1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:06,040 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to a Geek forst review. I'm the 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:11,720 clown Prince of Ghoules Trustell. I'm joined by Oh, I am the large 3 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:16,960 bucket of drugs Dyl Muss. I'm the foot Zeerum Taylor Field. Oh one, 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,719 Gotchay walket you there and a good laugh there. I just had. 5 00:00:22,559 --> 00:00:26,879 Yes, Jean, we are here to talk about Fallout, the Amazon series. 6 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:29,399 I was gonna do a little search because I camember when was announced. 7 00:00:29,399 --> 00:00:33,560 I think it was announced quite a few years ago, because I think we've 8 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,200 been talking about it's one of those like, kay, it's Amazon days. 9 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:41,320 I thought it was really I thought that's insane. I could be wrong, 10 00:00:41,359 --> 00:00:43,840 but I thought it was Basement days. When we just got the announcement, 11 00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:47,159 that was like twenty sixteen. You think it's been now long? Yeah, 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,000 I'm pretty sure. I remember it was a sunny day. We're sitting in 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,119 your room there, Dylan, and I remember the mows just came up. 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,320 We're talking about it. First of all, we went to the basement day 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,600 still twenty seventeen, because we were still there for Logan while. I remember 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,719 that, but I do, Okay, Yeah, I moved to the customer 17 00:01:03,759 --> 00:01:06,719 Dome in twenty seventeen, I believe. Yeah, yeah, well it might 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,879 be hard to find beut looking to you, but it's been announced for a 19 00:01:07,879 --> 00:01:11,879 while. We did the review and stuff. But yeah, we're here and 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,519 talk about Fall if you've not watched it all because obviously dropped it a binge 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,120 style. Amazon's kind of all all over the place of their series. Sometimes 22 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,359 they do three a time, then the series. Sometimes it's weekly. Sometimes 23 00:01:22,359 --> 00:01:25,040 it is a binge because they did this with the first episode of Reacher and 24 00:01:25,159 --> 00:01:27,359 first episode of the our first season the Boys too, so I don't know 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:33,280 what their plans is. Here we'll talk about the pros and cons that and 26 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,879 yeah, head out. If you're a video game fan, you listen to 27 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,480 this, or you listen to Halo reviews, make sure check out side Quest. 28 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,359 We just did a very fun one. Check out even for the opening 29 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:45,000 segment. I had a good time, and it's inspired an Originals conversation coming 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,879 up too, So yeah, that was a good time with me. Kirk 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,599 Well, Kirklam was there for a minute and then he bounced. Now I'm 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,920 joking, he is there, all right, Taylor can gone. I don't 33 00:01:52,959 --> 00:01:56,760 know anymore. Yeah, and then if you like what we do here, 34 00:01:56,799 --> 00:02:00,959 there's sons of reviews. We review weekly shows like x In soon. You 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,760 know Star Wars the show coming up. There'll be a bunch of movies coming 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,120 up retro so, lots of good jazz. Taylor, where can they find 37 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,599 everything we do? Leads don't with your connection in the search Bark geek Verse 38 00:02:09,599 --> 00:02:13,039 dot CAA is our home base. You first cast is our Twitter, geek 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,080 Versus is our Facebook. 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Because Taylor, 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,840 I don't think you, I think you've dabbled in the fall. But I 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,759 don't think you've ever purchased a game, because I know classically for the Fault 51 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:59,159 four review, you just sat there the whole time while we reviewed it in 52 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,800 the basement day you remember that. I don't think you picked up seventy six, 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,639 so you don't have a big history with this. But how was your 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,039 how was your time with the show as nonspoilers and your thoughts? Yeah? 55 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:14,080 So, I mean my you pretty much landed my experience spot on. The 56 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,000 only Fallout game I've approachased was Fallout three, And I was back when I 57 00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:19,560 was a teenager at my first job, and I had tons of money and 58 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:22,840 I was just blowing it on video games, tons of money. I was 59 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:25,000 rund movie theater, paying no rents and I was just making I was making 60 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:29,159 making money, So I was going to games selling drugs on the side. 61 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:30,520 I wasn't. I wasn't saving I should have saved anything. I was not 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,319 wise. I was in EB Games every day, buying games. I remember 63 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,759 every day, Oh my god, every day working at the movie theater, 64 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,360 was at the mall. EB games is next door. God, yeah, 65 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,919 you're not alone. There's so many movies I bought at best by but I 66 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,479 didn't even need to. Like I like Game of Thrones, I would be 67 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,919 like, complained that, man, these seasons when they come out there like 68 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:50,400 one hundred and fifty dollars. Here was Travis just slamming down that debit card 69 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,800 right after high school unlimited money. You're like, yeah, I can buy 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,159 it. I gotta live rent free. So I guess, yeah, rough, 71 00:03:55,439 --> 00:04:00,560 but yeah. So my my experience was followed three, and I I'm 72 00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:03,280 pretty sure I maybe have played a little bit of New Vegas. But the 73 00:04:03,319 --> 00:04:08,000 one the one thing I do remember is I boot up Fallout three. I 74 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:10,360 got out of the vault. I think that's how it went, and I 75 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,680 went on exploring this building and I just got fucking a nihilated. I thought, 76 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:15,319 you know what, at this point, I was already pretty seasoned. 77 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,160 I was sad. I was seasoned in other scrolls, and I thought, 78 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,120 you know what, I know, I know what I'm good at, I 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,759 know what I enjoy, and that's playing Elder Scrolls. So I went back 80 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:28,079 into oblivion. I didn't really ever gonna like look back, look back into 81 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:31,079 that that world, but I've always been kind of interested. You go ahead, 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,360 Are you disappointed at Todd Howard. So they're not going to make an 83 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:39,360 Elder Scrolls game. I was very surprised this movie show. Yeah, no, 84 00:04:39,399 --> 00:04:43,399 they not said too that we got the trailer, don't with that game. 85 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,560 No, he just already said no, we're not going to do that. 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,160 Are you said by that? No? I think that. I mean 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:54,079 I would be happy surprise the door so quickly. That's a that's a big 88 00:04:54,399 --> 00:04:57,879 that's a big thing to tackle. And I'm totally okay with just immersing myself 89 00:04:57,879 --> 00:04:59,680 in the world of the games for that. I don't I don't need a 90 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,040 show if I want that kind of excitement. I got load of the rings. 91 00:05:02,079 --> 00:05:08,000 I'll let's put put that on. But I think with this I never 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,160 I never went back to it, and I've always though kept tabs on it. 93 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:14,199 I don't know the lore, I don't know all of the stuff. 94 00:05:14,199 --> 00:05:16,160 But when Fallout four came out, I was interested. I enjoyed the memes 95 00:05:16,199 --> 00:05:20,040 and just seeing I watched like game clips and whatnot of other people playing it. 96 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,279 So I've definitely had a little bit of interest in the world. And 97 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,959 then Fallout seventy six came out, and I've just kind of like piggyback from 98 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,319 the shadows of that, so I'm definitely familiar with some things to find Piggyback 99 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,079 from the Shadows, what were you doing? Well, I'm not actually like 100 00:05:36,519 --> 00:05:41,480 up front talking to people about it, but I'm definitely like Piggyback from the 101 00:05:41,519 --> 00:05:47,959 Shadows from the Shadows. But getting into the show, it's cool to be 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,680 able to understand and be familiar with certain things, but there's still so much 103 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,560 that I am definitely not proficient on. So I'll be relying on you guys 104 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,759 to shed a lot of light for this, and I think that it can. 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,360 Where I come from in regards to Halo being very very stingy about that, 106 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:09,680 I am curious where you guys are going to take a position on this 107 00:06:09,759 --> 00:06:12,759 with anyone of those or Halo reviews. Do not expect me to have as 108 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,759 much knowledge on Fallout as Taylor does on I do all day. You know 109 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:25,639 how many more games I play than you, Taylor? Two one. So 110 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,680 I've I've I've been I've been telling myself all day like, Okay, I'm 111 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,160 gonna be looking at Dylan because I know he's got a lot more experience, 112 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,319 but no, it's just there's there's so much going on in this world and 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,079 I've just I've taken onto the forums just to try to see what people are 114 00:06:40,079 --> 00:06:43,959 talking about, and people are, uh, some people are pissed off about 115 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,959 what's canon what's not cannon, but we'll get into that in spoilers. So 116 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:50,839 I'm just I'm excited to talk about this. But overall, I definitely enjoyed 117 00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:54,360 the show. For the most part, I think it was it was pretty 118 00:06:54,399 --> 00:06:56,839 fun. There's a couple of characters that I just thought were idiots and I 119 00:06:56,879 --> 00:06:59,399 didn't care for, But then I had to remind myself, maybe this is 120 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,240 just that Fallout world some stuff that was really flamboyantly comedic or just kind of 121 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:11,959 stupid. I wasn't sure if this is something that super diehard fans would be 122 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,319 able to deduce something. Oh yeah, this is just part of the show. 123 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,319 It makes sense. It fits with the narrative and the scheme of things, 124 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,519 I guess. But there's a lot of different factions that I wasn't familiar 125 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,519 with, just a lot of stuff that I was just trying to learn. 126 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,199 But I think the show does a great job at kind of bringing on a 127 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,560 new person who's not familiar with this world on board, and you can kind 128 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,519 of get you can get connected with these characters, and I think that they 129 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,720 do a lot of things right. Again, the hour long episodes are fantastic. 130 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,279 Disney take notes for Fox's sakes, but I think that the show was 131 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,160 It was a really intriguing story. I was really really engaged with it, 132 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,240 and I was not expecting really the finale we got. But I had fun 133 00:07:49,319 --> 00:07:55,680 trying to formulate, like different theories and storylines. I guess, holds up, 134 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,519 what was that sound? Did you hear the jingle? Yeah? Just 135 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,240 don't ignore it, ignore it. Don't ignore it. Okay, No, 136 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:09,000 don't don't worry, just ignore it it geez Okay, it's Madison. Yeah, 137 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:09,959 with the caller they were playing. That's why it was late to the 138 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:18,399 casts. Mastare thought, I'll go next. I'll leave mister Bethesda for last 139 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,399 year. You gotta bring that back. It's been while since you got to 140 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,639 use that. But uh yeah, all I did is play Fault four. 141 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:28,639 That was definitely the hype of we did. It was the combo of the 142 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:33,279 podcast, and they just had a killer E three that year. I remember, 143 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,519 I loved to me how they launched Fallout four and what they did every 144 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,039 studio take. No, that was a flawless, like not like it wasn't 145 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:45,200 a bug or anything, but just like the ethere presentation, the hype, 146 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,279 the not really fully announcing a date till it was like months, Like it 147 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,679 was like they announced it, give you the day, and what June it 148 00:08:50,759 --> 00:08:54,639 was ready and whenever what did they usually release it specific day? Right, 149 00:08:54,799 --> 00:09:00,399 Damber? Yeah, So that to me was like, that's how you do 150 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,600 it in video games, and I wish they would do that more often all 151 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,159 companies. But so I got that because I've never really seen or played much 152 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,039 of Fallout because it's sole player games, so I wasn't like hanging around my 153 00:09:11,039 --> 00:09:13,960 friends while they were playing. It had never gone my radar most of but 154 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,080 that stuff hadn't at that point as well either, So jumped in there. 155 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,960 Loved my experience there. I've always wanted to go back and do three, 156 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 and that's probably my list first, or New Vegas because I always talk about 157 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,799 how I love Fault four. People like, oh, but yeah, it's 158 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,840 just like another version of three, So I'm like, okay, well four 159 00:09:26,919 --> 00:09:30,679 is that? Then? What's three? So? I love the world. 160 00:09:30,759 --> 00:09:33,799 I love the wayte lant end to Tato's point, I do really enjoy the 161 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:39,200 character and the I don't say slap slapsticky, but sometimes tongue in cheeks sort 162 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,279 of humor vibes they have, which I think the show does carry over at 163 00:09:43,279 --> 00:09:46,240 times, which I was happy to see because I never saw a second trailer, 164 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:50,440 but the first ship I remember being pretty serious and I was like, 165 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,879 Ah, this isn't like the fall I necessarily won. This is coming from 166 00:09:52,919 --> 00:09:56,960 the one game. But even if you look back everything with Fallout and the 167 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:01,960 promotion for seventy six with the what's the guy as a vault boy and everything 168 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,679 like that, right, Like, just in general, it's not like Deadpool 169 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:09,039 levels, but they have some very mature comedic things that I enjoy were Eliscrolls 170 00:10:09,039 --> 00:10:11,279 doesn't have that. Starfield doesn't have that, right, but That's always has 171 00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:15,360 some kookie stuff of fault. It felt like at times I was dripping the 172 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,960 music as a character, and I think, again, I'm gonna just credit 173 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,399 myself an other people that said it. I think that for majority, I 174 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:26,440 will say seventy five to eighty percent of these games work so much better as 175 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,320 a TV show, And I think this is a case where I think they 176 00:10:30,799 --> 00:10:33,399 pretty much knocked out of the park. I don't think it's gonna be like, 177 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,039 I'm not gonna remember all this one of the best shows. But did 178 00:10:35,039 --> 00:10:39,600 I consistently have like a really good time or fun time with it? Yes, 179 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:43,240 there's some stuff that I didn't love, but overall, and again with 180 00:10:43,279 --> 00:10:45,480 that slapsticky, I would have maybe, you know, tongue in cheek, 181 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,960 I would have liked a little more of that. I think at times I've 182 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:52,240 seen some people like Mike and Discord said like I got maybe not worse from 183 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,440 or lessers and went on. It was the reverse for me where the pilot 184 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,399 for me was just kind of fine. That just felt like it was a 185 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,720 lot to explain the world. But I was like, this is like I'm 186 00:11:01,919 --> 00:11:05,279 entertained, but I'm not I'm not like dying to see it right where I 187 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:07,360 feel like from five and on I was like, Okay, I really want 188 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,840 to get into it. I really liked how they chronologically told the story. 189 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,039 It felt like the right amount to give you little pieces of the back half 190 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,720 of the world, the pre destruction, and then go to the other route. 191 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:22,159 I liked all three stories. Walton Goggins Man like again it makes me 192 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,240 so sad. In the MCU he was just some stupid weapons dealer in ant 193 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,039 Man two, and he did nothing like this guy one of those underappreciated actors 194 00:11:30,039 --> 00:11:33,879 in Hollywood. He's so good and under that makeup gives a great performance. 195 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:35,960 God, what's her name, el Pronell? I think it is never seen 196 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,840 her. I guess I've seen her in she was in Army Darkness or Army 197 00:11:39,919 --> 00:11:43,039 Dead Zack Snyder's movie. She's like Batista's daughter or something so other than that. 198 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,320 And I hear great things about Arcaane, but I've never watched it. 199 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,440 She's a really good lead and I'm really excited, whether there's season two of 200 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,879 the show or just other things she's in. I'm excited to see her career 201 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:56,759 go. And I liked the guy and the character play. Maxis. We'll 202 00:11:56,759 --> 00:11:58,399 get him in, we'll get into it more. But I actually liked that 203 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,600 developing story because I think they did do a good job giving you moral gray 204 00:12:03,759 --> 00:12:05,960 characters, and many of them were doing things that you didn't agree with. 205 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,720 Think, ah, that's kind of shitty, but that's kind of fallout us. 206 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:11,720 Ah, that's kind of shitty. So the and I'd say probably the 207 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:15,200 best thing is other than like I said, I want a bit more humor. 