Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. Oh boy,
hey, how you doing. We're dealing with the sixth sense today, intuition,
premonition, and all the different frequencies allowed and that make it up.
And that's intouition in a nutshell. And what's fascinating about intuition is that it's
part of our human condition, physical condition. It is tapping in to a
vast array of guidance, a vast array of sensory perception. And what we're
going to learn about today is that we need to use it more. Our
ancestors were very much in tune with intuition because they didn't have the interference of
television, the Internet, the iPhone, Wi Fi streaming media and everything that
interferes with our subtle conscious awareness. I think that and I'm at fault of
this too, the fact that we carry this mini computer connected to the Wi
Fi wherever we go, and I mean, I mean, I'm in Egypt,
I'm in Mexico, I'm in different parts of Europe, I'm traveling,
and I go everywhere with my mini computer, which is my Apple iPhone.
And it's a problem. And I've talked about this and I've talked about how
it's blocking my subtle perception. You know, rather than taking in the air,
taking in the surroundings, I'm staring at my damn phone. And this
is a huge problem. And so today's program is very, very, very
timely in that this is a resource. Intuition, our sixth sense is extremely
important not only to get subtle data, but also to connect with our ancestors,
to connect with our departed family and in that case, the elders.
There's a lot that comes through when we are paying attention to intuition, little
voices, nudges, sounds. We can also talk about some of the dreams
that come through that have an intuitive kind of theme to them. And I'm
again I'm also you know, tooting my own horn on the fact that I
don't pay enough attention to this. And it's huge when it comes to relationships,
you know, should I hang with this person or not? If it's
a if it's an intimate relationship, is this gonna work out? Are those
subtle notions are what we call red flags? Are they worth passing through and
going to the other side? Uh? Is there something about this person I
should be paying attention to? This goes through work as well. You know,
is this job satisfying? I'm making good money, but am I dragging
my guts home every night? Because I'm just so angry. I'm frustrated because
I don't like my work, I don't like the people I work with,
I hate my bots. Are there subtle signals? Are there? Subtle subtle
uh messages that my higher self is telling me? And this is what I've
come to discover is that although we're embody and we're interacting with others who are
in body, there are a huge range of unseen, unknown frequencies that we
pass into in nature and on ancient at ancient sites, at special places,
it can be called sacred places. There are energies that we can some in
some cases know that we're activating, and in other times they activate an early
warning dangerous people, situations where you can get hurt or someone's you know,
wants to hurt you. Positive you know, this is something I want to
do. You know, is this road safe? Is this interaction safe?
And there's a little hints, little bits and pieces of data known as intuition.
So our ancestors used it with much more effectiveness and clarity because they didn't
have this interference, you know, and I'm really you know, as I'm
talking, and I've mentioned this before, it's really becoming a serious problem that
we carry around these mini computers. Not only are they belching out electro frequencies
that are damaging and I'm learning about this myself, the microwave fields that are
generated by these cell phones and the towers are really really bad. And I'm
trying. I'm trying to learn to put my phone away. Used to be
in my nights, my knight stand, but are laying on my bed because
I was, you know, wanted to pick up messages, but not a
good thing. And we don't want to block intuition. We don't want to
block the signals on all different scales that are coming through to us. So
you know, keep that phone away when you're sleep, trying to reduce your
usage of it because there are subtle frequencies that are trying to penetrate your brain
and communicate with you. And you know, I may sound like I'm a
shaman, like a shamanistic point of view, and there are aspects of intuition
that can delve into shaman shaman's profile, but I think we all have the
ability and we're gonna learn about this today, to be a shaman without the
drugs, without the ayahuasca, without the DMT, without the cannabis, with
just natural setting, and to absorb that data. So I'm really looking forward
to today's program. I enjoyed my interview and the program is based on a
new book called Real Life Intuition, Extraordinary Stories from people who listen to their
Inner Voice. And my guest today is Melanie Barnum, and this was a
real fun interview, not only because she's a prolific author, but the fact
that this book has exercises that really fine tune your intuition and these subtle frequencies
that our body, mind and spirit automatically tie into, but if we pay
attention are conscious of them, can really set us up for success and relationships,
success and work and more happy existence. So that's our program today.
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April twenty eighth through May ninth. As we discuss the intuition, the ability
to know ahead of time about what's been going on we think about our ancestors
and how they survived and intuition, I believe was a big part of their
survival and their ability to function on levels that we perhaps have forgotten about.
And today we are introducing a new author who's written a fascinating book called Real
Life Intuition, Extraordinary Stories from people who listen to their inner voice. And
the reason we have this author on the program is to talk about these gifts
that we have that most of us ignore. And I'm guilty of this,
and so my guest today is Melanie Barnum. She is a author of numerous
books you might have heard of, Intuition at Work, Psychic Ability, Abilities
for Beginners, Psychic Vision, and so on. She's actually very prolific,
and not only is she is psychic, she's a medium and she helps a
lot of people. She's got a website that I took a look at and
it's fantastic. So we're going to get the insight from her because this is
really valuable information. So Melanie, welcome to Destiny. Great to have you
on the program. Hi, Cliff, thanks so much for having me.
I appreciate it. I'm excited talk a little bit about yourself. I read
most of the book, and you talk about knowing that you had this gift,
but you were a public accountant, you were a tax consultant, and
you also at one time had a children's boutique that was all I guess.
You're programming from your parents to make a living in the traditional way. Talk
a little bit about the transitional period when you had an experience that said to
you, Okay, you need to use your gifts. So it's interesting.
I've always been a mix of left and right brain, so I always have
to have that balance, and I went from being the controller of a company
to owning my own children's store because I needed that creative balance right. But
shortly after that, I felt like I was hit over the head and I
heard the words you need to do this work now, and I kind of
looked around. I was holding my newborn, and I looked around. There
was nobody else in the house, and I said, what the heck was
that, Like, there's nobody here. But as soon as it happened,
I knew exactly what was going on, and I knew that it was my
guides, my loved ones on the other side, and they were coming to
tell me that it was time for me to start doing this for other people.
And having that background that I had, that kind of business background,
I said, there's no way I'm doing this, Like this is crazy to
me and I'm not just going to hang out a shingle that says psychic on
the boardwalk. It's not going to happen. At the same time, again,
I knew what was going to happen, So I set about learning everything
that I could, and I took classes with famous people and you know,
people that lived in the town next door to me. And I just really
started studying up and figuring out how it all worked and realizing that I did
have a very natural gift and I was able to do this and I actually
loved it. And I started offering readings for free, and here I am,
you know, almost three decades later, doing it professionally, and I
would never change it for the world. I love it. Talk a little
bit about your gifts, Melanie. You have written all these wonderful books.
