Well, the lady anomalous entertainment. You have reached the point of no return?
What what are you reporting? We got someone or something crawling around out
here? Does a legend walk among us working in the forests of our world?
Did you see what it was? Was it a person or an animal?
Or I can't go. All I know is that my denture light came
on and I just have with a glimpse and see this thing running across the
yard, a good side man or something. It looks like a man.
I don't know what it was. For over fifteen years, we've talked with
scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insult and proof around
the existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus great, sure, pel Hello,
get somebody out of here. What's going on? Amount? There's thought able
pictures about sixty foot? All right? I don't know eas the amount there?
Yes, I'm looking right out? Oh? Okay? Is right?
Is he your yard there? Yeah? Got your bigger? Okay? What's
you do in your yard? What can it be? You join us as
we continue into the investigation of the sun as watch experience. All right,
Well, as we found out we're finally on the air, and we apologize
for that. Okay, it's all right, Yeah, no problem. I
didn't get the last of that sentence. What would you attribute to the success
of the International Bigfoot Society two? In terms of you know, collective cohesientists
and you know, just staying together and getting along. No high degree of
variability. It's been forty some odd years now since Patty came up, and
nobody's really done anything positive except those people who've gone out on branches of their
own. So we encourage people to do anything different because with the old wages
aren't working so pretty much as you encourage people to you know, come up
with their own research methods and then collectively share them, you know, to
work towards the common goal of discovering the animal. No, we're going to
dictate on how the research is done. Yeah, exactly. And then I
have a track record that I publish all their results in and so done me
a difference how wild or how far in left field people do things. I
publish it. Anyways. I give them the right of that, and it
keeps new ideas coming in all the time. A lot of my consider a
bit crazy, but still I give the people the right to make their own
observations and print them. One of the questions we have from the squash Media
chat room is from a gentleman by the name of Jeff C. From Ohio,
and Jeff's question is why is it that there's nothing new coming out of
the field. Oh, well, I think the new stuff coming in all
the time. MK Davis has been one of the pioneers to my way of
thinking. I recently had him come and speak at one of our conferences and
find that he's coming up with all types of new concepts. One of them,
for instance, he shows hair waving on top of the thing, implying
that there is no crest that a lot of people thought of. It shows
the thing moving his head from side to side. People used to think they
couldn't move his head at all, that it was sort of fixed between his
shoulders and had to move. And he's come up with it looks like to
be a possible braid in the hair or the thing, which is actually a
cultural phenomena, and things like this are all brand new. We have Don
Monroe working up in Idaho. He's been exploring caves there and he's found evidence
a big foot in the caves and that Mama raises the little ones in the
caves or they're protected, and they actually moved things around. He found a
large altarstone that was covered with bones and he didn't know what they were,
so he sent me one of them and I had it chucked out and belonged
to an extinct form of bison. Why on earth they would do that?
And we have no idea. But it's questions like that that are really on
the forefront of learning new things about the creature. I understand a lot of
the people over on year side of the country frown on Mary Green and the
stuff she's done. But I've read her books and talked with her and met
her and unfully behind the researchers that she's done that she's found a lot of
new things. For instance, it's hibernating when it's school, semi hibernating when
school in caves along the creek banks, things like that. Have you know,
we've been suspected before, but we never had actually anybody come out and
tell us about it. Now, do you think that all the pictures and
purported video that Mary Green has brought out of Tennessee, do you think that's
hurt her credibility in any way. Do you think maybe sometimes that she's gone
out on a limb? Oh? Well, of course, And that's what
I'm saying. The people we respect the most and seemed to be making the
most forward motion are those that do go out on a limb. If you
sit back and sit on material, it didn't do anybody any good, and
we don't learn anything. Every little tiny piece of information that we learn that
we can ascribe to something. Another one of the things she did was talked
about the blackie creature going down on all fours. Since then, I've had
all kinds the reports of the things that are on all fours, and I've
encouraged our people to look close when they see a bear running because it might
very well be a creature down on all fours. Things like this there's brand
new to me. Maybe some of your other people would run across them before,
but I'm just now beginning to get reports to come into this creatures even
out here down down on all fours, I mean, Oregon, if nobody,
if your people don't know where I'm at, right, yeah, right?
