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What's going on? Clippers fans,
Welcome back to Clips and Dips season two,

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episode seventy seven, from the reminder
of the season's reset after the NBA

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Draft. So the end of season
two is coming up. I am Chuck

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Mockler, joined by Adam oslind and
William Updyke. We're all back. We've

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been off. We've been in different
parts of the country. I'm in Sierra

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Madre right now, which feels like
a different part of the country. We

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had a lot of Clipper stuff to
talk about. Adam, you've been a

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roadie. Will you went to Vegas? How are you Fellas doing? How

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excited are you to talk about this
intuit food as well as answer some Clippers

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questions. I am very much excited
talk with you guys. It's been too

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long. I feel like I've been
gone probably the most of late you have.

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We've we've documented the absence over the
last month. Are these am I

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gonna get like danged or something like? For sure? It's unprecedented, So

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we don't really have We don't really
know how we're gonna deal with itance grading

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or something like that. I'm in
good. Spiration isn't looking good right now,

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but it's not looking good. I
was on the road with one of

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my favorite bands, Camera Obscura Photo
Ops. My buddy was opening up for

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them, and then I got back
and today I met one of my favorite

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actors of all time in Burbanks.
So I feel like I'm living a charmed

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life. Maybe I'll let you guys
in on who that was later in the

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show. Plus we got the dips. I actually just like it. Are

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we going to be that impressed?
It's a weird If you're not impressed,

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I'm just gonna cut the cord live
right here with some scissors on my microphone.

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This is one of my top ten
favorite actors ever. Somebody that you

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will chan. Not Jackie Champ good
guess though, yeah. Not Chris Tucker,

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who I do like I'm out of
guesses, but he is a i'm

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gonna say, the most underd after
of our time. I can't wait to

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hear about it. Well, how
are you doing? Do we all have

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dips? By the way, for
the off season? Do we have dips?

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I'm great. I didn't get a
dip today. Was running a little

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shy on time. I'm very hot. It's very hot. I'm very sweaty.

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So you might see me dab myself
down with a towel during Juck's about

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to cut your cord right now?
What about his performance? I've been on

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for a month, but look at
this guy. No dip. It's documented.

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All I can say is that we've
documented it and we're moving forward.

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I have a great dip to make
up for his lack of dip. I

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may I may have found the best
dip ever. To be honest with you,

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I'm excited. I'm so. I'm
house sitting in Sierra Madre, which

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is why I have this crank yanchor's
puppet behind me or whoever this is.

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But I fought from the movie,
The Murders movie with Melissa McCarthy. I

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only know two puppet things, and
it's crank anchors and that. So yeah,

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that sounds like it's Sesame Street.
Okay, like chill, like adult

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puppet stuff. I guess I have
two things erd by adults, so they're

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all adult puppets. Speaking of Jim
Henson, the actor that I met earlier

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today, there's a six degrees of
separation there. I'm just saying, well,

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we can't wait to hear about whatever. Hell, we haven't even started

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talking about the Clippers. Yet it's
a Clippers show. We're talking about some

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actor you met. But things are
about to go downhill real quick. I

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just want to stay on the Brice
Saturdays. Okay, we'll keep teasing this

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actor and we'll we'll we'll play the
cue when we're supposed to hear it before

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we get into Adam's top one of
the top ten actors he's ever met.

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Uh and the into it food stuff. There's been some Paul George scuttle but

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recently from Brian Winn and some weird
Jeff Fan Gundy scuttle butt which we're gonna

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talk about. But first, Windhorse
was on the Pat McAfee show. For

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those of you who watched the Pat
McAfee show, he said, you see.

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He said he sees more trades being
the big transactions as opposed to free

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agents, which I don't think is
a big surprise there given what the free

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agent class looks like for this offseason. He said there might be an opting

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in trade scenario like Chris Paul for
Paul George, and that the Clippers and

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PG are not on the same page
in contract negotiations. There are sixteen days

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left for Paul George to opt I
believe out or in? Who is Paul

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George on the same page with I
just mean in anything, it's not new

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information. But you're not wrong,
Jackson, Russell, lesbro, Josh Rondo,

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John Wall gone gone? Where are
we be gone again? This isn't

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new information, right Like, It's
not like we all thought that it was

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hunky dory with the Clippers and pg's
contract negotiations, but the timing is getting

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a little truncated. I feel for
maybe some weirdness to happen. He might

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just leave if there's a max out
there and the Clippers don't want to give

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it to him, But I don't
know that would be worst case scenario.

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I don't necessarily love Paul George on
a MAX contract, obviously, but letting

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him walk for nothing and not having
fifty million dollars to sign someone else doesn't

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feel the best. Considering it's been
the same situation basically since the start of

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the season with him being extension eligible. I would guess he and his team

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have gathered all the information. They
have a pretty good read on the situation,

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whether or not the Clippers want him
back and for how much versus what

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is out there on the open market
with Philadelphia with Orlando, those are the

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two teams that have been discussed the
most, and Philadelphia is not a bad

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landing spot considering they have a max
slot open. They've been waiting for this,

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they've been preparing for this, and
he can go to another team that's

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still a contender, granted in the
Eastern Conference. This time he'll have to

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move across the country and leave home. But it's his last big contract,

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so I'm always all for get as
much money as you can. It's a

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short lifespan being an athlete, and
no one I think should be looked down

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upon for chasing the money, so
to speak. If he can get the

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max and that's what he values most, I have no issue with that.

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So I I just don't see how
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what exactly is going to change in
the near term before he just becomes an

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unrestricted free agent. That's what I'm
confused by, is it It's very clear

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that he's like four year max and
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guess is they are taking a hardline
stance that they know what the number is

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willing to give him, and on
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He and his agent have another number
in mind. They're not lining up at

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this point. They've they've sent back
and forth the same piece of paper with

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a number written on it. It's
now it's barely it's not it's it's worn

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down. It's not even a piece
of paper anymore. Maybe it's just the

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sketch from the Big Lebowski. Actually
there's number. Yeah, they're not even

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looking because neither party is looking.
They're just like, we know, this

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isn't what we want. Look I
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out there and what the Clippers could
possibly do, given their cap restrictions,

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given the limited pile of assets that
they have to distribute, keeping Paul George

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is more likely than not the best
from an on paper talent perspective that they're

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going to do. That's the best
they're going to be able to do all

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off season. Is that worth handing
over a guy a Max I don't think

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so. Not not a guy at
thirty four years old either. Like,

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there's just there's so many things that
make this situation just a little bit different

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than than some of these other situations. And as far as I'm concerned,

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like, if it's Max or Bus
for Paul George, you know, I

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hope that that, you know,
with how long things are going on,

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I hope that there's still enough good
will between parties that maybe we could work

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out some sort of sign and trade
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if it's Max, Like, if
it's Max or Bus, like see you

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later, man, Like, yeah, I mean, and I guess from

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his perspective, like, wouldn't you
rather be the biggest loser instead of being

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it at home, be it across
the country and then you can meet up

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with your friends and tell them all
you're still doing really well. I don't

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know, Yeah, Like if it's
I mean, hey, if he ends

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up in Orlando, no one's gonna
watch your games anyways, So sorry Orlando

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fans, But like, should it
be mentioned that? And I'm not at

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all making light of this with all
sincerity that you know, Paul George in

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the bubble really struggled with being away
from home, really struggled with being in

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that environment. And obviously the world
is very different now and going to Orlando,

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we're going to fill the same thing
in Oklahoma City different, Right.

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He is a whole body, He
loves Palmdale. He loves fishing, he

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loves all these things. It's just
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he and Kawhi came to LA that
this was their final destination for their career.

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This is where they always want to
end up. And again, if

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that has changed, or if the
money changes, that great for him.

