Sorry, Matt, You're not our Jesus. We don't answer to you,
like, live your life the way you want to live it, and stuff
judging everybody who makes a different choice. I'm sick of it. The Obamas
are out there polling top Democrats on what their appetite is for it, so
you know they're Dictie's got to be huge, but it's going to be very
hard to make Grandpa leave the pudd Welcome to another deep dive edition of The
Chicks on the Right podcast. Man, are we ever excited about our guests?
Today? We have Megan Kelly with us, who have a course is
a journalist the host of The Megan Kelly Show, which is available on Serious
XEM Triumph Channel one eleven every weekday at noon Eastern and also can be found
at YouTube dot com, slash Meghan Kelly or just wherever you get your podcasts.
But honestly, you barely need introduction because I think most everybody knows who
you are. They've been following your career for a long time. So we
thought we would kick it off by asking if you could tell us something about
you that most people don't know. I mean, I'm an aspiring guitar player.
I have a guitar John Rich actually gave me about fifteen years ago,
and it actually has my name and mother of pearl along the neck of it,
and on the case it reads practice, which was his only message to
me. And I have failed to do it because fifteen years later I am
just as bad as I was all those years ago when he gave it to
me. That's fantastic. So did you play any other instruments? I was
a mean clarinet player. I was first chair. I'll have you know,
first chare. Yeah, that is going and there's probably probably not a little
not a lot of people knew that. So that was a good one for
a reason. That was very very good. Disclose it. Yeah, I
didn't see that coming at all. Okay, So I don't know if you've
tried it, but I have tried the new Jen ninety from Jenny Saw,
which is completely awesome for getting rid of wrinkles, like immediately, like you
put immediately. I put it on my I put it on my forehead,
which I know a lot of people put it under their eyes and crows feet
laugh lines audio. You can put it in different places, right, but
I put it on my forehead because I have major lines on my forehead.
I like potholes on my forehead. That's I do. So that's where I
put it. And you can do this. This is like a perfect Valentine's
gift for your for yourself. You can get yourself a Valentine's gift, which
I think you should do, or you can get it for your Valentine if
you want to do it for your Valentine. But this stuff works. It's
fantastic. I mean it's from genisoff. Of course it's going to work,
right, It's luxurious, it's nourishing, and it works. I mean it's
fantastic. It like Tingles, and it's hyped off like they say, it's
like generations ahead of other skincare products. Yeah, I mean, it's kind
of amazing, and it is part of the most popular package which is over
seventy percent off right now when you go to genucell dot com slash chicks that's
ge and you Cel dot com slash Chicks, and you also get free shipping
and a Valentine's Spabucks with your order right now. Ooh, then youseell dot
com slash slash sh so yeah, so on the musical vein. Since we're
talking about music, we could probably talk about Taylor Swift and all the as
Mock would say, hullabaloo that's surrounding her. So what do you make of
all the right wing conspiracy stuff that's floating around right now about her and Travis
and the syop I mean all the syops's steady. I mean, like there
are certain corners of the right that have lost their minds on the conspiracy stuff,
and I'd love for them just come back in the fold, Like,
just please. We can't afford to lose anybody. We don't have enough numbers
to begin with. There's more Democrats and there are Republicans, and half the
Republicans have now become independent. So like, we can't lose the right flank
to weird conspiratorial thinking about Taylor Swift. So come home, come back,
come back, like they've been un tethered. There's no plan between the NFL
and the Refs and the Chiefs and the forty nine and Taylor and Travis and
Joe Biden to give him the election. It's so funny, but people really
do believe this, and they're convinced that those I mean, there's like number
theories and the people that are convinced of it are surprising me. Like seeing
the Veke like pick this up and some of the more popular conservative influencers that
are just determined to make this a thing is just blowing out in my mind.
