1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:05,440 Hey everyone, thanks so much for tuning into this live stream episode of dog 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,919 Man Encounters. I really appreciate you coming and on tonight's show so that you 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,199 know we're going to welcome back Kim from episodes three ninety nine and four eighty 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,640 eight. On episode three ninety nine, Kim came on and talked about an 5 00:00:20,679 --> 00:00:25,839 account she had when she was younger going down this lonely road when this ten 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,800 footer acrossed the road in front of her and scared the dickens out of her 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,159 wall. Fast forward to recent time, and I guess about maybe a month 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,799 or so ago, maybe a hair over a month ago, she had an 9 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:47,759 encounter with a female dog woman that she's named Imber. Well, last weekend, 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,679 when she was driving home from her mother's house, she happened to see 11 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:57,439 five dog men, And we're starting to wonder if that might not have been 12 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,920 Imber's family. And there's a good possibility when you listen to or share this 13 00:01:02,039 --> 00:01:06,239 most recent experience, that Ember might have been with that group that day. 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,000 Well, without any further ado, let's bring Kim on here. Kim, 15 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,400 are you there? Hellovick, Hey, Kim, thanks so much for coming 16 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:21,840 back. I appreciate it glad to be here. Well, it's great, 17 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,560 halfn't you? It really is, Kim. Obviously, that first encounter you 18 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,599 had, the one you chronicled in episode three ninety nine, that shit keept 19 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,760 quite a bit. But from what you said on episode four eighty eight, 20 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:40,159 your encounter with Ember didn't. Did this most recent experience did it rattle you 21 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:42,920 at all? Or was it kind of like the one you told us about 22 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:49,400 with Ember. I would compare it with Ember because of the distance that they 23 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,840 were away from the road. They'd have been close to the road. I 24 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,680 might have been a little bit shook up, but it was really nice that 25 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:59,719 I could observe them the way I did. Oh, that's a good thing. 26 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:01,920 If you have to have a dog meaning encounter, if it's not a 27 00:02:01,959 --> 00:02:07,840 traumatic one, that's a definite plus. Well, I could throw more questions 28 00:02:07,879 --> 00:02:09,840 at you, Bud. Let's get down to brass tacks. If you don't 29 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,919 mind, please tell us about what happened when you have this most recent experience. 30 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Oh okay, my mother lives in another town, and I've already explained 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,240 all this before. I'm on those back roads a lot because that's how I 32 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,360 come and go between here and there. I mean, I'm on the back 33 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:34,199 roads two or three times a week because my mother's older, of course, 34 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,599 and I just spend time with her. It's not that she needs my help 35 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,520 much. I just go out there. So working my mom are probably pretty 36 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,159 much my life. But I'm on these roads a lot, and I'm very 37 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:51,680 familiar with these roads. And on Saturday of last week, I was coming 38 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:55,319 home at about four point thirty to five o'clock, which is the sun going 39 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:02,280 down here where I live in Kansas City, and I was on a nice 40 00:03:02,319 --> 00:03:06,879 paved asphalt road. It was It's a little nicer than some of the other 41 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:15,960 roads that I traverse. And I turned. I was originally headed south, 42 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:20,960 and I turned and was headed east. And as I headed east, I 43 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,240 encountered some woods in the field and some other woods. But just up the 44 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:31,199 hill from here is the interstate, and I saw Ember on the other side 45 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:37,840 of that interstate. If you drew a line as the crow flies, from 46 00:03:37,879 --> 00:03:42,080 where she was and where these were, it was it could have been a 47 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,960 straight line, except that they had to get under or over that interstate somehow. 48 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,759 But it wasn't like a mile from where I saw Ember. I mean, 49 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:53,319 it's just crazy. And now I'm not saying that that is Ember. 50 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,520 I'm hoping it is, just you know, for the fairytale aspect of it. 51 00:03:58,599 --> 00:04:02,960 But as I rounded that corner and headed up that street, there's a 52 00:04:03,039 --> 00:04:09,000 house on my right. I drove past the house and on the left side 53 00:04:09,159 --> 00:04:13,120 this field begins. There's woods at the east end of the west end of 54 00:04:13,159 --> 00:04:16,279 this field, and the field gradually goes up a soft hill. It's not 55 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,879 a real steep hill. There's a lot of deer around, and the time 56 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:24,759 of night that I was driving, the deer are out, and so you 57 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,959 watch for them to cross the road or you know, you see them in 58 00:04:27,959 --> 00:04:30,639 the fields. And I saw a movement at the top of the hill. 59 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,759 And if if I hadn't been paying attention, I would have totally missed these 60 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,879 guys. They were at the top of the crest of the hill. If 61 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,480 they had been past that area, I wouldn't have gotten to see them either. 62 00:04:42,519 --> 00:04:45,720 It was like it was just it was just too it was just too 63 00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:50,600 perfect. I saw movement and I looked, and I knew immediately what they 64 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:58,439 were. I've been on the shows enough listening and looking at pictures, and 65 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:04,600 they're deniably were dog men. There were two that were large and were walking 66 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:14,120 up right and in the probably three to four foot tall dry golden grass. 67 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:17,040 You know, this timing, everything turns a yellow. I like, I 68 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,680 like to say gold. I don't like to be negative. But the golden 69 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:27,759 tan grass that Kansas particularly, we have a we have a prairie grass, 70 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:34,160 and this field is not particularly motor kept much. So I see the two 71 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,360 dog men that are walking, but I could see something in the grass, 72 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,439 and I kept watching. I actually pulled over because they were about three hundred 73 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,839 feet from the road and I felt it was safe and I had to. 74 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,879 I had to see them. I can't drive past this, and I didn't 75 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:55,000 have I didn't have my binoculars. They're in the car now. I promise 76 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,360 they're in the car. If there is the next time, I'm going to 77 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,959 see what I'm looking at. So these guys are at the top of the 78 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,720 hill and there's movement in the grass, and I thought it might be coyotes 79 00:06:04,199 --> 00:06:08,000 moving with them, but it was three. It was there were It was 80 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,439 three of the same species. There were three other dog people. They did 81 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,839 eventually stand up and walk on all fours. This field is probably not even 82 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:21,560 an acre across, So this whole encounter or experience. This wasn't really an 83 00:06:21,639 --> 00:06:28,519 encounter. Probably took a total of a minute, maybe a minute and a 84 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,920 half. They were not in any way, shape or form moving quickly. 85 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,439 They were just ambling along, just like they were down on the country club 86 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:41,959 plaza looking at the lights. They're just strolling across there. And there were 87 00:06:42,079 --> 00:06:46,480 two bigger ones about the same size. The other three were like stairsteps. 88 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:51,560 I can't give you a footage because I wasn't close enough to them to gauge 89 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,480 actual height. But there was one a little smaller than the big ones, 90 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,720 and then another one that was smaller, and then another small one. Uh 91 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:04,800 Now, these guys, the two big ones were Bronnie. We're Bronnie guys. 92 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,399 They were well proportioned, had the triangular upper body, and I could 93 00:07:10,439 --> 00:07:14,959 even I could even notice their ears twitching a little bit. Uh So, 94 00:07:15,279 --> 00:07:19,240 and let's see, I don't know if I saw tails. I don't. 95 00:07:19,319 --> 00:07:24,480 I can't say anything about tails. I could not see their lower feet exactly 96 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,399 because of the grass. But anyway, there were five of them, and 97 00:07:27,439 --> 00:07:30,160 there was a smaller one, and I'd say the smaller one was probably five 98 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:35,079 foot because this grass was probably at the at its tallest about four feet, 99 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:41,279 and I could see that that smaller one above the grass, it's head. 100 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,879 But I saw off there were five of them, and Vic and I discussed 101 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,199 this about why would they be all together like that, because I guess that's 102 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,720 not a common thing. But they were just marching across the field just as 103 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,199 you know, as happy as you could be. And they were going from 104 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,920 east to west. Uh, the Interstate is east, so they had come 105 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,879 and the and the Interstate is not that far from where they the woods. 