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If he can get fifty million per
year with the Philadelphia seventy six ers,

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I think it's unlikely the Clippers that
you never know. I like what you

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said will about the goodwill with the
sign and trade, because that is a

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large part of agreeing to the sign
and trade, right like if the Clippers,

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I wouldn't be surprised if the Clippers. Obviously, I think the clippers

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backup plan is they offer him what
they want to offer him. He's obviously

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said no, and then I bet
it's the four year MAXI and then a

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sign and trade. I think that's
there's no way that plan B is let

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him go for nothing. You know, I think they're probably trying to work

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both channels. What his trade value
is. It depends on who you ask

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on any given day, because we've
seen it go everywhere. But I have

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to imagine that breaking glass in case
of emergency with due diligence is a MAX

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and then a sign and trade.
It isn't so, guys. I I

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don't think a sign and trade in
today's NBA can happen. I think it's

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so archaic and so parametered that there's
just no way to pull it off because

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it hard caps the team he goes
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That's not gonna happen. I don't. I think it's an old way

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of negotiating. When was the last
sign and trade we saw? And this

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is this is a new salary cap
world. What was it? Kevin Urant

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that I think that that could be, But that was before all the rules

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that have come down over the last
two years. It seems legitimately, I'm

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no salary cap expert, but ten
times more difficult in terms of running a

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franchise and playing within the salary cap
rules, Especially for a teammight the Clippers

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of the Golden State Warriors that wants
to overspend, that wants to spend as

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much as possible to win. There
are so many more constraints than there used

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to be. I don't think a
sign and trade could happen with Paul George

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because of that, because of the
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the competitive teams that want him that
are already going to be over the first

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apron, like the Philadelphia seventy six
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be an opt in, and then
what a guarantee from a team that he's

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going to that they're gonna give him
the extension, which again he's teammates with

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James Harden, who I'm sure is
like bewary of that. Maybe, Buddy,

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I just if anyone knows put it
in the comments how realistic a sign

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and trade is in today's NBA landscape, because it just seems like you really

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have to thread the needle more than
ever would you do. So here is

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a fun it's a it's a quack. I don't know why this this thumbs

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up is going off for those of
you watching. I didn't mean that thumbs

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up. It's a quagmire. Where
again, it's like two weeks for him

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to decide, basically for the opt
in opt out for this last year,

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Locked On Pelicans proposed an idea and
Will and I have talked about something kind

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of like this, which is PG
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and they worked it out to where
that works. Just spitballing here.

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We're just having a good time.
Thoughts on this trade idea because I have

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seen people talk about it. He's
like a swap with the pal It's you

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know, I'm not advocating do it
in this scenario. I think you get

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someone who's theoretically maybe a little better
at defense. I will say this the

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comments on this video, no one
liked the idea. No, no Pells

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fan was really on board with this
idea. In the comment, well,

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like, I I mean, I
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He's just at an age and just
a star level that he's a better guy

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to carry your team when Zion is
out. Like he is a better he's

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the better scorer. He's like the
better leader of a team than Paul George

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and and the CJ McCollum thing like
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up and everything. Maybe sure it
is like a sunk cost that seems like

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just a really I don't I gotta
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that one for New Orleans at all, if that was on the table,

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I mean, I take it.
I don't know what you do with CJ.

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You gotta ditch one of him or
Norm that already hasn't worked before and

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they're now both older, so I
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But yeah, yeah, I don't
get why the Pelicans make that move.

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Yeah, I obviously would like that
for the Clippers. Even with Brandon Ingram

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and his struggles this year in the
playoffs, I'm a big fan of b

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I I always have. In goes
back to the punch he threw the Lakers.

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No, man, he is not
to trifle with in the NBA.

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That is a well known theme of
Brandon Ingram. I just like I don't

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know, quieter, more understated guys. It's one of the reasons I always

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like Kawhi Leonard just pros like that. Uh and his game with his mid

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range, to me is so intriguing
because he's a throwback in that way as

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well. And he's what twenty six
or twenty seven, he's just entering his

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prime. If there doesn't want to
be the third or fourth best player on

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a team which is a good which
is a would be a huge fact,

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Paul georgioul loves to you the third
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a max after but get a max
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you brought up Norm, and Norm
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trades. Is kind of like the
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now it's moving over to Norm Powell
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Norm Powell's trade value as in a
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guard who might be able to start, but what has largely been healthy has

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largely been healthy, very clutch.
The Magic could maybe use him like something

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they need to score first guy.
But how would you guys show that.

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There's the idea of trading Norm again, another guy on the Clippers team who

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it's very hard to value in the
trade. We talked about him before this

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season. He has value even though
he's making eighty million over the next couple

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of seasons, is not expiring after
this year around eighteen million dollars. He

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does have I think value throughout the
league. He should have finished top three

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and six minute the year voting.
That is just born. It's ridiculous.

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He should have been the three point
contest. It's absurd the way he's kind

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of been viewed nationally by low level
He's a quiet guy, do right,

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He's another kind of quiet. I
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agreed for I think he even mentioned
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not being talked about enough and kind
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maybe because of that this season,
but he's one of the most efficient

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scorers off the bench in modern NBA
history. I think, like that's not

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hyperbole. normOn Powell is yeah,
championship experience. He can be a much

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better defender at times, but he
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or a team that needs one,
like the Orlando Magic, you could say,

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if you watch that first round series
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the area they struggled in. I
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Clippers don't have many other options from
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moving. Even though we all love
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least have to take a call on
if they're interested, just because you're trying

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to reconfigure the team right now,
and a lot of that's gonna fall into

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place once you know what happens with
Paul George. Maybe, but yeah,

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I think normOn Powell's a name to
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think it behooves us to hold on
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uh midst just because you have a
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contracts and spending is at league wise, and with Norm already locked in,

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you mentioned that he's not in expiring, which for some teams is going to

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be a deterrent, but for teams
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you know, like in a contender
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that price with a rising cap is
an asset. Uh, It's it's another

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asset. So Norm, He's gonna
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because he is one of the most
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do it unless the right move is
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of the most tradeable uh sort of
pieces that we have. He is you

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know, like want to like he's
not a young guy. It just it

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just makes sense from a like an
asset perspective. I bet norm if he

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I bet norm is on two more
teams after this. We're getting the balloons

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now. I bet Norma's on two
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because, like you mentioned, the
trade deadline thing, which is when teams

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realize oh X wasn't as good off
the bench as we needed. From the

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point, maybe we need to make
an adjustment here. That could happen I

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think a couple more times. And
maybe it is the Magic again. I

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mean, Jonathan Isaac is a young
wing who has injury history. We've talked

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about this a little bit on this
pod before that's in exchange. It seems

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like it works. He has been
injured. Maybe the Magic are tired of

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it. I don't know, but
that wouldn't be a trade basketball wise.

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That I would tip my nose at
Houston, I think is interesting. I

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mean, I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't do a deal with Dallas.

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But I mean, if I'm the
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I would spit in their face if
they sent me anything, of course,

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but I would listen. I could
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To me, Norman Powell is someone
you move if you feel like you can

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strengthen a weakness somewhere else, And
it is almost a luxury at this point

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because they do still have enough shooting
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I'm not saying he's expendable by any
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get a power forward, a true
power forward, or just to improve the

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front court somewhere, you might have
to do it, even reluctantly because everybody

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loves Norm Powell and you know what
you're getting. And even though he's thirty

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one, he just turned thirty one, he's still smack dab in the prime

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of his career. He's got bounce. Yeah, he's a sought after guy

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I think teams would be interested in. And he tried harder on off ball

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defense this year. I thought his
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brighter parts for that side of a
court for him. Luca asked a defensive

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renaissance, We should look up those
blowbye numbers because I bet Norms are better.

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One last thing before we get into
these Clippers questions sent to us by

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fans all over the world. League
sources told the Steinline that the LA Clippers

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have strong interest in hiring Celtic special
advisor Jeff Van Gundy as a high profile

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addition to Tyler's coaching staff for next
season and a strong chance of succeeding in

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that pursuit after the NBA Finals are
complete. First of all, I didn't

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know he was a special advisor of
the Celtics. That was new to me.

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Like this, like when Steve n
Ash was a special advisor to the

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Warriors or whatever, Like, I
don't understand what you do. I've heard

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enough about what Jeff Van Gundy thinks
about the modern game. I don't want

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him anywhere near my team. I
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If you'd like to pay someone to
complain about basketball, and very available,

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much cheaper. But yeah, all
bemoan the modern game all day long.

