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You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience
podcast. I don't work, we go

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I waited this time. Come on, fool me once, Shame on me.

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Yeah, I was FOOLI one,
Shame on you. Fut me twice,

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shame on me. Whatever. Getting
Salty Experienced podcast it's the only one

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that brings all the stories from the
kitchen table, the apparatus floor, those

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late nights on the rig, in
the punk room, all those stories.

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We bring it to you, right
rough, Yeah, from the base.

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We definitely don't. I don't know
about the basement. Sorry, anybody huh

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ever take a trip to the basement
with anybody? Actually no, I didn't

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have to. I got out of
a couple pretty good. You know.

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You know what it is if you
if you present well right, you can

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you can back people down to you
know what I mean. I have the

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crazy face. You know, I
used to have the crazy eyes. So

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I think that worked for me and
the and the crazy a Guinea Italian uncle

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switch because it's like throwing a light
switch. He's read. We finally got

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this guy. Huh. This guy
he was he was doing the matress from

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when we first started. When we
first started, we said, who could

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we get. You know, when
you brought this idea to the about the

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show, we said, who we're
going to get? Right, who'd you

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say, said, Hank got Murphy
Kelly, you show you to say,

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mister Randy watching I heard that name
come up. But he always guy would

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never retire, No heed the service
bro, you know what I mean.

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They had to roll him out.
He just did retire right with two weeks

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ago something. A couple of weeks
ago he said he's finally absolute, he's

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actually out. You mean he was
at he was still chief in the volunteers

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and he was still teaching out at
in Suffolk. I believe. Wow,

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the guy who you know, we
had a lot of good stories with his

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fellow, very funny guy, just
laughing in the pre show right too.

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Got that head ahead and he's always
similarities there. He does have a very

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good he does. He's got a
little more soft than pepper now though.

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Yeah, he was a salt pepper
guy. He's always salt pepper, but

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now he's a little more so.
But he's salt. He's a salty guy.

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That's what are you drinking there?
Yeah, a little mother's milk drinking.

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I'm drinking, Uh, Jack Honey
Jack Daniels, honey tonight. Oh

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shit. You know, Roofy had
his sweet sixteen for his daughter this week,

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and I was it a lot of
he is but it was yeah,

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good you would do a number two
candles, you know, it was so

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funny. She didn't really give me
anything sixteen years. You know, I

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kind of think she hates me to
death. But yeah, but she gave

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the little speech. You know,
she was pulling out some stops there.

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I was surprised she actually was listening
to me. Yeah, did you have

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you have to wipe a couple of
while? Come on? You know me,

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I'm I'm a hot guy. So
it wasn't itthing like give a little

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shout out there? Yeah, Mellie
mouth, sweet sixteen, Happy birthday.

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That's awesome. Sweet sixteen you buddy. Mom had to be number one candle,

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right, she was number one.
You know what the last candle was?

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That was from my mom, my
dad and my phone law. That

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was everybody was balling. Oh she
was a bullet, but it was balling.

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Would you have a lot of eight
bomb a lot of bosh. We

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had a little chicken franchise of cost
had sugar Regonada. We had uh steak,

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had steak for the Irish, you
know, so let's go boil some

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meat and some potatoes. Came a
couple of taties. I'm not an animal.

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A couple of spaghetti. You had
Penney La vodka. Come on,

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you take the gun out. That's
what he went to the place last night.

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And that night he was like this. It's like, oh we had

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the time. He was a plane
in the background. You know, you

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gotta do it right, wonderful.
All right, listen, I want to

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get this guy in. He is. We've got a lot of stories to

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go over the bro so get get
to the commercials quickly. So we all

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then go clean the tools. All
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and we haven't seen him in a
while. This guy coming in hot,

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Mike coming in hot? What's going
on going on? Mike? Gentlemen?

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All right? Is that all we
got and we have ours. Lets

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you get skipped that one tonight.
Okay, let's skip it on. Just

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tell them how to get into the
stupid chat. They want to get the

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questions. You know what I mean. Yes, tonight is gonna be a

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great knife of the super Chat.
Everybody again, if you want to support

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the show, hit us up in
the super chat. If you have a

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question with mister for mister kellyton I, please do so in a super chat.

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That is the best way to get
him answered. Get that, Bro,

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I'll let you bring him in.
Get the man, do it all

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right? Uh, coming to the
stage. This is Uh Kevin and I's

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uh one of our favorite lieutenants that
we had the opportunity to work with and

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the privilege to work with, Lieutenant
Tim Kelly, who looks great. Definitely

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more so definite. We finally got
him, Bro. I had so many

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unanswed texts, Bro, and then
finally he reappeared out of nowhere. I

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don't know what happened. Well,
I was texting him. I had the

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wrong number. That's why I wasn't
answering. Maybe really liked me. Maybe

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we left that plot out, were
sending the texting their own number. But

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as a guest, like from random, all right, before we go to

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further you know, we got to
be patriotic before we get lost in the

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weeds over here. Yeah, we
was almost were doing so okay, stand

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by, here we go. I
pledge allegiance to the flag of the United

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States of America and to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all. Well, wonderful,

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what's the and we would be remissed? What is the word of the day?

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You're ready? Yeah, give it
a face? What it is?

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New? Wait, you didn't do
them, mister sadafest guy. All right,

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don't let I saw your finger this. I thought we were gonna didn't

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want to hit that one right out
of the box. That that story real

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quick because it was me. I
remember telling that story so many times because

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it was I. It was I
contact from Yeah, it was like it

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was stories, like a couple of
stories higher. So the story I believe,

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he don't think so, but should
be good. When when Lieutenant Kelly

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transferred to rescue far he was in
the squat a couple of years and then

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yeah, so when we were like
the strut when he left, right,

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but we understood he was going to
Big Blue. He was a rescue guy.

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We understood it. But he didn't
realize that we had Jerry Murphy,

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which was Hankstrom right. So of
course getting out to Long Island, any

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job going towards uh east end,
the Queens most of the time rescue far

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and us we would converge on.
They would take Queens Boulevard to the Lae

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or the Grand Sexual and we would
jump right on the Lae because we were

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right there. And the l A, even back then was just packed all

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the time. Right. So we
were getting on the highway and there's a

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couple of spots on the highway where
you can get off on the service road.

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You can come up right, there's
three lane, six lanes. It's

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like this, right. So they
came around from Queens Boulevard and they were

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going up the ramp to get onto
the Lye and Murf saw that it was

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packed. I don't know, you
know, I mean he was always packed.

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But he did some concoction maneuver and
he came down low Wood and jump

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around. Come up. Now we're
on the service road and there's never any

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traffic really over there, but the
l Ie is up high like it's up

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like right now. I remember,
so, um, I got my arm.

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I'm behind Murf and we're going out
east and I look up on the

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l I E. I see lights, I look up and he looks down

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at me, and it was just
kind of pretty, you know. Soon

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after he retired pretty close and he
looked at me and he was just like,

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you know, like from Seinfeld.
He was like you. And then

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we kept calling him that for a
while because I mean we were always trying

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to beat them in. They were
always trying to beat us in. It

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was you know where yeah, hello, thank you. Oh yeah, that

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was I remember I was talking about
that, like when he looked down at

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me and he was just because listen, in the end, if there's work

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to be done, whoever gets there
first generally will get the more of cherrav

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you know. So we renamed Jerry
not Hagstrom's. We called them Magellan because

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damn city anywhere anywhere incredible. Jerry
know, I got it all right,

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yes, and he did. Yeah, he would. We would never waste

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any time like other chauffeurs. We'd
look at the map right see which way

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we were gonna go, or they
would get started and then we would have

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the maps in the back. It
would be like he missed the first two

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job, like right down the block. For me, that time is out

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the window. It's out the window
over here. Why do you go?

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What other light? God? Bless
him? I love that guy. But

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yeah, we're gonna have a lot
of quick stories tonight. Yeah, let's

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get out to Lieutenant Kelly's career.
Where is my hold on him? Minute?

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Hold on him? Oh my god, that's a funny, my fair

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short already on my face? All
right, here we go, all right,

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t K. So before we get
started, we want to know what

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made you get into the FIST service? Any family on any and that's a

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great story. I could I could
eat up an hour on that one.

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All right. So out on the
Suffolk County where I grew up, I

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had my really my best friend out
here. Um, his dad was a

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chauffeur and rescue four. So he
says to me, and we're fifteen years

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old, do you want to coin
and ride with my dad? And I

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had no idea what that meant,
so I was like, yeah, sure.

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So we went in and did a
night tour and rescue four and it

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was incredible. We went to multiple
fires. There were jump as people threw

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a mattress out and the guy threw
his whole family out and jumped. It

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was like Holy crap. I mean, I'm fifteen years old. It was

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just like insane. And then I
go back home and I'm like, they

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pay guys to do this. This
is the best show on earth. So

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I kind of made it my mission
to get on the job and I was

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looking all over the place. And
then once I was on the job,

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I always had it that I wanted
to go to Rescue four in some capacity,

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and I did it. And the
lieutenant that was working that night we

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had had to jump as John Dillon. Oh my god. I called him

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up when I was one of the
first night to us there and I just

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said, hey, John, and
do you know who this is? And

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he goes, I know who it
is. He had an incredible dungaree jacket

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that had um adult beverages that were
always available. And I said, I

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tossed the office. I can't find
it. Where is it in my trunk?

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And you can't have it. But
it was really quite an honor for

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me to make it all the way
back. And uh so you weren't even

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a volley at this time. I
was a pre volley fireman. And then

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I was like, you know this, this guy was a friend of mine.

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And then I did go into the
volleys and uh before he got on

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the job. Yes, and you
have to hide it, you know.

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And I did have a party at
my house and I invited all the guys

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from thirty eight truck there and lo
and behold that silly radio went off when

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they were all there, and they
looked at me ner a volley and I

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kept it from him for years.
So they were just like, that makes

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perfect sense now, you know,
So that that the lieutenant, that that's

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the duke, right, that is
the duke, right. So I have

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I have posted so many pictures of
him. Guys have sent me. His

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helmet was like this little roofing shingle. That what I used to see his

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helmet on it. I mean,
he had no visors, right, it

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was just like this little coops.
It's like a yamica, right, you

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know. It was incredible, the
box on a camp fire on the head.

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It was like and every picture he's
like talking to the chief and you

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know the chief is just listen like
I hate hate that helmet. Right.

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Yeah, oh well he was thinking
that. But now is that the duke

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that they talk about in Brooklyn,
Because they talk about a guy to duke

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in Brooklyn. That was different.
That's different. That's a guy from one

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eleven Ironx guy as a fire and
you know, um, well it had

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to be doing the seventies a Bronx
guy because he was when you went there,

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it was probably like so this would
have been the seventies as a lieutenant

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and four wow maybe yeah, you
know he's in uh saw him, you

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know it just recently. So there
was definitely was an incredible uh to go

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complete circle to circle. Now I'm
in my late late the forties getting back

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to rescue four and and just you
know a lot of folks didn't even realize

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that. You know, I always
had that on my radar. I didn't

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know that story. Yeah, I
would have felt so bad. You guys

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are so destruct you threw my stuff
out the window. I help him,

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I help you probably did. Did
the Duke's son get on the job,

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I don't. I don't know.
Well, no, it's one son is

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a Suffolk police officer and um yeah, because I went to his wake and

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all, and uh, you know
he came around in nine to eleven.

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He was he was in credible uh
uh calming force with us, you know,

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and he's still alive. No,
he passed. He passed. Yeah,

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but uh, yeah, I don't
know where the hell that Dan Helmett

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is and the dungaree jacket they I
think they went with him, you know,

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so I'd have to get the jacket
back. Do you have any other

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family on the job. I don't
know. No, you me. You

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know, my middle son is um
he's on the job in Greenwich. Um

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so, um yeah, it's it's
pretty wild. He loves it a lot.

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And uh, you know, I
brought both my sons in to ride

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and rescue four and and Milner could
back this up. On his last day

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tour, they uh on the job. He went out. We convinced Mike

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to go out front to take a
picture and my boys bucketed him. And

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he didn't think it was that funny. But oh, you know, you

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know, my sons were probably thirteen
and maybe fifteen then, or maybe a

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little younger. But what's going on
now? The you don't like it got

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him good too. It was really
the perm back then. Probably he didn't

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want to hear him, I said, probably could have broke his knees,

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you know that. But yeah,
you took the test that uh that got

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held up with the women, right
in the seventy something tests. That was

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a difficult test. Yeah, it
was really wacky. Yeah, yeah,

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physical was even more. That's what
the mile run, the mail sack,

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up the stairs, the ledge walk, the eight foot wall was really a

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man. They got to bring that
sucker back. That eliminated a lot of

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phonies. Yeah, imagine jumping over
that now, Yeah, yes, I

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could, Actually I could imagine it. I won't be able to do it,

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but I would. Oh my goodness, you're keeping yourself in shape these

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days. I'm you know, I
got hooked on the peloton thing and uh

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you know good yeah, so um, well, you know, I mean,

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it's all good until it's not good. You know, he's got the

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rescue Force fan dex with the leg
worms, the blue leg womans, right

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slash dance you all right, let's
drow a picture of his probably class because

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he was in there with a famous
guy. Here we go, they're all

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famous. Who was in there besides
you? That? I see you there,

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he's in the middle, in the
lower middle. And then the guy

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who's at the bottom with his thumb
up in the air. That guy I

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never seen him before. That's the
bush. We can get him on.

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Tell the story about what you said, and uh yeah, so we uh,

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you know, we're sitting there just
trying to get to know each other.

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This was my squad and it's I
don't know whether it's graduation or whatever

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the hell's going on. But um, early on in probi school, Steve

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confides in us and says, I
don't even want to be a fireman.

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I just need a paycheck. I
want to be an actor. And like,

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you know, when all of a
sudden, like the pancakes stop in

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mid air and they're just like,
what did you just say? You got

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tell another soul? They're gonna they'll
drown you. What do you mean?

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So um, but it turns out
we got another photograph of we're utilizing him

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as a battering ram on the door, you know, and it's very funny.

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We're just picking him up. So
um, he didn't change much,

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you know. He's a great guy
then, and uh, you know ten

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years fifty five, right, yes, yes he did, he did ten

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years or whatever he did, so
it was terrible. He stayed ten years

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and he still comes. Yeah,
it's a good guy. Absolutely. The

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job grew on him. Why not, right? How could it not?

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Who else was in that picture anybody. Yeah, Dennis Devlin's in there.

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Um you know there's uh billy album. You know there's uh you know some

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of these guys. It's funny how
you just keep crossing. So the other

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guy, uh, John Roy,
the older guy with the mustache in the

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middle. I think he had like
four kids. Oh he went up.

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I got held up because I wasn't
even twenty one yet, so I would

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have had to wait for this class
anyway. And a matter of fact,

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out of the hundred, I think
sixty of us just turned twenty one.

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Oh you know, they tried to
do to the real march with us.

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I think the guy swallowed his tongue
at probi school and almost died. None

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of us were in the military.
Uh, we didn't even know what dress

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right dress it was. They gave
up. They just so it was during

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the winter. I shoveled more snow
with those banjo's. Uh that that's all

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they did. Last I didn't shovel, you know. So it was John

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He went up to the green Berets
right in the barn. Team didn't roll

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go up to the bronx when yes
it did. Yeah, a lot of

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us were. It was. It
was la, you know, in our

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class. So we just kind of
went where over time was running. So

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they just kind of broke us up. But uh yeah, we were in

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this tiny, tiny locker room and
it was really quite funny, you know,

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us one hundred guys and it was
probably a twenty by twenty space.

