WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:12.599 We got someone or something crawling around out here? Does a legend walk among 2 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:21.480 us working in the forests of our world? Did you see what it was? 3 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:24.039 Was it a person or an animal? Or I can't go. All 4 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:26.800 if I know is that my vener light came on and I just happened to 5 00:00:26.839 --> 00:00:31.000 glimp and see this thing running across the yard. A good side man or 6 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:38.640 something works like a man. I don't know what it was. For over 7 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:44.640 fifteen years, we've talked with scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying 8 00:00:44.679 --> 00:00:51.920 to gain insight and proof around the existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus quite 9 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:58.840 er, do you hello? Get somebody out here? What's going on out 10 00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:03.079 There's got to avet of about four I don't know, easy amount there. 11 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:08.480 Yeah, I'm working writer. Oh okay, hand on your y Yeah, 12 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:21.079 I got you big? Okay? What's he doing in your yard? Join 13 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:46.560 us as we continue into the investigation of the Sasquatch experience. You know, 14 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.200 I still got to fix those opening titles, Matt, your name is still 15 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:51.640 not on them, so don't take it personal. Oh not at all. 16 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:53.359 I just got to get the I just got to updated. Good evening, 17 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:59.239 folks, Welcome to the Sasquatch Experience. Monday, December eleventh, twenty twenty 18 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:01.480 three, guys were getting towards the end of the year, our eighty sixth 19 00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:06.719 episode with our special guest tonight, our good friend Larry Beans Baxter. If 20 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:10.599 you guys have been doing anything Bigfoot related and following small town monsters, he's 21 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.520 been all over this last season of Beyond the Trail of Bigfoot Dark Coast, 22 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:22.120 which is pretty it's been pretty spectacularly. It's been great. I've thoroughly enjoyed 23 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:27.199 that. I love this kind of long form expose they're doing into Alaska, 24 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:34.400 the Last Frontier. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was quite an 25 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:39.039 experience because we went out there with the intense intent purpose of just spending as 26 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:44.479 much time out there as we could, and in typical Alaska fashion, you 27 00:02:44.520 --> 00:02:47.319 know, the weather did not cooperate. It rained almost the entire time, 28 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:51.159 so much so that by the end I was starting to run out of dry 29 00:02:51.199 --> 00:02:54.520 clothes and we were I was I was getting into a situation where I was 30 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:59.240 like, I'm I'm gonna have to start wearing wet stuff because I can't get 31 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.000 stuff dry quick enough. But right, is there anything more uncomfortable than wearing 32 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:06.199 wet clothes though, like I don't think of many things, especially socks, 33 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:12.919 wet sox and the little no seam flies going in those are in the ass 34 00:03:12.919 --> 00:03:16.360 too. But yeah, we were out there for fourteen days and then actually 35 00:03:16.360 --> 00:03:19.840 it was a little I was pretty much out in the field the entire month 36 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:23.560 of June because I spent the fourteen days there. We spent the beginning of 37 00:03:23.599 --> 00:03:25.159 the month at the Boreo Bigfoot Expo and Fairbanks, and we went out to 38 00:03:25.199 --> 00:03:30.680 Manley Hot Springs together, and then after the fourteen days we rest and recruited 39 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:34.599 a little bit here at my place, and then we went to my area 40 00:03:34.639 --> 00:03:37.759 here on the ken I Peninsula for a little bit. So it was a 41 00:03:37.960 --> 00:03:40.879 it was an eventful month. It was I pretty much did all my my 42 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:45.479 squatching and one go I didn't really go out much more after that. Well, 43 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.080 you know, and I think it's a great testament to some of the 44 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:52.240 things we've talked about that one of the problems that is pervasive in the field 45 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:57.120 is that we don't get to spend enough consistent time in an area. And 46 00:03:57.240 --> 00:04:00.840 one of the things I love the most about this episos this little season series 47 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.080 whatever we want to call it there, Larry, is that you guys got 48 00:04:03.120 --> 00:04:05.319 to spend the time. There were some things you got to do and some 49 00:04:05.400 --> 00:04:10.719 things you didn't get to do. The with the duck blind, with the 50 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.759 thermal camera, right, some things I would have loved doing seen, but 51 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:18.120 understanding there's limitations. The blinds over here in my corner just still in the 52 00:04:18.160 --> 00:04:20.879 box, unused. We just didn't get a chance to get it out, 53 00:04:20.879 --> 00:04:26.120 and it was just too too wet and it rained too much. It's something 54 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:29.160 I mean, I'm definitely keeping it in my in my pocket and we're gonna 55 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.560 We're gonna try it again eventually. I'm curious to see if maybe I can 56 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:34.720 shoot thermal through and I think maybe I can because it's just like a thin 57 00:04:35.160 --> 00:04:40.800 plastic blind. So that might be something we try in the future where we 58 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:45.160 just maybe leave it unmanned with maybe just the thermal running in it or something. 59 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:48.920 You definitely got to keep this informed of that. I think the advantage 60 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:53.800 you have there that we don't have in the States in most parts is the 61 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:58.879 traffic significantly less. You don't have to worry I think of somebody stealing it 62 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.120 as quickly as we would have to worry about it here in the lower forty 63 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:04.959 eight. Yeah, well, especially out there. I mean, it's it's 64 00:05:05.000 --> 00:05:09.839 pretty hard to get out there unless you've got a boat, and there's not 65 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:14.319 really any reason to be out there unless you own property out there, or 66 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.680 maybe you're with fishing game or something. But it's not a lot of a 67 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:23.360 will Smith. I was just I say, it's really hard to get to 68 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.120 and you know, we've never you know, there's been people that come into 69 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:31.120 Bay occasionally and maybe they're fishing or maybe looking for shelter from a storm, 70 00:05:31.279 --> 00:05:34.199 but you know, as far as just being out in the woods walking around, 71 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:39.560 people don't generally just disembark and head out into the woods. Yeah, 72 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.720 absolutely correct. And once you if you check it out, go to YouTube 73 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:46.879 and check out Small Town Monster's Dark Coast. You'll see exactly what Larry's talking 74 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.920 about. And it's not the only documentary Larry's been. And I'll give you 75 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:54.360 guys a little bio on Larry Beans Baxter our guest tonight. If you're just 76 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:57.519 joining us, I'm Sean Forker. That's James Baker over to my left, 77 00:05:57.680 --> 00:06:00.279 Matt Arner over in the corner, Henry May down on the bottom, vance 78 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:03.279 Nesbitt in the middle square and then of course Larry down all the way at 79 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:08.040 the other bottom underneath Matt. That's our panel for this evening. Larry is 80 00:06:08.079 --> 00:06:13.079 a military and law enforcement veteran passionate about investigating the unexplained. He lives works 81 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:16.040 in podcasts from Homer, Alaska, and is available for travel and speaking engagements. 82 00:06:16.079 --> 00:06:18.439 Folks. If you'd like to book him, get a hold of him. 83 00:06:18.480 --> 00:06:24.120 He runs the Last Squatch Podcast to Lastquatchpodcast dot com all around good dude. 84 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.079 This is his second time on our program here at the Sasquatch Experience. 85 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:30.600 We always love having Larry. Got to hang out with him in Tennessee just 86 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:34.240 a little bit at the Smoky Mountain Bigfoot Conference JB and I and we're just 87 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.879 glad you came back on with us, Larry, and continue this conversation. 88 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:42.279 You got a lot more to talk about with us this time. Yeah. 89 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:45.120 Well, I really enjoy your guys' show. It's one of the few that 90 00:06:45.199 --> 00:06:49.519 I listened to regularly and keep a rest on. I really like the format, 91 00:06:49.560 --> 00:06:54.040 you know, and you guys are very grounded and you bring up some 92 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:58.120 good points and it reminds me of the old school the Bigfoot show, and 93 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:00.720 there's just not a lot of that anymore, where a lot of the podcasts 94 00:07:00.720 --> 00:07:05.519 and YouTube shows out today are just pretty much creepy pasta and scary stories. 