WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.039 --> 00:00:21.760 True of the footprints, namely their remarkable consistency, their biomechanical appropriateness, spanning 2 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:28.399 the entire globe, involving hundreds of different cultures, betwaining the same phenomenon by 3 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:32.840 different names. At some point you have to go, even as a scientist, 4 00:00:32.920 --> 00:00:36.320 you have to say, well, there's got to be jumping. It 5 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:42.479 can't all be back. Welcome to Out of the Woods with the Big Foot 6 00:00:42.520 --> 00:00:47.560 Influencers. My name's Tim. I am thrilled that you guys are joining us, 7 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.799 and I'm thrilled for our guest. Today. We're going to have the 8 00:00:51.920 --> 00:00:57.759 one and only DJ from Calling All Beans Podcasts or c AB as they call 9 00:00:57.799 --> 00:01:00.679 it. DJ and I met, oh God, not that long ago, 10 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.319 but we connected through this. This is like a family, you know, 11 00:01:03.400 --> 00:01:07.640 all of us who do these podcasts, and he's just good people. Him 12 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.159 and the crew that he worked with. They have an amazing show. And 13 00:01:11.200 --> 00:01:15.359 we're going to bring DJ on and we're just going to talk about what they 14 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:19.040 do on their podcast and share that with you. So as you guys are 15 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.799 out there looking for content, looking for things to listen to, you'll have 16 00:01:22.840 --> 00:01:25.719 another place to go. So I'm going to keep it short and sweet. 17 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.200 If you want to follow us, you can go to the Bigfoot Influencers dot 18 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.159 com. You can head over to Facebook at the Bigfoot Influencers. 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For 29 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:17.840 there? He is the one and only. How are you doing, man? 30 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:22.560 Yeah? What's going on? Brother? Oh? Man? I can't 31 00:02:22.599 --> 00:02:24.199 I love it and I'm loving life, you know, I just I'm here 32 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.520 talking to you. I can't get better. Man. Just promised me. 33 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:30.599 Tim, we gotta at least talk a little bit of Bigfoot during this twenty 34 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:36.479 This is your show today, We're gonna let you. We're gonna talk about 35 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.800 what you want to talk about. I mean, there's gonna be some questions. 36 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.840 Obviously, you're trying to talk a little bit about you, you know, 37 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.240 how you got into this, maybe a little bit about who you are 38 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:47.560 where you know, and you've got to You've got a really cool background, 39 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:53.879 and and thank you for your service to the country. And we appreciate everything 40 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:57.599 that and all of our other folks out there doing that and you know, 41 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.599 keeping us safe. So we thank you for that. Comes in all different 42 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:04.280 forms, you know, and you know that being in there. Yes, 43 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.199 what the family, you know, it's what you talked about. Man, 44 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.319 we're all like when And I think the reason that you and I connect and 45 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:15.759 connected so well from when you were in the chat is because we both see 46 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:19.759 this as family and not as rivalry. And the people that see a rivalry 47 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.439 end up hating each other. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, we're doing 48 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:28.039 the opposite of what some of the old school right bigfoot researchers did. Right, 49 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:30.919 it's not that not that some of that may not go on here and 50 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:35.159 there, but there's more collaboration going on. When I wrote the book, 51 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.759 I learned that that than people realize. So there's a lot of folks are 52 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:43.919 doing a lot of things together. So so DJ, you know a little 53 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.199 bit about your background, you know, how do you how do you get 54 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.919 into this and what do you know? What do you do? So real? 55 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.080 Uh, you know, real simply like it's it's funny that I went 56 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.639 through this with matth the other night. But I'm not interviewed all that often 57 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.400 about me personally. But basically, I'm a kid from the Hudson Valley in 58 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:06.919 New York, Hendercutson High School graduate, college graduate. But um, I 59 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:11.159 really connect with my home and I had my first UFO sighting there, which 60 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:16.519 I didn't talk about for about forty years until Dave Fraber, the fighter pilot, 61 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:19.959 came out and spoke about his and then I said, huh so, 62 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:27.360 um so yeah. Basically, uh, what I told Matt was I was 63 00:04:27.399 --> 00:04:32.560 a kid that ostensibly went from special ed to special ops special ed in uh 64 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:40.199 middle school, in high school, started figured out that I could do wrestling 65 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.839 in high school, which then made me believe somehow that I could play college 66 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:46.000 football, even though I had never done either one of those things prior. 