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We have an active shooter. We
have an after shoot. It's go ahead

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to clear. That's a mass casualty. Welcome to Active Shooter, a podcast

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that covers the whys, the hows, and the aftermath of active shooter and

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mass casualty events. I have an
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call as our big attack. We
got Chuck Flier at four fifteen as broaching

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ninety one sounded like, Oh I'm
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an active shooter, active shooter,
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contain adult themes, explicit language,
and graphic depictions of violence. Portions of

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this show may be traumatic for those
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Tragedy and Ben after a shooting spree
at a shopping center. Just after seven

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o'clock last night, a gunman opened
fire at the Forum shopping center, killing

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two people at a Safeway grocery store
and injuring two others. Please say this

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shooting spree lasted only a matter of
minutes, but being on the ground here

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in Ben tonight, you can see
the impact on this community will last a

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long while. Now we are learning
the identities of the two victims killed in

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the shooting. They are eighty five
year old Glenn Edward Bennett, a customer

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at Safeway, and a sixty six
year old Safeway employee named Donald Surrett Junior.

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The common themes we seem to hear
over and over again when covering mass

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shooting cases are statements such as,
they seemed like someone who would commit a

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shooting, their mental health took a
serious decline recently, they suddenly became paranoid,

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or they suddenly became extreme, and
of course, most commonly, the

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guns were purchased legally. Indeed,
most of those themes will appear throughout the

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case we are covering today. The
shooter was clearly suffering from some sort of

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mental health crisis and had been for
some time. He was violent and liked

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to pick fights, starting at an
early age. The shooter displayed so many

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of the obvious traits that we've come
to associate with active shooters. So why

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was he able to access firearms?
And why was he able to carry out

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such a deadly act when others foresaw
him doing that very thing? Why if

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mass shooters are so much easier to
identify. Are we still no better off

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today than decades ago? The questions
I just asked will not be answered in

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today's episode, but they are topics
we should all be to discussing and making

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real efforts to resolve. Today's case
is dedicated to the lives and memories of

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the two injured survivors and the two
deceased victims, Donald Ray Surrett Junior and

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Glenn Edward Bennett. Active Shooter the
podcast is a High five Holly production,

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and I'm your host JT. If
you've listened to our prior episodes, you

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know that the Active Shooter podcast team
has taken the no notoriety pledge and we

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will not be sharing the real name
of the shooters that we cover. We

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will be giving the shooters a pseudonym
and refer to them by that name throughout

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the episode. This will help in
clearing up any confusion in the story.

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While remaining true to our pledge and
not naming the shooter by their actual name.

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We will refer to today's shooter as
Ben. Sunday, August twenty eighth,

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twenty twenty two, was a hot, sunny summer day in Bend,

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Oregon. Bend with an average of
three hundred sunny days each year. It's

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not a typical for a summer day
to be clear and bright from sun up

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to sundown. Bend, Oregon is
an eclectic city located about one hundred and

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sixty miles southeast of Portland. The
city boasts a population of one hundred and

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three thousand full time residents and is
loaded with things to do, including camping,

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cycling, guided tours, and brewery
tours, just to name a few.

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The Dashute River runs through the heart
of the city, which sits along

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the boundary of the Eastern Cascades,
slopes and foothills. Its breath takingly beautiful

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and serene, which presents a horrifically
stark contrast to the forbidding tragedy that was

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to unfold in this charming Pacific Northwest
city, a loss that this community was

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not prepared for. At seven p
m. Sunday evening, twenty year old

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Ben exited his apartment located at the
Fox Hollow Apartment Building. He carried a

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five fifty six Nato Radical Firearms r
F fifteen semi automatic rifle and a twelve

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gage Stephens Model three twenty pump action
shotgun. As he walked towards his truck,

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rather than getting inside to drive away, Ben shot at the nineteen ninety

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seven Ford F one fifty before turning
back to walk through the parking lot towards

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the Forum Shopping Center located in front
of the apartment complex and parking lot.