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I think the Custodian uses it in
Building nine. It was they were really

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it was quite unique. But uh, like I said, we were still

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wearing the yellow slickers, um,
you know, the raincoats and the Civil

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Defense yellow helmets. Oh my god. It was just I think they lent

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us old boots. That was the
only thing we had that looked like fireman.

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Wow. So did you get did
you have a hook? How did

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you How did everything work? I
thought I had a hook. I was

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supposed to go to Queens a family
friend, and uh, all of a

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sudden it comes up eighty eight and
I'm like, where the hell is eighty

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eight? You know, I was
a Long Island boy, and so they're

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just like, oh, you're gonna
love this place, you know, and

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I'm like wow. And then of
course you go there and the museum it's

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it's it's incredible. It's on the
National Archive of Historical The Yeah, cool,

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walk in there. It's a museum. I worked there two times.

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You walk into you don't want to
touch anything. You wipe your feet before

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you come in. It's incredible.
I've heard you talk about it in the

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past. It's like picture here,
you know as the Bronx brickyards Um.

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You know, it was all these
vacant buildings. It was. It's a

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great company. And when you look
at a map at the Bronx, it's

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almost dead center. So I don't
know, they had some hooks in the

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communications office. We were like on
it. We used to have that old

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loose leaf book on multiple alarms and
you could tell when they transmitted if there

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was anything that was a third alarm, and the Bronx just about we were

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on it. I don't know who
we paid off, but it was great.

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As as a young farmer an engine
we were going to everything. You

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know, what was it like looking
at those buildings coming from Long Islands,

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Like when you first went into that
area where you just like, yeah,

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it was just it was blocks of
them. This is probably down by forty

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five Engine and ben Eyes and just
by the Cross Bronx and then they would

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burn and then you know, all
the stairs were all m they already gutted

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them for whatever, scraped the holes
in the floor. It was just like

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incredible. And then they would take
the fire escapes out just to reduce the

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number of people. And then you'd
be in there and folks would be like,

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I'm in here, I'm back.
You're like these things they were never

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unoccupied, you know, there was
always uh, you know, taking out

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the cinder block. Um. Just
the Bronx training towers, you know,

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as they were just a great opportunity
to go to a lot of a lot

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of fires and uh, really get
good engine work. I mean the Clorox

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bucket with a rope, and it
was an invaluable tool of going up to

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an upper floor and dropping that sucker
out and getting a line up stairs really

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fast. You know it was it
worked when the stairs are all burnt out

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pretty much. And then whoever got
up there first, you know, it's

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like you gotta be you gotta be
agile, you know. And uh,

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and then the four point fives were
just coming out, um so wearing a

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mask. They were like it was
funny. There was a lieutenant's test coming

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up. We were always being asked
you know, what did they go over,

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what did they emphasize what? You
know, the the mask policy was

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coming out and h it was the
backstep was wasn't taboo just yet? And

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uh um we were still doing in
the chain when I got there. But

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they would lie about how many runs
you had. Allegedly we wouldn't have to

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interchange, right. They asked how
many jobs you went to? The bosses

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would say two. Meanwhile they were
at four of them with us. You

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know what it was like? So
your first job team, Um, I

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do actually and uh it was pretty
funny because it was on the north side

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of the Cross Bronx Expressway and I
was a volley so um it was a

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vacant row of stores. We were
second to engine, second alarm on arrival,

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and they told me to jump up
on the deck gun because it was

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that volume of fire and the particular
chauffeur, Um, he was priming the

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pump. He couldn't get water.
And I'm up there roasting away and I

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could see the cover, the hostbed
covers starting to stretch and melt. I'm

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melting up there, and I could
see the lenses on the lights are starting

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to get a little uh weepy,
and they're like, hold on, we

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got to move the rig. So
all I kept saying to myself, so

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this is how the big boys doing. They melt the sheepishly, climbed down

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and just say, uh, what
else can we do? And they like

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just just help stretch the line,
you know. But I do remember that

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with so it's with great humility,
you say, Oh, even the big

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guys make mistakes, you know,
your first shot. Um. I stayed

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there three years and I had an
opportunity to go to the truck. Anytime

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it was a detail, I would
go to the truck and I just loved

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it. Um. I mean just
working in the truck is just opportunity to

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just do everything, every position,
every building. It just um you know,

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with all books and what to do
on what type building, it's just

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it doesn't get boring. Uh,
And I just enjoyed. We were a

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rear mount company in thirty eight,
and um, you know it was great.

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A lot of times they'd transmitted greater
alarm because it was going badly and

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they'd be calling tower ladders and uh
they'd be like thirty eight, you guys

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could take up because it was gonna
be an all nighter you know, so

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it was kind of like did we
do something wrong and they're like, nah,

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we don't need you. So it
was how was the response area compared

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to the engine, Like you run
into a lot a lot more engines,

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right than that than with the truck
aut on runs without the engine the truck.

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Yeah, it's funny. We did
have different boxes and stuff. Um,

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you know where the truck would go. M but the engines was pretty

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good, you know, the eighteenth
Italian and then they brought forty eight and

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fifty six in with us, so
um, you know, if we went

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to the West, we ran in
with seventy five and thirty three and forty

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eight and they when they moved six
truck up. Um. But it was

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yeah, it was great. You
know, a lot of row frames as

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we nicknamed them row f aimes.
I just loved those suckers top floor fires

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type. I nicknamed them sneak of
fires because you were just running around with

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you know, get the line over
here, get the line. You know.

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We would bring two hooks because the
trucks would just you know, they

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were stretched to the limit of just
trying to pull ceilings and uh so you

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just did a truck work as an
engine man, and it was it was

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great. They are that's that's their
first do you know. It's so we

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were on a between one hundred and
eighty three hundred and eighty fourth see great

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shopping. You know that's the best. You have. You got the work

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and you have you know the food. Yes, yeah, and oh it

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was just yeah, it was.
It was fantastic, you know in all

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the holidays there, it's just uh, yeah, it was good. It

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was good. You know, Italian
neighborhood. And I looked like I had

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some Italian blood in me and you
know to be like, you look like

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a nice boy. What's your name? When I said I'm going to ruin

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your day? Timothy you're talking about. Yeah, it was a great,

409
00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:12.319
great, great hub to be first
dude at the zoo and uh you know

410
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:18.440
Fordam University was right there, so
it was it was very pretty diverse neighborhood

411
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:22.200
of buildings. I mean we had
everything, you know, probably the only

412
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:27.079
thing we didn't have was subways,
but everything was elevating. Yeah. Who

413
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.839
was some of the guys you remember
that stick out to you that well in

414
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:36.960
the engine, Um, you know, tough Timmy. Yeah, I saw

415
00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.319
that pop up, and uh,
it was so funny. He would he

416
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.880
busted my horns. You know.
He kept asking me, um, well,

417
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.160
he asked me once, get me
the probably, get me the serial

418
00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:51.839
number off the tires. So I'm
like, serial number, What the hell

419
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.240
they got serial numbers? Yeah,
I need the serial numbers. So I'm

420
00:31:55.240 --> 00:32:00.160
crawling under the rig. So I
wrote them down because I figured that not

421
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:04.279
going to change him very often.
So about four or five months later,

422
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.000
it must have been his only you
know thing that he had all the time.

423
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.519
He says, give me the serial
numbers off the tie. So I

424
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.039
went to my locker and I got
the numbers and he said, you got

425
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:15.160
him that fast. I said,
I wrote him down the first time.

426
00:32:15.160 --> 00:32:22.720
You think he didn't like that answer? Did you say? Knew me?

427
00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:34.519
Damn it. So we were going
on a family vacation, my wife and

428
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.119
I and she brought in cookies and
uh, she gave something tough, timmy,

429
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:42.039
And if I would have known that, I would have had her come

430
00:32:42.119 --> 00:32:44.680
the first day to work with me, because then after that I couldn't do

431
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:52.160
any wrong with him. So he
wasn't that tough, you know, Coe,

432
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.640
It was. It was pretty funny. He was in the engine.

433
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.000
Yeah he was the engine boss,
you know, I mean it was it

434
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.720
was probably in his if he's still
on the hockey team, you know.

435
00:33:01.480 --> 00:33:06.759
Wow. I mean he got a
fistfight at a job once. I think

436
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:13.240
he was acting battalion and uh nice
and you know the deputy comes in and

437
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:15.160
they're like, do you want to
uh you know, bring him up on

438
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:22.680
charges and he goes no. The
guy shows great spirit. He appreciated getting

439
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:30.079
punched in the face. I guess
nothing. He definitely did not. Uh

440
00:33:30.359 --> 00:33:34.599
he earned it and uh you know
he was He was a tough old Irish

441
00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.960
boss who was like who was the
captain in the truck at that time?

442
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:42.240
You remember, Um, there was
several that came through. Um, Joe

443
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:46.319
Morevic was when I went across the
floor and um, then we had a

444
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:51.279
few others. Tom Cherry was there. Um, you know, great great

445
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.920
role models. Um. One of
the lieutenants in UH eighty eight was Kevin

446
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:59.920
Burns. Uh. You know it's
like when you get promoted or even you're

447
00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:02.839
your whole stick as a fireman,
you just kind of you steal from,

448
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:07.160
you know, some other guy's acts
and you're like, I like what he

449
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:10.800
does. I like you know Kevin
was. If he knew Tough Timmy was

450
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.519
coming in, he'd come downstairs.
He'd take his shirt off and he says,

451
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:16.639
come on, come on, let's
let's get a card game going.

452
00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:21.280
Let's let's get this going. And
he'd like shuffle papers all over the desk

453
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.119
like he didn't do anything all day, and we'd make it look like we're

454
00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:30.039
playing cards all day, just to
I go, this is a lieutenant busting

455
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:38.480
and Captain Horn make this up.
But uh, you know great boss Kevin

456
00:34:38.519 --> 00:34:43.679
Burns was. That was Frank Montagnier. He was the chief at the Rock

457
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.280
and uh so you know he was
a lieutenant there. He came out of

458
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:51.719
the Upper east Side thirteen truck.
Uh so you know he went on to

459
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.199
bigger and better things. But you
know a lot of a lot of good

460
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:58.800
guys running in with twenty seven truck
um fifty eight. I know you had

461
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.840
McCluskey on some episodes ago, and
that's a big dude. Oh man,

462
00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:05.800
he is. He is. You
know, the guy eats glass for you

463
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:07.800
know, because nothing else. It's
a sad hog, right, wasn't he

464
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:12.440
s? Yeah? And Devil was
yeah whole you know they forty five and

465
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:15.920
fifty eight. They had a few
of them, so yeah, it was

466
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:21.880
sure being twenty one years old I
work with. I mean, Leo Faccassi

467
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.519
was a World War Two vet.
U was in then U on the UH

468
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:34.000
Patton. He was served in North
Africa and liberating Italy. Uh um.

469
00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:37.920
You know, Marino was a career
war vet. One guy was you know,

470
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:44.639
World War two Iwajima uh several Vietnam
vets and they took great liberties.

471
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:45.719
A bust of my horns, like
what did you do? And I said,

472
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:47.480
well, well, you guys were
all doing that. I was learning

473
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:52.760
how to ride a bicycle. Thank
you for your service. You know,

474
00:35:52.920 --> 00:35:55.000
it was nothing going on. I
was a you know, it was a

475
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.800
punk, you know. And what
we say all the time, those guys,

476
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:00.239
Coop says it all the time,
like those guys. When you work

477
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.360
with those guys, If those guys
were in those situations, there ain't nothing

478
00:36:05.639 --> 00:36:07.880
that they're going to see here,
and it's really gonna make them. You

479
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.559
know, you just learned to be
calm, right, You learned to be

480
00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.400
to handle that, you know,
or any situation that's coming at you.

481
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.320
You learn to handle it because you're
dealing with those types of guys all the

482
00:36:17.360 --> 00:36:21.320
time. Yeah. I mean this
one guy in the truck, Jimmy Marino,

483
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:24.679
I happen to look down at is
the year he got assigned to thirty

484
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:30.000
eight and it was the year I
was born. And his uniform had absolutely

485
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:36.480
nothing on it. And I'm like, jim every Christmas I can remember,

486
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.320
you've been bringing you're sorry butt into
this firehouse and he goes, you're a

487
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:44.360
punk, Kelly. But the guy
was great. He was always the irons

488
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:51.119
man. He was the great guy
to learn under, you know, and

489
00:36:51.159 --> 00:36:54.639
they all were. They really really
set the pace for you know, how

490
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:59.760
you behave and uh. But I
just always admired the fact that, you

491
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:04.280
know, you'd make a grab and
just no big deal. Yah, and

492
00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:07.800
uh he didn't need to write up, he didn't need anything, and he'd

493
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:12.800
just be like just quietly go about
his job. So I like that act.

494
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:15.280
And uh, I just try to
emulate a lot of those guys.

495
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.840
Well you will live, you will
live in a life there twenty one years

496
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.159
old and a busy company. It
was great, it really was. I

497
00:37:23.199 --> 00:37:27.920
had I had a grand time.
I really did. I h that's a

498
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:30.480
great house to go to right out
of this Yes, and how did I

499
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.199
get it? I think tough Timmy
just you know, he went that you

500
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:37.840
picked three of us. One guy
was a contract U me and another guy

501
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.119
would just probably. I think we
were next to each other under the order.

502
00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:46.880
We know how you got it.
I should have sent my wife,

503
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:52.840
like I said, your time.
Speaking of your wife, how long were

504
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.079
you there before? You were you
with her? When? Yep? And

505
00:37:55.079 --> 00:38:00.960
then I got so I got married. Uh went across the floor and uh

506
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.639
in the same month, and uh, you know it was so nice.

507
00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:07.920
They detailed me back to the engine
for thirty days because I had a red

508
00:38:07.960 --> 00:38:13.320
shield working in eighty eight, so
no way. Yeah, so it was

509
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.639
but it was all good. Um
married forty years this year, so oh

510
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.039
yeah, I'd say it worked out. I'd say, so agree. Any

511
00:38:23.079 --> 00:38:27.599
any particular job that stand out to
you while you were in in the truck,

512
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:32.960
Um, not really up there,
you know. Um, you know

513
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:38.719
there was jobs, but I mean, you know thirty eight was, um

514
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:44.440
the Happy Land Social Club. I
wasn't working, but um, I know

515
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.519
the importance of BI because that was
in a BI district and uh the captain

516
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.719
m was Walter Brett and uh it
was interesting. They weren't even back from

517
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:59.639
the job yet and two guys came
in and suits and pulled the folder before

518
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.840
you know, the relocates are in
there. And they went up to the

519
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:07.440
office and helped themselves to the bi
folder. And thankfully we had well died

520
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.119
or he had well documented attempts to
get in there. So that was h

521
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.400
he did an outstanding job of you
know, doing the right thing by the

522
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.159
fire department and the city. You
know that we were so they then created

523
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.960
that task for us after that,
the social club task for us, and

524
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:27.639
uh so uh but no, it
was just um, we were very very

525
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:31.480
familiar with the place and and just
those type things. And Paul Sman had

526
00:39:31.480 --> 00:39:36.000
the pipe at that job, right
he did, Yeah what was he working?

527
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:38.960
Have been? Right? Yeah,
they would literally almost could see it.

