Special Operations, Cobert As Espionage, the Team House with your hopes, Jack
Murphy and David Bark, Here we are twenty twenty three Year in Review episode.
Is this the bullshit throwaway episode at the very end of the year where
we're just filling space because we don't want to be here on actual New Year's
That's what it definitely yeah, yeah, but however, but if you're joining
us for this episode, it's the most important episode of the year, it
kind of I would say. The thing about this is we do a lot
of episodes and probably some of them get lost in the mix, and so
if you're wondering, or maybe you just found this channel, we can give
you a quick overview of who was on the show this year and you can
figure out which sound the most interesting to you. That's my pitch. That's
the best I got. I'm there with you, there for it. I'm
there for it. I mean with my TV ies. I'm lucky that I
remember the episode we did two weeks ago. So fortunately for you all,
Jack leads these discussions, well yeah, with three pages of notes because I
couldn't remember all this either. So a few channel statistics to start off with,
guys, in twenty four, I promise you I'm gonna figure out how
to get Jack away ahead. Great. So some this is a YouTube statistics.
There's other podcast statistics that actually I didn't even look at. Maybe maybe
you did. D Well, pull them up if you want sometime during the
show and we uncover them at the end. So on YouTube, we had
eighteen million views, sixty one thousand new subscribers, and we did a total
of sixty eight episodes. Our top episode in top live stream was our interview
with Gary Harrington and our top short was Mike Edwards. So this was like
a good year, man, this is a good year of growth. Like
I remember, I think the last last time we did this, we're talking
about the goal was to make one hundred thousand. I think we're at fifty.
Yeah. Last year we were like our goals to make one hundred thousand,
and we're at like almost one hundred and twenty five right now. Yeah,
so we overshot. Good problem to have, yeah, yeah, overachievers,
you know, you know how we roll. And so we're looking at
spreaker here. D The one annoying part is this is our audio stats.
But our audio stats are split because we changed through right. Yeah, so
okay, so it's not giving you a yearly total. It's not going to
give us a yearly total. Give us the last ninety days, gotcha.
But wow, it just in the last month eighty eight thousand downloads and over
a million impressions over the last thirty days. Yeah, not bad, not
bad? Is that three million dollars? Yes it is. No, Yeah,
you're getting the baby giraffe. Yeah, finally. And the know any
thing about Speaker is you have to go to eat No one can see this
because it's like it shows how much money with me, but you have to
go to a single show like so you know you hit one specific when it
gives you the downloads. I think the biggest downloaded one we have audio wise
is Gary Harrington. It's like in the thirty thousands, and what do you
think the split is the between YouTube and the podcast, Between the stream and
the podcast. I would say on average it's probably close to uh now,
I would say it's probably sixty on average sixty forty video views to listens.
But on YouTube we have the opportunity like first show like Gary Harrington's that's got
like nine hundred thousand views, a show like that'll probably do like thirty,
like I said, thirty thousand listens, which is like double what we normally
we get around fifteen thousand listens on average per show. That's awesome. Yeah.
YouTube is the place where, like we have the opportunity for a show
to really take off and like gain some grunt like gain some like legs.
Is that because of the algorithm they'll throw our should you might also like I
think so, I think it's partly that, and I think it's just people
who listen to podcasts, they don't really get those kinds of suggestions, right,
Like they don't have like an algorithm like that. They might get some
suggestions depending on the platform, but it's not the same. Like YouTube just
wants you to continue to watch shows, watch videos no matter what, so
they'll try and feed it right. Yeah, But audio wise, I think
audio is like you're an audio listener, you consume your podcast via Spotify or
ipe Apple podcasts, and the YouTube stuff is a little different. I mean,
I'm sure because I watch I listen to pods and I do watch some
pods too, so mixed. Yeah, So I think I would say on
average, an average show, a show that does around thirty five thousand views
and listens. It'll be about sixty forty views the audio. That's awesome,
man. I mean I don't know how you guys feel, but I think
this has been like a really good year for the show totally like came into
its own and like now we're a mid sized podcast. Yeah totally. We're
not Joe Rogan, but we are a mid sized podcast. We're out there.
We're out and about a mid sized podcast with small size sound. Yeah
exactly. Yeah, we're still trying to figure out the sound. I think
we're there. I think we've gotten there. And I'll take this moment to
also just thank all the people who support the channel, especially the people who
support us on Patreon and all the those who do. They get ad free
episodes plus some bonus episodes also, and I mean that's what enabled all of
this really and this year, like I think we finished everything we ever wanted
to do with the studio pretty much. Yeah, now it's time to move
a few. Yeah exactly. You know they started. I heard, I
heard they were kicking. I was texting Jack last last episode freaking out about
it. But I mean, this, this place is this place is awesome
I'm really happy with how it came out. We uh we updated our TriCaster,
got a new TriCaster this year, which for those who aren't like super
tech guys, it's like it's a computer. Yeah exactly, like like me,
uh, that's the computer that is basically the brains of the whole live
stream, Like all the audio, all the video goes into that and de
produces the show live in the software, the TriCaster new tech software. So
yeah, so if you see like you're seeing me not switch through the the
camera angles, that's me doing. So some of you guys start yelling at
us, like why don't you just record the ad reads later and then insert
them? And it's like it's a live show, and like, oh so
you mean all those things that pop up on screen and the intro and the
camera cuts, that's all just done live. Yes, yeah, yes it
is. That's why sometimes it's fucked up. Yeah yeah, no exactly it
is. Yeah, fuck it, we'll do it live. So I love
it live. I really do prefer it live. Yeah. No, me
too. I couldn't imagine going back going the other way. I don't know,
what do you think, Dave? As far as like other things,
like before we get into like a blow by blow episode review, like things
that went down in twenty twenty three, happy with ambivalent about yeah, happy
and ambivalent. No. No, I mean the studio really came together.
And again it's unfortunate because we do have some challenges with our neighbors in this
yeo, there there's no way we could have foreseen. There's just there's just
in the future we will ask. We'll ask future landlords if there is a
church upstairs, a church upstairs, upstairs services. It was funny to you
last week. Uh so I was texting with the neighbors upstairs and she sends
me the flyer for their service, and I sent it to Jack, like,
check out this flyer. You want to go to the next one because
they started at ten o'clock. So, I mean, they do push it
for us. I gotta give them some credit. But like sometimes they do
like a sound check or whatever. So like throughout the episode last week with
Mark, I was hearing them upstairs, like, oh my god, they're
gonna start fucking rocking soon. I think we should all do mushrooms and roll
up there one day, Yeah, and just enter the service. Yeah,
I mean, it's it sounds like a fun service. It does sound like
they're having fun. It sounds yeah, because it is. It is like
an African Christian church. So they are just rocking like you know this Africa
music. It sounds so good. But the drums, you know, the
speakers, everything is on the floor, so it all just vibrates down through
you know. I mean, honestly, we should buy them like rubber pads
to put under all their ship or like a new place to do this.