I would think at some point you were like so tied into the whole phenomenon
of intuition. And we're going to get into the details in a minute here,
but would you say that at a certain teenage period, you were listening
and hearing spirits give us a sense of your talent. So essentially my whole
life I was able to read people. But I never knew that that was
not the norm, that everybody wasn't doing that. So I thought that that
was, you know, the normal thing, and I didn't realize that there
was anything special to it. So, you know, as a teenager,
I would sense if something was going to go wrong. So, you know,
I just gave this example recently that don't tell anybody, but you know,
I skipped school on occasion when I was in high school, and I
knew when we were in you know, the bagel shop, that there was
going to be a teacher coming in any second. Now we better run,
and you know, thank goodness we did. We ran because that teacher went
in and raided the shop and a lot of students got busted for skipping.
So I had those types of instances. But beyond that, I also,
like I said, I was just able to read people, meaning I could
read their energy and feel whether they were good people, bad people, feel
like, feel the potential in them as well, So I could feel,
you know, maybe they got a little off course, but they were really
good people at heart, and you know, I always kind of wanted to
pull that out of them and pull their potential out for them. So I've
always been drawn to this. I just never knew that it was more than
what I thought it was at the time. Talk a little bit about working
with relatives and loved ones who have passed over. I remember years ago that
I interviewed I forget whose name was, but he was very famous for being
able to work with those who had passed over. And he would see these
relatives, uncles, aunts that were around an individual and call their name out
and actually speak. They would speak through him. Is that a sense of
what you do or how do you work with that level of psychic ability?
So what happens for me is I kind of tune into the person's energy that
I'm reading more and I get information from their guides, their loved ones on
the other side, and I write all that down and the every end of
my paper, I'll write down initials or names of their loved ones from the
other side that are kind of standing up saying hey, I'm here, you
know, let them know I'm here. And I don't necessarily see the people
externally, I see them in my mind. I won't necessarily see it,
see you know your deceased loved one over your shoulder, but in my mind,
I'll see them over your shoulder, which is you know, clairvoyance or
that's the psychic site clairvoyance, or I'll hear them saying things to me.
So when I tune in, I kind of get everything. I don't just
get you know, your your deceased loved one. I get everything about you
that they want me to know. Interesting, would you say that everyone has
the ability or everyone is tuned to this frequency and it's just a matter of
working on your or fine tuning the intuitive sense. Absolutely, you know,
it's a very interesting concept because people there's some people that believe if you're not
born with it, you're not going to be able to do any of it.
But what I say, and what I found to be very true,
is that intuition is our natural birthright. It's part of our kind of innate
ability, and it's just a question of whether or not we learn to utilize
it, or we have to utilize it. Our fight or flight response comes
up for some reason and we have to begin. Just like you know,
you talked about ancestral stuff, just like the cavemen had to do. They
had to you know, trust their intuition to guide them to the next watering
hole, to guide them to food, to save them from being killed.
So, until we have to use it, or until it comes up for
us, we may not recognize it. But once we start recognizing that we
have this ability, we can develop it further. So everybody is born with
a sense of intuitive awareness. They may not recognize it as such, or
they may not call it that, but everybody has it and everybody can develop
it. Now, everybody can, you know, throw a ball in some
way, but not everybody's going to throw the pitch out for you know,
the Yankees or the Mets or whoever you like, right because not everybody's going
to be a professional baseball player. It's the same thing with you know,
psychic ability. Not everybody's going to be a professional psyche. Not everybody wants
to be a professional psychic, right, but we all have the ability to
use our intuition to help us daily. Even so, I want to go
back to our ancestors. Obviously this is a sixth sense. We can just
call it that unless you have another definition, and you give a great example.
If the hunters and gatherers were tuned in and they didn't have the interference
of the internet and our iPhones and all this in your face. That kind
of eats up our ability to be sensitive. Talk a little bit about what
your personal feeling is about how our ancestors may have used intuition more than just
fight or flight, you know what I mean? Right, So, I
mean, you know, we're going all the way back to Neanderthal days essentially,
and they would have to use their intuition to find water, right,
they would have to use their intuition to hunt or to gather food, and
they'd have to use their intuition to either you know, go go for the
cave woman that they were attracted to and know that, you know, there's
an attraction there or there might be consequences. So moving forward in time,
then people had to learn not just from their mothers and fathers or their parents
or their townfolk. People had to learn where to go for things, and
they had to understand the same basics, where do you get water, where
do you get food? And who can you trust? Right, you take
it a step further and you start to understand that when you can begin to
use your intuition with people. Then you can understand that there's certain people that
you can trust, and there's certain people that just won't have your back and
may even go against you. And you know, way back when and again,
like you know, prehistoric times kind of thing, nobody was there to
say your intuition is not real, your intuition is made up. Whereas nowadays,
you know, we've all heard about the witch trials and you know,
people being being hung and shamed for being witches. So think about and the
stonings and you know everything, So think about what's happened in society moving forward.
If there was somebody who was able to heal other people, or if
there was somebody who was able to talk to the dead that wasn't, say,
a priest, or that wasn't a doctor, by the you know,
normal standards, then they had to be demons, or they had to be
the devil, or it had to be bad in some way. So we've
kind of slowed that, you know, that part of our development as humans.
We slowed it down a little bit, and now it's starting to pick
back up because people are realizing that this is real. You know, metaphysical
is a science. It's not just the woo woof stuff. Yeah. I
like that term metaphysical, and we don't use it enough, And I think
you're right. It's demonized and if you're really into the fundamental religious side of
it, it's really a negative, a huge negative, which is it's too
bad. Yeah, talk a little bit about listening and hearing gaya or nature
spirits and work with that side of it. Because you read about different wisdom
traditions, not only the Hopeie we're talking about Native America, but perhaps Predynastic
Egyptians, where I'm not sure they were schools for intuition, but there seemed
to be teachings and they felt and we've lost all this. They felt that
part of your education was to listen to the wind and listen to the earth
and listen to gaya the earth. Talk about that. Yeah, well,
think about what we're what we were just saying. You know, if you
if you didn't conform to what society wanted you to be or who they thought,
you know, the levels that they thought you should be in, then
you were shunned in some way or killed for some reason. When we talk
about how a lot of know what the proper terminology is. But like shamanism
and nature workers, you know, people that work with the earth and the
earth spirits and gaya. As you said, we're getting back to you know,
grassroots basics, and we're getting back to learning how to feel the energy
of the earth and to understand the wind, and to understand the crops and
to understand the herbs that can heal us. We're getting back to that.
