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I'm afraid he's so dadded. Hello, norcous, Hello, everybody, Welcome,

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Hope everyone had a great Labor Day
weekend. It's Matt Connerton Unleashed and

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is here at the news desk.
I am present and accounted for Monday.

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No no, no, oh wait, I know. I'm not happy,

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Holly kidding. And we have and
we have a guest joining us in studio.

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She is a New Hampshire state representative. Jody Newell is here. Hello,

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heyo, how are you. I'm
good, happy to be here,

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Thanks for having me. Yeah,
welcome, it's your first time on the

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show. And uh so we're gonna
talk to uh we're gonna talk to the

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representative about some things in a moment, but also too, we do have

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at the top of the hour Eric
Pilcher's classic film review. He wasn't able

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to do it for Friday, so
we have that today and this week,

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or I should say today rather because
he'll have another one on Friday. The

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subject is The Crazies, the George
A. Romero classic from nineteen seventy three.

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zero six O seven. And uh
So, Jody, the thing that and

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this is I believe what is what
connected you and Jenny online is this legislation

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that you were involved. Did you
did you write this or what we're about

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to talk about or did you sponsor
it? Or no, I'm sorry,

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I did a terrible job prep for
you. It's a federal piece of legislation.

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Oh it is, yes, Oh, and that's I sent you a

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link to the congressional website with the
information on the mad Act, and it's

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something that set let me do this, I need to do this. Let

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me introduce the honorable Representative Jody knew
it that I have been Literally I ended

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up fan girling on you and went
down a total rabbit hole and found myself

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looking at images of you back in
twenty twenty or twenty seven, wherever it

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was, fighting for these things,
fighting for people to have proper care.

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I want, I really want people
to hear from you how this works,

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what this is about, what we're
hoping to achieve, and you know why

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it should matter to people, especially
here at home in New Hampshire and in

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Manchester even sure, And I'll tell
you honest, since I've become a representative,

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it's it's really cool because I get
to see how it actually plays out

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and and hear it from people who
have no idea that I was part of

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this, a part of this,
And I'll just put it that way,

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I can't really take ownership of it, but I was very strongly invested in

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it. And so what it is
is the mad Act. It was actually

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it was prime sponsored by our own
UH Senator Maggie Hassan. Props to Maggie

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Hassan on this one. And what
it is is there's a drug called abuse

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bufferine. I still after what three
years, I still have to to sound

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it out really quickly. But basically
it's the generic of sabaxan. And what

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it is is essentially in the you
know, when it when it first came

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out, they put these certain kind
of cumbersome rules around it, and so

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doctors trying to prescribe it the way
that they had to do it, there

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were certain things in place that were
essentially barriers to two doctors being able to

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prescribe it. Now, think about
this, right, if there's a doctor

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that is a doctor has been through
medical school who can prescribe literally anything else,

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I mean, I don't know,
maybe there's one or two, but

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they can prescribe anything thing else.
Yet this one drug that is a treatment

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for substance use disorder. They call
it medication assisted treatment. That's what the

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MADI stands for. And so they
can prescribe anything else with their you know,

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their license, but if they want
to prescribe this one drugs box and

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abuse boverine, then they have to
go through this kind of training process and

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they have to be certified and all
these kind of things. So it's just

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this kind of barrier two doctors being
able to prescribe it in the first place,

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and especially when you're in a place
like New Hampshire and you know,

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we have a lot of rural areas
where people don't have access to be able

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to come in real quick and and
you know, find a doctor that they

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can get prescribed this through or things
like that, it puts it essentially puts

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a barrier. So essentially what the
mad Act did was it removed those barriers

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so that more people could could could
could prescribe it, and that in that

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way, more people who were uh, you know, navigating the recovery system

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and trying to use medications as a
tool to be able to get through that,

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more people can now use that,
which increases the odds that people will

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actually be able to be success fall
in that effort. Does it allows people

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who have addiction issues a way to
potentially really get off of the medication that

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they're addicted to, or the drug, the street drug that they're addicted to,

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Because they can be put on this
and then weaned down so they can

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be it can be controlled. They
can help the person not suffer, not

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end up so sick that you know, they hurt themselves or something terrible happens.

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It's a way of bringing back a
life. It's a way of saving

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a life and bringing them back that
they can be happy and have a full

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life and be able to enjoy their
lives and their families. Addiction is a

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horrible, horrible thing, and I
know a lot of people like to kind

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of well, you know, you
put yourself there. However, somebody becomes

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addicted. It doesn't matter how they
got there. The only way to save

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their life is to treat them,
not incarcerate them. And I know that's

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something near and dear to your heart, matright, that you've talked about quite

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frequently on the show, Which is
why I wanted to bring this up in

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the show, is to show you, you know, some of the work

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that's being done is actually starting to
produce some fruit, and I think that's

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vital in the climate that we're living
in. I mean, addictions have grown

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exponentially over COVID. People weren't able
to live life normal and a lot of

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some of those folks ended up addicted
to drugs and addicted to alcohol. And

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we need to handle this crisis that
we're in, or we can just pocket

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truck and start throwing bodies in it, because that's what's going to happen.

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We're just gonna, you know,
we're gonna see the fruit of that if

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we don't teach. I believe,
if we don't treat people now and get

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wet, we're almost past that point, if you will, that we need

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this. This needs to happen more. Patients need to have access so they

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can be weaned off of the medications
or the drugs that they're addicted to and

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get their lives back. I mean, isn't that what we all want?

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Right? Absolutely well? As I
always say too, you know, and

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I opposed the drug war and a
broader sense to begin with, and I

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feel that a part of what and
by the way, people misunderstand what I

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mean when I say that, you
know, like I've had people and you

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probably have to be. People will
say ridiculous things like, oh, so

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you think it's fine for someone to
go sell crack at a playground, and

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that should be legal. No,
of course not. I just don't want

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to lock up addicts anymore. And
and that's really it. Uh, you

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know, we should be treating addiction
like a medical problem. I mean,

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I help people with you know,
I'm a hypnotherapist. I help people to

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quit smoking, and that's a wide
ranging addiction. In this country, millions

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of people are addicted to cigarettes.
So so that's a great example of why

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we shouldn't instead of judging people who
are addicted, because most you know,

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and most Americans are addicted to caffeine. I've read studies that show that caffeine

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addiction is as something like more than
eighty percent. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah. So if I could just
throw on really quick, because it's

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interesting to think about why in the
first place, uh, those barriers and

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those those kind of strings were put
onto it in the first place, as

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opposed to any other drug, right, as opposed to being able to prescribe

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anything else just fine, as opposed
to being able to prescribe the opiates in

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the first place. Right, But
but really, I think, you know,

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coming out the other end, I
want to say that that I'm seeing

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a positive shift. But where it's
coming from is this idea of, uh,

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you know, if you're using medication, then that's just a crutch and

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you're just enabling people. And this
kind of thing, this kind of mentality

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that I think we're we are definitely
seeing a shift from. And I think

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that this is part of that shift, part of acknowledging that shift and that

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shift being manifested into our actual policies, you know what I mean, Which

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is good, it's great at the
end of the day to look at that.

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It's it's all part of this kind
of shift of mentality when when you

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talk to someone who argues in favor
of keeping that barrier there what not that

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I'm asking you to make somebody else's
argument for them, but like, what

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are some of the things that you've
run into when people say, oh,

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no, we need to have this
barrier and we shouldn't change the law.

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You know, unfortunately, there is
kind of and I wouldn't say that this

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is common honestly, and and you
know, with a bad act. You

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know, like I said, anybody
that I talked to about it now,

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I think people are understanding about it
and say, oh yeah, of course

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it shouldn't be that way, you
know, right, But I think it

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comes from from a broader perspective.
And you know, I mean there are

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some places, there are some groups, and you know, even people who

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are very sensitive to and trying to
support people through recovery, who who look

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at using medication assisted treatment as as
cheating. I think that that's not real

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sobriety and like I said, not
a lot of people. It's it's definitely

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a very very small minority at this
point, but it is still kind of

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ingrained in certain circles. Yeah,
we kind of demonize the word taper.

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We demonize the word taper. And
I victimized myself that way once. I've

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been on fentinyl patches twice in my
life in the early years, when I

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you know, you know how it
goes with all of these chronic illnesses and

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such, that was like the go
to to try and help me when we

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were we had pretty much run out
of a lot of options. The first

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time that I was coming off of
the patches, I was just like,

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oh, I don't want to I
don't want these anymore. And I ripped

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the sucker off on my arm.
I didn't pay attention to what the doctor

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told me to do. And that
weekend I suffered. I mean I suffered.

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I was so so sick from it. And I had done it to

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myself. I had victimized myself because
I had demonized the idea't oh, I

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don't. I don't want to have
to take oxy because that was the drug

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to taper off of the fennel is
the oxy. I don't want it to

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take oxy like so, yeah,
I suffered the second time I got put

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on fentyl patches after our procedure,
I listened to the doctor. I took

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the oxy as prescribed, and he
put me on this this daily REGI you

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take this many on this day and
every day you take a certain amount and

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it goes over a period of like
two weeks at least to completely weaned off.

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And I didn't suffer for nothing,
and I shouldn't have had to suffer.

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I got breast cancer that led to
CRPS. I did nothing of a

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sort to to deserve anything, because
that's the other thing people will say,

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what'd you do to deserve it?
I didn't do it a dang thing to

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deserve it. But I demonized and
I victimized myself by thinking taper or awe,

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well I don't want to take the
oxy. Yeah, and I'll say,

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you know, we talk about stigma, right, this is this is

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all part and parcel of the stale. Right. But stigma doesn't just come

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in one form. Stigma comes in
three forms. It's social stigma, it's

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structural stigma, and then it is
self stigma. And the self stigma is

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the internalized that's what you're describing.
You're describing saying, oh, well,

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I've never heard this, I've never
heard this. I mean, it's very

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interesting, and in all of them
amount to the same thing. Right.

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They all feed each other, these
things, you know. Okay, so

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social stigma is essentially your family and
your friends and your community and things like

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that. Structural stigma that's wet is
manifested in policy, right, and then

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there's your individual or a self stigma, I internalized stigma, and all of

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these things feed each other. So
because of the societal stigma, we implement

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these laws and then these laws,
you know what I mean, and it

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comes back on the on the individual
and you know, vice versa, and

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they all kind of feed each other. But you know, we're breaking that

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down, we're breaking that down.
That's what I have to say. And

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you know what I just say really
quickly because at the end of the day,

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thank you Perdue Pharma for making us
distrust our doctors, you know what

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I mean, Because at the end
of the day, what is that there

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is a kernel of truth in that
that that that was what was happening when

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doctors were prescribing it in the first
place. Now they didn't know, they

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didn't do that intentionally, they were
directly led to believe the things that Perdue

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Fharma was was giving them in the
first place. So all these people kind

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of you know, became the face
of Perdue Pharma's greed. At the end

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of the day, Well can you
can you expand on that because I don't

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know much about that, and oh
yeah, well you got to look into

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it. It's it's it's a really
really interesting topic because right now the settlements

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are coming down, right, and
so there are a variety of settlements and

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they're from a variety of organizations,
right, So not only Perdue Pharma,

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who is basically the brainchild of it, you know, and pushing this or

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whatever, but then there's also distributors. There's also consultants and there's also you

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know, all of these different entities, the pill mills, all these things

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that all work together to push you
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classic winner. This is the family
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new drug, they sold the bill
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sales pitches that this was a great
drug to treat pain. It's not addictive,

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it's wonderful, your patients will be
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the time too, I think that
was right around the time when we were

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having pain as a vital sign.
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the doctors thought that, oh this
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you know, and they prescribed it. The sales reps would come in

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and they give free samples and all
them sales kittens or something like that.

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They can't do it anymore, but
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with all kinds of drug stuff.
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champion. This was the beginning of
the thirty day free trial thing, you

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know what I mean, where you
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so they gave out all these packets
free child free trials to these doctors.

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So these doctors are like, well, we have this priest that this is

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wonderful. You know, why suffer
for nothing? Why should my patients have

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to suffer if they don't need to
write? And it was explicitly marketed as

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non addictive. Oh okay, so
doctors weren't limiting as you know, if

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you still had pain, okay,
I'll just keep prescribing. But they but

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they is the charge against Perdue that
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that they absolute and the reason why
you really look into it, that's what

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these lawsuits are that she was talking
about. These settlements. People are winning

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against the company, but the family
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themselves from any fiscal responsibility. And
the Supreme Court, as I have something

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to say about the Spring Courts,
well, but they put the kabash on

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this kind of settlement with you know, for the Sackler family that they said,

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oh okay, well we'll give you
six billion dollars. Okay, we'll

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give you six billion dollars, which
is a drop in the bucket for the

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Sackler right, if if we individually
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the future, so individually as people, they're going to be fine, which

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Purdue is going to have to pay
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isn't going to have to pay for
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Yeah, we have a call.
Shannon is on the line. Hi,

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Shannon, Hello, Jenny, Hey, And I'm sorry, ma'am I English

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name, that's okay, Jody,
Jody. Here's another end of the spectrum.

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I have a friend of mine who
has been at Cyper Center in New

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Hampshire Hospital all those places they're for
years, and something happens and they're bringing

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whatever they snap and they end up
at one of these places. But and

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once these guys get you for ten
days, they don't give you the medication

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you take on a regular basis,
So basically you're withdrawing. Then they let

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you out. Then you just create
more havoc because you're withdrawing, you know,

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and you have to go back and
it's it's it's like a vicious circle.

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And I I guess the the PCPs
don't have any say once you know,

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the that establishment kids, you know, people as patients, right,

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yeah, well there's a lot wrong
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the area of mental health, that's
for sure. Yeah. I mean you'd

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think, okay, well they've been
good for the last nine years. They

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must be doing something right and something
just happened, so let's not take her

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off, you know, but they
do. Yep, yep, absolutely,

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yeah, yeah, all right,
I will let you go. All right,

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Shannon, I'll be listening. Thank
you, all right, thank you

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for the call, and that does
open up the line for you six zo

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three two five O six zero seven
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seven if you would like to join
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So, so the issue, the
issue is not with the medication itself,

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but Purdue knew that it was they
knew that it was addictive, and

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they lied, pushed it, pushed
it, pushed it. I mean the

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reason I bring up McDowell County specifically, I mean this is in West Virginia.