I think there's some cynicism there. I think some people who are pushing
it just want clicks. I mean, on Twitter now on x you get
money for the more engagement you get, So it's fine to say outrageous things
because the whole name of the game is getting clicks and getting likes and getting
it retweeted. So that's I mean, there are some cynical people doing that.
Vivic I wasn't that surprised. He's conspiratorial. I like Vike, but
he's definitely gone conspiratorial since he threw his hat in the national politics. So
like, if you're going to suggest nine to eleven was an inside job,
this is right up your alley. You know. It's like, if you
believe in pizzagate, which is a very big thing in the Q community,
you easily buy this. I get it. I'm not with you at all,
but I understand it's all the same cast of characters. I will say,
look, like any of these great conspiracy theories, there are some nuggets
that make sense. Like we were watching the game last week when the Chiefs
won, and my husband, who's as far away from a conspiracy theorist as
you can get, was like, these reps are totally putting a thumb on
the scale for Kansas City. They want the NFL wants Kansas City to go
to the super Bowl because money, because of dollars, right, because the
tailor like going. And you saw the numbers like she boosted the final viewership
of that playoff game three hundred and thirty million. Yea, that makes perfect
sense to me that, like the NFL would really be wishing for this to
happen. But connection to the just stop. She's going to endorse Joe Biden.
She's going to vote Democrat. She's going to tell all of her little
followers to get registered and to vote Democrat. Maybe they'll get registered like thirty
five thousand did after that concert where she said it, and then they're probably
not going to vote. I've been doing this long enough to know how this
comes. They don't vote. Young people don't vote. I love that optimism,
yeah, because I mean that that that poll that came up. What
was it like a red Field and Wilton Strategies poll or something. I don't
even know, but I look at that and I think, Okay, eighteen
percent of eligible voters are going to vote or at least be skewed by who
she votes, don't. I don't really buy that either, because I have
young people in my life who are of that age that can vote and that
like her, but don't give a crap who she votes for. So I'm
not buying it. Guys. It's been around long enough to see all these
election cycles. Every celebrity is a Democrat, Like who do the Republicans have?
You know, there's John Voyd, Kid Rock Like, Okay, I
like those guys, but like the Republicans have always been up against this.
They don't win elections based on celebrity endorsements, or they would never have won
ever. So I just I'm not worried about this. And who cares.
Like Taylor Swift, She's fine. It's a little much for me too,
like seeing her at the in the booth every game, It's like enough,
I've had enough. But you know, we go through cycles with these celebrities.
She'll come back down that she'll go back, like people need to relax,
You think, Okay, I don't know, man, she's been I
mean she is. Her star is way up there right now. And of
course I just look at them like it's a fun love story. And you
know, the people that actually think this is a made up, fake relationship,
I'm just like, what, isn't it just possible that the simplest explanation
is the truth that they just genuinely are in love and it's a new,
happy couple. And maybe she'll write a breakup song about him at some point,
but right now everything seems okay. So that I don't know. I
have no idea what the basis of that relationship is. But I do know
for sure Hollywood couples get together for PR. I mean I know that just
from having been connected to that entry for a long time. Some of them
do get together just to get on magazines and get good PR. I don't
have any reason to believe that's what's happening here. But look, if I
had to put money on it, I would say he's in more danger than
she is of getting dumped, and she's going to write a song about it,
and it's probably not going to wind up happily ever after for those two.
Not a good track record there. I totally agree with that. She's
such an I'm so hopeful you are. God, she loves Valentine's Day so
much. Really, you're the one. My gosh, I couldn't care less
about Valentine's Day. Cash On Valentine's Day, I wear all black. Yes,
yeah, we don't do in my marriage. We don't do Valentine's Day.
Like. There's nothing I'm not expecting, nor do I want. You
know that we may have some Valentine's Day action, Yes, still recognizing it.
