:50,880
is just doing things that other games
aren't doing it right. It has that

717
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,920
kind of Groundhog's Day effect of just
learning these It works both ways. So

718
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,039
it does work that first time you're
going in and it is almost kind of

719
00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:01,119
like this escape robe with all these
different those all these moving parts. You're

720
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:05,880
kind of like navigating it the best
that you can. But then when you

721
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:09,000
learn all the moving parts and you
know when those parts are going to move

722
00:47:09,079 --> 00:47:13,960
and where they're moving to and how
you can manipulate them in all the different

723
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:20,880
ways you can approach and complete these
different missions, it's just wonderful. Yes,

724
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:27,400
it is uh like going in there, like you said, and push,

725
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:30,280
like pushing into something, poking and
prodding at something, and then seeing

726
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,400
like the cascading effect that that has
that always sets off like the creative juices

727
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,440
of like, okay, that works, so I can do that and if

728
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:43,920
in that moment that first run,
you might try it, and a lot

729
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,840
of times it will lead you down
the path of you know, of one

730
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,199
of the like highlight emissions. It's
like, no, we're going to guide

731
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:51,199
you to that, and you can
do it that way for sure, but

732
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,480
sometimes you will just try something you
know offhand, and if it works,

733
00:47:53,519 --> 00:47:57,159
it's fantastic. But if it doesn't
work, usually it ends in a way

734
00:47:57,199 --> 00:48:00,880
that is very funny, that is
a story, and then that builds on

735
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,840
your knowledge base when you go to
replay it, you know, twenty times

736
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,800
and you get the mastery level for
it, and they have a great system

737
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,320
of unlocking things that you could start
the mission with by playing it over and

738
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,159
over again, so that really makes
it rewarding to do so. And it

739
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:22,400
just have them like build a single
player game that feels informed by live service

740
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:24,039
games, and you know, eventually, like obviously it is like a live

741
00:48:24,119 --> 00:48:29,599
service game in many ways where they
have these these targets that you can go

742
00:48:29,679 --> 00:48:31,679
after that only exist for like three
days and if you if you screw it

743
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,800
up or you get caught or you
get killed, you can never try it

744
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,840
again. And it's like a really
cool idea, and they have a lot

745
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,119
of different like plays on different things
like that kind of works similar to that.

746
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,440
It's like it works great as the
live service give even in the single

747
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,000
player campaign, like when you're doing
that stuff, it's like they know,

748
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,039
some people are going to just throw
themselves into this and that's maybe the best

749
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,760
way to experience it. So they
really built it around that thinking, and

750
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:57,320
it really shows it comes through in
a way that it doesn't hasn't really popped

751
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,639
up in many other single player games. That's like that's special word. It

752
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,800
just seems so apart from what everyone
else is doing, which was like when

753
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
Squirt Nicks is like, well goodbye
Io Interactive, I was flabbergasted, like,

754
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,559
did you guys not know what you
have? How do you not know

755
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:14,360
what you have? Good? Is
so hard? Like that's the hardest part.

756
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:19,159
Yep, you got to figure out
the rest that point. Yep.

757
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:24,440
All right, Jeff, do you
have one? I'm looking I got one

758
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:28,559
for you. Oh yeah, sure, Yeah, there's a lot of Jeff

759
00:49:28,599 --> 00:49:31,360
games this year. Yes, because
The Witness also came out. Ye okay,

760
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:34,480
I was going to get to The
Witness eventually, yes, hell,

761
00:49:34,599 --> 00:49:37,960
yes, all right, the Witness
the creator. But the game is pretty

762
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,840
good. Yeah, it's fine.
Jeff likes The Witness and and I like

763
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,280
Braid a lot, like what are
we gonna do? Exactly? I fight

764
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,039
with johna blow on Twitter. I
used to and like he was on Twitter

765
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:52,000
or whatever. I fought with a
bunch of times. We know what it

766
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:57,480
is. Uh. The witness is
really good though. It is a that

767
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:01,960
line drawing puzzle thing but blown out
to like the nth degree, and then

768
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:12,239
it is wrapped in this really interesting
storytelling technique of there are like statues,

769
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:15,719
and there are these videos you could
find, and there are these audio logs,

770
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:21,199
and if you just like keep your
ear open as you're like experiencing these

771
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,599
things and you step back and you
try to like find a through line,

772
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:28,760
there's a lot of interesting stuff happening, Like the storytelling that's happening with that

773
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,480
that kind of does relate to how
people solve things and think about things.

774
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:37,880
And then the terms of the line
puzzles themselves are actually very very good,

775
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:43,760
And I mean I don't have a
gaming moment where I felt more exaltation than

776
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,559
when I cleared both the challenge of
like that time challenge that was procedurally generated,

777
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:51,639
so it was different every time,
so you couldn't just learn it.

778
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,760
You had to just get good at
the mechanics of solving the puzzles, and

779
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,400
you had to do it in a
very short amount of time. Beating that

780
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,239
was very thrilling and then solve even
one of the first people in the world

781
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,639
to solve the boat the boat door
puzzle. That's like you don't even know

782
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:06,960
where to begin with this, and
it's like, uh, I had no

783
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:08,440
chance on that. Yeah, it
was like I was just like in the

784
00:51:08,559 --> 00:51:12,480
zone with it where it's like I
just came from the area where like it

785
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:15,440
has the most fundamental thing you need
to know about this. But I'm also

786
00:51:15,559 --> 00:51:17,519
like hearing these creaks and here,
and I think that's what I'm supposed to

787
00:51:17,519 --> 00:51:21,000
be, how I'm supposed to solve
it and taking that stuff and put it

788
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,039
in a premiere pro and like looking
at the wavelengths and stuff, and it's

789
00:51:23,079 --> 00:51:27,039
like, I don't know, having
that moment is going to be a very

790
00:51:27,079 --> 00:51:30,079
singular thing, but for me it
was really special. So yeah, the

791
00:51:30,119 --> 00:51:31,920
Witness is definitely something I would consider
for this year. And the Witness is

792
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,480
great. My big my big problem
with it really is is that I wasn't

793
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,480
good enough. That was really my
big issue with it. Right, It's

794
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:44,119
exactly my kind of puzzle games.
So yes, it's very good. I

795
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:46,440
get it. I would also throw
fire Watch out there, at least for

796
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:53,599
consideration. I think Firewatch is a
It's one that I think it's misunderstood a

797
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:58,360
little bit because it sets itself up
and maybe maybe this is a little bit

798
00:51:58,519 --> 00:52:01,960
to their fault. It sets itself
up as this mystery, as this sci

799
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,840
fi fantasy mystery that's happening, and
a lot of that stuff's actually implied by

800
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:13,320
the story and it's not necessarily set
out loud, although a couple of characters

801
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,559
do like say that stuff, but
they're saying a lot of things, so

802
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:17,440
there are in a lot of conversations
and that's just one of them. But

803
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:22,760
as players, we glom onto that
that's what's happening here because it's a video

804
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,199
game. We're playing a video game, so all that stuff, that's the

805
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,920
mystical elements, that's what we should
be paying attention to. And you get

806
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,199
to the end of the game,
and I won't spoil exactly because I think

807
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:35,559
people should still go and experience it, but I've never played it. You

808
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,400
find out that that's not what was
happening at all at all, and it

809
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,400
was the human beings that mattered the
whole time. And I remember being a

810
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,199
gut punch for me and being really
impressive in the game, was able to

811
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,159
pull that off and realizing that that
was the themes that we ignore the human

812
00:52:50,199 --> 00:52:52,920
beings and instead of focus on all
these things that don't actually matter because they're

813
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:58,639
more interesting in the first place.
And it's just a really well told story

814
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,320
and it tells it through this these
through its mechanics, and really I think

815
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,039
it's just a cool looking game,
and it's cool idea of you being alone

816
00:53:05,079 --> 00:53:07,239
in the woods, is this fire
watch person watching for fires up in this

817
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,320
tower. I just liked the idea
of the setting and all that stuff.

818
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:16,760
It's it's a well done game.
Stardo Valley came out and Try sixteen and

819
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:21,440
that just feels like a good relevant
game. Still like this game obviously just

820
00:53:21,519 --> 00:53:24,519
kind of kept getting better with time. But like Started Valley was kind of

821
00:53:24,679 --> 00:53:30,760
like the last farm simulator game you'll
ever need. It just completely lapped,

822
00:53:30,159 --> 00:53:35,079
you know, the franchises that had
been doing this forever, obviously taking a

823
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,960
ton of inspiration from those, but
just putting it in a much more attractive

824
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:45,440
and fun package, streamlined in smart
ways and elaborated in other correct ways.

825
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,519
Started Voye was just a game that
once I started playing it, it was

826
00:53:47,639 --> 00:53:52,239
so easy to just keep playing it
and keep playing it and keep playing it.

827
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,360
I you know, stopped myself from
starting it up again, like I

828
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,239
don't have because I know if I
do that, it's gonna be like an

829
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,440
other seventy hours. Just dumped into
that game because it is so much fun.

830
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:07,760
Muted anything else or should we get
to the podcast producers. I have

831
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:13,159
a couples other ones I want to
mention real quick, go ahead, sort

832
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,480
vain. Planet Coaster is fantastic.
It's also kind of like the last Thing

833
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:21,280
Park game I almost ever really need
that. You can just do a tone

834
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,719
with it. It's kind of the
successor to those Planet those Rocers of Ticcoon

835
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,840
games that I loved growing up.
I need to go back and actually play

836
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,480
more Planet Coaster. It is just
a ton of fun. World of Warcraft

837
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:37,360
actually got It's one of its best
expansions ever this year with Legion. Just

838
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,960
really smart. The way that they
kind of really focus it on the identity

839
00:54:42,039 --> 00:54:45,960
of what class you're playing as in. Each class had their own little class

840
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,400
hall it was called. It really
kind of made being like in that class

841
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,079
it felt more important than being in
your faction, which never really mattered all

842
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,800
that much to me. There's just
a lot of good decisions in Legion.

843
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,239
It sort of felt like the finale
of the story that they had been telling

844
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,800
since Warcraft three. So I think
that's still a lot of people's favorite expansion.

845
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,840
It's very good stuff. Uh,
anything else you want to bring up

846
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:13,119
before, I think that's look at
the podcast producers. Now, all right,

847
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,039
let's start here with Adam Jus,
who says Dark Souls three again.

848
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,599
Apologies as always, me and Mike
just never got into Dark Souls all that

849
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,440
much. I mean, I always
want to solve that. I was like,

850
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:27,079
oh, this year's gonna be there. I play Mother. I would

851
00:55:27,119 --> 00:55:30,880
love to also play all the Dark
Souls games. I would probably just start

852
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,519
with I don't do it in a
way like we play through them together in

853
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:37,119
some weird way. I know they're
not like co op games per se,

854
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:38,320
because yeah, I mean I haven't
played any of these. I know.