You know, there's there's so many things about nature that I feel like,
you know, there's been tribes as you as you mentioned the Incans, the
Mayans, the the Hopi, the you know, my husband is part Panopscotch
Indian. You know, there's there's all these kind of Indian ancestry connections,
okay, or Native American or you know, again, I'm not sure of
the correct terminology here. Yeah, but it's all about tuning into the energy
of the Earth and tuning into the energy of the universe. And before it
was again, before it was you know, demonized, it was something that
we counted on. We counted on knowing things about the earth, and we
counted on knowing things about the sky and the stars, and we let those
things come down through generations and teach us about the earth and what the earth
could do for us and what nature could do for us. And we also
learned some other things. We learned about fairies and elementals and things that you
know, help us in life. I mean, there's definitely different cultures that
that use fairies and elementals more than say, you know, a group in
Connecticut in the United States versus you know, maybe possibly a group in Ireland,
right, you know, the Scottish, the Ireland ancestry, they do
a lot more with the fairies and elementals, but there's a lot of people
in the United States that do it as well. And it's just about tuning
in and using kind of shamanistic energies and the energies of the earth and nature
all around us. And you know, think about it. If you look
outside and you're deciding whether or not it's going to rain, look at the
leaves on the trees. If they're turned over, it's because they're telling you
the rain's coming and they're going to get fed. So it doesn't matter where
you live. And I just got goosebumps for me. Goosebumps is validation that
what I'm saying is true and accurate or that spirit is present. That's what
I always end up doing during a reading. I interrupt myself. But yeah,
they're saying the trees are letting us know. So it's us being able
to tune in and learn the energy of the earth, and that can connect
us even more than we already are. Yeah, talk a little bit about
the health benefits of being completely open, because I think that's what you're talking
about, is not suppressing this gift, this part of our humanity, which
is this intuitive sense. And talk about the importance of walking your path and
using this tool. I mean, you're I love reading your book because you're
obviously so dialed in that it's like you wake with this and you pass through
the day with it, and then you you go back to sleep and then
here in another state. But it's it's critical more and more that we stay
in touch with these tools, right absolutely, think about think about it this
way. You know, we were just talking about the earth, So I'll
give you that example. When you see fish swimming in a stream, it's
so much easier for them to go with the flow, just like it is
for humans and for people that go in the water. It's so much easier
to follow the path of the water and not fight it. So I liken
that too. Using your intuition, when stuff starts to feel really, really
hard, you need to take a step back and look and wonder, am
I going in the wrong direction? Is this you know? Is my own
self? Is the universe fighting me on this direction because it's the wrong way
to go. So I need to take a step back and think about this
and redirect my energy because if it doesn't feel right, then it's not going
to heal you. If it doesn't feel like you're headed in the right direction,
you can physically start manifesting symptoms of ill like illness or disease, and
it can start to constrict your movements and constrict your energy. Yeah, I
like that. Would you say that if we ignore this sixth sense, we
have more problems in life, We don't know how to work with people,
We maybe make poor decisions. Whereas if you can and your books great at
this, and we'll talk more about the exercises for developing intuition. But when
you have have the gift of intuition, would you say that it is a
I think is what you are saying. It's a valuable part of your experience.
Absolutely, no matter what you're looking at in life, no matter what
you're doing, no matter what state you're in, no matter what you're trying
to decide, using your intuition is so valuable. No matter what you're doing,
using your intuition is going to help you and it's going to help those
around you. So if you're constantly, you know, feeling like you're battling,
or if you're constantly, you know, going like this up against other
people, then maybe you're you're in with the wrong group, or maybe what
they're trying to tell you to do doesn't feel quite right. Maybe you need
to switch jobs, you know, maybe you need to find a different career,
even maybe it's time to move to physically move where you live. But
absolutely you need to You need to tune into your intuition, need to start
recognizing it and owning it. Yeah, we're gonna get into some exercises.
I was curious, Melanie, as I was reading your book, can you
use a shortcut when you want to access your intuition? And when I say
shortcut, can you use your momentary intention? And if you have an example
of this grade if it's not, if it's a shortcut, that doesn't work.
Let me know. But I was thinking, you know what, I'm
in a place I need to find some information. I haven't really worked with
my intuition. I do hear things, I'm not sure I accept them.
But if I sit and close my eyes and intend to have something happen,
does that work? You know? It does? Sometimes sometimes it doesn't.
So it people will ask me, well, if I'm trying to tune into
my intuition, I don't hear anything, or if I don't see anything,
then what's wrong? Why isn't it working. Sometimes it's because you're not receiving
the information. Sometimes it's because it's not something that's for you, and maybe
you're doing something in the wrong place, or you're not even supposed to be
where you're at at that moment, or you're asking the wrong questions. But
sometimes it's as simple as you just said. You know, if I wanted
to find something, if I went in, say, you know, I
see a bunch of books behind you there. If you want to find if
you wanted to find a book, you know, if you're looking for a
specific book, and you know, let's pretend you had the whole library of
books surrounding you all around and you weren't sure where that book was. Ask
your intuition to help guide you physically. You may start to feel kind of
a nudge in one direction over the other, or you may even here look
up, you know, you may have to look up because it's up on
a top shelf. I've had situations. I had one person who told me
that they're the book they were looking for, which happened to be my book
fell off the shelf. Like it can happen. These things can happen,
you know. I was doing a reading one day and I was talking to
somebody and they kept denying that whoever I was tuning into was there. And
they kept saying, no, that doesn't sound like them, it doesn't sound
like them. And I finally said, okay, I need to know what
kind of a sign you need to hear, you know, to let you
know that it's really them, because they just keep coming at me and letting
me know that it's them. But I understand if you're not getting it,
you know, I understand if it's not resonating with you, because a lot
of times people want a specific answer or a specific sign. And all of
a sudden I had something fly off my desk right in front of them.
And I looked at her and I said, I think they're letting you know
they're here. And she said, oh my god, they're here. Like
I love to hear those actually would have done. Yeah, real quickly.
I it sounds to me that when you knowledge your sixth sense, and you
were going to talk about some exercises here in a minute and some examples that
you open yourself up to not only the psychic awareness, but also other realms.
Right, absolutely talk about that. Because we briefly talked about heaven or
the other side, which is where we when we leave body and we go
to the next level. That's another area. But it sounds like this is
a very very very important gift that we are all blessed with. Who are
those of us in the physical body, and it's like you got to use
it or you know, things are not going to go very well. So,
I mean, when you're talking about the other realms, I'm not sure
exactly what you mean, but let me try and answer that. Well,
let me just give you an example, like the one of the big topics
that we have here is the Akashak records. Yeah, and we've had experts
talk about this, I still do not know how to tap in. It's
almost like you have to kind of say, I want to connect with the
Akashuak records to learn about this or learn about that. It's this database,
this cloud storage system, is what I've been told, where the past,
the president of the future all is held. Well, how on the hell
do you tap into it? But anyhow, the example is the Akashik records,
one of them. Okay, so what happens for me is kind of
the same thing as the Akashak records, where it's the past, the present,
and the future. Right, I'm going to give you another example about
why that works. Why tuning into the Kashak records works. I was trained
and am a certified Coordinate remote viewer. Oh okay, yeah, so way
back and way back in time, you know, like three decades ago,
when I had set about to do all the learning that I can, you
know, I was very right and left brain. So I had to find
out the science behind it. I had to start to understand why it worked.
