WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:31.399 Well, the lady anomalous entertainment. You have reached the point of no return? 2 00:00:35.960 --> 00:00:41.399 What what are you reporting? We got someone or something crawling around out 3 00:00:41.439 --> 00:00:50.320 here? Does a legend walk among us working in the forests of our world? 4 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:57.000 Did you see what it was? Was it a person or an animal? 5 00:00:57.119 --> 00:00:59.920 Or I can't go. All I know is that my denture light came 6 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:03.119 on and I just have with a glimpse and see this thing running across the 7 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.280 yard, a good side man or something. It looks like a man. 8 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:14.519 I don't know what it was. For over fifteen years, we've talked with 9 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:21.319 scientists, researchers, investigators, and witnesses trying to gain insult and proof around 10 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:29.359 the existence of this mysterious entity. Jesus great, sure, pel Hello, 11 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:33.840 get somebody out of here. What's going on? Amount? There's thought able 12 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:37.319 pictures about sixty foot? All right? I don't know eas the amount there? 13 00:01:37.519 --> 00:01:41.920 Yes, I'm looking right out? Oh? Okay? Is right? 14 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.760 Is he your yard there? Yeah? Got your bigger? Okay? What's 15 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:55.680 you do in your yard? What can it be? You join us as 16 00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:15.719 we continue into the investigation of the sun as watch experience. All right, 17 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:17.319 Well, as we found out we're finally on the air, and we apologize 18 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:22.960 for that. Okay, it's all right, Yeah, no problem. I 19 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:28.400 didn't get the last of that sentence. What would you attribute to the success 20 00:02:28.439 --> 00:02:31.400 of the International Bigfoot Society two? In terms of you know, collective cohesientists 21 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:36.039 and you know, just staying together and getting along. No high degree of 22 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:42.520 variability. It's been forty some odd years now since Patty came up, and 23 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:50.280 nobody's really done anything positive except those people who've gone out on branches of their 24 00:02:50.319 --> 00:02:57.360 own. So we encourage people to do anything different because with the old wages 25 00:02:57.400 --> 00:03:02.560 aren't working so pretty much as you encourage people to you know, come up 26 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:07.039 with their own research methods and then collectively share them, you know, to 27 00:03:07.319 --> 00:03:10.360 work towards the common goal of discovering the animal. No, we're going to 28 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.199 dictate on how the research is done. Yeah, exactly. And then I 29 00:03:15.280 --> 00:03:20.240 have a track record that I publish all their results in and so done me 30 00:03:20.360 --> 00:03:23.520 a difference how wild or how far in left field people do things. I 31 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:28.840 publish it. Anyways. I give them the right of that, and it 32 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:34.400 keeps new ideas coming in all the time. A lot of my consider a 33 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:39.919 bit crazy, but still I give the people the right to make their own 34 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:47.240 observations and print them. One of the questions we have from the squash Media 35 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:52.199 chat room is from a gentleman by the name of Jeff C. From Ohio, 36 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:55.840 and Jeff's question is why is it that there's nothing new coming out of 37 00:03:55.879 --> 00:04:00.319 the field. Oh, well, I think the new stuff coming in all 38 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:04.960 the time. MK Davis has been one of the pioneers to my way of 39 00:04:05.000 --> 00:04:10.599 thinking. I recently had him come and speak at one of our conferences and 40 00:04:11.360 --> 00:04:15.879 find that he's coming up with all types of new concepts. One of them, 41 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.240 for instance, he shows hair waving on top of the thing, implying 42 00:04:19.319 --> 00:04:25.079 that there is no crest that a lot of people thought of. It shows 43 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.720 the thing moving his head from side to side. People used to think they 44 00:04:29.839 --> 00:04:33.600 couldn't move his head at all, that it was sort of fixed between his 45 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:39.680 shoulders and had to move. And he's come up with it looks like to 46 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:44.680 be a possible braid in the hair or the thing, which is actually a 47 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:50.000 cultural phenomena, and things like this are all brand new. We have Don 48 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:56.920 Monroe working up in Idaho. He's been exploring caves there and he's found evidence 49 00:04:56.920 --> 00:05:02.199 a big foot in the caves and that Mama raises the little ones in the 50 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:09.959 caves or they're protected, and they actually moved things around. He found a 51 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:15.439 large altarstone that was covered with bones and he didn't know what they were, 52 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.800 so he sent me one of them and I had it chucked out and belonged 53 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:23.800 to an extinct form of bison. Why on earth they would do that? 54 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.120 And we have no idea. But it's questions like that that are really on 55 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:33.720 the forefront of learning new things about the creature. I understand a lot of 56 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:40.800 the people over on year side of the country frown on Mary Green and the 57 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:45.399 stuff she's done. But I've read her books and talked with her and met 58 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:51.000 her and unfully behind the researchers that she's done that she's found a lot of 59 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:59.319 new things. For instance, it's hibernating when it's school, semi hibernating when 60 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:04.439 school in caves along the creek banks, things like that. Have you know, 61 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:10.240 we've been suspected before, but we never had actually anybody come out and 62 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:15.519 tell us about it. Now, do you think that all the pictures and 63 00:06:16.279 --> 00:06:20.879 purported video that Mary Green has brought out of Tennessee, do you think that's 64 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:25.480 hurt her credibility in any way. Do you think maybe sometimes that she's gone 65 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.560 out on a limb? Oh? Well, of course, And that's what 66 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:31.879 I'm