528
00:39:39.039 --> 00:39:43.159
So it's right on Southern Boulevard.
You know, we were second d

529
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.679
there. But I just you know, the the the incredible number of people

530
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:52.760
killed was just um seven right,
the seven people perish, right, Yeah,

531
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:59.480
yes, so it was um,
you know, it's it's all uh

532
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.400
you know, you you're going along
having a great time and then you you

533
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.239
you know, just seeing the impact
that had on the guys that worked it.

534
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.440
I was kind of glad I wasn't
there, you know, because uh,

535
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:12.639
you know it was like one of
these things, well who's got that

536
00:40:12.679 --> 00:40:17.119
many body bags? And they're like
the port authority does so uh Unfortunately we

537
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:24.519
became skilled in large body counts and
they were like, oh so uh it

538
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:30.440
was an incredible an eventment that it
wasn't working, but um, going through

539
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:32.360
it and just seeing it, I
was kind of kind of glad I wasn't

540
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.639
You guys probably went back there and
looked at the building every day, right,

541
00:40:36.800 --> 00:40:39.000
We absolutely did. And you know, you know, it's actually kind

542
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:42.760
of good therapy for the folks that
were there, the firefighters, you know,

543
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.679
for us and the guys, and
then getting them to retell his story

544
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.960
to us and and just you know, you're just silent and it it actually

545
00:40:51.039 --> 00:40:54.239
is is probably good for them that
they they just kind of describe what they

546
00:40:54.599 --> 00:41:00.679
what they went through, y rothe
who do We just had somebody on that

547
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.639
we were talking about how great the
job is and the last and everything,

548
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:07.119
but the job I could turn on
a dime and be serious as a heart

549
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:08.960
attack in a second and humble you
in the second. Who who is that

550
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:12.800
that we had on that was saying
that I mean a lot of people say

551
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:15.360
that. I mean, everybody knows
that, right, but somebody just you

552
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:17.519
know, they brow up a good
point and I forget what it was,

553
00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:22.199
but they were saying the same exact
thing. I can't remember of it was

554
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:27.239
very recently, though. I do
remember that you have a lot of fun

555
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.280
in the firehouse, but you can
humble you on. I wasn't that was

556
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:32.920
the old school tip. Wasn't that
the old school tip? Remember, you

557
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.679
ought to make it one Hell,
here we go. What's that? Uh?

558
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.320
Somebody asked the question and that let
me go back over it. Oh

559
00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:45.199
yeah, here we go. Oh
there it is. I'm sorry it takes

560
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:47.599
twenty years to ask what was killed
in Brothers in Battle? Were you in

561
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:53.400
Brothers in Battle? Um? It
was going on while I was up there.

562
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:58.719
So Brian Hickey um was filming,
you know, in while he was

563
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:02.199
in thirty eight and then ask you
for so um, like when you guys

564
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:07.039
were asking do you have any pictures? Uh, that's one of the things

565
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:09.440
like if somebody broke out a camera, I went the other way, you

566
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.599
know. So Uh, it was
funny when you see things like that going

567
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:16.400
on. So I was, I
was, you know, making faces in

568
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:21.280
the background to the guys they were
filming and stuff and uh, but I

569
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.239
remember when that came out. I
was in Probi school ninety three when that

570
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:30.960
came out. I could not get
enough of that film. You ain't heavy.

571
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:37.519
He's incredible. I mean it's it
really is uh, I mean just

572
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:42.079
the information he gave out too,
like in each borrow Right, I was

573
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.400
school. They showed that in prob
school. I remember, right, it's

574
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.880
it's really is timeless. It's it's
so well done and uh, you know

575
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.000
it's I never even realized it was
him, like until many years later,

576
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.800
many of the years later. Yeah, getting back to it quick, he's

577
00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:59.719
in that. There's a lot of
good ones in there coming with all the

578
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:10.000
as remember he was in he got
the huge bona for that one. That

579
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.800
one. There's a question I've been
meaning to ask you, So, at

580
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:21.039
what point do you decide to go
to the rescue at number two? The

581
00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:24.119
follow up question is, if you
wanted to do the rescue four thing,

582
00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:29.199
why did you go to Rescue one
as a fineman and not for h good

583
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:34.199
question. Um, yeah, it's
a good question. So you know,

584
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:40.159
going to Rescue one is just an
incredible company. Um, you know my

585
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:46.119
wise crack answer. When you go
there and you talk to folks from other

586
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:52.639
rescues, you go there's other rescues, so UM, to me, there's

587
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:57.559
only the one. UM, you
know working in Manhattan is I'm so glad?

588
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:00.599
So why didn't I go to like
even why did you go to three?

589
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:04.039
Why didn't you go here? Um? I just want to go to

590
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:07.480
a place that was so different from
what I was doing, and Midtown Manhattan

591
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:15.400
was completely different, and UM,
I'm just glad I went there. Fantastic

592
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:21.840
company, great reputation, really got
um you know, I had eleven years

593
00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:25.599
on the job. It just at
that point I was I was comfortable in

594
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:30.320
the truck and then I'm like,
all right, what more can I do?

595
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:37.360
And when you get you're going into
sock and you got thirty people of

596
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:43.519
like minded uh that just want to
do more. It just makes it a

597
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:50.360
great job where everybody is just trying
what more can I do for my company?

598
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:52.400
You know? What more can I
do for the new guy? What

599
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.199
more can I? And um,
just being the best of your game at

600
00:44:55.239 --> 00:45:01.599
all times. So I really got
it in one and yeah, good god.

601
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:07.159
Yeah. So the giant Ray Philips
from Rescue three, you know.

602
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:14.159
So so that's why Angeline he's climbing
up on the bumper because he was who's

603
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:17.480
the other guy, who's the blodhead
guy? Uh Neil Frederickson. So uh

604
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:21.920
he he was in my proby class
as well, different squad, but he

605
00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:28.320
just retired not too long ago.
So um, moha right father Baldwin,

606
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:37.079
you know he's yeah. So what
was the what was the process like getting

607
00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.960
who was the captain? It was
impossible, um, you know because the

608
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:46.880
captain he didn't care for Bronx firefighters
at all. Who who was the captain?

609
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:54.360
Then? Briano Flaherty So um it
was you know, many cheesecakes and

610
00:45:55.199 --> 00:46:00.360
you know, bakery products and so
he had been a did the captain's rep

611
00:46:00.440 --> 00:46:06.639
to the union and I knew he'd
be taking a leave of the company.

612
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:08.639
So I said, cap, I've
been buttering you up for two years.

613
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:14.079
You got to bring me over,
you know. So it was his he

614
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:16.519
uh he brought me over and left, you know, and they're like great,

615
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:21.280
so uh but you know what you
miss it? You should have brought

616
00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:25.440
your wife's cookies. Well come out
to the garage bar. Well, well

617
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:30.239
I was, uh, you remember
when you first met Hankel. Yeah,

618
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.960
it was in one, you know, and uh yeah it was it was

619
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.159
good. Iran was there, Kevin
Shay. So I went like two weeks

620
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:45.320
after Kevin's uh you know, the
rope rescue and uh so the media frenzy

621
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:51.480
was you know, incredible. Um, which was even better because then I'd

622
00:46:51.559 --> 00:46:52.440
see them show up and I'd go
back in the kitchen, you know,

623
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:55.920
and go do something. You know. But uh, you know, it's

624
00:46:57.079 --> 00:47:00.599
it's quite a place that how many
visitors you get, and if you're not

625
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:02.920
into that entertaining them, being respectful
of them, you know, just showing

626
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.039
them the rig and and just it's
it's almost NonStop. You know. I

627
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:10.960
can only imagine after nine to eleven
with those guys were probably just they should

628
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.119
have just moved to a different address. We've moved. Oh my god.

629
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.159
Yeah, it was Look at what
it was like for I mean where we

630
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:20.440
were, it was crazy. So
can't imagine, like you said, I

631
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:22.480
can't imagine what it was like over
it was. Oh I worked at quite

632
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:27.039
a few times and it was back
and in. It was just like people

633
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.840
waiting outside all the time to Yeah, we would fake runs if we saw

634
00:47:30.960 --> 00:47:35.000
like too many buffs out yeah,
take a picture of radios and like what's

635
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.000
going on? Like, I just
you know, you know I always see

636
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.199
those things on social media. Yeah, I went to New York. I

637
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.199
knocked on the door. I mean
you know they they were coming. Yeah,

638
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:45.679
yeah, dude, yea to go
there and have that happened. You

639
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:50.119
know, this isn't a T shirt
store, right, I mean this is

640
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:52.239
a freaking firehouse, you know what
I mean. So I get it both

641
00:47:52.280 --> 00:47:55.199
ways, but you know, yeah, I gotta say, though, a

642
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:58.880
couple of times that did work in
rescue one. Like, like you said,

643
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:00.840
though, there was something. It's
just like a feeling like you're driving

644
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.880
through Times Square in the back of
rescue ones. It's like there's nothing else

645
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.079
comparable. There's nothing like it.
Right, You're photographed a million times and

646
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.320
this was before cell phones. Now
yeah, right, could you imagine now?

647
00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.440
Just you know, it's it's uh, it's really pretty funny, you

648
00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:20.280
know when you when you get down
to it, you know, what where

649
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:24.280
are you on the wall? Well, I don't know what do you think?

650
00:48:24.360 --> 00:48:30.039
You know? Which ropes? I'm
the guy with the one wheel wheelbarrel

651
00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:35.440
of garden cart, you know,
because I used to do carpentry. Every

652
00:48:35.559 --> 00:48:37.039
night, I'd have to take all
my tools out of my car, and

653
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:44.199
then I had a garden cart.
And so they being from the Bronx,

654
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.400
they thought it was great at they
took the wheels off and left it on

655
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:55.280
cinder blocks, you know, nscue, Big City Rescue. And then now

656
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.079
you have to go, you know, after a night tour, I have

657
00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.920
to go find the wheels. Who
was the captain? They came in after

658
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:07.000
flower? Oh wow, you got
a picture of it, you know,

659
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.039
Well there I am you want and
this one because that does a couple of

660
00:49:10.079 --> 00:49:15.159
them. I try to figure out. I think I see the wheel barrel

661
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.360
on the on the babe and the
lion king the rear the rig, right,

662
00:49:19.559 --> 00:49:22.480
yeah, I'm looking at you.
Yeah, cleaning the windows or something

663
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:25.480
so bad? Right, he's on
the Yeah. Yeah, they should actually

664
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.440
make up a thing with uh you
know who it is? And why why

665
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:34.639
did depict it like that? You
know it's Hank was always clean and he

666
00:49:34.679 --> 00:49:37.320
had to wear the shot in time, right, yeah, Hazel, Yeah,

667
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:42.920
Hank was definitely a clean, a
clean person. You know, you

668
00:49:43.000 --> 00:49:45.559
need one of those guys in the
fire god. Yeah, yeah, no,

669
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:47.920
I'm glad to see that. Still
still kicking that's the other one.

670
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:54.480
Yeah, so that would be me
with the it looks like the other wheel.

671
00:49:54.679 --> 00:49:59.360
You know, you were the rope
guy. I would have thought you

672
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.800
would have been on the nah,
not then, But then I I learned,

673
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:07.199
uh, and that was a great
opportunity to Uh. You guys got

674
00:50:07.519 --> 00:50:09.760
by roco, right, we did, we did, and then um,

675
00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:15.840
I guess you know, it's one
of these things keV when you they put

676
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.760
it on the rig and as they
used to call them, our funny colored

677
00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.880
ropes. They had some other expressions
for him. But you know, we

678
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.519
were the first company with it.
And then when you really get down to

679
00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:29.880
it, um, you know,
like a scaffling incident, was was a

680
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.519
big deal. Now it's it's it's
routine. You know, it's really you

681
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:38.840
know, you guys uh know the
way of the rope and uh and it's

682
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:44.079
um really it's no big deal at
all. And once you know the technique

683
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:47.039
and then you welcome it. But
there was a lot of opportunities to uh

684
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:51.599
to use it, so I went
toward them. So I wanted to know

685
00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:53.320
it really well and then share that
at the rock, you know, and

686
00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:57.760
that's uh, what was it like
trying to convince the chiefs to put put

687
00:50:57.760 --> 00:51:00.880
your guys up on rope and uh
you know, yeah, they would rather

688
00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:05.400
um like a scaffling into They're like, yeah, we'll take the window.

689
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.679
And I used to say, chief, your pension is secure. You're okay,

690
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:14.559
we know what we're doing. You
guys remember the first time you actually

691
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:19.960
used it at a I remember me
personally. We had a m a woman

692
00:51:20.320 --> 00:51:22.880
conn ed was um working on a
manhole and you know how they always put

693
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:30.159
the um metal uh three sided area
around it. Well, she walked right

694
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:36.079
into the manhole and uh you know, she's down about fifteen feet and there

695
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.159
I am, were setting up a
tripod and she's hurt and um. I

696
00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:44.280
could remember my hand shaking so much
that the pulley, the double pulley was

697
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:54.280
rattling hard. And another guy and
I said, just a real guy,

698
00:51:54.599 --> 00:52:00.920
and you can actually hear the plates, you know. So I said,

699
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:04.159
you gotta get you gotta get your
confidence up, you know so, oh

700
00:52:04.320 --> 00:52:07.920
doubt man when you're the guy,
right, yeah, the guy you know

701
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:15.079
when you guys who to laugh about
it here, I'm like, when you

702
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.159
haven't take it gets a lot of
covering bosses and they'd be like, guys,

703
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:23.000
I don't know anything about that,
so you know they would defer too.

704
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:28.119
And then if you were the rope
guy, even the senior guys would

705
00:52:28.119 --> 00:52:31.199
be like, he's got it,
you know. And uh then before you

706
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:35.480
know, it kind of became uh
with our riding positions, you know,

707
00:52:35.559 --> 00:52:37.000
who would do rigging, who would
be entry, you know, so it,

708
00:52:37.920 --> 00:52:42.920
um, it became ingrained into our
assignment. If an event we got

709
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:47.440
a high angle job, you you
were taught in what year? How long

710
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:51.360
did it take to get rescue one? You know, wound up? And

711
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.199
and and and I went there in
ninety one, it probably was you know,

712
00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.119
we we went online pretty quick with
it, and um, you know,

713
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.559
Chief Downey was in sock and then
you know, some other chiefs that

714
00:53:02.559 --> 00:53:06.800
were there, and they quickly realized, you know, this was all born

715
00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.960
out of that the water tunnel uh
incident up in the Bronx. The young

716
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:15.239
guys were in there, and you
know, they had the old roguelist systems

717
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:21.679
and uh they realized we didn't have
capability beyond a couple hundred feet and so

718
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:24.599
were they all realized this is something
that all the rescues needed to get.

719
00:53:24.679 --> 00:53:30.880
So then it was get them back
train the other rescues and then I saw

720
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.159
it as an opportunity and uh I
asked to go work for them. Um

721
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:40.199
and you know, they just wanted
that New York the swagger and the stories

722
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:43.719
to go with it. But you're
really good at it, you know.

723
00:53:43.880 --> 00:53:47.559
So yeah, so UM I liked
it. It was it was a great

724
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:52.960
opportunity to uh, you know where
you could create monsters like you guys,

725
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:59.920
you know where you would train by
Rocco and then did did you guys?

