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A greeting to all our listeners,
of a radio rosary and of these podcasts

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that are the so- called podcast
Uerea, that we talk about different topics,

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of academic projects, research and well, today, at this moment we

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find Humberto Rojas Rodríguez, the leader
of the project of regeneration of nature,

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humanity and civilization. Cob sixteen,
Humberto, how' s the afternoon?

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Yes, there is also a question
for Colombians. I hope that when the

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storm is strong, that they are
very well, perfect, then tell me

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that it motivated you to develop this
integral regeneration project. Karen, motivation is

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the motivation that all inhabitants have from
the planet. We all live in a

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plan on the same planet, in
the same circumstances in which the planet lives,

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with possibilities, with difficulties and with
enormous bottleneck, especially of civilization.

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Tell me already as such of this
project, how it visualizes the implementation of

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organic, ecological agriculture, in contrast
to the conventional methods presented here in Colombia,

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it is completely possible, Karen,
to regenerate nature on the planet,

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the incredible biodiversity, but completely possible. In the last thirty- six years,

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we, in the calera here,
near Bogotá, have made two three

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or so of natural biodiversity where the
natural water flows from the bottom up,

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that is, it rains and the
preatic level as it has been forming plant

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layer and jungle, that is,
biodiversity has been rising the water table level

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and, in addition, the rains. When it rains once a month,

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these rains soak the soil, which
is already a vegetable layer with microbiodiversity.

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It is this task we have done
in the last thirty- five years.

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In one like that in the other, we' ve been fifteen and in

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both it' s beautiful. Biodiversity, soils, plant layer, microbiodiversity and

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therefore permanent water evaporation during the three
hundred and eighty- five days of the

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perfect year. Then Humberto. According
to what he explains to me, this

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project causes nature to regenerate by its
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not need certain additional elements. This
is the only thing you need to create

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biodiversity, plant layer, rains and
other series of similar phenomena. The only

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thing that is needed is the understanding
of nature, which is understood to the

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extent that one goes through, living
together, going through with it. You

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don' t learn in books that
learn nature. We understand nature and our

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children, all of us, the
educational system, everything must go back to

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nature to learn clearly, and there
comes to me the question that you mention

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the importance of the education and training
of young people, of children in the

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project. So how does it propose
integrating this education to ensure the long-

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term success of biodiversity regeneration. Yes, clear and listening, we can perfectly

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regenerate nature, that is, biodiversity
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microbiodiversity, the new ones, all
that can be regenerated. We can also

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regenerate civilization. You know, Karen
and hearers that humanity is deterns native to

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what it does on the planet.
We are clear that humanity is both determinative

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and self- determinative. I mean, he has the natural faculty to regenerate

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what we' ve destroyed, build
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we can root nature, biodiversity,
forests, we can rebuild them again perfectly

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human beings, humanity has the power
to be determinative of the natural environment and

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I would like the listeners to question
this clear statement, Humberto, which is

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that it is also very important to
train young people and children on these issues,

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so, as I was right to
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The future of nature? Then?
Then, continuing with other topics, you

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talk about the common global human culture. How he imagines that this culture can

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promote peace, solidarity in different communities. Karel very good of that question and

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I' ll answer you with another
question. I have written it, Colombia,

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humanity, a global project, a
theory that will lead it to the

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future. What Opinafis has, because
I would think we' re working on

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it, whether it' s concrete
or not. And I' m going

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to tell you about the ecological problem. You have not been familiar with the

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problem for fifty hundred years, and
until now, in fifty hundred years,

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eight thousand of my inhabitants on the
planet and we do not have a common

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global project or theory that will lead
humanity to the future. I affirm,

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they also want to question and doubt
it, confirm it or reject this statement.

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Colombia has a cultural structure that expresses
itself through the educational system and national

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and global youth, or has nothing. What good is so much study,

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so much theory, so many articles, so many exhibitions, if humanity does

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not have a theory, a project
that will lead it to the future?

