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mazillim woll he falling unit is calling
lasen a craft, welcome back,

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close over day, shut have my
weight, shout letting away, I don't

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my state shout, turn the moti
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the mod boy, tell the mod
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check sho on all. I want
a tention. The word I bust.

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I will show her the sex of
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of boy. You tell the murder
a boy. You tell the murder boy.

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You tell them a boy you.
Oh my god, oh my god,

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he isn't in the words. And
I say it and I see it

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las up and the dog where I
d and I hate you? And I

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heard bass where later? And I
hurt and I hurt you breesome, well

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no word, I am yes the
joby west they depends with the white to

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still the night, and know my
name, my voice of pegs without a

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pinch. I killed a gun,
then a murder boyd you, then a

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murder boy, then the murder boy, then a murd boid, then the

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muror borid you, then the morboid, then the moor boy, now the

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murder bord, then no mura boy, then nomura boy you, then I

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mura bord, then the mod boy, then the mad boy. I know

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a law firm that will represent you
anyway, Very apropos anyway, that is

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called the murder. We have two
of the guys from Purging Sin here with

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Jenny and I this morning on Matt
Connorton Unleashed on Saturday, July twentieth,

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twenty twenty four. Welcome guys,
Hello, thanks for having us. Man,

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Hey, please introduce ourselves and tell
us who you are and what you

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do in the band. Hi.
This is Anthony Nacashtro. I am the

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lead singer and with them Leaga toy
player of the band. I am Brian

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Barkstill. I am the backing vocals
and bass player. And who are we

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missing? So we are missing our
new drummer ed Battles And to our other

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guitar player, Sean Schaeffer is not
with us today. Okay, okay,

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now neither of them have been murdered. I hope. Oh no, okay,

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just making sure why you look like
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thought about it, but I don't
know. Your hand is on the controller.

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Oh oh, he's getting ready to
just shut me down again. You

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see this law firm. Yes,
yes, but that's so. Yeah,

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but as uh as evidenced in one
of our our ads. Yeah, just

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call one of those guys with the
really catchy jingles or something. Yeah,

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that's right, that's right now.
Uh, Brian, were you were you

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here with us? I remember Anthony
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Brian? Yes, I was here
last time? Yep? Okay?

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And is the lineup the same?
I know it's been a few years,

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so it's actually changed since the last
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last time we were on the show, we had our drummer Zach King with

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us. Okay, So yeah,
the lineups changed a little bit since the

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last time we were here. Okay. Melanie, Uh, Liberty in the

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chat room says, I would love
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I think we're all curious. So
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multiple stories, and one being the
h the assassination from John Lennon from Mark

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David Chapman, and then the assassination
attempt from Reagan and the things the two

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the one thing that they both had
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the book Catcher and the Rye.
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into one song. So the first
verse is all about John Lennon's murder.

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The second verses about the assassination attempt
and his an infatuation with Jordie Foster.

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know, he was trying to prove
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the bridge section was about you know, the you know, the catcher in

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the vibe, you know, and
actually reference in the bridge itself in the

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rye. And then at the end, uh is their institutionalized and they have

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their thoughts. They got you know, they wanted fame, they wanted recognition,

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but if they've got let out,
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again. So with that repent,
I'd kill again. And and it's a

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little it's a little bittersweet considering the
fact in recent years Reagan's adapted A Sense

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Assassin has actually been released for like
what and like now he's playing and now

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he's trying to start a record label, like playing acoustic guitar. So it's

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just like, okay, I know, right, uh, well yeah,

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it's I I was gonna say,
I remember a couple of years ago,

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two or three years ago, I
was listening to Howard Stern one morning and

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they were talking about that and and
playing some because Uh, yeah, John

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Hinckley Junior, he's like, he's
playing shows, he's got a it was

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like a live performance that he did, him and an acoustic guitar, and

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they played some of it. Uh
and it wasn't very good for one thing.

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we live in. And you know, here is John Hinckley Junior who attempted

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to assassinate Ronald Reagan playing a show
somewhere, and uh, I think he

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kind of got shut down. I
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already been kind of shut down because
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you know, I don't know,
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how anyone in the music industry would
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to him. Yeah, I mean, I mean, considering they've had some

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colorful, uh characters in the music
industry before. I mean, even the

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guitarist from uh, the former guitarist
of Cannibal Corpse. He was arrested for

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having human remains in his house and
it was just like, so he's no

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longer with Cannibal Corpse. Yeah,
again, And I guess anything is possible.

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I don't know how else to say
something. I mean, people complain

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about cancel culture, but there do
have to be sublimits in terms of what

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we'll tolerate, right right. I
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line at uh the music of I
would be assassin. Yeah sounds about right.

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Yeah, yeah, but yeah,
so yeah, I wondered what the

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uh so that's what what the song's
about? It is? And Anthony,

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you wrote the lyrics. Is is
everything that you write kind of dark like

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that or what? What? I
don't think I have much of a happy

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song stuff a little bit more doc
than others. And it was funny when

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I actually wrote the I think the
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actually the music mall, just trying
out guitars and I was just humming along

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and I made the chorus siff,
and I'm like, oh, I like

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that. So I've took a little
video snapshot of me and uh, I'm

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just humming no no no no no
no no no no no no no no.

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Did the motive for you? Yeah? So I gotta So this brings

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me to the story that I was
I was gonna mention not before we came

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in. So when we he originally
pitched the song to our original lineup,

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when our original guitar player Matt Harris, god Rest his soul was still alive,

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We're just like looking at each other
like, wow, I do not

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like this song. But but then
again, we were like in between drummers

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at the time, and and just
like the song just sounds just so disorganized

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so anything, but like once we
actually got a drummer back, like the

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song just like really came together.
And then of course it becomes the first

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single that we released off of our
second album, Vindicated, and it became

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a much bigger hit than I ever
thought was ever possible. I know,

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hey, I've been wrong before.
But and it was actually kind of funny

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because like we after we had recorded
it as a single, before we had

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it completely mastered, we put out
a a demo on our YouTube channel and

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some other some other stations in the
area actually caught wind of it like before,

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and they thought it was like us
releasing a new single. So we're

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like looking at each other like,
oh no, they're so they're playing the

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unmastered track on the radio and it's
just like, wow, we uh probably

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should have thought that went through,
But after we had it put on the

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album, it became one of our
more popular songs over the past few years.

