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we're going to bring you the final episode of follow Vance. The original air
date on this episode is July the fourth, nineteen fifty and the title is
The Muddy Murder Case. Sit Down. Please, Rants, sit down and
be prepared for the most ridiculous situation you ever heard. Well, Markholm,
that takes in a lot of territory. As a private investigator, you've encountered
a lot of weird murders. I know as a district attorney, so have
I I am well aware of that. What's so completely fantastic about this one.
Let me give you a rundown on it, all right. First of
all, you heard of John Williams. I get leader gunman shot dead last
night. Yes, I read about it on the way down here. You
only read part of it. Believe me. Williams had a three way deal
with two other operators, Sam Foster and Whitey Morrow. They had a working
arrangement, but as I understand it, they split last month. Nothing too
fantastic about the situation yet, Markholm. Wait, it's reasonable to believe,
as we do, that either Sam Foster there a White Morrow killed Williams.
The motive is obvious, Mark Complete, all right, all right, I
just wanted to bring you up to date on the background. I listened.
Williams lived in the house in the country. Yes, you know how it
rained all day yesterday. Certainly I know. I just had my car washed.
Always rains immediately afterward. I have the same thing happened when I wear
a suit. It's just been dressed. Let's get back to Williams. His
house in the country was surrounded, completely surrounded, mind you, by a
sea of mud. Williams was shot inside the house. There was no way
for the killer to get in except by going through the mud, and there
were no footprints. Vance. How did I know? Yes, that would
be fantastic, and you assured me this case was yes, Yes, How
do you know the killer didn't arrive and leave before the rain? Your guessing
was good advance, but not complete. Williams had a housekeeper. She was
home when the shop had killed him was fired. She came downstairs but saw
nover me but on the yard lights and immediately noticed no footprints and there were
no convenient trees. If that's what you're thinking, she might have killed Williams,
or she might be lying. I doubt it. No Vance, she
is no our killer, whoever it is, Sam Fos sure a Whiteymorrow.
I's figured out a murder that we can't possibly tie to him because there isn't
a way in the world it could have been done. Hey, mister Forrester,
Yes, ask her? What? Yes? I just said, Hey
mister Foster. Oh yeah, Hey mister Forrester, eight subway trades. Pretty
keep your mind on what you're doing, I said, eight subway trades,
pretty, mister forst I heard you. I'm keeping my mind though, what
I'm doing. Anna ask her if you weren't so handy with a gun?
I couldn't stand you around me. But I am keeping my mind though what
I'm doing. Please answer the question I ask, not the one before.
I'd driving me nice? Well, if I wasn't handy with a good why
couldn't you stand? I passed that? Ask her? Do me a pay?
Shut up? You know why I don't answer the same question you're asking.
I answered him what before? Why? Because it takes time to get
things through my head. I ate quick, except with a gun. I
look, we get everything I said up till now. Just listen, listen
to me. Okay, okay, that's better. We know Whitey Morrow comes
to his office every day using the subway. He hates cabs. I am
listened. Ask her stay with me. Morrow is due here any second.
He'll wait for a train when it comes in the station. You let him
have it and we get out. You understand, sure? I understand?
What do you understand? I should listen to you? That's fine, that's
fine. I think maybe I better call off the asker. There's Whitey just
going through the turnstile. Why do hes do here? Ready? Second?
When he comes, I wait for the trains coming in here? Doesn't see
us walking back up with me? Come on, what walking back up with
me? Come on? Oh? The bond paper doesn't go ahead? Ask
him now, but A can give it to him right in my back.
Oh now, I said, now, didn't I want? I should kill
him after? Okay, okay, now you those up to bister force.
I think we ought to be him. Why do you Morrow's in pretty bad
shape, mister Benson. There were three bullets in him, but he's lived
up until now. Although I don't know how pretty tough character a doctor,
he certainly is. Only in a little while we'll be saying he certainly was.