67 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:51.360 And I did play college football and semi pro football even and then while I 68 00:04:51.439 --> 00:04:56.560 was in the Air Force, and that took me. I went into the 69 00:04:56.600 --> 00:04:59.839 Air Force, and I just had a lot of confidence as a result of 70 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:04.639 my high school uh just being very supportive. Uh. So I went and 71 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:10.480 got my pilot's license about four years after I joined. I was a maintainer 72 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:14.560 on aircraft. I was not an aviator yet. And then the opportunity came 73 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:17.079 up to do this job called flight engineer where you could sit in between the 74 00:05:17.120 --> 00:05:21.319 pilot and the copilot. And UM, when I saw that, UM, 75 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:26.720 I with my pilot's license kind of helped my resume for that job and I 76 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:31.800 got it. So I spent the rest of my career flying mostly tactical airlift 77 00:05:32.360 --> 00:05:40.800 and mostly in special operations, in full trading, extra trading, resupplying air 78 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:45.040 drop of special app forces. I flew AC one thirty gun ships a little 79 00:05:45.040 --> 00:05:50.560 bit about a year. UM, and even I'm sort of just retired Air 80 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:56.000 Force now, but I've been with afsock, you know, even up to 81 00:05:56.319 --> 00:06:00.959 until this year. So UM a lot of time doing at and studying aviation 82 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:09.720 and flight simulation my most recent gig working with flight simulators and for the audience, 83 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:14.399 probably many things that he'll know would be able to tell us about. 84 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:16.680 Yeah, and nothing that would, frankly, would excite you guys, because 85 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:21.120 if it doesn't have to do with UFOs or or knowledge that the Department of 86 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:25.920 Interior may or may not have about Bigfoot. I mean it's it's you know, 87 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:30.160 it's not all that awesome. So um, you know, it's it's 88 00:06:30.199 --> 00:06:34.000 really not about me, but it is interesting. You mentioned the diverse group, 89 00:06:34.120 --> 00:06:35.959 you know, and even you look at CAB. You know, we 90 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:41.600 have Nathan who has a master's in divinity. We have deb who's a mental 91 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:46.959 health professional counselor. We have Leah who's a library science major and is an 92 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:49.759 absolute book fanatic. We have Frank who is a professional drummer, and then 93 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:58.800 we have Matt, the brilliant Bigfoot researcher and sort of all around intellect. 94 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:02.680 Matt is just one of those very worldly, very thoughtful individuals, and that 95 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:05.720 if you look at just that that kind of you know, you know, 96 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:11.160 you and Dana and then you know a Cliff was a teacher. You know, 97 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:16.360 we have law enforcement professionals that are working as Bigfoot you know, should 98 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:21.040 I say researchers or investigators, So it we spanned the gamut into me that 99 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:26.720 that's a beautiful thing. Um. So anyway, just the podcast portion, 100 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:31.759 real quick is that I was in MMA podcasting for a long time, since 101 00:07:31.800 --> 00:07:36.920 about twenty ten or two thousand and nine, and then again with that Dave 102 00:07:38.000 --> 00:07:43.240 Fraver incident, I ended up reconnecting with the young man who was with me 103 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.959 for the UFO sighting who's now and you know, he's now my Asians fifties, 104 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:53.480 and we you know, we spoken, compared notes and I said, 105 00:07:53.519 --> 00:07:57.199 you know what, I'm changing my pot I don't care about broadcasting about the 106 00:07:57.279 --> 00:08:03.639 UFC anymore. I want broadcast about UFOs. And my partners did not go 107 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:09.360 along with me. My podcast partners, so I went alone and I got 108 00:08:09.399 --> 00:08:13.439 some pretty high profile guests to come on right away, and one of them, 109 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.879 I mean for a show that had you know, no listeners. And 110 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:20.120 one of them came on and a guy I had a caller all of a 111 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:24.079 sudden, oh here's a caller wants to call in. And talked to this 112 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:28.360 a great guest name. His name is Andy mcgrillan of that UFO podcast. 113 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.039 He's a brilliant interviewer and content creator. So this guy calls in and and 114 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.960 I'm kind of looking at the screen and go, man, this guy's amazing 115 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:41.639 what he's saying. This guy that's asking questions of Andy. It turned out 116 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:46.480 to me Nathan, so so I said, hey, um, your name 117 00:08:46.639 --> 00:08:50.919 Nathan, sir. I'm gonna DM you after the show. I feel like 118 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.360 you and I need to talk. And then it wasn't long thereafter. He 119 00:08:54.440 --> 00:08:58.480 was just an avatar. He didn't show his face at the time, and 120 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.759 calling all Beings was born one. So yeah, so so so for the 121 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:07.320 audience, calling all beans is the name of beings beans that I said that 122 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:11.279 wrong. It sounded like beans, but I think we all do it. 123 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:16.799 But when you hear DJ Sacab that's what he means, so one when we 124 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:22.279 talk about that. So so that's that's awesome. You have such a great 125 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.559 crew there and we had so much fun. And now I understand if you 126 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:30.600 had an MMA podcast background. That's the intro. I mean, you come 127 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:33.879 in like a train, which is awesome. That's probably why, right, 128 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.159 Yeah, we we've sort of just figured out that. Um, it's just 129 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:43.679 kind of an expression of my personality that which I can't use in a military 130 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:48.519 setting or in a professional uh working for the d D or anything like that. 131 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.000 But it comes out, uh in the podcast, because then I can 132 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.080 really you know, express the parts of my personality that I can't during during 133 00:09:56.120 --> 00:10:01.759 the work day. So um, so yeah, it's uh man, it's 134 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:05.080 become you know, we have these certain little formulas. We you know, 135 