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As he approached the Costco, Ben
fired into the store's parking lot. The

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sight of Ben likely presented a sinister
image as he walked with a swift gait

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through, carrying firearms and wearing a
black T shirt with the word hurt in

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big bold letters stretched across the front. He also wore black pants, a

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tactical vest, and a green satchel
filled with ammunition, which was slung around

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his waist. Four minutes after leaving
his apartment, Ben entered the parking lot

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of the Forum Shopping Center from the
rear alley of the shopping center that bordered

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the apartment complex. There were a
number of stores located within the shopping center,

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including retail giants such as Old Navy, Big Lots and Barnes and Noble,

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and major grocery stores such as Whole
Foods and Safeway. As he walked

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through the parking lot. Ben shot
into the Big Lots store that sat just

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next to the safeway. He also
turned and shot into the parking lot at

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a parked van. There was a
stack of hot tubs sitting outside of a

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store, which Ben shot at a
lot along with a Honda Civic that was

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slowly driving past. He fired with
abandon and didn't appear to have any specific

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target in mind. He simply wanted
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who was in the line of fire. The Honda Civis owner was cruising along

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minding their own business when a man
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Glass from the windshields shattered into the
moving vehicle, and the driver was

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stuck with both the falling glass and
pieces of shrapnel from bullets piercing through the

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passenger side door, as was later
evidenced by bullet holes that riddled the door

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in windshield. Police later indicated that
if there had been anyone in the passenger

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seat, they surely would not have
survived the shooting. Ben approached the west

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entrance of the safeway and encountered customer
Glenn Bennett. Ben started shooting at Glenn

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and several other customers who were able
to flee from the scene. Glenn wasn't

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as fortunate. He was shot and
fell to the ground. I was in

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Safeway with my four children and my
wife was in the car. She wasn't

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feeling well, so she was sitting
out front in the car, and we

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were walking toward the front of the
store and I heard what I am guessing

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is sixty seven shots going off outside
outside the store, and I just turned

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to my kids. I knew what
it was right away. I see a

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few of the customers turned back to
try to assist Glenn, who was shot

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in his right arm, left thigh, and groin. He was rushed to

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the hospital and later succumbed to many
injuries. Eighty four year old Glenn Edward

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Bennett was born on September eighth,
nineteen thirty seven, in Gillette, Wyoming.

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He proudly served his country fighting in
Korea. Though he was a soldier,

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Glenn was known as a compassioned man
who left a lasting impact on most

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that he met. He had lived
in Bend, Oregon for twenty eight years

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leading up to death, and was
incredibly passionate about old cars and was described

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as a huge movie buff Ben proceeded
into the store, shouting loudly, you

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better run. He stalked the aisleways, shooting down each as he wandered the

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store from one end to the other. The sight of a man walking anywhere

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with a firearm drawn is enough to
cause panic and alarm, so the paralyzing

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sight of Ben must have been downright
spine shilling as he carried the rifle in

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one hand and the shotgun in the
other. Shooting with complete abandon, Ben

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fired into the glass cases in the
meat department and ambled along toward the produce

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section. Shoppers ran for their lives. Some hid behind anything large enough to

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conceal their form, while others gathered
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One such patron, Molly, was
shopping with her husband when they heard the

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shooting. Molly drew her own handgun
from her purse, while her husband ran

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out the front door to retrieve his
own firearm from their car. People were

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screaming, some the blood curdling screams
of one who was suffering from a great

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deal of pain or fear, while
others were yelling to run and active shooter.

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When Ben finally made his way to
the produce section. A Safeway employee

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named Donald was also ready to fight
back. He was either going to stop

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the shooter or he was going to
die trying. Donald did both. He

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grabbed a produce knife, clutching the
green handle as he stealthily stepped just behind

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a produce cart. As Ben approached
and peered away from Donald, Donald sprang

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into action, stabbing Ben while simultaneously
trying to disarm him. Unfortunately, Ben

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managed to gain control of his weapons
and shot and killed Donald. Sir engaged

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with the shooter, attempted to disarm
him, and may very well have prevented

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further deaths. Mister Syrett acted heroically
during this terrible incident. Sixty six year

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old Donald, called Don Ray Surrett, Junior, died a hero. His

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actions very likely saved many other lives
and most certainly stalled the shooter as first

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responders raced to the scene. The
twenty year old Army vet was born on

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December sixteenth, nineteen fifty five,
and had served as a combat engineer.

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Although Don wasn't deployed into an active
combat zone, he was stationed in Germany

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three separate times and lived on various
military bases across the United States. Dawn

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worked in the Visitor Information in Interpretive
services, in Operations and maintenance divisions for

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the United States Forest Services. He
worked in the ben Fort Rock Ranger District

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for the Forest Services over six different
seasons from twenty twelve to twenty seventeen.