Or thank you for coming out. Is that I know this was kind
of the thing as how he has to change our time. I was wondering,
how the heck did you get started on your bigfoot research? Excuse me?
Back in nineteen ninety one, I had a couple of Native American friends
come to a book shop I owned. They told me about the big Foot
phenomena. I, of course was a skeptical and uh, I was wanting
to write a short story at the time about something, and this seemed to
be a good topic. So I went out in the field with him a
few times, and they convinced me there was a possibility of such a creature
as this, and it's been going strong ever since. Well, I read
I read your biography that I got from Henry that those that the guys that
you went out with were a little more extreme, you know, on the
big fought squatch than you believe, and that's why you kind of broke off
in your own doing. Is that why you believe that, you know,
us researchers should do what we can and not, you know, do what
we believe the best way to do it. No, the people I went
out was were the kinds of were there came mouflaged gear and they go armed
and they spend most of the time running back and forth in a truck,
up and down the roads looking for bigfoot. It's I've been a naturalist most
of my life, and you get out and you walk the trails slowly and
quietly and look for significant things. And although I had never up till that
time, found anything that I would have related to a big foot, after
I was told what to look for, that is prints, hair on trees,
broken trees, things of that nature, and I began to find them.
This is what helped convince me there was such a creature. From then
on, everything has been uphill, and I slowly broadened my horizons as I
went. I found things that I didn't care for about other researchers ideas,
so I conceptualized my own. Wait, do you think one of the problems
we have is that we spend too much time trying to camouflage ourselves from these
creatures. People that have sightings of big Foot or sasquatch, they're just doing
their normal, everyday activities. They're not out there with the sole intent of
purposes of finding one. Do you think that maybe we are? You know,
we're trying too hard to conceal ourselves, and that's part of the reason
why we're so unsuccessful, Well, I don't know what it has to do
with the success or not. Because somebody in camel gear has as much chances
running across one as somebody partying and having a beer bust. It's a matter
of chance meetings. So you know, if they want to wear camel gear
and get rid of all the sense that they have beforehand, more power to
them. But that doesn't seem like they're being successful at all. Either it's
still the off chances or the people that are trying to habituate the creatures that
see them the most. Yeah, I think that, you know, what
I'm trying to relate to is the problems that we spend too much, you
know, time out in the field, you know, not doing the typical
things that would attract, you know, get the attention of one of these
creatures, like you know, cooking something interesting that you know that that's new
or different or or what have you out there that might attract you know,
might pick their curiosity to bring them in. Yeah. I've often thought that
myself. But I've been out with people, you know, going out bigfoot
hunting before, and that's all I can do. We keep up with them.
You know, they're tramping along the trails. Is fast, they can
go to put on miles. But like you say, if you sit back
and cook something interests thinking, or even though it's just regular hot dogs or
there's been reports of rabbit cooking that have attracted them in, I do think
yeah, that would be a lot more per firstful, even if nothing more
just setting up potent. They can't like to come in examine tents to see
who or what's in them. Yeah, Ray, let me ask you,
do you think that's that a One of major problems with the field today is
that there's not enough people wanting to cooperate with each other, or perhaps there
are something that personality conflicts and things like that. Well, yes, and
no things like that do happen, But you know, it doesn't make any
difference what fields you're interested in. That is, if people in chemistry or
physics or astronomy, they're all battling each other on the ego trip, but
there's always that group that are you know, quietly is about a fact people
might not even know who they are, but they're busy out there researching things.
Astronomers are out looking for new comments, and physics people are out looking
trying to solve some of the mathematical problems, and progress does get done.