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:11.000 we have this really raucous intro and we want the guests to see you see 136 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.440 it, says co conspirator on My My Tager, and it means co conspirator 137 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:22.440 in welcoming, fun, entertaining and interesting talk about the phenomenon, which is 138 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:30.919 includes now UFOs, Bigfoot, and paranormal or mat says the unexplained. So 139 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:35.279 he finished our our episode with you. Right when we left, Dana said, 140 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.120 wow, that was so fun. I mean she just and I was. 141 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.320 We just had a blast and it was informative and you, I mean 142 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.679 with your panel, it's it's it was just great. Yeah, we just 143 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.919 have so uh, we're gonna get into how folks can follow you, you 144 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:54.480 know here in a little while, so high level or not. If I'm 145 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:58.559 tuning into your show for the first time, you know, what do we 146 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:01.039 what's the concept? What can we expack from your show? Well that that 147 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:05.360 that it was basically the aforementioned First of all, the guest is going to 148 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:09.440 feel and you guys do the same. You guys do the same thing that 149 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:15.000 we do is basically, we want the guests to feel really, really welcome 150 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.039 when they come. We want them to feel how important and how much we 151 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.320 appreciate that or they're there. And again, this is something you two also 152 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:24.440 do. So that's what that's what the intro is about and all that, 153 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:31.600 and then everybody will say hello and introduce themself and then we'll so we want 154 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:35.919 them to feel like so as soon as I start belting out this this thing, 155 00:11:35.000 --> 00:11:37.840 they go, oh wait, this is going to be different than other 156 00:11:37.919 --> 00:11:41.039 shows that I'm on, and so that that's part of it. So we 157 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:43.600 put them in a place where they're kind of like, wow, this, 158 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:48.000 you know. So we do that and then we welcome them in and then 159 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:52.360 they're gonna get um. We want it to be positive. So you'll never 160 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:58.679 hear us talk about negatively about a content creator that we don't like, or 161 00:11:58.799 --> 00:12:05.360 somebody who's bringing negativity into the community, or someone's research methods in this case 162 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:09.120 of Bigfoot, you'll hear on shows where people will decry someone else's research methods. 163 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.639 You don't need to do that. You can just talk about your research 164 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.519 methods, about how you do it, not how well these you know a 165 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:18.919 lot of people do X. You don't have to talk about a lot of 166 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:22.159 people. Just talk about what you do and let that be what you're trying 167 00:12:22.200 --> 00:12:26.240 to inform the audience on rather than having them maybe take a negative view of 168 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:31.759 another person. So you won't hear that stuff. So it's positive, it's 169 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:35.000 welcoming, and we're gonna we do like an electrical sign wave, you know, 170 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:41.200 alternating current. Right, there's a little bit of a sign wave there, 171 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:43.519 so we want it. You know. We may say something funny and 172 00:12:43.639 --> 00:12:48.000 have a quip or ask them about their favorite potato chips, and then we're 173 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:52.399 going to get into this serious talk where the tone is serious, and then 174 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:54.759 a little while later we you know, a couple questions later, we may 175 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.960 go up and say something to make them giggle at a little bit again, 176 00:13:00.360 --> 00:13:03.000 and we'll kind of go on that sign wave, um until we get to 177 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:07.200 the end of the show. And then you hear when we do Cabby goodbyes, 178 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:13.600 everybody says goodbye to the guest individually and says what they feel they want 179 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:18.799 to how they want to thank that guest for coming on culminating with me and 180 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:24.799 then and then the closing. So so speaking of potato chips, So DG 181 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.279 and I had had a conversation about potato. I'm not a ripple guy. 182 00:13:28.360 --> 00:13:31.600 I mean I eat ripple, but that's not my preference is the not the 183 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:35.559 normal ones. So okay, put that in your database. Okay, so 184 00:13:35.600 --> 00:13:39.840 we need to all right, we'll have to let me, let me get 185 00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:43.960 bat. I've already told the cabbies about Old Bay, yeah, which I've 186 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:48.720 never heard of. So is this is this a Maryland thing? So? 187 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:52.879 Yeah, so Old Bay is a is a is a seasoning that was originated 188 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:58.159 in the Baltimore area on the chest Big Bay and it's crab seasoning. So 189 00:13:58.360 --> 00:14:01.000 oh, I know Old Bay is, but I haven't seen Old Bay chips 190 00:14:01.360 --> 00:14:05.799 like Nathan knew about it. Yep, yeah, yeah, there's there's also 191 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.120 so there's one of the local I think out of Pennsylvania, and there might 192 00:14:09.120 --> 00:14:13.679 be a couple other ones. They have their own they have Old Bay. 193 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:18.720 So it's a it's it's it's not Old Bay flavor chips. It is old 194 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.759 Bait potato chips, like they're there, they produce it. No, and 195 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:26.279 you know, I think it's really it's potato chips with with the seasoning on 196 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:30.000 top of it, you know, already kind of baked in. I guess. 