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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, that's

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a step hit on stay lot f
goshoo. Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier

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and Victor noon Yo Fantasy and Hockey
Live back once again to talk about the

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wonderful world of dynasty. Fantasy Hockey. Is me Jesse Severe of fan Tracks

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and Victor noon Yo of DABB Prospects. How you doing, Victor? I'm

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doing awesome, Jesse, definitely enjoying
some pretty hot weather out here. Has

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it been hot where you are?
No? Well, you had some heat,

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we had some kind of misery midweek, and now the cool has broken

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through and we're back to some decent
weather here in late Wisconsin July. But

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the summers it's winded down. The
summer is going fast here, Victor.

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I don't care for this at all. It's gonna be freaking cold and desolate

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looking out there before before I can
talk. And why am I looking forward

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to the negative here? I don't
know, but that's just how I'm wired.

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It just never happens in California,
right, you just have like glorious

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weather you're around like you're in a
dome or something. It's pretty glorious,

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I would say. But it definitely
has been pretty hot, a little unusual,

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especially those of us near the coast. But it also is not nothing

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to complain about, so we're good
and yeah, definitely happy with that.

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Although I did spend a week up
in the mountains and it was like a

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hundred degrees and it was super not
fun for that part, But then we

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were hanging out in the lakes and
the rivers and it was there were still

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snow. We were playing disc golf
actually at Kirkwood, Jesse, and there

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were mounds of snow in July.
It was crazy. I didn't my brain

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didn't understand it. But the kids
making snow men. It was mostly icy

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snow, but trying to make snow
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It was weird. So you're telling
me you were in a mountain with

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one hundred degree heat and snow,
Victor Nut. There's something that doesn't compute

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about all this man tell me about
it. Parts these parts that had snow

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still were shady, and that part
was not a hundred. It was more

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like eighty eight or eighty seven degrees
still pretty hot, but yeah, no,

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there was definitely big mounds of snow
in the shade. It was crazy.

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It was actually great because it was
so hot. I was just like

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taking the snow and just like rubbing
it all over my head and stuff.

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It was cooling down. It was
a really nice way to cool down when

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it's that hot out. I highly
recommend it. California. California's Yeah,

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the California's drunk. There's something wrong
up there, Victor. One thing that

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is not wrong. One place that
you'll always be able to find cool in

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wonderful climbs, in an environment amenable
too fun is our discord server. All

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you have to do to join up
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at fan Hockey Life is me at Victor

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Nuno twelve is Victor at the dead
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hold of us at present and there
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going on every day in there,
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people are looking forward to the upcoming
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their way into leagues. There's all
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a site where people can find their
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lost some people, start new leagues, if they're looking for people. There's

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very few places, it seems like, out in the world where you can

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have those types of interactions. And
again it's all free. But if you

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want to support, if you want
to do some things beyond that, Victor,

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the Patreon is a great opportunity to
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Why don't you tell people what is
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do let me pause real quick for
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great stuff going on at the Patreon. We have patron Cast going on.

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We have Top ten lesson you can
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gotta get on that I was taking
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Priority Channel. You can read our
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You can have draft advice a lot
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drafts. You can feel free to
do dm me if it's a perk that

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I reserve for patrons, and the
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we have set up and we're rolling
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things a little bit. It's gonna
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four at the end of at the
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gonna be a really great time.
There's a lot of information about it.

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We definitely could use a few more
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competition to the next level, it's
I would highly recommend you check it out.

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And if you want to see something
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Do this type in www dot Fantasy
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t I d y and just see
what happens. I love it. Yeah,

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these are intense fantasy hockey players.
Don't feel like you have to be

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some kind of professional. Look,
this is it's not for a whole bunch

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of money. This is if you're
a patron. You play it, but

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you play it for the love of
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that people come in and check that
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It's just a whole lot of fun
and there's a whole lot of very

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good dynasty players and you meet a
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So I hope people will give that
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gonna give a try is we're gonna
take a break. Right now, come

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back with our guests. We welcome
to our show. A man from the

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Winnipeg Sun, ready to talk some
jets. Scott Billick, How you doing?

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Today's Scott doing good? Guys?
How are you guys doing good?

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Good? Are things sunny north of
the border? I assume you guys already

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have two feet of snow up in
Winnipeg at this point, right, No,

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it's actually quite nice right now.
I don't know what thirty is,

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thirty celsius is and fahrekneit. I
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something like that. I could be
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haven't you, and we usually have
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Essentially, we're in like the Prairie
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the summer like really hot. So
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summers, but they only last four
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and then yeah, we started getting
cooler and yeah, and then obviously,

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as you suggested earlier, the snow
starts coming and that's our that's our long

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extended winters. Yeah, hopefully something
that stays a little warmer and doesn't get

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colder and colder are the Winnipeg Jets. I'm a little worried about this era

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of the Jets, whether they have
hit a peak or and this is where

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I'm gonna have to get your opinion
on it. We've got a lot of

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changes coming for this year's team.
Pierre Luke Dawap, like Wheeler gone a

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season. After the season where Wheeler
lost the captaincy trade, rumors abound around

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the franchise goalie who we will be
getting to and there might be an argument

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from moving a couple more expirment contracts
if there's a risk that they aren't going

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to return. Last year, the
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the Central, but the Jets climbed
as the Preds, the Blues, and

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the Flames really fell through the floor. Lucisian's model showed the Jets way below

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all those teams at the beginning,
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they made the playoffs and we're the
first ground foil of the eventual Cup champs,

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the Vegas Golden Knights, who took
them down. Unfortunately, I should

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see. Unfortunately, I'm in my
show in my hand. There's a fair

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bit of handwringing at the end of
last year. I saw in the press

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up there over a slight sag in
ticket sales down to fourteen thousand from fifteen

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three or something like that. But
where are the Winnipeg Jets headed with their

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offseason moves? Is their risk we'll
see some of the better players on the

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team move this year or will the
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even in next year's playoffs. Yeah, I don't know if it would be

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a better seat in next year's playoffs, but that I think the moves that

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they made this offseason moving Pierre Wall
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We've seen that before with the Jets, with guys like Andrew Kaw, Jacob

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Schruba, even going all the way
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to look at it in a way
that, Okay, you weren't going to

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keep Dubas, so you get a
big return from La with Gabe Vilardi and

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Alexei Fellow. Rasmus Kompari is also
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pick next year. But you look
at that it changes the complexion of this

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team. One of the problems with
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that they've been very top heavy,
right and they've had very good two top

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six, two top lines. The
top six has been very good, but

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the problem with their bottom six is
that they just aren't right. Like they

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just they don't produce. They can't
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They can't really rely on the fourth
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minutes a night. Changed a little
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wasn't enough. So this trade,
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them. If you look at four
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it's deeper, and so that's good
for the Jets. Now. The

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problem is you've just you've subtracted it. Blake Wheeler obviously it was thirty sixty

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be thirty seven at the end of
this month, but he was still putting

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up a point essentially a point per
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times undefeated, and he was losing
that battle of starting to at least had

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been for the last couple of years. But Dubo is a big loss because

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you've lost your second line center arguably
your top line center, depending on how

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you look at last season how it
ended with Mark Schifley kind of on the

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wing for a little while. So
that's a big blow. And there's a

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guy who scored almost thirty goals last
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I think sixty five somewhere in that
range for Dubois. You're taking that out

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of the roster or the lineup.
You're taking Wheeler's fifty five points out of

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the roster. So that's difficult.
This Gabe val already gonna make up for

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that. Is Alexiofalo going to make
up? Do they need to make up

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for that completely? If this team
is better defensively, which has been a

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big spur in their saddle, because
that's often been the big critique of this

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team is, yeah, they have
all of the offense in the world that

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you could ask for, but they
just don't have the defense. And they

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have the all world goaltending and Connor
hallibut, it's hard to say are they

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going to be better, are they
going to be worse? Are they going

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to be better because Blake Wheeler's out
of the equation now. One of the

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problems with Blake Wheeler was They took
away this captaincy from him last year,

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but he was still the de facto
captain that was made known at the end

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of the season by many of the
players, So they didn't really change anything.

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You stripped somebody the captain see or
hoping something changes, it didn't have.

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Still Blake Wheeler's room been a bit
of a dark cloud with Blake Wheeler

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in the last couple of years.
It's just always been his room and it's

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been difficult for a lot of the
younger guys, the younger leaders on this

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team. It's lurish. It's interesting
because there's gonna be like this moral change

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in the room that this kind of
shift in leadership and that sort of thing,

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and there's just a lot of these
unknown variables that you don't how it's

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actually going to affect the team moving
forward. I think there's positives here that

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other guys will be able to step
up into leadership roles. But on the

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ice, like just the caliber of
the team has gotten somewhat worse with losing

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two players that put up over a
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one hundred sort one hundred and twenty
points combined. So that's where there's a

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lot of unknowns about the Jets is
here and we still don't know and we'll

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talk about it. What happens with
Mark Schifley still a month and a half

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to go till the training camp,
and what about Connor Hellbock. I lose

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Connor Hellibuck, the whole complexion of
this team changes because Connor Hallibuck, regardless

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often have how this team plays puts
them into at least the conversation of a

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bubble team in the playoff, in
the playoff race, and and so that

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that's where we're at. We're waiting
and seeing it's been very quiet, and

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we all know the trade market and
we have these big trades done on Sunday

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here with Eric Carlson moving and that
all that stuff going on, but the

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market for Schifley and even Connor Hellibuck
based on the flat app both guys looking

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for significant races from their current contracts. It's been difficult as they're a year

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out from unrestricted free agency to try
and trade these guys. And then the

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teams aren't lining up as I think
the Jets kind of expected they might this

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summer, and so that's thrown a
wrench into perhaps this overhaul of the culture

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and the just a team at the
ice every night. So we're yeah,

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over here in Winnipeg. It seems
like everybody's in just this bit of a

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state of kind of flux, right, are just waiting to see what's going

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to happen, because it's looking more
and more like Shifely and Hellibuck are going

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to actually start the year with the
team and then see where it goes.

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But that creates its own problems,
And wouldn't sin if you get to the

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trade deadline and these guys aren't going
to resign with your team and your teams

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let's stay in second place in the
Central Division. Do you cut bait because

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if you don't, you're going to
not get anything for them, or do

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you just go for it and a
team that needs the gate revenue you mentioned

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earlier about some of the woes and
ticket sales, and that's thing a deep

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playoff run which they didn't get last
season, losing in Vegas to five games.

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But that's good for business, right, But good for business, especially

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if we get to the trade deadline
and these guys are still on the team.

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The long term health of this team
would suggest you would want to trade

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guys like that and not go let's
say the Columbus route where you hold on

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to Bobrovski and you don't get anything
for them, and then you spend a

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couple of years figuring out where you
really are and trying to rebuild from that.

