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Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your
host, Cliff Dunning. Oh boy,

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hey, how you doing. We're
dealing with the sixth sense today, intuition,

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premonition, and all the different frequencies
allowed and that make it up.

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And that's intouition in a nutshell.
And what's fascinating about intuition is that it's

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part of our human condition, physical
condition. It is tapping in to a

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vast array of guidance, a vast
array of sensory perception. And what we're

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going to learn about today is that
we need to use it more. Our

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ancestors were very much in tune with
intuition because they didn't have the interference of

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television, the Internet, the iPhone, Wi Fi streaming media and everything that

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interferes with our subtle conscious awareness.
I think that and I'm at fault of

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this too, the fact that we
carry this mini computer connected to the Wi

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Fi wherever we go, and I
mean, I mean, I'm in Egypt,

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I'm in Mexico, I'm in different
parts of Europe, I'm traveling,

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and I go everywhere with my mini
computer, which is my Apple iPhone.

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And it's a problem. And I've
talked about this and I've talked about how

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it's blocking my subtle perception. You
know, rather than taking in the air,

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taking in the surroundings, I'm staring
at my damn phone. And this

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is a huge problem. And so
today's program is very, very, very

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timely in that this is a resource. Intuition, our sixth sense is extremely

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important not only to get subtle data, but also to connect with our ancestors,

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to connect with our departed family and
in that case, the elders.

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There's a lot that comes through when
we are paying attention to intuition, little

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voices, nudges, sounds. We
can also talk about some of the dreams

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that come through that have an intuitive
kind of theme to them. And I'm

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again I'm also you know, tooting
my own horn on the fact that I

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don't pay enough attention to this.
And it's huge when it comes to relationships,

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you know, should I hang with
this person or not? If it's

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a if it's an intimate relationship,
is this gonna work out? Are those

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subtle notions are what we call red
flags? Are they worth passing through and

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going to the other side? Uh? Is there something about this person I

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should be paying attention to? This
goes through work as well. You know,

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is this job satisfying? I'm making
good money, but am I dragging

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my guts home every night? Because
I'm just so angry. I'm frustrated because

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I don't like my work, I
don't like the people I work with,

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I hate my bots. Are there
subtle signals? Are there? Subtle subtle

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uh messages that my higher self is
telling me? And this is what I've

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come to discover is that although we're
embody and we're interacting with others who are

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in body, there are a huge
range of unseen, unknown frequencies that we

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pass into in nature and on ancient
at ancient sites, at special places,

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it can be called sacred places.
There are energies that we can some in

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some cases know that we're activating,
and in other times they activate an early

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warning dangerous people, situations where you
can get hurt or someone's you know,

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wants to hurt you. Positive you
know, this is something I want to

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do. You know, is this
road safe? Is this interaction safe?

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And there's a little hints, little
bits and pieces of data known as intuition.

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So our ancestors used it with much
more effectiveness and clarity because they didn't

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have this interference, you know,
and I'm really you know, as I'm

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talking, and I've mentioned this before, it's really becoming a serious problem that

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we carry around these mini computers.
Not only are they belching out electro frequencies

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that are damaging and I'm learning about
this myself, the microwave fields that are

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generated by these cell phones and the
towers are really really bad. And I'm

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trying. I'm trying to learn to
put my phone away. Used to be

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in my nights, my knight stand, but are laying on my bed because

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I was, you know, wanted
to pick up messages, but not a

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good thing. And we don't want
to block intuition. We don't want to

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block the signals on all different scales
that are coming through to us. So

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you know, keep that phone away
when you're sleep, trying to reduce your

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usage of it because there are subtle
frequencies that are trying to penetrate your brain

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and communicate with you. And you
know, I may sound like I'm a

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shaman, like a shamanistic point of
view, and there are aspects of intuition

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that can delve into shaman shaman's profile, but I think we all have the

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ability and we're gonna learn about this
today, to be a shaman without the

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drugs, without the ayahuasca, without
the DMT, without the cannabis, with

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just natural setting, and to absorb
that data. So I'm really looking forward

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to today's program. I enjoyed my
interview and the program is based on a

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new book called Real Life Intuition,
Extraordinary Stories from people who listen to their

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Inner Voice. And my guest today
is Melanie Barnum, and this was a

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real fun interview, not only because
she's a prolific author, but the fact

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that this book has exercises that really
fine tune your intuition and these subtle frequencies

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that our body, mind and spirit
automatically tie into, but if we pay

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attention are conscious of them, can
really set us up for success and relationships,

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success and work and more happy existence. So that's our program today.

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As we discuss the intuition, the ability

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to know ahead of time about what's
been going on we think about our ancestors

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and how they survived and intuition,
I believe was a big part of their

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survival and their ability to function on
levels that we perhaps have forgotten about.

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And today we are introducing a new
author who's written a fascinating book called Real

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Life Intuition, Extraordinary Stories from people
who listen to their inner voice. And

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the reason we have this author on
the program is to talk about these gifts

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that we have that most of us
ignore. And I'm guilty of this,

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and so my guest today is Melanie
Barnum. She is a author of numerous

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books you might have heard of,
Intuition at Work, Psychic Ability, Abilities

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for Beginners, Psychic Vision, and
so on. She's actually very prolific,

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and not only is she is psychic, she's a medium and she helps a

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lot of people. She's got a
website that I took a look at and

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it's fantastic. So we're going to
get the insight from her because this is

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really valuable information. So Melanie,
welcome to Destiny. Great to have you

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on the program. Hi, Cliff, thanks so much for having me.

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I appreciate it. I'm excited talk
a little bit about yourself. I read

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most of the book, and you
talk about knowing that you had this gift,

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but you were a public accountant,
you were a tax consultant, and

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you also at one time had a
children's boutique that was all I guess.

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You're programming from your parents to make
a living in the traditional way. Talk

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a little bit about the transitional period
when you had an experience that said to

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you, Okay, you need to
use your gifts. So it's interesting.

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I've always been a mix of left
and right brain, so I always have

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to have that balance, and I
went from being the controller of a company

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to owning my own children's store because
I needed that creative balance right. But

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shortly after that, I felt like
I was hit over the head and I

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heard the words you need to do
this work now, and I kind of

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looked around. I was holding my
newborn, and I looked around. There

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was nobody else in the house,
and I said, what the heck was

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that, Like, there's nobody here. But as soon as it happened,

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I knew exactly what was going on, and I knew that it was my

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guides, my loved ones on the
other side, and they were coming to

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tell me that it was time for
me to start doing this for other people.

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And having that background that I had, that kind of business background,

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I said, there's no way I'm
doing this, Like this is crazy to

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me and I'm not just going to
hang out a shingle that says psychic on

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the boardwalk. It's not going to
happen. At the same time, again,

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I knew what was going to happen, So I set about learning everything

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that I could, and I took
classes with famous people and you know,

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people that lived in the town next
door to me. And I just really

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started studying up and figuring out how
it all worked and realizing that I did

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have a very natural gift and I
was able to do this and I actually

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loved it. And I started offering
readings for free, and here I am,

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you know, almost three decades later, doing it professionally, and I

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would never change it for the world. I love it. Talk a little

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bit about your gifts, Melanie.
You have written all these wonderful books.

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I would think at some point you
were like so tied into the whole phenomenon

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of intuition. And we're going to
get into the details in a minute here,

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but would you say that at a
certain teenage period, you were listening

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and hearing spirits give us a sense
of your talent. So essentially my whole

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life I was able to read people. But I never knew that that was

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not the norm, that everybody wasn't
doing that. So I thought that that

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was, you know, the normal
thing, and I didn't realize that there

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was anything special to it. So, you know, as a teenager,

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I would sense if something was going
to go wrong. So, you know,

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I just gave this example recently that
don't tell anybody, but you know,

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I skipped school on occasion when I
was in high school, and I

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knew when we were in you know, the bagel shop, that there was

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going to be a teacher coming in
any second. Now we better run,

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and you know, thank goodness we
did. We ran because that teacher went

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in and raided the shop and a
lot of students got busted for skipping.

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So I had those types of instances. But beyond that, I also,

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like I said, I was just
able to read people, meaning I could

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read their energy and feel whether they
were good people, bad people, feel

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like, feel the potential in them
as well, So I could feel,

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you know, maybe they got a
little off course, but they were really

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good people at heart, and you
know, I always kind of wanted to

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pull that out of them and pull
their potential out for them. So I've

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always been drawn to this. I
just never knew that it was more than

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what I thought it was at the
time. Talk a little bit about working

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with relatives and loved ones who have
passed over. I remember years ago that

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I interviewed I forget whose name was, but he was very famous for being

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able to work with those who had
passed over. And he would see these

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relatives, uncles, aunts that were
around an individual and call their name out

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and actually speak. They would speak
through him. Is that a sense of

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what you do or how do you
work with that level of psychic ability?