197 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:35.080 Yeah, Okay, is this something you can buy in a bag or 198 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:37.679 is this something you get in a restaurant you can buy in the bag? 199 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:43.519 Yeah? You know yeah, down, you know, up some of the 200 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.360 seafood places you might find it, and we put it on French fries and 201 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:48.200 we put it on I put it down everything. So when you get down 202 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:50.840 to the you know, up to this part of the world and you get 203 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:54.840 near the beach, you can get those big fancy as not fancy, but 204 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.519 the big beach fries are come in a big bucket and they're mess and you 205 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:03.120 can just war year Old Bay or sometimes if it's not Old Bay brand, 206 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:05.799 they'll have their own seafood seasoning brand, but they're trying to make it taste 207 00:15:05.799 --> 00:15:11.559 like Old Bay. So yeah, man, I've just been culturally enriched him 208 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:16.360 because now I am going to try Old Bay on the French fries at home, 209 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:18.600 and I want to experience that and I will report back to your post 210 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.879 taste. I love it, love it, love it, love it, 211 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:24.840 love it. It's awesome. Awesome. So so DJ, you mentioned that 212 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:31.879 you know you had a sighting because your your your podcast covers a lot of 213 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.840 strange things as you mentioned before, So you had a sighting when you're younger, 214 00:15:35.840 --> 00:15:39.360 then you later on you connected with someone and so eventually that's what inspired 215 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.559 you to move away from the MMA and just push you into doing this. 216 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:50.559 Yeah. I mean basically, um, I come from the military aviator background, 217 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:54.600 although I don't place myself as a pilot. I'm kind of like a 218 00:15:54.639 --> 00:16:00.639 Pop Warner player compared to David Fraber, who would be like Tom Brady m 219 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:07.039 or in your case, maybe Lamar Jackson sou um but um um. So 220 00:16:07.080 --> 00:16:11.159 when he came out and you know, he went on Joe Rogan. Obviously, 221 00:16:11.159 --> 00:16:15.879 they built that twenty seventeen um New York Times article that broke the UFO 222 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.879 topic open at the with the help of Christopher Mellen, who gave them those 223 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:27.960 videos, and luel Azando and Tom DeLong Um. The reason that that the 224 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:33.480 UFO topic is in this space right now and the Bigfoot topic is not is 225 00:16:33.519 --> 00:16:40.720 simply because the Bigfoot topic does not have a Christopher Mellen, a luel Azando 226 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:45.240 or a David Fraver or any of those three or four naval aviators that came 227 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.360 out went on sixty minutes for example. That's the that's the delta, if 228 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.919 you will, between these two topics, is the lack of one over the 229 00:16:52.960 --> 00:16:56.600 other. So when that happened, I said, well, I want to 230 00:16:56.600 --> 00:17:00.799 start talking about it, and I actually did on the MMA show have my 231 00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:06.680 h the gentleman that was with me named Kenny, he came on, we 232 00:17:06.759 --> 00:17:11.440 recounted the event and talked about it. And then right after that, I 233 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:14.000 got home from this trip and I said to my co host, I said, 234 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:17.200 I'm going to start doing UFOs and they're just like, okay, yeah, 235 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:18.519 um, yeah, we're not going to do that. And I said, 236 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.720 all right, brother, and I still talk to these guys, we 237 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:23.039 have a private chat all the time, but they just didn't want to do 238 00:17:23.079 --> 00:17:26.000 it. So hey, you know what, what we do. We do 239 00:17:26.079 --> 00:17:30.160 things we're passionate about, and they don't have to be passionate about UFOs. 240 00:17:30.279 --> 00:17:33.319 Is fine, right, but they're obviously you guys are passionate about MMA. 241 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.319 You did that, and they that's totally fine. And that's what makes makes 242 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:41.440 us fun as we get to talk about things that we like and enjoy all 243 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:45.759 of us had grappled together. So I had grappled with both these guys in 244 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:51.319 jiu jitsu in different states. Actually one of them I grappled with in Ohio, 245 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.759 the other one I grappled with in California. And they're both Asian guys, 246 00:17:55.759 --> 00:17:59.640 and they made that connection. One's Chinese, one's Japanese. And so 247 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:02.440 we uh, you know, we we made it. We had a really 248 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:06.440 good MMA show. It was it was good, um, you know, 249 00:18:06.519 --> 00:18:08.480 so that that was our connection. But they just you know, they didn't 250 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:12.480 have the passion about this topic. H And I want to say this for 251 00:18:12.519 --> 00:18:17.359 the audience. I want to make this clear. I am as passionate about 252 00:18:17.480 --> 00:18:22.880 Bigfoot and and of now really I'm getting into paranormal and that's coming up as 253 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:26.039 a third But if I had, if I had to say, there's a 254 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:32.200 one in one a you know, Bigfoot and UFOs I have an equal passion 255 00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:36.599 for and I'm really wanting to get more into paranormal and try to understand that 256 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:41.279 phenomenon. And that was a decision that came about quite recently in cab Well, 257 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.279 you got Matt Napp on the show, so and then so between Matt, 258 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:48.319 I'm sure he can pull in a ton of people and of course if 259 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.799 you ever need us, I can, I can. As I mentioned before, 260 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:53.359 we could do tons of ventures, get some folks on your show because 261 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:56.400 they love you. Did you Yeah, I still got to work on those 262 00:18:56.440 --> 00:19:02.000 guys from the conference, but I thank you first set getting that greasing the 263 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:03.960 skids as we say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. 