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So oh that's great. And to
have it organically catch on like that,

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you know, like radio stations playing
the unmastered version, I mean that's

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pretty cool actually yeaheah, it was
kind of. It took us by surprise,

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honestly, big, big time surprise. Yeah, LOT'SOK at the album

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mastered now. Yeah. Yeah,
So this is why. It's just like

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if we if we have anything new
coming out, it's just like we'll release

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like snippets and teasers and stuff like
that. But yeah, if somebody's trying

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to get on hold of our music, and it's like they're going to just

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immediately grab it and run with it. So yeah, yeah, I was

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really by the way you mentioned Matt
Harris. I was really sad about that.

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It's been a few years now,
four years September. Yeah, he

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had never he had never been on
this show. But I knew Matt just

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from the sea. Yeah, and
I forget what band he was in when

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I first met him. Blackout Frenzy
was one of his bands. Yep,

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might have been. Might have been
Blackout Frenzy. I remember it was one

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of his last ones, but I
can't remember what the because I remember book

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yeah, because I remember when I
used to promote Blushed Unreal was the other

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one that he was with? Oh
yeah, yeah yeah, but I think

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it was Blackout Frenzy he was with
when I used to when I used to

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book them. M hm, And
uh what one of the genuinely nicest people

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I've ever without a doubt, you
know, it's so and I get to

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tell you like it just shows how
much of an impact he had on the

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local scene. Because as soon as
the news resonated that he had passed away,

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I was actually very amazed. Another
show did a segment on him,

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actually read his obituary on the air, said where his his wake and funeral

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was going to be. And we
just see, like so many of the

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other local bands that he's either been
with or he's friends with, just that

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the crowd that he drew to his
wake was amazing. It just it really

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showed him much of an impact he
had on this community, and it was

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just it was just it was nice
to see so many people come out and

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pay their respects for him. It
really was. We were very humbled and

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you know, very floored honestly about
the amount of support that you know,

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came out and drove. Yeah,
he knew a lot of people, not

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just you know, within the music
industry, but you know his work work

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industry too. Yep. And he
was just a very generally good hearted person.

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Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah,
yeah, it was. It was

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tragic to you know, first to
watch it from day one when he got

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the diagnosis to the very and it
was it was cancer. Yeah yeah,

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yeah, yeah, it started off
as colon cancer but then just mess aside

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to different organs and yeah, but
it was one of those things where he

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caught it extremely late and like he
had all the signs, but he never

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got checked for it. Oh okay, that was really kind of what did

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him in Get checked everyone, if
you're listening, get checked. Yeah.

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somebody in the medical industry, this
is why they're reducing the a of like

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a first colonoscopy down to forty five
because now there are more and more signs

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of like colon cancer that are popping
up much earlier on and it's one of

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the most preventable that you can get, Like, if you catch it quick,

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it can be it can be cured. And he was he was young,

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okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, unbelievable. How long was he

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in Purging Sin? Five years?
Five years? Yeah, okay, okay,

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yeah, No, I was very
I was very sad too. I

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can't believe it's been four years already
that he's been gone. Wow. Yeah,

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but uh, I mean, did
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for you guys in terms of,
you know, very often people deal with

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grief creatively? Did did did did
any music come out of that? There

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were two songs that came out of
it, and one will be played later

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on the show is a song called
Hell and the Horizon. Oh my god,

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what a great track. So so
that was the last song that he

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has ever recorded with us, So
I had no idea. Yeah. So

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the second guitar solo in that song
during after the clean Bridge breakdown that we

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have, that's him playing guitar.
But we also wrote a song and put

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it on our second album, Vindicated, which is called Shell of Bones.

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So the riff was actually composed by
him, but he had not played on

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this track. So that was a
song that we wrote in as an homage

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to him. Yes, oh I
had no idea. Wow. Yeah,

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it's a great, great song,
great song. Yeah, I look forward

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to sharing that with everybody. Now, So are you guys? What have

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you been doing? Have you been
playing a lot of shows or have you

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been We've been very busy and it's
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stuff has been kind of just it's
been slowing down but also picking up and

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summer now for us has actually getten
very busy. We actually just we actually

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just came off of a show at
Tupelo Music Hall. We opened for the

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the all female eighties metal band Vixen. That's cool. So we just got

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that one, and then of course
the big one that we have next Thursdays,

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we're returning to the Bank of New
Hampshire Pavilion to play on the hazy

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little stage before God Smacked Nothing More
and Flat Black, So that's that's really

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the big one. But Vixen did
they play obviously they played Edge of a

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Broken Heart that was the closer.
Yet did they play How Much Love?

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We were watching the most unfortunately,
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member of Vixen is is Rocky Petrucci, the drummer, and they just debuted

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their their new lead singer, I
can't remember what her name was, but

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very nice group of girls and they
put out a new album just with him

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last year. I think yes.
And funny thing is is, uh they

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actually had a lead singer, Lorraine
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her. I think there's this single
was called Red. But it's it's funny

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because like I had a situation with
my Uh so, my aunt actually met

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Lorraine Lewis a few months ago.
She's actually recorded my aunt has recorded backing

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tracks on a Lorraine Lewis track.
So I was thinking to myself, I'm

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like, so my aunt is talking
up Lorraine Lewis about us, and I

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was thinking, man, this would
come full circle if like we got the

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show, we're opening for Vixen,
but then Lorraine Lewis leaves Vixen months before

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we're supposed to open for this,
So it was like it was this close

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to becoming full circle. Like yeah, the fact that like they were talking

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us up and then the next thing, you know, we're playing with Vixen.

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So that's pretty wild. Yeah,
I think too, like her leaving.