106 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:09,199 They came out of those inn Let's see, there's a road, let's see, 107 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,759 let's see less. Let me think, yeah, there's a road. 108 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,839 There's a road behind them, it would be a road, and then and 109 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:20,319 there's a little bit of space and then the interstate. So they were coming 110 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:26,560 out of a thin band of woods not far from the interstate. Now the 111 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,079 woods that they were traversing into, there's a house. It's behind a house. 112 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,480 And then there was a house behind me to the right. So were 113 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,440 there were people everywhere. I didn't see anybody, but this is a residential 114 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:45,679 area and there were five of these guys. Uh, just amazing. Anyway, 115 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,559 I did kind of glance around a little bit to see if there was 116 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,639 anybody around, and there wasn't. I don't know what I would have done 117 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:56,399 if I'd seen somebody and not a single car went by, and that time 118 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,799 of night there should be people coming home from work. But I just had 119 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:05,399 my my minute alone with these these five creatures, and it's amazing that they 120 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,480 were. There were so many of them, and I believe me, it 121 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:13,519 pretty much set me to be convinced now that they are definitely in this area. 122 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,480 I wish the people that had told me that they had seen encounters in 123 00:09:18,519 --> 00:09:22,120 the same areas I have would please give their stories to VIC. I would 124 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,279 love to hear them. I'm just wanting to know what other people have seen 125 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,360 in common with what I'm seeing here in this area. Vic, I don't 126 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:39,000 know what else to say other than it was just crazy. Yeah, that's 127 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,559 a good way to sum it up. And so that you know, if 128 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,320 those people do contact me to let me know about those encounters, I'll definitely 129 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,399 let you know in turn, and I'll see if I can arrange a conversation 130 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,679 so you can speak with them. If you'd liked you, Oh, that 131 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,679 would be oh my gosh, that would be great. Yeah, that would 132 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:58,679 be just great. Yeah, be glad to do that. You count on 133 00:09:58,799 --> 00:10:05,399 it, Yeah, definitely. All right. Well, I've already got a 134 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,399 question for you, and it is from James Escobar. James wants to know 135 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:18,120 what type of dogmen were they. Well, I'm I'm assuming they were just 136 00:10:18,279 --> 00:10:20,799 the I don't know how they go one, two, three. This is 137 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:26,879 just the main This is just the plane dog man with the the the canine 138 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:33,360 haunches and that foot dog dog stole foot. They weren't. They were not 139 00:10:33,519 --> 00:10:37,440 walking on straight legs, so they're not. It wouldn't be the number three 140 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,799 kind that look more human. These were the kind that I've seen before, 141 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,000 just just like Ember and my big guy fifty years ago, looking just like 142 00:10:48,039 --> 00:10:52,240 a dog standing up on the on its back feet except for the arms. 143 00:10:52,519 --> 00:10:54,879 And the funny thing is is their arms. Their arms were actually swinging, 144 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,360 which makes you kind of think of a a an ape the way they were, 145 00:11:01,759 --> 00:11:09,919 you know, ambling along those long arms. Well, their arms are 146 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,879 pretty ape like in a lot of cases, so yeah, that makes sense. 147 00:11:15,879 --> 00:11:18,879 I've got another question for you from j Mommy, and she wants to 148 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:28,159 know what state is kim in Kansas. All right, I've got that taken 149 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:35,360 care of looking for the next question, which is from Gia Blonde, and 150 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,879 Gia wants to know what is the relationship between dog Man and the rake? 151 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:45,159 Do you know the Do you know anything about rakes? Kim, No, 152 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:50,480 I don't know anything about rakes. The only other creature I've ever experienced, 153 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,799 I've told you, is a skin walker's style, So I actually don't know 154 00:11:56,919 --> 00:12:01,120 of what that would I can't answer that. Sorry, I'm glad you can't. 155 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,960 Hope you never do have an experience with a rake. Oh, I 156 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,320 think a rake would probably terrify me. Yeah, that makes two of us, 157 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:13,039 it probably would. That's why I'm so glad you never had an experience 158 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,279 with one. Hope you never do, that's for sure. Well, I've 159 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:20,600 got another question for you from the Polish mom, and she wants to know 160 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:26,600 do you think they saw you? No, they did not. They didn't 161 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,480 notice me at all. I had my eyes on them the whole time and 162 00:12:30,519 --> 00:12:33,639 they never once looked down that hill. They didn't notice me at all. 163 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,320 But you have to realize they just came out of an area where there's an 164 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:45,639 interstate, so motor vehicles are something that that they're familiar with. So my 165 00:12:45,799 --> 00:12:52,440 car being down the hill from them probably didn't affect them at all. Oh, 166 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,960 I'm sure it didn't. It takes a lot to knock them off their 167 00:12:56,039 --> 00:12:58,080 game, so to speak. So yeah, for them, I'm pretty sure 168 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:03,440 those businesses usual. For all I know. They might have been following some 169 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,639 deer. I didn't see any deer, but all I saw was them, 170 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:09,519 But they were crossing the field. They might have been after, you know, 171 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:13,279 some deer across there. Yeah, they might have been making a living 172 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:18,480 out there. Before we move on, if you have any questions for a 173 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,519 Kim, please be sure to type it in all the caps. I don't 174 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,120 miss it. I've been missing questions because they aren't in all the caps, 175 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,639 and if I can't, I want to prevent that. Well, moving on, 176 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,399 If one of those dog people happened to be Imber, do you have 177 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,519 an opinion on which one it might have been? Did you see any that 178 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:43,440 just might have been her? Well, they were too far away to tell 179 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:50,879 the sex. But since the two tallest ones, let's let's let's change that 180 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:56,519 the two smaller ones. One was exactly about half the height of the two 181 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,919 bigger ones, So she, if it was Ember, she would have been 182 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:07,559 smaller one or the next to the smaller one. I see that makes sense. 183 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,759 Well, I've got a question from Victor Peluci and Vic wants to know 184 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:20,759 do you think there's Do you think they're a natural animal or supernatural? I 185 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:28,399 think they're a natural animal. I've encountered supernatural type stuff, and these guys 186 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:41,919 don't feel like a supernatural being to me. That's one of those questions that 187 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:46,360 if you do this or any period of time, that's probably one of the 188 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:52,000 biggest questions that still remains unanswered that you just beat your head against the wall 189 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,320 about. I mean, if you think about it, there are so many 190 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:00,200 credible eyewitnesses who report seeing these guys do things that point soundly towards them having 191 00:15:00,279 --> 00:15:03,759 to be supernatural. And then on the other hand, you have so many 192 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,159 incredible eyewitnesses too who report seeing these guys doing so many things to point soundly 193 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,799 towards these guys having to be flesh and blood. So wow, I don't 194 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,759 even really know what to think about. That is strange of as strange of 195 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,519 a creature as they are, and if anyone were to believe in parallel universes, 196 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,080 they possibly that doesn't necessarily make them supernatural. Being able to be in 197 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:37,320 more than one, you know, the universe at a time or plane. 198 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,600 So that's a possibility too, that they just come and go between two parallel 199 00:15:41,679 --> 00:15:46,440 universes, which means they have abilities above and beyond ours. That doesn't necessarily 200 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:50,559 make them supernatural, because if it's a natural thing that they can do, 201 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,679 then you know it's natural for them. Yeah, that's a good point. 