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And Yeah, the Jets are in
a spot that I don't want to

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call it precarious, but it's just
an interesting time. It's an interesting time

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because this summer was supposed to be
one of big change and it feels like

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the job is half done. And
that's where we are. It's August six

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when we're recording this, and and
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It's just waiting and seeing what's going
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to shift, Is something going to
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now, but what we're waiting for
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Yeah, right now, way through
the offices. Yeah, so let's

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talk about some of the guys who
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Kyle Connor, start of the team, he didn't quite hit the scoring

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heights of the prior year, but
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shots season with a power play point
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two games great times for US fantasy
folks. Second straight year, Connor led

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the team in scoring, and the
with or without your charts out there showed

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that he basically made every linemate better
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but tended to maybe drag them a
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this defense doesn't seem to be quite
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people leave. The Jets are did
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through his prime years, and he
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depth chart. Some of the other
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away, like you said, and
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offensive pedigree. So basically, it's
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point per game scoring type of game
with all the roster changes. It's a

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good question because who does he play
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season. I think one of the
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Jets in previous training camps because they've
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is that we know who's going to
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Dubois here, Kyle Connor him for
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helped in a couple of years ago
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think it was ninety three points that
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this franchise history, not obviously Jets
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zero. So we'll see, we'll
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Connor is that he's made these steps
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you mentioned that his offensive metrics and
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one thing about him he's turned into
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he was with Schiff, Lee and
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and it was his job to do
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that he can really kind of step
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this league and just showed his capability
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help him get there. And that's
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But you don't have Dubois this year, and so are they going to go

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with are they going to go back
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if Stifle is not here, And
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center. Gave Valardi obviously is in
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at a season of again unknowns with
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Shiflee and they played well before.
Again they always knocked against Kyle Connor and

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a lot of these guys on forward, at least in the top six,

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is just their defensive abilities. And
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the offensive zone, but the defensive
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this team. But I do think
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this team being as good as it
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thought, maybe the metrics aren't probably
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actually played better defensively than because I
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He's matured a ton in the last
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I sacrifice a few goals here,
maybe it'll help a few goals and be

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the defensive end to keep them out
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I'm interested again with a lot of
this stuff. I think Kyle Connor

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has just this his baseline's thirty goals, right, He's going to get your

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thirty goals. I think he's done
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seasons. It's something. It's a
it's a long streak. I don't that

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might have changed during one COVID year, but you don't. I'm not really

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counting that that shortened season. But
yeah, I think that he'll be as

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dangerous as he always is, a
focal point on the power play, all

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those things. But I'm just I'm
interested when training camp comes, where Rick

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Bonus sees him, who he's partnered
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somebody else like a Volarti or whatever
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going. Can the one thing about
Ky Connors how fast he is, his

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foot speed is descride. Everything is
elite, let's let's say, And I'm

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not sure cold Proffetti can keep up
with that. He's just not the He's

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not the speedy two way center that
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So it's a bit of a bit
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for sure, at the end of
the day, cal Connor is going to

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give you probably a point per game
average roughly around that. He's going to

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score thirty goals, so that's the
baseline. And if somebody else can help

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him unlock that potential fifty goal potential, it's their for him, right,

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It's just all going to depend on
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this team kind of views because they
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defensively last year as a team,
but that did sacrifice some offense. So

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it depends on does this new team, this new look top twelve all four

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lines, is it just an better
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defensively? And can they now stop
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to and just maybe start letting some
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be a little more creative. Let's
say. Yeah, so Mark Schifley,

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you mentioned him, he crossed over
the age thirty at the end of the

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season. He's got one year of
contract left with the team. His bash

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block splush shots plus hits is moderate
for a big time player like him,

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only two and a half shots in
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a hit. He dropped slightly below
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since twenty fifteen. Twenty sixteen,
even though he had a career high forty

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six goals. Does that mean luck
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I would say no. In the
evolving hockey stats era two thousand and

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seven to present, I ran a
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had at least ten thousand minutes on
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sixteen point eight is behind only Leon
dry Sidle in that time. The problem

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is the even strength assists. That's
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year. You worry about how the
exodus of talent around him is going to

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impact this. So Mark Schifley,
if he is back next year, how

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big of an impact can he have
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a big impact because it's a contract
year. The one thing about going into

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this year is that Streffley wants to
get paid, but he thinks that should

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get paid, which could be anywhere
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Being a center being that coveted center
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He's going to need a big year
and he's capable of that. One

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thing that you saw with Mark Schiffey
last year was he really bought in early

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on to what Rick Bonus was doing. And then summer along the line.

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This has happened with a few other
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almost like you just forgot that this
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player, and he wasn't interested anymore. We got to Carolina last year.

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I believe it was in March,
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way, he gets benched in that
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have been in March because it just
right up the trade deadline because they got

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a need a need a writer.
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gets benched along with Calconnor need a
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game and talk to the media.
And Shrefield was an a here and and

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he's he's the face of the franchise. He has been since they picked him

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the fourth the first pick when the
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it and then for about ten games
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that Mark Schifley would just disengaged and
wasn't interested in and really playing any part

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of the game that Rick Bonus wanted
the team to play, and that hindered

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his point total. Obviously, he
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didn't really stop his bull scoring because
he's still He's just so skilled, such

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an elite shot, so good on
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Like Mark Schaffey is one of those
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a lot of goals every year.
But forty clips and forty was the first

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time he had done that in his
career, and that is credit to Rick

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Bonus, except Mark forgot that was
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is going to come up knowing that
this is if he's back here, that

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it's his team now, Like he
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Deboa factor, him taking over his
top center KBA, essentially forcing Mark schify

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out to the wing. I don't
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I don't think really took to that
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the way that Mark handled that.
But this is the thing with Mark is

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like if you can keep him engaged. He's a really good players. Defensive

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player has always been suspect, but
his offensive abilities are just so good and

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when he wants to, he can
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good Mark Schify can be. Like, he can be an elite center that

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has game altering ability on the ice
when he wants to be. But when

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he doesn't want to be, when
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is and he finds himselves in these
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the last couple of years now where
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And I don't expect that this year. And the reason why is because it

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is a contract here. Somebody's gonna
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somebody else going forward, and he's
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You'll be I believe he'll be thirty
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He's going to need that contract and
that's when he's going to need it.

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And so I think he'll have a
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But it's interesting. Yeah, let's
go back to the Blake wheel.

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Moving on getting bought out by the
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at the end of the season,
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happen this summer. They need to
trade Blake, whether or get find the

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way away from Blake Whether's contract,
which they did through a buyout, and

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then he's trade Mark Scheiffel. The
way that Mark Schiffer handled the end of

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the season the last two years,
he's a questioned his future here and WINNI

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big. It doesn't seem like he's
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going into the summer, I think
that one of the big questions was okay,

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or one of the big things it
was okay. I think we all

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think that they're looking to trade Mark
Scheiffer because you got rid of I like

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to use this analogy. It was
cloudy with Mark Blake here, and now

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it's partly cloudy outside with just Mark
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It's not just sunny and win a
bag yet because they haven't moved on

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from Mark Schifley. So it's going
to be an interesting dynamic when he comes

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in because I think the relationship Riff
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strained. Rick Bonus is back this
year, are they able to mend fences

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and move on and even if it's
just I don't like you, but I

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respect you or whatever, it is, right that type of thing. Can

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both of these guys figure out their
figure out that if they work together it

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can be mutually beneficial for them.
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day, Mark's just going to have
to realize that if he wants a big

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contract, if he wants to move
on, move up from what he what

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he's making right now, he's going
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And so that could benefit the Jets
and whether I think it's going to benefit

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Jets on the ice, So I
think it could benefit the Jets at some

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point during the year if they do
we decided to trade him. But yeah,

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I think ideally, if we're talking
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I think if they could and they
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would have already traded Mark Shrefley has
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I said earlier, it's just the
market's not there for him. And I

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think now they're trying to shift to
Okay, if he's going to be around,

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how can we use them and how
can you know how can we extract

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the best of the Mark Schreifey,
and I think that's where the Jets stand

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right now. Nick Eiler is the
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and unfortunately, this speedy Dane only
played forty five games, missed six weeks

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with hernia on various upper body injuries. At the end of the season,

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he was clear to play by the
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think there should be any lingering issues. But he's obviously very good. He's

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got two years left at six million. He's someone who we've always wanted to

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have more of a role, at
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some of us there. But he
lost time on ice last season and his

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shot rains to win down. Unfortunately, he also shot a little bit below

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his career norm, So to me, this all hints at the fact that

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Eilers can do more. Scott,
So, what do you think we could

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expect from him this season, especially
as you're discussing all the things that might

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be moving around and changing in the
Winnipeg top six. I think you expect

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more from either, and partly because
Blake Wheeler's gone and a lot of this

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ties into that, and so you're
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a more consistent role, more consistent
minutes. I think it's one of the

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things that Rick Bone was figured out
by the end of the last year.

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The problem was he gets injured in
game two of that year of last season

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and he's out for almost most most
of the season. He played forty five

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games, but he missed half of
this season because of this. He had

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the sports hernia. Then he ended
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done to fix it. Just took
forever kind of to get that movement along

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as one of those injuries that just
it just wouldn't heal, and then they

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tried to wait and wait. But
when he plays me at thirty eight points

406
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,359
last year, twelve goals in those
forty two games, he really helped their

407
00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,519
power play later on in the season. It just he needs to co exist

408
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,720
with Mark Schifley on the power players. One of the things that those two

409
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,319
have just struggled to because they both
want to play the same spot. They

410
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,960
both want to come down off the
wall on the left side and do their

411
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000
thing, and that's just it.
Both of them can't do it, just

412
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,839
not how it works. But I
think Eilers has the potential, all the

413
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,480
potential in the world too to have
a great year. It just he forged

414
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,440
a pretty good partnership with Vladimano Mastokov. When the Messkov came here at the

415
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,039
trade deadline, that was that was
beneficial. I think we'll see him likely

416
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,400
with Messkov unless a Messico's not in
the top six, which is completely possible.

417
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:37,799
But I think there's Eilers as all
the potential worlds. You just go

418
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,880
stay healthy, and I think Rick
Bonus is going to have a better idea

419
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:47,160
in a second season how to really
deploy Nick Heelers and kind of work to

420
00:27:47,759 --> 00:27:51,680
Eilers's strengths, which speed, vision, playmaking, all those types of things.

421
00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:55,079
I think he's gonna have a much
better game plan with when it comes

422
00:27:55,079 --> 00:27:59,880
to Eilers. Awesome. Yeah,
the next guy we're gonna talk about,

423
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
we already mentioned him too. Cole
Profetti only played fifty one games upper body

424
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,400
injury February twenty fourth. Was expected
to miss about eight weeks, but wasn't

425
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,000
cleared until recently. He had forty
eight point pace, really nice step forward

426
00:28:12,039 --> 00:28:17,359
from his thirty two point pace in
eighteen games last season. Definitely not someone

427
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,359
who does a whole lot of hitting, blocking, and shooting, but he's

428
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:25,000
decent in that area and one left
when you're left at an injury level,

429
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:29,000
so really cheap until he becomes an
RFA. In twenty twenty four was really

430
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,480
quite good defensively. I think some
people wondered whether he could hang in the

431
00:28:32,599 --> 00:28:34,880
middle, and it certainly seemed like
he's on his way to proving that.