This is like one of one of the big cultural differences is like black people
have fun at church unlike us. Yeah, we're like repressed fucking church.
Yeah, yeah, white people. I got some luve on Twitter about like
the fucking what I was saying during Mark's episode about like the church upstairs,
Like I was freaking out about it, and I was like talking about the
Greek Orthodox Church, which I can do because I was born and raised Greek
Orthodox, because I guess marked a speech for them in Chicago, and I
was like saying how they like embezel money and stuff like that, which they
fucking do. It's not a it's not a joke. It was hilarious,
and you got you got heat on Twitter somebody like that was funny. Oh
yeah, yeah, it was funny. Though these are funny, dude,
you they should have a few shows of his own. I can't handle that.
I can't handle the pressure. All right, I could do it,
so uh develop any for the thoughts will come back. We'll revisit at the
end. Jumping into the episodes we started the new year. We started twenty
twenty three with episode Pat McNamara. That was That was a good one.
Yeah, that was a really good, great episode. Pat's a great guy.
I had never met him before the show. I mean I had heard
that he was a great dude, but yeah, really great to do.
A great story too. You know, he had the best origin story we've
ever heard, I think on the show about how his older brother was kind
of a pun Oh that's right. Yeah, Pat like took martial arts,
was like in the gym lifting weights and came back and whooped it. Yeah.
Yeah. It was like a like a Rocky montage. Yeah yeah,
that's awesome. Yeah. But also, you know, like his post service
life and that dip he had, you know, the feeling like divorce and
everything and and you know, and then it's come back from that. I
think you know, I really like those types, not those types of stories,
but I really appreciate when people who have suffered something like that and come
back from and are able to talk about it, because it shows that even
for a machine, you know, somebody like Pat mac who you know,
you think of it this this next higher level how you know, humanity hits
us all. You know, life comes at Yeah, life comes at you.
Yeah. Pat was somebody who people had requested we have on for a
long time, and yeah, I don't see. Pat's done quite a few
interviews, but I don't remember too many. Were like he really told this
whole story like that, you know, it was awesome. I really liked
it. The one crazy part I remember specifically was he uh he was doing
a static line jump and she got caught. Yeah, like that was fucking
gnarly. Yeah, he has a he has a free fall story too that
he told me once. So that was pretty wild. We'll get him and
get him to tell that another time. Uh. So episode Ken de Cleva,
who was a State Department and CIA psychologist. Uh that was a cool
episode too. Was that was a year ago? Yeah? Man, Yeah,
that was like a whole interesting perspective of like working in Moscow and who
was taking SYSTEMA courses. Yeah, fighting with like g r U guys and
stuff fighting like martial arts, you know training. Uh. That was That
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whether it was a History Channel or A and E like the documentary about Lerps
that Larry was like that he was in and he was like, we're reacting
to and it got copyright striked. Yeah, that was kind of bullshit.
But it was a great interview, really good. Larry's a great character too.
And then episode one was Alex Hollings talking about some aerospace stuff. Alex
is always fun to talk to. Yeah, he's always like super into it.
Alex is killing it too, you know, I mean, honestly,
Alex. With Alex's personality, he could be into like pig farming, or
geology or or or just like clumber, Like he could talk about different types
of lumber and it would be fun because he's excited about it. I want
to love something as much as he loves, like aviation. Yeah, in
my life. Yeah, a person thing. Yeah, yeah, I wish
this is This is a here's a sidebar. Have you ever seen, uh,
this is an RPG thing? Have you ever seen Matt Coleville on on
the YouTube's No, I don't think so. He's an RPG designer, has
like a small company. Now. When he starts talking, he's like so
excited and so in check him out and he'll go off on these He was
talking about like the history of D and D and then went off on a
sidebar, the history of synthesizers, and it's like, I know nothing about
that. I don't know why you're talking about it, but it's really interesting.
I hope you'll keep going with. Yeah, Matt Coleville remind yeah,
he reminds me of Alex Episode one eight Mark Denbow, who was a Gitmo
lawyer and uh Mark, yeah, Mark, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I forgot his name on the I forgot I couldn't recall his name on The
Andy Stump Show. That was an interesting episode. I mean it was for
me, it was a challenging episode because you know, Mark was there protecting
people and rightfully so I'm you know, there, but he was there to
you know, ensure the civil rights or human rights of of you know,
people in Gitmo. And I didn't have you know, many fond feelings about
the people in Gitmo. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean these public prosecutors
and so forth, and public defenders, I mean they're a necessary I don't
want to say necessary evil. I don't think they're evil, but right,
you know, somebody has to make sure the government's doing the act right.
Absolutely was ish Vie guess uh Op I'm pronounced his name right, He'll come
beat me up. Uh was CCT. He had some awesome stories about Afghanistan.
That was a really good one. Yeah. One ninety was Jesse Betcher.
And Jesse was like that generation of operators that was like in the thick
of it, like in the mix of it for years and years. Yeah.
Yeah, Jesse was great. Yeah, he had some awesome stories too.
Uh. One n one was Joel Funk MH sixty or no MH forty
seven pilot. He was really good. One was a little off beat for
Us, Chad Michael Collins voice Actor, Extraordinar voice actor and Call of Duty
and uh in the Sniper series, the Sniper franchise, and Sniper Grit is
out, that Sniper ten is out and it's coming to Netflix and h this
month. Actually so well, we need a carboff a day to do a
Sniper marathon, I think absolutely. And you should react to watching Sniper.
It can't be good movie. I know you like it, Jack, but
it's gotta be. You gotta like accept it for what it is. That
like, it's a it's a fun, campy, kind of over the top.
There's jokes in it, and at the end the good guys win and
you'll come away from it like with a good feeling. It's not like watching
Shindler's List and you walk away like, oh fuck man. It's like it's
like wanted. Right, nobody can bend bullets, you know they can't bend
bullets, but that you believe in this world where people can bend bullets,
Like it's just fun. I look at it in the same vein as like
die Hard, Right, you know I'm not I'm not looking for like total
gritty realism, you know from the from a film like that, and Chad
said he wanted to do another show and I told him, yes, but
you have to come in studio. Yeah, through New York. He's boys
with my friend George, So like I'll tell George to like that, tell
tell him to hook us up with the voice actress from Balders gates Gate so
that we can also supposed my friend George because he's like all plugged into the
Hollywood shit. He said that they're gonna be making Snipers now like every year
for the next twenty years. Bro, Chad has fucking hooked it up.
Man. Yeah, he's got the gig. And you know, I bet
I know why that is. It's because when they put those films on Netflix
whatever, the deal was, like they were like number one, number two
on Netflix for like weeks and that's got to be a huge Yeah. No,
I think they got like a ton of streaming hours, like it was
like another level. That's why they're doing it, only because like it blew
up on Netflix. I have for them. I haven't seen like the ones
that you guys were talking about, like now that they have sort of like
the team stuff, but it almost sounds like it almost sounds like somebody doing
like g I. Joe or Suicide Squad, but doing it short of in
their in their own way, for their own reason, Like they're creating this
team, this fun team, and they're not beholden to any prop They're not.