726
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:06.320
Did Rocco train the other rescues or
they they each one had like five six

727
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:10.199
guys from each of the rescues.
They did like a two week class at

728
00:54:10.239 --> 00:54:15.360
the Rock and then we were there
also is like um basically train the trainers

729
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:22.719
where we were learning to um be
instructors. Yeah. And and once you

730
00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:27.000
know, we were pretty very confident
with it. And then you know,

731
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:32.159
Kevin Shay worked for him, Eddie
Morrow uh and myself worked for uh Rocco

732
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:38.159
and we basically uh um, you
know, we just gave it to all

733
00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:42.400
of us sock and then the squads. It was a great opportunity to say,

734
00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.239
listen, well we're all going on
right. That's what it became in

735
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:51.719
house yea, yep, R.
How did you do with the scuba great?

736
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:53.840
I loved it. I loved it. Um, you know, it's

737
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.400
it's funny. So that was the
other thing is they wanted you to be

738
00:54:57.480 --> 00:55:00.239
open water prior to going to rescue, and I kind of refused. I

739
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:05.280
said, listen, I'm I'm not
going to take a class. I'm doing

740
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:12.079
this for you. So um,
eventually I did take it because you needed

741
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:15.679
something to uh knock out your competition. But uh, you know, you

742
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:21.119
dive a few times and you know, we you guys trained as tenders and

743
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:23.639
or if you're not divers, and
uh, it was always funny. You

744
00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:28.559
could whenever the diver found the victim, you could hear them scream, you

745
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.800
know, and you're like, they
got him, you know. And if

746
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:39.000
you were listening to right, yeah, yeah, scary coming upon right in

747
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:44.480
the water. Screw that we went
out in Flight eight hundred to help support

748
00:55:44.519 --> 00:55:50.039
that out there. Um, you
know I was not the uh the strongest

749
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:52.239
uh diver. Um. Actually I
was parting it. It's funny. You

750
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:55.159
brought his picture off, Neil Franklancing
and he was the better diving than I

751
00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.159
was. So we were partting it
up and I would basically be the the

752
00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.480
drop. I think I only dove
once on that and Neil was so I

753
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:07.239
would be tethering him at you know, at that depth. And we didn't

754
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:09.719
get to do a lot, but
we were you know, f D and

755
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.760
Y was out there on the cane
um, you know, just trying to

756
00:56:14.760 --> 00:56:16.679
help out with that. I mean, if you think about rescue one,

757
00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:22.159
all of the rescues that they've done
in the river, it's it's crazy,

758
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:24.639
man, between Harsh and even just
the ones that they did the helicopter just

759
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:29.559
recently, even though that the people
you know were I mean, just to

760
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:32.239
even get in there and do what
those guys did is it's incredible. Man.

761
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:37.960
Yes, it's you know, it's
um, yes, there's there's no

762
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.280
doubt. And and to be able
to turn out and and put that on

763
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:45.480
oh going, Um, I don't
even know what the hell those guys did

764
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:49.719
all twenty four right guys think,
oh yeah, it's just you know,

765
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.239
think about if you were just sitting
home, you know, doing calisthenics and

766
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:53.880
and you had to go run and
do that. But you know, go

767
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:58.159
go home and uh, you know
run just you could have just had a

768
00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:00.480
fire, you know what I mean, and now two minutes later you got

769
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:04.239
to be in this you know,
twenty feet ten feet down under a dock,

770
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:08.159
which you know, shopping carts and
you know, fishing everywhere. Oh

771
00:57:08.199 --> 00:57:10.960
my God, get the hell out
of here. God bless you guys.

772
00:57:12.199 --> 00:57:15.960
Yeah. It was. It was
unique. It definitely, you know.

773
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:20.639
And then um, I remember once
I went as diver one and off the

774
00:57:20.679 --> 00:57:25.079
west side and uh, one of
my fins came off, and the boss

775
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:28.159
like, you know, I radioed
coms. I said, you know,

776
00:57:28.599 --> 00:57:31.400
I lost the fin. He's like, good, keep going. You know.

777
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:35.000
It was Tony Erico. He was
like, you know, and I'm

778
00:57:35.039 --> 00:57:36.920
like, well, I only have
one. So I was like, you

779
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.159
know what, I just I let
the air out of my BC as much

780
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:44.920
and I basically clawed myself along the
bottom and figured, all right, I'll

781
00:57:44.960 --> 00:57:46.480
just use my arms. He didn't
want to hear, We'll get you another

782
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:50.320
one, you know, because they're
like, you know, es us here

783
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:52.599
and they're gonna put a diver in. They're like, I'm not coming up

784
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:57.719
unless I get this guy. You
know. He probably said, yeah,

785
00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.639
um, well he was at the
rock then, but yeah, I didn't

786
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:05.559
get to work with him. Um. A couple of tours here and there.

787
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.480
But you know he was a great
guy man, great guy, great

788
00:58:08.519 --> 00:58:12.960
stories. He is so exciting.
He came on. He was just his

789
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:21.639
son. Yeah. Yeah, that
was the other one. Yeah there when

790
00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:25.119
you were there. Um so in
my time there, we went through six

791
00:58:25.239 --> 00:58:30.280
captains, so it was Kyle and
you know, in seven years. So

792
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.679
it was definitely a great example of
what a good company is because we didn't

793
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:37.960
need the captains. We were you
know, we're all just kind of going

794
00:58:37.960 --> 00:58:42.840
along. But it always coused.
You know, the senior guys would be

795
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.320
like you could doing this or that, and uh, you know, I

796
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:50.079
was rather young, and I enjoyed, uh, rubbing somebody the wrong way

797
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:52.400
as a as a side hobby,
you know, and uh nice you can

798
00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.679
see you can get him and you're
like, oh boy, this is great,

799
00:58:54.760 --> 00:59:00.880
you know. But uh yeah,
so we had um uh um,

800
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:06.400
Charlie Caspell was there. He was
the captain. A rescue him. Yeah

801
00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:12.559
I didn't know that. Yeah yeah. So um when the first Trade Center

802
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:16.800
bombing, um, he was the
captain and Kevin was in the hospital and

803
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:22.079
uh it's funny he comes up to
the firehouse, Um, you know to

804
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:23.920
pick us up. You know,
we're back in quarters and he says,

805
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:29.679
we're gonna go see Kevin, and
uh and it's funny like it I felt

806
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:34.480
like it was, you know,
national vacation, National Lampoon's vacation. He

807
00:59:34.519 --> 00:59:37.360
had like a station wag and I'm
like, people still have station wagon,

808
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:42.920
Reagan, Queen Family, Chuckster,
the family. So he we have paneling

809
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:49.280
on it drives to the corner,
hits the brakes and he's like, go

810
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:52.679
ahead and get two six packs because
like, all right, this is we're

811
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:58.239
definitely gonna do destressing, you know, on the way to downtown Beachman,

812
00:59:58.320 --> 01:00:00.280
you know, and uh, you
know he wanted to hear I didn't know

813
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:04.719
he was a captain. Yeah.
Yeah, so it was and it was

814
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.559
great because we you know, we
that's all we wanted to make sure that

815
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.039
Kevin was gonna be okay. You
know. We uh, they whisked him

816
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.239
away from us, and you know, I'm like, he fell really far.

817
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:17.199
Yeah yeah yeah. When he when
he was on the show, when

818
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:21.639
he told us about that, I
could not believe how far, how far

819
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.039
that was. Man, It's easily
sixty to seventy feet, you know,

820
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:30.840
incredible. Yeah, I mean he
broke everything, you know, I mean

821
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:35.880
and the guidal story like him going
there and getting him as even uh you

822
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.559
know that's even more crazy too.
That's crazy stuff. So yeah, yes,

823
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:45.360
and and you know we it looked
like a giant barbecue pit, you

824
01:00:45.400 --> 01:00:49.880
know, and it was just uh
but yeah, it was really uh quite

825
01:00:49.920 --> 01:00:53.440
a day, you know, Casper. So what did you start studying?

826
01:00:53.639 --> 01:01:01.599
Let's get to that when before he
start How long were you there before you

827
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:08.079
felt like you were comfortable with what
was on that week? I would say

828
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:13.800
probably about eighteen months before you get
that swagger, you know, where you

829
01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.119
could just you know, you get
a covering boss and he might be not

830
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.559
even a sock guy, and they
just kind of look at you like,

831
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:22.800
uh if we get this, and
you're like, don't worry, boss,

832
01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:29.039
we got to gotch and you know
where you're just you're not that I've seen

833
01:01:29.119 --> 01:01:34.639
everything and done been there, but
you know you've got brownstones. Um,

834
01:01:34.679 --> 01:01:40.960
you know subsellers, uh, those
sub sellers, which like, what the

835
01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:45.159
hell you know? Did you like
subsellers? I have. I had a

836
01:01:45.199 --> 01:01:50.239
few experiences, none of them none
of them good. No, I know,

837
01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:52.760
Yeah, guys make fun of me
that I don't like subsellers. Meanwhile,

838
01:01:53.000 --> 01:02:05.119
ye when he hears subs he hears
this. Yeah, so that's when

839
01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:09.639
very lonely down there. It's very
lonely. It's only you. Most of

840
01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:15.400
the time, it's you and you, you three. He's rattling again.

841
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:27.760
Other than crackling, mister wizard.
Tim doesn't want to do this anymore.

842
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:38.840
I was studying while I was in
the bronx Um and you know, it

843
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:43.920
was it was really funny like when
you you're in a company like this and

844
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:47.280
we were still doing the the boxes, the you know, the two and

845
01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:52.119
two on a pull boxes, and
it I just was, I guess a

846
01:02:52.159 --> 01:03:01.079
little bit might say we respond on
at least forty to forty five boxes before

847
01:03:01.079 --> 01:03:05.519
we have to get off the rig. You know. It was just maddening

848
01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:10.760
the number of false alarms, and
um, I just felt like I can't

849
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:15.920
keep doing this. You know,
this is this is not what I see

850
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:19.960
as you know, uh, serving
people, and this is just you know,

851
01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.519
they're playing with us. So I
got my interest in going. And

852
01:03:23.559 --> 01:03:29.719
of course that they find out,
you know, they throw your stuff out

853
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:34.639
the window. You know, it's
uh um. But so then I got

854
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:37.760
to rescue one and I said,
well, I'm not leaving here, so

855
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:43.280
I stopped studying, so I really, uh was. I was quite happy

856
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:46.800
there, um, just because the
number of just the the action and the

857
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:52.519
variety of stuff and um, you
know, working with folks and they're coming

858
01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.880
and going, and it was really
uh. So I ended up at the

859
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.079
bottom of the list, and uh, you know, was fortunate I got

860
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:04.960
promoted. And after I got promoted
in November, it was seventeen years to

861
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:09.760
the day that I got appointed.
And they were like, where the hell

862
01:04:09.800 --> 01:04:13.119
have you been? I said,
in the kitchen, you know, it

863
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:16.559
was too much fun, and so
I was kind of old for my lieutenants

864
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:23.639
class and you know, uh.
And then it was March. I was

865
01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:27.280
back in sock and guys were like, you just relieve me. How the

866
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:30.159
hell do you get back? Tell
us a little how that went about how

867
01:04:30.599 --> 01:04:33.360
didn't go with some folks. You
know, how the hell do you get

868
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:38.400
a spot? You know? So
uh um yeah. So I was at

869
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:45.920
the Rock doing um rope training because
I did not enjoy covering um because every

870
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:48.440
night this size and you up,
where do you work this thing? So

871
01:04:48.599 --> 01:04:53.519
I used to come up with a
line forty third Street and only guys went

872
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.239
to the job nude it with two
companies on forty third Street. They just

873
01:04:56.400 --> 01:04:59.000
wanted an answer so that you'd hear
the guys go, oh, this guy's

874
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:03.239
from midtown. We're on our own
tonight, you know, we're on our

875
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:06.679
own. We'll see what happened with
the two fires. Its whole life.

876
01:05:08.159 --> 01:05:14.920
Yeah. So uh but with that, um, then this squad concept came

877
01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:19.360
up and squad tryouts happened, um
and uh so I was one of the

878
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:24.360
monitors during it, and uh,
you know I was. I was like,

879
01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:28.199
oh boy, this is great.
So it was funny. I didn't

880
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.840
put in for it. And it
was George Crucier that said to me,

881
01:05:31.199 --> 01:05:34.800
your name's not on the list.
I said, Lou, I just got

882
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:39.400
promoted a couple of months ago.
He goes, You're exactly what they're looking

883
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:45.599
for, you know, with that, and I did. And so fortunately,

884
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:50.840
um, Dennis had recognized me so
from some rope training that we had

885
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:55.280
done. And uh so you guys
didn't really know each other like from outside

886
01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:58.440
of that other than through Rocco and
um, you know, because we didn't

887
01:05:58.480 --> 01:06:01.119
really bounce around that much. And
when Dennis was in two and you know,

888
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:05.239
they wasn't like it is today with
sock um where we're kind of our

889
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:11.679
own battalion right right, right,
So you know I was I was really

890
01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.440
thankful that that I got drafted,
you know, and then just being a

891
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.719
new boss and a new unit.
Um, I know it it Payne's Rescue

892
01:06:18.719 --> 01:06:24.039
Forward it, but I truly it
was probably my best time on the job.

893
01:06:24.159 --> 01:06:28.679
Those that time I did with Squad. It was really just really really

894
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:33.159
um rewarding just you know, taking
a twenty four guys you know at the

895
01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:40.239
and making in the unit under Dennis's
leadership, and and it really really was.

896
01:06:40.679 --> 01:06:43.280
And and just the fact that everything
was an uphill battle. You know,

897
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:45.119
all our neighbors hated us, and
that was like it was thirty six

898
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:48.440
right everybody. You know, it
was you know, all a cat calling

899
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:51.920
on the radio and you know,
silliness. But I kind of like that,

900
01:06:53.199 --> 01:06:57.239
uh being that adversary like that and
just say, yeah, show and

901
01:06:57.440 --> 01:07:00.239
we did, you did? And
uh no, I say all the time

902
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.000
on the show. It's you know, your whole career is special, right,

903
01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:06.760
but there's times that are really and
in each place You've been to quite

904
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:12.039
a few places that are really incredible
places, but there's even in those places,

905
01:07:12.039 --> 01:07:15.000
there's time slots that are just really
when you look back at your career,

906
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:17.280
like they were like the sweet spots, you know what I mean.

907
01:07:17.559 --> 01:07:23.199
And for me, you know,
obviously those first two years were great,

908
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:25.599
and then after nine to eleven everything
changed, right. It was the same

909
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:27.800
thing in two ninety, you know, it was great in one h three,

910
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.000
and then Richie Pastor Scofani died and
it changed, right. So it's

911
01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:35.079
it was exactly that I felt that, you know, that squad was twenty

912
01:07:35.079 --> 01:07:39.159
five new guys, right, we
had all new bosses. You know,

913
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:41.920
you were a certain way, and
Garat was a certain way, lou By

914
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.679
was a certain way, and of
course Cat Murphy was a certain way.

915
01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:47.079
And you know, we were half
the guys who were under five years I

916
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:50.599
think probably, yeah, And you
know we were and and you had Hank

917
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:55.880
and Ronnie and Jerry Murph and Bill
Hill and a couple of guys there that

918
01:07:55.920 --> 01:07:59.079
were senior guys that really I think
it was perfect time. You know,

919
01:07:59.119 --> 01:08:02.679
I really were aggressive and we enjoyed
this. Yeah, what do you think

920
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:05.800
about that many young guys that when
you were all concerned that there was a

921
01:08:05.840 --> 01:08:10.639
lot of young guys, no,
because um you had mentioned it in one

922
01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:13.800
of the podcasts I looked at.
I just tried to do a little research,

923
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:18.079
but um, you know, we
kind of set up scenarios on squad

924
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:25.079
tryouts, UM where they weren't.
Um, we weren't looking at technique.