This is why I say I respect the things that Mary Green has done,
because she did go out on a limb. She reported everything. Whether people
thought they'd like it or not, she did it. And that's all in
print. It's going to be there for the rest of their lives, our
lives. And whereas the other people that are doing all the infighting and the
getting on the internet and saying bad things, you know, that's all gone
now. It's in vacuum land. It's not no longer there, so their
opinions don't matter. That's very true. Ray, I have not received the
newest track record yet. We've been sitting out on the floor for sitting here
on the floor for two weeks waiting for me to get postage stamps. I
don't know whether you're aware of it, but I've lost the leg a few
years ago. I don't drive anymore, and I'm defendant fund somebody coming around
to go grocery shop or take take the try had a daughter take the track
record over and be printed, but I haven't been able to veil of her
to get stamps to get the thing's veiled with they're sitting here ready to go
out. And that's just the July issue. The August issue is over the
printer so waiting to be picked up. That's the summary. So they always
run a little light. And I won't even start the September one till after
September is over. Do you do you have an address or something that our
listeners could use to subscribe to that newsletter. Well, sure, it's two
two five North E thirty Avenue, Hillsboro, Oregon, nine seven one two
four And that's just twenty dollars for ten issues. I don't do in November.
In December when I take that off to be with kids and grandkids after
the shell. Right, we'll post the address with your permission, of course,
on our blog. Sure, maybe you'll get a few more subscribers after
that. Well, I hope. So things are running pretty dry. I
think a lot of times that you know, with the with the you know,
more common use of the internet, what have you. I think some
people lose lose that touch that it's nice to have it there in front of
you end paper. Well, yeah, it's nice to have it sit in
the bathroom in the morning too. And flip through it on paper. Besides
which, like I say, almost everything you put on the computer, in
ten years we'll be gone, right. I'll tell you what, I whole
hardly agree with that am bathroom break and meaning to grab the letter. I
swear I almost drop my laptop in the sink one day anyway. So yeah,
the issue of the track record, I have those going all the way
back to number one, and uh so the and other people that have subscribed
to have them also, so they'll be around forever, sort of like maybe
a Burns old newsletter or the lady out of the Bay Area that did it
if her name is slipped me now, don Keating did a newsletter Gostin's Cameron
with her name. Yeah that's true, huh, And I don't know whatever
happened to her. But still people have all these old things. I have
quite a few old ones myself kicking around. I keep wondering if I had
published them or not someday, but so far the resources haven't been there to
do that. We try to do a news letter once, and I tell
you, for the amount of subscribers we had four it just wasn't worth it.
So I commend you on your on your newsletter and personally thank you for
putting it out there for us. I know a lot of us still appreciate
it. I'm great, thank you very much. Yeah, I've had a
lot of fun with it over the years, and it's sort of nice to
be at a central point where information is coming in all the time, interesting
things, sightings, news clips, jokes, all kinds of things are coming
in, especially like some of the art that I use for the covers.
I try to do a different cover every month, whatever the artist is that
sends me in something neat neat. I still have a few of them are
sitting back in reserve yet to use for church and future issues. I got
to tell you where the first time, you know, my wife heard your
name being front around the household many times, but the first time she saw
you was on Scott Harriet's DVD, and she thought you were funnier than Scott
Harriet. And that's why you didn't do your own documentary. Yeah, it's
been a long time ago since that DVD, and I've had a lot of
appearances on other shows and things like that, and I even chuckle at him
myself every now and then. I would recall being on one of the humor
shows ones, you know, they were going to try and make fun of
you and stuff like that. But the guy I was talking about the jetti
and I was talking about it from the Himlas, and he didn't know where
the Himalayas were, so said, will you get a couple of jebs in
at him? That that was equally is you know, what's the sense of
being in this field if you're not going to have a sense of humor about
it? Yeah, I've had a lot of fun. What'd you start to
say, Henry? Oh? Hey, a question? God? That question
from Bill Green. We have a question from Bill Green for you, Ray?
You Hey, Ray, what's your what's new with your organ? Fastbach
Streets or quarter? Have you been interviewed by organ newspapers lately? Thanks for
Bill Green. Oh, I don't think I caught that. What was it?
