WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.240 Hello what? Such a good afternoon. I' m Karen Ramirez and we 2 00:00:03.359 --> 00:00:06.799 ' re one more radio mission. The design in your ears and we are 3 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:10.199 releasing the new season. We have little, little chapters, but this is 4 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:14.800 already starting very well and I am very happy because we are transmitting from working 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:20.000 capo in this new season that we are in San Luis Potosí one hundred and 6 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:22.960 thirteen in the Colonia Roma, and the truth is that I thank them very 7 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:24.039 much that they are lending us their space. So come and take a little 8 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:28.039 turn at his shorrum so they can meet him. And today I am very 9 00:00:28.480 --> 00:00:33.640 happy because I am with the first guest we had formally on D Radio, 10 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:38.079 that is, when I di Radio almost eight years ago and it was built 11 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:41.280 as such. He was the first guest we had and since then he had 12 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:44.560 not been with us alone, because I have already been with other guests collaborating. 13 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.880 But it was already just and necessary, like remastering the podcast we were 14 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:52.560 saying. A little while ago of other backstages and this is Germán Velasco, 15 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:55.479 how you are Germán very well. Thank you so much for the invitation. 16 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:59.159 Again, thank you so much for seeing me come by myself. Yes, 17 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:04.680 from the first time exactly eight seven years have passed since that time you interviewed 18 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.840 for the first time that time quickly goes away. Hey, yeah, it 19 00:01:08.920 --> 00:01:11.599 was really fast. It' s been a lot of changes. You left 20 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:18.000 you came this already I have you here again how good, but already you 21 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.040 need to tell me who is Germán Velasco now because we already have new listeners, 22 00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:25.959 because they tune in in other countries also then so that they know you 23 00:01:25.959 --> 00:01:30.760 again too and I want to ask who is Germán Velasco, because Germán Velasco 24 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.200 is an architect. First of all, and above all, I have devoted 25 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.480 myself more to the interior design part. I can' t get off the 26 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:42.799 hook, let' s say, that interiorist architect part of design. Not 27 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:48.920 as much as I want then, it' s kind of been a very 28 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:53.280 important part of my career of being Not yesterday we' re talking to some 29 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.959 friends. Not then like in this school, the education you have, like 30 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.519 it' s been a part of you I think that' s in every 31 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:06.280 race. Not then. I' m a person who pays close attention to 32 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.479 design, which I love design. I am passionate precisely about everything that is 33 00:02:08.479 --> 00:02:15.199 design, that is, we are talking about architecture, design, interiors, 34 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:23.719 design, product, experiences, graphic design, art fashion, all those things. 35 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:30.639 I think they' re the ones that encompass Harman No. Then I 36 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:34.960 really like to be traveling too and it' s the things I notice not 37 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.479 and where I get all the experiences and that you learn a lot. Also, 38 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:40.280 of course, I think it' s one of the best schools we 39 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:43.879 have. Yes, of course he does, what a father he hears and 40 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:46.280 how it was that Germón Velasco said one day. I' m going into 41 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:52.000 architecture. Look. My dad is an architect also Mira and also called Quemán 42 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.000 Velasco Mira and at some point, like I said, no, no, 43 00:02:55.000 --> 00:03:00.960 no, no, I' m going to study architecture in the eighties i 44 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:07.240 mean imagine this I said I want to study design this, but rather of 45 00:03:07.280 --> 00:03:10.000 product, not of its industrial design. Okay, and at that time, 46 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:14.120 the truth wasn' t so much in vogue yet. It' s all 47 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:15.960 that kind of stuff. Not now, it' s necessary. We can 48 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:22.879 see that. Not then I thought well, if I study architecture, I 49 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:29.840 ' m studying like this something a lot bigger where they cover all the other 50 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:35.159 specialties and then I can specialize in whatever I want. Then, at the 51 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:42.080 end of the race. In the race I was always told that in architecture 52 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:49.680 and we will see the needs of a client, as that up to 100 53 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.800 %. But I think architecture stays about eighty percent. And I was looking 54 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.319 for several things until I found an interior diploma and then, that' s 55 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:00.400 where, I think, where I found my vocation, especially indoors. Not 56 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.080 that you say, that' s where you close 100% of architecture. 