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So what happens for me is I
kind of tune into the person's energy that

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I'm reading more and I get information
from their guides, their loved ones on

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the other side, and I write
all that down and the every end of

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my paper, I'll write down initials
or names of their loved ones from the

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other side that are kind of standing
up saying hey, I'm here, you

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know, let them know I'm here. And I don't necessarily see the people

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externally, I see them in my
mind. I won't necessarily see it,

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see you know your deceased loved one
over your shoulder, but in my mind,

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I'll see them over your shoulder,
which is you know, clairvoyance or

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that's the psychic site clairvoyance, or
I'll hear them saying things to me.

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So when I tune in, I
kind of get everything. I don't just

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get you know, your your deceased
loved one. I get everything about you

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that they want me to know.
Interesting, would you say that everyone has

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the ability or everyone is tuned to
this frequency and it's just a matter of

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working on your or fine tuning the
intuitive sense. Absolutely, you know,

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it's a very interesting concept because people
there's some people that believe if you're not

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born with it, you're not going
to be able to do any of it.

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But what I say, and what
I found to be very true,

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is that intuition is our natural birthright. It's part of our kind of innate

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ability, and it's just a question
of whether or not we learn to utilize

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it, or we have to utilize
it. Our fight or flight response comes

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up for some reason and we have
to begin. Just like you know,

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you talked about ancestral stuff, just
like the cavemen had to do. They

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had to you know, trust their
intuition to guide them to the next watering

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hole, to guide them to food, to save them from being killed.

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So, until we have to use
it, or until it comes up for

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us, we may not recognize it. But once we start recognizing that we

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have this ability, we can develop
it further. So everybody is born with

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a sense of intuitive awareness. They
may not recognize it as such, or

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they may not call it that,
but everybody has it and everybody can develop

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it. Now, everybody can,
you know, throw a ball in some

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way, but not everybody's going to
throw the pitch out for you know,

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the Yankees or the Mets or whoever
you like, right because not everybody's going

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to be a professional baseball player.
It's the same thing with you know,

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psychic ability. Not everybody's going to
be a professional psyche. Not everybody wants

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to be a professional psychic, right, but we all have the ability to

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use our intuition to help us daily. Even so, I want to go

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back to our ancestors. Obviously this
is a sixth sense. We can just

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call it that unless you have another
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If the hunters and gatherers were tuned
in and they didn't have the interference

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of the internet and our iPhones and
all this in your face. That kind

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of eats up our ability to be
sensitive. Talk a little bit about what

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your personal feeling is about how our
ancestors may have used intuition more than just

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fight or flight, you know what
I mean? Right, So, I

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mean, you know, we're going
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and they would have to use their
intuition to find water, right,

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they would have to use their intuition
to hunt or to gather food, and

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they'd have to use their intuition to
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cave woman that they were attracted to
and know that, you know, there's

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an attraction there or there might be
consequences. So moving forward in time,

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then people had to learn not just
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or their townfolk. People had to
learn where to go for things, and

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they had to understand the same basics, where do you get water, where

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do you get food? And who
can you trust? Right, you take

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it a step further and you start
to understand that when you can begin to

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use your intuition with people. Then
you can understand that there's certain people that

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you can trust, and there's certain
people that just won't have your back and

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may even go against you. And
you know, way back when and again,

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like you know, prehistoric times kind
of thing, nobody was there to

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say your intuition is not real,
your intuition is made up. Whereas nowadays,

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you know, we've all heard about
the witch trials and you know,

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people being being hung and shamed for
being witches. So think about and the

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stonings and you know everything, So
think about what's happened in society moving forward.

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If there was somebody who was able
to heal other people, or if

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there was somebody who was able to
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a priest, or that wasn't a
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normal standards, then they had to
be demons, or they had to be

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the devil, or it had to
be bad in some way. So we've

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kind of slowed that, you know, that part of our development as humans.

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back up because people are realizing that
this is real. You know, metaphysical

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is a science. It's not just
the woo woof stuff. Yeah. I

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like that term metaphysical, and we
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you're right. It's demonized and if
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it, it's really a negative,
a huge negative, which is it's too

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bad. Yeah, talk a little
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spirits and work with that side of
it. Because you read about different wisdom

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traditions, not only the Hopeie we're
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Egyptians, where I'm not sure they
were schools for intuition, but there seemed

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to be teachings and they felt and
we've lost all this. They felt that

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part of your education was to listen
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and listen to gaya the earth.
Talk about that. Yeah, well,

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think about what we're what we were
just saying. You know, if you

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if you didn't conform to what society
wanted you to be or who they thought,

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you know, the levels that they
thought you should be in, then

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you were shunned in some way or
killed for some reason. When we talk

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about how a lot of know what
the proper terminology is. But like shamanism

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and nature workers, you know,
people that work with the earth and the

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earth spirits and gaya. As you
said, we're getting back to you know,

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grassroots basics, and we're getting back
to learning how to feel the energy

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of the earth and to understand the
wind, and to understand the crops and

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to understand the herbs that can heal
us. We're getting back to that.

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You know, there's there's so many
things about nature that I feel like,

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you know, there's been tribes as
you as you mentioned the Incans, the

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Mayans, the the Hopi, the
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Indian. You know, there's there's
all these kind of Indian ancestry connections,

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okay, or Native American or you
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the correct terminology here. Yeah,
but it's all about tuning into the energy

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of the Earth and tuning into the
energy of the universe. And before it

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was again, before it was you
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we counted on. We counted on
knowing things about the earth, and we

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counted on knowing things about the sky
and the stars, and we let those

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things come down through generations and teach
us about the earth and what the earth

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could do for us and what nature
could do for us. And we also

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learned some other things. We learned
about fairies and elementals and things that you

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know, help us in life.
I mean, there's definitely different cultures that

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that use fairies and elementals more than
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Connecticut in the United States versus you
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right, you know, the Scottish, the Ireland ancestry, they do

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a lot more with the fairies and
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in the United States that do it
as well. And it's just about tuning

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in and using kind of shamanistic energies
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all around us. And you know, think about it. If you look

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outside and you're deciding whether or not
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leaves on the trees. If they're
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the rain's coming and they're going to
get fed. So it doesn't matter where

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you live. And I just got
goosebumps for me. Goosebumps is validation that

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what I'm saying is true and accurate
or that spirit is present. That's what

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I always end up doing during a
reading. I interrupt myself. But yeah,

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they're saying the trees are letting us
know. So it's us being able

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to tune in and learn the energy
of the earth, and that can connect

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us even more than we already are. Yeah, talk a little bit about

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the health benefits of being completely open, because I think that's what you're talking

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about, is not suppressing this gift, this part of our humanity, which

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is this intuitive sense. And talk
about the importance of walking your path and

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using this tool. I mean,
you're I love reading your book because you're

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obviously so dialed in that it's like
you wake with this and you pass through

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the day with it, and then
you you go back to sleep and then

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here in another state. But it's
it's critical more and more that we stay

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in touch with these tools, right
absolutely, think about think about it this

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way. You know, we were
just talking about the earth, So I'll

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give you that example. When you
see fish swimming in a stream, it's

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so much easier for them to go
with the flow, just like it is

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for humans and for people that go
in the water. It's so much easier

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to follow the path of the water
and not fight it. So I liken

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that too. Using your intuition,
when stuff starts to feel really, really

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hard, you need to take a
step back and look and wonder, am

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I going in the wrong direction?
Is this you know? Is my own

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self? Is the universe fighting me
on this direction because it's the wrong way

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to go. So I need to
take a step back and think about this

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and redirect my energy because if it
doesn't feel right, then it's not going

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to heal you. If it doesn't
feel like you're headed in the right direction,

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you can physically start manifesting symptoms of
ill like illness or disease, and

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it can start to constrict your movements
and constrict your energy. Yeah, I

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like that. Would you say that
if we ignore this sixth sense, we

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have more problems in life, We
don't know how to work with people,

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We maybe make poor decisions. Whereas
if you can and your books great at

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this, and we'll talk more about
the exercises for developing intuition. But when

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you have have the gift of intuition, would you say that it is a

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I think is what you are saying. It's a valuable part of your experience.

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Absolutely, no matter what you're looking
at in life, no matter what

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you're doing, no matter what state
you're in, no matter what you're trying

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to decide, using your intuition is
so valuable. No matter what you're doing,

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using your intuition is going to help
you and it's going to help those

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around you. So if you're constantly, you know, feeling like you're battling,

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or if you're constantly, you know, going like this up against other

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people, then maybe you're you're in
with the wrong group, or maybe what

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they're trying to tell you to do
doesn't feel quite right. Maybe you need

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to switch jobs, you know,
maybe you need to find a different career,

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even maybe it's time to move to
physically move where you live. But

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absolutely you need to You need to
tune into your intuition, need to start

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recognizing it and owning it. Yeah, we're gonna get into some exercises.

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I was curious, Melanie, as
I was reading your book, can you

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use a shortcut when you want to
access your intuition? And when I say

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shortcut, can you use your momentary
intention? And if you have an example

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of this grade if it's not,
if it's a shortcut, that doesn't work.