They're just making a good movie. Yeah, in each one can be
and it is pretty different yeah one another. Which that's a hard thing I
think with with genre of films or books, is that you don't want to
write the same book or maybe the same movie over and over. On the
Return of Tim Winer, Oh yeah, that was a good one. We
talked about a lot of different some historical stuff, but mostly I think we
got into more contemporary stuff. Oh, Iraq, you remember net centric Warfare
with Don Rumsfeld. I remember kept circling back around to that one. Tim's
awesome. I had dinner with Tim like two months ago. I don't think
he'll mind me saying this. He's like two thirds of the way through his
book. He's writing the sequel to Legacy of Ashburs So when when he's done,
when that book is published, we'll have him back on the show to
talk about it. For fantastic Oh was Aaron Brown, former ranger and CIA
officer. He had some cool stories. Yeah, that was a really good
one. I enjoyed. Aaron Yeah, yeah, he's a very smart guy.
He had a good rundown, like the TikTok of what went down with
ubl raid and how he like snuck into the room and ship like he wasn't
supposed to be in there. Some of those meetings must have been pretty normally.
It's gotta be crazy, yeah, they like the tensions gotta be like
pretty high. Was Dave Madden Navy seal one of the few that has slipped
through the cracks because we're se haters. Yeah, but Dave. Dave was
great man. He was awesome mostly his trips. As I recall, he
was doing village stability operations in Afghanistan. Yeah, Dave's a great guy.
He's doing good stuff out there. He had a really good description of a
first firefight and what it's like for guys who've never been in it, right,
and how fucking insane it is. It was pretty pretty not pretty cool.
Yeah, man, Dave's a good guy. And he hooked us up
with that cider too. Yeah. Posterity uh episode one nine six was Vivek
Jacob, who served in nine para Indian Special Operations Forces, and that was
a good episode, like something like again like kind of like offbeat for us
because it was about his military career, but then like his post service time
and like this sort of spiritualism or spirituality that he got into right kind of
helped him make sense of his life. And we have people commenting all the
time like, oh, you need to get more you know this nine PARA
officer, this officer, this guy. And then I'm like, I'm open
to it if you if you guys want to put us in contact with We're
excited to have foreign special ops guys on the show. So yeah, I
mean keep the recommendations coming. One nine was Gary Harrington, who's a Special
Forces guy and then a CIA officer, and that that episode was the one
that went like pretty viral for us and almost a million views on a full
episode, on like a long form episode. Yeah, and I mean he
was he was great, I mean great stories and and that's why we invited
him to come back again pilot. Yeah. He was fucking awesome. Yeah,
that was great. He was awesome. Yeah, episode two hundred,
where do we even begin with that one? Well? How can you?
Yeah, I don't even know how you talk about it. I mean,
are my least favorite episode. Don't be a hater, b I mean there,
if you want to know what it's all about, just go check it
out and skip forward, like yeah, every hour to see if you're interested
in the content that's going on that hour, because it's like fourteen hours.
Yeah. Yeah. And what's interesting is like YouTube, when you're live streaming,
cuts off at twelve hours. That's why it's only twelve hours on YouTube.
I have the full one. The full one is up on the audio
version. So what you need to do, just I guess for FYI,
which we're never going to do it again, I hope to God, is
like you have to stop the stream and then restarted again and you can go
for another twelve hours. That's that's the rule. That's like the so so
now we know how to get to our our famed twenty four hour episodes.
So that's what they did that, like a part of my take in barstool,
they did a twenty four hour stream. And that's how I figured it
out because they were tweet about it because people were bitching that the stream stopped
for like two minutes. Yeah, and they were like we have to stop
the stream to redo it because like it stopped after twelve hours. No,
we won't do another. Are some super fans though, if like they're bitching
at the twelve hour point. I know that. I mean, God bless
barstool. Yeah. PMT is huge podcast. I get like a million a
million downloads of episodes. It's also one of those things we're doing a ridiculous
stream like that people can like check it out and come out drift away.
Yeah, twelve hours later, why are you still here? Yeah? Right?
What is wrong with you? People? And the good thing, Dave
is when you build all your national security secrets at our fourteen, it's not
on YouTube, So you're good. I have no idea what you're talking about.
So yeah, no, we we will be hitting episode three hundred and
twenty twenty four, but we're not going to do twelve hours. We'll probably
do like a D and D game or something, and I love that for
four or five hours, five hours beautiful. Yeah, that episode two oh
one was Dustin ward Ranger. Yeah, he had some bowler stories out there,
some firefights in Afghanistan. We'd love to have him back sometime. Also,
Dustin's Light sleeper. Yes, light Yeah, light sleepers will check that
out. Lightsleeper dot com. Episode two of two was Frank McCloskey. Frank
was a sf McFee sag CIA officer. He has some great stories about Central
America too. Yeah. Two of three was Kateian Kate from Barstool Sports from
zero Block thirty. She was here in studio. She was always fun.
Yeah, she was hilarious. She just gotten pregnant too, so she couldn't
booze it up because she usually gets boozed up like they do like a live
show all the time called the Yak and she's fucked. They always get fucked
up on the shows. It's like one pm two during the week and they
u sometimes like they do a case race where like whoever finishes a case of
beer first wins and it's like a may it's just mayhem. So she usually
gets fucked up. Anybody who anybody who finishes the case of beer loses.
Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred. They're fucking mangled, dude. That
it's like a disaster. They also get their faces painted, so they're doing
it with face paint. That's funny. Two O four Roger Locksheeter, who
is a. He's a crew chief. Fine Hughey's with Magnee SAG. Episode
two O five was the four hour Chris Miller epic. That's a great show.
It was an awesome show. And Chris of all the way up from
the DC area and then drove back that night. Yeah what what a trooper
hardcore. Yeah, and we were we were like trying to keep the show
short for him and because we knew he had to drive back and he just
powered through. Yeah. Yeah, we gave him the option at about two
hours k we could stop here and go yeah, yeah, using the zone
h two O six was Gary Noster, who's an FBI negotiator. Mm hm.
That was again really unique perspective, really great insight. Yeah. Episode
two O seven David Walton served with seventh Special Forces Group and trains young people
to get ready to get prepared for the s fas doctor Dave. Yeah,
he was great. Yeah. Two eight was our first episode with Dale Hanson.
Uh and we were suffering from some technical issues. So back to the
whole like streaming nature of the show, Like, there's some things we can
control. One of them is not the other person's internet connection. So we
asked Dale to come back which we'll hit up in a minute. Don Bentley
two nine is author a Panty Pilot after Red Wings happened. And then speaking
of Red Wings, Ed Derek was a journalist him with the book he was
Episode to ten. Two eleven was Nelson Miller Seal Team six. He was
a chief master chief, right he wasn't an officer, no no, no,
no, yea master chief. Yeah. Yeah. Nelson Miller was awesome.
