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The following is a presentation of Playfly
Sports Properties in Michigan State Sports Properties.

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Hey, everybody, good evening.
I like the dancing going on the Fellas

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Show. That it is Tuesday,
June twenty and twenty twenty three. I

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am your host, Jason Straehorn,
along with my co host Otis Wiley and

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Jayu che Cheo Culchritt and this is
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people are watching us over in the
Czech Republic over what they call it Chezia.

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Is that correct? Chootch you you
got see we got all kinds of

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places, Fellas. I'm surprised,
he was like, you know, I

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got family and you know, definitely
want we want to definitely give everybody guys

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a shout out because we asked for
it and we received it. We finally

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hit the one thousand subscriber mark on
YouTube, which is the hard one to

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get, as we all know,
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guys. What do you think about
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noise and applause noise. Yeah,
yeah, appreciate, appreciate everybody you know

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that you know push that pushed the
narrative for us to get to this point.

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You know, we always talk about
going back to you know on the

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I hop recording from an iPhone and
here we are. Yeah, I think,

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I think, uh, I think
on Thursday we need to like bring

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out that like clip for that footage
on phone. We should Happy birthday to

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Harriet, Harriet Birthday, Happy birthday. Here bus man my show from the

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guys. We got a jam packed
show because we know we got a special

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guest on a Spartan legend joins the
show. But right now we're going to

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talk a little bit about you know, we had something funny happen in the

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news. We talk about all things
college sports, and this thing was just

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it's not necessarily Michigan State related,
but something was too big for us to

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pass up. Austin Simmons commits to
own this, but he reclassifies from the

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twenty twenty five to twenty twenty three. The kid had a five point three

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four GPA. Hey, look,
I want him on my team Fellers,

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if you know what I mean?
Hey, like the math math because with

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that that's on it is that a
genius level? I don't know. Is

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that the that's the untapped education level
that we had now reached ever super seded.

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So I thought it was a silly
at least a four four three fourth,

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like four like g P a higher
than that, but a five three

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it's like, uh, that's a
Rhodes scholar in my book, unbelievable,

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like almost as good as you.
Right, I'm with Otis on that.

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It's like the mathing mathing. I
feel like I feel like I feel like

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I feel like that commitment should have
been like a Stanford right anti climactic Kiffin.

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Yeah, man, the sip.
Hey, you know what, this

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is a good question. This is
a good question for the group. Would

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you use a full right scholarship knowing
he's going to get at full right academic

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scholarship. I feel like if you're
in that threshold, like a full percent

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academic everything paid, like we used
that Scouys for somebody else, but you

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want me for full scout that he
won't he won't be able to get the

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meals. Oh that that changed that
everybody everybody, everybody, everybody al must

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leftover food. Everybody, everybody eats. They don't have like separate cafeterias anymore.

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Like like how bad it was back
then with us? Yeah, like

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I used to it. That was
so wrong. We had a bad And

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then we're gonna talk to our special
guests and he's gonna give you some stories.

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I guarantee you on what training table
used to be like to fire what

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it is today. We wanted to
have the tight start of the turn with

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training table like my junior year.
So when we started going to the restaurants

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and everything like that. What year
was that? Oh six six, that's

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yeah. Then it started to turn
because Uncle Craftsman didn't wants to give us

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young under I stayed giving people rides. You did you did? Hey?

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I think Harriet joined us late,
so we once again we want to say

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happy birthday to Harriet Dean. I
think she came on a little later,

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so she didn't hear the first one
birthday Harriet. Hey, look, Harry,

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Harry is always invited to the so
she gets the she gets it all.

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She gets that Stevie wonder Birthday to
Happy Birthday, happyday, every birthday.

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We got us. This is what
we do with this is fardays we

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sing happy Birthday to the loyal listeners
that this is what we had a birthday

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party from my daughter, oh Saturday, so we had to sing both versions.

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I guarantee your daughter was like,
uh, where's that baby? Sharp

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version bro the Liberian and the Canadian
saying it all as your baby girl,

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your birthday is the day before Father's
Day. Not so good for my younger

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son Cody, his birthday was on
Father's Day. He got short changed,

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you know, but still it was
a good birthday for him. That's the

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way it is, guys. We
got us a long snapper commitment of M

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s U. Drew Wilson the New
Commitment two. You love kickers. What

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do you feel about long snappers?
Long snappers, punk snapchoo punters. I

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like that for for that side of
things. We need the help in long

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snapping. Last year, our long
snapping was shaky at best, very shaky,

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and there's a lot that goes into
that. You know, the timing.

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You always you know otis you said
it last year when you can notice

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how important it was when coach Felino
always had that stopwatched. I mean those

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long snap I mean those punts and
everything like that. So it's a big

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part, you know, of everything, and that's something that get lost in

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the shuffle of everything. And we
felt that last year because we were hurt.

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Because you always preach win on all
three phases of the game, offense,

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defense, and special teams. It's
called special teams for a reason.

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You have to have some special talents
to play that position. So the long

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snapper, I'll welcome him in until
he snaps one over the punter's head or

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snaps one, you know, a
bad one for the field goal or something

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like that. Then he's off my
island. He's off your islands on the

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island because like, yeah, I
agree with you too. It is it's

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got to be the quickest snap and
get to for punt, get to field

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coverage right the punt. There's no
pressure because you can't touch the punter on

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any phases. Right, you can't
snapper. I'm sorry, you can't touch

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a punter. Either's rough and punk
kicker, right AnyWho? Sorry, no

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for the long snapper, you can't
touch him, so like there's no pressure.

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But in those tense moments, like
let's flash back to Indiana where the

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snap was good, right, the
snap was good, it's the kickers.

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So like you said, three phases. There's specialties offense defense, but there's

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phases in that long snap that holding
and then the kicker feel good. So

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it's gotta be smip snapping. I
always always ask why, you know he

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used to walk around just to kind
of look like he was doing something,

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and then you're I'll think it was
in the year he had the megaphone.

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He was yeah, yeah, talking
script like change change the periods. But

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yeah, to your point, good
grab. Like you said, long snappers

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are athletes now, man, so
let's see how he adjusted and adapts.

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I want to go that far,
hey man, take hey Pepper, you

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remember sack Rider. Like I said, I wouldn't go that far Pepper's I

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would give him. You know,
he he's he's making his thing in the

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league there. Also since he does
he make it there, you can make

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it for a year. You you
in, like, yeah, so I

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get it. Usually, like you
know, they're like old tight ends.

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You know that you know don't even
do anything. See my thing, They

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don't do anything. That's the thing. You know, Like they go out

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there, we're out there in individual
sweating doing things and they just kicking it

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on the sidelines. They're doing new
things. And then we had a long

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snapper when I was on scout team
my freshman year when I was red shirting.

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He'll always be like, hey,
hey, hey, chill, chill,

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chill, I'm working on a new
snap. I'm like, mother,

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you know how many new snaps are
that you snapping the ball fifteen yards or

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you're snapping at seven. That's it. Hey, this is the best ever

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if you want to get your home
roster than Pepper still there? He is?

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He is there a relation to table
Pepper, Hank Pepper. You know

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we got sure peers. Give us
one of our subscribers, you know,

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you know, you know Tony gg
Or, Trevor Trevor who was on our

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who follow us, they know all
the answers. Yeah, Tom, all

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guys, get the guys. We
gotta get to move on to Draymond Green

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declines his option with the Warriors.
What does that say about Draymond's future with

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the Warriors next year? I don't
make enough money being that that bracket to

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be talking about discussions and turning down
the millions of dollars. So that's a

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different conversation. I'm like, do
what you do best, because clearly if

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you turn that down, you know
for a fact that you gotta you gotta

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Ballard, the number one agent in
the game, Rich Paul and some other

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suitors out there is probably gonna give
him more. So I just I feel

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like, now there's a strategically business
move, support him whatever. But we

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did see the Warriors new GM come
out and say, hey, we absolutely

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have to have Draymond here. We
have to do our best to get him

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and keep him here. So he
has show showed value and worse, and

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he's not just you know, a
guy that's gonna you know, beat Draymond

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like he is a great facilitator,
a great teammate. If you turn out

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that money, like obviously just a
bigger picture, there's a plan. So,

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like I said, I'm not at
liberty to be talking about millions of

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dollars because you know, I ain't. I ain't up there making that.