Then you're still recognizing it as Valentine's Day, actually, and that's a
perfect way to celebrate. I think, all right, well enough, Taylor,
because I know for a lot of people are just sick to death of
hearing about her. So we'll move on. And not that anybody is more
interested in talking about eg and Carroll, but she's obviously another huge story that's
taking hold of everybody right now because of this ginormous judgment that Trump has had
to pay her eighty three point three plus million dollars as a result of the
defamation case. So in your legal opinion, because we've heard lots of varying
opinions about this. Does he have a prayer for on appeal or is he
Is he really going to be on the hook for that money. He has
a small prayer, but it's not a great one. I'm not feeling great
about it, you know. I think his best line of argument is that
he should have been allowed to take the stand and deny the charges, like
speak robustly to the principal underlying charges and why he said the thing that they
now are supposed to be punishing him for denying in a way that they said
was defamatory. This judgement did not allow him to get back into whether or
not he sexually assaulted her. He's like, well, we already decided that
at the other trial, and now you're stuck with it. But any McCarthy,
who I love, He writes for National Review of Brilliant Lawyer. He
made a great point. I totally agree with it. When you take away
the ability of the jury to like have the fulfillment of saying you did the
bad thing, we're finding you liable for doing the terrible thing and just say
to them give us a dollar amount. You're going to get inflated judgments because
they didn't express any of their anger, any of the resentment they've built up
against this defendant during the trial. With a verdict on liability, it's kind
of all been held for the dollar amount phase. This wasn't even the same
jury as before. So it's like you handicapped him right from the get go
in getting a reasonable punitive damages award. I will say this ROBERTA. Kaplin,
who I really can't stand. But she's a good lawyer, she says,
and I believe her as an officer of the court. There's representation that
it's generally an assessing punitive damages in this court. It's is it like more
than six to one? And this is not six more than six to one.
It's right on the right on the cusp of being too high to be
upheld. But you know how it is like the appellate courts aren't going to
be any more sympathetic to Trump than these lower courts were. So he's got
a chance, but it's not a good one. So was that out of
the norm in terms of process then, because that's what I was confused about,
because I kept hearing well he was he was denied this opportunity to get
on the stand and talk about, you know, the fact that he believes
genuinely that she's a liar and so, and he wanted to argue that.
But then I heard too that, well that's already been decided and this is
only about the dollar amount. So is that not normal? Is that not
how a trial like this is supposed to go? And that's why there's a
bonus contention. Yes, I think this judge took a risk in shutting down
the discussion entirely. I think a defendant has a right to get up there
and say because look at punitive damages are meant to stop him from ever saying
the things again. Like the lawyer argued in her closing, ROBERTA. Kaplin,
you've got to make him feel it. He's a rich man, so
it's got to be a huge dollar amount, so he will never say these
things about her again. You know, she's a cook, she made it
up, she's a lunatic. Whatever. So why can't I mean, if
you're a judge, she just doesn't want to get reversed. Why wouldn't you
bend over backwards to be fair to the defendant? What harm is caused by
him looking at the jury and saying, I'll say it to you right here.
There's the reason I said those things that that other jury said were defamatory
or said amounted to sexual abuse, and word defamatory is because I genuinely have
never seen this person again. She must be a kuk to be suing me
for this stuff. I recognize another jury by fifty one percent to forty nine
percent that was the legal standard, and that earlier civil case didn't believe me.
But I'm telling you that is the reason I said what I said.
