WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.600 Thought, here we go to Big three hours show, Fred Rogan, Rodney 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:08.679 Pete on AM five to seventy LA Sports. The countdown is on because one 3 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.679 week from today, at this very time, we will be at Spotlight twenty 4 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:16.839 nine Casino in Coachella. Rodney will be there, Eric Dickerson will be there, 5 00:00:16.960 --> 00:00:20.359 Christian Nakoye will be there. We're gonna have a show from noon to 6 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:23.640 three thirty and it is going to be a blowout like the desert has never 7 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:30.079 seen. Rodney, he said, a blow it like the desert has never 8 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:32.640 seen. Yes, I'm telling you what not gonna be the same after we 9 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:36.200 leave. Fred, Well, anytime you're somewhere, it's never the same. 10 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.759 Put you and Eric together and it's an entirely different ballgame. Then you throw 11 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:44.840 the Nigerian Nightmare in Fred. It's just unbelievable. So we want to see 12 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.039 you make a weekend of it. Come on out if you can Spotlight twenty 13 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:54.159 nine Casino in Coachella. Here's what we're giving away, Boys in Blue opening 14 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:56.960 week tickets. Yeah, and you know how hard it is going to be 15 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:03.200 to get those tickets. You know what those tickets are gonna cost. Yeah, 16 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:06.359 boy, it's gonna be crazy and you'll have a pair of them. 17 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.200 And by the way, we'll work with you on the game you go to. 18 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.920 Not like we're gonna say your tickets are Thursday and you go but I 19 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.879 can't go Thursday. Well, tough on you. Here are your tickets. 20 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.719 We're not doing that. We're not that kind of guys. No, No, 21 00:01:18.840 --> 00:01:21.439 we'll work with you on the game. You'll go to. How about 22 00:01:21.480 --> 00:01:23.599 this pair of tickets Hotel Accommodations and we'll give you a hundred bucks just for 23 00:01:23.640 --> 00:01:27.560 the hell of it. NFL game in Vegas during the twenty twenty four season. 24 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:32.280 Very nice, and again you will work with us on when you can 25 00:01:32.319 --> 00:01:34.519 go. Yes, you could have you know, maybe go and the Chargers 26 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:40.599 play the Raiders. Okay, you probably won't pick that game. Oh damn. 27 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:42.079 I mean you look at the Raiders schedule. You make a decision. 28 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:45.599 Oh I may go to that. I might want to go see Patrick Mahomes 29 00:01:46.120 --> 00:01:49.840 answer what I'm saying, right, Yeah, Okay, either way, you 30 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.359 are going to decide what game You're going to give it away fifty five inch 31 00:01:53.439 --> 00:01:59.359 Westinghouse TV and two hundred dollars and two hundred dollars on top of the hundred 32 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.519 we already gave you. See now it's counting. Now it's adding up. 33 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.760 We're giving away an autographed Eric Dickerson jersey, Oh my goodness, number deuced 34 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:12.960 nine. Sick. 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First, apparently no one is spending one hundred million dollars, 61 00:04:18.920 --> 00:04:25.560 but the Houston Astros are spending ninety five nine five ninety five million. 62 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:30.240 Looks like he got what he wanted. He got what he wanted. He's 63 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:35.759 the highest paid reliever in Major League Baseball history. Wow. I guess they 64 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:40.199 didn't care very much that there were games he didn't want to play. I 65 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:43.839 guess that works for them. I guess so, hey, big fellow, 66 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.480 we're gonna need you tomorrow. No, I don't think so, not tomorrow. 67 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.800 You think you're gonna pull that? I don't think I can go tomorrow. 68 00:04:50.360 --> 00:04:54.079 Wait, apparently he did it in San Diego. Why wouldn't he do 69 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.160 it there? Yeah? I guess so. Well, I guess he might 70 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:00.319 be able to do it since Dusty's out, Chris, Dusty would not put 71 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.439 up with that. Dusty would not put up with that. Sure. But 72 00:05:04.680 --> 00:05:09.040 man, yeah, you know he said, we just talked about in the 73 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.800 teas, and I was absolutely sure, not only with you know, paying 74 00:05:13.839 --> 00:05:18.560 that much for a reliever, but just the baggage that that he comes with 75 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.839 as well. And we just mentioned one about you know, pitching on his 76 00:05:21.959 --> 00:05:27.160 terms, but the baggage he comes with as well, that would somebody roll 77 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:32.720 the dice and go choose him and sign him. And apparently Houston Astros certainly 78 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.240 didn't care about all that. What would you you know what, when you're 79 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:40.839 really look at the big picture, who do you think would sign him? 80 00:05:40.839 --> 00:05:44.480 The Mets or the Astros? Right? And he ended up with the Astros. 81 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.439 Dodger fansn't was any sleep. Would it have been a nice addition? 82 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:51.480 Sure? Were they gonna pay him what he wanted? No? Were they 83 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:55.839 going to give him the number of years he wanted? No? So good 84 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:01.079 luck and enjoy Houston. Okay, So a story came down today and it 85 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:05.480 really speaks to a number of things that are happening right now in the media 86 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:09.319 industry. And why does this matter to you? Because that's how you consume 87 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:14.120 your information. You get it from the media. Now it could be traditional 88 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:19.240 media, legacy media, social media. In any event, you get information. 89 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:25.800 As a matter of fact, more people than ever before check the news. 90 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:30.600 More people than ever ever before check the news. They just check it 91 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:35.519 in different ways. And because they check it in different ways, legacy media 92 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:42.800 companies, mainstream media companies are having a lot of problems. We'll start with 93 00:06:42.839 --> 00:06:49.680 Sports Illustrated basically SI, which was the gold standard in sports reporting for many 94 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.639 years, Rodney, when you and I were growing up, that was the 95 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:56.680 magazine to have. That was it. That was it. That was the 96 00:06:56.720 --> 00:07:01.199 magazine everybody. It was basically the sports bible, Fred and you couldn't wait 97 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:09.120 for that new Sports Illustrated to come out for a variety of different reasons because 98 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:13.199 you wanted to see who was on the cover, and then certain articles that 99 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:16.680 were in there where they were all, you know, well written and informative 100 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:23.639 and really had great writers at Sports Illustrated. So it was the magazine. 