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But it's it's it's a little you
can talk about it. I can talk

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about it, but I ain't about
it, but you know, I think,

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you know, I set this back
when the Warriors were in the playoffs.

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I think Draymond's tenured with the Warriors. It's you know, coming to

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a close and you two are like, oh man, you you you guys

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acted like you were in that scene
from Eddie from Coming to America when he

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said he ran into doctor Martin Luther
King. Man, you ain't never really

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know that's the King. That's how
you guys acted like that when I said

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that. But here we go.
I think, you know, he he

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he wants obviously, I think at
the end of the day, he wants

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to stay in Golden He wants to
stay a Warrior. I think, you

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know, should he stay a Warrior? Yes, I think, you know,

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cementing his career, you know,
with one team that his entire career,

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it just adds to it. You
know, there's only a few guys

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that have done that, and so
if he you know, he wants to

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do that. But I think there's
some you know, different opportunity. I

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think that chemistry was lost with the
team, and there was even they even

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he even said it, you know, once he knocked out Jordan Poole,

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all the trust on that team was
gone. How can you get that back?

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They just re up Jordan Poole.
So he's gonna be there for a

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while. Is there room for both
of them there? You know, he

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was in France on Sunday with one
Lebron James, you know out there here

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we go right here in France on
some day with Lebron. Lebron's trying to

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recruit guys to LA right now.
It's a short trip, you know.

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So I think, you know,
I love Draymond. I think like his

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his time, his tenure, maybe
running out in Golden State with some of

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the antics and everything like that,
like you know, getting ejected, you

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know, suspensions, you know,
the friction within the team. The trust

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is gone. And even the GMS
said, you know, they would still

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be playing, but even Steve Kerr
said the trust was gone once he knocked

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out Jordan Poole. So I think
there's gonna be you know, I don't

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think, you know, like it's
it's as cut and dry that Draymond's gonna

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be back in Golden State. Hey, you know, my favorite part of

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that picture is that Lebron and Draymond
are where they at France and they're incognito

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with those bucket hats and sunglasses,
just so you know, like that,

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no one they stand up and walk
around France, the streets of San Trope.

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No one knows who those guys in
the buckinghatching class. That's looked like

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a nice little stogy in his hand. Too great? Right? Have you

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ever bet see your brother play the
mandol ay for one Spartan legend. Hey,

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look we're gonna have We're gonna have
an incredible running back one of the

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guys. You two things the godfather
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can? Can you guys hear us
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yep, yep, go ahead,
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number thirty four, you know,
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sin and that was right there.
Look at this. I feel like I

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feel like I feel like mister Zoe
was was a child's Marsha Lynz Whit joins

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this is started as you. Welcome
to the show. Rin. So how

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you doing, brother, I'm good. What's going on? Fellas well?

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Congratulations to you because just yesterday we
learned that you are now a newly inductive

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member to the Michigan Sports Hall of
Fame. About time. Good job and

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congratulations on that. Thank you guys
very much. You know, I don't

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know, I'm I think I'm finding
running out of shells to put stuff on.

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In January, I was voted to
the the Rose Bowl Hall of Fame.

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So you know, so I'm happy
for them all, you know,

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yeah, absolutely, and uh,
you know it's it's such a great,

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you know, honor to have you
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a you know, running back myself
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State. When you come into Michigan
State, you know, the first thing

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you hear about it, you know, you talk there's the greats, but

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there's Lorenzo White, you know,
unmistakenly undoubtedly you know the best to to

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you know, lined up in the
backfield like Michigan say you talked to I

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remember we're in Seattle when we played
against Washington, and you know, we're

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in a room there and TJ.
Duckett was there and I was like,

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Dug, you know, like,
who do you say the top three you

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know running backs in Michigan's history,
And he, without a doubt, you

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know, the Godfather's number one,
Lorenzo. You know that everybody knows and

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feels that, and it's just a
you know, like it's so cool to

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have you, you know, to
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group, you know as someone like
you. And so you you had you

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know a lot of you know,
great you know, great, a great

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career in Michigan State. But let's
talk about a little bit like the longevity.

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carries, you know, how did
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and like physical that you can go
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I just think you know when you
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when you when you're young, that's
all you want to do is carry the

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football, you know, and and
making that decision to go to Michigan State.

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If you had to ask anybody,
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everybody had me pegged to go to
Georgia because of heirshel Walker and the

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things that he did and the things
that Georgia do with the running backs and

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being down south. You know,
when I went to Michigan State, man,

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it was just one of them things. I mean, like it just

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like it felt good when I went
to go visit felt like that was my

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place, you know. You know
we talked about all the all the star

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running bikes that went to all the
universities. So I wanted to have my

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own litt niche when I went to
Michigan State. And you know, instead

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of going there and say, Hirshwalker
and Lorenz are white, my thing is

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I wanted to go to Michigan State
and be the man. Hmm. Yeah,

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see that's that's that's what you said, be the man because that's like

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at that point I say unconventional choice, because I mean everybody grew up watching

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Hershel Walker, and I see you
steps of like, hey, you know

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they're gonna pay respect and give you
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of the ball. But for you
to come here and wear the green of

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white. I try to find a
picture. I was in Texas water raising

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austin my class base. I think
it was third third grade. I mean,

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I ain't trying to you the O
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State I have the I had the
Lorenzo White jersey. My parents will flipped

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though, right, so I had
the Lorenzo White jersey in my class picture

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and not knowing that I was gonna
be playing Mischigan State. I need to

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find it. I need to put
on social but I want to said,

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look, I grew up watching watch
y'all man, so uh talk about just

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talk about just staying around and being
around the program. You know, you

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did so much for the Green of
White. And we had one of your

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your your teammates and Tony Manderts on
last was that last week two weeks fly

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by. We have a lot of
guests ago two Thursdays go man, look

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content baby's going good. But he
about that team and full of characters,

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but full of like just outstanding stud
athletes. But y'all are at your family,

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our brothers. But talk about that
that Rose Bowl game, but like

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having all of that high quality talent, you at the running back, you

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had to ride receivers, you had
Tony, just talk about just that that

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whole role with that team there,
well you know and coming you know,

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like I said, that's that's that
bond you know when your teammates you that.

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I mean, you you know,
we came in and we had been

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through a lot, and you know, that was one of the one of

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our goals was to go, you
know, go on. And I mean

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I'm talking about not just one person
but all everybody. That team goal.

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My thing was, you know,
you know, to try to get to

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that Rose Bowl and uh, oh
good there you go, can you yeah?