202 00:15:56,399 --> 00:16:00,639 Yeah, that's very well said. I've got another question for you from the 203 00:16:00,639 --> 00:16:03,799 poolish mom. She wants to know what time was it when you saw them. 204 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:11,399 How close were they to an actual house where people live. I'd have 205 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,840 to think about that for just a second. The house, Well, they 206 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,720 were three hundred feet from the road, so there was a house right over 207 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:23,879 my shoulder, so they were three three hundred and fifty feet from a house 208 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,639 maybe that direction. And then the direction they were headed, they were probably, 209 00:16:30,559 --> 00:16:38,679 oh maybe five meters behind the house that was on the next road before 210 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:45,679 they crossed through the woods. I see, well that's pretty close then, 211 00:16:47,879 --> 00:16:52,159 Yeah, it is really close. Yeah, that is close. I've got 212 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,320 more of a comment than a question from c Phantom nine. They are or 213 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:03,039 in their comment to say, as Hi Vic from Experienced dog Man's body movement 214 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,240 seems to be more aligned regarding a supernatural aspect, really really fast. In 215 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:12,039 other words, what are your thoughts? Do they maybe manipulate our perception? 216 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,319 And the show was about Kim, so I'm going to throw that at you. 217 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,559 Kim, do you have any opinions on that? Well, since I 218 00:17:21,559 --> 00:17:26,720 don't believe they're supernatural, I mean, I really can't answer that. I 219 00:17:26,759 --> 00:17:30,680 know they move very swiftly because I know that when little Amber was in the 220 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,240 woods coming through the woods, I could hear her, but I didn't see 221 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:41,799 anything for a long time, and she was moving pretty fast. So as 222 00:17:41,799 --> 00:17:45,440 for the speed and that big one that I encountered when I was a teenage 223 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:51,960 girl, he moved really fast, really fast. So I understand what he's 224 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,680 saying. Yeah, it does make sense. When I read that, I 225 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,720 thought, Okay, I see where he's coming from. All right. The 226 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:07,519 next question is from HM five Y and they want to know was it a 227 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:12,920 family of dog men? You saw? There were five and they were varied 228 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,920 in size. I'm thinking they were a family. When I talked to Vic 229 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,519 originally about that, I asked him if that could be Amber's family. I 230 00:18:22,519 --> 00:18:26,640 think it was a family, I do. I mean, and like I 231 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,599 said, you know, they're making remarks about them not moving very fast, 232 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,599 but you know, the short distance they crossed in that minute wasn't that far 233 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,920 across. But they weren't moving fast. They were ambling along. And that 234 00:18:40,079 --> 00:18:42,599 kind of puts me in mind of a family at ease with each other. 235 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,480 Maybe maybe no pressure. Maybe they just didn't know where they were headed for 236 00:18:47,519 --> 00:18:49,839 sure, and we're kind of looking for a safe place to go. So 237 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:56,519 yeah, they seemed like a unified group, a family. That makes sense, 238 00:18:57,279 --> 00:19:03,519 all right. The next question for you is from Shira Lee, and 239 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:07,680 Shira Lee wants to know do you think dog men would bring their puffs to 240 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:14,319 see you? Oh, wouldn't that be great? Do I think they would 241 00:19:14,319 --> 00:19:17,839 bring their pups to see me? Well, they allowed a half grown pup 242 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:22,200 to be seen by me, so maybe I'll get to see some pups. 243 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:27,480 I definitely am on the outlook for them now. I'd love to see their 244 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,559 pups, but I don't know if they bring them to me. Well, 245 00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:36,680 at the at the rate you're going, you just might see some more puffs. 246 00:19:37,079 --> 00:19:38,720 Well, I guess Ember is not really a pup, But yeah, 247 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:41,799 like I said, at the rate you're going, they just might bring some 248 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:48,200 pups to you, it's hard to say. I wouldn't be surprised. Well, 249 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:56,799 the next question is from she and Michael Crisp with the West Coast dog 250 00:19:56,839 --> 00:20:02,119 Man Project, and she wants to know are there any native burial grounds or 251 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:11,960 reservations where you had your encounter? See there? Okay, this area does 252 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:18,000 have a lot of Indian history, specifically not to the area where they were, 253 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:23,599 but I do believe they thought they ran into some Indian burial grounds when 254 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:29,440 they were putting or putting in four thirty five. That's been years ago, 255 00:20:30,079 --> 00:20:33,279 that place that highway went in. Oh, I don't know, twenty five 256 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:38,519 years ago. And I do think they encountered some Indian burial grounds when they 257 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:44,359 were putting that in. Yeah, so yes, the answer is yes, 258 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,839 I guess yes. Yeah, that's a common thread amongst encounters. So good 259 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,759 question. Well, the next question is from a recent guest, Adolf Santa 260 00:20:55,839 --> 00:21:00,720 Stephen, and Adolph wants to know. Ad wants to know what and length 261 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:08,640 was their hair? Did dogs in the neighborhood bark at all? No? 262 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:19,519 No, it was that eerie loud silence, and they weren't not close enough 263 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:25,519 to me for me to note a variation in their hair color, but it 264 00:21:25,559 --> 00:21:29,039 appeared to be dark. They were all black or gray. I would I 265 00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:34,839 would think it would be my judgment on that, all right. The next 266 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:40,559 question is from miscreed Junkie, and they want to know what color were they? 267 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:53,319 Was the fur meat or matted? Oh kind of think of it. 268 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:59,160 It was a little messed up because I know the three smaller ones on all 269 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,880 fours and were dragging through that grass, so I would it was messed up. 270 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,160 They weren't all I mean they like I said, they were too far 271 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,279 away for me to note, like sticks and mud and things tangled to their 272 00:22:10,319 --> 00:22:12,319 hair, but they were. They were messed up. They weren't looking They 273 00:22:12,319 --> 00:22:18,279 didn't look like they came straight out of the salon this time. Well, 274 00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:21,920 when you consider how these guys make a living, that's not a surprise they 275 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:29,640 can't always look tidy. The next question is from Dan Lardino. I don't 276 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,359 know if you know the answer to this question, but he wants to know 277 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:38,119 how many types of dogmen are there. Well, from what I've gleaned from 278 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,119 just the shows and things I watch, three types. I'm not clear on 279 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:47,480 what the three types are exactly, but I know the third type is the 280 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,720 one that looks that has the more human looking legs and stands more upright, 281 00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:57,480 These guys were of either the first or second type. Vic D, can 282 00:22:57,519 --> 00:23:03,440 you answer that? Yeah, there are two main categories of dog men. 283 00:23:03,559 --> 00:23:07,559 You've got what I call canine type dog men, like the ones that you've 284 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,880 seen with the canid style legs. Then you have what people refer to as 285 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:17,799 type threes or googway. They have a hominid style legs and some of them 286 00:23:17,839 --> 00:23:22,799 have heads look kind of bad, boonish. But inside of both of those 287 00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:27,920 two main categories you have several multiple variants. So yeah, it's hard to 288 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,319 put a number, an exact number on how many types of dogmen there are, 289 00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,000 but yeah, there are tons of different types. I mean, I've 290 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:41,240 spoken with people over the years about probably the people I've spoken with that probably 291 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:48,640 had encounters with seven or eight variations of each of those two main categories. 292 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,160 So there are a lot of variances out there when it comes to dog men. 293 00:23:52,880 --> 00:24:00,200 But the next question is from Dire Wolf Dan, and Dan one wants 294 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,079 to know if one of the dog men were Imber, do you think she 295 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:11,279 trusts you Kim with seeing her pack? Well, if they have the capacity 296 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,920 of knowing that I'm close by. From what I've experienced, I would say 297 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:22,480 yes, and too. I don't think it's really up to her if the 298 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:26,759 pack shows himself to you or not. I mean, she's not really a 299 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,839 kid, but I think it's pretty safe to say that she doesn't call the 300 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:37,279 shots. No, but I'm saying if they if they know, and they 301 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,000 and when I saw Ember, if these guys were close around, then then 302 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:47,519 they would have they would have seen me too. Yeah, that's a good 303 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:52,000 point. The next question is from Victor Polucci. Vic wants to know how 304 00:24:52,039 --> 00:25:03,279 big were they? Okay, I'm just gonna hazard a guess here. The 305 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,880 two biggest ones were probably seven feet, and then there was one that was 306 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,680 maybe six feet, and then the other two or maybe five and four feet 307 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:18,960 because they were just exact stairsteps from the two biggest, and then the other 308 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:25,000 three got smaller. I'm sure that's a site that's never going to leave your 309 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:30,039 