925
01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:30.880
We were looking at hot and you
know, we we saw guys that would

926
01:08:30.920 --> 01:08:32.479
go beyond. Like when we gave
you a two and a half and we

927
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:36.399
said, you know you by yourself, take it down the hallway, keep

928
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:42.079
the nozzle open, keep operating,
dragging the line by yourself. Um,

929
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.840
you have to make to the end. You know. The guys that did

930
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:47.840
that, we were like, yeah, that guy. You know. Meanwhile,

931
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:51.920
we're playing at the rock and you
were like that, that showed a

932
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:56.000
lot of tenacity. And when you
come out, like you said, they're

933
01:08:56.039 --> 01:09:00.159
not taking a knee. They kept
their coat buckled and they were like what

934
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.800
else you got? You know,
we're like this one. So all the

935
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.640
captains were there, so you know, we were the guys setting up the

936
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:11.800
scenarios, doing a reset, next
group of guys and just going about it.

937
01:09:11.880 --> 01:09:15.159
And uh, you know it really
for the folks that showed up,

938
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.479
it was quite a quite a talent
pool to a mask that that group and

939
01:09:19.479 --> 01:09:24.760
then you know, start the training. I mean, I love when a

940
01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:29.279
few times we'd go out after midnight
to go look at commercial buildings, going

941
01:09:29.319 --> 01:09:31.800
a roof down and look, you
know down a mask but and has Matt

942
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:36.680
making Coca Cola. I don't know
they would be looking themselves up to an

943
01:09:36.680 --> 01:09:45.039
ad that we're going out. Oh
my god, you remember that has Matt

944
01:09:45.039 --> 01:09:48.439
dilemma, too tired to eat?
You know, Coops just so he knew

945
01:09:49.159 --> 01:09:58.319
in there. Oh so I was
in Captain Murph's and Garrows groups. Who

946
01:09:58.560 --> 01:10:01.399
whose groups were you? And Kevin? So I had quick is my chauffeur?

947
01:10:01.439 --> 01:10:09.399
Oh my god, yeah quick here
story Um? I had um Sweeney

948
01:10:09.800 --> 01:10:14.960
ielpi um. We got that picture
that guys we're in the trouble groups.

949
01:10:15.119 --> 01:10:19.960
They were always right. One of
the squad pictures. I have this one.

950
01:10:20.319 --> 01:10:23.439
No, no no, and in
front of the rig. No,

951
01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:28.239
not that one. We have this
one. No, that's one. It's

952
01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:31.560
a job picture. And I have
a bunch of them. So I'm going

953
01:10:31.600 --> 01:10:36.479
through no problem we have we have
this is coops. So we're at the

954
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:43.359
rock. That's that's when we Oh
that's uh, that's lou Bye. That

955
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:48.399
was when we first became the squad. Squad with oh this guy this is

956
01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:53.479
the job. Yeah, so I
yelp, he's on the left. Yep,

957
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:58.680
Lieutenant Kelly Quick. That's Paul Baldwin, he transferred over from Rescue one.

958
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:05.680
Uh and that's Brian Fahey. And
that's so I was looking at this

959
01:11:05.720 --> 01:11:10.079
picture, you know, like,
and there's a lot of those pictures that

960
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:12.399
I see, and you know,
you say to yourself when you took this

961
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:16.079
picture, if somebody said to you, you know whatever, five ten years

962
01:11:16.079 --> 01:11:19.439
from now, only two of you
guys are going to be around. Like

963
01:11:19.640 --> 01:11:23.439
it's just these crazy things that I
think about when I look at some of

964
01:11:23.479 --> 01:11:27.640
my pictures that yeah, you know, you're a I mean, but I

965
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:29.720
don't know where this job was.
But that's the old Max. So that

966
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:32.680
was early on, yes, and
you know I have you know, the

967
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:38.840
stories were quick and uh so I
should I should tell that story real fast.

968
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:43.760
So Billy Quick was the showffer.
So I guess I was working.

969
01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.520
I was probably working a mutual or
something. And uh, I always told

970
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:49.439
this, Lieutenant Kelly. All the
time, I was sitting in the kitchen

971
01:11:49.640 --> 01:11:54.640
with my back to the front of
the firehouse that we had big windows in

972
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:59.319
the front on the second floor and
I was reading the paper and I was

973
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:02.279
having a couple of call. I
was by myself, and Lieutenant Kelly comes

974
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:06.159
in. He gets a cup of
coffee and he comes and he leans against

975
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:10.279
the table. He didn't sit down, but he leans against the table,

976
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:16.520
but he's looking out in front of
the firehouse and uh. And he's taking

977
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.840
like a sip of coffee. And
I'm I'm looking. I'm looking at the

978
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:21.960
paper on the table. You know, we're bullshitting a little bit, I

979
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:27.039
would imagine, And he says to
me, he goes, oh, there

980
01:12:27.079 --> 01:12:32.000
goes my chauffeur. And I look
over at him, like, and he's

981
01:12:32.079 --> 01:12:36.119
sipping his coffee looking out the front
of the firehouse. And I turn around

982
01:12:36.760 --> 01:12:41.800
and I look out the front of
the firehouse window like you know, I'm

983
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:46.000
looking like this, and I see
Billy Quick in his car. He had

984
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:50.720
a blue like yeah, it was
like a land cruiser, you know,

985
01:12:50.840 --> 01:12:56.000
like one of a kind, one
of a kind, and he's driving down

986
01:12:57.560 --> 01:13:01.439
the service road. But he's yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's working.

987
01:13:01.479 --> 01:13:06.239
So I'm like, and Lieutenant Kelly
he's like this, He's like like

988
01:13:06.319 --> 01:13:11.039
this, and he just walks out
of the fire out of the kitchen and

989
01:13:11.079 --> 01:13:13.319
he walks in the back, and
I remember saying to myself, like,

990
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:16.520
I mean, think about how that's
after all the stories I have, that

991
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.520
sticks out to me because I jumped
up, I ran downstairs. I'm like,

992
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:24.279
well, FP is quick, you
know, so we get on.

993
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:27.199
He took a radio with them,
so we get him on the radio citywide.

994
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:31.760
Yeah. Right, he went down
like two blocks or three blocks to

995
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:34.199
the auto pots or whatever the heck
he was. He came back right away.

996
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:39.000
I'm like, dude, what the
hell are you doing, Lieutenant Kelly?

997
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.199
He never. I mean, it
still sticks to me, Like you

998
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:45.279
said, you think about how you
are there, right. I try to

999
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.319
figure myself like not getting too as
a boss, like two upset over things

1000
01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:51.800
like I know some bosses that would
have been like what the hell's going on?

1001
01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:55.439
Like he would have ran downstairs,
you know, you went back in

1002
01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:59.039
the office, right. I mean, I think to myself like that sticks

1003
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:01.960
out to me, like all these
little stories. You know, dropped your

1004
01:14:02.000 --> 01:14:09.119
knees and the hell is going on? If you remember, do you remember

1005
01:14:09.199 --> 01:14:13.199
we did build us a quick didn't
at the rock too, We did drill.

1006
01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:16.600
He has reputation. We got jamped
up for that one. A little

1007
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:20.520
bit. You remember we did the
drill down in the water tunnel. We

1008
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:25.359
went down the water tunnels and we
came up and what do we see we

1009
01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:30.159
came up? Do you remember,
No, Billy Quick was sunbathing with shared

1010
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:40.520
office shared off look the waters you
look like with on the top of the

1011
01:14:40.600 --> 01:14:45.920
ring and which like, oh my
god, dude, I love that prize.

1012
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:55.000
Yeah, the Oceanic Society didn't drag
dude. I've seen that guy in

1013
01:14:55.039 --> 01:14:58.880
a couple of jobs though, man
like little Harry jobs that he calmed people

1014
01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:03.520
down, like like uh if you
would jammed up, yeah you want he's

1015
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:10.600
in the top three man. Yeah, guy, Well he would come get

1016
01:15:10.600 --> 01:15:13.840
you, bro, no doubt about
it. He actually came and spoke.

1017
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:15.960
I don't know, probably a couple
of years before he passed down by my

1018
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:19.600
fired pupping down here for one of
our guys graduating and came down and he

1019
01:15:19.680 --> 01:15:23.000
was sweating like a pig in the
hallway. He's like this fucking build,

1020
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:28.640
it's hard, just totally soaking the
whole thing away like a man. I

1021
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:33.199
was like getting completely naked and jump
up on the kitchen table like a fucking

1022
01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:39.439
uh an eight. Yeah, he
was doing this whole like this. He

1023
01:15:39.479 --> 01:15:42.960
would go on the on the cabinets
and the hast all the old hatsmat guys

1024
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.600
would be mortified, you know what
I mean. His ball bag was hanging

1025
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:54.399
out and everything so funny. Yeah, he definitely, um, he was

1026
01:15:55.359 --> 01:15:59.279
entertaining, you know. Yeah.
I say, though, you're getting back

1027
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:01.079
to something that you said, like
there was never a time because even on

1028
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:03.800
Garrow used to do it, three
o'clock in the morning. All right,

1029
01:16:03.840 --> 01:16:08.479
guys, we're gonna drill. Nobody
would ever complain. You're right, we're

1030
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:12.680
going out. Nobody would complain.
Forget about more than day drill and the

1031
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.479
guys who bitch I'd go to a
detail of the fire houses. Guys with

1032
01:16:15.680 --> 01:16:16.840
bitch it they had to drill.
We'd be drill at three o'clock in the

1033
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:21.000
morning. Nobody would ever complain.
I agree, Mill Glenn Harris was the

1034
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:25.760
He might be number one if if
I was in the basement, who's coming

1035
01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:30.720
to get me? Yeah? Now
they're they're very similar. Yeah, I

1036
01:16:30.760 --> 01:16:32.720
mean I always uh, I always
love the one. So you coming to

1037
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.960
work, you would, uh,
you'd put your gloves on, you know,

1038
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.640
the latex gloves like you were a
proctologist, and you would check that

1039
01:16:42.720 --> 01:16:48.239
rig out from basically bumper to bumper, and then you'd snap the gloves off

1040
01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:53.960
and you'd say, now we're ready. You know. It just reminded me

1041
01:16:54.039 --> 01:16:57.800
that Karanji at the at the anniversary
the other night said the same thing.

1042
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:00.159
He says, you prick used to
used to check the from stuck to third

1043
01:17:00.239 --> 01:17:03.800
before I got in everything. Just
you tracking those gloves off, you know,

1044
01:17:03.960 --> 01:17:06.479
And and if somebody said, yeah, I got that, you'd be

1045
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:11.720
like, yeah, that's nice,
and you would just be and then you'd

1046
01:17:11.800 --> 01:17:15.520
be like the exam is over and
the doctor says we're good to go.

1047
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:18.960
It was, it was, and
you know what I loved. It wasn't

1048
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:23.680
just a flash in the pan.
You did that always, and uh it

1049
01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:27.199
was nice to see. And you
know if if other guys pick up like

1050
01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:30.960
that, oh no, they definitely
coops, well coops ended up. Let

1051
01:17:31.079 --> 01:17:34.000
have it that you had, And
uh, I appreciated it very much.

1052
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:40.239
You after Elemon Kevis became he was
the guy I was for a little while.

1053
01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.279
That's that's a good reason. Yeah, good mon. All right,

1054
01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:48.640
So let's get too were at the
squad and you decide now you're gonna fulfill

1055
01:17:48.680 --> 01:17:53.920
your life alone dream and you're gonna
be a lieutenant and rescue for Yeah,

1056
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:57.720
happened you get the call you knew
you wanted. Yeah, I mean I

1057
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:00.720
could remember distinctly. Um, you
know, so Brian Hicky and I,

1058
01:18:01.119 --> 01:18:08.359
um, we ended up going to
college together out in Suffolk and he was

1059
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:15.000
big with the fireman eligibles and so
we got friendly with each other. And

1060
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:18.680
and then he went to Manhattan.
When he got on the job, he

1061
01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:24.399
had some major, major weight and
then he came to thirty eight and we

1062
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:27.840
worked there, and he left thirty
eight, uh and went to four as

1063
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:31.000
a fireman. So you know,
it was great to get reacquainted with him

1064
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:35.800
after all those years. And uh, he calls me up, I'm off

1065
01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:41.560
duty and he had an he just
became the captain and rescue four and he

1066
01:18:41.600 --> 01:18:46.159
says, I could I need three
lieutenants and uh, would you be willing

1067
01:18:46.159 --> 01:18:49.199
to come over? And I said, uh, I just have to make

1068
01:18:49.239 --> 01:18:53.119
one phone call. My wife was
with me, so that would have that

1069
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:57.079
would have been two phones too.
I called Murph and I said I can

1070
01:18:57.119 --> 01:19:00.720
go to four. Um, you
know, what's your thoughts that he go

1071
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.000
go? You know? And uh, you know, I obviously I felt

1072
01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:06.199
bad. But uh. I then
got back to Brian and I said,

1073
01:19:06.279 --> 01:19:11.800
let's leave it until it's on the
order. And then when you Jagaloon saw

1074
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:14.439
it on the order, then you
lost you You'll have a lot. We

1075
01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:16.279
were heartbroken. I kept it under
wraps, you know, until I was

1076
01:19:16.720 --> 01:19:20.159
I was in the clear, you
know, and uh, but it was

1077
01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:24.479
you know, we're right next to
each other, so running in with us

1078
01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:30.399
uh just became It heightened the game
even more of beating each other in Oh

1079
01:19:30.479 --> 01:19:32.800
my god, I was so love
that. Yeah, that was so much

1080
01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:38.199
fun to do that. I mean, I really I took I love it.

1081
01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:40.399
It's like, yeah, it's in
you. That's it. You just

1082
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:42.560
have to beat the other guy,
even if you didn't do shit at the

1083
01:19:42.640 --> 01:19:45.479
job. So as you beat him
did a freaking job. Initially, you

1084
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:49.239
know, we went to a job
in the projects on Long Island City.

1085
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:55.359
Quick was driving and I'm gonna call
it a Brooklyn thing. I've never seen

1086
01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:59.199
it ever down there with locking up
the wheels on the rig, you know,

1087
01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:03.159
coming into the well, he slid
with the engine and he rear ended

1088
01:20:03.399 --> 01:20:15.479
four. I was welcome until you
hit him. I said, before you

1089
01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:17.800
do anything, make sure that we
didn't kill the chauffeur, Will you please

1090
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.079
and back it up ten feet so
we could deny any knowledge of this.

1091
01:20:21.560 --> 01:20:26.039
And we hit him hard. Oh, we whacked him squarely and they weighed

1092
01:20:26.199 --> 01:20:30.279
thousand pounds. All I kept seeing
was the four getting bigger me too.

1093
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:33.359
Wait, you were in the back. Who that was? You were in

1094
01:20:33.399 --> 01:20:38.279
the squad at the time. Yes, I was back. Oh we hit

1095
01:20:38.319 --> 01:20:43.439
him so square, It wasn't I'm
holding it and removed that rig probably about

1096
01:20:43.479 --> 01:20:45.720
three feet, you know, I
said, but I hit him. I

1097
01:20:45.760 --> 01:20:50.079
was impressed. Shot, you idiot? Shot? Oh? He really was.