432
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,920
And obviously, as you mentioned,
with the space opened up PLD and Wheeler

433
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:42,039
gone, it seems like he's primed
to slide into that two see or maybe

434
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:45,400
even one see if Shiflee leaves.
What do you think we can expect from

435
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,599
Proffetti this season? Yeah, I
think he took some steps last year before

436
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,000
he got injured. I think the
biggest question mark is can Cold Proffetti stay

437
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:56,799
healthy. It's just two years in
a row where he's dealt with a significant

438
00:28:56,839 --> 00:29:00,960
injury, and they just need him
to get stronger, right, They need

439
00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:03,440
him to get a little bit quicker, but really they just need him get

440
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,400
more durable. And that's always a
tough thing for a smaller guy, especially

441
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,240
a smaller guy who might be tasked
to play center. And one thing that

442
00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,680
Kevin shovel. They have the GM
here said is they want to They want

443
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,359
to try Roffetti at center. That's
where they drafted him. Briffetti wants to

444
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,640
play there and they want if it's
like he's true to his word there.

445
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:26,559
You could see him at the second
line center this year or the potential,

446
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:27,640
as you said, the top line
center. I don't know if you'd go

447
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,920
right to top line, but you
could definitely see that. They's so smart.

448
00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:36,279
One thing about Cold Brifetti is like
what he lacks in speed, he

449
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,960
makes up. He's one of those
old guys in Beer League that he's not

450
00:29:38,039 --> 00:29:41,480
the fastest, but he's just always
in the right position and he's and so

451
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,680
that's like a that's one of the
strengths of Cold Briffetti. And I think

452
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,039
if he wasn't injured last year,
you would have had him very close to

453
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:53,039
Matty Beniers called their trophy conversation.
He was early on in the season because

454
00:29:53,079 --> 00:29:56,599
he was having a great start to
the year. They just need him to

455
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,079
stay healthy. And that's the number
one thing with Roffetti. They need him

456
00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,640
to stay healthy. When he plays, he's a plus to this team.

457
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,359
He benefits his team in a lot
of ways possession wise, especially offensively,

458
00:30:07,799 --> 00:30:10,519
and he's good in the defensive zone, which is something that they haven't really

459
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,720
had with from their top centers and
in recent years, is that he can

460
00:30:14,799 --> 00:30:18,279
play it truly a two way game. And so that's where they are on

461
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,920
Perfetti and they just I think the
biggest thing, the biggest storyline going to

462
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,720
the year, can he stay healthy? Is If he can, he really

463
00:30:23,759 --> 00:30:30,839
helps his team. So two guys
coming in that King's trade over Alexia follow

464
00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,960
Gabriel Valardi. They were ranked fourth
and fifth of the King's and goals above

465
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,920
replacement last year, both over half
point per game. Guy, where do

466
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,279
you think these guys slot into the
Jets lineup? And who do you expect

467
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:45,480
from the two to be more productive? Yeah? I mean I think you

468
00:30:45,519 --> 00:30:49,440
would expect Valarti because he's probably going
to get that top six time, likely

469
00:30:49,559 --> 00:30:53,720
gonna get some power play time on
top of that. Axel follow is an

470
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:57,359
interesting one because I think if we
look at projected rosters of this team,

471
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,759
or at least how I'm projecting them, I think you could see I fellow

472
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,319
with Adam Lowry and you know,
need a writer on the third line,

473
00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:07,680
and that really changes the complexion of
this team in terms of how good that

474
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:11,359
quote unquote checking line would be.
There'd be a lot of scoring that I

475
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,160
think potential from that line, and
I think that it's interesting because we always

476
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,759
look at the second line. You
expect them to get more minutes, but

477
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:22,920
it's possible that third line could get
a lot of minutes because they would be

478
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:27,480
playing a lot against other teams best
in terms of opponents and line matchups and

479
00:31:27,519 --> 00:31:32,440
all that kind of stuff, and
then you would So I think Valardy just

480
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,799
because of his age is youth.
He had a breakout season last year obviously,

481
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,799
and I think that's why the Jets
really covered him and that King's grade.

482
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,279
I think he's I think Vlardi is
going to give all the opportunity in

483
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:45,119
the world, potentially a center job
next year with the Jets, So I

484
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,440
think he has the higher upside in
terms of impact, let's say, at

485
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,160
least points wise, but I'm not
counting out. I fell a veteran of

486
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,359
this league and a guy that I
think, yeah, like I said,

487
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,759
if he's gonna play with Adam Lowry
need a writer, there's a good chance

488
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:05,960
that line becomes quite dominant, especially
just cycling grinding, pucks in the offensive

489
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:08,759
zone. That's one of those It's
one of those lines. If we go

490
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,279
back to the Andrew Copp days here
with Andrew Coop and Brandon Tanna have a

491
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:15,359
few years so they were an elite
in terms of how they created offense.

492
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,559
They weren't elite in terms of finishing
all the time, but the way that

493
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,440
those three kind of churned out chances
and that sort of thing in the offensive

494
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,039
zone was up there with some of
the best lines in the league, even

495
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:30,119
though they were just a third line. So I think this kind of hearkens

496
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,920
back to that. If you kind
of look at that, that how I

497
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:37,960
expect and I think a few people
around here or at least expect that third

498
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:40,960
line to look. But again,
I think this goes back to this team

499
00:32:42,079 --> 00:32:45,799
is deeper with both of those guys, especially what I have follow gives,

500
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:50,440
and especially with Lardy his youth and
his breakout year last year. I think

501
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:53,440
there's a lot of different ways that
you can now move around some of the

502
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:59,680
parts on this team to try and
give you even more even scoring, more

503
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,519
even lines in terms of defensive of
that sort of thing. So I expect

504
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:07,319
the Valordy to probably have the edge
there on being overall impact. But I

505
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,759
think ifl is going to settle and
just fine potentially on that third line,

506
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:14,319
Yeah, definitely, And let's move
over to the D now. It's great

507
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,519
takes on the forward. We got
to start with Josh Norrissey. Morrissey,

508
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,119
who didn't win the Norris but he
had a fantastic season, played the most

509
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:27,160
games that he has seventy sorry,
played most of the games at seventy eight.

510
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,359
And such a strange trajectory for morris
He hovered in that thirty to forty

511
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:35,160
point range point pace for D and
then he shoots up to almost in an

512
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
eighty point paced season, just a
little confusing, doubling what he used to

513
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:43,240
do. And I'm someone who always
I was initially really thought he could get

514
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,160
there, and then I was becoming
really skeptical because he was just locked in

515
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,519
that kind of mediocre range, and
then it was like, poof what happened?

516
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:52,200
So I'd love to hear what do
you think happened there? He's also

517
00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:55,000
been really good with his peripheral cover
shots, blocks, HiT's all really good.

518
00:33:55,519 --> 00:34:00,599
Five years left at six point two
five million. His defense play hasn't

519
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,119
been great, but that might be
part partly because of the team effect and

520
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,800
who he's with, but overall,
looking under the hood, his shooting percentage

521
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,679
was a little bit high. So
his sixteen goals were four more than he

522
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
had last year and nearly three times
what he usually did before that. So

523
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,639
maybe that's a little high. And
the rest of his number is pdo ipp

524
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,360
We're all a little high as well, so it seems like there might be

525
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,639
some regression. What can we expect
from Morrissey moving into next year? The

526
00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,480
biggest change for Josh Morrissey was Rick
Bonus, and Rick Bonus came in last

527
00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:37,519
year at the start of the years, I want our defense to be in

528
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,679
the upper third of the league in
terms of scoring. I think the Jets

529
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:45,480
the year before that were either thirty
year, thirty first or thirty second.

530
00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:49,159
And defensive scoring, I think last
year, if you go back, I

531
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,519
want to say they were in the
top they were in the top ten,

532
00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:55,639
I believe in terms of defensive scoring
if memory serves me right here. And

533
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,400
that was all because Rick Bonus came
in. He say we got it,

534
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,280
just like defense need to start activating
like they really felt covering it. It

535
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,840
felt so strange to hear like a
coach come in and say, yeah,

536
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,599
like we just needed defense to move
up the ice. This should just be

537
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,760
something that but it wasn't happening and
Winnipeg, and that's what I think really

538
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,960
neuter Josh Morrissey's potential. But nobody
expected seventy six points either, right,

539
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:24,559
nobody expected him to blow up for
this career year. But Josh was playing

540
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:30,320
with so much confidence in Rick Bonus's
system that it really unlocked something in morris

541
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,360
I think he just he felt like
a number one defenseman for the first time

542
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,159
in his career and he wasn't being
held back in the same way that he

543
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:44,039
was since Bufflin laughed and Sharrott laughed, and Myers laughed and all those all

544
00:35:44,079 --> 00:35:45,559
three of those guys, and there
was one other that I'm just not remembering

545
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:49,880
right now, but they all left
in the same summer, and Josh Morrissey

546
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,039
was left essentially to saddle the load
and basically play with whoever Paul Maras would

547
00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:58,800
give him, which was often a
defenseman that would drag him down. This

548
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,840
year was the first year that that
wasn't as much of the case. He

549
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,760
played really well with Dylan Demelo.
Some injuries and stuff, like that meant

550
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,559
he had to play with some other
guys. But Morrisey really just I think

551
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,320
he saw something different in the way
that Rick Bonis wanted them to play,

552
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,039
and he felt free. I think
that the biggest thing was Josh Morsey felt

553
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:22,679
free on the ice to move up
the ice. It wasn't like because somebody

554
00:36:22,039 --> 00:36:24,519
for the most part last year was
going to back him up right like a

555
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,480
Ford was going to move back,
and so Morsey could just go up and

556
00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:30,719
actually use his offensive instincts and then
put the puck in the back of the

557
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,880
net or crazy. It's sixty assists
last year. These are numbers that we

558
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,360
had never seen o Josh Morsey.
But it looked so natural watching him do

559
00:36:38,519 --> 00:36:44,280
it that this wasn't like that.
I don't want to I agree with you

560
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,840
because somebody looks at the numbers too
and you think, okay, I shouldn't

561
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,239
send it Desidle, that there could
be some regression. I agree that's probably

562
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,719
the case. But I think the
days are gone of him being a forty

563
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,679
point player. I think now you're
looking at a guy who can push that

564
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,599
that point per game pace now,
at least in this system and under Rick

565
00:37:01,639 --> 00:37:06,280
Bonus. So I think he's probably
going to be having the same I don't

566
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,519
think when it bigs defense. I
think, honestly, I think when the

567
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:10,519
big defense is set in terms of
who they're playing, I don't think they're

568
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:15,480
moving anybody. I think that's all
staying the way it is. So if

569
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,719
that's the case, can we expect
a lot less? I don't think so.