mind. No, definitely not. Yeah, I understand why. Well. 310 00:25:30,039 --> 00:25:34,359 The next question is from Spooney's World, and that question is what's the number 311 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,000 one piece of advice you'd give if you cross paths with a dog man? 312 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:48,319 I'd say peacefully back away or just go away. I mean, so far, 313 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,039 I've been on four rubber wheels when I've seen them, So my thing 314 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:57,119 would be just leave in a peaceful way. I have no intension of ever 315 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,279 engaging one, but I sure would stop to look if it was a safe 316 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,079 distance. Now that the experience I had with Ember was a surprise, I 317 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,200 really did not expect to see her when I stopped. She was just there 318 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,759 all of a sudden. Yeah, she kind of forced her hand on that 319 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,680 one. The next question is from dire Wolf Dan, and Dan wants to 320 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:30,400 know could Ember trust Kim with seeing her pupps when she has some Oh, 321 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,000 definitely she could trust me. I wouldn't tell a single soul. I would 322 00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:41,160 just tell her they were pretty and healthy, and she was lucky and going 323 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,960 about my business. Gosh, that would be something, Yes, it would 324 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,599 be. I don't think the word something really sums it up, does it. 325 00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:53,480 No? Not at all. No, it doesn't. And you wouldn't 326 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,720 believe all the questions pouring in Kim. Holy cow, we've got our hands 327 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:04,160 full here. Looks like the next question for us from c Phantom double O 328 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,759 nine and he says, Hi, Vic, what was the first thought and 329 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:15,839 or feeling during the encounter. Thank you. The current encounter, yes, 330 00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:21,319 was I just I just realized they were dog maned, and I said, 331 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:27,119 I'm going to stop. I'm going to stop and watch. I don't I 332 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,000 don't have a fear of them, especially at a distance like that. I 333 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,599 don't have an innate fear of them. I'm not stupid. I would never, 334 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,960 like I said, engage one, but it was. It's I considered 335 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,400 a privilege. They totally enthralled me and triggered me, and I will definitely 336 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:49,759 be looking for them from here on out. Well, I can understand why 337 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,920 three encounters in and who knows the many you might have in the future, 338 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,599 But at least you're having good encounters, relatively good encounters, so it could 339 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:06,000 definitely be a lot worse. All right. The next question is from method 340 00:28:06,079 --> 00:28:15,000 Unsound, and that question is do you think of I'm not going to ask 341 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:21,039 that question. We'll leave that one. I saw it asked. Let's see. 342 00:28:21,079 --> 00:28:26,200 The next question is from Sam Taylor, and that question is do you 343 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:33,799 think the dogman is responsible for some of the disappearances of missing people? I 344 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:38,079 think that's definitely possible, but only from the stories that I've listened to. 345 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:45,480 I definitely know by looking at them they have a capability, But so far 346 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:51,960 my encounters have been peaceful with these guys. And if I totally absorb and 347 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:56,400 decide that that's my opinion, then it's going to create a fear in me. 348 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,720 So I'm just going to leave that. Maybe it's one of the other 349 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:04,160 kinds. I don't know, or maybe it just depends. Just like us, 350 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:11,400 we defend our families, we defend our our homes, and I don't 351 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,599 know if one would be vicious and actually attack, But maybe there's just a 352 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,200 missen understanding. They are animals. As intelligent as they are, there's still 353 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,240 animals at this point. We don't know any different, So what are the 354 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,839 reasons for, you know, taking people? If that person is just in 355 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,359 the wrong place at the wrong time. It's kind of spooky when you think 356 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,839 about how some of those bodies are found. So, I mean, how 357 00:29:33,839 --> 00:29:37,200 do we know it's dog men? There's a lot of other things that could 358 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,559 be too. I'm on the dog man's side. I'm sorry. Well, 359 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,920 yeah, you've had three encounters that turned out to be pretty amicable, so 360 00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:51,440 yeah, I can understand why you would be even that first encounter with a 361 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,319 ten footer that across the road. Yeah, that really frightened you. But 362 00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,799 he never really did anything to seem aggressive or anything like that. So even 363 00:30:00,839 --> 00:30:04,359 that one wasn't an encounter with a dangerous dog me and what you could call 364 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,680 a dangerous dog me in So yeah, thank goodness, But you have to 365 00:30:10,359 --> 00:30:14,119 you have to realize that I thought I was looking at Satan as a sixteen 366 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,400 year old young lady. I that's what I thought I was seeing. I 367 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,799 didn't know what a dog man was. So yes, that was terrifying. 368 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:26,039 Well, yeah, yeah, that would terrify anyone. That's definitely understandable. 369 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,559 Well, the next question is from the Polish mom, and she wants to 370 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:38,519 know were you scared it all? No, not this time at all. 371 00:30:40,079 --> 00:30:42,599 Ember. I was a little bit scared because I didn't know what who else 372 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,160 was around this one. No, I had no reason to be scared. 373 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,400 They were too far away, they weren't noticing me, they were just going 374 00:30:49,440 --> 00:31:00,480 about their life. I was more just struck with awe than anything. Did 375 00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,440 bear her teeth at you? Also? So, I mean yes she did. 376 00:31:03,119 --> 00:31:07,160 She sure did. She buried her teeth at me. She decided I'd 377 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,440 looked at her long enough I think. I mean, who knows I just 378 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:14,960 left. I'm not. I'm too smart to try to, you know, 379 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:22,559 get it out in that. Don't blame you, all right. Have another 380 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,000 question from Timothy's self, and Tim wants to know have you ever felt threatened 381 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,200 with any dog me an encounter to the point you left your location? The 382 00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:37,680 first one, the first one I felt threatened. I wasn't threatened. He 383 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,640 didn't do anything. But yes, I insisted the driver of the truck leave 384 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:48,440 immediately because he he slowed down because he was in shock at what was crossing 385 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,680 the road, and he was going to just sit there, and I said, 386 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,319 no, let's go, go, go, get out of here. 387 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,599 Now. Yeah, definitely I left. It scared me to death. That 388 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,839 one scared me to death. When you see a ten foot dog man in 389 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,960 close proximity, yeah, that's gonna shake you up quite a bit. That's 390 00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:12,519 natural. Well. The next question is from Jamie Cope, and Jamie wants 391 00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,440 to know, Hi, Kim, did you see them walk by pedal lee 392 00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:20,079 or on all fours? Did you see them transition from four to two legs? 393 00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:27,200 And did you hear any sounds when they did? Okay, these guys, 394 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,400 I did see them stand up. Two of them were bipedal. The 395 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,359 three smaller ones originally were down in the grass on all fours, but they 396 00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:38,960 as they progressed across the field, they all stood up. That's how I 397 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,960 saw them, or five of them. Now, Ember, she started to 398 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,519 get she started to she was upright when I first saw her. She started 399 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:51,519 to go down at all fours and then stood back up. I didn't hear 400 00:32:51,559 --> 00:32:58,599 any popping or any noises. No, yeah, at that distance, I 401 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:04,599 don't know how you could. Well the name let's talk about Amber. Well, 402 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,799 you still you're in your car, and she wasn't right on top of 403 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,400 you, but there was a little bit of distance, so it still might 404 00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,079 have been hard to hear. I didn't hear any And it was Wendy that 405 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,880 day too, very Wendy. Yeah, that doesn't help. Well. The 406 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,960 next question is from a pure normal quest with ANNG and she wants to know 407 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:34,480 do you think that Cuba Capra and the dog Man are related? The Bloodsucker? 408 00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:37,599 Oh no, no, I don't. I don't think they're related at 409 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:45,000 all. I think they're two separate cryptids, all right. The next question 410 00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,960 is from the Polish mom. She wants to know who do you think would 411 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,480 win a battle dog me in her big foot. I think it would probably 412 00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:59,559 depend on the age, the size of the experience of the particular creatures. 