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This is an area that is very
economically disadvantaged. I mean, these

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towns were built around coal, you
know what I mean. And all that

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kind of stuff. And now so
here you you have kind of the perfect

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the perfect storm to bring to bring
in something that is going to, uh,

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you know, alleviate people's pain in
other ways, you know, economic

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pain, in being disfinished and things
like that. So taking advantage of a

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situation where people are already down on
their look and then you you know,

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put it in there in you know, I mean, that was really the

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I would I would think one of
the first kind of bell weathers, you

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know what I mean that that people
were really it was brought to people's attention,

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right right. How did you get
involved in this issue specifically? What

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is it that drives your passion for
it? Yeah? I actually so my

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kid's father, my fiance at the
time this is coming up on fifteen years

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ago, it'll be fifteen years on
Christmas Eve, and he overdosed on heroin

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in our bathroom on the other side
of a closed door. I was a

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person busting the door, be honest. I mean at this point, this

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was brand new. I mean to
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have heard, I might have heard
something here and there about you know,

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the overdose crisis and things like that. But Honestly, at that point,

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it was really not on my radar, and it was not on a lot

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of people's radar. It was.
It was really crazy to see, you

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know, people coming in for his
wake and his funeral who were just completely

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shocked. You were just completely shocked. And then since then, I'll be

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honest, I watch a lot of
people, you know, man, I

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could count off probably thirty thirty five
people from my graduating class who who over

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Heroin, Oxy's whatever it was.
And uh, you know, it just

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took everybody by storm. And uh
so that's what really you know, so

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that that's at the heart of it. But I didn't start really getting active

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right away. Right, I thought
we had that was right. Obama's getting

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elected, Okay, Bama is talking
about it on the national level, right,

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and we're thinking, all right,
well, everybody's going to be an

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all hands on deck moment. Everybody's
gonna rally, we're gonna figure this thing

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out, and we're gonna take care
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no, I look back, you
know, sixty seven eight years later and

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realize it's getting worse and worse and
worse, and clearly what we're doing is

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wrong, you know. So That
was really what got me looking into it

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and figuring out, well, what
are we doing and how should we actually

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look at this, How should we
actually approach this so that we're doing the

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most to actually save lives. And
honestly, at the end of the day,

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when it comes down to the war
on drugs and the criminalization, I

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think that that has a large part
to do with it. Now, I'll

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tell you Corey. That was my
fiance who passed. You know, Corey

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was He was pulled over one day
by the State Police. This is before

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we anybody in our family even knew
that he had a problem with her,

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right and so he was pulled over
by the state police. He had a

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whole bunch of pills and he had
heroin. And so I get that call.

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I get that call from the State
Police Police barracks. And I'll tell

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you what that phone call sounded like. I have gotten a lot of gotten

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probably more than my fair share of
calls from jail, okay, just a

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completely broken down man. And to
hear kind of the way that he was

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treated, you know, And I
get it, right, I get it

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on some level, okay, But
to treat someone like that, and then

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and then what he had was at
first it was a fifteen year mandatory minimum.

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Wow, fifteen year mandatory minimum is
just the standard equation. Doesn't have

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anything to do with his situation,
doesn't have anything to do with him or

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you know whatever, what kind of
harm he would do or anything like that.

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What it had to do with it
was a standard equation. Yet this

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many pills, yet, this many
bag, this you know whatever, and

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this is this is what that equals
because this is just mandatory minimums, right,

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That's how it is faceless. So
can you imagine we had just had

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our first son, okay, my
son Corrado, and I was well,

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actually at that point I didn't know
I was. I was we were going

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to have Benny, right, Benny
wasn't wasn't a sparkle in my eye yet,

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I like to say, you know, but just a couple of months

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later found out that I was pregnant
with Benny. So can you imagine,

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like you're going through this situation and
you're looking at having two children that you

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are only going to see through glass
for the next fifteen years, and then

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we tell somebody, yeah, go
better, go get better to go to

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AA, go to your thirty meetings
in thirty days, you know whatever,

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and all these kind of things,
and when somebody who is who is facing

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that situation, especially Corey Man,
he was just you know, that kind

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of Italian family man, you know
what I mean, I was like his

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goal and here he is completely broken
down from this situation. And then looking

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at fifteen years, do you really
think that that's going to help anybody in

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that situation? Is that is he
going to get better? Or are we

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going to do okay in that situation? What is this helping? You know

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what I mean? And so criminalization, I mean, I guess I have

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a certain kind of chip on my
shoulder about that feels what happens specifically with

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Corey. But no, it needs
to be treated as a health issue,

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you know. And the more we
dig digging our heels as this criminalization,

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the worst it gets. We're seeing
the numbers rise again, guys, I

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mean yeah. And to top off
the fact that it doesn't work, it

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makes the rest of our world unsafe. It makes us less safe because we

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have less room for actual violent offenders
who have done horrible things physically to somebody

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else or taken a life. We
have overcrowded jails because we because we put

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addicts in them. That is,
that is a fact. That is a

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fact up to anybody, any state, check out any penal system. There's

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far more in there for drug charges
than anything else. Nick Murdock in the

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chat room says, and he's being
sarcastic of course when he says this.

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He says, yeah, but putting
someone in jail for fifteen years on a

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first offense is important so our private
prisons can make money. That is,

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that is a big part of the
scam. I mean, that's and you

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know that's. Uh. They're a
very powerful lobby in Washington, the private

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prison industry, and they're a big
part of making sure that the war on

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drugs continues. Yep, yep.
We just had a m Were you there

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for a jen What it was?
Did you come for the rally at the

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DA building in Arlington? Oh?
When we were out there, No,

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I was in with Mark I think
I was in with Mark Lee's people when

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you guys went there, I had
to peel off. Yeah, we just

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had so this is you know,
with People's Action. We had our convention

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there and uh, the last action
of the day I was I was actually

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got to be a part of the
planning team for this, so I was

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really really looking forward to it.
And what we did was, you know,

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we set up we had a memorial
wall, you know, and had

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speakers in a in a huge rally
outside right outside the building. There were

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some people who went in to deliver
a letter. There are other people who

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just stayed outside. And the people
who went in came out and joined us

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afterwards, but you know, right
out on their front doorstep. This is

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the fifty year anniversary of the d
EA, right, so we wanted to

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be there today. You know,
fifty years of devastation, fifty years of

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tearing communities and families apart. You
know, no shade to anybody individually in

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the day. I'm just saying,
at the end of the day we put

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these systems in place. It's like
this day when we have the structure we

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have to you know, that kind
of stuff. But at the end of

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the day, we put these systems
in place, and then it just goes

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it takes on a life of its
own, you know. Yeah. Yeah,

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Now are you in terms of the
war on drugs itself or what would

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you do? Because I know that
for me and this is something I've discussed

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with many people on the show over
the years. You know, I I

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dig the Portugal model, which I'm
sure you're familiar with, where basically,

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again, it's not it's not just
making it's not making it a free for

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all where just everything's legal still illegal
to sell it. I believe in Portugal

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you can't go out and sell it
on the street. That's illegal. But

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you're not going to prison if you're
caught with something that you're maybe not supposed

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to have because you have an addiction. In other words, you know,

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they're treating addicts like they have a
medical issue, not like criminals. And

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that's basically it from my understanding of
it. I mean, what's your Is

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that kind of similar to what you
would like to see happen here? Yeah,

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and it's I'll tell you it's really
interesting. We I'm on the Criminal

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Justice Committee, right and so yeah, for the state of New Hampshire.

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And what's what's interesting to me is, you know, we had we had

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quite a few bills come in that
we're around decriminalization, right and I am

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for legalization regulation, uh that kind
of thing, right, But certain bills

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came in and they said, okay, well, we're just gonna take these

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things, you know, we're just
gonna do. One was just delete the

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Control Drug Act, or there's another
one that was just you know, completely

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legalizing certain substances and whatever. And
at the end of the day, ultimately,

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I do think that that is the
goal ultimately, but I think that

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there has to be a system in
place. So I am voting against these

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things you know that are decriminalization,
Whereas you know, I am very vocal

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about the fact that I do think
that it should be decriminalized, legalized,

409
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:49,359
but there has to be a system
in place. We do have to make

410
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,920
sure shed there is something so that
the the the purity, uh you know,

411
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,119
the potency of things, that we
understand what's in it and things like

412
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,799
that. I do think that we
need that. You know, it shouldn't

413
00:27:00,839 --> 00:27:03,200
be for people who are under eighteen. I mean, there are you know,

414
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:04,200
certain things that we still have to
have in place. We can't just

415
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,519
completely throw the whole thing out.
So on the one hand, I say,

416
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,839
yes, yes we should. Well
let me just put it this way.

417
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,880
I did vote for cannably cannabis legalization
across the board, basically just taking

418
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,640
that out that was for people over
eighteen. Yes, yes, I'm for

419
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:21,680
that Yeah, with marijuana, go
for it. But I'm glad. I'm

420
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,359
glad you explained all that because,
like I said earlier, you know,

421
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,240
when you say, you know,
if you say you opposed the war on

422
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:30,599
drugs, people get these wild ideas
that that don't comport with what what we're

423
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,640
actually talking about. Our friend Ron
is online. Hey Ron? Yes,

424
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:40,640
and and uh, well what a
topic. I wanted to ask your guests.

425
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:47,960
Now that you know it's it's already
happened. Does she think that there

426
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680
were signs that she missed? I
mean, I guess if you're in you

427
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,480
know, person takes heroin unless I've
just taken mild amounts, it's a noticeable

428
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,519
thing and effects us so much.
I don't know looking back at it.

429
00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,680
Do you think there were signs and
then she just missed them? Oh?

430
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,680
Absolutely absolutely, Ron. It's funny. I was actually just talking about talking

431
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,559
about this with somebody else. I
think I was just kind of you know,

432
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,960
do wide and and you know,
it's it's interesting because there were definitely

433
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,079
things that I noticed that were odd, you know what I mean. It's

434
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,400
amazing to me to think that I
didn't understand. I just did not even

435
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,720
connect that, you know, he's
nodding off. We know that most people

436
00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,720
now you say nodding off, and
they know exactly what that means. First

437
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:30,559
in here watching this, and I'm
thinking, what's wrong with you? Man?

438
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,599
You know what I mean? Like, I just you know, think

439
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:37,839
the kind of little little things that
you know, I knew, you know,

440
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:41,799
things weren't he wasn't being completely honest
with me, and I would interpret

441
00:28:41,839 --> 00:28:42,920
them in different ways. I thought
this man was cheating on me. If

442
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,480
you knew our relationship, you'd be
laughing right now. You know. About

443
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:51,200
the money, yeah, yeah,
it was there. You know, did

444
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,799
that show up? You know,
and that's that's a deficiencies, you know,

445
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:59,319
not enough on the account and the
money. Yeah, spending was like

446
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:00,559
wow, what it go? You
know? Yeah, it was pretty quickly

447
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480
like it was. It was right
towards the end that he essentially put me

448
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,720
in charge of the money and that
was part of kind of him trying to

449
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,519
hold himself accountable. Yeah, and
you know, we did have there was

450
00:29:10,599 --> 00:29:12,440
I think one maybe maybe one more
where it was just like, oh I

451
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,000
had to take out this money to
do this, and blah blah blah and

452
00:29:15,079 --> 00:29:18,400
kind of you know, just covering
it up and away and coming up with

453
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,799
stuff and I'm looking at him like, I know when this guy's not telling

454
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,039
me the truth, you know what
I mean. But I didn't have kind

455
00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:26,359
of I didn't have the context to
be able to understand why. Yeah,

456
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,759
you know, how about you and
your kids today? Yeah, you guys,

457
00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:32,920
you sound like you really got it
together. You know, your kids

458
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,559
are good and that kind of stuff
fog. You know, you'll never get

459
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:38,680
tasted. But yet you know,
with education you are, you're that much

460
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,640
stronger and better off than you were. Yeah, I think, I mean,

461
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,920
you know, we are doing all
right. My boys are fourteen and

462
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,759
fifteen now. Still just sounds crazy
to say that. And we just had

463
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,759
you know, we just had the
Overdose Awareness Day vigil. There was one

464
00:29:52,839 --> 00:29:56,799
and conquered and uh we and you
know, we had one in Keen and

465
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,839
to see my son there, you
know, my one of my sons didn't

466
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,559
didn't come down for it. But
you know, here's my son and he's

467
00:30:03,559 --> 00:30:06,880
sitting there, he's standing there with
a Corey's mom and a candle and you

468
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,079
know that kind of stuff. And
my kids, listen, My youngest was

469
00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,319
born two and a half weeks after
Corey passed, so wow Pool boy.

470
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,880
It was a lot, you know, and so what I what I say

471
00:30:18,079 --> 00:30:22,079
honestly is that my kids, my
kids grieved with me, you know,

472
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,119
unfortunately they that was the way it
had to be. You can't just say,

473
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,160
Okay, I'm gonna take this time. I'm going to set myself aside

474
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,160
and you know, do all this
thing. And you know, there were

475
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,400
a lot of things that I did
during that time, and you know,

476
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,480
really trying to get through things,
you know, and really honestly trying to

477
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,599
impress upon my kids Corey's real character, his true character, you know what

478
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:44,319
I mean, because you know what
the stigma is. And you know,

479
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,480
when they get old enough, they're
gonna they're gonna encounter that, you know.

480
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,759
So I did these things like I
would just tell stories and stories and

481
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:53,279
stories, and I just because I
wanted them to know who their dad was.

482
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,079
You know, Coado was it,
you know, a year old a

483
00:30:56,079 --> 00:30:59,359
little over a year old when he
passed, but an he wasn't even born

484
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,440
yet, you know, yeah,
And it was amazing to me at one

485
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,440
point, I did you able to
find out how I got started? I

486
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,720
mean, you know it's just a
recreation thing, or do you find out

487
00:31:07,759 --> 00:31:11,000
how to get started. Yeah,
we actually we had lived out in California

488
00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,920
for a while. We lived out
in the Bay Area, and you know

489
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,319
for the two well, I had
lived there for two years before that,

490
00:31:18,359 --> 00:31:19,119
maybe two and a half years before
that. He had lived there for a

491
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,480
little bit longer and my brother both
moved out there together, and so when

492
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,559
we were out there, we just
we just happened to have a connect.

493
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,680
And you know, we were recreational
drug users. You know, I don't

494
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,440
know every you know, different people
might have their different standards and things like

495
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,960
that, but we we we did
use substances as uh, you know,

496
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,480
an experience and Hanser you know that. So there was already kind of that

497
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,799
foot in the door. Now when
I became pregnant, that's it. That's

498
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:47,480
biological imperative. And believe me,
I don't I'm not shaming anybody who has

499
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,599
trouble doing that. But fortunately I
was able to just cut it off and

500
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:56,680
be done right. Good Corey on
the other hand, because I don't want

501
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,880
to, you know, be a
radio hog, but I can say that

502
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:07,400
probably h and be positive. It
seems like everybody knows someone who's has passed

503
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:13,240
away because of an OD. I
know, two people, clearly. One

504
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,960
of them was a straight a student. He hung out with some kids.

505
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,640
They partied, and it wasn't done
just rowing. It had to get the

506
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,400
fence and all or whatever. The
other kids were able to get help,

507
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,839
and they you know, they knock
hand them. But this one particular kid,

508
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,200
he decided to not hang out with
the crowd and he was walking home.

509
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:38,720
So therefore he when you know,
when the old took place, you

510
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,599
know, he was all by himself. And uh and that's just like I

511
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,039
said, I know two people.
I know two people. I know one

512
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:49,880
girl. So her parents were loaded
and they put her in every treatment center

513
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,720
they could. And I saw her
at a company picnic on a Sunday and

514
00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:58,559
she was bragging how she's clean and
sober and feeling good. Monday she wasn't

515
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:02,319
with us. So, oh god, it's like everybody knows somebody absolutely absolutely

516
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:07,000
all right, Ron, Well yeah, yeah, God bless you and your

517
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:12,680
family and and everybody else that's listening, you know. All right, thanks

518
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,519
guys, all right, Ron,
thank you for the call. Bye bye

519
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:17,240
bye. Always nice to hear it
from our friend. Ron. That does

520
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,839
open up the line for you if
you'd like to join the discussion six zo

521
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,039
three two five zero six zero seven
six O three two five zero six o

522
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,039
seven. Are you in your first
term as a state rep? Yeah?

