What is going on? Clippers fans, Welcome to season two, episode fifty
two. I believe, but I think you will. Of clips and dim,
We're coming at you the day after the Clippers beat the Warriors in a
crazy game. There's been a lot of weird stuff happening this week, so
we just wanted to do a little quick hitter send everyone off on a nice
little all star break. Hang. If you're listening, thank you so much
for listening. If you're watching over on YouTube dot com slash that Clippers podcast,
we appreciate it. Like I said, I'm Chuck Mockler, will updike
an Adam Oslander here. Will you look great? Adam? You look exhausted.
I shouldn't be because I took about a three hour and nap earlier today.
It's that doesn't even qualify. That's like a slumber, that's no longer
a nap and quickly. I do want to apologize to Brandon Mark of the
Sports Ethos, who like texting me right apparently as I fell asleep and I
wake up, text him back and be like, I'm sorry, man,
I was taking a nap. I feel like he's not gonna believe me because
napsund's supposed to be three hours. I think that I was just like,
you know, shoving them off or whatever, giving him the run around.
Hey, let's do lunch. Uh. I had a big nap. Yeah,
I had a big nap earlier. Yeah. I'm ashamed of myself.
But you know what, guys, it's been a it's been a long week
and now it's been a weird week the Clippers. There was some PJ.
Tucker stuff, will how would you category? How would you kind of break
down your week of Clippers? This was chaotic, like fine, oh man,
so many ups and downs. It's been a it's been an emotional roller
coaster. It's tiring me out. You know. I was thinking the other
day, I haven't hit a nap in the workplace in a while. That's
something I should probably get back on. Anyways, Yeah, I find that
broom closet a terrible loss. What I thought was a very indicative win of
the Clippers character this season, and it's all kind of been completely overshadowed by
I mean, rightfully so, an injury to Kawhi Leonard and less rightfully so,
just some PJ. Tucker draw I don't I'm unsure why this is getting
so much airspace. I mean that's fair. I napped through it. Yeah,
So for those of you who somehow missed it, PJ. Tucker and
Bones were set home, as reported by Shobs, which is such wild phrasing.
We're dealing with grown man, I don't I think there's some I don't
know. Set home feels like they had to go to their room. Yeah,
it feels weird, but it's because of frustrations and like early, you
know, they're they're gonna give them some time off and and all this stuff.
Adam loves getting sent home more time than that. The Bones the Bone
stuff kind of makes sense, right, Like he was playing well, he
left a team that was a contender to get more time. He came and
was getting that we trained for James Harden. That that sucks, that that's
rough for Bones apparently I know that. He laughs. Well, you know
what I'm saying. He wanted to leave, right Apparently from some he hasn't
been super chill in the locker room, just like reporters wise when it comes
to talking and stuff from scuttle. But but the PJ. Tucker stuff is
it is wild. It's getting so much I know, we're talking about it,
But Adam, do you have any hope that, like, what is
the resolve here? Wells sometimes with players when it comes to minutes and playing
time out there, and obviously, for whatever reason, and I'm not going
to I'm not absolving him of the blame at all. He thinks differently of
himself than the Clippers do at this point and has to probably come to grips
with his basketball mortality when you're in the upper thirties. He's thirty eight years
of age. He is the second oldest player to Lebron James in the league.
But he did come in and immediately get playing time, and then coach
Lou said it came down to either him or Terrence Man in the starting lineup
once guys got healthy. That may have set unrealistic expectations. I'm not blaming
coach Lou. I'm just trying to understand where he's coming from with this.
And if you thought, hey, I was just getting bounced by Terrence Man
to be in the fifth starter, I could have been getting thirty minutes a
night. Maybe that's why, for whatever reason he's like this, I think,
come on, man, I think that was like a very diplomatic thing
to say, not like his time on the floor with the Clippers was particularly
productive. I maybe the idea behind it, either being Terrence Man or PJ,
was that PJ sucks so much. The only way we can make him
playable on the floor is if he plays next to James Harden and Kawhi Leonard
and Paul George and a Viza Zoobots. Okay, that's the only way.