He doesn't have a chance. Does he know that I've told him,
the police have told him. He's pretty hard to convince. It's about the
last thing a man wants to admit, isn't it. I suppose. So
anyhow, you can go in your working on this case vance only if it
ties up with the murder of a man named John Williams. Doctor Williams was
killed under completely impossible circumstances. Williams and White Morrow inside were two thirds of
a crime syndicated. It wouldn't be strange if the other third, Sam Foster,
killed Williams and almost got Morrow in the subway. Anyhow, that's what
I want to find out. Call me if I can help. I will
doctor, Hello Morrow, whoever you are going with here? I'm final vanced,
Whitey, remember me? I think you were favored once? Do me
another one. I'll get lost. Who shot you, Whitey? So it's
like get out of here? You watch the papers. The first guy to
gets bobs a guy to try to get me. The doctors say, you
aren't ever going to get out of here? What do they know? Oh?
Got shot them? Man? Oh me so should no, I'm going
to get better than them. Oh, you and John Williams were in partnership
with Sam Foster. Whity you broke up. Foster wants to run the whole
racket. So he killed Williams and he tried to kill you. Wasn't a
simply nest unless you killed Williams. Me, Johnny and me were friends.
Besides, I can figure out a way to kill him on the flock him
one outside his house and no footprints, Sam's said, Whitey, Whitey,
Doctor Manders, Doctor Manders, yes, coming, Why does it take a
look at the patient? Doctor? I think he's dead. Only I didn't
take time to make sure. Yes, he's dead all right, although how
he lived this long after being shot is a mystery. You think that's a
mystery, doctor, How about the one I'm going to work on now?
How a man could walk through thirty feet of mud without leaving a footprint.
Damn, damn your prizeless? Did you ever hear the what about? I
said, it's the Oscar? Mister? Could I commit it? Come back
next year? Could later next year? Okay, I'll come back next year,
Oskar Sammy's prize? Am I getting heavy on your knee? Sam?
Sure? But it's worth it. Come closer to you. How could I
do that? Sam? Your prize? Oh? Why not? I'm with
the biggest man in town. That makes me the biggest gap in time done.
It depends on you. Look at it. You're glad. Johnny Williams
is out of the way, almost as glad as you are. Yeah,
he didn't give you a rough deal, but you had nothing against Whitey Marrow.
No, I kind of liked him. He had a lot of funny
jokes. Honestly, tell me when I nearly died laughing that he was prised.
You're right about Johnny Williams died, Sigger, you read about it.
Oh, sure, I read about it. I can't figure it out,
but I read about it. You aren't the only one can't figure it,
Junny, Johnny Williams said, the only one I read about either, Sam.
I read about a fella Nam follow Vance. They say is working on
the case. Good. I like to see a fella have a job.
Oh, you're smarter than that sham. You know. Vance has got plenty
on the ball. Sure, but he's got nothing on me. Good enough
for now. But you know how your stud Jaska talks. He thinks a
slow He's always one sentence behind what you asked him. Sure, what about
it? Well? Vance, I here's just the opposite. He's thinking one
move ahead of you all. But I'm the gods practless. I wouldn't think
of trying to buy him off. Baby, he's kind of scare us too.
I wasn't thinking of trying to scare amore. He isn't deathless, is
he? I know vold everything, Markham. I haven't even begun my investigations
yet. I'll get back to you as soon as I can. Where are
you? As soon as I hang up this phone, I'm going out to
Johnny Williams's house, the House of mystery. What's the point? There's nothing
there, just a house. On the day of the murder was surrounded by
a sea of mudd. It's the same way right now. Then this rain
will see to that. But I want to question William's housekeeper. I understand,
I hope you understand that Sam Foster is the new underworld king of this
child, now that Williams Tomorrow did. Yes, I realized that, and
I hope to prove to be a little sunshine to mister Foster. You're going
to be a little sunshine to Foster. How do you mean you said he
was the king, didn't you? Well, weather reports to the contrary.
