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We grow with the flow. It's
the Gardening Simplified show. Hey, that

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right, I'm off to a good
start. You were off to a blazing

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start right. Coming to you from
the beautiful studio a at Proven Winners Color

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Choice Shrubs. It's Stacy Hervella me, Rick weisst and our engineer and producer

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Adriana Robinson. All right, Stacy, it's our second season, episode fifty

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three. We have a year in
the books. Congratulations. Congratulations to you

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too, and obviously a huge thanks
to all of our listeners and viewers wherever

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you listen or on YouTube, because
you know, show can't stick are on

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for a year without people who actually
like it. You nailed it exactly,

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thanks to you, and also thanks
to our sponsor, Proven Winners Color Choice

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Shrubs. This has been great and
folks who are tuning in and watching it

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our show also understand that they are
starting a second season, the fall season.

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We'll talk about that today. I
often like to say that it's an

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opportunity to start over again and arguably
one of the best times of the year

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to garden, and so we start
the second season. It's kind of kind

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of cool. Yeah, I'm I
am really I can't believe how fast it's

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gone. You know that we've gone
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and that, yeah, now we're
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But you know, I think we
can say with confidence that all of

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our listeners can be assured the same
great or even better contents, probably the

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same amount of possibly more puns.
Oh yeah, and increased limericks. Well,

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i'll tell you what in that first
year, here's some of what we

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learned. We learned decumbent growth is
a thing. There are people out there

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now who are googling that if you
haven't watched our show. Plants that beat

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the heat. Garden hoses are a
pain. Vines and clematis blues are highly

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desired. Color bees and mosquitoes are
a big deal. Blamo is a word,

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right, You better believe it help
for beginning gardeners. Peppers are popular

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container gardening, deer resistance, fragrance, we're weary of daylight saving time and

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wind chimes. Would youila? We
all learned how to pronounce that word,

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and it feels therapeutic and instinctive to
slap a bag of pottings. Limericks are

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a means of communication. We've grown
at puns and dad jokes. We've learned

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about the meteorological calendar, and I
learned that meteorological is hard to say.

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Yeah, it's a lot of syllable
strap your voice around, for sure.

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But I'm operating by that calendar because
today, in my mind is the first

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day of the fall gardening season.
Of course, we learned about hydrangeas we

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visited the Temple of Bloom. We
know people like to touch plants. Annuals

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today are advanced. There's gray to
interest in specimen plants. I like cucumber

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and cilantro martinis. We learn that
you and I have both been to Europe

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and back. I primarily wear blue
and black, and Stacy wears beautiful jewelry

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from her it's from your grandma,
right, it's yes, and also some

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newer stuff from my mom which I
forgot about. I gotta get that out

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and get it on air. I
love it. I love it. Variegation

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is polarizing, Garlic is fun to
grow. And we can all be a

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little less pedantic. That's a word
I learned from you. We're gonna let

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nature take its course. That's just
a snippet of what we learned in Year

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one. Can you imagine what's coming
in year two. Not yet, but

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I'm excited about it. Well.
In fall, of course, the weather

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pattern is opposite of what we have
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start with cold soil and then the
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So we have the opposite in fall, nice warm, so cooler temperatures.

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That makes it such a great time
of the year to put plants in

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the ground. I think it's it's
ideal in my mind and one of the

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things I love about this time of
the year. And I'm not ashamed to

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admit it. You go to a
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get bargains, yes, oh yeah, I mean they don't want to put

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that stuff away for the winter or
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I you know, I'm surprised that
it is not more popular as people go

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back to the garden center to get
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so forth, that they aren't making
it more of a point to go back

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there and look at the shrub section, look at the perennial section, scoop

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up those bargains and know that you
can absolutely, positively safely plant in fall

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up until about six weeks before your
ground freezes. And that's a long time.

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You know. Obviously that's a moving
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sure when that's going to happen.
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most of the Midwest, I always
tell people that you can safely plant new

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perennial trees and shrubs until at least
late October. I agree completely, And

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you can move some plants that need
to be moved if you like to add

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plants to your landscape but want to
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Fall just maybe the season for you. Word of the day today is boski.