570
00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:23,199
I think Josh Morrissey playing the way
that he played and having a year

571
00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:27,400
of that under his belt, I
think he can be just as good and

572
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,760
potentially a little bit better. One
thing, we got to remember, Josh

573
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800
Morsey fell off a little bit in
the last half, not the last half

574
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,599
of the year, the last quarter
of the season. It just wasn't He

575
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,559
wasn't putting up the same kind of
numbers. So I think if he can

576
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:43,920
address that, potentially you could have
a better year offensively at least. So

577
00:37:44,039 --> 00:37:46,639
yeah, we'll see. I'm really
curious on the Morrissey because, yeah,

578
00:37:46,679 --> 00:37:50,079
you look at it and you're like, it's such a big jump as they're

579
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:53,000
going to be just that Okay,
it was like it was an abnormal year

580
00:37:53,639 --> 00:37:57,800
for him. He had a great
season and put him in the Norris conversation.

581
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:00,880
The norriscy thing all that kind of
stuff. But I truly believe,

582
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:07,199
just having covered Josh for the last
almost ten years now, that I think

583
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,800
he's just taken a step into that
more let's say, elite stratosphere among an

584
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,880
NHL defenseman, and I think he
can stay. There will there be a

585
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,840
blow, but progression, who knows, but I think he is. I

586
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,440
think he's here to stay in terms
of this new kind of improved Josh Morrisey,

587
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,719
at least under Rick Bonus at one
end of the goals above replacement on

588
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,159
the Winnipeg Jets was Josh Morrissey number
one. At the other end, dead

589
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:35,360
last but not for the fantasy folks. Among us was Neil Pianc. He

590
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,960
was the thirty third ranked fantasy defenseman
because he does the stats that we enjoy,

591
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:44,559
but we may be enjoyed in more
than the Winnipeg Watchers anyway, he

592
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,280
was particularly had a rough time at
even strength defense. It looks like I

593
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,599
enjoyed the two shots, two hits
in a block and half a point per

594
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,280
game. He skated with Brent Dylan
the majority of the time, but he

595
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,199
also skated quite a bit with Josh
More. Is he what happened last year

596
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,960
and what are your expectations for Pion's
upcoming season. Pian played with an injury

597
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,719
for most of the last season.
That's what happened, and it really hurt

598
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,599
at times. Right there was times
where you could almost seem like he couldn't

599
00:39:14,639 --> 00:39:17,280
even push off of his I believe
it was the right foot. He'd struggled

600
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:22,760
to push it so that that really
hindered him. I don't know how it

601
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,079
gets fixed it. We haven't heard
of any sort of surgery or scedure.

602
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:30,199
It's possible we didn't. We weren't
twirled much about it, but Pi did

603
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,400
admit that he had been dealing with
something, and so I don't know if

604
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,039
there's been any sort of procedure done. Nobody's really said anything to correct that,

605
00:39:38,199 --> 00:39:40,599
or if he just needed time.
But he obviously he was able to

606
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:45,199
play through it. At times,
it was a detriment to the team because

607
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,880
he did struggle. He wasn't the
same defenseman. He hasn't really been the

608
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,920
same defenseman for the last couple of
years. You have to go back to

609
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,880
the twenty twenty twenty twenty one season
to find like some of his best kind

610
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,159
of actual defensive play. I mean
your Jets fans will remember him in the

611
00:40:01,159 --> 00:40:05,679
playoffs against dry Citle and McDavid in
that four game sweet for the Jets,

612
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,719
that was peak Neil Pong. He
does put up the points, as he

613
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,280
said, he gets powerplay time and
that's part of it. I think the

614
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,880
injury it was just a big I
think that again, the biggest question about

615
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,440
Neil Pong going to this year is
he gonna be fully healthy. If he

616
00:40:16,599 --> 00:40:20,599
is okay, then I think he
can return to the Neil Pong that the

617
00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:23,360
Jets saw in the first couple of
three years of his tenure here and maybe

618
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,000
not the last couple where it has
been at least this past year has been

619
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:30,679
hindered by injury, and I think
it did hurt him, and we know

620
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,639
it hurt him because the numbers always
suggests that even if even if his stats

621
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:36,920
were still there, I think he
would. He have thirty three point ten

622
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,360
goals and thirty three points this past
season. Those numbers aren't too shabby.

623
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:45,960
But I think fully healthy Neil Pong
will We're really regained some of the form

624
00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:49,719
that we saw a few years pro
from them. Yep. And moving on

625
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,559
to the goalies, the Jets gave
up the eighth ranked expected goals for six

626
00:40:53,639 --> 00:40:59,119
recording Evolving Hockey, but only the
fifth actual goals mean they were really outperforming

627
00:40:59,159 --> 00:41:02,159
that number, and of course Connor
Hallibuck is the main reason there. And

628
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,920
as this as of this recording,
he's still a Jet and he has.

629
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,960
There have been some discussions, some
rumors about him potentially moving, but that

630
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,679
doesn't happen yet. And he has
become similar to Vassileski in fantasy just in

631
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,840
terms of how reliable. He is, about as reliable as you can come

632
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,440
at a position that's notoriously unreliable.
He has one year left at that six

633
00:41:23,519 --> 00:41:29,000
point one six million, where he
may not finish out in Winnipeg. Will

634
00:41:29,039 --> 00:41:32,159
have to see. They brought in
Bursois after two years in Vegas, got

635
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,079
him a Stanley Cup. He was
really good there. I don't really think

636
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:38,800
that he's the answer in terms of
a starter if Hellibuck moves on. But

637
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:43,360
tell us what you think we can
expect from this very murky goalie situation in

638
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,199
Winnipeg this upcoming season. Yeah,
I expect if Connor Hillbuck plays this season

639
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,519
for the Jets, you expect elite
Golton like you have every other year.

640
00:41:51,639 --> 00:41:54,480
One thing about Connor Hullibuck is that
even his down years that they've been him

641
00:41:54,519 --> 00:42:00,320
exceptional and last year they needed him
more, not because I think the nineteen

642
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,159
twenty year was probably peak Connor Hellibuck, Like when he won the BESNA.

643
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,599
They needed him the most that season
because of what they lost on defense.

644
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,599
And I think that's the reason why
he won the Besinas, just because he

645
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:15,480
got shelled so many nights and was
so good. You saw it last year

646
00:42:15,519 --> 00:42:19,840
and he'd stopped fifty one I think, and against the Rangers at one point

647
00:42:20,199 --> 00:42:22,960
he was just he was a Besna
finalist, and I think without Linus all

648
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,639
Marks here, I wouldn't be shocked
this Rokan was up there too. There's

649
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,119
other guys, but I think he
got the detention of some of the national

650
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,400
media last year because some of the
performances that he put in, or one

651
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,519
of his best performances came on the
East Coast, and so that always helps

652
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,519
the guys stock. Let's say,
but everybody knows who Connor Hellbuck is at

653
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:46,800
this point arguably the best goaltender in
the NHL. Over that ty Osilevski's right

654
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:52,079
there obviously as well. The thing
you worry about with Connor Hellibuck, And

655
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:53,840
I think the thing that you worry
about with is the same thing that you

656
00:42:53,840 --> 00:43:00,880
would hear from just how much they
played as offered late season fatigue to these

657
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:05,159
guys, and that hasn't really helped
at least earlier on. For Vasileski,

658
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,159
that didn't help him in the playoffs
and for Helli Buck this team. A

659
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,039
lot of this team's success has always
written on Connor Hellibuck. It goes they

660
00:43:12,119 --> 00:43:15,239
live or die by the way that
hell Buck performs in the net. With

661
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:22,159
Bursua, at least they get a
capable backup, right like with David Riddick

662
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,400
last year, It just wasn't they
needed more, right, they needed a

663
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:30,840
backup that could go win games and
not pressure you into playing hell Buck like

664
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,920
they did thirteen straight games down the
stretch to secure a playoff spot. Obviously,

665
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:39,119
it's great that hell Buck can play
all those games and win the majority

666
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:44,000
of them that help the Jets kind
of clinch their playoff birth and all that

667
00:43:44,119 --> 00:43:45,840
stuff, But how much has that
hurt on the back side of that when

668
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,239
you get into playoffs and now you
need your goalie to be at this top

669
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,199
thing, But you just there's just
been no load management at all. You

670
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:57,239
just can't load. You can't manage
it because you need him to help you

671
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,639
just make the postseason. So that's
where the question becomes. And if they

672
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:07,760
have him, can they manage him
enough during the regular season that he can

673
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,519
still make sure that they get into
the playoffs, because that's what he does.

674
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:15,880
And then from there, can he
can you management enough that his playoff

675
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:20,840
potential his ceiling is higher because he's
just not going to be saddled with already

676
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,480
have sixty six starts last year.
It's just too much for him. That's

677
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:28,000
too much for most coalies. And
you've seen the shift in the NHL to

678
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,880
these tandem guys, right, And
if they don't have Hella Buck, I

679
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,960
don't know what happens because I think
the problem is unless you trade Hella Buck

680
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:38,679
and Shiflee and you get somebody like
maybe Jeremy Swayman back or something like,

681
00:44:39,159 --> 00:44:43,440
they just don't they don't have their
goalies in the system, aren't ready to

682
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:46,239
come up. Braswas probably not the
starter, as you guys pointed out,

683
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:51,519
And so I think if the Jets
go from being a bubble team to just

684
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:53,880
a non playoff team without Connor Hellibuck. That's just the way, that's the

685
00:44:54,039 --> 00:45:00,599
reality here, that's how they've operated
for several seasons now, and so they

686
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,440
honestly, I think they know they
need him. And it's a big risk,

687
00:45:04,599 --> 00:45:07,880
right because it's potential that he doesn't
resign after next season or at any

688
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:12,880
point during this season or anything like
that, So you could lose him.

689
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,360
You might be forced to trade him
with the trade deadline when this team is

690
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,639
in a good position to make the
playoffs. And what does that mean in

691
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,320
the broader scheme of all these players
are like, they don't care if players

692
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,159
don't care if you, if you
if you need to trade him for whatever,

693
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,679
for the future or whatever. The
players that are on this team now

694
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,280
want to win now, especially if
you put them if they put themselves into

695
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,119
that position from the trade deadline.
So I expect Connor Hellbock to have an

696
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,039
incredible season because he's going into a
contract year and we know how much this

697
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,360
guy wants to make and what he
thinks he's worth. And three of the

698
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,079
last six years has been events in
the Finalist he's won one of them.

699
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,079
We all know his credentials. It's
just if they're going to keep them.

700
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,599
Can they make sure that they manage
him correctly that he can be a factor

701
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,400
for them in the playoffs. And
if they're not going to keep them,

702
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:05,039
this team in big trouble between the
pipes, I believe because Karnor Hellbuck has

703
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,320
just got good. We all know
it. He's just that good. He's

704
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,599
one of those still franchise goaltenders in
a league that's there's been, there's becoming

705
00:46:12,679 --> 00:46:16,360
fewer and fewer of those true number
ones. Knor Hellbuck is still that guy,

706
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:20,199
and he still will be for the
next few years. He's only thirty

707
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,039
right now. He's not going to
drop off in the next couple of years,

708
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:27,239
and that might be four or five
years out potentially. Still, yeah,

709
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,840
he's gonna be really good for whoever
he plays for this year. But

710
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,239
I think as it stands right now, it looks like he's going to start

711
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,159
the season with the Jets, and
that's very good for the Jets. It's

712
00:46:36,199 --> 00:46:39,239
just going to create a bit of
a problem coming closer to late February early

713
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:44,360
March to see what the Jets actually
do if they can't get a signature from

714
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,360
him from on an extension. Still, for sure, thank you, You've

715
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,400
given us a lot of great information
about this team. Scott, whyn't you

716
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,599
let people know where they can keep
up with your work. Yeah, but

717
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:57,880
when it picks Sun dot com that's
where we're at and a little slow right

718
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,440
now in the summer, that hasn't
been a lot going on, but yeah,

719
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,599
come September it's full throttle Jets coverage
and yeah, that's what we do.