saying. The people we respect the most and seemed to be making the 67 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:36.639 most forward motion are those that do go out on a limb. If you 68 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:41.720 sit back and sit on material, it didn't do anybody any good, and 69 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:46.240 we don't learn anything. Every little tiny piece of information that we learn that 70 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:53.240 we can ascribe to something. Another one of the things she did was talked 71 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:59.480 about the blackie creature going down on all fours. Since then, I've had 72 00:06:59.519 --> 00:07:02.439 all kinds the reports of the things that are on all fours, and I've 73 00:07:02.680 --> 00:07:08.399 encouraged our people to look close when they see a bear running because it might 74 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:13.680 very well be a creature down on all fours. Things like this there's brand 75 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.120 new to me. Maybe some of your other people would run across them before, 76 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:23.839 but I'm just now beginning to get reports to come into this creatures even 77 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:28.920 out here down down on all fours, I mean, Oregon, if nobody, 78 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:36.639 if your people don't know where I'm at, right, yeah, right? 79 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:41.560 Or thank you for coming out. Is that I know this was kind 80 00:07:41.600 --> 00:07:46.000 of the thing as how he has to change our time. I was wondering, 81 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:50.800 how the heck did you get started on your bigfoot research? Excuse me? 82 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:58.160 Back in nineteen ninety one, I had a couple of Native American friends 83 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.199 come to a book shop I owned. They told me about the big Foot 84 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:07.199 phenomena. I, of course was a skeptical and uh, I was wanting 85 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.120 to write a short story at the time about something, and this seemed to 86 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:16.000 be a good topic. So I went out in the field with him a 87 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:22.279 few times, and they convinced me there was a possibility of such a creature 88 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:30.319 as this, and it's been going strong ever since. Well, I read 89 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:37.440 I read your biography that I got from Henry that those that the guys that 90 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.120 you went out with were a little more extreme, you know, on the 91 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:43.679 big fought squatch than you believe, and that's why you kind of broke off 92 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:48.200 in your own doing. Is that why you believe that, you know, 93 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.679 us researchers should do what we can and not, you know, do what 94 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:56.480 we believe the best way to do it. No, the people I went 95 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.240 out was were the kinds of were there came mouflaged gear and they go armed 96 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.159 and they spend most of the time running back and forth in a truck, 97 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:13.399 up and down the roads looking for bigfoot. It's I've been a naturalist most 98 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.600 of my life, and you get out and you walk the trails slowly and 99 00:09:18.639 --> 00:09:26.200 quietly and look for significant things. And although I had never up till that 100 00:09:26.360 --> 00:09:31.360 time, found anything that I would have related to a big foot, after 101 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.279 I was told what to look for, that is prints, hair on trees, 102 00:09:35.480 --> 00:09:39.200 broken trees, things of that nature, and I began to find them. 103 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:43.320 This is what helped convince me there was such a creature. From then 104 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:48.879 on, everything has been uphill, and I slowly broadened my horizons as I 105 00:09:48.960 --> 00:09:56.679 went. I found things that I didn't care for about other researchers ideas, 106 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:05.440 so I conceptualized my own. Wait, do you think one of the problems 107 00:10:05.480 --> 00:10:09.919 we have is that we spend too much time trying to camouflage ourselves from these 108 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:13.960 creatures. People that have sightings of big Foot or sasquatch, they're just doing 109 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.039 their normal, everyday activities. They're not out there with the sole intent of 110 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:22.440 purposes of finding one. Do you think that maybe we are? You know, 111 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:24.679 we're trying too hard to conceal ourselves, and that's part of the reason 112 00:10:24.720 --> 00:10:28.320 why we're so unsuccessful, Well, I don't know what it has to do 113 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:33.480 with the success or not. Because somebody in camel gear has as much chances 114 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:41.559 running across one as somebody partying and having a beer bust. It's a matter 115 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:46.240 of chance meetings. So you know, if they want to wear camel gear 116 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:52.080 and get rid of all the sense that they have beforehand, more power to 117 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:58.120 them. But that doesn't seem like they're being successful at all. Either it's 118 00:10:58.200 --> 00:11:03.879 still the off chances or the people that are trying to habituate the creatures that 119 00:11:03.000 --> 00:11:07.720 see them the most. Yeah, I think that, you know, what 120 00:11:07.759 --> 00:11:09.679 I'm trying to relate to is the problems that we spend too much, you 121 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.759 know, time out in the field, you know, not doing the typical 122 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:16.320 things that would attract, you know, get the attention of one of these 123 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:20.519 creatures, like you know, cooking something interesting that you know that that's new 124 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:22.879 or different or or what have you out there that might attract you know, 125 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:28.120 might pick their curiosity to bring them in. Yeah. I've often thought that 126 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:33.399 myself. But I've been out with people, you know, going out bigfoot 127 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:35.480 hunting before, and that's all I can do. We keep up with them. 128 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.559 You know, they're tramping along the trails. Is fast, they can 129 00:11:39.559 --> 00:11:45.519 go to put on miles. But like you say, if you sit back 130 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.879 and cook something interests thinking, or even though it's just regular hot dogs or 131 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:56.679 