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I got somebody I love, someone who's really important to me, but
now they addicted to drugs, someone who know who they used to be,
and we've been keeping a touch. I ain't gonna say any names at all
because I don't want to know to judge, but I know the song.
I love it when they call me out. I'm a soldier. I'm love
when they think got cool because I'm sober. Gotta move. I gotta move.
I gotta move some room, give me some room. Up on them
white sleep, you're gonna see me. It's a give me her a street.
I used to pray like this when I was seventeen. If you never
let me, I just hold you. Keep that ad again. That intro
is by DJ Fuse right there joining Lucas. Let's go it's crazy right,
that's yeah dogs Yeah, give him your watch, bro, it's a bracelet,
bro saying hey, we in l a dog join and Lucas is on
the Cruise Show. Let's get it, yes, sir, how you feel,
bro? Bro? I'm good gee, yeah, I feel blessed for
so Yes, sir man, you know I listened to that intro. DJ
Fuse knocked that out the park as usual, Right, it's crazy living back
to the catalog and there's so many other more so Yes, actually yeah that
was crazy. Yeah, I fun with it. Yeah, we'll send it
to you. Dog in that too. Yeah, man, I've I've observed
you for like fifteen seconds. Bro, You're perfectionist and everybody team has to
play a role. I could tell you just by the way you look,
you conduct yourself. I appreciate it. What what where does that stem from?
I don't know. I think I think maybe I feel like I always
I'm always been like that. Yeah, I think I always been like that.
Yeah. We always organized. Yeah, even as a kid, like
made your bed in the morning. No, no, none of that shit,
None of that ship. It's like on the on the music game for
sure. Yeah. Yeah, Yo, the tour bus is outside. Let
you almost drove into it, so sorry, I was trying to flick up
it for ever. To be honest, listen to Manifest docky. I'm big
on that ship. I'm like, I've always inspired to have a you know,
a little bus tour. You know what I'm saying, something something light,
But like how is it bro being on a bus and just living out
your dreams? That tour life isn't always so glamorous people, so you associate
the bus with a tour, But it's like how I move around, It's
how you live. It's how I like move around when I'm on like the
road or forever I'm going not even have to necessarily be like you know,
going to do a show or nothing, but like wherever I go, I
make sure I have my bus with me because that's like my home away from
home. You know. Is it a comfort thing to you? Yeah,
it's a comfort thing, but it's also like you know, it's safe and
ship, you know what I'm saying. So it's like you know you you
know, you just you can you can bring like a lot of people in
there. You're not sitting there sitting in like a little small ass SUVs and
ship. Just I can't do that, you know what I mean. I
like to be able to go take a piss if I got to take a
piss, so I have to go lay down in my room or like watch
TV or play video games and like while we moving you know more while we're
moving around, sitting up like this the whole fucking time, like you're taking
I just I don't like it. It's custom built. Yeah, what's your
favorite part about the bus? It's bulletproof. Bullet fucking proof. The bus
is bulletproof. Bulletproof bus, bro, the whole thing. Good to know,
Good to know. Is there a hard part about touring? Is there
a hard part about it? Being away from your kids? Yeah, that's
like the toughest part for me. That's tough. Yeah, for sure.
How often do they come up with you on the road. I'll fly him
in here and there, you know what I'm saying. But they're so young,
you know what I mean. So what I ended up doing was just
making sure that I had certain days off that I can go fly back home
with them and come back to Yeah, it's tough to be a dad,
right. I've also noticed that some time away does help because then they miss
you and they respect you a little more. When they see you every day,
they start acting funny and they act like they don't need you because they
see you every Dingy Joe, Lucas fuck that need me. It''m gonna take
some time away you know what I mean. You realize they're trying to stay
at my house for the last time. I to I got the extra room.