95 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:11.519 And that's good and that's cool. But it's always nice to just sit back 96 00:07:11.560 --> 00:07:15.600 and have a serious, grounded discussion every now and then. We really appreciate 97 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:16.959 that, Larry. We do, and we try. I mean, it's 98 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.120 you know, the show's not for everybody. If you like that kind of 99 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:24.720 scary bump in the night stuff, this isn't always that show. But I 100 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.839 think what sets us apart is at least the majority of us are researchers, 101 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.000 or have researched, or do active field work. Right, Matt and myself 102 00:07:32.040 --> 00:07:38.079 have a pretty local area. Matt's been stomping all of Pennsylvania trying to find 103 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:41.600 us a new place to really go deep and investigate, because you have to 104 00:07:41.839 --> 00:07:45.319 without We're trying to kind of do what you're doing in Alaska, but in 105 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:50.399 Pennsylvania, and I'm sure you can understand the population density and difference makes that 106 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:57.399 a lot more challenging. But Matt's doing a great job finding us some spots, 107 00:07:57.519 --> 00:08:00.399 Larry, But you know, we're passionate about the subject. We care 108 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:05.360 about, you know, the research and and I guess that's why. You 109 00:08:05.399 --> 00:08:09.240 know, I enjoy having researchers such as yourself on and I enjoy supporting and 110 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:13.839 following small town monsters. And I've watched the other documentaries you've been in the 111 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:18.480 Search for the Port Chatham Harryman Bigfoot Encounters in the PNW with Amy Boo, 112 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:22.160 like those are really good. I don't want to take anything away from the 113 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:28.319 great documentaries as well aside from the small Town Monsters, But you know, 114 00:08:28.399 --> 00:08:33.320 you're really showing through your research and efforts. I think you're giving people this 115 00:08:33.440 --> 00:08:37.320 glimpse into an area very few of us are ever going to get to experience, 116 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:41.480 you know. Sadly, you know, not everybody can make it to 117 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:46.720 Alaska, either financially, physically, or even just have the time, because 118 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:50.039 it's not a it's not an easy place to get to, especially where you 119 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:56.559 research. That's true. It's it's a challenging place. It's not for everybody. 120 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.519 You know. We have a lot of people move up here and they 121 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:03.080 don't usually make it through the first winter. They'll you got to be there. 122 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.519 You have to have a certain level of self sufficiency up here. You 123 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.600 have to be able to you know, shovel your your driveway or your walk 124 00:09:09.720 --> 00:09:11.919 or you know, you just you just have to be prepared. And a 125 00:09:11.919 --> 00:09:16.799 lot of people get up here thinking that a lot of the same infrastructure and 126 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:20.840 and luxuries that they have where they came from, they're going to have them 127 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:24.200 up here, and that isn't always the case. Well, you know, 128 00:09:24.639 --> 00:09:26.000 to say nothing of the fact, the last time you were on our show, 129 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:31.000 didn't a moose run through your yard? Yeah? I looked at my 130 00:09:31.080 --> 00:09:33.879 blind before we got started because I was like, if it happens again, 131 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:37.200 I want to be ready. Go ahead, James, I'm sorry. Well, 132 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:41.440 the Northwest is the same way. I know that a lot of people 133 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:45.000 look at that as the Homestead Act and some of the places where they can 134 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:48.120 get free land to do is that, you know whatever. But they don't 135 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.879 realize also there's not a local convenience store attached to so like you watch, 136 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:56.639 I watch a lot of the off the Grid shows, and they do some 137 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.600 in Alaska, and they do some in you know, some of these states 138 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:01.639 where you know, there's not a town for fifty miles. If there's an 139 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:07.759 emergency, you better either have a really good vehicle or know where the helicopter 140 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:13.320 will end. And you know, working in law enforcement, I got kind 141 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.559 of a look behind the curtain to a lot of that. You know, 142 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:20.120 the state Troopers are in charge of search and rescue for the state of Alaska, 143 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.399 and you know, I was privy to a lot of radio traffic where 144 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.039 you know, the dispatch would call the troopers and be like, hey, 145 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:31.000 there's there's this person. They're stuck on this mountain for with whatever problem and 146 00:10:31.080 --> 00:10:35.000 they can't get down, and the trooper would be like the supervisor would be 147 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:35.960 like, well, we can't get anybody up there till you know, at 148 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:41.399 least tomorrow afternoon, so tell them to buckle down. And you know, 149 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.440 logistically I understand why they did that, but at the same time, I'm 150 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:46.679 like, think of that poor sap that just called for help, and now 151 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.799 they're going to get told you got to wait. Because people don't usually call 152 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:52.919 for help at the first sign of distress. They wait till it's too late 153 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:56.360 usually to call for help, and then they get told, well, we're 154 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:58.120 not coming. You know, you got to you gotta hold on a little 155 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:01.600 bit longer. Well, well, I'll tell you, Larry, for one 156 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.320 thing. It's an absolute pleasure to have you on the podcast. We do 157 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:09.320 have to we do have to get you down for the STM Monster fests, 158 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:15.960 so that that's like a must get down there. That is awesome. Yeah, 159 00:11:16.039 --> 00:11:18.840 well, well we'll be there. So by the way, we have 160 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.200 a good burger place in that town that that me and Seawan and James will 161 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:28.240 take you. So but anyways, with you mentioning about the search and rescue, 162 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:33.559 have you heard any radio traffic through the dispatch of anything having to do 163 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:39.200 with you know, possibly a big foot sighting, any other cryptology, cryptozoological 164 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:46.440 you know, entities that were called in through dispatch to either Alaska State State 165 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:52.240 troopers or to local police. I can't. I do have one bigfoot story, 166 00:11:52.639 --> 00:11:56.200 but I can't say I ever heard the troopers get any calls related to 167 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.799 that. Of course, you know, I could only we weren't on that. 168 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:03.440 It was just a channel we could scan and I didn't scan it all 169 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.879 the time. But I don't I don't remember ever hearing anything that could be 170 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:09.759 cryptid related or you know, like, yeah, oh it's not a bear, 171 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.559 but it's something. I don't remember hearing anything like that. We did 172 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.039 get a call one night, me and my partner of a gentleman in a 173 00:12:16.039 --> 00:12:22.799 local campground here. It said Bigfoot stole his potatoes. And he was one 174 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.720 of our our frequent flyers that we dealt with quite a bit, and he 175 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:33.279 uh it was it was amazing because we had this new dispatcher that had just 176 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:37.159 got released out of training and was on his own, and he was a 177 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:41.960 really he was a sharp kid. He was really, you know, really 178 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:45.279 quick. So the guy calls up and is like, I'm at the so 179 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:48.879 and so campground and Bigfoot just stole my potatoes. And this kid doesn't miss 180 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:54.879 a beat. He goes, sir, did you see the beast? And 181 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.559 so we uh, me and my partner are head up there. This gentleman, 182 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:03.559 you know, he's got a lot of controlled substance issues, you know, 183 00:13:03.879 --> 00:13:07.039 he's got a lot going on. Yeah, he was telling us about 184 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:09.759 what happened, and I actually went over and looked, and you know, 185 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.720 it has been raining. The ground was south there was no tracks or anything. 186 00:13:13.000 --> 00:13:16.519 This campground in the middle of town. It's not like it's like in 187 00:13:16.519 --> 00:13:18.639 the middle of nowhere. Yeah, so you know, obviously we were pretty 188 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:22.320 sure he wasn't telling telling the truth, and we ended up taking him in 189 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:28.720 for a well wellness check and holding him to the hospital for a little while. 190 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.679 But yeah, that's the only bigfoot related call that I ever And while 191 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.919 we're at the hospital, he keeps telling me. He starts telling my partner 192 00:13:35.960 --> 00:13:41.480 I've seen I've seen bigfoot in Idaho and you know, Florida and Montana, 193 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.360 and he like names off like four or five states and my partner, my 194 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:46.840 partner says, well, you need to start carrying a camera, dude. 195 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:56.919 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, right, I'm sorry. 