there's been reports of rabbit cooking that have attracted them in, I do think 132 00:11:56.759 --> 00:12:01.200 yeah, that would be a lot more per firstful, even if nothing more 133 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:07.159 just setting up potent. They can't like to come in examine tents to see 134 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:13.559 who or what's in them. Yeah, Ray, let me ask you, 135 00:12:13.919 --> 00:12:20.360 do you think that's that a One of major problems with the field today is 136 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:26.480 that there's not enough people wanting to cooperate with each other, or perhaps there 137 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:31.440 are something that personality conflicts and things like that. Well, yes, and 138 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:35.600 no things like that do happen, But you know, it doesn't make any 139 00:12:37.039 --> 00:12:41.159 difference what fields you're interested in. That is, if people in chemistry or 140 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:46.759 physics or astronomy, they're all battling each other on the ego trip, but 141 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.759 there's always that group that are you know, quietly is about a fact people 142 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.960 might not even know who they are, but they're busy out there researching things. 143 00:12:56.759 --> 00:13:01.320 Astronomers are out looking for new comments, and physics people are out looking 144 00:13:01.360 --> 00:13:09.080 trying to solve some of the mathematical problems, and progress does get done. 145 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:13.639 This is why I say I respect the things that Mary Green has done, 146 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:20.320 because she did go out on a limb. She reported everything. Whether people 147 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.200 thought they'd like it or not, she did it. And that's all in 148 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.080 print. It's going to be there for the rest of their lives, our 149 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:33.000 lives. And whereas the other people that are doing all the infighting and the 150 00:13:33.639 --> 00:13:37.240 getting on the internet and saying bad things, you know, that's all gone 151 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:43.440 now. It's in vacuum land. It's not no longer there, so their 152 00:13:43.480 --> 00:13:50.320 opinions don't matter. That's very true. Ray, I have not received the 153 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:56.519 newest track record yet. We've been sitting out on the floor for sitting here 154 00:13:56.519 --> 00:14:01.639 on the floor for two weeks waiting for me to get postage stamps. I 155 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:05.360 don't know whether you're aware of it, but I've lost the leg a few 156 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:11.840 years ago. I don't drive anymore, and I'm defendant fund somebody coming around 157 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.799 to go grocery shop or take take the try had a daughter take the track 158 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:22.799 record over and be printed, but I haven't been able to veil of her 159 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:28.799 to get stamps to get the thing's veiled with they're sitting here ready to go 160 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.320 out. And that's just the July issue. The August issue is over the 161 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:37.519 printer so waiting to be picked up. That's the summary. So they always 162 00:14:37.600 --> 00:14:41.120 run a little light. And I won't even start the September one till after 163 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:48.600 September is over. Do you do you have an address or something that our 164 00:14:48.639 --> 00:14:56.159 listeners could use to subscribe to that newsletter. Well, sure, it's two 165 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:07.759 two five North E thirty Avenue, Hillsboro, Oregon, nine seven one two 166 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:13.759 four And that's just twenty dollars for ten issues. I don't do in November. 167 00:15:13.759 --> 00:15:20.519 In December when I take that off to be with kids and grandkids after 168 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:24.759 the shell. Right, we'll post the address with your permission, of course, 169 00:15:24.799 --> 00:15:28.360 on our blog. Sure, maybe you'll get a few more subscribers after 170 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.960 that. Well, I hope. So things are running pretty dry. I 171 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.559 think a lot of times that you know, with the with the you know, 172 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.840 more common use of the internet, what have you. I think some 173 00:15:39.879 --> 00:15:43.200 people lose lose that touch that it's nice to have it there in front of 174 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:48.279 you end paper. Well, yeah, it's nice to have it sit in 175 00:15:48.279 --> 00:15:52.320 the bathroom in the morning too. And flip through it on paper. Besides 176 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.360 which, like I say, almost everything you put on the computer, in 177 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:00.840 ten years we'll be gone, right. I'll tell you what, I whole 178 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:06.639 hardly agree with that am bathroom break and meaning to grab the letter. I 179 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:11.919 swear I almost drop my laptop in the sink one day anyway. So yeah, 180 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:15.519 the issue of the track record, I have those going all the way 181 00:16:15.559 --> 00:16:22.360 back to number one, and uh so the and other people that have subscribed 182 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:29.039 to have them also, so they'll be around forever, sort of like maybe 183 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:36.519 a Burns old newsletter or the lady out of the Bay Area that did it 184 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:44.559 if her name is slipped me now, don Keating did a newsletter Gostin's Cameron 185 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:48.759 with her name. Yeah that's true, huh, And I don't know whatever 186 00:16:48.799 --> 00:16:52.159 happened to her. But still people have all these old things. I have 187 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:59.919 quite a few old ones myself kicking around. I keep wondering if I had 188 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.799 published them or not someday, but so far the resources haven't been there to 189 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:11.000 do that. We try to do a news letter once, and I tell 190 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:15.799 you, for the amount of subscribers we had four it just wasn't worth it. 191 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:22.079 So I commend you on your on your newsletter and personally thank you for 192 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:23.799 putting it out there for us. I know a lot of us still appreciate 193 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:29.839 it. I'm great, thank you very much. Yeah, I've had a 194 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.000 lot of fun with it over the years, and it's sort of nice to 195 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:40.440 be at a central point where information is coming in all the time, interesting 196 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:45.759 things, sightings, news clips, jokes, all kinds of things are coming 197 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:49.119 in, especially like some of the art that I use for the covers. 