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I think special advisor, if you're
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you watch, you watch a couple
of games when you can catch him,

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when need to shoot off a couple
of emails to the brass, you say,

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hey, saw this. I do
think there's a different Jeff Van Gundy

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in the coaching realm than there was
on ABC, ESPN and that stick character

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coach type thing and Mark Jackson because
he's been involved with Team USA over the

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last fifteen years. Somewhat right,
I do think similar position. Though he

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watches a couple of games, sends
a couple of emails check maybe he was

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certainly a defensive oriented coach back in
his day. I liked him with the

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Houston Rockets, which kind of gets
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They did blow a series. They
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but he spoke out and got fined
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the referees were intentionally looking at moving
screens with Yao Ming based upon something said

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by Mark Human. It was a
whole fiasco back then during I don't know

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this was I think two thousand and
five that was the Tracy McGrady dunk on

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Sean Bradley. But I don't know. I'm interested. I don't know how

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much it changes the Clippers' fortunes having
someone like him involved. The first thing

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I said, jokingly was is he
also a doctor, because what they've been

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missing is obviously just good health.
But I wouldn't mind a different voice behind

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the scenes in the room. I
think that always, that always can help

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a different perspective. If everybody's thinking
the same thing, No one's thinking that

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old adage. So I don't know, old school may play well with the

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Clippers. Maybe they need some of
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That's a good call. And as
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USA, he's been the director of
scouting for Team USA. Yeah, it's

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interesting. I guess. I kind
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I want someone I don't know,
I will see. I wouldn't be mad

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at this. It would be interesting
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of you know, coaching and whatnot
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things, which is obviously who they're
they're feeling this in for. But it's

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interesting. If you like quiet,
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this kind of fits it, I
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it not really? Get off my
cloud? Get off my cloud? Coming

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up, we are going to hopefully
find out who Adam saw in beautiful Burbank,

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California. Today. We're gonna get
to some fantastic Clippers questions after this

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in three to what All right,
welcome back into clips and dit. We

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just talked sort of all the Clippers
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Not a whole lot there, but
there's some uh you know, there's ongoing

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PG stuff, a possible coaching edition, but right now we're taking your questions.

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Which is the only news that week
eight exactly exactly. Kicking things off,

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we got Jeremy Mormon who says,
if PG leaves, is Kawhi requesting

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a trade. He said that the
Raptors weren't good enough to win. I

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can't imagine how he looks at the
Clippers without PG. Charles, I'll kick

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this to you. Interesting. Did
did KAUI say that? Did he say

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that? I don't, I don't. I don't remember. I remember it.

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Maybe he alluded to, but I
don't know if he actually said it.

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That being said because he was the
wasn't he the only big departure after

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that championship run. I believe so
he didn't leave Toronto necessarily because they didn't

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have Obviously, that doesn't make sense
to say they didn't have enough because they

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just won the championship. He wanted
to come back home. He wanted to

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come to the Clippers or possibly maybe
the Lakers, but he wanted to come

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to the Clippers and wanted to see
if they had enough. So I think

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I don't think Kawi requests the trade. I think there's there's a very short

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list of people who I think want
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Leonard does at this stage in his
career. I don't think he wants to

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go to a new team because he's
a very He's kind of the center of

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the offensive universe a bit, I'm
not It's not a bad thing. The

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way that the Clippers are constructed is
around him and pg that those two shot

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charts a supposed to compliment each other. We all remember that beautiful graphic.

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They've won seven hundred. They have
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them are actually on the floor.
They've been great when they're actually out there,

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and I don't. Yeah, I
don't think he wants to go to

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a new team and start something new, or like learn a new system or

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deal with a new coach. Is
the other thing. Tyler's locked up for

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pass the end of his contract,
and I think maybe after this contract he's

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just done with basketball possibly, So
I don't think he requests a trade.

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I would be I would generally be
heartbroken if Kawhi requested a trade. If

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the Clippers got rid of PG,
I'm like, oh shit, that were

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really screwed. But I don't think
it happened. Fair question, though,

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to your point of how much longer
Kawhi is going to be in this league

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based upon his temperament and being somewhat
of a recluse. He said the night

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of getting the extension this season,
they asked him something to the effect of

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what are your plans after this and
he was like, I'll reevaluate and see

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how I'm playing at the end of
that this contract, because he'd be thirty

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five at that point. So I
don't see Kawhi Leonard making a stink if

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they lose Paul George all of a
sudden showing up on social media posting cryptic

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things that would be insane. I
would actually maybe if it was a messy

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divorce, I would maybe welcome that
strictly for the drama that it would produce.

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I'm sure to some degree, Kawhi, you know, nobody's more frustrated

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than he is with not being able
to play. But I'm sure he understand

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hands what has happened the last four
years. Not being available for the playoffs.

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At some point, and I don't
know, may feel like there's still

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business at hand. I have to
find a way to bring this franchise a

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ring. I think that is his
focus. Everything he said this year when

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they asked him about the contract various
topics, he just say, I don't

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know. I'm living in the moment
and I'm focused on taking this team to

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places they've never been. That is
pretty much verbat on what he had said

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all season long, and he was
playing like that until, of course,

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unfortunately the knees started to swell up
right at the end of the year.

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Well where are you at? Do
you think you request the trade? I

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gotta be honest, I just don't
really see it. Stuff would have to

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be going super super awry. Yeah, I just don't see any sort of

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like this isn't san Antonio with what
happened there. Yeah, yeah, I

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just don't really see any conceivable scenario. I mean, I I assume that

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he's happy with the contract number that
he got. You know, this this

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organization never drags him at least not
that I can think of. Yeah,

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this organization does anything, man,
I mean like really like, I mean,

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you know, despite a lot of
their failures in the playoffs being i

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mean incredibly linked to his health,
I would say one hundred percent link to

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his health. I mean, it's
not you know, he's never hung out

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to dry and it seems like he
has the flexibility, he has his own

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staff and things. You know,
he's able to conduct his career in his

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life in the way that he wants
to. I also think he was always

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a little bit more about the Los
Angeles thing than Paul George ever was.

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If I'm being totally honest. Yeah, I think that's fair. Florida boy

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Corey with a pretty good question.
Do we rather want a rim protecting Center

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or Stretch five to back up Zubots? Before you said to back up,

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I was about to jump out of
my chair. So how do we get

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Miles Turner for a Vitza Zubat.
I want to add a point to this.

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Law. Murray on the last episode
brought up a great thing about kai

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Jones's role on this team. Kai
Jones is going to be a center basically,

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is what the Clippers are trying to
make out of him. So should

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as he should. So based on
that, I'm thinking the Clippers do not

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want to stretch five because kai Jones
is very much not a stretch five,

405
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,519
which is not a knock the kai
Jones hive. I'm not saying he's bad,

406
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,880
but it seems like the Clippers want
a traditional five and then if they

407
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,680
want to go five out, they
would rather put a larger four there.

408
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:48,200
Yeah, I'd be good with that, Just a little bit of symmetry between

409
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,720
first and second units where you know, regardless who the type of center is

410
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,680
behind you, whether it's Zubats or
kai Jones, they're playing a similar type

411
00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:00,720
of role. They're not playing out
on the perimeter. They're both rim protectors

412
00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:03,680
in theory. We haven't seen enough
obviously from kai Jones. We know the

413
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:11,599
potential and everything, but I don't
mind that it would be you know,

414
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,839
Isaiah Hartenstein, while he did have
a hell of a floater from about ten

415
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,400
feet out. He could say he
could space the floor a little bit more

416
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,200
because of that. He also wasn't
someone that was shooting jumpers or shooting three

417
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,680
pointers, and it worked. They
had a top eight defense that year with

418
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:33,039
him backing up of eacha Zubas.
So to keep that going, I think

419
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:40,920
uniformity between centers in their skill sets
wouldn't be a bad idea. Yeah,

420
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:45,319
I want another rim defending center,
and then we need another like big wing

421
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:49,079
who can shoot. Yeah, and
it's weird. I don't need the center

422
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:53,000
to do that, right, And
if you look at the free agent centers,

423
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:59,319
like, it's not like we're looking
at an all time list of shooting

424
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:06,160
bigs who were available on the cheap
for the Clippers. It's and who Yeah,

425
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,960
I mean it's Valentiunis And like I
mean, Kevin Love is gonna be

426
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:19,000
another restracted you know, like I
mean Wiseman, he can't shoot. There's

427
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,559
no one who can shoot out there
no disrespect to them. Is Andre Drummond

428
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:28,359
a free agent? Because yeah,
Carl Tarts guys, he's got the three

429
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:34,880
ball a d No, Yeah,
it's not very good. Does Alex Lenz

430
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:40,400
shoot, No, wouldn't be a
bad backup five, though the lens steal

431
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,480
my son's signed jokes would be going
on. I'm a bit of a lenhead.

