WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.000 --> 00:00:08.800 It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety 2 00:00:09.160 --> 00:00:12.400 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we are get 3 00:00:12.480 --> 00:00:16.320 off our show, idiot, the kids are playing or turn off. The 4 00:00:16.440 --> 00:00:20.000 countries are screwing it up. Gold Play inter Murals, Brother, gold Play 5 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:24.039 inter Murals. They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 6 00:00:24.839 --> 00:00:28.600 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? 7 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:43.039 Now? Here's Nick Coffee? All right, let's get it started. Shall 8 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:46.719 we welcome in everyone? Coffee and Company. That's the name of the show. 9 00:00:46.759 --> 00:00:49.719 My name is Nick Coffee, and you are the company you're here with. 10 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:51.479 I mean, I don't want you to feel like company. I want 11 00:00:51.479 --> 00:00:55.799 you to feel like you're at home. I guess that could work because I 12 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:58.039 could just say, well, it's Coffee and Company, because again, my 13 00:00:58.119 --> 00:01:00.280 name is Nick Coffee, and the company man, mister John Alden, is 14 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.000 alongside every day. Didn't we have that discussion not long ago where yeah, 15 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.159 you know, we did. I want people to feel comfortable. I want 16 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:10.079 them to feel like they are at home and they're not company, as if 17 00:01:10.120 --> 00:01:12.599 they're guests. But then again, maybe that is best because when you have 18 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:17.280 guests in company, you know, if you were raised with manners, you're 19 00:01:17.079 --> 00:01:19.159 you're you're you know, you should take care of your company. Right, 20 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.439 they're guests in your home. You want them to make You want to make 21 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:25.599 sure that they're they're being taken care of. So they walk in the door, 22 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:27.359 make sure the coffee is ready, make sure the pillows are fluffed. 23 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.920 Get him really nice and comfortable. The house is clean as right, it 24 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:34.359 smells good, it's welcoming. And you know, I'm not a I'm not 25 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:40.920 a big dog person, and I hate that you you can say that and 26 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:44.200 people assume you want like dogs to be harmed. And you know, because 27 00:01:44.239 --> 00:01:48.200 the people who love dogs really love dogs, right, I mean, and 28 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.280 it's not just those who have a because I think there's different types of dog 29 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.719 people. There are those who just love all dogs and want to make friends 30 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.280 with all of them, and that's sweet. You know, dogs are fine, 31 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:01.640 dogs are great. I'm just not somebody that that natural gravitation towards them 32 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:04.719 to just want to pick them up, pet them and love on them. 33 00:02:04.959 --> 00:02:07.760 But then there were some people that really loved their dog, and it's kind 34 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:09.479 of whatever about any other dog you know what I mean. Yeah, that's 35 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:15.000 me. So I just have never had any relationship with a pet, like, 36 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:21.639 not an emotional attachment, you know, even whenever the dog that was 37 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:24.240 you know, I feel like a fraud saying my dog. But I'm married 38 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:29.840 into you know, having a dog. Right. My wife had a puppy 39 00:02:29.879 --> 00:02:32.000 when she was a kid, and you know, whenever we became an item 40 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:35.039 and we lived together, the dog came with her. It was a deal. 41 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:37.159 You know. I tried to negotiate, tried to get out of it, 42 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.080 but you know, once we had a spot to live, her dad 43 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:42.960 made sure that the dog was no longer going to be under his care. 44 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:46.039 So he was around for a while, lived a very long age, and 45 00:02:46.039 --> 00:02:47.479 passed away. And I was very sad when that happened, but honestly, 46 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.360 I was more sad like for my wife, and you know, the dog 47 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:53.080 had a great life, lived a really long time. So I've never been 48 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.159 able to relate to people who really really love dogs. It's not that I 49 00:02:57.199 --> 00:02:59.639 don't like them, but anytime I say that, I get I get a 50 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:02.120 look as if like, man, you must be one sick, cold hearted 51 00:03:02.159 --> 00:03:05.560 son of a bitch, and it's you know, it's unfair that people look 52 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:08.439 at me that way. It's just that I don't have the sentimental connection. 53 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:12.360 It's not that I dislike dogs. I'm just not somebody that's you know, 54 00:03:14.240 --> 00:03:16.759 obsessed with them. And the reason I'll bring all that up is because I 55 00:03:16.800 --> 00:03:21.039 again saying this is gonna make it seem as if, oh, there you 56 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.080 go, you just don't like dogs. I think it's not rude. But 57 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:28.439 if you have guests in your home and they don't know your dog like, 58 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:31.840 wouldn't you want to have your dog either outside or maybe in its own area 59 00:03:32.080 --> 00:03:36.199 and not have them, you know, jump up on somebody. Happens all 60 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:40.280 the time, and the non dog people dogs know that, and they either 61 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:45.520 have this desperation to make you feel more comfortable so they jump on you. 62 00:03:45.599 --> 00:03:47.439 They love on you, or they know it and they do all that just 63 00:03:47.439 --> 00:03:51.800 to make you uncomfortable. But anyways, if we had a dog here, 64 00:03:52.159 --> 00:03:54.560 we would make sure that it was outside or in its cage or in its 65 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.840 own area. That way, it wouldn't jump on you. Have you ever 66 00:03:57.840 --> 00:04:00.120 had that happen when you go to somebody's house and you know, they just 67 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:05.520 they they know that their dog is lovey and friendly, so they just you 68 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:09.319 know, they assume you're gonna be comfortable, comfortable with the dog just jumping 69 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:12.960 on you. So I got something to admit. So my dog is very 70 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:15.360 lovey. I'm aware that there are certain people that don't like it most of 71 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:18.879 the tame. You're that guy, aren't you. I'm I'm fairly aware of 72 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:24.720 when I know somebody's coming over that may not like the dog or may not 73 00:04:24.839 --> 00:04:28.399 like all the affections. So I do take that in mind, and we'll 74 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.399 put the dog outside for you know, whenever the guests first arrive, Like 75 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:35.079 if you were doing that, that's what I would do. But I've been 76 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:39.519 guilty of doing that before. That's that's for sure. Yeah, And it's 77 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:44.040 it's just because it's it's it's just your nature, it's your dog, it's 78 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.680 in your home at all times. It's just probably doesn't even it's not even 79 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.879 something that comes to mind. And technically, you know the dog, that's 80 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:53.160 the dog's home too, right, Like I don't. So if I come 81 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.720 over and the dog jumps on me at the end of the day, like 82 00:04:55.759 --> 00:04:59.800 that's his house more than in is mine. So anyways, I hope to 83 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:04.120 day find some type of a compromise with with the dog lovers, because again, 84 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:09.920 I'm just convinced that no matter how many times I've tried to plead my 85 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.360 case that I don't dislike dogs, I'm just telling you I don't love them 86 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:15.439 the way you do it. Some people won't say it, but I know 87 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:19.120 they're thinking deep down that I just you know, that I want all dogs 88 