57 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:09.520 But I liked having studied architecture because you have a broader vision than if you 58 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:15.439 did not study the interior career. And then, with that vision, with 59 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:19.720 that part that reaches eighty percent and then with interiors that already reaches one hundred 60 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:27.759 percent, because you already have rounded up absolutely all this experience that you will 61 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:30.800 give to this person who will inhabit or who will live a space, that 62 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:32.240 will have an experience at best, in a restaurant, in a hotel, 63 00:04:32.279 --> 00:04:38.720 in a store, in his house. No yes, he remembers, then, 64 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:43.319 because that' s what took me and I think I' m lucky, 65 00:04:43.759 --> 00:04:47.480 not because many people don' t find many times, because they' 66 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.959 re very short ages that this one we face to see that it' s 67 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:55.319 going to be the rest of our lives. And I think I feel lucky 68 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.040 to have kind of found the way. Not now that father, and if 69 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:04.759 the truth is something that I am passionate and alive of this, that is, 70 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:10.519 it nourishes my soul and heart, not being able to work in architecture 71 00:05:10.600 --> 00:05:14.600 and interior design. Wow, I, father, listen and how it was 72 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:17.959 that already, when you passed the college stage and already, I mean, 73 00:05:18.040 --> 00:05:21.079 you already broke the bubble and you cooled down to reality, how were the 74 00:05:21.079 --> 00:05:26.639 beginnings of German Velasco. I started working with my dad Ok and I think 75 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:30.759 a very important part is that I was working on a work between dregal that 76 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:36.279 was two thousand square meters and it was a house room look and the client 77 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:44.399 was very, very, very pik So he had or had, I don 78 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:46.160 ' t know, a printing press, but a printing press of those. 79 00:05:46.240 --> 00:05:51.000 As you know, I printed the bags of sabritas and blah blah blah Blabla 80 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:57.240 once touched me to visit her. Then he, the simple view, saw 81 00:05:57.319 --> 00:06:03.839 how the machine was printing and there was a part that almost frozen the image 82 00:06:03.879 --> 00:06:12.040 and of them it was printing. Good. Okay. So that also led 83 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:16.519 me to be this because very fixed in detail, because here the maximum error. 84 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:21.600 It was two millimeters and he saw it literally, so they said that 85 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:24.800 it' s snorting and Ton said no. I mean, how' s 86 00:06:24.800 --> 00:06:27.160 pimp, he' s not chocho. Maybe they were a millimeter, no. 87 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:33.680 And in addition, they had in that house a stoneware workshop and a 88 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:39.720 carpentry workshop. Then what I designed I could see directly with the artisans. 89 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:43.959 Sure, that was a very important thing. So I' ve been working 90 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:46.759 with my dad for several years. One day I went to live in Queretaro 91 00:06:46.800 --> 00:06:50.839 the years ah Mira, because work went out there. But then I saw, 92 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:55.240 I came to Mexico City and I saw that other things were being done 93 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:01.240 and I said no. And I need to go back to Mexico because I 94 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:02.759 want to do other kinds of things. And I told my dad. And 95 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:08.120 my dad, well, when you find a job, and two weeks later 96 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:11.759 I found a job in a construction firm. Then I started with several builders 97 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:14.560 and then it was from and why I' ve been a consultant. Obviously, 98 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.040 I had devoted more to seeing all that detail of construction, which was 99 00:07:18.079 --> 00:07:23.959 also very important. And finally, after the years and so on, I 100 00:07:23.959 --> 00:07:30.399 came to a place where I was allowed to start doing, that is, 101 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:33.759 not to be the long story. Let' s not say the Bahia group 102 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:38.560 with the architect Gilberto Borjas, and there I was asked to be in charge 103 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:43.079 of the Mandarin Oriental, of the Ribera MagiaÁndale, and that was Italy, 104 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:47.040 that is why also the salon on the mobile is so important to me 105 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:51.959 because there I met several designers, Paula Lenti, et cetera, et cetera, 106 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:55.639 et cetera. Don' t vegan them to Blasco. Then it was 107 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:59.319 very important, because all that kind of furniture was put in the East Mandarin. 