Yeah, it was great. He had a lot of seals this year.
To twelve is Ward Carol. Ward has his own podcast. Uh is
it called the like the Ward Carrol Channel. I think it is. I
think it's just called War Carroll. Yeah, and he does he does aviation
stuff, so go check word out. He also hit I think he just
hit five hundred thousand subscribers. Damn. Yeah, he's doing good. Yeah,
good for him. Man. I like briefly worked for Ward, like
way back when, and it's cool to see. I mean both of us
have kind of like gone off and done other things, and well now we're
both on YouTube, so we're not really doing other things. We're doing the
same thing. Two thirteen was Michelle Taylor FBI agent and now she's with is
a trench coat, trench code advisors. Yeah, French code advisor with Holden
triplet holding. Yeah. Michelle was really cool. She was awesome and she
was an intelligence officer and first yeah uh and then no relation. But episode
two fourteen was Mike Taylor. So Mike was a Special Forces veteran. He
uh became world renowned when he allegedly smuggled Carlos going out of well, I
don't think we have to say allegedly anymore. He said he did, and
Japan threw him in jail for it. So I think I think we're okay
with Yeah, I think the cats out of the back. Yeah, he's
okay if he smuggles out Carlos going again. Yeah uh. And that was
a really interesting episode for you know, one because of his stories, but
to you know, learning about our own justice system that, to everybody's surprise,
I'm sure doesn't even follow its own rules sometimes because they sent him,
they extradited him to a country that did not meet US standards for imprisonment,
and they're not supposed to do that. I don't know if there's I mean
there, if there isn't a law, there should be a law. But
we have an extradition treaty with Japan. But that's the problem. And just
this week they released that it was a naval officer who's being held. He
was in prison in Japan and this guy he went hypoxic at the wheel and
tragically killed two people and they put him in prison for three years, and
the Biden administration, I guess requested put pressure. I don't know what the
backroom dealing is. Yeah, but they just released him this week. Yeah,
sent them home. Now. It's interesting. It's with with Mike Taylor.
It's very interesting because allegedly, you know, like what he said is
that he technically didn't even break any laws in Japan is they were butt her
and so we went to jail for he embarrassed, he went, Yeah,
it's a it's a shame. Imagine living in a country where you can go
to jail because the country feels but her. They can arrest you over and
over and over again, and they can hold you like indefinitely basically without charging
the crime. They can give a subject to to sleep deprivation, pull you
out of your cell day and night to be interrogated by prosecutors. Yeah,
like, yeah, it doesn't meet like an American standard for sure, and
that was always my problem with his extradition. Two fifteen Andy Milburn here in
studio. Good old Andy. We love Andy. Probably what is third or
fourth appearance on the show. Yeah, this one might have been his third,
all right. I hope we can get Andy back one of these days
when it's come through. He's great. I think we'll be able to get
it back. Yeah. To sixteen Justin Sapp and Toby Hornden. So Justin
was the first Green Beret in Afghanistan with Team Alpha, the CIA's Team Alpha,
and Toby Hornden wrote the book which is called First First Casualty, Thank
You, and so we had them both here in studio. Both great guys.
We've had both of them on previously. So if you haven't read First
Casualty, you know, I definitely suggest picking it up. To seventeen was
Philippe Peters RRC, the Regimental Reconnaissance Company. And Philippe he's another like fascinating,
interesting guy, like his whole life story of he was a Mennonite,
right yeah, and born in Mexico, not speaking Spanish, speaking their language
there, it's like a I guess it's a derivative of Dutch. I didn't
even know that, that's fucking yeah on the show. Yeah, I forgot
that. Yeah, I know he's a menya night. I don't know.
That was like one of their party tricks. Yeah. And uh and then
he you know, of course, immigrated to the United States and joined the
Ranger Regiment and had a wild and interesting career. Yeah. And yeah it's
a cool dude, Yeah, super cool. Uh. And then there were
a couple here I missed. This was when I was on vacation in Iceland.
So you guys tell me to eighteen with Steve Forty, which, yeah,
thing is the most views. Yeah, like I take off and the
ones that you're you guys, go and you're doing, just find it out.
Besides that Gary Harrington and I'll give you that one, yeah, because
I wasn't here for that. Oh that's right. Yeah. Yeah, Steve
was fantastic. It was a nice guy. Yeah, special Force. But
then also you know, talked about talked about resilience, talked a lot about
resilience and you know, strategies for postumatic stress, strategies for maintaining resilience soldiers.
Fantastic, like, great episode. And he's a Chief Wellness Officer of
this hospital for special surgery. Good for him. Yeah, that's great.
Uh. Nineteen was Mark palam Moreopolos and the guest guest host was Andy Milburn
for these Yeah that's right. Yeah, he was staying in my voice.
Yeah, uh, Mark, who I just want you to know that.
Oh yeah, he's got a beef with you. He's got a beef with
you. He's like, why is Jack avoiding me? Yeah? Two episodes
in a row and you haven't been on the show. It's it's the other
way around. It's like I can't come on the show. So I tell
you, guys, it's on you. You figure out what you want to
do for the show, and you're like, oh, I don't know what
to do. I'm just gonna call Mark. Yeah. Mark's always welcome.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not I'm not trying to skip out and Mark,
No, you that's not how we're booth three months out. You're not
like we're not on those ones. This last one with Mark, we booked
him like three weeks ago because somebody dropped out. Yeah, but I think
this one during the summer, I was not here. I was on vacation.
You weren't. Yeah, but you didn't just go. I think we
have figure it out. We call Mark because you like, he was already
scheduled. I had my vacation scheduled like six months in advance. No,
no, I think we had Mark's schedule for like at least a couple of
months in advance. Steve Forty was a guy who popped in for us,
because right, Steve was the last minute focus somebody. But Steve was somebody
who was on our He was on our radar because of the book. Well,
I was talking to Steve about maybe booking him. I think at that
point we needed a book for like September October, so I was looking to
book him. Then the big table, big coffee book. Oh yeah,
it's that one. Yes, twenty years war. Well, yeah, that's
Blakely. Yeah, we'll get to him in a minute. But yeah,
no, I don't care about Mark, but I am. I am.
You don't care about Mark, markiners, you don't care about I am sorry
that I am sorry. I missed out on episode two twenty though, when
we flew Dale Hanson down from Alaska. Yeah, that was good. I
am sorry I missed that one. Well, how to go? I feel
bad for Steven Mark now because Jack doesn't feel bad about missing them. No,
I feel bad that I miss Steve, I said, I don't care
about missing Mark. I mean we got we grabbed lunch with Mark too,
like a month ago, two months ago, we did the Greek Restaurant.