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Have you ever heard that word bosky? B o s k y No,

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I haven't. When you're feeling boski, it means you have abundant trees

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and shrubs. Okay, So the
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the Latin word for forest, so
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still call like a forest or a
woods a bosque or a bosque. So

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I knew it might have something to
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of, you know, I guess
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americanized. I'm impressed. That's excellent. Yeah, yes, b O s

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k y. It's an adjective as
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trees or shrubs. Now, also
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monarch butterflies, that fourth super generation. They're trying to energize themselves before they

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traveled to Mexico, California, or
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Carolina, the sea islands along South
Carolina. Now, my Verbena bonariensis was

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covered with monarchs. Yesterday my miss
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season one we learned Stacy that you
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added to your landscape. But today
also I was thinking about drive by botany,

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Joe Paie weed. So any of
the upatoriums yea, the hardy adgeratum,

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which I believe is in the astor
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them. Am I correctly? Definite? Yeah, And so these butterflies and

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planting for that for next year,
do your planning and plan for it,

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because that fourth generation needs the energy
of the flowers that we put in our

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landscape and our garden and there are
so many great ones. Now a roadside

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weed iron weed is fun to watch
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I'm looking at the botanical name here
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to look it up. But it's
iron weed and bright purple flowers. Beautiful.

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It's such a beautiful plant. And
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think, once you know what to
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roads. It is tall, and
you might think, oh, it goes

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by the side of the road,
it's not a garden worthy plant, but

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it absolutely is. It's a fantastic
plant for gardens. It has a strong

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architectural presence, really handsome foliage,
and the color of those flowers is really

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really stands out in the landscape.
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because I have a neighbor who's very
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has iron weed in her landscape.
It's just not it's not only just a

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ditchweed. It is. It is
a beauty solidago also or golden rod.

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It's a herbaceous perennial. Also in
the Astor family proven Winters has a solidago

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named little Lemon, Little Lemon,
and it's sometimes confused with ragweed and wrongfully

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accused of bearing that windborn ragweed pollen
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showy, you know, so the
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people say, oh, my allergies
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thing that all of a sudden I
see everywhere. But that is just not

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fair to solidago, because it is
a marvelous plant, just beautiful. And

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you know, I was driving last
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and miles of it and it's it's
glorious it is, and glorious love it.

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So our second season starts today.
Your second season starts in the garden.

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Fall is for planting. Throughout the
course of the next few months,

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we'll talk about the fact that it's
a great time to control weeds, especially

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familiarizing yourself with winter annuals. It's
the perfect time of the year to control

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weeds. Of course, many of
the plants in my landscape are eligible for

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frequent flyer miles. I've moved them
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move them around and this is a
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And then of course here in the
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good time to take your house plants
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So there's a lot of things in
our job jar and on our worklist

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for fall. And isn't it great
because I love being outside and fall it's

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such a great time to be outside. And for an added bonus, you

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get all that monarch and hummingbird action
too, exactly second seasons. That's what

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we're all about. You know,
I was just thinking about Jimmy Buffett.

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I was so sad this past week. We'll see that Jimmy Buffett had passed

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away, and you know the lyrics
to a song, some of it is

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magic and some of it's tragic,
And I can say that about my garden.

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It's past summer too, But we'll
fix it all here during the months

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of September and October. Plants on
Trial coming up next here on the Gardening

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Simplified Show, Proven Winners, Color
Choice Shrubs cares about your success in the

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garden. That's why we trial and
test all of our shrubs for eight to

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ten years, making sure they outperform
everything else on the market. Look for

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them and the distinctive white container at
your local garden center. Greetings gardening friends,

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and welcome back to The Gardening Simplified
Show Second Seasons. Indeed, so

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it's a second season of The Gardening
Simplified Show, which is great. We

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don't plan on going anywhere, and
I hope that you don't either. We

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truly appreciate you listening, and of
course that has inspired my selection for today's

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plant on Trial, this idea of
second seasons. And you know, really

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I was spoiled for choice trying to
decide what I was going to put on

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the show, because here at proven
Winner's Color Choice Shrubs, we do have

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so many different shrubs that rebloom,
bloom, rang lilac blooms in spring and

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then in summer. We've got reblooming
hydrangeas like the Let's Dance series. We've

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got a reblooming viberne on which we've
discussed Stetti Eddie. We've got a reblooming

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spyriea double play Doozy. But there
is another reblooming shrub in our line that

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has not yet, to my knowledge, come up on The Gardening Simplified show,

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and that is perfecta mundo azaleatastic and
people stacy they people do love azalias.