101 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:27.720 Do you remember inside Sports Illustrated. I remember this as a kid growing up. 102 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:32.319 They used to have this little section in the back of Sports Illustrated called 103 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:38.920 Faces in the Crowd. Faces in the Crowd. They would pick random people 104 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:42.839 from all around the country, and you know, you'd submit a story and 105 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:46.720 you would hope and wish and pray that they would pick your story to be 106 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:51.160 in Faces in the Crowd. And I used to go to I actually used 107 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.199 to go to that first when I was a little kid and just go, 108 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.079 look, Oh, who's the Faces in the Crowd? Some kid from Texas 109 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:01.000 who scored forty eight points and a half in basketball, or a pitcher, 110 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.439 threw a no hitter in high school and all that kind of stuff. And 111 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.399 one of the biggest memories I had is I was in the faces of the 112 00:08:09.439 --> 00:08:13.199 crowd high school. Yeah, how cool is that? Was a kid and 113 00:08:13.319 --> 00:08:18.120 faces in the crowd. In high school, I had a big game where 114 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:24.519 I set at that point, set a state record in passing for four hundred 115 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.680 and forty yards or something like that. I threw forth and and my coach 116 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.000 sent it into Sports Illustrated and they ended up printing it and put me in 117 00:08:33.000 --> 00:08:37.120 the faces in the crowd. Man, that was cool. Well, yeah, 118 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:39.240 Rodney, you know, being in faces in the crowd was pretty cool. 119 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.320 Yeah, weren't you on the cover of Sports Illustrated, Rodney? You 120 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:46.639 were? Usc That was my next thing. So high school that was it, 121 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:52.159 you know, and faces in the crowd, And then and then my 122 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:56.919 senior year, after we beat UCLA, was lucky enough to be on the 123 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:01.039 cover of Sports Illustrated. So that was that is the big thing for me, 124 00:09:01.159 --> 00:09:03.759 and I still still to this day cherish it. I've got, you 125 00:09:03.799 --> 00:09:09.440 know, the big blow up poster of it in my office at home, 126 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:13.320 and then of course my parents got I think they've got I think they had 127 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.720 like four or five of them around their houses, around their house in Arizona. 128 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.240 So, yeah, that is a big deal. And like I said, 129 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:22.960 I still cherish that today be on the cover of Sports Illustrated. That's 130 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:24.960 a big deal. Yeah, so it really meant something. Yeah, absolutely, 131 00:09:26.519 --> 00:09:28.879 And that's where you went for your sports information and people lived for it 132 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:33.000 every week as you put it out. The writers were great. Well here's 133 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:39.200 the problem. No one's really reading printed material any longer. So what happened. 134 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:46.879 Sports Illustrated switched hands numerous times, different people owned Sports Illustrated, and 135 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.240 then it became basically a digital property. And just so you understand listening, 136 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.799 a digital property does not generate the kind of revenue the traditional print model did. 137 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:03.840 Different less to advertise on digital, so you don't make as much money. 138 00:10:03.919 --> 00:10:07.840 So then they went into the digital model. And when you do something 139 00:10:07.879 --> 00:10:09.679 like that, you got to cut your costs because you're not make it as 140 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:16.039 much. So suddenly some of these really talented writers you have no longer work 141 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:20.159 there because they can't afford to pay him. And you get to a point 142 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:24.480 in this world in which we live where the feeling is it doesn't really matter 143 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.879 who's doing what people just consume when they consume. Here's the bottom line. 144 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:35.120 As all of this is transpired and things have gone down and the property has 145 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.960 changed, the property has changed ownership. Today there is word that they're going 146 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:46.000 to lay off a significant portion, possibly all, all of the outlet staff. 147 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:52.600 All of the outlet staff. How it got there irrelevant, it's all 148 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:56.080 this business and stuff. You don't care, but you do care about all 149 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:03.320 of the staff. Can you imagine? Wow, the talent, all of 150 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:07.799 the staff because they believe it doesn't matter any longer. And what has happened 151 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:11.120 over the years, is it that they don't matter or they just can't compete. 152 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:13.639 Well, they can't make money. They can't make money money when you 153 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.240 got you know, the athletic out there and all these digital sports outlets that 154 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.080 are popping up or have popped up over the over the last few years, 155 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.799 that the competition, the market is so saturated that you said, like you 156 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:28.639 said, they can't they can't generate the income like they used to and just 157 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:33.080 can't compete. Can't compete, right, And they didn't adapt, they weren't 158 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:37.360 innovative, they didn't try things. Now they find themselves are like Blockbuster. 159 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:41.639 Pardon me, They're like block They were like Blockbuster couldn't adapt. Hey, 160 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:45.840 here's an idea. Why don't we take that stuff and stream it online? 161 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.440 All that will never work? No, Netflix is crazy. What are they 162 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:54.240 doing that don'll never work? Goodbye to Blockbuster. We see the same thing 163 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.200 out by the way on this very day happening. Get the La Times. 