413 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,440 I can't judge on that one. Yeah, that's a pick on me. 414 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,440 Think about it. An adult Chihuahua could be a two week old Rottwiler, 415 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:16,000 So yeah, it just depends. There's so many variables. And please remember 416 00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:20,199 everyone, if you have any questions, please remember to type them in all 417 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,280 caps. That way I won't miss them, all right. The next question 418 00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:29,519 is from C. Phantom W nine. He says, Hi, Vic, 419 00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,639 where do you think Dogman prefers to lay down to rest caves? Dens, 420 00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:37,599 trees? Thanks? Well, tonight's show is all about Kim, it's not 421 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,119 about me. I want to direct that to Kim. Do you have any 422 00:34:40,119 --> 00:34:49,559 opinions on that. In the area that I've encountered them recently, there aren't 423 00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:54,119 any well, there aren't any caves. The only caves in this area, 424 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,280 even the natural ones, have been taken over by mint, by mint and 425 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,840 by man to be made into cold storage. So I'd say they're probably having 426 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,039 to bed down in the field somewhere. But then there's you know, there's 427 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:12,760 Interstate seven and tunnels. I mean Interstate four thirty five, and well there's 428 00:35:13,079 --> 00:35:16,840 there's K seven too. We have two highways that have tunnels, so that's 429 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:24,559 a possibility too, all right. This next question is kind of related to 430 00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:29,840 the last one, but it's from a different person. This one is from 431 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,320 a paranormal quest with a g and and you wants to know, Hi, 432 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,760 Kim, do you think they live in cave systems? And do you think 433 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:45,800 they use them to move unseen? I just answered that one. There aren'ty 434 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:53,079 cave systems in this area for me to think about that particular topic. Like 435 00:35:53,119 --> 00:36:00,159 I said, though, there are lots of tunnels or you know, water 436 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:06,039 man made waterways underneath the highways, but they're only about a mile from the 437 00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:09,840 Kansas River where I'm seeing them, so there may be something down along that 438 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:16,039 area that they can utilize to hide in or traversed along the river too. 439 00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:20,280 That's not a good answer. I didn't give a very good answer, but 440 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,719 that's what I think. Well, it's kind of a tough question, kind 441 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:29,760 of hard to answer. This next question is from Lance, and Lance wants 442 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,000 to know and what capacity would you camp with small children? Knowing what you 443 00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:39,960 know about dog men, it would have to be a very populated campground, 444 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:45,440 I mean lots of people. Otherwise not No, I wouldn't camp with small 445 00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:52,159 children. Yeah, when you know these guys are out there, he definitely 446 00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:55,679 does change the complexion of camping. So I can understand why you would say 447 00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,159 that. But two think about it, camp all the time with their kids, 448 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:06,760 small kids and don't have any problems. Of course some people do, 449 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,599 but yeah, that's definitely the exception and not the rule. So yeah, 450 00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:15,280 people they rub elbows figuratively. They rub elbows with these guys all the time 451 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,280 on camping trips, when they hike, when they fish, and don't have 452 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,760 any trouble. So if you want to go fishing, if you want to 453 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:28,719 go camping, live your life. Of course, take the proper precautions, 454 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,599 don't be foolish about it. But yeah, I mean, I hope you 455 00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:36,320 just focus on living your lives and you don't let this paralyze you, the 456 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,079 knowledge that these guys are out there paralyze you, because if you do, 457 00:37:39,559 --> 00:37:43,760 it really would be a shame. If you're talking about an eyewitness who's had 458 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,360 an encounter or encounters with a dog meannor dog men. Yes, understandable that 459 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,599 it would take time to get back out there, and I wouldn't want them 460 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,480 to rush back out there. You know, all good time, not too 461 00:37:54,559 --> 00:38:00,239 much weight on a young back. But ultimately, if you can bring yourself 462 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,480 to getting back out there and doing the things that you love to do, 463 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,480 that should be the end goal. If you think you can muster doing that. 464 00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:14,719 But the next question for you is from mystery Junkie, and they want 465 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,559 to know did any of them have tails? If so, were they a 466 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:28,360 long short bush here thin. I don't recall if the ones crossing the field 467 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,960 had tails or not. I didn't take that in. I was not looking 468 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,320 for that. If they did, I may not have been able to see 469 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,960 them because of the height of the grass. But Ember had a tail. 470 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,480 Yeah, you're doing good to take in all the details you did. When 471 00:38:45,519 --> 00:38:50,199 I've had eyewitnesses come on the show, I've had some come on that we're 472 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,800 pretty good at throwing details out there, recalling things about the dog men or 473 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:58,320 dog man they saw. But you have to really give it to Kim here. 474 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,280 I mean, she is spot on when it comes to putting those details 475 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,719 out there, organizing them in a way that it's easy to understand and picture 476 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,280 what she experienced. You've got to give her a lot of credit. She's 477 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,760 really good at doing that. I'm impressed. Well, Kim, I'm wondering 478 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,800 how close were you to home when you had this most recent experience. Well, 479 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,239 it was about a mile from where I saw amber, so I was 480 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:29,559 right about three and a half miles. Three and a half miles. I 481 00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:36,559 see. Well, let's see. You've got another question for you from c 482 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:43,960 Phantom nine, and that question is any comments regarding dog man's behavior when cameras 483 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,440 are present and during the night with illuminated areas. Do you know anything about 484 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:55,360 that? No? No, I don't know. I don't know anything about 485 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,920 the cameras. I not had any experience with that. Sorry. Oh no, 486 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,519 that's not your fault. I mean you're not a dog man researcher, 487 00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,480 so how could you answer that question? No, I'm not a dog man 488 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:15,760 researcher. I'm a dog man. Spot that's right, that you are looks 489 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,800 like I have part two to Jamie Coop's question, and that is do you 490 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,960 think that dog men have a thicker hide more like a cow with long hair 491 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:29,920 for protection? Yes, I do agree with that. I do think they 492 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,960 have a longer, thicker hair, it would make sense for them to have 493 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:37,599 that protection from the environment of the weather anyway, to keep them warmer if 494 00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:44,559 they're out out in the different temperatures, keep them warm in the summer or 495 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:50,559 warm in the winter and cooler in the summer. They're definitely well adapted for 496 00:40:50,599 --> 00:40:54,239 their environment. And there have been eye witnesses kim who have had an encounter 497 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,440 or encounters and they're terrified at the idea of having another one. Well, 498 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,199 there's been nights where it's been nasty out, or days when the weather is 499 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:09,079 just nasty cold, bitter cold, and it's snowing and blowing and no one, 500 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:13,119 no thing, and it's right, mind would be out, you would 501 00:41:13,119 --> 00:41:20,079 think, But they have encounters with dog men still, So anyone listening, 502 00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:22,119 if you're in a situation where you think you might have dogmen around your home, 503 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,320 or you might be in an area where dogmen are, don't think for 504 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,079 a second that just because it's so nasty out that dog men might not be 505 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,679 out and about making a living, Because yeah, they have been seen even 506 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,440 on the roughest of nights or days when it comes to weather, doesn't seem 507 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,960 to really deter them at all. If they're going to want to get out. 508 00:41:42,679 --> 00:41:45,039 They're going to get out, and that's all there is to it. 509 00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:51,519 Well, the next question for you is from Mystery Junkie, and that question 510 00:41:51,760 --> 00:42:00,840 is what color were Ember's eyes? The brightest gold? It's like they were 