523
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,559
Okay, yeah, what what drove
you to run? I assume this was

524
00:33:32,599 --> 00:33:37,160
one of the issues, right,
yep, Yeah, so you know this,

525
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,279
money in politics, healthcare, there
are a lot of them, reproductive

526
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:44,079
friends, Chez. We've seen what's
happening with that. You know, there

527
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:45,799
are a variety of issues, but
I would say that the ones that that

528
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,880
I feel like I'm most valuable,
you know that I can be most helpful

529
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,680
in are in substitute and recovery and
things like that, and you know,

530
00:33:54,200 --> 00:34:00,799
healthcare, reproductive. So yeah,
I my my representative was stepping down,

531
00:34:00,839 --> 00:34:05,319
which is funny because now they redistricted. He's not even in my destoy anymore.

532
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,960
But you know, he was thinking
about it. I had run for

533
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:13,440
city council the year before. There's
you know, and had been involved with

534
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,039
you know, the Democratic Party,
and you know a variety of different things.

535
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,519
I've been an activist, you know, so I've been involved in politics

536
00:34:17,559 --> 00:34:21,599
as as an activist and advocate.
You know, however, you wanted to

537
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:22,840
find those things. So I had
already kind of been involved. So when

538
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,519
Sparky was was stepping down, he
said, you know, if you're going

539
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:30,000
to run, that would make me
feel a lot better about stepping down.

540
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,679
Yeah, all right, cool sounds
good. And so yeah, and I

541
00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:37,199
actually got elected. Surprise, PRIs
we have a call. I think this

542
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,599
is I think this is Charles from
Florida. Charles is that you? Yeah,

543
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,039
that's me. How are you doing? Hey? You good? How

544
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:50,719
are you? How bad? First
off, Joey is right, all right,

545
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,840
Joey. First off, my condolences
feel loss. I know it was

546
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:59,039
probably a while ago, but my
mom passed away twenty years ago and she

547
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,119
was on I would say at least
more than a dozen medications from anything from

548
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,920
diabetes to liver failure or kidney failure, just a whole bunch of stuff like

549
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:15,800
that. I want to ask your
opinion in regards to over medicating and doctors

550
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,519
over medicating patients. Do you feel
that's an issue going on where they're just

551
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:23,920
offering drugs to counter the effects of
other drugs and other stuff like that,

552
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:29,159
or do you think that you know
where you know that there's nothing really going

553
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:32,280
on like that. Yeah, I
mean, I I let me put it

554
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,079
this way. I haven't really heard
a lot from people who are who are

555
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:42,239
experiencing that. Right, it's not
something that I necessarily am aware of with

556
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,840
my constituents coming and talking to me
about it or anything like that. That's

557
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,400
not to say that I don't think
it's an issue. I'm just saying that,

558
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,440
you know, as far as people
reaching out to me particularly, it's

559
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,920
not something that I've necessarily heard in
Keen or in Chester County or something like

560
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,239
that, but I understand that it
does happen. I would argue that actually,

561
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,320
doctors are less inclined to over medicate
in this day and age because they've

562
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,960
been under threat of arrest not just
from federal agencies but also state agencies in

563
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:15,800
previous legislation. So doctors, especially
when it comes to older folks, want

564
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:22,679
to keep that person comfortable, not
in pain, able to breathe without having

565
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:28,719
to struggle with it. And sometimes
those medications can look like it's a lot,

566
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,639
but it really isn't. You're not
they're not knocking them down. They're

567
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,360
they're lessening their pain, They're making
it easier for them to breathe, They're

568
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,599
making it easier for them to be
comfortable. That's the object that's the main

569
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:45,639
goal is to keep that person comfortable
and conscious and alert with their family for

570
00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:50,880
as long as humanly possible. When
when end of life occurs, the medications

571
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,960
that are given then they're certainly not
to knock the person out and not have

572
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:59,239
them accessible to their family, but
to ease their suffering and to help them

573
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,480
have a you know, have care
with dignity. Well, it's a great,

574
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:08,519
great question, not Charles anything to
add. Yeah, on top of

575
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:13,079
that too, kind of like the
opinion, Like every other commercial we see

576
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,480
on TV, it's about a brand
new drug with like seven thousand side effects?

577
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:22,679
Do do do you consider that?
I mean to me personally, I

578
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,719
get that there's benefits of these drugs, and you know they're not just going

579
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,800
out there and advertising something illegal.
But I just feel like it's like the

580
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,039
last thing you hear on these things
is why don't you ask your doctor about

581
00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:37,880
this? And there was some there
was a comedian that made a point this

582
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,239
is like, you know there's a
new drug. Do you go to sleep

583
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,280
at night and wake up in the
morning, Well, there's a drug for

584
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,920
you? Like, is it getting
too crazy out there where I personally think

585
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,360
they should be illegal if I had
my brothers, I wouldn't allow drugs to

586
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,039
advertise. No, they don't do
that in other country. No, they

587
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,840
don't. They don't know it is
I mean it's no, it's of course

588
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,039
it should. I mean it's just
crazy to be marketing. I'm in the

589
00:38:05,039 --> 00:38:09,519
middle of Amsterdam. Guess what.
I didn't see drug ads anywhere ever,

590
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,599
like, and people think of that
as a place where there's and it really

591
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,280
isn't it really isn't. Yeah,
I honestly and truly believe that these pharmaceutical

592
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,960
companies being allowed to market to people
the way that they do, they make

593
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,559
them nervous, They make them scared, They terrify them from taking a medication

594
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:30,880
that could truly save their lives or
help them. If I had my choice,

595
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:34,239
I would make it one hundred percent
illegal for these companies to be able

596
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,639
to do the advertising crap that they
do that causes more harm than it could

597
00:38:38,639 --> 00:38:45,239
ever cause in good and healthcare.
Are all right, guys, that's all

598
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,320
I have. Thank you, all
right, Charles. We appreciate the call.

599
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:51,119
Thank you absolutely good. Topics all
right, that opens up the line

600
00:38:51,159 --> 00:38:53,840
for you. Six zo three two
five six seven six zo three two five

601
00:38:54,039 --> 00:38:58,199
six zero seven it's gonna hear from
Charles because now we have proof of life

602
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,679
that he did. In fact us
survived last hurricane flooding. Yeah. Yeah,

603
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,639
Florida's got issues, Yes, big
issues. Usheating bacteria up on the

604
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:12,880
shore, lepers, Yeah, we
have a leprosy outwork have not been spread

605
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,559
by the mosquitoes. I'm not making
this out. I guess there must be

606
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:24,000
so much of a stench down there
that No'm only kiddingly kidding. Nick Murdoch

607
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:27,679
said in the chat room. As
I understand it, the side effects given

608
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,159
are anything anybody reports during the testing
phase, so that's percent true. So

609
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:34,480
if somebody has a headache, it
goes down as a side effect, even

610
00:39:34,519 --> 00:39:37,719
if the headache was caused by something
else than the medication. That said,

611
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:45,880
yes absolutely drug commercials sepsis pointed out
in the chat room too. I think

612
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,840
this is regarding the marketing of those
drubs. They find a weakness and market

613
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:52,480
it. But that's the American way. Everyone and everything is a market.

614
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,880
Or create a weakness, you know
what I mean, like, or create

615
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,800
the perception that something is wrong.
You know, worst part about it,

616
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,760
Oh that's something you know, make
you feel self self conscious about something or

617
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000
make you feel like you were deficient
in some way. You don't need their

618
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:15,000
products with medicine. Yeah, yeah, have you noticed baggy eyes? Have

619
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:19,400
you made freaking trips? I'm getting
to that age now, all of you

620
00:40:19,639 --> 00:40:25,559
algorythms that I'm I'm getting drunk.
Seriously, our culture is terrible when I'm

621
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:36,320
telling you healthcare. No, our
friend Ron is back on the line.

622
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,039
Hi, Ron, Hi, I
just got one question and I'll take the

623
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:45,599
answer off the year. Yes,
how did Florida slip through the cracks with

624
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:50,000
the the pharmacies if you just told
them, yeah, I got a bad

625
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:54,320
back. You know, they were
they were distributing hey jellus, and it

626
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,719
took forever to crack down, and
and I think you know it's under control

627
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,199
now. But I mean, how
did they slip through the cracks? It

628
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,519
was just almost I don't think they
would be slipping through the cracks. I

629
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:08,159
think it was a listen. Yeah, no, you know, I'll let

630
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,679
it go and I'll just listen,
all right, Thanks, Ron, appreciate

631
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,360
the call. Well, if that
would happen anywhere, it would be Florida.

632
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,559
Oh yeah, no kidding. I'm
trying to see if I can find

633
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:20,760
an article on what he was saying. Yeah, I mean some states are

634
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,400
going to have stricter laws than others, but of course has federal laws on

635
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,679
all of this, right, I
mean, Okay, so there's an agreement

636
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,840
with CVS Walgreens in Walmart. I
wonder if this is part of what he

637
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,400
was talking about. Are the first
multi state settlements to hold chain pharmacies a

638
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,360
carnival for their failure to intervene in
prescription abuse and drug diversion. In other

639
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:45,960
words, they'd hand out any prescription. So then so so what that's probably

640
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,039
what he's talking about, I bet. And the something to that is that

641
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,480
that pharmacists were not conferring with the
doctor that the prescription was accurate. And

642
00:41:54,519 --> 00:42:00,159
now write aid this is it is
so sting at the whole thing, so

643
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,480
now write it. What they do
is they will change their headquarters to a

644
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,280
place where they have a sympathetic judge
or judges in somebody's pocket or whatever.

645
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:12,519
They will go to that place Texas
apparently that's where it is, So they

646
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:16,880
will put their headquarters there and then
they will claim bankruptcy. I'm sure there's

647
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,840
much more detail than I'm leaving out
of this. Very basically they'll declare bankruptcy.

648
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,840
And then once they're bankrupt, then
they have less money to be part

649
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:29,079
of this, to be part of
the settlement. Right then they're claiming less

650
00:42:29,079 --> 00:42:31,519
money. And that's what's happening with
wright AID right now. So a lot

651
00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:35,360
of these have already settled, a
lot of these the chains have already settled.

652
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:37,800
But now I just saw that like
two days ago or something like that.

653
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,119
Right AID is trying to get away
with it so that they won't have

654
00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:43,880
to, Oh, okay, contribute
enough as much money to the abatement.

655
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:46,760
Okay, I have to read this
comment on Nick Murdock and the chat says,

656
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:51,679
although drug commercials have given us some
awesome ads, like a group of

657
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,000
men driving out to a secluded location
to hang out together and sing about how

658
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,360
much they love viagra, I think
i've seen that at I know what I

659
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:05,519
need to find one. There is
there that it might be. It's a's

660
00:43:05,559 --> 00:43:07,119
it could be an actual ad though
I've seen, you know, on cable

661
00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:10,639
news late at night they have some
there. There was one I saw once

662
00:43:10,679 --> 00:43:15,880
and I I think I remember what
the medication was, but I'm not gonna

663
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,599
say it because I'm not sure.
But you know, I It kind of

664
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:22,280
got my attention because so I struggle
with depression. I don't take any medication

665
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:29,159
for it, but but I do
remember seeing an ad once for depression and

666
00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:31,679
when it got to the part of
the end where it lists of side effects,

667
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,639
one of the side effects was may
cause suicidal ideations. Yeah, and

668
00:43:36,679 --> 00:43:38,679
that really jumped out of me because
I'm thinking, well, if if I

669
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,760
am to go on something, I
think the idea is to, you know,

670
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,960
try to keep myself from killing myself. And one of this side effects

671
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,679
of this medication is it might make
me kill myself. And that really just

672
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,679
kind of struck me as well.
It didn't turn me onto the idea of

673
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,519
going on a medication for it,
that's for sure. It's like, oh,

674
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,360
there's something that can go wrong there. So now, are you hopeful

675
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,000
that we're ever going to get to
full legalization on cannabis in New Hampshire because

676
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,840
it is embarrassing right We're surrounded by
states and Canada where it's fully legal,

677
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,400
but in the Liffrey or Die State, we just can't seem to get there.

678
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,239
You're here. I voted for every
cannabis legalization, I even co sponsored

679
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,760
one. It wasn't the one that
I even wanted to pass at the end

680
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,159
of the day, but but it
was one. So what we have right

681
00:44:23,159 --> 00:44:29,719
now is they came up with a
commission. There's commissions and committees, and

682
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,599
I always get them mixed up.
That came up with a commission, I

683
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:37,880
think it is for it's the Commerce
Committee, part of the Commerce Committee,

684
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,119
and this is about cannabis legalization.
So last year we passed man, I

685
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:47,280
want to say, two or three
bills we passed them, including the outright

686
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,119
legalization for anybody over eighteen. I
was very happy I got to do the

687
00:44:51,159 --> 00:44:53,519
floor speech for that. Lick it
up. It was fun anyway, and

688
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:57,400
and even the majority of the House
passed that. But then it gets to

689
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,320
the Senate. Yep, that's where
it always gets on ye and it goes

690
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,920
down in the center, even when
it was a Democratic majority. That's what

691
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,639
blows my mind. Yeah, you
know, but I mean it's not now,

692
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,280
but I remember a few years ago
and it was a Democratic majority and

693
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,159
it's still that voted down. I'm
like, oh, guys, what are

694
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:14,679
we doing anyway, So they put
together this this commission so that they're going

695
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,000
to go through things with fine toothcomb. I think that that's starting up this

696
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,679
this week. It might be next
week. I got the you know,

697
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,039
I get the notices for it because
I did sign on to that other legalizlation

698
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:29,719
bill. But and then what they're
coming out with this is it's basically bounded

699
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,760
determined to pass it next year.
So the the idea is to come up

700
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:37,079
with some type of solution that is
compromised that everybody can get on board with

701
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,159
and so that we can legalize next
end. Now when in what form that

702
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:46,920
comes out, I don't necessarily know. It sounds to me like like there's

703
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:52,159
very slim chances that homegrow is going
to be included in that. Okay,

704
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,800
that's one thing I'm a little bit
disappointed about. It sounds like it's going

705
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,360
to go through the state liquor stores, state liquor Commission. Yeah, it's

706
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,880
gonna be added in in that way, isn't Isn't that what's the new news

707
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,679
said? Because he's changed his mind
on this right to the extent that he

708
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,039
said he is for the first time
I think recently, didn't he say he

709
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:15,760
actually is willing to sign something in
terms of legalization. But that's the thing.