720
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,840
That's the biggest part of our paper
sports coverage. And yeah, we

721
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:13,559
go pretty hard on Jets coverage and
every season, all at every time.

722
00:47:13,639 --> 00:47:15,920
Yeah, I want to pick Sun
dot Com is where you can find all

723
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,360
of my writings. Awesome, thanks
so much for coming on today, Scott.

724
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:29,119
Yeah, I appreciate it. Guys, thanks for having me. Wilson

725
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,159
and well that's good fired passed up. Oh my goodness, go with a

726
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:43,800
cat quick grab. Now it's your
weekly goalie talk with Cats Silverman Cats Instincts.

727
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:49,440
Time again for Cats Instincts, Winnipeg
Jets Editions, Jet Cat Silverman from

728
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:53,599
Ing Gold mag This system is a
little dicey. I think we could say

729
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:59,639
I think they don't have a ton
of great options. We were talking before

730
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:04,159
we start recording about Micaal Burdan,
who is someone it seems like they've been

731
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,719
hoping would be stepping into a more
prominent role. But he's now in Russia.

732
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,400
He's been in Russia for a year
and sounds like he's staying there.

733
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:16,679
So I don't think he's someone that
we need to really worry about. And

734
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:24,079
the only other guy that seems maybe
worth discussing is Thomas Millech, who was

735
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,840
an overager, double overager, if
I'm reading this right, and he was

736
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:35,280
drafted in the this year in the
fifth round by Winnipeg this past year twenty

737
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,559
twenty three. He's generously listed at
six feet one hundred and nine hundred and

738
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:45,280
seventy nine pounds according to Elite Prospects, and he was on that Seattle Thunderbird's

739
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:50,840
team that was really fantastic this past
year when the WHL came up a little

740
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,400
bit short in the Memorial Cup.
And he was also on that World that

741
00:48:53,519 --> 00:49:00,679
World Junior team with for Canada.
I think a lot of goalies could have

742
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:04,559
won with Canada, but he did
pretty well when called upon. And not

743
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:09,440
to diminish his accomplishments, but Millich
is definitely not the most exciting prospect if

744
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:15,280
you look at his hockey prospecting.
It's scary. He has really low equivalences

745
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,559
on all of his years. Probably
one of the best comps I've found was

746
00:49:19,639 --> 00:49:25,000
Scott Clementson, who was a backup. There's really only one reasonable NHL or

747
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,679
on all of his comps, and
that was Roman Chickmonic, and he was

748
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,320
someone who didn't really have equivalent season
his first couple of years. So that's

749
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:37,079
basically the only way to find someone
similar to Milich. So Kat, tell

750
00:49:37,159 --> 00:49:42,599
us what you think about Thomas Millich
and what the state of the Winnipeg prospect

751
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:49,199
goalie system. I'm always happy to
be completely wrong when I find a goaltender

752
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,960
that I think is being overlooked and
then they end up not being quite as

753
00:49:54,039 --> 00:49:58,360
good as i'd hope they would be. I'm willing to stand behind my guys.

754
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,679
And during his his first draft eligible
year, I had actually written a

755
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:08,000
piece where I talked about just how
hard it was for people to evaluate goaltenders

756
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:14,960
after the pandemic and mentioned Thomas Millich
as one of the guys who I thought

757
00:50:15,079 --> 00:50:20,119
should have gotten drafted higher than the
direct comparable that I had in my article

758
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,960
was Ben Goodrow. I wanted to
see him drafted ahead of Ben Goodrow,

759
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:28,119
and instead Ben Goodrow got drafted,
and it took Thomas Millig another two years

760
00:50:28,159 --> 00:50:30,159
to get drafted. But he,
like you said, he did well at

761
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,760
the World Juniors. He had done
even better at the U eighteen World Juniors

762
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,599
during his first draft eligible year.
He really shone there. He was one

763
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:45,199
of the better guys for the w
in the WHL that year. He just

764
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:51,239
he's so small, and it becomes
so nerve racking when you see a guy

765
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,760
who he's listed at six feet tall
and one hundred I think like one hundred

766
00:50:54,760 --> 00:51:00,519
and seventy three pounds undred seventy nine
pounds, which if you take off his

767
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:07,400
gear, he's probably closer to five
ten one sixty, which can be difficult

768
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:13,079
for a team to feel confident about. But he's just got such a solid

769
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:16,639
technical foundation. I don't think he's
quite as good as Dust and Wolf,

770
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,840
because I think nobody is quite as
good as Dust and Wolf when it comes

771
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,559
to those undersized goaltenders right now.
But I put him a little closer to

772
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:30,719
someone like Trent Miner, who is
also a pretty decent prospect who is undersized.

773
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,519
Both of them, both Minor and
Wolf managed to squeak in took Thomas

774
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:38,559
milliche a little longer to get drafted. I think he's an NHL or I'm

775
00:51:38,639 --> 00:51:43,199
happy to be wrong one day,
just to have someone believing in him for

776
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,480
the time being, even if his
comparables do not. That being said,

777
00:51:47,039 --> 00:51:53,360
Winnipeg's prospect pool is upsettingly bleak outside
of him, the fact that he's a

778
00:51:53,559 --> 00:52:00,360
really promising looking young goalie but a
gamble at his size, and that the

779
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:05,039
facts that no other teams wanted him
for whatever reason. If that's the only

780
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:09,840
goaltender you have as a promising option
in your system, yikes. I think

781
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:16,039
that Winnipeg it does this to themselves. Sometimes they wait until they have no

782
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:22,440
one, and then they get someone
really good, and then they wait again

783
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,719
until they have no one. They
had Michael Berdan, who I thought was

784
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:30,199
hilarious and fun to watch. He
was one of my favorite prospects to watch,

785
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,159
but he went back to the KHL, and even though they have his

786
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:37,320
rights for another couple of years,
if he went back overseas, I don't

787
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,519
feel like I'd see him coming back
anytime soon. So yeah, I don't

788
00:52:40,519 --> 00:52:45,719
know what Winnipeg's doing there. There's
so many good young goaltenders bloating around right

789
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:50,719
now. They could very easily bring
someone else in, but I think they

790
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,519
are. They're like someone buying a
new sports car and gunning it to see

791
00:52:55,639 --> 00:52:59,360
just how fast it can go before
they blow the engine. I think that's

792
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,599
what they're doing with Hunter Hellibuck and
sup bulge strategy. But we'll see how

793
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:06,079
far that takes them. And I
don't think they even I don't think they

794
00:53:06,119 --> 00:53:10,599
even have that anymore, do they
with Hella Buck? Yeah, we'll see.

795
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:15,159
I mean I think he I think
he's probably gone, so I mean,

796
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,880
you gotta do something there. He
might be gone mid year, he

797
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,039
might be gone this year. We'll
see. Yeah, that the sports car

798
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:27,599
analogy. They are driving that Ferrari
at top speed right towards the edge of

799
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:29,840
the cliff. I don't know what
they're doing. They got to figure something

800
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,880
else out. I don't think Lauren
Brosa is a long term answer there either,

801
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,320
because those two are literally the same
age. So I don't know what

802
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:44,039
they're doing. I don't know if
your best prospect is a fifth round double

803
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:46,880
age or undersized goalie. What are
you doing? What are you doing?

804
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:52,599
Anyways? Thank you Kay for giving
us your instincts on the Winnipeg Jets goalie

805
00:53:52,679 --> 00:54:02,320
prospect system. We'll be back right
after this the NSD dig Winnipeg Jets dynasty

806
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:07,199
talk, and the Winnipeg Jets.
What do we got going on over here?

807
00:54:07,679 --> 00:54:12,480
We've got a system that Victor ranks
eleventh overall. They have a number

808
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,119
of good prospects we're going to talk
about today. Colby Barlow eighteenth overall was

809
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:20,880
their big pick in this draft.
They didn't pick again until the third draft

810
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,559
or the third round of the draft. It took zach Lye nearing Victor.

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00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:30,800
We're gonna start with your no brainer
today and who isn't That would be Chazz

812
00:54:31,079 --> 00:54:37,519
Lucius and Lucius twenty twenty one first
round pick by Winnipeg eighteenth overall, six

813
00:54:37,639 --> 00:54:45,719
one eighty five pound winger or center
winger. He started in the HL this

814
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,119
past season five points and twelve games
with Manitoba, then he was loaned back

815
00:54:50,119 --> 00:54:54,400
to Portland fifteen games fifteen points in
six games with Portland. He was assigned

816
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,440
on January ninth and suffered an injury
that where he had to go on shoulder

817
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,480
surgery on February six and missed the
rest of the season. So he was

818
00:55:01,519 --> 00:55:05,800
trying to play through it, but
it sounds like it was pretty severe and

819
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,639
so he knew the surgery. Should
be ready for the upcoming season though for

820
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:16,360
Manitoba, and he should be ready
for training camp after the surgical recovery.

821
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,920
He's got three years left on his
entry level deal and he There's a lot

822
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,000
more to know about Chaz Lucius Jesse, and we're going to hear about that

823
00:55:25,159 --> 00:55:30,320
right now from RFHL scout darn Mar
scout is Brandon on this case. And

824
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:34,760
here's what Brandon has to say about
Chazz Lucius. In terms of skating,

825
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:39,280
he relies heavily on gliding with the
momentum that he generates through his initial acceleration,

826
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,480
he could highly benefit from becoming more
shifty. And that said, his

827
00:55:44,639 --> 00:55:49,719
solid base on his skates makes him
very sturdy when enduring the rigorous of physicality.

828
00:55:50,199 --> 00:55:53,360
Lucius did very little puck carrying through
the observation of the games playing in

829
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,159
the HL. When he got ahold
of the puck, he was likely to

830
00:55:57,199 --> 00:56:00,840
make a quick short pass or,
in rarer cases, attempt a shot on

831
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,440
goal. Viewings in the WHL highlighted
a different side to his game. He

832
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:08,840
was more comfortable carrying the puck through
all three zones, searching for wider lanes

833
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:14,480
to sail through. Pass range increased
in the WHL viewings, and he was

834
00:56:14,519 --> 00:56:17,920
more willing to take chances to make
bigger and wider plays with his passing.