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Let me know. But I was
thinking, you know what, I'm

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in a place I need to find
some information. I haven't really worked with

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my intuition. I do hear things, I'm not sure I accept them.

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But if I sit and close my
eyes and intend to have something happen,

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does that work? You know?
It does? Sometimes sometimes it doesn't.

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So it people will ask me,
well, if I'm trying to tune into

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my intuition, I don't hear anything, or if I don't see anything,

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then what's wrong? Why isn't it
working. Sometimes it's because you're not receiving

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the information. Sometimes it's because it's
not something that's for you, and maybe

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you're doing something in the wrong place, or you're not even supposed to be

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where you're at at that moment,
or you're asking the wrong questions. But

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sometimes it's as simple as you just
said. You know, if I wanted

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to find something, if I went
in, say, you know, I

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see a bunch of books behind you
there. If you want to find if

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you wanted to find a book,
you know, if you're looking for a

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specific book, and you know,
let's pretend you had the whole library of

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books surrounding you all around and you
weren't sure where that book was. Ask

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your intuition to help guide you physically. You may start to feel kind of

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a nudge in one direction over the
other, or you may even here look

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up, you know, you may
have to look up because it's up on

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a top shelf. I've had situations. I had one person who told me

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that they're the book they were looking
for, which happened to be my book

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fell off the shelf. Like it
can happen. These things can happen,

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you know. I was doing a
reading one day and I was talking to

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somebody and they kept denying that whoever
I was tuning into was there. And

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they kept saying, no, that
doesn't sound like them, it doesn't sound

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like them. And I finally said, okay, I need to know what

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kind of a sign you need to
hear, you know, to let you

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know that it's really them, because
they just keep coming at me and letting

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me know that it's them. But
I understand if you're not getting it,

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you know, I understand if it's
not resonating with you, because a lot

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of times people want a specific answer
or a specific sign. And all of

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a sudden I had something fly off
my desk right in front of them.

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And I looked at her and I
said, I think they're letting you know

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they're here. And she said,
oh my god, they're here. Like

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I love to hear those actually would
have done. Yeah, real quickly.

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I it sounds to me that when
you knowledge your sixth sense, and you

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were going to talk about some exercises
here in a minute and some examples that

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you open yourself up to not only
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Right, absolutely talk about that.
Because we briefly talked about heaven or

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the other side, which is where
we when we leave body and we go

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to the next level. That's another
area. But it sounds like this is

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a very very very important gift that
we are all blessed with. Who are

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those of us in the physical body, and it's like you got to use

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it or you know, things are
not going to go very well. So,

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I mean, when you're talking about
the other realms, I'm not sure

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exactly what you mean, but let
me try and answer that. Well,

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let me just give you an example, like the one of the big topics

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that we have here is the Akashak
records. Yeah, and we've had experts

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talk about this, I still do
not know how to tap in. It's

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almost like you have to kind of
say, I want to connect with the

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Akashuak records to learn about this or
learn about that. It's this database,

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this cloud storage system, is what
I've been told, where the past,

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the president of the future all is
held. Well, how on the hell

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do you tap into it? But
anyhow, the example is the Akashik records,

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one of them. Okay, so
what happens for me is kind of

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the same thing as the Akashak records, where it's the past, the present,

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and the future. Right, I'm
going to give you another example about

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why that works. Why tuning into
the Kashak records works. I was trained

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and am a certified Coordinate remote viewer. Oh okay, yeah, so way

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back and way back in time,
you know, like three decades ago,

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when I had set about to do
all the learning that I can, you

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know, I was very right and
left brain. So I had to find

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out the science behind it. I
had to start to understand why it worked.

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How can I possibly you know,
know anything about you or about your

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you know, ancestors, or about
your guides, and how can I possibly

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tell you what's going to happen in
your future. I needed to know.

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So I studied and became certified in
coordinate Remote Viewing, which is a process

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that was developed by Ingo Swan back
in the sixties with Sanford Institute and a

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talk about prolific. He was a
prolific psychic, and he worked with the

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government and the scientists and researchers from
Sanford Research Institute to create this program.

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And it works with the government because
it's very organized. So it's not just

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you saying, oh, you know, woo woo, this is what I'm

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getting. It's this is how you
write it down, this is what you

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ask for, this is how it
comes to you. And it's got a

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very specific protocol to follow because again
it's the government, but you learn the

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science behind it and part of the
science behind it. Now, don't get

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me wrong. I kept jumping ahead
to like they're called targets, to look

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right at the next target. And
I kept jumping ahead because I am psychic,

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so I would see the next one
after I was done with the first

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one, so much so that my
instructors, you know, almost yelled at

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me in front of the whole group
of you know, hundreds of people because

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they told me I kept ruining the
next target, and they had to keep

416
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changing the next target because I was
saying it out loud. But anyway,

417
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so the way that it works is
that you go outside of yourself, distant

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in space and time, and you
gather information and data and you bring it

419
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.960
back. Now, how is that
possible? How could you possibly do that?

420
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Whether it's going back in time,
whether it's going somewhere else in the

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current time in the present but somewhere
else across the world, or going somewhere

422
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in the future, or all of
the above. And it's because of our

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timeline. It's not just a straight
line. It folds back and forth on

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itself all the time. So we're
able to access this data. And it's

425
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.840
the same thing with the Aclashic records. You're able to access this data because

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our space time continuum like, it's
all kind of going like this all the

427
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time, and we just have to
know how to access it. So a

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long joint out answer is there are
many ways to access this information, and

429
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you can also use your helpers,
your guides. We all have a bunch

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of guides around us. We have
guides for I always start with the joy

431
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guides. We can ask our joy
guides to help bring us joy during the

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day, to help us lap,
you know, to bring up that energy

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for us. And then we can
ask our other guides, whatever they may

434
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.719
be, our finance guides, to
help us with you know, a cash

435
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:13.079
flow issue we're having. We have
guides that are just standing by waiting for

436
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you to ask them for things.
Then we have already ceased loved ones.

437
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And you know, I always joke
that my mom was a fantastic person.

438
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She was my best friend, and
she was also an amazing critical care nurse.

439
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.960
She was the head nurse of a
critical care unit. And she was

440
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.039
a natural healer. She used to
do laying on of hands before it was

441
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:40.280
a thing right. And would I
ask her for help with financial issues or

442
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:45.400
with money problems, Absolutely not,
because she was terrible with money. But

443
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:49.239
I would ask her for help with
healing and for help with you know,

444
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:52.679
loving and loving other people and you
know, being able to share energy with

445
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other people. I would one hundred
percent ask her for that. But I

446
00:38:55.039 --> 00:38:59.840
would never ask her for help with
money issues. She was terrible with money.

447
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.079
So you know, your deceased loved
ones are over there, but don't

448
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.480
give them more credit than they need
to have. You can use your guides

449
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:12.760
or other people for that, would
you say, And I'm just curious about

450
00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:19.360
your answer. Are we supposed to
be working with the unseen guides simply because

451
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:23.519
they know us very well? Or
are they just I mean part of the

452
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mix, you know, I mean
they're there and you can and you can't

453
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:30.519
use them. I don't know.
What do you say a little bit of

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both? You know, I believe
and our lifetime will never use all our

455
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:40.360
guides because there's so many out there
that know us, that know about us,

456
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:45.599
but they also know how we relate
in the universe and how our energy

457
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:51.599
has transferred from one physical body to
the next over time. So our guides

458
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are there not because they knew us
this lifetime in person. Usually they've never

459
00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:01.360
been here, or shouldn't say that. Usually they've never been here with us,

460
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:06.079
But they know who we are and
they follow us from lifetime to lifetime.

461
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:10.639
So yeah, we should absolutely use
them. So they may not know

462
00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:16.800
us now, but they knew us
in another lifetime or they were signed to

463
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:22.480
us as in a script and then
when we incarnated, these are the guides

464
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:27.320
that are with us. Yeah,
we have guides that carry through lifetimes with

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us. So they absolutely know us. I always say the other side of

466
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:35.400
the universe, they know us,
they know our energy, but they didn't

467
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physically. They weren't physically like my
brother or my sister, or my mother

468
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or my grandfather. Right, so
they know who we are, and yes,

469
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there are science us. They're also
assigned to other people kind of thing.

470
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.039
You know. It's not just that
they're only here for me, but

471
00:40:51.119 --> 00:40:53.920
they're here whenever I need them,
just like yours are. They're there whenever

472
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:59.519
you need them. Yeah. Uh, I wonder if you have a book

473
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:05.440
on that, Melanie, because it's
a subject. I've written nine books,

474
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:08.480
so I know you're like something in
there. It's like, Cliff, I

475
00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:15.559
just got the idea for my next
book. Okay, let's talk about some

476
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of the different types of intuition.
And it was really amazed that there are

477
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:25.880
so many. There's clairvoyance, clear
audience, and so forth. Let's talk

478
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.880
about a few of them. And
if you wouldn't mind, let's give our

479
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:37.800
listeners an idea of what that means
with an example. So let's let's stand.