710
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,559
If it goes through the liquor Commission. Is that the condition? Yeah,

711
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,400
yeah, they want it sold out
of the liquor stores. Yeah,

712
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:28,960
yeah, yeah, well, I
mean it's it's something it's well you can

713
00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:32,280
remember, yes, Well, now
the Liquor Commission is the olden goose of

714
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,840
New Hampshire. You can't. They
need to make as much money as they

715
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,800
possibly can make. Yeah, they're
the most profitable industry in this state.

716
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:46,880
Yep mm hmmmmmm. Well yeah,
always be a controlled state. I don't

717
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,639
think that'll ever end, because it's
not even I mean, legalization isn't even

718
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:57,880
uh that politically risky anymore, right, because I think recent polling data shows

719
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,360
a majority of Republicans at this point
support legalization or at the very or at

720
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:06,400
the very least decriminalization. I mean, even even some except the people that

721
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,840
stand to lose profit. Now well
yeah, yeah, no, I know,

722
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:12,719
but but I'm just talking. I'm
just talking politically. Even very conservative

723
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,280
people at this point, if you
say, should we really be putting prison

724
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,960
and people for pot, They'll say, well, no, not really,

725
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:25,000
we probably shouldn't. I'm just saying
I have gotten some u there are groups,

726
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:31,880
there are individuals who definitely are out
there advocating that there are harmful effects

727
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,199
to cannabis, and and that you
know, criminalization is you know, I'm

728
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,639
sorry that legalization would be detrimental and
these kind of things or whatever. So

729
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:44,320
there are people who are fighting against
it. It's a very small minority minority.

730
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,840
They don't have a lot of data
to use to prove their point because

731
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:50,239
you look at every state that's legal
and that didn't happen. Yeah, well,

732
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,039
the exact mongering doesn't happen in these
other states. Exactly. The links,

733
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:58,360
Guys, when somebody puts the citations
in it, click the links and

734
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,519
actually read their research, the report
that it is, the study that it

735
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:06,400
is. Because once you actually it
just not even dig below the surface.

736
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Just click on the link and read
the study, you know, and it's

737
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,199
very interesting. These things fall apart
pretty quick. Well, when somebody tells

738
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,920
me too, they oppose it because
when they, you know, bring that

739
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:22,519
argument that it's it can be harmful
and whatnot, you know, it's sort

740
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:25,679
of to me they're coming at it
from a position that pre supposes that once

741
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:30,320
you legalize it, you're going to
dramatically increase the number of people who are

742
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:35,960
doing it, which I find absurd. I mean, I can tell you

743
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,440
when I was in high school.
You know, I never I never smoked

744
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,400
it, but my friends who did, you know, none of them were.

745
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,920
Well, let me put it this
way, I didn't know anybody who

746
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:51,679
wanted to but wasn't because they were
worried because it was illegal. Well i'd,

747
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,920
yeah, i'd, i'd, i'd
smoke with my friends, but it's

748
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:58,519
illegal, you know, like nobody, nobody thinks about it that way in

749
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:04,360
those terms. So I don't.
And I have heard people say that way

750
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:08,280
back when, because I think Massachusetts
was one of the first states to decriminalize

751
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,960
back in the day, and I
remember a lot of people saying that when

752
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,639
they of course, now it's fully
legal there, But when they decriminalized,

753
00:49:14,679 --> 00:49:20,079
I remember people observing that it was
sort of a de facto legalization because all

754
00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:22,639
of a sudden, when law enforcement, like in Boston, which is obviously

755
00:49:22,679 --> 00:49:29,599
a big college town in Boston,
when police could no longer arrest people for

756
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:34,239
it, but could only issue a
citation to them, it just became like,

757
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,880
just why I haven't bother So it
was sort of a de facto legalization

758
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,639
in a sense. And I suppose
that's probably the same here. But still

759
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:45,519
it would be nice to get the
criminal justice system out of that completely.

760
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:47,599
Well, I thought it was interesting. We lived out in California for a

761
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:52,000
little while, and you know,
we knew a lot of people who grew

762
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:58,400
and things like that. Yeah,
but in Oakland proper. So California had

763
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,639
been legal since nineteen ninety six,
I want to say, so for quite

764
00:50:01,639 --> 00:50:04,320
a long time. Well they were, they were the first day had to

765
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,039
go legal, right, Yeah.
And so one thing that I thought was

766
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:13,599
interesting it was still technically what was
it they decriminalize about it? It technically

767
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:17,119
wasn't you were supposed to have a
medical cannabis card. Did but you know,

768
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:20,480
you're supposed to have a cannabis card
and things like that, and so

769
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:24,679
they would have these uh. They
in Oakland City Council they actually passed a

770
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:30,519
measure that was to say that anything
cannabis related was the lowest possible priority.

771
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,360
I mean, passing a measure measure
just to make sure to say that,

772
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,519
like we have bigger fish to fry. I mean, yeah, Well,

773
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:40,519
I'm glad you brought that up too, because I've heard a lot of people

774
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:45,440
in law enforcements say that regardless of
how they feel about it personally, they

775
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:52,280
it would probably be a better allocation
of resources for law enforcement just generally if

776
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,079
they didn't have to waste their time, you know, if they find I

777
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:58,599
mean, obviously there's always discretion.
You don't just because you find somebody with

778
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,880
something that our elected lawgivers and overlords
as I like to call them have deemed

779
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,159
that they're not allowed to have.
It doesn't mean you have to arrest them.

780
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,280
You can just say, hey,
go home, don't do that out

781
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,360
in the open or whatever. But
but if they if there were not resources

782
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,320
devoted to that, that might be
even better because then law enforcement could work

783
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,519
on, you know, solving actual
crime like you know, murders and burglaries

784
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:23,400
and rapes and whatever else, instead
of having to chase down, uh,

785
00:51:23,599 --> 00:51:30,920
you know, people with cannabis.
So that's always been my my big arguments

786
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:36,639
in favor of legalization. We are
we are approaching the top of the hour.

787
00:51:37,559 --> 00:51:39,519
Jody, what what? What didn't
we talk about that you want to

788
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:43,760
make sure people know about and any
resources that you want people to know about

789
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,039
online websites and where they can find
you social media, any of that.

790
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,880
Yeah, well, you can find
a campaign page. It's a oh what

791
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,599
is it? Jody Newell for Keen
Jody k Newell for Keen. I like

792
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:55,800
to throw in the cake because I'm
named after my great aunt. She was

793
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,199
badass. But okay, yeah I
notice on Facebook or go to kan Yeah

794
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,480
yeah, I always throw it in
there. Yeah, But let me see

795
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:07,039
things that I really wanted to talk
about. What I'm really focused on right

796
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,440
now is we have the abatement funds, you know, and this is like,

797
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:12,840
you know, from these settlements that
are coming down, and so New

798
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,519
Hampshire and New Hampshire actually did a
really really great job before I was even

799
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:21,199
you know, in the legislature or
anything like that, setting establishing a commission

800
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:24,159
and you know, basically saying this
must be used for this and other states,

801
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:27,760
believe me, it's just kind of
like a free for all in other

802
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,599
states and other counties and municipalities.
Is there's different levels of how that comes

803
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:35,960
down. And so my big thing
right now is UH is really bringing people

804
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,199
who are directly affected to the table
into the conversation so that we actually do

805
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,239
the best thing that we possible,
the best that we possibly can and save

806
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,639
the most lives. Right now,
the commission is focused on recovery housing,

807
00:52:45,679 --> 00:52:50,280
which is something that we've been lacking
for such a long time to talk about

808
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:52,159
I mean, cull it sober houses, but I you know, I'm not

809
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,719
a big fan of that, of
that terminology, but recovery housing, and

810
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,360
we really need to increase access.
So right now the Abatement Commission is putting

811
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:07,760
out a request for grant applications for
recovery housing, you know, things where

812
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:12,599
we can where we can expand capacity. And I'm working on some things that

813
00:53:12,639 --> 00:53:20,039
I'm hoping can increase accessibility. So
they're trying to fund people to fund the

814
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:22,559
organizations that are putting, you know, starting a recovery house. And what

815
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:27,679
I'd really like to do is focus
on making it so that it is affordable

816
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:30,360
and people can actually get into those
houses. So once we have the capacity,

817
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:34,920
who can actually be there? You
know, so for example, Medicaid

818
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,079
covering it, you know what I
mean, I think that would be wonderful.

819
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:38,880
We're talking about a health issue.
We're trying to change the dynamic here.

820
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,480
We're trying to change the stigma.
We're trying to change the way that

821
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:45,320
we look at it. Why don't
we actually go full more? My mom

822
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,760
was just in the hospital. Who
was it? I'm blanking on the guy

823
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,400
who held in earlier. But the
guy who called in from Florida talking about

824
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:52,400
how its done a whole bunch of
things, right, yea, So it

825
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,320
is my mom. She's dealing with
it with a bunch of you know,

826
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,800
health issues and things like that.
She had a major stroke that happened when

827
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,239
she when she was in the hospital, she was ready to leave the hospital.

828
00:54:00,599 --> 00:54:05,400
She went to a rehabilitation facility.
She went to a place because she

829
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,679
wasn't able, she wasn't ready yet
to go home and you know, be

830
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:13,079
in a stable position and be you
know, recovered well enough from the stroke.

831
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,519
This is the same type of situation
as somebody who's dealing going through recovery.

832
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,960
Yeah, you can go to a
detox, you can go to a

833
00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:23,920
rehab You're a you're in a kind
of a bubble, right, You're not

834
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,360
really going out and doing everything you
need to have that other step, This

835
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,000
is the other step that people can
still be going out and living their lives,

836
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,000
still be going to works, to
have their family and all that kind

837
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:38,000
of stuff, still be kind of
in the community and transitioning to a fully

838
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:43,320
recovered state. So I think that
not only doesn't just make sense in the

839
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,360
broader span but it's reframing the issue
as one that is a health and this

840
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:51,280
is the continuum of care that we
need to include in that and of course

841
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,880
medicaid. Who should govern it because
at the end of the day, if

842
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:57,440
people can't afford to pay for it, and we do have wonderful programs,

843
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,320
we have the doorway. Well sometimes
give two weeks, grant for two weeks

844
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:04,239
for people to be able to be
in recovery housing. Two weeks is not

845
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,559
enough, right right, Yeah,
So I'm working on and I'm trying to

846
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:09,559
work on things from you know,
from the other end of the spectrum,

847
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:13,679
from the ground up. Excellent.
So anybody who wants to reach out to

848
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,639
me about that, that's what I'd
really really like to work on. So

849
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:20,119
if anybody's interested in that, please
reach out to me. You can find

850
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,159
my campaign page, like I said, Jody k Newell at uh Jody k

851
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,480
Newell for Keen. So you'll you'll
be running for re election obviously, Yeah,

852
00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:29,559
excellent, good, good for you. Good for you. By the

853
00:55:29,559 --> 00:55:31,159
way, Keen, do you do
you do you deal much with the free

854
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:36,079
staters out there? Hey my neighbors, you mean, yeah, you know

855
00:55:36,079 --> 00:55:37,079
what? I like them? Well, I like them, I don't agree

856
00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:39,239
on a lot of suf Well,
I was going to say, though there

857
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,400
is common there is there is common
ground there in terms of the war on

858
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,159
drugs. Oh yes, they actually
so, they put out a gold standard

859
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:49,280
and this is you know, as
you're coming in a variety of organizations that

860
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,719
are going to give you this,
this is how we want you to vote

861
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,360
on bills based on, you know, our perspective. If you agree with

862
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,800
us, these are the bills and
this is why. And you know it's

863
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,320
all all liberty, liberty minded,
you know, the liberty line. And

864
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,599
they actually supported, came in and
testified, and they put it on the

865
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:09,920
gold standard. For my I had
one bill that was decriminalizing fentanyl test trips.

866
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:14,119
At the end of the day,
what my bill originally was was to

867
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:21,800
was to decriminalize testing and analyzing equipment. Because yes, people like New Hampshire

868
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,679
Harm Reduction God Blessing, they'll go
out and mail hand out fentyl test trips

869
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:27,639
and things like that, and it's
legal for them to do so. But

870
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,039
if you, as an individual user
is carrying one of those, or just

871
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:32,960
a person who thinks that it's a
good idea to have that on them,

872
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:37,360
like naloxone or you know, something
like that. Even if I'm not using

873
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:38,559
I'm going to take it just in
case, dig with me, just in

874
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:42,679
case I can be helpful to somebody
else. Right, if you're stopped with

875
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,719
that, that can be that can
be held against you, No kidding,

876
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:51,840
federally state or now not anymore.
The governor actually signed off on it.

877
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:57,119
Now, what I originally said was
testing and analyzing, removing testing and analyzing.

878
00:56:57,199 --> 00:56:59,719
What the compromise ended up being in
the Senate and all that kind of

879
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:05,400
stuff was just taking fentanel test trips
and now xylazine test trips, which fortunately

880
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,920
had just come out, was decriminalizing
those. So okay, we got a

881
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,239
little bit, we got a little
bit of what it was a bare minimum

882
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,280
in the first place. But we
also have another bill that's coming up that's

883
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,000
more comprehensive, and I'm I'm going
to be on the sun Committee for that,

884
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:20,679
and I'm hoping that we can that
we can pass that as well.

885
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,000
Excellent. So yeah, so they
backed up my bill. Hey, hey,

886
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:28,119
plet to back up my bill sounds
absolutely absolutely wonderful. All right,

887
00:57:28,199 --> 00:57:30,159
Well, Jody, thank you and
Jenny, thank you for bringing in this

888
00:57:30,199 --> 00:57:34,480
wonderful guest. This is great.
Thanks for having me. Oh absolutely,

889
00:57:34,599 --> 00:57:43,159
Jody Kay Newell the absolutely, thank
you so much, and uh for those

890
00:57:43,199 --> 00:57:45,840
of you. For the rest of
you stick around, We've got Eric Pilter's

891
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,119
classic film review. We're going to
go to that right now with whoops and

892
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:52,079
something else is playing. I have
some other audio going here. Sorry,

893
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:57,239
uh, and this is uh the
nineteen seventy three film The Crazies, directed

894
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:04,000
by George George ar Ram George A. Romero. I can remember, and

895
00:58:04,039 --> 00:58:06,679
then Jenny and I'll be back after
this. Don't go away. Plenty more

896
00:58:06,679 --> 00:58:10,159
to come. We never thought it
would happen. Nobody gets in or out

897
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:15,159
of that town? Is that clear? The girls just died. How do

898
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:17,519
you intend to let the people know
about all this? We were asleep.

899
00:58:19,039 --> 00:58:22,320
They dragged us right out of the
house. Are we under martial law?

900
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:24,760
They'll talk to me or anybody else
to list you get a voice print check.

901
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:30,639
Oh knows Proclusen town. Nobody knows
what's going on now. Look,

902
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:34,079
you just can't push us around this
way. We've got to get a nuclear

903
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:37,599
weapon in the air above that town. But what the hell's going on?

904
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,079
Share? You know what I new
boy let's go Hi, taking me new

905
00:58:40,159 --> 00:58:52,639
push. Oh man, they started
something they can't stop about crazy. There's

906
00:58:52,639 --> 00:59:04,079
something that comments, something that inclames, something that brugal. It's madness unleashed

907
00:59:04,079 --> 00:59:15,760
by human error, the crazy.
Can they tame it before time runs out?