No. Dale was fantastic. It was a great show. I'm trying to
remember. Uh do you remember some of the highlights of that. I mean
it's long, it's like three hours and twenty minutes. So he goes through
a lot of his ship like it's pretty crazy, Like you know, he
talks about how he lost his fingers and stuff like that. I did read
his book pretty his memoir is Born twice. Okay, that's right, Born
twice. Yep. Yeah, ye, And I'm glad like that. Like
the McFee sag Ones do pretty good numbers wise, like that one has over
four hundred and thirty thousand views. Oh and speaking of which, I'll give
him a shout out on here. Bud Gibson runs a podcast. I think
it's called the Recon Podcast or something like that. I think so. And
he's a young young guy and he's like super into you know, the same
thing we do. Really trying to like interview these mac v Sad guys and
get their stories and get their history, and he's done an incredible job.
And in order for you know, that legacy to continue to live, it's
really important that like younger people younger than me and you you know, for
sure kind of like get passionate about it. Yeah, you know. So
I'll be doing Bud's podcasts next month. I don't know what he wants to
talk about with me. I was not quite that old to be mac VI
Sad. But maybe he thinks you are could be. It could be the
great I mean, you're a boomer, could be. But no, go
check his podcast out. He's doing really good stuff. I two twenty one
Mark Graney, we had him in studio. You know, ironically, I
had been like trying to get Mark for years and Mark was like more elusive
than like these super spooky CIA people that I'm trying to like, you know,
find them, and then I finally get a hold of them, and
it takes me like time to convince them to like maybe this is going to
be a cool thing. Mark was so hard to get it to nail down.
And I had like friends of Mark, I had like other authors.
I'm like, oh, you're at this writer's convention, go to Mark Raney
and tell him that Jack Murphy's tired of you avoiding him or something like this,
and eventually we made it happen. And I only say this out of
love because I'm I'm a big fan of Mark Rainey's work. He writes the
gray Man series. I think he called him out on Twitter too, did
I probably did numerous times, And you know, I again, I only
I only do it because I because I love Mark, and I think,
now, is he the one who you like? Who you like? Good
idea of ftter or like sent the well actually email to yeah on the on
the SR twenty five. Yeah, it wasn't a It wasn't a will.
Actually it was like as like market so he was a Galley copy so it's
before publication. I was like, great, book mark, one thing you
might want to fix. He said. The SR was five five six or
seven six to two, and he's he's holding on to that, he's hold
onto it. Oh yeah, yeah he should, okay. Episode two twenty
two was Frank the Elisio UH former DA agent was under infiltrating over the satanic
drug dealing motorcycle games fantastic neo Nazi motorcycle gangs, like holy shit. Yeah,
people got a little upset about that one. People were always a little
upset. May Good I thought. I thought Frank was great, and we're
gonna have franken studio in twenty twenty four, and I believe he's bringing one
of his DA friends with him. Now I'm sorry, not d A ATF
JTF. I'm sorry if I said yea earlier, I think you did.
But it was ATS ATF agent, yeah, which it was, which was
really interesting because I knew the DEA did a lot of deep cover stuff like
that, but obviously almost all you hear from ATF is sort of the bullshit.
Yeah, and to hear about them infiltrating these gangs and really doing this
deep cover stuff, and I mean hanging it all out there, really,
you know, hanging it all out there some lunatics. Yeah, it was
fascinating. Episode two twenty three, that was the Andy Stump episode. And
he was great. He's great, guess he's and he's just a lot of
fun. He's fun to have on. He's you know, uh, I
like him as he has a pretty dry wit, but he's pretty you know
he's really quick, but yeah, it was. It was a great episode.
Uh and then you know, this is jumping around in time. But
you and I flew out the Montana and we did the Andy Stump podcast out
there in uh Callespie Yeah, callispell calis spell uh and uh yeah, So
you guys can go check that out if you want. Dave and I are.
That was a lot of fun too. It was just kind of sitting
around shooting the ship. Two twenty four was the h to complete the Worp
trifecta. Gary Lenderer. Yeah. So yeah, Ken Miller, Larry Chambers,
Gary Linderer. They wrote a series of books. I think it was
Phantom Warriors about the Lurps, about their platoon, and so Gary Linderer was
the last of the three, and I mean he was great. He was
Silver Star recipient in some huge firefights in Vietnam. Episode two twenty five was
is Berry. She's the novelist. She wrote The Peacock and the Sparrow,
but she was also a CIA case officer and that was like one of my
favorite novels of twenty twenty three, The Peacock and the Sparrow. I hope
you guys will check out the episode. Go check out her book too.
It was a really good read. Twenty six was Gary Harrington on for a
second time. We had him here in studio and I was fortunate enough to
be here that time out. Yeah, that was fun. The best stories
were after the after he wrapped. Yes, that's true. Spilt some tea,
some amazing tea that can never get out there. But oh this secrets
we know that. Uh. Episode two twenty seven, I want to say,
this isn't this is when I missed Nate Karachia. Is that the I
think it's Karnakia. Karnakia remind me of Nate again that it was a special
for hold on. I'm sorry again, Like I said TBI is oh yeah
Nate, Okay, no go back? Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah No,
Nate was awesome. Yeah, I'm sorry I missed him. So go check
out episode two twenty seven. Uh. And then to twenty eight was Aaron
hale e O d uh technician who got really really badly injured in Afghanistan,
totally blind and now death too right because he and my infection led to him
losing his hearing right and then he had didn't he had the implants and stuff
yeah, yeah, so you can hear a little bit. Yeah. Incredible
guy. Yeah, fascinating and still super I mean, such a testament to
like the human spirit. I mean, my back hurts and I won't get
out of bed for three days, you know. And you know, and
here is a guy who's blind and partially mostly death and is like climbing living
life. He does a podcast. I went on his podcast was fun.
Oh you went on his podcast? Yeah, that was a clip that I
told John R. Jack laughed at the clip for me talking shit about like
what I was going to do with my life. What's his podcast called Point
of Impact? Cool? Yeah, go check it out. Yeah, Aaron
was really cool. Man nine Ranger Hall of Fame inductee Tommy Shook. Uh,
Tommy was he was in Vietnam and then he was with the Rangers.
Uh, he bounced there. It was interesting that he uh, back in
the early days before like a lot of these things were formalized. Like Tommy's
one of these interesting guys who his career, he was able to jump between
Ranger Battalion and Special Forces and do a little bit of both. And he
was on the green light teams also at one point. Yeah. Episode two
thirty we had Aaron Schwartz Baumb here in studio for an update on Ukraine.
Aaron is a Russia expert. Uh. That was a really good episode,
needed after you know, the previous episode. It was a year prior,
a lot had happened between. It was just after Pregosion got smoked. Yeah
yeah, yeah. Uh. Two thirty one was a former HRT sniper,
Chris Whitcombe had him here in studio. Man, that was another one of
those like mega four hour wild rid So yeah, four hours and twenty minutes.