432
00:32:44,519 --> 00:32:50,359
I cannot tell you why Christian Hackney
wants to know. What do you

433
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,039
think are the chances of Bones being
traded? Even if Russ ops out seems

434
00:32:54,079 --> 00:32:58,160
like he isn't happy after last year
and getting sent home early before the All

435
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,240
Star break didn't seem like a good
omen for him or the team's relationship.

436
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,319
Love Bones in his play by the
way, just don't want anyone here who

437
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:09,759
doesn't want to be here or mess
with the chemistry. Pretty good question.

438
00:33:12,319 --> 00:33:16,799
Yeah, that's a really good question. I would hope that if Russell Westbrook

439
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:22,119
isn't on the team, they go
right back to saying, Bones, this

440
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,559
is your opportunity. You are the
backup it. You should say that if

441
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:28,960
for Us is on the team,
like I, I again to me Bones,

442
00:33:29,119 --> 00:33:31,160
to me, Bones is another guy, like I think right now,

443
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:35,359
maybe you can get some bites on
the potential of what he could be.

444
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,400
I still think like you're shooting yourself
in the foot not having like not having

445
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,920
giving him more touches and at least
seeing what he can do, because it's

446
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,119
the same situation. Honestly, if
you take more opportunities and he fails,

447
00:33:47,359 --> 00:33:51,839
the trade value is honestly about the
same because people are still gonna be like,

448
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:53,279
well, you know, the tools
are there, there's there's some interesting

449
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:57,519
opportunities. Maybe it wasn't a good
culture fit, but if he hits,

450
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,480
you either keep him or you know, he's worth substantially more. I think

451
00:34:00,519 --> 00:34:07,199
it's I think it's idiotic to assume
that an old guy with a limited skill

452
00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:12,760
set and who wasn't like that helpful
in the playoffs is going to get regular

453
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,079
season run over over a young guy. Like I think that, like if

454
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:19,239
that's the thought from like the front
office or the coaching staff going into this,

455
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:22,239
Like I don't know why we're beating
our head against the same wall,

456
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,800
Like I don't get why we're gonna
just do the exact same shit. Wasn't

457
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:30,960
that helpful in the playoffs? Was
very very kind of you after Russ had

458
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,679
the worst five games shooting stretched in
the history of the playoffs, I think,

459
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,840
going eight of forty one the last
five games of the series. Hey,

460
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,239
I got a family to think about
it. I can't just I can't

461
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,159
be saying too much with these russ
with the rust stands out here, right,

462
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:52,000
I get that. I I am
in full agreement. I would love

463
00:34:52,039 --> 00:34:55,519
to see Bones come into this season
knowing, without a doubt he is the

464
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:59,880
backup point guard. My point is
the only way for that to happen,

465
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,239
think would be for us to no
longer be on the team. Oh,

466
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,440
there would be too much confusion if
he is. I still want Bones,

467
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:09,159
I still think he should be the
backup point guard. But that's not we

468
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,719
know that's not gonna happen if for
us, what if he gets sprayed by

469
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,519
a skunk and he just stinks too
much so they can't They're like, dude,

470
00:35:15,519 --> 00:35:19,639
you can't be in the locker room. It is. But also the

471
00:35:19,639 --> 00:35:22,360
trade value thing is a good point, will because we got Bones for two

472
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,800
seconds, what could his trade value
possibly be? Would fans? I know

473
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,639
that fans. And again this isn't
a knock on whoever asked us this question.

474
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:30,920
I don't. I don't think Christian
Hackney wants this. No, this

475
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,039
is a good This is a great
question. If we traded Bones for two

476
00:35:35,119 --> 00:35:38,840
seconds, I genuinely think Clippers fans
would be upset. They would be like,

477
00:35:39,639 --> 00:35:43,559
I'm like, yeah, it's fair. It just goes again to like

478
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:47,599
we we just don't have a lot
of assets. And I mean because they're

479
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:52,079
not developing anyone exactly exactly, they
don't develop anybody. And like, even

480
00:35:52,119 --> 00:35:55,639
if he ends up being a bust, you can still probably get those two

481
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:59,360
seconds back, you know what I'm
saying, Like the you know, the

482
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,519
worst case scenario, someone is like, well, you know, he's still

483
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:06,239
very young, very raw, hasn't
gotten a whole lot of time. Maybe

484
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,880
we can do something with it.
It's worth a flyer for two seconds.

485
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:14,840
But to do it before even taking
the opportunity I just did or anything,

486
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,559
even Yeah, I don't really get
it. To me, that's like selling

487
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:21,320
something for that's like flipping a property
for a loss or something like I don't

488
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,639
like what so what's the point I'm
only losing ten K on this one?

489
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,800
Dude, I made out pretty good. You gotta cut your losses sometimes,

490
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
but uh, the only way is
that where we were at with Bones,

491
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:37,440
I just don't know. But I
also like this situation was not great.

492
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:42,920
Like PJ Tucker just full disclosure.
I blamed PJ. Tucker being his vet

493
00:36:43,039 --> 00:36:47,840
for his partly his shitty attitude.
That's probably exactly why they wouldn't move him,

494
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,320
because teams were low balling and they
weren't maybe even getting two seconds back,

495
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,119
and they know his potential if he
had a chance to showcase it a

496
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:59,760
little bit more like we thought he
was going to get coming into the season.

497
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:07,199
But Bones Highland is one of the
more talented young guys they've had on

498
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:15,920
this team that has legitimately popped in
spurts in games he almost had, sure,

499
00:37:15,079 --> 00:37:19,559
but we're talking a couple of playoff
games against Phoenix last year, one

500
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:22,079
where he had twenty plus points and
almost won them the game. They should

501
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:25,519
have won that game, but that
take fell on Russ and then almost having

502
00:37:25,559 --> 00:37:32,639
forty this year. There were times
though, when James Harden got back into

503
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:36,679
the rotation as they were giving him
some rest and Bones had the great game

504
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:42,360
against the Chicago Bulls. Once James
came back, Bones did seem to drop

505
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360
his shoulders a little bit, knowing
that he wasn't going to be featured or

506
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,320
get the same amount of minutes and
wasn't taking advantage of the small amount.

507
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,639
He was then getting really bad in
garbage he was. It seemed like he

508
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:00,519
thought I'm above this and look,
talent wise, he should be somewhere if

509
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:05,519
he's not going to be getting minutes
here. I can understand the frustration of

510
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,760
a young player, this talented,
that could easily be a back backup for

511
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,000
I don't know, half the league
you could say, like he's good enough

512
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:19,480
to be that player to get twenty
minutes per night in the NBA right now,

513
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,119
But from half the teams he is
and he knows his payday is coming

514
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:29,599
soon. He has to show something
in order to get that next big contract

515
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:32,760
to stay in the league, and
he simply isn't getting an opportunity. Now

516
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,480
understandable. They bring in James Harden, that changes the pecking order. But

517
00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,920
if Russell Westbrook, you know,
isn't coming back, it has to be

518
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,840
Bones Bowes's job to lose the back
being the backup point guard. Yeah,

519
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:51,559
and that's a good call. It's
interesting even if, like even if for

520
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:53,320
us is coming back. Like I
mean, I've said this before about this

521
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:58,599
team, like nothing no one here
is like other the outside of Kawhi Leonard

522
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:04,360
and like Paul Jewy, Like no
one here has like earned anything like Zoo.

523
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,239
Obviously his spot is cemented, but
like there's so many guys in this

524
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:13,280
rotation that like, no one should
should be so sure of their spot.

525
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,880
Like, I agree with you,
but we know realistically if russ is back

526
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:21,679
bones is not getting minutes sure,
which is a nightmare for a lot of

527
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,880
us people. Can you're saying people
can't change, not this team. Evidently

528
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:30,840
we've seen a lot of not change
in They have to take chances with giving

529
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:37,440
guys and letting them go through those
growing pains young guys on this Clippers team.