196 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.799 I don't mean to laugh at you know, people that say, oh, 197 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:03.240 I've seen it, because you weren't there. You don't know if he actually 198 00:14:03.240 --> 00:14:11.399 saw something or not. But it sounds a bit of forty eight states. 199 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.759 You know, you might still questioning a little bit. You know, I 200 00:14:15.759 --> 00:14:18.879 saw him in Nebraska. Yeah sure, God man, it was in my 201 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:26.679 ramen the other day. But looks just like it. Larry, as you've 202 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.919 gone through the law enforcement military, was this assquatch something you always kept on 203 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:37.639 the forefront of your mind or was it something that eventually you came into going 204 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.399 to some of these areas. I've always been interested in the subject, and 205 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:43.559 it's always kind of been in the back of my mind. And I can't 206 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.600 say, you know, when I was out with the military or anything like 207 00:14:46.600 --> 00:14:50.639 that, because we went to some pretty remote areas at Fort Wainwright and oh, 208 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.240 geez, what's the other one up there, Fort Greeley, And I 209 00:14:54.279 --> 00:15:01.200 can't say that I ever heard or saw anything that really made me think Bigfoot. 210 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.679 Of course, those are areas where you know, the soldiers are always 211 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:07.000 going. They always have the exercises in the same place every every year or 212 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.679 so, about the same time of year, so it's it's almost like hunting. 213 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.919 Like the animals knew that they were going. It was about time for 214 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:16.559 all these soldiers to come in, so if they were around, they probably 215 00:15:16.600 --> 00:15:20.840 made themselves scarce. I do remember we were, you know, hurry up 216 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:24.720 and wait. We were sitting around waiting to go move to our site and 217 00:15:24.759 --> 00:15:28.320 set up. And about this big long line of convoy, this convoy of 218 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.759 humviyes, and everybody's just kind of sitting on their hood and just kind of 219 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:35.080 waiting to hear what's going on. And off in the distance, these wolves 220 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:39.559 start howling just ooh, and all these all these city kids that have never 221 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.039 been out in the woods, they all start like getting in their humviyes and 222 00:15:43.240 --> 00:15:48.320 shutting the doors. And that's great, Yeah, but that is kind of 223 00:15:48.480 --> 00:15:54.000 kind of a human nature reaction for those that do not spend a whole lot 224 00:15:54.000 --> 00:16:00.759 of time in the vast wilderness or even in forest lands. And you hear 225 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:06.559 a common animal start spouting off, whether it's a mating call or it's just 226 00:16:06.679 --> 00:16:11.240 pissed off, you tend to get a little bit of a goosebumps running up 227 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:18.000 your spine and in gonna go seek shelter. Well, when we were in 228 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.080 when we were in Washington, I came we came across the mountain lion tracks 229 00:16:22.320 --> 00:16:23.639 and you know, I'm like, I'm like, oh, you know bears 230 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:26.480 whatever, you know, moves, you know, Like I know I have 231 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.759 a frame of reference. I know what to do if I deal with those 232 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.279 animals, not so much with mountain lions. And we saw these tracks and 233 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.000 it kind of nerved me a little bit. I'm like, I don't know 234 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:42.559 what to do for right, laser pointer that always works? Water bottle. 235 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:52.519 Yeah, and Tom the other day the guy got in the tiger cage and 236 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:57.639 the mountain lion cage and all they found was his shoes. Oh way, 237 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.200 it was on this morning while I was supposed to go to jury duty. 238 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:18.200 Okay, wow, boy that quickly derailed for some reason. I was like, 239 00:17:18.279 --> 00:17:22.839 is this a punchline? Is this going to be like the cat was 240 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:26.279 where there was there was there was a zoo that had a mountain lion, 241 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:32.440 and some guy crept into the cage and they found they found the mountain lion 242 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.640 or the mountain lion or one of the cats, and he was chewing on 243 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.519 a shoe and they found the guy like twenty feet away from him, and 244 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:44.640 they were like, yeah, stupid of her reins. Kind of right, 245 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:48.640 it does animals. And that's the thing is, when you're out in the 246 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:51.839 woods, animals like that are just so random. Because like, while I 247 00:17:51.960 --> 00:17:56.920 was working on my little mini putt, I had a deer maybe five feet 248 00:17:56.960 --> 00:17:59.599 away from me, just looking at me, and when I turned around, 249 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:03.640 he was in there. He had been standing there probably ten minutes before I 250 00:18:03.759 --> 00:18:08.319 noticed, And like, you know, if he'd have been a mount lion, 251 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:11.880 I'd have been dead. You know, I've never seen that coming, 252 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:18.680 so kind of it kind of relating to the to the same feline experience from 253 00:18:18.680 --> 00:18:23.240 the Dark Coast. You guys found a lot of sign of links is there 254 00:18:23.279 --> 00:18:29.440 anything that you have to be as careful of with links versus mountline or podcap. 255 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:33.039 I don't know that I've ever heard of my encounter where a lynks attacked 256 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:37.039 a person. Yeah, maybe there's some out there, but any anytime, 257 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:42.799 I've which it's funny. So I've seen all I don't know, four links, 258 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:45.680 I think since I've been in Alaska, and I've been in Alaska for 259 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:52.160 like about twenty years now, Yeah, and I've seen like four links. 260 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.039 One of them, I mean, like as close to me as that bookshelf 261 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:56.680 back there, I could have I could have grabbed it probably if it didn't 262 00:18:56.720 --> 00:19:00.000 run away. And I've talked to people that have been up here much longer 263 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:03.480 than I have that I've never seen one. Oh wow, right, But 264 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:10.079 I don't think a lynx is near in size as a mountain lion would be. 265 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:12.839 And I think it would only pick on a prey that it could actually 266 00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:18.440 have the realization it could take down and drag away and have for lunch. 267 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:25.079 I don't see a lynx as that large of a predator. It's really not. 268 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:27.920 Yeah, I don't. I don't think they get over thirty pounds. 269 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:32.400 Yeah, right, so it's probably about the same as one of our bobcats 270 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:37.599 round here. So it would be smaller animals like rabbit and mice and stuff 271 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:41.160 that would be I would think, so yeah, or like you know, 272 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:44.480 dingoes would eat a baby or something that, well, we have a lot 273 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:49.480 of ermine meant you know, a little little Martins stuff like that. I 274 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:55.960 imagine that's probably yeah, So okay, So I and again I don't want 275 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.599 to divert too much from the bigfoot talk, but I still have to know 276 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:04.000 with the Dark Coast, you guys found signs of Sitka deer. I found 277 00:20:04.039 --> 00:20:07.000 that we've got them. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind, 278 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.400 Like they're so yeah, they're not supposed to be in that area according to 279 00:20:11.480 --> 00:20:17.319 Fishing Game, but we had a drone sighting, we had footprints, we 280 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:23.759 found scat, we found bones the jawbone, and we got trail camera footage 281 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:30.519 of of one. Like did you did you contact Fishing Game about that then 282 00:20:30.599 --> 00:20:37.319 to let them know that they are in that area or screw them? Yeah? 283 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:41.960 Look, you know what animals, of all animals, they do not 284 00:20:41.200 --> 00:20:48.640 have any sense of what borders are state borders or county borders. They don't. 285 00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:52.640 And I'll cover a little bit of that in our bottom of the hour 286 00:20:52.720 --> 00:20:59.160 news segment that animals have no clue as to what borderlines are in states that 287 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:03.160 are made whatsoever. So yeah, they can certainly appear in there where it 288 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:07.839 was not expected to be in the you know what, it's an exploration for 289 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:11.480 them too. Baker makes a good point saying the government is it right. 