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It was it was there's some kind
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legally or something like. If I'm
not mistaken, it was not. I

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think it was like a creative thing. But I really can't remember what the

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reason was. I saw something about
it, but there was there was some

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sort of a disagreement, as so
often happens, Yeah, in the music

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industry. Yeah, so the drummers, she's only original member, correct,

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Yeah, and they were all nice
people. We got to hang out after

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the show with them, do they
it's all out yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So we have a couple of pictures
on our Instagram of us, I

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mean both me and Anthony with our
respective players. So I'm with the bass

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player, he's with the lead singer. So it was it was a night.

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It was a good night. We
had we had fun. Now,

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what is so in a scenario like
that though? So how do you,

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I mean, what is your mindset? Because you have to know going into

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that, this is you guys don't
sound like Vixen and and you know,

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and and the typical I don't want
to say typical, but you know,

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I mean Vixen. If for anyone
who doesn't know, for for youngins who

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might be listening. You know,
they were you could call them hair metal.

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Some people don't like that term,
but yeah, you know from the

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eighties. You know, they had
a couple of big hits and but very

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much that sound, and you guys
are very much not that sound. So

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how do you like going into that? Do you worry about that? Do

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you? It depends on who we're
playing with. I mean, I was

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amazed that we actually got the show
with Vixen. Obviously there's other like bands

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from the eighties that are a little
bit more attuned to our music. I

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mean Metal Church when we played with
them last year, they were definitely a

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lot closer to our sound. But
I think it's also a matter of like.

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Because our sound is so unique,
it's kind of hard for us to

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pair with other similar types of artists. But as I said, they've they've

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been booking some really great shows at
Tupelo, And as soon as I caught

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win that Vixen was coming, I
was just like, you know what I'm

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gonna I was gonna take a gamble
on it, see if they needed it.

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I was amazed they they reached out
and they said yes, and we

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just hopped on it. As quickly
as we could. And then so what

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what happens like is the crowd is
there kind of a process of winning them

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over? Is there sometimes is in
these situations. I mean it didn't like

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they were loving it from the you
know, no, I mean there were

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people there was the first table in
front of us, they like all headbanging.

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Good. Now, I mean we
one thing we started doing. One

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more is the crowd gets closer to
us, close enough, you can start

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like you can start playing like handem
my guitar, I pick yeah, a

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midstroke and go grab another one.
Yeah. And it's stuff like that.

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The interaction so you're not like,
you know, ten twenty feet away from

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them, you can you know,
get you know, you know, there's

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no mosh pit in front of you. There's still a lot of engagement and

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interaction right as well. And that
the crowd reaction was phenomenal. When would

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play like clean parts of a song, they had the cell phones up.

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That was when I was doing the
hey hey hey, they would chance on

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it back. Yeah. So I
mean that that's really it's still always comes

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like as a shock to me every
time I do something on you know,

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vocal wise, and they would spawn
back to me, I'm like, wow,

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I'm like, but it's coming.
And at the same time, with

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us being like an opening act for
a lot of these guys, is our

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job is to just get the crowd
fired up, getting them ready, and

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like, if we have the crowd
excited and enjoying our music, at the

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same time, I know we've done
our job and we're very lively on stage.

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We're not statues by any stretches.
Oh right right. Oh, by

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the way, I missed this comment. Or do you guys know Bruce from

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Legion of Solas. I do not
know. He's in Massachusetts, but does

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a ton of a ton of work
with musicians from all over New England and

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promotional wise, and we had him
on the show. Great guy and someone

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you should definitely meet. But he
he mentioned this. You know, we

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were talking earlier about the murder song. He said, don't forget Manson wrote

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a guns N' Roses song, which
one was that I can't remember. I

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thought he worked with the Beach Beach
Boys Manson Charles Manson, Yeah, I

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thought he's with the Beach Boys.
Oh the Monkeys are I have to look

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that up. I'm appreciate it.
He worked with one of those bands in

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the sixties. Yeah, I know
he was inspired by Helter Skelter by the

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Beatles. I know that. Yeah, And I mean it's funny much much

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like any modern horror movie, like
the best inspiration comes from the worst of

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society. That was a quote I
remember watching from a celebrity graveyard channel that

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I follow, and yeah, they
actually uh when I was watching that same

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channel, I remember they highlighted the
grave of head ed Gean, which was

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the inspiration of like Sounds of the
Lambs, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre and was

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actually the premises for Slayers Dead Skin
Mask. Okay, so because he was

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the plainfield butcher, the guy who
would tear off people skin and use it

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for clothing or lampshades or furniture stuff
like that. So that that's what I

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mean. It's just like some of
the most horrific things like in songs and

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media come from like reality. So
it's it's strange, but it really is.

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Now, what was opening for you? Guys? Opened for Metal Church.

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Yes, that was fun awesome,
So those guys, I actually I

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met those guys back in twenty nineteen
on board the inaugural Megadeth crews that I

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happened to just win a free cabin
to And it's funny because Stet Holland,

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who is formerly of the band Wasp, he's now playing drums for Metal Church.

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He's from Onset, Massachusetts, so
he's a fellow mass native like me.

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So we started talking over the past
few years. Really nice guy,

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and we've just stayed in contact over
the years. And I heard they were

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coming to town and I was just
like, can we play with you guys?

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And we worked it out, we
got a hold of it, and

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then of course the new lead singer, Mark Lopes, who was in Ross

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the Boss from man O War.
He actually took over for Mike cow after

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he passed away in twenty twenty one. And it's funny because I talked to

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Mark all the time. He's once
again a fellow Massachusetts native. He actually

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went to high school with a friend
of my dad's, so and then we

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finally like actually met each other playing
the show together. And it's just like

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half the band is like based out
of Seattle and have the band is based

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out of Boston. It's just such
such a cool mix. But those guys

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they're just they're they're hot tickets.
They are they're great guys all around.

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That crowd must have been really into
what you oh oh yeah, yeah.

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That was probably one of our more
livelier crowds we've had, even though they

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had they had the dining room table
thing all across the stage, and like

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I that was the thing We've heard
from all the fans was like, oh,

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we should have been standing room,
We should have had much pizes.

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It's quite funny, Bruce just put
this in the chat room. Uh so.