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Dawn was described as big hearted and
a devoted husband to wife Jacqueline. He

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was an active member of the Lepine
Seventh day Adventist Church as well as the

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Disabled American Vets Chapter fourteen Adjutant and
Treasurer. Donn is survived by three children,

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seven grandchildren, and three great grandchildren. A GoFundMe was established in his

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honor, and it raised nearly one
hundred and thirty thousand dollars, which is

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a testament to how many lives Don
touched. At seven oh eight pm,

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only minutes after Ben initially shot into
his own truck, Ben leaned back against

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the same product cart that Don hid
behind moments earlier. He drew the shotgun

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up towards his lap, and he
completed suicide. Police were already on the

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scene by that point and entered the
store both through the front and rear entrances.

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A Ben police officer made his way
to the produced department, where he

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saw Ben sitting on the ground.
Blood was quickly pulling around him, and

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it was evident that he was deceased. The officer withdrew the firearm from Ben's

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lap. Ben's hand was draped over
the weapon and both were drenched in blood.

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The officer moved the gun to safety
as a precaution, and then returned

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to his fellow officers to assist in
clearing the scene. Not a single Bend

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police officer fired a shot. This
is specifically mentioned to give context to the

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massive amount of shots that Ben fired. It was over one hundred rounds in

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all, between his own truck,
the parking lots, the big lots,

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and of course, the safeway.
The entire shooting lasted eight minutes, making

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it an average of twelve and a
half bullets fired per minute. Police continued

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to clear the safeway, locating people
hiding in the restrooms and store cooler,

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and escorted the shaken customers and employees
from the store. A search of Ben's

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apartment and truck produced a sawed off
shotgun and three molotov cocktails. Out of

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an abundance of caution, the bomb
squad was called in to search the apartment

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and the Safeway, both of which
were deemed Subsequent investigation determined that Ben was

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previously employed by the Safeway grocery store. Ben's mother was a Safeway employee,

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working, according to her Facebook profile, as a quote personnel coordinator. What

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isn't clear is whether they were employed
there at the same time, or,

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more importantly, the significance of the
Safeway store or why it was chosen as

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the shooting site. Ben purchased the
ammunition a day prior to the shooting,

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and there were several boxes of ammo
located back in Ben's apartment, along with

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the boxes for the firearms used in
the shooting, purchased legally, and several

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cell phones. Search warrants were obtained
for all electronic devices, and police collected

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nearly one hundred and seventy five pieces
of evidence, ninety video clips, and

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several sets of photographs. Investigators interviewed
over eighty people while surveillance was obtained from

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as many local businesses as possible.
There was surveillance video from the Big Lots

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which depicts multiple shoppers clearly running for
safety while others were standing by the windows

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pointing into the parking lot. Seconds
later, those same people in front of

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the window could be seen turning and
running as the glass from the window exploded

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into millions of tiny shards that fell
to the floor. Initially, there were

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reports of two shooters, though it
was promptly determined that Ben acted alone.

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Ben was born on October thirty one, two thousand and one. He graduated

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from Mountain View High School in twenty
twenty. His high school years were fraught

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with anxiety and anger. He often
got into fights, although Ben would describe

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himself as one who suffered from isolation
and loneliness, which was a direct result

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of the COVID nineteen pandemic. Ben's
initial plans were to attack his former high

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school on the first day of class. However, according to evidence police located

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later, Ben couldn't wait any longer. He needed to carry out his murder

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plan because quote the rage has become
uncontrollable. A former classmate claimed that Ben

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was extremely aggressive and didn't have many
friends as a result. Another classmate claimed

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that as a freshman, they were
suspended for a week after fighting with Ben.

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The classmate thought that Ben always held
a grudge after that, and in

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fact, during one encounter between the
two after high school, Ben was working

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at the Safeway and was in the
parking lot collecting shopping carts when he came

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across the classmate, whom Ben instantly
recognized. Ben approached and threatened the classmate,

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who knew enough to take the threat
seriously. Yet another classmate, a

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Keela Havrlant, claimed that Ben wasn't
well liked because of his attitude towards others,

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and further explained that he was mean
and awkward, but it was how

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uncomfortable he made his female classmates feel
that stuck with a kale of the most.

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So many students described Ben as the
kid who was most likely to turn

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into a school shooter. The signs
were there and clear to almost anyone who

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took the time to look. Perhaps
it's time that we really start listening when

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this becomes the mantra about a person. Ben was fascinated with MMA, or

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mixed martial arts, and even trained
at a local gym called Danzig Mma.

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The pandemic shuddered all gyms, and
Ben never started back up when everything reopened.