1098
01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:54.760
He was shot. Yeah, we
you know, Like I said,

1099
01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:58.439
I got in a few with him, but none reported. You know,

1100
01:20:58.680 --> 01:21:00.760
when did you get there? You
got four? And what the two thousand,

1101
01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:04.880
two thousand? Yeah, right right? And uh, Brian Hikey went

1102
01:21:04.920 --> 01:21:09.199
over, I mean not Brian,
Brian Fahey went over one after you.

1103
01:21:09.520 --> 01:21:13.800
Now, so he was already there. Yeah, yep. Do you remember

1104
01:21:13.800 --> 01:21:17.079
where this picture was? No?
I don't you know what that was that

1105
01:21:17.239 --> 01:21:20.119
was? It looks like one of
the spares though, right. That was

1106
01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:27.880
the oil tanker that flipped over on
the b que on the Oh yeah,

1107
01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:30.239
yeah, yeah. You remember when
they stole they stole the truck and they

1108
01:21:30.279 --> 01:21:33.840
flipped it on the uh and he
and the guy was burned up, and

1109
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:41.319
they the fuel was going down the
down under the thing going into the sewers

1110
01:21:41.399 --> 01:21:47.119
on fire, and uh yeah,
Dave Rayner, he moved that track to

1111
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:49.399
trailer. He popped the air brakes. The next thing, I see him

1112
01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:54.359
going down the service road in the
track, the trailer just rolling. So

1113
01:21:54.800 --> 01:21:56.840
Dave, just make sure you know
how to stop the damn thing. We

1114
01:21:56.880 --> 01:22:00.359
already got one flipped over. And
then I just remember the because the chief

1115
01:22:00.439 --> 01:22:05.319
parked under the in the gas station
across the street and they the antle system

1116
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:10.920
dumped all went off. God,
that call was was covered and we're just

1117
01:22:11.000 --> 01:22:16.640
like, wow, that's probably not
a good place. Yeah, we got

1118
01:22:16.680 --> 01:22:19.560
on that pretty quick. You know. That was h That was a lot

1119
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:23.159
of fire. Yeah, it was. I have a couple of pictures.

1120
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.760
We didn't do anything. Yeah,
we got well we got you know,

1121
01:22:27.119 --> 01:22:30.239
my thing was there's somebody in the
cab and uh, you know, we

1122
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:33.640
got ten forty five. Of course, it was kind of made that all

1123
01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:38.159
mission that just you know, that
was about the only thing we could do.

1124
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:41.640
It was really just, uh,
a lot of fire, you know,

1125
01:22:41.640 --> 01:22:44.680
oh my god. It was roasting
right. It was every whole sign,

1126
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:49.760
a picture of the sign, the
BQWE sign was all burnt. Yeah.

1127
01:22:49.880 --> 01:22:54.800
Now did you know Brian before,
I mean from outside and the volleys

1128
01:22:54.840 --> 01:22:57.840
at all. No, no,
just just from going to school with him

1129
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:00.680
and and and then when he came
to thirty eight, like I said,

1130
01:23:00.720 --> 01:23:03.239
it was just like, ohly crap, I remember you and uh so yeah,

1131
01:23:03.319 --> 01:23:06.279
it was just uh it was just
a fun time. And we gave

1132
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:12.840
me that opportunity of going there,
and um, you know, it's it

1133
01:23:12.920 --> 01:23:16.560
was fantastic because you know that was
another unique thing. He had three new

1134
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:23.039
lieutenants, uh, Kevin del Del
John Weisheite and myself and uh and he

1135
01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:25.880
was a new boss, you know, to new captain. I should say,

1136
01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:29.720
uh, you know, he's lieutenant
all but uh you know, but

1137
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:31.880
um, you know that Notre Dame's
emblem of the fighting Irish. He was

1138
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:36.000
the epitome of that, that little
irishman. Uh you know, oh he

1139
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:41.119
definitely uh you know, not a
big man, but he was a giant.

1140
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.199
You know. It was really uh
great guy, great bossy six right,

1141
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:54.359
Well he's in rescue is yeah yeah, yeah. And the Times yep,

1142
01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:01.119
a little bit us guys, Charlie
women. Yep, this is the

1143
01:24:01.239 --> 01:24:04.760
compliments of Jills from the chest.
I was gonna say, Joe took that

1144
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:10.199
picture that, Yeah, this was
I remember that. That's we had that

1145
01:24:10.239 --> 01:24:15.439
Oklahoma rig, Oklahoma windshield. I
was like, holy crapper killed in this

1146
01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:20.680
thing, right Richie Smith was driving
down Queen's Bolvard. Holy shit, man,

1147
01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:26.079
he's right up there with two ninety
bro with that rig. Yeah,

1148
01:24:26.119 --> 01:24:28.399
yeah, he wheels that son of
a gun. Well, the wind shield

1149
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:34.399
was about knee height. I rattling, you know, and then well,

1150
01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:38.840
zealman, I don't know how many
mirrors I think I did. You know,

1151
01:24:39.159 --> 01:24:41.479
we would either find out, we
get replacements, and we go to

1152
01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:45.520
truck junkyards. I think he's you
know, it wasn't so bad when he

1153
01:24:45.520 --> 01:24:47.359
took out his mirror, But when
he took out mine was like, all

1154
01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:50.720
right, now, now you're getting
serious. You know, God's where's that

1155
01:24:50.760 --> 01:24:54.600
other picture with me in the loom. I think I was telling him that's

1156
01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:56.319
when he first went to rescue far. I was telling me, yeah,

1157
01:24:56.319 --> 01:25:03.520
you missed a good job in here
first two. Look at him, he's

1158
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:10.239
got this. It was was that
just one where um Tommy Macray had to

1159
01:25:10.239 --> 01:25:13.479
go out there the head first ladder
slide out the window that was that was

1160
01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:17.039
over by. That was like Paul
lock Alley. That was like old a

1161
01:25:17.119 --> 01:25:19.960
tenement type. Oh no, plock
Alley over there, man, I can't.

1162
01:25:20.039 --> 01:25:24.359
I'm I'm dying with low wood hare
here. Look at this. Yeah,

1163
01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:28.319
I get the chops too, the
big chops going on there. So

1164
01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:30.720
you it was actually Brian Hickey who
was working for Father's Day, right,

1165
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:35.319
it wasn't uh yeah, it was. So it was really unique because it

1166
01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:42.319
was Harry was my chauffeur, and
we were doing hazmat training and I said

1167
01:25:42.319 --> 01:25:45.680
that Harry, let's choose this week
we'll be all Father's Day and he's like,

1168
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:48.760
nah, boss, I got something
to do. So, um,

1169
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:54.079
Brian was working over time somewhere else
and he worked the night before so he

1170
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:56.399
yes, you know, listen,
I'll just stay here in my own place,

1171
01:25:56.520 --> 01:26:00.079
you know. So you know,
it was one of those things of

1172
01:26:00.520 --> 01:26:03.359
you know, his fate would have
it. Um, so I'm home studying

1173
01:26:03.399 --> 01:26:06.920
for Captain Father's Day and uh,
you know you hear that, and it

1174
01:26:08.039 --> 01:26:13.279
just you know, it kind of
changed everything, you know, because studying

1175
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:16.359
wasn't so important anymore, you know
after that. Uh, you know when

1176
01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:21.039
you just you know, it just
impacts you in such a way, right,

1177
01:26:21.159 --> 01:26:25.279
No, it changes everything. The
whole fire house changes when you know,

1178
01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:30.039
you know, losing Harry was uh
as well as Brian. They would

1179
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:32.520
just you know, Harry was just
I would always gotta kick. The chiefs

1180
01:26:32.520 --> 01:26:35.319
would call him like, you know, Division one four to Harry, you

1181
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:45.600
know, like I have a big
wheel around. Yeah that's fun. Yeah

1182
01:26:46.000 --> 01:26:48.800
if I ever worked in four like
they've eating ice cream of salt, and

1183
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:53.319
I wouldn't be eating and cool you
know what, eat what you want and

1184
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:58.680
die when you're supposed to. Right, it's Harry is for sure. Yeah.

1185
01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:00.560
Yeah, I see his kid now
his kids didn't want to wait,

1186
01:27:00.640 --> 01:27:04.520
I think, yes, yeah,
big kid he is. Yeah, Harry

1187
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:09.199
was, you know, great guy. Um. You know when citywide details

1188
01:27:09.239 --> 01:27:15.039
first started, he walked to rescue
one. You know, shit, I

1189
01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:16.880
was like, what the hell?
And when you know there was no cell

1190
01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:19.439
phones or anything, he comes in
like you gotta be kidding me, you

1191
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:21.359
know. So I think in the
morning, I said, Harry, I'll

1192
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:23.960
give you a ride back. You
know, He's like, yeah, that's

1193
01:27:23.960 --> 01:27:26.000
great. It was you know,
it was a long walk. You know,

1194
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:32.079
he's yeah, improve point, you
know, but wow, yeah,

1195
01:27:32.119 --> 01:27:36.520
you know it's even hard or was
that that? Uh nine to eleven was

1196
01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:42.920
so close to that man where you
know, daily recovering from Father's Day and

1197
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:46.039
uh Rescue four they lost everybody,
but how many guys did they losing?

1198
01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:49.640
For? They were nine guys that
day. Um, Well, Hikey was

1199
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:56.359
working in rescue three. So he
had relieved me. Um Sunday night.

1200
01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:00.800
Um. It was his first two
of back and he was working Sunday night

1201
01:28:00.840 --> 01:28:04.840
and Monday day. And he said
to me, you know, I've been

1202
01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:08.359
out a while. And I was
just like, oh, so glad to

1203
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:12.800
have you back. And he said, I'm either gonna play golf Tuesday or

1204
01:28:12.960 --> 01:28:16.159
I'm gonna take overtime in three.
And they had just bought a new house.

1205
01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:20.720
And I was like, you know, just welcome back. And he

1206
01:28:20.960 --> 01:28:26.560
took the overtime in three, and
you know that that was that. So

1207
01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:30.119
Kevin Daldel was the boss in four. And I had called Kevin when it

1208
01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:33.239
happened, you know, being Buffy
and all. I had a scanner in

1209
01:28:33.239 --> 01:28:36.960
the car and you know, and
I'm like, Kevin, something just happened

1210
01:28:36.960 --> 01:28:40.039
down the Tracy. He goes,
yeah, we're watching it. He goes,

1211
01:28:40.279 --> 01:28:43.960
hey, we're getting a ticket.
I'll talk to you later. You

1212
01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:48.319
know. It's like wow. And
so I was working with Hank On on

1213
01:28:48.359 --> 01:28:53.279
a side job and with Ronnie Geese
and all of them, and you know,

1214
01:28:53.319 --> 01:28:56.239
as the day went on, we
were like this thing, something's really

1215
01:28:56.279 --> 01:28:59.560
bad has happened. So we all
went to work and like, like you

1216
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:02.760
said, lives changed for for there
after. And I didn't think I swung

1217
01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:05.720
a hammer again after that. You
know, that was the last day with

1218
01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:10.119
the side job. You know,
really, so many guys tell me that

1219
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:15.439
you were really a big part of
carrying that firehouse after nine eleven. I

1220
01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:21.640
said, you wouldn't. Well,
you wouldn't maybe, Uh you're a very

1221
01:29:21.680 --> 01:29:26.039
modest person. But a lot of
guys said to me that Timmy Kelly is

1222
01:29:26.039 --> 01:29:30.640
what got rescued for through that time. UM, yeah, thank you.

1223
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:35.000
Um it was um. But there
were a lot of a lot of good

1224
01:29:35.000 --> 01:29:40.279
guys, uh that you know,
they were tenacious. Um, you know,

1225
01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:44.800
Liam Flaherty, Um, Billy Murphy, UM, Eddie Morrison, you

1226
01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:46.319
know, and Ed Zelman, you
know, and it goes on and on

1227
01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:53.399
and you know, just um channeling
that was was my biggest thing of you

1228
01:29:53.399 --> 01:29:56.640
know, they were not going to
be denied, um, you know,

1229
01:29:56.800 --> 01:30:01.439
and we set up an incredible network
of uh accurate information. There was so

1230
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:06.880
much misinformation and these poor families were
just getting a lot of bad stuff.

1231
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:11.000
And we're like, listen, we
got a guy there. They basically were

1232
01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:15.039
there at twenty four to seven forever
and we like, we have a guy

1233
01:30:15.079 --> 01:30:19.199
there. I'll call him right now
and we're standing you know, he's there

1234
01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:26.119
right and we would get him a
little better handle on what's actually happening.

1235
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:30.880
So yeah, it was, uh, it was. It was interesting.

1236
01:30:30.920 --> 01:30:34.319
So you know, studying for captain. I never attained the rank, but

1237
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:40.840
I definitely had that unit. And
um, just selecting all new guys.

1238
01:30:41.079 --> 01:30:44.319
I had to recruit new guys and
get them and you know, they are

1239
01:30:44.319 --> 01:30:47.239
on the phone trying to call companies
like I need your best guys and they're

1240
01:30:47.279 --> 01:30:51.279
like why, and I'm like,
I need some spots to fill and and

1241
01:30:51.279 --> 01:30:55.960
then some guys, you know a
lot of guys stepped up and um,

1242
01:30:56.000 --> 01:31:00.000
you know, it's just just um, you know, getting a company back

1243
01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:01.960
in service again and starting to rescue
school. It was almost like you know,

1244
01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:05.279
rebuilding or you know, starting the
squad, it was rebuilding the rescues

1245
01:31:05.359 --> 01:31:11.920
and we we were all unique you
know, um the rescues and some of

1246
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:14.560
the challenges, and you know,
the squad says, you guys know,

1247
01:31:14.640 --> 01:31:18.239
we're decimated, and we were almost
like every man for himself to rebuild you

1248
01:31:18.279 --> 01:31:21.640
a unit. You know, we
couldn't look globally. We just had a

1249
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:26.680
h get ourselves back online and and
take care of our folks too. That

1250
01:31:26.800 --> 01:31:30.920
was that was a big part of
it. You know, I wish I

1251
01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:38.199
was better um identifying that and keeping
them with us. But you know,

1252
01:31:38.479 --> 01:31:44.199
the thoughts of actually collapsing the squads
right, And it was initially yeah,

1253
01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:46.760
yeah, you know, it seemed
like the quick the quick fix, so

1254
01:31:46.800 --> 01:31:51.000
to speak, just um, hey
how about we do this and then consolidate

1255
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:57.640
a few Um. But I think
you know, our early years proved their

1256
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:00.399
worth and and you know, I
think with they realized is wait a minute,

1257
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:04.920
we got this. Uh what we
have left is is they're really good.

1258
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:11.880
So you know, who knew if
more attacks would be coming we would

1259
01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:17.079
need additional So I think, um, our short history proved, um,

1260
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:27.199
we're very valuable to the fire department, and and thankfully they persevered. I

1261
01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:30.079
just remember John Gaine coloring and asked
me saying, if they do that,

1262
01:32:30.159 --> 01:32:32.600
we could think about coming over.
Right. Yeah we were, we were

1263
01:32:32.600 --> 01:32:36.479
all, yeah, we were.
We were definitely recruiting, you know.

1264
01:32:38.039 --> 01:32:41.199
Um but you know, like I
said, it was every every company for

1265
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:45.039
themselves to um, you know,
rebuild and get them where you could.

1266
01:32:45.079 --> 01:32:48.239
And like I said, I got
a lot of great guys just um,

1267
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:53.039
you know, they showed up and
uh and stepped up really. Um.