I'm going to try to see that he doesn't rain anymore. Hello in there,
anybody home? I could have sworn Wood Creek? Hello, Well,
I said, hello, My name is Filo Vance. You are Johnny Williams
housekeeper. Yes, rather chilly out here and more than a little wet.
May I come in if you like? Thank you, ah, keeping character.
I'm surprised you don't have an Angora cat on your shoulder. I hate
captain. May I ask your name? Missus Stewart what do you want here,
vance, missus Stewart, I'd like you to understand something well. Police
are convinced that mister Williams was killed by somebody who came into this house and
left it without leaving any footprints, even though this house is surrounded by mud,
and you're not convinced. Right before I knocked at the door, I
tried to think of how I could possibly get from the road to the porch
distance of about thirty feet without leaving any prints. And my footprints are in
the mud. It can't be done. Inasmuch as it can't be done,
my theory is that mister Williams was killed by somebody in this house. I
was in the house where the shots were fired. That's what I meant that
I shot him. Why not you had an opportunity, if you had a
motive, and you might very possibly have had a duck down. Did you
get hit? No? No, thank you for the morning. Never mind
that. Let's find whoever it is the fired at us. You stay here?
Where are you going out through the door? Shots came from the front
window. The killer may be outside. I'm going outside to see there are
floodlights that light up the entire yard. Wait a minute there. I mean,
if you're going out, I'm going with you very well, but staying
back on me. I don't see anybody? What else? Don't you see?
What else? Don't you see? I don't understand what you mean.
He set the footprints? Do you see in the ground? Vance? How
many? Yes? There's only one set leading to the house. Were with
me when someone broke the glass in the window and fired. Must have seen
a figure on the porch. You couldn't have worn me. Yes, that's
the situation you said was impossible, the same situation that occurred when mister Williams
died. You still think it's impossible, Vance, This is District Attorney Markham.
The Muddy Murder case began with the shooting of Johnny Williams racketeer. Although
his house was completely surrounded by mud, and although Williams was killed at close
range, we found no footprints in the mud. Nobody but Williams housekeeper was
in his home. We suspect a racketeer named Sam Foster Special. He says,
we think he killed another former ally. But Vance is in my office.
That's the story, Markham. I was in the house, so a
figure on the porch was there when the shots were fired. So I know
somebody cost thirty feet of mud without leaving any footprints. That settles it,
and doesn't it It can be done. Would it surprised you if I told
you that? Now, I'd think I know how it was done. Nothing
you tell me surprises me anymore. Vance you are not thinking of anything as
fantastic as a helicopter or some sort of flying opparatus? Are Markham? No?
No, I didn't think it. Were Having an idea and doing something
about it are two different things, though, This same buster Markham, the
man who takes over the town's rackets. What about him? It's reasonable to
believe that he killed Williams and Whitey Morrow too in order to get soul control.
Is he a college man? I'm sure I don't know. I'm sure
you could find out. Yes, I suppose. So if you think he
found a mathematical formula for reducing the thirty feet of mud to one foot and
stepped across it, no, that isn't it at all. Find out for
me if he went to college and what college it was he want to then
maybe I'll find out something for you. You know what I don't understand Junie,
girl, I don't understand why you don't like me? What are you
talking about? Asking? Don't understand that that's all I'm big. I'm an
important guy. I'm mister Force's right hand all right, So I ain't pretty.
Look you better outlet first to hear you. What am I talking about?
I'm talking about you win me, JUNI one half of that is very
interesting conversation, So forced the finds out. So what so you'll find out
which half for you wouldn't be? Is it the rest? Asking? You
didn't hear me say? Come? I said, cut it out of okay?
So I come to you? No, I thought that feel nice and
cozy being here by your say I'm the safe for yours. Trying to go
on the mix for on me what goes on? Ask her what do you
mean beauty and the beast? What does that mean? Beauty and the juny
look good to me? I tried to tell her. Try to show me.
