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It's Maria's MutS and Stuff. What
a great idea on iHeartRadio. Welcome to

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Maria's Mutts and Stuff. And with
me, I'm so very excited because he's

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also a return guest, and of
course I'm such a big fan of his.

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It is MutS Comics creator, author, animal advocate Patrick McDonald, So

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Patrick, Hi him, happy to
be here. Oh my goodness. You

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know, it's really funny. I
thought, and this is where I think

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because of COVID, we lost years. I was thinking, you and I

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spoke last maybe two or three years
ago, like right before COVID, and

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I looked and it was kind of
weird. But December of twenty eighteen,

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so it's been five years. Wow, time does go face. You're right

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about COVID. Who knows what day
it is or what time it is.

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It's true, I know, like
everything in our lives has become like pre

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COVID post COVID, but it feels
like, oh, it just happened a

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couple of years ago, and it
was like, no, it was a

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long time ago. But anyway,
so you've been very busy all this time,

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and Mutts Comics it's been around for
almost thirty years, but it's big

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news because for those of us who
follow, and it's millions of us,

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guard Dog has finally gotten untethered.
Yes, something I've been promising for I'm

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not even gonna say how many years
I've been promising it, but yeah,

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And actually today was the day that
Doozy officially adopts him. I saw that.

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I saw that, so yeah.
So for those who are listening,

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say at a later date, today
being December fourteenth, So guard Dog got

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adopted. So okay, So guard
Dog first was introduced? It was it

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in nineteen ninety five? Is that
correct? It was about a year into

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this strip. Okay, So go
ahead, I'm sorry, Oh, I

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was going to say, and she
has an interesting origin. I was doing

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the strip for about a year,
and I thought it would be fun to

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have Elimoch to have like a villain
or you know, some character that gave

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them a hard time that they had
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And so I figured, well,
I'll make a real tough dog in

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the neighborhood. So in a catch
book, I started drawing what I thought

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was like the generic big gruffy dog, and I put a studied collar on

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him to make them look tough.
And then in my schedules, I drew

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the studied collar, but then I
added a chain and boy, as soon

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as I drew that, I looked
at the character and so, no,

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this, this isn't a villain.
This is a tragic character. And figured

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I'd add him to the strip so
I can get that message out there.

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It's no way, you know all
the chain dogs that are out there that

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maybe inspire someone to take the chain
off and bring their dog in. And

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you have inspired people over the years. I'm sure you know. The nicest

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thing about doing the strip is getting
letters from people who you know, either

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got inspired to adopt a new furry
friend or bring their dog in the house

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or Boy, I also get a
lot of people who said they've gone vegetarian

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or vegan because of my strick.
Wow. Nice, it's nice letters to

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receive. Yeah, absolutely, because
it's like your talent has changed the world.

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And I'm sure you don't look at
it like that, but it really

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is true. You've changed people's minds
about things. You've enlightened people, educated

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people. I mean, I'm sure
you know people have dogs, they don't

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consider them part of the family like
we do, and they just keep them

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tethered outdoors, which is not the
life that a dog should have. And

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I think you know with your column, you've educated that and guard Dog all

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these years. So what made you
decide to finally get guard Dog off his

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chain now rather than years ago.
Well, you know, I've always thought,

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I mean, I would obviously free
them someday, but also, you

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know, a lot of animals I'm
obviously friends link Connection and contact a lot

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of animal welfare groups. You know, most of them thought that he had

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that mission to do to you know, get that message out there about how

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people treat their dogs and hopefully inspire
some people. And so you know I

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kept them on the chain for that
purpose. But you know, I just

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I don't know if you know.
But just this January, I had I

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did a book collaboration with the Dalai
Lama. Yes, yes, and in

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that book it's you know, it's
a book about the environment, but you

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know, all the beings on the
planet too, and just that we need

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to show more compassion and empathy.
And boy, after doing that book,

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I took a little time to say, well, how would I I never

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really knew I was going to free
but I never thought one hundred percent how

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I was going to tell that story. So after doing the Dali Lama book,

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I said, I should think about
compassion for guard Dog, right,

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And I started playing with the idea
and the story started coming and I said,

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yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready
to do this. Wow. And

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and the book with the Dali Lama
that's Heart too Hard? Is that correct?

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Yes? And so for people who
are listening and they want to get

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your book, they can get it
through your website. Yeah, dot com

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sells the book. And actually if
you get it on mus dot com,

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it will be uh autographed, but
it should be in the bookstores in anywhere

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you could get a book. But
Mu's dot com you will get an autograph

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copy. Well that's very nice,
and that's perfect for the holidays that people

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can you know, gifted or get
one for themselves, gift themselves with with

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Heart too Hard for the holidays.
So okay, so back to guard Dog.