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:24.040 to be you know, gone from the world, which is not the case 89 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:27.480 at all. But anyways, before we dive in here, speaking of you 90 00:05:27.560 --> 00:05:31.160 know, comfortable, and you know, I'm trying to think of the right 91 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.800 word to use here, because this studio has never been as clean as it 92 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:39.120 is right now. It's with mine, It's never been as It's not like 93 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.040 somebody came in here and just completely did a full on like you know, 94 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.279 it's not really a cleaning, it's just it's it's somebody came in here and 95 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:50.160 organized and just you know, made it look better, more presentable, which 96 00:05:50.199 --> 00:05:53.680 you know, it's fine. I appreciate it, but I do I do 97 00:05:53.800 --> 00:06:00.480 know that it's not because of me. It's because on Friday, this studio 98 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.319 that I use every day. I don't want to call it my studio because 99 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:05.480 it's not. But this is this I mean, I'm probably the person who's 100 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:10.759 used this studio more than anybody because I think I'm the only daily live show. 101 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:15.160 Well, I guess Shannon May Shannon may use it on occasion, but 102 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.199 you know, I'm in here three hours every day for the most part, 103 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:21.319 and it's going to be used Friday by Buck Sexton. You know who Buck 104 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:25.519 Sexton is. John He's the second half of Clay and Buck. He is 105 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:29.720 and Buck Sexton's that's a name name, what a name, buck Sexton. 106 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.920 Buck Sexton could be a lot of things, conservative, far right talk host, 107 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:38.519 talk show host. I think that fits, but there's other there's some 108 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:41.600 flexibility there with a buck Sexton, Like a Buck Sexton could be a lot 109 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:45.519 of things. But he will be in Louisville doing his show on Friday. 110 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.800 Clay will not be with him, and you know, obviously we are you 111 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:53.279 know, the Clay and Buck Show is what it's called, something like that 112 00:06:53.319 --> 00:06:57.040 Clay and Buck Show, which is on has from noon to three. We're 113 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.839 one of the countless affiliates across the country that that air that show. And 114 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:03.959 he's gonna be here for Derby. So he needed a spot to do the 115 00:07:04.000 --> 00:07:08.000 show, and sure enough, he's going to be here, and they want 116 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:11.040 to make sure that this studio is in you know, is in good shape. 117 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:15.839 And I'm curious if they've even considered you know, the uh, the 118 00:07:15.279 --> 00:07:20.160 the scenario that has played out for me many times, and that is where, 119 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:24.720 you know, for no rhyme or reason, it just happens to be 120 00:07:24.759 --> 00:07:30.079 eighty five degrees in here. I fingers crossed that doesn't happen. But wouldn't 121 00:07:30.079 --> 00:07:32.600 that be our luck? Like what would they do? Like if they've got 122 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:36.879 everything like programmed to this studio and he comes in here and he walks in 123 00:07:36.959 --> 00:07:40.800 on his show starts at noon, right, he walks in at like eleven 124 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:44.879 forty five and it's eighty degrees, that would be I mean, I mean, 125 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:46.240 he may try to get somebody fired. Yeah, that would be that 126 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:49.920 would be not good. But we actually had fingers crossed, we haven't had 127 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:55.920 that issue in a while, so hopefully we're we're in good shape. But 128 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:59.759 there've been there've been a handful of national hosts that have for whatever reason, 129 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.079 in Louisville for something and needed a studio and they've used ours, and uh, 130 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:11.040 all of them have been from I understand fairly fairly kind Rob Parker who 131 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:16.079 does a show with Chris Bassard on I think it's called The Odd Couple. 132 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.759 It's on Fox Sports Radio. In the evenings. He was here. Rob 133 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.120 Parker was a couple of times. I think, did you were you the 134 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:22.879 one that produced that when he was here? I'm not sure who was, 135 00:08:24.639 --> 00:08:26.920 but he was here. This was I think might have been right before we 136 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:30.480 left to go to the to the new studios where we are now. And 137 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.480 then one time Doug Gottlieb was here and he was not nice to people. 138 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:35.840 That's the guy that like, I can't claim that like he you know, 139 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:39.840 beats somebody up or called somebody names. But you know there are some folks 140 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:46.000 here that that that are the ones tasked with assisting that entire situation, making 141 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.440 sure that they get everything they need they can connect, and mister gottlie was 142 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:52.000 not very kind to those people. And that's something you always remember. Right. 143 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.639 He was actually here, I think for the Louisville Dukee game, and 144 00:08:56.960 --> 00:09:00.600 I'm just convinced that he cursed us because he was here. I'd heard he 145 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:03.759 wasn't being nice. And then later on that night he was doing the national 146 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.600 radio broadcast of the Louisville Duke game. When Louisville was up twenty three points 147 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:11.320 against Duke with I think like nine minutes left and lost. That was a 148 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:15.320 heartbreaker and I still blame Doug Gottlieb for that, and there's been some others. 149 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:18.320 But anyways, Buck Sexton will be here for those who care, and 150 00:09:18.759 --> 00:09:20.960 hopefully he leaves the studient. I mean if he look, if he if 151 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.000 he trashes this place, and if it's not, if I come back Monday, 152 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.360 John in this studio is not the way I left it, I'm gonna 153 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.679 make some phone calls because this is my domain, Buck it is, this 154 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:35.480 is my turf buddy, young Buck Buck, Bucky boy. If you look 155 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:37.720 at his face, he doesn't look like a buck at all. No, 156 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.320 I wouldn't have known him if he walked in and I googled him just a 157 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.480 minute to go to make sure I had the name right. Would have never 158 00:09:45.559 --> 00:09:46.879 guessed. That's not that you're right, that's not a buck face. He 159 00:09:46.919 --> 00:09:50.840 looks like a Williams. That's not a buck face at all. That's more 160 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.399 like a I could see a william You know what he is? What is 161 00:09:54.440 --> 00:09:56.720 it? Then? The first one that shows up is that great that black 162 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:01.399 and white picture you see it on Google, like the you just look buck 163 00:10:01.440 --> 00:10:03.679 sext and just google buck Sexton. The first one that comes up. It's 164 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.679 the left. It's it's a he's got the baby face going. He looks 165 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:09.639 like a Colin. You see that. I can see a Colin. It's 166 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:13.879 a Colin or a Derek. Yeah, I could see a Derek. Anyways, 167 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:16.759 let's uh, let's get the party started. Shall we hit his Coffee 168 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.480 and Company? As I mentioned ten minutes ago, we are fueled by Thornton's. 169 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.279 I'm not sure if I said that, but I don't even need to. 170 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:24.759 In fact I do. It's part of our arrangement, but you know 171 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:28.759 it, I might as well have it for tattooed on my forehead. Thornton's 172 00:10:28.799 --> 00:10:31.679 fueled