164 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.639 Yeah, a number of the writers there are are walking on strike. They're 165 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:05.600 protesting today. Why because The Times is losing between forty and fifty million dollars 166 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:11.080 a year, and the owner of The Times is saying, look, you 167 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.480 know this is not a charity. I can't continue to lose money. We're 168 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:18.720 going to have to cut costs. And when we cut costs, it means 169 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.720 we're going to have to lay people off or we're going to have to adjust 170 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:28.080 their salaries because we're not profitable. In all of this is because you listening 171 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:33.879 consume your information differently. Now. Back in the day, the La Times 172 00:12:35.000 --> 00:12:39.159 is the gold standard. I think Bill Plashki is the best columnist in the 173 00:12:39.200 --> 00:12:43.960 country. All the Dawn and all the people that come on the show, 174 00:12:43.960 --> 00:12:46.639 they are the best at what they do. But if the company isn't making 175 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:52.360 enough money to support the business Suddenly they look at things differently, and what 176 00:12:52.440 --> 00:13:00.440 it does is it lessens the credited, accredited media. That's what happens because 177 00:13:00.440 --> 00:13:03.480 look, you probably get your information on x or you can get your information 178 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:09.399 on Instagram, or you can get your information on TikTok. You're informed. 179 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:13.960 You are informed, and up to the second, up to the second. 180 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:20.480 That's why when we do radio now, we are constantly looking for things that 181 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:24.240 happen because the minute they happen, we have to react to them because that's 182 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:30.039 how your mind works. It's very much like the strike zone. If the 183 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:33.519 ball's in the box, you expect it to be called a strike. If 184 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:37.399 it's not, there's something wrong. If you see an alert on something that 185 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.799 just happened, and we think it's important enough, if you come to us, 186 00:13:41.879 --> 00:13:46.919 we should be discussing that because that's how our minds work now. It's 187 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:50.200 not the way it used to be. In TV. For example, this 188 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:56.960 project I'm doing in Palm Springs, we are trying to recreate the model for 189 00:13:56.039 --> 00:14:01.360 presenting local television news information. That's what I'm doing out here. I'm not 190 00:14:01.399 --> 00:14:05.759 doing sports. There was a whole model that we have laid out to try 191 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:09.840 to reinvent the way information is presented, and you say, well, why 192 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.919 would you do that, because the model in which I grew up working in 193 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:20.600 is fractured. It's no longer efficient, and it's barely effective because you know 194 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:24.759 things immediately, so you don't have to sit there and wait till five o'clock 195 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:30.200 for somebody to tell you. When I'm doing the local sports as I was 196 00:14:30.240 --> 00:14:33.039 for many years, and I tried, I did all I could there to 197 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:37.039 say, we got to look at this differently. Is I was doing the 198 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:41.440 local sports, I would say, it's eleven o'clock at night, I'm going 199 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:43.600 to show Dodger highlights, the game's if it's on the East Coast, the 200 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:48.320 game's been over four and a half hours. And on the other side of 201 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.879 it, I'm going to make it seem like, well, you don't know 202 00:14:50.919 --> 00:14:52.320 what happened in the Dodger game tonight. Well, of course you do. 203 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:56.039 If you didn't hear it, you watched it. If you didn't watch it, 204 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.120 you read about it. If you didn't read about it, you saw 205 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:05.120 clips online. So what we were doing was becoming obsolete. It's fractured. 206 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:09.519 When you tune into the news at five o'clock in the afternoon or six o'clock 207 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:13.120 at night, and unless it's live and happening right now, you already know 208 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:18.240 it because you know it, because you have the information in the palm of 209 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.840 your hand. So what we're trying to do out here is reinvent the model 210 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:28.480 in a small place that could translate to larger markets. It's different for some 211 00:15:28.639 --> 00:15:33.360 people, it's terrifying. Our reaction has been pretty good, but also some 212 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:35.720 of the reaction has been, what the hell are you doing? I could 213 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.639 never watch anything like this. This doesn't matter. The cost of failure has 214 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:46.159 never been less. Yeah, So what you find with Sports Illustrated and all 215 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:50.840 of these talented writers going out of business, that model doesn't work. People 216 00:15:50.840 --> 00:15:56.360 consume their information differently. They didn't adapt the La Times. The writers walking 217 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:58.480 out, God, I feel for all of them. They're so talented and 218 00:15:58.519 --> 00:16:03.639 so hard working. But people aren't consuming their information like that any longer. 219 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.600 In television. The people I worked with for all those years I have so 220 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:15.240 much respect for. It's like you're not heading toward the iceberg on the Titanic. 221 00:16:15.399 --> 00:16:21.080 You're not. You've already hit it, and now the question is are 222 00:16:21.080 --> 00:16:26.559 you going to get off before it goes down. That's the challenge all media 223 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:30.919 companies face. That's the challenge we face Rodney on a daily basis. I 224 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:36.120 mean, if something happens, we have to react immediately, immediately. If 225 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:40.240 we don't react immediately, we're behind. Because that's the way the world works. 226 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:42.480 Yeah. Right, when you see a replay in basketball and we're sitting 227 00:16:42.480 --> 00:16:45.360 at home, we go, my god, that was a foul, but 228 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:49.360 the officials say it wasn't. That doesn't work. Our minds don't work that 229 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:55.240 way. We have an expectation. Now you show us a play, if 230 00:16:55.240 --> 00:17:00.120 we claim it's ball, strike out, say foul out about that. That's 231 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:03.960 what it is. Don't tell us anything differently. It's like what we just 232 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:07.240 talked about with Josh Hater, right, we talked about that. We actually 233 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.319 teased it that where is he going to go? What is he going to 234 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:15.279 do? Who's going to pay that money? And between the teas and us 235 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.440 starting the show two and a half minutes, two and a half minutes, 236 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.759 the word came down that he had signed with the Houston Astros. Are they 237 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.960 in agreement? I mean that's how quickly it things happen, and that you 238 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:30.759 can get the news out. So for petrols and money after us. It's 239 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:34.799 old news, right, We've already dealt with it three hours before they go 240 00:17:34.839 --> 00:17:40.160 on the air, even though it's still fresh because it just happened. But 241 00:17:40.200 --> 00:17:44.400 they're going to be late to it when they do their show. I mean, 242 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:47.640 it's just the crazy. Like you mentioned, that's the way the world 243 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:52.599 is now. Everybody wants immediate gratification or immediate effect or information from their phone, 244 00:17:52.599 --> 00:17:56.680 from the computer, from wherever they get it. I feel badly for 245 00:17:56.680 --> 00:18:00.799 the people in Sports Illustrated, and I really feel badly for the people at 246 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:06.680 the Times. And I feel badly for The Times, one of the crown 247 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:11.720 jewels in American journalism. Why do you think that they why do you think 248 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:18.359 that? Is it because Sports Illustrated or even LA Times are late to the 249 00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:26.119 digital party or they just can't compete from a cost situation with you know, 250 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:32.400 X or the Athletic or Barstool Sports or whoever else is out there that are 251 00:18:32.440 --> 00:18:36.079 giving out sports information on a regular basis. They can't compete that quickly from 252 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:40.400 a cost perspective. People at the LA Times are writers, and they're good 253 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:45.279 writers. They're trained, they have access, they have credibility, they're really 254 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.559 good writers, and they should be compensated as such. I'm not saying the 255 00:18:49.599 --> 00:18:55.240 writers at barstool are not talented nor anywhere else, but you are looking at 256 00:18:55.240 --> 00:19:00.319 a crown jewel. Those people know what they're doing and they can provide because 257 00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:04.920 they've been there, and there's value in equity, and they should be compensated. 258 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:11.119 But the problem becomes unless you do something so incredibly different or unique, 259 00:19:11.160 --> 00:19:15.640 you can't stand out because the world is full of information and all people want 260 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:22.119 to do is consume it. So just because you're a great writer, you 261 00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:26.319 can write twelve paragraphs about something brilliantly, and somebody else can type up two 262 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:30.319 lines, and you've ever reading it said I got that. I'm good. 263 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:34.720 I don't need anything else. I'm good. You know when you go on 264 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:38.200 when you go on social media now, and I don't know if you guys 265 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:41.519 do this, but when you go on social media, here's the story, 266 00:19:41.559 --> 00:19:47.640 what do most people do immediately? Immediately they go to the comments, They 267 00:19:47.680 --> 00:19:51.880 go to the comments. It's not even about the story anymore. How people 268 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:55.319 reacting to this? How do people react to this? What are people saying? 269 00:19:55.960 --> 00:20:00.839 It's not even about the story, It's about the reaction But if you're 270 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:04.039 in the business of telling stories when the reality is all people care about is 271 00:20:04.079 --> 00:20:11.880 the reaction, you're in a tough business. That's tough. That's why we 272 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:17.839 saw what happened to Sports Illustrated and that's why those people are walking outside the 273 00:20:17.880 --> 00:20:22.759 Times today. Yeah, but what I mean, Yeah, you got the 274 00:20:22.759 --> 00:20:27.000 people walking outside the Times and people that Sports Illustrated again laid out what can 275 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:32.400 you do? What's the alternative? What's the solution? There isn't one, 276 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:34.920 right, there isn't one. No, there isn't one. And that's why 277 00:20:34.920 --> 00:20:38.160 when you watch local news in Los Angeles, a market of fifteen million people, 278 00:20:38.599 --> 00:20:42.519 if you take everybody watching every newscast at five pm, every single viewer, 279 00:20:44.039 --> 00:20:48.480 that rates and that's the only measuring system we have, the ratings, 280 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:53.759 total them up. You can't fill the Rose Bowl. There's fifteen million people. 281 00:20:55.839 --> 00:21:03.839 You can't fill the Rose Bowl. Fifteen million people across every station. 282 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:11.559 There's not one hundred thousand watching total total. Yeah, but they're all informed, 283 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:17.000 they all have their information. They don't need to watch, they don't 284 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:22.440 have to sit down and watch because they have the information. The model is 285 00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:27.559 broken, it is, and really the funniest thing about it broken or is 286 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:32.920 it just it's become obsolete? Because both it's broken. No, you know 287 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:37.680 why it's broken. Why is it broken? Okay, it's broken because adjustments 288 00:21:37.720 --> 00:21:45.519 were not made early on to foresee this and correct it and do it differently. 289 00:21:45.640 --> 00:21:52.880 That's why it's broken. And because there's a refusal to change, that's 290 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:56.039 why it's broken. And the sad thing, it's not coming back. That's 291 00:21:56.079 --> 00:22:00.279 not coming back. If you don't do things differently, you're done. So 292 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:04.039 if they would have got out ahead of the whole digital world, say Sports 293 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:10.200 Illustrated, Ay, we're moving things digitally at a time when it was people 294 00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:11.519 were still on the fence of whether this was gonna work or not, they 295 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:17.519 would have been they would have been Netflix, Netflix, because Netflix, remember 296 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:22.559 they used to have hard disc hard you know DBDs that they would even go 297 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:26.839 and drop them off in the box and they would send them to you in 298 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.200 the mail. You would get them and all that kind of stuff. And 299 00:22:29.240 --> 00:22:33.160 then they evolved quickly to streaming and we'll do everything online, and that's where 300 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:38.480 they took off and killed everybody. So you're saying that the times in Sports 301 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:42.240 Illustrated did not adapt to that model soon enough, and look at it like 302 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:45.720 this. What if Sports Illustrated said, you know, we've got a great 303 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.880 brand here, but what we're gonna do is kind of branch off a little 304 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:56.160 bit and become Barstool Sports or you know what I mean. Yeah, yes, 305 00:22:56.359 --> 00:23:00.680 something like that. We're just gonna branch off a little bit. Okay, 306 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:04.440 it's gonna be a white label for us. We own it, but 307 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:10.920 we're gonna do this too. Suddenly you could have seen a difference, and 308 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:15.000 Bistool Sports is in trouble. Now we would have become Bleacher Report. You 309 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.000 know, we could have become anything. And everybody tries, and to be 310 00:23:18.039 --> 00:23:19.240 honest with you, a lot of people have tried, and the majority of 311 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.519 them have failed, not succeeded, but at least they tried. At least 312 00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:27.119 they tried. And the damnedest thing about all of this, and obviously I'm 313 00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.119 more a student of the media than the sports guy, and I've always told 314 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:37.480 people that I love our business. The damnedest thing. The prediction was audio 315 00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:41.680 or as you listen now, radio would be the first to die. Yeah, 316 00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:48.240 that was the prediction. No one's gonna listen anymore. That's it. 317 00:23:48.680 --> 00:23:52.200 I'm telling you, people that really know what they're doing it now. Papers 318 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:56.799 are bad, but radio is in huge trouble. Radio has never been more 319 00:23:56.920 --> 00:24:02.160 vibrant. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, yeah, you're right. With podcasting 320 00:24:02.240 --> 00:24:06.160 now, audio as we call it, audio has never been more vibrant. 321 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:10.680 You never You've never had a chance to connect with so many people. And 322 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:15.920 you know the other part of it that is even funnier. If podcasting works, 323 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:22.799 what else works? The spoken word? Talk radio? Talk radio works. 324 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:26.759 It's a connection on a daily basis and an engagement and an interaction, 325 00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:30.160 something they can't do on TV. But the only other place you can find 326 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:36.319 at is online and social media. With the comments, you're interacting, you're 327 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:41.119 exchanging ideas, You're engaged. The same goes for audio. You're engaged, 328 00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:45.519 you're listening to us. You might think I'm full of crap, you might 329 00:24:45.559 --> 00:24:48.720 think I'm the smartest guy in the world, but you are engaged because we 330 00:24:48.759 --> 00:24:56.400 are talking to you and exchanging ideas. Legacy media companies, Sports Illustrated are 331 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:03.839 good friends. At the times KNB see they're not engaging people. They're not 332 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:08.759 engaged. They read passively. They want great writers, but the engagement is 333 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:15.720 not there, and that's what matters now. It's the engagement in this new 334 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:19.759 world of technology. That's why we're where we're at. That's why we see 335 00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.279 this with Sports Illustrated and your heart goes out to them, That's why we 336 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:26.039 see this with the Times. My heart goes out to them. We love 337 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:32.079 them, love them. That's why my heart goes out to everybody doing local 338 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.400 news because you can sit there and think, my god, I'm still doing 339 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.119 a service to the community, and the matter. The truth of the matter 340 00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:41.319 is you're just surviving and thank god, you're working and getting a paycheck. 341 00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.240 It's crazy even with you know, with with sports and you know a lot 342 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:52.519 of things, but particularly sports the post game, right, it's not it 343 00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:55.200 doesn't have the lust that it used to have. I mean, you still 344 00:25:55.240 --> 00:25:56.599 get some sound bites heering there, but people, a lot of people are 345 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:00.759 just I'm just going to go to his Instagram page and get the full scrit 346 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.599 a full scoop on what happened, right, And that's why I always said 347 00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:07.039 to you, Rodney, and with respect to all that, do it. 348 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:10.960 Oh, I'm gonna be in the locker room ask that first question. Why 349 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.359 why if you care about something, you get the whole thing streamed somewhere on 350 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.480 YouTube. You can read every word that somebody said. It's all written out 351 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.920 for you somewhere. You can find it. No, I'm gonna wait for 352 00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:27.279 that twenty five second SoundBite. I'm gonna wait because I know tonight, even 353 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.720 though I've read everything that said and I've watched the whole thing tonight, I 354 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:37.640 just got to relive that fifteen seconds. No. No, the model doesn't 355 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:42.440 work anymore. And that's the challenge for all media companies. That's a challenge, 356 00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.480 and that's a challenge for us here. We are looking at ways to 357 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:52.759 innovate. At iHeart, we understand everybody understands. It's just who's gonna do 358 00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:56.119 it. Who's gonna step up, who's gonna have the courage, who's gonna 359 00:26:56.279 --> 00:27:02.480 buck conventional thinking? Who? Here? In Palm Springs. I'm telling you 360 00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.640 this newscast we're doing, and it was a model I pitched in LA. 361 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:12.839 It looks nothing like news nothing, but it's information and it's engaging. It's 362 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:17.200 a new way to do it. Is it gonna work? I don't know. 363 00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:21.400 I mean, could it fail in Palm Springs? Maybe? But nothing 364 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.640 else works, so how can it fail? Yeah? I'm serious? Why 365 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:29.079 not? Right? That's right. Not what's the risk and trying this? 366 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:33.039 There's no risk. What we do doesn't work, So let's try it this. 367 00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:38.480 Let's see if we can get people that consume information differently in the tent. 368 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:42.400 Let's try. I'm sorry, I just went off. Oh no, 369 00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.759 it's good, good stuff on a Friday. I love it. I'm sorry, 370 00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:48.680 I'm sorry. All right, we got to get to Dan Waki. 371 00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.279 No, Rodney, I apologize. That was ridiculous. Oh no, no, 372 00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:57.079 it was good stuff, good stuff, all right. So our NBA 373 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:03.559 insider Dan Wiki joins us. Now let's get into Laker possible trade deals. 