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So now I love the fact that
you've been posting real life stories of

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people who have adopted a dog who
was previously tethered. Will that continue in

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your comics? Yeah? You know, uh on much uh Mu's dot com

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guard Dog, there's a landing page
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If you to catch up, you
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guard dog story. But to me, the best part of it is we've

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been getting a lot of responses from
people who have sent in pictures of their

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own rescue chain dogs and those real
stories are just so heartwarming and power Yes,

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yeah, so as they come in, we've been posting them and they're

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really beautiful. I'm hoping we can
maybe do a guard dog book, and

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if we do that, I'd love
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of the book. Oh, that
would be wonderful. That would be wonderful.

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And for those who aren't, they
should follow you on Instagram, the

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MutS comics on Instagram because you've been
posting the true stories on Instagram, because

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I've been seeing it there as I
follow you, So yeah, we post

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them there too. Yeah. But
that's a great idea, I mean,

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is that? And I know you
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that be the next book? You
think? Are you thinking of another book

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at this point? I know you're
doing You do a lot, you juggle

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a lot of balls at the same
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my latest book that just came out, I went from the Dalai Lama

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to the Marvel superheroes. I actually
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So I'm open to the universe.
And right now I think the universe is

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telling me a Carddog book. I
think so. Right, So maybe we

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could look forward to that in twenty
twenty four. Knock on wood. Maybe.

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Yeah. Well, well, you
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on my part to assume that it
would take you that short of time to

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put it together, because you know, you have to write it, and

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so I would say, you're going
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Yes, yes, that's it.
Yeah, No, I'm going to start

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working on it soon because it's it's
you know, the story's already there,

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and I'll probably color it because you
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and white. So there's a little
work to do. But ninety percent if

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it's already done, Wow, that's
incredible. It's incredible, you know.

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And I didn't realize because I guess
in my brain, I assume that everybody

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is is on the right page.
But there are only about twenty three states,

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is that right that have tether laws? Yeah, only twenty three and

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even though they vary on how strong
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have a lot of work to do. And on that much dot com slash

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guard Dog landing page, you know, we give information of how you can

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help and we connect you to you
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rescue groups that you know work on
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advice. So you could learn more
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page on What's dot com. No, that's and that's important because I know

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whoever is listening right now, people
who listen to the podcast are huge animal

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lovers, just like you are.
And you know, this is a great

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way because there's number. There's strength
in numbers, they say. So the

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more people that I think get guided
by what they can find at mutts dot

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com, you know, the maybe
we'll get more states to pass laws.

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Well, I sure hope. So
yeah, no, for sure. And

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and you are also, because I
know you do so many different things.

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You're also on the board for Fund
for Animals. Yes, yes i am.

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And I'm almost on the board of
the Charles M. Schultz Museum.

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Oh wow, museum in Santa Rosa. Wow. And what is that?

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What is that? What does that
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being on that board, Like any
board, you know, you help steer

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the direction of the museum and keep
things going. It's such a wonderful museum.

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I mean, Peanuts is the reason
I became a cartoonist. Sonored beyond

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that museum. Sure, wow,
Wow, that's so cool. That's you

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know, like you're just like the
coolest person. You do know that,

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don't you? No, you are. I'm sure my dog, my dog

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thinks so. But other than that, well, there are millions of us

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who think so, because you just
are the coolest person. I'm sure I

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told you that the last time we
smoke five years ago, and you've just

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gotten cooler over the years. If
that was possible. Oh, that's funny,

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but it's true. So what else
can we look forward to from the

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life of Patrick McDonald? Well,
you know, the Guardbooks story was such

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a fun undertaking. I mean,
it's the longest story I've ever done in

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Mutts, and I've really been taken
with how the response. I mean,

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when you look at Instagram and Facebook, the comments we've been getting. It's

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funny. You know. I was
touched as a youngster wheat and Peanuts and

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wanted to give some of that joy
back and really touching for me to see

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how many people are responding to the
It's so funny. They're just little pennanty

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characters, but people, the daily
comic strip is such a unique art medium.

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We get into people's lives and they
read them every day and they kind

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of become part of your family.
And it's amazing how people really care about

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cartoon characters. Sure, it's also
such a strange way to tell a story.

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You know, this much guard Dog
story lasted seven weeks. Yes,

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yeah, and if that wasn't a
book, you probably read it in ten

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to fifteen minutes, right right now, that's truly yeah, because you had

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to wait every day. People got
really anxious. If we're worried about Guardo,

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because you know, the length of
time that you had to deal with,

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is he going to get free?
Is he not? Is he going

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to survive? You know, just
made it that much more tension. Yeah,

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but I love that the comic strip
has that unique ability, especially in

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this day and age of short attention
spans and everyone just wants everything fast.

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That's true, Yeah, that's you
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way. You're absolutely right. People
always want the very fast response, but

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seven weeks that's a long time.
But people did wait and and I was

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reading some of the comments. People
were afraid that it was going to fall

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through. He's not going to get
adopted. I was like, oh my

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god, it would never be that
way, you know that. I mean,

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I loved it because it made it
interesting for them, But I was

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also surprised that so many people would
think that I would harm right, I

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know, but I don't think it
was about Yeah, it wasn't about you.