I think it could have softened them. And they tied his hands behind his
back to say, you basically can't fight this case. They took away all
of his weapons. So I do think he had an uphill battle to start
with, and he didn't make it any better for himself and not testifying in
the underlying trial on his liability and then he had double justices like against him,
and that's how we want up here. But she's not making it any
better on herself either. I mean, you look at her, my goodness,
like going on Rachel Madda being like we're gonna go shopping, ladies,
and all the I mean, just the stuff that she said, like to
Anderson because she named her and hat tits. I thought her cat was named
Vagina. There's another one, Yeah, maybe a cat. Maybe the cat
is it pussy or vagina? I vagina? That makes sense? That is
that is abuse, That is like cat abuse. I mean, very very
hyper focused on sex. I was completely unaware that she had a cat,
naw Tits. I was until I was today years old when I learned that
from Megan Kelly might have been a dog. I can't remember, but one
of the two for sure. She bragged about it. We played a clip
she bragged about it. She's a very strange person. And you know,
you look at her and her celebratory like, yeah, I'm gonna buy you
France Rachel Maddow, does this look like a rape survivor? We finally got
justice right? And this is the thing, I mean, it's we I'm
sure we all know people who have been raped and that. So I look
at her, and I look at what was awarded to her and how she's
acting, and and it just and it makes it's disgusting. It makes me
know what else when they argue for the punitive damages, that's the big that's
the big piece of this award. They said, she needs the money because
she's got to go out there in conservative media and rebuild her reputation that Trump
destroyed by saying all the US God, how many how many conservative shows did
she call you, gels and say, can I come on me? I
can assure you should get on with Stephanopolis. We would have talked about her
cat exact, Rachel Maddow, it was a lie. It was a lie.
Right, she lied to that jury through her lawyer. The jury bought
it, hook line and sinker, or just wanted to punish Trump more than
likely, and the media won't hold her to account. What do you make
of his uh? His? I guess his lead counsel in that case,
Alena Habbat, because she gets a lot of she gets mixed reviews, and
I'm just wondering how you view her legal prowess. I mean, is she
serving him well or is there more that she should have done or could do.
I haven't been following it that closely, but I'll be honest, I
haven't been impressed. Have not. No, Yeah, that's the truth.
And there's some clip about her where they were asked would you rather be pretty
or smart? And she said pretty like all right, you should have said
smart, because you aren't that smart if you would winning. Yes, she's
her record. I mean she's not winning. She's finding it dumped soon because
Trump dumps the ones who don't win for him, like that one precinct commander
in Iowa, the one county that he lost. You know, he won
ninety eight of the ninety nine counties and he fired the one who he lost
by one vote. And that person got fired is no longer needed, and
you know we have a general election to go, but that person. Look,
I don't blame him. I would fire somebody who lost for me twice
too. I haven't been impressed by her, in fairness, I haven't been
watching her that closely, okay, I mean eighty three million dollars, I'd
probably fire the person too. So in April, there's going to be an
eclipse. I can't remember the exact date, but it's happening in April,
and we're having like our very first real like kind of airbnb us in the
cabin that are going to stay in the cabin for the eclipse and just have
all that just for the eclipse. Like they're coming from a whole other state
just for the eclipse, Like I guess it's a big deal, right,
and so I'm very excited because they're going to be able to have all of
like all my pillow stuff. That's our entire cabin is decked out with all
my pillow stuff. We have like the my pillow sheets, we have my
pillow pillows, we have my pillow pillow cases, we have my pillow what
do you call the mattress topper, we have that in the are We have
everything my pillow in the cabin. So super excited for them to try everything.
And now you can get like major savings because they have enormous blowout sale
going on right now, huge blow sale, It's huge. They have fifty
percent off my pillow two point zero, which are awesome because they're temperature regulating.
They have fifty percent off of the flannel sheets, which I all,
I love the flannel sheets, you guys, They're fantastic. I'm all about
flannel sheets, not regular sheets, even though the regular sheets are also awesome.
And then you can get free shipping on the larger items like mattresses,
mattress toppers, which are completely awesome. And they have kitchen towels too.
Did you know that that's right. And dog bets. Yes, they have
so many things you guys need to check them out. Check them out.