835
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:22,559
So stickhandling, like his skating while
carrying the puck, is a bit on

836
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:27,880
the overactive side, could use some
poise and smoothness of movement. In terms

837
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,719
of shooting, he puts a fair
amount of heft and gusto into loading his

838
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:37,239
shots, even the ones that are
released quickly or are one touch. Lucius

839
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,679
doesn't need to put much movement into
telegraphing his shot to apply the force he

840
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:47,199
does. This has and could continue
to catch goaltenders off guards IQ At times,

841
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:52,280
Lucius seems very overly focused on reading
the play instead of imposing his will

842
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,480
on it, but he's adept at
finding open teammates to move the puck through

843
00:56:55,960 --> 00:57:00,599
to various game situations. Whereas some
players see the game steps ahead as they

844
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:04,880
develop, it looks like Lucius more
reads the play on both sides of the

845
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,119
puck until he is comfortable injecting himself
into it, and if he has to

846
00:57:08,159 --> 00:57:12,559
puck on his stick for a prolonged
period of time. He's relatively calm and

847
00:57:12,639 --> 00:57:16,679
controlled, but nowhere near highly confident
in daring in his ability to evade for

848
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,519
checking. If for checking is the
F one or F two. He applies

849
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:27,119
swooping pressure and pursuit, but does
not commit until the opponent has fumbled the

850
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,440
play, and at times he will
utilize subtle head or shoulder fakes to freeze

851
00:57:30,519 --> 00:57:37,039
up the opponent gain ground to get
stick into stick checking range defense. His

852
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:42,559
defensive games rather passive and peripheral,
as he tends to cover the D zone

853
00:57:42,639 --> 00:57:47,159
positionally like the center. His primary
tools to stick check executed quick hands and

854
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:53,440
without overreaching, so overall the best
asset subtle playmaking creativity, though no single

855
00:57:53,519 --> 00:57:59,000
trait is flashy, bold, or
obvious to call a hallmark. Lucius's biggest

856
00:57:59,079 --> 00:58:02,760
concern is the activeness, the assertiveness, and the directed mobility. Gets around

857
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,119
the ice fine at the lower levels, but could find himself caught in the

858
00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:12,079
wake of the game at the NHL. What's the top outcome expected for Lucius?

859
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Though he played at center, is
type of game really Brandon thinks is

860
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,639
more suited for the periphery as a
middle six, supportive playmaking winger, maybe

861
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,000
a sixty point guy, maybe a
career high of seventy points with middling Bash

862
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:30,719
and his fiftieth percent hire tier or
roll the Hller and it would need to

863
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:39,000
find and heavily develop keystone skill or
two stylistic comparis ball Ryan Johansson crossed with

864
00:58:39,119 --> 00:58:45,880
the vertical posture of Jack Eichel and
shades of a smaller, less physical Dustin

865
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:51,360
Penner close to the net the NHL
ranking, Mason Black has a few PHLI

866
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:58,159
equivalents out there. Patrick Sharpe is
a one hundred NHLI similarity score. That's

867
00:58:58,199 --> 00:59:02,679
an encouraging word the future for old
Chas Lucius, and he goes for an

868
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:08,320
all Canada prospect comparison in terms of
the rank. King Pold went out to

869
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:14,559
all of you to vote on Chaz
Lucius versus Connors Zeri of the Calgary Flames,

870
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,880
the twenty twenty first round pick of
the Flames. Who would you rather

871
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:22,440
have Chaz Lucius buy Aos over Connors
Zeri. That's an interesting one, but

872
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,559
we've heard some pretty good things about
Chas Lucius. I was a big guy

873
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:31,320
on Connors Zeri at the outset.
I am hopeful that Zeri is going to

874
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,119
get a little bit more run now
with Sutter out of town, and maybe

875
00:59:35,159 --> 00:59:38,760
a little bit more opportunity for the
young prospects, but he has not come

876
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,480
out to his highest outcome just yet. I'm sure we'll hear about him on

877
00:59:42,519 --> 00:59:46,119
a future episode. Do you think
that Chaz Lucius ought to be the choice

878
00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:51,960
over Connor ZERI Victor. Yeah,
I do. I think they're both good

879
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,360
players and good prospects and some of
the best in each pool. So that's

880
00:59:54,440 --> 01:00:00,400
a nice way to compare it as
well. And I definitely agree with the

881
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:05,440
sentiment from Brandon that Chez Lucius is
more of a winger. That's why I

882
01:00:05,519 --> 01:00:08,519
said that at the beginning, and
then he's listed as a center on his

883
01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:14,239
Elite Prospects paid but he definitely seems
more like a winger, peripheral type player.

884
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,960
He actually reminds me a little bit
of Kyle Connor, who was also

885
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:22,960
an NDP guy and obviously a jet. But yeah, I think that this

886
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:25,880
year for Lucius was tough with the
injury and not playing too many games,

887
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,840
and so some of his equivalencies look
low, but he think he's he actually

888
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,000
has a lot more to show forward, and so it was a difficult transition

889
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:40,159
year after such a strong year in
college and going step to step from us

890
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:45,840
NITP to University of Minnesota to Manitoba
Moose. Those are like huge steps each

891
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,599
step of the way, so he's
been moving all around. I think it'll

892
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:52,400
be really good for him to have
this recovery and training time and then just

893
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,440
being the HL next season. And
I would not be surprised if he does

894
01:00:54,559 --> 01:00:59,599
really well and pops off as I
think he can. But these two are

895
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:01,920
closed, are both good, They're
both similar in terms of times. Zari's

896
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,760
a little bit closer, So if
that is important to you, then I

897
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:10,639
would certainly not begrudge you for picking
Zari. I think he could have a

898
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,559
role on the Flames as soon as
the season. We'll have to see about

899
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:17,880
that. And Lucius, yeah,
I know he trended down just because of

900
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,159
this off year. I think I
wouldn't be surprised if his D plus three

901
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,159
showed an increase from his five percent
chance of being a star. He was

902
01:01:24,239 --> 01:01:28,440
at twenty seven, then twelve and
then five. But again part of that

903
01:01:28,639 --> 01:01:32,800
is the injuries and different teams he
played for this year, so I wouldn't

904
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,360
be surprised if he pops back up. But right now, he's got some

905
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,119
not so good comps. Kyle Tourists
is one that Nate pulled here for him,

906
01:01:40,159 --> 01:01:45,280
and yeah, that seems not unreasonable. I think I would. I

907
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,119
think Lucia's has more upside than that, But that wouldn't be that an average

908
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:53,840
producer like Carl Tourist wouldn't be without
out of the realm of possible. And

909
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:58,599
Jay Fresh Top Down Hockey has him
at eight percent chance of being a star

910
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,039
fifty two percent chance of an NHL
are similar actually in line to hockey prospecting,

911
01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:06,519
so they seem to agree that he's
got a lower chance, but we'll

912
01:02:06,519 --> 01:02:08,400
ste to see what happens next year. I still think there's more there with

913
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:15,039
Lucia's. Jesse. Yeah, next
guy then needed no prospect is a guy

914
01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:20,920
who's been getting some love lately.
Who is it? That would be Rutger

915
01:02:21,159 --> 01:02:25,840
McGroarty twenty two first round pick,
fourteenth overall by the Jets, six one,

916
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,840
two hundred five pound left wing.
He transitioned from the us NTDP to

917
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,079
the University of Minnesota quite well,
I would say. And also, if

918
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:38,440
you're seeing a pattern here of Jets
picking us NTDP wingers, yeah, you've

919
01:02:38,519 --> 01:02:43,760
noticed a real thing. It seems
to be happening, and so his eighteen

920
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:49,039
goals twenty one assists for thirty nine
points and thirty nine games for Michigan was

921
01:02:49,159 --> 01:02:52,559
huge. That was obviously point per
game pace. He also had a point

922
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,559
per game pace for the US at
the U twenty World Junior Championship seven and

923
01:02:55,639 --> 01:03:00,400
seven. He will be coming back
to Michigan for sophomore season next year.

924
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:05,719
Should have even more opportunity there with
some of the other players moving on from

925
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,039
that loaded squad. And he hasn't
signed yet obviously he's still in college,

926
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:13,599
but he could sign after this season, maybe even play some professional games in

927
01:03:13,639 --> 01:03:16,079
the HL or NHL after his college
season. Will have to see how that

928
01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:21,360
goes. Looking at Mitch Brown's tracking
data, the one glaring hole is his

929
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,119
defense. Rucker McGorty not the best
defensive player, but he's in that average

930
01:03:24,199 --> 01:03:28,800
range. He's not below, He's
just average, which is okay. If

931
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,360
you could have him be NHL average, that would be enough, but this

932
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:35,719
is college average, so a couple
steps behind, but not too bad.

933
01:03:36,199 --> 01:03:38,719
His offense, though, in terms
of his expected goals and shots, is

934
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,880
extremely high. A little bit lower
for his expected A ones, but still

935
01:03:44,039 --> 01:03:47,719
very good as well as his slot
passes. Most of his transition data rucker.

936
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,800
Mcgrorty is not the guy you want
transitioning the puck, so the fact

937
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,599
that he's pretty good in this area
is just fine. He's got some good

938
01:03:55,199 --> 01:03:59,960
past, controlled past exits and entries, which is that's what you want him

939
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:02,760
doing, not actually skating the puck. It's not the fastest guy, but

940
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,440
that's okay. Other people can move
their feet and he can find them,

941
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,559
which is what you want. He
also has some other really great things like

942
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:14,480
averages created off puck assist for sixty
those kinds of things. So under the

943
01:04:14,519 --> 01:04:17,880
hood looks really good for McGroarty Jesse. What does our FHL scout have to

944
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,920
say about him? Our FHL scout
Tony has a few things to say.

945
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,480
Skating good, skating enough speed and
short bursts, can do breakaways, but

946
01:04:27,599 --> 01:04:31,599
not a burner necessarily passinger in handling
also rated out as good. Able to

947
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:35,880
find a way to get passes off
in tight spaces. For shooting a really

948
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,800
good shot, Tony says didn't do
too many slap shots, but the other

949
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,480
ones were very good. IQ seems
to have a great IQ knows where to

950
01:04:45,559 --> 01:04:49,440
be able to get there to get
a shot or pass away. Offensive anticipation

951
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:53,880
is top notch. Didn't see a
whole lot of defense, but based on

952
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,400
the short end of time, would
probably say defense is not a cup of

953
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,599
suit. Very diplomatic there, Tony
panic meters seems to be zero four checking,

954
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:03,239
seems to do what he needs to, but needs a little more aggressiveness

955
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:09,199
to be successful at the NHL level. Defense not necessarily a lot there seems

956
01:05:09,199 --> 01:05:14,079
to be more of an offensively geared
player playing the offensive zone. High IQ,

957
01:05:14,639 --> 01:05:18,480
really good shots is the highest asset
for this guy, but the concern

958
01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:23,440
is the lack of defense and aggressiveness. Top tier What would be the top

959
01:05:23,679 --> 01:05:30,480
possibility outcome for mister McGroarty offense very
good, a Tier one type player that's

960
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,280
a big point per game type score
with power play potential, but the fiftieth

961
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:41,480
percentile outcome if you need the NHL, maybe a Tier three type of guy

962
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:45,599
that's more of a marginal guy who's
going to be maybe more of a fifty

963
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:49,840
point player with power play time limited, third line minutes, stylistic comparisible comparable.