by Thornton's. So make sure you sign up to become a member of 173 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:35.000 the Refreshment Awards program at Thornton's if you haven't already. And we're gonna let 174 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:39.360 you guys be a part of the show today if you'd like. And I 175 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:46.440 think we have to once again start with an update to the really always active 176 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:50.720 transfer portal, and it's gonna come to an end. I think today's the 177 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:54.279 last day, right, do we know it's okay. It is midnight tonight, 178 00:10:54.320 --> 00:10:56.399 So as soon as we hit midnight tonight, it'll be May first, 179 00:10:56.399 --> 00:10:58.440 and that means that we will, uh, the portal's gonna be closing, 180 00:10:58.480 --> 00:11:03.399 and we actually they have some last minute additions to the portal, even within 181 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.279 the last you know, thirty minutes or so. Uh. The big man 182 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:09.559 from Illinois Hawkins, remember him, Colin Hawkins. I think it's his name, 183 00:11:09.639 --> 00:11:13.279 Omenhawks, Coleman Hawkins. He hit the portal and he's a good player, 184 00:11:13.320 --> 00:11:15.799 a good get. But here's what happens. When you end up becoming 185 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:18.080 one of the last available, and you know a lot of the really good 186 00:11:18.080 --> 00:11:22.960 players have been snatched up, your value, regardless of what your production is, 187 00:11:24.039 --> 00:11:26.000 becomes, you know, you become more of a commodity. So I'm 188 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:31.080 not sure if that was by design, but if I was, if I, 189 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:33.919 if I was somebody that you know, wanted to go to the portal, 190 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.759 I don't think it'd be a terrible idea if I decided to wait until 191 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:41.639 like the last minute, because there's gonna be you know, some desperation from 192 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:45.279 programs who missed out on some guys they wanted, and they feel like they 193 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.639 need one piece so we'll see I wouldn't be shocked. Actually, let's still 194 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:54.279 a little uh, not really a quiz or anything, but I'm sure let's 195 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:58.559 see how many from now until midnight. John, we'll reset this tomorrow. 196 00:11:58.559 --> 00:12:05.080 I want to say, see how many end up going into the portal from 197 00:12:05.120 --> 00:12:09.200 now until midnight that we would qualify as you know, a legitimately like a 198 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:13.720 not a guy that's gonna change your entire season, but somebody that's like, 199 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:16.720 oh wow, a lot of schools are gonna want him. That would be 200 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:22.080 a really nice addition. During the break, we'll think of criteria as far 201 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.279 as what that looks like, because I'm gonna set you know, I'm gonna 202 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:31.639 set it to two and a half because if you're not in by now, 203 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:33.279 what are you waiting on? Right? So I'm gonna say two and a 204 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.639 half. But again, we'll reset the criteria and get your thoughts because I 205 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:37.960 think two and a half that's what I'm gonna set it up. But anyways, 206 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.759 as far as the local schools Louisville, Kentucky, I mean Indiana, 207 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:46.679 we haven't talked about them lately, but they've been absolutely crushing it in the 208 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:52.120 transfer portal. I'm not sure, you can find a team that has done 209 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:58.000 better thus far in the off season than Mike Woodson in Indiana, and it's 210 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:01.000 not really getting a whole lot of attention. And I'm maybe it's because they 211 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.960 didn't have a good year last year to their standard. I mean, Kansas 212 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.360 is going to be the number one team in the portal or number one team 213 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:07.480 in the country, there's no doubt about it. They got Dickinson back, 214 00:13:07.799 --> 00:13:11.799 They've done really well in the portal as well, but Indiana's been crushing it. 215 00:13:11.960 --> 00:13:16.200 So you know, Louisville and Kentucky, we've talked mostly about them because 216 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:20.919 that's who most of you all care about. And they're building an entire team 217 00:13:20.960 --> 00:13:26.120 here with new coaches. So the I guess the latest is the is the 218 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:28.200 addition for Mark Pope, which I'll give him credit. You know, he's 219 00:13:28.200 --> 00:13:33.320 got some momentum right now. I mean, I think the way that things 220 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:35.799 have played out for him in the last five days or so is the what 221 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:39.519 their fan base wanted to see, and that is, you know, players 222 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:43.440 being added. Right I don't know if they got up to a slow start. 223 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:46.679 He was a little bit later than some other coaches as far as you 224 00:13:46.679 --> 00:13:50.559 know, getting settled in and trying to build a roster. But they've added 225 00:13:50.600 --> 00:13:56.000 Brandon Garrison, who was the former McDonald's All American from Oklahoma State. He 226 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.639 was at Okay State for I believe, just one season, a six to 227 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:03.120 eleven big man. Some decent numbers during his one season there seven and a 228 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:07.759 half points, five and a half rebounds, a block and a half per 229 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.320 game, shot at fifty seven percent from the floor. So again, he's 230 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:13.440 he's a guy who played one season and as a freshman he showed some real 231 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.360 upside. Not a guy that has a ton of production. But you know, 232 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:20.200 a lot of guys make a big jump from freshman to sophomore, and 233 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.600 if that's the case with this guy, that's a good addition for him. 234 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.320 Which, by the way, speaking of the big jump from freshman to sophomore, 235 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:30.120 I want to get to that later because there's somebody for Pat Kelsey that 236 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:33.480 I don't want to put expectations to high. I don't want to put pressure 237 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:37.679 on the young man. But I keep hearing that they're not as worried about 238 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:41.759 front court depth because they believe that James Scott, the big man who transferred 239 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:46.039 the All CAA freshman selection, who one of the two guys that came with 240 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.919 Pat Kelsey that he's actually going to be able to contribute this year and not 241 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.039 just be a guy that you can, you know, feel comfortable putting on 242 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.080 the floor, but he may really be a guy that could have an impact. 243 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:58.519 But anyways, back to this commitment of Brandon Garrison for Kentucky. This 244 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:05.519 happened while Osibor was on campus, which I just found that to be, 245 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.399 I don't know, kind of odd. So Great Osibor is the Utah State 246 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.399 transfer who is going to make all his visits. Everybody throughout his entire recruitment 247 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:18.039 in the portal has maintained And when I say everybody, I mean those that 248 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:22.279 cover it, you know, Jeff Goodman, Jamie shawv on three Sports. 