How can I possibly you know, know anything about you or about your
you know, ancestors, or about your guides, and how can I possibly
tell you what's going to happen in your future. I needed to know.
So I studied and became certified in coordinate Remote Viewing, which is a process
that was developed by Ingo Swan back in the sixties with Sanford Institute and a
talk about prolific. He was a prolific psychic, and he worked with the
government and the scientists and researchers from Sanford Research Institute to create this program.
And it works with the government because it's very organized. So it's not just
you saying, oh, you know, woo woo, this is what I'm
getting. It's this is how you write it down, this is what you
ask for, this is how it comes to you. And it's got a
very specific protocol to follow because again it's the government, but you learn the
science behind it and part of the science behind it. Now, don't get
me wrong. I kept jumping ahead to like they're called targets, to look
right at the next target. And I kept jumping ahead because I am psychic,
so I would see the next one after I was done with the first
one, so much so that my instructors, you know, almost yelled at
me in front of the whole group of you know, hundreds of people because
they told me I kept ruining the next target, and they had to keep
changing the next target because I was saying it out loud. But anyway,
so the way that it works is that you go outside of yourself, distant
in space and time, and you gather information and data and you bring it
back. Now, how is that possible? How could you possibly do that?
Whether it's going back in time, whether it's going somewhere else in the
current time in the present but somewhere else across the world, or going somewhere
in the future, or all of the above. And it's because of our
timeline. It's not just a straight line. It folds back and forth on
itself all the time. So we're able to access this data. And it's
the same thing with the Aclashic records. You're able to access this data because
our space time continuum like, it's all kind of going like this all the
time, and we just have to know how to access it. So a
long joint out answer is there are many ways to access this information, and
you can also use your helpers, your guides. We all have a bunch
of guides around us. We have guides for I always start with the joy
guides. We can ask our joy guides to help bring us joy during the
day, to help us lap, you know, to bring up that energy
for us. And then we can ask our other guides, whatever they may
be, our finance guides, to help us with you know, a cash
flow issue we're having. We have guides that are just standing by waiting for
you to ask them for things. Then we have already ceased loved ones.
And you know, I always joke that my mom was a fantastic person.
She was my best friend, and she was also an amazing critical care nurse.
She was the head nurse of a critical care unit. And she was
a natural healer. She used to do laying on of hands before it was
a thing right. And would I ask her for help with financial issues or
with money problems, Absolutely not, because she was terrible with money. But
I would ask her for help with healing and for help with you know,
loving and loving other people and you know, being able to share energy with
other people. I would one hundred percent ask her for that. But I
would never ask her for help with money issues. She was terrible with money.
So you know, your deceased loved ones are over there, but don't
give them more credit than they need to have. You can use your guides
or other people for that, would you say, And I'm just curious about
your answer. Are we supposed to be working with the unseen guides simply because
they know us very well? Or are they just I mean part of the
mix, you know, I mean they're there and you can and you can't
use them. I don't know. What do you say a little bit of
both? You know, I believe and our lifetime will never use all our
guides because there's so many out there that know us, that know about us,
but they also know how we relate in the universe and how our energy
has transferred from one physical body to the next over time. So our guides
are there not because they knew us this lifetime in person. Usually they've never
been here, or shouldn't say that. Usually they've never been here with us,
But they know who we are and they follow us from lifetime to lifetime.
So yeah, we should absolutely use them. So they may not know
us now, but they knew us in another lifetime or they were signed to
us as in a script and then when we incarnated, these are the guides
that are with us. Yeah, we have guides that carry through lifetimes with
us. So they absolutely know us. I always say the other side of
the universe, they know us, they know our energy, but they didn't
physically. They weren't physically like my brother or my sister, or my mother
or my grandfather. Right, so they know who we are, and yes,
there are science us. They're also assigned to other people kind of thing.
You know. It's not just that they're only here for me, but
they're here whenever I need them, just like yours are. They're there whenever
you need them. Yeah. Uh, I wonder if you have a book
on that, Melanie, because it's a subject. I've written nine books,
so I know you're like something in there. It's like, Cliff, I
just got the idea for my next book. Okay, let's talk about some
of the different types of intuition. And it was really amazed that there are
so many. There's clairvoyance, clear audience, and so forth. Let's talk
about a few of them. And if you wouldn't mind, let's give our
listeners an idea of what that means with an example. So let's let's stand.
Let's give up the most obvious, the most well known, which is
clairvoyance. What is clairvoyance and what does it feel like? So clairvoyance comes
from Claire, which means clear, clear and clear sight. So clear vision.
So think about your third eye. Your third eye is right here,
located, you know, right above your eyebrows, kind of in the center
of your forehead, and that's your third eye. When we talk about being
able to use your clairvoyance or see things, you're not necessarily seeing externally.
It's internally, so you see things in your mind. And that can actually
cause us a lot of doubt because often it feels like our imagination yes,
yes, right, so it makes us not trust what we see. One
thing I tell my clients and my students when I teach is that our imagination
is actually very important to psychic ability or to intuition, because if we can't
visualize something internally in our mind, then we're they're not going to be able
to send it to us. And what I mean when I say send it
to us, our guides are loved ones on the other side, angels,
you know, whatever it is that you believe in, even information from the
Ecashic records, we may not be able to receive the information if we can't
visualize it or if we're not able to see it in our mind's eye.
So most often what happens is they'll send us symbolic information or symbolic imagery.
So think about it this way, you're not It's very rare for people to
see like a full fledged movie kind of image or imagery, a full movie
in you know, full technicolor as a clairvoyant vision. It happened sometimes,
but it doesn't happen that often. Usually what happens is it's more like a
flash, like a polaroid picture. All of a sudden, you have a
picture in our mind, okay, And oftentimes what happens is it's symbolic picture.
So when I first started doing this work, I would have people ask
me, do you think I'm going to stay with my husband forever? Do
you think that they're going to be my forever person? Right? Am I
ever going to be happy with? You know? Am I ever going to
find my person? That kind of thing? Yeah? And I started realizing
that, and it was the strangest thing for me. And you know,
ninety nine point nine percent of people will never have this as their symbolic image.