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Now, I do want to say
right off the bat azaleas or something

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that often confuse people, because yes, you can absolutely grow azalias here in

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Michigan. They're very common as a
landscape plant. But Perfecti mundo is a

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reblooming azaleas. And generally speaking,
the reblooming azaleas are not as hardy as

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the regular azaleas that people grow in
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reason for that is because the genetics, the parentage of the plant that contributes

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that reblooming performance is actually from a
more tender azalea. So generally they have

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not. As breeders have worked harder
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effort into it, they have not
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that one parent that brings in the
reblooming is contributing. So generally speaking,

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if you're not you're sitting there going, hey, reblooming azalias sound great,

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Why don't I have one? Why
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be because it won't grow well in
your area. So most reblooming azaleas are

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hardy to USDA Zone seven six B, and the perfect A mund Of series

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is really no difference. It does
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but usually that's not so much a
function of our temperature, but because we

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have reliable snow cover during the hottest
part or not that hardest the coldest part

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of the year, so then they
have that kind of like puffy jacket on

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when the really really cold weather comes. So that's why you could be say

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in Missouri, going, well,
shoot, I'm a zone six B,

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but I can grow that, and
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someone like us, So it is
something to keep in mind. This is

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one of our plants for probably some
of our more warm climate listeners, but

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even still you can enjoy their beauty
because they are super colorful. And I

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picked Perfected Mundo double Pink to cover
today because it was actually the first of

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the Perfecta Mundo azaleas that we introduced, and it's really a classic pink,

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very very nice color, goes with
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aspect comes in because it blooms really
really well in spring, then takes a

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little bit of a break to put
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will start to bloom again late summer
through fall and perfecting into azalias. There's

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a number of things that are really
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But one of the most important factors
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surprise to most people, and that
is that it is actually a very good

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spring bloomer. So even though these
azaleas have traditionally been marketed as reblooming,

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their spring display was actually not their
shining mow and it was really more of

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the autumn. And that's good.
But you know, when people want an

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azzalea, they're thinking they want that
big spring. So right around the time

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of the Master's Golf tournament early April
or minty, right, you know,

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And so I do want it.
I'm glad you brought that up. There's

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a variety, a huge number of
azaleas at the Master's Golf tournament. They're

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closely associated with it. I'm not
a golfer, but I have found out

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over the years all of this inextricable
relationship between golf and azaleas. It is

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it is a myth that the groundskeepers
are putting ice on the plants to get

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them in bloom. That would not
work. People think that like, oh,

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you know, oh, the groundskeepers
are running around with like a golf

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cart full of ice and putting out
that won't actually work. The flower buds

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are opening based on the temperatures that
they've gotten they've been exposed to so far,

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and just chilling down the roots or
anything like that is not going to

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change the amount of day length and
temperature that the flower buds have been exposed

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to. And they definitely can't put
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the flower, you know, tissue
is so sensitive that it would immediately blacken.

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So whatever you have heard or theorize
or believe about ice on the azaleas

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that the master's it's not true.
So you can tell your golfing friends that

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when you're waiting around for your turn
on the next hole. But anyway,

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but anyway, they are these perfectly
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and then again they take that break
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fall. And that's just one of
the things that really make them different.

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These plants came to us from a
person that I have spoken about many many

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times on the show over the past
year, and we'll continue as a show

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goes on. And that is doctor
Tom Rainey from North Carolina State University.

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He is truly one of our most
innovative plant breeders, really just genius level

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art and science and the combination of
the two to develop these new plants and

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to develop these reblooming azelias. You
know, he was really working hard.