290 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:15.799 I mean, that's like they just recently there was an article where the fishing 291 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:21.440 game in Arkansas finally admitted there's mountain lions down there, and somebody got a 292 00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.799 clear picture of one on a trail camera. And you know, like, 293 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:27.039 like I said, we got I mean, we got other than like, 294 00:21:27.160 --> 00:21:30.079 well, we do have the bone. I think Alex has it. So 295 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:33.920 I mean we got everything. We've got visuals, we've got trace evidence, 296 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:37.920 and we've got DNA, and we've got pictures of live ones on camera, 297 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:42.559 more than enough to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, and they can watch 298 00:21:42.599 --> 00:21:48.759 it on YouTube. And I think that point Sorry, go ahead, James, 299 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:52.559 but I think that point is valid to the whole conversation on what we 300 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.200 talk about, because the fact is, it's like a lot of times, 301 00:21:56.200 --> 00:22:00.319 even Pennsylvania, there are a lot of animals in Pennsylvania that that the Pennsylvania 302 00:22:00.880 --> 00:22:06.359 dcn R or whatever they're called, say don't exist. Oh, that can't 303 00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:08.160 be there, that can't be there. You have a animals in Alaska that 304 00:22:08.200 --> 00:22:12.519 aren't supposed to be there. But I'll tell you now that if they can 305 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:18.079 be wrong about that, then don't you know you've got to You've got to 306 00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.200 use your senses to say, Okay, I see this. Okay, yes, 307 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:25.880 this person says it can't be this. But here's the thing is, 308 00:22:26.160 --> 00:22:30.319 you're also telling me there's no bobcats in Pennsylvania or no mountain lions in Pennsylvania. 309 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:36.039 Right, like Van said, they don't care about a state line. 310 00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:40.640 I've got coyotes. Yeah, I've got coyotes here on my property that I've 311 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:44.559 I've caught on before. We're not absolute, they're not really supposed to be 312 00:22:44.599 --> 00:22:49.559 here either, like they're relatively new import I believe, I mean the mountain 313 00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:57.880 lions in the city of Chicago three times now over the last ten years. 314 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:07.799 Three times with a mountain lion in the City of Chicago boundary lake front. 315 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.680 And Okay, so it happens that goes to your point vance of you know, 316 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:17.000 these animals don't know boundaries, right, And as we continuously push out, 317 00:23:17.359 --> 00:23:21.759 we're pushing out, and maybe not so much in Alaska, but down 318 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:22.759 here in the lower forty eight, you know, we're pushing out and they 319 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:26.039 have to go somewhere, and where are they going to go? Well, 320 00:23:26.079 --> 00:23:30.799 when there's resource available, So how do we not think that's not going to 321 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:37.039 apply to you know? Eventually, larger creat scared the living crap out of 322 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:40.119 them, and I'm like, you know, when I think I'm just going 323 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:42.720 to go into the metropolitan area and hang out there, well, listen, 324 00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:48.319 if you guys remember I think it was was it Mike Green and North Carolina? 325 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:53.920 It was investigating I think an area he lived, maybe that, or 326 00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.000 maybe it was an episode of finding Bigfoot. My mind's failing me here. 327 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:03.759 This culled to Sack that was there wasn't always there. And they think that 328 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:07.279 the reason why they kept having sightings is because they kept passing through this area 329 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.160 that they used to go through all the time. Now that there's these you 330 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.519 know, new obstructions there, they're going to go through it, but they're 331 00:24:14.519 --> 00:24:18.400 going to be a lot more you know, stealthy, and just because that's 332 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:23.359 their range and that's their habit and you know how many other areas, you 333 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.839 know, are they experiencing this. You know, we talk about habituation as 334 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:32.839 if it's I don't open up that can of worms. But you can't say 335 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:36.559 the age word without you know, at least glancing through. It may not 336 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:42.599 necessarily be a behavioral anchor may just be a reflex or a you know, 337 00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:48.400 continual route through that They're not there because somebody's keeping them there. They're there 338 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:53.680 because they're always there. Habituation has gotten a bad reputation because say it. 339 00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.960 They think of bigfoot knock them on the door and asking for sugar, and 340 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:03.799 that's not necessarily I mean, I've got a habituation situation going on with the 341 00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.640 moose in my yard. They came in and they like to eat the plants 342 00:25:07.640 --> 00:25:11.240 in my in my yard and my trees, and I don't put them out 343 00:25:11.279 --> 00:25:12.480 there for them, But they're there, and I know they're going to become 344 00:25:12.519 --> 00:25:15.799 and I know they're going to I get pictures of them all the time, 345 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.920 and I don't run them off. I just let them do their thing. 346 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.119 It's you know, I'm not I don't have a relationship with the moose. 347 00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:26.839 We're not like I don't go pet them or anything. But I know they're 348 00:25:26.839 --> 00:25:29.759 going to come. I know when you know the plants are gonna want to 349 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:33.200 eat, and I get pictures of them. But that's a valid point, 350 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:37.559 right there, is you know when they're coming, you get pictures. You 351 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.680 know that if you went ten miles down to the general store, the moose 352 00:25:41.680 --> 00:25:47.079 wouldn't follow you and you'd see it again. So there's a difference between what 353 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:49.039 you're saying and some of these people, like the gentlemen earlier, I've seen 354 00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:55.200 it twelve different states. No, you think you saw it in twelve different 355 00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.480 states and you made a bunch of circles on a bunch of pictures. Those 356 00:25:57.480 --> 00:26:04.480 are the people that make habituations the look back. Absolutely, Henry, we're 357 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:08.680 going to say something there, buddy. Yeah. I wanted to ask Larry 358 00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:17.559 about the ka the otter Man land man. Yeah, So that's that's more 359 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:22.160 in Southeast Alaska. I don't have a lot of experience or reports with that, 360 00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:26.319 but I do know it's the natives down there, the Clinkett They'll they'll 361 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.960 be quick to tell you that bigfoot and kushtaka are two separate things. They're 362 00:26:30.000 --> 00:26:34.200 not the same thing. And there's a lot of a lot of the legends 363 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:37.200 about like, oh, they'll take you and they'll turn you into a kushtaka. 364 00:26:37.319 --> 00:26:41.759 You know, that's that's kind of their thing. So I want to 365 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.119 get down there to southeast Prince of Welles Island is one of the places on 366 00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:49.839 my on my bucket list, and we actually had a trip plan. I 367 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:53.079 think it was back in twenty twenty. We were going to go and of 368 00:26:53.119 --> 00:26:56.359 course we all know what happened in twenty twenty. And I had the camp 369 00:26:56.400 --> 00:27:00.400 I had a campgrounds reserve, I had a car rented. I mean, 370 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.839 I had everything, and we ended up canceling the trip because of what was 371 00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:11.680 going on. But it's it's going to happen eventually, Larry. You've had 372 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:18.599 shows like The Alaskan Killer Bigfoot, and you know other shows that have really, 373 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.519 you know, probably taken some liberty with por Chatham in the area. 374 00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:26.759 Sure, anything you want to set the record straight on regarding some of those 375 00:27:26.759 --> 00:27:32.680 shows and what's really transpired and taking place, Well, it's just it's been 376 00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:38.000 very dramatized. It's a lot like if you think about the Salem witch Trials, 377 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:45.240 where the salemnch Trials has been turned into this like massacre you know that 378 00:27:45.240 --> 00:27:48.000 that went on for years where these witches were burned at the stake and in 379 00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.119 reality, you know, there was some witches. I believe they were hung 380 00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:56.720 and I think there was like less than twenty or something it was, And 381 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:03.359 that's kind of what's going on with por Chatham. There's definitely some negative connotations 382 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.240 around the Nanta knock down there. They you know, they're afraid of him. 383 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.000 There's been some mysterious deaths there. There's been some missing people there, 384 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.880 but it's not quite the massacre that everybody quite makes it out to be on 385 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.359 the internet. But there is some I mean, there's some really squatchy stuff 386 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:23.079 going on there, and there's some sightings and some some Bigfoot legends that go 387 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:29.759 back way before you know, the big Foot Fever hit the United States and 388 