530
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,400
They just have to They did it
for a second with Kobe Brown last

531
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,760
year during that ten game stretch.
There has to be more of that coming

532
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,280
into this season because to Will's point, what he was just saying, they

533
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,079
don't have enough assets. They they
aren't developing guys, They aren't giving guys

534
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,920
enough meaningful minutes. I know it's
something hard to juggle when you're trying to

535
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,360
also win a the highest level.
But considering how many injuries they have had

536
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,199
over the last three years and guys
being out of the rotation and they still

537
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,960
haven't been able to develop. You
can say Terrence Man and beats Zubas to

538
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,800
some degree, but they're twenty six
and twenty seven now they haven't gotten one

539
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,800
of those young guys like Brandon Boston
or Bones Highland in this case enough reps

540
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,079
to me, Yeah, I think
that's totally fair. It's weird maybe because

541
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,920
expectations are possibly lowered in some way. Next year we get more run from

542
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:34,320
the young guys. But that's a
discussion for another day. John Stodter with

543
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,880
our last question, another heater of
a question. I cannot describe how good

544
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,239
these questions have been. John Stotter
asks the CBA is pushing teams like the

545
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,199
Lakers to form rosters with two stars
plus depth from the rotation and avoid three

546
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,679
stars plus minimum salaries. But if
Paul George stays and Jim's Harden, the

547
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,239
Clippers already have three stars and some
genuine depth. Don't the Clips have an

548
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,880
edge on most of the NBA because
their roster is the best of both worlds.

549
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,480
If question, like, I mean, if if healthy, sure,

550
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:08,519
yeah, if Harden comes back,
comes back and they're healthy, yeah,

551
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,599
I think the depth is pretty questionable
still, you know, like the the

552
00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:17,480
depth at the top tier talent is
there beyond that? You know, it's

553
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:22,079
it's it's not great, Like it's
it's not great. Eight to ten DP.

554
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,719
It's like Norman then like question Mark, kind of off that match.

555
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,800
It's also not exactly three stars like
we've seen in the past. It's not

556
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:37,639
exactly the Miami Heat where everybody's in
their prime at once and everybody is available

557
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:44,119
all the time. James Harden's about
to turn thirty five or thirty six.

558
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:49,360
He was an innings eeter last season. He played almost every damn game for

559
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,920
the Clippers. But we know the
history with Paul George and Kawhi Leonard in

560
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:58,360
theory. Yeah, they struck while
the iron was hot and brought in James

561
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,840
Harden. I think partly timing wise
at that moment because some of the penalties

562
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,559
come in this summer when it comes
to salary cap restrictions. So that's part

563
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:13,000
of the reason they did it when
they brought in Russell Westbrook at that time

564
00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,920
last season or the year before last. Now, that's a move that can't

565
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,119
be made now by a team in
their position. That's not something you can

566
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:28,400
do anymore. So I have a
lot of faith in this front office and

567
00:42:28,519 --> 00:42:31,639
their ability to be able to juggle
the new rules with the salary cap.

568
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:37,800
But I don't know if it's a
perfect comp the Clippers have, you know,

569
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:44,079
three stars, but also depth.
We've seen Paul George not play like

570
00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:54,039
a star often nothing to prove Max
gu guy. We just saw him score

571
00:42:54,119 --> 00:42:58,800
nineteen points per game in a playoff
series without Kawhi leoner, you know,

572
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:04,199
and I protected him a lot because
what he did in the twenty twenty one

573
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,920
playoffs dragging them to the Western Conference
Finals without Kawhi. But what happened in

574
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,599
this first round series was really a
litmus test, was really a big opportunity,

575
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,559
and he did not rise up in
the moment. So calling them all

576
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,039
stars, you know, when you
think of stars, it's not just dependent

577
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,119
on those three having to be on
the court together for them to all shine.

578
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:30,880
It should also be when two of
them are off or only two of

579
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:37,360
them are on, they're still playing
at an elite level where they could be

580
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,320
featured by themselves with a team,
you know, during nights in the regular

581
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,039
season where you're missing a couple guys, guys who are so good that they

582
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:52,519
can still get you thirty at any
time. I don't know if that's what

583
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:57,079
we're looking at right now, with
Paul George and James Harden being older and

584
00:43:57,159 --> 00:44:01,559
Kawhi Leonard being so injury prone.
Yeah, they're stars in like the seo

585
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:07,400
sense, like they're popular, right, but they're not stars in the shoot

586
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:13,840
thirty times when we really need type. Does the game match the name anymore?

587
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,400
Are they in their prime? All
of them at once? No?

588
00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:22,480
I because if Paul George and James
Harden, and James Harden was pretty good

589
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:28,039
in that first round series. But
if Paul George played to his capabilities of

590
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,039
being known as a quote unquote star, they do win that series. I

591
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:35,719
think, Yeah, I do,
And I know the Dallas Mavericks are right

592
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,440
now in the NBA Finals to some
degree, though not for too much longer,

593
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,800
I don't think. But I think
matchups played a big role in that

594
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,159
series against the Clippers. I think
matchups played a big role for them against

595
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:52,039
the Minnesota Timberwolves, and things have
broke their way, as it always is

596
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:57,960
when you get to the NBA Finals. There's a route of least resistance,

597
00:44:58,519 --> 00:45:01,400
and the Dallas Mavericks benefit from the
Clippers not playing to their capabilities. Even

598
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,679
without Kawhi Leonard. I think they
had a chance to win that series.

599
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,480
I really do. I think if
Paul George is Aberdeen twenty seven. They're

600
00:45:08,519 --> 00:45:15,760
winning that series certainly makes it easier
and makes us want to feel more about

601
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,519
keeping Paul George. If that happens, I should say, it goes to

602
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,199
like a game seven, you know, yeah, A toss up, Yeah,

603
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,000
a do or go flip? Yeah. Thank you again to everyone on

604
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:28,239
the questions. We got him from
Twitter, we got him from YouTube.

605
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,599
Coming up, we are going to
be talking the into It food options,

606
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,480
and Adam and I will be talking
about our dips and maybe we'll find out

607
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:39,400
who Adam saw in Burbank, which
could be a new fun segment on this

608
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,559
show. So if you're listening,
go ahead and turn it down. We

609
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:47,800
got some ads coming up in three
two one. Welcome back in It's clips

610
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,119
and Dip. I'm out of MASLM. We got Chuck Mockler and Will Updyke.

611
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:57,800
We are back at season two,
episode seventy seven for you guys again.

612
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:04,519
Can't state or over st eight how
good questions were. We're percolating on

613
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:08,239
our Twitter feed when Chuck threw that
out there at Clippers Pod. I mean,

614
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,440
if you're listening during the off season, you're clearly a very intelligent fans.

615
00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:16,719
Oh yeah, we appreciate it.
Uh, now we're foodies here.

616
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:22,880
I think we are called clips and
dip. It would go without saying that

617
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:28,159
we like to eat a little bit
and we like the finer things in life.

618
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,599
And there's a new stadium opening up. I don't know if you guys

619
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:36,559
have heard about this, called the
Intuitome. The Clippers will be playing in

620
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:42,559
the greatest arena to play basketball game
in in the history of the world.

621
00:46:43,639 --> 00:46:51,679
When it happened, well from a
design what is the history of MSG done

622
00:46:51,679 --> 00:46:55,679
for the Knicks over the last forty
years. Spil Jackson was there when the

623
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:02,320
titles. I've just it's going to
be the best place to watch a basketball

624
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:08,719
game at, especially because modern amenities
and because of the foodless that's going to

625
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:15,000
be there, which Chuck has for
us finally outlined. And I guess we

626
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:20,079
can give our rating or our excitement
level for some of these dishes. Yes,

627
00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:22,079
there is one large detail we're going
to talk about when it comes to

628
00:47:22,159 --> 00:47:25,840
the popcorn that I'm furious about that
I understand if other people are not as

629
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,960
furious about. But before we get
into that, the La Times put out

630
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,039
a twelve minute video about the into
It Domes food options. They have a

631
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:42,639
housemade pretzel that they went to Bavaria
and worked with famous pretzel stefs for We

632
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:45,519
actually did a question about this awesome
Scott on Twitter wants to know how we

633
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:51,760
feel about combining every single sauce into
one dipping sauce, which would be spicy

634
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:57,599
honey mustard barbecue sauce together the suicide
sauce. I don't know if I'm with

635
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,320
that. I hate it more impatant, more important word. They source the

636
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:06,320
cheese sauce and the and the mustard
for the pretzel. Is it Is it

637
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,159
a Bavarian mustard? Is it a
stone ground? Is it a yellow classic

638
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:13,760
yellow mustard? Which there is nothing
wrong with? Just the Time questions the

639
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:19,679
Time columnist in this video tried the
pretzel, no mustard? Was it?