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Yeah, when you when when you're
when you're a family, and man,

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it was just I mean it was
just so good, you know,

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the fellowship and to hang out with
those guys and you know, to grow

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with those guys. So and you
guys know because you guys, you know,

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I mean and come, you know, bond hang out. Well,

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I think we're having some technical difficulties
there, all right, Yeah, yeah,

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yep, you're back. Yeah,
So you know, I was just

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saying that. I mean, you
guys know how important it is, you

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know when you first get to college
and and everybody bonds together. So and

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that's just what we did, you
know, and uh my last year was

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just great, you know that.
I mean for us to get a chance

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to go playing mm hmm yeah,
and then showing it right here that nineteen

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eighty eight Rose Bowl looking lines roses
the rest loo what it looked like watching

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this, uh, this type of
television with the pixels you know when you

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play it's different than the high definition
right right now? Oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, oh it's different. But in all seriousness, man

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like, let's talk about you your
recruitment out of dialing high. I mean

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down there for a lot of you
know, you got a lot of talent

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down in South Folk. Oh yeah, a whole lot of talent. How

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that was George Burlis able to come
down there, because that's the coach GP,

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that was your man. How was
he able to come down and get

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you up to Michigan State? I
think coming back, you know, I

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was a big motivator, you know, of myself, you know, and

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things that I wanted to accomplish,
you know, so I set my goal

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is kind of high. So and
then when he came down, he just

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made made it you know certain that
oh I can do all the things that

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I want. And if I if
I come here, if I come to

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Michigan State, They're gonna do everything
in their power for me to try to

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obtain it. You know, the
most important thing, you know for me

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was to you know, come there
and win. But you know I always

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had the Housemo Trophy on my mind
to win it, not once but twice.

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So I just you know, we
talked about we talked about herschel Walker,

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you know, and the things that
he did, you know, so

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you know, saying your goal was
high when I came in and he was

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right there, Purvis was right there
on the side of me, you know,

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helping me and you know feed me
the rock too. Yeah, you

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got to ride like something. I
remember Javan and I talking like man so

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used to be getting the ball like
forty times a game and here we're struggling

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to flip the tender you know,
twenty carries in the game between the both

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of us there and you were just
eating. It wasn't easy. And you

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forgot you forgot who I had that
why right? You know I have a

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brother, you know I have and
when it all happens, when it when

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it all happens, you know,
I just think that's what that's what it

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comes down to, like, you
know, when you you got your brother,

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you know, and that's one thing
that me and Dre did. It

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was just one of those things.
You know, we ran the ball a

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lot, but you did. H
Yeah, that was that. That was

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absolute lethal combination there, you know. And you know, just looking back

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at you know, all those uh
guys that you had to you had Tony

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men Rich running the picture that you
had, Andrew Rising that you had you

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know yourself there just a just a
team and you know that's one of those

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offenses. Not enough ball to go
around. You know, everyone was deadly.

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It's all good man. But like
we can talk about it, like

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yeah, for sure, but like
I want to I want to just go

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back, like I wish we had
miked up in like offensive huddle, right,

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all those personalities of like when the
call comes in and be like Dre

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Andrew Rising, like no, I
throw me the ball, like get me

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the rock. You know, I
want to They had one of those,

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right, like a movie Miles like
give movie the ball right right. It's

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so uh you know that that's one
of the big things because I you know,

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like I said, you know,
we're sitting in there, we're talking

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to you know, coach ENO's about
and some of the older guys that when

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they come back and just talk about
those days and like the the legacy you

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know that those guys brought and a
guy like Lorenzo and it's you know,

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like I said, it's good to
see him. You know, every season

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you know he's back. You know, he's back at Spartan Stadium watching the

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games and everything like that, you
know, coming back. It's really cool

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to see. I do know.
You know I was chasing them, chasing

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them for that my senior year,
you know, but it's it's so cool

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to be you know, he's one. I'm number two you know in that

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book there. So it's it's you
know, sounds like your one that was

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your one up, just the same
one. Now. No, no,

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I just remember going on, you
know, talking to him, you know,

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and I see you have thirty nine. Yeah yeah, so you you

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are a humiation. He was like, come on man, yeah yeah,

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yeah. It's is Lorenzo at forty
three, Jay Lane for the forty this

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is touchdowns career touchdown you at thirty
nine. So the single season, Jay

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Lane for pass you up that year
and every bro it was that Rosebow year,

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wasn't it, Jeffy? He didn't
you didn't catch you, you know,

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career career here. Uh you know
you're talking about you know, I

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just I mean, I just enjoy
you know, just watching I mean all

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you guys, you know play My
thing was you know one thing I do.

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I do believe. I believe Green
And at the end of the day,

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when it comes to when it comes
to the yardist, I mean,

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all of them, Le'Veon, you
know, man, Devon, I mean,

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come on, I mean, we
just we can just keep going.

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I love I mean, I love
my school for that. You know,

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we could say running by you too. Yeah, brothers, It's a lot,

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right, And that's I mean,
and that's what it's about. You

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know. Lorenzo, when we had
Tony man Rich on the show and we

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talked about the Rose Bowl for him, he said, like it was more

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rewarding clinching against Indiana for that Big
Ten title than the Rose Bowl. Is

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that the same for you man?
That I mean, the Rose Bowl was

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the Rose Bowl. But at the
end of the day, that game at

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Indiana, when you had, like
everybody, oh, I feel like the

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content guys, on's it start getting
good? Tell them everywhere you go this

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video, turn his video, turn
your video. He's good. He's good,

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He's good. Okay, Yeah,
yeah, So no, turn the

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video off and I think the audio
would be straight. But oh man,

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I was getting that. We gotta
get them all for sorg. Hey,

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this is not podcast. Maybe we're
gonna deal with it. You're gonna come

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back. But like like you guys
was talking about right there, you know

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you want to deal with he said
running back you was that something that you

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thought about too when when you were
were getting recruited? Yeah. Absolutely,

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That's one of the reasons you know, I did go to Michigan State is

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because one they like big backs.
You know, you got Lorenzo with some

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baked back. You know, t
J. Duckett was a big back.

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You know Le'Veon Bell was a big
back. You know all those the lights,

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big bruising back in the Big ten
there, and uh, you know

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that that is exactly one of the
reasons that when it's that lineage, you

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know of running the football and having
you know, those kind of you know,

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the opportunity to want playing the Big
ten and then two you know,

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you know you're going to run the
ball, you know, because that's how

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you win football games, especially in
November in the Big Ten. No doubt

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about it. Man, what you're
thinking of? Man, Look I want

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to know, like the full recruiting
pitch like back then too, was the

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video of like hey Alhamas to the
running back greats like Mount Rushmore running of

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running backs and it's like you if
you come here, you can be your

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Punton knowledge. At that time,
what were they truly talking like straight out

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when you got there, they yeah, big bax, But like, what

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was the full pitch though? So
you know, you know, my recruit

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guy was my recruiting coach was Jeff
Stoutland and Mugie Mitchell. No, no,

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no, so Stoutland, you know, he's an offensive line coach.

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Offensive line coaches want to run the
football. And then so he's talking about

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you know, all these guys,
these greats you know that that you know,

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walked the halls and did all that
you know at Michigan State. And

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then we did go to the running
backs room with Reggie Mitchell and they had

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highlights you know, and it started, you know, it started with a

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different music. It was like music
by era, you know, it was

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like different music. Like they had
highlights of Lorenzo, you know, all

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those other guys, you know,
Cedric, you know all this, and

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then the music started going changing different
as we got to Newark's and then the

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hip hop started coming in. You
know when they show TJ. Ducket,

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they had a little John Flowers all
those guys. It was just like a

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cool transition into and then at the
end of the ape it just said you're

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next, you know kind of thing, and then could you not want to

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and then instead would your music be
say ticket from Remember what I said.

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We got to hear that one more
time before we go. Yeah, So

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if you like you guys, I
know we've we've talked about this as running

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backs and this is you know,
like I tell you know, talk to

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you know, Javaon about this,
you know, talk to t J.

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Duckett about this, and I've asked
them, you know, rate your top

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00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.559
top five running backs at Michigan State, you know, of all time,

408
00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.240
and you know it's you. Why
is it? Like? What did I

409
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:04.279
do? I'm trying to have a
co inquir reminds us one to know to

410
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:07.199
like how to trying to get I'm
trying to I'm trying to get as you

411
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:14.719
like you rate. I feel like
as a per personal if I'm I'm putting

412
00:34:14.760 --> 00:34:17.239
myself in the top five, I
definitely put myself. I put myself.

