1 00:00:07,599 --> 00:00:12,160 Everybody. I've got Don on the line. Don lives in southeast Texas and 2 00:00:12,279 --> 00:00:15,039 he's got some encounters he wants to talk about. I'm kind of coming in 3 00:00:15,119 --> 00:00:18,000 this cold and I don't really know what they are. So we're all going 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,839 to find out together about these events. So Don, how's everything going, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,519 buddy? Oh, I'm I'm great. It's just hot down here in Texas 6 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:31,239 right now, is it? Actually we've had a like eighty five degree temperatures 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,600 for a week. It's kind of and the humidity hasn't been that bad. 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,399 But but man, I know exactly what you're talking about. Hey, tell 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,479 us a little bit about where you live and the environment and the geography and 10 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,320 all of where you grew up. Well, well, I live in uh 11 00:00:46,359 --> 00:00:51,039 in Orange County, Texas. It's a it's right on the border of Louisiana. 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,920 It's very piney and mark swamp area set a lot of pine woods, 13 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,479 oaks. I mean, it's it's it's pretty. It's pretty rough once you 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,799 get off you know, the beaten path of certain areas. Some pretty rough 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,000 terrain out here, especially with the swamp lands, you know, and got 16 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,200 all those credits running around out there. Yeah, or you have you had 17 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:15,719 like a long series of events, or you want to just start at the 18 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,200 beginning and just kind of walk us through. Yeah, there's a couple of 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:25,439 strange happenings, especially out well out in all Field where I live. The 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,359 first one, U and I have some for me and my dad, my 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,359 brother telling me stuff. I mean, if you want me to talk about 22 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,640 that, I can you share with us what you're willing to share. And 23 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,159 we're man, we're all sitting at the table here listening with our ears parked 24 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:42,359 up and ready to go. So you just think it's the floors, You're 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,239 all right. The first thing I'll talk about is when I've seen this thing. 26 00:01:46,799 --> 00:01:49,640 I was a pretty avid rabbit hunter when I was young. I was 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,519 I was I think I was about twelve or thirteen when I've seen this thing. 28 00:01:55,599 --> 00:01:57,879 Out in the all Field, there's different sections of woods, and they 29 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:02,000 were all divided from the old dirt roads that went through the old fields, 30 00:02:02,159 --> 00:02:08,240 so you'd have very large patches of pine wood, you know, wooden lines 31 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:13,479 and stuff around. Right behind our house where we lived, there was a 32 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,479 patch of woods that usually every time I went out rabbit hunting, I could 33 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,360 at least kill three rabbits right there, and it was a smaller It was 34 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,560 a smaller patch of wood. I had a bunch of tallow trees and stuff 35 00:02:25,599 --> 00:02:30,039 in there. Well, that night, I've decided, you know, I 36 00:02:30,159 --> 00:02:34,400 got my my brake barrel four tens, and I took off, you know, 37 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:36,759 from the house, told my dad, hey, I'm going hunting. 38 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:40,039 I'll be back in a little bit. Well, that hunting trip turned real 39 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:46,719 short. So I got all my stuff ready and went out and I went 40 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:49,520 to that little patch of wood. Well, the patch of woods was by 41 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,800 where our chicken coop was. We didn't have chickens at this time. But 42 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:57,719 I was just kind of walking along there, and I think I might have 43 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,639 caught the drop on this thing or something, because he didn't It's almost like 44 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,639 he didn't notice I was there at first, and I wasn't really paying attention 45 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,400 at first. And I cracked that. I cracked that old fourteen clothes, 46 00:03:09,759 --> 00:03:13,280 and you know, I had a good feel and I was like, oh, 47 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:16,400 usually I always kill rabbits right here. When I cracked that barrel clothes, 48 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,120 I looked up. I had a headlamp on. I looked up and 49 00:03:20,159 --> 00:03:27,960 I seen this thing and it it scared me, Like I don't understand. 50 00:03:29,159 --> 00:03:34,159 I'm getting nervous even talking about this. And he was standing there and it 51 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:37,400 was like he was picking you know, those little balls that grow on a 52 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:43,039 tallet tree, like those little green I don't know, gold or something. 