198 00:17:49.160 --> 00:17:56.279 I try to do a different cover every month, whatever the artist is that 199 00:17:56.400 --> 00:18:00.759 sends me in something neat neat. I still have a few of them are 200 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:07.799 sitting back in reserve yet to use for church and future issues. I got 201 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:11.440 to tell you where the first time, you know, my wife heard your 202 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.680 name being front around the household many times, but the first time she saw 203 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:21.480 you was on Scott Harriet's DVD, and she thought you were funnier than Scott 204 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:25.519 Harriet. And that's why you didn't do your own documentary. Yeah, it's 205 00:18:25.559 --> 00:18:29.759 been a long time ago since that DVD, and I've had a lot of 206 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.519 appearances on other shows and things like that, and I even chuckle at him 207 00:18:33.559 --> 00:18:41.200 myself every now and then. I would recall being on one of the humor 208 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:44.839 shows ones, you know, they were going to try and make fun of 209 00:18:44.920 --> 00:18:48.279 you and stuff like that. But the guy I was talking about the jetti 210 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:52.440 and I was talking about it from the Himlas, and he didn't know where 211 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.960 the Himalayas were, so said, will you get a couple of jebs in 212 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:03.119 at him? That that was equally is you know, what's the sense of 213 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.599 being in this field if you're not going to have a sense of humor about 214 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:10.160 it? Yeah, I've had a lot of fun. What'd you start to 215 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:15.240 say, Henry? Oh? Hey, a question? God? That question 216 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:18.440 from Bill Green. We have a question from Bill Green for you, Ray? 217 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:25.039 You Hey, Ray, what's your what's new with your organ? Fastbach 218 00:19:25.039 --> 00:19:27.920 Streets or quarter? Have you been interviewed by organ newspapers lately? Thanks for 219 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:32.559 Bill Green. Oh, I don't think I caught that. What was it? 220 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:37.880 What was the question again, Henry, Henry, let me translate for 221 00:19:37.960 --> 00:19:41.880 you. It got pixelated, Henry. The question was Ray from Bill Green 222 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:47.160 in Connecticut? What's new with your organ? Research? Or research and organ 223 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:53.079 and the newsletter? Oh well, we just finished a week ago. A 224 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:57.839 week and a half ago, we had our annual get together up at Sweet 225 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:03.319 home up in the mountain. It was pretty heavily covered, with two pages 226 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:08.400 in a newspaper covering it. They went out for it, took the reporter 227 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:15.799 out for a trip in the evening to see if they could raise some big 228 00:20:15.839 --> 00:20:22.279 Foot appearances, but they weren't successful. They were able to do a lot 229 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:32.400 of screaming with the recorders that's from the Sierra and from the cascade and sounds, 230 00:20:33.599 --> 00:20:37.640 and nothing except the coyote they raised up did here some breaking in the 231 00:20:37.680 --> 00:20:41.559 bushes once. It could have been anything, but other than that, they 232 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:48.000 had a good trip and it was The reporter enjoyed it, and they're looking 233 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:56.720 forward to next year. So there's going to be another one next year. 234 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:02.279 Then, Yeah, we've had them every year and now for the last fourteen 235 00:21:02.359 --> 00:21:07.119 years. They get togethers and I tried to get some interesting guest speakers, 236 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.119 Like I said, I had M. K. Davis come out for this 237 00:21:11.319 --> 00:21:18.920 year's and I had Don Monroe, and we had quite a long list of 238 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:25.039 people that were there speaking of one aspect or another. Joyce Kearney came up 239 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:32.559 from the Bay Area and she's into the Native American ideas of big Foot and 240 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:36.920 so forth. She told us about a kachina doll that she had found over 241 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:45.279 in New Mexico that had it was furry and it was called locally the Trickster, 242 00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:51.000 and I had very well been based on a big Foot character. MK 243 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.400 of course told I told you already some of the things that he had showed 244 00:21:53.480 --> 00:22:00.720 us. Don and Monroe talked about his caves and had a lot of u 245 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:06.359 We spent actually two days up there. We had a lot of guests that 246 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:11.799 we just sent around the campfires talking. Had Peter Byrne come up and had 247 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:15.799 his daughter. She was recently back from a year down in New Zealand with 248 00:22:17.559 --> 00:22:23.119 friends. She had a lot of experiences to relate from way down there or 249 00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:30.079 in the other hemisphere. And Peter's busy working on his project over in Nepal. 250 00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:36.559 And uh, I can't think of anybody else off hand right now. 251 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.240 Well, hey, Ray, we gotta take a small break for a minute 252 00:22:41.279 --> 00:22:45.279 here. We'll get right back to a right afterwards. Con Okay, sure 253 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:49.880 enough, I gotta take a break to myself. 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I hear 262 00:24:00.759 --> 00:24:11.200 on blog Todd Radio close your eyes, open your mind, and prepared at 263 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:18.799 that sale on the mysterious theme of adventure. You won't believe you're going to 264 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:36.680 hear you on the radio. The Squash Media production and really that ache thank 265 00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:45.880 of men at the show. Oh I love that promo. That's very cool. 266 00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:49.839 Yeah, Ray, I was just going to ask you about the drop 267 00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:56.680 friend. I know that. Yeah, it's to hold it in Carson, 268 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.000 Washington. Now you hold it in uh just where the sweeth hauld organ. 