413
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.639
Yeah, that's what he's asking.
He said, are you trying to get

414
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.880
there to say? You know,
I didn't say, you know, you're

415
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:30.840
not You're not. The thing is
this? The thing is this? Let

416
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:37.440
me tell you this. I think
all I think the three of us left

417
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:43.000
K nine off the top five?
Why one year? Because it was the

418
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.199
one here talking about body of work. If you go, if you go

419
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:53.559
top seasons like start like Spartan,
guys that started freshman year to him leaving

420
00:34:53.639 --> 00:35:01.199
the program, I get you in
this whole era right here. Oh absolutely,

421
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.559
no, no, no, no, I'm just saying. I'm saying,

422
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:07.719
like, if you look, I'm
where everyone's like looking at the full

423
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.199
body of work. You know that
kind of thing. If if you go

424
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:15.079
one season K nines up there,
you know for one of the best seasons,

425
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:20.119
he's probably two for one of the
best seasons, you know, I

426
00:35:20.199 --> 00:35:23.599
mean, does that one season cover
like multitude of three three seasons because he

427
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:29.159
went off on the year. I
mean, what he did to Michigan alone,

428
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.280
you gotta allowed you have to.
I'm just letting you know what happened.

429
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.960
What was said in the running back. I hear you. You think

430
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:39.400
we can agree that you know what
was said in the running, I just

431
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.320
top five rappers alive. I thought
it was gonna be like to to to

432
00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:50.280
to. I'm not like and and
don't get me. See now people are

433
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.159
saying, like, I already know
what's gonna happen. It's gonna get out

434
00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:57.519
there. Jay, you didn't doesn't
think k Nines one of the best backs

435
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:00.559
to come out, and that is
not true. I was where you're talking,

436
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.159
career, body of work at Michigan
State. Just putting that out there

437
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:13.119
so before everyone starts jumping in the
comments and trying to get at your boy,

438
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.480
man, you know, have a
social media clip over for sure.

439
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.480
Back here, you guys touched on
a little bit. When you talk about

440
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.199
I'm gonna ask here, it comes
right here because hey, low, we

441
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:32.440
gotta get right here. We're trying
like you got some great stories, man,

442
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:35.880
I've been, you know, hanging
out with you for a long time,

443
00:36:36.480 --> 00:36:40.880
Like the story can you tell a
story about Andre? The practice with

444
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:57.960
the neck roll? So we're we're
coming to precedent. Andre was just bed

445
00:36:58.119 --> 00:37:01.559
up right at this point, you
know, not getting not getting the ball

446
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.519
that much. So he was like, oh, I'm just I'm just gonna

447
00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:08.119
be a blocker. I'm just gonna
be a blocker, right, So,

448
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:14.039
uh, we come out with practice
and he got old. Uh he got

449
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.480
on gl he got on Glood live
and glood. He got a neck brace.

450
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.000
He run out and everybody laughing,
right and and and GPC right,

451
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:31.599
Oh my god, GP lost it. I'm talking about like, I don't

452
00:37:31.639 --> 00:37:38.239
know how many customords he got in
that one. And what are you doing?

453
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:49.239
You're trying to be funny, get
yours? Take that, And I'm

454
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:54.079
talking about he walked the ball.
I'm talking about gpcus andre all the way.

455
00:37:54.519 --> 00:38:06.079
He went into locker room and came
back with well, you know,

456
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:10.119
but you know when I when I
when I think about when I think about

457
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:14.760
George, you know, and I
look at all the things that he did.

458
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:22.079
But it's only feeling that he can
do that because anytime you gotta you

459
00:38:22.199 --> 00:38:29.360
gotta imagine his job in the pros
with the Pittsburgh Stealers. You got you

460
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.320
got White, you got mean Joe
green, you got SZ Greenwood, And

461
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:36.719
you know how you know how you
know how it is when we in our

462
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.239
meets and when they're getting on the
coach. So what what do you think?

463
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.920
What do you think? How I
mean, I would have just gave

464
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:47.440
anything to just see George in the
in one of those meetings like with Pittsburgh,

465
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:57.239
you know, with a still curtain. Yeah, and you know you

466
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.239
call my personality. Oh my god, that was like I mean because white,

467
00:39:01.320 --> 00:39:05.199
Oh my god. He I mean, he is a character if you

468
00:39:05.239 --> 00:39:09.519
ain't never met him, I mean
I'm talking about I mean that guy's I

469
00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:13.519
mean, I just I got when
I when I heard and I talked with

470
00:39:13.639 --> 00:39:17.360
him, I said, I would
just give any any anytime just to see

471
00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:21.760
him in the meeting with you guys. So but that I guess you know

472
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:24.239
when you when you when you and
the meaning and you you know, you

473
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:28.880
got those type of guys in your
stay with I mean, you can handle

474
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:32.400
anything, you know, So I
respect them, you know, I respect

475
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:37.559
the things that he did. You
know how he handled me, you know,

476
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:39.599
because I mean it wasn't you know. When I first got there,

477
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.519
he was like, I could start
you, like I could start you right

478
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.719
now, he said, But I
want to I want to get your feet

479
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:52.239
wet. I want to get your
feet Where you did and everything that you

480
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:54.320
did, you deserve two stars,
but I just want you to get your

481
00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.920
feet wet. Because I don't want
you to fail, you know, and

482
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.760
that's how he had under me.
So with that, with that there,

483
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:05.039
you know, coming in as a
kid, you know, with the mindset

484
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:08.079
you want to win two heismans,
did you take it as you know like

485
00:40:08.760 --> 00:40:15.079
or were you like pissed off about
it? No? I mean because once

486
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:20.320
I mean it's like you gotta understand, you know, when the only person

487
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.239
could put me in the game with
GP, so I gotta stand next to

488
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.159
him, right so you I never
know when I'm going going in the game.

489
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.519
But once I go in the game, that's it. It ain't no

490
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:42.320
more throwing. I'm getting the ball
every time. So and the crazy part,

491
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:49.400
and the crazy part was you know
in that you know, I kind

492
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.000
of understand. I kind of understood
as we went on, you know,

493
00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.719
I get in there, and I
mean I remember, like the second game,

494
00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:01.280
live second game. I'll never ever
forget that. Well, the first

495
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:07.800
game we go to Colorado, were
playing Colorado and I don't do nothing.

496
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.760
I mean, I just get the
ball, just run straight, don't do

497
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:15.119
anything special. So I'm on the
plane all the way from Colorado to Michigan,

498
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.760
I'm like cussing and fussing myself out. Oh you sorry, you ain't

499
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:24.960
do nothing. You got the ball. So I said, Lord, if

500
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:31.079
you, I promised you, if
you, and that chance was the next

501
00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:35.119
week when we played against Notre Dame, I said, everybody gonna know my

502
00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:40.480
name. We get to uh we
Now, Colorado was small. I mean

503
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:45.239
it was like forty some thousand,
and then we played we played not to

504
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:49.360
Dame home, so it was like
eighty some thousand, right, So I'm

505
00:41:49.440 --> 00:41:51.320
like, man, it's a lot
of people that was like this is nothing.

506
00:41:51.400 --> 00:41:54.360
Wait the next week, man,
I came out and I'm talking about

507
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:57.360
were playing against No. The Dame. And you know how it is when

508
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:59.760
you play against how we play against
No. The Dame, it's I mean,

509
00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:07.239
everybody, we had Coach Buck and
man Coach Buck. Coach Coach Buck,

510
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:13.639
I love him to death. I
bean. Coach Buck told us,

511
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:15.719
I mean one of the linemen came
in late because they said they had class.