Yeah, yikes, and we could have got another four hours, like
yeah. Episode two thirty two was Hudson Sullivan, who was a you know,
American foreign fighter in Ukraine. And actually we're going to see him at
our Christmas party this Friday. He's coming down. Uh. Two thirty three
was Dan Blakely Army ranger. You want to grab his book there real quick,
Dave. Yeah, some great ranger stories. And he also put together
this great like photo montage, photo and essay book. Really yeah, it's
basically a great coffee table book, but it's it's you know, it's vignettes
basically maybe two pages or three pages where it just talks about you know veterans,
you know, combat or wartime veterans and what they're doing today, like
how their lives have transition things like that. And it's also Steve Is in
this book. Oh cool. Yeah, it's a it's a fantastic book where
it just has you know, incredible photography, you know, these portraits and
then just their personal stories about what they did after the war. You know,
what what what life looks like after that. Cool. That's really cool.
Two thirty four. David McCloskey, he's former CIA analyst, the author
of his latest book is Moscow. X had him on the show. We
actually talked a lot about his time working Syria when the Civil War was happening.
Honestly, that was like the best part of the I was expecting,
like, oh, we're going to talk about the book the whole time,
even though the book is awesome, Yeah, but I love the Siria talk.
Yeah. His insights into that conflict was like it was very helpful for
me to help understand, you know, what was going like, especially like
what the American intelligence community was like thinking what they're looking at at that time,
what to revisit that at some point and I'm sure we'll have David on
again. You know, he's still writing actually his Yeah, I think I
think he announced his third book. Yeah, it's someone he was talking about
where there's a mole on the seventh floor. Yeah, yeah, which sounds
pretty cool. That sounds like it'll be an interesting One episode was the Brent
Tucker episode. Brent was his background. He started off in a Special Forces
National Guard and then he was a Delta operator. Also spent a lot of
time in Syria and Afghanistan. And uh, Brett came to prominence through his
calling out of Robin on his podcast, The Anti Hero Podcast. Yeah,
that was that was a great episode. Ben's cool. He seems like a
super down to earth guy. Yeah, no, I really liked him.
Two thirty six was doc Osgoode, author of is a book Hawk Recon.
Yeah, it's right behind you, Hawk Recon again, another Vietnam memoir.
Doc'saman dude. Yeah, just uh he gave us a chance to plug our
patreons on the show. Is perfect, No, he did. It's it's
interesting too because uh, you know, we're we're going back to a time
where the Special Operations as a concept, you know, special Forces, it
was special operations. But it was it was a you know, it had
a specific function. But and we talked about Macvie SAgs. But there are
units in one hundred and first and the units there, units that are creating
these specialty teams, uh, that are doing special operations. And you know,
so we would think today, you know, going out there and hanging
it all on the line that you know, we tend to forget about.
Uh, this is another one. I'm sorry I missed. Robin Horsfall s
a s Yeah. Now that that was a fantastic episode. And it's so
rare to get somebody from the SAS to the SBS on And yeah, Robin
was just like a peach of a dude. I spoke to him on the
phone a few times. He seems like a super like, articulate, smart
guy. Yeah, and we started late, We started at seven and he's
in the UK and he hung he hung in for over two hours. Yeah.
Wow, Yeah, I'm I'm sorry I missed that one. He sounded
like such a nice guy when I talk really was it was a fantastic episode.
Eight was Pasha Monroe, SBS operator. Yeah, and he was he
was great too. And again another like perspective. We hadn't had an SBS
guy on the show. Pasha was so much fun. Yeah, Like he's
just a dude who just has He's just like a dude, Like he's like
a bloke, you know, he's like, he's like a dude you just
want to sit and drink and hang out with. And Yeah, he's a
great dude. Another guy who had like a very like human story. Yeah,
you know, very human origin story and and really you know, through
I guess just through sher determination. Yeah, really turned himself into something.
It really really impressive. Yeah, great story. No. Episode two thirty
nine was Daniel Devine who was a crew chief with one sixtieth and man,
that guy had some really insightful stories too. The ones that stand out for
me actually are the Philippines. Yeah, because there's some stuff that I had
heard from like a different perspective, and then hearing kind of like an insider
from the one side, I'm like, oh, that's how that happened.
Yeah, Yeah, he was great. Uh to forty we had Mike Edwards
in studio. That was probably the third time we've had Mike on the show.
Yep, yeah, third two, but the first two we're remote,
we're remote. Second one was with his wife, right, and then this
time he is in studio, and it was just he's just such a great
person, like he's he's so fun to hang out with. Yeah, Mike's
solid. Yeah, always been a solid guy. Yeah. And yeah he's
he's a good dude. And you know, hope we we didn't even have
him back again sometimes two forty one, I think I think you may have
missed this one. Actually this was ya ya FANUSI yeah, because Jason Lyons
guest hosted on that one with right wedding, Oh right, yeah, not
mine? Hey, uh yah yah was a oh my gosh, I want
to say he was actually an economics analyst yah ya ya, and then he
spent time at NCTC. He was really good, really smart guy, really
smart. Yeah, really good story. And you know, I don't know
if anyone is keeping track or even cares, but like what we're trying to
do here is like establish a little sell of people who can like coming guest
host on the show when like either I can't make it or Dave can't make
it, or something goes really wrong, neither of us can make it.
So like people like Andy Milburgh Jason Lyons maybe like one or two other alternates.
We'd like to have ye who can come in again. And one of
the reasons for that it's not that neither. I mean, Jack is a
far better interviewer than I am, but I can, like, I can
get through it on my own. I did three episodes that are like the
best sellers for the years. Well, but what I'm saying though, is
one of the reasons we like to have these guest host is one it mixes
it up a little bit too. Yeah. Yeah. And as a as
a live podcast, the Goat that can go to two to three hours,
it's really great to have a second perspective of somebody else bring in the question.
Definitely, you know, because I will obviously just talk about the color
of their socks. Fascinated by that. Uh Brad Thomas, Yeah, Brad
came in. He was a an operator who's a ranger. He was an
RRD guy and it's the name of his band, uh, Silence and Light.
Yeah, so go check them out. It was great having him.
It was fantastic. He was so good. We're still eating the Halloween candy
he brought. Were almost done with it. Even though he pawned some of
those whoppers off on us, Like, don't think I don't know what you
were doing there, Brad, But I enjoyed the way you don't like whoppers.
No, I think we need to discuss this. I don't know if
I love them either. Okay, all right, I know there's a problem
here because you guys both order turkey sandwiches when there's other meat in the dels.
Go get the whoppers off the I want to stare at them to have
issues. Right, We're not gonna leave until you eat the whole past.