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Let's give up the most obvious,
the most well known, which is

481
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clairvoyance. What is clairvoyance and what
does it feel like? So clairvoyance comes

482
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from Claire, which means clear,
clear and clear sight. So clear vision.

483
00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.840
So think about your third eye.
Your third eye is right here,

484
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.679
located, you know, right above
your eyebrows, kind of in the center

485
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:08.440
of your forehead, and that's your
third eye. When we talk about being

486
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:15.400
able to use your clairvoyance or see
things, you're not necessarily seeing externally.

487
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.079
It's internally, so you see things
in your mind. And that can actually

488
00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:25.840
cause us a lot of doubt because
often it feels like our imagination yes,

489
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:32.119
yes, right, so it makes
us not trust what we see. One

490
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:37.239
thing I tell my clients and my
students when I teach is that our imagination

491
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.880
is actually very important to psychic ability
or to intuition, because if we can't

492
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.239
visualize something internally in our mind,
then we're they're not going to be able

493
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:49.119
to send it to us. And
what I mean when I say send it

494
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.239
to us, our guides are loved
ones on the other side, angels,

495
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:55.559
you know, whatever it is that
you believe in, even information from the

496
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:00.440
Ecashic records, we may not be
able to receive the information if we can't

497
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.000
visualize it or if we're not able
to see it in our mind's eye.

498
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:13.119
So most often what happens is they'll
send us symbolic information or symbolic imagery.

499
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.199
So think about it this way,
you're not It's very rare for people to

500
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:22.719
see like a full fledged movie kind
of image or imagery, a full movie

501
00:43:23.199 --> 00:43:30.000
in you know, full technicolor as
a clairvoyant vision. It happened sometimes,

502
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:32.719
but it doesn't happen that often.
Usually what happens is it's more like a

503
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:36.440
flash, like a polaroid picture.
All of a sudden, you have a

504
00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:43.519
picture in our mind, okay,
And oftentimes what happens is it's symbolic picture.

505
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:45.440
So when I first started doing this
work, I would have people ask

506
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:47.719
me, do you think I'm going
to stay with my husband forever? Do

507
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.800
you think that they're going to be
my forever person? Right? Am I

508
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:52.960
ever going to be happy with?
You know? Am I ever going to

509
00:43:53.039 --> 00:43:57.719
find my person? That kind of
thing? Yeah? And I started realizing

510
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.880
that, and it was the strangest
thing for me. And you know,

511
00:44:01.559 --> 00:44:07.079
ninety nine point nine percent of people
will never have this as their symbolic image.

512
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.199
But I started realizing that if I
saw this. I don't know where

513
00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:15.960
it came from. But if I
saw this image of this like run of

514
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:19.920
a house with a big porch that
was set into like the red rocks in

515
00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:24.320
Arizona, and I saw two people
on rocking chairs in the front, then

516
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.039
I knew that they would be together
a long time. But if I saw

517
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:31.239
the rocking chairs and I saw them
empty, or if I saw just one

518
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:35.360
person, then I knew that they
weren't going to be together for a long

519
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.239
time. And then I started to
realize that if I saw the one person,

520
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then usually it was because they lost
their spouse or they lost their significant

521
00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:49.280
other, like through death right.
I don't know where that you know why.

522
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.000
I mean, most people would say, oh, well, I see

523
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:54.000
a wedding ring, you know,
or I see like hands holding or I

524
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.159
see the church, or I see
them holding hands when they're old. But

525
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.920
that's my symbolism, that's my imagery. I don't know why that happened,

526
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:06.880
but that's something that I've held onto
for the past thirty years. Wow.

527
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:10.760
Yeah, And a lot of times
what happens, or quite often what happens,

528
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:16.480
is that everybody will receive imagery in
our mind's eye, and at first

529
00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:21.119
it might seem like our imagination.
So I tell people, if you're not

530
00:45:21.199 --> 00:45:25.280
sure, ask for validation, oh, Eric, ask for another image,

531
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:30.159
or ask to hear something to help
you understand that that was real. Even

532
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.039
ask for an external sign to help
you understand that that was real, that

533
00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.880
what you saw was real and it
wasn't just your imagination. M amazing.

534
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:47.119
We're going to take a short commercial
break to allow our sponsors to identify themselves,

535
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:52.400
and we will return shortly with my
guest today, Melanie Barnum in her

536
00:45:52.440 --> 00:46:38.199
new book Real Life Intuition. We
shall be right back. My guest today

537
00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:44.079
is author Melanie Barnum, who has
written a new book called Real Life Intuition,

538
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:51.199
and she is chronicling the stories of
her clients who have experienced intuition in

539
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:59.679
important settings, relationships, work,
and living in the human condition. There's

540
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:07.280
so many any of these interesting techniques
and symbology. Claire, audience is a

541
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.559
sound, right, yeah? Talk
about that? And can you give us

542
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.840
an example of one of your people
in your book who had this experience?

543
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:21.760
Sure so, Claire, audience means
clear hearing, and it can be a

544
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:25.199
name, it can be a sound, it can be a word, it

545
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.800
can be music. One of the
people in my book, I believe it

546
00:47:30.840 --> 00:47:36.239
may have even been a couple of
people had experiences where they were driving and

547
00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:40.039
they stopped at a stoplight or at
a stop sign and the light turned green,

548
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.079
and they had the kids in the
back and the wife in the front

549
00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:50.719
seat, and he essentially just sat
there even though the light had turned green,

550
00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:52.760
and everybody kind of said, you
know, dad, what are you

551
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:54.880
doing? Hey, honey, what
are you doing? Like the light's green,

552
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:57.559
let's go, It's gonna move on. He's like, no, I

553
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.840
heard stop, And all of a
sudden, carload full of kids went flying

554
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:05.840
through the red light. So not
only did he save the lives of the

555
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.920
people he was with, but he
also saved the lives of that carload full

556
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:15.519
of kids. So and I just
got goosebumps. So that's validation again that

557
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.000
what I'm telling you is true,
inaccurated, that spirit's coming through. You'll

558
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:21.320
see me do this a lot.
Also, that's energy. So you you

559
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.639
know, as a person, may
also I don't have bugs. I swear

560
00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:28.920
to you, there's no bugs up
here, but I just get really tingly

561
00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.360
and you know, itches me.
So you may also get that or goosebumps.

562
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:37.840
But they heard to stop, even
though they were ready to go,

563
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.480
they had the green light, they
heard to stop. So that's a good

564
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:45.920
case of listening to your Claire audience. Wow, I love that again.

565
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.559
I also, I'm sorry. I
also just remembered another story of a police

566
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.719
officer that told me a couple of
stories, and one of them was that

567
00:48:53.760 --> 00:49:00.559
he had pulled somebody over because they
matched a description or I'm not exactly the

568
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:04.719
reason, but he had pulled somebody
over and the person that he pulled over

569
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:07.400
was super nice who said, you
know, license registration. They said,

570
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:10.719
okay, no problem. And he's
reaching over to get the license registration out

571
00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:15.039
of the glove compartment, and he
heard that. The police officer heard,

572
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.960
watch the hands, watch the hands, and he thought to himself, he

573
00:49:20.039 --> 00:49:22.199
was watching the hand reach over to
get it. But then he looked down

574
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:28.119
inside the door and next to the
pat next to the driver's side window,

575
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.400
the guy was pulling up a gun. So he's reaching over to get the

576
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.440
license of registration and at the same
time he's pulling up a gun. So

577
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.039
you know, you want to talk
about life saving events and life saving Claire

578
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:47.679
Audion experiences. See. I love
those examples because Those are not high in

579
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:55.199
the sky. Those are functioning signs
that are integrated into the condition of the

580
00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.840
person. Yeah. Absolutely, and
they're so relevant, I guess is the

581
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:08.079
word I'm trying to use that.
You know, we don't think about the

582
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:13.599
event like, oh my god,
I was just told something. Oh forget,

583
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.320
I don't have to worry about it. It's like, those are the

584
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:22.760
signs that it's working right and that
we are the receiver, which is huge

585
00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.840
now. You know. What's also
interesting is that sometimes we receive information and

586
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:30.800
we don't know what the outcome would
have been if we didn't listen to it.

587
00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:37.000
So there's another story in there,
which I believe is a Claire sentience

588
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.159
story. Claire sentience is when you
just feel things right, you just feel

589
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:45.760
things, and I believe it.
Her name was Beth, and Beth talked

590
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:51.800
about how she was scheduled to go
on a road trip with her mom to

591
00:50:51.800 --> 00:50:54.719
go visit her brother, and at
the last second, she just felt with

592
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:59.519
all her beings, she felt like
she needed to not go. That was

593
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.760
it. There was no reason.
There was nothing that she could see on

594
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:07.440
the on the news or on the
radio about traffic. There was nothing wrong

595
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:09.079
with her mom there was nothing wrong
with her brother or his family. She

596
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:15.000
had no evidence, no basis to
know why she felt like, all of

597
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:16.840
a sudden she felt like she could
not go. They were not going that

598
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.800
day. They could go another day, she knew, but they could not

599
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.639
go that day. She just felt
it with like all the way from her

600
00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:24.920
head down to her toe. She
just felt it in her body. It

601
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.599
was not a good idea. And
so, you know, she broke the

602
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:30.960
news to her mom and her brother
and they said, okay, I get

603
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.679
it, and they went, you
know, like the next week or something.