I mean, I told you what would happen when I telld Sam what
did happen? Baby? You ain't so you ain't got to take this big
lug apart. Asker is a very important member of my organization. Julie Oh,
and I'm not out of my business organization and business you know, honey
always comes before anything else. Hello, Van, speaking this Van unquestionably.
Well, Van, you don't know me. Sometime you may realize how bad
that is. Well, in that event, let's make that some time right
now, No can do vance. Look, I read that you're working on
the murder of Johnny Williams. Like to know who killed him and Whitey Morrow,
Sam Foster. That's right? What did Foster ever do to you?
You mean? Why am I tipping you off? Yes? Because I'm playing
second fiddle to a gun crazy coon, That's why. But enough reason you
can prove that Foster killed Williams and Morrow. He killed Williams and he had
that gun crazy coon. I was telling me about kill Morrow. I was
Williams killed with all that mud surrounding his house search me. That would hardly
clarify the situation where you mean you don't know? That's right, I don't
know everything. What you've told me, miss is what the police and I
already suspect. Can you prove what you're saying? What's the mattering? I've
worked good enough? It is for me, but a jury is unreasonable.
It likes to have proved. Yes, but perhaps I can get that proof.
The district attorney found out for me that Foster went to state college.
Now you tell me where Sam Foster and his friend to be found apartments.
They gotta sweep. You go their advance and see that they get a headache.
What oscar? One thing you've got to stop askar A. You're listening
to me. Yeah, but the post, that's what I mean. You've
got to stop answering questions a minute after I asked them. I gotta stop
the answer the quick. Oh yeah, I get it. But but I
explained that to your hundred times. It takes a long time for me to
get things in my head by the time I do. You your your ask
can be something else. Oh I wish is you weren't so handy with an
automatic. By the way, keep away from June. That happens to be.
Happens to be what somebody at the door asking. Oh wait, that
just like people for once, I consent rate. Now I answer the question
you're asking, and you'll switch to something. Do you want me to get
the door? Get them next room. I'll take care of him. All
right, I'm coming. Well, I'm final Vans, you're a Sam Foster.
Yes, Now that we have the introductions out of the way, so
long, Fans. Congratulations strong man, he pushed open the door. What
are you going to do for an encore? Twist an iron bar around your
arm? Foster. There are a lot of things in the world I hate,
and you represent most of them. Murders, smugglness, disregard of other
people, Oscar, Oscar calling for help already, Foster, not thing like
being prepared. Only this help of mine takes a little time to understand things.
Oscar, did you call me mister y? Does look a little like
an apron? Wait until he realizes what you just said. Fans, you
will be the one who needs help. I look like what you look like.
Vans. Why don't you be a nice guy and get out of here.
Legs are nice things to walk around on. You shouldn't want yours broken.
I don't see anybody here that's capable of giving me even a little exercise.
Oscar. Got to work on him. What is it I look like?
Got to work on this guy? Make him sorry? He talks so
much? Now, Oh, go to wake on him. Why didn't you
say we was having a pody this is the thing the guys says, what
am I supposed to do? Roll over and place. Took him a little
while to realize he was not cold a Boston. Apparently you handled yourself pretty
good, dance, You mean pretty well, don't you, Foster? They
never taught you to say pretty good at State University, didn't they? What
about me in State? Nothing much. I'm just waiting for one little bit
of information, and the four years you've spent at State will seem nothing to
the years that State has reserved for you. Yes, that's fine, thank
you, thank you very much. Bye. Finally you got what you wanted.
Da Yes, Joe and I did. That was State college, And
as usual, Vance was right. I don't see yet how this solves the
Johnny William's murder mystery, but I'm sure Vance does you know. I think
Vance knows everything. Yes, I tried to tell that to say m Foster
him. That's one reason I think he took a shout at Vance out at
the William's house when Vance was talking to the housekeeper. Undoubtedly. As for
you, a young lady, I think now the Advance has sent you to
me. I better see to with that. You're taking care of you,
I mean placed in protective custody. Oh yeah, after I'm sure you're all
right, I'll meet Vance, and the two of us will go to see
Foster and Oscar. Me don't leave without arresting them. I don't feel safe
anymore, would either one of them around. When first he took off his
side, I had an idea, Let that big lug shoot me if it
would make him happy. That's why I went to Vance in the first.