108 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:07.000 And that' s where I said I fell in love with this hotel 109 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:13.639 and interior, I didn' t mean I said yes, it' s 110 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.079 my vocation then I got out of there and I got back to a builder. 111 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.240 Then I don' t know what you' re saying good. I 112 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.720 was in that contutu out two years doing things that I didn' t really 113 00:08:24.800 --> 00:08:26.639 do wrong, but I wasn' t happy doing. It didn' t 114 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:31.920 fill you, it didn' t fill me. And finally there is a 115 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:39.320 moment where Jorge and I form red Moorish. From then on we started with 116 00:08:39.360 --> 00:08:45.840 some houses on the capes and then they asked us to make a restaurant in 117 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:52.240 Santa Fe and from there they asked us for the brick and then it was 118 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.639 already making TVs, making restaurants and so on. I was on the red 119 00:08:54.759 --> 00:09:01.200 wall for about five years and then I was given the opportunity to oppose my 120 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:05.639 office and I started with two houses too. It was the remodeling of two 121 00:09:05.639 --> 00:09:13.440 houses. This hotel, or we had done it before, also gave apartments. 122 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.360 And so and today, for example, I' m still with the 123 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.840 interior part. I' ve been humming and right now, they' re 124 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:28.879 asking me. They' ve all been done. But obviously, when they 125 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:33.120 ' re big companies, they often ask you to send them the Bible and 126 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:39.679 sometimes they don' t ask you to supervise them and then they come in, 127 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:43.039 they furnish it and then they tell you. Hey, we need you 128 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:46.399 to help us punch him because he' s missing accessories and so on. 129 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:52.879 Then I go to those same coils. I' m gonna do in every 130 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:58.279 building like seven apartments. It' s 35 apartments to give them potch ok. 131 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:01.879 Well, well, at least they didn' t realize it was needed 132 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:07.759 like improving it moral salt and aside you throwing it out were things. You 133 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:11.279 ' re a real expert. Yeah, well, that' s what we 134 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.000 ' re talking about. A while ago. I love it too, no 135 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.840 yeah yeah yeah, I' m making three roksy now three rox. Yeah, 136 00:10:16.960 --> 00:10:20.399 we' re still on roxies with rock. What a father, I 137 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.519 thought there was already how they were bar No. No, no, no, 138 00:10:24.960 --> 00:10:28.919 how nice this is in Lastlan now ah ok, the new park, 139 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:33.879 the new park is going to be two this ras and another one is going 140 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.120 to be in the park of Chapultepec. You don' t have to learn 141 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:41.000 them because they' re gonna be amazing. Wa. The new modality, 142 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:43.200 for example, is that in Lastlan there will be no furniture, no real 143 00:10:43.200 --> 00:10:48.039 estate, that is, no, there is only ok shop and it is 144 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:52.519 modernizing a part at best, like law out and certain forms, but it 145 00:10:52.559 --> 00:10:56.639 will follow you, you will continue to watch rocksy ah ok, then it 146 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.399 is very, very, very interesting. I' m very happy and I 147 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:01.840 ' m going to score it with them. You' re also going to 148 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:07.799 make an apartment that you' re going to rent, that' s going 149 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:16.080 to go bigger roxy house and look at it a little bit with the concept 150 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.000 also as mit century aha This one that I' m good at, you 151 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:20.200 ' re quite good at. Then I' m very happy. I' 152 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:26.320 m making some offices, too, and I' m making other departments that 153 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:28.840 I' m being asked to do. Oh, then, there we go 154 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:33.919 with those things. Very happy, like trying to go I' ve reinvented 155 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:37.879 myself. I have some projects that have not been published that in your ho 156 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:45.000 soon you will see it ah without restaurant in the East Rome, the department 157 00:11:45.519 --> 00:11:50.279 of Guadalajara Este and a bar in exacritobal of the houses that have not been 158 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:54.759 taken from those photos. Like, because across are the egg pandemic several things. 