604
00:51:35.920 --> 00:51:40.320
But here's the thing. She never
figured out why she didn't go.

605
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.599
So was it because she would have
gotten into an accident? Right? Was

606
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.719
it because you know, her family
would have gotten into a huge life altering

607
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.920
fight. Was there something really bad
that was going to happen? She knows,

608
00:51:55.079 --> 00:51:59.079
you know, she felt it deep
down in her soul. She felt

609
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.039
that it was going to be bad. There was there was some reason that

610
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:06.239
she could not go. So we'll
have times like that too, like we'll

611
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.199
trust our intuition and people say,
well, what do you do with that?

612
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:13.039
And I said, will you be
thankful? We thank the universe for

613
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:19.400
stopping something bad? Or something from
happening that would have kept you on a

614
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:22.559
different path or would have made you
stray from where you're supposed to be,

615
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:27.639
even if you don't know why,
just be thankful that it happened and it's

616
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:31.880
okay. You know, it's so
funny. It's almost like we should have

617
00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:42.159
a college course or grammar school preparation
where intuition is, you know, part

618
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:46.679
of the learning. You know,
it's like, okay, we you know,

619
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:50.320
we'll practice and we're gonna use,
we're gonna practice. We're gonna talk

620
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:55.360
about some exercises here in a minute. But uh, to fine tune these

621
00:52:55.400 --> 00:53:01.039
intuitive senses because they're so critical.
I mean, you're talking about life and

622
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:07.719
death and a few examples, but
absolutely, what about simple acknowledging if this

623
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.480
is a good move or not,
or a good relationship or as you said

624
00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:16.440
in the very beginning, is this
job right for me? I don't feel

625
00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:22.360
right? Is this unwillness part of
the sense that I shouldn't do the workers

626
00:53:22.559 --> 00:53:28.480
up there? You know, it's
like so much that and we're so numb

627
00:53:29.000 --> 00:53:31.000
to a lot of this, you
know, just because it's like I'd rather

628
00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:35.400
have a beer or I'd rather have
a joint or I'd rather drop some masst

629
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:38.800
or something. Yeah. Absolutely,
absolutely, And a lot of times,

630
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.519
you know, people do a lot
of shrooms mushrooms nowadays. Yeah, And

631
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:47.280
it's not just for you know,
the psychedelic effects anymore. It's also because

632
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:52.079
it helps some people. And I'm
not advocating either way, but it helps

633
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:57.000
some people to kind of tune in, right, And people are using these

634
00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.920
things for a different reason. Now, it's not just to get stolen or

635
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:06.920
to get hot, right, Yeah, And sometimes that's what it takes to

636
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:15.039
to realize that you're having an intuitive
experience. So, no matter what your

637
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:16.760
situation is, whether it's you know, you're trying to figure out where to

638
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:21.920
leave your job or whether to take
a new job. If it doesn't feel

639
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.360
right and your stomach is like all
clenched up, ask why why is it

640
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:28.880
clenched up? Is because I'm not
supposed to leave? Or is it because

641
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.840
it's making me sick to stay there? Ask for more validation, Ask for

642
00:54:31.960 --> 00:54:36.840
verification, because if you don't pay
attention, you are going to manifest some

643
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.320
kind of you know, sickness,
or at the very least, you're not

644
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:44.000
going to be happy. And what's
life if you're not happy. Right,

645
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.679
The more the more we're able to
enjoy our lives, the more joy will

646
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:52.280
bring to other people as well.
And imagine if just five people. Now

647
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.519
I'm getting a little preachy here,
but imagine if just five people we're able

648
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:00.199
to spread joy to five other people. Yeah, you know, I think

649
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.519
about how far that can go.
I I'd like to hear an example of

650
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:09.119
somebody who was in a relationship who
thought it was great, but then they

651
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:14.400
got to maybe you can't address this, But I hear this all the time.

652
00:55:14.519 --> 00:55:17.679
Somebody is in a relationship and they're
like, I don't feel good with

653
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:22.199
this person, but I love them, you know what I mean. And

654
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:27.320
we see this with relatives. You
know, my Aunt Jane, I can't

655
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.960
stand being around her, but I
want to show respect. So for this.

656
00:55:31.159 --> 00:55:35.760
You know, it's funny because it's
more. I see it more with

657
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:39.119
like direct relatives where you're like,
get the hell away from me. You're

658
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:43.880
toxic, you know. But you
hate to say that to somebody. You

659
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.599
would never say, Aunt Jane,
you're so toxic. I can't deal with

660
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.679
you. You know. If you
got to the point where you're saying it,

661
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:55.599
things are really bad. But talk
a little bit about relationships, and

662
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:01.239
you know, say you're in a
you're married to somebody and just becoming a

663
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:05.239
problem. You know, what do
you do? You go to therapy,

664
00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:09.119
But even the therapist is like,
well, you know and you and that's

665
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:15.039
such a huge thing. Any relationship
is a major commitment, you know,

666
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:22.800
on all these different levels. You
know, yeah, absolutely so. I

667
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:29.239
have a client who you know,
they're in love, that she's in love

668
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:34.800
with her boyfriend or her fiance and
vice versa. They're in love. But

669
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.119
she just kept saying, you know, I just I have this really bad

670
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:40.800
feeling. I don't know why,
Like, nothing has happened, nothing bad

671
00:56:40.800 --> 00:56:45.960
has happened. You know, we
get along great, everything's good. And

672
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:49.599
I said, look, you really
need to start trusting your intuition. If

673
00:56:49.639 --> 00:56:52.719
you're having a bad feeling about something, you really need to start trusting your

674
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:58.480
intuition. And I didn't tell her, you know there's something going on.

675
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:02.320
I said, start start thinking about
what you think it is, start feeling

676
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:07.000
what it is. Start listening to
the universe telling you why are you having

677
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:12.880
this bad feeling? And sure enough, that night she went home and she

678
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:15.960
grabbed his phone after he went to
sleep, and she started looking at his

679
00:57:16.320 --> 00:57:22.800
things and realize that he was having
an affair and it wasn't just an affair,

680
00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:25.519
it was an affair with somebody that
she was friends with. And this

681
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.039
had been going on for a while. So did she have any evidence was

682
00:57:30.079 --> 00:57:36.079
he acting differently towards her? No, but she knew, so she listened

683
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:42.960
to her intuition. And it's really
really hard to leave somebody without having that

684
00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:49.400
evidence. It's very difficult to trust
yourself enough without having evidence. And she

685
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:52.599
had, you know, debated back
and forth about what she should do before

686
00:57:52.639 --> 00:57:55.599
she found that evidence because she just
felt it. She felt like something was

687
00:57:58.639 --> 00:58:01.880
maybe deceitful, but she wasn't sure
what it was because she couldn't figure out

688
00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:07.320
how it was possible. And then
she realized what was going on. So

689
00:58:07.559 --> 00:58:12.320
it's very very difficult in those situations. And I always tell people, you

690
00:58:12.360 --> 00:58:14.840
know, take what I say first
of all in my readings. Take what

691
00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.519
I say with a grain of salt. But tap into your own intuition,

692
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:22.639
your own vibes, and if you
feel like somebody's toxic, like Aunt Jane,

693
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:24.880
stay away from them. You know, you don't need to put yourself

694
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:30.000
in that position. And if they
get too close to you back away.

695
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:34.199
You know, if you're at some
kind of a family function, you don't

696
00:58:34.199 --> 00:58:36.559
need to sit there and talk to
them. Back away from them, Go

697
00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:38.760
to somebody else, Go hang out
with somebody that you actually like and that

698
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:43.079
you feel drawn too. You know, there's different ways to handle things,

699
00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.639
and rather than stay away from the
whole family because of that one person,

700
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:54.880
just stay away from them. How
do you approach a situation where you're in

701
00:58:54.920 --> 00:59:01.719
a council therapist's role and a client
is coming you and say, I really

702
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:09.920
like this guy. He's fun,
he's uh, cares and he seems attentive

703
00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:16.440
of me, but you pick up
a real bad vibe about the person.