53 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 I'm not really familiar with them, but like a gum ball. Yeah, 54 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:51,240 so it's it's a it's a. We have two many tallows down here and 55 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,400 there's there they grow these little like some kind of little green ball on him. 56 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:59,919 And this thing was here. And when I seen this, saying, 57 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,719 it wasn't like I would have pictured a big foot to look like it was. 58 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:11,639 It's about seven or eight foot tall, and it was solid black. 59 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:15,360 The hair on it was black, and it wasn't real long and shaggy either. 60 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,480 I don't must know how to explain it. It was just like and 61 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:24,800 he was massive, like he was he's very muscular. And all doesn't make 62 00:04:24,879 --> 00:04:28,519 sense what later on into the story. But when I see this thing, 63 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,160 I froze. I mean, you know, I mean I think it was 64 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,279 pretty much anyone would just kind of freeze if they seen one of these. 65 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,600 But yeah, and some of my head, you know, was telling me 66 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:43,000 don't shoot at it, because I mean, all I had was a four 67 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,319 ten. He probably just piss them off and beep you to death. Anyway, 68 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:51,800 So me and this thing are staring at each other and it lasted for 69 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:57,120 about thirty seconds, and I kind of shined it up a little more towards 70 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,480 his head, and he kind of scorned his eyes at me, and he 71 00:05:00,639 --> 00:05:02,920 kind of grown it at me and just kind of gave me one of those 72 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:09,560 just the low cooh, you know, like I can't. I can't mimic 73 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,519 the sound he made, but he kind of gave me a little groan. 74 00:05:13,959 --> 00:05:17,600 He kind of turned away from me walked into this patch of woods. Well 75 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:21,399 after he turned his back and walked into this wood, I sprung out of 76 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:27,839 my you know, frightened stage and I ran around because, like I said, 77 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:30,639 though that little patch of woods wasn't very big, it'd be easy to 78 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,319 run around and seeing him come out on the other side. So I did 79 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:41,959 that. I ran around there, and nothing came out. Well in the 80 00:05:42,079 --> 00:05:45,439 in those woods, there was this old pipe crack with old drill pipe sitting 81 00:05:45,439 --> 00:05:48,639 on it, and it was probably like thirty foot ball, and you know, 82 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:51,439 in my head, I'm like, that ain't had to go under there. 83 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:57,240 That thing had to duck off under this pie crack or something. I 84 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,560 just kind of gave up looking for it, and I went back to the 85 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,480 house and I told my dad, you know, and I'm scared shitless at 86 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,560 this point. You know, I don't know what I've just seen. You 87 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:12,360 know, I'm kind of explaining my dad, you know, what I've just 88 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,759 seen, and I because this day, I really can't explain to you what 89 00:06:15,879 --> 00:06:18,839 that thing was. You know, I want to say it was a big 90 00:06:18,879 --> 00:06:23,879 foot. I don't know. And he just he kind of just didn't believe 91 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,879 me. He was just kind of like, oh, son, you just 92 00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:31,160 seeing thinks your imagination. You know. Of course, my dad him being 93 00:06:31,199 --> 00:06:34,600 an old roughneck out in the alfield, he's not really scared too much. 94 00:06:35,519 --> 00:06:40,439 That's that's pretty much that encounter right there. Now. Uh, let me 95 00:06:40,439 --> 00:06:43,560 ask you a couple of questions about it. So you say it was about 96 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,519 seven to eight feet tall, I had black hair. Can you kind of 97 00:06:46,519 --> 00:06:50,000 describe the face because because you could see it's eye squint when you shine the 98 00:06:50,079 --> 00:06:55,560 light in its eyes. Yeah, it's I want to say it kind of 99 00:06:55,639 --> 00:06:59,959 looked like a gorilla, A little bit like a gorilla fo you know how 100 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:03,399 his their heads are kind of dome shaped, like they have a like a 101 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:08,360 cone head. Almost. His head was like that, but it wasn't as 102 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:11,800 coney as a gorilla. It was kind of it's more like a human, 103 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,920 