But I started realizing that if I saw this. I don't know where
it came from. But if I saw this image of this like run of
a house with a big porch that was set into like the red rocks in
Arizona, and I saw two people on rocking chairs in the front, then
I knew that they would be together a long time. But if I saw
the rocking chairs and I saw them empty, or if I saw just one
person, then I knew that they weren't going to be together for a long
time. And then I started to realize that if I saw the one person,
then usually it was because they lost their spouse or they lost their significant
other, like through death right. I don't know where that you know why.
I mean, most people would say, oh, well, I see
a wedding ring, you know, or I see like hands holding or I
see the church, or I see them holding hands when they're old. But
that's my symbolism, that's my imagery. I don't know why that happened,
but that's something that I've held onto for the past thirty years. Wow.
Yeah, And a lot of times what happens, or quite often what happens,
is that everybody will receive imagery in our mind's eye, and at first
it might seem like our imagination. So I tell people, if you're not
sure, ask for validation, oh, Eric, ask for another image,
or ask to hear something to help you understand that that was real. Even
ask for an external sign to help you understand that that was real, that
what you saw was real and it wasn't just your imagination. M amazing.
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important settings, relationships, work, and living in the human condition. There's
so many any of these interesting techniques and symbology. Claire, audience is a
sound, right, yeah? Talk about that? And can you give us
an example of one of your people in your book who had this experience?
Sure so, Claire, audience means clear hearing, and it can be a
name, it can be a sound, it can be a word, it
can be music. One of the people in my book, I believe it
may have even been a couple of people had experiences where they were driving and
they stopped at a stoplight or at a stop sign and the light turned green,
and they had the kids in the back and the wife in the front
seat, and he essentially just sat there even though the light had turned green,
and everybody kind of said, you know, dad, what are you
doing? Hey, honey, what are you doing? Like the light's green,
let's go, It's gonna move on. He's like, no, I
heard stop, And all of a sudden, carload full of kids went flying
through the red light. So not only did he save the lives of the
people he was with, but he also saved the lives of that carload full
of kids. So and I just got goosebumps. So that's validation again that
what I'm telling you is true, inaccurated, that spirit's coming through. You'll
see me do this a lot. Also, that's energy. So you you
know, as a person, may also I don't have bugs. I swear
to you, there's no bugs up here, but I just get really tingly
and you know, itches me. So you may also get that or goosebumps.
But they heard to stop, even though they were ready to go,
they had the green light, they heard to stop. So that's a good
case of listening to your Claire audience. Wow, I love that again.
I also, I'm sorry. I also just remembered another story of a police
officer that told me a couple of stories, and one of them was that
he had pulled somebody over because they matched a description or I'm not exactly the
reason, but he had pulled somebody over and the person that he pulled over
was super nice who said, you know, license registration. They said,
okay, no problem. And he's reaching over to get the license registration out
of the glove compartment, and he heard that. The police officer heard,
watch the hands, watch the hands, and he thought to himself, he
was watching the hand reach over to get it. But then he looked down
inside the door and next to the pat next to the driver's side window,
the guy was pulling up a gun. So he's reaching over to get the
license of registration and at the same time he's pulling up a gun. So
you know, you want to talk about life saving events and life saving Claire
Audion experiences. See. I love those examples because Those are not high in
the sky. Those are functioning signs that are integrated into the condition of the
person. Yeah. Absolutely, and they're so relevant, I guess is the
word I'm trying to use that. You know, we don't think about the
event like, oh my god, I was just told something. Oh forget,
I don't have to worry about it. It's like, those are the
signs that it's working right and that we are the receiver, which is huge
now. You know. What's also interesting is that sometimes we receive information and
we don't know what the outcome would have been if we didn't listen to it.
So there's another story in there, which I believe is a Claire sentience
story. Claire sentience is when you just feel things right, you just feel
things, and I believe it. Her name was Beth, and Beth talked
about how she was scheduled to go on a road trip with her mom to
go visit her brother, and at the last second, she just felt with
all her beings, she felt like she needed to not go. That was
it. There was no reason. There was nothing that she could see on
the on the news or on the radio about traffic. There was nothing wrong
with her mom there was nothing wrong with her brother or his family. She
had no evidence, no basis to know why she felt like, all of
a sudden she felt like she could not go. They were not going that
day. They could go another day, she knew, but they could not
go that day. She just felt it with like all the way from her
head down to her toe. She just felt it in her body. It
was not a good idea. And so, you know, she broke the
news to her mom and her brother and they said, okay, I get
it, and they went, you know, like the next week or something.
But here's the thing. She never figured out why she didn't go.
So was it because she would have gotten into an accident? Right? Was
it because you know, her family would have gotten into a huge life altering
fight. Was there something really bad that was going to happen? She knows,
you know, she felt it deep down in her soul. She felt
that it was going to be bad. There was there was some reason that
she could not go. So we'll have times like that too, like we'll
trust our intuition and people say, well, what do you do with that?
And I said, will you be thankful? We thank the universe for
stopping something bad? Or something from happening that would have kept you on a
different path or would have made you stray from where you're supposed to be,
even if you don't know why, just be thankful that it happened and it's
okay. You know, it's so funny. It's almost like we should have
a college course or grammar school preparation where intuition is, you know, part
of the learning. You know, it's like, okay, we you know,
we'll practice and we're gonna use, we're gonna practice. We're gonna talk
about some exercises here in a minute. But uh, to fine tune these
intuitive senses because they're so critical. I mean, you're talking about life and
death and a few examples, but absolutely, what about simple acknowledging if this
is a good move or not, or a good relationship or as you said
in the very beginning, is this job right for me? I don't feel
right? Is this unwillness part of the sense that I shouldn't do the workers
up there? You know, it's like so much that and we're so numb
to a lot of this, you know, just because it's like I'd rather
have a beer or I'd rather have a joint or I'd rather drop some masst
or something. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely, And a lot of times,
you know, people do a lot of shrooms mushrooms nowadays. Yeah, And
it's not just for you know, the psychedelic effects anymore. It's also because
it helps some people. And I'm not advocating either way, but it helps
some people to kind of tune in, right, And people are using these
things for a different reason. Now, it's not just to get stolen or
to get hot, right, Yeah, And sometimes that's what it takes to
to realize that you're having an intuitive experience. So, no matter what your
situation is, whether it's you know, you're trying to figure out where to
leave your job or whether to take a new job. If it doesn't feel
right and your stomach is like all clenched up, ask why why is it
clenched up? Is because I'm not supposed to leave? Or is it because
it's making me sick to stay there? Ask for more validation, Ask for
verification, because if you don't pay attention, you are going to manifest some
kind of you know, sickness, or at the very least, you're not
going to be happy. And what's life if you're not happy. Right,
The more the more we're able to enjoy our lives, the more joy will
bring to other people as well. And imagine if just five people. Now
I'm getting a little preachy here, but imagine if just five people we're able
to spread joy to five other people. Yeah, you know, I think
about how far that can go. I I'd like to hear an example of
somebody who was in a relationship who thought it was great, but then they
got to maybe you can't address this, But I hear this all the time.