What was the question again, Henry, Henry, let me translate for
you. It got pixelated, Henry. The question was Ray from Bill Green
in Connecticut? What's new with your organ? Research? Or research and organ
and the newsletter? Oh well, we just finished a week ago. A
week and a half ago, we had our annual get together up at Sweet
home up in the mountain. It was pretty heavily covered, with two pages
in a newspaper covering it. They went out for it, took the reporter
out for a trip in the evening to see if they could raise some big
Foot appearances, but they weren't successful. They were able to do a lot
of screaming with the recorders that's from the Sierra and from the cascade and sounds,
and nothing except the coyote they raised up did here some breaking in the
bushes once. It could have been anything, but other than that, they
had a good trip and it was The reporter enjoyed it, and they're looking
forward to next year. So there's going to be another one next year.
Then, Yeah, we've had them every year and now for the last fourteen
years. They get togethers and I tried to get some interesting guest speakers,
Like I said, I had M. K. Davis come out for this
year's and I had Don Monroe, and we had quite a long list of
people that were there speaking of one aspect or another. Joyce Kearney came up
from the Bay Area and she's into the Native American ideas of big Foot and
so forth. She told us about a kachina doll that she had found over
in New Mexico that had it was furry and it was called locally the Trickster,
and I had very well been based on a big Foot character. MK
of course told I told you already some of the things that he had showed
us. Don and Monroe talked about his caves and had a lot of u
We spent actually two days up there. We had a lot of guests that
we just sent around the campfires talking. Had Peter Byrne come up and had
his daughter. She was recently back from a year down in New Zealand with
friends. She had a lot of experiences to relate from way down there or
in the other hemisphere. And Peter's busy working on his project over in Nepal.
And uh, I can't think of anybody else off hand right now.
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Yeah, Ray, I was just going to ask you about the drop
friend. I know that. Yeah, it's to hold it in Carson,
Washington. Now you hold it in uh just where the sweeth hauld organ.
Yeah, what was that in? I was saying that I know you used
to hold to hold your conferences in Nothing Washington, that you hold them in
sweet hold organ. Oh yes, it's about twenty miles out of Sweet Home,
up in the mountains. There's a place that has a little a frame
places for people to sleep, and a big camp fire area and a covered
picnic area in case it rains, and we've had rain in the past two
It's a pretty nice place. People like it really well, so we've been
going there every year. It's hard to get a reservation, though, so
I'm worried about one of these years we won't be able to get it in
time, in which case will hold them indoor when somewhere else. There's a
several nearby towns places that you can rent. You find that you get a
large turnout. Well, we had forty one this year. But because there's
a reserve only so many sleeping places, we don't advertise wildly. If anybody
wants to come, it's fine, we invite them to. But if we
would advertise widely, we'd have all the town drunks coming in to have a
big bonfire feast and drink out too, So we avoid doing that. Our
advertising is mostly by the way of the newsletter corna like kind of like the
Oregan version of Burning Man. Huh. He has probably so, Yeah,
I've never been down to that festival before, but I understand there's a lot
of fun. Now you've been doing this how many years again in faineteen ninety
one, ninety one? Now have you gotten a lot of have you gotten
a lot of footprints? And do you do a lot of do you do
more of? I know that you've lost your leg and you're probably not as
mobile as you were, But did you do a lot of field research when
you had the ability to, and did you find anything interesting? Yes?