Yes, check it out at my pillow dot com slash chicks. Don't forget
to use code chicks at checkout. That will mean that you will get the
biggest discounts MyPillow dot com slash chicks. There's no way in the world that
you remember this, which is completely fine, but way back in the day
probably, I want to say, at least ten years ago, when we
were doing radio, we had you on our show and we were brand spanking
new to radio, and it was right after I think it was right after
you'd written a book, and so we had you on to talk about your
book. And there was some controversy happening at the time with Matt Walsh,
and I know you had a beef with him recently on Twitter. I thought
it was a contra topic. Yes, there was controversy because he's always been
the same guy when it comes to women have their place and that needs to
be at home and they shouldn't have careers and all that stuff, and it
was about that, and we talked to you about that, and you said
something that has never left my brain, and I loved how you said it,
and I refer back to it all the time because I struggled with his
arguments. He's very persuasive. He's an excellent writer, as I'm sure you
know, and his criticisms were like getting to me. And I remember that
I asked you about it in that show and you said, I just know
that having a career and family, having that career makes me the best version
of myself for my family. And I was like, that is the perfect
way to describe how we think. I think how we feel about our own
Careerly, it just really resonated with me. And so when I saw you
guys kind of beefing about a month ago or three weeks ago or whatever about
the similar issue, we just we had to bring it up. We had
to bring it up with you again and see how that all got resolved and
all that. You know, Matt. I love Matt. I love what
he's doing on the gender ideology and pushing back, and I loved what is
a woman. But I couldn't disagree with him more on virtually everything he says
about actual women. I'm with him on the trans women. Yes, I
don't think he understands us at all when it comes to actual women. And
again, having said that I like the guy, I'm getting a little tired
of his NonStop judgment of women who make different choices than the ones he wants
us to make. Sorry, Matt, you're not our Jesus. We don't
answer to you. Like, live your life the way you want to live
it, and stuff judging everybody who makes a different choice. I'm sick of
it. And I know you gals and generally women, We're not judging moms
who choose to stay at home and raise their kids. That's a choice we
celebrate, We love. Those are our sisters and our friends and our moms.
Women aren't doing this to other women. For the most part. It's
guys like Matt, Like, shut up. I'm not out there saying your
wife is boring and a loser because she decided not to get a job.
I don't think that. I think it's awesome. She's the mother of six
children, she must be incredibly busy. But why are you looking at every
woman who works and trying to pass judgment and make her feel guilty about our
choices all the time. It's a fail. We don't feel guilty because of
you. But I'm just getting tired of his random posts about how the one
woman who said, oh, I'm confessing that I really liked it when the
guy I dated wanted to pay for the meal and he's like, no,
you can't have that unless you play the traditionally feminine role who died and made
you boss of all women? What are you saying? Like, I don't
know why he feels the need to try to set fake guardrails around our behavior.
It's a no, Matt, we don't need you. Yeah. Yeah,
we have seen though, there are a lot of these conservative pundits,
younger ones, the younger women who are kind of taking that discourse and running
with it and saying, hey, say no to the high powered careers.
Ladies like say no to that and do something else. Be at home,
stay at home, Like that's that's more admirable than having these high powered careers.
We're seeing a lot more of that from the younger women. And we
did a podcast on that, like a Deep Dive a couple weeks ago.
I think it was about the tradwives. Yeah, about like tradwives and that
just it's kind of the whole phenomenon, like it's a trend really with more
of the younger conservative pundits talking about this, and we were like, Okay,
this is a little bit weird. We've got a lot of backlash for
talking about it in a way where we're like, listen, staying at home
is great, but we love working and we don't want to be demonized for
working. Like what is that all about? Why is that happening? And
we are seeing sort of a trend there, like, what do you think
about that trend? It's been over some of the conservative women. I think
in the same way we've gone from the nonsensical believe all women. The Republican
Party in part has gone to believe no women. It's the same thing where
we were, like the society was all like, you go be empowered,
stayed home moms are losers, and now we've over corrected to working moms are
terrible, They're derelict. We over correct. Why can't there be nuanced conversations?