264 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.359 Hey, hey, you know what it's paid forward. You know, I 265 00:19:07.400 --> 00:19:12.599 want to touch on one thing you mentioned. Uh, you know the how 266 00:19:12.640 --> 00:19:18.759 diverse the communities are, and you know, community's community um and and I 267 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:22.079 think White's the diverse is. Um. Hey. Sometimes people just get interested 268 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:26.200 in it for whatever reason. They could be watching TV with their mom and 269 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:29.480 dad, or when their kids or whatever it is. But you know, 270 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:33.200 some people have sightings. I've never had. I mean that I know of 271 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:36.599 who knows I'm a sighting. It's locked back in the back of my head. 272 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:41.720 But hey, one day I did see lights coming through my window my 273 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:45.640 bedroom. Then I looked out and realized that it was a police officers chasing 274 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:51.720 some guys. True story story. I can't lie about that, I thought 275 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.799 as a ufl I ran out to here man. Yeah, I was freaked 276 00:19:55.839 --> 00:20:00.359 out for a minute. But you know what happens, they're not you know, 277 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:03.880 it's they're not selected upon who sees them. I mean some people may 278 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.039 believe that some people have more, but you could have come from any background 279 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:11.480 and UFO siding. So I think that's was really cool. That's why it 280 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:17.680 brings these people together. There's a commonality of there's you know, hey, 281 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:19.319 they don't care, they're gonna, you're gonna. It doesn't matter what which 282 00:20:19.319 --> 00:20:22.119 background as you might see to see one of these things or have an experience. 283 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:27.519 So that's pretty good. So, um, can you share what you've 284 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:33.960 learned about yourself since you moved over from doing you know, the MMA to 285 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:40.200 you know to the the unknown podcast. We'll call it the unknown or the 286 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:45.160 unexplained or yeah, I love that Unexplained business said it does. It does 287 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.200 sort of fit a lot of a lot of our our It sort of encapsulates 288 00:20:48.240 --> 00:20:52.880 a lot of these three genres that we like. Um, I think I've 289 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:59.319 learned about the not only the diversity of people, but the types of personalities 290 00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:03.480 and the sense insitivity. You have to raise your level. I've had to 291 00:21:03.559 --> 00:21:12.039 raise my level of sensitivity and be understanding of people that come from different backgrounds 292 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:21.599 and are more sensitive to certain types of trauma and triggering and different reactions to 293 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:26.559 these things. And that's been really good because as you know, obviously a 294 00:21:26.599 --> 00:21:30.799 lot of people that can come from a military background or a law enforcement background, 295 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:36.720 you need to dull those senses sometimes, particularly in a combat zone where 296 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:42.359 there's not as much time for touchy feelingness and sometimes less than what you would 297 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:47.519 like because sometimes it is necessary even in a combat zone, but it may 298 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:53.319 not be present. And so interacting with all these different people has made me 299 00:21:53.400 --> 00:22:00.400 understand that you need to be aware of that, be sensitive to that, 300 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:06.359 and be available for that, um and that that's helpful. So it's it's 301 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:11.119 broadened my personality out I think a lot, and I you know, I 302 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.759 really like that. It's made me a better open my aperture a little bit 303 00:22:15.759 --> 00:22:19.440 and made me a better person in in ways. Right, Uh, excellent, 304 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:25.400 excellent? Is there am? I know there's probably many. Is there 305 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:30.839 a person that you interviewed that was really that moved you? Can you share 306 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:34.599 one of those experience like a moving interview? This is I should have predicted 307 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:40.960 this question would be asked. Uh, there's been, there's been quite a 308 00:22:41.000 --> 00:22:45.599 few. Excluding Yeah, so yeah, of course, I know. I 309 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:48.319 think Matt asked me the same, He asked me something like that. No, 310 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:53.000 there's been so many. Um you know, if I had to, 311 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.720 if I had to point out one, that just pops into my head because 312 00:22:57.720 --> 00:23:03.920 I would really have to die and deep into this. But I remember when 313 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:07.759 Richard Dodi and those of you have seen a movie Richard Dodi if you've never 314 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.640 heard of him, or Rick Dodi was an Air Force OSI agent at Curtland 315 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:19.240 Air Force Base during the eighties when there was UFO sightings reported by a contractor 316 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:23.079 who worked on the base and lived just outside the base, so his property 317 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:27.519 had view of the base and he started to collect signals because he thought there 318 00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:32.400 were UFOs, and the OSI sent him out there. He's in a movie. 