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Obviously, like I said, everyone
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there's other factors that are so important. Again, that spring bloom, which

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you would think is an automatic but
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We want big flowers with extra petals, because single azelias are beautiful,

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but most people do want that more
frilly, you know, bold bloom,

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good saturated colors. Good disease resistance, particularly a lot of azalea and rhododendron

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diseases are cultural. So that means
that it's not just like, oh,

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the plant is susceptible. It means
it has to have the right conditions to

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grow in to avoid getting root rot
diseases and that kind of thing. But

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they do tend to also resist azalea
lacebug, which is an issue for a

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lot of gardeners. In the South. And then of course you need what

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everybody loves about azaleas is that nice, tight, cute little habit. I

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mean, people are out there trimming
there azalias to get that. So we

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don't want to introduce a big,
gangly azalea. That's just gonna make people

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work even harder. So Tom and
his crew at North Carolina State University have

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been working really hard. It is
the biggest, the Perfecti Mundo azalea trial

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that we have done to select the
varieties that are in the line so far.

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Is the largest and most expansive that
we have ever conducted here at Proven

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Winners Color Choice Shrubs. You can
find links to it on our YouTube channel,

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where you're also find the YouTube version
of our But our R and D

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team developed this extremely complex matrix of
data so that they could really compare things

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to one another, compare things to
varieties that are already on the market.

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It was a massive data undertaking.
So if you think that you know,

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introducing new plants is as simple as
walking down the island going yep, that's

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pretty let's introduce that, it is
not. You have to That's very true.

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There's a lot that goes into that. A lot of data points.

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They call it, yes, so
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I think makes these really interesting is
that they have had so much thought and

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effort and purposefulness behind them because a
lot of people, again they don't realize

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they think, well, gosh,
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Well, I'll tell you every azalia
in this trial, Almost every azalia

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in this trial is genuinely beautiful.
Yeah, they're irresistible, they really are.

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But they're not all high performance.
And that's really what we're going for,

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well as far as high performance is
concerned. So you have deciduous azaleas

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and you have what we consider broad
leaf evergreen. We're talking about perfect a

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mundo. Perfecto mundo doesn't keep its
foliage in winter, so it is a

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semi evergreen. I knew there'd be
a complicated answer, So semi evergreen,

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and I think we actually just talked
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we were talking about gembox ink berry
holly. So semi evergreen means that it

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keeps the foliage on the ends of
its branches, but generally the middle foliage

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will drop. It's totally normal.
Now, if you do live, say

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in like Florida or a very very
warm climate, or you have an unusually

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mild winter, you may find that
it does not lose all of its loses

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less of its foliage, or maybe
even stays evergreen. But when we get

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into evergreen azalias, that's when we're
really getting into much more tender kind of

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azalias that aren't going to do well, and it's one of the factors that

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make them less likely to grow in
a place like say Michigan or elsewhere in

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the Midwest. Well, another question
I have on perfect a Mundo is was

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it named that way because of the
Fonds Arthur Fonzarelli Happy Days in nineteen seventy

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six nineteen seventy seven, when I
was in high school, that show was

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hot. Everybody liked the Fonds.
The Fonds would always say perfect the Mundo.

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There were so many great characters on
that show. I love The guy

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who owned Arnold's drive in his name
was Mitsumu Takahashi. Oh, but he

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changed his name to Arnold because he
didn't want the expense of changing the sign.

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Too many letters in Mitsumo Takahashi.
So anyhow, I was just curious

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if Perfect the Mundo was named after
Arthur Fonzarelli. Well, so I think

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if you were to look at all
of the names in the proven Winner's Color

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choice line, you would find your
answer, and it is absolutely yes,

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thank you. It is yes.
It was named for the fonds Is one

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of the fonds Is signature sayings.
I don't think we'll name a plant sit

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on it, or a or anything
like that. But it also we love

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the fact that perfecti mundo, even
though he was kind of like, you

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know, making it a take on
Italian pronunciation of that, it also means

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perfect world in Spanish, and we
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perfect azaleas for an imperfect world,
because they really are solving a lot of

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the problems that other azalias have and
nothing's perfect, but these are pretty much

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as close as you can get when
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but not to worry, because you
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We're gonna take a little break and when

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Gardening Simplified Show. I and Rick
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the past year, sometimes we've probably delivered

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But you know, we will always
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the garden mail bag this week?
Rick, Let's take a look. Janelle

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asked, what are your thoughts on
old rose varieties in Michigan. Interesting question.

