A greeting to all our listeners, of a radio rosary and of these podcasts
that are the so- called podcast Uerea, that we talk about different topics,
of academic projects, research and well, today, at this moment we
find Humberto Rojas Rodríguez, the leader of the project of regeneration of nature,
humanity and civilization. Cob sixteen, Humberto, how' s the afternoon?
Yes, there is also a question for Colombians. I hope that when the
storm is strong, that they are very well, perfect, then tell me
that it motivated you to develop this integral regeneration project. Karen, motivation is
the motivation that all inhabitants have from the planet. We all live in a
plan on the same planet, in the same circumstances in which the planet lives,
with possibilities, with difficulties and with enormous bottleneck, especially of civilization.
Tell me already as such of this project, how it visualizes the implementation of
organic, ecological agriculture, in contrast to the conventional methods presented here in Colombia,
it is completely possible, Karen, to regenerate nature on the planet,
the incredible biodiversity, but completely possible. In the last thirty- six years,
we, in the calera here, near Bogotá, have made two three
or so of natural biodiversity where the natural water flows from the bottom up,
that is, it rains and the preatic level as it has been forming plant
layer and jungle, that is, biodiversity has been rising the water table level
and, in addition, the rains. When it rains once a month,
these rains soak the soil, which is already a vegetable layer with microbiodiversity.
It is this task we have done in the last thirty- five years.
In one like that in the other, we' ve been fifteen and in
both it' s beautiful. Biodiversity, soils, plant layer, microbiodiversity and
therefore permanent water evaporation during the three hundred and eighty- five days of the
perfect year. Then Humberto. According to what he explains to me, this
project causes nature to regenerate by its own means, that is, it does
not need certain additional elements. This is the only thing you need to create
biodiversity, plant layer, rains and other series of similar phenomena. The only
thing that is needed is the understanding of nature, which is understood to the
extent that one goes through, living together, going through with it. You
don' t learn in books that learn nature. We understand nature and our
children, all of us, the educational system, everything must go back to
nature to learn clearly, and there comes to me the question that you mention
the importance of the education and training of young people, of children in the
project. So how does it propose integrating this education to ensure the long-
term success of biodiversity regeneration. Yes, clear and listening, we can perfectly
regenerate nature, that is, biodiversity between them, not the forests, the
microbiodiversity, the new ones, all that can be regenerated. We can also
regenerate civilization. You know, Karen and hearers that humanity is deterns native to
what it does on the planet. We are clear that humanity is both determinative
and self- determinative. I mean, he has the natural faculty to regenerate
what we' ve destroyed, build it back. That is to say,
we can root nature, biodiversity, forests, we can rebuild them again perfectly
human beings, humanity has the power to be determinative of the natural environment and
I would like the listeners to question this clear statement, Humberto, which is
that it is also very important to train young people and children on these issues,
so, as I was right to say, we are as such.
The future of nature? Then? Then, continuing with other topics, you
talk about the common global human culture. How he imagines that this culture can
promote peace, solidarity in different communities. Karel very good of that question and
I' ll answer you with another question. I have written it, Colombia,
humanity, a global project, a theory that will lead it to the
future. What Opinafis has, because I would think we' re working on
it, whether it' s concrete or not. And I' m going
to tell you about the ecological problem. You have not been familiar with the
problem for fifty hundred years, and until now, in fifty hundred years,
eight thousand of my inhabitants on the planet and we do not have a common
global project or theory that will lead humanity to the future. I affirm,
they also want to question and doubt it, confirm it or reject this statement.
Colombia has a cultural structure that expresses itself through the educational system and national
and global youth, or has nothing. What good is so much study,
so much theory, so many articles, so many exhibitions, if humanity does
not have a theory, a project that will lead it to the future?
How hard these questions serve what they think. It is not clear that there
well how you mentioned, because exactly what serves so much study, p and
as such, we do not internalize what is really happening in Colombia, in
nature and in all the beautiful territory that we have. So, that'
s something important that listeners need to know and take into account for future research
and future action. Sure, and I' ll give you a parenthesis.
Study, research, it' s work, academia, science, etcetera.
They are constructive and I would say that they are fully constructive and conducive,
leading to the proper puncture of civilization, to the proper role of civilization.
And besides that, I would say that with strambithic successes the fruit of academia,
science, literature, research, civilization, but the commons of humanity.
Another question floats well similar to science, specializations, theoretical knowledge, etcetera.
Or it' s completely retarded. What do you think katy Well Humberto,
let me tell you. I feel that research is going more and more from
the academy, that is, from where we are at a point far apart
from what is really going on. Yeah, well, and you were wondering,
you were wondering how to regenerate the soils. That' s right,
and I' m going to tell you, you don' t need money
or theories. You just need to look at nature. For every human being
who wants to regenerate nature, only to observe it and to observe it,
he discovers, as it is natural that taking the hands of man, of
the soil, of the pike, of the farm, of the farm,
taking out the hand of man and domestic animals, and nature and biodiversity begin
to express themselves and express themselves and transform themselves into forests, into biodiversity,
into micro biodiversity, into rich soils, yes, into vegetable layer, very
rich, in water storage, which we do not realize. Over the centuries
and we do not realize the water that rains goes to the rivers, to
the jets, to the rivers and to the sea. And like the surface
of the earth, of the beams and of the planet, it is petrified
by lack of jungle and vegetation. It is left stagnant that it stores in
the soil, in the vegetable layer and then differs it day by day,
for three hundred and sixty- five days. What do you think he knows
about this little star? Not sure. Yes, it is that as such,
nature is perfect and she is forging her own exact, accurate processes to
see how elementary it is and we have not done it. That' s
right. That is why the question arises here of how you see the relationship
between particular interests and the need of the natural environment in search of a sustainable
balance. Most closely related to what I was talking about earlier or that question.