249 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:26.399 I'm sure there's others those that have you know. I guess I think I 250 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:28.200 think what it is, it's those who cover college basketball that have some kind 251 00:15:28.200 --> 00:15:33.720 of connection to his agent, the agency that represents Great Osibor. So I 252 00:15:33.720 --> 00:15:37.320 think they wanted everybody to know that don't expect a commitment following any of any 253 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:41.840 visit right away. He plans to take all of his visits, which sometimes 254 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:45.879 they say that and it doesn't end up happening. But anyways, Jeff Goodman, 255 00:15:46.120 --> 00:15:52.360 who I don't think has I don't think has tweeted since he put this 256 00:15:52.440 --> 00:15:58.799 out there, but he put he put a lot of fans here, Louisville 257 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.440 and Kentucky fans. I mean, everybody seems to be running with this one 258 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:06.879 tweet where he responded to Justin Sofro on Twitter. So let's start with this 259 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:10.279 at let's see what tom. Let me give you some time stamps here. 260 00:16:10.320 --> 00:16:12.639 So at ten thirty this morning, Jeff Goodman tweeted out Kentucky has landed Oklahoma 261 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:18.120 State big Man transfer Brandon Garrison. Well, then Justin Sofro, a Louisville 262 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:22.399 fan, quote tweeted it and said so with Carr and Garrison, is O 263 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.879 sibor out question mark? Or is U of l verse UK gonna be guards 264 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.919 versus Biggs in December? Well, Jeff Goodman responded directly, keep in mind, 265 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.399 this is not a quote tweet, This is not, you know, 266 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.200 just a tweet on his own on his account. This is just a response. 267 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:45.279 So unless you are looking at what you know, Jeff Goodman replies to 268 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:47.879 every single person who tweets that, in which most people aren't, you wouldn't 269 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:49.559 have even seen it. But if you're following both of these people, which 270 00:16:49.600 --> 00:16:52.120 I guess a lot of Louisville fans maybe some Kentucky fans are, you would 271 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:56.360 then see the exchange and it quickly, you know. I mean, this 272 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.759 response from Goodman now has one hundred and sixty four thousand views, and he 273 00:16:59.840 --> 00:17:03.039 just O Sibor is out, and everybody assumes that means that Kentucky's not going 274 00:17:03.079 --> 00:17:07.000 to get him, which is an odd thing to report when he's actually visiting, 275 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:11.440 like he's there when you're saying that, and I don't think Jeff Goodman 276 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.400 would say that if he didn't believe it. But you know, he could 277 00:17:15.400 --> 00:17:18.480 obviously be wrong. I mean, he could easily, you know, just 278 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:22.440 have bad info. I mean, he usually doesn't miss like this, but 279 00:17:22.480 --> 00:17:26.839 I guess it's possible that, like maybe he doesn't even know that Osibor is 280 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:29.759 there on a visit. I don't know, but he's not clarified. He's 281 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:33.480 not responded to anybody. A lot of Kentucky fans in media are claiming that 282 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.440 he's wrong and it's not true. I'm willing to tell you I don't have 283 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.599 a clue, but if you've added Garrison and Amari Williams and Andrew Carr. 284 00:17:41.640 --> 00:17:45.920 Those are the three guys that Kentucky has added in the front court. I 285 00:17:45.960 --> 00:17:48.480 do find it kind of hard to believe that you would be in the mix 286 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:53.160 for O Sibor. Matt Norlander has acted has acted like maybe money was an 287 00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.640 issue here to where they were able to get these three guys, I mean 288 00:17:57.720 --> 00:18:02.200 Carr and Garrison, and you know they could you know, I don't. 289 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:03.559 I don't want to get into like could they afford it? Because sometimes it's 290 00:18:03.599 --> 00:18:06.640 not about do you have the money, it's about will you spend it? 291 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:08.519 For example. Not sure if this is true or not, but it's out 292 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.759 there and it wouldn't shock me. It wouldn't be a crazy thing if it 293 00:18:11.880 --> 00:18:18.160 was true that the young man from Saint Mary's who transferred to Yukon, he 294 00:18:18.480 --> 00:18:23.039 left the Kentucky visit and wanted to, I guess, commit to Kentucky and 295 00:18:23.079 --> 00:18:27.680 ask them if they would match what Yukon had offered via nil and Kentucky said 296 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:32.279 no, So then he went to Yukon. You know, I don't know 297 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:34.599 if that's true or not, but you know, maybe Mark Pope's somebody that 298 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:41.240 you know isn't going to pay a lot more than what he feels is owed 299 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.680 to some of these players for what they deserve. But if Osibor ends up 300 00:18:47.279 --> 00:18:49.720 at Louisville, which again I feel like even saying that, I mean he's 301 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.880 look, they're going to get a visit. So I guess they're in contention. 302 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:55.599 And you have a lot more money to use than you did if you 303 00:18:55.599 --> 00:19:00.440 would have landed Jaden Quaintance, So we'll see. I mean, I kind 304 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:04.079 of feel like this is turning into a roll out the red carpet. Everybody 305 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.680 in the city of Louisville when Osibor arrives, is going to, you know, 306 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.240 try to figure out where he is. You know, don't don't harass 307 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:14.680 him, don't stalk him, but you know, show him love, let 308 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:17.319 him know he's wanted here, let him know how crazy we are. But 309 00:19:17.400 --> 00:19:18.839 let's show him the good crazy. Let's show him the crazy that is, 310 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:22.559 like, Wow, these people are nuts for Louisville basketball. That's the kind 311 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.240 of stuff we need to show. But would be a big time get no 312 00:19:26.279 --> 00:19:30.039 doubt, And I think in all honesty, I think the roster as it 313 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:33.079 is right now, with the addition of o Sibor. I think what you 314 00:19:33.119 --> 00:19:38.400 would have with is too, in my opinion, really good, really you 315 00:19:38.400 --> 00:19:44.720 know, key pieces that you feel like could kind of be collectively the core. 316 00:19:44.799 --> 00:19:47.000 And it's not to say that other like, it's not to say that 317 00:19:47.039 --> 00:19:48.640 other guys wouldn't be able to do it. And maybe what I'm doing here 318 00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:53.519 is falling a little bit for just conference affiliation. Although Oceibor is coming from 319 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.240 the Mountain West, it's not like he's coming from you know, the Big 320 00:19:56.279 --> 00:20:00.240 twelve or the Big ten or something. But I feel like Chucky Hebburn and 321 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:04.160 Great Osibor would be two really good kind of key pieces that you know, 322 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:07.559 for me, and I can only speak for myself, that would give me 323 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:11.200 a level of like, Okay, we know what we're getting there, and 324 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.359 then you throw in, you know, I say throw in. I'm talking 325 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:23.400 about guys you already have with Terrence Edwards Junior Trader not Trader k I'm sorry, 326 00:20:23.400 --> 00:20:30.839 Cater Treia, the Long Beach State guy. I mean Coran Johnson, 327 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:36.960 the smooth convo guard Hadley from Colorado, who is a guy that can kind 328 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:38.119 of do a little bit of everything. It seems, I mean, you 329 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.359 wouldn't be done if you just add osibor here, but I would I mean, 330 00:20:41.400 --> 00:20:45.000 I feel like, you know, you would at that point just be 331 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:48.599 kind of adding some supplemental pieces, you know, unless a big name became 332 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:52.799 available. So now we wait. I mean, again, to be clear, 333 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.480 I'm not saying that Kentucky's out, but that's what Jeff Goodman is saying, 334 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.039 and he would know more than I. So what I would do want 335 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.960 people to realize, though, is that unless everybody's wrong, I mean, 336 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.240 Louisvill would have to I think, really really really wow him in order to 337 00:21:07.240 --> 00:21:11.400 get him to not go through other visits, because it sounds like that was 338 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:14.519 always going to be the plan. Kentucky, Louisville, Texas Tech, and 339 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.799 then Washington, which is where Danny Sprinkle is his you know, his former 340 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:23.039 coach, which maybe he's gonna go to Washington. He just wants to take 341 00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.680 in these visits for some reason I don't know, because he followed Danny Sprinkle 342 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:33.119 from Montana State to Utah State and then Danny Sprinkle's now at Washington. I 343 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:34.599 mean, I just think it would be a no brainer that he would end 344 00:21:34.680 --> 00:21:37.640 up at Washington. I mean, I wouldn't. I mean, I'm almost 345 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:41.359 a little surprised that, like he's even going through all this, he wants 346 00:21:41.359 --> 00:21:44.799 to see the world, wants to travel around a little bit. That's true. 347 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:47.759 Kind could be of that, well, you know, I mean, 348 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:52.359 I mean, wouldn't you say a guy who's already followed his coach once and 349 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.000 he actually had great Here's what's wild about Osibor. He was better at Utah 350 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.960 State in a good Mountain West league than he was at Monte State for Danny 351 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:03.519 Sprinkle. Like that's a rare bump, if you know what I'm saying. 