908
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:20,159
I'm a key man on the Christian
team, a key man. I'm

909
00:59:20,159 --> 00:59:22,840
one of the developers of that goddamn
thing. Now, if you want me

910
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,000
to get the job done, you
get me the stuff I needed. You

911
00:59:24,039 --> 00:59:30,159
get the hell a m before the
morning over, a small town becomes a

912
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:37,039
giant stock aide. Evans City must
be contained or leveled. We're of concerned

913
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:39,840
with Evans City, mister hawks.
If we have to push the button,

914
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:52,440
we just say the weapon went off. Get me the President. Three thousand,

915
00:59:52,599 --> 01:00:00,639
six hundred and fourteen people are trapped
by an unknown enemy. Five are

916
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:08,239
on the run. Can they escape
the spreading fury of the crazies? You

917
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:21,119
can make it. I know it. They're coming, David, David,

918
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:22,960
They're coming to move. We've gotta
get out of your pieces. Man,

919
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:30,039
didn't I want a weaponster So the
entire time, this is exactly the kind

920
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:38,960
of thing with trying to prevent a
lethal terror. Snowballs into hell either madness

921
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:59,320
runs repons we'll dope it out soon
earlier, so Earl really the crazy.

922
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:06,719
It is my belief for horror films
to succeed in scaring the viewer, the

923
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:13,440
evil or villain must be something born
out of a real fear. This week's

924
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:22,239
film combines many multiple fears that we
all have biochemical weapons, a major sickness

925
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:31,760
in the government overreaching in declaring martial
law. In our first film honoring George

926
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:38,400
A. Romero this month, The
Crazies was released in nineteen seventy three.

927
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:46,320
This film takes us to Evans City, Pennsylvania, where a government developed biochemical

928
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:55,599
weapon codenamed Tricksy has contaminated the town's
water supply following an accident. This causes

929
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:04,880
those infected with the virus to become
crazed maniacs before dying. Our first two

930
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,920
scenes will explain the power of the
weapon. First, one of the chief

931
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:15,519
developers of Trixie, doctor Watts,
played by Richard French, explains what Trixy

932
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:22,079
does to its victims and how dangerous
it is. Then we hear fighting between

933
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:29,559
two members of the National Guard that
have been sent to quarantine this small town.

934
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:35,719
Major Writer and Colonel Peckham. They
are arguing over what action to take

935
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:42,159
in the town. These two scenes
develop the danger that Trixie is and also

936
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,440
show us a major thread in most
of George A. Romero's films, that

937
01:02:46,639 --> 01:02:54,559
is the struggle for control in catistrophic
circumstances. That is not evident in just

938
01:02:54,800 --> 01:03:01,000
these two clips, but it is
evident throughout the entire film. We don't

939
01:03:01,039 --> 01:03:06,760
have to worry about its being spread
by the dog circats or sort of a

940
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,159
consolation that may be to you,
that's there any that monkeys hereabouts? The

941
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:14,719
only ones infect it will be human
beings if we catch it in the early

942
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:16,960
stages. Can it be reversed?
Oh? We searched for amount of the

943
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:22,159
other three years that project was an
existence, doctor, No, guys,

944
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:27,199
how many virgin or e Sorry,
don't you know? Underforment? Doctor?

945
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,199
Watch you have a call in the
commanders. Yet they told me I could

946
01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:31,320
use the radio on the plane,
but it wasn't played through you. What

947
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:35,079
are you calling you? You're all
in a network using the ultimates to avoid

948
01:03:35,119 --> 01:03:37,440
any chance of the leap by precious
security. Keep it under wraps it all

949
01:03:37,519 --> 01:03:40,559
costs. Meanwhile, do you realize
the blunder that's been made. We can

950
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:44,880
have you flown back as those who
run a complete medcheck and get a clearance

951
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,079
from bussing. That's get started.
If you don't have all our equipmenting,

952
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,280
Beautiful, I'm unlife as soon as
possed appropriately vague, Colonel, Look,

953
01:03:54,119 --> 01:04:00,760
it's your fake boys who created this
thing in the press, Beautiful. I'm

954
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,239
one of the only chances we have. I can't get back to a lab

955
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,000
because you're not equipped to run a
medical check, which we wouldn't eat in

956
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,599
the first place. I hadn't have
packed up here. The whole operation is

957
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,239
one fat blunder. You talk about
blunders. According to the report from your

958
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:17,719
team, the virus was considered an
active said, yes, that's the important

959
01:04:17,719 --> 01:04:20,920
word. Any man on a team
of lady that means ninety nine percent.

960
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:26,840
Maybe that's a standard we don't set, Colonel, that's set by them military.

961
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,159
We're not getting anywhere. Triangle assign
Blake and authorizes me back to the

962
01:04:30,239 --> 01:04:32,800
lab. I can't take a chance
on breaking the perimeter with somebody that might

963
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:38,840
be a carrier. Trixie's been in
these waters for six days. Some truck

964
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,800
driver could have taken it out of
here long before you set up that perime.

965
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,800
Well, we're going to the assumption
we've got it container, and then

966
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,920
we want to keep it contain until
it runs its course. Its course.

967
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:48,360
You said it can't stay active in
the annultra violet. Yes, it's in

968
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:53,360
the water man run in the ground. And it's obviously people too. People

969
01:04:53,519 --> 01:04:58,119
are vectors. They carry it about
with them unawares the incubation TOI. You

970
01:04:58,199 --> 01:05:01,400
may vary, colonel, but about
them, a trixie is gonna spread throughout

971
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:06,480
this entire town. The town is
sealed off. Oh incredible. Look.

972
01:05:08,119 --> 01:05:12,639
Shortly before the funds ran off,
two of my technicians caught this bug from

973
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:16,480
Maurice's monkey. One of them was
delirious for two days before he finally died.

974
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:24,159
The other phased in and out until
he finally went hopelessly mad. Those

975
01:05:24,199 --> 01:05:27,239
are the two ultimate effects of this
thing. It's not just gonna run its

976
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,719
course and be forgotten. How the
hell are you guys gonna explain away a

977
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:36,039
pound it's either wiped out or reduced
to mindlessness. What is this another piece

978
01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:40,159
of information they've got to pass on
you guys. Oh, gentlemen, we're

979
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:44,039
not dealing with a flu virus here. We're dealing with an often lethal,

980
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:53,760
always debilitating, and syphletic mutation leaves
its victims either dead. I'm curably mad

981
01:05:54,679 --> 01:06:08,119
you got that in now fighting between
Colonel Peckham in Major Watts. Yeah.

982
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:12,159
I want to set up a second
perimeter and the inside line will continue the

983
01:06:12,239 --> 01:06:15,760
moving towards the downtown area, bringing
everything they find with them. I want

984
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,639
the second perimeter two miles inside the
first. There's too much speciould be called

985
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:23,800
a no man's land. Nothing can
stay on it, no one can cross

986
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,880
it. Talking about an awful lot
of evenstor Well, we'll just have to

987
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,199
get them in here. What do
we have now? I've company? Why

988
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:30,199
did this get down to the last
minute? These the plumbert you have been

989
01:06:30,239 --> 01:06:33,320
raid them over here? The initial
information was that the vaccine was harmless.

990
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,559
Do you mean they didn't take any
precautionary action routing procedure? I got here

991
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:45,320
the day of the crash, playing
went down in these hills above the town.

992
01:06:45,639 --> 01:06:48,519
Investigators reported that the casings wound up
in the river. Apparently the water

993
01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:54,679
flows through an underground reservoir, and
Evans City is applied with artesian systems out

994
01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:58,559
of that. So I stayed in
town or fire. The police and the

995
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:01,599
town doctor to be on the alert
for a high fever sentence of delirium.

996
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:06,960
Sir. The report was that the
Trixie team had deactivated the baser. Trixie

997
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,519
wasn't developed as a vaccine. Trixie
was developed as a bacteriological weapon. I

998
01:07:13,679 --> 01:07:17,119
spoke Colm Central, calling Colonel Peckham
Colm Central. Colonel peckis specam, Yes,

999
01:07:17,159 --> 01:07:20,440
sir, we have completed your voiceprint
check weekend. Let you speak black

1000
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:24,280
cock one whom when we knew the
black og was to avoid embarrassment, but

1001
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:30,159
a bio weather never occurred to me. I felt for that storybook line and

1002
01:07:30,239 --> 01:07:36,559
sinker that was the idea matter.
Colonel Peckham an any's first name Christopher Chris

1003
01:07:36,679 --> 01:07:40,599
Chris, Uh, this is Brubaker, Chris. Glad you're there, major

1004
01:07:40,639 --> 01:07:44,239
writers. A competent man and a
good officer. But I get the feeling

1005
01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:47,079
he's hitting the panic but a little
too prematurely, mister Brewbak. I wanted

1006
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:51,480
to real evaluate, mister Brubek.
I really like out there, mister Browbaker.

1007
01:07:51,599 --> 01:07:55,039
I running out of time now.
If you want me to get the

1008
01:07:55,119 --> 01:07:56,920
job done, you get me the
stuff I need, and you get it

1009
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:04,280
back Ellenay Boy in the morning sopa
where. What made Romero not just a

1010
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:15,719
horror film maestro but a film directoral
maestro is his ability to show the darkness

1011
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:20,720
of humanity amongst chaos. While viewing
this film, I found it to be

1012
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:28,600
rife with disturbing cinematography. The opening
scene is a man that, while being

1013
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,479
crazed, burns down his home with
no provocation, with his children preparing for

1014
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,840
bed. The residents turn on each
other, with it being unknown if it

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01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:44,479
is due to the virus or fear. That is one way out of many

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01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:49,199
that Romero is truly one of the
greatest. These last two clips show that

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01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:57,880
darkness and chaos. First, we
hear the struggle between the town and National

1018
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:03,640
Guard when the mayor confronts Peckham right
before martial laws declared. Then, once

1019
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:09,680
martial laws declared, the town people
are gathered up by force. What makes

1020
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:14,960
this scene harrowing is the fact that
you can hear the fear and confusion of

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01:09:15,039 --> 01:09:20,680
the townspeople. Another trick is the
ones gathering the people, their voices are

1022
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:28,880
muddled. This was intentionally done by
Romero to show the confusion the government throws

1023
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:34,880
at its people during times of unmitigated
chaos. Now you listen to me.

1024
01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:39,000
Rider Buck's been telling me what's going
on here tonight. Well, I don't

1025
01:09:39,039 --> 01:09:41,399
mind telling you that I might be
done. I'm pushed around like this,

1026
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:45,920
or I know. We just had
no way of preparing anybody. It's got

1027
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,239
a snowball on us and we were
forced to take action. Now you said

1028
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:51,239
it would never come to this.
Look, we've cooperated with you. We've

1029
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:55,720
attempted to keep this thing quiet in
order not to create a panic. But

1030
01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:01,000
Chris Wing never expected this. Neither
did we s we're trying to get everyone

1031
01:10:01,039 --> 01:10:05,079
into the high school, setting up
an Intermary. There are we under martial

1032
01:10:05,159 --> 01:10:09,079
law? Yes, sir, well, let me tell you something. You

1033
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:12,039
just can't walk all over the people
of Evan City that easy, Major,

1034
01:10:12,119 --> 01:10:15,520
and as mayor of this town,
I'm protesting your action. In fact,

1035
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,880
I'd like to speak to somebody higher
up, an attorney. Sir. We

1036
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,279
can't let the mean. I don't
know how long this quarantine will be in

1037
01:10:23,319 --> 01:10:26,880
affair. I'm talking about the lives
of listeners into this city. We're also

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01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,399
talking about the lives of many of
our own men. Sir, Well,

1039
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:32,479
you're men or you're were we started
the people of this town and live major

1040
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,359
inst major riity with cal Peckham.
I'll take help me service, sir.

1041
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,680
At the Interstate Highway, one of
the trucks flew up with massive filters.

1042
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,039
They have a line of men hurt
any civilian casual three night, sir.

1043
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:45,159
Now you just listen to me,
mister. In addition to being mayor of

1044
01:10:45,159 --> 01:10:48,680
this town, I also happened to
be a practicing attorney, and I know

1045
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,720
the rights of civil laws. Shut
and I want a weaponsters for the entire

1046
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:56,439
town. Yes, that stares included. Confiscate everything. Hold on just a

1047
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,239
minute. I'm demanding a rid of
habeus car sirff. I've got to take

1048
01:10:59,279 --> 01:11:03,640
your weapons now, you just hold
off. Don't you get them to him?

1049
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,439
You don't have to give them to
him. Look, you just can't

1050
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:12,079
push us around this way, don't
you do it? Fu me. Finally

1051
01:11:13,039 --> 01:11:25,279
martial law takes over the town.
I'm gonna listen up, listen up,

1052
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:29,680
twison up. Quarantine, you'll go
all under martial law. Will take that

1053
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,720
all over the high school. We'll
explain it to you over there, explain

1054
01:11:31,760 --> 01:12:15,079
it to you over hey. Hey, fine, aren't there, aren't you

1055
01:12:23,279 --> 01:12:25,640
tell me what this is all about
maybe on the walk, break with you?

1056
01:12:26,359 --> 01:12:29,239
What do we want? Work out? Please tell me what they're doing?

1057
01:12:29,359 --> 01:12:39,560
Crazy play? How do you tell
Mary? But where are we going?

1058
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:54,399
What do I I got? What's
cool? Young? What's time?

1059
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:15,720
A question that you might be asking
is why did I choose this film first?

1060
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:21,600
Well? I felt this film takes
all the elements that George A.

1061
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:29,640
Romero does an exemplary Java, showing
people fighting against government control, the unraveling

1062
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,239
of humanity amongst chaos, in the
battle between science and control by force.

1063
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:41,359
They are all here and presented in
a manner that leaves its impression on a

1064
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,119
viewer for all time. I wish
I could tell you that this film was

1065
01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:51,159
a major success, that it won
awards, that people fawned over it.

1066
01:13:53,399 --> 01:13:59,319
It didn't happen. This film was
a box office disaster. It was released

1067
01:13:59,399 --> 01:14:03,920
between Marrow's zombie masterpieces, which we
will cover later this month, Night of

1068
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:09,880
the Living Dead and Dawn of the
Dead. Note there were also two other

1069
01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:14,520
films, There Will Always Be Vanilla
and the Season of the Witch. We're

1070
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:21,039
also released in between those two heavily
favored films. Since being a meteoric box

1071
01:14:21,159 --> 01:14:26,479
office failure, much like many of
Romero's other films. It has gained a

1072
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:32,760
major cult following and an appreciation amongst
not just horror fans, but cinophiles in

1073
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:40,680
general. It even received a remake
in two thousand and nine given the pandemic

1074
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:45,439
that the country has endured with COVID. This film digs at the scars of

1075
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:49,279
those memories, but that should not
drive you away from viewing this film,

1076
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:54,960
because, after all, that is
what horror is for, to have our

1077
01:14:55,119 --> 01:15:01,359
darkest fears in memories be realized and
come to the surface. I hope you

1078
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,319
joined me next week when we will
continue our month long tribute to George A.