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How hard these questions serve what they
think. It is not clear that there

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well how you mentioned, because exactly
what serves so much study, p and

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as such, we do not internalize
what is really happening in Colombia, in

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nature and in all the beautiful territory
that we have. So, that'

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s something important that listeners need to
know and take into account for future research

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and future action. Sure, and
I' ll give you a parenthesis.

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Study, research, it' s
work, academia, science, etcetera.

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They are constructive and I would say
that they are fully constructive and conducive,

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leading to the proper puncture of civilization, to the proper role of civilization.

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And besides that, I would say
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science, literature, research, civilization, but the commons of humanity.

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Another question floats well similar to science, specializations, theoretical knowledge, etcetera.

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Or it' s completely retarded.
What do you think katy Well Humberto,

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let me tell you. I feel
that research is going more and more from

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the academy, that is, from
where we are at a point far apart

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from what is really going on.
Yeah, well, and you were wondering,

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you were wondering how to regenerate the
soils. That' s right,

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and I' m going to tell
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or theories. You just need to
look at nature. For every human being

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who wants to regenerate nature, only
to observe it and to observe it,

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he discovers, as it is natural
that taking the hands of man, of

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the soil, of the pike,
of the farm, of the farm,

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taking out the hand of man and
domestic animals, and nature and biodiversity begin

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to express themselves and express themselves and
transform themselves into forests, into biodiversity,

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into micro biodiversity, into rich soils, yes, into vegetable layer, very

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rich, in water storage, which
we do not realize. Over the centuries

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and we do not realize the water
that rains goes to the rivers, to

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the jets, to the rivers and
to the sea. And like the surface

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of the earth, of the beams
and of the planet, it is petrified

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by lack of jungle and vegetation.
It is left stagnant that it stores in

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the soil, in the vegetable layer
and then differs it day by day,

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for three hundred and sixty- five
days. What do you think he knows

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about this little star? Not sure. Yes, it is that as such,

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nature is perfect and she is forging
her own exact, accurate processes to

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see how elementary it is and we
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right. That is why the question
arises here of how you see the relationship

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between particular interests and the need of
the natural environment in search of a sustainable

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balance. Most closely related to what
I was talking about earlier or that question.

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I' d love to answer it
to you, but I' d

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like to tell you another clear detail. Together with the previous one, let

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us remember that to regenerate the plant
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as a next step, it is
no more without or taking out man'

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s hands for one or three,
five or ten years and begins to form

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plant layer. Also domestic animals.
Informed the plant layer, we already have

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a beginning of biodiversity and we can
have on the planet half planets thirty percent

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what we want from fertile soils,
microbiodiversity and macrobiodiversity. We can have it

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again. Now it eats you touch
a detail attached to that one not we

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have the Andes Mountain Range and it
lives there. Approximately eighty percent of the

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Colombian peasantry is seated, enduring hunger
and needs and poverty, misery, and

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that generates social decomposition that is expressed
in all forms. And we blame this,

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the other thing, the other thing. And it turns out that these

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lands of mountain range, where eight
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can perfectly turn from unproductive, as
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it is possible throughout the mountain range
to get the peasants production to be reduced

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from one to five or the cacaren
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and down from five to one.
A national power station that interconnects the producer

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of the Andes mountain range of Colombia
with the consumer and intermediaries adding with the

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input troveedores. That' s all
you have to do and you can weigh

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with three people tomorrow if you budget
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all aspects of the peasantry of the
cordelera of those before. We have done

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it with our hands, we have
worked it, we have experienced it,

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we have tested it forward. Now, yes, Carlico, no yes,

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of course it' s already good. With that information, we already have,

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because the whole project is much clearer. And then I come back and

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repeat the question, which is how
you see the relationship between particular interests and

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the need for the natural environment in
the search for a sustainable balance. I

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tell you Carriel, the need,
so it' s a subject sometimes is

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complex and experimental and we could do
it elementary. The need is natural to

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place them in Colombians who are listening
to the need governed the human life of

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the species as the main force until
civilization began. When civilization began, the

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particular interest, which is the force
that governs civilization, began to rule.