208 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:18,919 I felt like the actual world and as far as iconography all the way, 209 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,879 like the way the computers look and the typeing to just like everything you'd 210 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:26,919 want from the video game. They put that in there, but it doesn't 211 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:28,240 feel like a new person has to know that stuff. It's like, Oh, 212 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,399 this is the world, this is the way the world works. So 213 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,639 I thought the world building was really great. You saw lots of areas from 214 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,080 at least from for certain areas that I had seen Fault four. So no, 215 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,360 I think this is up there with I'd have to look at it because 216 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,879 we've gone some at least for video game adaptions. I think it's like a 217 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:46,480 top five, maybe a top three, because I think it's last of us 218 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,919 and then I have to work my way down. But I think they did 219 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:52,159 a great job. And the best thing is this ended, and I wanted 220 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,399 more, you know, it did kind of in a way where you could 221 00:12:54,759 --> 00:12:56,679 go away. But I thought they did a great job. And this is 222 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,519 one thing where there was a lot of mystery box stuff. I do think 223 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:01,840 they shot themselves in the foot and they shouldn't have been a binge. I 224 00:13:01,879 --> 00:13:05,799 think this could have got a lot more traction and it's being washed. I 225 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,600 can't remember. I think that SMA numbers are good and everything, but I 226 00:13:07,639 --> 00:13:13,120 think unfortunately for them, which I don't know why, I'd say at least 227 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,960 half of these episodes, and in like a cliffhangary sort of way, and 228 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:18,639 I feel like what we were reviewing, our people talking about, you would 229 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:22,679 have had conversation the whole week of what they're gonna do, But you get 230 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,200 that answer in thirty seconds, you know, especially in those later episodes, 231 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,240 there's some big cliffhangers and you just got to wait through the credits and you 232 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,360 get your answer. So I think some shows you can do a binge, 233 00:13:31,399 --> 00:13:35,600 but I think they missed a big opportunity here. I think the mystery box 234 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,000 element would have helped it. But yeah, I really enjoyed this show. 235 00:13:39,039 --> 00:13:41,159 I have, you know, some maybe cons with nothing huge, nothing that 236 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,240 really took the show down from me acting story wise, telling a few little 237 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,759 critiques. But yeah, that's my thoughts. So I throw over to mister 238 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:54,840 Bethesda, mister be Yeah, I guess my background first of all, followed 239 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,919 three. I was the first one I played back in the day, not 240 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,639 Ray when it came out, but shortly thereafter. Really enjoyed it always been 241 00:14:01,639 --> 00:14:03,519 more Milder's trolls guy, but really like jumping in Fallot three and then follow 242 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:07,080 Out New Vegas. Played a lot of that game, and that's the one 243 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:09,279 I've that's always been my favorite. I think I've done like three full play 244 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:15,080 throughs of that game. There's so much RPG elements to that, different factions 245 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,399 and stuff, Travis, that's definitely the one you should go play Vegas for 246 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:22,440 the RPG elements of it, the story stuff. It's definitely the best, 247 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:24,720 the cream of the crop there. And then you know Fallout four. Really 248 00:14:24,799 --> 00:14:28,360 enjoyed that game as well, played some Fallout seventy six, played some fall 249 00:14:28,559 --> 00:14:33,039 Shelter, and then sometime after playing all those games, I've like gone back 250 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,720 and checked out Followed one and two, but they're so old, and like 251 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:39,799 old PC games are so hard to just even know how to like where you're 252 00:14:39,799 --> 00:14:41,960 supposed to click and stuff, so I've just like barely dabbled in those. 253 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,759 But yeah, for me, it's mostly New Vegas, which I love so 254 00:14:45,879 --> 00:14:48,120 much. And then I'd say Followed three is my second favorite, and then 255 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:54,559 I like follow It four as well. But yeah, I was really really 256 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,159 impressed with this show. I think for me it was mostly visually this show 257 00:14:58,159 --> 00:15:03,240 looks as fucking amazing the whole way through. There is like maybe one or 258 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:07,559 two points where like there's some bad looking CGI or something, but like it's 259 00:15:07,639 --> 00:15:11,200 like, you know, in eight hours of TV, like only having that 260 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:16,799 amount of bad looking stuff is really impressive and it really brought the world of 261 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:20,240 Fallout to life. So I really appreciate that part to it, Travis, 262 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:22,720 kind of what you were saying there, Like, I also was like not 263 00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:24,440 super invested in the first episode or two. It took me a bit to 264 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,440 really get into the story, get invested in the characters. And I think 265 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,720 it's because there are a couple of storylines that we're either really slow or even 266 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:33,440 by the end I don't necessarily love, and I was just when we're spending 267 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,480 time with them, I was a little out of it. And then, 268 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,600 unfortunately for me, like the very ending, like the last half an hour, 269 00:15:39,879 --> 00:15:41,639 there's a lot that happens in the last half an hour this show, 270 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:45,919 and some of it is really cool and I'm excited to break it down other 271 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,679 stuff like this, this show isn't really like an ending, Like it's very 272 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:52,879 much like all right, Season two let's go like there's various storylines that are 273 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:56,559 just not even like they're not even cliffhanging read. They just like don't have 274 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,600 any sort of ending to them. So of course I'm a little on edge 275 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,600 of how I feel about that. Maybe I just got to sit on it 276 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:04,000 some more. But for the most part, the rest of the show, 277 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,320 like the other you know, five or six episodes, kind of in the 278 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,120 middle there, I really enjoyed it. I think for me it kind of 279 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:15,080 you know, with that video game format, taking it and like almost playing 280 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,879 this shows like here are different playthroughs of people in the Wasteland, which is 281 00:16:21,039 --> 00:16:25,440 great where you have like Lucy Ella Pernell kind of playing like your classic like 282 00:16:25,559 --> 00:16:27,200 Vault Dweller, like you going out to the Wasist for the first time, 283 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:30,879 so that feels like very much like a game experience. And then Walton Goggins 284 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:34,679 feels like a really cool like RPG run I would do, or like I'm 285 00:16:34,679 --> 00:16:38,799 gonna play some Cowboy Google type which is really fun. And then having someone 286 00:16:38,879 --> 00:16:44,519 kind of focused on the Brotherhood of Steel because that's always such an interesting faction. 287 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:48,559 Eventually getting the NCR in there too, so that's interesting. If you 288 00:16:48,559 --> 00:16:52,360 don't follow them as much, and then just a ton of different vault stuff, 289 00:16:52,399 --> 00:16:55,759 like I think we see four different vaults in total, right maybe, 290 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,519 and then you know, getting different information about each of them and kind of 291 00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:03,639 following like Lucy's brother and he's on this whole other storyline through these vaults and 292 00:17:03,679 --> 00:17:07,559 stuff as well. So you get a lot of different locations and different characters 293 00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:11,279 and different setups. And I just from the lower perspective, really enjoyed a 294 00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:12,240 lot of it. You know, I love these games, but I think 295 00:17:12,279 --> 00:17:17,200 I mostly love it for the atmosphere, as weird as that sounds for a 296 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,599 game that has a dire atmosphere. I just like bumping around and doing random 297 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:25,200 stuff, and so I'm not necessarily super deep on the lore, but there 298 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:29,680 was just a lot of like familiar types of locations, whether that's just like 299 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,000 the Super Duper Mard or the Red Rocket things like that. But then also 300 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,119 like this setting is fun and new, like they haven't really maybe in Followed 301 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,920 one or two, or Tactics or one of these other random games. They 302 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,400 are in California, and like the beaches and stuff of California, but for 303 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,880 the most part, like this is a new environment because Followed threes in Washington, 304 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:51,200 New Vegas is in Vegas. Four is in like Boston area. Seventy 305 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:55,039 six is what like West Virginia, I think, right, So this is 306 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:57,599 like a fun, new, different setting and it's a pretty classic movie setting 307 00:17:57,599 --> 00:18:02,519 as well. So to see some like places with the followup lens on it 308 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,279 is really cool. So yeah, o'all was really impressed. I really had 309 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:07,519 a good time with it, and I definitely hope we get season two because 310 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:11,039 there's a lot of storylines here that are left wide open and I want to 311 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:12,799 see more of them and see where they go. One thing you said, 312 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:15,359 I can't remember what you said, but triggered a thought in my mind is 313 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,039 I think something that Last of Us didn't do. But that's for a good 314 00:18:19,079 --> 00:18:23,119 reason. It's always tough with these of how do you capture the magic of 315 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,240 a side quest in a movie or show for video game. I think this 316 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:30,400 is the best example if I get them for same thing song like, that's 317 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,440 not what I'm designed for, right, But when we get other TV show 318 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:36,279 ones, I think Wicher at times did that well. But this is the 319 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:40,400 best example show so far of you'll your character or one of the three characters 320 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,440 will bump into some funny situation, and they will intertwine them into the story, 321 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:48,240 whether it is for the actual main store or just like a character moment 322 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,839 to learn more about them. Right, it's not just here's a random action 323 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,960 set piece, because well, we want to have like cool side quest stuff 324 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,440 like they do in video games, So here we go. It's like everything 325 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:59,839 kind of informs something else. So I thought they did a good job of 326 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,039 anything would happen. You wouldn't know, Okay, is this gonna lead us 327 00:19:03,079 --> 00:19:06,359 to more on the main story or is it gonna be something that's just off 328 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,119 the side, a fun little beat. But they never just felt meaningless, 329 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:11,799 which was good, and they created I think, like Fallout, well it's 330 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:15,400 a good kookie characters along the way that you would bump into, like the 331 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,240 doctor or that gooul we meet later on in kind of like episode three where 332 00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:22,759 he's having a tough time meeting some medicine like but again that you know, 333 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,880 goes into the you know, Walton Goggins story. So I think the side 334 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,720 quest aspect that was very very well done. And it's a because it's a 335 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:34,839 hard thing to catch, Like it's hard to transfer something so specific to video 336 00:19:34,839 --> 00:19:37,920 games to a movie, you know, because we've talked about so many times 337 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,279 in the other shows a review where that could happen. But I'm like, 338 00:19:41,319 --> 00:19:42,519 oh, that was a waste of time, Like just cut that scene out 339 00:19:42,519 --> 00:19:45,119 of there. You don't know where. I don't think that was here. 340 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,599 I think that fun stuff was good to have and it all worked. So 341 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,200 this isn't a spoiler, but it's it's a it's a good line. I 342 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,599 think at piggybacks off of what you're saying, Travis, thou shalt thou shall 343 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:02,880 get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time. And I think that they if you 344 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,480 know, you know, and that made me laugh, And I think that 345 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,720 I think to your point there, Trevis, that the different side tangent stuff 346 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,160 that kind of just unfolding the story, even if it's really minor, and 347 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,559 it adds to an overarching narrative later on, Like there's a few of those 348 00:20:17,559 --> 00:20:21,680 moments. I think that it's all very intriguing and it's really engaging. Yeah, 349 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:22,799 and I think they choose it right, Like I'll get in the spoils, 350 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:26,799 but there's a certain character that they could have bunch did like a bunch 351 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:29,680 of side quests with and they didn't. They just did one and then that 352 00:20:29,799 --> 00:20:32,160 character kind of went away after that. I was glad because like, uh, 353 00:20:32,599 --> 00:20:34,240 this character's fine, but I also don't need like a bunch of stops 354 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,440 with them. So I think they used it sparingly. And again how they 355 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:41,599 told how he got to you know, the the bombs and everything. I 356 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:45,039 think they did a very good job because if you would have told that chronologically, 357 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,759 I don't think people would have been on board with the show. You 358 00:20:48,799 --> 00:20:49,440 know, like Last of Us did that a little bit too, so I 359 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,200 think with video games that works. And yeah, anything else non spoils before 360 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:59,440 bringing down, Yeah, just all showed up. The music. Of course, 361 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,480 they grabbed lot of like the most iconic songs from the games from the 362 00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:07,240 radio, which I like a lot more than I was expecting. And then 363 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:11,680 also when they'd grab just like certain score elements from the games, I thought 364 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,720 those were all used really effectively, where it's like the NCR sort of thing 365 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:18,359 theme or just like the main sort of theme song thing. I just saw 366 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,880 all that was used really well. And I guess, you know, going 367 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,759 to this, I just had such low expectations because I just like didn't want 368 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:29,240 to be disappointed. I guess but I also I think I kind of forget 369 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,240 how big of a Fallout fan I am at times, and I'm like, 370 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,920 man, so many of these TV games, these video game TV or movies 371 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,279 don't really work out, Like, what are the odds of one that I'm 372 00:21:37,319 --> 00:21:40,920 really invested in is actually gonna pan out? And the fact that it did, 373 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,000 like, I guess I just give myself the chance to get excited for 374 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:48,000 it. So I guess that blew me away. But yeah, just just 375 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,880 getting some of those songs in there too, Like that's such a big part 376 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,720 of Fallout for me, is like that music, the radio, It's a 377 00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:57,279 huge part of it. So that to really get all the favorites in there 378 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,559 was was really fun to see. And I'm probably gonna be blasting those on 379 00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:04,000 my Spotify pretty soon. Here. You know, the video game I consider 380 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:07,160 the greatest story of all time. Last was because it's great HBO show your 381 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,119 Fallouts. You know you love Fallout that Lord, you get that great show, 382 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:15,680 Taylor Apocalypse. Maybe that's the that's the through a line here, Taylor, 383 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,039 you love Halo, you got that great show to go with it. 384 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,359 You know, we're living in the heavens right now. Cheeks two seasons and 385 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,960 no one more seasons than Follower, Last of Us, so that's true. 386 00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:30,440 So yeah, it was cool. That's something I don't know Amazon was doing 387 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,119 that. When you pause it, it lists the song and there's literally they 388 00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:37,519 take a whole track from Fall for it. When there's two scenes back to 389 00:22:37,559 --> 00:22:40,960 back where the out the song was listed from Fault for the and had the 390 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,839 video game art and everything, so they literally just took like songs. It's 391 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:48,519 like that. That's what I love too, where they adapted the game and 392 00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,799 did things for the fans. But if I don't think my mom's watching Fault 393 00:22:51,799 --> 00:22:53,480 but she paused, she's not gonna be like, oh my god, Like 394 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:56,680 I don't know. This was a music. It's there for us to appreciate, 395 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,880 and that just blends in for everybody else, but for even myself was 396 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,079 like a little knowledge. You go, oh, that's really cool that they 397 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,359 did that. You know they didn't have to. So again, who no, 398 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,839 I guess Jonathan Nolan, but he's didn't show run. He directed a 399 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,119 couple, but the two show runners there, I think they did it. 400 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,400 If they didn't love the games, then they had people around them that definitely 401 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,440 did. You know, like whoever was in this room. They had passion 402 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:19,920 for and that's that's what you want, right, you want people to have 403 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,119 passion for these things. So Halo season three, Taylor, Redemption's coming. 