964
01:05:50,559 --> 01:05:56,440
He's going to say a less aggressive
Matt kachuck boy, what would a

965
01:05:56,559 --> 01:06:00,360
less aggressive Matt kachuck Be. He
says, Tim similar to Thomas home Strom,

966
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:06,440
is maybe the comparable Rutger mcgroarty's similarity
school scores with the NHL rank King

967
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:13,119
Mason Black have Luke Kunnant coming out
as his top comparable, so that is

968
01:06:13,239 --> 01:06:17,639
something. And his projection has dipped
a little bit over the past year since

969
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:23,880
his draft year, and he's going
to compare him in terms of the poll

970
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:29,599
to Ridley Greek, one of those
Ottawa Senators prospects from a couple of years

971
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:32,719
ago who's also moved his way up
to the HL, and actually he's made

972
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,840
it all the way to the NHL
at this point as Greek, who would

973
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:42,039
you rather have on your fantasy team, Rutger McGroarty or Ridley Greek. Rutger

974
01:06:42,119 --> 01:06:45,440
McGroarty wins fairly handedly, fifty eight
to forty two. I get that.

975
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,960
I think Rickord McGroarty from everything we've
heard, has a lot of possibility,

976
01:06:50,039 --> 01:06:55,760
especially for his fantasy types, to
get a scoring type of role. Ridley

977
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:59,159
Greek's probably suffering from that deal where
right when you make it up to the

978
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,239
NHL and your production is poor right
away, it's going to bring you down

979
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:08,880
in people's estimations because of probably prospect
fatigue. But I'm okay with McGroarty winning

980
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:14,519
this competition. How about you,
Victor, Yeah, definitely I like McGroarty

981
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:17,320
a lot more than Greek, certainly. Like you said, Greek is playing

982
01:07:18,159 --> 01:07:23,559
in the NHL, and he got
some opportunity this season, potentially a little

983
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:27,440
bit from injury, but he did
all right, nearly a forty point pace.

984
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,280
Nothing super exciting for Greek, but
he was there and holding his own

985
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:33,760
and so he's a decent prospect in
his own right and has some pretty decent

986
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:39,280
bash to go along with the faceoff
wins and points and whatever else he's bringing.

987
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,639
But for me, McGroarty also has
a little bit of that snarl and

988
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,559
he can play with some physicality,
which is nice, and I think has

989
01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:50,079
a much higher scoring upside than Greek. What he did and the ncuble A

990
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:54,599
was pretty impressive this season, and
I don't think it was just that he

991
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:57,320
was on a good team. He
that was a big step for him to

992
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,159
take from the NTDP to the NC
double A and he did it well.

993
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:04,320
He kept his star potential up from
thirty two percent down to twenty, but

994
01:08:04,679 --> 01:08:08,719
he kept it from not falling as
far, which often does in their D

995
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,599
plus one season, so that was
nice. He's a sixty percent chance of

996
01:08:12,679 --> 01:08:16,239
being an NHLer, so overall his
trajectory looks a lot better than Greeks right

997
01:08:16,279 --> 01:08:19,479
now, but it's not too far
off, and that kind of goes to

998
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:25,760
show with the similarity here in the
voting. But I would definitely take McGroarty

999
01:08:26,199 --> 01:08:30,479
and looking at his full comps,
he's got some interesting guys. Ryan Smith

1000
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,920
is one of them oiler star,
but I think he's more likely to be

1001
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:41,600
more in the middle, and Ivan
Barberschev is one of the mid tier kind

1002
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,159
of outcomes for him, which obviously
he's doing some pretty good things now next

1003
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:47,119
to Eichel, but he's more of
an average producer of his career. Someone

1004
01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:53,199
like Jeoffrey Lupel might also be similar, and he has some equivalences that looked

1005
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:58,119
not terribly unlike Nick Eiler's fellow teammate
there on the Jets, so that's interesting.

1006
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,199
The Jay Fresh card looks pretty similar
fourteen percent chance of being a star

1007
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,359
and sixty six percent chance of being
an nhlor, so I like him.

1008
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:09,319
When these models generally agree that you
still got some pretty good chance of being

1009
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:13,000
a start as McGorty, so I
definitely like him, and I'm eager to

1010
01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:16,119
see what his D plus two looks
at Michigan when he transitions to pro I

1011
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:19,079
think his game is going to translate
very well to the professional level, and

1012
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:24,159
that's something that you can't always say
about prospects. So I am very excited

1013
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:28,520
about McGroarty. I think the Jets
have a good one and as they enter

1014
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,119
this new phase of I don't know
what they're doing, potentially retooling. I

1015
01:09:31,119 --> 01:09:35,039
don't know that they're going to fully
rebuild, but reinforcements are not too far

1016
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:39,680
away if they want to try to
keep this window open. So we'll have

1017
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,399
to see what happens. But yeah, I like Rucker, McGorty, Jesse

1018
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:47,039
very good. Who is your keep
your eye on prospect for the Winnipeg Jets

1019
01:09:47,119 --> 01:09:53,920
picture? That would be Colby Barlow
twenty twenty three first round pick by Winnipeg

1020
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:59,640
eighteenth overall, also famously drafted by
our buddy Peter Harling into his Dynasty league,

1021
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,720
and snagged a picture of Colby while
waiting at the Nashville Airport due to

1022
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,760
a delay. Fantastic stuff. If
you haven't seen that, you got to

1023
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,279
check it out. It's in our
show notes and Peter tweeted it out.

1024
01:10:10,079 --> 01:10:13,880
Good stuff. He was a good
sport and big day for him, but

1025
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:17,079
it was very gracious when Peter chatted
with him. Back to his numbers forty

1026
01:10:17,159 --> 01:10:20,880
six goals thirty three assists in fifty
nine games for the Owen Sound Attack of

1027
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:26,119
the OHL as a February birthdate,
he'll need at least two more years in

1028
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:28,920
the OHL, then probably one to
two in the HL, So he's going

1029
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,520
to be a ways out. Not
signed yet, but we'll see when Winnipeg

1030
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:36,000
chooses to do that. Looking at
his tracking data from Mitch Brown's data set,

1031
01:10:36,119 --> 01:10:39,680
overall, he comes in at a
seventy two percent, but eighty six

1032
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,960
for offense forty one for defense,
so quite a bit below average in terms

1033
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:50,319
of actual corsi per sixty and his
passing numbers were his. Basically, his

1034
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:55,760
playmaking is much worse than his goal
scoring. That might be partially due to

1035
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,319
the team he played on, but
still it's interesting to note that some of

1036
01:10:59,399 --> 01:11:02,640
his transition game also not so good. But overall, the things you really

1037
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:08,319
want to know is like the expected
goals, which was really high, definitely

1038
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,720
in the top like fifteen percent of
Ohler or in this whole data set for

1039
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,920
the HL, which was really good, and he shoots a ton, and

1040
01:11:15,039 --> 01:11:18,239
those are two things we really like. So let's find out a little bit

1041
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:26,319
more about what makes kolbe Barlow interesting
prospect from our FHL scout. Our FHL

1042
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,000
scout, Wade has a few things
to say here. The skating is below

1043
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:34,199
average. He has decent footspeed,
but lacks great edge control, has work

1044
01:11:34,279 --> 01:11:36,359
to do on his stride. Once
he gets a going, it can be

1045
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:41,520
hard to stop him. But his
skating isn't very explosive. Off the bat,

1046
01:11:42,119 --> 01:11:45,920
passing and handling average. Usually makes
a good first pass, usually attempts

1047
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,319
to write pass, but his larger
frame is likely the cause of this is

1048
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,920
he keeps his hands in tight around
the body and that's a glaring weakness,

1049
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,520
and so his physical attributes to what
he's leaning on. Shooting is elite.

1050
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,800
Shot is easily the best attribute was
great help to him and the only sound

1051
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,880
this season. Release was among the
best in this year's draft class, probably

1052
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:11,760
better than a good chunk of current
NHL players. IQ above average doesn't tend

1053
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:15,840
to get overwhelmed both on and off
the puck, very easily, relatively common

1054
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,520
under pressure. While this is aided
by his large stature, which he uses

1055
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:23,439
to defend the puck from attackers,
He uses his IQ to put himself in

1056
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,439
good positioning. Positioning overall is decent, but the lack of explosiveness and his

1057
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:32,399
skating limits how effective his positioning is. For checking above average a force to

1058
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,760
be reckoned with on the foe check, not a surprise given his six four

1059
01:12:38,279 --> 01:12:43,760
stature, his defense is a bit
below average. His end zone defending is

1060
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,960
somewhat frustrating to watch, as he
puts himself in almost all the right opportunities

1061
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,960
to succeed, but then he fails
to execute a lot of at the time,

1062
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:54,520
tries to disrupt more plays with his
body than with his stick, which

1063
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,720
is fun when it works, but
burns him when it doesn't. So he

1064
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,319
needs more active stick in the defensive
zone, and when he does use it,

1065
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,640
it's usually met with success, which
makes it frustrating, and he doesn't

1066
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:11,800
do it more. Rush defending isn't
that great either. Best asset, so

1067
01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:15,680
it's the shot deceptive in its heart, which makes it very hard to defend

1068
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,960
against. Not at the Badard Mitch
Cooff level, but it's going to carry

1069
01:13:18,039 --> 01:13:24,520
him away is probably help him get
a career NHL solely just based on that

1070
01:13:25,079 --> 01:13:29,039
biggest concern found him ranked all over
the first round of the draft, which

1071
01:13:29,079 --> 01:13:32,479
is largely due to the discrepancies and
what different scouts liked best. One of

1072
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,760
the most physically developed players in this
class, which raises concerns about how much

1073
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:42,800
runway he has left physical projectability.
He's already a fully grown man. Just

1074
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,399
look at his beard. I just
look at his Beard's his weight. I

1075
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:50,439
like that. A stylistic compare or
his top tier potential? Where is it

1076
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,680
going to go? He could be
a Tier one player, a point per

1077
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:58,560
game type guy, as he could
be never more than a bottom six guy.

1078
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,319
Both are possible fiftieth percentile outcome for
him. Thankfully, for the Jets,

1079
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:06,199
his floor is fairly high. Even
if he fails to live up to

1080
01:14:06,279 --> 01:14:10,680
his upper potential, they're probably gonna
get a middle to bottom of the lineup

1081
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:15,439
winger. Stylistic comparable, while the
use of his frame and good straight line

1082
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:20,439
speed echoes Montreal's Josh Anderson is shot
sets him a lot apart there that with

1083
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:26,520
the hockey IQ, he thinks maybe
more comparisons to Mark Stone, although the

1084
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:30,520
defensive game is never going to be
on par with Stones. Let's look at

1085
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,199
the NHL ranking, Mason Black's data
and poll. He's got Max Domi,

1086
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:41,079
Matt Dashane, Josh Bailey coming out
as the best comparable for the p NHL

1087
01:14:41,119 --> 01:14:46,039
equivalency model kind of coming up to
a first line type potential. And we're

1088
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:48,960
going to compare it to Andrew Christal, the man who dropped out of the

1089
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:55,520
first round but was well regarded in
this year's draft and putting it out on

1090
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,079
Twitter to the people to vote.
The people voted the same way the NHL

1091
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:04,119
drafters did and took Kody Barlow decisively
over Andrew Kristall. I have a hard

1092
01:15:04,159 --> 01:15:10,720
time disagreeing with that, although it
sounds like Barlow does have some significant limitations

1093
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,720
in this game. From Wade's description, how do you see these two going?