Uh huh. That's early on, and I, of course I didn't believe
there was such a thing for sure. Yea in my group that I told
you that took me out. The matter of fact that there were people around
made me suspect that I was having my leg fold when I had it then,
and so I had to go out several more times before I finally decided
the big foot thing was for real. One of the first things I found
was a little sings print print, barefoot print, and it was in a
dried up mud puddle, but it was in a place where you know,
kids wouldn't be for any reason, or there's no fishing around, So I
suspected that might have been one of the lower critters, but I wasn't really
sure. So I went back by myself and the one anybody else around,
and I walked elk trails, and finally I come across the sixteen sixteen inch
track and the mud coming down a slope, and then I was convinced there
was such a thing as big foot. Since then, I've been out on
several different expeditions where we found tracks and trees broken and uh limbs put up
in a pent like fashion. Made me think that the creatures were around,
and we'd get strange prints sometimes the strangest of the ones that just sort of
disappear for no reason at all. A lot of us been looking for explanations
for that and are not really hitting any any good reasons for it. JAD
going back to something we touched on earlier in the show Ray when you were
talking about researchers going out on the limb. You know, MK Davis,
who's done such great work in the Patterson film, you know, over the
last year or two, has really been stanked over his views on what he
believes Patty is, and his determination, of course, comes from what he's
found in the video. What do you think of MK's assessment. Oh,
I think he's right on the money. I don't care for some of his
conclusions, but in terms of the actual observation, I was able to look
at him myself. I saw a good close up picture of that braid in
Patty's hair. As a matter of fact, it looks like it's even tied
in with a bone or something. I was able to see a digging stick
that she carried and dropped. He's using what he calls a flicker where they
flick between frames so you can actually see this motion. I've seen your head
move all the way back from one position to another, and I've seen the
wind blowing the hair on top of her head where these flicker motions before and
some of the things he conclusions he's drawn I don't agree with. I think
some of the long sloped headedness might because like some of the Indian traditions of
tying a board to the head or using these rope rope type things where they
carry heavy weights with and I think it's just an normal slope of the hip.
There's other things also that I didn't care for his conclusions on it.
He had his digging stick, for instance, he had pictures on it,
one of his sites of rather elaborate one from northern Mexico. I believe it
was. I'm not sure that two or three parts through it as opposed to
this just looks like to be a stick that the thing was carrying and probably
using to turn over rocks and things. There's crawfish and freshwater clams up there
along that quick that can be found easily, and I think that's how it
was. Another thing he found impossible what he says impossible. Another creature in
the woods. Just because the darkening goes on and off and on, the
flicker can't really see anything in actuality, so I'm not sure whether that one's
good or not. Another one where people say they see an arm around the
tree. He actually flickered that and the arm doesn't move at all, meaning
that it's I don't know, a branch or something else. It's not an
arm. So anyways, like I say, these actual observations are just out
of this world, and I'm hoping he makes a lot of brand new ones.
I'll keep working on that tape and others also, I hope. And
this is the background in astronomy is phenomenal anyway, that's what I think of
MK. Nothing but applause for him. We've had, you know, Henry
of course last Thursday night where last Tuesday brow refresh my mind what day it
was specifically was on the X Zone radio show, invited on by one Calcorf.
Cal Corf again raising is raising his head on you know, the Patterson
Gimlin film, and you know, still continuing allowing Greg Long to make his
character assassinations on Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin. No, and I think it's
just a shame. Ray, what do you think about these, you know,
these of course continuous accusations that you know, this film forty years later
still being called a hoax. Yes, uh, there's nothing you can do
about that. Forty years from now people will still be calling you a hope.
But I think it's pretty well proved that it is such a creature.
I did have Greg Long come down and talk at our meetings once. Of
course he angered everybody, but it's still a good meeting. People are still
talking about it yet, and yeah, there's nothing you can do about that.
Then there's gonna be hoaxers out there. Also. Ray Wallace was a
good friend. He's write a lot of stuff with his but we all knew
he was a trickster, and we just sort of took it all in stride.
And it's like you mentioned before about keeping his sense of humor, because
even the most worst worst hoaxers people are telling him stories where they actually see
creatures themselves, and he kept relating these things had in their old ray Wallace.
He had to interved an Indian down around climate falls once and got quite
quite a few bits of interesting information, which I was glad to get in
print. But he's also sent me copies of his tracks too, and they
all looked just phony his heck and you know, big thick things straight up
and down edges obviously outlined when you forget those are the ones he made by
the pieces of wood. But even those have become a historical art effects.