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He had no criminal history and not
even a record of any sort of

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contact with law enforcement. He most
certainly was never on their radar. Perhaps

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the single most important, perhaps even
the only insight into Ben's state of mind

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or why the rage burned so deeply
within him, came from his manifesto.

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The fifty six page docs document detailed
Ben's utter hatred of the government, the

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COVID lockdowns, women technology, and
many other rants. He described his desire

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to kill a harm, and the
writing read like a diary that Ben appeared

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to have been keeping for about two
months before the shooting. The manifesto shows

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a very clear decline in Ben's mental
health, and he discussed his precise plans

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for a school shooting Columbine style.
Ben likened himself to an introvert who had

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anger issues, and he frequently talked
about how dangerous he was. Most chillingly,

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Ben preemptively blamed family members for the
shooting, claiming that they drove him

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to want to murder innocent people,
though he never really seems to explain how

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they did so. There are several
excerpts from Ben's manifesto that, while disturbing,

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bring you our listeners into the mind
of pure evil. Some of these

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excerpts will be read here for you
now. Regarding the COVID lockdowns, he

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said, quote, I still haven't
been able to pull myself out of that

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state. Despite numerous attempts at getting
back into Mma, which I still love

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so dearly and always will, despite
numerous jobs, despite numerous attempts at finding

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love once again, despite numerous attempts
at being social and trying to make new

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friendships, they have all proved futile. The first page of the manifest reads,

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in part quote, if you're reading
this, then I'm definitely dead and

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have just committed a national tragedy.
I've left this journal for all the investigators,

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media, internet salutes, etc.
But most importantly, this is for

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the very few people that I actually
care about and want to understand why and

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how this happened so that they can
be at peace. I'm going to lay

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it all out for you so that
by the end of all of this you

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you will understand why I did what
I did. What you'll see here is

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the documentation and description of the months, weeks, days from today up until

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the massacre, and he said,
quote, this shooting is going to be

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a bit different. I'm not like
the typical mass shooter. I'm different.

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I'm not doing this for fame or
to get revenge. I simply want to

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die and leave a lasting impression and
violent mark on this world on my way

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out. My life could have been
different, but because of the mistakes and

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choices I've made, it led me
here. I'm not exactly upset with it,

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though, I will find peace on
the other side. A week before

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the shooting, Ben wrote the following
quote, rage, I just keep building

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it up, keep piling it on. I need it, I need it

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more. Depression is as old bitch
and gets in the way of my motivation.

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Life fucking sucks. I know that. I'm aware, too, aware.

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It's one hundred percent reel now it's
sunk in and I'm ready. I'm

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ready to just stop thinking, to
get on with it and move on.

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I hope. I fucking scare you
fuckers. God the media is gonna be

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so pathetic. Mountain View. Fuck
that school. No good memories about that

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school or the staff within it.
Shock and awe. That's what I'm going

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for. This cess pit town has
been growing more and more environment over the

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last few years, but nothing like
this, not even close. I'm going

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to shape this place to its fucking
core. Ben wrapped up his manifesto with

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the following quote, you guys are
all so shocked and appalled. I'm picture

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during it now. I've always been
dangerous, so look at ticking fucking time

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bomb reddic blow. About two weeks
after the shooting, the Safeway reopened to

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the general public. Each shelf was
neatly stalked, merchandise lined up in a

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uniform manner, and sparkling clean.
The pharmacy gleamed with a new coat of

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paint, and the entire store beckoned
customers to come back in and shop.

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For added safety, the store instituted
a security guard, fully equipped with a

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bulletproof vest, just outside of the
store. We all have the unique ability

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to help prevent such a catastrophic event
from happening if we keep our eyes and

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ears open and never hesitate to report
when something or someone just doesn't seem right.

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With a delicate balance of mental health
reform, education, active shooter training,

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and common sense gun laws, we
may one day realize the dream,

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the dream that there will be no
more active shootings. We pray that love

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will prevail over hate. Too many
have died, we should say to ourselves,

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not one more. In the meantime, we urge our listeners to stay

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aware of your surroundings and keep in
touch with your loved ones. If you

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see something, say something, you
never know how many lives you'll be saving.

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Thank you for listening to today's episode
of Active Shooter the Podcast. Remember,

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if you see something, say something, there's no telling how many lives

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you may be saving. A big
thank you to Darren Curtis, who composed

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some of the songs on our show. You can find him online at www

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dot Curtis music dot com. Make
sure to check us out on social media.

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You can find us on Facebook at
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be safe.