404 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,319 I'm telling you what's the next one? Before were gonna suppose what's the next 405 00:23:29,319 --> 00:23:32,359 one? Hail's a loss? Cause what's your next? Like? Is it 406 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,839 Assassin's Creed? That Netflix show that they announced ten years ago? You need 407 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,200 that one to hit, right, I would imagine I would like it to 408 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:42,079 hit, But like I don't know, I mean, like what other video 409 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:47,559 game adaptation shows are on the horizon. Well, I'm just no, I'm 410 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,799 just saying like in general, like yes, no, I was justnic I'm 411 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:53,799 definitely p I've put an above Assassin's Creed in Halo at this point, I'm 412 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:57,039 looking forward to Knuckles. Okay, well we'll return back to someone in the 413 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,880 times longer conversation was an easy answer, but it wasn't. We gotta get 414 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,720 spoilered. So if you've not seen it, because like we said, it 415 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:07,720 is a bench style come back, it'll be sitting here on the key first 416 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,920 feed or the review feed because it's sometimes easy to find reviews of TV shows 417 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,039 everything like that because they're all right there, so we will be right back, 418 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,240 and we're back. So I actually want to start kind of character by 419 00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:23,160 character, and I want to start with the Ghoul because I feel like that's 420 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,759 a good way to kind of get the origin of this world. And he 421 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,720 does. I can't remember what his real life character name is. I'll have 422 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,519 to look it up. That they have Cooper Cooper Howard, Cooper Howard. 423 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:37,039 Yeah, he's a movie star, very rig Dalton type of vibes in the 424 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,319 world and stuff. But the first episode I don't think I loved, but 425 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:47,240 I love the opening scene of he's been paid to go to this birthday party 426 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,119 because he's a big star, and he's doing these things with these kids and 427 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,480 like, oh yeah, i'll take a picture doing an autograph and he's there 428 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,559 with his daughter, and then there's just this mini conversation of how you can 429 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,200 tell the difference between a bomb up. If you put your thumb up and 430 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,400 it's small, then you run. If it's bigger than your thumb, then 431 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,319 don't bother because you're dad. And then I love when the bomb goes off 432 00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,160 and she just says, whose thumb were you talking about? Because clearly was 433 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,480 bigger than hers, right, So I thought that was very endearing for him 434 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,839 and just overall in general. I think for the first four episodes, he 435 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,599 for me was the highlight because what I loved is in the flashbacks, he 436 00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:22,960 seemed like such a good person and a caring person, caring dad, husband, 437 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,160 everything might seem like a little arrogant and cocky, but never seemed like 438 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,279 a bad person. But then in the Wasteland, he just feels like a 439 00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:33,039 bad person. I was surprised how just kind of mean spirit he was. 440 00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:36,559 He thought, Oh, he's just gonna be the badass outlaw character. But 441 00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:40,359 he beats up our main character who's a female multiple times, cuts her finger 442 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,920 off. He goes just to sell her, like if she doesn't say herself, 443 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,640 he just sold this innocent woman. So I that's why I appreciate it, 444 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,519 the moral gratness that I feel like his turn was warranted, and I 445 00:25:49,559 --> 00:25:53,839 actually appreciate how just downline, he's just a man on his mission, gonna 446 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:57,480 stop whatever. And I liked all the way they told the flashbacks with his 447 00:25:57,519 --> 00:26:00,720 wife. I thought that was a really fun toist of his wife being the 448 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,920 one to just kind of give the idea of like what if we just bomb 449 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,519 everything. So I thought they gave that character like quite the journey we went 450 00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:11,799 on with him in these eight episodes, and I h yeah, I loved 451 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,720 I thought super Mike says, I never expected Bolton Goggins would be that as 452 00:26:15,799 --> 00:26:18,000 racial vault boy. I didn't do that either, but now that made sense. 453 00:26:18,079 --> 00:26:21,200 We got those trainers, we're like, oh, how is he like 454 00:26:21,759 --> 00:26:25,359 here and there? And yeah, the show biz part was yeah, so 455 00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:29,039 his story, I really have no cons I thought it was very fantastic. 456 00:26:29,039 --> 00:26:32,119 And he just acted as ass off three hours in that chair every day for 457 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960 makeup, So good on him for doing that. That's that's a brutal role. 458 00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:40,599 I was constantly amazed at the nose, specifically on it and how they 459 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,559 pulled that off. I don't understand the logistics of it, but they nailed 460 00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:45,720 it. So I don't know how you have a sunken nose like that. 461 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:48,839 And it looks like when you bring back Red Skull, Marvel, hire this 462 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,599 team, hire this team, and Goggins bring Goggins back to do the roles. 463 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, no. I I thought the 464 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,519 opening was really great. I mean, I love any zombie, your post 465 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:06,720 apocalypt thing like that. Scene of like shit going down is always really fun, 466 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,079 and I think this one was there was like more bombs in this one 467 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,920 area than I expected there would need to do it. Yeah, there was 468 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,680 like fifteen. It was really like six. But still it's like one nuke 469 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,079 should be enough. I think, yeah, it was. It was devastating. 470 00:27:22,079 --> 00:27:23,720 But I love that it's at a birthday party because that's just such an 471 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:30,160 iconic part of the Fallout three opening is like going to your birthday party and 472 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,640 everyone's giving you presidents and stuff like that. So can I say presidents? 473 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,640 They're giving you presents? George here again, So I thought that that seemed 474 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,799 like a fun little shout out to the game in that way. But yeah, 475 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,079 I think it's it's such a fun character dynamic where you know, we 476 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:49,599 have multiple care now that we're full of spoilers here, Like we have some 477 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,480 characters that are clearly been like cryogenically frozen and that's why they were alive two 478 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:56,839 hundred years later. But for him to just be kept alive because he's a 479 00:27:56,839 --> 00:28:00,000 ghoul and he's just living on this radiation, So did like think about that, 480 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,920 like from where he was, is this good guy all he's lost everything 481 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,160 that's happened two hundred years of just being just the savage kind of ghoul or 482 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:11,839 like getting towards that point is a pretty like devastating kind of setup for the 483 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:18,519 character, but is also really engaging. The nose was the only CGI part, 484 00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:21,240 which makes sense because it was a damn good nose. But it looks 485 00:28:21,599 --> 00:28:23,039 very well done. They did a really good job with the CGI. Then, 486 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,519 yeah, like overall the whole package of it, it doesn't stand out 487 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:29,359 because we had that sometimes right where it's like real life and CG. Like 488 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,079 you can see the mix of it there. So I think they did a 489 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,119 really good job there. Yeah. But yeah, and then I think his 490 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,480 storyline because for the longest time and where are we going with this, Like 491 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,599 we're getting a lot of flashbacks of this. We spent a lot of screen 492 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,680 time with that, and you know, part of it is just like the 493 00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,599 humanize the character and in terms of showing you hanging out with his daughter kind 494 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,960 of meeting his wife or hanging out with her. But then eventually where we 495 00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:56,200 go with it, I think is is devastating in like a whole different kind 496 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:57,599 of way. And like the stuff he has in the final episode, the 497 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,359 flashback stuff there, I think is all really good. That's the part I 498 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:07,160 really enjoyed about. It just kills chills, the devastation of like finding out 499 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,160 what his wife is willing to do just because Voltech is so fucking evil. 500 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,599 So yeah, and I just love that idea of him like being a cowboy 501 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,799 in like as an actor on TV and then like becoming that in the Wasteland 502 00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:25,200 for real is just such such a fun turn. So yeah, I think 503 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,839 that was a really good choice to have just to kind of break up what 504 00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:32,400 we're seeing here in the variety you get in each episode of having these flashbacks 505 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,079 back to the the before times because you don't really get that in the games 506 00:29:36,079 --> 00:29:37,519 ever, So that was kind of a fun different dynamic. And I mean, 507 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,319 yeah, some of that's lore with Voltech, Like I could see that 508 00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,559 being a thing that people in the games get salty about, like the differences. 509 00:29:44,599 --> 00:29:47,920 I don't actually know if that's yeah, is that because I don't know 510 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,720 if that's the thing in the games of Voltech were like the ones that instigated 511 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,519 the dropping of the bombs, because that's like huge Lord details say that before 512 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:56,559 I just want to ask Jian, were you in the mind of like this 513 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,960 has to sync with the game, or are you fine with it can be 514 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:02,160 its own thing, just adapt in the game. Because in fact, there's 515 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920 some people one of my friends told me, oh, it takes place seven 516 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,880 years after Fall four, but I was like, I wasn't even thinking, 517 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,960 like it has to line up with what we've had before, So I didn't 518 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,680 have that monet it's I mean, it's it's there's a couple of angles too, 519 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:17,720 Like that's where if you pick a different setting and you're picking new vaults 520 00:30:17,759 --> 00:30:19,119 that we haven't been to before, I'm like, yeah, do whatever you 521 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,799 want, because you know, it's just a different place in the wasteland and 522 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,880 you can reference other things, or there's certain things that will kind of be 523 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,079 in common for most where you can kind of go and do your own thing, 524 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,720 and so it doesn't bother me one way or the other. And I'm 525 00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:34,039 not super lowerhead anyway, but yeah, when you come into like big vaultech 526 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,039 lower things like that, like that's crazy. That's a huge plot twist. 527 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:41,319 And once again, maybe that is the thing in the games, and I 528 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,119 just have never stumbled upon it because I'm not reading every computer terminal. I 529 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:48,640 guess that I'm hacking into but yeah, like that, I could see something 530 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,599 like that. I don't know, bothering lower heads, I suppose if it 531 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,079 differs from what they're used to. Yeah, people, For what I was 532 00:30:56,119 --> 00:31:02,039 reading, it seemed the other organizations were in that meeting. I think there 533 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:06,799 were certain timestamps that they weren't a fan of, and certain people in certain 534 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,920 leadership roles within those companies. I don't know. I'm not familiar with. 535 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,519 The only one I recognize was rob Co, which is like, you know, 536 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,519 we're a lot of the robots, and yeah, robots they can deliver 537 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,319 milk, and so that's like a classic place in the games. They'll go 538 00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:22,079 to like a rob Co facility and there's like high level robots that you gotta 539 00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:23,759 fight and you can get pull this stuff there. There's some people there, 540 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:29,680 I guess that remain I think prominent characters when it comes to like I guess 541 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,039 follow in New Vegas, and then when you have the events of following New 542 00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:33,759 Vegas, they're getting pissed off, I guess because New Vegas happens at this 543 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,400 point in time. But then you have these characters here at this time and 544 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,960 they Yeah, I'm not privy to it though. That's why I say, 545 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,240 you watch the show and just say this adapttion to the game, I feel 546 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:45,759 if you start to try and do the whole thing, because at least like 547 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,200 won't like this. But at least with Halo, it's not like they're being 548 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,000 like, well, this is a sequel to the game. It's like, 549 00:31:52,039 --> 00:31:55,000 well we're taking some ideas and adapting and change. You might like it. 550 00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:56,400 Yes, no, same thing as Last of Us, right. I think 551 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,440 if you have to try to bake oh, this is if they make a 552 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,160 fault five and they take this show into consideration, I think you get really 553 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,920 dicey there. And that's why I think it's like for your enjoyment, I 554 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,640 would say, if you're this fine view you definitely just watch it as it's 555 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,000 an adaptation not a continuation. I feel like that's an easier way to go, 556 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,200 you know. So I want to say before I forgot something and you're 557 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,920 bringing up the Gul's journey, That's what I love because you get some answers, 558 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,599 but still you don't really know, like, Kay, why is he 559 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920 alive? Does he just want to live the cowboy life? If this is 560 00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:28,519 just survival because you don't want to die. But it'say at this point he's 561 00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:30,960 been alive for I can't remember what he says, it's like one hundred and 562 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,559 twenty years or over there years. Well, that's why, and that's the 563 00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,279 thing where that's the tragic revealer. He's like, I've been waiting two and 564 00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:40,839 years just to ask this question, like where the fuck is my family? 565 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,559 And that's where it makes all the stuff in the past where Kay is doing 566 00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,680 these bad things. But at the same time, if you told me, 567 00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,559 like, hey, to find your family, you got to do X, 568 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,519 Y and Z, You're probably gonna do it. Right, there's a difference 569 00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:57,240 between him and Ella. But still you can now when I watch the show 570 00:32:57,319 --> 00:33:00,799 back go okay, he's doing a lot of things because if he eyes whatever 571 00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:02,279 happened to his family, he's never gonna know or find them. And that's 572 00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:06,559 intriguing because with the daughter, we see the nuke thing happen, and then 573 00:33:07,079 --> 00:33:08,200 it cuts to black, right, we don't see me get blown away, 574 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,000 and with the wife we don't also know. So is that implying now that 575 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,720 they are in that rich world, both of them, Like that's where I 576 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,039 will get agree with you don't where I think there's some things that end on 577 00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:20,680 it. Oh, I'm fine with it here of the story going, but 578 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,960 that is one where it's okay, I'd just assume his family was dead. 579 00:33:23,039 --> 00:33:25,920 She you know, who knows what having the wife, but the daughter especially 580 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,440 she was out there in the blast zone and look at him, right, 581 00:33:29,599 --> 00:33:32,440 So I did like that live to me, that made his story more tragic. 