Noalities passed away, And we've James and I have embarked on a project Ray
called a Squatch TV. Well we're making small, little, you know,
twenty minute you know videos, kind of mockumentaries, but you know, on
a serious note, trying to keep the humor up while trying to conduct some
you know, serious research. And our first show, of course, is
on casting a footprint, which neither James or myself has done. So I
think you can expect one of those in the mail ray as soon as I
can get one out of tea. I think you might enjoy it. Okay,
thank you? Yeah, huh yeah. I have some interesting stories on
that myself. Very first one, I tried to cast and plastered very liquid
and I put it into the course of immediately flowed out down into the dut
or. It was pretty funny and ruined the tracker, of course, taking
a while to learn how to do it. James and I were actually out
in the field with our cameraman and we got stopped by the Pennsylvania DCNR,
and he was very very kind to us. And the whole time I was
trying to conceal the fact that I was wearing a Pennsylvania big Foot Society T
shirt, you know, And I tell you what, it's kind of hard
trying to hide your T shirt and explaining while you're casting a footprint. What
a time. Wow, that's very true. The were you able to interview
him and get some information? Oh or not? I suppose if you're trying
to hide your Pennsylvania shirt. I have had some experiences in the past where
I've tried to interview some rangers from the DCNR and they haven't been too friendly
to talk to. After that, they've either gotten you know, blew me
off like it was, you know, seriously dismissive like pop Boulder dash it
doesn't exist. And then you get the people that just won't say worthy,
and they'll just turn around and yes, uh huh, but ever now,
and then you'll get one and you get a good story out of Also,
we used to not worry about it. We knew automatically, and we go
into the ranger stations and asked, especially about the hidden logs. Almost all
of them have a reputation of having logs hidden of people that are reported big
foot sightings. We were never able to prove it and never able to see
one, so we don't know whether they exist or not. But it was
fun asking for him and watching the reactions of the rangers. Although we have
one, we'll have to remember that next video we make, we'll have to
make a point of asking the rangers some random questions because I think that might
actually be a nice thing for the audience to get an idea of that.
One of the other things we were worried about and doing that was the legality
issues of filming someone and and what you got to ask their permission, Yes,
if you're going to fill them. Yeah, we weren't carrying around any
of those papers that said you wouldn't see us for using your pictures were interesting
enough. Ray a couple of years ago, was on an expedition with the
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society and Ranger Tim Cassidy. He and I were actually what we
came across what we thought was a was a nesting area, and we found
something that looked like a large cane tooth, much bigger than our own,
about the size of my you know, maybe a little smaller than my pinky,
yeah, you know. And Ranger Tim took it around to several of
the different rangers inst you know, anybody if they knew what this was,
and of course no one could give them an answer. I find it funny
that when we sent it out for something to look at, we get a
response saying it was a dear hoof core yea, And they're raring themselves defined
And I've never heard of anything coming back as a deer hoof coore. I
don't know, man, I do we have some pretty big mule deers out
here, and uh you was given a bone once supposedly from Florida, probably
was from Florida. It was supposed to be a finger bone of a sas
squatch, or I should say, rather that one of these uh ten foot
skeletons that they find in the ground, whether it was a sasquatch or not,
And that's not thought to doctor Grover Cramps and he says, oh,
this is easy, and it's ankle bone of a deer. And so there's
big mule deers. And fortuitously, a couple of months afterwards, I found
a dead uh skeleton of a mule deer and looked down around the ankles,
and sure enough there was an exacting match. I gave that to somebody I
don't even remember who now. So the olden kicking around that point being is
you know, you wanted to send things like that to somebody who really knows
was what they're doing, and to get an answer. That's why I took
that mentioned that bone that I got from Don Monroe's teave. I took us
to the Oregon Archaeological Society and I had a specialist look at it as sous
I will identify it as a knee bone of extinct licen. Interesting and I
have a question from w B d I G. He says, does Ray
think was mistakenly used the PG film to judge the authentivity of other videos?