Please, I understand everything will be all right for you June. After Vance
and I visit your former friends, it'll be all right for you and annoying
to a couple of men who are all wrong. It isn't that Oscar and
I aren't very honored by this visit. You understand, you're very kind.
It isn't often that a district attorney and a distinguished private investigator come to call
on us, Right, Oscar, never mind that nonsense, Foster. I
came up here to tell you that you and Oscar are going downtown with Markholm
and me. What's right, mister Pool, shout out, Oscar, I
will take you that slower Advance. What makes you think you can drag us
downtown on much charge? Murder, of course, murder of John Williams,
Mighty Morrow. Oh, I killed them both, Ada. According to our
information, you killed Williams and at Oscar shoot Morrow. I'm pretty sure the
information is right. Hold everything I've been Do you think I killed Williams when
you can't even think of how the guy was killed? You know somebody was
in his house, but there were no footprints leading to and from that house.
That's perfectly right, Foster. There weren't any because William's killer didn't walk
through the mud. He flew through it, put on wings and flew over
it. You're pretty close, But what's more important? So am I Remember
I asked you about State when I was here last, So mister Markham called
State found out some very valuable information in regard to your athletic activities in school.
Guys, no too much. Let's get the oscarre with me. Two
down advance. I'm sorry I had to shoot that Oscar, but it was
either him or me, and I'm selfish that way. I don't blame you
one bit, Markham. He's still alive and still able to stand trial.
I think you won't have to worry about getting a conviction. I don't believe
what you are here, and the girl's testimony not to mention the possibility that
they eat death bullets, and Williams and Morrow will match the guns belonging to
these individuals. I'm pretty sure will be all right. Pretty cute idea Foster
had for the Williams murder, wasn't it, no footprints saying? Very cute?
In fact, it was one of the most interesting gimmicks I've ever encountered.
Let's talk about it as soon as we take these two characters down to
headquarters. Wait a minute, Vance, I'll give you a light. There
you are, thanks, Markham. Now tell me what gave you the idea
that Sam Foster was an athlete. It was one way a man could get
over thirty feet of mud, Markholm, using a pole such as waters using
athletic meets uh huh, or run on the road. Insert the pole and
the mud for yourself. Up and out. You could land on Williams sports
without leaving any tracks. As soon as State told us that Foster had been
a pole vaulterer, I knew what your theory was, and he knew that
he was finished. As soon as we brought up the fact that we did
know, Yes, Marcolm, I'm very happy about the whole thing. It
really had me confused with quite a while. He undoubtedly followed me to the
William's place and tried to kill me when I was there questioning the housekeeper.
Uh huh oh, I thought for a minute it was she he was after.
It doesn't matter now as far as any killings or would be killings are
concerned. Foster and Oscar are finished, and you know, markolm So is
the Muddy Murder Case welcome back as final episodes go. I actually thought this
was pretty good. Fans got it to smack someone, and so you know
that that's like a key plot element at this point. The one thing that
I'm really dube is about it is the idea that you could jump over thirty
feet of mud. Maybe I think I'm dubious about the idea more from the
standpoint of a college athlete in his prime might be able to do this.
But from everything we heard in this episode, it had been quite a while
since the murderer had been in college, and I think that guys in their
thirties and forties who used to be college athletes generally cannot do the same things
that they could in their twenties, and sometimes they learned that the hard way.
Plus, it seems that doing this jump would leave evidence behind, particularly
with the mud surrounding the murder house. Also, I think that I recognized
the voice of stats Conchworth aka Casey from Casey Crime Photographer as the voice of
the murderer, so you can kind of hear anyway. How so many of
these actors who worked in New York radio shows, just like their Hollywood counterparts,
would go and work on other New York radio programs, although we have
less examples of this, just because we have fewer of the New York radio
programs and syndication, and that actually brings us to the end of Fillow Vans.