582 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,880 Of this guy's been alive for two hundred years, probably doing the worst 583 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,440 stuff ever, just to find out what happened to his family. And that 584 00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:42,720 is that. That's why I hope we do get a season two because I 585 00:33:43,119 --> 00:33:45,680 think we would get them. I'm very intrigued. Now is this daughter like 586 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,920 growing up? Is she a woman now? Because like obviously it's so. 587 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,440 I really like that dovetelling his story and it made everything mean a lot more 588 00:33:52,480 --> 00:34:00,079 with him. So yeah, his his introduction, God damn or the Graveyard 589 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:05,319 and every show, well, the Graveyard was the first. His first introduction 590 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,960 was great. Everything with him was fantastic. He's definitely my favorite character in 591 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,039 this show. But yeah, the Graveyard was super cool. I love that. 592 00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:15,519 That was great. Picks up the chicken and then but puts it down. 593 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:21,440 But yeah, the him just he knows the truth at this point in 594 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,800 retrospect. That makes the start of this episode, that first episode, the 595 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,440 start of the show, so much more potent because he knows what's going on 596 00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:31,119 and he just doesn't want that to happen, but here he is, and 597 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:35,000 that it happens. And even then, now that he knows the truth of 598 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,880 what they're trying to do, it's still like that look on his face when 599 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,320 you go back and watch it, it's just like, I can't believe I'm 600 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:44,519 seeing this. It shouldn't. I just can't believe it. You know, 601 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,719 there's some parts in entertainment where scenes can be dragged on for too long and 602 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,679 it feels like, okay, like checking your watch, this is going on 603 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,239 for ages. But this they actually made it slow mo when the bombs are 604 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,239 going off and he's on his horse and people are falling, and it didn't 605 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,119 it did not feel long enough. I just wanted more, Like it was 606 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:07,199 so crazy, it's just yeah, the neighbor, like punching the guy who 607 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,559 was just befriending there minutes ago, getting out of my get out of my 608 00:35:10,599 --> 00:35:15,480 little bunker area. Just it was crazy. But the Ghoul is just a 609 00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:19,280 character that I've really grown to like. And had they done a good job 610 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,360 with having characters that you dislike because they're doing certain shitty things, and some 611 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,679 of them more than others, like that Us you really do hate. But 612 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,679 the Ghoul, even though he's doing shitty things, I never really he felt 613 00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:35,039 more like that anti hero guy. But I never necessarily really hated him, 614 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,920 because when you see him going through these certain moments that he displays that humanity, 615 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,159 there's other times where he just really do feel sorry for him. And 616 00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:45,320 the flashbacks help that, of course, because you get to see that happier 617 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719 side that he has, and I feel like that side is still in there 618 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,719 and we're getting to that. We get to that at the end. The 619 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:59,360 other fucking fantastic shot I love is when it's in the finale episode and McLain 620 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,159 is talking to his daughter and then all of a sudden, it's just the 621 00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:07,079 one brotherhood guy. The night walks out. His head's gone, but he 622 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,360 clapses and it's just smoke and shadow in the hallway and you see a silhouette 623 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,119 of his hat and he just he's walking in and he's like mclaan or like, 624 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:20,639 oh my god, that was so cool, so cool I was, 625 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,239 I don't know, won't bring up again. But I was very excited for 626 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,360 com McLachlan to be in the show, and he was. He was not 627 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,360 on the show that much. He plays the dad Ella's dad or oh okay, 628 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,440 because I love comic Glachlin. He's on my shirt like those type of 629 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,679 actors, like, oh yeah, he's really cool almost like feels like he's 630 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,800 actually the nineties version of Olton Goggins where he was always in a lot and 631 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:44,440 didn't get enough credit. But yeah, he's in it for two episodes, 632 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,199 so I was and very minor too, Like the beginning is there see uh 633 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,639 what el what is Ella's real character name? I'm forgetting Lucy sees gets married 634 00:36:52,639 --> 00:36:55,599 and then he gets locked up in a cage, so not not too much 635 00:36:55,679 --> 00:36:59,400 happens for him, but yeah, it's kind of strange. Do you guys. 636 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:05,280 Do you guys feel satisfied with the ending of Cooper's story though, considering 637 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,719 that like he's looking for his family, he doesn't get an answer and then 638 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:15,639 it kind of just ends right there. Not satisfied, I get it depends, 639 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,960 Like it just feels like a weird like to not give him like really 640 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,000 a final moment in this, Like it just it feels like the start of 641 00:37:22,039 --> 00:37:24,880 like two Towers, where at the end of this like him and Lucy are 642 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,360 like, Okay, we're butted up. Now let's go on the next part 643 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,719 of this journey. Yeah, I think that's tough thing. If there's a 644 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,199 season too, I'm completely fine that because I think to me, his full 645 00:37:34,199 --> 00:37:38,119 circle moment was being a little less hardened and now he's gonna work with somebody. 646 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,280 At first he was telling the dog like, I don't want anything to 647 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,880 do with you. You're not my dog. But now it ends with him 648 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,039 walking with the dog. So to me, I am because, like I 649 00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:51,559 said, he sold Lucy those people to just be killed. Whatever happened with 650 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:52,960 right where now, I feel like he's starting to get a kinship. So 651 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,280 if there was a season one undone, no, but I think there was 652 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,480 enough Even if it was season one done. I think there is some tragic 653 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:06,239 about that character of this school for centuries, staying alive to try and find 654 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:07,559 what happened. The family never gets that answer. It feels like an old 655 00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:12,159 Western tail. So I was actually I'm actually fine with his story where it 656 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,079 is right now. So how do you This is something I realize in retrospect. 657 00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:21,119 How do you guys feel about the first time that he meets Maximus and 658 00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,760 it's just this whole crazy fight scene what not between pH Squen in Philly. 659 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,480 Yeah, and then at the very end here he's talking and bragging like I 660 00:38:29,559 --> 00:38:30,880 used to be one of you guys, and I know there's one flaw in 661 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,840 the armor, one shot in the guy's dead. Yeah, why did he 662 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,360 do that? Why didn't he do that to Maximus? At the start he 663 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,320 kept popping shots in his chest and like aiming randomly. Maybe he was out 664 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:49,119 of ammah, no that one. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but I just 665 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,920 thought, like a scene. Again, I don't know, unless it was 666 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,440 just in the hem of the battle he forgot that. I did like that 667 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,719 scene because that felt like a vat's moment. I'm not sure if you agreed 668 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,519 on that first shootout there at the Marketer were just the way they slowed it 669 00:39:00,559 --> 00:39:02,800 down, they had him turn and look at things. I felt like that 670 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:07,960 was like, okay, them trying to attribute that the best way they they 671 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,239 could. But now you're right here that you know, I'm just gonna say 672 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,599 that he uh forgot about it until and then he then he remembered it. 673 00:39:15,639 --> 00:39:17,280 But yeah, you're right, it's definitely if he knows the weakness. He 674 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,280 pop off on that power romer right away, and it didn't seem like in 675 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Philly he would hold back for any reason. What's whoever he was out to 676 00:39:24,039 --> 00:39:28,559 kill in that moment, So yeah, good call it, call it plot 677 00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:31,920 hole. Sorry, sorry to ruin it. No, that's okay, it's 678 00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:35,199 it is a cool scene though. I like when he says that guy just 679 00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:38,480 gets popped off. But is there anything flashback wise, like I know the 680 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,719 Google comp but anything specifically about his journey we want to tackle right now while 681 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:49,119 we're here on him? Not so much, I really I did really like 682 00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:51,800 I brought up and suppose, but I like that little story with the Ghul 683 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,079 that was kind of losing his way. That was, you know, starting 684 00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:57,440 to really his skin's fallen off and he's having a tough go and everything, 685 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:00,039 and you know, like they put him out of his misery. So I 686 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,639 enjoyed that. And I really liked when he got into that facility where he 687 00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:07,000 sold Lucy and just the amount of whatever that juicy he needs. He's just 688 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:08,159 like, oh yeah, going to and that's what I was gonna ask. 689 00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:10,679 Do you think it's one of these things that obviously he was about to die. 690 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,199 But do you think if you were to palmels on one day, like, 691 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,800 would that make you good for fifty days? Or do you think it's 692 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,800 something you have to have every day I go for the next five thousand years. 693 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,480 Well that's what I was wondering, because he still he's still like inhaled 694 00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:27,480 it again later on another episode. Yeah, clearly that wasn't the case. 695 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,199 He was just like kind of a waste. Then you know, you're you're 696 00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:32,400 you, You're abusing a lot of it. Then say, I don't know 697 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,599 what it is like, I don't know where he is going to get more. 698 00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:37,440 Obviously he had run out in this situation, but you'd seem like you 699 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,000 would want to savor that. But yeah, well they were Yeah, maybe 700 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,239 you feel like he couldn't carry it all, so you might as well just 701 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,440 suck back as much as he can. Yeah, he's gonna get over encumbered 702 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,599 if he carried all of it, so he just has to consume a bunch 703 00:40:50,639 --> 00:40:52,719 of it. He put a bunch of his hats, so at least he 704 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,280 at least he he definitely took them for the road. But yeah, I 705 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,519 just good for him though, when he gone there big Jack Botmaan, I 706 00:40:58,519 --> 00:41:00,000 felt good for him. That's like when you get loot from a good mission, 707 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,760 You're like, oh, yeah, this is gonna do me good for 708 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,159 a while. So mm hmm, what do you guys think about that? 709 00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:10,559 Ask Jerkey that he put the guy out of his misery. But I'd have 710 00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:13,639 to taste it to let you know if that was a good decision or not. 711 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,480 But you can't, like hey, in the Wasteland, you can't let 712 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,159 goods go bad, right, you got to use them. So vast Jurke, 713 00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:27,119 he's gonna get your by. I also really liked that scene when he 714 00:41:27,159 --> 00:41:30,320 went to that like family's house and then the dad and the son come home 715 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:36,440 from doing some like the metal detecting nick and the dad's like not sure where 716 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,280 his daughter is. That makes that might be just be eating his daughter in 717 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,960 that moment, but then you have to just shoot the kid. At the 718 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,159 end of the scene, he justifies it by saying that he doesn't think he's 719 00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:47,719 gonna, you know, let him go or not, you know, write 720 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,440 him out of that kind of thing. But I uh, man, the 721 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,880 brutality of that. He just uh, he's just completely savage guy, which 722 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,599 to me is very fitting for the world to fallout because people are just awful 723 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,039 in this world and I've definitely known a play through or too where I'm just 724 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:06,519 similarly just as evil or just slay everyone like for no reason whatsoever. So 725 00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:08,760 it felt felt true to the games in that way and have a true evil 726 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,239 character they did. I was surprised that he seemedly killed the guy, though 727 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,719 I thought he would maybe just shoulder knee capt him. So that's something where 728 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,280 our character maybe is loosened up a little bit, but he's still gonna murder 729 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:22,360 people. So I wasn't sure how to feel about, but that that to 730 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,760 me fits for what fault, Like you said, fall it is. It's 731 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,039 always these type of situations where you meet characters, you never know what's gonna 732 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:31,199 happen. You can have to end up murdering somebody. So I don't know 733 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:36,400 if he had to murder them there, but it's there's a press pressent for 734 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:42,199 it, so let's talk about some vaulters. Let's talk about Lucy there. 735 00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:44,960 So that's how we get the Wolden gong and sing and then we go down. 736 00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:49,119 Most of episode one is about they're in Vault thirty three, right, 737 00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:52,480 that's the one they are and thirty yes, yeah or yeah, thirty three 738 00:42:52,519 --> 00:42:55,840 is their vault, thirty two married to someone from vault thirty two and her 739 00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,519 dad's from thirty one, and then they do go to vault it was four 740 00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:01,199 or five, right, that will get to that. It's like kind of 741 00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:04,320 the weird vaults. I forget the yeah, I for the number, but 742 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,239 yeah, I think vaults for vault four. So yeah, we meet them, 743 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,440 you kind of get the life. That's where you're getting a lot of 744 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,760 the like, hey, this is the you know the vaults, and this 745 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,360 is your life and you have to do and everyone has like a certain type 746 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,039 of I guess intellect. Not to make it sound like they're dumb, but 747 00:43:17,079 --> 00:43:22,000 they're just on a they're all their personality traits are all very similar, right, 748 00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:24,119 they are different in their own ways, but they live a certain lifestyle. 749 00:43:24,519 --> 00:43:28,440 It's very catered and everything. And the plan is you get to see 750 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,159 some of the system where okay, they marry other vaults because eventually, if 751 00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:34,280 you're in the same vault with a bunch of people, you will start meeting 752 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,239 other people, whether they're cousins or siblings. So you can't be doing that. 753 00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:39,159 So you kind of have to mix the pools up. She's gonna get 754 00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:43,880 married to this guy. They do get married. She gets in a room 755 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,000 and he just takes his clothes off. But then the finale of this is 756 00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:49,920 and that's where they at least double down as far as giving you a big 757 00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:54,159 ending. Our revealed that these are raiders that have taken over Vault thirty two 758 00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,280 and they are just there to like rate and pillage the whole thirty where it 759 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,159 doesn't go that rail. Lots of people die and then just a lot of 760 00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,119 things do happen in the first two episodes, But what do you guys think 761 00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:09,039 about We'll get to many. But Lucy's a character is like done you said, 762 00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:13,199 she is kind of the She of course has a personality, but I 763 00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:15,679 feel that the first few episodes especially, she is like acting as like a 764 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,280 Conduin character much like we have where it's like, okay, you can put 765 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,800 some of your you know what you would doisms in here, because she's kind 766 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,079 of a not a clean slate, but the closest you could do for a 767 00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:29,199 TV show. Yeah, I mean, I think generally, like in the 768 00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,360 in the Vaults, like everyone's just very overly chipper to like a fake degree 769 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,960 and like Vaultech is trying to orchestrate just like the perfect society in that way 770 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:44,840 and keep everything hyper positive, and especially when you find out that like the 771 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,679 all the all the overseers in these vaults in particular are all part of this 772 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,440 like pretty much cohesive company, but more of like it's more of like a 773 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,800 cult over anything. So I think it makes sense that everyone kind of bleeds 774 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,559 together and is similar in that way. But I think it is fun to 775 00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:04,679 watch her her uh break open as it goes along and see more of what 776 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,639 the wasteland's like, but then still brings like her very just like happy go 777 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,440 lucky things. Everything can just be resolved in a you know, peaceful way, 778 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,840 but even just little things like when she first leaves and she just sees 779 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,039 the tumbleweed and like blows her mind, like he doesn't understand like what she's 780 00:45:19,079 --> 00:45:22,320 seen there. But yeah, I just I honestly, I was so impressed 781 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:27,199 by the visuals of the Vault, Like they just made these massive sets and 782 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,719 they felt very authentic, and so I was very happy to see that because 783 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,239 it could have just been like little camera angles in like the little hallways that 784 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,639 they made or something. But I love that they had this whole like farm 785 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:43,360 area with this fake like Truman Show level wall paper going on. I really 786 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,440 liked all the all the stuff that we got in the vaults there and just 787 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,599 seeing these different dynamics that she was like banging her cousin. But then she's 788 00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,360 like, Okay, we can't do this anymore, like this is not sustainard 789 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,719 for long term. Yeah. No, I really enjoyed all the all the 790 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,480 vault stuff. I mean, she wasn't there for too long, but I 791 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,639 mean when she was, I felt like that kind of setup of she feels 792 00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:07,400 like she's done all these extra curriculars, she's like checked all these boxes that 793 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,960 she needs to, feels like a video game protagonist character, and that was 794 00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:14,519 kind of just like a master of all these different things. She's ready to 795 00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:16,840 get hitched up and do the next phase of her life with this other I 796 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,639 forget the name of the other girl, like her blonde friend who is just 797 00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:22,159 about to have a symphony. Yeah, I think you're right. I think 798 00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:25,920 Steph Stephanie something like that. So yeah, I think for all the Vault 799 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,559 stuff that she's involved in, I think it was it was really enjoyable. 