1079
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:14,119
Romero when we look at Him and
Stephen King joining forces for the nineteen

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01:15:14,319 --> 01:15:21,760
eighty two anthology film Creep Show for
WMNH and Matt Connerton Unleashed. This has

1081
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:45,920
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WMNH rip the Novels. I don't
do the drugs, so I've got no

1103
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:59,359
friends to WHOA. I don't get
invited to any parties of women ignore me.

1104
01:18:00,119 --> 01:18:09,640
I don't even have a real job. Yeah. I've heard some people

1105
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,520
say drugs are cool, but they
are wrong. Some of them are dead

1106
01:18:13,600 --> 01:19:01,760
wrong. W n n h rip
the Novels. Welcome back everybody, as

1107
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:06,600
we are well in our number two
New Merrow dose of Matt Connerton Unleashed and

1108
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:12,159
we are live from the studios of
wm n H ninety five point three FM

1109
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:16,720
and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast Channel six if you're

1110
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:20,079
in Manchester, and hello to all
of our online listeners across the nation and

1111
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:24,439
around the globe. You can go
to my website Matt Connerton dot com for

1112
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,560
all of your live streaming options.
Social media links contact in Folk Show Archives,

1113
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,800
et cetera, et cetera. Today
is Tuesday, September five, two

1114
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:36,079
thousand twenty three. Genius here at
the news desk, present and accounted for.

1115
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:42,720
And that that ad I played from
rat Rockers Against Drugs. Care to

1116
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:46,760
guess what year that's from? Nineteen
eighty eight? Oh, you're close,

1117
01:19:47,319 --> 01:19:53,279
nineteen eighty six. Oh, yes, that was pretty good of me.

1118
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:58,239
That was the the Paul Stanley Rockers
Against Drugs, and Gene Simmons did one

1119
01:19:58,279 --> 01:20:00,880
as well. I'm going to hear
the Jeans one. Go for it.

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:08,399
Truths are great. Drugs make me
strong, Drugs making me smart, Drugs

1121
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:15,600
make me feel good, Drugs make
me cool. Do you believe that crap?

1122
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,199
H? Do you believe all that
stuff they're handing you about drugs?

1123
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:25,680
You want to believe in something?
How about yourself? Don't do drugs.

1124
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,520
That's the Gene Simmons one, also
from nineteen eighty six. I like the

1125
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:32,680
little space noise at the end there, like yeah, like a UFO was

1126
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,600
taken off with them. Yeah,
the Rockers Against Drugs. Think you gotta

1127
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:39,399
see the Gene Simmons one. They're
both on YouTube. The Gene one is

1128
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,359
he's worrying. He's got a mask
on his face, and then he rips

1129
01:20:43,399 --> 01:20:45,520
the mask off and says, do
you believe that crap? It's really really

1130
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,840
good. They're legit too, both, you know, they're you know because

1131
01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,840
sometimes no, yeah, no,
I know because sometimes some of those uh

1132
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,760
those rock against rockers against drugs commercials
you would see in the eighties. Uh,

1133
01:20:57,079 --> 01:21:00,800
you know sometimes you know, like
like if I'm sure Rozzie did one,

1134
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,199
and you know it's like, yeah, okay, but no. But

1135
01:21:03,319 --> 01:21:09,239
Paul Stanley and Jean Simmons both very
uh Gene Simmons to the Stay claims he's

1136
01:21:09,279 --> 01:21:13,239
never even had a sip of alcohol, let alone partaken in any drugs,

1137
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,760
and Paul Stanley apparently occasionally we'll drink
wine, but he's never done any hard

1138
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,960
drugs either. Mike from Queen City
Cabinetry on the Facebook live chat is asking

1139
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:26,000
to Keith Richards do one. No, I don't think Keith ever did.

1140
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:31,000
We will outlive us all. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think

1141
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:34,239
Keith did one. Six zo three
two five zero six zero seven is the

1142
01:21:34,239 --> 01:21:38,239
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us six three two five oz six zero

1143
01:21:38,399 --> 01:21:41,960
seven. Also you can text us
at six one seven nine one seven four

1144
01:21:42,039 --> 01:21:45,680
four seven six. I'm on social
media at Matt Connerton. You can email

1145
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,640
me Matt at matt Connerton dot com, and of course you can interact end

1146
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,600
Opine in the Facebook live chat.
But the best thing to do so that

1147
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,399
we can hear and enjoy your dulcet
tones is to give us a call at

1148
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:59,319
six zo three two five ozho six
zero seven. Thank you are to our

1149
01:21:59,359 --> 01:22:02,840
friend Eric Pill from Cedar Rapids,
Iowa for another great classic film review.

1150
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:09,720
Today was nineteen seventy three's uh the
film the director George A. Romero,

1151
01:22:10,039 --> 01:22:14,119
The Crazies, And of course in
the first hour we were joined by the

1152
01:22:14,279 --> 01:22:19,039
honorable Representative Jody k Newell from from
Keene. She came and hung out and

1153
01:22:19,319 --> 01:22:24,479
we had a great discussion. Really
enjoyed that a lot. Now I'm confused

1154
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,239
about something though, So she was
there at the events you were out in

1155
01:22:28,359 --> 01:22:32,000
DC. But yes, but did
you did you not actually cross paths with

1156
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:35,199
earlier? We did cross paths that, oh you did at the convention?

1157
01:22:35,319 --> 01:22:39,199
Yet oh you did? Okay?
Yes? Is that we get to hang

1158
01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:42,680
out with our a lot because I
had to take a lot of downtime in

1159
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,720
my room, so I wasn't really
out there for the social events. Oh

1160
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,800
okay. I tried to go to
as many as the actual imperson events that

1161
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:55,279
I could go. Yeah, we
should. Uh. I'd like to catch

1162
01:22:55,359 --> 01:22:58,159
up on the Facebook live chat comments. And then I know you have a

1163
01:22:59,239 --> 01:23:01,760
an update on your insurance. But
let's grab this first. We do have

1164
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:06,439
a call. Hi, Welcome to
Matt Connerton Unleashed. Who's this Hi?

1165
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,640
This is Tom Sailor. Here is
a question about the legalization of marijuana in

1166
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:16,760
our state? Yes, Tom,
who? Sorry? What's your name again,

1167
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,840
Sir Tom Sailor? Tom Sailor?
Okay, Yes, what's your question?

1168
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:29,319
Do you know what the current state
of the affairs of the in our

1169
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:34,039
in our state as far as the
legalization of marijuana, Well, the current

1170
01:23:34,079 --> 01:23:38,439
state of it is there is no
legalization, but we have decriminalization. It's

1171
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:43,720
stalled. Yea stalled as usual in
conquered it never passes. It usually passes

1172
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,600
the House, right, but then
it but then it dies in the Senate.

1173
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,960
Oh no, we've gotten it passed
before and then it gets Vito and

1174
01:23:49,039 --> 01:23:51,960
then the Senate will never override a
veto, right, I mean they've they've

1175
01:23:53,039 --> 01:23:56,680
gotten different versions through the House,
but the Senate's verse. That's true,

1176
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:00,560
the Senate version never matches the House
version, but the governor always vetos anyway.

1177
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,079
Yeah, all of them, no
matter whether they were Republicans or Democrats,

1178
01:24:03,119 --> 01:24:09,239
they've all given the kabash to a
lot of cannabis legislation. Does the

1179
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,119
answer your question, Tom, Yes, thanks man, I appreciate it.

1180
01:24:13,239 --> 01:24:16,600
Oh, anytime, all right.
By one of these days, maybe they'll

1181
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:20,279
get it straight before the rest of
the country, although at the rate they're

1182
01:24:20,279 --> 01:24:25,680
going I doubt it. But you
know what I do think is a possibility

1183
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:30,760
of change when the Feds reschedule.
This is a rescheduling that's being talked about

1184
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,319
now that in earnest there actually looks
like they're really going to do it.

1185
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,600
When it is rescheduled, that's going
to change everything in a lot of the

1186
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,039
states, and in this state there
are there are people up in Conquered that

1187
01:24:43,079 --> 01:24:46,760
have said if it was rescheduled,
they would vote for it, but as

1188
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,399
long as it's a Schedule one they
won't. Yeah, they're going to move

1189
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:55,039
it from schedule one to Schedule three. It looks like that's probably probably going

1190
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:58,720
to happen, which businesses will be
able to bank. Yeah, they can't

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01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,439
bank now. Uh. Six ozho
three two five zero six zero seven is

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01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,720
a studio line six zo three two
five zero six zero seven. Uh.

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01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:10,079
Let's we'll go through these Facebook comments
quickly because some of them more about our

1194
01:25:10,279 --> 01:25:15,359
conversation with Jody, So just some
interesting insights from my listeners. Isaac Banks

1195
01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:19,119
is in the Facebook live chat and
says, hello, hashtag Jody k Newell,

1196
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:25,359
how are you and what's up?
Let's see. Sepsis is in the

1197
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:30,720
Facebook live chat. Hello, let's
see. I'm gonna some of these are

1198
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,039
out of orders. Actually, now
we got to see Isaac sing. Yeah,

1199
01:25:34,199 --> 01:25:39,800
yeah, we actually got to see
Isaac sing. They're very real,

1200
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,600
human folks, very real. Some
of these are coming up out of order,

1201
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:45,399
so I'm gonna skip some of them. Melanie La Liberty from the Great

1202
01:25:45,399 --> 01:25:50,720
State of Vermont joins us and says, hey, guys, but that messes

1203
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:55,760
me up because now they're not boughts, so they are boughts. I don't

1204
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,800
know, I don't know how that
messes me up. So now I'm confused.

1205
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:03,600
Can you figure out if they're people
are bought? Sepsis says, we

1206
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:09,560
all have different chemistry. People that
make these products know that. That's referring

1207
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:13,840
to our discussion about the drug commercials
that you see on television. Sepsa said,

1208
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,800
they find a weakness and market it. But that's the American way.

1209
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:21,319
Everyone and everything has a market.
We market dating, music, poverty,

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01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:30,920
pain, Melanie said. When we
were talking about Florida, Melanie said they

1211
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,319
got to Santis too. That stuff
is super hard to get rid of.

1212
01:26:34,039 --> 01:26:38,960
She didn't say stuff, but Sepsa
said, everything is up for sale.

1213
01:26:39,079 --> 01:26:43,840
There is a solution and business for
all your pain and dreams. We are

1214
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:47,760
all living in a massive flea market. Ian venom four, who I'm going

1215
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,199
to guess is from Greensboro, North
Carolina, said hello, hashtag Matt and

1216
01:26:51,279 --> 01:26:57,560
hashtag gen from US and Hi hashtag
Jody K from US. What's going on?

1217
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,680
We said? Uh? Sepsis said, find your dreams, your weakness

1218
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:05,279
and hold that carrot in front of
you. Your identity, your health,

1219
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:10,920
your culture, nothing is nailed down. We are all buying and selling constantly.

1220
01:27:11,119 --> 01:27:15,199
The first language in this country is
economics. Uh, it's not a

1221
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:17,720
bad insight. Michael Albert joins us
in the Facebook live chat. He was

1222
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,560
extolling the virtues of staying hydrated on
a hot day. Looks like we're getting

1223
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:30,279
one last big blast of summer.
Let's see Yan Venom four confirming we are

1224
01:27:30,319 --> 01:27:33,680
from Greensboro, North Carolina. Is
US. We are a pop singing group

1225
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:42,840
quartet hashtag Joe d k Jan Venom
four says for US, we hate heroin

1226
01:27:43,039 --> 01:27:46,800
and drugs and also it is bad. We said from US hashtag Matt,

1227
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:51,960
hashtag Jen and hashtag JODK. We
say hi hashtag sepsis. How are you

1228
01:27:53,079 --> 01:27:58,880
doing? From us? Check out
our Facebook like page and post us hashtag

1229
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:02,279
Jen and hashtag met at We will
be performing for the event of the Sunshine

1230
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:08,399
Club at Saint Pious, the tenth
Catholic Church is Fall Dance at seven to

1231
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:14,479
nine pm indoors in Greensboro, North
Carolina. How did I know? I

1232
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:20,720
have Noah? You are psychic?
Is that it? No could be?

1233
01:28:21,239 --> 01:28:26,479
Could be? Oh? My Miriam
Bannish joins us in the Facebook live chat

1234
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:31,039
and she said, thank you for
doing this work. Jody absolutely uh.

1235
01:28:31,119 --> 01:28:36,000
Ean Venom four says consequences hashtag Jody
K. We say from US passed to

1236
01:28:36,199 --> 01:28:42,359
be past hashtag Matt. We said
from US, I by that and passed

1237
01:28:42,359 --> 01:28:47,319
to be passed to you two.
Eon venom four, I'm not sure the

1238
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:53,600
past to pass something h Miriam Banish
I says so happy the Facebook Live is

1239
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,680
back. Yes, absolutely, yeah. If you don't know what Miriam's referring

1240
01:28:56,720 --> 01:29:00,319
to. On Friday show, we
weren't on Facebook and there was some sort

1241
01:29:00,319 --> 01:29:04,479
of a glitch, but it seems
to have resolved. Jean venom four wished

1242
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:09,560
us a wonderful evening. Mike from
Queen City Cabinetry is in the Facebook Live

1243
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,239
chat. Queen City Cabinetry one of
our great sponsors here at WMNH, and

1244
01:29:13,279 --> 01:29:16,000
of course Mike I get to hang
out with every Friday night during Retro Spectrum

1245
01:29:16,119 --> 01:29:20,319
Radio with Pauli C. And Mike
said, good job, Eric. Another

1246
01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:26,800
movie on my watch list, and
Eric mentioned Eric Pilcher that that film is

1247
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:30,920
in the public domain, so it
is available to watch for free on YouTube.

1248
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:36,680
George A. Romero's The Crazies Let's
see j Fed also a very complimentary

1249
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:41,880
toward Eric's revue. Miriam Bannish says, wow, Jean Simmons hasn't had any

1250
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,159
alcohol. He puts my I've never
been drunk to shame. Yeah, Jean

1251
01:29:45,239 --> 01:29:51,159
Simmons has always been always yup,
yup, very very straight edge. Absolutely,

1252
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:59,760
let's see. Oh and Scott Robinson
said, I was prefer the anti

1253
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,000
dr commercial with the egg be in
your brain and you put it in the

1254
01:30:02,079 --> 01:30:06,560
fry pan and this is your brain
on drugs. Yes, yes, that

1255
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:11,600
is a classic to be sure,
worked well on our generation, didn't it.

1256
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:16,159
M Let me give you the studio
line again. Oh hello to Chris

1257
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:19,680
h from of course the band edgewise
in the chat room. The studio line

1258
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,920
is open six zero three two five
zero six zero seven six zero three two

1259
01:30:24,039 --> 01:30:27,680
five six o seven. Oh.
Melanie also said, good job, Eric,

1260
01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:30,960
And you wanted to give us an
update on the insurance. Yeah,

1261
01:30:31,239 --> 01:30:35,640
okay, guys, get this.
I'm still fighting. So they came time

1262
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:41,920
for them to finally pay the bill, and they did not honor the prior

1263
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,000
authorization that they gave all of us, with everything spelled out in it.