855
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,440
I know like two is the one
that gets a little bit of flat and

856
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,960
that some people defend it. But
one of three are pretty universally just loved.

857
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,119
I understand, and of course I
want to I want to play them

858
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:52,400
huge secro olfan though, everybody,
so don't kill me. Damn Fiasco,

859
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:57,679
says Doom of course, Jamie h. Christmas Eve says Star New Valley,

860
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,320
Alex says World of Warcraft, Legion
Slain says x Com two, Xcom two,

861
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,119
of course it was great. I
think we gave a little bit of

862
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:08,639
love to Xcom one. We did
give some love, yeah, yes,

863
00:56:08,679 --> 00:56:13,280
and that deserved an x Com two
actually also just straight up a great game.

864
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,039
Fraxis was actually in their ship in
this time. They had Civilization six,

865
00:56:17,199 --> 00:56:21,679
which I didn't play a huge amount
of, but I still played some

866
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:24,199
in twenty sixteen min when it launched
and still really enjoyed it. It wasn't

867
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:30,960
it. Wait, Civilization games kid
better with time like all the other civilizations,

868
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,239
and it was Action six was that
long ago? Yeah, that's why

869
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,880
Civilization seven is almost certainly coming out
this year. Yeah, because I remember

870
00:56:39,159 --> 00:56:42,840
in my mind that in my mind
that didn't happen that long ago. In

871
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,159
my mind that I was surprised how
soon that happened after Civilization five. I

872
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:50,400
don't want to know when Civilization five
came out now I think exists. What

873
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,880
that was one of the years we've
done already, but I think it was

874
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,360
quite some time. Twenty ten,
okay, so ten, it was only

875
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,280
six years later we had that.
It's been longer than that now, I

876
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,880
do like says six. I like
the way that I really like the way

877
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,599
that the world leaders look at six. I think they're fun. I do

878
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,400
too, Uh Freedom MC liberty Ball
says Dark Soul's three. Mister Bowler says

879
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:14,679
super Hot, which I've only ever
played super Hot VR, which I love,

880
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:17,639
but some people people do love super
Hot. Do you ever played this

881
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:22,039
game? Mike? A little bit
here and there. I never really got

882
00:57:22,119 --> 00:57:25,199
deep into the super Hot minds,
to be honest, there might be one

883
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:30,880
that we could consider for like a
game club discussion at some point. Doctor

884
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,159
Ryan says Tom Clancy's the Division,
which is the game I think can go

885
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,920
really good. Yeah, it's a
good game. This is why we have

886
00:57:37,039 --> 00:57:40,760
Exstruction Shooters nowaday Yeah. Yeah,
I like the Division. I think I

887
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,599
like the Division two even more.
I do too, although I like the

888
00:57:45,639 --> 00:57:49,199
setting the Division one more because the
Division two is like summer in d C.

889
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,559
And I'm my guy looks hot and
sticky. I don't want to go

890
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:53,880
there, Yeah, but you get
to. I don't know. Division two

891
00:57:53,920 --> 00:58:00,119
has that level in the air Space
Museum that I love. Fair enough of

892
00:58:00,199 --> 00:58:04,519
Texas says Titan Fall two. Alex
A Gogo also says x Com two,

893
00:58:05,159 --> 00:58:15,519
Separo's one Wing Angel Lucy says Stumper. Uh, Thumper is a good game

894
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:21,480
that I haven't played enough of which
one is Stumpers. It's a it looks

895
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:27,280
like a tunnel shooter, Yes,
but you muse rhythm tunnel shooter got Yes,

896
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,760
and it's I think you would be
into it because it's like very aggressive

897
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,679
with it. It's music. It's
kind of like hard, like hard rock

898
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,199
and stuff in music. Yes.
Uh hosp says Star New Valley. Uh

899
00:58:38,719 --> 00:58:43,079
Inmpanada Eaters is Mafia three. I
could never get into the Mafia games.

900
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:45,440
I don't know what it is.
I don't like the Mob. I can't.

901
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,840
I can't, I can't Roman.
I can't even like them in like

902
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:53,239
a fun what are you doing?
I not well negative Italian stereotypes with that,

903
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:57,000
like you know, like obviously Pirates
were good people either, but like

904
00:58:57,039 --> 00:59:00,400
I still find like Pirates stuff kind
of fun. I don't find anything about

905
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:06,440
the Mob fun or cool revolutionary.
But whatever Martin Scarce is, he makes

906
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,480
some fun every once in a while. Doctor Lynch says deusex mankind divided.

907
00:59:10,679 --> 00:59:15,159
Oh wow, that was there twenty
sixteen. I just feel like the last

908
00:59:15,239 --> 00:59:19,199
real one. I can't keep them. I could never keep your there's one

909
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:23,960
Wait now I'm confused. There's human
revolutions before May couldn't Ofvite was the sequel?

910
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:29,159
Felt like people didn't talk about nearly
as exactly reason And that's why I

911
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:30,599
like lose track of it because it
was just like I think it got lost

912
00:59:30,639 --> 00:59:32,960
in twenty sixteen. There was a
lot happening. There's a lot happening.

913
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,639
It's kind of have a rough year
for that. Yeah, I wonder if

914
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:38,280
they would feel I know they were
supposed to be making another one. I

915
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:45,000
wonder if they actually will. Teeth
A Lockhart says Sega three D Classics Collection.

916
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,960
Hell, yeah, man, this
is good stuff. It is a

917
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:52,719
good cover art for that. Tom
Tommy Pittzel says Steven's Sausage Roll. Is

918
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,199
this on Steam? Because if it
is, I'll put on my Steam deck

919
00:59:55,199 --> 00:59:59,039
and I'm going to actually play because
I know people love this game. What

920
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,559
is it? It's like one of
those like I think it's like a sliding

921
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:07,119
block puzzle. Yeah, yeah,
honestly, yeah, it's like that that

922
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,719
Black and White game they came out
last year that John was super into it.

923
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,679
Oh, it's a socobon Is that
what they are? Yes, yes,

924
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:19,880
I think it's something like that.
Okay. Uh. JD. Camp

925
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,679
says hit Man twenty sixteen. God, whatever time I see this game,

926
01:00:22,679 --> 01:00:24,960
I'm just like, oh, I
should be playing that game, even though

927
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,679
I think this is a level for
hit Man two. Yeah, you're right,

928
01:00:28,719 --> 01:00:30,239
it is definitely a level for hit
Man two. Iami. Yeah,

929
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:36,039
yes it is. Uh, Lenny
Cool. Dick Denver says Kirby Planet Robobot.

930
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:39,159
Planet Robobot did rule. It's funny
how little three DS kind of stuff

931
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:43,480
we're talking about this year we're away
from the switch to start to fall off.

932
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:45,519
Huh exactly. I was going to
talk about that, and actually to

933
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:49,119
slip my mind, it's like,
man, this is such a good year

934
01:00:49,239 --> 01:00:52,880
for me, even though there wasn't
There's not a lot like top top,

935
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:55,599
top tier Nintendo stuff. And to
be fair, I have not played Kirby

936
01:00:55,639 --> 01:01:00,760
Planet robobotlant Robot's very good. It
is a slow you're Nintendo like. This

937
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,599
was the year where their big game
was Starfux Zero, which I liked fine,

938
01:01:04,719 --> 01:01:07,519
didn't play with a lot of other
people though, Yeah, very oddly

939
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:12,880
Slow Year from the Tow's definitely one
of the best two D Kirby games.

940
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,719
I like Triple de Luxe. This
is that, but Kirby could get into

941
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:19,400
Giant mechs. What a great idea. That's a good idea. Man Magic

942
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:22,559
going from Star Fox Zerrea Breath of
the Wild the next year, Yeah,

943
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:28,679
villain Beck says over Watch, Yes, pretty, Breath of the Wild is

944
01:01:28,679 --> 01:01:31,400
a cool character. What a great
traces fine tracers fun. This always reminds

945
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,800
me of like, hey, why
did that? And I can never remember

946
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,159
what it was called the that boss
Key games not legendary, the one that

947
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:45,719
was made by what's the Cliff Wazenski
his game? Oh no, no,

948
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:53,079
no, you know, look at
this. You look at this cover and

949
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:57,960
you're like, that is a cool
character with a cool face that I can

950
01:01:58,039 --> 01:02:00,800
relate to, Like, that's a
human being doing cool stuff. I can't

951
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,840
wait to see what this game is
about. And then Lawbreakers is like,

952
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,760
We're going to just show you a
bunch of people running away from the camera

953
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:09,039
and some of them gonna have weird
tentacles and come an out of end robots.

954
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:15,360
You. Yeah, it's like such
such the opposite of like what worked

955
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:20,639
for Overwatch, even though it was
clear clearly trying to ape Overwatch. Shoot

956
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:23,159
Hot American Summer Sispony Island. Oh, what's that, Mike. I don't

957
01:02:23,159 --> 01:02:25,519
know if it's aping Overwatch. I
think they came out like the same time,

958
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:28,719
maybe even earlier. I forget,
but yeah, I know what you

959
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:35,280
mean. Yeah, fair enough screaming
Madden, says Madden seventeen. But he

960
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:39,480
put uh put agent forty seven into
the gronk face there. That's pretty good,

961
01:02:39,599 --> 01:02:45,599
Okay, put stadium level. Yes, the super Bowl. You had

962
01:02:45,639 --> 01:02:49,559
to get someone during the Super Bowl, wouldn't that be good? Don't we

963
01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:53,280
still have a map coming to us? I hope I think they did say

964
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,880
that. Yeah, I hope.
I hope we're not just making that up.

965
01:02:57,559 --> 01:03:00,239
That would be fantastic. Game Cube, Chris says, Inside, I

966
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,480
asked, WUSP says hit Man.
Shout out to everyone, talk about it.

967
01:03:04,599 --> 01:03:06,400
Side. We haven't brought that up
at all. Yeah, I'm sorry.

968
01:03:06,639 --> 01:03:08,280
I've never played Inside, so I
just I don't It's not for me.