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It is an interesting question, and
obviously I love being asked for my

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thoughts about something. It's you know, opens up a door. Okay,

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okay, so my thoughts. I
love old old rose varieties, I truly

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do. And you know, they
are generally old roses were a lot of

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times in the show we've talked about
how whether you're breeding for annuals, perennial

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shrubs, whatever, you have a
breeding goal in mind. There's a specific

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thing or things that you want to
accomplish in developing that plant. And the

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breeding goals for old roses were completely
different than the breeding goals for roses over

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the past, you know, thirty
years or so, and that was that

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they were mostly developed for fragrance,
fragrance, fragrance, fragrance. So in

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that case, I love them.
That the flowers are marvelously fragrant, really

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just unworldly smells. You can smell
all sorts of different nuances in them.

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But what people need to know about
them is that they are not generally disease

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resistant, so they can readily succumbed
to even like a little bit of powder

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email do. A black spot is
going to it's going to make a big

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difference on these plants, So you
either have to be prepared to live with

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that or treat it, which is
one of the reasons why these roses have

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fallen out of favor. And second
that there really was not the expectation or

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even realization that roses could rebloom.
So these are roses that are going to

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have a relatively small amount of flowers
in early summer and then they're not really

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going to do much again until the
following summer. And that's totally fine.

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There is a place for everything,
you know, but I think that if

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you want to grow old roses,
you do need to sort of reassess your

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expectations of what they're going to do. And you have to be in it

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because you want that uniqueness, you
want that story, and so many of

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them have such incredible stories. So
I highly encourage anyone who's interested in growing

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old roses to do so, but
to know that they're not going to perform

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like the OsO Easy roses. They're
not going to perform like the Landscape roses.

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They aren't even going to perform like
other series that we have improven winners

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like Rise Up or reminiscent that have
old fashioned appeal and old fashioned charm but

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modern day performance. But even those, they're not going to have that just

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really complex and unique fragrance that of
those truly old rows as well. Yeah,

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with the old roses, you're gonna
have to look at watering at the

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base, You're gonna have to become
an expert at pruning, sanitation, in

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fall clean up. You're gonna have
to protect that graft in cold areas so

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that they over winter and stacy with
this issue. I don't blame Janelle.

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I agree the fragrance and the beauty
unreal, but your reminiscent rose comes close

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to matching it. They do come
close. They're really beautiful. They have

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that big pedal count cabbage rose as
they call it. They are very fragrant.

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Now, if you compare them to
certain old roses, you're not going

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to get that, just like I
don't know, I can't even really explain

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it, just that complete sensory overload
where the fragrance is just so strong.

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Yeah, exactly. You know what
my favorite old roses are. I love

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the moss roses. Have you seen
those before? They the buds get covered

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with these weird fleshy, little green
tubercles that look like they're covered in moss,

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and then that flower just explodes open
and the fragrance is amazing, and

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they're just their conversation piece. But
again, they're not going to perform like

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that landscape rose. So it's just
important that people understand what they're getting and

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are choosing to grow them based on
that story, based on them having that

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great story, based on having that
amazing history and being content with you know,

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perhaps ten to twenty flowers a year
instead of ten to twenty flowers new

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flowers every single day like you get
with the landscape rose. Maintenance issues exactly.

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Edward has two questions. I bought
a few different Piniculata hydranges in quart

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size, live in Zone four,
Minneapolis, Minnesota. I'm naturally concerned that

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because these plants are so small,
I should cover them up for winter.

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I was thinking we should cover them
with styrofoam domes or something similar so they

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don't get crushed by the snow.
And then a separate question, can you

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discuss sun requirements for incrediballs? Yeah, so, Edward, this is a

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great question, and panical hydrangeas are
some of the hardiest hydranges out there.

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They're hardy to USDA Zone three.
So in your case, there's no need

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to protect the hydrangees just for the
sake of getting them through winter. But

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you are right since they are a
quart size, which is generally like a

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mail order size, it's pretty small, roughly a four and a half inch

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wide and deep pots. Absolutely snow
can crush them at such a small plant

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is like a little snack for a
rabbit hopping around out there. Mice can

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girdle it, so you do.
Probably it's a good idea to give them

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that extra la of protection until they
get a little bit bigger, and then

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they'll be perfectly fine. So I
think those styrofoam cones, which they actually

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sell for roses, would be perfectly
fine to just you know, get and

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set out there. You can even
use something that you might have, like

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a plastic garbage can or something like
that, if that's easier. I just

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think that it's super important to poke
ventilation holes in the styrofoam cone, super

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important, And Edward, my recommendation
here in Windy West, Michigan is make

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sure it's seated well on the sorrows
so a mouse can't get underneath it.