like if somebody had like a gorilla human shaped head, right, you know, 104 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,240 he didn't. He didn't really have a nose had His eyes were pretty 105 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:25,199 large, of course, and when he when he grown it, I kind 106 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:29,240 of seen his teeth and his teeth kind of looked like gorilla teeth also with 107 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:34,879 those humongous canines and stuff in there. It did have sharp looking like predator 108 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:40,680 teeth. Oh yeah, it definitely had teeth. And when I when I 109 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,759 mentioned this, I don't talk about this to many people. And when I 110 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,319 did mention it to somebody, one of my friends like, oh, you 111 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:48,639 shoot a dog man, I was like, no, no, no, 112 00:07:48,639 --> 00:07:53,199 no, that's not what this thing was. It didn't have a snout or 113 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,720 nothing like that. This thing had to be at least six foot across the 114 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:01,120 shoulder. I mean, this thing was humongous, but I could explain it 115 00:08:01,199 --> 00:08:07,279 was he looks like a ginormous bodybuilder. That's the way his body type was. 116 00:08:07,319 --> 00:08:11,680 He wasn't like the one that you know everybody sees on that video that 117 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,839 the Patterson film or something, you know that the one down here don't look 118 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:22,600 like that. They're they're extremely muscular. This thing looked like a hairy hulk 119 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,319 walking around. That's unreal. Could you see through its hair, I mean 120 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:31,360 used to was its face covered with hair? Could you get the color of 121 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,360 the skin. Was it black or kind of charcoal color? I think his 122 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,600 skin was okay. So so his hair was like a little bit longer than 123 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,799 like you would see like a pit bulls hair, because the pit bulls hair 124 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:48,879 is like it is like very close to the skin. I couldn't really make 125 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,639 out, I'm sure. I think his hand was probably dark because the finel's 126 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:58,639 face was dark, like a maybe a cool color. And the weird part 127 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,840 about it, when he turned away for me to walk, I didn't hear 128 00:09:01,879 --> 00:09:03,720 him walk. I mean, something that big, you would think you would 129 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:09,720 hear him, you know, like snapping limbs and stuff, you know, 130 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,200 moving around in there. I didn't even care. And that's what surprised me. 131 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:16,320 I don't really know what I would have done when I ran around the 132 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,960 woods to see if he came out. I don't know what I would have 133 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,039 done to him, But or what he would have done to me. But 134 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,840 I was just like when I when I made eye contact with him. But 135 00:09:26,039 --> 00:09:30,919 that is the worst fear I've ever felt, The biggest fear I've ever felt 136 00:09:30,919 --> 00:09:33,720 in my entire life. Was it was that moment. Yeah, I believe 137 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,600 you, now you you saw this thing and you backed out and you ran. 138 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:39,840 It must have been a real small patch of woods. Yeah it was. 139 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,399 I'd say it was probably about thirty yards alone, about maybe twenty yards 140 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:50,279 wide. It wasn't that big. It wasn't that big at all. Yeah, 141 00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:52,360 I know. I used to squirrel hunt in little patches like that, 142 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:56,480 so I and they're full of wildlife because it's like the oh yeah, you 143 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:00,559 know, for one hundred yards or so. It's the only environment where they 144 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,840 can stay concealed. So I understand. And you ran around, it didn't 145 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,279 come out, and did you come back through the woods? Right there at 146 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,559 the edge of the woods is where I'd usually see them rapids because the hair 147 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:16,159 the head like a little bit into the woods. There's a pipe act, 148 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,919 like you could clearly see the pipe act through the woods right Like. It 149 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,840 wasn't real thick, thick woods. It was a bunch of tallow trees, 150 00:10:24,879 --> 00:10:28,039 and it was it was some pine trees there, and it had a pretty 151 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:33,080 thick underbrush too, Like in those patches of the woods we have down here, 152 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,879 