Yes, that's the only way. He was cracking this lineup in the in
the starters. It's absurd. And if that's what he thought, Like,
if that's what he thought, I'm sorry man, Like I I guess I'm
we didn't make you any promises, though we had to take on bad salary
in the James Harden trade. It's not even like we we had this handshake
deal that was like, oh yeah, come over the Clippers. You take
a little discount, you're gonna get some playing time. Like I just don't
get what we're doing here. That and my keyboard man, you're flipping out,
dude, I just don't get it. The question, so the toe
Mayors has been with all the PJ. Tucker stuff. He wrote an article
for Clutch Points that came out I think yesterday, Yeah, real bombshell on
Valentine's Day. But he said, like, and it's just you know,
he talks about like I didn't ask to be traded here and things like that,
and it's like, well, I don't think anyone thought that, No,
like that doesn't really I don't. I it's just kind of a rough
read I guess from like Will and Adam kind of what you were saying of,
Like, you're he's thirty eight. He's been on the Bucks, the
seventy six ers, and the Clippers right like this, this is a contender
list that's growing that and he he's been a key piece recently on teams that
are contenders. Even with him being in this advanced stage of his career,
he was getting big minutes, so that has to be factored in too.
You may not think he should have been getting big minutes with those teams,
but he was just very recently was yeah yeah. And he was also find
seventy five thousand dollars today for requests publicly requesting a trade, So things are
not coming up. PJ. Tucker. It feels like, can we be
like they let it slide on the other two You know what I mean,
like they were like, dude, I mean, I guess that's fair.
Yeah, I don't know. And and T Mayer also said in the article,
let me make sure I get this quote right. I'll mess with I'm
not basically saying like, it's not like there's not really expectation that he's going
to return to the rotation, but Bones maybe like he might need some burn
in March. We've all talked about this if he's on the team, and
it's like, I don't know, like him being he's obviously unhappy, and
I know that he hasn't there's some great quotes from Terrence Man talking about how
PJ hasn't you know, he has an effect of that locker room stuff.
But there's still a lot of games left for things to like fester. I
guess yeah. And I know this is coming from a guy who just took
a three hour nap, but I'm gonna say, don't sleep on PJ.
Tucker, don't sleep on Bones Highland being productive at some point in March.
I still think it's going to happen. I don't think it's over for either
of these guys. When you have Chuck has pointed out rightfully so for six
months, the Clippers having seventeen games in the month of March, and what
we've just seen from this team, when they're worn down, you are going
to have to have fresh bodies coming off the bench. Brandon Boston had a
big opportunity yesterday against the Golden State Warriors. He didn't play great. I
think that was trying to prep him for it could have been future opportunities in
March. I don't think it's over for him either, but he didn't necessarily,
you know, take advantage of it to the extent. I'm sure they
were hoping he would to say, Hey, this guy could give us ten
minutes, fifteen minutes here and there during this grueling schedule. So I still
think Bones is gonna get run and I think PJ. Tucker in the right
matchups, can help this team. And I would not be shocked if they
went big at some point with him for a little bit. I know coach
lew said yesterday, you know, he's seventy five years old. He could
ride off into the sunset. He's But I just still see utility in PJ.
Tucker from what we saw earlier in the season. I don't think he
went to fully completely unplayable wash type of he says in the articles, like
all I can do. I did like the part he is like, all
I can do is stay in shape. That's all I can do. I
watched that last game against Minnesota on Monday night. He went through a more
extensive pregame shoot around that I had seen him do in a while. I'm
gonna say that he takes a little longer warm up. What do he take?