159 00:11:56.639 --> 00:12:01.600 So now I have to make it look like the order again. Order 160 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.159 again that they can be published clearly Listen, yes, because your work is 161 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.120 worth a lot. And I, the truth is that I never miss it 162 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:11.159 when they publish it, because I always learn a lot from you and I 163 00:12:11.240 --> 00:12:15.919 think that you have always been a designer, an architect very very authentic and 164 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:18.240 always, that is, like what they asked you to do is put things 165 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:20.320 on. You do know, I mean. Is it like you? What 166 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:22.679 about you? What about you? It' s your thing, hey, 167 00:12:22.919 --> 00:12:26.440 but it' s good that you' re still with ROX and for those 168 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:30.320 of you who don' t know it' s ROXY it' s the 169 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:30.320 ice cream shops, this ice cream store that' s been here for so 170 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.159 many years. Well, the first little girl was on the countess, which 171 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.000 is still in force. And well, she' s already taken out branches 172 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:39.879 and here' s my candle German, for for about seven, six years 173 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.200 or so, you' ve made branches for them. True. I' 174 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:46.200 m really glad about it, and especially in the new asplan park, it 175 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:52.240 ' s exactly the novelty of the city. Hey what, Father, that 176 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:56.519 ' s good, I' m really glad, funny, hey how it 177 00:12:56.519 --> 00:13:00.279 was to face you,' cause it' s been a while since you 178 00:13:00.279 --> 00:13:03.360 came back from Guadalajara. How was that change from Mexico City to Guadalajara Mira, 179 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.879 I think it was during the pandemic. So I think that change was 180 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:16.720 very good, okay, especially in my case, that, well, we 181 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.799 didn' t know what we' re dealing with at some point and then 182 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:26.399 it was like Mexico City never stopped then there were always people everywhere and I 183 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:31.399 lived in the street of Colima, where there are more people. Yeah, 184 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:33.799 well, for me, because I didn' t even want to get out 185 00:13:33.799 --> 00:13:37.879 unclearly sometimes. So, it was a good experience, in a rat experience, 186 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.159 to be in Guadalajara. But I think it was made in Guadalajara a 187 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:48.200 little jealous of these people, especially that it comes from outside or what, 188 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:54.159 like what they think we are going to displace them, because to displace them, 189 00:13:54.279 --> 00:14:00.000 or not so much to displace, but they think we are going to. 190 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.919 He' s turned something like that. So this one even though I 191 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:09.600 said that I was going to put my little sand ganito, that I wasn 192 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.720 ' t trying like this one, to go and instruct them. No, 193 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.919 then, because it' s like if you' re a good match, 194 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:24.200 if you' re this one from Mexico City, that I fly to meet 195 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:28.879 you, but it' s there then, because there actually came a time 196 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:33.000 when I came to work in Mexico City. Then I stayed. It was 197 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:35.039 like that. No, I can' t leave next week, because I 198 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.919 have to see clians. Not even next week. Not next week, not 199 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:41.519 next week, not next week. Then it was like that. And I 200 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:46.039 ' ve been here for ten months in Mexico City. And so the truth, 201 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.879 because I say I' m from here, then it' s not 202 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:52.039 like I' m something that' s different. Not maybe that I miss 203 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:56.200 from there. If I' m in the American colony, there' s 204 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.440 the apartment I' m talking to you about. The truth. If I 205 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:05.559 had three in the department, just like that, I' d be amazing 206 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:07.480 if it was for the best. This one. If the quality of life 207 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:13.519 is very different, the food is cheaper. Oh, yeah, oh look, 208 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.320 but, well, there are things that are cheap and