Somebody is in a relationship and they're like, I don't feel good with
this person, but I love them, you know what I mean. And
we see this with relatives. You know, my Aunt Jane, I can't
stand being around her, but I want to show respect. So for this.
You know, it's funny because it's more. I see it more with
like direct relatives where you're like, get the hell away from me. You're
toxic, you know. But you hate to say that to somebody. You
would never say, Aunt Jane, you're so toxic. I can't deal with
you. You know. If you got to the point where you're saying it,
things are really bad. But talk a little bit about relationships, and
you know, say you're in a you're married to somebody and just becoming a
problem. You know, what do you do? You go to therapy,
But even the therapist is like, well, you know and you and that's
such a huge thing. Any relationship is a major commitment, you know,
on all these different levels. You know, yeah, absolutely so. I
have a client who you know, they're in love, that she's in love
with her boyfriend or her fiance and vice versa. They're in love. But
she just kept saying, you know, I just I have this really bad
feeling. I don't know why, Like, nothing has happened, nothing bad
has happened. You know, we get along great, everything's good. And
I said, look, you really need to start trusting your intuition. If
you're having a bad feeling about something, you really need to start trusting your
intuition. And I didn't tell her, you know there's something going on.
I said, start start thinking about what you think it is, start feeling
what it is. Start listening to the universe telling you why are you having
this bad feeling? And sure enough, that night she went home and she
grabbed his phone after he went to sleep, and she started looking at his
things and realize that he was having an affair and it wasn't just an affair,
it was an affair with somebody that she was friends with. And this
had been going on for a while. So did she have any evidence was
he acting differently towards her? No, but she knew, so she listened
to her intuition. And it's really really hard to leave somebody without having that
evidence. It's very difficult to trust yourself enough without having evidence. And she
had, you know, debated back and forth about what she should do before
she found that evidence because she just felt it. She felt like something was
maybe deceitful, but she wasn't sure what it was because she couldn't figure out
how it was possible. And then she realized what was going on. So
it's very very difficult in those situations. And I always tell people, you
know, take what I say first of all in my readings. Take what
I say with a grain of salt. But tap into your own intuition,
your own vibes, and if you feel like somebody's toxic, like Aunt Jane,
stay away from them. You know, you don't need to put yourself
in that position. And if they get too close to you back away.
You know, if you're at some kind of a family function, you don't
need to sit there and talk to them. Back away from them, Go
to somebody else, Go hang out with somebody that you actually like and that
you feel drawn too. You know, there's different ways to handle things,
and rather than stay away from the whole family because of that one person,
just stay away from them. How do you approach a situation where you're in
a council therapist's role and a client is coming you and say, I really
like this guy. He's fun, he's uh, cares and he seems attentive
of me, but you pick up a real bad vibe about the person.
Oh yeah, it's happened many many times. But I mean, how especially
when somebody's you know, desperate to be and there's a lot of men and
women who are like will block their intuition because of course I gotta have a
relationship. Yeah, of course, they really want they really want to be
happy, they want to be in that relationship. So usually you know,
if they tell me, you know about this person or this guy or this
woman, and you know they tell me about that they're really into them,
I'll say, oh, well that's good. So you know, you know,
you know what you're into, you know what you want, and you
know this one might not might not last that long, but okay, go
out on a date or two and see how who goes. You know,
if it's well, you say something like that, well I just don't see
you with that person very long? Or do you just are you very more
casual? Because I mean that could be devastating for someone who's thinking this is
the one. If somebody comes straight out and says, what do you think
about this person? I'll tell them, look, I'm not right now.
I'm not really seeing the potential of a forever person. It may not be
your forever guy, but it doesn't mean you shouldn't explore it. If you're
feeling really drawn to them, explore it and maybe that'll change. Okay.
And usually they come back and say, you know what, you were right,
I'm done with them. I shouldn't be laughing, because I bet you
it's all I mean. I would think that you know, somebody took it
too far, wasn't paying attention to their intuition. Because if it's really fine
tuned, you're gonna know pretty quick. But if your the heart is overshadowing
the mind or the tool. Then you're like with somebody for all of a
sudden forever. I mean, do you ever get in a situation where you're
like, the person has almost in an abusive situation but just can't move on.
Yeah? Yeah, And it's sad because there's there's reasons behind there not
moving on. You know, there's there's a reason that's keeping them there.
And so rather than saying, look, you need to get out of this
relationship right this second, I'll say, look what, let's talk about what's
holding you back? Right? You know you're telling you that you're in an
abusive situation. What are you getting from this relationship that's keeping you there?
Is it? Is it financial? Is it because you feel like you deserve
to be abused? Is it because you're scared? Is it because you know
they're a big part of the family already? Is it because of the kids?
What is it? Let's let's explore the why behind why you don't want
to leave them. If you're telling me that you know that you should,
so I mean, there's you know, there's other ways to go about it.
Look, it's easy for me sitting behind my desk or you know,
sitting behind the camera saying, dude, get over him, you need to
move on. That's easy for me. Yeah, with his entire life right,
Oh my god, I can't imagine. And kids, Oh amazing.
The books called Real Life Intuition Extraordinary stories from people who listen to their inner
voice. And I'm speaking with Melanie Barnum. I want to go over a
few of the exercises because I think they're fantastic and it really is such a
great addition, and it's great that you did that because people can go I
really have this sense using this part of my intuition, or this part.
Let's talk about claire audience and this is I didn't think you'd do this.
It's like listening to music. Talk about that, now, how does that
because obviously that's it's an audible sense that it's tuned for you. But talk
about the exercises involved in that form of intuition. So one of the things,
and I think this is probably in my book, but one of the
exercises that you can do to tune into your clear audience ability is like you
said, to listen to music, listen to the actual lyrics. It doesn't
matter what the song is or where it comes from. Listen to the actual
lyrics, because if you're having a hard time and now, granted a lot
of music, you can't understand the words. But if you're having a really
hard time discerning what they're saying, then it can be the same thing.
If you're trying to get information from the universe, you won't be able to
discern it as well. Oh okay, so start really paying attention and really
listening with your you know, physical ears. Listen to the lyrics, and
then take it a step further. Ask yourself, you know, turn off
the radio. Ask a question that you want an answer to. Ask the
universe a question, you know, am I going to write another book?
Is it in my best interest? Actually, I tend to tell people to
stay away from the yes or nos, because we can always have a yes
answer and a no answer. It's just a question whether it's good for us,
or whether it's you know, on our path, or whether it's something
that will bring out our greatest potential. So say, if I wanted to
ask the universe if I should write another book, you know, or will
it be in my best interest? Or will it, you know, increase
my potential? Or will it be good for my audience for me to write
another book. Okay, and then turn on the radio and the first song
you hear, listen to the lyrics because that can be a way to help
you tune in and understand what they're trying to say. I love that.