800 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:37,119 M M. Yeah, I think it's just so cool to see them add 801 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:43,559 so much detail to all this practical effects and just the sceneries and whatnot. 802 00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:45,320 It was really really neat, and I think, yeah, the attention to 803 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:51,119 detail really really pays off her character just kind of like roaming through here and 804 00:46:51,199 --> 00:46:54,840 just kind of like narrating us through the beginning parts of just life down there 805 00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,519 is interesting. I found it pretty engaging, and I thought that, yeah, 806 00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:04,559 she's basically top tier of her class. She's got her hand on everything, 807 00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:09,840 and I think she did a great job of portraying that innocent character when 808 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,559 they dealt with the Raiders. I just thought it was kind of funny that 809 00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:21,719 the raiders didn't enact on their plan immediately enjoy the well they got. We 810 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:27,159 got to let our boy have his fun with our with our main girl here, 811 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,880 and as soon as he's done, that's when the Yeah, as soon 812 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,800 as he's done, that's when the attack started. But yeah, it was 813 00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,960 I I didn't know that there were three vaults and how it was kind of 814 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,280 like intertwined together. And then when they're kind of like explaining, okay, 815 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,960 well we have we have this breeding pool we do where people from other vaults 816 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,280 come in and I thought all thought that, Okay, that's kind of interesting, 817 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,840 And it's just one of those things where you go back after watching the 818 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,800 show and I feel like your second rewatch, you're gonna pick up on so 819 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,039 much more, not just on things in the background, but just the way 820 00:47:57,079 --> 00:48:00,000 that they're talking and the way that they're kind of alluding to certain things. 821 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:04,840 I think you're going to really pick up on a lot more stuff. Yeah, 822 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:09,400 I really like the idea of these three different vaults being connected together, 823 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:13,599 because I don't recall that ever happening in the game many of the games I've 824 00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:16,079 played where you've had two or more vaults connected in that way. But I 825 00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:22,199 think it makes perfect sense for this particular sect of them where they're obviously all 826 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,719 these overseers are kind of running everything and planning everything out like chess pieces almost, 827 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,679 so it kind of makes sense that it gives them more freedom in that 828 00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,639 way. I do want to rewatch that sequence because I'm wondering now, like 829 00:48:31,679 --> 00:48:37,159 how much of that raider sequence was like set up by Vaultech in particular, 830 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,800 like wanting it to happen, or wanting the blight and other deaths to happen 831 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,199 in Vault thirty two, like purpose please, so they could do this whole 832 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,880 plan of splitting things up. I don't know, it seems like it was 833 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:51,760 more like they were dealing with the cards, yeah, playing with the cards 834 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,599 they were dealt, and kind of came up with this idea afterwards to split 835 00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:58,079 the people up into these different vaults, which is also like kind of a 836 00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:01,440 not necessarily cliffhangary, but that just feels like there's so much room to play 837 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,519 with these different groups of characters playing split up, and then we kind of 838 00:49:05,559 --> 00:49:09,079 just don't really get to do that in this season. But it's like I 839 00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:14,000 did not expect to spend as much time as we did inside that vault. 840 00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,119 In particular, I thought after Lucy was gone, like we wouldn't see it 841 00:49:16,159 --> 00:49:20,599 until she comes back later on. So I think it was surprisingly It's still 842 00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:22,320 fun even though there wasn't a ton of screen time given to it, and 843 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,320 I was happy about that because I thought it was like the right amount of 844 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,159 screen time where unless our main characters are there, because I liked her brother 845 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:31,719 enough, but I don't think there was enough for me to fall in love 846 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,480 with him. But that's where at the same time, he was mostly just 847 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,360 like discovering things. Yeah, he didn't actually really get to do much on 848 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,119 his own. His was the exposition storyline, which was fine because I think 849 00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:45,639 you need especially when you're doing the whole that's the storyline, right, His 850 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,079 voltech is shady, These people are shady. My dad's shady. If that 851 00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,719 storyline's not in here, you don't see any of that. So even if 852 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,079 it was an excuse to see the vault, people be very odd, like 853 00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:59,000 the one lady right, she's pregnant, her husband dies, but the guy 854 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,159 is wearing her husband's close so she starts calling him chat and all like. 855 00:50:02,199 --> 00:50:06,920 It's like again the weird stuff that I was enjoying there, but I think 856 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,400 it was the right amount of there. And then we got to see another 857 00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:14,480 vault, which was even more weird. But then I just love the kind 858 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,119 of resolution. I could see some people not enjoying that where there's an episode 859 00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:22,039 I can't remember, episode it's like six or seven where Lucia and Maximus they 860 00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:27,039 get taken into this other vault and their label tests like the whole episodes to 861 00:50:27,039 --> 00:50:30,519 make you think something really bad's gonna happen, and all is is they just 862 00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:35,400 tell Lucy she has to go out. I did enjoy the joke where Maximus 863 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,880 sees her and thinks, all hell is gonna break loose, and I thought 864 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,159 he was gonna kill all these people in the vault. When he got that 865 00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:42,119 power suit, it was like, oh no, the power I was like, 866 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,039 it's over. But I appreciated you go all the way because that is 867 00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,039 a funny joke. But if you are gonna make him the main love of 868 00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:52,400 interest as like the second third lead character, it would be maybe tough to 869 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,239 come back from that. But even that vallt I liked that they had a 870 00:50:54,280 --> 00:51:00,440 weird way of like they were semi non violent, you know, in a 871 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,159 way like the way they released her, And they made some overtures but nothing 872 00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:06,360 too serious, and they're fine with, hey, you got to go. 873 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,039 He broke the rules. So I like seeing the different vaults, and I 874 00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:12,639 wonder, I guess we still have her brother down there. He's locked in 875 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,960 thirty one right now, so I don't know what's gonna happen there, but 876 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,880 I'm curious to see. We must go back to the vaults somehow, and 877 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,880 I don't know where her and the Ghoul are going. Is it that way 878 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,800 or is it we got to go back to the vault. So I'm curiously 879 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,559 if there is a second season, how they would work that in. So, 880 00:51:28,679 --> 00:51:30,519 yeah, because I can't imagine she'll want to go live there anymore after 881 00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:35,320 all reveals that have happened, But she does still have her brother there and 882 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,239 other friends that I'm sure she'll want to reconnect with and stay in touch with, 883 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,119 which I know how viable that is to keep opening these vault doors over 884 00:51:44,159 --> 00:51:47,039 and over again. But yeah, it just even may worry for their safety, 885 00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:50,239 right, like, hey, this is what's going on, you know, 886 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,800 And maybe that's how her brother gets out if she's gonna go there. 887 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,199 No one's asking about her brother because they just assumed the split. Maybe someone 888 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,119 can lie and say, oh, he did get sent to thirty two, 889 00:51:58,119 --> 00:52:00,880 and thirty two just assumes he's over there, right, And I thought that 890 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,559 was an interesting dynamic too, of that's how you found the splits and uh, 891 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,800 yeah, Betty always seemed a little shady, so that's true. Yeah, 892 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,079 let's take her next sad break and then we'll probably tell what's more, 893 00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:15,079 stuff will be right back and we're back. Sorry too, You didn't touch 894 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:19,400 upon Lucy completely yet, so is there anything more specific you want to talk 895 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:24,079 about. I don't think I have anything. Well. I mean when she 896 00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:28,280 gets out of the vault, I like how her Oki dookie kind of persona 897 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,880 is just kind of like helping her, helping her push through all the hell 898 00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:35,800 that she's going through. But yeah, her her character really really grows. 899 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,199 And I feel like at the end scene when she's pointing that gun at her 900 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,920 dad, it's totally believable and I felt like, Okay, she's totally gonna 901 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,880 blow his brains out because she's gone through so much shit. And yeah, 902 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:52,480 when she's looking at that radioactive water and her pit boys just like like making 903 00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:54,880 all the staticy noises and it's like, Oh, she gonna drink because she 904 00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:00,360 does. It's ah, she she just she's She's a really really incredible protagonist. 905 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:06,119 And I was really really enjoying her her tribulations and everything she was going 906 00:53:06,199 --> 00:53:10,480 through. And I will say I think that for having no boot on her 907 00:53:10,519 --> 00:53:15,440 foot, her foot looked pretty good going through the wasteland after all that trekking 908 00:53:15,519 --> 00:53:19,639 along, I saw one scene or her foot came up. I was like, 909 00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,440 man, that soul on her foot is looking like mint condition. I 910 00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:28,199 don't know about that. She was taking out of it. One one scene 911 00:53:28,599 --> 00:53:32,519 I really liked was the super Duper Mart sequence, which is just a very 912 00:53:34,119 --> 00:53:37,239 I feel like you always come across a super Duper Mart like early on in 913 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:42,000 a Fallout game, which was just like a fun battle set piece. But 914 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:45,760 I really liked that whole sequence, just one showing up there and like all 915 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,119 these ghouls locked up in these fridges and kind of the the I don't know, 916 00:53:50,159 --> 00:53:52,960 just mystery of what's going on there. And then I just thought that 917 00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,760 robot was so funny. I forget what if it had a name or what 918 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,280 you would call it, but the robot that like took her in was gonna 919 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,519 do this autopsy, but the way he was talking about it was just like 920 00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:04,920 very hyper positive. But I thought it was a good action sequence when she 921 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,199 destroyed it and took took over and bought those two bums on the couch to 922 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,320 open up the cages and whatnot. And then obviously that's when Goggins came in 923 00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:16,559 and did the rest of it. But I just thought that was that was 924 00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:21,000 a great moment for her to kind of be this valiant hero. So I 925 00:54:21,039 --> 00:54:22,920 don't know she was, she was a she just became more and more badass 926 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:28,159 as it went on and she realized how vicious the world is out there. 927 00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:35,440 Mister Maximus, how to don't let me sorry? How did you feel about 928 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,119 that? Because I feel like when we had talked on a call duty call, 929 00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:39,079 You're like, I wasn't sure I was feeling about that one. So 930 00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:42,159 how did it end up going for you? Near the end? It's that's 931 00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:46,559 the Brotherhood of Steel. He is set up in an interesting way because he 932 00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:49,800 sent on a mission, but we don't really know if we can trust him 933 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,719 because he may have lied and hurt some peeple. Again in the mission we 934 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,320 learned some things go all the way, but definitely to me is like if 935 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,320 they did start as Fort wakens with Finn, but Finn was like a really 936 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,320 pathetic care That's exactly how I felt. Yeah, very pathetic. Yeah. 937 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,880 I think he was definitely my least favorite of the trio. I guess, 938 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,679 if you want to put it that way, when it was all said down, 939 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,639 I have never really found the Brotherhood of Steal that interesting in the games, 940 00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:20,000 to be honest, So I think just in general, getting any of 941 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,440 those scenes wasn't super captivating him by the end, or as we got deeper 942 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:28,679 and it was interesting to see the way their society is set up and their 943 00:55:28,679 --> 00:55:32,920 belief system. And I did enjoy it to some extent, but I don't 944 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,719 know as a character, I just found he was a bit too flat for 945 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,719 most of the show, and there were certain moments where he's shine like there 946 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,559 I don't know some of the comedy around him, like being in the armor 947 00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:46,079 and then like getting that new recruit guy. I forget what the term was, 948 00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:52,199 and they like brands him just like that whole sequence was Yeah, Like 949 00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,440 I like that. Like the voice that he had with like the you know, 950 00:55:54,639 --> 00:55:59,199 very low voice, was very funny. I was a little nice about 951 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,880 him, say some nice about him. No so bad about him now. 952 00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:06,559 Yeah, I loved it when he was in Vault four and it was just 953 00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:08,360 like getting so used to that cozy life and yeah, you kind of are 954 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,679 thinking like, oh, what is this. They're gonna trap him or something. 