319 00:23:32.440 --> 00:23:37.240 He's profiled in a movie called Mirage Men and very nice guy, and 320 00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:41.960 he was painted as this villainous person because basically the Air Force said, go 321 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:47.359 and tell this guy that what he's seeing as UFOs, when actually what they 322 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:52.640 were doing was sending up certain light patterns and laser lights to blind Russian satellites 323 00:23:52.680 --> 00:23:56.880 that were flying over, trying to visually acquire with sensors what was on the 324 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:00.720 base, and they said, you know, tell this guy that their UFOs, 325 00:24:00.799 --> 00:24:06.160 develop a relationship with him, make sure he doesn't do anything crazy or 326 00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:08.640 whatever, you know. Whatever His orders were were basically to lie to the 327 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:12.480 guy essentially, and that's kind of what you do. I mean, the 328 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:18.559 OSI is basically like the FBI of the Air Force. So he you when 329 00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:22.000 you're told, you know you will go and do this, you will and 330 00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:26.480 he the guy ended up really going crazy. I mean, he really got 331 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:32.680 into UFOs. I want to say the NSA or another three letter agency I 332 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:36.759 would think it was the NSA started to surveil him. Rick Dody ended up 333 00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:41.559 having a standoff with the NSA over whose target this was. And he's like, 334 00:24:41.759 --> 00:24:45.359 this is my investigation. We've been on this. You guys don't have 335 00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:49.319 opcon here and those guys are like, no, we've been directed to come 336 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:55.759 here and surveil this guy who's collecting signals and and it turned into like a 337 00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.720 thing. So, you know, he had dinner with this guy and he's 338 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:00.079 like, Paul, you know you guys to stop. You know, you 339 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:04.079 got you got to stop doing the stop collecting signals. People have their eyes 340 00:25:04.119 --> 00:25:08.160 on you that you don't want. And he ended up he ended up killing 341 00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:14.359 himself, and a lot of people in the community blame Rick Dodie for that, 342 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:22.279 and he started to talk about how bad he felt about that. Um, 343 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:26.200 he's not responsible for this guy doing that. His family knows that, 344 00:25:26.279 --> 00:25:30.400 his family never even filed a civil grievance against Rick Dodi or anything. Um, 345 00:25:30.920 --> 00:25:36.799 but he felt that he wanted to say a maya culpa on our first 346 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.960 of two interviews with him, and that was fairly moving. I can't, 347 00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:44.960 I bet, And that's that's that's the reverse seems seems like the reverse role 348 00:25:45.000 --> 00:25:48.559 because typically, you know, you would think the government would say, no, 349 00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:51.880 those are military lights, those aren't UFOs, and they flipped it on 350 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:56.480 them. Yeah, yes, because they wanted to protect what they were doing. 351 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.440 And Rick has come out and said he was read into the program. 352 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:06.720 He got to see videos of actual UFOs and actual beings that we had captured 353 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.480 back in the forties or eight I think it was a being at least one. 354 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.640 So he no, no, not there. I mean no, this 355 00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:19.079 was like you're talking Roswell now, yeah, but I know I just yeah, 356 00:26:19.160 --> 00:26:22.839 yeah. But Rick Dodi told us, and he's told other shows that 357 00:26:23.319 --> 00:26:29.240 here he was read into this program and has seen bodies, has seen the 358 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.039 whole nine yards. So a lot of people villainize him, and we found 359 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:37.880 him to be very forthcoming with us. Wow, that's that's cool. That's 360 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:41.319 a great story. Thanks for sharing that. So, so one other thing 361 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.880 I want to say real quick, if you get a guy like that on, 362 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:47.599 a guy who's done like counterintel, you know, work work with OSI. 363 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.880 It's actually a former combat controller as an enlisted man. He was an 364 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.000 educator in college and then came back into OSI. You have to know that 365 00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.680 when that guy comes on, you are not going to extract anything out of 366 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:03.799 that that he's not gonna want to give you. He knows how to question 367 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.480 you, he's not worried about how you're gonna try to be the Mike Wallace 368 00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:11.440 with him, right, So all we did was have fun, make him 369 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:14.240 comfortable, joke around with him, and he just started telling us stuff. 370 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.400 Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, Because there's some people here, 371 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:23.359 you know, in the Bigfoot world that have background experience in investigating and understanding 372 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.480 the human you know, the you know, the body language and things like 373 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:30.279 that, and like Steve calls this one, I think of and I always 374 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:33.200 I've talked him, and I'm always worried, are they profiling me while I'm 375 00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:38.319 talking. Sure, anyone who's a detective, anyone who's who's been in in 376 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.200 the FBI, any of these types of guys. And basically, as I 377 00:27:41.240 --> 00:27:45.599 said, the OSI is the FBI of the air Force. So if you 378 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.160 if your intention is I'm going to get this guy on and grill him, 379 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.240 You're not going to right right right, you know, so you may as 380 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:56.039 well just make him feel comfortable. Um, be real with him, be 381 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.000 true, you know, just be honest with yourself and then if he likes 382 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:03.640 you, he might tell you something. And he gave us way more than 383 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:08.559 what we expected. Super cool. Yeah, So, so, DJ, 384 00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:14.240 I want you to tell the audience how they can follow find the show. 385 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:17.480 Of course, I'll have links and things like this, you know, on 386 00:28:17.519 --> 00:28:21.440 the bottom of this, But how do we find you guys? Okay? 387 00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:26.720 So one of the one of the different things about Bigfoot in UFOs And again 388 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.400 we are we are all three. We are not one nor the other. 