704
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:22.199
Oh yeah, it's happened many many
times. But I mean, how especially

705
00:59:22.239 --> 00:59:25.559
when somebody's you know, desperate to
be and there's a lot of men and

706
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:30.360
women who are like will block their
intuition because of course I gotta have a

707
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:35.639
relationship. Yeah, of course,
they really want they really want to be

708
00:59:35.679 --> 00:59:38.079
happy, they want to be in
that relationship. So usually you know,

709
00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:40.960
if they tell me, you know
about this person or this guy or this

710
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:46.840
woman, and you know they tell
me about that they're really into them,

711
00:59:47.280 --> 00:59:50.760
I'll say, oh, well that's
good. So you know, you know,

712
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.000
you know what you're into, you
know what you want, and you

713
00:59:54.000 --> 00:59:57.679
know this one might not might not
last that long, but okay, go

714
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:00.960
out on a date or two and
see how who goes. You know,

715
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:05.320
if it's well, you say something
like that, well I just don't see

716
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:07.480
you with that person very long?
Or do you just are you very more

717
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:13.159
casual? Because I mean that could
be devastating for someone who's thinking this is

718
01:00:13.199 --> 01:00:16.360
the one. If somebody comes straight
out and says, what do you think

719
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:21.760
about this person? I'll tell them, look, I'm not right now.

720
01:00:22.119 --> 01:00:24.519
I'm not really seeing the potential of
a forever person. It may not be

721
01:00:24.639 --> 01:00:29.280
your forever guy, but it doesn't
mean you shouldn't explore it. If you're

722
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:32.440
feeling really drawn to them, explore
it and maybe that'll change. Okay.

723
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:37.679
And usually they come back and say, you know what, you were right,

724
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.880
I'm done with them. I shouldn't
be laughing, because I bet you

725
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:45.599
it's all I mean. I would
think that you know, somebody took it

726
01:00:45.639 --> 01:00:51.039
too far, wasn't paying attention to
their intuition. Because if it's really fine

727
01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:58.119
tuned, you're gonna know pretty quick. But if your the heart is overshadowing

728
01:00:58.159 --> 01:01:04.039
the mind or the tool. Then
you're like with somebody for all of a

729
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:07.639
sudden forever. I mean, do
you ever get in a situation where you're

730
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:14.840
like, the person has almost in
an abusive situation but just can't move on.

731
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:21.159
Yeah? Yeah, And it's sad
because there's there's reasons behind there not

732
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:23.119
moving on. You know, there's
there's a reason that's keeping them there.

733
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:27.320
And so rather than saying, look, you need to get out of this

734
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:30.519
relationship right this second, I'll say, look what, let's talk about what's

735
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:32.519
holding you back? Right? You
know you're telling you that you're in an

736
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:37.039
abusive situation. What are you getting
from this relationship that's keeping you there?

737
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:40.039
Is it? Is it financial?
Is it because you feel like you deserve

738
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:45.800
to be abused? Is it because
you're scared? Is it because you know

739
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:47.639
they're a big part of the family
already? Is it because of the kids?

740
01:01:49.679 --> 01:01:52.280
What is it? Let's let's explore
the why behind why you don't want

741
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:54.840
to leave them. If you're telling
me that you know that you should,

742
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:59.239
so I mean, there's you know, there's other ways to go about it.

743
01:02:00.360 --> 01:02:02.079
Look, it's easy for me sitting
behind my desk or you know,

744
01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:07.719
sitting behind the camera saying, dude, get over him, you need to

745
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:12.800
move on. That's easy for me. Yeah, with his entire life right,

746
01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:19.239
Oh my god, I can't imagine. And kids, Oh amazing.

747
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:24.400
The books called Real Life Intuition Extraordinary
stories from people who listen to their inner

748
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:30.039
voice. And I'm speaking with Melanie
Barnum. I want to go over a

749
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:37.639
few of the exercises because I think
they're fantastic and it really is such a

750
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:43.239
great addition, and it's great that
you did that because people can go I

751
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:46.599
really have this sense using this part
of my intuition, or this part.

752
01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:52.119
Let's talk about claire audience and this
is I didn't think you'd do this.

753
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:58.159
It's like listening to music. Talk
about that, now, how does that

754
01:02:59.119 --> 01:03:05.679
because obviously that's it's an audible sense
that it's tuned for you. But talk

755
01:03:05.719 --> 01:03:12.280
about the exercises involved in that form
of intuition. So one of the things,

756
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.239
and I think this is probably in
my book, but one of the

757
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.960
exercises that you can do to tune
into your clear audience ability is like you

758
01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:22.400
said, to listen to music,
listen to the actual lyrics. It doesn't

759
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:25.760
matter what the song is or where
it comes from. Listen to the actual

760
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:30.559
lyrics, because if you're having a
hard time and now, granted a lot

761
01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:34.199
of music, you can't understand the
words. But if you're having a really

762
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.079
hard time discerning what they're saying,
then it can be the same thing.

763
01:03:37.159 --> 01:03:40.119
If you're trying to get information from
the universe, you won't be able to

764
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:45.079
discern it as well. Oh okay, so start really paying attention and really

765
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:50.480
listening with your you know, physical
ears. Listen to the lyrics, and

766
01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:52.760
then take it a step further.
Ask yourself, you know, turn off

767
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.440
the radio. Ask a question that
you want an answer to. Ask the

768
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:00.679
universe a question, you know,
am I going to write another book?

769
01:04:01.239 --> 01:04:05.440
Is it in my best interest?
Actually, I tend to tell people to

770
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:09.559
stay away from the yes or nos, because we can always have a yes

771
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:12.639
answer and a no answer. It's
just a question whether it's good for us,

772
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:15.400
or whether it's you know, on
our path, or whether it's something

773
01:04:15.480 --> 01:04:21.719
that will bring out our greatest potential. So say, if I wanted to

774
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:27.559
ask the universe if I should write
another book, you know, or will

775
01:04:27.559 --> 01:04:30.800
it be in my best interest?
Or will it, you know, increase

776
01:04:30.920 --> 01:04:34.840
my potential? Or will it be
good for my audience for me to write

777
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:41.199
another book. Okay, and then
turn on the radio and the first song

778
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:45.119
you hear, listen to the lyrics
because that can be a way to help

779
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:48.400
you tune in and understand what they're
trying to say. I love that.

780
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:56.480
So that's that's the the universe saying
okay, we will tell her through this

781
01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.480
music or through this lyric. And
you know, you might not hear that

782
01:05:00.559 --> 01:05:04.639
all the time. You might once
you start to understand where the information is

783
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:09.119
coming from the other side, or
your guides or you know, the the

784
01:05:09.239 --> 01:05:13.079
universal energy that we're all connected to. Then you don't have to have an

785
01:05:13.079 --> 01:05:17.000
actual radio because the radio becomes your
Clavo, your Claire audience, your inner

786
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:23.360
ear and you know, say say
you wanted to know, you know,

787
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:32.760
are do people? Do people appreciate
my podcasts? And all of a sudden,

788
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:35.760
you know, you hear the words
of Aretha Franklin and there saying r

789
01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:41.079
E sp CD. So they're like, yes, you know, they're telling

790
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:44.199
you right then and there they're saying, yes that you're getting the respect you

791
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:49.639
deserve. They respect what you're doing. I love that. That's so wonderful.

792
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:55.400
Uh, let's go on to another
one. And this is probably gonna

793
01:05:55.440 --> 01:06:01.159
be easiest. Just simple clairvoyance.
And you say, practice using your imagination.

794
01:06:01.320 --> 01:06:04.360
Now, how does that work?
Because I would think that can get

795
01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:10.039
to extreme. You can go overboard
with your imagination. Some of us are

796
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.039
like, I mean, I'm a
very I'm an artist, so I'm like,

797
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.960
oh, sure, I could whatever
you want. I can think about,

798
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.920
you know, but how do you
pull that in and use it more

799
01:06:20.159 --> 01:06:26.119
specifically? So for you, Cliff, as an artist, you probably already

800
01:06:26.199 --> 01:06:29.559
use it all the time because a
lot of what happens with artists is they

801
01:06:29.639 --> 01:06:32.119
see things clairvoyantly and they channel things
in their art. Whether it's you know,

802
01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:36.800
you're creating out a play or you're
painting whatever it is, you're getting

803
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:41.480
it and kind of seeing it in
your mind's eye, right, Yeah,

804
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:46.519
So to use or to practice your
clairvoyant ability, you can use your imagination.