512
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:19.400
He said, no, it's no
class, it's no class. During

513
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:36.400
the week we played Michiganday brought up
Coach Buck and he talked, that's the

514
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:39.400
whole line coach at the time,
right right, listen, listen. If

515
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:46.400
I mean like the coach I mean, if you've ever seen birds, Birds,

516
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.880
Meritis and Rocky, that's that's Coach
Buck all day. I'm talking about

517
00:42:52.920 --> 00:43:00.039
Hero, that's what he's and I'm
talking about you know, I gotta tell

518
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.360
you about the other. Okay,
it's another time. Okay, so we

519
00:43:04.440 --> 00:43:10.039
get ready to plug in. Uh
Illinois souh go up? He everybody you

520
00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:22.719
ready to play? You ready?
You know what? Wow? Yeah,

521
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:37.079
m that's that stort of good and
gets slapped. Yeah, Andre gets slapped

522
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.800
right, and then he just Andre
was like everybody looking at what he's gonna

523
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.719
say. I mean, he started
crying. Next thing I knew, Andre

524
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:54.800
just got up. We're all just
seats, you know what we want to

525
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:58.840
I feel like we want to get
when he come up. We gotta we

526
00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.000
gotta do a lot with you.
Gotta do a live with him because like

527
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:06.000
that's gonna be that's gonna be really
lit when he comes out. My gosh,

528
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.519
man, that's tough. Like it
was good. That's a good.

529
00:44:13.199 --> 00:44:20.119
Yeah. I know this too.
Was you were you there when coach came

530
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:27.559
he brought him back? No,
man, you experienced it. Huh oh

531
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.679
man, we were sitting up there. This is no this might have been

532
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.960
John L. Though because we were
in the old it wasn't was it was

533
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:39.079
seven because we were we well I
was there old seven the new facility,

534
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:45.119
so we have well seven after the
like that, Uh what is it eight

535
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.360
springs? So he's gone because because
we were in the old meeting room like

536
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:53.000
where we used to be open up. But yeah, and I remember him

537
00:44:53.079 --> 00:44:57.960
coming up and I kept when he
was talking, I could stop staring at

538
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.639
this. This is so bad,
but rest the piece coach, but couch

539
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.760
Buck. But he had just those
strands of hair over his hair, and

540
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:09.320
he was like you could tell he
was trying to talk like a good coaching

541
00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:13.760
like pregame speech. This is for
spring game too, like spring game O

542
00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.760
eight And uh, we knew he
was a legend, but it was one

543
00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:22.519
of those things when coach he was
bringing back history, right, like coming

544
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:25.599
back and connecting the back. Uh. But to his point, his his

545
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:30.159
uh, his speech was so high
intensity that I was gonna pass out.

546
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:39.360
Yeah he don't pass out, that
he would yeah, ditchers would come out,

547
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:45.119
I mean do something else. Like
he was really really really an intensity.

548
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:49.320
He was all American as a player, and and uh it was a

549
00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.159
great coach, longtime coach in Michigan
State. But yeah, that Coach Buck

550
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:57.440
is definitely a treasure or national treasure
that most of them won't get a chance

551
00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.000
to see. Uh, but I
don't know. We can try to bring

552
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:05.679
Low on one more time to see
if the connection is there. Let's try

553
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:13.840
one more time. Let's see where
we at. There he is you guys

554
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:19.880
by we hear it. We try
to work through the connection. Man,

555
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:23.760
Well, we're gonna try one more
time. Yeah, yeah, I heard,

556
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:30.000
yeah, I heard what you said
about just story about Coach Buck.

557
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.599
But one thing that I really,
really really love him. I love about

558
00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:38.760
Coach Buck is that do you know
all of those plays? I mean,

559
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:45.519
like even when after my after my
freshman year, he came up with the

560
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:52.079
two thirty eight tail by draw right, and he was like, we're gonna

561
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:55.840
do this because Rensey that's what he
called me. He said, what Rinsey,

562
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:59.159
gon what he's gonna do? We
don't know where he's going anyway,

563
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.679
so we just let him start one
way and he can do what he want

564
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:05.719
to do. Right. And when
he put that, when he put that,

565
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:09.239
he put that play in and we
played against Iowa. Iowa had the

566
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:15.000
number one, the number one defense
in the country, right, that one

567
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:20.960
play that's one player, and we
always ran toss thirty eight, but that

568
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:25.400
that play, that two thirty two
thirty eight draw that went for two hundred

569
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:30.039
and twenty six yards and it could
have been more, you know, But

570
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:36.519
all he did, all that coach
did. He lived in ate football.

571
00:47:37.599 --> 00:47:40.679
You know. I'm passing by the
room one day and I can see the

572
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.960
lights was off and I keep hearing
the family jet that keep going and stopping

573
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.559
right, So I was like,
dang, who in there? So it

574
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.639
was coach Buck. So I walked
in there. He was like, he

575
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.039
was like, hey, Renjie,
how you doing. I said, I'm

576
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:58.840
doing. Fire Coach, what's going
on? You all right? He said

577
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.719
no, he said, I'm pissed
off at the I'm pissed off at the

578
00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:06.280
fore hoole. I said, what's
wrong with the four hole? He was

579
00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:10.800
like, he took every one of
the plays right, each one of the

580
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:16.000
plays. He let me know how
many yards we got in each one of

581
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.599
the holes, and he said we're
not being productive in the four hole?

582
00:48:25.480 --> 00:48:29.719
Like like who does that? Like
like come on, like you know I'm

583
00:48:29.719 --> 00:48:32.639
talking about he thee broke it all
down? Like how many yards I done?

584
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:36.639
Got from each one of those holes, right, and he said,

585
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:39.800
we're not being productive in the fore
hoole. I was like, Coach,

586
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:45.599
well, I mean, oh,
like I thought it was fine, you

587
00:48:45.679 --> 00:48:49.559
know, I said, Coach,
I mean you're talking about we're on the

588
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:52.239
road, but almost were on the
road at that time. It was like

589
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:58.079
almost what I had like what like
maybe like sixteen hundred yards right, and

590
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:06.719
we still have more guns a few
more games to go. That was yeah,

591
00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.039
that was you know, that was
yeah. So I mean that's because

592
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:15.840
they broke up, Like who slap
Rising? They want to know Coach Bunk

593
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:22.159
slapped Rising? He would getting you
know that when he slapped Rising. I

594
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:25.800
mean when he slapped and I just
grabbed his face and everybody was like oh

595
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:30.519
and nobody know what what what response
that I was going to have, right

596
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:45.000
I I do you wipe the everybody
ran out and everybody, like I'm talking

597
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:47.400
about, we ran out that door. I was like, man, everybody

598
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:50.599
thought he was just going to fight
coach. But I was like, oh

599
00:49:50.760 --> 00:50:08.519
no, he said right, Like, but I mean, but it's it's

600
00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.239
it's like it I mean, it's
just like so many it's like so many

601
00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.000
stories because you know, it's like, remember I just told you about the

602
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:21.480
about the forehole, right, So
when we went to practice, so if

603
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.119
you can picture me lining up with
a full back there and Coach Buck sitting

604
00:50:24.280 --> 00:50:30.480
like he's right behind the person at
the forehole who's at the guard. He's

605
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:34.760
sitting right there. So coach Pearlers
get mad and say, Buck get out

606
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:39.239
of there. Coach Buck tall.
Coach Pearlers tell Buck, Buck get out

607
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.760
of there. He said, don't
worry about it, George, I got

608
00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:49.519
to get some production out of this
forehole. Coachler cork Pearl saying okay,

609
00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:53.599
okay. So he got he getting
mad. So Buck gets mad and go

610
00:50:53.719 --> 00:50:59.719
and slap because uh, I forget
who it was jumped outside. So when

611
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:02.639
he when he slapped him, he
cut his fingers. He I mean when

612
00:51:02.679 --> 00:51:06.599
he slapped, he hit it.
I'm talking about he swung like I'm talking

613
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.320
about. He swung and hit the
helmet like he had on pads, right,

614
00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:15.239
and he cut his hand and it
opened up. So because prothers had

615
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.519
walked away and then they was like
he was like, get out of there.