389 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.240 Thanks to Nathan, He's the one who introduced me to the Bigfoot world. 390 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:37.319 And now I'm like, I'm several miles deep in it and just love it 391 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.759 and have studied all the folks that that you have in the book and so 392 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:49.160 forth. Um so at calling Beings on Twitter, all one word at calling 393 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.160 Beings is how you would find us. We are not on Facebook. Um 394 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.880 Nathan's the producer of the show. I'm the content. I'm the director of 395 00:28:57.960 --> 00:29:03.839 content, and he's the executive producers. So he doesn't want it on Facebook. 396 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:08.200 So it's not there. But you can find us on YouTube calling All 397 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.559 Beings if you put that in and then click on the live tab. All 398 00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:15.680 the videos are on the live tab, including Tim and Dana the big Foot 399 00:29:15.759 --> 00:29:22.279 influencers. You can also on almost all of your a whole bunch of your 400 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:27.839 podcast platforms, specifically the main ones, Amazon, Google, Spotify, Apple, 401 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.079 all those plus others. We're on there and and so, and all 402 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.119 of your episodes are live correct, I mean all of our episodes are live 403 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.799 every week, and so what day of the week, just so the audience 404 00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.240 knows and what time and so there isn't necessarily a day. We base it 405 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:47.079 on the guests and when the guests can do it. And that opens up 406 00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.559 your opportunities because if I say it's going to be this day and this time, 407 00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:52.240 and that person can't do it at that time while I might miss out. 408 00:29:52.920 --> 00:29:56.920 That's a big challenge. That's why we have We've done a couple live 409 00:29:56.960 --> 00:30:00.640 episodes, but we and we probably should do more, but we made a 410 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.799 decision yes, just for that reason. But I love doing live. It's 411 00:30:03.799 --> 00:30:07.039 just tough to get out everything coordinated at one at the same time of the 412 00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:11.400 week. So well, when we do the holiday episode, like when we 413 00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:12.839 do the summer party, which you guys are going to be on, and 414 00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:18.240 everybody comes on for five or ten minutes at a pop and we have like 415 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.119 twenty five people, you could imagine, I mean that, or even when 416 00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.559 I do a roundtable and I've got, you know, six guests on the 417 00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:32.119 roundtable, aligning those schedules can be you know. And one of the other 418 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:33.920 things I want to mention that we do that I really like is and we 419 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:37.440 kind of did this with you and Dana, I think to a degree, 420 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.720 is the fireside chat. And with that we'll spend about twenty minutes interviewing the 421 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.480 guests or you know, maybe a little more. It might be thirty if 422 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:49.480 if need be, and then we'll start going into everybody who comes on the 423 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:56.240 roundtable brings a topic and you present that topic to the group and it goes 424 00:30:56.279 --> 00:31:00.319 in a circle and everybody gets to give their take on your thought provoking topic. 425 00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:06.079 So instead of getting just question answer, question answer, question answer, 426 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:11.000 you know, we will ask the task them with bringing a topic that they 427 00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.799 want us to uh to to consider and and uh and postulate about. So, 428 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:18.599 yeah, that was a lot of fun. I enjoyed that part of 429 00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.960 it too. Of course I forgot to tell Dana that we were doing that, 430 00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.440 but she rolled with it. She figured it out. She did. 431 00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.440 Man, she's a gamer. Man, she's a gamer. Yeah. Man, 432 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.160 So DJ, my friend, you're amazing. We love the show. 433 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:36.640 I'm just gonna suggest everyone go check check them out. You won't regret it. 434 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:40.279 There are a lot of fun and fascinating people, you know that they 435 00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:41.759 get on the show, and uh, I got to catch up. There's 436 00:31:41.759 --> 00:31:45.039 some episodes I haven't I haven't got to yet, so I'm gonna go back 437 00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.920 and watch some. So we're gonna do is. I'm not even gonna do 438 00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:52.920 Maya. You're gonna be part of I'm gonna outro here for the audience and 439 00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.359 we're just gonna let it roll. And uh, I think one question, 440 00:31:56.599 --> 00:31:59.039 Yeah, I got one question for Dana, though, I want you to 441 00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:05.319 ask her for me from the last episode. Okay, asked Dana, what 442 00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.160 is it about again? Is that first question? What is it about Bigfoot 443 00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:16.240 that has drawn her in? What is it about this creature that intrigues her? 444 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:20.440 Okay, I'll ask you that. Yeah, I think I know the 445 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.160 answer, but I'm gonna ask her because that's a because i know when she 446 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:30.039 started and I know you know, but something about that. Yeah, Okay, 447 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.960 there's something about this so before because what she jumped like one step ahead? 