374 00:28:03.799 --> 00:28:08.039 Oh, yes, it is a Friday, a beautiful Friday. I might 375 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:15.960 add Road and Rodney. We absolutely usually don't care on Friday. Oh we 376 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:18.880 don't. We don't. We don't care on Friday. And uh, but 377 00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:22.599 we do care about our next guests coming on. Fredd. Don't care about 378 00:28:22.680 --> 00:28:25.680 him a lot. Yeah, we do. And uh just want to break 379 00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.599 this to you because it happened. Now. I's working on a deal of 380 00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:33.920 finalized Antonio Pierce's head coach. Yes, we're gonna get into that with Vinnie 381 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.680 bonnceignor here soon. Yeah, local guy looks like he won good for him. 382 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:41.839 Benny bon Signioro Beiandre. In the one o'clock hour, we'll get into 383 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:45.200 it. Let's bring on our NBA insider Dan Woiki Dan, how are you 384 00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:51.119 hello, guys? I'm very good. How are you? Guys? Just 385 00:28:51.160 --> 00:28:53.480 find Dan? All right, Lakers, just cut to the chase, stay 386 00:28:53.519 --> 00:29:00.640 the course or shake things up. O. It is a It's a fascinating 387 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.799 question, right, and uh, it is one that I've had a lot 388 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:11.279 of discussions about lately. It is one that I've had a lot of disagreements 389 00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.519 about the people. I've heard a lot of varying opinions. I mean, 390 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.559 I think I think guys the right way to look at this, right and 391 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.480 we can talk about what we think or what I think they should do or 392 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.559 whatnot. I think it's more important, like what they're gonna do. I 393 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:26.160 think I think here's what we know. Rob Plink has been always been very 394 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.000 aggressive at the trade deadline. I would expect them to again be very aggressive, 395 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.839 right, Like we know they've talked to Atlanta about Dejantay Murray. We 396 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.160 know they've had conversations with other teams, but like, look that's not breaking 397 00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:42.519 news. That's what that's it'd be negligence if they didn't. But I think 398 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.319 they're looking, and I think the reason they're looking is because they have Lebron 399 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.559 James, they have Anthony Davis, and those guys are playing at a level 400 00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:53.160 in which you can it's not hard to squint to see how if those two 401 00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:57.359 guys are playing like the way they've played, particularly in this past week against 402 00:29:57.400 --> 00:30:02.720 Oklahoma City in Dallas, and if they can string those together in a playoff 403 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:06.680 series or a playoff run, like, it's not hard to imagine this team 404 00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:10.440 winning a series or two series or maybe even more. Where it's tricky is 405 00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:12.400 when you start thinking about, Okay, well, like what about the month 406 00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:17.480 friar when they were sort of listless and you know, what about you know, 407 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:21.039 age and injury concerns and how much are you putting into a team now 408 00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.960 that you know, if we're talking about you know, I don't think it's 409 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:29.519 like scratcher odds, like lottery tickets, scratch your odds, but long odds, 410 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.759 you know, like how much do you want to put into improving those 411 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.400 odds? And it is, Uh, there's a lot of different sort of 412 00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:41.039 permutations. I think the roster needs to get better. I said this you 413 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.119 know recently on a on a YouTube show. But I think, to me, 414 00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.039 it's if I had to say what I would do or what I think 415 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.319 they need. I think, whether it's an all star caliber player, whether 416 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:56.400 it's not, they need to find someone who they can trust on both sides 417 00:30:56.440 --> 00:31:00.559 of the ball, Like simply like a guy who is competent offense, you 418 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:03.000 can play on defense. It's convenant on defense. So you have like another 419 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:08.160 true two way player. I think that should be the most important sort of 420 00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:14.319 search, right. No, I hear you, I hear you, Dan. 421 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:15.960 But here's here's the thing. When we talk about trades, and there's 422 00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:21.960 names obviously that have been floating around, but also from a Lakers standpoint, 423 00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.319 from their current roster, you hear names like, Okay, they're gonna have 424 00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.440 to give up Austin Reeves, or they're gonna have to give up Rui Hachi 425 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:32.079 Mura, D'Angel Russell's name has been popping up when you look at it, 426 00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:37.799 Uh who if you're Rob Linka and you're running the show, who are you 427 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:41.680 most comfortable And it may be a bad way to put it, most comfortable 428 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:47.640 giving up in a trade of those three guys that I just mentioned, I 429 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.160 mean, I mean, look, I don't think it's a secret that D'angela 430 00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:56.039 Russell is sort of the most likely to be moved. The contract is what 431 00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:59.640 it is. It's about about, you know, eighteen million dollars. He's 432 00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.880 got a option for next season. That player option has spooked some people a 433 00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.599 little bit. You know, it's not really an expiring deal. I think 434 00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:14.839 Delo's reputation as like a quote unquote winning player on the league is very high. 435 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.079 I think he dispelled some of that last year in the playoffs. But 436 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:20.160 then you know, it doesn't help when the Lakers have a musten game right 437 00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:23.799 in Darbennham chooses to go Downis Schroger instead like he did in Game four. 438 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:30.799 So you know, I think where Delo barely played, I think that's one 439 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.839 of those things, like you know, those guys. But the exception of 440 00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:40.039 Austin Reeves and maybe a little bit Max Christy, most of the Lakers' trade 441 00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:45.319 assets, and I would include ruining this are just mostly contract numbers, right, 442 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.720 Like the real start of the show here, Rodney is the twenty nine 443 00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.680 first round pick, right because God, God knows what we're all going to 444 00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.720 look like in twenty twenty nine. But like you know, I mean that's 445 00:32:55.200 --> 00:33:00.359 that's five more years of AD, that's Lebron five more years from now. 446 00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:05.240 Like I mean, the Lakers conceivably would be in some sort of rebuild and 447 00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:09.000 getting your hands on that draftic is like that's the real asset. Everything else. 448 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:13.039 You know, Austin Reeves I think is probably next time sort of their 449 00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:15.559 asset hierarchy. But they're not going to trade as at least not for any 450 00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.799 of the players that we've heard about yet. You know, like that, 451 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.880 you know, they're not interested in trading Austin to Jean Tae Murray. You 452 00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:28.200 know, like that's just the reality of it. Now, I think could 453 00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:32.279 that change, I sure in it could anything change sort of way, but 454 00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:37.480 you know that's been communicated. I think, you know, so then now 455 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:44.880 we're talking about guys like Max Chris tjalcha Fino, you know, those picks, 456 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:49.160 second round picks, some swaps, like it's very all of that stuff. 