Four shots? Funny check? Pretty good, that's pretty good. That's
the tease. That's the teas for this episode. So let's all right,
we don't know what's gonna happen with PJ. Tucker. He got an extra
day off. Hope, we hope they're doing okay. The Warriors game was
so weird, he was We've had a string of weird games. Tylu has
been on fire lately. First of all, the bit about PJ. Tucker
being seventies hilarious, and then, for the first time as a coach,
Tylu Panela gets ejected from a game. The Clippers get fired up, and
they beat the Warriors for their gritty, like one of the greasier wins of
the season for the Clips again three and zero in the cubit series dating back
to twenty twenty one. I don't know if that was mentioned in the post
game. I'm begging that this continues it into it. I had it in
the pregame, damn it. I said they could get to get to three
and zero if they win today. There we go a lot of weird stuff
from this game. I don't know, Adam, what was your favorite part
of this game. There was a bunch of weird points. Other than ejection,
which was wonderful. There were so many big plays. You mentioned it
being a gritty, gutty, resilient type of victory for this Clippers team,
probably the best of that nature since I could bypass last season since the kawhi
Las year in twenty one and twenty two, because I don't remember many of
these at all last year, especially to this extent. But I'm gonna say
my guy, big Plum went big nasty almost Corlis Williamson out there. He
was upset. I thought he had his best game, maybe since coming back
from the injury, maybe just his best game of the season. I'd kind
of called him out a little bit on the last podcast, saying, hey,
big Plum has to be better than this. He was. He had
a couple of really nice passes out of the high post. He was physical,
and he got screwed. Those fouls by drama on him. One should
have been a flagrant. One should have just been called a foul, And
I sympathize with Coach Lou. How do they not review that first foul by
Draymond Green and give him a tech for asking them to review that because it
could have been a flagrant on a guy who got called for a foul earlier,
Mason Plumbley when he was the one who had the bridge of his nose
cut, And you're not gonna review a foul on him when it starts bleeding
again. Maybe that means he got hit in the head. I thought.
I found that shameful by the officiating crew, honestly, Like Coach Lou was
completely in the right and that's why he was going off to the extent he
was postgame. But Mason Plumbley kind of lit a fire underneath this team.
Along with Coach Lou being ejected like that, I don't think they win this
game if Coachlee doesn't get ejected. Honestly, they weren't playing with that fire
manager, fire him up. Coach Lou Panella is an all timer by U
Chuck. I love that he was out there kicking dirt around, kicking around
the bases, throwing around backward. You never see that from him. And
when a guy who rarely ever gets that upset, gets that angry, it
holds more weight. It tells the team it's not just oh, this is
typical of our head coach. This is what he does. No, no,
no, no. This was somebody trying to fire up his squad and
it worked. I think it was also justified because he was just naturally that
mad when you're getting screwed like that. But it was beautiful to see,
and there were so many key plays in the game that a lot of them
get lost in the shuffle, like that Terrence Man three to end the third
quarter to bring it to within eleven. Now I think Pods hit a three
to start the fourth quarter right away because they were up by fourteen at one
point. But there were so many just little plays by Russell Westbrook getting into
the teeth of the defense and getting among the trees and creating extra ortunities,
knocking it off multiple Golden State Warriors to create an extra possession for the Clippers.
Obviously, what Norn Powell did King of the Fourth was incredible. Paul
George started going to the basket more was having a miserable shooting game once again,
and I still thought stepped up before he fouled out. There were just
I don't know. It was one of those games where you felt like,
oh, this team has that heart that you do need to win a championship.
Even though they have a ton of talent. When the chips are down,
they can also find a way to win. Yeah, Will what are
you going with what was always one of your peak moments for this weird win.
Yeah, it's Tyler in the tunnel actually again losing it, totally freaking
out. Yeah. James Harden also like, uh, this is again yet
another example of why you get James Harden to run the show when guys like
Paul Georgia and foul trouble and QUI it's out. He was absolutely fantastic and
we needed every bit of it. Becauseteph Curry had forty one points. He
got hit with a hard foul too, like on a on a ten from
three that was like it was like a half court. It was a so
unnecessary, And once again, what about a mirror coffee coming back into the
game when PG fouls out knocks down a clutch. Three coffee is for closers.
Brian Seeman one of his best calls for a mirror in a big moment
on the season, which is saying something because he's got all the emir puns
of course, but big free throws that were made down the stretch, Golden
State fouling down six with like forty seconds left, fouling Russell Westbrook and playing
hack of Russ. I guess it was Klay Thompson, who's I don't know
if it's coincidence, but he's not starting tonight. Pods is starting for the
Golden State Warriors. Yeah, that's like becoming an incredibly toxic situation. It
seems like did you see the bench reactions to the Clay foul. I was
watching some clips of it, and the whole bench, the Warriors bench,
is just like, what the fuck are you doing? Man? Like now
he's joining the bench because of something like that. But that was a team
who won five straight with some really good victories on the road in Philly,
the Phoenix when we've talked about blowing out Utah on the road like that.