1264
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:48,920
They did not honor it. Who
do you mean by all of us?

1265
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:54,800
When I say all of us,
I mean I have At one point we

1266
01:30:54,960 --> 01:31:00,000
had a bunch of activists, reporters, Senator Shaheen's staff, Senator hass and

1267
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:05,920
staff or People's Action staff, all
these different people who have been helping with

1268
01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:10,319
this fight for those who may be
coming in a little late to this.

1269
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:15,159
We've been trying to get my infusions
covered that for the last five years have

1270
01:31:15,279 --> 01:31:20,560
kept me alive, and my insurance
always says it's not medically necessary. And

1271
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:27,199
we did a national national campaign,
we did videos, we had over four

1272
01:31:27,279 --> 01:31:32,560
thousand signatures on a petition, We
had both senators offices speaking on our behalf

1273
01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,920
on my behalf, trying to get
the insurance company to get this right.

1274
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:44,439
And they last gave us a prior
authorization with everything needed for my infusions approved

1275
01:31:45,039 --> 01:31:48,359
in network to be covered. Should
be the end of story. Congrats to

1276
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:54,199
us. Everybody goes away happy.
That's what was supposed to happen. Well,

1277
01:31:54,279 --> 01:31:57,640
then they comes time and the claim
comes up, and they didn't.

1278
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,520
They didn't pay what they were supposed
to pay. They paid in an out

1279
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,359
of network rate, which is way
less than what they're supposed to pay,

1280
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:09,039
which means I have to pay way
more so out of the entire bill.

1281
01:32:09,119 --> 01:32:12,199
They paid a little over two hundred
dollars, leaving me on the hook for

1282
01:32:12,279 --> 01:32:16,399
at least four hundred or thereabouts.
So now I've had to go back and

1283
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:23,600
send this documentation to Senator Shaheen's office
and Senator Hassan's office, and the folks

1284
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,520
of people's actions, all the people
that did all the work to help us

1285
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:30,199
get this far and go. When
it came down to them actually putting the

1286
01:32:30,279 --> 01:32:33,199
money on the bill, they found
another reason to not do it, where

1287
01:32:33,239 --> 01:32:35,800
they found another loophole, if you
will, to get out of it.

1288
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,760
They like to say that this particular
doctor is out of network in the state

1289
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,920
of New Hampshire. They like to
leave out the fact that he's literally the

1290
01:32:44,039 --> 01:32:47,039
only doctor in the state of New
Hampshire who does my treatments and is a

1291
01:32:47,079 --> 01:32:51,279
specialist in my rare disease, but
the treatment itself, he's literally the only

1292
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:57,560
m D in the state. And
that should mean that all of the insurance

1293
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:01,720
companies cover them, because suppose mostly
under law, insurance companies are supposed to

1294
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:05,960
have an adequate network available to you, and if they do not have an

1295
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:12,000
ad network available to you, they
are supposed to cover whatever is available as

1296
01:33:12,039 --> 01:33:15,479
an in network cost because you got
no choice, right, only guy in

1297
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:20,119
town. That's where I'm at,
and United Healthcare, or should I say,

1298
01:33:20,279 --> 01:33:24,039
let me give you guys the whole
name of my health insurance company,

1299
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:34,600
AARP, Medicare Advantage, United Healthcare, Walgreens. These companies are making a

1300
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,720
fortune off of all the premiums.
I mean, I pay premiums just like

1301
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,520
you guys. I pay co insurance, I pay co payments, and I've

1302
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,560
keep paying all of the other stuff
because I don't know. Sometimes I wonder

1303
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,159
what the heck I have health insurance
for. It's ridiculous that I'm still in

1304
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:54,800
this fight, guys. But if
you remember, I said it a while

1305
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,680
back, I wasn't going to believe
it until I saw them actually pay the

1306
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:03,279
bill. And I hate that I
was right and that here I go and

1307
01:34:03,399 --> 01:34:06,920
I can't see them paying the bill. I see them skirting it and putting

1308
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:12,840
it right back on me again as
usual, and it's it's depressing. It's

1309
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,239
absolutely depressing. Yeah, I really, I really did think we won this

1310
01:34:16,359 --> 01:34:20,840
time. I really thought that it's
finally over. They declared it medical neces

1311
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:30,479
nessity necessity, medically necessary. I
cannot speak. I'm done, all right.

1312
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,119
So unfortunately that's where I'm at.
That's the update. It feels like

1313
01:34:35,159 --> 01:34:39,640
going back to square one every time. It feels like I'm going back to

1314
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,960
start all over again. Well,
yeah, they're hoping you'll give up.

1315
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,279
Oh. The woman actually went so
far as to tell me that she knows

1316
01:34:46,359 --> 01:34:49,760
that I don't like to go through
the process, but that's what we have

1317
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:56,399
to do. And I really really
was beyond on that comment to me.

1318
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,760
When they say process, what they
mean is the appeals process, right,

1319
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,760
And I've lost track of how many
we've filed since April to cover the treatment

1320
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:10,680
I had on July eleventh. So
we started in April for this July treatment.

1321
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:15,359
We're now in September and we're still
still trying to get it done.

1322
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:17,199
By the time it's done, it's
gonna be time for the next treatment.

1323
01:35:17,399 --> 01:35:20,960
I just, yeah, that's depressing. I don't even want to go there.

1324
01:35:23,239 --> 01:35:26,720
Yeah, I don't want to go
there right now. All right,

1325
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:31,000
Well that's the update. Okay,
Well six Z three two five six zero

1326
01:35:31,119 --> 01:35:35,439
seven. The studio line is open
six zo three two five six zero seven.

1327
01:35:36,159 --> 01:35:39,399
Just something. I don't really know
what this is about. I didn't

1328
01:35:39,399 --> 01:35:43,039
have a chance to preread it,
but it jumped out of me. On

1329
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:49,039
media dot com, Elon Musk ruthlessly
mocked on his own platform after announcing he's

1330
01:35:49,079 --> 01:35:56,000
suing the Anti Defamation League for defamation. It says here after Twitter X.

1331
01:35:56,199 --> 01:35:59,159
By the way, this is what
I'm noticing. Now people are writing or

1332
01:35:59,239 --> 01:36:02,960
saying Twitter X, twitter slash X
because nobody wants to just say X,

1333
01:36:04,119 --> 01:36:06,960
and it's annoying. But people don't
want to be saying Twitter because it's not

1334
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,840
Twitter anymore. So now people are
calling it twitter X, so says here

1335
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:14,399
after Twitter X. Boss Elon Musk
shared the news that he planned to sue

1336
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:18,000
the Anti Defamation League for defamation.
There was a predictable response on Twitter X,

1337
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:24,239
pointing out the obvious fact he glossed
over in the first place. Musk

1338
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:29,560
ban I'm sorry. Musk blamed a
sixty percent drop in advertising revenue on the

1339
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,319
Anti Defamation League, claiming that the
organization was quote trying to kill this platform

1340
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:40,159
by falsely accusing it and me of
being an anti Semitic unquote. Back in

1341
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:45,159
November twenty twenty two, the ADL
did encourage advertisers to pause their campaigns on

1342
01:36:45,239 --> 01:36:48,720
the platform after Musk took over,
why because of a proven rise in hate

1343
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:55,239
speech after Musk reinstated several right leaning
accounts in the name of free speech absolutism.

1344
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,319
So, while Musk is pointing the
finger at the ADL Twitter X users

1345
01:36:59,359 --> 01:37:04,119
are gently be directing his finger towards
his company's numbers and the policies he instituted

1346
01:37:04,279 --> 01:37:14,840
himself. And let's see, Mike, this is at Roth's child MD.

1347
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:18,640
His name is Mike Rothschild and then
in parentheses he writes no relation. He

1348
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:24,359
said, I love the implication that
the erratic management, mass layoffs incoherent moderation,

1349
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:29,239
destruction of verification, decimated engineering staff, serial unbanning of racists, and

1350
01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:33,720
crumbling infrastructure had nothing to do with
Twitter losing half its value. Nope,

1351
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:43,439
just the jews. That was from
Mike Roth's child. Michael Edison Hayden at

1352
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:47,079
Michael E. Hayden tweeted, It's
all kind of vaguely stated, but the

1353
01:37:47,199 --> 01:37:53,840
only thing I've gleaned from Elon Musk's
public meltdown about ADL and his advertisers this

1354
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:59,439
weekend is that X is not doing
very well financially. Maya Wiley, Oh,

1355
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,720
yes, familiar with her at my
Wiley tweeted a reminder hashtag. Elon

1356
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:09,279
Musk paid four forty four billion dollars
for Twitter, decimated the department and leadership

1357
01:38:09,319 --> 01:38:14,840
responsible for reducing hate on the platform, and hate including anti Semitism doubled,

1358
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:23,800
according to a peer reviewed study.
Online hate doesn't stay online. And there's

1359
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:29,680
some there's some others. But yeah, I guess, uh yeah, Elon

1360
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,439
Musk he did. Uh oh,
there's quite a few, quite a few

1361
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:33,520
tweets here. I don't want to
go through all of them, but we

1362
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:38,239
still call them tweets. I don't
know what you call it, but yes,

1363
01:38:38,359 --> 01:38:42,199
he's very upset with the Anti Defamation
League after for being critical of him

1364
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:50,039
letting all these uh folks back on
the platform. Something else that jumped out

1365
01:38:50,079 --> 01:38:54,640
of me too, because somebody else
finally said something that I've been saying,

1366
01:38:55,359 --> 01:39:00,880
and it's the statistician statistician Nate Silver. He used to be with five thirty

1367
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:01,800
eight dot com. In fact,
I think he founded at it, but

1368
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:06,600
I think he is separated from them. But this is from The Hill dot

1369
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:12,159
Com. Nate Silver says a McConnell
moment for Biden could give Trump a second

1370
01:39:12,279 --> 01:39:15,079
term. I've been saying that.
I'm the only one who had been saying

1371
01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:18,920
it, at least publicly that I'm
aware of, that had said that specifically

1372
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:26,279
because I think it's probably considered impolite. But I've been saying that about Joe

1373
01:39:26,319 --> 01:39:30,439
Biden. He's just one Mitch McConnell
moment away from losing. Because if anything

1374
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,920
happens like what's happened to Mitch McConnell, and there's new information on that,

1375
01:39:34,039 --> 01:39:38,039
I guess it did have to do
it sounds like it did have to do

1376
01:39:38,159 --> 01:39:43,880
with his those freeze ups he's been
having. They're not seizures per se,

1377
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:47,720
but they had to do with his
fall. And anyway, somebody else finally

1378
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,319
said it. You know, if
something like that ever happens to Biden publicly,

1379
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:57,479
it's over. This is from again, this is from the hill.

1380
01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,640
Nate Silver, the founder of five
thirty eight Okay, he is the founder,

1381
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:05,479
argued today that President Biden's age is
a legitimate concern for voters in the

1382
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:12,039
twenty twenty four election, warning that
former President Trump could just be one quote

1383
01:40:12,199 --> 01:40:18,319
Biden has a McConnell moment unquote away
from a second term. Silver wrote,

1384
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:24,479
quote, If the expert class doesn't
understand that Biden's age is both a real

1385
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:29,479
concern for voters and a valid concern, they'd better be prepared for getting a

1386
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,479
second Trump term instead. This election
is probably going to be close, and

1387
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:39,079
Trump might be only one Biden as
a McConnell moment away from winning unquote.

1388
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:43,359
The reference to Senate Minority Leader Mitch
McConnell comes in the wake of the GOP

1389
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:47,239
leader's second public freeze up in just
more than a month. McConnell stared ahead

1390
01:40:47,279 --> 01:40:53,560
for about thirty seconds while taking questions
from reporters last Wednesday. In late July,

1391
01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:58,199
the eighty one year old senator similarly
froze for about twenty seconds twenty three

1392
01:40:58,199 --> 01:41:01,560
to be precise, during his weekly
press conference at the Capitol before being escorted

1393
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:08,439
away. While there is not a
massive age gap between Biden and Trump currently

1394
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:15,520
eighty and seventy seven years old,
respectively respectively, rather no, respectively,

1395
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:18,800
I said it right the first time, didn't I yeah, I know right,

1396
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:28,079
Silver noted that their age difference is
potentially meaningful, pointing to popular population

1397
01:41:28,199 --> 01:41:31,520
level data. Silver wrote, quote, the age of Biden and Trump during

1398
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:40,199
their potential second terms corresponds to the
infection point. I think that's supposed to

1399
01:41:40,199 --> 01:41:43,079
be inflection. That's a typo that
that's not me this time. That's a

1400
01:41:43,119 --> 01:41:46,520
typo. It says the infection point. Silver. No, it really does.

1401
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:50,479
Silver. When he wrote that,
he was probably thinking about COVID in

1402
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,039
the back, in the back of
his mind, probably, but he clearly

1403
01:41:54,119 --> 01:41:57,880
means inflection point. So I'll start
the sentence again. The age of Biden

1404
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:02,479
and Trump during the potential second terms
corresponds to the inflection point at which the

1405
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:08,520
risk of death begins to increase meaningfully
every year. So again, if voters

1406
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:13,119
are diagnosing the candidates just based on
population level data, or perhaps based on

1407
01:42:13,199 --> 01:42:17,159
their personal experience of being around aging
parents and relatives, it's hardly crazy for

1408
01:42:17,239 --> 01:42:23,239
them to think the age gap between
Biden and Trump is relevant. Unquote,

1409
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:28,319
that is true. It's an interesting
observation because, yeah, Trump is only

1410
01:42:28,399 --> 01:42:31,000
three years younger, but nobody really
talks about his age. I think there

1411
01:42:31,039 --> 01:42:38,720
might be a few reasons for that. But yeah, the older, you

1412
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:42,920
know, like the younger you are
three years doesn't seem like a big deal,

1413
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,640
but when you get to be up
around close to eighty three years can

1414
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:53,520
make a huge difference. But the
other thing, too, is it's it.

1415
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,560
You know, when we talk about
this, I feel like it should

1416
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:01,720
be said it is about age,
but not exactly. And what I mean

1417
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:09,600
by that is everybody ages differently,
and when someone is eighty years old and

1418
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:17,039
you can you can see the difference
from how they are now versus just a

1419
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:21,640
couple of years ago, And with
Biden, we can. When you can

1420
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:28,520
see the difference and it's appreciable at
least, I think, then it's a

1421
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,560
concern. But it's it's not about
the age itself. It's about how they're

1422
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:36,399
aging. Because I was thinking about
it today, it occurred to me Bernie

1423
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,640
Sanders. I think he's only one
or two years older than Biden, maybe

1424
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,760
one. I think he might be
eighty one, he might be eighty two.

1425
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:45,720
I'm not sure, although Biden will
be eighty one in November. I

1426
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:51,560
think if Bernie Sanders, though we're
president right now, yes, we would

1427
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:56,479
be having this conversation about age,
but it wouldn't be nearly as big of

1428
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,039
an issue as it is. Why
because with Bernie, you see Bernie now

1429
01:44:01,640 --> 01:44:05,880
and you listen to him, he's
pretty much the same guy. But Bernie,

1430
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,600
I mean you you've actually you actually
got to meet him in DC.