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.160 you know with like Jerry Crew, Patterson, Gibblin, you know, stuff 389 00:28:33.200 --> 00:28:36.720 going back to like the twenties, the thirties. You know, Bigfoot was 390 00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.839 being talked about up here, and they've just kind of turned it into the 391 00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.000 like the creepy pasta. You know, they want to produce scary stories and 392 00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.839 yeah, they've just they've just kind of taken it and dramatized it for you 393 00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:53.920 know, for viewers. I think that's a critical point that you made, 394 00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:56.440 and I think more people need to know and maybe we need to talk about 395 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:03.119 more as these early sightings of Sasquatch, nati nach and whatever. You know, 396 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.839 the Native term is for this the Alaskan term is for the Bigfoot in 397 00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:11.200 this area. And I found that fascinating just because I have this book sitting 398 00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:15.279 right in front of me that's a thousand and some pages of the historical Bigfoot, 399 00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:18.279 right, and I think a book like that is belongs in every bigfooter's 400 00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:26.079 library. But you tell a much more comprehensive story of the background and folklore 401 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:33.039 the area before these stories have been bastardized and turned into silver screen productions, 402 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:37.079 right. And you know, for crying out loude you've got Eastern Orthodox priests 403 00:29:37.119 --> 00:29:48.359 doing exorcisms and you know things that you know probably aren't very aren't very accurate. 404 00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.480 And it just kind of bothers me that, you know, these shows 405 00:29:52.920 --> 00:30:00.000 get a lot of you know, excitement hoopla generated from nothing more than yeah, 406 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.279 they're nothing more than you know, buzz and camera tricks and what would 407 00:30:03.319 --> 00:30:08.000 you guys do? And you know Alex's much difference. Alex addressed this in 408 00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:11.960 the new episode of Dark Coast where he basically, you know, we were 409 00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.279 out there for fourteen days and some interesting stuff happened, but nothing mind blowing 410 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.000 or earth shattering, and he basically says like, yeah, you know, 411 00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:23.759 it's it's a shame we're out there putting in in the work. And then, 412 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.279 you know, these shows that dramatize things, you know, they get 413 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:32.720 all the attention and the the fame and the and the you know, the 414 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:37.119 viewers, and they condition people to think that something's supposed every time I turn 415 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.759 my camera on and I'm out in the woods, something squatch He's supposed to 416 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:44.480 happen. And that's not the case at all. I Mean, most of 417 00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:45.440 the times I go out, I camp, I have a good time, 418 00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.720 I come home, nothing happens. You know. Another time I might go 419 00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:52.519 out and camp and I might hear one or two woodenknocks and nothing for the 420 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.119 rest of the time. I mean, it's just that's how it goes. 421 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.519 It's not it's not all squatch action all the time. And I think shows 422 00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:04.640 you know that that's probably more appropriate. Baker. Big Foot's like a fishing 423 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:10.000 show. You know, well it is because you think about it that you 424 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.279 get five minutes. There's a red snapper, five minutes more, there's a 425 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:17.440 trout five minutes that was like twelve hours in a boat and then sitting there 426 00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.799 scratching each other and drinking beer. Okay, well, and like Cops too, 427 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.240 Cops has edited all hell because you know, they don't show you the 428 00:31:25.240 --> 00:31:30.359 three hours the guys drove around with nothing going on. Yeah, well, 429 00:31:30.400 --> 00:31:33.519 it depends on which city. Though, let's be fair, some of that's 430 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.240 probably pretty accurate. You know, they just do Wilkespur Yeah, wolf On, 431 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:42.480 Yeah, that's on the news show. And then Cops was ray up 432 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:48.920 the road from us in Heazleton and yeah, they actually they actually told him 433 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:53.880 to shut it down because it was speaking the tail looks so bad. That 434 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.119 doesn't take a lot of effort, and it takes long for them to get 435 00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:01.960 footage right. But you know, to the main point we were making, 436 00:32:02.039 --> 00:32:07.119 like it's not sexy and it takes a lot of effort and patience, and 437 00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:09.519 it's frustrating. You know, how have you dealt with the frustration with some 438 00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.799 of this? Larry, you go out, you spend all this time and 439 00:32:13.960 --> 00:32:17.160 you know, twenty years or more. I've been doing the field research thirty 440 00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:22.440 years or more. I've been really into this story, and we're no closer. 441 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:23.839 You know, maybe we are, and I just don't give us enough 442 00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:27.519 credit. We are getting closer to solving the mystery, but we're still so 443 00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.519 far away. How don't deal with that? I make therapy memes you do 444 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.839 between you and Matt Knapp. Half my morning is looking at I mean, 445 00:32:37.880 --> 00:32:42.160 working, is half the mornings working. The other half is looking at memes 446 00:32:42.200 --> 00:32:47.079 that these guys post. It's pretty good shit. Well, speaking of pretty 447 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.920 good shit, we do have to take a moment for the news vance Nesbitt 448 00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:53.079 with the bigfoot bullhorn folks, We're going to give you a few minutes. 449 00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.720 Smoke them if you got them, we'll be right back. Stretch your legs, 450 00:32:55.759 --> 00:32:59.319 do whatever you got to do, Sasquatch experience. Sean Forker, James 451 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:04.119 Baker, Mattarn't and Remay Vincenz But and Larry Beans back, sir, we'll 452 00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:12.160 catch you up right after. This news team a symbol. There's this guy 453 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.759 on YouTube might watch all the time and he sees bigfoot and he's a redneck. 454 00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.599 He's a self proclaimed redneck too. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. 455 00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:22.359 I'm just saying that's what he is, right, Because who else is 456 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.200 gonna see bigfoot when you think about it, right? No, Like, 457 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:29.960 it's never like somebody that's been to Harvard or Brown or Yale or Princeton. 458 00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:32.119 They have a degree in a bigfoot store. They always want to talk about. 459 00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:36.839 You know, nobody's ever been like my driver and I were in my 460 00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:42.440 Lexus and a large bipedal beast leapt out in front of us. I nearly 461 00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:51.200 lost my monocle. Nobody's ever lost a monoca looking for bigfoots. It's never 462 00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:52.799 that guy. It's always a redneck type like guy. He was at my 463 00:33:52.839 --> 00:33:59.920 bird feeder. I said, get bigfoot. Ah, yes, snirky, 464 00:34:00.559 --> 00:34:05.599 I remember when comedy was funny. Well, a happy Monday night to you 465 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:09.719 all. This is the big football horn right here on the Sasquatch experience. 466 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:15.920 And of course we are in full swing of the get fat and sassy season. 467 00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:21.480 I guess the goal is not to become as large and smelly as Michael 468 00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.559 Moore Speaking to Michael Moore. A herd of followers are tracking a moose on 469 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:31.840 the loose in southern Minnesota. Hoping the majestic animal's journey ends safely after it 470 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:38.199 was spotted last Tuesday one hundred and forty miles northwest of Minneapolis. Fans have 471 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:44.599 been tracking the young male moose for weeks and posting updates on a Facebook page 472 00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:50.880 that as of Tuesday, had eighteen thousand followers. Admirers call the animal get 473 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:57.760 this bullwinkle or rut, the latter in homage to the scatterbrain moose from the 474 00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:01.960 movie Brother Bear. I haven't seen that one now. A Minnesota Department of 475 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:08.679 Natural Resources big game expert told the Minnesota Star Tribune that moose typically only roman 476 00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:15.039 northern Minnesota, making the now famous moose visit to south and central Minnesota a 477 00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:21.800 rare treat. Todd Froberg, the agency's big Game program coordinator, said the 478 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.880 young moose is likely looking for home, territory or other moose and is expected 479 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.760 to continue moving north. He's lost and he's trying to get home to his 480 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:37.000 family, said Bernie Stang, a moose fan who spotted the animal in late 481 00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:43.519 October. Amateur moose tracker Brenda Johnson said traffic on the Facebook page, of 482 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:47.000 which she is the administrator, picked up in September when the moose was spotted 483 00:35:47.000 --> 00:35:53.639 in Iowa, near the border of Minnesota. She suspects Rut or the moose 484 00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:00.599 traveled from North Dakota through South Dakota and Iowa before coming back to Minnesota, 485 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:06.840 based on news reports of moose sightings in South Dakota that matched his description. 