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The song Charles Manson wrote that Guns
and Roses recorded was called look at

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Your Game. Oh, look at
your Game girl. It was on the

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album The Spaghetti Incident. Oh okay, okay, and those of us who

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are old enough may remember the album
being pulled from the shelves as a fourteen

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track album and being re released as
a thirteen track album. This is why

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social back Oh, this is why
social backlash against the single goal. I

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don't remember that. Thank you Bruce
for sharing that. I actually don't remember

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that, but I mean, I
do remember there being some sort of controversy

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around the Spaghetti Incident, but I
didn't remember that it was that. That's

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interesting. That was a cover album. Yeah yeah, yeah, very interesting,

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but certainly not the first time that
there's been controversy around a Guns N'

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Roses song and it and a song
being pulled because I remember at one point,

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what was uh one in a million
on song One in a million?

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No, it was, it was
before that, it was there, it

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might be no appetite definitely wasn't on
that. I think it's on lives be

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and our lives might be, but
you use your else. I'm sorry.

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One in a million, I remember, uh, they they reissued that at

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one point because there's a couple of
words in there that you really can't say.

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But yeah, so not the not
the first time. But also guns

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and is one of those bands that
you know, made any kind of controversy

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kind of work for them. Certainly
the whole no, no probility, those

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other things bad publicity right right right, which does have its limits. I

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mean it's not literally true, but
but it is true in a lot of

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uh. I mean, even look
at the album that was released by Slayer

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back in twenty twenty one. It
just like it coincided just terribly but perfectly

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with like the days and the events
of it. But it's just like,

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I mean, they advertise themselves as
like an as like an anti religion band

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anyway, but that really caused the
controversy because it happened to be released on

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nine to eleven was the album God
Hates Us All. Oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yep, So obviously that
really kind of like that gonna that's

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gonna leave some negative backlash, but
yet funny enough, it's like one of

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the most popular albums I've ever released. Yeah, yeah, well that was

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always a little the dynamics in that
band too, a little bit complicated creatively

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because Tom Area is actually a devout
Catholic, yes, and carry King is

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the one who's actually the Satanist Yeah, and very very much an atheist carry

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King, yeah, very much.
Yeah. And I remember reading an interview

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once. I was always kind of
fascinated by this where you know, somebody

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asked Tom Morea about that, you
know, and you know, you got

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to sing these lyrics, but but
you're a Christian, and you know,

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he said something like, you know, and you know, I I agreed

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with this point of view. It
made sense to me. He just said,

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well, look, I mean,
they're they're songs. You know,

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I'm not necessarily these aren't necessarily my
thoughts and ideas you know, when you're

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singing a song, you're kind of
playing a character in a sense, right,

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You're you know, like the murder
song. You know you're not you're

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not advocating for murder. You're putting
yourself in the in the mind of the

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headspace. And this is there's a
difference between like and much like much like

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acting, there's a difference between what
an actor plays and how the actor actually

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acts in reality. Now you look
at like any of like the black metal

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bands you see out there, like
Dark Funeral, they pract just what they

406
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preach, so they are they are
the true Satanists, like the blood drinking

407
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,519
whatever. So is that true?
Really? Yeah? Like that's what That's

408
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:10,839
what I mean. Same thing with
what was the other one Behemoth, the

409
00:32:12,079 --> 00:32:15,039
lead singer Nergal, same thing.
He's a he's a devout Satanist. And

410
00:32:15,119 --> 00:32:17,799
there's a difference between action versus advocated, right, Yeah, yeah, of

411
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,119
course. But even some of these
guys who call themselves Satanists, I mean

412
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:27,400
there's I mean, because Satanism isn't
literally I don't think for most people,

413
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,720
they don't actually worship Satan. It's
just you know, like, yeah,

414
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,839
Satanism. So basically there is a
difference between it, like the actual Satanism

415
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,279
actually believes in human sacrifice, drinking
blood, all that kind of stuff,

416
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:44,559
whereas like the the LaVey Satanisms for
and the the Temple of Satan, they

417
00:32:44,599 --> 00:32:51,559
are basically just glorified atheists using Satan
as their kind of centerpiece of focus because

418
00:32:51,599 --> 00:32:53,960
it's supposed to be about the worship
of the self ass as opposed to like,

419
00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:00,759
you know, actual practicing rituals that
are within the faith. Yeah.

420
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,920
Yeah, we had Jenny probably remembers
this. We had a running joke.

421
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:08,880
This was a number of years ago, but we had a running joke on

422
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,039
this show, and we don't we
don't really talk about politics anymore on this

423
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:16,200
iteration of the program, but we
had There was Brandon Finney who was a

424
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:22,279
New Hampshire State Repkay. He there
was some controversy around him because he had

425
00:33:22,319 --> 00:33:28,559
come out as a Satanist and he's
a Republican, so he is expected to

426
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:30,559
be a Christian, but he had
come out as a Satanist and a lot

427
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:32,200
of people were mad at him and
apparently he's not even really a Satanist.

428
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,720
He was just kind of trolling.
Yeah, But so we had a running

429
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,640
joke on the show though for a
long time that we wanted to have him

430
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,480
on the show to discuss this with
him and explore the subject. But he

431
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,599
had some very specific demands and that
exactly he wouldn't come on unless exactly thirteen

432
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,519
days before his appearance on the show, we sacrificed to go in the studio

433
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,960
and then and then he demanded that
we This was when we were in our

434
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,119
old student on on Elm Street,
on the third floor. We had to,

435
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:06,440
uh, we had to then after
sacrificing the goat, push the goat

436
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,440
out the window and onto Elm Street
and then retrieve some of the blood at

437
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,679
that point and so forth. So
he had this whole thing he wanted us

438
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,440
to do, or he refused to
come on the show. To this day,

439
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,800
I don't know, And I'm Facebook
friends with him and we've talked and

440
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,159
he's been on the show, but
I don't know if he to this day,

441
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,880
if he has any idea that that
was a running joke on the program.

442
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,039
That is, I don't know if
he even knows, And I've never

443
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,239
asked him if he knows, because
in my twisted mind, him not knowing

444
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,079
makes it even funnier. Yes,
it's just just to me. But anyway,

445
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,400
Yeah, we had a we had
a running joke about that further went

446
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,360
on for a couple of years.
You know, whenever his name would come

447
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,519
up, I guess I need to
go, you know, opened up.