457 00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:52.359 It's not like they don't have you know, RJ. Barrett or Manuel 458 00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.279 Quickly, you know, like those kinds of players to to dangle in trades. 459 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.000 That's just not that's just not the way their their roster is built. 460 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:05.960 So it's gonna be a little bit of a harder road. So that's gonna 461 00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:08.679 be, that's gonna be what's on that point? Could try to figure out. 462 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.880 All right, that being said, let's say nothing happens, do they 463 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.280 have the choice to go all the way all the way? I don't think 464 00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:22.760 so. I think they are closer though, Like I'm a little more optimistic 465 00:34:22.760 --> 00:34:24.840 after last week. I tried it to be like too much like a prisoner 466 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:30.159 of the moment on these things, but like I kind of feel like in 467 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:34.719 the last week they've gotten some of their juice back. And I think part 468 00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:39.719 of it is Jared Vanderbilt, a really really important player for their regular season. 469 00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:45.440 Obviously in the playoffs, his offensive limitations become an issue like that just 470 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:47.960 it happened last year the playoffs. It'll probably happen again this year. But 471 00:34:49.079 --> 00:34:52.320 I think, you know the way that they they're able to kind of just 472 00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.159 sort of throw him at guys, right, like you know, Luca and 473 00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:02.960 Kyrie. You know, he could guard you know, Paul George or Kawhi 474 00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.519 Leonard. Like he's big enough, right and and he's ranging up and quick 475 00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.679 enough. There was a play I want to stay in the fourth quarter against 476 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.039 Dallas, where the Mavericks call timeout, you know, like one of those 477 00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.360 momentum timeouts right where they wanted to try to stop the Lakers momentum. And 478 00:35:17.480 --> 00:35:21.800 usually that's when teams come out they run their best play. You know. 479 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.599 It's where it's like you put your foot the garten. There's a chancing back 480 00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:28.920 in the game. Jared Vanderbilt snuck behind, like hustled down the court. 481 00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.039 Dallas didn't see him. He intercepted the amounts pass, throw it off Mavericks 482 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:37.679 player and forced turnover like the Lakers one by twenty. Like that play was 483 00:35:37.719 --> 00:35:42.280 sort of immaterial in the final score, but it like it's snuffed out a 484 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.280 comeback before it even start. It's a huge, huge play, And I 485 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:49.199 think getting him back and him playing confident in him making those kinds of energy 486 00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:52.320 plays, it helps sort of fill in the gaps where like, you know, 487 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:54.360 like Lebron just can't do that every night, like not at his age, 488 00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:59.199 Like that's just not Anthony Davis being asked to do so much he can't 489 00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.840 add even more so, it's like you know that that to me is where 490 00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.079 I think I'm most encouraged about where they're at now. Does it make them 491 00:36:07.119 --> 00:36:09.039 all the way good. I mean they at they got a lot of climbing 492 00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:13.719 left to do. All right, Dan, thanks for jumping on today. 493 00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.599 Really appreciate it, guys. I appreciate it. I look forward to talking 494 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.599 to you guys next week and uh, you know, maybe maybe we'll have 495 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:22.639 new players. Who knows, we'll find out. Move the needle, Dan, 496 00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:28.119 move the needle. You want to do a quick who dis Rodney? 497 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:30.159 Want to do a quick one? Yeah, let's do it. Let's get 498 00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.800 it in not come on eight six six nine, eight seven two seventy first 499 00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:36.760 caller having a pick yep. Put you on the air. You're playing Rodney 500 00:36:36.840 --> 00:36:40.119 and Colin today. Who's ready for? Who is? Oh? Yeah? 501 00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:52.000 Come on. Today's afternoon Delight is Beautiful People by the Black Keys. This 502 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.719 song is the first single off the duel's upcoming album, entitled Ohio Players, 503 00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:04.119 which will be released in early April. The album will feature a variety of 504 00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:14.480 guest appearances too, including collaborations with the likes of Noel Gallagher and Beck Again. 505 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:21.440 Today's Afternoon Delight is Beautiful People by the Black Keys. All right, 506 00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.800 it's pretty cool. It's our buddy listening on the app in Colorado Springs. 507 00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:30.440 His dad also listens to the show, Christian, how are you longtime of 508 00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.880 no talk? How's it going today? Happy Friday? Happy Friday to you. 509 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:40.360 How's everything in Colorado Springs? Everything's good. I'm actually in Los Angeles 510 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:46.960 right now. Remote next week? Are you're coming out? Nice? Nice? 511 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.119 Is your dad coming to or there? Oh? No? Just me? 512 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:53.679 All right? Good? You know what? You come out here. 513 00:37:53.679 --> 00:37:57.000 We got some stuff for you, so we'll look forward to seeing you. 514 00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:02.320 Then. Who dis perfect. We'll give you a question and uh just yelled 515 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.679 out when you know no restrictions. You have a challenge. Use it. 516 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:08.000 It's upheld you at it. Use a challenge. It's denied. Locked out 517 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:12.280 of the next question. Colin, you're ready. I'm ready, go to 518 00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.519 work. Here we go. I made ten All Star teams in my NBA 519 00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:22.039 career. Kevin Gardead no Russell Westbrook, no good one good one, Kobe 520 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:29.559 Via both they're wrong and good tries, Lebron James, Tim duncan, Neale 521 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:34.519 Robinson, Damian Lillard No okay next. I was a tenth overall pick of 522 00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:39.119 