1268
01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:57.079
They were from great houses and uh, you know, I just remember sitting

1269
01:32:57.079 --> 01:33:00.239
them on the stool and having a
conversation of you know, you you realize,

1270
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:03.560
you know what what we just went
through and it may not be over,

1271
01:33:04.039 --> 01:33:09.000
so um, you know, just
consider that before you you know,

1272
01:33:09.039 --> 01:33:13.279
I never really thought about that actually, that you guys lost both officers there,

1273
01:33:13.319 --> 01:33:16.640
so yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And then you know we had

1274
01:33:16.680 --> 01:33:20.119
to get I had to get a
captain. And I was calling places like

1275
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:24.840
do you want to be the captain? And they were like who are you

1276
01:33:24.920 --> 01:33:28.039
to Colby? Who was the next
cab It was a Gandhiello no, um

1277
01:33:28.119 --> 01:33:32.079
no, um, Paul Haglin came
right and then we had Haglin for a

1278
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:36.159
while, but Um it took a
while to fill at uh you know,

1279
01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:41.640
and and and then lieutenants Larry Archer
came. Um, we got Tommy Sullivan,

1280
01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:45.359
uh remember you know, and uh
you know, so we we were

1281
01:33:45.520 --> 01:33:48.479
you know, it was like the
three lieutenants running running the show, you

1282
01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:53.840
know, which was great. We
had a really nice uh system there really

1283
01:33:54.520 --> 01:33:58.640
um really got it back together very
quickly. And the other thing was unique

1284
01:33:58.760 --> 01:34:02.479
is our our rigs of five nine
to eleven. Um, you know,

1285
01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:05.760
it was kind of kind of interesting. Eight we had to find it.

1286
01:34:06.640 --> 01:34:11.239
Um. So Zelman and I,
uh, John Norman had said your rig

1287
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:15.119
survived, Um find it. So
I did a mixer off and asked the

1288
01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:17.920
Manhattan CEO, and they're like,
the last we knew it was at Pace

1289
01:34:18.039 --> 01:34:25.560
University providing power. And you know, I get back to Eddie and there

1290
01:34:25.560 --> 01:34:28.479
it is sitting next to ten and
ten like like it just came out of

1291
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:30.199
you know. There it's sitting there
like a horse coming back to the barn.

1292
01:34:30.520 --> 01:34:33.439
And I go there it is right
there, that's the one in the

1293
01:34:33.439 --> 01:34:39.000
whole of flame now right it is
it is, and uh, you know

1294
01:34:39.680 --> 01:34:45.520
I went out for that dedication of
that thing. It's just a great job

1295
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:47.600
on that thing. It's it's did
I remember zelman Man? He was We

1296
01:34:47.640 --> 01:34:49.960
had him on the show. He
was one of my favorite guys. He's

1297
01:34:50.000 --> 01:34:53.720
just he was a beast of a
guy, right. I always looked up

1298
01:34:53.720 --> 01:34:56.039
to him because I was a kid. Yeah, I know. He was

1299
01:34:56.079 --> 01:34:58.680
a thirty three truck guy and I
wanted to go to thirty three and the

1300
01:34:58.680 --> 01:35:01.600
whole thing. And when he was
talking about when they wouldn't let us in,

1301
01:35:02.680 --> 01:35:05.319
right, they wouldn't let us on
the site. The cops were blocking

1302
01:35:05.399 --> 01:35:10.479
everything off and and all the firemen
were pushing. He was the front guy.

1303
01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:13.359
We had a picture of him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1304
01:35:13.359 --> 01:35:15.920
it was just and I was a
couple of couple of guys behind him,

1305
01:35:15.920 --> 01:35:18.319
you know, I got but he
was a presence, right and oh

1306
01:35:18.399 --> 01:35:25.880
yeah yeah yeah. He another Hay
another Harry dude. So after Father's Day,

1307
01:35:25.920 --> 01:35:29.760
I you know, I I chose
him as my chauffeur. And uh,

1308
01:35:29.800 --> 01:35:32.640
you know, just his level of
dedication. He uh he would be

1309
01:35:32.720 --> 01:35:36.560
up at night just studying the Queen's
map, you know, I mean just

1310
01:35:36.720 --> 01:35:41.000
you love when you see that,
you know, and um, you know,

1311
01:35:41.039 --> 01:35:44.439
he just didn't want to make a
mistake, you know, And uh

1312
01:35:44.479 --> 01:35:48.880
you know, great funny, funny
man funny. Oh my god, some

1313
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:54.239
of the things he did to visitors
and guests is just you know, he

1314
01:35:54.279 --> 01:36:03.159
could drop his draws faster than that
I've ever seen. West comes. It's

1315
01:36:03.159 --> 01:36:06.800
a beach guy, that's why.
Because he gave me a good zay on

1316
01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:12.760
this. He gave he gave him
Coops the best thing that we've ever had

1317
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.239
on the show in three. He's
not easy to get, you know,

1318
01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.439
no, Coops. Oh you can't
get coups, right, Coops shot me.

1319
01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:23.720
Yeah, so ze Man's son can
Doze Man's son works. It lives

1320
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:25.720
in Long Beach, so it's smarted
by Coops. Right, and he works

1321
01:36:25.720 --> 01:36:28.439
out in the same gym. So
Coops says something like, hey, dude,

1322
01:36:28.439 --> 01:36:30.279
I see your son all the time. Like, if you ever come

1323
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:31.560
up, you know, let's get
together. We'll get a drink. You

1324
01:36:31.560 --> 01:36:33.920
know what I mean. If you're
always you know he's up there. True.

1325
01:36:35.800 --> 01:36:42.560
Oh good for you. Now you
think frozen. He's froze story my

1326
01:36:42.560 --> 01:36:48.479
froze nice. So he goes,
he goes. Yeah, Coops, when

1327
01:36:48.520 --> 01:36:51.279
I come up to New York is
a short list of people I want to

1328
01:36:51.319 --> 01:36:58.800
see and you ain't on it.
I was like, Wow, I think

1329
01:36:58.840 --> 01:37:03.640
I saw his bottom up through that. You know, I do say about

1330
01:37:03.680 --> 01:37:06.479
him, he's like the best guy. Hey, what's going on? He's

1331
01:37:06.520 --> 01:37:11.079
babysitting. It's great into something,
you know, right right? Full shit,

1332
01:37:11.319 --> 01:37:15.960
man, that was awesome. You
know, we had it. We

1333
01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:19.359
had a chief come in and he
wanted a roll call and I wasn't very

1334
01:37:19.560 --> 01:37:25.279
skilled at doing formal role calls.
And the chief was there too. Wasn't

1335
01:37:25.319 --> 01:37:29.359
exactly one of our friends, and
he wasn't brother was It was well,

1336
01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:33.960
you know what's funny. Initially we
weren't best friends, but he we learned

1337
01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:36.399
to like each He came to my
retiring party. You know, I mean,

1338
01:37:36.680 --> 01:37:42.199
there's a lot to me. He's
um but never no, no,

1339
01:37:42.359 --> 01:37:45.000
it wasn't. But uh, anyway, the chief says, you don't do

1340
01:37:45.119 --> 01:37:47.880
many role calls, do you?
I said not actually? And then um,

1341
01:37:48.079 --> 01:37:50.800
he said, by the way,
tell your show for the shave,

1342
01:37:51.439 --> 01:37:57.199
and I Zeeland was doing something and
I gave a silly face like shock and

1343
01:37:57.279 --> 01:38:00.560
I said, Chief, that man's
a cheap He was clean shaven two hours

1344
01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:04.119
after and if you stand next to
him you can hear his hair growing.

1345
01:38:05.880 --> 01:38:13.119
He's just like you know, subtle. He's very subtle, like Kelly.

1346
01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:15.720
Then he asked me, aren't you
gonna invite me back for coffee? I

1347
01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:23.239
said not after that role cool,
No, he invited him your hurry get

1348
01:38:23.319 --> 01:38:29.079
out. He was unhappy with something
we had done. But uh, it's

1349
01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:32.600
always in our you know, us
trying to do what we'd like to do

1350
01:38:32.760 --> 01:38:39.319
best, you know, Yeah,
God make it go away a few yes,

1351
01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:42.439
yeah, all right, let me
go back up to one. I'm

1352
01:38:42.439 --> 01:38:45.039
gonna say too. You know who
we lost is one of his first tours

1353
01:38:45.079 --> 01:38:49.880
back mister Peabody. Right, Yes, I don't think they ever found him

1354
01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:55.880
in doll right, um, Kevin, they found his tool. He had

1355
01:38:55.920 --> 01:39:00.279
a very unique calligan. Um.
But no we did not, and Pete

1356
01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:06.039
we did not. Um. So
it was I can almost imagine Kevin saying

1357
01:39:06.920 --> 01:39:13.520
stay with me, right, he
was only there. So Pete did a

1358
01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:19.439
lot of work for us at Father's
Day after, as well as transmitted the

1359
01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:27.359
who's authority has matt One. I
was like, man, that is one

1360
01:39:27.359 --> 01:39:30.039
of the most priceless transmissions. I
ever said, how the hell did you

1361
01:39:30.199 --> 01:39:33.399
think of that so quickly? I
was outstanding on your part, you know

1362
01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:39.439
so. But yeah, I said
to Brian, bring this guy over.

1363
01:39:39.600 --> 01:39:43.239
He's uh, if anything, he's
entertaining, but he's he's a great injured

1364
01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:49.840
guy and uh and Quick hates him
and him two guys like ended up with

1365
01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:57.720
both of them, So it would
have been fine with me. Got yeah,

1366
01:39:57.720 --> 01:40:00.039
we got a few more. We
got a little bit of something a

1367
01:40:00.039 --> 01:40:04.039
little different here. Where is that
is this? So this is out east?

1368
01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:11.279
Um after my f DN y career, I uh worked for uh federal

1369
01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:15.439
agency and uh just kind of ended
up his chief of department out there and

1370
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:19.680
uh so it was you know one
one uh one firehouse, um, you

1371
01:40:19.760 --> 01:40:24.600
know, two engines and uh you
know or an engine, a truck and

1372
01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:28.000
a rescue and uh so it was
kind of kind of cool, but we

1373
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:31.600
would get called off site. Um
so it was at an incident on the

1374
01:40:31.760 --> 01:40:41.640
l ie. Um but I did
I did the chief of apartment like that

1375
01:40:42.640 --> 01:40:47.079
you yeah, um yeah, it
just worked out. Um, you know,

1376
01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:53.279
it's uh just I think it was
probably attributed. You know, you

1377
01:40:53.399 --> 01:40:56.640
just you're into it, you want
to do more, and uh I think

1378
01:40:56.680 --> 01:41:00.840
people notice that that you just,
um, you just work hard and you

1379
01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:02.800
just can't do enough, you know, in terms of making yourselves better,

1380
01:41:02.920 --> 01:41:06.840
making a place better and uh,
you know, really really try to improve

1381
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:11.960
the group. So all right,
he's one of those stack guys. Can't

1382
01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:15.520
do enough, bro, you know, then you put us with twenty five

1383
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:24.119
others and it's just a fun day. Yep, we got this one the

1384
01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:31.399
Peabody too on the left. Yep, yep, Brandon Fahey Corrado cool.

1385
01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:40.039
He's like five six in that picture
the Volo geese about my height. Ye

1386
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:45.000
like it look like a baby next
to those men. It's like four foleven.

1387
01:41:45.239 --> 01:41:53.439
Yeah, yeah, feeling that's why
I jumped up on the all right,

1388
01:41:53.560 --> 01:41:56.520
So I got one from mister Joe
again. I got this guy.

1389
01:41:57.439 --> 01:42:00.079
Oh it's John Dylan man in the
back, you know, dead sun of

1390
01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:09.479
man, the white shirt nice yeah, yeah, the Chiefs. Yeah,

1391
01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:12.199
he looks like he's going to a
lou Wow. That's Sully right in the

1392
01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:15.199
middle. What's like, I said, I look like I'm wearing the tablecloth

1393
01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:23.199
manties. Maybe I don't know w
yeah for sure. Right, And then

1394
01:42:23.279 --> 01:42:26.640
I get this guy. Yep,
this is a seat, I guess,

1395
01:42:26.880 --> 01:42:31.800
said Andy. Who else is in
there? You got Hassick has Wells.

1396
01:42:32.079 --> 01:42:36.000
I came on with Willie. Yeah, you're great guy. Oh my god,

1397
01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:40.560
they're all They're all funny dude,
sank Sean Parker. I love that

1398
01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:44.279
guy too, man, he's all
the jobs. Yes, yes, yes,

1399
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:45.840
all right, I'm doing it.
No, he's up in three now,

1400
01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:50.760
always in three. Yeah, awesome. And then we got with the

1401
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:56.000
dungaree jacket in the front, Dead
John go belly. I see him in

1402
01:42:56.039 --> 01:42:58.439
the back all the time. He
loves in movie. Yeah, look at

1403
01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.159
Griffin, good guy, good guy. It's Ray to senior guy that.

1404
01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:06.239
Um he's out right, you know
he's he's on medically right now. But

1405
01:43:06.319 --> 01:43:12.520
yeah he's still I don't yeh,
he's probably right up there, you know.

1406
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:16.640
Um, but Richie's Richie Schmid.
Yeah yeah yeah, so raised there.

1407
01:43:16.880 --> 01:43:20.279
Well, RAI on more time in
the company though, yes he does.

1408
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:24.920
Yeah yeah, I came out ray
right, was my problem? Class

1409
01:43:25.840 --> 01:43:29.960
nice And we we briefly peaked at
this one before. If you want to

1410
01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:32.720
on a little bit, big lieutenant
on guard, bless him. Yeah,

1411
01:43:34.039 --> 01:43:38.680
you wouldn't want to grapple with that
guy, though he's a good wrestler.

1412
01:43:39.399 --> 01:43:44.279
Were you a wrestler, lou No
talking about Garrow? No, I know

1413
01:43:44.399 --> 01:43:48.279
I understand that I was asking the
LOUI if he we're wrestling. Hey,

1414
01:43:49.560 --> 01:43:56.520
we're talking to my guy all wrong, stabbing a face with a soldering iron.

1415
01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:02.760
We this one Coop sent us over
to himself. That was the second

1416
01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:06.279
alarm. We went to Yep,
you got Magellan Na Murphy. There he

1417
01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:15.359
is nice, Chris Kermangie Tito and
John Ielpie again. Yeah, used to

1418
01:44:15.439 --> 01:44:20.439
catch work bro Oh my god.
Yeah, he was definitely out to prove

1419
01:44:20.560 --> 01:44:26.920
something that man, you know right
ye away, Oh my god, he

1420
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:29.520
was gonna be a good really really
really good. I mean he was then

1421
01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:32.680
too, but he was young.
Yeah, he was aggressive. He could

1422
01:44:32.680 --> 01:44:35.479
get under your skin. They wanted
to pummel him in probi school. That's

1423
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:43.880
how I want to pummel him everywhere. Wantubble him, right, and yeah,

1424
01:44:44.039 --> 01:44:49.680
you get somebody like palled upset,
you know, unscrewed his bottom of

1425
01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:54.039
his locker and slid a pizza in
and screwed it again and it got so

1426
01:44:54.359 --> 01:44:57.640
rotten. And Ielpi's locker. I
could see him come up every cool like

1427
01:44:58.119 --> 01:45:06.159
you smell him. That's awesome.
It was definitely like six months nice all

1428
01:45:06.239 --> 01:45:10.520
right, And I got two more. We got this one. Yep,

1429
01:45:11.119 --> 01:45:15.119
Wealthy, that's Joe Fable Wealthy quickie
Joe Hunt them one of my favorite guys.