969
01:03:08,719 --> 01:03:10,920
But if you I know a lot
of people like Inside. I think

970
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,840
Inside I saw something I think about
a lot. Do you ever saw that

971
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,079
that collectible? Do they they sell
with this game that was like made up

972
01:03:20,119 --> 01:03:24,280
a like some material. Other stuff
is made out like for self, this

973
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:29,800
is like the Dune popcorn bucket.
You don't know anyways, moving on,

974
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:36,760
always be clothing. Slash Corgi says, uh, what the fuck is this

975
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:42,440
is that that's to come to?
Okay? Game it looked like metal like

976
01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:45,400
that really threw me off from one
of the I think that might be someone

977
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,960
actually that actually just a snake.
Uh if I had a million layers this

978
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,840
Final Fantasy fifteen. We haven't seen
many of these, but I know some

979
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,960
people do actually really like this game, despite that weird game spot List putting

980
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,639
it very low. That case,
what list was weird? It got some

981
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,400
things right, I thought. I
just looked at it like, I'm like,

982
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,079
this seems right except for nine.
Yeah, well nine was real weird

983
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,920
and there's there's maybe some other things, but that was the one that struck

984
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,199
out to me. I actually liked
it. They gave twelve that much love.

985
01:04:13,639 --> 01:04:15,199
Yeah, fifteen was this year.
Okay, I you know what I

986
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:20,320
liked fifteen And uh, it's a
game that definitely wears it's sort of developmental

987
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:26,039
problems, like on its sleeve you
can see them. I mean thirteen.

988
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:30,519
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Still
a really impressive game in a lot of

989
01:04:30,599 --> 01:04:33,119
ways, and there's certain things about
that I think actually have aged pretty well.

990
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:39,079
That open world was fun, the
kind of bro trip thing did work.

991
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:44,159
The compt system was pretty neat,
the summons were really impressive. Yeah,

992
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:48,840
I like fifteen ant the Savss Battlefield
won, which is another game I

993
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,400
know people really love. Yeah,
I think it's the last battlefield that people

994
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:55,880
really liked, right, yeah,
I think that's the one they looked back

995
01:04:55,920 --> 01:05:01,199
fondly on. And it's like twenty
sixteen after this was what was the next

996
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:05,039
one after this? No, No, hollow Line wasn't the cup one that's

997
01:05:05,159 --> 01:05:09,440
like that. I think Hardline was
before this, to be honest, I

998
01:05:09,559 --> 01:05:15,039
think I think the World War two
one five was after this anyhow. Doominal

999
01:05:15,079 --> 01:05:17,800
Crossing says A M two. I'll
hire another metroid to remake Return of samus

1000
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:21,000
Man. I still I still have
that in a like Google drive, so

1001
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:26,000
I always have access to it.
It's great. Uh the tecond will five

1002
01:05:26,079 --> 01:05:31,559
says Uncharted four A thiefs and a
great choice, beautiful Soup says Civilization six.

1003
01:05:32,519 --> 01:05:36,320
Uh. Octo says Tricky Towers,
which I've never played, but this

1004
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,840
looks pretty cool. Yeah, it's
pretty good. Yeah, you gotta.

1005
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:44,519
It's like it's like the reverse.
You have to make a tower. What

1006
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:47,840
is it? Yeah? Yeah,
you don't clear lines. The blocks are

1007
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,880
physical parts. They used to make
as tall as a tower as you can.

1008
01:05:51,199 --> 01:05:56,000
But it starts caetering and ship and
then you get power ups every so

1009
01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:59,880
often that can like help you keep
the tower together. Nerth oh if you

1010
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:04,360
are playing this, we need to
play jist okay, sound that sounds fantastic.

1011
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,440
Are is it like on Steam or
what? Yeah, it's a Steam

1012
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,920
game that's always like, you know, five bucks or whatever. Yeah,

1013
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:15,440
it's great, fantastic, Okay,
very cool. Wong gift, says Momo

1014
01:06:15,599 --> 01:06:19,079
Dora Reverie under the Moonlight, which
looks uh, I'll say it looks like

1015
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:25,280
a Hintai game. It probably is. Probably those are white Majors from Final

1016
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,400
Fantasy, I think. In the
cover, low Rules says Pokemon's Son.

1017
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,280
All right, look Pokemon free second. Now I'm just going to be mean.

1018
01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:38,360
I don't look if you you know
how like uh you know, Scott

1019
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,920
was Sword has like this really slow
beginning that people can play about god Pokemon's

1020
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,360
Son like, just get on literally
fifteen minutes, go over your baby.

1021
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,920
Yeah right, no, man,
I just play this game a couple of

1022
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,360
months ago. It's literally I am
impressed how they made fifteen minutes. I

1023
01:06:54,480 --> 01:07:00,400
feel like two hours because it is
miserable. Oh my god, So all

1024
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,079
these characters like, ah, this
girl is like running on a bridge away

1025
01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:05,239
from this scario. It's like,
you have a luau. You're being interested,

1026
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:11,000
you like Kingdom Hearts. Shut the
funk up. I'm actually really glad

1027
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,639
you guys are arguing because it's taken
this entire time for me to read what

1028
01:07:13,719 --> 01:07:16,559
this next one is. It's a
cyberpunk bartender action. I think it says

1029
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:21,639
Volhaula. Yeah, yeah, this
game rules is pretty good. Yeah uh,

1030
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,800
I used context clues. I got
there. That rare monkey says odin

1031
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,039
Sphere the Yeah, this is the
enhanced version that came out that year.

1032
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,519
Ocer is very good. I'll never
forget. I bought Odin Sphere on PS

1033
01:07:35,559 --> 01:07:38,960
two when it came out, and
my friend who didn't really play v games

1034
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:43,320
anymore, was there, and he
chastised me because he just assumed like two

1035
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,639
D video games weren't really a thing
anymore, and it was in the same

1036
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:47,199
to him that I was spending I
think it was thirty bucks at the time,

1037
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:53,519
Scooty video game man. That makes
me very mad. Mike, I'm

1038
01:07:53,599 --> 01:08:00,960
sorry he did intern understand. Uh. Breadfish says Shamagami ten say four apocalypse.

1039
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:04,559
People like this. This isn't like, well, people, I don't

1040
01:08:04,599 --> 01:08:08,440
know what I did, and I'm
like, got to keep it up.

1041
01:08:08,559 --> 01:08:11,639
Yeah, maybe I said that again, that wasn't me originally though. This

1042
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:15,760
is this isn't like Persona five Royal
or Persona for Golden. This is a

1043
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,840
sequel to Shimmigambe Tensa four so and
I think a lot of people even like

1044
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:25,119
this more than the original. Wheeze
Man, says Pokemon guy, which I

1045
01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:28,520
was wondering if anyone would bring up. This was that year? Was my

1046
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,520
Pokemon has been around that long?
Wow? Yep, Wow, this was

1047
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:36,560
the year we were all walking around
outside and people Poka stops. We should

1048
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:41,880
have that game is probably gonna have
a pretty big, like ten year anniversary,

1049
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:45,319
and that's like two years away,
ten years. And think about all

1050
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:54,439
the other gives Diantic tried to make
happen since then, right, maybe the

1051
01:08:54,520 --> 01:09:00,960
best one somehow. Oh, that's
incredible. I remember Microsoft that like Minecraft

1052
01:09:00,079 --> 01:09:03,800
one, that you can build Minecraft
stuff anywhere in the world. Yeah,

1053
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:14,039
Cryorsis says Dark Souls. Three joy
Z says okay, you can sure this

1054
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:18,960
one? Did you break? I
don't want to look at it like I

1055
01:09:19,039 --> 01:09:21,359
had to look it up. This
is something to do with the Witness.

1056
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,319
Yeah, this is witness reference.
Look at that because it's a line there.

1057
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,319
Okay, I'll look. It's like
triggering something with me. You got

1058
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:35,239
us, you got it? Uh
b also says Valhalla Bugget Bugget. Dilla

1059
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:43,439
says enter the gungein. Oh,
he's awesome. H input name here says

1060
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:47,319
hyper Light Drifter. Oh, they
play that a little bit, A little

1061
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:50,000
bit the same here. I'm like, I kind of regret not playing more

1062
01:09:50,039 --> 01:09:57,279
of it because it seems so cool. Riz Racer says Kirby Planet Robobot Klink

1063
01:09:57,359 --> 01:10:01,720
says the division. Uh Mitsurugi says
Dragon Balls dragon Ball is Xeno Verse two

1064
01:10:02,359 --> 01:10:06,640
now is it dragon Ball x No? But I mean no, you're not

1065
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:12,039
allowed to put that game up,
okay. Isaac Clark says Lucky's Tail.

1066
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,720
That's a cute game. I like
it. It's a cute enough game that

1067
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,920
got completely fucking lapped by Astrobot Rescue
Mission. In terms of virtual reality three

1068
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:27,039
D platforms uh Teriaki Blues says,
The witness Big Tony the Final Fantasy Guy

1069
01:10:27,119 --> 01:10:30,920
says, Gears of War four will
two Gears. People think of Gears of

1070
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:32,640
War four because that's one I still
know. I took Gars three. I

1071
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,760
was like, I kind of had
my fill of Gears for a while.

1072
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:40,399
I know people like Gears five.
I guess I'm not exactly sure what people

1073
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:45,159
think of four. I have no
idea. Willow Davis says, oh,

1074
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:46,680
that's right. I'm just going to
read the text, Okay. I don't

1075
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:58,520
think that's Abigail's original spread Abigail with
a massive cleavage. I just it looks

1076
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,680
like Tifa level. Seriously. Uh, I see what you've done well here.

1077
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:09,399
And then Daisy Man too says uh
this fire Fates yeah right, yeah,

1078
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,720
yeah, which was good. It
just wasn't quite as good as Awakening

1079
01:11:13,359 --> 01:11:16,920
Camell is pretty good though, Uh, Adam, imagine that, Adam GC,

1080
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:21,680
I think this is Pokemon go.
Yeah? Is it another witnessing or

1081
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:29,199
is it poke? Yes? Okay, good, got it. Laser Wolf

1082
01:11:29,239 --> 01:11:34,000
says uncharted for a Thief's end uh
DMC depressed me crying, says Planet Robobot

1083
01:11:35,119 --> 01:11:43,039
Vision forty nine says doom, Ali
Miracle says Vagina. But oh my gosh,

1084
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:47,520
this is the year that uh,
what's the same? Fire embum sharp

1085
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:56,239
f sharp, mirage sessions, sessions
sharp sessions. There you go. Jeff

1086
01:11:56,279 --> 01:11:59,880
gets the point. Yes, it
is funny, like knowing that somebody had

1087
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:05,760
to go in there like frame by
frame kind of scrip out, but somebody

1088
01:12:06,039 --> 01:12:13,640
gotten mad about Do you think the
person that scrubbed him out knows people got

1089
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,439
mad about it? Or they're like
just getting a job. I hope they

1090
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:20,560
know. I hope they do too. They know. Adam Asleep says Firewatch.