1094
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,680
I would disagree with all those people
because I would definitely take Christall over

1095
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:25,000
Barlow. And that's no slight to
Barlow. I think he is. He

1096
01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:27,319
does have, as you mentioned,
a great shot, but he is you

1097
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,680
need dimensional and maybe he'll be able
to round out some of those other things.

1098
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,039
I think he probably can, but
he's not there right now. And

1099
01:15:33,159 --> 01:15:38,680
Christall's offense is just so elite.
His vision and his playmaking, everything he

1100
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:45,000
can do. He's just a little
bit He's more well rounded offensively. Defensively,

1101
01:15:45,079 --> 01:15:48,439
they're both similarly disengaged and not very
good, which you're getting with Christall,

1102
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:54,239
and I think that his offense can
really translate, especially using really good

1103
01:15:54,279 --> 01:15:59,279
players around him. I had him
ranked twelfth in my fantasy ranks and Barlow

1104
01:15:59,399 --> 01:16:05,640
nineteenth, So yeah, pretty clearly
ahead. And I definitely understand just based

1105
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:12,079
on where he was taken there's more
draft pedigree there for Barlow, a lot

1106
01:16:12,199 --> 01:16:16,239
lower for Crystal, But I definitely
I'm not going to let that sway me

1107
01:16:16,399 --> 01:16:20,600
too much in terms of who you're
taken, because pretty soon, within the

1108
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,239
next year or two, people are
going to forget about that and see how

1109
01:16:25,239 --> 01:16:29,880
each one of these progress. They're
actually not too terribly at apart turns it.

1110
01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:33,079
In terms of hockey prospecting, Barlow's
at forty percent chance of being a

1111
01:16:33,119 --> 01:16:38,720
star, Crystal sixty, and both
similar. In terms of NHLO probability,

1112
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,319
Barlow has some really good comps,
though just in general, a lot of

1113
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,439
a lot of his comps are guys
obviously done pretty well at that high star

1114
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,880
potential. One of the ones that
they picked out here Trevors Zegers, just

1115
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:58,720
in terms of his offensive upside,
and that seems pretty reasonable. The top

1116
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:03,840
down Hockey model has Barlow more at
nineteen percent chance of being a star and

1117
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:10,199
sixty five percent chance of being an
NHLOR, so much lower star potential but

1118
01:17:10,319 --> 01:17:15,800
similar NHLO probability. So Kobe Barlow
definitely someone you want. This is a

1119
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,479
difficult choice, but I would go
Crystal here, Jesse to your Washington capitals.

1120
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:28,239
And also there's more that we could
say. There's extra information in the

1121
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,720
scouting one note that we have that
you can check out if you're a patron.

1122
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,560
There's also some top ten lists,
but we don't have time to cover

1123
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,479
that now. But if you're interested
in doing some scouting with us, you

1124
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:43,000
get some really great access videos from
all these prospects that are really hard to

1125
01:17:43,039 --> 01:17:45,800
find anywhere else, and great stats. DM me if you're interested to shoot

1126
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:51,560
me DM on Twitter, discord email
us, and it's a pretty small price

1127
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,800
to pay, just given a couple
of reports a month. If you're interested

1128
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:59,199
in joining the team, it's a
good time. Let's come right back and

1129
01:17:59,279 --> 01:18:05,960
close out the show. Fantasy hockey
lie back once again to talk fantasy hockey.

1130
01:18:06,079 --> 01:18:12,479
This is not a test. This
is the emergency Fantasy Hockey Response System.

1131
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,880
I'm Jesse Severe fan tracks and joining
me as always, Victor Nunio of

1132
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,279
Daver Prospects. Victor, how you
doing. I'm doing great, Jesse.

1133
01:18:19,399 --> 01:18:26,039
I'm ready to rescue people's fantasy teams. Is that a thing? There you

1134
01:18:26,119 --> 01:18:29,520
go, there you go, We
got it. It's an emergency response unit

1135
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:33,359
because your fantasy teams are flailing that
everybody's are at this time of year.

1136
01:18:33,399 --> 01:18:36,720
Who knows, And we're here to
help, just here to help. We're

1137
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:42,399
helpful people. I don't know,
Victor. We're talking about your favorite California

1138
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:48,600
team today, right, No,
maybe my third or fourth favorite? Your

1139
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,279
fourth favorite the Barricout account. As
far as I'm concerned, that's probably your

1140
01:18:53,319 --> 01:18:56,920
second. So yeah, we're talking
about the La Kings today. It's gonna

1141
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,119
be good times. The La Kings
are boy, they're a tough one to

1142
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,960
wrap your We keep saying this later, but they're a tough one to get

1143
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:09,079
your your arms around. But one
thing, Victor, it's easy to get

1144
01:19:09,119 --> 01:19:12,039
your arms around, and that is
all the good things that you can do

1145
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,760
associating yourself with this show. A
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1146
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,560
collapses around us, you need a
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1147
01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:27,399
interact with people in maybe the nice
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1148
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,079
hockey, and our discord is just
that, hundreds of people in there and

1149
01:19:30,279 --> 01:19:34,960
daily discussions and it's free. All
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1150
01:19:35,159 --> 01:19:40,319
us by email in one of us. Fantasy Hockey Life at gmail dot com

1151
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:45,640
gets you both of us, and
on the dead Bird Twitter you can email

1152
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,840
Victory. You can hit up Victor
in New you Know twelve, you can

1153
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,760
hit me up fan Hockey Life.
But in addition to all that, Victor,

1154
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,840
we got Patreon. What do you
got going at the Patreon right now?

1155
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,880
Yeah, lots of great stuff.
We did our twenty twenty three ranks.

1156
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,600
You can still see those. It's
a separate tab in case you want

1157
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,920
to just focus on the twenty twenty
three's, but we're integrating those into the

1158
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:08,479
forward, d and goalie ranks now
too, so you can see where do

1159
01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:13,399
these guys that I have drafted or
just got drafted, How do they fit

1160
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:16,039
in with the overall rests of ranks? Where does someone like an Oliver more

1161
01:20:16,199 --> 01:20:21,319
fit in with the rest of the
forwards in terms of like their upside all

1162
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,560
forwards under a hundred games, it's
tough. A lot of our drafts have

1163
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,960
these blended drafts where it's mixed in, so you can go through the ranks

1164
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,439
and cook out who the best top
upside guys are. There's that. There's

1165
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:38,199
of course Patron Cast. There's Patron
Priority Channel. We can do a roster

1166
01:20:38,319 --> 01:20:42,119
doctorc go over what you need to
do with your team. If you're going

1167
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:45,760
through a rookie draft, you can
DM me like who's available and help you

1168
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,319
out with your drafts. There so
all kinds of great stuff, And of

1169
01:20:48,399 --> 01:20:53,520
course we're also doing the average draft
position projects, so if you want to

1170
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:58,079
share with us your draft, we
can integrate that and we pump that back

1171
01:20:58,199 --> 01:21:02,880
to the patrons and quote some of
these positions on the show and be happy

1172
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,760
to share that with you. It's
interesting some of the guys we've recently talked

1173
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:12,199
about. Your Andrew Kristal is going
right around pick eighteen. You might want

1174
01:21:12,239 --> 01:21:15,199
to know that in terms of how
long can you wait on someone like that,

1175
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,239
It turns out not that long,
and so it's really helpful to have

1176
01:21:18,359 --> 01:21:21,479
all that information, if you would
be so kind to share that with us,

1177
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,680
all you gotta do is go to
you when your draft is done,

1178
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,960
go into fantracks, click download the
CSV and share it with us. If

1179
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,199
you could give information like how many
teams and what the settings are, that

1180
01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:34,840
would be great too. But really
appreciate that Brandon and Jason have been compiling

1181
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:38,520
that data. It's really good stuff. But all of that, if you

1182
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:43,159
want to support the show, you
can do that at Patreon dot com,

1183
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:45,960
slash Fantasy Hockey Life. And one
of the other great things is the Tier

1184
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:50,279
dynasty. So the Tier Dynasty that
has been really good success this year and

1185
01:21:50,399 --> 01:21:55,560
we're moving forward with adding a couple
new divisions and it's going to be a

1186
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,680
true tier. This first year it
was all horizontal, but now we're getting

1187
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:00,920
vertical tiers went to four by the
end of the year. It's going to

1188
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,880
be really great stuff. So if
you want to take your dynasty competition in

1189
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,239
to the next level, gotta check
it out. It's going to be a

1190
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great thing. So you can see
more information about that if you go to

1191
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,199
www. Dot Fantasy Hockeylife dot com, Forward slash Tidy t I d y

1192
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,560
check it out. Absolutely, you
should do that. If you want Andrew

1193
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:26,399
Krystal, maybe you can wait a
little longer, but you can't wait as

1194
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:30,119
long as Brian, as long as
Brian McClelland did so. Definitely check out

1195
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:33,560
that ADPDA to get the advantage on
those people who might just be looking at

1196
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:38,800
a set of ranks or looking at
p NHL draft results. Heaven forbid,

1197
01:22:39,399 --> 01:22:42,720
let's take a break, come back
and going back to Cali, to the

1198
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:56,600
Latch Angeles game. Well, we're
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1199
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Fantracks dot com place to play all
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have a good time on fantracks dot
com. Also, I'll mention to you

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fantracks HQ is a lot of fantasy
content. They are gearing up the fantasy

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hockey content for the preseason. There's
a lot of things you're going to be

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able to see there, and they
have a bunch of other podcasts, including

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The Prospect Pod, Full Count Fantasy
Baseball, The Fly Fantasy Football, and

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p TWOW Fantasy Football. We think
our content curator, Nate Duffett, who's

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been helping out a ton with the
show prep behind the scenes. These show

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sheets are amazing and he does a
ton of work into them. We're brought

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to you by Dabbert Hockey and Dabbert
Prospects. Victor is an editor there.

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Followers work well. Is this other
podcast, Daber Prospect Report With our friend

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Peter Harling. I do a solo
show called Dynasty Sports Life. I talk

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four different Dynasty sports, sometimes multiple
in the same episode. Recent episodes have

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been about things like fantasy you know, fantasy basketball. We're getting ready for

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the fantasy basketball season. It'll be
upon us in no time. Of course,

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Football's coming even a little bit quicker, but that's that's all right.

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Follow us on Twitter, slash x
at fan Hockey, Life is me at

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Victor Newno. Twelve is Victor.
Rate and review us on Apple Podcasts,

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Spotify, or wherever else you get
your podcast. Give us some five stars

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and a few kind words to let
us know that you're listener and you enjoy

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it. Thanks once again for joining
us to talk about Winnipeg Jets, and

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until next time, keep living that
fantasy hockey life. M