486 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:14.480 Now Danielle Magnuson began searching for the moose last month as a distraction from stressors 487 00:36:14.519 --> 00:36:17.119 in her life. This is why we call the big football horn the big 488 00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:22.480 distraction. She spent several days a week searching before she finally found him on 489 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:29.199 November thirteenth near Sock Center. It was almost like seeing a bigfoot, Magnuson 490 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.920 said. Now, she didn't say that, she said unicorn. They're just 491 00:36:32.000 --> 00:36:37.280 really beautiful animals and we don't get a chance to see them around our area. 492 00:36:37.159 --> 00:36:42.760 Stang said seeing Rut was especially touching for her twenty six year old daughter, 493 00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:45.760 Holly Stang, who had never seen a moose before. She said, 494 00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:52.519 Holly Stang first named the creature Rut. This moose has brought so much joy 495 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:59.280 to so many people and so much hope, Bernie Stang said, because most 496 00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:05.559 people in their lifetime never get to see a Moose said Larry Bean's Baxter never 497 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:17.239 when we come back a revisited interview, you're listening to the Sasquatch experience. 498 00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.519 This portion of the show is being brought to you by Honest Ed's Used Cars, 499 00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.199 where every car we sell is back by an ironclad guarantee that is so 500 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.320 complete and comprehensive that we really don't see any need to put it in writing. 501 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:45.440 And remember Honest Ed's motto. If any used car dealer anywhere in the 502 00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:49.000 country says he can sell you the same car cheaper than we will, then 503 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.840 he's even a bigger liar than I am. 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Get the look I'm shaving 513 00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:37.199 that, John Lukeluk on Star Trek The Next Generation, weekdays at four on 514 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:49.159 Channel six. So a few years ago I had Dunwood Sean coined as Man 515 00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:53.480 on the Street interview with some people that I know and some people that I 516 00:38:53.639 --> 00:39:02.400 just have acquaintances with reguarding the subject of bigfoot and what's your opinion? So 517 00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:09.440 the following its two people's opinion? What's your take on bigfoot? I actually 518 00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.559 saw one in my backyard the other day. Did you get it taken down 519 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:19.159 to this deer? It was just rhythm, its handlers off, trying to 520 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.760 eat it. It was just horrible. Wow, there was blood everywhere because 521 00:39:22.920 --> 00:39:28.480 dog came out in the bigfoot bad way, like he was nothing. This 522 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:32.039 thing was tough like dogs. It was Harry. First I thought it was 523 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.960 my wife. She wouldn't be tearing the antlers off the deer. No, 524 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:43.320 she'd just go out there with the knee ACKs and head off. Oh that's 525 00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:47.039 great. What's your take on do you think there is such a creature or 526 00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:52.159 it's easy. I think it could exist. Yeah, I haven't seen one, 527 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:57.000 but that doesn't mean it's not real. Oh that's a great answer. 528 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:02.000 But I love the fact that you saw in your backyard. So what's your 529 00:40:02.039 --> 00:40:09.320 take on Bigfoot? Real? Not real? Interesting? Okay, it's interesting. 530 00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:14.800 What's your personal opinion? You think it's all? I think? I 531 00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:22.000 used to work for him. Stop, I'm serious. I'm sure you probably 532 00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.320 think you did. No, and it's serious. If you were to go 533 00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:30.519 out into you know, great Northwest or into Florida or into Montana. I 534 00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:38.039 know him Bigfoot personally. His name's Biggieman. Yeah. Wow, see I'm 535 00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:43.639 asking him the same question. What's his take on Bigfoot? I used to 536 00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.760 work for him at National Tractor Parts. Oh he's even mentioned the names. 537 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.079 That's even better. Real or not real? Always real? No? No, 538 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:57.880 not satirical. No, seriously, his Biggie Man. That's that's his 539 00:40:57.960 --> 00:41:00.480 real name. People don't know him personally like I do. Well, what 540 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:06.880 about Sasquatch or YETI his family? Boy? Thanks again for listening to this 541 00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.559 edition of Big Football Horn exclusively on the Sasquatch experience, and until next time, 542 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:25.639 keep those toes in the mud. Again, Van's proving the theory of 543 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:32.079 morphic resonance. Correct, assholes do attract assholes. So well done that one 544 00:41:32.199 --> 00:41:35.960 vance. Where do you find those idiots? Where do you work with them? 545 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.360 It's an associated thing and I'll just leave it at that. Gotcha. 546 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:45.920 Here you go, guys, speaking of moose. First, I thought it 547 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:52.880 was a pop so I like to practice. If I find some in my 548 00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:54.960 yard, I'll just cast them. Mm hmm. This is pretty cool. 549 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.320 And there's actually I don't think you'll be able to see it on the camera, 550 00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:06.760 but there's actually a hair sticking out right there. So but yeah, 551 00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:09.159 this is a loose track that I cast that I found in my in my 552 00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:12.960 yard a couple of years ago, just to keep you know, keep in 553 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:22.280 practice and cast something well like I sent in the in our little private group. 554 00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.760 Sasquatch rides on the back of a moose. That's why there's such a 555 00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:35.679 lack of tracks of sas It rides like a horse like a cowboy. Well, 556 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.360 you know, I think it's great that you keep your skills sharp. 557 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:44.800 Do you have a particular favorite type of material you used to cast for prints? 558 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:49.079 Not really, uh, you know, the most readily available I can 559 00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:52.159 get up here is a plaster of Paris, and it's not really the best, 560 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:58.039 but it's what I can get and get in large quantities. But that's 561 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.719 that's usually what I carry around with me. I need to get some like 562 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:05.360 hydro col or something a little bit better, but especially the plaster of Paris. 563 00:43:05.360 --> 00:43:08.639 It's it's it's cheap, it comes in a large quantity, and it's 564 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.199 you know, it's a good, a good substance you can you can train 565 00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:19.159 with mm HM and Matt usually keeps an abundant amount on him usually when we 566 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.760 go to conferences and yes, yeah, you know it likes to bring it 567 00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:28.960 out like it's bricks of cocaine and put it on the table. I found 568 00:43:29.000 --> 00:43:36.039 a footprint and it's sketchers. I don't care, it's a footprint. I 569 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:39.039 have my friend kit. It was set up with a bag, a sealed 570 00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:44.400 bag with a water bottle already there. You know. It was kind of 571 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:47.599 like the searchy kit that you get that has the water bottle, the you 572 00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:52.400 know, the plaster and all sealed up. Well. I made my own 573 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:59.679 and unfortunately, the the glad uh reseal bags I had weren't really one sealable 574 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:08.239 and next thing, I know, there was powder all over the the UH 575 00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:13.719 and d It was great. I got great. I got excited when I 576 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.280 saw the searchy with the packs with the water bladder in it. Yes, 577 00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.559 and I realized I thought about it, and I'm like, that would that 578 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:23.280 would last in my backpack for about ten minutes and then it would probably just 579 00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:30.239 go everywhere. Yeah, exactly exactly. So that just goes to prove that 580 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:35.800 Matt's prepared anywhere we go at a moment's notice. The cast of print. 