I just want to know there is beef in this studio right now, turkey
and non whoppers. There are problems. I can't believe you eat whoppers,
man. Whoppers are amazing, man, especially when you go ahead days,
especially when you get the deformed ones that they didn't quite like they have a
density. There's a problem with you, guys. So look, don't get
mad at us. Look at the camera. Thank Brad for the whopper.
Brad, thank you for the whoppers, And I apologize for these jimokes.
I apologize to. Forty three was Pete Blaber. Pete just wrote his third
volume of Common Sense Leadership, and that book, The new one is a
lot about the Pat Tillman ambush. So we had him on talking about his
career in his book. And actually I would like to have Pete on again
because we we kind of cut him off at like, he didn't even get
to the g WoT Yeah, exactly, because I didn't want to. I
want to make sure we talked about his new book. Pete was such a
for me personally. Pete was such an interesting like loop because I believe did
he say it was the S three or Pete was an officer. He had
already been an officer at you know, at the unit, and then when
I was a new ranger, he was an officer in battalion at battalion,
and people would talk about him in hushed whispers, you know, in the
chow hall. Oh he's been been behind the fence. And so it was
such kind of a and he didn't know who I was because I was some
you know, nothing four at the time. But it was such a cool
sort of loop to close in on right, to hear the whole rest of
the story, beyond the whole restory, beyond the about this person who was
this sort of mythical being when I was in range of battalion. He seemed
like a good guy, pretty down at earth dude. Yeah. Uh.
Two forty four was John Dovey, who served in the South African Defense Forces
and then the South African National Defense Forces SANDIFF. So when the when the
government changed over there, spent like thirty five years in the South African military.
Yeah, I mean those were like incredible insights. Yeah, from somebody
who spent the long time there, from like the external stuff in the in
the border war in Angola and then the internal and the village unrest of It's
such an education and a time that you know, yeah, like I remember,
you know, the whole don't place on city, like the whole sort
of you know of one aspect of what was going on in that well and
not just South Africa, but you know, in that region. But so
much of it is buried and lost to history. Without these guys, I
think, yeah, no, absolutely, or it doesn't get talked about,
right, you know, right, Yeah, I'm glad we could have him
on. Yeah. Absolutely. We had Greg Kocher on the show for a
second time. Yeah, with his nine Yeah, mostly talking about his knife
for cow. I mean that guy, first off, his story is amazing.
Yeah. Secondly, his knives are gorgeous. And Blades for Brothers.
Yeah, Blades for Brothers his organization to you know, help veterans and first
responders like develop new hobbies, new craft that it has actually helped him in
a measurable way through cognitive tests and whatnot. Yeah, Blades for Brothers.
Definitely worth supporting it. And also go check out his knives. I mean,
his knives are beautiful. Those of you who are like affectionados who are
really into that stuff, I mean, you're gonna love what he what he
does. Uh. Was William Yeski. We have his book That Damned the
Valley was the name of his book. He was in eighty second Infantrymen.
Yeah, a lot of Afghanistan stories had him in studio. He was awesome,
Yeah, fantastic, Yeah, he was great. Forty seven was Zach
Dorfman, the KGB spies infiltrating Silicon Valley, which, unfortunately, even though
Dan and I were here for them and Jack wasn't, we couldn't be a
part of it because we had a hot mic in the studio that we could
not yeah, taking figure it out. It was gonna sound horrible if we
plugged in the studio audio, so we did. It was just a zoom
to zoom interview. Yeah, thankfully, Yeah, thank god Jack. So
he and I just sat in the studio giving each other massages. Yeah,
well Jack talked to d or Love. Jack talked to that. Uh yeah,
go check out his podcast about it. It's like a limited series.
It's like six episodes about you know, somebody who committed acts of treason and
stealing industrial secrets from Silicon Valley. Episode two forty eight and episode two forty
nine was with Mike Vickers, author of By All Means Available as his memoir
Legend. Yeah, I mean tenth Special Forces Group CIA paramilitary officer then went
on to be the Assistant Secretary for Special Operations of the Intensity Conflict and the
Undersecretary for Defense Intelligence. Yeah. And I'm really glad, And I mean
he was very gracious with his time. Yeah. Two episodes and in two
weeks with us. They were great. So please go check those out.
Two fifty I missed it, Mark, Sorry Mark, what happened? But
you're not sorry because you said you don't miss Mark. I was just like
being pulling. Yeah, No, it's fantastic. You know, Mark worked
the you know, sort of Israeli guy's Israeli Hama's desk or either. That
was one of the issue issues that he dealt with and during his time at
the CIA, So he was very, very familiar with the region, with
the politics, with the issues I mean, and you know, obviously you
can see through the comments if you guys look sort of like Milburn's comments,
there are a lot of people with a lot of opinions. But I feel
like Mark is a very you know, he's a very bald, lunched person.
You know, he called out the problems when that in Yahoo. But
also nothing of that deals, you know, matters with the Hamas attack,
and so we talked about that. He caught us up on what's going on
with Ukraine and Russian some of the challenges going on with the funding there,
and also not just the funding, but what that funding has equated to what
it's amounted to. Yeah, and he's health wise, he's doing better if
you guys are are keeping up with his uh havana syndrome stuff. But yeah,
it's fantastic. And then this Friday, we're not going to have an
episode. We're having our company Christmas party, but we might go Live for
like fifteen minutes or something. Yeah, we might do something a little bit
in the show. Wait are we not? Wait? I thought we were
doing I thought we were doing Melissa's episode that's next week after that after this.
Oh yeah, well we said happy, we said Merry Christmas because I
thought it was a Christmas episode. I think it's the day between Christmas and
New Year's it's right episode. Oh yeah, the Christmas tree is still up.
It's okay. Yeah. Well anyway, uh, if you're actually watching
this episode and you've made it this far, make sure you watch Melissa's episode
that's gonna it's gonna be two fifty one. Melissa Nahetta. She is a
badassd awesome episode. It was great. Yeah, you guys are gonna love
her. Yeah. Yeah, And that brings us up to this episode.
The twenty twenty three Year in Review. What it's awesome, man, I
mean it's like three pages and names here. Man, it made it a
lot. Yeah, it was a good year. It was a really good
year. So in twenty twenty four, I mean we're scheduled into March.
I'm trying to finalize the second half of March right now. Actually, with
some really exciting people. But the people we have locked in right now.
We got a MARSK dude, some Special Forces guys. We have a soft
weather guy, combat weathermen. We got several ci A former CIA officers.
As I mentioned, Frank del Nicio will be here in studio. We have
pad O'donnald coming up. That's in June. That's you're right, you're right,
But that's a way. Oh, that's that's a way. I thought
it was in February. No, No, that book needs to come out.
Yeah, we do have him booked, but that's gonna I thought it
was in February. That's gonna be a ways out. We have some rangers,
another one sixtieth pilot, another macbe sag guy. There are a couple
other werps that I need to reach out to and schedule who are also talented
authors. Excited. I want to get that locked in for twenty twenty four.