I' d love to answer it to you, but I' d
like to tell you another clear detail. Together with the previous one, let
us remember that to regenerate the plant layer, soils and microbiodiversity and therefore macrobiodiversity
as a next step, it is no more without or taking out man'
s hands for one or three, five or ten years and begins to form
plant layer. Also domestic animals. Informed the plant layer, we already have
a beginning of biodiversity and we can have on the planet half planets thirty percent
what we want from fertile soils, microbiodiversity and macrobiodiversity. We can have it
again. Now it eats you touch a detail attached to that one not we
have the Andes Mountain Range and it lives there. Approximately eighty percent of the
Colombian peasantry is seated, enduring hunger and needs and poverty, misery, and
that generates social decomposition that is expressed in all forms. And we blame this,
the other thing, the other thing. And it turns out that these
lands of mountain range, where eight thirty percent of the peasant population is,
can perfectly turn from unproductive, as it is today, to productive. Or
it is possible throughout the mountain range to get the peasants production to be reduced
from one to five or the cacaren is due from one to five the production
and down from five to one. A national power station that interconnects the producer
of the Andes mountain range of Colombia with the consumer and intermediaries adding with the
input troveedores. That' s all you have to do and you can weigh
with three people tomorrow if you budget and you would solve the total problem in
all aspects of the peasantry of the cordelera of those before. We have done
it with our hands, we have worked it, we have experienced it,
we have tested it forward. Now, yes, Carlico, no yes,
of course it' s already good. With that information, we already have,
because the whole project is much clearer. And then I come back and
repeat the question, which is how you see the relationship between particular interests and
the need for the natural environment in the search for a sustainable balance. I
tell you Carriel, the need, so it' s a subject sometimes is
complex and experimental and we could do it elementary. The need is natural to
place them in Colombians who are listening to the need governed the human life of
the species as the main force until civilization began. When civilization began, the
particular interest, which is the force that governs civilization, began to rule.
This will be clear in the entire academy of the whole world, in the
texts how good I bid. So, if this is the case, we
have to check it out. I' ll release it for verification. If
the need is so, it is the one that governed humanity before civilization,
and the particular interest is the force that governs civilization, that is, from
the beginning of civilization to date and until tomorrow. It is the most powerful
force in civilization. It is the creative force of civilization and all its development
and evolution to this day. What do you think Karen, No, because
it' s a pretty broad topic from which you can get a lot of
topics. So that civilization and everything is governed only by certain aspects is something
complex, but Karen and listener is supremely elementary. So it is supreme and
how this would be solved in two words after it has to be explained,
and the explanation takes years of research, or decades or enough decades. These
conclusions are not reached with a very careful reading of a very wise work to
come to this. It' s a bad thing and I' m going
to tell you another detail car listeners. To resolve the general crisis of humanity
and all the small crises requires a balance between two very powerful forces, the
one that I have just mentioned to you the necessity and the one that I
have just mentioned to you the interest, The balance between necessity and interest,
because here it is formed and that is handled by science, an antagonistic contradiction,
that is, from the beginning to the death, between the necessity of
nature, the necessity of humanity, the necessity of civilization itself. This crisis
is required to return or achieve or make the process mankind a path to achieve
a balance, to pass it from antagonistic as it is now, that is,
an antagonistic contradiction from here to Beijing, and that contradiction lowers it,
lowers it, lowers it, until it reaches the level of complementary contradiction,
which is completely possible, because, as I told you, humanity is determinative
of the medium, that is, it has the natural power to do so.
Because it is argued that the cycle of civilization that we are going through
has a powerful, unbeatable force, and I want to bring you the message
that that is true, completely true. The force that drags civilization, which
develops, evolves and projects civilization is very powerful, unbeatable. But I would
also like to tell you that humanity has an unbeatable need, also insurmountable,
very great, impossible to handle. And anyone would say that the strength of
nature leads us to the future and we have to give ourselves up. But
that' s not the case. There are two reasons why this is not
the case. The first is the need that, as long as life exists,
there is need and necessity is the force that governed and governs life on
the planet, not only the human species, but life on the planet,
including the species, necessity and natural force that governs. The very powerful nature
is far more powerful than the force that governs civilization. Then we have the
growing need on the globe, the need for nature, the need for humanity
and the need for CIBRIS. All three are in an upward crisis and are
increasingly in need. The force of necessity is impectuous, but this force is
passed through the powerful force of civilization in which we live, and it is
a most respectable force has the potential to have given rise to civilization and that
particular interest to have given evolution to civilization, development to civilization. It is
the natural force of the natural civilization of civilization. I' m not saying
the nature of civilization. It' s a provisional unbeaten force. But,
as I told you, there is the strength of necessity, which is not
only the necessity of species and civilization, but the necessity of the whole nature
of life, all that is also very powerful. And that force is very
powerful and it' s cornered. And besides, there is something that we
discover, and that is that the human being in civilization acquired the faculty,
the capacity to be determinative of the natural environment and civilization. And your day
- to- day stuff. Here we are proving it right now. Humanity
is determinative about the natural environment and civilization. Every day we do tess,
we do, we change everything. Mankind is already determining powerfulness shows humanity that
it is capable of caril thousand graces. And if you have any other questions,
with great pleasure, ah no, Humberto, because already with all that
panorama and with all that slogan of necessity and personal interests, the whole panorama
was already much clearer. Then, without further ado, thank you also for
the words and all the teachings of this little interview. Thanks to all the
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