448
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,920
I mean I moonlight as a butcher. Yes, well, I I just

449
00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:58,039
uh, you know, I used
to say too, I I because I

450
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,599
said, I remember saying on the
air that I told and I said,

451
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:04,199
look, dude, we're not zoned
for that, and you know that we

452
00:35:04,519 --> 00:35:07,960
can't risk uh staying in the carpets
and things, getting on equipment and whatnot.

453
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:12,360
So he just I mean that's valuable. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

454
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,119
I mean there's and there's a fine
line for this kind of stuff. It's

455
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,280
just like I mean, if it's
if it's a ritualistic as long as it's

456
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,719
not really harming anybody, then I
don't it is what it is. But

457
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,360
like when you start causing like bodily
harm and ending life, it's just oh

458
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,000
yeah, you're drawing a very very
quick line right there. Yeah. And

459
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:35,199
that's really where like a lot of
these these these people who practice these rituals,

460
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,480
it's just like okay, human sacrifice, You're you're basically taking the life

461
00:35:37,519 --> 00:35:42,599
of another It's that's well, of
course, yeah, so or harming animals,

462
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:45,440
are harming any any living thing I
object to, of course, but

463
00:35:45,639 --> 00:35:49,519
it's it's like, that's basically just
like crossing the line and jumping off a

464
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:53,440
cliff And of course, yeah,
of course, how did we get onto

465
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,400
that. I don't even remember,
Oh oh yeah, because we were talking

466
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,760
about themes of the song. Yeah. Yeah, But is Vixen the most

467
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,679
unusual show you guys have done as
far as a match with other bands,

468
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,119
or if you have, you don't
any any others that are really I mean,

469
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,679
Kicks was a boy here. I
think you guys opened for Kids.

470
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,840
Yeah, that was another one we
did last year too. Yeah, that

471
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,599
one I think was a little bit
more of an odd match as far as

472
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,000
that goes, because I mean they
are definitely a lot more glam metal than

473
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,639
than Vixen is. I mean,
Vixen's a little bit more edgier than Kicks

474
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,039
is. But yeah, because it
was funny, like Anthony had mentioned,

475
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:32,800
because this is the first time we
ever played at the Vault in New Bedford,

476
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,480
and they're they're very famous for bringing
in a lot of like the eighties,

477
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:42,119
Uh, metal bands and stuff,
and I was just like, because

478
00:36:42,119 --> 00:36:45,159
I knew the Vault, I've been
to multiple shows at the Vault. It's

479
00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:47,639
a great venue. And uh,
he mentioned who we were playing with,

480
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,639
and I'm actually the one who was
like super influenced by the glam metal scene

481
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,639
back in college, and I loved
Kicks when I was in college. So

482
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,320
as soon as he said that we
were opening for Kicks, I just like

483
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,119
immediately start freaking out when I like, Hey, Brian we Go offered the

484
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,719
show for this band, called to
do it, and I'm just like,

485
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,320
I didn't know anything. I really
didn't know much about Kicks, and I

486
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,800
didn't know if it was a fan
of Kicks. So it probably came off

487
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,639
like as like a matter of fact
type, do you like nonchalant, like

488
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,320
we can offer the show for Kicks, want to do it? Yeah,

489
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:20,639
that one really got me excited.
But but the thing is, it's just

490
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,519
like, and this is where I
kind of wish like the headliners could be

491
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,920
a little bit more respectful to the
local openers because we arrived on the scene,

492
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,719
like right at the sound check,
but they just took right off and

493
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,360
so we we were on scene,
we were interacting with everybody saying hey,

494
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,320
And the only time we ever got
to interact with them was like a couple

495
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,000
of fans stuck around after the show. I went inside because I wanted to

496
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:45,320
say thank you for having us,
and I was able to talk to Brian

497
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,159
ForSight, the guitar player, just
say thank you, and it was just

498
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,559
like who's this guy? So it
was but I don't know. I mean

499
00:37:52,639 --> 00:37:57,079
with Metal Church, they hung out
with us. We were very sour merch

500
00:37:57,159 --> 00:37:59,840
tables side by side, so we
were interacting. I Shore was open.

501
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,920
Yeah, he was having some hip
troubles. I got gore and stuff that

502
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:07,800
he is that hip surgery. Yeah, because originally they were supposed to play

503
00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,719
once again at at Tupelo this year, but because he had to have that

504
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,719
emergency surgery, they had to cancel
all their dates this year. Yeah.

505
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,800
But yeah, so and we we've
interacted with them, We talked with them

506
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,119
backstage, they hung with us.
They were actually like willing to just like

507
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,119
sit and talk with us the whole
time. So they were they were what

508
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,239
we we hope, like anybody we
play with would be just down to earth

509
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,400
and just social, you know.
I mean, you're playing with bands that

510
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:36,760
are trying to be in the shoes
of the people that are putting these shows

511
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,760
together. So and this is what
we love is like we love to learn

512
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,320
about the industry. We want to
learn how to be better, and what

513
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,039
a better way to learn from somebody
than the people who are actually in the

514
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:53,639
Industry's yeah, exactly exactly. I'm
trying to remember Kicks, like they had

515
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:58,960
a a few hipps. That's the
big one. That was the big one,

516
00:38:59,039 --> 00:39:01,679
big power ballad, but obviously like
they had the long stripe and the

517
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,280
strip of songs from cold Blood to
girl Money. Girl Money is the one.

518
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,679
I was just thinking about it because
that one stands out to me because

519
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:12,199
I remember the first time I heard
it, I thought it was ACDC yep.

520
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
And then obviously like the whole Don't
Blow, the whole blow my Fuse

521
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:20,039
album was like it was like the
biggest thing. But obviously Midnight Dynamite was

522
00:39:20,039 --> 00:39:22,719
another great album. I think those
were like the two best albums for those

523
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,920
guys. But when they came out
with their final album, Rock Your Face

524
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,559
Off, I think back in twenty
thirteen, twenty fourteen something like that,

525
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,320
they had two singles off of that
one, which was love Me with your

526
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,559
Top Down and the other one that
they worked into their final set list,

527
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,199
which was Wheels in Motion. Okay, so that one was the one that

528
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,440
kind of did. But when they
played the the setless live, a lot

529
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:46,360
of the stuff came off of Midnight
Dynamite and Don't and blow My Fuse.