352 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.640 Yeah, Like, but as I mentioned before, some of these guys, 353 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:11.759 it's rare, But it's not crazy for someone to actually be more productive at 354 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:15.240 a higher level because now they're playing in a different system or they're playing with 355 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.759 better players around them, Right, I mean, if you're playing in a 356 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.039 lower level league and you are the man for that team, I'm sure you're 357 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.799 a big time focus of the opponent every night. Well, if you're playing 358 00:22:26.839 --> 00:22:29.079 for a Power five team, you know, and you're good, you're still 359 00:22:29.079 --> 00:22:30.440 going to be somebody that they're aware of. But you may be able to 360 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:33.599 kind of, you know, add six seven points to your average because you 361 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:38.519 know there's other guys they got to account for, so we'll see. I 362 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.880 don't know when he's going to get here. I think the visit to Louisville 363 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:47.839 was supposed to start is supposed to start tomorrow maybe. I think it's tomorrow 364 00:22:47.880 --> 00:22:49.720 through Friday, maybe, but I'll see if I can get some more details 365 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:52.119 on that. Also, what I want to get to on the other side, 366 00:22:52.799 --> 00:22:57.920 there's a guy that Louisville's been recruiting in the portal that committed to another 367 00:22:57.920 --> 00:23:06.960 school and and they're still recruiting him, and he's not actually publicly I guess 368 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:10.559 acknowledge that everybody says he's committed to a certain school. So we'll talk about 369 00:23:10.559 --> 00:23:14.599 who that is. Coming up on the other side. Also, this whole 370 00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:19.759 crazy, chaotic, hectic world of college athletics with NIL and the Portal, 371 00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:25.039 it's been a wild ride, but it looks like it's going to be coming 372 00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:30.799 to an end because changes are coming and the NCAA is aware that they like, 373 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.359 this is not sustainable. So we'll talk about this meeting that took place 374 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.559 yesterday in Dallas, where I mean they're gonna do it. They're gonna make 375 00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:42.160 these college athletes employees, which will change things, but it'll also make it 376 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:47.759 much less hectic, and it's you know, I think it's for the better. 377 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:51.640 I really do, all right a lot more it is Derby. 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That could be why you see some of 405 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:27.279 these guys taking a bunch of visits when they really know where they're going to 406 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:30.519 go. I don't know. I would I mean, nothing would shock me, 407 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:36.559 but I would imagine that they don't get paid for their visits. But 408 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.480 then again, maybe they do. The players have all the power. Now 409 00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:47.680 that seems to be uh to be pretty clear. This text says it's a 410 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:49.599 good one, but I'm not gonna do it. This says Nick, considering 411 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:56.400 Mark Pope has all bigs and Pat Kelsey has mostly guards. Let's make a 412 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.799 trade. Who would you give me? This is a Kentucky fan. I 413 00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.519 guess who would you give me for one of our bigs. I'm not doing 414 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.519 it because then that you know that already, you know, creates some kind 415 00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.640 of a narrative that like, I'm not as I'm not as high on some 416 00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:15.359 of these players. So I mean, I'm not really sure. I don't 417 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.480 know. I think the best player that Loluiville needs a big trust me. 418 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.799 They don't have any real I mean they brought in James Scott, who, 419 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:26.400 by the way, is going to be a part of this team. Like 420 00:26:26.440 --> 00:26:29.039 he's going to be a part of the rotation. He's not somebody that you 421 00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:32.559 know, Pat Kelsey just brought over from Charleston because he likes him. I 422 00:26:32.599 --> 00:26:34.279 mean, Rain Smith is a marksman shooter. That is, that is what 423 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.920 he brings to the table. That's the tool he has in his box that 424 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.759 he uses. He's a sharpshooter. And James Scott is somebody that they think 425 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:44.079 has a ton of upside, a guy that could potentially play in the NBA. 426 00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:47.759 Plays above the rim, runs the floor. I mean, he's got 427 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:52.599 to develop as far as strength, but I mean he's he's a really good 428 00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:56.880 prospect that if he makes the jump that a lot of guys make from freshman 429 00:26:56.920 --> 00:26:59.400 a sophomore, I think at times it's the biggest jump you see from a 430 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.759 player in colllege. So I'm not to say he'll be a starter playing thirty 431 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:04.279 five minutes a game and be an all acc performer, but he's going to 432 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:07.960 play. And I times, you know, kind of forget about him too, 433 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.559 because I'm just looking at all these guys that you know, we're learning 434 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:12.440 about that that Pat Kelsey, you know, went out and recruited that he 435 00:27:12.440 --> 00:27:18.480 didn't have to bring with him. So I would say, I don't know. 436 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:21.440 I mean again, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna take debit here. 437 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.759 I'm gonna I appreciate the question. Maybe I'll maybe I'll text text you an 438 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:32.759 answer, all right, So Ben, let me try hem Rhuckaus Humrikas humbrick 439 00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:37.680 House, humbrick House, Ben Humrickhouse. That is the uh, the former 440 00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:41.880 NAI star. I guess we can call him a star, but I'm not 441 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.839 really sure how good he was at the NAI level, good enough to transfer 442 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:49.599 last year to the Division IE level and uh he transferred to Evansville and was 443 00:27:49.839 --> 00:27:52.119 was a good player for him. You know, his first season at the 444 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:57.000 D one level, he averaged fourteen point seven points, four point seven rebounds, 445 00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.640 shot it roughly fifty percent from the floor, forty one percent from three. 