1430
01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:18.239
Yeah, so we went to take
that picture, you know with the

1431
01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:26.159
World's uh World's fair globe out there, you know globe they filmed the Men

1432
01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:30.199
in Black at that time, and
that's Woody uh McHale right from Yep,

1433
01:45:31.640 --> 01:45:38.720
that's just passed away not too long
ago. Yep, all right. In

1434
01:45:38.840 --> 01:45:45.199
the last one I have was this
guy. Wow, it's kind of that

1435
01:45:45.359 --> 01:45:47.600
was the crew right there. Man. Yea, yeah, so this is

1436
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:54.600
you guys just had that squad anniversary. Was pretty impressive. They had this

1437
01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:58.479
picture and then they had the picture
now twenty five years later of all the

1438
01:45:58.520 --> 01:46:00.680
guys. It was pretty cool how
they did how they did it. They

1439
01:46:00.840 --> 01:46:03.239
took away from a fronto. I'm
standing next to afronto again. How do

1440
01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:09.560
you yeah, how do you pick
yourself out? Okay, stand up?

1441
01:46:09.560 --> 01:46:18.199
You counted another. You're gonna give
me a complex soon, I don't know,

1442
01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:23.520
I'm sure. Come on, guy, man, come on, man,

1443
01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:29.760
Oh well that's it. That's what
we have. A photo we got.

1444
01:46:29.960 --> 01:46:31.079
I think you know what time it
is, Damn bro, I think

1445
01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:35.079
I know what time it is too. I think I know what time it

1446
01:46:35.159 --> 01:46:40.199
is. You ready for the music? I'm you ready for I don't have

1447
01:46:40.319 --> 01:46:45.239
this one, mister, So I
need you, I need you all right

1448
01:46:45.279 --> 01:46:54.680
ready, here we go, It's
time for me, oh of the day.

1449
01:46:56.880 --> 01:47:00.880
Take it away, sir. You
know you guys have quite a few

1450
01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:03.800
mild stones, and seeing some of
your previous shows, I mean, how

1451
01:47:03.880 --> 01:47:08.239
much more can we go over?
But so I was just thinking of something

1452
01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:13.319
that you need to do well because
if you don't, I'm speaking from personal

1453
01:47:13.359 --> 01:47:17.279
experience, and I just say going
in and out of a window, make

1454
01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:21.319
sure you can execute that move very
well from a portable from a roof,

1455
01:47:23.359 --> 01:47:26.960
and then once you get in,
make sure there's a flaw, because I've

1456
01:47:27.000 --> 01:47:35.039
done that twice where there wasn't.
So I just thankfully survived on both falls.

1457
01:47:35.199 --> 01:47:39.840
But the only thing was hurt was
my pride. And the other one

1458
01:47:39.960 --> 01:47:44.760
is coming out. And if you
want to execute that maneuver where you look

1459
01:47:44.840 --> 01:47:50.840
like you know what you're doing with
a mask on without making anybody too concern

1460
01:47:50.960 --> 01:47:55.439
for your own safety, do so, but do it quickly. So I

1461
01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:59.560
was just trying to think of for
myself just getting that maneuver in and then

1462
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:03.640
back out again, because it doesn't
go well on the way out usually you're

1463
01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:08.199
in a hurry. Uh, if
you're on the floor above. I was

1464
01:48:08.279 --> 01:48:11.319
just gonna say it. He used
to practice that in the squad a loss.

1465
01:48:11.680 --> 01:48:14.720
Yeah, but Joe Harky used to
do the jump head first, grabbed

1466
01:48:14.760 --> 01:48:16.439
the top run and swing him.
Oh my god, yes, right going

1467
01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:19.479
out to the side. You used
to wrap your hand under the run and

1468
01:48:19.520 --> 01:48:26.920
then we would tie each other off
so that, like the lou just said,

1469
01:48:26.960 --> 01:48:30.520
you're gonna be coming out of there
in a hurry. So and it's

1470
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:32.079
the guy behind you that's gonna make
sure that you're Yeah, yeah, you're

1471
01:48:32.159 --> 01:48:38.000
getting asked out. You don't want
to be the first guy. But at

1472
01:48:38.079 --> 01:48:41.640
times, yeah, he gets to
take his time. You're the one that's

1473
01:48:41.640 --> 01:48:44.880
got to get out of the way. But uh, I just figured just

1474
01:48:44.960 --> 01:48:48.279
the basic thing and just doing in
a conventional book ladder. You know,

1475
01:48:48.319 --> 01:48:51.359
it was always portable ladders. Um. I used to steal the ladder off

1476
01:48:51.399 --> 01:48:56.079
the engine because I couldn't do the
twenty four foot ladder off the truck.

1477
01:48:56.479 --> 01:49:00.279
You know, took two guys and
I wasn't capable. So I the one

1478
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:02.199
off the engine all the time and
I could always run around the back with

1479
01:49:02.279 --> 01:49:08.119
the engines twenty four footer and it
was just a lot faster for me.

1480
01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:11.399
I can handle that. I'll tell
you one thing too, is when you're

1481
01:49:11.399 --> 01:49:14.159
going in the window, most of
the time you have an audience. Yes,

1482
01:49:14.319 --> 01:49:17.039
so you're better off making sure that
you uh, you know, did

1483
01:49:17.119 --> 01:49:21.399
you do your calisthenics and practice that
maneuver like you said, because just hooking

1484
01:49:21.439 --> 01:49:27.479
your leg on a curtain coming out, it's like Oly Christ or if you

1485
01:49:27.560 --> 01:49:30.199
gotta take out the window guards or
any of that. You got one leg

1486
01:49:30.279 --> 01:49:34.520
in, you feel your hamstring ready
to pop. I'm okay, I'm good.

1487
01:49:35.479 --> 01:49:41.279
I meant that. No, it's
good. That's definitely a great tip.

1488
01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:51.359
Mans is on fire? Who is
this guy? Pulled the pictures all

1489
01:49:51.399 --> 01:49:56.920
all over the place? When I'm
in the zone? You know the same

1490
01:49:56.960 --> 01:49:59.880
thing when you get in the zone. You're in the zone. When you're

1491
01:49:59.880 --> 01:50:02.239
in the zone, in the zone. But you know, yeah, we

1492
01:50:02.319 --> 01:50:06.000
finally got him roof well worth it. My face hurts so many stories.

1493
01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:10.439
Yeah, he's the man, come
on, he was the man. He's

1494
01:50:10.479 --> 01:50:12.920
the man. Now he knows he's
the man. The man, You're always

1495
01:50:12.960 --> 01:50:15.439
the man, That's what I said. I think we got to take him

1496
01:50:15.479 --> 01:50:17.800
up and go out to the garage
to the man ship bar is open.

1497
01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:20.880
Yeah, and you know what,
you're on my list coup, So the

1498
01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:29.760
hell with zealman. You can your
zeal exactly what we will tell stories about

1499
01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:32.680
good Old what's his name? Exactly. I don't know if Roof can come

1500
01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:35.640
down from God's Country, though,
you know I'll come down. The trip

1501
01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:41.000
is worth it. It's worth worth
it, all right. You can't come

1502
01:50:41.079 --> 01:50:45.039
to the trip on the fifth,
I'll be down in the down South like

1503
01:50:46.239 --> 01:50:50.319
a shame. Yeah you know,
yeah, I know we have it every

1504
01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:53.640
year, So you come on next
year. I would. It would be

1505
01:50:53.720 --> 01:50:58.239
a pleasure. Don't right Your train
going by, Yeah, well that's that's

1506
01:50:58.279 --> 01:51:03.920
my train. I gotta catch.
Listen, it's not all roses. I

1507
01:51:04.039 --> 01:51:08.119
live on the other side of the
tracks. Oh I got you. I

1508
01:51:08.119 --> 01:51:12.199
don't have my phone here. Oh
yeah, you got the house. Got

1509
01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:15.800
the Rocco money, you know what
I mean? I think he gets residuals

1510
01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:18.439
on the Rocco money. Somehow comes
in every rope gets something look in his

1511
01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:24.359
face like this? Why not?
Why not? Good for him? He

1512
01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:27.159
still looks good. All right?
So you got anything, Roof? You

1513
01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:29.399
have any shout outs for the end? I don't did you have did you

1514
01:51:29.479 --> 01:51:31.880
want to go over those? Um
you know I've I've been out a long

1515
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:36.079
time. Um, you guys been
after me for a long time as well,

1516
01:51:36.159 --> 01:51:41.600
and uh you know, it was
just, uh really quite an honor

1517
01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:45.840
that you you had me on and
you always have real heavy hitters and I'm

1518
01:51:46.079 --> 01:51:54.760
just not shot but I'm sorry.
I know well and uh you know we

1519
01:51:54.920 --> 01:51:58.239
ran in the same circles, so
uh just we had you on the radar

1520
01:51:58.399 --> 01:52:02.279
from Jump Street literally from the first
when the first I thought we had about

1521
01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:06.359
doing this podcast. You were you
were in the top five, like right

1522
01:52:06.439 --> 01:52:10.119
out of the box that we wanted
to get but obviously you were still working

1523
01:52:10.159 --> 01:52:14.159
and you kept giving us excuse.
Yeah. Yeah, well, Louis,

1524
01:52:14.199 --> 01:52:16.560
I met you in one seventeen when
you were there and uh you know I

1525
01:52:16.640 --> 01:52:20.479
covered up in the up in that
battalion for a while, so you know,

1526
01:52:20.680 --> 01:52:25.640
wow, you guys go way back. Yeah. Yeah, it was

1527
01:52:26.840 --> 01:52:30.760
just but good but uh you know, like I said, uh, some

1528
01:52:30.880 --> 01:52:34.039
of the folks we mentioned and um, you know you're looking at the old

1529
01:52:34.119 --> 01:52:40.199
school tip of the day one of
the things that um not related to firefighting.

1530
01:52:40.279 --> 01:52:43.600
But I just you know, you
gotta everybody coming on. Like we

1531
01:52:43.680 --> 01:52:47.399
talked about some you know, mental
anguish we suffer and dealing with that.

1532
01:52:47.760 --> 01:52:53.920
Um, take care of yourselves mentally
physically. Um, you know it's uh

1533
01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:58.520
we deal with it differently today.
But um, you know, being being

1534
01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:01.760
fit is you know, win votes
with Kubla on this, but um,

1535
01:53:02.119 --> 01:53:06.720
you know it's really the only tool
that you're personally responsible for maintain a level

1536
01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:12.000
of fitness. And uh, you
know you I found it was one of

1537
01:53:12.039 --> 01:53:15.000
the things that kind of got me
to retire. I just said, I

1538
01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:16.680
didn't want to, um, you
know, last guy up the stairs,

1539
01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:19.239
you know, I didn't want to
be that guy of like where the hell

1540
01:53:19.279 --> 01:53:23.159
are you? You know? So, um, you know, you just

1541
01:53:23.239 --> 01:53:25.479
got to be a top of your
game and when you're not so much,

1542
01:53:26.399 --> 01:53:30.239
I said, I don't want to
do something seconds So I left more and

1543
01:53:30.680 --> 01:53:32.119
I want to leave on the top
of my game. So and you want

1544
01:53:32.159 --> 01:53:39.960
to retire and spend some of that
those years my mate later something like that.

1545
01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:43.680
Now that that is terrible, right, right, don't stay too long?

1546
01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:48.840
Yeah, guys that you know,
yep, stay fit And I'm doing

1547
01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:54.600
well and healthy and you know it's
I had a few incidents before I retired

1548
01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:57.840
and you come to that realization it's
uh, you don't dwell on it,

1549
01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:00.439
but it's an incredibly dangerous job.
You know. I had had a few

1550
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:05.199
run ins, uh like tour after
tour, and I was like, you

1551
01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:09.239
know, you you rethink, uh, I want to be around a little

1552
01:54:09.239 --> 01:54:15.640
bit more so you know now I'm
my days are filled being grandpa days.

1553
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:19.399
And I ask you we had grand
babies. Good, so I can't wait,

1554
01:54:20.159 --> 01:54:24.279
like wait, but I really can't
again. Thank you all from it

1555
01:54:24.359 --> 01:54:30.079
sounds like the trains coming back for
you. It is he I start get

1556
01:54:30.199 --> 01:54:33.039
stay fit and living on a hundred
years and I'll never have as much money

1557
01:54:33.079 --> 01:54:43.279
as with Frano. I'm just saying, like, there's my boy smiling way.

1558
01:54:43.800 --> 01:54:48.399
But alright, God play the outro
for us. Let's prop's got something?

1559
01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:51.039
No I gotta you? Uh,
did you guys want to I'm gonna

1560
01:54:51.079 --> 01:54:54.000
play the banner or I'm sorry,
the outro, but do you want to

1561
01:54:54.039 --> 01:54:56.880
cover with the yellow dds? I
don't. I'm kid took my phone.

1562
01:54:56.920 --> 01:54:59.840
I don't have the information. Do
you have them? I have a pick

1563
01:55:00.199 --> 01:55:01.560
of them, but I don't have
the act about this. Come on,

1564
01:55:01.640 --> 01:55:04.640
we prepped I did my son took
the phone and put it on the charger

1565
01:55:04.720 --> 01:55:08.279
for me, and I had it
on my phone. So ayead we had

1566
01:55:08.279 --> 01:55:12.800
a guy from Memphis. Correct.
We had the gentleman last night from Memphis,

1567
01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:15.760
Lieutenant Jeffrey Norman. And then a
couple of nights ago we had the

1568
01:55:15.800 --> 01:55:23.239
gentleman that got shot uh in Alabama, Birmingham. I'm sorry, Jordans Milton.

1569
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:28.479
So hopefully rested both line of duties. I will give them the five

1570
01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:42.159
bells because they are a line of
duties. So stand by all right,

1571
01:55:42.199 --> 01:55:47.319
both is rest in peace again,
Lieutenni Kelly in the man shead sooner than

1572
01:55:47.359 --> 01:55:54.520
you can say, coops and uh
rough Gonzo, great show, Thank you,

1573
01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:57.720
I'll see you. We'll see you
guys next Thursday. We had a

1574
01:55:57.760 --> 01:56:00.520
guest but he kind of tapped out
on us. So we'll be we gotta

1575
01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:02.479
we gotta go to the We got
a mutual, getting another mutual. Yeah,

1576
01:56:02.680 --> 01:56:05.119
yeah, you sure to get a
top out, you know, are

1577
01:56:05.119 --> 01:56:06.920
you doing the out out? What
do you do on your side? Yeah?

1578
01:56:06.920 --> 01:56:10.199
I was waiting for you, guys. I don't want to overstelle you.

1579
01:56:10.439 --> 01:56:13.439
Here we go. We'd like to
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1580
01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:15.880
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1581
01:56:17.600 --> 01:56:20.199
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1582
01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:23.359
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1583
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1590
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:50.600
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1591
01:56:50.680 --> 01:56:58.279
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1592
01:56:58.319 --> 01:57:01.560
Thursday. Yes, have a great
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1593
01:57:02.159 --> 01:57:06.840
Okay, until let me see you
all right, everybody, We'll see it

1594
01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:09.680
the big one, al right,
guys. Be safe,