955 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,639 I thought like, oh, they're gonna lock that door behind him, 956 00:56:13,639 --> 00:56:15,239 but no, they were actually just being kind and I just love that he 957 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,920 was like you ever heard of oysters before? And he's just like watching TV 958 00:56:20,159 --> 00:56:22,880 and we just watching on TV. It's just like a waterfall. Yeah, 959 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,000 that's the whole show. It's just a waterfall, but he's just loving it. 960 00:56:25,679 --> 00:56:29,880 He's in his robe, he's in his slippers. So I found some 961 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,519 of that stuff to be pretty funny as well. So I think you definitely 962 00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:35,039 had his moments, but for the most part, just I don't know, 963 00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:37,840 it wasn't the most captivating character to me. Yeah, it's funny. At 964 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,960 first, I was hundered, like cause I think be fault before I did 965 00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:44,880 pick the Brotherhood of Steels in my faction with But I remember, I think 966 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,719 I just did that just because they had more perks for the power armor, 967 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,679 and I was like, I need that power armor. So I was happy 968 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,960 we didn't spend much time there. I was not intrigued by the brother It's 969 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,039 not like the Vault where it's like, oh, I think we've spent the 970 00:56:58,119 --> 00:57:00,719 right amount. I still won't see the Vaults. I did not need, 971 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,599 like, let's check in on the Brotherhood of Steel side characters that he was 972 00:57:02,639 --> 00:57:07,000 around. I was happy that they were just kind of this outside force that 973 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,039 were they seem more impending that way of you gotta do this or they're gonna 974 00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:12,960 come get you. If they find out oout this, you're screwed. Like 975 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,239 it was always kind of reminder of if they ever are around and it's not 976 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,840 going their way, things could get really bad, which they did end up 977 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,880 getting really bad. But no, like I said, it reminded me of 978 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,360 Finn, but I end up liking that he was this kind of unlucky but 979 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:35,119 at times lucky not lovable loser like I like that at the end he kind 980 00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:37,559 of became like a level loser and things just kind of keep happening, like 981 00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,239 now he's gonna be like a captain or general the Brotherhood of Steel for something 982 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,639 he didn't do, and he wants to get out of there. He want 983 00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:46,239 before he wanted to be on that mission b steal a couple of days out 984 00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:49,320 on the waistline means when other people he goes, no, this is not 985 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,360 what I want to be. It ends the exact same way as Force wakens 986 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,960 too, right where he gets knocked out and ray Aka like Lucy's saying goodbye, 987 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,480 I'm gonna find you, Like it's the same story, but this is 988 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,800 like the pathetic version. Even when he was in the vault, like you 989 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:05,679 said, the Waterfall, I enjoyed that of for that episode, he completely 990 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,199 flipped like no, I'm good here. I want to stay. They got 991 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,599 caveat that's a warm shower. Before he was against sex and he's like, 992 00:58:12,639 --> 00:58:15,960 no, let's let's have sex. Like he was completely flipped. So I 993 00:58:15,039 --> 00:58:19,639 kind of liked that. They almost every episode kind of showed like, ah, 994 00:58:19,719 --> 00:58:22,360 he's a bit of a loser, and not like a cool loser, 995 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,000 like he's just a loser, but he's kind of lost. I think I 996 00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:31,320 didn't buy because what I was very what he was actually for the first episodes 997 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:35,480 other than I guess Goggins, but I was most intrigued by him because they 998 00:58:35,519 --> 00:58:38,280 wanted him to be likable. But he kept doing these things like at that 999 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:44,239 point we thought, oh, he purposely got his like other soldiers' friends like 1000 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:45,599 herd or infected so they couldn't go out. So I'm like, well, 1001 00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,840 that's a shady thing. He killed Tituus, who yeah, I was an 1002 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,360 asshole, but still like he killed them. I don't know if that was 1003 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,400 fully deserved. He kept doing these things. I was like deserved. I 1004 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,480 was deserved. Titus is sending him into the cave to like go check it 1005 00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:01,159 out, go see what's going on. Then he like turns and wasn't he 1006 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,960 the Tennis was like fuck fuck fuck like running away too like he did. 1007 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,199 But also for the point Tityus was like just shoot it, like like Max's 1008 00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:12,199 whole time had a gun, just sat there. It's like watching, and 1009 00:59:12,239 --> 00:59:15,480 that to me was great, like video game win Tys is running away like 1010 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,039 fuck fuck I felt that happens. That's when we're called. You're like, 1011 00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:20,280 oh fuck, man, I can't ping this or anything like, yeah, 1012 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,840 I think those are called the yawgoy. That's a very click classic kind of 1013 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:28,119 early high level enemy all encounter okay often yeah, and that felt like a 1014 00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:30,760 fun video game out so okay, it's debatable, but still he could just 1015 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:32,039 left him there. He didn't have to fall out, just kill the man. 1016 00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:36,360 So he was just doing multiple things that were like this is really shitty. 1017 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,239 So my point is, I don't know if I fully bought where he 1018 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,599 She says, come back to my vault. I love you, not lovely 1019 00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:45,760 Tis, but it's this whole like you know, I'm into your speech. 1020 00:59:45,079 --> 00:59:49,320 And then he reveals these things he's done, but she goes, oh, 1021 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,920 well, I I threw acid in an innocent man's face day. She did 1022 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,440 that because these people kid after him. She thought her life was at stake 1023 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,960 where I felt she kind of just easily forgave, and I thought it was 1024 01:00:00,119 --> 01:00:01,960 a nothing sort of point. I'm not saying we needed a whole storyline of 1025 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,679 her being mad at him, but I thought that was kind of clunky, 1026 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,000 the turning him into now he's like gonna be a good guy, because they 1027 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:12,679 made him so making some errors at the beginning. So I think there was 1028 01:00:12,679 --> 01:00:15,440 some issues I had with the writing of the middle portion of the character, 1029 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:20,559 but I did like that certain things, and I liked that also too. 1030 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,199 He had like a military meahead thing where to his credit when they had that 1031 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,480 standoff, I really liked where he lives about having the gun and she's like, 1032 01:00:27,519 --> 01:00:30,000 we are armed and you know, and then she goes, well they 1033 01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:31,239 aren't arm, and he's like, they're lying. So it's like, even 1034 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,800 though he's kind of a goof, he has some military training and it kicks 1035 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,320 in at certain points where it goes, okay, no, this is the 1036 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,480 situation. So it's like a book smart versus street smart sort of thing. 1037 01:00:40,599 --> 01:00:44,239 So I ended up being very intrigued by him, and I liked, like 1038 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,519 I said, the last shot of the find with that dead body and now 1039 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:50,719 he is going to be this top leading guy in the steel and that has 1040 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,000 to be even worse now because now are on, you'll be leading stuff. 1041 01:00:53,039 --> 01:00:57,599 So I ended up really liking that character, which at first like, Okay, 1042 01:00:57,599 --> 01:01:00,599 why is this character kind of here bumps in the loop he has this 1043 01:01:00,719 --> 01:01:04,920 problem. I liked his few ventures we got with his side, like yeah, 1044 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,000 little the trainer guy or apprentice guy, and I like that he just 1045 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:12,639 fully turned on Yeah fatty as he turned on and the second found out took 1046 01:01:12,639 --> 01:01:15,159 the power corps left and from his foot. Oh god, oh my god. 1047 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:20,000 Yeah, not not looking too good. But how do you feel about 1048 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,280 Maximus? I feel like I feel like, as judging, you just said 1049 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,400 Titus deserved it. This is like this is how I picture Taylor would be 1050 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,400 in the waistline, you know, like Maximus, this is this is Taylor. 1051 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,320 There are also certain situations you just know you gotta do this. You 1052 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,920 know, I wasn't a fan of him at the start. It took a 1053 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,159 while for him to grow on me as a character. There are certain moments 1054 01:01:38,159 --> 01:01:42,880 that I did enjoy, but yeah, I just felt like he was just 1055 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,519 making so many stupid decisions at the start. But you can attribute it to 1056 01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:49,199 his lack of experience out there in the field. I mean, he was 1057 01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:53,199 living in Sandy Shores, which is this haven, and then it turned into 1058 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,280 him just being a squire right for the Brotherhood to steal. And so he 1059 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,840 hasn't had a lot of immersion in the world until he goes out there as 1060 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,159 this squire to Titus, I guess. So yeah, I thought, yeah, 1061 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,280 he became more interesting, but I was getting frustrated with his stupid decisions 1062 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,639 that he was making. I didn't like that he would leave the armor alone 1063 01:02:13,679 --> 01:02:16,360 all the time. That really bothered me. H, people are gonna people 1064 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:22,239 are gonna rate it. But I like that he was able to teach himself 1065 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,400 learn And yet when he was fighting off those raiders at the start, when 1066 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,719 they were trying to break his armor down, he has his hand in backwards 1067 01:02:28,719 --> 01:02:31,119 inside the suit and then he like crushes the guy's skull. That was pretty 1068 01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:37,039 cool. So he grows on you as a character, and I'm happy about 1069 01:02:37,119 --> 01:02:39,760 that. And yeah, he's got this relationship growing with Lucy as well. 1070 01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:45,719 But I think the the fin is a great example. That's exactly how I 1071 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:52,239 was kind of feeling. But he's just much more like a few tears below 1072 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,199 below fin I'd say a few. I don't think this guy would ever become 1073 01:02:55,239 --> 01:03:00,280 a Jedi. You do have that sort of fortitude I did. Its like 1074 01:03:00,599 --> 01:03:07,639 one lower element with that character is that to him the bombs fell when he 1075 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,519 was a kid, which at first, when you first see that, you're 1076 01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:15,800 like wow, like the brother still like really indoctrinating you into this and just 1077 01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,960 like completely falsifying what has happened in this place and like really kind of brainwashing 1078 01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:24,559 him in that way. But then to have the reveal later on that the 1079 01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:29,320 bomb did fall at Sandy Shores, uh, when he was a kid, 1080 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,440 and that part of it was real, and they Brotherhood Steel just kind of 1081 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:36,320 took that information and used it to like twist this reality for him in this 1082 01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,920 backstory, which I think lens to like understand why he is kind of a 1083 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:45,559 dufist at times. Like obviously if like they've haven't corrected him on that information, 1084 01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:49,119 Like what other stuff are they specifically teaching him, Like what kind of 1085 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,280 I don't know, teachings are they giving them other than just like indoctrinating about 1086 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:57,119 Brotherhood of Steel, teaching them basic combat stuff and then sending them out to 1087 01:03:57,159 --> 01:04:00,480 do like very specific emissions like it kind of makes you feel for him a 1088 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,760 bit more in that way, and it is a tragic backstory for him as 1089 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,480 well. So I really liked all this stuff around Sandy Shores. I thought 1090 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:11,400 that was a really cool bit of story that we got there, which once 1091 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:16,159 again just shows like the brutality of Voltech as a as a company. But 1092 01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:20,159 I think it also was cool that it tied in his backstory connected to Lucy's 1093 01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:24,480 backstory, and that she was there at some point too, which is kind 1094 01:04:24,519 --> 01:04:27,920 of you wonder if they ever bumped into each other as kids or something potentially, 1095 01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,719 I don't know if the ages would work for that, but really cool 1096 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:39,320 stuff all around his uh this is such upon his his squire Fattius. You 1097 01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:41,920 hate him at the start, and then you come to kind of like him 1098 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,400 a little bit, but then you hate him again and he's talking about it 1099 01:04:44,519 --> 01:04:48,119 he used to be a shitter on like a compost farm, and that's why 1100 01:04:48,119 --> 01:04:55,119 he's kind of like a bigger guy this weird story. But yeah, he's 1101 01:04:55,239 --> 01:05:01,519 just what a weird fucking job. But yeah, that his foot got sucked 1102 01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:05,039 up and the dog is trying to like eat his foot and all that, 1103 01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:08,639 and so he puts the dog on the cooler. But yeah, he when 1104 01:05:08,639 --> 01:05:13,519 he trusts the the like snakeskin oil guy. I think that's what the doctor 1105 01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:18,599 who was trying to kill himself like a moment, Yeah, he get interested 1106 01:05:18,599 --> 01:05:23,119 the doctors. He has a rifle at his foot and he's a rifle up 1107 01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:26,480 of his mouth and he's trying to shoot it with his foot and it doesn't 1108 01:05:26,519 --> 01:05:30,039 happen. So it's like, oh my gosh. But speaking to feet, 1109 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:33,960 the scientist's foot like in that little shoe thing they put on him, which 1110 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,599 is just like a saw trap that like digs into his leg a bit more. 1111 01:05:39,199 --> 01:05:42,480 That was savage. I was like, what are they gonna do here? 1112 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,159 And then say, oh, that's that's I don't think I've seen anything 1113 01:05:45,159 --> 01:05:46,840 this r rated in a while, so it kind of shocked me at times 1114 01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,519 to just see some of these heads getting crushed and feet and likely Yeah, 1115 01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:57,679 but says like I read people talking about how ghouls don't regenerate like he did, 1116 01:05:58,039 --> 01:06:01,519 because you'd see howards would finger would have regenerated, but it didn't. 1117 01:06:01,599 --> 01:06:05,559 So people are speculating, Oh, I wrote this down, that he's not 1118 01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:12,039 a ghoul, that he is something else. I wrote it down he is 1119 01:06:12,199 --> 01:06:20,000 a a supermutant, and the doc gave something called like a forced evolutionary virus, 1120 01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:24,800 which is something the games. So fuck, that's cool. No, 1121 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,760 I like that bit of Lord because I mean the way I've always taken it 1122 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:33,880 is that gules are more from like exposure to radiation, like over long periods 1123 01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:35,960 of time, and it kind of turns the end of that. And I 1124 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:40,679 don't think that's ever happened in the game where someone just like it's not like 1125 01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:42,880 a vampire curse or something, you know, just get like, you know, 1126 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,559 a shot of it and now you're a ghoul. And now that I 1127 01:06:45,559 --> 01:06:47,400 think of it, like, I can't recall ever seeing like the origins of 1128 01:06:47,719 --> 01:06:51,000 someone being turned into a super mutant. Now obviously it doesn't look like a 1129 01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:55,920 super mutant yet, but maybe that transformation takes time where you'll turn into this 1130 01:06:56,039 --> 01:06:59,639 huge guy. So that would be cool because I was expecting that a couple 1131 01:06:59,639 --> 01:07:03,239 of different points when there was like there was that one uh, I think 1132 01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:09,000 it was Lucy's brother was like watching something on a screen, or actually I 1133 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,440 think it was Lucy when she was in that like cryo room and she was 1134 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,239 watching some footage of something and there was like some doctors freaking out about something 1135 01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,280 busting through a wall, and I thought that was gonna be a super mutant 1136 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,760 or something ended up being some other irradiated creature. But yeah, I don't 1137 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,519 think we saw a super mute and all, and they were pretty classics, 1138 01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:28,079 so that would be a big fun thing to see in season two. I 1139 01:07:28,159 --> 01:07:30,559 speaking of that in that scene, I mean, I love Fred Armison all 1140 01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:33,880 the time, and in this he's very much like Fred Armison being Fred Armison. 1141 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,960 But I thought it was hilarious. And he's like listening to this music 1142 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,480 which just sounds like garbage, and he's like, well, people don't like 1143 01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,440 the sound of this. Hey, it's like, oh you gotta listen for 1144 01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,559 like the mid range? Yeah right there, uh yeah right, there's oh 1145 01:07:45,639 --> 01:07:48,360 yeah, how do people love that? Like that? The whole sequence is 1146 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,639 cracking me up. I loved it, Like Fred Armiston never been a fault 1147 01:07:51,639 --> 01:07:58,239 thing because he is like Taylor May no pun intent for this at the universe, 1148 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,719 like he like I look at Fred Armison and then the roles he's done. 1149 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:06,239 He just screams fallout characters like this, and he's very like he's a 1150 01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,320 musician too, So I thought it was funny that he had some music related 1151 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,400 dialogue. It was it was perfect. And that's one of those ones like 1152 01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,039 sometimes he gets slowed because there's not really too many big names in here, 1153 01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:18,399 right, so it's like and the biggest one is I guess Colin maclauchlin, 1154 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:23,600 but then Wilton Godland's cover makeup. So it's just like that's a cameo that 1155 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,319 fits in this world. It's like you could even just believe he's still just 1156 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:30,319 Fred Armizon. That happened, like to be in the apocalypse, Like, 1157 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,680 yeah, I was happy with that cameo. It was good. My last 1158 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,560 one was here. What do you guys think about We talked about a little 1159 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,720 bit about the reveal of yeah, Voltech being the ones they kind of were 1160 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,039 debating about how to get people in the vaults, all these things about what 1161 01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:49,399 should they do with the future, and their answer was, well, why 1162 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,079 don't you know, how do you sell someone on You might get nuked, 1163 01:08:53,079 --> 01:08:57,079 you might not get nuked, but we just nuke it and kind of end 1164 01:08:57,199 --> 01:08:59,560 the war, right, And that's the way where the ideas were gonna nukee 1165 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,479 everything, these people of vaults and then once things kind of level, you 1166 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,119 go up there. Start a new so you just start the world over, 1167 01:09:04,199 --> 01:09:08,199 right, But then, oh man, you just start the world over. 1168 01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,720 I think there was like a new one. I think I saw hang on, 1169 01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:14,720 Oh is there? Oh I saw Scott dude, and oh yeah, 1170 01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,359 look at that hearts so you do hearts nice? Pretty good? So yeah, 1171 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,319 just start a world. But the problem is their plans. I guess 1172 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,640 not everyone dies because some people get radiation, some people find out's the way 1173 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,920 to survive, so and there it becomes off to the factions. All these 1174 01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:32,880 things go wrong. So really their nuke plan didn't really like work. They 1175 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,960 said, their whole answer is time, so they're just gonna keep trying to 1176 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,239 outlive the people that eventually go up there. Uh. But yeah, that 1177 01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:43,199 was the big reveal that they dropped the nukes so they could stay on there. 