640
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:27,119
Dylan Hernandezdez pretzel looks fine, whatever, seems like it has a bit of

641
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:34,840
a h optimized story. One key
detail there's supposedly a kitchen at every concession

642
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:40,519
stand, so everything is like made
theoretically. I guess I don't know what

643
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:45,400
that means, because is it made
to order? Is it just like there's

644
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,840
no way, there's just like no
way that it's made to order? Because

645
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:52,079
it was it would be the slowest
stadium. Incorrect in not if they have

646
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:54,960
enough vendors. Man, well,
there's one vendor, and that seems to

647
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,800
be Cisco. No, whoever's giving
them the stuff should be an Arby's.

648
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,079
The sushi. It's no word on
the Arby's. Uh. I'd like to

649
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:07,960
eat a big Montana. Oh.
Look, no one's gonna argue with the

650
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,159
best take. They still have the
meat into it, Yes they do.

651
00:49:12,639 --> 00:49:17,159
Uh. The sushi dog, which
is an interesting thing here. This is

652
00:49:17,199 --> 00:49:22,519
a sushi roll you unwrap and eat
like a corn dog. They have a

653
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:25,599
cali and spicy tuna version. It's
like a corn dog with no stick.

654
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,880
I don't know. I don't know. I don't I don't really like weird

655
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:37,480
sushi stuff. The La Times reporter, Why would you take something that's so

656
00:49:37,559 --> 00:49:39,559
good and just fucking throw up on
it? I don't really get it.

657
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:45,320
The La Times reporter, Uh was
like, oh, I would never eat

658
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,440
In this video, she was like, I would never eat a sushi.

659
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,000
I would never eat sushi at a
stadium due to the fact that a large

660
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,199
part of making good sushi is the
quality of the rice you use, and

661
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,039
the issue with stadiums is like it's
hard to make in a setting like that.

662
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,679
She tried this sushi dog, said
that for like forty five seconds,

663
00:50:01,679 --> 00:50:07,960
and then went But I'd take my
chances on this one very real time.

664
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,519
Who's paying me to cover this food
scenario? But I don't. I don't

665
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:15,119
know about this one. It's hard
now for me. It's hard to mess

666
00:50:15,199 --> 00:50:19,760
up at California rule guys, you're
just like it. It just doesn't.

667
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,159
But it can't. It just just
never wanted that at a game, and

668
00:50:22,199 --> 00:50:27,519
that This is like my whole thing
with this whole stupid food testing thing is

669
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:30,639
like it's just really not that deep. No one goes to a game for

670
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:36,079
the food. No one cares what
they do too. They do not get

671
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,559
dishes. They do a Dodger dog. Are you kidding me? That's a

672
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:43,519
hot dog? You want a hot
dog? Or hamburg group or some hophorn.

673
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,280
It's just I just don't get why
they have to do this whole thing.

674
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,559
It's so stupid. I don't care. We're getting to the popcorn,

675
00:50:52,599 --> 00:50:55,679
which has a real issue but I
want to talk about and we're going to

676
00:50:55,679 --> 00:51:01,320
talk about it. The popcorn is
toffee flavored, which hey, there's two

677
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,280
kinds of popcorn. There's buttered,
and there's the toffee. The toffee.

678
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,960
Adam's excited. The toffee was tested
at like the team facilities, so they

679
00:51:08,039 --> 00:51:13,840
just like had the training center try
it and that's what won. Did coffee

680
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,119
taste the toffee? Ooh, we
don't know. That's a good question though,

681
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:22,880
maybe they could have sweet popcorn is
for people with low IQ's will.

682
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,639
All right, here's where. So
there's the toffee flavored popcorn and then the

683
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:36,719
classic buttered flavor popcorn. To decide
the buttered flavor popcorn, the La Clippers

684
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:43,719
sent Steph Curry ten kinds of popcorn, or he came to the training facility

685
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,920
and picked his favorite buttered popcorn.
And in this video they talk about how

686
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,960
they had to call the popcorn expert, Steph Curry to pick the popcorn.

687
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,519
This is your new stadium, this
is your first new stadium, and you

688
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:02,320
have a guy who kills the Clippers, has an iconic moment against them a

689
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:09,559
few to pick the buttered flavor popcorn, softest most upward integration mobility bullshit I've

690
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:15,159
ever seen in my life. This
is such a bad idea and such a

691
00:52:15,199 --> 00:52:17,679
classic Clippers marketing move, where you
like everything else seems okay, Oh,

692
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:22,079
you made this one dumb ass decision. I cannot believe it. I understand

693
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:25,519
if no one cares as much.
I just again, I just don't get

694
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:30,039
while you're overthinking this so hard,
they've already figured it out. It's movie

695
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:34,559
theater butter. It's it's been around
since hydro, since we've been eating hydrogenated

696
00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:37,760
oils in the late seventies or whatever. The biggest innovation in popcorn was when

697
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,280
they managed to make it so you
could eat it at home. Thank you,

698
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:45,239
Oral Red and Poker. But like, it just is not that deep.

699
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,679
Dude. You get the fucking vegetable
oil with the flavoring in it,

700
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,119
you put it on there, it's
great. I just have a rival team

701
00:52:52,159 --> 00:52:59,679
member pick your buttered flavor popcorn counterpoint
rival for now. Okay, the contract,

702
00:53:00,639 --> 00:53:02,239
that's the other part. Sign and
trade for Paul George, we get

703
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,039
Steph Curry. Hey, who knows
crazier nextually not crazier things have happened.

704
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,320
Crazier things happened happened. But I
hear Golden State has about the trading block.

705
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:14,599
I watched this La Times video and
when they said that, they called

706
00:53:14,639 --> 00:53:17,519
Steph Curry to do the popcorn.
I went and bought ten fluorescent light bulbs

707
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:22,079
and just smashed them in my backyard. That was so mad. It's so

708
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:30,360
stupid. Moving on, they have
chicken tenders with waffle fries and Homage to

709
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:36,159
the South per Gillian Zucker. Why
I don't know. They have barbecue sauce.

710
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:37,760
What does that have to do with
the Clippers? Got a ten out

711
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,719
of ten. They were always gonna
have chicken tenders, So they're like,

712
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:46,519
okay, vegan buffalo rap, crispy
cauliflower kale, Keenewatch, Madeo, red

713
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:52,719
bell pepper, and vegan ranch vinagrette
collyoo. I think buffalo cauliflowers were really

714
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,119
hard to fuck up, so and
I think this is one that's gonna be

715
00:53:55,199 --> 00:53:59,719
like a take, like a grab
and go option, which seems functional.

716
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,719
I'm into it. Not vegan,
but I would try that. Sure Detroit

717
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:09,800
style pizza because why I have anything
that reminds people of Los Angeles between the

718
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:15,599
Homage to the South and Detroit's pizza
cheese, pepperoni, and as Adam mentioned,

719
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:22,440
the meats which is undisclosed meats on
the pizza. They have a proprietary

720
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:27,079
pan to cook this pizza to help
it with the crust. It's a square.

721
00:54:27,679 --> 00:54:30,559
Depends it just depends on how it
is. Because Detroit pizza when it's

722
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:36,519
done well, I think it's like
fucking slaps. Great pizza looks like sauce

723
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:42,800
on top of the cheese and you
have to eat the car because that's how

724
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:50,559
they made pizzas in Detroit. Eminem
blows on it to uh take away some

725
00:54:50,639 --> 00:54:53,119
of the hotness. I mean honestly, Yeah, are they going to have

726
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:57,599
a Mom's spaghetti there? Yeah,
they have to. Yeah, they have

727
00:54:57,639 --> 00:55:00,719
a Coney Island too. We can
get chili cheese dogs. Ben Gibber does

728
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,320
a song about that. Maybe he'll
be involved the Intoit Dome hot dog.

729
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,880
The meat comes from Niemen Ranch.
We got asked by nash Clips fan,

730
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,840
how excited are we for these Niemen
Ranch hot dogs. I don't know anything

731
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:19,280
about Niemen Ranch. Apparently they provide
French laundry with their food. Hello.