616
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:23.960
I'm talking about he dripping blood.
I'm talking about blood running blood hand

617
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:28.800
right, So but he but he
won't leave. He won't he won't get

618
00:51:28.840 --> 00:51:30.400
out of practice. So Sally was
like, let me, let me just

619
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.119
put Sally and Jaff was like,
let me put some tape around it,

620
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:45.159
you know, just put some tape
on it, right, So so so

621
00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:46.880
Prothers come over there. So Pretherce
like, Buck, get out of there.

622
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.159
We're not gonna run another play until
you get your hands, until you

623
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:58.039
get your hands wrapped up, so
Sally. So Sally was taking you know

624
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:00.519
how they got to clean it out, and they gotta clean it all out,

625
00:52:00.719 --> 00:52:02.840
so they were taking their time.
She put the armpment on it and

626
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.480
this and that. So of course
Buck got made and just grabbed the tape

627
00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:09.880
and just tok the table to start
wrapping around his hand right with no balls,

628
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:16.440
no nothing right cocheray, I don't, I don't believe it. He

629
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:22.880
said, just go ahead and know
what you want to do. Ter minding.

630
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:28.599
He's taking that white tape right and
jes I'm talking about they don'et wipe

631
00:52:28.639 --> 00:52:30.199
it all and they were taking too
long to put it on. So he

632
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:37.719
just grabbed a white table and start
he did his whole hand like wrapping out

633
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:42.159
of the plight. I'm talking about
his hand was black as mind because he

634
00:52:42.239 --> 00:53:07.760
had to cut off the circulations right
here, and he sa, yeah,

635
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:12.239
save, save and have Buck come
to Alabama all the time. But was

636
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:15.199
there like man and talked to the
talked to the t all the time.

637
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:27.159
Hey, I wonder how many times
Coach Buck slapped in his career? Okay,

638
00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.239
so okay, so okay, we're
gonna tell you one. That one

639
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:34.920
wasn't related to football. But it
was a football class. You know how

640
00:53:34.960 --> 00:53:37.639
the coaches you had a football class. All the students come in coming to

641
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.360
uh coming to class, right,
yeah, yeah, football class, coach

642
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:50.119
take so oh, Coach Buck came
in right, So he got mad,

643
00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.320
he said as soon as he walked
in, he said, what's going on

644
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:58.119
in here? He was like,
because no football player wasn't in the front.

645
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.599
So he said, no, all
the football players go to the front,

646
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:05.800
right. Hey, hey, all
the kids, y'all ship by y'all

647
00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:07.519
ship back. The football need football
players need to sit in the front,

648
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:12.760
right. So John Buddy was sitting
in the front, right. So he

649
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:16.360
was talking about the night that he
was colding. He was talking about reactions,

650
00:54:17.199 --> 00:54:23.239
right. So then he slapped John
Buddy like he was talking to he

651
00:54:23.440 --> 00:54:27.280
was talking. He was talking to
the class and you know in more class,

652
00:54:27.360 --> 00:54:30.679
you know, and more more people
that came into the football class because

653
00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:34.360
they want to know about the program
in football. So he slapped, uh,

654
00:54:34.679 --> 00:54:36.880
he slapped John Buddy in the front. Right. He was like,

655
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:38.320
you know, he said, he
was just sitting and I said, y'all,

656
00:54:38.519 --> 00:54:42.920
you know your reflexes and all that. He said, he was telling

657
00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:45.440
something about reflexing. He said,
you know, and then he slapped.

658
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:50.320
John said he I'm talking. He
slapped and knock this hell. Everybody,

659
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:55.840
everybody in the class. Everybody in
the class. People they were like,

660
00:54:55.880 --> 00:55:02.519
oh my god, that's what he
do. The people I'm talking about knowing

661
00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:06.239
people, I mean like the people
that was in the class, they were

662
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:07.519
like, oh my god. They
was like scared. They were like,

663
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:12.280
I'm glad he made us get to
the back. Get to the back.

664
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.159
I'm talking about. Man, we
could we could, We could talk all

665
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:19.639
day with about coach Bucket. The
day that he do. You know,

666
00:55:22.320 --> 00:55:31.440
old school coaching right right, you
did. Somebody talked about playing basketball and

667
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:39.199
said Andre was I am wes,
Oh my god, how many fights you

668
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:46.760
mean, how many fights we got? Yuse? Because Andre gonna take the

669
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:57.119
game over. I don't care.
I don't care what he does, right,

670
00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:00.239
I don't care what time he goes. I'm talking about he. I

671
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:05.239
mean he going hard. He I
mean he'll kill her he's doing when he

672
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:09.639
playing basketball. He's serious about that
now he and you can't tell him.

673
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:13.719
You know when when Joe let him
play, when he played on the t

674
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:15.159
Oh my god, that was it. We ain't hit the last of that.

675
00:56:21.159 --> 00:56:24.400
So but you gotta know Andre and
Andre ran track, Eddie played basketball.

676
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:30.119
So I guess tell that's three sports
at Michigan State. Yes, So

677
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:34.760
before if some people wanted not like, you know, your career at Michigan

678
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.960
State, you know, after that, then you got drafted by the Houston

679
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.239
Oilers. What was that feeling like
and what was it like, you know

680
00:56:40.400 --> 00:56:45.079
now going to you know, playing
in Houston. Mm hmm. Well,

681
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.960
I mean, you know, like
I said, you said, goals high.

682
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:52.760
You know, I'm I'm sitting there
on draft day, right, so

683
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:58.320
I'm like, okay, we go
all the way we go down to I

684
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:04.599
say, well, after after Pittsburgh
select and they I think Pittsburgh had the

685
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:10.119
number ten pick, so they took
they took, they took a d n

686
00:57:12.000 --> 00:57:13.960
so I was like, man,
I don't know where I'm going now.

687
00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:16.519
I said, well, it's only
two places that I know I can go,

688
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:25.360
and that's what Chicago and or Buffalo. So I know Buffalo really wanted

689
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:29.920
me bad, and Mike Dicker wasn't
gonna pass me up, you know,

690
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:34.440
playing you know, me playing in
the coal, So I know I know

691
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:52.519
I would go, come on Buffalo. Houston. Houston talk too long to

692
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:58.639
pick. So Cincinnati jumped over there
and talk that they took a defense,

693
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.960
that they took a uh, they
took a h what a defensive guy.

694
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.519
So when they talk the defensive guy, then they then they came back and

695
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:09.559
said the Houston orders has select Lorenzo
White. So I'm like everybody yelling and

696
00:58:09.719 --> 00:58:14.079
you know happy, you know,
I'm like, man, Houston. I

697
00:58:14.199 --> 00:58:17.119
was like, Houston got like three
folk running bikes, right, and I'm

698
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:22.639
like man, So I was sitting
down for a minute. I was like,

699
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:25.440
man, wait a minute, wait
a minute. I said, well,

700
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:30.920
lord, whatever it is, So
I mean, I'm just gonna go

701
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:35.400
and do what I gotta do,
so it ain't no mistake. So I

702
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:37.920
get there, so I go,
I get drafted by there, So I

703
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:44.519
go there and start playing, and
it's different because now they're they're running like

704
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:49.400
they like split they run a running
shoot and the eye. So they got

705
00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:55.280
Mike Rosier A Larzo houtsmith, Spencer
Tilma from Oklahoma, Allen pinging for from

706
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:06.239
Notre Dame, and they got Ray
a guy that played full bike at Purdue.