1091
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:26,560
Tears of the Boomer Pal twenty seventy
seven says grow Up's favorite game.

1092
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:29,840
Yeah, look, I'm sorry to
go back. I can't believe I've been

1093
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,680
thinking about vagina botes for eight years. Yeah, the vagina bones has just

1094
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:38,479
been thinking something rattling around my brain
for eight years now. That's not healthy.

1095
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,319
That's yeah, it's not It's not
great because it's also like a go

1096
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,760
to joke for me, and it's
like, oh no, that's really old

1097
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:49,840
now. Dougman says Don Bradman Cricket
for the Xbox. Yeah, we should

1098
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,880
play some Don Bradman Cricket play this, we should play the rugby game.

1099
01:12:54,039 --> 01:12:56,720
I would like to play some of
these. I like rand sports, like

1100
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,880
oh Cricket. This is the only
game Getty games that had the same titles

1101
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:03,319
like Sega Genesis. Yes, and
it looks it looks like it could straight

1102
01:13:03,399 --> 01:13:08,960
up just be a Saga Genesis cover
too. Literally does That's like Tommy Laruss's

1103
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,560
Baseball right there? Uh? Turbo
Shawn says, Titan Fall two and then

1104
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:19,760
but but Larry and Jiehattist but Larian
but larryan Jihadists says, I don't know.

1105
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:24,239
Is this what is this? That
is oxen Free? Yeah? Okay,

1106
01:13:24,319 --> 01:13:27,199
oxen Free right the radio tuning thing, Okay, it's pretty I just

1107
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:29,800
don't want to let this year go
without giving a shout out to this neat

1108
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,000
little game. Uh yeah, I
know people really do like Oxen Free.

1109
01:13:33,039 --> 01:13:35,199
Did you ever play Oxen Free to
Christian? Do you? I know,

1110
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,920
I know I got around to play
that one, but the first one.

1111
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:45,279
I love it. It's pretty good. I remember the dialogue of this game

1112
01:13:45,359 --> 01:13:49,800
being like very real, like very
oh, this is like yeah, people

1113
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:56,640
don't talk like in video games,
So I really like that. Ah right.

1114
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:00,000
That means our list is, are
we adding anything to Overwatch, titan

1115
01:14:00,079 --> 01:14:03,920
Fall two uncharted to four Thieves and
Doom, hit Man twenty sixteen, The

1116
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,800
Witness, Firewatch, and Stardew Valley
Valley. It's like, I don't know.

1117
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,319
It's like I could look, I
could list things, I'd be lying

1118
01:14:12,319 --> 01:14:14,479
if I really thought that they were
gonna make it in over something. Yeah.

1119
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:15,880
I think that's the thing. It's
like we already have a pretty like

1120
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:19,119
competitive list as it is, like
and a lot of them more games that

1121
01:14:19,159 --> 01:14:23,079
people did mention on here, Like
part of me, what's to throw Planet

1122
01:14:23,159 --> 01:14:27,000
Robobot on there? Sure, but
it does need it's probably not happening.

1123
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:30,800
Yeah, I kind of work with
what we have. Let's work with what

1124
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,039
we have. Then I'm happy there's
something that we can like guarantee move up,

1125
01:14:35,199 --> 01:14:40,439
like Overwatch and titan Fall two,
and probably there's a lot. I

1126
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,600
mean, honestly, it's just these
first five. I was about to like

1127
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,319
just say the first two, but
is it Unoverwatch, Tite all two uncharded

1128
01:14:45,359 --> 01:14:47,399
for Doom and Hitman? What are
the other ones that wouldn't make it?

1129
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:51,119
Then The Witness, Firewatch, and
stardew Valley. Well, okay, Star

1130
01:14:51,159 --> 01:14:54,319
New Value. You want you want
to get Star New Valley on there somewhere?

1131
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,680
Okay, Well how about this.
I love The Witness and I love

1132
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,439
Firewatch Firewatch. These are great games. I don't much feel the need to

1133
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,359
flurish them on this list, especially
when like they were not in my top

1134
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,079
three and my top three from that
year are here and I'm looking at them,

1135
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:15,079
so I'm just gonna move these off. Yeah, yeah, that means

1136
01:15:15,119 --> 01:15:18,039
we have six. Yeah, it's
hard because like I don't want Started Valley

1137
01:15:18,039 --> 01:15:21,319
often, yet I'm having a hard
time like, oh, which one would

1138
01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:26,000
I get rid of for it?
Which one would I get rid of for

1139
01:15:26,159 --> 01:15:32,800
it? I mean this, this
will be a year where all six of

1140
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,319
these games I've spent a lot of
time with, and I think I've you

1141
01:15:36,359 --> 01:15:41,760
know, the ones you can beat, I've beaten except I think I did

1142
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,079
a band m I run a Starting
Valley at some point, but I still

1143
01:15:44,119 --> 01:15:46,119
played a ton of it. Let's
figure out what's number one first. Let's

1144
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:48,399
do that, because I think we're
gonna be fighting. There's gonna be two

1145
01:15:48,399 --> 01:15:50,439
games fighting for the fifth spot.
Then we'll figure it out that way.

1146
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,319
I would put forth a titan Fall
two is the best game, but that's

1147
01:15:56,399 --> 01:16:00,399
mostly me playing on hoping that you
your negative not negative, but you're you're

1148
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,199
like waning feelings of Overwatch. Will
like, let me make that happen.

1149
01:16:05,119 --> 01:16:09,239
Yeah, it's hard because I really
really I know. I know, and

1150
01:16:09,319 --> 01:16:11,399
I did too. I did.
Like that's what I'm saying, Like,

1151
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,760
I know it's deserving of number one
in a lot of ways. I just

1152
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,800
think, I look, I like
our Watch more. I think you and

1153
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:23,319
I think our community likes titan Fall
two more. We can do titan Fall

1154
01:16:23,319 --> 01:16:25,399
to at number one yea. And
I just think, like we put out

1155
01:16:25,399 --> 01:16:28,399
a list today, it's like for
me, titan Fall two looks right there.

1156
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,479
I think, you know, ten
more years from now, we might

1157
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,239
be able to look back and be
like, no, Overwatch actually goes back

1158
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:35,960
up. But in this moment,
I think titan Fall two feels that's super

1159
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,920
painful thing for me. I like
titan Fall two a lot. But yeah,

1160
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,560
then Overwatch two, yep, over
Watch one, over Roger at two,

1161
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,880
yes, then hit Man right,
yes, I mean please yeah,

1162
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,960
I think so it's it's fantastic.
I mean, it's a game of the

1163
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,119
Year were like, honestly, I
think I think my Game of the Year

1164
01:16:55,199 --> 01:16:59,159
list at the time was titan Fall
two, Doom, and then hit Man

1165
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,560
and I. At any moment,
any one of those could be well,

1166
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,359
it'll probably go back forth between hit
Man and titan Fall two and then Doom

1167
01:17:05,359 --> 01:17:09,640
kind of floating around there. Can
we talk about like how they're released,

1168
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:15,199
like hit Mass twenty sixteen ho ho
cool was the episodic stuff every time,

1169
01:17:15,319 --> 01:17:20,960
like every couple of months and you
map and like a year event at least

1170
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:26,000
for me. Also like seeing other
people like people John Ball making content and

1171
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,039
watch it was really cool. It
was really cool. That was It was

1172
01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:34,079
such a cool experiment that worked.
And of course they bandoned eventually like square

1173
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:38,479
Enix lost the faith, uh and
and then when they're on their own,

1174
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,199
like they just didn't That wouldn't be
financially reasonable, but it was really cool

1175
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:45,760
when it did happen. I see
where this is going, and it's hurting

1176
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:46,840
me a little bit. What do
you think should be number four? Though

1177
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,600
I think Doom should be number four, But I'm okay with any of these

1178
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:57,399
three, mic I really am.
I like all of them. Yeah,

1179
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,880
okay, let me just all right, Well, for first off, put

1180
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,680
Doom twenty sixteen next to that name. It's gonna you know me, sure'd

1181
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:08,800
be crazy. Uh here's I think. I think a lot of people chat

1182
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,039
and I get it. I want
me to get rid of on Chart four.

1183
01:18:11,119 --> 01:18:13,920
And man, this kind of goes
back to what I always say about

1184
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,359
a Charter four where somehow I feel
like this game is underrated. It part

1185
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,319
it is like I think a lot
of people have just kind of gotten over

1186
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:25,720
on char four in a way that
happened. That is what happened, because

1187
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,119
like on Charter four comes out,
it's really great. And then even like

1188
01:18:29,279 --> 01:18:30,479
a lot of people who I'm like, oh, you're a huge naughty Dog

1189
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,720
fans, can you not wait for
the next Uncharted? And they're like no,

1190
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,720
there's not gonna be another Uncharted And
I'm like, that doesn't bother you?

1191
01:18:36,119 --> 01:18:40,199
Like what that bothers me? And
I don't care about that series.

1192
01:18:42,199 --> 01:18:46,439
It is such a good game and
it came out as it's it's it's I

1193
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,039
can't do it, Jeff. So
you're gonna maybe have to be the one

1194
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:51,520
to tell me that you think a
Chara four should be off the list,

1195
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:56,960
because the problem is I absolutely think
that Doom and Star New Valley should be

1196
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:58,800
on the list. I think all
three games should be on the list,

1197
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:01,119
but also pull out the three games
we already have. So like, I'm

1198
01:19:01,159 --> 01:19:08,880
just a capable I'm just kind of
deadlocked here, all right, if I

1199
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:14,680
do this, it is, it's
doing it for Let's just get that out

1200
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:20,239
of the way, Okay, And
then Mike, I put Uncharted four up

1201
01:19:20,279 --> 01:19:25,560
on five. I think, But
but I I I don't know. I

1202
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,199
somehow like I wanted to, and
I somehow feel more wrong in some ways

1203
01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:31,479
not having started value on it.
I know you're right, and not having

1204
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,439
started value on the on the list
looks weird, weirder than not not having

1205
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:39,560
Uncharted. Yeah, it just does
just does. What a good year?

1206
01:19:40,079 --> 01:19:45,560
It's a good year. We're we
doing on Charted off? Yeah? I

1207
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,479
hate that? Can we do this? Can we put started value even above

1208
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:50,640
Doom actually forgetting Yeah, we're gonna
do that, definitely. I think I

1209
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,600
actually do want to do that.
That's just so hard, like it just

1210
01:19:54,720 --> 01:20:00,479
has to be start. Would you, oh, would you give me a

1211
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:04,560
charter Ford instead of Doom? What
would you think of that? I Mean,

1212
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,119
I don't love it, but I'm
not. I don't hate it either.