511 00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:12,880 on fire. That's where she got her name Amber. I can only imagine 512 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,719 what it must have been like to look into those highs. Wow. All 513 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,719 right. The next question is from Sira Lee, and that question is do 514 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,840 they ever come to your home? They haven't so far. It's not that 515 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:35,800 I don't expect it now. I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Well, 516 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,800 they might, but I don't know. That's left to be seen. 517 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:44,400 I doubt that they will. I've put this out there before on other shows 518 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:50,000 I've done. You've got all these people who fall for this whole novelty when 519 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,559 it comes to dog men. I want to have a Doggian encounter. I 520 00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:54,320 want to have a dog in the encounter. So they do all these things 521 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:59,440 to put themselves in positions to try and have an encounter, and on more 522 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,599 occasion than one, when they ultimately do have an encounter, they fall to 523 00:43:02,679 --> 00:43:06,960 pieces. I mean, I had a guy recently, not too long ago, 524 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:08,760 contact me he's a dog mean researcher, or I said he was a 525 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:14,159 dog mean researcher, and he's crying to me for help because he was going 526 00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:16,800 to an area where he believed a dog me in to be holding up making 527 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:22,079 a living. And now Vic helped me that dog me in that I've been 528 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:25,119 researching. He followed me home. So basically, this dog me and flipped 529 00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:29,840 the script, and instead of you going out there to research him in his 530 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,519 home, here returned the favor. He's coming to your home, I guess 531 00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:37,400 to research you. So anyone out there listening who's got it in their mind 532 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,239 that they want to go out and they've got to have this encounter, be 533 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:45,039 careful what you wish for, because it ain't no fun when the rabbit gets 534 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:49,119 a gun. I didn't say I wanted it. I said I wouldn't be 535 00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:52,039 surprised if it happened. No, you did it, But I'm putting it 536 00:43:52,039 --> 00:43:55,480 out there for people that do want to have incount. I know I'm right, 537 00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:00,639 Oh no, but it still wouldn't surprise me. No surprise me. 538 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,800 Probably terrify me, but it wouldn't surprise me at all. Yeah. Well, 539 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,719 in the areas I've seen them they're very populated. Well, like I 540 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,599 said, I real hope it never does happen. I hope they never do 541 00:44:12,679 --> 00:44:15,599 pay you a visit. I don't need it. I think i'd have to 542 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:22,199 move understandably. So yeah, that does tend to change things. Well. 543 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:28,519 The next question for you is from Patrick Reagan or Reagan, and this question 544 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:37,920 is did Ember have any sort of facial expression? Oh? Definitely, she 545 00:44:38,119 --> 00:44:45,840 was making faces at me the whole few seconds that she stood there. She 546 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:52,559 was a sassy little thing, wasn't she. Yeah, she was, definitely, 547 00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:59,159 she was totally. She is not what I would expect my experience of 548 00:44:59,199 --> 00:45:01,400 a dog man to be at all, if I was going to have one. 549 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,400 This is not at all what I would have expected. Yeah, when 550 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,880 you described how she was carrying on, yeah, I was thinking, I've 551 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:15,440 never heard of an encounter like that. But I mean it does make sense, 552 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,000 her being young and all that, for her to act that way, 553 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,159 I guess, so, Yeah, that must have been quite a sight to 554 00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:28,480 see. Well. The next question for you is from Ad Santa Stephen and 555 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:34,719 AD's question is does ever have a pair of breasts or more like a dog's? 556 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,599 They remind me more of like a dog's but she wasn't completely developed either. 557 00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:46,400 They were kind of small and soft, they weren't they It just made 558 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,199 sense to me she wasn't completely developed, but she could definitely see them. 559 00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:59,519 But no, they weren't human looking, all right. Well, the next 560 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:02,199 question is from the Polish mom, and she wants to know if you told 561 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,880 your family that you saw a dog men. If yes, did they believe 562 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:13,159 you the first one I saw? Yes, I've told my entire family. 563 00:46:14,199 --> 00:46:19,320 I've tried to explain Ember's appearance to my son, and I think he believes 564 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,360 me, but I also think he's a little bit larry of believing in something 565 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,039 like that. Of course, I've told my mother and she just kind of 566 00:46:29,039 --> 00:46:34,199 looks at me. This last, these last guys, I haven't told anybody 567 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,280 about yet. It takes me a little while to work up the courage to 568 00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,920 tell anybody. Well, that's not easy to do. I can understand why. 569 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,559 And you never know, your mom. Sometime down the road she might 570 00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,880 have an encounter of her own, and yeah, that should make her change 571 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:53,320 her tune. So as many as many deer as she has on our property, 572 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,679 it definitely wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, that would make sense. And 573 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,960 by the way everyone in the live chat. These are really good questions tonight. 574 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,119 Yeah, keep up the great work. And like I said earlier, 575 00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:09,440 if you have any questions for Kim, then yeah, please be sure to 576 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,360 type them in all caps. Well, the next question for you is from 577 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,360 Spooney's World, and that question is who was the first person you told about 578 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:25,039 Ember and did they believe you? The first person I told about Ember was 579 00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:29,800 a friend of mine at work, and from the expression on her face, 580 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:36,199 she didn't believe me. It was like, sure, oh boy, she 581 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:43,039 knows better. Yeah, yeah, one of those people. Well see it 582 00:47:43,079 --> 00:47:46,599 for what it is. That's just her ignorance. She is entitled to it. 583 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,239 She can think whatever she wants. But yeah, we know that. 584 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,199 I know. But since her and I have a lot of the other beliefs 585 00:47:53,199 --> 00:47:58,079 in common, which we won't go into here, I thought she'd be accepting, 586 00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:01,159 but I'm not sure she was. Yeah, well you'll have that. 587 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:07,840 Well, I've got another great question for you from Timothy's self, and Tim 588 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,400 wants to know do you think Imber knew you were a female? Also? 589 00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:16,599 Yes, I do. I do. I think she did. I think 590 00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:20,199 she knew. I don't know why I think that or how I know that, 591 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,440 but yeah, I'm pretty sure she knew that I was a female woman. 592 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:28,039 Yes, female human, I mean female I female human. Yes, 593 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:32,360 she knew that. All right. I've got a question here. It's not 594 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,960 in all cavs. Almost missed it because of that, but it's another good 595 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:42,679 question from Lily Lewis, and that question is did you hear any kind of 596 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,920 mind speak or did you get any kind of message from her? You know, 597 00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:53,079 I wondered about that. I think I did. I think I did. 598 00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:00,519 I think I did, because it was like, it's kind of like, 599 00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:04,400 what are you looking at her? You know, why are you looking 600 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,400 at me like that? Something like that. But it was kind of that 601 00:49:07,519 --> 00:49:13,599 was an afterthought because I had that thought go through my mind that she's saying 602 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,679 why are you looking at me like that? Or why are you still here? 603 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,480 Or something like that. But that was an afterthought because I at first 604 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:27,480 I thought that I was putting a caption. I was speaking to myself and 605 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,840 putting a caption to her facial expressions. But it could have been that, 606 00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:39,840 it really could have all right. The next question is from Stephen why shopped? 607 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:45,440 And Stephen wants to know whereas question is, Hi, guys, how 608 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,840 tall was emb About five feet? I'm five feet three and I'd say she 609 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:59,039 was about five feet. Yeah, she was young then, all right. 