1431
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,399
Yeah, yeah, I mean Bernie
just I've never met him, But he

1432
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,800
has more energy. He's just Bernie's
a force of nature. Whether you whether

1433
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,880
you like him or not, whether
you agree with his politics or not,

1434
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:23,319
He's a force of nature, and
he just you know, it's almost hard

1435
01:44:23,399 --> 01:44:28,640
to imagine him sort of mumbling or
whispering the way Biden does sometimes. It's

1436
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,000
he almost can't even imagine it.
He really needs to stop that whole whispering

1437
01:44:32,079 --> 01:44:35,000
thing. Yeah, he's been doing
that for a while. It's awful.

1438
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:42,199
It doesn't help well, especially in
the contrast because he kind of does the

1439
01:44:42,279 --> 01:44:45,640
old man yelling thing and then goes
into a whisper. It's like, oh,

1440
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:55,319
him to be more animated, to
have more oomph in his speech.

1441
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:59,680
And that's why I think what you're
kind of talking about there. When Bernie

1442
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:01,359
gets up to the mic, He's
got it. He's got it. Bernie's

1443
01:45:01,399 --> 01:45:03,920
just got the energy he gets going. Well, that's the thing. That's

1444
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:08,520
what I mean. See, if
Bernie were president right now, uh,

1445
01:45:09,560 --> 01:45:14,640
you wouldn't. Again, age would
still be a topic of discussion. It

1446
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:16,119
would still be a concern, but
it would be far less of one because

1447
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,439
you know, if you I mean, you can say, I mean,

1448
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:25,800
he Bernie looks every every bit his
age visually, of course, but if

1449
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:29,960
you close your eyes and just listen
to him, he doesn't. He's no

1450
01:45:30,079 --> 01:45:31,920
different than he was five years ago, ten years ago. He's the same

1451
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:38,039
guy. There's there's clearly he as
far as I can tell, he hasn't

1452
01:45:38,119 --> 01:45:41,960
lost anything. So that's what it's
really about. It's like it's about age,

1453
01:45:42,079 --> 01:45:46,840
but not exactly about age. People
want somebody who has more energy.

1454
01:45:47,199 --> 01:45:51,039
Yeah, somebody who actually looks like
they're going to have the energy to do

1455
01:45:51,359 --> 01:45:58,199
what they're saying. Yeah and no, whether you know not, opinions and

1456
01:45:58,239 --> 01:46:03,359
stuff doesn't matter. The reason why
they've nicknamed President bid and Sleepy Joe because

1457
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:10,079
he is more sedate at the podium. He does that whisper thing so much

1458
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:15,760
that you know, when he stops
talking, he never just immediately turns and

1459
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,000
turns walks away. He kind of
meanders, Yeah, he's got he's got

1460
01:46:19,039 --> 01:46:23,640
a little bit of a shuffle.
And I hate to say that. I

1461
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:26,600
hate to say that. Does sound
like a bad person for saying it,

1462
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:30,399
but reality is. That's why there's
a difference when people look at Bernie at

1463
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:33,319
the at the podium than they do
Bide And at the podium. Yeah,

1464
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:38,800
it's Bernie. He's all there.
He brings the energy you gotta When you're

1465
01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,479
around him, you kind of feel
like you have to keep up to him.

1466
01:46:42,199 --> 01:46:45,920
Honestly, I got that feeling from
just my short time around him,

1467
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:50,159
but also his staff. They gotta
keep he's got a he's got a plans,

1468
01:46:50,199 --> 01:46:53,760
he's got things to do, and
he's gonna get there and he's gonna

1469
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,119
get it done. And when he
gets in front of the podium, he's

1470
01:46:56,159 --> 01:47:00,760
demanding and he has he has conviction. There's there's this, it's there.

1471
01:47:01,159 --> 01:47:04,840
Biden doesn't oomph. He just does
it well. He sort of does like

1472
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:11,640
guys. No, he's he's well
and well. I disagree. I disagree

1473
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:15,119
in the sense it's sometimes he's not. No, sometimes he has a lot

1474
01:47:15,159 --> 01:47:16,880
of it. I mean, I
have seen speeches where he's very energetic,

1475
01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:25,159
but he's almost like but there's a
difference between being passionate and being and just

1476
01:47:25,319 --> 01:47:30,079
coming across like an old man yelling
and he and when he throws in the

1477
01:47:30,119 --> 01:47:35,319
whispering, it's like he goes from
being an old man yelling doing mess to

1478
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:40,279
make a point, and it's very
jarring. I hate it, and it's

1479
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:45,439
very it's very cringe. It's creepy
and uh it's creepy. I'm not creeped

1480
01:47:45,439 --> 01:47:49,319
out by I think it's just uh, stop it. You know, we

1481
01:47:50,119 --> 01:47:55,279
it was once, but after that
it lost its appeal. It's not acceptable,

1482
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:59,760
it's we can't, we cannot have
this, uh this rematch. Tom

1483
01:48:00,159 --> 01:48:02,479
entered in the chat room, says, my dad was eighty when he retired

1484
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:08,039
as head chef of the Red Arrow
restaurant. Well, a head chef at

1485
01:48:08,079 --> 01:48:11,720
the Red Arrow. I assume he
was quite energetic, Yeah, Miriam says

1486
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:15,680
Bernie. Miriam says Bernie as sharp
as attack. Yes, that's the thing

1487
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:19,000
again, if he were president right
now, would age be an issue,

1488
01:48:19,119 --> 01:48:23,800
Yes, but not nearly as much
because it's not really about the age.

1489
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:28,159
And that's part of two why with
Trump, even though Trump is only a

1490
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:32,039
few years younger, no one talks
about it because Trump seems pretty much the

1491
01:48:32,159 --> 01:48:36,359
same. I mean, he kind
of he kind of lumbers around when he

1492
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:43,359
walks, but he's heavy and he
and he is seventy seven. But there's

1493
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:49,479
no but his thing you can't compare
because his thing is this weird cult like

1494
01:48:50,319 --> 01:48:53,960
no I know, I know,
but I'm just saying, in terms of

1495
01:48:54,039 --> 01:48:58,199
presentation, how he is like he
doesn't. He doesn't. He doesn't seem

1496
01:48:58,239 --> 01:49:03,640
any different. He doesn't seem like
he's uh lost any I mean, he

1497
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:10,199
sometimes during Actually I've seen a couple
of clips of his speeches there where he

1498
01:49:10,479 --> 01:49:13,880
does seem to get a little lost
in moments, but not but not everybody

1499
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:16,720
does, but speeches all the time. Well he you know, he just

1500
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:21,760
anyway. But the point being,
it's it's not it's nothing, nothing even

1501
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:28,359
approaching the scale of the diminishment that
we've seen with Biden. And uh,

1502
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,640
you know, I talked on the
show last week about how Mark Halpern was

1503
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,640
saying on Michael Smerconich's show, and
I realized when I went back and listened

1504
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:36,840
to it, actually undersold it when
I talked about it the first time.

1505
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:42,319
According to Mark Halpern, Biden's already
made the decision to get out, but

1506
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,239
he's but he's gonna keep going with
the charade until he figures out how to

1507
01:49:45,359 --> 01:49:50,239
do this, What's what's the best
course of action? And I hope that's

1508
01:49:50,319 --> 01:49:55,279
true. Honestly, if Democrats are
going to maintain the White House, they're

1509
01:49:55,279 --> 01:49:58,640
going to have to run somebody else, because if we have a replay of

1510
01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:02,119
Biden and Trump, I firmly believe
that Trump will win. I don't firmly

1511
01:50:02,199 --> 01:50:05,439
believe that, but I think I
shouldn't say firmly, I very strongly believe.

1512
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:09,680
I don't. I wouldn't even say
strongly, but I do think that

1513
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:15,279
I don't say strongly, but I
do think it's certainly possible. And there's

1514
01:50:15,399 --> 01:50:18,800
uh there was a poll out today
that shows shows him in a dead heat.

1515
01:50:19,399 --> 01:50:26,239
The Trump's biggest problem is he's not
He's not going to have expanded his

1516
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,840
uh again, all the all the
indictments and everything. They make him a

1517
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,720
lock now more than ever, according
to polling data. They may make him

1518
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,640
a lock for the nomination. I
mean, he's the rest of them might

1519
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:39,159
just might as well as just drop
out right now. And we're not even

1520
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:42,560
at the h We're still four months
away from the Iowa caucus. But no,

1521
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,039
I mean, it's it's ridiculous.
Trump is so far ahead. It's

1522
01:50:45,079 --> 01:50:48,359
it's just he is going to be
the nominee. I would stake my life

1523
01:50:48,399 --> 01:50:53,840
on it. But he doesn't.
He hasn't done anything to expand his base

1524
01:50:54,079 --> 01:50:57,279
because like I have to. But
no, but here's the thing for I'm

1525
01:50:57,279 --> 01:51:00,079
talking about for the general election.
In the general election, you know,

1526
01:51:00,239 --> 01:51:06,399
I can't believe that there's any independence
anywhere or even you know, even middle

1527
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:13,239
class college educated suburban moderate Republicans who
are sitting around going, you know,

1528
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,960
I abandoned Trump in twenty twenty because
I was just sick of him. But

1529
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:19,039
ah, you know, with these
four criminal indictments, I'm giving him a

1530
01:51:19,079 --> 01:51:21,880
second. Look. You know,
that's that's not a thing. You're off.

1531
01:51:23,039 --> 01:51:26,720
You're off, So you're off.
Here's what I think. Those same

1532
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:30,199
people that you're trying to talk about
here don't. You're not gonna like what

1533
01:51:30,279 --> 01:51:33,439
I have to say, but it's
the truth. Gas prices were what when

1534
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:36,680
Trump was in office and what are
they now? They were less than two

1535
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:42,560
dollars Now they're what four dollars.
People vote with their with their wallets,

1536
01:51:42,680 --> 01:51:45,359
they do. And the people that
maybe it didn't go with Trump in twenty

1537
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:49,239
twenty, those those moderate Republicans,
they're gonna end up going for him because

1538
01:51:49,279 --> 01:51:53,319
they want their better life. They
want to have more money in their pocket

1539
01:51:53,359 --> 01:51:58,760
again. And they're people are stopping
to also remember that we also had a

1540
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,880
plague and war start and all of
these things that had an effect that changed

1541
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:05,680
how things are. But that's not
how people look at it. No,

1542
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:10,439
Trump was in the Whitehouse, their
gas tank was full, their groceries were

1543
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:14,640
cheaper, and so were their utilities. They're not now, and that's what

1544
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:17,399
he's up against. And that's why
I believe that in a rematch, Trump

1545
01:52:17,439 --> 01:52:21,239
will win, maybe with moderate Republicans, not with independence though I don't think,

1546
01:52:21,399 --> 01:52:24,439
but with moderate Republicans. I mean, you have a point, because

1547
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:31,119
unfortunately Americans view economics are I think
generally most Americans are only capable of thinking

1548
01:52:31,119 --> 01:52:41,880
about economics through a strictly partisan lens. It's really unfortunate. But I think

1549
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,800
that's and I don't know why.
I don't know why it's like that,

1550
01:52:45,479 --> 01:52:48,920
but it is. Actually, I
think Americans look look at most issues through

1551
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:54,119
a partisan lens, but especially economics, and look at it through what they

1552
01:52:54,159 --> 01:52:57,279
can do. If I can't put
food in my refrigerator and I'm worrying about

1553
01:52:57,279 --> 01:53:00,880
paying the electric bill, that's what
I'm worrying about. I don't care what

1554
01:53:00,039 --> 01:53:03,319
the stock market's doing. Maybe if
I have a four oh one K I

1555
01:53:03,399 --> 01:53:08,720
might care, yeah, But for
the most part, I'm caring about whether

1556
01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:11,119
I can keep a roof over my
head, food in my stomach, and

1557
01:53:11,199 --> 01:53:15,600
gas on my tank. Right,
we are about out a time. We

1558
01:53:15,680 --> 01:53:19,279
gotta go. Thank you again to
Joe D. K Newell. I'm trying

1559
01:53:19,319 --> 01:53:24,039
to remember to keep the K in
there because she likes the K. The

1560
01:53:24,119 --> 01:53:27,720
honorable representative who joined us today for
a wonderful discussion in the first hour,

1561
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,880
and then we had, of course
Eric Pilcher's classic film review George A.

1562
01:53:30,039 --> 01:53:34,680
Romero's nineteen seventy three film The Crazies, And did you want to plug your

1563
01:53:34,840 --> 01:53:38,720
your website or anything before we go? Absolutely, you can check me out

1564
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:42,640
at gencoffee dot com. J E
N N C O F e y dot

1565
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,119
com. You can find most of
my publications there, but I am spreading

1566
01:53:45,119 --> 01:53:47,840
out to a lot of different sites
these days. So yes, I'm very

1567
01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:50,880
excited about that. Thank you to
all the support that I have gotten.

1568
01:53:51,079 --> 01:53:55,119
Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, by
the way, just quickly, Melanie said

1569
01:53:55,159 --> 01:53:58,920
in the chat room, no way
he said to drink bleach. Now,

1570
01:53:59,039 --> 01:54:00,079
even I have to defend, as
much as I don't like to, I

1571
01:54:00,119 --> 01:54:02,199
have to defend Trump on that one. He never said to drink bleach.

1572
01:54:02,359 --> 01:54:06,800
Now, what he actually did say
that everyone refers to is almost as absurd

1573
01:54:08,039 --> 01:54:11,880
and insane. But he never actually
said to drink bleach. He just said

1574
01:54:11,920 --> 01:54:15,479
that maybe maybe there's a way to
ingest it. Close hive, close to

1575
01:54:16,279 --> 01:54:19,159
give your lungs. How did he
put it? Almost like a cleaning as

1576
01:54:19,199 --> 01:54:25,560
he looked over to a horrified doctor. Tempra Burke suits said in her books

1577
01:54:25,560 --> 01:54:30,119
she wanted to fall through the floor
in that moment. Anyway, we gotta

1578
01:54:30,159 --> 01:54:31,279
go. We're out of time.
If you miss any partnersan today's show,

1579
01:54:31,279 --> 01:54:34,479
it will be up in just a
little bit at WMH radio dot org and

1580
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:38,640
my website Matt Connerton dot com.
We're gonna leave you with a little bit

1581
01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:42,520
of Eons and coded. I love
this band. We gotta get them on

1582
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,079
the right, I keep saying them. It's one guy who does all the

1583
01:54:45,159 --> 01:54:47,439
instruments, but we should get we
should get him on the show. This

1584
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:50,199
is called hidden Away. I just
happened to listen to this earlier and I

1585
01:54:50,319 --> 01:54:54,760
really like it. This isn't the
track from him that I usually play,

1586
01:54:55,079 --> 01:54:57,439
but we'll hear a little bit of
this on our way out. Talking to

1587
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,239
y'all a little bit later. By
everybody, Bye,