446 00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:04.839 Just a good, really good player. I mean he's uh, he's 447 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:07.759 see six. They don't list his height here, but I think he's about 448 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.519 six' ten. And uh, he hit the portal and had a lot 449 00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:15.720 of had a lot of offers, a lot of interest, and visited a 450 00:28:15.720 --> 00:28:18.599 lot of places. He was the guy who was just here on a visit 451 00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.160 where I did. I don't feel I could be wrong, trust me. 452 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:23.599 There's there's people way more plugged in than me. But I didn't see any 453 00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.200 reports that this guy was visiting. And then he was in a picture with 454 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.839 one of the visitors, and everybody was able to, you know, use 455 00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:34.799 the internet and realize that's that's who that was. So Ben Hamrickhouse committed to 456 00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:41.440 Illinois according to everybody like who covers Illinois, and I'm not saying that that's 457 00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:47.599 wrong because nobody's disputed it. But Louisville is still recruiting him, Louisville is 458 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:53.240 still talking to him, and he has not publicly acknowledged any commitment to Illinois 459 00:28:53.960 --> 00:29:00.759 on any of his social media. So maybe he's committed, but it's like 460 00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:04.920 the super soft verbal. I mean, what does that tell you, John, 461 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.480 I mean, he's not super active on social but you would think like 462 00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.880 if he was all in, he would he would like retweet one of the 463 00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:18.319 graphics somebody made of him wearing that, you know, a line eye uniform. 464 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:23.799 Yeah, maybe he's standing on business. Could be could be that he's 465 00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:27.079 not giving him the green light on his end yet because you know, he 466 00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:32.480 told him he's in if they stand on business. Because he's standing on business 467 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:36.240 and he's waiting for them to return the stand on business exactly. It hasn't 468 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:38.920 happened yet. You know, he's a really intriguing player because you know he's 469 00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:41.599 I mean, he's just a hybrid guy, a guy that I think would 470 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:45.559 fit really well with the way Pat Kelsey wants to play. I mean, 471 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.079 he can stretch the floor. Not not a guy who you're going to see 472 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.880 a whole lot, you know, in the paint, as far as a 473 00:29:51.920 --> 00:29:53.400 guy that's going to you know, post up and go to work. But 474 00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.279 you know, at six' nine, he's he's a good enough rebounder, 475 00:29:56.319 --> 00:30:00.319 it appears, and a guy who can really fill it up. And you 476 00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:03.359 can never have too many shooters, especially the way Pat Kelsey wants to play. 477 00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:04.799 So again, I'm not here to tell you that it's fake news that 478 00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.799 he's going to Illinois, but Louisville is still recruiting him and he is not 479 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.759 at all publicly acknowledged it. And you know, I would say that Illinois 480 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.319 hasn't announced it, but that's like these these schools cannot announce it until I 481 00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.319 should get clarification, and maybe I'll reach out to Zach Greenwell and get clarification 482 00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:29.200 on what the process is for transfers. Because it's National Signing Day for recruits, 483 00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:32.079 right, that's when you can acknowledge that these people exist and they're coming 484 00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.759 to play for you. The NSAA still has many dumb rules that are archaic 485 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.799 to where you know, I mean, there's really I mean again of all 486 00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:42.279 the stupid rules, like these coaches can't publicly act like somebody exists, which 487 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:47.680 I don't. Why is that a Why is that against the rules? Like 488 00:30:47.759 --> 00:30:51.319 you know, they're allowed to talk to them, but they can't publicly talk 489 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:53.880 about them. I mean, it's one again, one of the many really 490 00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:57.799 really dumb rules. So we'll see again. I don't want to get anybody's 491 00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:03.559 hopes up, but that would be another nice edition. And I will admit 492 00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:10.519 that that, uh, that that recruitment here of Humrick House was one that 493 00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.359 I was a little late to. And I'm not saying people are wrong, 494 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:15.640 but I was a little surprised to see how many fans really really seemed to 495 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.279 think this guy was some you know, somebody that Pat Kelsey really had to 496 00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:22.440 go get. So, you know, I don't I'll put it this way. 497 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:23.599 I think they're still alive. I don't not going to tell you they 498 00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.079 got a good chance of landing him, but they're still they're still working. 499 00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:32.519 Another name to uh to keep an eye on is a local name, kind 500 00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.279 of. I mean, he plays at bellarmint He's not from uh, he's 501 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.039 not from Louisville, but he's from Georgetown, Indiana. Langdon. Hatton just 502 00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:42.519 finished up his junior season playing for Scott Davenport at Bellerman. He's in the 503 00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:45.359 portal. He's got a lot of schools showing interest in Louisville's one of them. 504 00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:48.720 He averaged ten and a half boards, seven rebounds per game, and 505 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.640 shot fifty percent from the floor. So obviously not a not a not a 506 00:31:52.680 --> 00:31:56.519 sexy name, not somebody that you know, the best schools in the country 507 00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.759 are prioritizing. But you need depth. And I know we, you know, 508 00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:04.200 we talk about that a lot. I hear other fans, you know, 509 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:06.799 fans that I talk to kind of saying the same thing, acknowledging it. 510 00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:08.880 But I still think we lose sight of it at times when we look 511 00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:14.359 at players and their stats and whatnot. You need thirteen players, not because 512 00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.000 you're going to play thirteen players in a game, but you need you need 513 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:21.839 to fill the roster. And I think most teams, I mean, I'll 514 00:32:21.839 --> 00:32:24.920 tell you something, I that I that I believe depth is a little overrated 515 00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:29.720 in basketball. You need it, but like you don't have to have it 516 00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.759 if things are going well, right, if somebody's injured, totally different story. 517 00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.599 Foul trouble get you know, you need guys you can put in. 518 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:38.920 But like you know, some of the best teams I remember watching in college 519 00:32:38.920 --> 00:32:44.000 basketball, they had a core rotation of probably about eight guys now nine or 520 00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.880 ten would play per game, but it was in really rare you know. 521 00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:50.319 It was you know, with with a with forty seconds left, you know, 522 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:52.039 before the next TV time out, Let's get this guy in the game 523 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:54.480 and give one of our starters, you know, a little bit of time 524 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:59.799 to rest. So it's it's not that you know you're going to play all 525 00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.400 the guys, but in order to really grow and develop as a team that 526 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:07.839 is starting from scratch, you're gonna need really competitive practices. And you know, 527 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.240 if you if you don't have a secondary group that can give you some 528 00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:16.279 what of a realistic look as far as what you're gonna see. And I'm 529 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:20.440 not saying you've got to have a backup squad that