And then we went out to dinner last week and talked about, like,
you know, the dream guests, like the people we want to have
on and I don't know if I want to like start throwing names out there
of people who we haven't even spoken to yet, but high hopes. Yeah,
set in the bar high Uh and uh. I thought that because we
talked about that on Andy Stumps show too, about dream guests, and I
thought his dream, his dream guest was W was a very good, you
know, very interesting from the idea of what did you think about all this?
Like what did you actually know what was he until you were getting in
It would be absolutely fascinating to like, ye sit down with W. We're
talking about President Bush and uh, like I've never heard him sit down and
do like a retrospective. Yeah, you know, just like, yeah,
this is kind of how it happened. This is what happened, and then
this and that, And I don't think did did did George Bush write a
memoir or anything? Yeah? I think he did. They usually do as
a president. Ever, Actually he sat down and talked about what went wrong
or what decision what I think what I don't want to say bad decisions,
because obviously a president makes decisions on the information they get. So yeah,
he came out with the memoir It's called Decision Points. Interesting. You know,
I think the former presidents sometimes are very reticent to speak publicly about this
stuff, including national security stuff. Yeah, partly as like some sort of
like the quorum, Like they don't want to fuck with the current administration,
right, guys, like if you're out there kind of like talking smacks or
not talking smack, but it could like kind of undermine what they're trying to
do. Yeah, So I think it's like a matter of like not policy,
but like the quorum that they normally don't go out and do that so
much. It's also kind of rightly or wrongly, it might be shitting on
the people who feed them their information because the president is not the one out
there collecting, but you're the guy who analyzed it, right, Yeah,
And at the end of the day, all you can trust is the information
you get. But I mean, now we're talking, you know, twenty
plus years after the fact, that, right, it would be a good
time for a historical retrospective on that. I agree, you know, that's
that's very like just neutral, and you know, we don't need to the
emotion has subsided at least a little bit. Yeah, there's still a lot
of anger out there. But and I'm curious if we hadn't have gotten involved
in Iraq, if Afghanistan would have gone any differently. That's a great question.
That's a great question. I mean, nobody will ever know, right,
Like it's all it's all subjective now, it's all you know, conjecture
or whatever. But it's interesting to think if we hadn't have been waging this
two front, where would Afghanistan have been different? Maybe maybe not. Yeah,
it's interesting. That'd be a great question as yeah. Yeah. Otherwise,
what's coming in twenty twenty four? We're still batting around the idea of
doing a new intro new merch is something I need to get off my ass
on. I didn't work on that. We all sit on their asses at
some point, I know, I do what else? What else do you
guys want to do in twenty twenty four? Maybe a new podcast different,
a little bit different. Maybe we'll see. We've been batting that around talking
about it. I mean it would be and listen, we're just like spit
bawling here, Like we haven't even like formalized or really like come up with
any idea we're attached to. But like one idea is to like find somebody
else, I mean maybe one of the people guest host for us to come
in and do their own show like Midweek and they would bring in their own
guests, or have their own type of content in the national security. Sure.
Yeah, D and I have talked about doing movie stuff just because D
is brilliant movies and I'm and I watch a ton of them. I watch
a ton too. I'm not that good. I made one movie. You
did one movie these movies called Jimbo. Where can people find that? You
find it on YouTube? On YouTube? Just there. Yeah, I might
put it back on Amazon Prime. But it's a great like, it's a
great indie heist film, it's a crime film ideal that I'd love to revisit.
The gaming idea at some point, we just need to be, you
know, we just need to be We need to be I think smart in
how we do it to find committed people and and and not just people who
are committed in the idea that they'll be here when they said they're going to
be here, but also committed in the sense that they'll read the real books
like they like. They need that they engaged with it, that they that
they want to be it. I h I really missed gaming. I had
two campaigns going every the same time, and and now they're they're kind of
concluded or wound down. And uh, I would love to get back into
it. Yeah, I remember, was it Did I make a deal or
that they get taken over? Remember when I played the Warlock that almost fucked
everybody up? Yeah yeah yeah, one of my online uh campaign on Fantasy
Grounds, and you played in the first, very first one I think in
your character got killed. Yeah, and then I brought you back like fifty
games later, your resurrected form came back. A witch had resurrected you.
Yeah. Yeah, you were just like taxing that ass. Yeah, beating
up the other player characters. I actually didn't kill them all intense like I
was like, I was like, I don't want to. I don't want
to do it like a full party, like a full party wipe here.
Yeah, I don't think. I don't think the players realized until later when
I told them like that you were their lives were in your hands. Yeah.
Like as a DM, I was just like, if you killed them,
you were killing them. That's just how it was going to be.
Yeah. Yeah, no, I remember that. That was one of the
funnest parts of that campaign. Actually, but yeah, I know I would
I would love to, Like, if we can work out something like that
works, I have to do it. Yeah, well we'll do we'll do
a game for episode three hundred, a little trial run, see how it
goes. And I don't know who the other player are going to be.
H, we got to work on that one. I'm down to be a
player. I never played D and D Okay, I think they would be
a great player. I mean, Lina's down, are you know our former
guest and you know she's been she bet she'd be down for it. Yeah
yeah, Lona's fun. Yeah, it'd be a good time. So that's
twenty twenty three. I was going to say in a nutshell, but we've
probably gone for like a yeah. Yeah, it's a big ass nut Yeah.
But thank you everyone who like joined us in twenty twenty three. Everyone
watched the show, you know, shared these episodes. So we got eighteen
million views this year on YouTube. Yeah, wow, that's a lot.
Yeah, it's looking at the stats, it's pretty good. Eighteen point four
million views. Hello. Yeah, and thank you for supporting the channel,
keeping us going, like the team house is a thing now. Thanks for
saying to us and airports when you recognize it and walk them through like I
get off on the fame, all the you know, all of you guys
that are you know, giving me the flash all of it and uh yeah,
and people who you know have sent us guest suggestions. Yeah, like,
hey, I know this dude, you got to talk to him and
and sometimes it doesn't pan out for various reasons, but sometimes the results are
awesome. Yeah, you never know, so keep them coming, you know,
especially I don't I'd love to feature like more women on the show.
Uh so, like if you know women in the intelligence community and uh,
special operations searching, I don't get that you're in relate you're in a happy
relationship and I'm in a happier I'd like that. I'd like to have more
happy team house podcast relationships with expand our reach a little bit. Uh.
There's there's this running joke about this place being a man cave with testosterone level.
I mean it is, and there is a lot of test ustering.
But look, I mean the women we have on have a lot of test
like they're they're badass women. You know, it doesn't matter if they're an
analyst or an operator or an intelligence software or whatever else. Like, they're
badass. So so that's it, guys. I'm looking forward to twenty twenty
four. Hope you are, hope to see you here on the show.
And that's it. Final thoughts, guys. I'm excited for twenty twenty four.
I'm ready to go. I'm ready. Peace,