610 00:49:59,159 --> 00:50:02,920 The next question is from Patrick Reagan, and that question is have you had 611 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,639 any dreams about dog men or dog women after the incident? Yes? I 612 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:15,920 have. I've had a few tussles in my in my mind at night about 613 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:24,559 the amber thing, and it was because of my fear of her dad, 614 00:50:24,599 --> 00:50:29,280 brother, mat, partner, whatever being around and discovering me sitting there looking 615 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:35,119 at her. Yes, I had a few, a few disturbing dreams of 616 00:50:35,199 --> 00:50:39,320 that style. Well, when you have an experience, like any of these 617 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,800 experiences you've had, it's only natural that you're going to dream about them. 618 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:51,000 So yeah, that shouldn't surprise anyone that you had those dreams, all right. 619 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,440 The next question is from Jamie Cope, and Jamie wants to know, 620 00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,159 Kim, were you able to go back later and check for tracks. I 621 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,880 did not go back and check for tracks. I did go back. I've 622 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,159 been down that road several times, just looking at the lay of the land 623 00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:14,960 and the woods and considering the houses around there, and just because I can't 624 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,960 when I go through that area, that's what fills my mind is they're here, 625 00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:22,599 and this is where they are. I did not go back and look 626 00:51:22,639 --> 00:51:24,840 for tracks. No. If I had scrambled down the road, I might 627 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,280 at the side of the road. I might have not been able to get 628 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,519 back up the road. I am an older lady, I'm sixty five, 629 00:51:31,039 --> 00:51:37,000 So no, I did not. Well too, if you would have gone 630 00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:39,719 back to look for tracks, what would you have done if you turned around 631 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,480 and nimbers are holding the bucket ready to pour the plaster into the prince and 632 00:51:44,519 --> 00:51:47,360 all that wouldn't be good. Well, there's no place to park the car 633 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:52,480 either. There's no shoulders, and it's very curvy. It would have been 634 00:51:52,519 --> 00:51:55,719 dangerous if another car had come along. Yeah, sounds like it must have 635 00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:00,360 been or it would have been all right. I eight. The next question 636 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:02,960 is I'm not sure if this is a question. Yeah, I guess it 637 00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:07,400 is a question, but I don't understand it. It's from Helen Keenan. 638 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:10,599 Can you clarify this for me? Helen? It reads Hi, Vic and 639 00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:15,920 Kim is dog men related? And then I see a tee. I'm not 640 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:21,360 sure what you're asking here. She was thinking if those guys were related, 641 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,880 I think, and I my fantasy about that group, is that Yes, 642 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:32,079 they're Amber and her family. I see, Okay, yeah, that makes 643 00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:37,679 sense. The next question is from Trey, maybe the third, and Trey's 644 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:42,880 question is have you ever tried to feed her and tried capturing a picture? 645 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:51,280 No, I would not have been foolish enough to try to feed her, 646 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,480 And yes I thought about the picture, but after the fact, I couldn't 647 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,280 have scrambled to get my phone fast enough to take a picture of her. 648 00:52:58,519 --> 00:53:02,559 And besides, it was a very short encounter and I wanted the pictures in 649 00:53:02,639 --> 00:53:07,960 my mind. So no, I didn't take a picture. Can you imagine 650 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,000 that if you would have scrambled for your phone to try and snap a photo, 651 00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:15,119 and you're looking down at your lap to get your phone out or wherever 652 00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:17,400 your phone is, and you look up and she's gone. You missed, 653 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:22,719 however, many seconds of observing this amazing creature, all because you're focused on 654 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,800 trying to get that million dollar picture of it or her. That would have 655 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:37,400 been horrible. Yeah, but I had her picture forever burned into my mind's 656 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,000 eye. It's just amazing. I consider it's such a privilege to be ables 657 00:53:40,039 --> 00:53:44,800 here and nobody else has seen anything like her. That I know of so 658 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,639 I was the lucky one exactly. You've got that picture in your mind's eye. 659 00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:55,119 Yeah, that's the best picture there is. All right. The next 660 00:53:55,199 --> 00:54:00,280 question, I guess it's a comment is from sugar Moon Guard and she says, 661 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,639 sorry, I didn't realize I needed to do all caps till now, 662 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,320 So beer spray as a deterrent, And that's all right. I'll forgive you 663 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:15,280 for not realizing you needed to do all caps, but unfortunately there is a 664 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,599 twenty dollars fine. I do accept cash check a charge Sugarmoon Garden, So 665 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,159 yeah, see me after the show and I'll collect that way. But as 666 00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:28,920 far as their question goes, do you believe in using beer spray as a 667 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:36,039 deterrent? Kim? If I were going to go into any wooded area for 668 00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:39,360 a period of time, I would probably carry bear spray just for my safety 669 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:45,320 in general. Hopefully you'd never have to use it on a dog man, 670 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:51,559 because there are so many instances where I believe a dog man is just trying 671 00:54:51,559 --> 00:54:53,920 to bluff charge you or get a response out of you. But if you 672 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,039 do something like shoot a dog mean, or use beer spray on a dog 673 00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:00,719 man and it actually injures the dog man or it hurts the dog man. 674 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,559 There is a difference between being hurt and injured. If you do either one, 675 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,239 I mean, who knows how they're going to respond to that, So 676 00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:14,519 you hopefully will never come to that. If you remember earlier, I had 677 00:55:14,519 --> 00:55:17,000 a question what would I do? And I just said that I would peacefully 678 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:25,320 try to back away and leave. I wouldn't want to harm them. Oh, 679 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,760 of course you wouldn't. But there are people out there who if they 680 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,880 had some bear spray on their hip or a ten millimeter pistol on their hip, 681 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,639 they think they're ready to go. And if they do have a dog 682 00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:38,320 in any counter, that's the first thing they're going to do is to reach 683 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:43,119 for that bear spray or that pistol. So, yeah, you wouldn't fall 684 00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:47,400 into that trap, but there are plenty of people who would unfortunately. All 685 00:55:47,559 --> 00:55:55,039 Right, The next question is from c Phantom Double nine, and that question 686 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,920 is Hi, Kim. Did anything stand out in regards to how they interacted 687 00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:09,119 with each other in their surroundings? Thanks? I think that maybe where they 688 00:56:09,199 --> 00:56:15,360 were walking across they felt they were pretty camouflaged. I know, the hill, 689 00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:16,519 it went up the hill, they were just at the top of the 690 00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:21,719 hill and the hill went down the other side. I think maybe they just 691 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,079 thought they were crossing in a safe space, and that's not a very wide 692 00:56:25,159 --> 00:56:31,480 field, so they may have chose that crossing area for a reason, all 693 00:56:31,599 --> 00:56:37,599 right. The next question is from the Polish mom and her question is do 694 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:44,800 you think dog men can physically hurt you? Or are or is all that 695 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:51,880 they want to do is to scare you off to death. I think that 696 00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:54,519 their first intention is to scare you. I feel if they wanted to, 697 00:56:54,559 --> 00:57:01,519 they could definitely hurt you. Yes, they most definitely could if they want 698 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:07,920 to. You're right. Well. The next question is from Helen Keenan, 699 00:57:07,039 --> 00:57:13,280 and Helen wants to know, Hi, Vic and Kim are dogmen related to 700 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,679 Anubis? And do they cloak and go invisible? Where do they come from? 701 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,119 I'm not sure if you know the answers to those questions. I'm not 702 00:57:21,159 --> 00:57:24,840 too sure I know the answers to those questions. Well. I know back 703 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:30,960 in history that there are several theories of dog style people, and there is 704 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:37,559 more than one god in the world that has a doghead, and there are 705 00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:45,000 ancient stories about people in like Siberia and a few other countries that have encountered 706 00:57:45,039 --> 00:57:50,400 dog style people in the mountains, that's historical. But as far as them 707 00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:54,480 wearing a cloak, no, and becoming invisible. That those the cloak and 708 00:57:54,519 --> 00:58:02,519 the invisibility. That sounds like Harry Potter. Huh, Harry Potter. All 709 00:58:02,679 --> 00:58:07,119 right. The next question is from Liance and he wants to know, Kim, 710 00:58:07,159 --> 00:58:10,480 why do you think the government covers up the existence of dog men? 711 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,599 Why do they cover? Well, they cover Look at everything else they cover 712 00:58:16,719 --> 00:58:20,360 up. They cover it up for the same reason. This is too deep 713 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,920 of a theory for you to want to know. My opinion, I think 714 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,000 they hide a lot of things from us. I have my I could give 715 00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:30,000 you a two hour speech on that subject, so I'll just leave it at 716 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:36,599 that. Yeah, there's a lot that goes into answering that question. All 717 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:42,119 right. The next question is from Lily Lewis and she wants to know do 718 00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:46,960 you feel connected to Imber to her in her clan? Now, you know 719 00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:53,719 that's a funny question because she is always in my mind. I just she 720 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:58,679 just splashes in my mind from time to time. So I haven't quite figured 721 00:58:58,719 --> 00:59:04,239 that out yet. I know there's a possibility that they form some kind of 722 00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,480 a strange relationship to you, and that goes into a supernatural thing again. 