707
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.119
So I get there, so I'm
like, well, they must be

708
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:13.920
not happy with what they, you
know, with what they have. So

709
00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:17.400
I get there and I go there
and I'm like, man, so I'm

710
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:22.960
playing and then I'm like okay.
So I meet Jerry glam So for the

711
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:27.440
first time and that was like a
trip itself, like you know, meaning

712
00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:32.039
you know Jerry. So I get
there and it's like all us playing,

713
00:59:32.199 --> 00:59:35.639
I mean, everybody, you know. So I'm like, man, I'm

714
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:38.639
practicing hard, I'm doing what I
have to do, but I ain't getting

715
00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:43.280
no I ain't getting no player in
the game right. So I'm like,

716
00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:45.800
man, I'm like, what's going
on? So I was, you know,

717
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:52.760
I'm a meeting with him. And
so the trading deadline come and the

718
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:55.199
team they had like, well they
had me come in early. So I

719
00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:59.599
said, oh, man, I'm
traded right, So I get that they

720
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:00.760
tell me they ain't get me to
trade me. Right, So I don't

721
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:05.199
know what's going on because they don't. I done left home and I'm over

722
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:08.679
at the facility. So when I
get to the facility, they tell me

723
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:10.719
that. So I said, okay, well they must be gonna play me.

724
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:15.400
So after that, after the after
practice, I talked to my agent

725
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:19.159
and he was like, yeah,
we had you had like three teams acquired

726
01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.800
about you, right, but Houston
said they didn't get you to trader.

727
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:24.679
I said, okay, well they
must uh play me. So I get

728
01:00:24.719 --> 01:00:30.239
there, so I don't play that
much. So then you see, uh,

729
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:31.960
not not so much in it.
So I played a lot of I

730
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:37.760
played special teams. So you see
the one run that I got, like

731
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:43.719
the one the ninety five yalla,
you know the kickoff. So I'm like,

732
01:00:43.880 --> 01:00:46.320
well, they they got they gotta
they gotta play me now, you

733
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:52.000
know. So they don't. So
Mike has a Mike Rosere has he has

734
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.679
has a decent year. Yeah,
he has a decent year. And so

735
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:58.199
I'm like, okay, so he
hed he held out of he had a

736
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:00.320
lot of camp. So now I'm
come Now I'm mad, you know,

737
01:01:00.719 --> 01:01:05.239
I'm mad, And so I do
the same thing I've been doing. I'm

738
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:07.440
running it. So me and the
bike back up quarterback had this little thing.

739
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:10.360
He was like, lo, listen, I ain't gonna hold the ball.

740
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:15.480
I'm gonna dump it off to you, right. So now they already

741
01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:17.480
said, okay, well I ain't
got no hands because I was like,

742
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.360
listen, I said if I didn't
have, I said, I couldn't catch

743
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:23.920
the ball. And I'm getting the
ball at Michigan State. I mean,

744
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.679
come on, man, that'll be
like you know, Dray and Dre would

745
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:32.199
have left for real, you know, and they would have if they would

746
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:35.599
have thrown me the ball. I
was like, man, I mean,

747
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:38.440
I'm already seventy five percent of the
offense and I mean, come on,

748
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:43.239
you're gonna throw it to me too. So I'm gonna really have a problem.

749
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.239
So I was telling the guy that, the guy that that one of

750
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:49.880
the writers, and he just bust
out Lavin. So I was like,

751
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.360
I say, but I'm serious.
I'll say, I don't understand how you

752
01:01:52.480 --> 01:01:55.800
have. I mean, you run
the ball well, and the team know

753
01:01:57.239 --> 01:02:02.480
because they they draft you, they
know what you do. So we go

754
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:07.159
on. So now, now me
and the bike up quarterback were running thirty,

755
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:12.400
We're running thirty and second team.
So now we're killing the we're killing

756
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:17.559
the first strained defense. And and
it was the only the only like like

757
01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:22.920
two yards pass it if one.
So now that's so when I get in

758
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.920
there, so I'm now now they
got to play me. So Mike was

759
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:28.840
still holding out. So now they
put me in the game. And next

760
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:30.920
day, you know, I'm playing. Well, I'm doing you know,

761
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:34.719
I'm getting a hundred yards. So
I'm like, man, I'm like,

762
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:38.199
okay, I'm good now. So
but you know, it's just touch it.

763
01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:42.159
You know. For me, it
was just like patience. And you

764
01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:44.840
know when Mom was like, man, you know you're a good player,

765
01:02:44.960 --> 01:02:46.519
so you know what you have to
do. So it's just patience. And

766
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:51.599
that's all she kept telling me.
Just how patience it's gonna work out for

767
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:53.800
you. Yeah, And I told
Mama that, I said, that's a

768
01:02:53.840 --> 01:03:00.480
hard thing to do, have patience, you know, you I said hard.

769
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:01.679
You know, I said, I
gotta, I gotta. I got

770
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:08.719
a big ego. But yeah,
so you know, and I tell go

771
01:03:08.760 --> 01:03:12.920
ahead, and I tell kids,
I tell kids to this day. You

772
01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:16.440
know one thing about football, you
gotta you gotta work hard, and you

773
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:19.679
got to be your own person,
you know. I mean when it comes

774
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:22.199
to you know, thinking, because
people can say a lot a lot of

775
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.639
stuff and then you can take it
in and mess up, you know,

776
01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:29.360
you know, it'll mess you up
mentally, and then you know, especially

777
01:03:29.559 --> 01:03:30.719
in the pros because I look at
that and I was like, man,

778
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:37.400
I see why people have problems,
you know, and you know when they

779
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.079
when they're playing and you just never
know the situation, you know. But

780
01:03:40.239 --> 01:03:44.559
I was in a situation, and
you know, but like I, like

781
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:45.800
my mom said, you know,
you just have to have that patience.

782
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.840
And so when I talk to people, I say, you know what you

783
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.880
do is you you. You gotta
believe in you, because if you don't

784
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:58.239
believe in you, nobody nobody will, you know. So that's that's how

785
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:00.760
That's how I took it when I
went to Houston whole time and all the

786
01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.440
way until. But like I said, I work hard. I work hard.

787
01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:05.280
When I was at Michigan State,
I work hard. When I was

788
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:11.239
with the Oiler. I remember the
second year when they was getting ready to

789
01:04:11.320 --> 01:04:14.039
go to they was getting ready to
go to the run and shoot full time.

790
01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.719
When we got Jake Party, so
I went and tell him I actually

791
01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:19.639
be traded because I told the general
manager I said, listen, I think

792
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:23.800
I got more trade value than any
anyone in the running backs you got here,

793
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:29.079
And he said, So I was
like, I don't want to be

794
01:04:29.159 --> 01:04:34.119
traded because I don't feel like I
can play because you already know you here,

795
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.400
you don't see me play, you
don't see me practice, so you

796
01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:40.360
you know I can play. So
he was like, okay, well,

797
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:43.599
if I tell you, I give
you a chance to compete for the starting

798
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:45.920
job. I said, okay,
I'm gonna shake your hand, get out

799
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.960
here and go call my mama,
tell her, uh, I'm gonna be

800
01:04:49.000 --> 01:05:00.960
starting. So what happened at the
end of Yeah, that's what happened.

801
01:05:00.360 --> 01:05:02.960
They got rid of all of They
got rid of all the other running backs,

802
01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:06.639
and I was just starting. I
mean, like I said, that's

803
01:05:06.679 --> 01:05:11.400
why you know, I tell you
know, I can't say games, but

804
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:13.679
I said, you gotta you gotta
have a strong mind. You gotta.