269 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:08.079 Yeah, what was that in? I was saying that I know you used 270 00:25:08.079 --> 00:25:12.200 to hold to hold your conferences in Nothing Washington, that you hold them in 271 00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:17.759 sweet hold organ. Oh yes, it's about twenty miles out of Sweet Home, 272 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.720 up in the mountains. There's a place that has a little a frame 273 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:27.279 places for people to sleep, and a big camp fire area and a covered 274 00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:32.839 picnic area in case it rains, and we've had rain in the past two 275 00:25:33.119 --> 00:25:37.480 It's a pretty nice place. People like it really well, so we've been 276 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:41.880 going there every year. It's hard to get a reservation, though, so 277 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.799 I'm worried about one of these years we won't be able to get it in 278 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:52.200 time, in which case will hold them indoor when somewhere else. There's a 279 00:25:52.279 --> 00:26:07.079 several nearby towns places that you can rent. You find that you get a 280 00:26:07.160 --> 00:26:14.559 large turnout. Well, we had forty one this year. But because there's 281 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:22.440 a reserve only so many sleeping places, we don't advertise wildly. If anybody 282 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.039 wants to come, it's fine, we invite them to. But if we 283 00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:32.000 would advertise widely, we'd have all the town drunks coming in to have a 284 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:37.279 big bonfire feast and drink out too, So we avoid doing that. Our 285 00:26:37.359 --> 00:26:41.799 advertising is mostly by the way of the newsletter corna like kind of like the 286 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:48.359 Oregan version of Burning Man. Huh. He has probably so, Yeah, 287 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.079 I've never been down to that festival before, but I understand there's a lot 288 00:26:52.119 --> 00:27:08.160 of fun. Now you've been doing this how many years again in faineteen ninety 289 00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:14.720 one, ninety one? Now have you gotten a lot of have you gotten 290 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:17.799 a lot of footprints? And do you do a lot of do you do 291 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:19.920 more of? I know that you've lost your leg and you're probably not as 292 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:25.920 mobile as you were, But did you do a lot of field research when 293 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:30.240 you had the ability to, and did you find anything interesting? Yes? 294 00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:34.119 Uh huh. That's early on, and I, of course I didn't believe 295 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:38.440 there was such a thing for sure. Yea in my group that I told 296 00:27:38.440 --> 00:27:42.119 you that took me out. The matter of fact that there were people around 297 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:48.079 made me suspect that I was having my leg fold when I had it then, 298 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:53.759 and so I had to go out several more times before I finally decided 299 00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:59.200 the big foot thing was for real. One of the first things I found 300 00:27:59.279 --> 00:28:03.960 was a little sings print print, barefoot print, and it was in a 301 00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:07.279 dried up mud puddle, but it was in a place where you know, 302 00:28:07.480 --> 00:28:11.720 kids wouldn't be for any reason, or there's no fishing around, So I 303 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:18.680 suspected that might have been one of the lower critters, but I wasn't really 304 00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:22.960 sure. So I went back by myself and the one anybody else around, 305 00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:30.119 and I walked elk trails, and finally I come across the sixteen sixteen inch 306 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:34.440 track and the mud coming down a slope, and then I was convinced there 307 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.960 was such a thing as big foot. Since then, I've been out on 308 00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:48.119 several different expeditions where we found tracks and trees broken and uh limbs put up 309 00:28:48.200 --> 00:28:56.279 in a pent like fashion. Made me think that the creatures were around, 310 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:02.000 and we'd get strange prints sometimes the strangest of the ones that just sort of 311 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:07.240 disappear for no reason at all. A lot of us been looking for explanations 312 00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:14.960 for that and are not really hitting any any good reasons for it. JAD 313 00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:23.720 going back to something we touched on earlier in the show Ray when you were 314 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:29.680 talking about researchers going out on the limb. You know, MK Davis, 315 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:33.119 who's done such great work in the Patterson film, you know, over the 316 00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:37.680 last year or two, has really been stanked over his views on what he 317 00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.279 believes Patty is, and his determination, of course, comes from what he's 318 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.200 found in the video. What do you think of MK's assessment. Oh, 319 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.400 I think he's right on the money. I don't care for some of his 320 00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:53.240 conclusions, but in terms of the actual observation, I was able to look 321 00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:57.519 at him myself. I saw a good close up picture of that braid in 322 00:29:57.599 --> 00:30:02.240 Patty's hair. As a matter of fact, it looks like it's even tied 323 00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:07.559 in with a bone or something. I was able to see a digging stick 324 00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:14.359 that she carried and dropped. He's using what he calls a flicker where they 325 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.920 flick between frames so you can actually see this motion. I've seen your head 326 00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:23.240 move all the way back from one position to another, and I've seen the 327 00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:30.599 wind blowing the hair on top of her head where these flicker motions before and 328 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:37.920 some of the things he conclusions he's drawn I don't agree with. I think 329 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:44.880 some of the long sloped headedness might because like some of the Indian traditions of 330 00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:52.440 tying a board to the head or using these rope rope type things where they 331 00:30:52.440 --> 00:30:59.920 carry heavy weights with and I think it's just an normal slope of the hip. 332 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:07.799 There's other things also that I didn't care for his conclusions on it. 333 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:12.079 He had his digging stick, for instance, he had pictures on it, 334 00:31:12.240 --> 00:31:18.519 