581 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.920 Yeah, I do keep a little forensics BacT with me anyways for work, 582 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:44.679 and a lot of stuff that I that I used for work. You know, 583 00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.920 I'll I'll get replicants of that that I can have in my UH in 584 00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.639 my field research bag. So you know, it's something you know, and 585 00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:59.239 it keeps up. I'll tell you Larry. When I saw Larry doing the 586 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:05.079 anal basically, well not the analysis, but doing the collection. Yes, 587 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.880 the collection of the it's been a long day, I'm sorry. The collection 588 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:14.599 of the of the DNA and the h and the handprint. I was super 589 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:17.559 super like. Everything that we did, everything that I've been trained to do, 590 00:45:17.800 --> 00:45:23.400 was everything that Larry did. And again bringing that that type of skill 591 00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:30.320 set out in the field is extraordinary, whether you're doing wildlife research or if 592 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:35.400 you're doing forensics as well. It's something I think that a lot of researchers, 593 00:45:36.119 --> 00:45:40.320 you know, they should look into evidence collection. It's a fascinating field. 594 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:45.039 Yeah, it's it's kind of we hear somebody say like, oh, 595 00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:46.920 I I found this and I picked it up and then it sat in my 596 00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:52.079 closet for you know, six months, or in my garage during the summer, 597 00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.239 and yeah, it's probably whatever it was, it is probably long degraded. 598 00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:01.360 Yes, yes, you know, Larry, with that most print that 599 00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.320 you just showed everybody, And I understand in the podcast version you're not going 600 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.480 to be able to see it from what I'm seeing. I'm just guesstimating now. 601 00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:19.239 I'm guesstimating from what you just showed us in the video format, probably 602 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:30.280 somewhere between four hundred and fifty and five hundred pounds. I would probably say 603 00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:34.440 a little bit more than that. Yeah, this was, if I remember 604 00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.880 correctly, it was it was a mother and a cat, well not a 605 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.280 calf, but a yearling. And I believe that's the mother's footprint, and 606 00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:44.920 it was later in the summer, so she had started to fatten up a 607 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:50.039 little bit, so she was she was probably on the probably on between five 608 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:54.800 six hundred pounds. Wow. And of course I understand it depends on what 609 00:46:55.000 --> 00:47:00.519 the environment of the earth is at the time when which it laid at print 610 00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.559 down. I don't know how moist the ground was, and this all is 611 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:10.320 relevant to casting footprints of a big foot. It all depends on how soft 612 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:15.920 the ground is from moisture and how deep that footprint would go down, and 613 00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:21.039 you're trying to guestimate what the weight would be. But yeah, that's a 614 00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:23.400 pretty sizable print that you showed. Well, like out of area A. 615 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:27.880 You know, we found some impressions in the ground and I'm not a little 616 00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.920 guy, and I'll step on it, you know, step up and down, 617 00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.199 and I can't leave an impression in that substrate. So I'm like, 618 00:47:35.239 --> 00:47:38.719 what the hell was what could leave the impression here? Right? I think 619 00:47:38.719 --> 00:47:42.920 in the last day we got to see you and al you, Alex and 620 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:49.639 Rebecca really kind of show that where where there was something found, you know, 621 00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:53.000 like it was it was you know, it wasn't conclusive that you could 622 00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:57.760 say it was a it was a footprint, but you found impressions that were 623 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.599 really I mean, you know, when I saw him on the video, 624 00:48:01.679 --> 00:48:06.559 I was like, wow, you know, I mean those kind of look 625 00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:09.480 you know, they're around the same dimension. When you were out there with 626 00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.800 the with the way the vegetation is and everything, were you able to actually 627 00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:21.920 see toe separation? No? Not not in that like mossy spongy. There 628 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:27.119 has been some some towed tracks found around the cabin where some dirt was dug 629 00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.239 up. Robroy has a cast that they actually did in like spray insulation that 630 00:48:31.320 --> 00:48:37.280 they found they had dug an outhouse and in the pile of dirt they had 631 00:48:37.360 --> 00:48:43.159 dug for the hole in the outhouse, there was a five toad track found 632 00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:47.920 in that dirt and they had they didn't have this is you know, they 633 00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.599 were just kind of starting in on the big Foot thing. It wasn't really 634 00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.280 like, oh, maybe we should have some supplies and stuff out here now. 635 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:57.760 And all they had was like spray insulation foam, so they that's what 636 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.559 they used to cast it. But yeah, yeah, you know, it's 637 00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.320 it's not a lot of areas, you know, the beaches real rocky. 638 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:06.719 There's not it's not a sandy beach. And then once you get into the 639 00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:09.920 woods, it's all that spongy moss. You know, there's just not a 640 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:16.639 lot of places around there where you could find a good track that would show 641 00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:30.039 definition And like toes can't hear you at fork? Why because I muted myself 642 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.199 when I coughed. Matt set us up for a good question there. And 643 00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:38.280 it's one of the things I think is frustrating here is the different types of 644 00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:45.239 vegetation and soil substrates that make it very difficult to cast footprints. Do you 645 00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:50.719 find that a lot up in area A that it's going to be more difficult 646 00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:53.360 to capture prints just because of the different types of terrain that are there in 647 00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:57.239 that area. Yeah. And in fact, you know, most of the 648 00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:04.840 areas that I've researched in Alaska, they all seem to have that that substrate 649 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.199 in common. It's always seems like it's a spongy, mossy area, maybe 650 00:50:07.199 --> 00:50:12.639 near a marsh or a river or something like that. It seems like that's 651 00:50:12.679 --> 00:50:15.360 where they like to hang out. I don't know if it's because they're aware 652 00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:20.400 of how concealing that ground can be, or if it's just coincidence that whatever 653 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:25.320 they like to do is near that that type of ground, but Porch Chatham 654 00:50:25.480 --> 00:50:30.000 very similar, you know, the rocky beach and then spongy, spongy substraight. 655 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:37.000 Yeah, it's just it's frustrating. I like to draw those comparisons just 656 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:38.280 because of you know, wheld our listeners are coming from. I know, 657 00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:42.840 it's something that Matt and I have talked about. Ad nauseum is the big 658 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.079 frustration of half the reason we can't good get prints is because either it's rocky 659 00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:51.400 soil or we've got moss you know everywhere. Now, doctor Meldrum did show 660 00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:55.760 us a time or two that that spray foam insulation's a great substitute if you're 661 00:50:55.760 --> 00:51:00.000 going to have an area where it's you know, you may not be conduced 662 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.119 to use plaster. But you don't get that detail either. You get with 663 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.679 the you know, with the pouring plaster. You don't get those what the 664 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:12.719 dermal ridges are, which is something I think people have stopped talking about more 665 00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.440 recently. When it's come to prints. You don't have the dissertations on dermal 666 00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:20.599 ridges anymore like you were having there for you know, months and years at 667 00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:22.559 a time. Yeah, I mean that was a big thing twenty years ago. 668 00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:27.400 As dermam ridges. Now we're talking about e DNA and you know, 669 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.280 new different ways to collect when you were out and Alaska to do the opportunity 670 00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:37.159 to try to do any e DNA collection techniques, I've looked into it. 671 00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.440 There's a there's a lake near Port Chatham that I want to get up to 672 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:45.400 and I want to try and take DNA samples from, but it's pretty pricey, 673 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:46.719 I think to get the equipment to do it. I'm sure maybe in 674 00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:52.559 the next few years it'll come down to a more affordable apparatus that I can 675 00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:55.320 I can buy and lug up there. I think it's actually like there's a 676 00:51:55.360 --> 00:52:00.480 pump with a bunch of different filters and stuff that come with that. So 677 