can be your reserves, 530 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.759 that will give you a look that will you know, reflect what you're gonna 531 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.720 see when you go to Cameron and playing Duke. But you need to have 532 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.400 competitive practices. And uh, I think you know, guys like Hatton and 533 00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:32.559 who knows, maybe he would come to Louisville and be better than I would 534 00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:37.839 expect. But they're gonna add some dudes that probably aren't gonna wow you. 535 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:40.119 But you have to keep in mind, they're they're building an entire roster here, 536 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.920 right. One name I haven't mentioned yet today on the on the Kentucky 537 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.279 side is Kobe Brea, which I believe is I mean, I think he's 538 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:52.079 visiting right now. I think he got to Lexington a couple of days ago, 539 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:57.799 and all signs point to Kentucky being the school that is going to get 540 00:33:57.880 --> 00:33:59.720 him. I mean, you haven't heard anything else, have you, John, 541 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.000 I mean, he is not going to go to Connecticut because they're not. 542 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:07.000 They once they landed the kid from Saint Mary's, they no longer I 543 00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:08.679 mean, I don't think they have a room for the only thing they're waiting 544 00:34:08.719 --> 00:34:13.039 on is whether or not Alex Caravan or carab and however you say his name, 545 00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.480 whether he comes back from or not? Okay, and that's Yukon right, 546 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.840 yes, yeah, so so, but yeah, I mean they're I 547 00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:22.840 mean, they're not in that. They no longer are recruiting him. According 548 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:27.199 to Matt Norlander, so Kentucky seems to be like the only school really in 549 00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:30.840 the mix here and I don't know if he's going to visit elsewhere, but 550 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:34.119 if I I mean, I would expect him to commit maybe any second now. 551 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:37.760 But if he doesn't, would you get worried if you're a Kentucky fan. 552 00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:42.079 I mean, he didn't have to commit while he's there, but I 553 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.280 would think that if he if he leaves Lexington and a couple of days go 554 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:51.159 by, that would mean he's wanting others to get involved and he's still not 555 00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.159 sold, which would be really surprising to me because he would fit perfectly with 556 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:59.519 my with what I mean, he would get a lot of shots, good 557 00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.840 looks in Mark Pope's system, and he's one of the best catch and shoot 558 00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.079 three point shooters in the country. And there's a reason why initially whenever he 559 00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:12.760 hit the portal and was scheduling visits, I mean he again, this guy 560 00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:17.519 was considering Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, North Carolina, and Yukon. Now 561 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:22.840 I think because of some you know, transfer credit stuff, he wasn't going 562 00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:24.840 to be able to go to some of those schools, Duke being one of 563 00:35:24.840 --> 00:35:30.280 them. But this will be a huge get for for Mark Pope, no 564 00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:31.840 doubt, and it seems like it's going to happen. And I know earlier 565 00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:35.519 today, and I'm not keeping up with the Kentucky portal stuff as much as 566 00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:40.199 Kentucky fans and those that you know cover Kentucky, but whenever their assistant coaches 567 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:45.880 started putting out the signals like on social media, which we need to talk 568 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.440 about that later, John, I need to get your like, oh I 569 00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:53.199 think that can you know that's that's your signal or whatever, like like the 570 00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:59.360 little gift they might put out. Fans like it, but like sometimes you 571 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:01.400 know, it can be a little you know, sometimes I think coaches and 572 00:36:01.440 --> 00:36:05.079 I'm not saying anybody in particular, but sometimes coaches really just seem to like 573 00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:07.480 enjoy the attention they get from that, and there's really like, you know, 574 00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:09.519 they jumped the gun a little bit. But whenever one of the Kentucky 575 00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:14.199 assistants put out their signal earlier today, I'm pretty sure just about everybody assumed 576 00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.840 that man it was Kobe Brea, but it ended up being the Garrison kid 577 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:22.679 who transferred from Oklahoma State. So and again right now, this is this 578 00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.880 is according to the not the athletic I'm sorry, the field to sixty eight 579 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:36.480 the top ten transfers currently available in the portal. Osibor Is is number five 580 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.679 and Brea is number eight, and there some other guys will get in. 581 00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.679 You know, there's other name you know, John L. Davis number one, 582 00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.679 Kadari Richmond number two, or nor Chatto Mere number three, Cliff Omrie 583 00:36:47.719 --> 00:36:52.159 I number four. You're a big ten guys, rugs, do you say 584 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.199 it? O? That's a tough one. Yeah, it's a tough one. 585 00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.119 But jonas I do, is the Tennessee guy who committed Darkansas. So 586 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.880 check this out. We'll get to a break in just a second. But 587 00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:06.480 actually we can get into this a little bit more later. Probably not a 588 00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:10.119 great time to bring this up, but John ol' davis number one and a 589 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:14.639 due number six, the kid transferm from Tennessee. He's already committed Arkansas. 590 00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.280 A lot of people believe John ol Davis will commit to Arkansas at an any 591 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:22.280 minute now. So that would be two really big additions for John Caliperry at 592 00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.559 at at Arkansas. And then I don't know if this has slowed down a 593 00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.840 little bit, but when nord Chado Mere and Kadari Richmond Richmond from Seton Hall, 594 00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:36.119 North Chattomere obviously from Miami. That's those are those those guys are both 595 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:38.760 top three portal guys right now. When they initially hit the portal, all 596 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:43.920 signs pointed to those two guys going to play for Rick Patino at Saint John's 597 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.719 not sure if that's cooled off, but that would be humongous for Rick Patino. 598 00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.000 So we'll see, all right, quick break, we'll come back on 599 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:54.239 the other side, talk a little bit more about Actually we haven't talked about 600 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.519 it much at all, but this, uh, this this change coming to 601 00:37:58.559 --> 00:38:01.960 college athletics that is needed. It'll make these college athletes employees, which will, 602 00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.239 more than anything, just make college athletics a lot less hectic with the 603 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.320 portal and nil and all that. The wild wild West, as they say, 604 00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.199 will be no more, it seems. And we'll let you hear your 605 00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.119 first Derby profile of the day, so stick with us right here on Sports 606 00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:22.039 Talk seven ninety. I can tell you, as an adult, I've never 607 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.960 found myself looking to play Will Smith rap. It's not like it's bad, 608 00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:29.320 it's just, you know, kind of corny. Is a lot of people 609 00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:35.199 think it's like the unseasoned, middle aged white dudes' favorite rapper, but he 610 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:37.639 had hits. I mean they were in the nineties, you know they were. 611 00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:39.519 He had a lot of big hits, but I think a lot of 612 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.679 his hits that became like you know, big radio hits, were all like 613 00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:45.719 tied to a movie he was doing. Had this one, which was obviously 614 00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:50.800 Wild Wild West in Black. Oh yeah, no doubt about it. 