See, the thing is, you stay with le you're gonna cheat on
your wife, not with him. There's female company in the building. But
what what what's the toughest part about being a dad? Then we got to
get to the music dog tough The toughest part about being a dad? I
don't really think it's tough at all. Honestly, I feel like it's I
think it's I think it's I love being a father, bro, like I
really do. I think teaching and teaching you know your kids the way you
know what I mean, and and hoping that they take the advice that you
give them. And you know, I tell my son, if if there's
one thing that, if there's one thing that I want you to remember no
matter what happens right with me, you know what I mean, in life
or you know, at some point I'm not going to be here anymore,
I want you to remember that the one thing that's important to me is that
you're a good person even when nobody's looking. That's right, I drummed that
into his seat. Just be a good person with nobody's character, be a
good person when nobody's looking absolutely, you know. And it's like these are
things that that I try to teach him. You know, My my youngest
is not even too yet, so he doesn't you know, I try to
tell him that he doesn't understand what you as a parent? What are you
doing the same and what are you doing different? What am I doing the
same? And what am I doing different? I think everything is different.
Yeah, everything is. We have to do everything different. We got undo
every everything, undo everything that has been done, you know. And you
know, one time, one time I made the mistake of you know that
my son had to be like joy and I had to be like four or
something like that, and like, I don't know, I forgot what he
did. He did something that pissed me off, right, and you know,
he really enjoyed taking he he enjoys taking baths in my bathroom because I
have like a like a like one those hot with jets, and like he's
got the TV and like it's crazy, rights, right, Jesus, And
I know how much he enjoys taking a bath in that room. But he
also has his own shower, you know, And and he pussed me off,
and it was it was a little bit late, and it was like,
you know what, just we just take a shower and just go to
bed. But he was like, can I take a bath in your room?
And I'm like, nah, that bath is not for if. That
bath is for good boys, right, And I'm like, you take a
shower in your shower, right. And then when he was and I felt
like ship bro for saying that to him, right, because I'm like,
damn, bro, like, how am I telling this kid like that he
can't take a bath in the bath because that's a bad it's a good boy
bath, that's a bath. And it's like, why the fuck did I
tell him that? Right? And I went insed, Bro, it's what
I'm saying. It's like, bro, like, that's not the right way,
right, And it's like, bro, what And when I said it
to him, he didn't he didn't like feel any way about it. He
was like, oh, okay, so that's so this shower is for good
but this is for good boys and then this is for bad boys, okay.
Yeah, And I'm like no, no, no, no, no,
no no no right, yeah, So I had to let me do
that. Me undo that shit, right, because I don't want him to
think that. And then I just went in his room and I gave him
a hug, and I apologized to him for saying that, and I said,
let's don't but I told you about the shower and the bath. Forget
I ever said that, let's go, let's go take a bath, right,
Yeah, took him in the room, gave him a bath in my
bathtub. It's like, I can't. I can't tell you you can't take
a bath because you did. It's like, what the fuck is wrong with
me? Right? Why would I? And I think that that comes from
that's that's ship that my bitch ass father would do to me. You know
what I'm saying, or say to me? You know what I'm saying,
Like, so it's like, let me undo what has been done to me?
You know what I'm saying, Like these are things that my generation didn't
really think about or came and it's like, bro, I you know so
when I when I say that, I had to really think about what I
just did and what I said. And it wasn't to him, he didn't
look at it like a big deal. But to me, that was a
big deal. You know what I'm saying, like, yeah, because that
could that could later go off in his head one hundred percent. Now that
go that that might bring him down the path of jail, you know.
And it's like, you know, you can't shower over here, you gotta
take showers. It's like I don't want I don't want that ship, you
know what I mean. We're not institutionalizing his house. And what I did
was institutionalize you and tell you that you can't, you know, take a
shower here or a bath here because you did this. And now it's like,
man, nah, yeah, And I told him, I said,
oh, Daddy was wrong when I said that to you. I'm wrong for
saying that. Undo everything in your head that I just said about the shower
in the bath. Take it all out. I know what I realized.
Real men apologize to their kids one hundred percent. One hundred percent, bro.
And And and it made me feel like shit the whole night. I
really thought about that's the worst. When they go to bed and you used
to running back everything you said and did to them throughout the day, and
you're like, why did I say this? Why did I do that?