723 00:59:07,559 --> 00:59:14,679 But I feel like we can have telepathic relationships with human beings, So it 724 00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,679 is possible that that possibly she's marked me. I don't know. That's a 725 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,679 very up in the air question. I kind of have my own ideas about 726 00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:30,159 that that aren't completely formed yet. All right, very well said. The 727 00:59:30,199 --> 00:59:35,000 next one is from the Polish mom and she wants to know. You've also 728 00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:39,000 mentioned that you've been listening to different dog meat encounters. Which encounter did you 729 00:59:39,039 --> 00:59:45,960 find to be the most frightening? Well, I listened to more than one 730 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:51,000 channel, mixed channel. Is that the only one I listened to? Some 731 00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:58,159 of the more terrifying ones for reasons don't even sound real. They sound made 732 00:59:58,199 --> 01:00:06,039 up, and none of them been on the show exactly. Do you really 733 01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:08,719 think people would do that just to make a buck him? Yes, I 734 01:00:08,719 --> 01:00:16,039 do. Yeah, unfortunately some people would. All right, this isn't a 735 01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:21,519 question, but it's more of a comment. It's from Kristin Dolishall and Kristen 736 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:23,800 says, Hello, Vic and Kim, thanks so much for the live stream. 737 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:28,159 I'm really enjoying listening to them. Well, when you have great guests 738 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,400 like Kim and Kai and Brian Tyrrell last night. I mean, how can 739 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,519 you go wrong. I'm so glad you like listening to the show, and 740 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,960 you know I'll do the best I can to keep from coming alright. The 741 01:00:40,039 --> 01:00:46,320 next question would be from Helen Keenan and her question is our dogman related to 742 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:52,519 a NEWBIS. I think that's already been asked. Yeah, we already covered 743 01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:58,360 that. We've covered that. So the next question would be from Sheryl Lee, 744 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,320 and she wants to know have you thought about having a sketch done over? 745 01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:08,119 I have thought about that. I haven't quite figured out who to use 746 01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:13,320 for it. I have several friends that are very good at sketching, I 747 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:21,280 just haven't I have to tell them the story first before I find somebody. 748 01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,400 Yeah, easier said than done. I do know a great sketch artist. 749 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,719 If you ever decided something that you definitely want to do, then yeah, 750 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,480 let me know and I'm sure I could get that set up for you. 751 01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:37,480 Okay, Yeah, I think that would be really easy to do, all 752 01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:43,880 right. The next question is I guess it's kind of related to that last 753 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,920 one you just answered from Patrick Reagan. His question is have you been able 754 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,320 to contact a forensic artist to draw a sketch. Harvey Pratt comes to mind, 755 01:01:52,719 --> 01:02:00,559 you use a talented sketch artist. Definitely. Well, let's see. 756 01:02:00,719 --> 01:02:04,920 The next question would be from Spooney's world, and that is, are dog 757 01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:13,159 men perhaps related to the four to one one missing people? That theory is 758 01:02:13,239 --> 01:02:19,599 out there, but I don't I haven't received enough evidence for my own personal 759 01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:25,800 decision. That definitely that's what's going on. I hope that's not the case. 760 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:30,239 You just imagine if there are dogmen out there snatching people. It wouldn't 761 01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:36,159 surprise me if you do have some dangerous dogmen out there doing that. But 762 01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:42,000 yeah, I mean, look the thousands upon thousands of dogmen eyewitnesses I've spoken 763 01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:45,559 with over the years. I mean, how many of them were caught dead 764 01:02:45,639 --> 01:02:51,880 to rights? I mean absolutely dead rights and compromising situations where if the dogmen 765 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:55,320 they encountered leaning over top of them, and in cases were you know, 766 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:59,559 they weren't leaning over top of them, but they could have caught them in 767 01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:02,079 dispatch them if they wanted to do that, but they didn't do that because 768 01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:07,800 they didn't want to do that. So yeah, this idea that floats around 769 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,840 out there that these guys will snatch you up and kill you as soon as 770 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,159 look at you. That can't be true. I know it sells seats, 771 01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:21,320 it fills seats for shows to make up stories about the flesh eating dog man 772 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,239 and all this stuff. But yeah, if that's how they were programmed to 773 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,360 be, that is, some are dangerous, but as a whole, if 774 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,000 that's how they were as a whole, then yeah, my experiences definitely wouldn't 775 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:37,360 be the way they have been with all the eyewitnesses, so please keep that 776 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:45,280 in mind, all right. The next question would be from HM five Y 777 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:52,960 and their question is do you think dogmen migrate? Oh? Definitely, I 778 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:58,400 really do think they. I think they migrate, and the reason being is 779 01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:05,320 the areas that I've seen my recent encounters. And I've been driving those roads 780 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:11,519 for since i was sixteen years old, and this is the first time I've 781 01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:17,039 ever noticed them. So I think the group that I'm seeing is new to 782 01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,639 the area, or you know, they may be staying here permanently or be 783 01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:25,199 passing through. But I just think that I would have seen them before. 784 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:30,039 I really do, because I'm very observant about, you know, when I 785 01:04:30,119 --> 01:04:35,199 drive, Maybe because of that big guy I saw when I was sixteen, 786 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,159 So the side of the roads and the fields have always been something I'd pay 787 01:04:40,199 --> 01:04:43,079 attention to. So yeah, I think they I do. I think they 788 01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:49,079 migrate. He just might be right about that, all right. The next 789 01:04:49,159 --> 01:04:55,480 question is from C. Phantom W nine, and their question is Hi Kim, 790 01:04:55,519 --> 01:05:03,679 considering the UAP the unidentif unidentified aerial phenomena, do you believe there's a 791 01:05:03,719 --> 01:05:08,960 connection to dogmy in sightings? Does anything out of the ordinary come to your 792 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:17,320 mind? Thank you? There haven't been any unusual aerial occurrences in this area 793 01:05:17,519 --> 01:05:21,400 recently. I know there have been some, but nothing recently, and nothing 794 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:30,920 that I've been made aware of or experienced myself. I do know that that 795 01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:35,199 is a common theory, So what I know about that is just what I've 796 01:05:36,079 --> 01:05:44,480 learned from other people in other stories. All right. The next one is 797 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,920 from John Wayne. I don't think it's a real John Wayne, but nonetheless 798 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:56,079 it reads what do you make of them being used in government breeding programs? 799 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:01,800 If that's going on? Of course that has been worried because what's the purpose 800 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:09,320 behind it? If it is the reality? Yeah, that's a good point. 801 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:14,599 That is a good point. Well, I think we're about out of 802 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,719 questions, so we can get ready to get out of here. Before we 803 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,960 do, I just want to thank you so much for coming on and not 804 01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:26,280 only telling us about your experience, this most recent one, but also taking 805 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,719 the time to answer all these questions from the listeners. Kim, I really 806 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:34,559 appreciate it. You're welcome, Vick, I really do. And for the 807 01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:40,679 listeners, if you have any encounters that you need help with, it doesn't 808 01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:43,400 matter if you want to be a guest on the show or not. If 809 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,039 you want to be a guest, we can definitely do that, but that's 810 01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:49,559 never a requirement. It's really easy to set up a conversation with me. 811 01:06:49,639 --> 01:06:54,880 All you need to do is just to go to Dogmancounters dot com submit a 812 01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:59,639 report, and if you do that, then I'll contact you. I'll schedule 813 01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:02,960 a phone conversation with you, and that way we can talk about your experience 814 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,920 and and find out what's giving you trouble or or just get worked out. 815 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,159 But having said that, thanks again so much for your time, Kim, 816 01:07:12,239 --> 01:07:31,840 and I hope you have a great night. Byevick, take care bye.