805
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:23.840
Well, you know, everybody said
they want another hour, which is true.

806
01:05:24.039 --> 01:05:30.320
We need that, you know fact
that yeah, you know, look,

807
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:33.880
there was one more question. Some
some other people talked about Warren Moon

808
01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:39.039
your time of War and hey with
Jefferies, how about those guys with the

809
01:05:39.079 --> 01:05:45.559
oilers. Man, listen, one
thing, you know, one thing I

810
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:48.920
always say, you know, I
went playing with one moon, right,

811
01:05:50.719 --> 01:05:57.480
I wonder what would have happened if
he would have came straight from college and

812
01:05:57.599 --> 01:06:00.039
played. I don't think nobody would
have broke his record still to this day,

813
01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:03.920
Brady or nobody. You gotta understand
that man had five great Cups in

814
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:11.920
Canada, right, Yeah, five
great Cups in Canada and still came and

815
01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:15.920
and at the time he was playing, he was in the top five.

816
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:21.880
So just imagine with Marino and Lway
and all those and all those guys playing.

817
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:27.519
So if here in the top five, what what you think would have

818
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:30.400
happened if you would have played five
years in the NFL? Mm hmm.

819
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:34.760
So ask what I just always wanted. And and then like you know,

820
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:40.679
and I love, I loved and
I love to run and shoot because it

821
01:06:40.800 --> 01:06:45.079
showed a different different showed a different
phase of my game that I can't catch

822
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:48.400
the ball and I can run the
ball. We already knew that, but

823
01:06:48.519 --> 01:06:53.000
when it came down and catching and
blocking, you know that's what you had

824
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:55.480
to do there, You know,
you don't touch the ball as much,

825
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:59.440
you know as I. You know, I used to get mad when when

826
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:05.760
very barrier during them getting the ball
four hundred times and about four hundred some

827
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:10.519
times, and I'm getting it.
I'm getting that two fifty. You know.

828
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:20.960
Now you know how Javan and I
talked so strong straight, I must

829
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:27.159
be said, I must be set
by myself up for that right right into

830
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:32.280
that one. Look at like this
man ran about forty eight times in one

831
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:40.920
game. Could you imagine if you
got that, what was your highest carried?

832
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:47.760
What was your highest car of game? Uh fifty uh fifty six at

833
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:51.079
that time, fifty seven would have
tied it. But that's the day that

834
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:56.599
fifty seven, fifty seven would have
tied it. But when we were playing

835
01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:02.239
for playing Indiana for the Rose Bowl, everybody rent storing the field. Everybody's

836
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:05.599
throw in the field. So I
couldn't I couldn't even tie. I mean

837
01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:10.039
the referee, everybody knew. The
referee looked at me, and I looked

838
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.519
at him. I told him to
turn around. I said, look looking

839
01:08:12.559 --> 01:08:14.920
at the end zone. I mean, I'm talking abot people running. I'm

840
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:19.840
running on the field. I heard
you other third throw the ball tore but

841
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:23.159
you know what, you know,
when when you talk about a lot of

842
01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:26.960
carrier, I think, my my, I think the thing that I like

843
01:08:27.319 --> 01:08:31.359
is like when I carried a hundred
and two a hundred and two times in

844
01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:45.520
two games, A hundred and two
and two games. Oh man, man,

845
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:53.279
hey man, So I honestly I
think he dripped. Is he in

846
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:57.159
Florida right now? Living in Florida? Right he lives in Florida. Yeah.

847
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:03.520
Yeah, this storm over there,
man, it's raining like it's under

848
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:09.920
than lightning. Yeah, yeah,
you know that's what lightning in the background.

849
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:15.960
Man, y'all here driving I'll be
saying I'm poor, I ain't driving

850
01:09:16.119 --> 01:09:24.800
it. Yeah, hurricane season.
Yeah. Look, it's been great man

851
01:09:24.880 --> 01:09:27.119
having you on the show. We
got to bring you on a live show

852
01:09:27.560 --> 01:09:30.079
up this year, coming up to
a game, right, a live game?

853
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:32.319
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, you know I'm gonna be

854
01:09:32.439 --> 01:09:34.840
up. Yeah, I'm gonna be
up for the game. I'll be up

855
01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:41.680
for the probably that I'm gonna be
up for the Washington State game and probably

856
01:09:41.840 --> 01:09:49.159
maybe one before that. Yeah,
all right, show Tuesday maybe could get

857
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:53.840
you know, man, you know, it's always good talking to my fellow

858
01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:57.840
spartan dogs. So yes, sir, and we can talk to you about

859
01:09:57.840 --> 01:10:00.560
the origin and Spartan dogs and all
that stuff too when you get here,

860
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.199
Man, because you got great stories. Really, we really appreciate the time

861
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:10.399
coming on the show Man again.
Congratulations on your induction to the Michigan Sports

862
01:10:10.439 --> 01:10:15.079
Hall of Fame. Love having you
on. You know, technical difficulties of

863
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:17.199
bringing you on and off camera and
all this, but hey, we power

864
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:21.840
through it, are through. Yeah. Thank you to our our subscribers and

865
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:27.840
our listeners like our family for sticking
through through the technical difficulties. But like

866
01:10:27.920 --> 01:10:30.479
you said, it's a live show
and then we just roll with the punches.

867
01:10:30.520 --> 01:10:34.359
Man. So we lost we lost
two as well, so his connectivity,

868
01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:39.960
Yeah, we deal with it.
Sometimes there's a mother nature, you

869
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.439
know, technology doesn't you know,
agree with it. That's okay, Hey,

870
01:10:43.520 --> 01:10:46.159
they don't stop the show. You
gotta be patient. That's what we

871
01:10:46.279 --> 01:10:51.239
learned today. Patience it's a virtue. And you know, thank all of

872
01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:56.800
you for joining our show today.
Do not forget to click that like and

873
01:10:56.880 --> 01:11:00.279
subscribe button. Please do that for
us, and remember we'll be back on

874
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:04.199
Thursday at eight o'clock. You know, it was a great show otis you

875
01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:09.560
know, despite the technical difficulties.
I think he got a chance for everybody

876
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:13.680
to get the spirit of low Frenzo
White, the Great Lorenzo White, and

877
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:18.560
what he means to spartan nation as
a whole as choot you now rejoins us.

878
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:24.560
I had to go call Javon when
he said he had fifty seven right,

879
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:30.439
you know, we didn't play that
connect to. I had to let

880
01:11:30.520 --> 01:11:35.279
him know that, Hey, thanks
for joining back. But you know,

881
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:39.880
any final words for you, No, man, it was a good show.

882
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:41.960
You know, it's you know,
listening there and it's you know,

883
01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:44.720
always good. And you know we
talked about you know, Zoe said's coming

884
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:47.960
back for Washington game and someffing like
that, and you know, we definitely

885
01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.960
got to have him on for a
live show. I think we can,

886
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:55.159
you know, go hours with him. But uh, you know, just

887
01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:59.960
appreciate him, you know, jumping
on. Uh. But like you said,

888
01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:04.359
stray technical difficulties. We powered through
it and appreciate the listeners for being

889
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:06.840
there and sticking with us through there. It was a lot of fun,

890
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.119
a whole lot of fun. And
for Otus, Wiley and Jay, I'm

891
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:16.359
Jason Strayhorn. This is this is
starta have a good night, God bless

892
01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:30.359
Go Green, Go hight Whit.
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893
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:35.520
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894
01:12:35.880 --> 01:12:40.760
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895
01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:45.079
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896
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:49.239
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897
01:12:49.359 --> 01:12:54.359
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898
01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.920
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