things that aren 209 00:15:18.399 --> 00:15:20.559 ' t cheaper. Okay, okay. But this, for example, maintenance 210 00:15:20.600 --> 00:15:26.840 is more expensive up there than depending on the buildings. But well, there 211 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:31.039 are always pros and cons. Not sure, I' m very happy to 212 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.159 have returned the truth how well yours, it was Mexico City. Yeah, 213 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:37.960 but I' m really glad you' re back here, because suddenly it 214 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.440 was like I wanted to interview you, it' s just that I don 215 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:45.320 ' t live here exactly how or what not something is here, but it 216 00:15:45.639 --> 00:15:46.519 ' s amazing that you' re back and ten months. I mean, 217 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.039 it' s not that little anymore. It' s not amazing, either, 218 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.879 that well, it' s already more of a grown- up baby 219 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:54.879 who' s already a month old, a one- month- old baby. 220 00:15:54.960 --> 00:15:58.799 Says you hear that father, I' m so glad to have you 221 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:02.559 back here. And the truth is, there' s something that intrigues me 222 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:03.799 a lot and I' d like to know that I also knew the audience. 223 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.559 It' s your design process, how' s your design process, 224 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:14.559 how you link it to get to the final project, because yours is unique. 225 00:16:14.799 --> 00:16:18.759 Then yes, I' m quite intrigued. So, when a project 226 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:23.080 comes to you, you know the client. I think the most important thing 227 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:29.720 isn' t to know what the needs are that you have what it' 228 00:16:29.720 --> 00:16:33.679 s about, what it' s going to be, a hotel, a 229 00:16:33.679 --> 00:16:37.080 residence, an office, whatever. So I think that first of the most 230 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:41.399 important things is that the immediate context is not the same as San Miguel de 231 00:16:41.440 --> 00:16:45.120 Allende, who is in San Cristofá de las Casas, in Guadalajara or in 232 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:51.039 Mexico City. Not to say, not to say more clearly, then I 233 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:55.639 think that each of these occasions or the location where the project is to be 234 00:16:55.679 --> 00:17:00.840 located, is very different. Then you have to try the environment, the 235 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:07.319 knowledge of this, because what it' s going to talk about, because 236 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:11.359 I think it' s not fair that you come up with things like that 237 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.440 suddenly you see that an UFO landed, that they stop not that I say 238 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:18.759 it like I land an UFO is already different from everything else, but that 239 00:17:18.880 --> 00:17:22.400 it has to dialogue with itself as it breaks the one. Everything else. 240 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:27.160 No. Now, obviously, that I do not characterize myself by this being 241 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:33.839 the one who most pampers himself with everything else. No, but I think 242 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:41.000 inside the place, there has to be the wol factor in each of the 243 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.119 spaces. Many would say like that intagrameable space, but I think I' 244 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:48.480 d like to say more like that surprise spaces. There doesn' t have 245 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:52.599 to be surprises in every place. Memorable and it has to be more memorable. 246 00:17:52.720 --> 00:18:00.440 Kingstag grammeable well said, because that makes you catch people and make them 247 00:18:00.480 --> 00:18:02.880 want to go or, at least, if you don' t come back, 248 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.359 remembers and recommends it to someone clearer. I think those are the most 249 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:11.720 important parts. Not because I have a tour that you remember certain things, 250 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:18.680 the one that you say where I saw I don' t know the swing 251 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:25.559 hanging in the lobby, where I saw the ostrich ostrich where, then, 252 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.880 they are things that you don' t forget. Of course, for example, 253 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:33.359 I don' t forget the time truz they say House that pacifice participated 254 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:37.640 and you don' t know how. How was this, how scary they 255 00:18:37.720 --> 00:18:42.599 were at disign House for real. Oh, how they got away with certain 256 00:18:42.640 --> 00:18:45.799 things until you say good. You say good. The lady from the Lomas 257 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:49.119 isn' t going to like that many times they' re supposed to say 258 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.519 " huse" was a little bit more than for the lady to like. 259 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:57.920 I saw the ladies of the Lomas drawing a smile on their faces. Then 260 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.559 you say good, at least what that doesn' t. That' s 261 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:06.559 also a result. That' s exactly what it' s gonna be like 262 00:19:06.559 --> 00:19:07.039 to remember from the space he made me. Smile Yes, sure, because 263 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.640 that too is a result and the best will not call you, but you 264 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.599 caused a reaction in them. That too, that' s part of the 265 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.000 design. It causes reactions and I think you do it very well, because, 266 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.640 that is, your style, your way of running your projects, of 267 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:25.759 taking them to the end. If it' s very unique, so it 268 00:19:25.759 --> 00:19:29.400 says, I know it' s yours, so it carries your signature 100 269 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:34.480 percent and in that design process with your team you do something as very very 270 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.079 important, as, for example, or alvaro if it is, for example, 271 00:19:37.319 --> 00:19:40.759 you have before you start a project, always listen to the bugles. 272 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.839 I don' t know what you do before or during. I listen rather 273 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.680 to my aquil, very well, I think I am not one of those 274 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:52.880 who impongo, that is yes yes, I think it is important to talk 275 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:59.440 about them between everything irdar a direction because, obviously, there are many ideas, 276 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:00.960 of course, but I think those ideas are very important. That' 277 00:20:02.079 --> 00:20:07.680 s why my team has been with me long enough and then we' ve 278 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:14.079 met and I think as valid is my idea as anyone else' s is 279 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:17.880 not father. Then I think you do have to mark the road, because 280 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:21.160 you' re the one who' s making a face with the client. 281 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:23.240 Or there are times when you say hijole, because care is better than the 282 00:20:23.279 --> 00:20:26.359 one I gave is very, very valid. And it' s a good 283 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:34.640 thing we' re going over there now and this one, and then the 284 00:20:34.759 --> 00:20:37.079 client' s already marking where he wants to go. Also no, because 285 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.240 I think it is important that you surprise the customer and give several options, 286 00:20:41.440 --> 00:20:45.839 because we give as several options or within the same idea, that is, 287 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:52.079 look at this concept we saw this path or this path we like more this 288 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.000 by itself or as you see it, then maybe they will tell you, 289 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:57.759 no, because the one you are thinking is okay. Or say, son, 290 00:20:57.880 --> 00:21:02.440 look, I think he that I looked for that address, so, 291 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.319 well, you try to go through the other address, first, try to 292 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:08.039 convince the client to be the other. But if not good, then you 293 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:12.240 have that option, b or w option, and then you' re already 294 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:15.359 looking at how to put the punch. No, of course, of course, 295 00:21:15.799 --> 00:21:18.279 of course, to put it, that is, as your main characteristic. 296 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:19.079 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, 297 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.039 no, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, there 298 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.160 ' s Father. That' s good. I' m glad you' 299 00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:26.480 re aware of your team' s voice, because it' s very important 300 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.640 to also give them a voice, because there are times when they also take 301 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:33.200 the hard work, not the same. With you it' s really lame, 302 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.200 that well, I' m glad to hear what we are five architects 303 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:41.960 that you admire the most. Inside them is Heather Wick, Thomas hethry Wick. 304 00:21:41.319 --> 00:21:48.559 All right, I get a genius wow. The exact truth. It 305 00:21:48.640 --> 00:21:52.799 ' s okay that' s inside them, too, someone who takes risks 306 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.920 like you. Well, he' s risking, well, everything he' 307 00:21:55.920 --> 00:21:56.799 s already got there. It' s or it' s not the same. 308 00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:00.400 We agree. Or s but then yes, that is, yes, 309 00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:04.240 he raided many things and entered very well the office that gives you it is 310 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:10.039 in force, but because it is not the same to have it there in 311 00:22:10.039 --> 00:22:12.480 the representative. No, but he was someone like you, he broke a 312 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:17.440 lot of things. Well, sociano pot networks that also risk it. Oh, 313 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:25.440 yeah, and this who I think for ragan is also someone who risked 314 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:29.880 at his time, not that, he broke many rules, also especially in 315 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:33.799 the time when he was, especially that he is very, very different