00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:05.119 it's definitely on my radar, but it's not something that I've tried yet. 678 00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.440 That the handprint that we found on the cabin it actually had some pretty defined 679 00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.159 dermal ridges on it, and Doug Hichek has sent that off. I guess 680 00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.280 it is hopefully being tested as we speak. I don't know when we'll get 681 00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:20.639 the results on that, but I'm waiting with baita Bread at that talk about 682 00:52:20.639 --> 00:52:22.320 that for just a little bit there. Larry for folks who may not be 683 00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:27.679 too familiar with the handprint. So Alex was out at the cabin I think 684 00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.519 I believe this was last year, and he on the back of the cabin 685 00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:39.360 he found a real large, greasy handprint, almost like a whitish film, 686 00:52:39.679 --> 00:52:43.719 like you know, you hear a lot of people talk about the what's it 687 00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:47.960 called, like the album Varnix or something like that. And he called me 688 00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:52.719 out and asked if I would come and swab it for DNA. And so 689 00:52:52.760 --> 00:52:54.800 it took me a little There was some weather. It took me a little 690 00:52:54.800 --> 00:52:57.800 bit to get out there. I wasn't able to get out there like right 691 00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.880 away. But even by the time I showed up, like it was still 692 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:02.559 visible. It had started to fade a little bit, but not to the 693 00:53:02.599 --> 00:53:07.519 point where you couldn't see it with your naked eye. And then so I 694 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:12.639 documented it, took photos, took some pictures, I took some video. 695 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.920 I threw some mobile gliding on it, which I'm sure Matt's familiar with, 696 00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.440 which made it kind of pop and you could see it a lot better. 697 00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:22.039 And then I swabbed it. I took I think I believe it was two 698 00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:25.840 swabs from each finger and two from the palm, and I use the capture 699 00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:29.880 swabs, which I'm a big fan of, which had the little plastic has 700 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:32.119 a little plastic cap at the top that you can open up and slide down, 701 00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:36.599 and then after you swab your whatever, you can pull a little top 702 00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:38.679 up and close it and it protects that swab. I'm a big fan of 703 00:53:38.679 --> 00:53:44.400 those, and we sent them off to Doug Hicheck and he has sent them 704 00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:46.639 off. I assume it's part of his legend Meet Science to documentary that he's 705 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:52.039 making that He's collected quite a bit of evidence that he sent off for that, 706 00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:54.880 and I'm hoping to get the results for that here pretty quick. And 707 00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:00.760 you know, I don't understand. I mean, it's either human or it's 708 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.199 it's bigfoot. There's no I don't think there's really any any in between. 709 00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.039 And I don't see how it could be human. The placement of it. 710 00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:10.599 It was actually right out about my head height was about five to eleven six 711 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:17.239 footish and it was right on the other side of a large water tank for 712 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:21.960 the cabin. So for somebody, for a person to put that there, 713 00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:28.079 they would have had to basically lean over that water tank and put their hand 714 00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:34.480 like up about six foot in height and then have something on their hands that 715 00:54:34.559 --> 00:54:42.920 would leave a shiny, whitish stain that that persisted for over a week them 716 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:46.599 right, that's what does Yeah, and Doug has been when we had him 717 00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.440 on the show. You know, he's putting a lot of eggs in that 718 00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:54.079 basket that it's pretty remarkable that, you know, we've got something new to 719 00:54:54.079 --> 00:55:00.760 try to test and collect and examine. And there's been some pretty good samples 720 00:55:00.920 --> 00:55:04.119 of that collected. Like you were just telling us about the handprint, there's 721 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.199 been some in in some other places that he was telling you that the folks 722 00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:09.800 can go back and check out that episode with Doug high check. It was 723 00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:16.119 really really good episode with him. But I'm just excited to see what this 724 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:22.239 is going. Is there anything you didn't get to do that you need to 725 00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.960 do That's like Larry's like, I got to get on this and I got 726 00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:29.480 to do this as soon as possible. Oh geez, I mean, I 727 00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:30.920 just I want to get back out there and just spend some more. I 728 00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:37.920 would like to set that blind up and maybe just let it set for a 729 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.000 few weeks and then get back out there and just maybe set in that blind 730 00:55:42.039 --> 00:55:47.199 is overnight with some thermal and a recorder and stuff going, and or maybe 731 00:55:47.239 --> 00:55:52.320 just leave some stuff in it unmanned while it's running and you see what happens. 732 00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:57.719 But yeah, I'm just really excited to continue to get out there and 733 00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:02.719 just see what I can see. It's amazing place. I can't really explain 734 00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:07.280 the lack of activity other than maybe the novelty, either the novelty of the 735 00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:10.199 cabin has worn off, or maybe they're making a circuit around the area and 736 00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:13.719 they just haven't got back that way. You know, they may be a 737 00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:17.639 food source, you know, two coves away that they're really into this time 738 00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:22.519 of year or something. I don't know, but you know, I can't 739 00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.519 I can't deny the I mean, I've heard some some of the Christmas knocks 740 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:29.079 I've ever heard out there. I heard vocalizations, you know, I've seen 741 00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.800 the tracks that Rob Roy and those guys have collected, and it's just I 742 00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:36.440 think, you know, if there, if they would be anywhere, they 743 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:42.679 would be there. There. You have it, guys, this hour's gone 744 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.639 already. We've blown it right through it. We've got to get Larry back 745 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.719 again for another episode of this a little bit down the line. Thanks so 746 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.480 much for spending some time with us. Larry, appreciate it. What's next 747 00:56:52.599 --> 00:56:53.880 for you? Any new projects that you got going on? They're going to 748 00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:59.079 be coming out? Oh geez. Uh, I'm working on my fourth book, 749 00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.280 which is not Bigfoot or Cryptid related at all. I'm gonna try something 750 00:57:01.280 --> 00:57:06.000 a little different. It's gonna be coming out next spring. And then. 751 00:57:06.119 --> 00:57:09.039 Uh, I don't know. I've always got something going on, just either 752 00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.719 getting out in the field or doing a video with somebody. I've been hanging 753 00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:15.760 out with Chuke from Chukes Outdoor Adventures. He's a cool guy up here in 754 00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:20.719 Alaska. But yeah, that's uh. I always got, always got something 755 00:57:20.760 --> 00:57:22.079 going on. You just got to check out a Last Watch podcast dot com 756 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:28.639 to find out dot com Go ahead, man, I I just want to 757 00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:34.920 one ask one last question here. What would it take Larry to get me 758 00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:40.199 Sean and James and Henry in dance too if they want out to Area A 759 00:57:40.400 --> 00:57:45.679 with you to we'd have to talk to the owner a little bit. I'm 760 00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:47.679 not the travel agent for Area A, so I get a lot of people 761 00:57:47.679 --> 00:57:50.280 asking me to go out there, and I'm like, oh, we got 762 00:57:50.280 --> 00:57:52.679 to talk to the owner. I just it's kind of up to him if 763 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:55.440 he feels like, you know, you guys would would have a good time 764 00:57:55.480 --> 00:58:00.400 out there and not you know, you just got to pass his vie check. 765 00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:05.719 I guess I think James would be our key for everything. So I 766 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:12.199 hope he doesn't charge per pound or we're screwed. We're gonna need a couple 767 00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:16.199 of rascal we're gonna need. And on that note, folks, you've been 768 00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:20.679 listening to The Sasquatch Experience. Sean Forker, James Baker, Matt Arner, 769 00:58:20.719 --> 00:58:24.599 Henry may Vance Nesbit and Larry Baxter. Henry take us home with those dulcet 770 00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:30.480 tones. You'll be good, be good. We'll see you next time, 771 00:58:30.559 --> 00:58:34.480 folks, next week, we'll be back. Good night, everybody. Keep 772 00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:45.679 on squatching. You almost forgot that one. You've been listening to Sasquatch Experience. 773 00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:50.880 Please rate, interview whatever this podcast is consumed. 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