1213
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:13,000
I don't because I love Uncharted four. I really Doom is just clearly

1214
01:20:13,079 --> 01:20:15,760
like an important game, you know
in a way that Due is just like

1215
01:20:16,079 --> 01:20:19,439
you know, and you start playing
that like I was just pausing it there

1216
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:23,720
when don't freak out. I agree
that you probably can't do it, like

1217
01:20:24,079 --> 01:20:26,920
maybe I wish that a charter forards
for the game. But you know,

1218
01:20:28,079 --> 01:20:30,520
I guess the importance of Chart four
is that it's one of these games that

1219
01:20:30,039 --> 01:20:32,520
I mean, I charted is in
a lot of ways. And I don't

1220
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,800
want to say this is its legacy. Ask what kind of bad legacy?

1221
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:39,079
But it has gotten us to this
video games just have to be three hundred

1222
01:20:39,119 --> 01:20:42,880
dollars budget games now in some way
yep, and match up with stuff,

1223
01:20:44,079 --> 01:20:46,520
Mike. It's a weird legacy right
now. Yeah, I've got bad news.

1224
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,239
I've tweeted it. So the list
good, it is. The list

1225
01:20:50,359 --> 01:20:54,239
it is, it's hard, it's
rough, and look, if it was

1226
01:20:54,279 --> 01:20:57,359
my list, I would have on
Charter four maybe above similar things. But

1227
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:00,760
I think this is right. It's
I wasn't going into the remembering just how

1228
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,600
good a year this was, but
it was an insanely good Year Wow twenty

1229
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:11,239
sixteen. Geez. The best games
of twenty sixteen are a number five Doom

1230
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:15,159
twenty sixteen and number four Stardew Valley, at number three hit Man twenty sixteen

1231
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:21,159
and number two Overwatch, and number
one is Titan Fall two. Those are

1232
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:27,439
all games that are in some way
in like my personal pantheon of if I

1233
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,079
had to like set up a steam
deck or something to take onto a deserted

1234
01:21:31,119 --> 01:21:35,039
island, there is no way that
that team that does not have these five

1235
01:21:35,119 --> 01:21:39,479
games. Like it's even if I
have limited space, all five of those

1236
01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,439
make it. So it's yeah,
what are good? Good? It's hard

1237
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,199
to be upset, although I meagine
people will be upset out us about dar

1238
01:21:45,239 --> 01:21:47,079
Souls three. But what can you
do? Do you want to do for

1239
01:21:47,159 --> 01:21:49,039
fun? Because we did this a
nighte TI I five. I think you

1240
01:21:49,079 --> 01:21:51,439
have it on that thought. You
want to go real quick year but a

1241
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,960
year and just say what the game
of the year is that we have picked?

1242
01:21:55,159 --> 01:21:57,720
Just sure one, Yeah, let's
hit it. Should we go back

1243
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:03,279
start from the beginning or work our
way back for actually the dogs kind of

1244
01:22:03,279 --> 01:22:05,399
start at Z so let me get
it up here. In a second,

1245
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:09,279
kill some time for me. All
right, I will kill some time for

1246
01:22:09,359 --> 01:22:11,319
you. God, I'm going to
play the ten withst So I don't know

1247
01:22:11,359 --> 01:22:16,560
what else to do. I know
you want to know boy name is Missus

1248
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:24,439
Clay and she had person. Well, I the thing I lost nitrol because

1249
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,760
I can't pay it anymore. I
don't. I don't know. This card

1250
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,359
doesn't want me to pay them for
some reason. So I had like that

1251
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,800
custom name, so like I had
custom names on all the servers I use.

1252
01:22:33,399 --> 01:22:36,720
So when that thing went out,
I just kept that name, that

1253
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:41,520
joke name that I have with my
friends the other Doom because it's a Dum

1254
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:45,760
reference, the other Dum freaks of
the Doom server. So you like,

1255
01:22:45,079 --> 01:22:48,600
I don't know, it's everywhere now
and I didn't. I didn't change it.

1256
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:54,359
So that's the story behind them.
Butlai, the Terran she had,

1257
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:59,800
she had happened like like two thousand
years before the events on doing or something

1258
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,560
like that. Well, like the
robots got all like crazy and man,

1259
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:08,079
so had we had to kill them
all? What year did we start with?

1260
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,960
Nineteen ninety five? Okay, I
found back to two thousand and five.

1261
01:23:12,039 --> 01:23:14,279
I think I got it. It's
got to be here somewhere, let's

1262
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:15,880
here. I know, I thought, y'all, I thought it's like all

1263
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,520
had it in one dog. I
haven't like four different docks because after like

1264
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:24,239
you get to the Z column.
I'm just there's probably a way to get

1265
01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:26,039
it to repeat. But I'm like, oh, just start a new doc

1266
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,840
for now, starting with two thousand
and five, I have Okay, it's

1267
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,319
rest Evel four. Uh, then
it is Elite beat Agents in two thousand

1268
01:23:34,359 --> 01:23:38,720
and six. Two thousand and seven
is Mario Galaxy. Two thousand and eight

1269
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:44,000
is Mirror's Edge, two thousand and
nine is Batman Arkham Asylum to twenty ten

1270
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:48,439
super Mario Galaxy two. Then let's
see in this other list. I'm really

1271
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:50,560
proud of that Mirrors Dad. I
must have put up a good fight on

1272
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:55,640
that one. I think I was
one of your big stands. Twenty eleven

1273
01:23:55,840 --> 01:24:00,000
was Skyrim. You guys won't even
let me get what the f happened in

1274
01:24:00,359 --> 01:24:03,039
For twenty eleven, you wouldn't let
me get Saints Row the Third at number

1275
01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:06,600
two. You have Ghost Trick at
number two. Man, I must have

1276
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:11,079
fell asleep. Trick's a better game. You were there. There was one

1277
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:13,880
year you weren't there. Yeah,
what was twenty e Love Read twenty eleven?

1278
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,079
That might have been me and Mikey
episode earlier. No, it was

1279
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:18,039
I think I was there. It
was a sky Rim I think, well

1280
01:24:18,159 --> 01:24:23,159
maybe No, we're the R five
games real quick. It's okay. It's

1281
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:26,520
Ghost Trick, Saints Row, the
Third Portal two in Pokemon Black and White.

1282
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:28,560
Well, there you go. It's
on the list. Like what you

1283
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,800
what you mentioned? It's number three
instead of two. Yeah, it's not

1284
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,840
a great game. What the fuck
you christ? This is? This is

1285
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:39,920
what happened, isn't it? In
twenty twelve it was x COM Enemy Unknown

1286
01:24:40,039 --> 01:24:44,880
twenty thirteen, Zelda A Link between
Worlds? The best game so far twenty

1287
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,600
fourteen, Shovel Night, Middle Gear
Solid five of the Phantom Pain in twenty

1288
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:53,680
fifteen. Twenty sixteen is Titan Fall
two man no offense like the Fan of

1289
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,560
Pain. There's a lot of games
from this list that I might have put

1290
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,960
over a Phantom Pain. Yes,
yes, better here, yeah, yeah,

1291
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,600
twenty sixteen is incredible, Man,
twenty seventeen is gonna be even better.

1292
01:25:04,359 --> 01:25:09,439
You're twenty seventeen next? So no, dang? Okay, all right,

1293
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,479
let's take one last quick break just
to make sure we get everything's sorted

1294
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:15,399
here, and then we will do
some super chats talk about what we've been

1295
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:20,319
playing right after this. All right, and we're back, Mike, Let's

1296
01:25:20,399 --> 01:25:24,479
hit those superchats before we get to
what we've been playing. Yeah sure,

1297
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:30,520
let me find out exactly where we
left off here. Wow, okay,

1298
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,800
So yeah, Ram Vincent for the
first sup cha I think so? I

1299
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,279
said, Hey, Jeff, what's
up? I missed any news that this

1300
01:25:38,399 --> 01:25:42,399
week. Appreciate you tons guys,
A ton, thank you, Ray.

1301
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,760
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's
nothing. Nothing happened. If people don't

1302
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,039
recognize Rain Vincent been on the Giant
Bomb couch, it's from respawn. Hey

1303
01:25:49,319 --> 01:25:51,880
oh cool, thanks for tuning that. Man, appreciate it, Love you,

1304
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:57,439
bud uh Rito says for twenty sixteen
days, X Man kind of vide

1305
01:25:57,439 --> 01:25:59,239
it. I had to get it
out there. Underrated Joe, You know,

1306
01:25:59,359 --> 01:26:02,079
I, like everyone else, even
though I loved Human Revolution, I

1307
01:26:02,199 --> 01:26:05,319
just never played a second of being
kind of byed for some reason. Yeah,

1308
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:10,119
touched it. Yeah, busy,
I was just playing. It was

1309
01:26:10,199 --> 01:26:12,880
clearly just a busy year on it, just like it seemed like there was

1310
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,840
a lack of excitement for it.
So I was like, I guess I

1311
01:26:15,039 --> 01:26:16,640
don't need to play that. I
don't know. There was like, I

1312
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:19,520
mean, all the games that we
put in our list were like part of

1313
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:24,920
the zeitgeist, right like even like
you know, titan Fall two didn't take

1314
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,119
over the world, but it was
like, I have to tell people about

1315
01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:30,560
this. I was part of my
zeitgeist. Then Overwatch and Hitman started,

1316
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:36,399
Valiant Doom all had some conversation happening
around them, and it's like DIOSX just

1317
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,199
did not, And so I was
so easy to ignore and I must have

1318
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:45,000
ignored it, Eden says, writing
in to say Apex sent out a new

1319
01:26:45,079 --> 01:26:48,239
survey to players this week. That's
a lot of questions about single player Apex

1320
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:53,800
slash titan Fall two content, which
they said didn't make enough money at that

1321
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:58,279
time a few years ago when they
tried it. Yeah. Yeah, I

1322
01:26:58,359 --> 01:27:00,560
mean I think there are to be
a lot of like, hey, thinking

1323
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:03,439
about what's next, what what what? What? How can we shift things

1324
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:08,000
up? So hopefully everything's back on
the table. I like Mike's idea of

1325
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:12,479
taking what happened with uh the Star
Wars first person shooter so far and doing

1326
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,680
something else with it. I hope
that I hope that's possible. Curtis Tates,

1327
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,680
is, Jeff and Mike, what
is your most memorable and our favorite

1328
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:24,159
gaming related memory from your childhood.
I mean the earliest stuff was any stuff

1329
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,399
watching my brother play Mega Man or
playing other games like that. Myself a

1330
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:31,159
lot of a lot of Mega Man
Disney games in Mario at that time.