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And then when we get those windstorms, you know what I do. I

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get a sharpie marker and I write
my phone number and then my neighbors collect

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them for Oh that's nice. And
you could do the same in Minnie apples.

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I'm sure you have lots of nice
neat yes, Minnesota nice right.

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Seeah, maybe weigh it down with
some soil as you're as you're securing them

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down or something like that, but
you do want to keep them in place.

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They won't need it for long,
I'd say a winter or two.

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By the time you are no longer
able to fit that seraphum cone over them,

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they should be just fine to go
on their own. And then you

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had a question about sun requirements for
incredibles, and I thought this was a

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really good question because we hear from
so many gardeners who will look at our

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tags and say, hey, I'm
looking at incredible and it says full center

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parts on. Well, which is
it? And the answer is it really

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depends on where you live. Our
tags go on plants all over the country,

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and so we don't know if you're
buying it in Minneapolis, Minnesota,

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or if you're buying it in Arkansas. And we really have no way to

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segment it out that way. So
the answer is that in a colder climate

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like Minneapolis, you can absolutely grow
Incredible in full sun six or more hours

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of bright sun a day, especially
if you've got mulch and some irrigation,

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they'll be perfectly fine. Now.
On the other hand, if you do

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live in Arkansas or Dallas or one
of those warmer climates, you're definitely gonna

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want parts on and you're gonna want
that shade during the hottest part of the

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day in the afternoon, and you're
definitely going to want mulch on that.

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Yes, Incredible can take part sun
in cooler climates like ours. It cannot

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take full sun in warmer climates.
But you do have to understand that even

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in cooler climates, if they get
too much shade, that does start to

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impact the number of flowers they create. The stems might not be as strong

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because they're kind of reaching more for
the light, but they can grow,

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they'll live, and they'll look pretty
good, but they'll be happier if they

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get at least some sun each day. Great questions, Edward, Thank you

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very mulch. Ashley writes to us
about a struggle with containers realizing the soil

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and the containers isn't absorbing water.
And Ashley did a little research and said,

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I think I have hydrophobic soil.
What's the deal? What do I

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do with that? You know?
I thought this was such a good question

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because it's something that is very apt
to happen. It doesn't always happen.

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And the reason that this happens is
because potting mixes that you'd use in a

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container are very high in peat moss, and peat moss is naturally hydrophobic exactly,

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and then once it loses its moisture
trying to exactly so, that means

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it's very difficult to rewet once it
dries. And one of the things that

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can happen, especially in a container, is that that surface starts to dry

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out and then nothing can get through
it. But there are a couple of

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things that you can do to rewet
it. So number one, you can

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just try kind of if you can
get in there, you can just rough

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it up with your fingers to try
to get increase that surface area. You

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can also put a drop of dish
soap in a watering can, so not

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like a ton of water, but
just a little bit of water. Put

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one drop of dish soap and that
will actually break the surface tension. Interest

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you can also use warm water,
and that warm water tip is a really

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good one, especially if you're working
with potting mix or seed starting mix in

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spring indoors. Warm water can really
work. Wonders on rewetting your peat.

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See if I've feel the waters running
across the top surface and then down the

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sides of the pot because it's hydrophobic, I use a screwdriver. I just

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use a screwdriver and get your aggressions
out and just and it's worked for me

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every time. So for the screwdriver
method will also work. So lots of

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a drink a screw driver yea.
So lots of options there for resolving your

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hydrophobic soil. If you have questions
for us, please reach out at Gardening

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Simplified on air dot com. When
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It's time for branching News, and
right off the bat today for branching

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News, wanted to mention a limerick
to celebrate the event. But prior to

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that, I'm kind of excited about
the fact that we are now on Instagram.