732
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,440
And if there's one thing I want
to be reminded of at a sporting event,

733
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,360
it's fine dining. I will say
eight dollars for a dog is not

734
00:55:30,519 --> 00:55:34,079
bad. Five dollars for people with
the chuck mark. So they got they

735
00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,920
got the marketing right on this.
You really buried the lead on this whole

736
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,239
thing. I feel like this is
the best part of of everything that they've

737
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:45,119
announced thus far. Five dollars hot
five dollars hot dog for fans is and

738
00:55:45,159 --> 00:55:47,159
it's all beef, right, It's
an all beef dog. It's not this

739
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:53,400
mixed meat farmer John hot dog?
Right? Correct? I believe lamb oh

740
00:55:53,480 --> 00:56:00,039
is it? No? I don't
know any uh, yeah, no,

741
00:56:00,159 --> 00:56:04,000
this is the this is You're totally
right. Well, this is very clearly

742
00:56:04,159 --> 00:56:06,599
this is the number one thing they
figured out. And you know what they

743
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:09,880
figured out, make it cheaper.
That was their big innovation for this.

744
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:15,239
They just made it cheaper. So
yeah, this is number one on the

745
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:22,239
power rankings. I feel like,
yeah, pizza two charging fans not wearing

746
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:28,880
Clippers jerseys or I mean just in
teams or charge or unrelated team jerseys,

747
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,639
charging them more for beers. I
also think is very funny. Dude.

748
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:34,559
The lost fan cam at King's game
is something they need to do it every

749
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:37,280
single game and if you're just makes
so much. It just makes so much

750
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,800
sense. If you're a lost fan, you should have to pay more for

751
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,920
the experience. They have an l
a street dog. This is the fancy

752
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:51,440
version of course Bacon Pepper's garlic Aoli
and Sada Mayonnai's this. I take umbrage

753
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:58,199
with same. And then there's great
la street dogs by independent proprietors outside of

754
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:02,039
the stadium. I just think you
should get him there. I mean,

755
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,440
it's a five dollars hot dog.
You don't need to give Steve Bomber any

756
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:13,280
more money. It's fine double cheeseburger, American cheese, pickles, clippers sauce,

757
00:57:14,039 --> 00:57:15,920
and it's a brisket short. What
do you think is clipper sauce Thousand

758
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:20,639
Island dressing? Oh, okay,
would be y good with that. Everybody's

759
00:57:20,639 --> 00:57:25,400
special sauce is the same thing.
It's a brisket short, ribbon prime chuck

760
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,920
patty. This seems like a pretty
solid offering. How much is it,

761
00:57:32,119 --> 00:57:36,880
uh, thirty eight bucks? No, I have no idea. They only

762
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,559
lessen the price of the hot dog, which I would say is a little

763
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:44,360
worry. So you know, you
went through like twelve items, you lost

764
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:49,800
the price of one item. And
then finally the churo, which was advised

765
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,599
by the chief Technology and digital OS
for ser who is a big churro head.

766
00:57:54,039 --> 00:58:00,480
I think again, this has been
figured out for longer than of yours

767
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:04,280
centuries has for centuries. They want
to make it special, all right,

768
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:13,360
special enough? Have you ever had
into special? Every turo is uh.

769
00:58:13,559 --> 00:58:15,199
I can't even think of a bit
for turros because they've already been It's just

770
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:20,320
a turo. But these are the
basic offerings, like the hot dog is

771
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:27,320
a clear winner. Yeah, no
dips, huh no, very few dips,

772
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,960
but no mission. I guess we'll
be bringing our own. Look,

773
00:58:30,599 --> 00:58:35,360
if you would like the clips and
dip, bring your own dip kit into

774
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,760
it. We will sell you a
proprietary little pocket. It's a it's a

775
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:44,000
plastic sheet you put in your jackets. You can just go. It sounds

776
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:46,880
like there's a hole in the market
that needs to be filled, if you

777
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:51,679
know what I'm saying. I know
this isn't shark tank at the moment,

778
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:59,920
but sharks I'm proposing dip in the
head. Okay, Now that we have

779
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,159
talked about the into It Dome offering, I wish they did something goofy,

780
00:59:02,559 --> 00:59:07,840
like I wish there was some stuff. I am dying for a goofy local

781
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:13,880
fit like it'd be fun. Also
fresh catch that's isn't that the most.

782
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,440
I mean, that's like one of
the more I LA fairs. This is

783
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,840
something we'll have to keep tabs on. No mention of local restaurants and the

784
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:27,280
into it dome yet not allowed that
quit quite literally might be true, but

785
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,280
that was something that was kind of
a talking point at the beginning of this

786
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:37,719
whole process, was local are tesians
having food offerings in the stadium. I

787
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:44,079
don't know something thing about would complain
more about that. It's they put on

788
00:59:44,119 --> 00:59:47,840
a video. It's to be complained
about. Okay, Adam, Before we

789
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,480
get into the diptalk, can you
please would you like to reveal who you

790
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:57,400
saw in Burbank today, which sounds
like something my aunt would like to reveal

791
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,239
to me as well. Okay,
well, young man, sit down for

792
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:06,920
this, because one of my top
ten favorite actors, one of the most

793
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:13,119
underrated actors of our time, who
has been in at least three of my

794
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,559
favorite movies ever. All episode.
You can kind of just get to it

795
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:22,480
at this point, my man,
including I'm trying to bring up the video

796
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:31,360
right here, I'm stalling Ninja Turtles, the original Casey Jones, tell me

797
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,880
you didn't pay money. Not the
guy who played Raphael but Casey Jones,

798
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:46,480
also known as Elias Kotias, who
is a Canadian actor who has been in

799
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:52,719
such films in large roles, like
A Thin Red Line, which is one

800
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:59,840
of my favorite movies ever, hilarious, which came out the Saviors as saving

801
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,000
it Ryan, which is the only
reason it was overlooked. Will I know

802
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:06,880
you know Terrence Malick films, come
on? Then? Red Line is the

803
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:13,320
greatest film ever with maybe the greatest
cast ever and is huge in it.

804
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,599
He did not play Casey Jones.
He was also in a great film called

805
01:01:17,679 --> 01:01:27,360
Fallen with Denzel Washington about the house
No wait, this isn't a White House

806
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:32,000
Down with Gerard Butler or whatever.
He was also in a great film called

807
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:37,559
Zodiac, a David Fincher movie that's
one of my favorite, one of the

808
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:45,079
most underrated David Fincher movies of all
time. I love he's in the Prophecy

809
01:01:45,639 --> 01:01:52,199
with Vigo Walking. He's the main
actor in it. He is so effing

810
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:58,519
cool and I think should have been
in larger roles. But I met him

811
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:00,360
today in Burbank. It was like
a bucket list thing for me. I've

812
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:07,079
been on cloud nine. You guys
gonna kick it. I hope. So

813
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:07,719
I should have been, like,
you know, I've been hanging out with

814
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,519
Camera Obscurer and all these other cool
people like you want to be part of

815
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:15,480
my Yeah, maybe they'll give him
his version of the Whale in a couple

816
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:19,559
years or something. He'll get an
Academy award. He really should like he

817
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,039
is an all time great actor,
one of the most underrated guys out there.

818
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,280
There we go, that's awesome.
I think you have a Casey Jones

819
01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:32,679
fun co thing too. I do
have one. Oh, you gave it.

820
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,639
I was wondering, who you know? I love Casey Jones for your

821
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:44,000
birthday. The nineteen ninety Ninja Turtles
movie is a top five comic movie ever.

822
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:47,679
Maybe number one for me holds up
fantastic. Jim Henson did the costumes,

823
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:52,800
hence the reference to that earlier six
Degrees of Separation there. But Casey

824
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,719
Jones is my favorite character in that
and I told him that today and I

825
01:02:55,760 --> 01:03:00,159
needed that in my life. And
you got it. And we have two

826
01:03:00,199 --> 01:03:02,119
dips to talk about. We had
some dip questions, but we might have

827
01:03:02,159 --> 01:03:06,679
to save those for another episode.
We have some more time, Adam,

828
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,760
I picked yet again a bad dip, but I really tried hard this time,

829
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,960
Adam, you go first? Year's
was good? Or do you want

830
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,360
me to go first because mine was
bad? You go first? Okay?