448 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.200 But if at the at and Matt and I spoke about this, and 449 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:45.039 I could ask you the same question, what is it about this creature that 450 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:51.799 so intrigues you that you've wanted to dive into its existence? Are you asking 451 00:32:51.799 --> 00:32:53.640 me now? Are you? Yeah? Yeah? Sure? So you know, 452 00:32:53.960 --> 00:33:00.240 so who's interviewing? Who? Here? Come on? Man? So 453 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.839 I think for me, a she pulled me into the subject. I mean 454 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:07.720 I was never not in subject because I've watched UFO things and I'm not never 455 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.319 been a big ghost person. I mean, you know, I'll kind of 456 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.079 dabble in there, but that's never been my thing. But um so I 457 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:21.319 was kind of in the subject. But I think what I'll say is, 458 00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:27.119 I think because it's something that we feel, we think that's tangible, that 459 00:33:27.160 --> 00:33:30.799 there's actually a living, you know, thing out there in the woods on 460 00:33:30.839 --> 00:33:37.000 our soil that we can go find where if it's a UAP or ufo, 461 00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:40.720 it's it could be anywhere. And and and maybe it's not here, you 462 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.319 know, in this you know, in this earthly realm we're end So I 463 00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:52.119 think that's probably what gets gets me into it is that it's um, it's 464 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.400 here. It could be right here in my backyard, defining things can't. 465 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:02.279 But also there was a reminder of this listening to your network, the Untold 466 00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:07.319 Radio Network, where you can all find big Foot influencers. I was listening 467 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:12.679 to that interview with Sabilla Irwin, and one of her experiences kind of encapsulated 468 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:19.199 a hypothesis I have is that the modicum and the specter, that there is 469 00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:25.199 one level or another of humanity that resides within this creature. That was exemplified 470 00:34:25.239 --> 00:34:30.880 by her saying, it started trudging around my camper. It was picking up 471 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.960 my stuff and putting it down and opening things and maybe slap the side of 472 00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.159 her camper. And she went outside and she said, you know, so 473 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:44.360 she went outside and spoke to the forest, as you know many big footers 474 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.760 have done, and said, you know, this is my home, and 475 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:52.119 you coming and hitting the side of my home. She said, I'm just 476 00:34:52.599 --> 00:34:57.360 here to learn about you, and you coming and hitting the side of my 477 00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.360 home is scaring me. Could you please stop? Said it never happened again 478 00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:06.119 during that four month camp out in the woods. So if you look at 479 00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:10.199 that and the fact of whether people believe this is one nothing more than an 480 00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:15.679 ape, but somehow they know if it can do something like that, there's 481 00:35:15.800 --> 00:35:22.480 got to be some little speck of humanity, how however large or small, 482 00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:25.599 you want to believe that is you believe it. You believe that that's there, 483 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.519 and that's why you're interested. Because if this is just a if this 484 00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.519 is just a codiac bear, doesn't give it damn. If Sibyla comes out 485 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.320 of her yeah, yeah. And and and the big picture, if if 486 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:44.519 these harry hominids, if they are hominids, uh, if they're hominids, 487 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.320 or if they're apes, I mean we're apes. So so if if if 488 00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.639 it's somewhere in between, you know, so there could be a different type, 489 00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:54.519 they could be at a different level. Of a gorilla, you know 490 00:35:54.719 --> 00:36:00.679 a versus you know where we are, you know, so it's interesting. 491 00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.840 Yeah, so hopefully we'll know soon, but that some of the some of 492 00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:08.039 the mystery will be solved, hopefully soon with a lot of different phenomenons with 493 00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:14.000 Bigfoot and you know, and with Bigfoot, even if it's not, that's 494 00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:21.679 okay because a little mystery in life is good and then and the most important 495 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:28.039 thing is that these things are allowed to procreate and survive and thrive to the 496 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:32.039 degree that they're able to um I think is the most important thing for it 497 00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:39.480 because to lose a species like that to any one of the maladies created by 498 00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:45.880 humanity as us that you know, uh, would be would be tragic because 499 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:50.800 they do they are so mysterious. But I'll be interested to hear what Dana 500 00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:54.960 says whenever you ask or just text me. I certainly do that. So 501 00:36:55.079 --> 00:37:01.679 thank you you are and audience. We love you guys too, and make 502 00:37:01.719 --> 00:37:06.159 sure you check out Calling All Beings. You can find it. You can 503 00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:10.599 find it everywhere, so podcast and YouTube and well until the next episode. 504 00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:12.880 We'll chat with you guys soon.