1331
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,079
Whenever I probably played meg Mahn.
Ever, the Capcom lego came up,

1332
01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:40,199
I would get really excited and go
cap oh God, yeah, apparent thing

1333
01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:45,439
that everybody my parents liked and whatnot. So yeah, that's kind of the

1334
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,239
big one for me. Uh yeah, mine's the typical stuff of like getting

1335
01:27:49,279 --> 01:27:51,840
the ani As for my fifth birthday. I've talked about before that one really

1336
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:57,079
sticks out, But now there's a
ton of just like playing games in the

1337
01:27:57,239 --> 01:28:00,680
We had a finished basement, so
just like having this like Little or Dungeon

1338
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,840
as a kid that I could go
down to play video games whenever I won,

1339
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:05,640
and it was nice and cool down
there. So it's like even the

1340
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,439
summer, it was like this great
retreat from the sun when we got them

1341
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:14,319
playing outside, and those feelings are
very very nostalgic for me. That's a

1342
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,000
very special place in my heart for
that. I in my childhood at home,

1343
01:28:17,039 --> 01:28:20,079
like my first room. This is
like the home I like was in

1344
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:25,319
from baby to about five night we
moved. Like there was a wall that

1345
01:28:25,399 --> 01:28:28,560
had a bunch of these Mario stickers
on. They're kind of big stickers,

1346
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,359
right, that's cool. I love
them. I was just like about today.

1347
01:28:30,359 --> 01:28:32,119
It was like the first time in
my life I thought about them.

1348
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:34,119
It occurred to me because I haven't
thought about him in a while. Like,

1349
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,800
you know, those didn't like just
grow on the wall. My parents

1350
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,359
like knew I liked Mario and got
those for me and put them on the

1351
01:28:40,399 --> 01:28:43,279
wall for meet. That was really
nice to them. I appreciate them.

1352
01:28:44,399 --> 01:28:46,000
That was great. It's funny,
Like even then it was like, what

1353
01:28:46,199 --> 01:28:48,680
is Mike like he likes a video
game? Yeah, right, when I

1354
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:55,159
was like three. It's just I
liked video games in Disney people. I've

1355
01:28:55,199 --> 01:29:00,640
always been that way. Michael cortests
Microsoft really couldn't let them by themselves loves

1356
01:29:00,720 --> 01:29:03,359
out before they gutted them last month. Oh, anyways, keep up the

1357
01:29:03,399 --> 01:29:06,399
great work, y'all love the show. Well, well, they closed a

1358
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:10,680
studio last month. I don't think
they fired anyone from Toys for Bob,

1359
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,079
I forget no, they did the
toys. Bob was hit by the layoffs.

1360
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:15,479
Yes, okay, I don't know
what it was like. I don't

1361
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:19,039
know if gut it is correct,
but they were definitely significantly hit by it.

1362
01:29:20,279 --> 01:29:25,439
Prophecy O two says the secret best
Pokemon like World of Final Fantasy is

1363
01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:27,800
one of my favorite games with Final
Fantasy title. It also came out in

1364
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,199
twenty sixteen. I remember our old
editor Jason Wilson actually liked World of Final

1365
01:29:31,279 --> 01:29:34,359
Fantasy a lot. It's a game
that I and a lot of other people

1366
01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:38,520
forget about, but it was It
had like the classic ATB battle system.

1367
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:41,920
It's like all these cheap characters,
which I think whenever you do that,

1368
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,159
you kind of run the risk of
your game seeming unimportant. I think that's

1369
01:29:45,199 --> 01:29:48,119
just what happened with Persona Tactica and
not too long ago. But yeah,

1370
01:29:48,359 --> 01:29:54,000
something I'll check that one out.
Actually, Na ten Derek's Pokemon Go was

1371
01:29:54,039 --> 01:30:00,119
twenty sixteen, and also Watchdogs too
Watchugs twos. Okay, yeah, I'm

1372
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:03,800
not gonna rate that here one right, Yeah, I think so probably it

1373
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:09,159
definitely course correct because the first Watchdogs
took itself very seriously and this one,

1374
01:30:09,319 --> 01:30:12,640
like everything else around this time was
kind of joking it up a lot more,

1375
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,159
but I think that was probably the
Watchdogs lead is kind of like what

1376
01:30:16,279 --> 01:30:18,600
what what are we even doing?
This is kind of how I show it,

1377
01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:23,359
right, Like what is this?
What's what's this game? I don't

1378
01:30:23,359 --> 01:30:27,079
even know anymore? Does anybody?
No? I don't know. Conna,

1379
01:30:27,119 --> 01:30:30,880
what's his Prick Cross three D Round
two? Danget, you're a pick Ross

1380
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:32,640
freak. I mean we talked about
Prickross three D last time. I think

1381
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,800
here is Round two is just as
good. It really is great. You

1382
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:41,000
know, we talked about it because
of the DS hidden Gems recently. That's

1383
01:30:41,039 --> 01:30:43,680
why. That's right, That's right, Yes, okay, that makes sense.

1384
01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:47,239
Done and Done says after seeing Mike
overcome both Dan and Shinach. I'm

1385
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:50,600
happy to find his next pack of
Larkana. Love the show. Thank you,

1386
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:56,079
Done and Done. I I can't
wait to get more Arcana cards.

1387
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:59,640
We finally like played a game with
my brother Toolongo and we were just using

1388
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,239
our uh starter decks off all the
Ducktails cars and then like I'm like,

1389
01:31:02,319 --> 01:31:08,039
yeah, this keeps Funana has Disney? Has Disney noticed? Are you guys?

1390
01:31:08,079 --> 01:31:12,000
Influencers yet. I don't think they
noticed just yet. Although any minute

1391
01:31:12,039 --> 01:31:15,119
now, though, I think it's
gonna just look. I want a card

1392
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:17,079
reveal. Think that's the thing they
do. Yep, the last that I

1393
01:31:17,159 --> 01:31:21,279
think I am more than the two
horns. There's not much of a horn

1394
01:31:21,359 --> 01:31:25,680
to too, trust me. I
looks. But I want to reveal a

1395
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,800
card and I think that I deserve
that. I think you deserve it too,

1396
01:31:30,199 --> 01:31:34,640
and four Press says congratulations. Mikey
On mitchsologies also Dan is a poop

1397
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:44,800
poohead with poo poop for braids.
Peas positive. That is harsh, love

1398
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,159
it? Uh? And then Ali
Miracle says eight years of vagina bones sure

1399
01:31:48,359 --> 01:31:53,199
isn't healthy? Yeah, yeah,
that's very low body fact to even make

1400
01:31:53,239 --> 01:31:56,720
that work. I think so.
Probably not. I don't. Yeah,

1401
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:02,640
maybe it's good for you to be
that. I'm not sure that's it for

1402
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,720
now. Jeff, Hey, what
you've been playing, buddy? Yeah?

1403
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:10,600
I mean it was it still is
mostly blatro. I did start up and

1404
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,600
played a little bit more of Final
Fantasy seven Rebirth because I was going to

1405
01:32:15,319 --> 01:32:16,239
get past the content. You told
me to get pasted, and I was

1406
01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:18,399
told not to, so I stopped
doing that. But sorry, Jeff,

1407
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:21,840
I thought it was the right boo. But that's all right whatever, No,

1408
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:24,880
it's fine. I'm like, it
was cool to play because that's a

1409
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:28,640
fun game from what I played so
far with Like, it's really cool looking

1410
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,560
and it's got a lot of cool
stuff happening. Early on, I was

1411
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:36,520
in to you, I'm trying to
But aside from airy and all that stuff,

1412
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:41,159
do you know the plot twist of
the original fan Fantasy seven? No?

1413
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:45,279
Interesting? Okay? Cool? Yeah, so that was neat, but

1414
01:32:45,399 --> 01:32:50,920
it really was a lot of billatro
I did I think the embargoes up on

1415
01:32:51,159 --> 01:32:56,359
Expeditions a mud Runner game? Yeah, Solco reviews for that earlier today.

1416
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:00,840
I started playing that and that immediately
felt really good. I haven't played a

1417
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:02,279
ton of that because I haven't playing
a bunch of other stuff, but I

1418
01:33:02,399 --> 01:33:06,439
figured I would probably make a point
for us to play that on content because

1419
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:10,840
I think it seems like it's kind
of a much better online multiplayer mode than

1420
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:14,199
the previous mud Runner games have had, and it seems to fit that idea

1421
01:33:14,319 --> 01:33:16,920
maybe better than the mud Runner games
did, So I think that might be

1422
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:21,359
a good way to experience in the
first the first few hours but either way,

1423
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:26,479
like for those games, what attracted
me to mud Runners originally was when

1424
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:30,079
it was called spin Tires, and
I just saw a gift of a big

1425
01:33:30,319 --> 01:33:33,479
fat truck tire tearing through the mud
and kicking the mud up and deforming the

1426
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,960
mud, and I'm like, that
is my shit. That is what I

1427
01:33:36,039 --> 01:33:39,520
love about video games. And I
went to go play the game and it

1428
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,159
was that it felt just as good
as I imagined it would feel. So

1429
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:45,680
when I boot up this game and
I'm immediately in a big truck that is

1430
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:50,319
kind of like in this dried mud
divot on the road, and like you're

1431
01:33:50,319 --> 01:33:54,279
getting the wheels to sort of like
climb up the side of these divots so

1432
01:33:54,359 --> 01:33:57,760
that you can get some traction and
then it slides back down in and it

1433
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,039
just feels right and feels challenging to
get just like to do this like simple

1434
01:34:01,119 --> 01:34:04,079
turn. I was like immediate,
like, okay, it feels right to

1435
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:08,640
me. That's half the battle.
Now. I just hope that the game

1436
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,239
side of it of do these challenges, do these do these we're going to

1437
01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:15,279
put a goal on your map,
get to that goal. I hope that

1438
01:34:15,359 --> 01:34:18,239
that stuff is interesting. That's really
where they improved for mud Runner to snow

1439
01:34:18,319 --> 01:34:21,920
Runner. Snow Runner was a much
better game. This one seems like it

1440
01:34:23,039 --> 01:34:25,840
like has figured that stuff out even
more. And if that's the case,

1441
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,920
then I'm going to be truly in
love. And I can't wait. Yeah

1442
01:34:30,079 --> 01:34:31,119
I might. I've never actually played
as I was a spider much. You

1443
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:33,279
like them? This one I'll have
to check out. Yeah, Like,

1444
01:34:33,359 --> 01:34:36,199
yeah, I think we'll just we'll
make a data of it on Giant Bomb

1445
01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:40,079
and we'll we'll play it and you
know, get Dan in there and stuff.