Well, something about the PG film to do what? I'm sorry I didn't
get that question. I believe Henry was asking a question from the chat room
from Less Virginia big is it? Do you believe it's a mistake to,
you know, use the Patterson film and comparison to the other ask which films
out there? No, absolutely not. Why why? I don't know why
they even think it would be a mistake. It's a probably the gold standard
of all bigfoot films, and then we're able to judge from that. But
we find a lot of variations in different bigfoot body structures and things that we're
learning a lot from that. Females or males are all from different garden.
I'd excuse my cold. I believe that was a sneeze, right right,
Okay, heard a noise in the background and lost it. Quiet or I'm
sorry, it's that allergy season kicking up. Yeah, I should think I'd
be pretty much over back there. I would say they're in I'm not to
be an up ray around here right now. It's starting to pick up pretty
severe. A lot of people coming down with sinus infections and all these allergies
really kicking up. I think like six out of the ten people you talk
to, everybody's having problems with allergies. So what it is, it's the
leather changes and as the plants start to die, alling gets higher in the
air. Plus fact, there a lot of times you're mowing and weed whacking
plants because it's getting to be autumn, and so a lot of the stuff
is just flying in the air. Huh. Wife had me slaving away in
the yard yesterday. I understand completely thanks to one the bigfoot has the same
problem. You know, there's an awful lot of people that report they're not.
One of them are noises as being wheezing in the morning. If that
might have something to do with it also an allergy or a breathing problem.
It's sort of like bulldogs they have that causes them to squeeze. Isn't sorry?
You go on with what you were saying. No, No, actually,
that's a really interesting idea. I mean, Sean, I might have
to look into that if if maybe the big Foot, you know that we
hear more sounds when the weather changes. One of the things that you said
there that that's interesting to me is, you know, is it a breathing
problem If a sasquatch does live in caves, in fact, the air quality
is going to be a lot different in terms of you know, what they're
actually breathing in. And perhaps some sort of adaptation or whatever you'd like to
call it has caused them to become more suitable for that air. You know,
sometimes there's more of a you know, sul you know, sulfur in
the air, what have you. And as opposed to them coming up to
the surface and on land, you know, maybe them kind of getting sort
of an asshixiation from the oxygen level or you know, just being a completely
you know, different enough to cause them to have a slight problem. I
don't really know what the answer is. No, They're one of the things
that where you just keep collecting information on and yeah, sort of a hit
list of weird things anonomies I call them, and maybe once I'll get something
that was completely off the wall. Like I mentioned, they're running around on
all fours. That was the only report I had until I started looking into
it, and the more I gotten into the war reports, I started running
it across, so the actually believed it. Then a content from the chat
room we just got regarding the big foot breathing difficulty from thunder Hawks saying it's
the big Foot Stars. It's a big foot foot stars that the respiratory virus
or infection that was going around up in you know, parts of Canada and
over and China and whatnot. It's the big Foot Stars. Okay, I'm
not familiar with that, I guess. And uh like the bird flow the
bird again, kind of like the bird flow, Yeah, okay, huh.
And he walked around in his country. I think he's from the Dales,
put up east up to clock of this drainage system. And we had
a report once the guy had gone in and he had found a dead deer
with a head gone never did find the head, big foot tracks all around
it, and he'd gone down and it was important, and he'd gone down
to the ranger station and had a ranger come back with him and documented,
and she plaster cast in some of those tracks and took him back to the
ranger station and they smelled so bad they didn't keep him around, and sort
of interesting to get that neat confirmation of killing a deer magic melt that in
and just threw it in and getting close to the end of year show.
Now, okay, fALS, we're gonna take another break and we will be
right back. And guys, what a great show we've had here tonight.
Ray, thank you so very much for joining us. Appreciate you taking the
time out and sitting down and discussing Sasquatch with us here at the Sasquatch Experience.
Yeah, you're more than welcome to Sean, you know, once again,
beginning to Henry also, go ahead, Ray apout it no problem.
Oh you said you'd buy to Henry also and h yeah, there's no problem
at all. I enjoyed being on your show, Sean. Well, we
enjoy having your Ray. And once again i'd like to say thank you for
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