one of his sites of rather elaborate one from northern Mexico. I believe it 335 00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:26.119 was. I'm not sure that two or three parts through it as opposed to 336 00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.519 this just looks like to be a stick that the thing was carrying and probably 337 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:40.160 using to turn over rocks and things. There's crawfish and freshwater clams up there 338 00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:45.160 along that quick that can be found easily, and I think that's how it 339 00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:52.039 was. Another thing he found impossible what he says impossible. Another creature in 340 00:31:52.119 --> 00:31:57.480 the woods. Just because the darkening goes on and off and on, the 341 00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:06.359 flicker can't really see anything in actuality, so I'm not sure whether that one's 342 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.359 good or not. Another one where people say they see an arm around the 343 00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:15.319 tree. He actually flickered that and the arm doesn't move at all, meaning 344 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:20.440 that it's I don't know, a branch or something else. It's not an 345 00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:24.799 arm. So anyways, like I say, these actual observations are just out 346 00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:30.759 of this world, and I'm hoping he makes a lot of brand new ones. 347 00:32:31.359 --> 00:32:37.319 I'll keep working on that tape and others also, I hope. And 348 00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:43.079 this is the background in astronomy is phenomenal anyway, that's what I think of 349 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:51.319 MK. Nothing but applause for him. We've had, you know, Henry 350 00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:54.279 of course last Thursday night where last Tuesday brow refresh my mind what day it 351 00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:59.799 was specifically was on the X Zone radio show, invited on by one Calcorf. 352 00:33:00.880 --> 00:33:06.599 Cal Corf again raising is raising his head on you know, the Patterson 353 00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:13.160 Gimlin film, and you know, still continuing allowing Greg Long to make his 354 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:19.119 character assassinations on Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin. No, and I think it's 355 00:33:19.160 --> 00:33:21.559 just a shame. Ray, what do you think about these, you know, 356 00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.640 these of course continuous accusations that you know, this film forty years later 357 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:30.480 still being called a hoax. Yes, uh, there's nothing you can do 358 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.720 about that. Forty years from now people will still be calling you a hope. 359 00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:37.160 But I think it's pretty well proved that it is such a creature. 360 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:42.759 I did have Greg Long come down and talk at our meetings once. Of 361 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.160 course he angered everybody, but it's still a good meeting. People are still 362 00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:52.799 talking about it yet, and yeah, there's nothing you can do about that. 363 00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.880 Then there's gonna be hoaxers out there. Also. Ray Wallace was a 364 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.799 good friend. He's write a lot of stuff with his but we all knew 365 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:02.839 he was a trickster, and we just sort of took it all in stride. 366 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.159 And it's like you mentioned before about keeping his sense of humor, because 367 00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:14.760 even the most worst worst hoaxers people are telling him stories where they actually see 368 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:20.639 creatures themselves, and he kept relating these things had in their old ray Wallace. 369 00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:24.400 He had to interved an Indian down around climate falls once and got quite 370 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.800 quite a few bits of interesting information, which I was glad to get in 371 00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:37.079 print. But he's also sent me copies of his tracks too, and they 372 00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:43.280 all looked just phony his heck and you know, big thick things straight up 373 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:50.719 and down edges obviously outlined when you forget those are the ones he made by 374 00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:53.679 the pieces of wood. But even those have become a historical art effects. 375 00:34:53.719 --> 00:35:04.719 Noalities passed away, And we've James and I have embarked on a project Ray 376 00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.519 called a Squatch TV. Well we're making small, little, you know, 377 00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:15.840 twenty minute you know videos, kind of mockumentaries, but you know, on 378 00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:20.480 a serious note, trying to keep the humor up while trying to conduct some 379 00:35:20.639 --> 00:35:24.000 you know, serious research. And our first show, of course, is 380 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:30.840 on casting a footprint, which neither James or myself has done. So I 381 00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:35.360 think you can expect one of those in the mail ray as soon as I 382 00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:37.199 can get one out of tea. I think you might enjoy it. Okay, 383 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.599 thank you? Yeah, huh yeah. I have some interesting stories on 384 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:47.519 that myself. Very first one, I tried to cast and plastered very liquid 385 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:52.320 and I put it into the course of immediately flowed out down into the dut 386 00:35:52.440 --> 00:36:00.840 or. It was pretty funny and ruined the tracker, of course, taking 387 00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.960 a while to learn how to do it. James and I were actually out 388 00:36:05.960 --> 00:36:10.559 in the field with our cameraman and we got stopped by the Pennsylvania DCNR, 389 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:15.320 and he was very very kind to us. And the whole time I was 390 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.199 trying to conceal the fact that I was wearing a Pennsylvania big Foot Society T 391 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.159 shirt, you know, And I tell you what, it's kind of hard 392 00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:29.719 trying to hide your T shirt and explaining while you're casting a footprint. What 393 00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.599 a time. Wow, that's very true. The were you able to interview 394 00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.559 him and get some information? Oh or not? I suppose if you're trying 395 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:43.840 to hide your Pennsylvania shirt. I have had some experiences in the past where 396 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:49.679 I've tried to interview