1446
01:34:40,119 --> 01:34:44,039
We'll have a good time. Are
you playing with Will or are you

1447
01:34:44,079 --> 01:34:45,439
playing it on the wheel? I
know you have a wheel, but are

1448
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:47,399
you playing it? I will get
the wheel set up. Yeah, But

1449
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,039
right now, I actually just boot
it up on the steam Deck because I'm

1450
01:34:50,039 --> 01:34:53,079
like, hey, snow Runner ran
pretty well in there, I bet,

1451
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,880
And I think this game is coming
out on Switch, so I bet this

1452
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,279
game runs great on Steam Deck and
it did. It runs falllessly. So

1453
01:35:00,079 --> 01:35:01,359
yeah, I've been playing it there
mostly just so I could get in there.

1454
01:35:02,319 --> 01:35:04,039
Yeah, Mike, how about you, what have you been playing?

1455
01:35:04,319 --> 01:35:08,640
Well? I'm curious actually if you
checked out Dark Forces the remaster? Oh

1456
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:11,680
yeah, I did. I played
the first two levels, and I'm gonna

1457
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:13,920
play more of it and I think
i'll try to play some of it on

1458
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:17,680
on the site. Uh god,
it's just immediately, it's just it's a

1459
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,039
good game. I just like,
yeah, I like, I like Doom

1460
01:35:21,319 --> 01:35:25,199
and I like Star Wars. When
it's Doom, they just nailed it,

1461
01:35:25,279 --> 01:35:27,920
and it's it's a lot of fun. It's the best of the Doom clones.

1462
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:29,960
I'm excited. Even though I just
played it not too long ago,

1463
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:31,600
I'm excited to play it again.
There's only a few reviews out there right

1464
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,359
now, and they're mostly positive.
There's like, you know, I don't

1465
01:35:34,359 --> 01:35:36,399
want to pick a people's reviews.
There's a couple like, oh, you

1466
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:40,319
know, this is an old game, and it's like, you know,

1467
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,439
maybe that's maybe that's an okay opinion. But people review movies. Nobody's like,

1468
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:47,800
well this is an old movie.
Yeah, I mean obviously it's different.

1469
01:35:48,079 --> 01:35:53,680
Sometimes it's different always like yeah,
I said, for a lot of

1470
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,920
people that's like, well it's just
better now, and like, yeah,

1471
01:35:56,119 --> 01:36:00,199
I know it is. There's something
about that too. I liked, but

1472
01:36:00,279 --> 01:36:01,680
I don't know, I'm excited.
Did you know, is there a way

1473
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:06,279
to choose those the kind of smoother
or the original cut scenes. Is that

1474
01:36:06,399 --> 01:36:10,039
a thing? Yeah, yes,
I think I think there's even like a

1475
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,479
you could do it very quickly,
like even though sign it to a button,

1476
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,399
it's not automatically assigned to a button, but yes you can. Although

1477
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,239
those cuttings didn't, the newer ones
didn't bother me as much as I thought

1478
01:36:20,279 --> 01:36:26,079
they would. It's fine in motion, It's it's mostly fine. It's got

1479
01:36:26,119 --> 01:36:29,399
like some accessibility settings and and all
that stuff. It's very easy to get

1480
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:31,439
the game like just going and then
you know, set up to run the

1481
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:34,159
way you run wanted to run.
So yeah, I'm very happy with it.

1482
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:40,439
And there's just there's something about a
three D first person shooter with two

1483
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,079
D sprites that have those animations of
like oh I just got shot and I'm

1484
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:47,560
falling down and it looks so good
blown up in HD like this. It's

1485
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:50,039
I just love being in those games. It's just always this is a fun

1486
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:55,479
little Star Wars story too. It's
just kind of I don't know if adorable

1487
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,720
is the word, but it kind
of is. Yeah. I love Kyle

1488
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:02,319
katarn I do I do, I
do stuff, but he's great. Yeah,

1489
01:37:02,399 --> 01:37:04,880
I think I'm a more of a
Kyle Guitaran guy. But I also

1490
01:37:05,159 --> 01:37:09,560
love Jedi Outcast a lot. Sure, Jedi Night I need to play.

1491
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:14,079
I hope they remastered Jedi also,
that would rar is kind of ironic for

1492
01:37:14,279 --> 01:37:17,439
me. I think people actually legitimate
Kyle Kataran. Yeah, I think that's

1493
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:21,760
absolutely true. I don't get that
that makes a lot of sense me.

1494
01:37:23,279 --> 01:37:28,239
Uh gosh, there's so much fun
faces having Rebirth last week. I actually

1495
01:37:28,239 --> 01:37:30,359
haven't gone back to it yet because
it was a bit of like catching up

1496
01:37:30,359 --> 01:37:33,159
with some other things, although I
really do want to. There's a lot

1497
01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:36,359
of other there's a lot of quests
and things I want to finish up there.

1498
01:37:38,319 --> 01:37:41,000
But yeah, a lot more Bolatro
if I finished quite a few runs

1499
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,680
of that. It is sort of
my I'm gonna kill time play this for

1500
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,159
thirty minutes, or just unwine for
a hot second, or you know,

1501
01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:49,079
one of your streams is on,
Jeff and I'll play that while I watch

1502
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:54,000
it, or something like that.
It's fantastic for that still manages to be

1503
01:37:54,159 --> 01:37:57,319
a ton of fun. Been playing
a lot of Persona three reloaded. Still

1504
01:37:57,319 --> 01:38:00,319
still playing that basically every night,
and I do really like that. I

1505
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:04,359
know, maybe it's almost seems like
like something we've already talked about and moved

1506
01:38:04,399 --> 01:38:06,880
on, but I was still very
impressed with the quality of that, and

1507
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:09,800
it is like, make me think
in a lot of ways, how I

1508
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:14,760
actually do prefer the ways it was
handled Persona three instead of person of five,

1509
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:16,399
or at least that I liked it
when the scale was maybe just a

1510
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,960
little bit smaller in some ways,
not that this is like it has to

1511
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:24,600
be Persona three versus Persona five,
which is still obviously an incredible game,

1512
01:38:25,079 --> 01:38:29,800
but there is something different and unique
about Persona three that I am still appreciating

1513
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:32,479
now, and it's a very nice
remick, even if again, some of

1514
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,600
the social links are weird. I
just had a social link yesterday. One

1515
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:39,199
of the social links is that there's
a little guru plays at a playground.

1516
01:38:39,239 --> 01:38:42,359
You can be her friend, So
that's already a little weird. And then

1517
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,119
just recently she was crying and she's
like, oh, my parents are getting

1518
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:48,079
divorced, and I asked my dad
why, and then he hit me,

1519
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:53,720
and then my mom said it was
my fault for being annoying, and like

1520
01:38:54,079 --> 01:38:57,840
you can't do anything except just be
like, yeah, that sucks. That's

1521
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:04,720
basically your nicest option, like I'll
get the police. So it's just it's

1522
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:10,119
like, well bye, I'm like, okay, this this is just really

1523
01:39:10,359 --> 01:39:15,960
weird the way you interact with these
very tense or weird problems that your quote

1524
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:19,920
unquote friends have. They get to
a point where it's like like Persona four

1525
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:26,399
and five still have a lot of
these personal interactions, but they do handle

1526
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,880
it more maturely. I don't know, like maybe it's hard to say.

1527
01:39:29,920 --> 01:39:31,439
Now. I'm kind of curious because
it has been well since I played Persona

1528
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:34,920
four, I'm like, what are
Persona four social links better? Because they'll

1529
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,840
be clear, not all of them
are like that. There's still a lot

1530
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:39,279
no, no, no, no, yeah, I know, yeah,

1531
01:39:39,279 --> 01:39:43,039
of course I'm not suggesting. Also, I think they they became less dark,

1532
01:39:43,319 --> 01:39:48,439
like in the more like friends.
We're old friends, so she just

1533
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:53,079
hang out and had adventures. Ideal, it's still pretty dark. But yeah.

1534
01:39:53,399 --> 01:39:57,920
Plus, like in Persona three,
the only the the girl party members

1535
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:02,119
could be social links because it was
only a day thing and the at least

1536
01:40:02,159 --> 01:40:04,920
waits you don't have to date them
to finish the social liaq, which is

1537
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:08,520
the thing. But the guys don't
have their own social links. And four

1538
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:11,239
and forward. All the guys do
also, So a lot of your social

1539
01:40:11,279 --> 01:40:14,439
links are just your party members in
four and five. There's a lot more

1540
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:18,239
still, but they're taking up a
lot of those slots. Hey, guys,

1541
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:21,560
I got a little bit of news
here before we get out of here.

1542
01:40:24,039 --> 01:40:31,720
Bandy Namco has just announced Ridge Racer
No. Thirtieth anniversary. What he

1543
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:41,159
shirt told you Mike concert event happening
in July. But but where's the concert?

1544
01:40:41,199 --> 01:40:46,000
Acting to go? Hey, gotta
flying Mike you out to Japan?

1545
01:40:47,239 --> 01:40:50,760
Like like, sure, I wish
there's more, but like that concert is

1546
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:58,119
gonna fucking rule the best concert ever
in Jeff. I mean, we haven't

1547
01:40:58,119 --> 01:41:00,960
gotten update from you, But do
you think this is where they're going to

1548
01:41:01,039 --> 01:41:06,560
finally announce that big Ridge Racer project. I can't comment on an active investigation,

1549
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,880
so okay, so I'm going,
Hey, Greg Miller responded to your

1550
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:13,439
top five, just say, grow
up? What do you think it is?

1551
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,399
He's upset? Upout? Do you
think he Do you think he's talking

1552
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:18,920
about the game? Grow up?
Is? Sarah came call? All right,

1553
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:26,600
we did talking about we need to
finish the joke right now. Incredible.

1554
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:30,319
I'm looking up inform sure this Ridge
man Rich Race is gonna be thirty.

1555
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,840
They should do they should up.
They should do something with Ridge Racer.

1556
01:41:34,159 --> 01:41:38,319
They should do something with Ridge Racer. Absolutely, do we have any

1557
01:41:38,359 --> 01:41:40,239
other super chats? Mike? I
think we're all caught up, right,

1558
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:43,159
they were actually caught up. I'll
double check, but no, I think

1559
01:41:43,199 --> 01:41:45,479
we're good. We are good.
Last one was about vagina bones. Last

1560
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,319
one was about vagina bones. The
next one is probably gonna be about vagina

1561
01:41:49,359 --> 01:41:53,600
bones. That's because you're listening to
Game Mess Decides with me, Jeff Grubbin,

1562
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,000
Mike naughty, Mike Manatti. I
know you're got to trip happen in

1563
01:41:57,039 --> 01:42:00,840
all that stuff. You looking forward
to anything in particular for your excursion.