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This will be clear in the entire
academy of the whole world, in the

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texts how good I bid. So, if this is the case, we

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have to check it out. I' ll release it for verification. If

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the need is so, it is
the one that governed humanity before civilization,

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and the particular interest is the force
that governs civilization, that is, from

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the beginning of civilization to date and
until tomorrow. It is the most powerful

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force in civilization. It is the
creative force of civilization and all its development

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and evolution to this day. What
do you think Karen, No, because

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it' s a pretty broad topic
from which you can get a lot of

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topics. So that civilization and everything
is governed only by certain aspects is something

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complex, but Karen and listener is
supremely elementary. So it is supreme and

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how this would be solved in two
words after it has to be explained,

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and the explanation takes years of research, or decades or enough decades. These

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conclusions are not reached with a very
careful reading of a very wise work to

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come to this. It' s
a bad thing and I' m going

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to tell you another detail car listeners. To resolve the general crisis of humanity

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and all the small crises requires a
balance between two very powerful forces, the

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one that I have just mentioned to
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have just mentioned to you the interest, The balance between necessity and interest,

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because here it is formed and that
is handled by science, an antagonistic contradiction,

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that is, from the beginning to
the death, between the necessity of

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nature, the necessity of humanity,
the necessity of civilization itself. This crisis

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is required to return or achieve or
make the process mankind a path to achieve

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a balance, to pass it from
antagonistic as it is now, that is,

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an antagonistic contradiction from here to Beijing, and that contradiction lowers it,

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lowers it, lowers it, until
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which is completely possible, because,
as I told you, humanity is determinative

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of the medium, that is,
it has the natural power to do so.

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Because it is argued that the cycle
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has a powerful, unbeatable force,
and I want to bring you the message

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that that is true, completely true. The force that drags civilization, which

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develops, evolves and projects civilization is
very powerful, unbeatable. But I would

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also like to tell you that humanity
has an unbeatable need, also insurmountable,

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very great, impossible to handle.
And anyone would say that the strength of

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nature leads us to the future and
we have to give ourselves up. But

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that' s not the case.
There are two reasons why this is not

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the case. The first is the
need that, as long as life exists,

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there is need and necessity is the
force that governed and governs life on

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the planet, not only the human
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including the species, necessity and natural
force that governs. The very powerful nature

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is far more powerful than the force
that governs civilization. Then we have the

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growing need on the globe, the
need for nature, the need for humanity

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and the need for CIBRIS. All
three are in an upward crisis and are

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increasingly in need. The force of
necessity is impectuous, but this force is

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passed through the powerful force of civilization
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a most respectable force has the potential
to have given rise to civilization and that

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particular interest to have given evolution to
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the natural force of the natural civilization
of civilization. I' m not saying

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the nature of civilization. It'
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as I told you, there is
the strength of necessity, which is not

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only the necessity of species and civilization, but the necessity of the whole nature

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of life, all that is also
very powerful. And that force is very

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powerful and it' s cornered.
And besides, there is something that we

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discover, and that is that the
human being in civilization acquired the faculty,

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the capacity to be determinative of the
natural environment and civilization. And your day

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- to- day stuff. Here
we are proving it right now. Humanity

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is determinative about the natural environment and
civilization. Every day we do tess,

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we do, we change everything.
Mankind is already determining powerfulness shows humanity that

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it is capable of caril thousand graces. And if you have any other questions,

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with great pleasure, ah no,
Humberto, because already with all that

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panorama and with all that slogan of
necessity and personal interests, the whole panorama

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was already much clearer. Then,
without further ado, thank you also for

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the words and all the teachings of
this little interview. Thanks to all the

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people who connected to a new episode
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Professor Humberto Rojas about the regeneration project
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