some rangers from the DCNR and they haven't been too friendly 397 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:52.360 to talk to. After that, they've either gotten you know, blew me 398 00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:55.079 off like it was, you know, seriously dismissive like pop Boulder dash it 399 00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:59.079 doesn't exist. And then you get the people that just won't say worthy, 400 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.639 and they'll just turn around and yes, uh huh, but ever now, 401 00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:05.320 and then you'll get one and you get a good story out of Also, 402 00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:09.079 we used to not worry about it. We knew automatically, and we go 403 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:14.920 into the ranger stations and asked, especially about the hidden logs. Almost all 404 00:37:14.920 --> 00:37:20.360 of them have a reputation of having logs hidden of people that are reported big 405 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.639 foot sightings. We were never able to prove it and never able to see 406 00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:28.159 one, so we don't know whether they exist or not. But it was 407 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.800 fun asking for him and watching the reactions of the rangers. Although we have 408 00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:37.000 one, we'll have to remember that next video we make, we'll have to 409 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:40.400 make a point of asking the rangers some random questions because I think that might 410 00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.000 actually be a nice thing for the audience to get an idea of that. 411 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.400 One of the other things we were worried about and doing that was the legality 412 00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.519 issues of filming someone and and what you got to ask their permission, Yes, 413 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.320 if you're going to fill them. Yeah, we weren't carrying around any 414 00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:06.239 of those papers that said you wouldn't see us for using your pictures were interesting 415 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:08.880 enough. Ray a couple of years ago, was on an expedition with the 416 00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:16.119 Pennsylvania Bigfoot Society and Ranger Tim Cassidy. He and I were actually what we 417 00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:22.239 came across what we thought was a was a nesting area, and we found 418 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:25.199 something that looked like a large cane tooth, much bigger than our own, 419 00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.760 about the size of my you know, maybe a little smaller than my pinky, 420 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:34.239 yeah, you know. And Ranger Tim took it around to several of 421 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.920 the different rangers inst you know, anybody if they knew what this was, 422 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.280 and of course no one could give them an answer. I find it funny 423 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.920 that when we sent it out for something to look at, we get a 424 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:51.440 response saying it was a dear hoof core yea, And they're raring themselves defined 425 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:57.880 And I've never heard of anything coming back as a deer hoof coore. I 426 00:38:57.920 --> 00:39:01.519 don't know, man, I do we have some pretty big mule deers out 427 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:08.480 here, and uh you was given a bone once supposedly from Florida, probably 428 00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.960 was from Florida. It was supposed to be a finger bone of a sas 429 00:39:12.960 --> 00:39:16.360 squatch, or I should say, rather that one of these uh ten foot 430 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:21.679 skeletons that they find in the ground, whether it was a sasquatch or not, 431 00:39:22.719 --> 00:39:27.880 And that's not thought to doctor Grover Cramps and he says, oh, 432 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.400 this is easy, and it's ankle bone of a deer. And so there's 433 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.079 big mule deers. And fortuitously, a couple of months afterwards, I found 434 00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:43.320 a dead uh skeleton of a mule deer and looked down around the ankles, 435 00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.719 and sure enough there was an exacting match. I gave that to somebody I 436 00:39:46.800 --> 00:39:55.079 don't even remember who now. So the olden kicking around that point being is 437 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:59.960 you know, you wanted to send things like that to somebody who really knows 438 00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:04.239 was what they're doing, and to get an answer. That's why I took 439 00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:10.920 that mentioned that bone that I got from Don Monroe's teave. I took us 440 00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:16.119 to the Oregon Archaeological Society and I had a specialist look at it as sous 441 00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:28.679 I will identify it as a knee bone of extinct licen. Interesting and I 442 00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.400 have a question from w B d I G. He says, does Ray 443 00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:39.679 think was mistakenly used the PG film to judge the authentivity of other videos? 444 00:40:38.960 --> 00:40:45.480 Well, something about the PG film to do what? I'm sorry I didn't 445 00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:51.440 get that question. I believe Henry was asking a question from the chat room 446 00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:55.599 from Less Virginia big is it? Do you believe it's a mistake to, 447 00:40:57.079 --> 00:41:00.800 you know, use the Patterson film and comparison to the other ask which films 448 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:06.119 out there? No, absolutely not. Why why? I don't know why 449 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:12.480 they even think it would be a mistake. It's a probably the gold standard 450 00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:16.039 of all bigfoot films, and then we're able to judge from that. But 451 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:22.159 we find a lot of variations in different bigfoot body structures and things that we're 452 00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:28.880 learning a lot from that. Females or males are all from different garden. 