So my overall thoughts, honestly, if I had to choose one Filo
Vance series that I wanted more of, it would be the Jose fer Our
summer replacement series with Francis Robinson as his co star and sort of rival detectives.
I'd really love to hear more of that series, a lot more than
I would actually want to hear more of the syndicated show. Nevertheless, I
have mostly enjoyed this series with Jackson Back and George Petrie for the longest time,
this particular iteration of file events was on my I will not do the
series list, and that's because of many of the problems we've discussed with it,
and I think it's important to keep in mind. When I started The
Great Detectives of Old Time Radio, I was in my late twenties, and
I think that I was slightly more uptight, and you had a running theme
and a lot of pop culture and pop culture criticism where you had millennials.
I think this was mostly a millennial thing say that they enjoyed something, but
they only enjoyed it ironically. And this was set of things that I enjoyed
an ironically and that I thought this has artistic and moral merit to it.
And there were people who wrote about old time radio like that as well.
And in doing The Great Detectives, I wanted to highlight shows that were,
in my opinion, good. They could be funny, or they could be
dramatic, they could be in different styles, and that mindset. When I
listened to follow Vans, it really rubbed me the wrong way because the stories
were ridiculous in terms of the mysteries, and Vance's behavior was occasionally a bit
out there, but I, unlike other series, there seemed to be no
sort of self awareness of this, and so I wrote this off as not
a very good series. And I didn't revisit that decision for probably about a
decade, when I realized that we were running out of programs to do,
and I gave follow Vance another less and I think that I could see some
of the merit in the series, and we also got some stories where the
mysteries were maybe a little bit better than some of the really weak ones.
I think I'd lightened up a little bit and also came to respect just the
breadth of old time radio that's out there. And it's not all good,
but there's a wide variation in quality. This series is unique because despite the
writing being really dodgy at times, the actors really commit to the material.
And you've got some very talented corners in these series. You've got Jackson Beck
who has such a great voice, and I think he manages to make Filo
Van's work by just taking the script and saying, Okay, I'm gonna go
with this. You could say the same thing for George Petrie. As much
as I have looked fun at Da Markham over the course of the last two
years, Patrick does everything that an actor really could do with these scraps.
You have to say the same for the guests actors as well. But I
appreciate the acting and what they're able to bring out of these scripts, even
if so many of the stories and their solutions are a bit dodgy. And
as I'm in my forties, as I record this episode, I've gotten to
the point where if someone listens to this and assumes that old time radio detective
programs are like Filo vance and can only be enjoyed for acting, or only
enjoyed ironically or in a so bad it's good way, that's not really my
problem. There's such a great breadth of old time radio detective program and some
really fantastic ones that we've brought you and woken Dan you to bring you as
we continue along with the great detectives of old time radio. Now to listener
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the Salt City matter, where Ed Julian and another man I didn't recognize we're
sitting in chairs opposite each other, neither of the move to flick an eyelash.
We just set there, propped up, staring at each other. I
got closer and decided one could get surprised in Salt City. They weren't dead.
Dead men don't perspire, dead men don't have pulses, dead men don't
breathe. They were just kind of in between. If you will ever walk
into a house in Salt City and find two men just sitting in a room,
quietly staring at each other, and they aren't dead, turn around and
walk out. Don't fall down on your hands and knees and crawl around the
floor. I didn't. Don't start to laugh to yourself about nothing at all.
Don't get weepy and perspire, and don't prop yourself up against the wall
and wait for something to happen. And I could see somebody standing beside me,
looking down, and I couldn't move my arms and my legs, and
that's pretty funny. Somebody nice about it. Then it came to mean I
was doing the laughing. The noise was coming out of me. Somebody leaned
down and took my gun out of my shoulder holster. He was wearing gloves
and dark glasses on all at once. He had a face easy. I'll
just take this. I hope you'll be with us. Then in the meantime,
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