1564
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:04,239
I don't know. Sometimes you simply
know when you just recorded the worst podcast

1565
01:42:04,319 --> 01:42:10,800
industry, That's right. That's sometimes
you simply know. Why is why was

1566
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:15,279
that guy saying you have to come
get him because our dad's picking us up

1567
01:42:15,399 --> 01:42:17,399
so early that he's just gonna stay
here so like my dad doesn't wake up

1568
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:21,000
his family. Oh incredible, my
dad. My dad likes to get to

1569
01:42:21,039 --> 01:42:29,560
the airport very like, all right, bye. I don't know, it's

1570
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,920
better than late, for sure.
It doesn't bother me. I like stuff,

1571
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,800
doesn't like getting there too early.
But I'm like, when I'm traveling

1572
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,840
alone, I'm like, I don't
know if I'm there four or five hours

1573
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,119
early. That doesn't even bother me
a little bit. Right, never happens

1574
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:42,479
when you're going to the airport with
me. Usually you're kind of late and

1575
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,720
I get worried. Well, yeah, listen, I'll go get there.

1576
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:47,520
Well, I'll get there when I
get there. If I'm traveling for work,

1577
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,520
it's like it's something to work,
I'll pay for it. I'm a

1578
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:51,960
right. He don't get you.
I gotta I got a couple of things

1579
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:54,680
they do. I'll let you know
what. I'm on my way. Don't

1580
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,600
worry. I'm gonna be three hours
away to seven am flight. You know,

1581
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,960
they don't open the ticket counters till
like two hours before the first player,

1582
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,680
so they we're just gonna have to
sit in like the entrance area.

1583
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,840
We can't even get to the terminal
probably or the gate. Go. Well,

1584
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:12,079
now it's a lowercase you on the
up and there's a period after it.

1585
01:43:12,239 --> 01:43:14,960
So he is just telling us to
grow up? What is what is?

1586
01:43:15,159 --> 01:43:17,840
What is? Uh? Upset?
I mean he likes the charted right.

1587
01:43:18,239 --> 01:43:20,760
I think he might be making a
double uncentre there. I don't know.

1588
01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:29,399
Okay, uh chart listen to chart
is very good. Absolutely, I

1589
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:33,640
am this weekend, I am looking
forward to just relax. You know,

1590
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:38,800
I'm gonna just go to sleep.
I haven't been burning at both ends and

1591
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,960
I'm gonna stop that this week and
just relax. All right, right,

1592
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:43,720
thanks for listening. Until next time. I have a good one. To

1593
01:43:43,720 --> 01:43:47,640
take care of yourself, and goodbye. Call over next week. Sorry,

1594
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:59,840
my bot, you know Chust you
just said he said about the loveber next

1595
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:04,159
week, I promise Columbra, but
ain't happening today. Sorry, we promises

1596
01:44:04,399 --> 01:44:26,159
all the time. He can fuck
the fuck up. I don't. Oh

1597
01:44:26,279 --> 01:44:33,880
yeah, all right, your s
s anthem behind me? Motherfuckers. These

1598
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:39,560
people are the people that makes the
fucking product to make your profit. What

1599
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:44,359
are you doing where you should see
them as a fucking number piece of me?

1600
01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:50,159
The funk off. I'm so I'm
so angry sometimes you should be terly.

1601
01:44:50,319 --> 01:44:54,399
I feeling like sad, which I
don't like. I don't like feeling

1602
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,159
sad when this happens. If I
feel sad, I feel sad for a

1603
01:44:57,199 --> 01:45:00,319
little bit, and then I get
angry because angry is like a good fuel

1604
01:45:00,399 --> 01:45:03,640
for this ship. Yeah, if
you're sad, you kind of stop there.

1605
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:08,000
It's like, oh, well everything
so so much your brain kind of

1606
01:45:08,079 --> 01:45:11,720
doesn't search for the answer. But
when you're angry, they're like, fuck

1607
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:14,960
this ship, what's what's going on? So like lately you feel like kind

1608
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,079
of more sad and angry because he's
it's just so much like this and there's

1609
01:45:18,079 --> 01:45:20,319
so many, so many good games. Is like you pissing me off.

1610
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:26,000
It's like the talented people having to
suffer these workers. It's just like my

1611
01:45:26,119 --> 01:45:30,239
coming is hard, like just like
you can't take it so passed yep.

1612
01:45:30,319 --> 01:45:34,399
And it's just like what people pointing
out like it's it's all industries and it's

1613
01:45:34,399 --> 01:45:36,760
like, yeah, you feel that. Like anytime I go out to do

1614
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:42,439
anything, everyone's so stressed out.
Everyone feels like the direct their wits,

1615
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:46,239
and no one feels good about interacting
with other workers because everyone knows all the

1616
01:45:46,319 --> 01:45:49,720
other workers are abused or people are
actively abusing workers in front of you because

1617
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:53,560
they just want to have some control
over their lives. So yeah, it's

1618
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:57,159
just like the ship in shitten name, what does that phrase? Is?

1619
01:45:57,319 --> 01:46:00,720
Everywhere it shitification, that's what it
is. It's just everywhere and it Yeah,

1620
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:03,560
it makes me angry but also makes
me want to retreat a little bit.

1621
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:10,720
It's not a good feeling. All
right, Hopefully more workers, like

1622
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:14,079
more like unions and stuff that will
help a lot, Like for real,

1623
01:46:14,119 --> 01:46:16,960
for real, it's gonna help you, I swear to God. Like that's

1624
01:46:17,199 --> 01:46:20,359
like more of a revolution somewhere.
So it's got to be, like it's

1625
01:46:20,399 --> 01:46:25,000
got to go all through the political
system in America. At least. We

1626
01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:29,439
need way more regulation you need Yes, let's go back, all right,

1627
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:35,399
well let's get back into it right
after this little pause. Okay, all

1628
01:46:35,479 --> 01:46:42,880
right, all right, Like every
is like like scientific journalists and like every

1629
01:46:43,039 --> 01:46:47,119
like really kind of Messa will refer
to the like it's like infinite growth as

1630
01:46:47,279 --> 01:46:50,319
like a fairy tale all the time, and they've been doing like ever since

1631
01:46:50,399 --> 01:46:54,720
last thing started, and it's laughable
to me that a lot of people should

1632
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:57,279
just repeated like it's a real thing. It's like no, they were like

1633
01:46:58,039 --> 01:47:00,520
they were saying that it's not real, that it is impossible to license state.

1634
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,960
We're like, where are we doing
and they were like no, yeah,

1635
01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:09,119
infinite growth. We gotta get bitch, you ain't Fortnite. Yeah,

1636
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:13,560
there's like three of those, and
like even the games like like Apex Legends,

1637
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,239
they're like panicking about that the guy
as close as any of you fuckers

1638
01:47:16,279 --> 01:47:19,880
are gonna get them. It just
seems like they might be done with Apex

1639
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:24,119
Legends. It seems like they are
looking toward the end and going there.

1640
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,479
Well, because then they have more
games in the pipeline for from respond at

1641
01:47:27,560 --> 01:47:31,359
least. Uh huh. Yet they
just turn the Boundy Hunter game into something

1642
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:39,119
else then, I mean that that
does happen with canceled games all the time,

1643
01:47:39,199 --> 01:47:43,920
right, That's what happened a Titan
Fall game. Then, well,

1644
01:47:44,199 --> 01:47:46,199
yeah, they have the like in
Tech two when you fight that guy at

1645
01:47:46,199 --> 01:47:49,720
the end, that that guy is
like a hunter type deal deal about him.

1646
01:47:50,319 --> 01:47:54,960
There's bounty hunters with jet packs of
guns in your sci fi universe also,

1647
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:57,920
just and just move it to that. Fine, Oh that would be

1648
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:02,520
cool. I want I'm so this
pointing on the Helldiver sht pack that I'm

1649
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:05,680
really I really need that in my
life now. Yeah, it's about the

1650
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,960
jet pack. Intel Divor is bad. That's not It's fine. I mean

1651
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,880
it's not like you don't fly with
it. That would be brill No,

1652
01:48:13,039 --> 01:48:15,079
you won't want to be broken.
What do you mean if you could just

1653
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:18,159
flying out there? I don't know
if you could fly for that a little

1654
01:48:18,199 --> 01:48:20,720
while all the time. Of course, if you want to play a game

1655
01:48:20,760 --> 01:48:26,680
a good jet pack, then you
should play Suicide Squads. All right,

1656
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:32,359
let's bring it back in alright.
We could have did this breakaway before this.

1657
01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,359
I was just saying, we'll always
like talking ship about the liblitarian she

1658
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:43,880
had is. But whatever, this
is the breakdown. Yeah, it's all

1659
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:48,239
included, all right. Listen,
if you want to stitch together however you

1660
01:48:48,319 --> 01:49:00,159
want, feel free. I'm not. I will not. He's not gonna

1661
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:04,600
cut himself out of the podcast.
Are you crazy? Exactly? This is

1662
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:11,479
content. I'm so excited. I'm
gonna watch Done tomorrow. It's just Dune.

1663
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,800
I got to rewatch Dune one.
Not that I'm like gonna get up

1664
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:18,560
to the movie theater anytime soon.
So good. But I want to see

1665
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:23,000
that movie real bad. Yeah,
that's why they don't have computers, because

1666
01:49:23,039 --> 01:49:28,560
the literarian she hat. Okay,
yeah, man, people, people are

1667
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:32,359
already talking about twenty seventeen, and
man, that's just gonna be a painful

1668
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:39,439
one to do. Why bob Ge
is gonna win, Like over my dead

1669
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,600
body, we know what's gonna win. It's a question of what the other

1670
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:45,439
jeeves will make the top five.
It will make the top five, Yeah,

1671
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,960
I know, because you'll die on
that hill. I will die on

1672
01:49:48,039 --> 01:49:53,640
it. You're gonna clip through and
then lose the game. Yeah. Oh

1673
01:49:53,840 --> 01:50:00,079
like that happened more than ten or
fifteen times. I don't remember. M

1674
01:50:00,199 --> 01:50:05,039
hm. I don't remember what happened
to me. I remember the car blowing

1675
01:50:05,159 --> 01:50:09,079
up for no reason. I don't
remember that. That was pretty good,

1676
01:50:09,199 --> 01:50:13,680
But that was funny. All right, let's save this conversation for next week,

1677
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:18,479
and let's talk about the Mantas,
the people that replaced the ulitarium because

1678
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:24,960
they didn't have computers, so they
trained the prosecute coming right back in now,