1178 01:09:43,199 --> 01:09:45,319 You got a bunch of people up there, and we got that reveal 1179 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,439 with yeah, like Lucy's dad was a part of it. We got questionable 1180 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,079 daging. That was a i'd say a questionable C guy. I think, 1181 01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:54,359 yeah, it looked like to me, which I don't know if it is, 1182 01:09:54,399 --> 01:09:56,800 but looked like an AI d aging where it was like, yeah, 1183 01:09:57,319 --> 01:10:00,520 something's really off with this one just even in generally just it felt like a 1184 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,800 game cut scene with a live action. But Lucy mom found out some of 1185 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,760 this stuff went to the top. He didn't like that so pretty much he 1186 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,159 left her for dead, so we got it. Reveals that he's a bad 1187 01:10:12,199 --> 01:10:15,840 guy. He was cryogenically frozen. Death of her mom. Her mom is 1188 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,279 like a ghoul Skelton over there, still alive. So they did they did 1189 01:10:18,319 --> 01:10:21,960 they him. They flew a lot on us in the last ten not last, 1190 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,800 but in that ten to fifty minute portion a lot of reveal, reveal 1191 01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,439 reveal, So I think he almost could have spread some of that out. 1192 01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,520 But uh, there's a lot to it, a lot of twists and turns. 1193 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:35,359 Yeah, no, I I guess mentioned before. I really liked the 1194 01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:41,279 twist of Valtech being the one to kind of take the first strike and initiate 1195 01:10:41,319 --> 01:10:45,680 some of these nuclear warfare to create their perfect world. And I think the 1196 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:47,720 idea too that they just have in I think it was in thirty one, 1197 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,640 right, yeah, where they had all these still chryogenically frozen people and so 1198 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:56,119 like, even if their plan doesn't take immediately, doesn't work right away, 1199 01:10:56,239 --> 01:10:58,880 the idea is that like, well, we have a ton of people frozen 1200 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,279 here, and we can just keep, yeah, starting afresh, starting to 1201 01:11:01,319 --> 01:11:05,079 new, and naturally it's gonna get It's never gonna work right because they're gonna 1202 01:11:05,079 --> 01:11:10,159 lose people, or you know, a certain overseer who is unfrozen and currently 1203 01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,920 has the power is gonna want to take all of it for themselves. So 1204 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,399 clearly it's such a such a flawed plan, but obviously it always was, 1205 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,119 and I think that's what makes it so fun and as a gray area, 1206 01:11:19,159 --> 01:11:21,880 and I think it is like, I don't know, it's it's hard to 1207 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,920 believe that anyone would be so evil, you know, and obviously it's like 1208 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:29,840 corporations bad, and this is like the worst form of that, I guess, 1209 01:11:30,279 --> 01:11:32,199 and it's hard to believe. But like also, Followed is very over 1210 01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:36,000 the top of its humor and its characters, and so for me it works 1211 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,239 here. And I think it's like a fun different type of story to Followed 1212 01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:43,680 has never been trying to be the most realistic thing ever, you know, 1213 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,399 there are realistic situations or immersive situations, but I think it's a very different 1214 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,159 vibe. So for me, like that part of it really worked. I 1215 01:11:51,199 --> 01:11:57,560 think the turn with the dad like in the in episode one and he gets 1216 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,600 taken away, I was like, Oh, he's definitely a good guy and 1217 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:01,880 we're gonna go save him, which is you know, that's like the plot 1218 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,479 of fall At Three's you're trying to find your dad who's got taken away. 1219 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,119 So that's another fun sort of thing there. But then, like you know, 1220 01:12:08,199 --> 01:12:10,560 by episode three or four or five, even though he's not in the 1221 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,840 show at all, I'm like, Oh, he's clearly bad. Like when 1222 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,319 we get to him, he's clearly going to be a bad guy. And 1223 01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:18,439 I think that turn in on paper works, but I just feel like I 1224 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:23,840 wish I did get more screen time of him, like, and I know 1225 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,119 for the reveal, it wouldn't have worked if in those Walton Goggins flashback sequences, 1226 01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:30,239 if they had showed him there, because that would have given it away. 1227 01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:32,399 Yes, but I feel like maybe that could have added to it, 1228 01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,199 And I don't know how you do it, and maybe you could do it 1229 01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:38,039 now in season two we could get those flashbacks. Now, we could see 1230 01:12:38,039 --> 01:12:40,840 more of it. But it did seem like a bit too much of like, 1231 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,960 I'm not really invested in this guy, in this character, and I 1232 01:12:45,119 --> 01:12:47,840 care about Lucy and I'm rooting for her, but I don't particularly care if 1233 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:53,359 she finds her dad and they amend this relationship. So I think it turns 1234 01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:57,079 a bit much. And then it just him like floating away in the power 1235 01:12:57,159 --> 01:13:00,840 arm was like a bit too cheesy for me saying that, knowing that there's 1236 01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,560 a ton of cheesy stuff that happens and follow it. So I think it's 1237 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,680 like it ended up working like fifty to fifty for me. But once again, 1238 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,359 the idea of Voltech being just the super siss company, I think is 1239 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:14,319 really well done throughout this show. I think my other like highlight of that 1240 01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,199 is when the scientist he's just given up hope. He's like, you know 1241 01:13:16,279 --> 01:13:19,319 what, just take my head. He's like, I just took a cyanide 1242 01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:24,439 pill, which is the most humane thing that vault Tech has ever built. 1243 01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,600 And I love that line. He's like, it's it's quick, it's harmless, 1244 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:30,319 and it tastes like banana. I just that was like that was like 1245 01:13:30,399 --> 01:13:33,880 peak vultech propaganda. I loved it. Do you think with her dad? 1246 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,680 Because I think one thing is a lot of times she tells people while I'm 1247 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:40,079 trying to say my dad, but that's just it, right, it's just 1248 01:13:40,119 --> 01:13:42,960 like a line. There's not much there. I wonder if you even could 1249 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,479 have done and I don't know if it's a pro con flashbacks, but with 1250 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,279 him and her together, not flashbacks of him when he's young, yeah, 1251 01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,840 but more just to learn about Oh. I feel like that would have added 1252 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,439 a lot to it. And even how do we care? Maybe do something 1253 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,199 for the brother too, give him more, or like make us care more 1254 01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:00,560 about the mother who we just kind of Yeah, she is in the show 1255 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,640 eventually, but it's like, it's weird that they don't you have those flashbacks 1256 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,520 when they clearly cast someone in that role and she's I mean, I don't 1257 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,600 know if she has much dialogue, but yeah, she still exists. So 1258 01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:12,560 I think they maybe could have done a bit more there, Yeah, because 1259 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,000 it's just like I said, she talks about her dad a little bit, 1260 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,239 but not too much because there's just lots going on in the world, right, 1261 01:14:16,279 --> 01:14:18,560 she just didn't have time just to sit down and say why her dad's 1262 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,000 like a great guy. You know, we could see some of that. 1263 01:14:21,079 --> 01:14:24,680 So I agree, think it's a little clunky, could have use a bit 1264 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,359 more time. I was fine with the Vultech thing. It didn't like I 1265 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,399 was like, okay, I kind of felt it was going that way. 1266 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,680 But it's interesting of what like Vault four, I only knows that, so 1267 01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,399 it's interesting who knows what exactly right. It's just yeah, Vault four is 1268 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:41,279 a really weird case where they're like, yeah, re established there later on 1269 01:14:41,399 --> 01:14:44,399 and they have like this, they look up to Muldover as like this cult 1270 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,920 leader, but she doesn't. But then they're doing they were doing big experiments 1271 01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:51,359 because women are giving birth to like piranhas and stuff and people have fingers everywhere 1272 01:14:51,399 --> 01:14:55,439 savage. Yeah, so I feel like they're a vault that went wrong and 1273 01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:58,560 they just like Vaultech was like, I just let them be by themselves, 1274 01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,239 like they just gave up the on them long time ago, you know. 1275 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:03,359 So, uh, Tay, what did you feel about some of these ending 1276 01:15:03,359 --> 01:15:13,000 twists? Well, I mean I think that the company Vaultech was Yeah, 1277 01:15:13,039 --> 01:15:15,760 there was some crazy shit going on, especially with trying to learn and understand 1278 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,279 when you have that meeting sequence and they're talking about, oh, we could 1279 01:15:19,319 --> 01:15:21,720 do a vault like this, or we can vault where people are like this, 1280 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,399 and I was just thinking, man, like this doesn't this is basically 1281 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,079 the problem you have now with different factions, Like if these vaults take off 1282 01:15:30,119 --> 01:15:32,880 and they have their own beliefs, then they're gonna butt heads eventually out of 1283 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:39,680 the road. So they're just creating more of the same. Yeah, I 1284 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,920 love all the goggins. He's like, no, get them, like he 1285 01:15:42,039 --> 01:15:44,119 starts to get them off the path, get them off the path, and 1286 01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:45,239 then she does, but then she comes back to like, well, let's 1287 01:15:45,239 --> 01:15:48,560 just bomb themselves. But I like that even had him being in there like 1288 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,479 no, like this is this is not gonna work. You know. The 1289 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:57,840 the end twists though, Vault Tech being responsible for bombing them then restarting things 1290 01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,720 and there and their terms. This is exactly This is exactly what they did 1291 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:06,119 with Resident Evil, the final chapter. That's sixth movie with Miliovovich. And 1292 01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:10,800 I'm sure I don't know we fallo out did it first or whatnot, but 1293 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,159 yeah, this is the same thing. The Umbrella Corporation was like, Okay, 1294 01:16:13,159 --> 01:16:16,439 we're putting all of our Umbrella execs in cryo and then we're gonna nuke 1295 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,880 the surface and do like the virus, the T virus, and we'll come 1296 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,640 back on our own terms. It's exactly the same thing. So I thought, 1297 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,039 Oh, this is kind of lame that they did it, but I 1298 01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:30,039 kind of like this a little bit more because Vultech. Maybe it was just 1299 01:16:30,079 --> 01:16:34,319 the way that Fallout told the story better. I appreciate it, but yeah, 1300 01:16:34,359 --> 01:16:41,680 I'm just I'm I'm interested to see more though with with Goggin's character though, 1301 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,399 because with this ending like this, and that's where you were talking about 1302 01:16:44,399 --> 01:16:47,359 earlier, Dylan just how we felt with his story if we were satisfied with 1303 01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:51,399 where it was, and McClain just jet firing out of there, but him 1304 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:55,960 like he we saw him with his daughter last at the beginning of the show 1305 01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,000 when he left, and then I'm assuming when they hinted at alimony that made 1306 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:03,760 maybe okay. He heard the conversation in that room when he was eavesdropping, 1307 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:09,000 confronted his wife and then they got separated. He didn't know when this plan 1308 01:17:09,079 --> 01:17:12,600 was going to happen. His wife obviously didn't tell him. Maybe it happened 1309 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,640 sooner than they were expecting, because I feel like his wife would have had 1310 01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:20,680 the kid with her to put her in the vault. There's just there's more 1311 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,640 to that story. I want to know, and I'm assuming that he's probably 1312 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,960 racing to a vault entrance to get this kid in there, and they wouldn't 1313 01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:31,079 let him in or something like that. I'm sure. So that's kind of 1314 01:17:31,079 --> 01:17:35,000 the only thing I'm stuck on. But as for everything else, Moldaver is 1315 01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:39,199 dead on. I feel like, Okay, well, now the Brotherhood of 1316 01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:44,960 Steel has this fusion technology that they can pretty much do whatever they want with, 1317 01:17:45,079 --> 01:17:48,159 and hopefully they make the right decision. And it's up to Maximus to 1318 01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:51,119 make that decision. I'm very curious what he's gonna do. Maybe he might 1319 01:17:51,159 --> 01:17:55,840 just put a TV in every person's hands with a waterfall playing. I mean, 1320 01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:02,319 yea check that the Cooper movies over and over and stuff. So yeah, 1321 01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:06,239 hopefully the brother would still because he has that Dane person who is not 1322 01:18:06,399 --> 01:18:11,319 the greatest because they just I feel, you know, they lied about getting 1323 01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:14,439 her. They make them like say, oh yeah, Maximus is leader right 1324 01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,399 away, But hopefully he'll maybe curate some other friends that would help him make 1325 01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,039 some better choices or that will help him out in there. I don't know 1326 01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:23,199 if that will be a choice though. His choice might just be trying to 1327 01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:25,840 get the hell out of there right because he didn't want to be there and 1328 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,079 he wants to be a Lucy. They do. We forgot to mention they 1329 01:18:28,159 --> 01:18:30,960 do kiss there like at the end and said I want to get together. 1330 01:18:30,079 --> 01:18:34,159 So I feel like I don't know what his his goals are probably just gonna 1331 01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:36,880 be oriented to get back to where Lucy is. So the Brothers still going 1332 01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,359 to be like, oh, this is a great idea, but really he 1333 01:18:39,399 --> 01:18:43,840 doesn't give a single f about what the Brotherhood steals really up to. So 1334 01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:49,640 a couple other things, Well, first of all, that ending sequence, 1335 01:18:50,039 --> 01:18:54,680 I didn't really love that. Maximis was just like knocked out and then Lucy 1336 01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:58,039 just leaves. It was just it was kind of weird. It was just 1337 01:18:58,319 --> 01:19:00,479 it seemed like a little, uh, a little sloppy the way that sequence 1338 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,960 was done. Power the power being restored to like that whole area is like 1339 01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:11,960 a really interesting idea, Like it's something haven't really seen before from the game. 1340 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,560 So I wonder what that's going to mean for a future season, if 1341 01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,840 we're going to like rehabitate this place in a more meaningful way. I mean, 1342 01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,239 it takes a lot more than power for a society run more better as 1343 01:19:23,319 --> 01:19:26,560 water, but maybe with water they can or with the power they can have 1344 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,359 these water filtration system back and other things like this. But either way, 1345 01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:32,479 that's a really that's a cool setup. That's the kind of thing that I'm 1346 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,960 happy with where we leave it for the end of season one, and it's 1347 01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,560 fun to pick up with season two rather than feeling shorthanded like I did with 1348 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,840 some of these other storylines. And I think that's cool that that's kind of 1349 01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:45,079 like, you know, this this the mcguffin. I guess that the season 1350 01:19:45,159 --> 01:19:47,920 was like the head and for the most part we didn't really know what it 1351 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,239 was going to lead to, but that's what it was in the end, 1352 01:19:50,279 --> 01:19:55,560 So I think that was pretty cool the way that worked out. And then 1353 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,319 I mean, I guess we also got like a tease of like New Vegas 1354 01:19:58,399 --> 01:20:00,720 at the end of this Yeah wait, I know the helmet. I don't 1355 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,560 never played the game, but that, like on the cover was kind of 1356 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:09,640 iconic, so right, and just looking out at the the Yeah, the 1357 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:14,039 strip, So obviously that's my favorite follow a game. That's very exciting for 1358 01:20:14,079 --> 01:20:16,239 me. But also, yeah, timeline wise, I'm curious where that would 1359 01:20:16,279 --> 01:20:20,279 line up with things, because I think that's where this show can shine, 1360 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:25,359 where there are crossover elements or story lore things with the with the Games, 1361 01:20:25,399 --> 01:20:28,039 of course, but from most parts, it's own characters, it's own story. 