the 316 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:37.319 architecture he has in Guadalajara, which is the one that says here in Mexico 317 00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:44.839 City, totally incredible. That' s good And now, to finish this 318 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:47.319 talk, the truth is, I' m really rich. It always makes 319 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.839 me very rich to talk with you and to me with you there are many 320 00:22:49.839 --> 00:22:55.799 thanks. Thank you very much. What would you say to the new generations, 321 00:22:56.599 --> 00:22:59.680 not of students, because I already asked you that, but the new 322 00:22:59.680 --> 00:23:02.480 generations of archy that are about to take the step, as well as you 323 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:08.279 to make your own office. What would you say to them, because I 324 00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:14.119 will tell them something that was not foreign to me, but that I experienced 325 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:21.200 it and that I think very important. When you' re already about to 326 00:23:21.240 --> 00:23:29.200 step in, many times it' s done in a vacuum, then it 327 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:37.000 ' s pour in, shut up in the water and nothing, because you 328 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:37.720 don' t have to order anything, and then it' s experimenting. 329 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:48.960 Be different, be authentic, be you and many times you have to hear 330 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:52.119 your inner voice, when you know that your inner voice is at peace, 331 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:59.640 at peace, you go on a right path, because many times, because 332 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:06.240 people, maybe they are expecting things they already know, but you will be 333 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:11.000 surprised when you see that what you are proposing, that is different, also 334 00:24:11.079 --> 00:24:14.880 has validity, then I think that is the most important thing. And then 335 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:22.680 if you want to learn, well besides google things of trip that always look 336 00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:27.759 at all the things of architecture, of design, of food and all that 337 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:33.119 are the most inspiring things. I mean, new ways of seeing life. 338 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:40.839 And then all that feeds you, makes you grow and you' re going 339 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:47.839 to be able to get a better result when you face certain opportunities at the 340 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:52.279 best you saw a project that looks like this or, that has certain characteristics, 341 00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:56.759 also tropicalize it so that it' s not the Opnic, as we 342 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.759 said it would. Well, that' s wow. Well, thank you 343 00:25:00.839 --> 00:25:03.839 so much for being with us again, for not spending seven years again so 344 00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:07.079 that you' re here again on the radio, please, so that we 345 00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:11.839 continue to follow your work, because you still have a lot to teach us 346 00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.359 and, above all, also to publish, because to talk about those publications. 347 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:18.480 It is also important about your projects that are already consolidated. They' 348 00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.039 re amazing always learning with you. Really. Thank you so much for being 349 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:25.240 here. Another thanks to YOU for the invitation really thank you very much. 350 00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:26.799 It won' t be that long before we can see each other. No, 351 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:30.079 please. I mean, if we' ve seen each other in these 352 00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:33.839 seven years, obviously, obviously, if we' ve seen each other but 353 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:36.400 you haven' t been here, we' ve sat down and talked. 354 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:40.119 Yeah, by the way, we' ve still got some on the slope 355 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.920 for seven years. Try to reform it. Yeah, that' s fair 356 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.880 and necessary, but it' s nice to have you here. Really. 357 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:48.640 Thank you so much and so good. I remind you to the audience that 358 00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:53.640 you can listen on the radio podcasts, in Spotify, Amazon podcast Google Podcasts, 359 00:25:53.960 --> 00:25:59.359 all the music streaming can find us there, so there' s no 360 00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:03.400 such thing as that you miss us and they don' t find us there, 361 00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.160 they find us like irradiation, so don' t miss them in this 362 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.680 new season, that we' re here in capo laboro, in San Luis, 363 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.319 potosí one hundred and thirteen, here in Colonia Roma, so give also 364 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:14.599 a little tour and we' ll be here in this new season of d 365 00:26:14.599 --> 00:26:18.519 Radio. Thank you so much. Thank you, German Thank you very much, 366 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.559 thank you all. Say hi. Perfect hearing. Baby' s gonna be