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I think it was just where it's
a cynical nation, you know.

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I think you're right. There's so
much negativity. Yes, there's everything.

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Even things that are supposedly for kids
always have such grim negative aspects to it.

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I guess people just expected that anything
could happen in this day and age.

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Yes, in my head, I
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Of course, not of course.
And it was like, yeah, but

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I don't think I had anything to
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just you're right. There's always such
negativity and always a dark side, like,

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oh, guard dog's going to get
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life in a shelter or you know, you wouldn't do that. But I

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think people are just always prepared for
like doom and Gloom or something even report

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guard Dog. Well, you know, I think another aspect too is do

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you know the comic strip for Better
or Worse? Yes? Yeah, so

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you know, for Better or Worse
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all the characters aged at some point, the dog, you know,

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was getting old, and she actually
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about the dog passing away. Right. I think some people thought, well,

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Jesus, that dog could die in
the comics. Maybe guard guard dogs?

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Oh my good. I think I
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maybe that's the reason. I just
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those comments like, oh please,
you know after seven weeks? Did you

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did you plan for it to be
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you just as you were writing it, just yeah, just as I was

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writing it. It just you know, I just when I write, I

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just like the story take over and
see where it goes, right, right,

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It's it's organic, so wherever it
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two weeks, but it just so
happened to go for seven weeks. Yeah.

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When I was doing it. I
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that long because I mean, again, it's a fairly simple story. I

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mean, huh, his owners leave
and he's alone for a couple of days,

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and then Juicy gets them and brings
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was saying, well, that's not
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But as it turned out seven weeks. Seven weeks, yeah, yeah,

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I know, and it was like, oh, just to I mean,

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you know, I follow it too, and just to see that his owner

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left him, Like, how could
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that, you know, but oh
my goodness. You know, if you

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do read the remarks on the Instagram
and Facebook, you know a lot of

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them are from the unsung eros of
this planet there, you know, the

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people who work at shelters. Yes, and boy, they all let the

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readers know that this happens all the
time. Unfortunately they see it, you

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know, all the time. It
does. Ye yeah, sounds like sounds

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like a crazy villainous plot for my
comic, but unfortunately, you know,

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it happens, No, it does. It's it's really very sad, very

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tragic. I mean I just remember
years ago volunteering an animal Care center and

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people would surrender their animals, and
I would always say, like, I

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don't understand how people can do that. And I remember people at the shelter

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saying to me, it's better that
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it behind. And that's exactly what
you're talking about, which how good people

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do that? But people human nature, some of it is awful, you

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know, yeah, consciousness for sure. Yeah, And well you enlightened us

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on human nature in such an entertaining
way, though, and to have such

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a positive outcome, So it's really
so commendable and so excellent that you did

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that. You know, all these
years with guard Dog and everybody just always

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wished that he could become untethered,
and after all these years, for him

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to finally become untethered and get adopted. It's just it's just so heartwarming and

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so perfect. So thank you for
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Even for me, it was rewarding, you know, whenever I drew,

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like you know, if I did
talks and I would draw them for the

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people in the audience, I would
always draw him free. Then I was

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drew him free. So I felt
like he was kind of an actor in

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MutS, sure, but just it
was really rewarding. Oh you see that

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dog of mine finally can get a
home and he has a home I know,

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and just in time for the holidays. It's just so perfect. So

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do you think you're going to be
out on I mean, because guard dog

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is so big? Uh? Will
you do a speaking tour? Do you

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think might come out of this?
Wow, that's an interesting thought. I

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I haven't been approached about that yet, but it's it's an interesting thought.

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Maybe when the maybe when I get
a guard dog book out there, maybe

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when the book went a book comes
out. Yeah, yeah, all right,

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I'm just kind of thinking of things
that would because I would come see

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you to talk about a guard dog
and hear you again, so you could

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say to say to your agent like, well Maria will be there and she'll

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talk about it on the air.
So well, this has been wonderful.

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Patrick, you are just the best, and thank you for doing all the

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things that you've done all these years
and continue doing to raise awareness. You're

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like the biggest animal advocate that we
know of, but you do it in

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such a I can't even describe such
a unique way, but just such a

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wonderful way. We are truly blessed
to have you on this planet, and

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I really do mean that so well. And likewise, I think you know

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your show is very informative and really
so pro animal that it's great and I'm

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happy to be part of it.
Well, thank you, Patrick, and

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I hope to speak to you sooner
than five years. So maybe when is

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that a deal with the book.
If the book comes out, yes,

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we'll talk then, yes. And
for those who are listening, you can

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learn more, you can get products, and a percentage goes to animal rescue,

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you know, because that's what's in
Patrick's heart, And you can find

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all the information and products, especially
this time of year for holiday gifts at

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Mutts dot com. So, Patrick
McDonald, thank you so much again,

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have a great holiday and thank you
for all that you do, and we'll

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speak again. Thank you, take
care you too, Okay, bye bye