It's absurd. You know, I've said this publicly, but when I
was working at Fox News in the primetime, and I was making many many
dollars in that position, and I had a lot of power in the indust
and I was thinking about leaving. I didn't you know. I wound up
going to NBC, which, as everybody knows, was a disaster. But
the point was to get out of that position. That was the point,
like find an off ramp that'll let me do my job but still mother my
own children. That was my biggest motivating factor. So I will confess working
at that level was not good for me. That did not work. I
was not raising my own kids and I was missing too much of it.
And just quickly I said to my therapist at the time, I'm so unhappy.
And he said, you know, all the studies show that the children
of working moms turn out just fine. And he said, he's a Democrat,
but he goes, look at Chelsea Clinton. He goes, you know,
both of her parents were never around. I can't stand Chelsea Clinton.
So it was a bad example. I really can't stand to her. But
I remember I said to him. A response was, I'm not worried they're
not going to turn out. Well, I'm worried I'm missing all of it.
I don't want to miss at all. I won't be happy with that.
So that's why I left. Yeah, and down shifted right to a
show where I'd have far less power, a little less money, and you
know, wouldn't be as well respected, not seeing what would happen thereafter.
But in any event, so I do want to say I see what they're
tapping into, you know, like, if you sacrifice the joys of motherhood
and raising a family entirely in favor of the vaunted career, you may have
some regrets. And I've said this to women before, like if you got
that little voice in the back of your head telling you, like it was
telling me, you're missing too much of it, listen, listen. It's
like, yeah, that's you, that's you, you know, speaking saying
my god. You know, you don't have to do what the feminists of
all told you you must do in order to matter. You know, you
can listen to the voice inside of you and say I want a different choice.
But I also think that like these women who are pushing back against it
are over correcting to you don't have to shame the women who have made a
different choice, who would be terrible full time state at for doing a thing
that lights them on fire, right Like, yeah, because the version of
them, as I said, who would come home to those children if they
only worked an hour day, or who would be home with them if they
worked no hours of the day, might be a terrible person, might be
full of anxiety or an OCD complex that they didn't get to work out whatever,
And so we shouldn't be judging each other. Everyone's going to make the
choice that's right for them. And one other thing I will say this.
I said to my daughter's school. She's at a very competitive, great all
girls school. I said, here's something you can do for the girls on
career night. Bring in a stay at home mom. Make sure the girls
don't just hear from women who graduated from Harvard who went on to write for
Vanity Fair. Bring in women who went to C list colleges who landed up
in great careers that are really happy with So these girls don't think they have
to kill themselves in high school right ruin their whole teenage years and are to
get into some university, that she's going to make them hate their parents and
their country and we're going to stay at home. That's not true, he
says, Hey, here's another lane. You know, this is a different
choice I made. It's awesome. This is why I love it, or
even I said this to her, even stay at home wife, no kids,
right, can you imagine? Yes? Do it right? It's like,
yeah, I hate the judge. There's too much judginess around this issue.
Well, especially because it's coming from young women without kids. So it's
these like, right, I know exactly who you're talking about, Daisy,
because there's these there's these young influencers who just have decided they're going to start
interviewing people about this topic, and they themselves have no kids, and they're
they're pushing these judgments, like you said, on working moms, and it's
so it's infuriating. They don't know how touch them. Yeah, Like I
can only speak for myself on the actual personal experience, but I will tell
you I come home from work any day. I mean the entire time I've
been married to Doug, and we're going on sixteen years in a week or
two, and it's exciting we sit down at the dinner table or we have
a drink together. I've got so much to tell him. So much happens
in my day, like the funny interviews that I do. You know,
we'll talk about this tonight, or some crazy guests that happened, or some
weird ass story in the news, or it's just some interaction that I have
with somebody because I put myself out there in a world, in the world
in a way in which I wouldn't if I didn't have a job, and
in my relationship that turns my husband on. He loves it. It's sexy.