So that's that's the the universe saying okay, we will tell her through this
music or through this lyric. And you know, you might not hear that
all the time. You might once you start to understand where the information is
coming from the other side, or your guides or you know, the the
universal energy that we're all connected to. Then you don't have to have an
actual radio because the radio becomes your Clavo, your Claire audience, your inner
ear and you know, say say you wanted to know, you know,
are do people? Do people appreciate my podcasts? And all of a sudden,
you know, you hear the words of Aretha Franklin and there saying r
E sp CD. So they're like, yes, you know, they're telling
you right then and there they're saying, yes that you're getting the respect you
deserve. They respect what you're doing. I love that. That's so wonderful.
Uh, let's go on to another one. And this is probably gonna
be easiest. Just simple clairvoyance. And you say, practice using your imagination.
Now, how does that work? Because I would think that can get
to extreme. You can go overboard with your imagination. Some of us are
like, I mean, I'm a very I'm an artist, so I'm like,
oh, sure, I could whatever you want. I can think about,
you know, but how do you pull that in and use it more
specifically? So for you, Cliff, as an artist, you probably already
use it all the time because a lot of what happens with artists is they
see things clairvoyantly and they channel things in their art. Whether it's you know,
you're creating out a play or you're painting whatever it is, you're getting
it and kind of seeing it in your mind's eye, right, Yeah,
So to use or to practice your clairvoyant ability, you can use your imagination.
So think about your car. If you have a car, think about
your car and envision what it looks like on the outside. See the color,
see the headlights, Look and see whether the bumper is the same color
as the rest of the car. Okay, and then we can take take
it a step further. Look at the license plate on the car, whether
it's on the front or the back or both. What does the license plate
say? Then go into the car, look at your steering wheel, what
color is it? Look at your dashboard? What do you see? You
can start using your imagination. So right now you've got an image of your
car, you know, silver car. I see the license plate in the
back. You go inside the car, you see that it's a black steering
wheel. You know, whatever it is. You have that imagery in your
mind's eye. Now that same space that you used to imagine what your car
looks like, you can begin to use for your clairvoyant messages. So think
about a question that you may have. You know, should I buy a
red car or a green car? And all of a sudden, in your
mind you're seeing this, you know, bright red, super sporty, awesome
car. Well there's your answer. You should probably get a red car,
you know. So when you're able to imagine and use your imagination, that
helps in your psychic abilities or your intuition. It helps you to be able
to tune in and see things in your mind's eye clearer. Just like listening
to the lyrics in a song, it helps it to become clearer so that
you can understand the information you're being given. So somebody, and I'm just
gonna probably answer my own question, but you give all these different types of
intuition, and you have exercises for each one. If someone doesn't really know
what their highest gift is or their best use of intuition, that's what you've
done, right. You've given them an opportunity to look at the different types
of sensitivities and choose which one feels right. Is that it? Yeah,
and you just said something that I'm gonna take it a step further. One
of the ways that you can see or you can understand different ways that you're
intuition stands out more is to listen to the way that you speak. And
you just use the word feel, so you know, think about whether you
say, I feel you, I see you, I hear you, I
understand you, right, I get it right? Those are great. Yeah,
I just got goosebumps again. So yeah, total validation. And you
said I feel you know, yeah, if they feel like it something like
that, So you know, you listen to the words that you use.
Wow, amazing real life intuition. And uh, this has been great,
And I have to say, you have been doing this long enough to really
put out what I would really call not just a book. It's a work
book for self help. Thanks and it's a real blessing for those of you
listening. It's not a monstrous book. It's it's very direct and to the
point, which is even more of a benefit. Thank you, because some
of these books are five six hundred pages and you've got to go through and
carry morale like an encyclopedia, which is a little too much. So great
job on this. How can people get a hold of you? Give us
your website and also your YouTube channel. Sure so, Melanie Barnum dot com,
M E l A n I E b A R n U M dot
com. And you can also find me on all social media Melanie Barnum Psychic
so Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, although my YouTube I don't have that many
videos up right now, but there are a few there, okay. But
yeah, So anywhere that you can look up my name, you can find
me. And on your website they can reach out to you if they want
to have a reading, correct, absolutely, and they can buy books.
I also have psychic symbols oracle cards, so you can buy a deck of
those. If you want the books, you can get anywhere, but you
can definitely get them autographed through me, and you can find out about having
a reading for sure. And we should all let people know that the book
will not be out until the eighth, so you could pre order it now
and I guess it'll show up the day after the eighth or ninth or whatever.
So if you're going to your local bookstore, if you're going on Amazon,
March eighth is the date. If you're ordering for me, you can
get them now. I do have some copies available now. Oh if they
order through the website. Yeah, oh, excellent, fantastic, right,
amazing, fantastic, real pleasure talking to you. And by the way,
you're eloquent in your descriptions. Some people are like, well just feel it
and be done with it. No, It's like no, no, no,
no, we want more, we want more. So why did you
write this book? So you mentioned that you know this book has exercises.
I've written all my books that have stories of real readings that I've done for
people, or real events that have happened that I've had with people that I've
experienced through my sessions, and they all have exercises to help you learn and
understand and practice for your own self and to discover how intuitive you actually are.
But this time I wanted to write a book that wasn't just about my
experiences and the readings I've done for other people, but I wanted to share
with people that everyone is intuitive. And look, we have a waitress,
you know, we have a hairdresser, we have a cop, we have
a nerse, we have a teacher, we had you know, there's so
many different people in this book that share their own personal experiences, and sometimes
they didn't even recognize that it was intuition right away. Sometimes it took them
a while. You know, there's somebody in there that just when she was
younger, she was walking her dog and she felt when she saw this guy
from way down the road, she felt like she needed to get out of
there right now. She scooped up her dog and she ran back home and
locked the door. And as she was running, she looked back and the
guy was chasing her. So, you know, she realized way back that
she knew and she didn't even realize that it was her intuition that she had
used. She just knew she had a feeling she had to get away from
this guy. But that's her intuitive response, that was her intuition. And
so I wanted to share these stories, these types of stories with everybody so
that people realize and can relate to them more that it's not just a professional
story, it's worries of real people that use their intuition. Yeah, you
know, it's funny you mentioned the people in your book. It looks like
you have something like fifty different examples or more. It's like you have really
gone through there. And I guess in some cases you have to change their
name. They don't want to be listed, but that's really important because you
give great examples. So good for you. Yeah. Hey, well Melanie,
great to have you and Munch's success on this book. Thanks so much,
Cliff. It was a great time. I enjoyed it. There is
so much good material in this book and it's not even out yet. You
got to order it and it's going to be out in a few days.