They were peaking, they were feeling great about themselves, and I thought there
was an opportunity for them to put foot to the throat of the Clippers earlier
in the game, and they never were able to fully pour it on.
Yeah, they lost. The Clippers lost the field goal battle. We talked
about that pregame, and the Clippers lost that by almost twenty but it didn't
matter, thankfully, because they were so efficient on choosing. Part of that
was Zoos. You had a double double. Zoo looked great in this game.
He was assertive, like he made things happen. Second best plus minus
or tied with the best plus minus with Harden, which is not a coincidence
that Harden brought that up. But yeah, this was a great game for
you to go. Had to get some rest with two he got I think
twenty eight minutes, and I was thinking to myself when coach lu got ejected
and Carlo and I brought this up on the broadcast, but it was like,
oh, does Dan Craig, does he know what the minister restriction is
on a visa zubats, because maybe he does it and he's gonna get some
extended run, and this was the most he had played. He almost got
to thirty minutes, and he was a big part of the team that made
that big run in that fourth quarter. You're right, Visa Zubats was looking
as good as effort. This is a team that they do match up pretty
well against, where I think they just throw far too many issues towards the
Golden State Warriors for them to cover up for all those problems they have against
this Clippers team, there's just too many holes. There's some chatter there's a
growing contingent that is saying maybe after the All Star break, at some point,
the Clippers should try a mere Coffee in Terrence Man's place in the starting
lineup. I brought this up a few weeks ago, where I'm I don't
know if that. I hope it doesn't happen. It makes the bench pretty
small. I'm not part of the growing contingent. I'm not part of this.
I'm reporting my boots on the ground over here. But it makes the
bench unit a little goof here fit wise, I think, and I think
people are, look, it's fine if a mere Coffee is getting more minutes
as the closer with this team. I think that works, especially in a
comeback where you need offense. But what Emir is doing, our boss,
Lucas Hahn has brought it up many times. He's being a defensive innings eater
to start off games and saving the legs of Kawhi and Paul George, and
that is very, very important and imperative to this team. He's a better
defender I think still overall than a mere coffee. I think he's more versatile.
I think he's had tougher defensive assignments he was on and when he only
had six points in the first half in that recent game on Monday night,
he played pretty darn good defense for the most part. So I'm not giving
up and he was my player to watch because he was turning down shots well.
I think he got up five to three pointers in that game against Golden
State. He only hit one that won to beat the buzzer, six at
the end of the third quarter that wanted to beat the buzzer. But he
at least was finally being more aggressive and knowing that, Okay, there's no
Kawhi Leonard in this game. I have to take more shots. He has
to take more shots. Regardless the last six games before that one, he
had attempted just one three pointer per game. A guy who was shooting fifty
percent from three to twenty twenty four was taking just one three pointer per game.
So some of it is on him, and I don't think it's outrageous
at this point for people to bring this up. But I still feel like
his best utility is just being a defensive specialist to start off games right now,
Yeah, I think that's a fair call. How are the vibes feeling
right now? Gala? Danilo Gallinari was reported per Pat Bev to maybe be
coming to the Clippers or the Bucks, which Lucas Hadden pointed out was funny
because Pat Bev is on the Bucks, so it was probably gonna be the
Bucks. Gala went to. He ended up signing with the Bucks. Doc
is gonna play him a lot, which I think get sick. Good good
luck Bucks fans dealing with Doc Rivers in this whole situation. Well, does
that change anything? Are you feeling? Obviously we feel better after the win,
but overall, have any of your concerns or anything changed about the Clips?
It's so difficult, and I feel like you know we have we've we've
have less of these sense since things have been going well. But it's a
question I have a lot with this Quiver's team is like which this blowout loss
or like a grid out win ultimately says more about like who this team is,
what they are, where they are. And I'm right now kind of
on the side of that's a big I feel like that's a big win.
Down Kawhi and just being down double datas in the fourth quarter and still still
turning it around like that, that to me says a lot. And maybe
that's you know, glass out full overly optimistic, But I'm feeling pretty good.