530
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:50,920
Yeah, those were that was really
kind of what helped you got to play

531
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,639
the hits? Yeah? Did they
did? They close with uh, don't

532
00:39:52,639 --> 00:39:57,000
close their Eyes. They actually closed
with blow my Fuse. Oh ok.

533
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,079
Yeah. And it's funny because we
I had no idea that they were actually

534
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:05,000
gonna plan on hanging it up after
after last year, so it was like

535
00:40:05,079 --> 00:40:07,039
second to the last show. I
think, oh, something along that later

536
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:10,599
because they did a they did their
final show in their home state of Maryland

537
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,079
and uh and back in September twenty
twenty three, they called it quits for

538
00:40:15,199 --> 00:40:17,960
good. Oh wow, So they
were on a farewell tour basically essentially,

539
00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:22,039
he didn't tell anyone. Yeah,
they didn't tell anyone. Wow. Oh

540
00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:29,199
good for them, I guess for
not going for the cash crab right Molly

541
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,800
crue. But I know, oh, I know, it was like swy

542
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:35,079
Vince. I mean, I feel
worse for John five. I mean I

543
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:37,920
just saw him on Valentine's Day this
year and he's he's amazing, But like,

544
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,039
for me, it just baffles me
that he's working with those guys in

545
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:45,079
like Motley Crue and like they've got
everybody in Motley Crue is just like so

546
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,320
out there. I mean, Nikki
six, he's he's a bright dude,

547
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,480
but like Vincent and Tommy, they
are just wow, oh my god,

548
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:55,039
gosh. The last time I saw
Motley Crue, this must have been ten

549
00:40:55,159 --> 00:41:00,280
years ago. They were on the
co headlining tour they did with Kiss and

550
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:06,280
during Don't Go Away Mad. Now
everyone knows Vince sounds terrible live, but

551
00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:08,079
you don't, you know, like
with a lot of bands, though you

552
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:13,000
don't necessarily notice it when you're if
you're actually seeing them live, you don't

553
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,039
realize until later when you go find
the YouTube video because when you're live,

554
00:41:16,159 --> 00:41:19,960
you know you're in the moment and
everything's loud, and you just don't notice.

555
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,199
But Vince during Don't Go Away Mad, you know the fast part at

556
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:29,840
the end, he at one point
he hits a note that was so like,

557
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,440
what is that that? My friend
Dan WMNH. Listeners know him as

558
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,039
Dan Randall of Dan Randall and the
Randletts. Dan and I actually looked at

559
00:41:37,079 --> 00:41:42,079
each other like what was that,
Like he just was so And then recently

560
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,519
I saw a video of them from
recently playing. They open a set with

561
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:51,800
a Primal Scream, which happens to
be my favorite Miley Cruse song. I

562
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,679
was like, oh cool, I
play it, and as soon as Vince

563
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,320
starts, it's like he's not even
singing, He's just kind of blurting out

564
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,880
the words. Yeah, it was
like it's so bad. Yeah, because

565
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,920
I think the last time I saw
them, they were doing a headlining tour

566
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:09,079
with Hinder as their opener. This
was at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion.

567
00:42:10,079 --> 00:42:16,400
Guy, Yeah, exactly and one
hit wonder But and I still remember

568
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,840
like, as soon as they go
into doctor feel Good, I'm just listening

569
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,639
to him. He's not even singing
half the words. But I mean,

570
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,559
that was also a tough concert for
me because some more on behind me as

571
00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,199
I was sitting watching the show,
headbanging too hard, accidentally head butts me

572
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,719
in the back of the head and
gives me a concussion. Really, so

573
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,599
I'm literally like I felt like somebody
had driven like a railroad stake through my

574
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:43,239
head. So after after Doctor Field
Good, me and my dad looked at

575
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,920
each other because like I was about
ready to throw up because I had a

576
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:50,800
migraine so bad, and me and
my dad looked just like we need to

577
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,039
get out of here, Like I'm
in a lot of pain. This show

578
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:57,719
is absolutely terrible and it's just making
my headache worse at this point. Yeah.

579
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,119
So, but yeah, that was
I have to say that would probably

580
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:04,719
be the one of the one of
the worst, if not the absolute worst

581
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,960
show I've ever seen in my life. And I've been to hundreds of shows.

582
00:43:07,039 --> 00:43:09,119
Yeah, I think that one has
to take the cake. It's the

583
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:13,360
worst show I've ever been to.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Now do

584
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,320
you guys have a favorite in terms
of shows that you've played? Is there

585
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,800
one that uh maybe the Metal Church
show. I don't know, is the

586
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,039
Metal Church is definitely high up there. But I think when we played with

587
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,159
yeah, Corn and Stained, I
think is definitely the one that when we

588
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,800
played at the Bank of Hampship of
Going Back in twenty twenty one, we

589
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,920
opened for Corn and Stain on the
on the hazy little stage. Wow,

590
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:37,039
and that one was wild. It
was I mean, so it was it

591
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:40,800
was very hot outside. Oh wait, no that oh it was raining.

592
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,880
I'm sorry, I'm confused in the
other one from twenty nineteen, but yeah,

593
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,519
it was rainy. It was cold
because this was in the beginning of

594
00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:52,360
October because they had to John did
they've got COVID? Oh okay, but

595
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,119
yeah it was cold and rainy.
We played great the first set and then

596
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,119
back before they have all the new
stuff at the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion.

597
00:44:01,159 --> 00:44:04,880
They had to change up because there
was a lot of noise complaints coming

598
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,159
in, so the local artists would
play a second set after the main show.