He likes somebody who is that intellectually engaged all day. My husband needs
that in a woman, and I frankly need that a man. Yeah,
that's not true for everybody, right, Like other men just want somebody's going
to take care of them and that turns them up. I get it.
But Matt Walsh writes about men like they're all a Matt Walsh, right,
and I just exactly it's offensive to those of us who know there is a
different reality for millions of people out there. So true, that's exactly right,
God said, is exactly right. Yes, So my mom and my
mother in law and then usually for our two older kids, we will get
Omaha steaks for them for Christmas, and so that's like it's a tradition now
every single year, this is what I do for Christmas for these individuals and
families, and they love it so much. And they look forward to it.
However, now I'm thinking this would be a really great Palatine's gift,
Oh Valentines. Yeah yeah, maybe even like do the fish for them,
because you've talked about the fish. Yeah. Yeah. It's not just steaks,
man, I mean, they're chops, their chicken breasts, their wings,
they're burgers, they're brought all of their stuff is so yummy. And
the sides that go with it, Oh my goodness, I cannot even pick
a favorite. There are so many good potato sides, oh my gosh.
And dessert and desserts, that's right, huh Yeah. And if you're a
dude struggling with what to get for your Valentine, consider that you might actually
just prepare a super romantic mealcase like bacon rab pilets, having some scalloped potatoes
on the side, some veggies. I mean, you can really romance it
up with some Omaha steak. You could totally romance it up. Yeah,
and then do a little bound chick about and then that's your Valentine's is Amaha
Si Plus that you're done. See you're welcome for the tip. You're welcome
there. It is so just visit Omaha Steaks dot Com makes slash chicks Omaha
Steaks dot Com slash chicks and then use code chicks and you'll get also with
your order. Minimum purchase, of course required, but you're gonna want everything,
so it's not gonna be hard to meet the minimum. You are also
going to get with your order for free chicken breasts and four free chops.
So it's a great time to get yourself loaded up, fill up your freezer.
Omaha Steaks dot Com slash chit. All right, So to wrap things
up, because we want to make sure that we're keeping you on your schedule.
What what do you think is gonna happen with the selection? I know
it's still a long ways away, but do you think that Trump actually has
as a shot Because I'm very pessimistic when it comes to I was a Desanti's
girl, so I mean, he was my guy. I knew he was
going to get out. I mean, everything was looking so bad for him
towards the end. But I also look at him still and think what a
missed opportunity for a solid, normal leader that we've just lost. And so
and I would just worry, and I feel like they're going to put somebody
else in at the last minute. On the other side, I feel like
it's going to be either Gavin or Michelle Obama and it's not going to be
Biden, and I feel like that's going to make us lose. If it's
Michelle Obama, the Democrats will win. Do you think that will happen?
Do you think that that's an a or do you think that's another conspiracy theory?
That's conspiracy theory. I mean there he's been reporting that that the Obamas
are out there polling top Democrats on what their appetite is for it, so
you know they're Atiz's got to be huge, But it's going to be very
hard to make Grandpa leave the pudd You know, he's enjoying Kamala. What
do you do with her? She's going to get sidlined. Nobody's rooting for
her. She's gone. You're sad, by the way, there's a position
open at Harvard they could probably turfer over there. Is that what that's what
they're going to do? Honestly, it has to be a black woman.
Oh, I've got just the one here, you go. So I have
to put money on it now, and I have to say, like it's
very tight and all the pollsters I respect are saying it's very tight right now.
And you know it's very tight. Trump's leading all the swing than him
losing. I mean, like right now, the Democrats who think like,
oh please God give me Donald Trump, I don't think they're paying attention.
Trump's winning in all of the seven swing states right now, all seven of
them. He's got some problems, for sure. You know that the independence
really will drive the election. The Republicans will come home for Trump. I
have no doubt he's got to win ninety percent of them. They're mad now.