we got really thick underbrush, you know. Yeah, I felt like 153 00:10:37,919 --> 00:10:41,639 I should have seen him under there. I didn't see it. He just 154 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,399 it's kind of like he just vanished after, you know, after he turned 155 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,039 around and walked into the woods. That was the last time I've seen him. 156 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:54,080 Yeah, I was gonna ask if you had been back or went through 157 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,240 there again and figured out maybe where he could have escaped. But I mean, 158 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:01,840 if it's twenty or thirty yards square, you know, a deer can 159 00:11:01,879 --> 00:11:07,000 skirt out places you never see them leave, and then they could run three 160 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,840 hundred yards cross field. You're on the other side of the trees, you 161 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:13,559 never see them. And you know, my brother was telling me. My 162 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:18,399 brother recently got into the to the research a big foot. He lives up 163 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:22,679 in up near Tech's Arcanum and he had he actually had a scream at him, 164 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,559 which if that something was a scream to me, I would have probably 165 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,120 craft all over myself. I'm not laughing at you. I'm just like, 166 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,919 you know, after these things are over and I don't know how you are 167 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,639 about it, and I know it terrifies you as especially as a twelve year 168 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,120 old. But like the way you describe it, it's um you know, 169 00:11:43,279 --> 00:11:48,080 it becomes I think over time it becomes comical while it's still very serious to 170 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:50,799 you because these things scare people to death. I mean, they scare people 171 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,159 to death. And I don't know, I don't know how you deal with 172 00:11:54,159 --> 00:11:56,879 it through all the years. How have you dealt with it? Have you 173 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,679 had nightmares or do you have a problem going back in the woods. Can 174 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,879 you tell us a little bit about that. Well, after after the fact 175 00:12:07,039 --> 00:12:11,159 of seeing it, I still hunted, but I felt like something was kind 176 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:15,480 of watching me, you know, if that makes sense. But the way 177 00:12:15,519 --> 00:12:18,120 I've dealt whether it is I just kind of I must see it to believe 178 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:22,360 it type type of person. You know, you can tell me this exists 179 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:26,559 all day, but if I don't lay my eyes on it, I mean, 180 00:12:26,279 --> 00:12:30,759 you know, I'm kind of like a realism type guy. I gotta 181 00:12:30,799 --> 00:12:33,360 see this thing to believe it. Well, I kind of. I mean 182 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,399 for a while I didn't go hunting at all, you know, from like 183 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,360 twelve to maybe fourteen, I was like, I'm not having this. I'm 184 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:45,679 not having this. I will literally shit all over myself if I see this 185 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:50,519 thing again. I'm not dealing worth it, you know. And now I 186 00:12:50,639 --> 00:12:54,559 just kind of well, but even then, I just kind of accepted that 187 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,919 that thing was out there. And I'm guessing it's always in the back of 188 00:12:56,919 --> 00:13:01,399 your mind though your your head's on a level quite a bit, I'm sure. 189 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:07,399 Oh yeah, iDeer in hog hunt now and I definitely keep my eyeball 190 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:11,480 casts onto that wooden line. Yeah, it's it's because I don't want one, 191 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,519 you know. Like I said, how I kind of I feel like 192 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,440 I got to drop on him because like I feel like he wasn't really paying 193 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,840 attention when I walked up. I don't want one to do that to me. 194 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,320 The things I heard about about these creatures is that they don't like guns 195 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,679 too well. And I'm always carrying I haulg home with a six point five 196 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Creedmore and if that can if he comes at me and I can't drop him 197 00:13:33,639 --> 00:13:35,399 with that, I'm pretty much just done at that point. Yeah, some 198 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,279 people say they're impervious to bullets. I don't think they are. Well, 199 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,039 I think there's some type of animals. I think they're actually some type of 200 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,320 this massive animal. I don't know how to explain it. I think the 201 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,320 reason that it scared me so bad is pretty much the fear of the unknown. 202 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:54,679 I didn't know what that thing was.