599
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,880
People were walking out. Yeah,
and they didn't walk out, they

600
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,519
just stayed and they were on They
were jumped up on stage as we were

601
00:44:14,599 --> 00:44:17,000
playing. Yeah, the security had
to start pulling people, like they pulled

602
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:22,039
sec They pulled security from the main
stage to our stage because we had people

603
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:24,960
who were like rushing on our stage, like like jumping off the stage and

604
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,400
stuff like that. Like security actually
had to pull them off. It was

605
00:44:29,679 --> 00:44:32,280
very wild. It was probably one
of the most liveliest crowds, if not

606
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,000
the liveliest crowd we've ever played too. But it was just so great.

607
00:44:37,079 --> 00:44:38,559
Oh, Wow, that was the
energy. We tried to strive for it

608
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,239
at our shows. It was so
perfect. Is there any video of that?

609
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,320
Do you have any? We had
the video from like more of the

610
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,800
front of the stage where like the
like the mosh pit going on. There's

611
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,039
like guys shirts fifty degrees and raining
out. These guys are shirt let's do

612
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,400
like a mosh pit stuff. That's
what. Yeah, in the background,

613
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,840
and you can see probably a little
bit more briant than me. Yeah,

614
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,079
but I remember like looking back going
to finish. If you guys you don't

615
00:45:02,159 --> 00:45:06,000
hit my amplifier? Yeah, really, yeah, no, And this is

616
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:07,840
what I mean. It's just like
it's like I'm looking at him like this

617
00:45:08,039 --> 00:45:12,599
is great, but I think we
should probably get this guy off of it.

618
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,360
So I'm it's funny because it's like
it's a pleasant excitement, but obviously

619
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,159
history history of aliability and huge Yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt.

620
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:29,079
Wow. Now, so what is
the songs that were playing today?

621
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,519
We played the murder song and we're
gonna We're gonna close it in a few

622
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:35,719
minutes with the other one that I
absolutely love. But are these on are

623
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,719
these part of an album that?
Yeah, I've been second album, Vindicated

624
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,559
Vindicated. Okay, when did that
come out? So we released that back

625
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:45,000
in July twenty ninth of twenty twenty
two. That was that was that we

626
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:51,199
actually took advantage of the pandemic and
we still got together. We took it.

627
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,880
We took the time when we weren't
playing, We wrote the album,

628
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:58,119
we recorded it, and that was
when we ended up releasing it. So

629
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,280
we stayed productive during that whole time. Okay. Oh by the way,

630
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,719
Bruce from Legion of Solid says,
I remember that show. I was in

631
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,679
your mash he was there. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that's very

632
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,639
cool, very cool. Are you
working on new materials? We're debuting a

633
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,079
brand new song from the next album. Well, two new songs. Well,

634
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:23,320
we've play We played one of the
new songs that we had at porch

635
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:29,400
Fest in Rochester last year two year
ago. Okay, so we haven't like

636
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:30,840
actually put it on an album.
But yeah, we have a brand new

637
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:36,840
song that we have never played live
before that we are debuting next Thursday at

638
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,280
the Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion.
So if you guys are Thursday right next

639
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,360
well, I mean we're still in
the current week, so I sailed next

640
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,760
Thursday. One Sunday comes around,
then I say this, so, yeah,

641
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,320
next Thursday we'll be debuting a I
don't forget the words. It's always

642
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,119
an interesting take, Like the first
time singing a song, I sing and

643
00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:59,360
play at the same time. Yeah, it's always a matter of like walking

644
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,760
in chewing gum at the same time. You know, I'm playing and keeping

645
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,519
track of everything all together. And
why does that ever happen live where you

646
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,920
forget the words on occasion? Yeah, yeah, as long as I mean.

647
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,039
So my thing I've ban practiced and
it drives fine, No, it's

648
00:47:12,039 --> 00:47:14,719
actually driving my wife not to find
it. So I do a lot of

649
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:22,000
one ons when I can't remember when. Yeah, and I'll do an entire

650
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:24,920
song yeah yeah. And if you
can imagine hearing you have six minute song

651
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,280
with that wan is going through it
and that's all right, that's how you're

652
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,159
You're scattered. And with that,
I mean, I mean, this is

653
00:47:32,199 --> 00:47:35,159
why I always look at the drummer. I'm like, I hope you've got

654
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,480
enough sticks so you can huck one
at it. Right. There's been a

655
00:47:37,519 --> 00:47:42,639
lot of projectiles. It's quite quite
hilarious, but I've never done a wan

656
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,880
on not at a show. I've
always okay, if anything, I would

657
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,639
just like repeat a vose or something. You know, I can I'm not

658
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:51,039
even doing this long enough. I
can kind of catch myself. I know

659
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,519
when I've messed up, but uh, you know I've recovered pretty quick.

660
00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:59,119
Yeah, say when playing guitary,
it's like you learned to recover pretty quick.

661
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,840
Yeah. And this is where like
I try to stay focused on my

662
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,440
playing as far as like, because
like if I'm looking out next thing,

663
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,639
you know, I'm spacing out and
I'm hitting the wrong note, I'm like,

664
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,000
oh wait a minute, i gotta
recenter myself. So this is why

665
00:48:09,079 --> 00:48:12,920
every time I'm playing, I'm literally
looking at my finger so I don't get

666
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,400
lost. Become the lead singer and
you'll never space out, trust me.

667
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,199
There's too many things going on.
You got a lot to keep track of.

668
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,119
Oh yeah, absolutely, you know
it's we Also, the one song

669
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:25,920
would be one of our cover songs, actually one of the few songs I

670
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,039
can sing and actually play guitar soul
at the same time. What what what

671
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,920
song? What do you uh?
Megadeth? Oh? Nice, Well,

672
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,960
I mean I take the most of
the lead vocals on that one, so

673
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,719
okay, but yeah, we're we're
gonna try to do that when we've done

674
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,360
that one before live, but it's
been a while, so we'll be playing

675
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,519
that one again live as well.
But that's it's funny because, like I

676
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,760
know, Anthony does a lot of
like he does all the original vocals and

677
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,760
stuff like that. But obviously,
like if we're playing multiple shows in a

678
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,480
row, there's gonna be a lot
of vocal exhaustion. Yeah, I've been

679
00:48:59,519 --> 00:49:01,639
able to step up to the plate. It helps, It gives my throat

680
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:07,039
a little bit of a break.
Lives when you're playing sixty minutes ninety minutes.