805
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:51.599
So think about your car. If
you have a car, think about

806
01:06:51.639 --> 01:06:58.599
your car and envision what it looks
like on the outside. See the color,

807
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:06.519
see the headlights, Look and see
whether the bumper is the same color

808
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.840
as the rest of the car.
Okay, and then we can take take

809
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:14.880
it a step further. Look at
the license plate on the car, whether

810
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:16.920
it's on the front or the back
or both. What does the license plate

811
01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:25.199
say? Then go into the car, look at your steering wheel, what

812
01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:30.599
color is it? Look at your
dashboard? What do you see? You

813
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:33.960
can start using your imagination. So
right now you've got an image of your

814
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:39.159
car, you know, silver car. I see the license plate in the

815
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.320
back. You go inside the car, you see that it's a black steering

816
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.000
wheel. You know, whatever it
is. You have that imagery in your

817
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:51.679
mind's eye. Now that same space
that you used to imagine what your car

818
01:07:51.719 --> 01:08:00.159
looks like, you can begin to
use for your clairvoyant messages. So think

819
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:03.000
about a question that you may have. You know, should I buy a

820
01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.840
red car or a green car?
And all of a sudden, in your

821
01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:12.960
mind you're seeing this, you know, bright red, super sporty, awesome

822
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:15.199
car. Well there's your answer.
You should probably get a red car,

823
01:08:16.520 --> 01:08:21.720
you know. So when you're able
to imagine and use your imagination, that

824
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:26.840
helps in your psychic abilities or your
intuition. It helps you to be able

825
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:30.039
to tune in and see things in
your mind's eye clearer. Just like listening

826
01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:34.079
to the lyrics in a song,
it helps it to become clearer so that

827
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:39.680
you can understand the information you're being
given. So somebody, and I'm just

828
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:43.760
gonna probably answer my own question,
but you give all these different types of

829
01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:49.399
intuition, and you have exercises for
each one. If someone doesn't really know

830
01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:56.359
what their highest gift is or their
best use of intuition, that's what you've

831
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.479
done, right. You've given them
an opportunity to look at the different types

832
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:08.760
of sensitivities and choose which one feels
right. Is that it? Yeah,

833
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:12.600
and you just said something that I'm
gonna take it a step further. One

834
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:18.600
of the ways that you can see
or you can understand different ways that you're

835
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:25.319
intuition stands out more is to listen
to the way that you speak. And

836
01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:30.600
you just use the word feel,
so you know, think about whether you

837
01:09:30.680 --> 01:09:34.680
say, I feel you, I
see you, I hear you, I

838
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:42.239
understand you, right, I get
it right? Those are great. Yeah,

839
01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:45.199
I just got goosebumps again. So
yeah, total validation. And you

840
01:09:45.239 --> 01:09:49.000
said I feel you know, yeah, if they feel like it something like

841
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:53.039
that, So you know, you
listen to the words that you use.

842
01:09:55.279 --> 01:10:00.720
Wow, amazing real life intuition.
And uh, this has been great,

843
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:05.600
And I have to say, you
have been doing this long enough to really

844
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:12.359
put out what I would really call
not just a book. It's a work

845
01:10:12.439 --> 01:10:17.319
book for self help. Thanks and
it's a real blessing for those of you

846
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:21.960
listening. It's not a monstrous book. It's it's very direct and to the

847
01:10:23.039 --> 01:10:26.800
point, which is even more of
a benefit. Thank you, because some

848
01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:30.840
of these books are five six hundred
pages and you've got to go through and

849
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:35.600
carry morale like an encyclopedia, which
is a little too much. So great

850
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:40.800
job on this. How can people
get a hold of you? Give us

851
01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:45.279
your website and also your YouTube channel. Sure so, Melanie Barnum dot com,

852
01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:49.720
M E l A n I E
b A R n U M dot

853
01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:55.600
com. And you can also find
me on all social media Melanie Barnum Psychic

854
01:10:56.079 --> 01:11:00.520
so Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
although my YouTube I don't have that many

855
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:02.680
videos up right now, but there
are a few there, okay. But

856
01:11:02.760 --> 01:11:06.880
yeah, So anywhere that you can
look up my name, you can find

857
01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:12.239
me. And on your website they
can reach out to you if they want

858
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:15.199
to have a reading, correct,
absolutely, and they can buy books.

859
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:21.239
I also have psychic symbols oracle cards, so you can buy a deck of

860
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:27.000
those. If you want the books, you can get anywhere, but you

861
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:30.600
can definitely get them autographed through me, and you can find out about having

862
01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:33.560
a reading for sure. And we
should all let people know that the book

863
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:38.479
will not be out until the eighth, so you could pre order it now

864
01:11:39.199 --> 01:11:42.520
and I guess it'll show up the
day after the eighth or ninth or whatever.

865
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:45.399
So if you're going to your local
bookstore, if you're going on Amazon,

866
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:49.359
March eighth is the date. If
you're ordering for me, you can

867
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:55.279
get them now. I do have
some copies available now. Oh if they

868
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:59.880
order through the website. Yeah,
oh, excellent, fantastic, right,

869
01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.760
amazing, fantastic, real pleasure talking
to you. And by the way,

870
01:12:04.199 --> 01:12:08.920
you're eloquent in your descriptions. Some
people are like, well just feel it

871
01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:12.439
and be done with it. No, It's like no, no, no,

872
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:15.800
no, we want more, we
want more. So why did you

873
01:12:16.119 --> 01:12:21.560
write this book? So you mentioned
that you know this book has exercises.

874
01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:26.640
I've written all my books that have
stories of real readings that I've done for

875
01:12:26.680 --> 01:12:30.399
people, or real events that have
happened that I've had with people that I've

876
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:35.520
experienced through my sessions, and they
all have exercises to help you learn and

877
01:12:35.640 --> 01:12:42.760
understand and practice for your own self
and to discover how intuitive you actually are.

878
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.359
But this time I wanted to write
a book that wasn't just about my

879
01:12:47.479 --> 01:12:50.399
experiences and the readings I've done for
other people, but I wanted to share

880
01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:55.119
with people that everyone is intuitive.
And look, we have a waitress,

881
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:57.880
you know, we have a hairdresser, we have a cop, we have

882
01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.479
a nerse, we have a teacher, we had you know, there's so

883
01:13:01.760 --> 01:13:10.680
many different people in this book that
share their own personal experiences, and sometimes

884
01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:14.079
they didn't even recognize that it was
intuition right away. Sometimes it took them

885
01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.640
a while. You know, there's
somebody in there that just when she was

886
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:21.520
younger, she was walking her dog
and she felt when she saw this guy

887
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:25.760
from way down the road, she
felt like she needed to get out of

888
01:13:25.800 --> 01:13:30.079
there right now. She scooped up
her dog and she ran back home and

889
01:13:30.159 --> 01:13:32.520
locked the door. And as she
was running, she looked back and the

890
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:38.720
guy was chasing her. So,
you know, she realized way back that

891
01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:43.479
she knew and she didn't even realize
that it was her intuition that she had

892
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:45.960
used. She just knew she had
a feeling she had to get away from

893
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.359
this guy. But that's her intuitive
response, that was her intuition. And

894
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:54.600
so I wanted to share these stories, these types of stories with everybody so

895
01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:59.039
that people realize and can relate to
them more that it's not just a professional

896
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:02.479
story, it's worries of real people
that use their intuition. Yeah, you

897
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:05.760
know, it's funny you mentioned the
people in your book. It looks like

898
01:14:06.359 --> 01:14:13.119
you have something like fifty different examples
or more. It's like you have really

899
01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:16.119
gone through there. And I guess
in some cases you have to change their

900
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:21.159
name. They don't want to be
listed, but that's really important because you

901
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:27.600
give great examples. So good for
you. Yeah. Hey, well Melanie,

902
01:14:27.640 --> 01:14:31.840
great to have you and Munch's success
on this book. Thanks so much,

903
01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:39.760
Cliff. It was a great time. I enjoyed it. There is

904
01:14:40.039 --> 01:14:45.960
so much good material in this book
and it's not even out yet. You

905
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.800
got to order it and it's going
to be out in a few days.

906
01:14:49.039 --> 01:14:56.680
I saw it on Amazon Real Life
Intuition, and it's a it's really packed

907
01:14:56.720 --> 01:15:00.640
with my good material as well.
We're having some good published books lately,

908
01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:08.199
both for the Earth the Ancient's Crowd
and for the Destiny Crowd. So check

909
01:15:08.239 --> 01:15:13.159
out this book, get a copy
of it. And if you're like me,

910
01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:19.279
you're always looking to hone your your
subtle intuition, your sixth sense,

911
01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:27.760
and considerate considerate. Now, we
didn't have a lot of extra time to

912
01:15:27.840 --> 01:15:32.720
go over stuff, but she was
Melanie was talking about her et experience.

913
01:15:32.760 --> 01:15:39.399
She's very much involved with the Uapece
situation. The theme of the talk of

914
01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:43.239
the interview was intuition, so we
didn't really get into it. But I

915
01:15:43.319 --> 01:15:50.079
actually saved a portion of her experience
with three beings who came to her home.

916
01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:58.560
And here's a couple of minutes of
this interview that I did not add

917
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.640
to the main portion of the show, but here it is right here to

918
01:16:01.640 --> 01:16:10.039
have a quick listen. You know, it's interesting I never put that timeline

919
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:15.960
together. But now that you're saying
that, I'm wondering if when I was

920
01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:18.560
training with remote viewing and I was
looking at the moon and looking at you

921
01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:24.319
know, Mars, and doing all
these remote viewing things, I'm wondering if

922
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:30.680
my I'll call it a visitation.
I'm wondering if my visitation related to the

923
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:34.319
same stuff that I had just finished
looking at before I got my certification and

924
01:16:34.359 --> 01:16:41.199
stuff. You're making me think about
things now, and maybe maybe that was

925
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:43.399
one of the reasons they reached out. You know, if you have a

926
01:16:43.479 --> 01:16:48.079
visitation, more talk in your head
or did you see something present in your

927
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:53.520
space? So I think I wrote
that about this in my first book.