They liked him far less in sixteen and they came home. Now they've
got a whole Trumal residency behind them, and even though he wasn't their candidate
of choice, they're going to vote for Donald Trump. It's the independence he's
got to get. And what does RFK do to that equation? And that
was just yeah, I was just going to say RFKK pulls more from Biden.
That's my belief. I know there's a big two. I do because
I think there are many Democrats who are very pissed off about what happened during
COVID who can't vote for Donald Trump and by the way, he's partially to
blame for COVID, but they would like to penalize Joe Biden. I know
a lot of these people, and I just think if we get closer to
November and RFK is still pulling the numbers he is, and the internals at
Team Trump show he's pulling from Trump, they're going to go ghot on him
with his actual liberal positions. RFKJ is a Democrat. I like him.
I've interviewed him many times, but he is a Democrat. I mean,
look at his positions on abortion, on the environment, on the LGBTQ stuff,
especially the t stuff. They could sink him with Republicans if they just
unleashed their fury and the fact that they haven't suggested me they see what I
see, which is he's probably going to hurt Biden more than he hurts Trump,
or where he hurts Trump won't matter anyway. If I had about money
down, I'd put it on Trump right now. But that Democrat vote machine
and the mail in ballots and all that, that's it's scary. Yeah,
yeah, I love this. I love the optimism because we got to turn
this country around four more years. It's going off a Cliff four more years
of this. I mean truly, just the open borders. I know,
I'm in Texas. It's crazy. You're our kids, It's absolutely so you're
going to have to grow up with these millions of foreigners here. We have
no idea what their motivations are and taking our social services and our schools,
and they don't love America for the most part. And they are drug dealers
and fentanyl and all the rest of it. And we're just like, oh,
you saw the New York Times running cover for Joe Biden. He wanted
a more humane he wanted the world to see us as more humane to whom,
not to us our kids in mind, right, exactly. Yeah,
it's really any fake or break moment for the country. It is. It
is. And if you look at video of him from you know, twenty
thirty years ago, he said the complete opposite. I mean, he was
he was harder when it came to I say he was, but he was
definitely more strict when it came to the border. So he's definitely he has
no idea what he's saying. At this point, he's not even pulling the
string. This guy is out. That's the one thing I'll say, like,
I know, Trump's got four criminal trials. I actually no longer convinced
that any of them is going to go off before election date. They're all
getting postponed. That's very good for Trump, very good because if he becomes
president again, he can pull Jack Smith off of the two federal prosecutions and
those go away. The one in Georgia's imploding thanks to Fanny Willison here alleged
paramore all of her unethical behavior, and the New York one is a nothing
burger anyway, that he's not facing jail time there. So it could be
that Trump pulls the inside straight and gets rid of all of these. But
so it could be that Trump has a bad year of press. But I
think it's looking better for him. But the thing over on the demp side
is, to your point, Biden could fall. I mean, one ball
could end the Democrats chances like that. Yeah, oh my gosh. I
hope it's Biden, though I want it to be Biden because I worry that
if it's anybody else that our chances tank. Yeah. If it's a gas
than are at Michelle Obama, than we're screwed. I'm wishing him all the
best of health. I don't know about Gavin. He's so gross, right,
He's just gradical. Yeah. But you know what, Meghan, I
actually talked to I talked to it. I did a speech at some thing
at Baylor here a couple months ago, and there was a conservative young lady
who was I'm imprecious, and she goes that Gavin is just so hot,
oh god. And I was like, oh my god, I mean I
almost vomited. It's too much gross. No, Trump is like daddy to
those. I think he's daddy to a lot of the college. That's a
thing. So my friend was a diehard Trumper, I mean like true,
true Trumper, and she said she was like going to the rallies and all
that, and she said they call him dad. Yeah, daddy, Oh
my dad. It's a little bit weird. That's a little that's a little
weird. Megan, thank you so much for your time today. We always
enjoy talking to you. Can't wait to do it again. My pleasure anytime. Thanks