681
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:10,519
Yeah, you know, we don't
sing laid back just like at all.

682
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,159
Yeah, I would. I would
say as far as our as our

683
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:17,519
repertoire goes, Like I know,
Anthony sings all of the originals, I

684
00:49:17,559 --> 00:49:21,840
would say I probably sing like maybe
ninety five percent of the covers. Okay,

685
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:25,159
just it just it helps give him
a break, and because I know

686
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:30,480
how the stuff goes. Yeah,
fun it last. Yeah, and I

687
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:35,079
mean obviously me a little biased because
it has one of the most iconic bass

688
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,639
openings ever rewarded. Yes, and
I get to start the song with that

689
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,800
one so oh, that's really cool. And it's timeless, you know,

690
00:49:43,039 --> 00:49:47,400
of course the song is just timeless. What should people know? We're gonna

691
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,280
we're gonna play this other track in
a moment when we when we wrap up,

692
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,239
the time goes quickly. But what
should people know about? Where to

693
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,960
find you guys online? How to
keep up with everything that you're doing,

694
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:00,320
and and and plug that show that
you've got coming up again too? All

695
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,039
right, so you can find us
online. We have our own website,

696
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:08,119
Purging Sin dot com. Are Both
of our albums are available on all streaming

697
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:14,840
services YouTube, Apple Music, Spotify, Follow us on Facebook, we have

698
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,719
a we have an Instagram. We're
trying to grow at Purging Underscore Sin,

699
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,840
and we will be in Our next
show is going to be at the Bank

700
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:27,599
of New Hampshire Pavilion on the Hazy
Little Stage, which is the side stage

701
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:34,519
as you walk through the front entrance
before Godsmack, Nothing More and Flat Black.

702
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:37,039
We go on at six pm.
Excellent. Yeah, that's a big

703
00:50:37,079 --> 00:50:39,920
deal. Congratulations on that. That's
very cool. Well, well, also

704
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:45,599
on Bands in Town and Viva Nation. That also gives a list of upcome

705
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:50,360
shows in sequential order in locations.
Okay, okay, excellent, and before

706
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,239
we play this, Hell on the
Horizon. And by the way, like

707
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,199
I said, I love this song, but just just quickly give us the

708
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,000
backstory for people who are just joining
us, give us a backstory one more

709
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:02,239
time on this. I saw it, started writing it prior to Brian entering

710
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:07,320
in the band. I knew,
uh. The original title was from Triumph

711
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:13,360
to Tragedy. It was about someone
trying to come from another country to America

712
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,719
to get a better life. And
I kind of twist things up. They

713
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:21,000
see the Statue of Liberty and their
boats things for whatever reason and they round.

714
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,280
Yeah. So like you're getting so
close, but then you know Hell's

715
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,880
on the horizon, you just don't
know where yet. Yeah, And unfortunately

716
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:30,599
became like symbolic for Matt Harrisk that
Hell was on the horizon. We just

717
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:35,280
didn't know we had cancer either.
Yeah. And that was the first song

718
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,599
Brian ever contributed, you know.
I showed him that the little bridge section

719
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,320
and he's like, well, I
made this can I fitted in and we

720
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:45,960
ended up fitting it and he started
you know, that was like the first

721
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,719
four a into him, you know, contributing to to purgein Sin. Yes,

722
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,840
so it's the first song I was
actually featured on is and so the

723
00:51:54,079 --> 00:51:57,639
the clean part of the little basin
the loud. It was something I was

724
00:51:57,679 --> 00:52:00,519
just messing around with. I thought
it was kind of neat and we were

725
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:04,800
able to work it in and then
obviously too, as we mentioned previously in

726
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,199
the show, it's the last song
that Matt Harris actually ever recorded with us

727
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:13,199
before he passed away. The It's
funny because like I was trying to suggest

728
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,760
a little bit more of a shorter
kind of title for the whole thing.

729
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,400
I was just like, because we're
going along with the theme, I was

730
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,960
just like, well, why don't
we just say something like Hell's Hell's on

731
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,079
the horizon or something like that,
And then that eventually became the title of

732
00:52:24,159 --> 00:52:28,320
the song. So and it actually
was a little bit more of a catcher

733
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,760
thing. We actually recorded that song
as a single with a friend of mine

734
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,480
from college who runs his own independent
studio, I don't know if it still

735
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:40,920
exists, Audio Pond Studios in Francis
Down and he recorded it for us as

736
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,039
a favor, and that was kind
of like the first single to actually come

737
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:50,599
off of Vindicated before the Murder became
the other single that we released oh okay,

738
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,159
okay, very good. So we're
gonna play this and uh, Anthony

739
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:59,440
and Brian, thank you guys so
much. Loved, absolutely wonderful to have

740
00:52:59,519 --> 00:53:01,400
you here of what you're doing.
Love the sound, and like I said,

741
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:06,960
I absolutely love this song. If
you are listening live on Saturday morning,

742
00:53:07,199 --> 00:53:09,280
sick around. We've got Tom Russo
coming up next in the third hour,

743
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,880
but we'll finish off this hour with
this. This is hell on the

744
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:52,079
Horizon urging sin love, love,
love, let it well, sa le

745
00:53:52,599 --> 00:54:01,559
shayeat, oh God bank some of
it dirty that duo dot that I do.

746
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:07,480
I'm living on line that time building
dirty that jumped out and God go

747
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:14,800
my brons by and I feeling dirty
that jumped out, Thank God fail love

748
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:20,559
then a line that did feel the
dirty that dumped out and God go on

749
00:54:21,159 --> 00:54:30,000
a by me what a two B
two stories the door that there's a line

750
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:37,079
no man shot stay chess no but
s ten to be old. I may

751
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:44,519
now my child man down that save
that time bil in dirty that joom dot

752
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:51,159
bang time fell love living on line
that I be dirty that jumped out and

753
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:57,039
I go my on so by that
time mail been turning that jumped out that

754
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:04,079
God fail. I've living on live
that that jumped out and I don't bother

755
00:57:22,639 --> 00:57:36,760
well fun ah my hell don b
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756
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