831
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,840
The way I am house sitting in
Sierra Madre again. That's why this puppet

832
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,960
is over my left shoulder. And
I went to a local market and I

833
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,039
thought, I'm gonna get a local
brand salsas, you know, pretty big

834
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:37,119
local thing people can make at farms. So I picked up e Waldo Wards,

835
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,440
who started in Sierra Madre. They've
been around since eighteen ninety one.

836
01:03:42,199 --> 01:03:45,440
I picked up their apple salsa.
I was in a bit of a pinch.

837
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:51,800
It was the only saucea they offered. Horrible. I would not recommend

838
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:57,039
this salsa. It is way too
sweet and has no apple. It's that's

839
01:03:57,079 --> 01:04:00,840
all they had. Man, I'm
sure they have a there sausas that are

840
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:08,360
good. I will not be purchasing
this apple salsa again. Swinging a miss.

841
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,719
I tried. This is what happens
when you support local business. No,

842
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,840
I'm just kidding. Everyone should support
local businesses, but this was this

843
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:19,960
was a misguided option. Maybe it's
more for the for the Sierra Madre crowd.

844
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:28,199
It's not salsa ish it's not salsa
e it's apple saucy. Uh,

845
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,000
I am dude. Well, this
is what I would bring to my enemy's

846
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,440
barbecue. And I used classic Calie
Dad chips as the as the base,

847
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:41,559
but I would bring them to an
enemies party and then leave. So the

848
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:45,480
lowest rating. Again, I'm one
for three on dips, and I feel

849
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,519
like a fucking idiot. Well,
glad I didn't make that mistake. I

850
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:54,440
like a peach. I don't know
about apple. We now you do.

851
01:04:55,519 --> 01:05:00,039
I can cleanse the palette here with
actually a fantastic dip that I don't know.

852
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,079
It's not it's kind of underground.
I don't know if you guys have

853
01:05:04,199 --> 01:05:11,440
ever had it before, but this
dip is special and it is quickly become

854
01:05:12,119 --> 01:05:15,639
one of my favorites. I don't
know if you guys have tried it.

855
01:05:15,639 --> 01:05:26,320
It's Dorito's cool. Ranch you it's
not good. You've had it. It's

856
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,880
not good. I know you've been
away. This is going to dude,

857
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,679
we got to document this too.
You don't pay attention to meetings, so

858
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:36,320
you had it when I was on
the show it and it was bad.

859
01:05:38,239 --> 01:05:40,920
Well, I have to do the
test. Now, what do you think

860
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,440
Chuck, you had it before.
I guarantee you it's not falling out.

861
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,719
Half of it is quick dry cement. Damn, I'll tell you what.

862
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:57,239
I am not doing that with this
apple sauce. Okay, it's not great.

863
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:00,840
It's not as bad as Check said
either. Now part of the reason

864
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:06,519
might be because I have these buffalo
style protein chips that I'm dipping in it.

865
01:06:06,599 --> 01:06:11,079
So you know, the buffalo style
with the cool ranch. That's a

866
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:15,400
good combination. It's probably Yeah,
Adam, just coming. I was doing

867
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:20,320
keto before anyone. Okay, I
am Keto me and elious Adam Keto,

868
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,599
Adam Keto Ostlin and Will you do
not have a dip? Do you have

869
01:06:24,679 --> 01:06:29,719
any dip related wisdom you'd like to
impart before we hit this outro? Because

870
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,800
you are an actual Will is a
fantastic cook and knows so much about cooking.

871
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:41,159
What do you got, no pressure? I'm thinking a Zesti crab dip

872
01:06:41,199 --> 01:06:44,880
for summer. Oh shit, and
you know what you compare with that?

873
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:47,880
The chip of the summer, Adam. Do you know the chip of the

874
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:54,480
summer, the one the Boston Celtics
are about to win. Lays made a

875
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:59,159
Cuban sandwich chip, and it is
the best chip in the world. It's

876
01:06:59,199 --> 01:07:00,800
the chip of the summer. You
want to talk about doing too much?

877
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:04,599
No, they got it right,
did they? Really? They have?

878
01:07:04,719 --> 01:07:09,440
You haven't had it? Laise?
Did it? Laise? Did it not

879
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:15,519
some cool crinkle chip company or whatever. No, not some cool crinkle like

880
01:07:15,639 --> 01:07:20,559
Crinkles chips. Yeah, not them, because the one is fabulous. No,

881
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:24,320
Krinkles Chips do not do this one. All right, we gotta get

882
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,239
out of here. We're just gonna
keep talking about dips. We're gonna be

883
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:30,280
back next week. I guess we
should talk the draft because the Clippers do

884
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:33,599
pick in the middle class, a
forty six pick. So we're we're gonna

885
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:39,039
all come with twenty seven draft prospects. We think the Clippers could take at

886
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:41,159
forty six. That's gonna be a
good time. We're gonna try and get

887
01:07:41,199 --> 01:07:45,119
Carl tart On here. Will if
someone wanted to review us or tell their

888
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:48,239
or if they're you know, signing
their resignation letter and they want to leave

889
01:07:48,239 --> 01:07:53,519
a cool ps or people could maybe
you know, get smarter or something at

890
01:07:53,519 --> 01:07:57,679
their workplace. Where could people do
that? Yeah, if you want to

891
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,280
educate your friends and family to be
as smart of a off season listener as

892
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:04,440
you are. Tell them to listen
to this podcast wherever they get their podcasts.

893
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,760
If you listen over on Apple Podcasts
or Spotify, if you leave us

894
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,360
a little ratio and review. I
don't even think there's a limit on how

895
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,480
many times you can compute it on
Spotify, So just you know, get

896
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:17,359
those numbers up there help us out. Of course, the best way to

897
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,159
consume the show is over on YouTube
dot com. That's at Clippers Podcast.

898
01:08:21,239 --> 01:08:26,399
But no matter how you consume,
Hey, we appreciate you. We do

899
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:30,159
appreciate you. And Adam, first
of all, so hyper all three back

900
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,000
was I was so lost without you. I was going, what are we

901
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,159
talking about today? What are we
doing? Adam? It's been missing.

902
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:40,359
We need one positive thing to send
these Clippers fans out on their weekend to

903
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:45,600
think about. Seems like we're gonna
find out in the next two weeks what

904
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,720
is going to happen with Paula,
George and I think fans are anxious to

905
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,680
get to the bottom of this because, like we talked about, it was

906
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:55,279
a storyline coming into this season.
So I don't think we're gonna have to

907
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:58,960
wait much longer. And By the
way, everyone's talking about him and Joe

908
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,880
ellenbid on the pregame show on ABC
right now, and I guess it was

909
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,000
pretty funny. I don't know,
but uh I thought he was fine.

910
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:08,159
I thought he was fine the first
show. Did you hate it? No?

911
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,239
I mean he only got to talk
for like ten seconds, So you

912
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:14,640
have too many people on there.
Burray was love. Murray was like.

913
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:19,239
The ratio of host to time for
these finals makes like no sense. Well,

914
01:09:19,279 --> 01:09:24,520
it's like the size of the Doomsday
Strategy panel and Doctor Strangelove. It's

915
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,880
like, how many people do you
have to get to the bottom of Who's

916
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,359
gonna win tonight between two teams?
God? Yeah, yeah, all right,

917
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:35,079
so yeah, so that's Paul George. I think it's positive. It's

918
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:40,520
gonna put some minds at ease because
everything else that happens with this Clippers team,

919
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,920
this is the first domino really to
fall. We all expect James Harden

920
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:47,039
to likely be coming back, but
how are they going to build the team

921
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,760
with or without Paul George? How
are they going to reconfigure this thing?

922
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:57,359
I don't know. That's less of
a positive vibe and more of a void

923
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,000
vibe. I think it's the end
of the finals. Yeah tonight, I

924
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:09,560
mean tonight, work for Dallas.
I think it's over. Regardless, someone's

925
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:14,319
ever come back down three to zero. So congratulate Boston, Celtics and Luca

926
01:10:14,359 --> 01:10:18,239
haters everywhere. Was there a plenty
When it comes to Clippers fans, we're

927
01:10:18,279 --> 01:10:24,079
doing okay right now. All right, we back up, we're a little

928
01:10:24,119 --> 01:10:27,359
bit. We're still very down bad. All right. That wraps it up.

929
01:10:27,399 --> 01:10:29,720
Thank you everyone who listened, who
watched. We'll be back next week

930
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:30,880
and as always, let's go clips.