the No Good. I was a tenth overall pick in the nineteen ninety eight 523 00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:51.079 NBA Drac Charles Barkley No. Ninety eight, ninety eight, No, Tracy 524 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:55.199 McGrady, No. I won my only NBA title with Boston in two thousand 525 00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:59.719 and eight when I was finals MVP peers. Paul Pierce is correct. That's 526 00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:07.519 Chris first that. Yeah. I don't even think Christian said anything he did, 527 00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:12.199 but Colin definitely got in first. Colin, you got a good job. 528 00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:17.760 Next up, I let the l what your Who's that? I don't 529 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.440 know. That was a close one. I don't know if I want to 530 00:39:20.519 --> 00:39:28.280 challenge that or not. Oh oh, what do we have here? Good 531 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.719 challenge that one. Okay, he's going to challenge it. Said it very 532 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:38.360 confidently. Fred Let him go, Let him go do it. This is 533 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:45.440 not a booth review. This is Christian challenging, all right. So Kevin 534 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:51.280 has cued it up. I like the confidence, Christian. I actually thought 535 00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:54.239 you got it, but you know, but you don't listen very well. 536 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.320 Here we go. I won my only NBA title with Boston in two thousand 537 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:07.239 and eight. When I will here finder two thousand and eight, when I 538 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:14.079 will herein Yeah, yeah, Colin got it. Nice on calling through the 539 00:40:14.119 --> 00:40:17.320 heart. Oh thank you. Christian was close, you know, what that 540 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:22.599 means? Lockedown through my heart? I thought I got that one. But 541 00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.639 that was a good one. It was worth the challenge. Yeah, all 542 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:29.079 right, Yeah, as long as you live with it, that's good. 543 00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:32.599 All right. So you're locked out of this question, Christian. I let 544 00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:36.840 the annelin home runs twice and won the batting title in two thousand and three. 545 00:40:37.199 --> 00:40:39.920 Albert Forls, Oh my God calling your row way? I swear to 546 00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:44.800 God, no way. Well the good news, Christian, you weren't locked 547 00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.079 out very long. You're back, lord calling? What did you eat this 548 00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:52.679 morning? Man? When you you know, fed the Omonds today? The 549 00:40:52.719 --> 00:40:55.239 brand food. I don't even stand a chance. Now here we go. 550 00:40:55.480 --> 00:41:00.480 I was a fifth overall pick of the twenty sixteen NFL draft. Oh Todd 551 00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:10.559 Gurley now uh no fifth pick? Yep? Aaron Donald, no fifth pick. 552 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:16.360 I won my only Super Bowl title with the Rams in twenty twenty one. 553 00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:24.760 Marson Robert Woods, No, uh yes, Jalen Ramsey is correct? 554 00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:31.360 Christian? No way? Yeah, man? What on a Friday? Rodney? 555 00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:35.079 You're not even I'm not even I might as well not even play. 556 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.519 I'm somewhere else. I'm in La La Land. Are you know where I 557 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:42.679 am? You know where you're not myself today. You're in parts unknown. 558 00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.239 Yes, I am parts unknown. So's my mind. Here's your next one. 559 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.880 I made fifteen All Star teams in my Hall of Fame basketball career. 560 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.559 Fifteen Yeah, Magic Johnson, No, dun Yeah, Larry Bird, Christian, 561 00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:02.920 Tim Duncan, Christian. Yeah. Boy, he got locked out of 562 00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:07.480 that question. And that's it. I was on fire. Christian is playing 563 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:09.880 the game right, He's just firing out answers. Yeah, that's how you 564 00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:15.679 do it, Christian. I made uh thirteen Pro Bowls and was a ten 565 00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.639 time All Pro in my Hall of Fame career. Lewis no, Mike Irvin, 566 00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:25.079 no, Joy Aikman, Jerry Rice, Colin, no way, Jerry 567 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:30.519 Rice, no way. How are you getting these like that? That's tell 568 00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.000 no, no, come on, I had my almonds today. That's the 569 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.920 key. The question was what ten time All Star or ten time All Pro? 570 00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:45.679 Thirteen Pro Bowls? Ten All Pro thirteen? Wow? And you got 571 00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:50.639 Jerry Rice in two seconds. Yeah, that's impressive. Come on, Sorry, 572 00:42:50.639 --> 00:42:53.480 it's going on here. Here's what we're going on here. Last question. 573 00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:58.639 Colin's got three, Christian's got two. Rodney got to get on the 574 00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:00.800 board. Here. We go. I was the eighteenth overall pick in the 575 00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:09.039 twenty twelve MLB draft, eighteenth pick eighteen in twenty twelve. Yes, Cory 576 00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:15.280 Seger, My god, Colin, that's it. You win. That ain't 577 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:21.079 right? Something's going on here, So that is weird. Something's happening here. 578 00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.760 That was a good guess that it's gotta be more yelled little. It 579 00:43:24.519 --> 00:43:30.599 feels a little like me when I had the answers that one time. Come 580 00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:32.880 on, come on, you know, he missed a couple of on purpose, 581 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.960 and then you know, to make sure that we weren't onto him, 582 00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:44.280 and then he got some that were just way too quick, well too quick, 583 00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:46.760 all right, Corey seeger out of the blue. Yeah, that was 584 00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:51.760 weird. That was weird. I gotta be honest with you. But congratulations 585 00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:54.679 to you, Colin, well done, Thank you, Christian, great effort. 586 00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:59.360 And we'll look forward to seeing you a week from today out at Spotlight 587 00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:04.400 twenty nine and Coachella. Excellent guys, looking forward to it. Hey, 588 00:44:04.400 --> 00:44:07.119 good game, Colin, us pleasure talking to you guys as always. Good 589 00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.880 game, Christian, right on, all right, we gave you the word 590 00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:16.920 as it broke. Antonio Pierce, local guy gets the Raiders head coaching job, 591 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:22.800 and that's pretty cool. Vinnie bon Signoro beyond it about one twenty and 592 00:44:22.840 --> 00:44:27.360 we'll get into it with him. And when we come back, are the 593 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:31.880 Giants trolling the Dodgers? Well, what would you do that for? Because 594 00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:35.000 you know how bad that's going to be. But we'll get into it.