I saw it on Amazon Real Life Intuition, and it's a it's really packed
with my good material as well. We're having some good published books lately,
both for the Earth the Ancient's Crowd and for the Destiny Crowd. So check
out this book, get a copy of it. And if you're like me,
you're always looking to hone your your subtle intuition, your sixth sense,
and considerate considerate. Now, we didn't have a lot of extra time to
go over stuff, but she was Melanie was talking about her et experience.
She's very much involved with the Uapece situation. The theme of the talk of
the interview was intuition, so we didn't really get into it. But I
actually saved a portion of her experience with three beings who came to her home.
And here's a couple of minutes of this interview that I did not add
to the main portion of the show, but here it is right here to
have a quick listen. You know, it's interesting I never put that timeline
together. But now that you're saying that, I'm wondering if when I was
training with remote viewing and I was looking at the moon and looking at you
know, Mars, and doing all these remote viewing things, I'm wondering if
my I'll call it a visitation. I'm wondering if my visitation related to the
same stuff that I had just finished looking at before I got my certification and
stuff. You're making me think about things now, and maybe maybe that was
one of the reasons they reached out. You know, if you have a
visitation, more talk in your head or did you see something present in your
space? So I think I wrote that about this in my first book.
I'm not positive if it was in my book of Psychic Symbols or not.
But when it happened for me, and it's you know, it can be
a quick story, so I'll just give it to you really quick. I
mean, I make time for this, so don't worry. Yeah, But
when it happened for me, it was because my daughter, who was about
two or three at the time, kept coming into our room in the middle
of the night because she was terrified because there was somebody in her room.
And it got to the point where, you know, at first I was
like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, oh my god,
what am I doing? Like she probably does see dead people, like
she's probably seeing stuff in her room. So you know, we started letting
her come in. But the problem with that was that I always call her
like a starfish heater, So she'd go in the middle of our bed,
and you know, she'd put her arms and her legs out, and she
was like a thousand degrees. And I finally said, you know what,
I need to get some sleep. I'm going to go sleep in her room
and you can stay in here with Daddy. And so I went in her
room one night and I had just fallen back to sleep. It was like
two o'clock in the morning, and all of a sudden, I heard something.
So I woke up and I sat up, and I was wide awake,
like wide awake, and I looked in the middle of her room.
And to this day, every time I talk about it, I get wicked
goose bumps from head to toe. And I looked to the middle of her
room. Now, like I said, it was the middle of the night,
so it was dark, but it wasn't pitch black, and it didn't
matter because I could see these three beings in the middle of the room,
and one of them wasn't the middle one was very like kind of tall,
but I couldn't see any feet, and the other two were kind of floating
next to him. And I'm saying him because that's just kind of what it
felt like. So there were these two like shorter maybe two and a half
feet tall kind of things, floating, but they were all they all looked
the same. And it's almost like if you can imagine a stocking over your
face, so you can see like the shape, but you can't really make
out the features, right, Yeah, And it was that kind of a
face, no hair, and you could see like where the shoulders were.
But it was like these robes, just very nondescript. I'd call it like
a grays like a beige gray kind of color. And then it had one
thicker stripe down the middle that was a little bit darker. They didn't move,
they were just kind of floating there, howevering just staring at me.
And I heard them saying. Now I heard them. It was telepathically.
I could hear them clear as day. When I first woke up, I
heard, Oh, they were talking to themselves. Yeah, and I was
like, what is that? But then and that was out loud. I
could hear that out loud, But then I heard telepathically what they were actually
saying, and what they were saying kind of freaked me out. The little
ones were saying to the big one, but she's a child of God,
She's ready, And the big one was saying she's she is a child of
God, but she's not ready. And they just kept going back and forth,
and the little ones were but she's a child of God, she's ready.
She is a child of God. But she's not ready. But she's
ready, she's a child of God. She's not ready. She is a
child of God. And it went back and forth, and the whole time,
I'm thinking, excuse my language, but I'm like, holy shit,
like I am not ready to die. You're not taking me. I'm not
going anywhere, Like that's what I was thinking. And I was thinking,
and I'm like, how can I get rid of them? How can I
tell them to go away? And I went back to like all my trainings
that said, you know, if you have a ghost or something, you
can tell them to go away and they'll go away. Yeah, And I
started thinking, they're not even aware that I'm awake, Like they're just looking
at me. They I don't even know if they know that I'm awake and
staring at them, like wide awake, staring at them. And I finally
just said go away, I'm not ready, and this they went away.
The second that they went away, it was like a switch went off in
my mind, and I knew that they wanted to give me more of a
download of information. Oh shit, exactly that was my thought. And I
said, no, no, no, wait, come back. I mean,
that's pretty trippy. It really is three beings and it's so funny.
I've always thought about that. If you're so fearful of them, and you're
like, go away, I don't want to see you. I don't want
to you know, you're going to kill me. I need to preserve my
existence, and so I don't want to interact with you and to get that,
you know, information where we have something to download to you. I
love that. I love that. And I have to say this though,
a lot of these interactions with these off world types, and you hear it
on with Whitney Streeber. We've heard a few times here with some of our
guests who are talking about alien interactions. It's always in the middle of the
night. It's always late, everyone's asleep, it's dark. It's like,
come on, do it in the daytime, you know, And it's likely
that they don't want the interference of the other thinking, the other people,
the noise, the commuter is the whatever else is around. But you would
think they could do it a little more elegantly because this late night interaction.
And like I said, I've heard this a lot, it's just not copasetic.
It's not good, it doesn't it's just causes problems because it's dark,
and darkness is the unknown, and we can't see very well. And we,
you know, we think everything should be quiet and there shouldn't be anything
that is functioning or moving around. And here's these alien beans in the room.
You know, hey, how are you? And they're you know,
telepathically communicating to her, you know, and it's freaky. You know,
it's like, come on, guys, let's be a little more elegant.
Okay, that's my two cents on that. Anyhow, it was fun to
have Melanie and I was looking at her book and we might have to have
her back because there's a lot we didn't cover in this thing. But small
book. How many pages of it I'm looking at it right now, hundred
and about one hundred and eighty pages. No excuse me, it's one hundred
and two hundred. It's two hundred pages, small compact. I have an
uncorrected publishers proof they send me. I get this a lot they'll send me
a book before it comes out so I can do my research and then we
can interview so real life intuition, extraordinary stories from people who listen to their
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all right, that's it for this program. I want to thank my guest
today, Melanie Bartam and her new book, Real Life Intuition. As always
the team of Gail tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who makes this thing
happen. You guys rock all right, take care of me well, and
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