1362 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,399 But if they're doing a New Vegas thing and they're even introducing characters that 1363 01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:35,479 were big in that game, like Mister House and these other factions and like 1364 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:40,680 the different buildings that are going on there, like that would be interesting if 1365 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:42,800 they do their take on that, and that's more of a one to one 1366 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,199 thing to the Games. But even then within New Vegas, you can do 1367 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:48,560 all different ways that the story will go depending on your choices too, so 1368 01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,319 obviously the show would have to pick one that they think is the most interesting, 1369 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:56,000 so so yeah, but then obviously they're picking up with the characters that 1370 01:20:56,039 --> 01:20:59,760 we already know. So either way, it's exciting in theory just to go 1371 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:01,800 there and go see what that's like. Whether it's before the events of New 1372 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,600 Vegas, after during midway through, I don't know, but that's exciting for 1373 01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:11,359 me. I'm excited to see. Hopefully we do get that season two and 1374 01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:13,920 we can go there. Mm hmm. Yeah, that was a fun tease, 1375 01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,880 and I am curious to see what they if that would be throughout the 1376 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,680 season, if there would just be an episode where they go to that location, 1377 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,840 and you meet with those characters kind of like what we had a vault 1378 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:26,520 for right where it's there's a cliffhanger, there's an episode with them and then 1379 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,000 you move on, right. I could see them doing that with the New 1380 01:21:29,079 --> 01:21:31,439 Vegas crew or aesthetic and stuff, so or they got to get something there. 1381 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,479 That's where the Ghoules family ended up, right as in New Vegas, 1382 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,680 like who knows? So yeah, I thought that was an interesting tease. 1383 01:21:39,319 --> 01:21:42,600 Again. Yeah, hopefully we hear some about season two sooner rather than later. 1384 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:47,359 So mm hmmm. I had two really quick things to mention. One 1385 01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:51,000 is I I just love to see the Uh. I should know his name, 1386 01:21:51,079 --> 01:21:56,279 Lucy's brother, and do we remember his name? Anyone have IMDb the 1387 01:21:56,359 --> 01:21:59,239 character name or the action name? No, the character name, No, 1388 01:21:59,319 --> 01:22:02,800 I'll find out. Yeah. Anyway, the brother, I mean, yeah, 1389 01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,079 he was the exposition machine. I thought he was fun to follow a 1390 01:22:06,319 --> 01:22:10,199 round though, to get all that information, and particularly when he's in the 1391 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,560 overseer overseer Betty's office. I like when he's hacking into the terminal, just 1392 01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,159 to see that because it's like one to one of the game. Uh norm 1393 01:22:19,239 --> 01:22:24,680 Yeah, removing the removing the duds and picking the right word. I thought 1394 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:30,479 that was fun. And then also I really like that sequence when the uh 1395 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,439 lucy gets the head and then the head gets taken into the water by that 1396 01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:38,199 creature creature I've never seen before but had like the fingers in its mouth. 1397 01:22:39,399 --> 01:22:41,920 I just thought that whole sequence was was really fun and that was a really 1398 01:22:42,439 --> 01:22:45,319 h That was a great creature they designed for That was was just good, 1399 01:22:45,359 --> 01:22:50,720 classic nasty looking Fallout stuff. So I was into that uh in my search 1400 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,439 because I forgot I searched it earlier, so it was in a different tab. 1401 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:58,000 The show was formally announced in twenty twenty, so it was three years 1402 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,960 after the Basement days. But maybe we just talked about it, yeah, 1403 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,359 twenty twenty, so yeah, because I figured it must be like Fallout four 1404 01:23:04,520 --> 01:23:09,680 was the biggest game in the series by a large amount. I think maybe 1405 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,359 just during the fault before we talked about that. You could do a great 1406 01:23:12,399 --> 01:23:15,520 TV show a Fallout if you were maybe listen to that review. I bet 1407 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:16,640 it's in. I should go back and listen to that review. That would 1408 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,119 be interesting. Yeah, I would love to hear it. I think I 1409 01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:27,840 had some good thoughts. Yeah, you said you two things done. You 1410 01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,760 said about the did the hacking and the creature? Okay, yeah, yeah, 1411 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,239 the creature. I was happy with this showed. I think that's the 1412 01:23:33,319 --> 01:23:39,399 lightest part. When you are as far as the CGI. It's tough because 1413 01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,279 I think they did a good job of trying to make them in water because 1414 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,520 a few times are lighting, you know, shows it there. But I 1415 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,479 think the amount they used those type of monsters is sparingly and I think that's 1416 01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:56,039 that's a good idea. So do you feel anything else? Oh, let's 1417 01:23:56,079 --> 01:23:59,560 see, do I have anything in my notes? I had first had a 1418 01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,439 pretty crazy theory, but it was debunked, so I'm not going to go 1419 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:05,399 into that. No, Well, what was the theory? What was it? 1420 01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:14,119 A baby? I originally started to deduce that maybe Betty Pearson, the 1421 01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:18,039 former Overseer thirty three, was actually going to be Goggin's daughter all grown up. 1422 01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:23,840 Oh but not the case, because we see her a younger her in 1423 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,880 the office yeah, in those last episodes. But I was starting to think, 1424 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,720 like, Okay, maybe this is actually the daughter. I mean, 1425 01:24:30,359 --> 01:24:32,960 spoiler for Fallout four here, but I mean that's like the plot of that 1426 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,520 game is that you're looking for your kid who was you know, frozen at 1427 01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:39,640 the same time. And then when you go find your kid, your kid's 1428 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:43,720 like a freaking grandparent and you're like a little baby compared to them. So 1429 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,560 that would be something that the games have done before. So they're a little 1430 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:50,920 shady because I had to kill my very shady over there killed. Yeah, 1431 01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,760 us, he went down a bad path. You know, I just had 1432 01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,680 to do what I had to do. Okay, yikes, I'm just saying 1433 01:25:00,079 --> 01:25:04,079 mean, he's an evil fucking guy. Like I wouldn't I need to know 1434 01:25:04,279 --> 01:25:10,000 why we're killing. I'd say like, like, let's kill a bunch of 1435 01:25:11,399 --> 01:25:14,680 No, it's bad, but like it's like the peak of evil. But 1436 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,479 yeah, of course he has some sort of pitch where he's like, well, 1437 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:19,439 X, Y and Z, this will be great. But you're so 1438 01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:25,800 like there's a lot of like the where he got to you feel like there's 1439 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,920 a lot of different routes where you could go, and he doesn't have any 1440 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:30,880 wiggle room on this. It's like, no, this is what we have 1441 01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:35,920 to reason. Yeah, it's like elder now. Yeah, and I did 1442 01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,880 have to check. Yeah, Betty was the same actress who plays blind Al 1443 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:43,479 in Deadpool movies. Sometime. Yeah, I looked recognized her and I just 1444 01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:45,520 want to check now into the tomb. But yeah, so play Fault four 1445 01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,399 two and you can decide if you kill your kid or not. I have 1446 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:56,119 to forget that I spoiled that he won't get to it. He's got play. 1447 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,680 Go play New Vegas inside. I know you said you started it, 1448 01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:03,399 but that's that's the lame. Go finish it. You got it done? 1449 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,520 Is that? And that all your notes here? That's it. That's it. 1450 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:12,319 Okay, give us your friend thoughts on Rain Taylor. Overall, I 1451 01:26:12,359 --> 01:26:15,840 am really really surprised by this show, and I shouldn't be because I feel 1452 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,640 like Amazon Prime has just been knocking out of the park with their shows. 1453 01:26:19,079 --> 01:26:24,359 They do a really really good, really really good job. And this has 1454 01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,039 motivated me to want to go and play the Fallout games. It really really 1455 01:26:28,119 --> 01:26:35,560 has. What is it motivated to do? Yeah, so I know where 1456 01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:43,520 you're going with that. I think that this show is it's it's something that 1457 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,640 would have benefited from being weekly. I really think that they should have stuck 1458 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,920 to that kind of a platform. It would have been great. But here 1459 01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:53,880 we are. We've gotten through all the episodes, and I think that this 1460 01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,239 show will benefit greatly with having a season two, there's a lot more stories 1461 01:26:57,239 --> 01:27:00,960 to tell, and I think that these characters are definitely worth exploring. So 1462 01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:05,279 I think that this kind of a film or sorry show is what Borderlands could 1463 01:27:05,279 --> 01:27:11,000 have benefited off of being more like I feel like these two worlds share a 1464 01:27:11,039 --> 01:27:16,439 similarity to some degree. But this is something I would prioritize immensely over what 1465 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:20,640 they're doing with the Borderlands movie and I canna have it's like dramatic enough because 1466 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:25,520 I feel like Fault four is zany, but they have many very dramatic beats 1467 01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:27,840 from it, at least from what like with Fault four, Like what I 1468 01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:30,560 played is there's like, oh, I could see how this could be a 1469 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,239 movie, TV show. Bordlands. Do they have that? I just feel 1470 01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:36,680 like what I remember the not many, but there are a couple a couple 1471 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:43,640 of dramatic emotional moments. But it's very very zany, very very zany. 1472 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,000 I'm sure they're gonna hit those all in the movies with Kevin har They're not 1473 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,439 doing any drama all Zane in that movie. For no, Kevin hard Jack 1474 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:55,199 Black, that cast is not bringing in the dramatic piece. No, no, 1475 01:27:55,199 --> 01:27:58,000 no, it's not. But yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead 1476 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,159 and give this this show a we sloppy eight out of ten. I think 1477 01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:06,199 it definitely deserves sloppy, sweet sloppy. I definitely had a really good time 1478 01:28:06,239 --> 01:28:09,640 with this, and like I said, it had so many things I was 1479 01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,720 not expecting. Motivates me to want to play the games, and I feel 1480 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,439 like that's that's what you want Adaptation to do. It wants you to wants 1481 01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,800 to motivate you to go and check out more of this universe. So kudos 1482 01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:24,199 to them. If you look at the charts of multiple places game wise, 1483 01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:27,039 like you can see the all Fault games bumping and stuff like that, So 1484 01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,039 that's a job. I think they might be a little kicking themselves. So 1485 01:28:30,399 --> 01:28:32,760 hopefully there's a season two and three. So I know Fault Game is far 1486 01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,159 away, but it is, like, you know, it's just kind of 1487 01:28:36,159 --> 01:28:40,399 funny where we live in this world where Last has come out, not Last 1488 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,159 this game in sight. That's why I keep doing these remasters right like this 1489 01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:45,720 when they're like, oh, we're going to recreate it, but deil mass 1490 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,560 final thoughts here. Yeah, I you know, this is a show I 1491 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:53,880 definitely need to rewatch and I think I will do that sooner rather than later. 1492 01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,640 Really just feel like there's certain things I missed or I don't know, 1493 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,479 certain things I could dig more into on that second watch, you know, 1494 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,520 even like I'm sure there's various things I forgot to mention on this for you, 1495 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:08,640 just because cramon like eight hours in over the course of a few days, 1496 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:10,920 Like my notes were already such a mess, And I'm sure I just 1497 01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:13,920 missed a few things that we could have really dug deep onto. So maybe 1498 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,840 I'll revisit those things if I ever do that rewatch. But yeah, I'm 1499 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,359 really glad this show exists. It's it was a lot better than I was 1500 01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:24,159 expecting, and that makes me happy. It makes me want to go play 1501 01:29:24,199 --> 01:29:26,319 follow it, which is I guess I don't know if that's the job of 1502 01:29:26,359 --> 01:29:30,800 the show, but it's doing a job, which is good stuff for me. 1503 01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:34,279 So yeah, overall, I had a good time with this, and 1504 01:29:34,359 --> 01:29:39,359 I really hope we get that season two. Yeah, I think for me, 1505 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:43,880 I'm gonna go I'm with Delan where I need to rewatch. I think 1506 01:29:44,039 --> 01:29:45,439 I'm at like I'll go a little hotter than tear, like an eight point 1507 01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,680 five. I think a rewatch could get me to a nine. I don't 1508 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,239 think it's anyone lower than it. I don't think I rewatch goal it's gonna 1509 01:29:51,279 --> 01:29:55,239 go down. There's some stuff I'd want to take in and maybe even like 1510 01:29:55,279 --> 01:29:58,800 Ta said earlier, when you watch it now knowing a couple of twists, 1511 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,359 k how these things play, So I think it could go up. But 1512 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,079 I think the beginning was a bit sore. There's a few little issues I 1513 01:30:04,119 --> 01:30:09,159 have here. Maybe I would have liked a bit more zaniness, because I 1514 01:30:09,159 --> 01:30:11,399 feel like that kind of comes and goes in waves at times, which I 1515 01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,119 know you don't want to be that the way the whole time, but I 1516 01:30:14,119 --> 01:30:16,279 feel like sometimes we take almost like an episode break for it, and then 1517 01:30:16,319 --> 01:30:18,560 they'd make up for it by oh, we're gonna throw this weird sex scene, 1518 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,920 or oh we're gonna throw this weird doctor, but kind of have that 1519 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,920 almost throughout, you know, like almost that consistent tone. Like I feel 1520 01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,239 like when you're watching a Tarantino movie, there's a section where it's really dramatic, 1521 01:30:28,279 --> 01:30:30,720 but even in that section, like something kind of weirdly funny is happening, 1522 01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,560 Like Tarantino doesn't really take a break. It's like Okay, this is 1523 01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:36,520 my style is where it is where this show I think had that at times, 1524 01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,840 but yeah, I'll go eight point five really good. I'd have to 1525 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,119 look, but I think I could companibly say it's top three because it's last 1526 01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:47,239 of us and I don't know what else is out there for real games stuff 1527 01:30:47,279 --> 01:30:48,920 like I'd have to look at a list, but I feel like this is 1528 01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,960 probably there might be number two for me as far as stuff that's adapted. 1529 01:30:53,279 --> 01:30:55,760 So I'm very happy. This is a great start, like they could be 1530 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,760 even bit after a rewatch and hope we get more because I think this is 1531 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:01,520 a type of show too to me where it's like with the New Vegas thing. 1532 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,479 Not that I'm saying, oh, they should dive into it, but 1533 01:31:04,319 --> 01:31:08,239 if they can nail this tone and the type of world building, like you 1534 01:31:08,319 --> 01:31:11,760 sitting the fun side quests, I could buy we're doing a fault in New 1535 01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:15,159 Vegas show or just like once these characters end, like we're gonna do new 1536 01:31:15,239 --> 01:31:17,840 characters. Like I don't think it's so tied like it has to be about 1537 01:31:18,039 --> 01:31:23,359 Lucy and the Ghoul, like you could do multiple seasons of different characters. 1538 01:31:23,399 --> 01:31:27,199 So I think it presents itself that way, Uh, mister Taylorfield a Geekris 1539 01:31:27,279 --> 01:31:34,039 podcast, would it be above or below the Witcher? I consider it a 1540 01:31:34,079 --> 01:31:36,359 video game or is that a book? Out of page? Yeah, it's 1541 01:31:36,359 --> 01:31:42,359 close to the say the book, I have to If I'm comparing season one, 1542 01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,439 then I would put the Witcher above that, so if it was true. 1543 01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,600 But at the same point, I never finished Witcher's season three. That 1544 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,239 whole Havel announcement thing just killed me. Me and the only got to three 1545 01:31:50,279 --> 01:31:54,680 episodes and we've never gone back. I want to, but that whole cav's 1546 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,079 not coming back, I feel like, and you can see the numbers that 1547 01:31:57,119 --> 01:32:00,439 show dip. So I think season one, even if it's at that it's 1548 01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,119 a video game book thing, I would put the Witcher above this. But 1549 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,800 uh, you know that's that's good quality there, so you should do. 1550 01:32:08,079 --> 01:32:12,479 That'd be fun cast, I think do our video game adaptation rankings do Yeah, 1551 01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,720 there's not too many too that you could kind of you know, tay 1552 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:17,279 you can speak on Resident Evil and stuff like that, So yeah, I 1553 01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:20,680 think there'd be a fun Rcanes up there. That's a good one. Yeah. 1554 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,399 Maybe I don't play league, but maybe that's a good brand. Butter 1555 01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,079 once we finish our season of X, that'd be a good one to pick 1556 01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:31,119 up for ranking some video game adaptions and stuff, and we'll throw a couple 1557 01:32:31,159 --> 01:32:35,800 in there. But yeah, that's it Fallout. Hopefully we will be back 1558 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,399 when there's a season two announcement. That could be eight years now, but 1559 01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:42,600 hopefully that will happen. Thank you very much for listening. If you have 1560 01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,119 any thoughts, anything we missed, any questions, let's know, join the 1561 01:32:45,119 --> 01:32:49,079 discard which are discord which is in the comments down below, And thank you 1562 01:32:49,159 --> 01:32:53,560 very much for tuning in and won't be boring. Bye bye bye