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And then once we end the hour here, we'll let 641 00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:24.920 you hear your first derby horse profile of the day. Let's go to Eric 642 00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:29.400 Eric here on Sports Talk seven ninety How are you, sir, Jared? 643 00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.079 I enjoyed the show, Thank you. I had a question about the uh 644 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.679 you're gonna talk. I think about the student athletes becoming employees, and I 645 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:42.119 was wondering if they would then come under all the labor laws, I mean, 646 00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.760 with their tuition be taxable, do they have to have be paid a 647 00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:47.920 minimum wage? All those sorts of things. Yeah, And Eric, I 648 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:52.039 think I think that's that's the biggest question, is how that would work. 649 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.679 And I think that's that is what has kept them from doing this for many 650 00:40:54.719 --> 00:41:00.400 many years because of that big you know, the tax situation, lay lost, 651 00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:02.559 that kind of stuff. So, uh, I think the reason you're 652 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.880 seeing these these you know, the commissioners of these power conferences meeting to discuss 653 00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.440 this is because they got to do something. What's going on now is not 654 00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:15.079 sustainable. But as far as the actual framework, I don't know of it 655 00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:19.440 just yet, but I'm sure that that's exactly what they're working on now is 656 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.199 figuring out because actually, I think what you brought up, Eric, is 657 00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:23.920 probably actually a bigger issue for them than, you know, than the money 658 00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:27.719 right, the money to pay players. They have it they make enough of 659 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.000 it. But I think that kind of stuff as far as minimum wage, 660 00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:34.440 the tax situation, I think that's where for so many years they just thought, 661 00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:37.320 well, we could never even open up that door because we couldn't do 662 00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:40.599 it. Well, now it's such a mess with the chaotic NIL world that 663 00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:45.559 they got to do something right. But I think everyone's thinking about basketball and 664 00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.760 football. They're not thinking about field hockey, you know. I mean if 665 00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:52.400 all of them are at all the athletes are employees, then all of them 666 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:53.559 are. So you might have to pay a minimum wage too. Oh yeah, 667 00:41:53.599 --> 00:41:57.199 everybody's gonna get paid, no doubt about it. Eric. I appreciate 668 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:59.599 the phone call and appreciate you listening. Yeah, I mean, look, 669 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.400 you're you're gonna be an employee. You're going to make some type of wage. 670 00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:05.760 Obviously there'll be a minimum wage, and they'll be a wage that is 671 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:09.159 different than that for probably the you know, higher profile sports, and you're 672 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:13.280 gonna sign a contract as an employee, there's going to be a non compete. 673 00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:16.119 You could be terminated. I mean, maybe not a noncompete because now 674 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:22.679 that's apparently illegal, but yeah, it's it's gonna be. I mean, 675 00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.400 we'll see again. What the framework looks like. I guess that's what they're 676 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.000 what they're looking into now. But something like this has to happen because again, 677 00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:35.239 right now, it's just it's just not sustainable. And you know, 678 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.639 you when you sign a contract again, I don't know how this will work 679 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.119 when it comes to non competes, but when you sign a contract, you 680 00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:43.400 know it could be a two year agreement, right so where you know, 681 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.280 hey, you can hit the portal, but not after two years because that's 682 00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.199 what you signed on as or maybe you know, certain players will agree to 683 00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:52.840 sign a one year, maybe some will sign a three year. So who 684 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.519 knows what it'll actually look like, but not a surprise to see, you 685 00:42:55.559 --> 00:43:00.079 know that they're doing. They're they're putting a plan in motion to end what 686 00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:05.000 is currently going on because it's just again not sustainable. All right, let's 687 00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:07.559 do our first Derby profile today. Who do we have? First? John 688 00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:12.679 Honor Marie, Honor Marie. Let's hear it now. Look at the Kentucky 689 00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:20.320 Derby field. One by one Honor Marie Louisiana Derby runner up Honor Marie. 690 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.039 One of those horses that has been training well at Churchill Downs has caught the 691 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:30.199 eye of many on the back side and should be a fairly decent price in 692 00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:35.480 the Kentucky Derby. Honor Marie a bay son of Honor Code, owned by 693 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:40.679 Rebel Farms Llc. Trained by Louisvillion Wit Beckman. He'll be piloted by Ben 694 00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:45.760 Curtis, who would be making his first start in the Kentucky Derby after winning 695 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.639 more than thirty five hundred races in Europe. Honor Marie has two wins and 696 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:57.000 two second place finishes in five career starts. In both of those victories came 697 00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.280 under the Twins Spires at Churchill Down. Honer Marie broke his maiden on his 698 00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:07.960 first attempt back in late September at Churchill Downs, finished second in an optional 699 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:12.599 claiming race at Churchill just one month later, and then on November twenty fifth, 700 00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:15.360 he finished up his two year old year with a victory in the Kentucky 701 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:21.559 Jockey Club. Beckman had Honor Marie at the Fairgrounds in the winter. He 702 00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.760 finished fifth closing a little bit late in the Risen Star that was over a 703 00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:31.360 sloppy track, and then was a good second place finish to Catching Freedom. 704 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:37.119 On March twenty third in the Louisiana Derby. Beckman, a two thousand graduate 705 00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:42.440 of Saint Xavier High School in Louisville, went out on his own a few 706 00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:47.400 years ago. After working for several different trainers, including Hall of famers Chad 707 00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:53.800 Brown and Todd Pletcher. Beckman has his first career Kentucky Derby starter in Louisiana 708 00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:59.559 Derby runner up Honor Marie was old clod. Yeah, it's coolness, you 709 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.360 know, like growing up here at the Derby is it's a holiday. It's 710 00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.480 a big deal, you know. So to me here as a Rugul guy, 711 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:08.320 I know it makes a ton of my friends family, which everybody's so 712 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.000 fonder, you know, so I cheer everybody