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Ok, here we are. That's
cool. Yes, it is very

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cool. And so the reason we
created an Instagram account is, you know,

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obviously we talk about a lot of
things that where we're referencing pictures,

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right, we also know that we
have a number of followers who use Instagram

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and we would love the opportunity to
reshare your pictures, as you know,

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to our audience as we grow that
audience. So you'll find us on Instagram

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at Gardening Simplified Show. So please
give us a like and let us know

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what you think, and we will
continue to put content on there. You'll

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be able to see whatever plant we
put on trial, things that we're sharing

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and seeing here on the Trial Gardens. It's going to be a little bit

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of everything, and I think it's
going to be a lot of fun and

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keep sending us your questions and your
pictures Gardening Simplified show OnAir dot com.

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And remember also that when you send
us something, we of course are on

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YouTube also and we may share that
also on the YouTube version of our show,

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because everybody loves to see what everyone
else has got cooked in their gardens.

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Exactly now, Limerick to celebrate our
first anniversary here on YouTube, radio

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and podcast. Thankful for support.
We've amassed one year is quite an accomplishment.

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We appreciate your acknowledgement for us.
It has been a blast. We

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know that we're a combo that it
takes some give and go about weeds hose's

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deer. We have ranted on this
show that we have planted, and even

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the occasional blamole. Thanks for sending
us a question and even the occasional suggestion.

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With little control or dominion, we
still will share our opinion and try

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not to cause indigestion. So pardon
the puns and prognostication and the occasional mispronunciation.

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We handled occasional controversy and made it
to our one year anniversary still standing

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and dodged cancelation, so there's celebratory
limerick. So do you are there certain

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things stacy that you buy impulsively,
like regularly? Yeah? Anything, almost

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certainly. Yeah. See for me, I buy plants impulsively. I'm one

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of those people walking around the yard
with a plant in one hand and a

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shovel in the other, you know, trying to find a place to put

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it. I also am an impulsive
buyer. I learned this about myself at

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bargain stores or second hand stores or
thrift stores, because I don't know,

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it's it's no longer impulsive, it's
serendipity. Serendipity it is. It's like,

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well, if I don't buy this, it's not going to be here

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as money, and it's really cheap
because it's secondhand. So I kind of

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buy impulsively at thrift stores because it's
fun just to go in there and poke

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around. Now, the most common
impulse buys of twenty twenty three, according

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to a survey that will post on
our website. Number one on the list

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is clothing. Food is number two, and household items number three. Then

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shoes, take out, books,
toys, technology, and of course coffee.

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Everybody buys coffee. It is really
an impulse buy You're just like,

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oh, coffee sounds good, I'll
have one, not like, oh,

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I don't really need any, you
know, jujubs. But here I am

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in the checkout line, so I
guess i'll get some good point. I

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don't know. You can buy an
ointment for impulsiveness. It helps with rash

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00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,840
decisions. Okay, so we'll post
that for you. A community in South

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Florida has an adorable problem on its
hands. Dozens of domesticated bunnies have overrun

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parts of Wilton Manners, a suburb
of Fort Lauderdale. I've been there two

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years after a resident let loose lion
head rabbits from their yard. They have

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real they're real fluffy, they're so
cute, and they're adorable. Exactly.

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They probably don't like Florida, And
right right, the neighbors the residents are

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are basically divided, some allegedly threatening
to shoot the bunnies and others trying to

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save the bunnies or let them roam
free. But you're right. The animals,

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which are prone to heat stroke,
have been digging holes in the ground

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to escape the oppressive heat and the
irritation of some residents. So so know,

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I've had a pet rabbit before.
There are so many misconceptions about pet

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rabbits. They are not like hamsters. They're more like a dogger cat,

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which you can't leave them alone for
a weekend. And I think when a

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lot of people find that, they
just say, well, we'll shoot,

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I'm just going to get rid of
this rabbit, and they let them go

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in the wild, which is terrible
for the rabbit, it's terrible for the

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environment. So, you know,
a lot of people who have owned rabbits

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definitely take a strong stand on knowing
all the facts before you get a rabbit,

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and if you don't want it,
definitely give it up to a rabbit

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foster or local animal shelter. Please, please, please, as the story

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shows, do not release them into
the wild, no matter what other rabbits

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you're seeing around. Don't be part
of the problem. And that's what they're

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trying to do here and collect them
up, so hopefully they're successful in that.