928
01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:56.840
I'm not positive if it was in
my book of Psychic Symbols or not.

929
01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.800
But when it happened for me,
and it's you know, it can be

930
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.800
a quick story, so I'll just
give it to you really quick. I

931
01:17:03.359 --> 01:17:06.760
mean, I make time for this, so don't worry. Yeah, But

932
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:14.039
when it happened for me, it
was because my daughter, who was about

933
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:16.399
two or three at the time,
kept coming into our room in the middle

934
01:17:16.399 --> 01:17:18.960
of the night because she was terrified
because there was somebody in her room.

935
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.479
And it got to the point where, you know, at first I was

936
01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:24.920
like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, oh my god,

937
01:17:24.960 --> 01:17:27.640
what am I doing? Like she
probably does see dead people, like

938
01:17:27.720 --> 01:17:30.600
she's probably seeing stuff in her room. So you know, we started letting

939
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.920
her come in. But the problem
with that was that I always call her

940
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.960
like a starfish heater, So she'd
go in the middle of our bed,

941
01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:41.319
and you know, she'd put her
arms and her legs out, and she

942
01:17:41.439 --> 01:17:44.960
was like a thousand degrees. And
I finally said, you know what,

943
01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:46.520
I need to get some sleep.
I'm going to go sleep in her room

944
01:17:46.960 --> 01:17:50.479
and you can stay in here with
Daddy. And so I went in her

945
01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:55.760
room one night and I had just
fallen back to sleep. It was like

946
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:58.239
two o'clock in the morning, and
all of a sudden, I heard something.

947
01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:00.199
So I woke up and I sat
up, and I was wide awake,

948
01:18:01.079 --> 01:18:05.039
like wide awake, and I looked
in the middle of her room.

949
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:08.479
And to this day, every time
I talk about it, I get wicked

950
01:18:08.479 --> 01:18:12.199
goose bumps from head to toe.
And I looked to the middle of her

951
01:18:12.279 --> 01:18:14.079
room. Now, like I said, it was the middle of the night,

952
01:18:14.159 --> 01:18:16.159
so it was dark, but it
wasn't pitch black, and it didn't

953
01:18:16.159 --> 01:18:19.640
matter because I could see these three
beings in the middle of the room,

954
01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:24.640
and one of them wasn't the middle
one was very like kind of tall,

955
01:18:24.720 --> 01:18:28.520
but I couldn't see any feet,
and the other two were kind of floating

956
01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:30.520
next to him. And I'm saying
him because that's just kind of what it

957
01:18:30.560 --> 01:18:35.159
felt like. So there were these
two like shorter maybe two and a half

958
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:40.119
feet tall kind of things, floating, but they were all they all looked

959
01:18:40.119 --> 01:18:44.600
the same. And it's almost like
if you can imagine a stocking over your

960
01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:47.319
face, so you can see like
the shape, but you can't really make

961
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:50.439
out the features, right, Yeah, And it was that kind of a

962
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:57.039
face, no hair, and you
could see like where the shoulders were.

963
01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:01.520
But it was like these robes,
just very nondescript. I'd call it like

964
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:06.720
a grays like a beige gray kind
of color. And then it had one

965
01:19:08.119 --> 01:19:13.039
thicker stripe down the middle that was
a little bit darker. They didn't move,

966
01:19:13.439 --> 01:19:15.079
they were just kind of floating there, howevering just staring at me.

967
01:19:15.680 --> 01:19:21.000
And I heard them saying. Now
I heard them. It was telepathically.

968
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:25.520
I could hear them clear as day. When I first woke up, I

969
01:19:25.640 --> 01:19:30.359
heard, Oh, they were talking
to themselves. Yeah, and I was

970
01:19:30.359 --> 01:19:33.680
like, what is that? But
then and that was out loud. I

971
01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:38.760
could hear that out loud, But
then I heard telepathically what they were actually

972
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:44.600
saying, and what they were saying
kind of freaked me out. The little

973
01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:46.439
ones were saying to the big one, but she's a child of God,

974
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:50.159
She's ready, And the big one
was saying she's she is a child of

975
01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:54.399
God, but she's not ready.
And they just kept going back and forth,

976
01:19:54.520 --> 01:19:57.159
and the little ones were but she's
a child of God, she's ready.

977
01:19:57.520 --> 01:19:59.960
She is a child of God.
But she's not ready. But she's

978
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.680
ready, she's a child of God. She's not ready. She is a

979
01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.560
child of God. And it went
back and forth, and the whole time,

980
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:09.439
I'm thinking, excuse my language,
but I'm like, holy shit,

981
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:13.159
like I am not ready to die. You're not taking me. I'm not

982
01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:15.920
going anywhere, Like that's what I
was thinking. And I was thinking,

983
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:17.800
and I'm like, how can I
get rid of them? How can I

984
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.920
tell them to go away? And
I went back to like all my trainings

985
01:20:21.960 --> 01:20:25.760
that said, you know, if
you have a ghost or something, you

986
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:29.039
can tell them to go away and
they'll go away. Yeah, And I

987
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:31.479
started thinking, they're not even aware
that I'm awake, Like they're just looking

988
01:20:31.520 --> 01:20:33.600
at me. They I don't even
know if they know that I'm awake and

989
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:38.960
staring at them, like wide awake, staring at them. And I finally

990
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:43.079
just said go away, I'm not
ready, and this they went away.

991
01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:46.359
The second that they went away,
it was like a switch went off in

992
01:20:46.439 --> 01:20:49.039
my mind, and I knew that
they wanted to give me more of a

993
01:20:49.079 --> 01:20:55.159
download of information. Oh shit,
exactly that was my thought. And I

994
01:20:55.159 --> 01:21:00.319
said, no, no, no, wait, come back. I mean,

995
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:04.560
that's pretty trippy. It really is
three beings and it's so funny.

996
01:21:04.640 --> 01:21:09.680
I've always thought about that. If
you're so fearful of them, and you're

997
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:12.560
like, go away, I don't
want to see you. I don't want

998
01:21:12.600 --> 01:21:15.760
to you know, you're going to
kill me. I need to preserve my

999
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:19.239
existence, and so I don't want
to interact with you and to get that,

1000
01:21:19.600 --> 01:21:25.520
you know, information where we have
something to download to you. I

1001
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:30.000
love that. I love that.
And I have to say this though,

1002
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:33.079
a lot of these interactions with these
off world types, and you hear it

1003
01:21:33.119 --> 01:21:38.520
on with Whitney Streeber. We've heard
a few times here with some of our

1004
01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:42.119
guests who are talking about alien interactions. It's always in the middle of the

1005
01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:45.600
night. It's always late, everyone's
asleep, it's dark. It's like,

1006
01:21:46.199 --> 01:21:53.239
come on, do it in the
daytime, you know, And it's likely

1007
01:21:53.359 --> 01:21:57.640
that they don't want the interference of
the other thinking, the other people,

1008
01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:02.560
the noise, the commuter is the
whatever else is around. But you would

1009
01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:08.119
think they could do it a little
more elegantly because this late night interaction.

1010
01:22:08.640 --> 01:22:13.800
And like I said, I've heard
this a lot, it's just not copasetic.

1011
01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:17.359
It's not good, it doesn't it's
just causes problems because it's dark,

1012
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:20.920
and darkness is the unknown, and
we can't see very well. And we,

1013
01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:25.479
you know, we think everything should
be quiet and there shouldn't be anything

1014
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:30.960
that is functioning or moving around.
And here's these alien beans in the room.

1015
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.359
You know, hey, how are
you? And they're you know,

1016
01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:38.800
telepathically communicating to her, you know, and it's freaky. You know,

1017
01:22:38.920 --> 01:22:44.119
it's like, come on, guys, let's be a little more elegant.

1018
01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.600
Okay, that's my two cents on
that. Anyhow, it was fun to

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have Melanie and I was looking at
her book and we might have to have

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her back because there's a lot we
didn't cover in this thing. But small

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book. How many pages of it
I'm looking at it right now, hundred

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and about one hundred and eighty pages. No excuse me, it's one hundred

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and two hundred. It's two hundred
pages, small compact. I have an

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uncorrected publishers proof they send me.
I get this a lot they'll send me

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a book before it comes out so
I can do my research and then we

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can interview so real life intuition,
extraordinary stories from people who listen to their

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inner voice. That was fun.
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all right, that's it for this
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today, Melanie Bartam and her new
book, Real Life Intuition. As always

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the team of Gail tour, Mark
Foster, and everyone who makes this thing

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happen. You guys rock all right, take care of me well, and

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we will talk to you next time.