It's torture. I don't want him to grow up and remember that shit,
right and think about these things and then feel some type of way. I
don't want that. I want us to have a really like you know what
I'm saying. I don't want it to be like no shit like that,
bro. So it's like I had to realize as a man, like you
know, as a father, like we fuck up, brou We're not fucking
perfect parents, fuck up, you know, but you catch that ship in
real time, in real time and be like powerful, fucked up, do
that to me. But then you gotta I also think back, right,
because I used to be upset with my parents for a little bit, but
I love him. You know, they did the best with what they had,
right. They were just trying to figure it out too, with less,
with less than what we have, resources, education, you name it.
Yeah, and then it's tough. You know, they're working, you
know, they gotta go to work and then be stressed out at work because
it then come home and then they gotta be a mommy or daddy mode and
then they got to work and all that shit. And I guess that's the
you know, that's the price of being parents. However, I do not
feel like that's the child's fault. You know what I mean, It's not
the child's fault. My son didn't ask to be born. Sometimes I catch
my son's I catch myself slipping when you know, I'm like this niggas spoiled.
You know, I have this mentality because you got the indoor pool,
you got all these fucking gadgets and toys and iPads and all this ship spoiled.
You're spoiled. He's not fucking spoiled. This is all he knows.
He didn't ask to be It's not his fault that he does give it to
him. You know what I'm saying. He don't know what it's like to
be poor. He don't know what it's like to have So it's like sometimes
I be wanting to be really thinking about taking the trip to another country with
this nigga so he could really see what the yeah fuses trying to have a
baby? Man, Is there any advice should he? Should she be on
top of what? You really want to have? Kids? Bro? Just
have them? Have them? Bro. Kids are sucking. It's amazing.
Man. It is hard, but it's the best. Bro. I wouldn't
trade it for the world. Man. And it's like I want to have
more, and I'm gonna have more, and I'm gonna have kids all the
way until eighty. Bro, that's right. I don't know. I just
know that, you know. I just want to have kids all the way
up until eighty same baby, mama. We're gonna spread the wealth. We're
gonna spread it. That's right. No, thank you very much for stopping
by them. Man, we'll see you later. Some ship that. But
let me open up for you. It's crazy. What the problem, man?
Let me let me open up for you. You're right, that was
right after that having a baby conversation. Let me you was off, not
now, I'm busy. Phenomenal project, bro, congratulations man, bars are
crazy, it is. It's just unbelievable. Exactly quality you feel me best
for me featuring jelly Roll. It's a very very very sincere song. Man.
I appreciate it. Yeah. Man, it's a letter. It almost
feels like a intervention letter. Yeah somebody, yeah, somebody very important and
jelly Roll comes in and that pain just seeps through. It's crazy. This
person is an actual person that you're speaking to and you're speaking for I guess
yeah, man, it's a relative. I don't want to say, I
don't want to talk, but it's somebody's love. Yeah, it is love,
and it's in you know, the record was not only in tending for
this person, but it's also you know, intended to help anybody else.
Has you know been through it, or know somebody that's going through an addiction.
You know, Yeah, that addiction is crazy, bro. So you
know, but you say, you say in the song, you know,
people call it a disease, and you use that as an excuse, yeah,
to keep going. And I guess that's right because if you call it
a disease, and I guess in a way it is right. But some
people may perceive that as an excuse and say, hey, it's happening to
me, right, right, right, right, There's nothing I can do.
It's happening to me, right. I think that when you are addicted
to something or anything, you know, you try to you know, minimize,
you know, or you try to put the blame on something you know
and not yourself, you know, because accountability, you know, So saying
that it's a disease like the you know it and it actually is technically classified
as a disease, right, The scientists would say that this is an actual
disease at this point, right, And it's interesting that it's called that,
uh you know that is labeled as an actual disease, you know if it
is. But I think that once you're hip to that, then it makes
it easier for you to hold onto that as a crush, you know what
I on that? Yeah, when you're when you're ultimately in control and you
yourself are sober, right, Oh yes, are you California sober or like
sober sober? No, I'm sober sober. Yeah, I'm sober sober.