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Hopefully this story has a happy ending. A Canadian farmer has been ordered

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to pay more than sixty one thousand, seven hundred and eighty four dollars in

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damages over and in oji. It
was a confusion. He had a contract

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to grow flax, as I understand
it, and the communication between him and

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the grains buyer basically resulted in him
just sending an emoji a thumbs up on

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the contract, and a judge ruled
that a thumbs up emoji is as good

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as a signature, because he backed
out of that order as I understand it,

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and the judge is making him stick
to it, because a thumbs up

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00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,800
emoji is as good as a signature
according to this judge. Oh y,

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that's interest, God forbid you.
It takes the heart emoji that what's gonna

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happen to you goes to show you
you win thumb, you lose thumb.

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00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,159
Oh my, yeah. So next
time you thumbs up emoji something I don't

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know, be a little bit careful
because it's subject to interpretation. Right,

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Just send something really confusing and totally
not Jermaine to the subject to be safe.

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The judge says, I'm satisfied on
the balance of probabilities that Chris okayed

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or approved the contract just like he
had done before, except this time he

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used a thumbs up emoji. A
thumbs up maybe handy, but now he

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has a sore thumb and he has
to pay out sixty one thousand dollars because

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that is an expensive emoji. Now
I want to ask you a question,

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Stacy. I have often looked at
the festival in Spain that took place last

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week. It happens every year,
and that is the Toma Tina Festival where

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they bring in one hundred and twenty
tons of over ripe tomatoes and let people

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have at it for about an hour
lunchtime the last Wednesday in August and they

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00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,960
battle in they battle in the street. Tickets for the festivals start at twelve

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euros or thirteen bucks to participate in
tomatino. I would like to do that.

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00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,800
You would, Oh, would that
be a blast or what? Well?

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00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Okay, so I'm just thinking this
being the overripe tomato season, have

534
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,880
you smelled an over ripe tomato?
Because they can get pretty gross. Bad

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00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,000
tomatoes have a liquidation, that's what
they have. You know, what do

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00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:28,920
you do with bad tomato workers?
You can cam them, but in this

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00:41:29,119 --> 00:41:31,320
case, they take them into the
streets and people just chuck them at each

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00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,320
other and they're covered they you know, they're just covered in tomato juice.

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00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,800
And now that would be a cool
I think they have it set up so

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00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:45,920
that within an hour after you do
this, everybody showered off, washed off,

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00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:49,559
and you walk away happy and saucy
and all that kind of stuff.

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00:41:49,639 --> 00:41:52,880
Oh my goodness, I would not
like to. I would I wouldn't be

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00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:55,880
I'd be okay with watching, but
I would not want to participate. So

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00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,440
I can tell you that it just
sounds sting. It could be if the

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00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:07,079
tomato is somewhat yeah, firm,
like it's you know, like all the

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00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,119
acid like sometimes if you're working with
tomatoes a lot, it can even kind

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00:42:10,119 --> 00:42:14,559
of irritate your hands, so,
you know, being covered head to toe

548
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:20,360
and almost rotten tomatoes just as not. Well, if I'm in Spain,

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00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,639
there's other things I want to be
doing. That's I guess that's what I'm

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00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:28,079
saying. Tomatina is on my bucket
list, Stacy. We want to thank

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00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:35,440
our listeners are viewers. Again.
We are on radio, we podcast,

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00:42:35,639 --> 00:42:37,840
and then of course we are on
YouTube. You get a lot of bonus

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00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:43,719
footage on YouTube. Adriana puts in
pictures of plants on trial and other fun

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00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,119
little things, so the YouTube people
have like a totally different experience. So

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00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,880
if you listen to us on podcast
or radio, swing over sometime check us

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00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,960
out on YouTube too. We'd love
that and you can see what it is

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we do here on the Gardening Simplify
Show. Happy one year, We start

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year number two and enjoyed doing the
show with you today, Stacy, look

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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,000
forward to our next one and of
course thank you to Adrianna Robinson, our

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engineer and producer. Have yourself a
great week. We'll talk to you again

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next week here on The Gardening Simplified
Show.