453 00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:38.239 I'd excuse my cold. I believe that was a sneeze, right right, 454 00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:46.039 Okay, heard a noise in the background and lost it. Quiet or I'm 455 00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:54.519 sorry, it's that allergy season kicking up. Yeah, I should think I'd 456 00:41:54.519 --> 00:42:00.519 be pretty much over back there. I would say they're in I'm not to 457 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.960 be an up ray around here right now. It's starting to pick up pretty 458 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.840 severe. A lot of people coming down with sinus infections and all these allergies 459 00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:09.760 really kicking up. I think like six out of the ten people you talk 460 00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.360 to, everybody's having problems with allergies. So what it is, it's the 461 00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:19.239 leather changes and as the plants start to die, alling gets higher in the 462 00:42:19.280 --> 00:42:22.199 air. Plus fact, there a lot of times you're mowing and weed whacking 463 00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.840 plants because it's getting to be autumn, and so a lot of the stuff 464 00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:30.679 is just flying in the air. Huh. Wife had me slaving away in 465 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:37.000 the yard yesterday. I understand completely thanks to one the bigfoot has the same 466 00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:42.039 problem. You know, there's an awful lot of people that report they're not. 467 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:46.079 One of them are noises as being wheezing in the morning. If that 468 00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:52.960 might have something to do with it also an allergy or a breathing problem. 469 00:42:52.960 --> 00:43:00.239 It's sort of like bulldogs they have that causes them to squeeze. Isn't sorry? 470 00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:02.159 You go on with what you were saying. No, No, actually, 471 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:06.039 that's a really interesting idea. I mean, Sean, I might have 472 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.440 to look into that if if maybe the big Foot, you know that we 473 00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:14.440 hear more sounds when the weather changes. One of the things that you said 474 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:15.880 there that that's interesting to me is, you know, is it a breathing 475 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.199 problem If a sasquatch does live in caves, in fact, the air quality 476 00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:22.360 is going to be a lot different in terms of you know, what they're 477 00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:28.920 actually breathing in. And perhaps some sort of adaptation or whatever you'd like to 478 00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.239 call it has caused them to become more suitable for that air. You know, 479 00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:36.039 sometimes there's more of a you know, sul you know, sulfur in 480 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.119 the air, what have you. And as opposed to them coming up to 481 00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:42.239 the surface and on land, you know, maybe them kind of getting sort 482 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:45.840 of an asshixiation from the oxygen level or you know, just being a completely 483 00:43:45.920 --> 00:43:51.480 you know, different enough to cause them to have a slight problem. I 484 00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:54.119 don't really know what the answer is. No, They're one of the things 485 00:43:54.119 --> 00:44:00.360 that where you just keep collecting information on and yeah, sort of a hit 486 00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:07.239 list of weird things anonomies I call them, and maybe once I'll get something 487 00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:10.840 that was completely off the wall. Like I mentioned, they're running around on 488 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:15.480 all fours. That was the only report I had until I started looking into 489 00:44:15.480 --> 00:44:20.239 it, and the more I gotten into the war reports, I started running 490 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.880 it across, so the actually believed it. Then a content from the chat 491 00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:30.039 room we just got regarding the big foot breathing difficulty from thunder Hawks saying it's 492 00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:38.519 the big Foot Stars. It's a big foot foot stars that the respiratory virus 493 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:42.559 or infection that was going around up in you know, parts of Canada and 494 00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:46.599 over and China and whatnot. It's the big Foot Stars. Okay, I'm 495 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:55.000 not familiar with that, I guess. And uh like the bird flow the 496 00:44:55.000 --> 00:45:00.719 bird again, kind of like the bird flow, Yeah, okay, huh. 497 00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:06.440 And he walked around in his country. I think he's from the Dales, 498 00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:10.599 put up east up to clock of this drainage system. And we had 499 00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:15.840 a report once the guy had gone in and he had found a dead deer 500 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:21.639 with a head gone never did find the head, big foot tracks all around 501 00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:25.039 it, and he'd gone down and it was important, and he'd gone down 502 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:30.800 to the ranger station and had a ranger come back with him and documented, 503 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:35.559 and she plaster cast in some of those tracks and took him back to the 504 00:45:35.679 --> 00:45:40.000 ranger station and they smelled so bad they didn't keep him around, and sort 505 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:52.159 of interesting to get that neat confirmation of killing a deer magic melt that in 506 00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:57.159 and just threw it in and getting close to the end of year show. 507 00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:01.800 Now, okay, fALS, we're gonna take another break and we will be 508 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.079 right back. And guys, what a great show we've had here tonight. 509 00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.199 Ray, thank you so very much for joining us. Appreciate you taking the 510 00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:15.840 time out and sitting down and discussing Sasquatch with us here at the Sasquatch Experience. 511 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:21.000 Yeah, you're more than welcome to Sean, you know, once again, 512 00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:27.719 beginning to Henry also, go ahead, Ray apout it no problem. 513 00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:31.440 Oh you said you'd buy to Henry also and h yeah, there's no problem 514 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.559 at all. I enjoyed being on your show, Sean. Well, we 515 00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:38.239 enjoy having your Ray. And once again i'd like to say thank you for 516 00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.639 you know, continuing to put out the track record and just helping us keep 517 00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:47.679 the spirit of Sasquats alive as we discussed, you know, and and hold 518 00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:52.599 these conferences and have these shows and just all around and enjoy the friendship and 519 00:46:52.639 --> 00:47:04.000 camaraderie as we discussed Sasquatch you've been listening to Stoft Watch Experience. Please rate 520 00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:07.360 and review wherever this podcast is consumed. To share your experience, visit us 521 00:47:07.360 --> 00:47:14.920 on Facebook or email us Squatch Experience at gmail dot com. Keep on Squatching