I don't really you know, I don't really I'm not into you know,
doing any type of drugs at all, you know, barely drink type ship.
But yeah, it's just not my ship, you know what I mean.
I'm just not into it like that, you know what I mean?
Yeah? Is it to protect yourself? I think honestly, I think my
body just doesn't it just doesn't like it. And also my kids, yeah,
bro, like you know what I'm saying. My kids, Man,
my kids need me, bro, Like what yes, they do, you
know what I mean? And they're gonna need me faverris. So it's like
I can't I can't do anything that's that's gonna you know, fuck me up
and make it and jeopardize. You know, you got to protect home.
Bro, I'm ill. It's crazy fun with you? Could you not thank
you? That ship is crazy? Like? What's wrong with you? Bro?
You don't something gotta be wrong to be that good? Bro? That's
it Like if you're an artist like yourself, Bro, like something is clearly
wrong. And I get it. Something's wrong with all of us. But
when you hear i'm ill, it's like, okay, bro, this dude,
right here, this is different. This is pain, this is happiness,
This is a lot of emotion. Thank you, bro, You're very
welcome. Bro. You funk with the album because god dang, yeah,
Bro, it's crazy. Why the visuals? Why you know there's blood everywhere?
So what's going on? Man? So there's a there's a there's a
message on that, sir. The album about you know, killing off my
old self in order to become you know, the new version of Hawaiian today.
So with the visuals as representation of that, you see the blood the
blood come from. Yeah, when you're when you're moving forward right and you're
growing right, it does take some violence, I guess mentally. Yeah,
Yeah, that's what that that's what that means on there, Yeah, bro,
very violent, but very artistic. Yeah, thank you. How far
into the dream chasing would you say you started being intentional about the stuff you
put into your music? What do you mean by that? Like everything you
say is so raw, so authentic? Has it always been that way?
Like when you started rapping? Was it now or were you rapping about different
shit? I think in the are you talking about like in general in life?
When I got on? Like when in life? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean I think that I went through many different phases. Are trying to,
you know, find my voice, and you know there's there's different levels
to join her, you know what I mean. Like you got the storytelling
Joiner, you got turn up Joiner. You know you got the lyrical Joiner.
And it's not just I'm not just one Joiner, you know what I
mean, it's different layers appreciate one hundred percent. So I think I try
to show that as much as I can in the music, and I let
the beat really take me into the direction I need to go. Yeah.
I love the way you open up the album too. I guess we could
pause that as well. Put me on this crazy congratulations. You know what
I go back to as well is Riding Solo twenty fifteen. Man. I
heard that the other day, bro, and I'm like, man, it's
been He's come such a long way, right you have, but you're still
that guy. Thank you lyrically, thank you. Yeah, Riding Solo is
like damn you brought it back, like that ship with the UFO on the
cover. Doll crazy along came Joiner. Yeah you're talking about that album,
yes, sir, Yeah, like that. The album was a science experiment.
It's a whole bunch of different sounds and a whole bunch of I didn't
know what the world wanted to hear from me, so I put that out,
you know, trying to see which record people gravitated towards to the most
out of there. Then once I figured out what that was, then it
would be like, okay, like this is the sound? Is that what
happened with like Lisa, Lisa? Right? You sampled on the new project?
Is that something you grew up listening to? Yep, my mom had
a free style ship playing style. There's so many like freestyle records that I
want to sample, Bro, Like you gotta start getting all them clearances from
Stevie B and everybody else. And I heard getting Debbie Depp sample was pretty
pretty crazy, I've heard, Yeah, I tried. Did anybody sample that?
Fucking I remember when we first start, Who's who sampled that? Nobody
sampled that ship? Yeah, yeah, that's ship hard. I mean you
we could d m Stevie bo. Right, he's still shows man's freestyle shows
allowed dog. Yeah, people still fuck with that ship. Yeah right.
Freestyle was big in your neighborhood. But then like my mom's and aunts and
ship used to, it had a moment. It was an era. Speaking
of me, Yeah, speaking of music, what's the last concert you went
to as a fan? Bro? Last concert? You know what, I
don't want to be Joiner today. I just want to be fan. I
don't know. It might it might have been a Tie Dollard sign concert.
I stayed outside. I went to his concert, and then like after I
watched Ti dolland Sign perform. I remember hitting up my I wasn't on at
all. Nobody knew who I was. I was just trying to, you
know, get on. But I went to see Tie perform live because I'm
such a huge fan of Tie and when I left that show, I was
like, yeah, I was like, bro, the guy is a phenomenal
performer. But also you know he I noticed the stage set. He had
a lot of props and ship on stage, Like you had a big blow
up side all the sun logo. You had like a bunch of lights and
a bunch of ship. There's production value there, production value, And I'm
like that I need to raise my production value. And I performed because I
feel like that helps with the perception. Because if you're going on stage with
just the mic, you don't got no lights, you don't got no screen,
you don't got ship, and kind of yourself makes it like hard,
right, Like that's crazy if you can pull that off, but you need
you need some production value, give the people some some kind of show,
elevate your presence. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I think that.
I I think that was the last concert that I that I went to that
I was really like, went on some fan ship that I was like,
yeah, this ship is fire. For a second, I thought you were
going to say Olivia Rodrigo for some with Taylor Swift. Yeah we should that's
that bad. You just got to figure out what's up Jackie when it comes
to your kids, who has your personality out of out of all your kids,
who has your personality the most as my personality? Nobody? I don't
know because like a joiner, I see like certain things that he does that
reminds me of me, but he also has his own He's into ship that
I wasn't into when I was a kid. He's into like karate fighting,
kung fu. Ship he's into like he's into he's into like robots and like
fucking cartoons and like he's into like Yugo fuck you know that all the ships,
the animate ship. Like he's into ship like that. I never was
into that ship. I never I was into music. He's not really into
music like that. Right, he has a whole different ship, and I
love that. I don't want to push anything on my kid. I want
them to have their own unique personalities and their own ship, and I just
want to support what they want to do and the right Javari is about the
year and six seven months or something like that, and uh, you know
he's he's a he's a very smart you know, he knows a sign language.
Whoa Yeah, Like it's like really knows it. Like he tells me.
He doesn't talk, so he tells me when he's hungry, and ship
he tells me when he's full. Amazing, he tells me like he's able
to communicate in confidence. It's Miss Rachel. Bro. She's a fucking genius.
She taught my Miss Rachel Bro, she taught my son how to sign
language. Bro. This nigga tells me he's hungry. Bro. He tells
me, I want more. He tells me when he's full, tells me
all done. I'm like Miss Rachel. She's online, bro, She's on
YouTube. Miss Rachel, she's the biggest ship and she's outside. She's outside.
I'm telling you, just have babies and put Miss Rachel on the fucking
TV. I'm doing that with my son. Man, you're my younger to
sign with the music language Miss Rachel Crazy Crazy from Gang signs and sign Let's
go Hey, best for me featuring Jelly Roll on all streaming platforms. Let's
go not now, I'm busy on all streaming platforms. A tour Crazy,
there's a day off between Vegas and l A. Do you go back home
with the kids for your surpri go back home for the kids. I probably
do the private jet ship get there quick boy by bound, I'm gonna do
that. I'm gonna do that a few times. But yeah, it's important
for me to see my kids because if I went out of my when I'm
not like I spend, if I'm too like, go too long without seeing
them, then I start feeling like sad. And Ship said, I don't
feel like guilty and guilty and I start I don't feel like myself, you
know what I mean, like like when I see my kids and shit,
I'm good. I get that boost back, get charge my you know my
fucking battery real quick. I'm good. After that, everything's in perspective,
right, it feels like one yeah view purpose right yeah, hey check get
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