Honestly, I'm feeling like to not go down zero and two into the
All Star break, like I'm taking it after the incredible Grammy trip, you
know, we have one real stinker of a performance. Like, I'm feeling
pretty goodair Adam, I uh, I definitely feel better about this team because
it's one more kind of check mark in types of wins you can get during
a regular season that you can build confidence from and remember and draw from later
on when you are down big. It's not like they hadn't already come back
down twenty two against the Golden State Warriors with that Paul George game winner over
Klay Thompson, but without Kawhi Leonard to do it, without Paul George in
the last three minutes, for them to do this, it felt more like
an old school two to one three era type of victory by the Clippers where
something could be born. I don't know, but hey, I was telling
you, I was tagging you on Twitter. Sometimes I forgot to retweet that,
but I was the Only thing I'll say is the lost Monday Night to
Minnesota and the win over the Golden State Warriors. I don't know if there
are a lot of parallels given the opponents in both those games. This wasn't
the Clippers beating a bigger squad last night. It was them beating a team
that they match up really well against in the Golden State Warriors, because they
play small. So it plays into the Clippers' hands a little more so.
Those alarm bells that I have about size issues with this team in certain matchups,
and we're talking about one of the bigger teams we've seen in years,
in the Minnesota Timberwolves. Those haven't gone away from me. Just because of
last night's three by the Clippers. I think that's I'm in the same boat
right, Like, there's obviously still they got to hit their mid range shots
against the Wolves. Repelicans are going to be a nightmare no matter what.
But yeah, it feels good to not be to be on a two game
pre losing streak before coming back to what is now the most important game for
seeding against the Thunder, the first game back from the All Star breaks.
So yeah, vibes are okay ish, They're better than they were before the
Timberwolves loss. I think we can all agree about that, or after the
Timberwolves loss. That's a perfect rallying cry type of victory considering what happened earlier
in the day, Coach Lou having to talk about PJ Tucker, happy to
talk about Bones Highland not having Kawhi Leonard, Oh here we go again,
Paul George not playing well, fouling out late, and they still found a
way to win. That's that's about as good of a vibes when as you
can have heading into the All Star break. Speaking of good vibes, we
are gonna close this episode out by picking the winner for the Bibblehead. Adam,
can you please show the Bibblehead the Vitza Zubats standing basketball head. I
don't know does this head move at all? You know, I'm not gonna
open it, so I don't know. That's what's up. We have some
comments I'm gonna read a couple of them here again. If you miss this.
We have giveaways sometimes and if you leave a comment we like, we
will pick it and you will win and giveaway. This one is from Starman
Hove. This is a little poem that he wrote. They wrote Clips and
Dip, a podcast for the ages, A tale of three buddies telling tales
of Clippers players, the ups and downs. All things are retold, Adam
keeps for from the new, and the old names are forever for all alike.
Unless you're in a podcast with William Updeck, noise is so loud they
can drive you all mad. Thank god for Chuck and his warning of loud
ads. Gather here, little clip plants and hear me say. We love
Clips and Dip and wish it to stay forever. Intense ending, but very
much from Starman ho I like that one, very good. This one I
like you guys are gonna know what I like this one. This one is
from Scharcilicio Sharsilsio first time for me that it was a relief to see Kawhi
and the injury report. Give that dude as much rest before they have to
run the gauntlet in March. Fantastic comment points out very obvious issue, which
is March. March us out there. I told Chuck this after the last
pot off the air, but I was like, you know, the other
night, I couldn't fall asleep and I was right where Chuck had been for
months thinking about March. Finally really right around the corner, all right,
And then I think this might be the last one. This one is from
Alfonso Lopez seven to one five four uh. My six year old son Rio
has started his journey as a Clipper fan and got his first bobblehead last Saturday
at the Clippers versus Pistons game. He ot his PG thirteen shirt and rooted
for the Clips to a tough w He would love to start a collection of
bobbleheads. Already has a PG one. I know he wants to go to
the Wizards game for the Russell Westbrook one, and he also wants the James
Harden one in April. But he would be super excited to get the Zubab
Wall regardless if he has selected or not. I know he already has the
Clipper love in his heart, and that his first game against the Pistons,
and he can't wait to go again. He especially wants to go next year
to the inaugural season of the Into It. I love the setup of I
want he wants every single start. Let's do it, you know, I
collect them all. Yeah, and then let me see if there's any more.
If you guys saw any feel free. I don't really think we have
a lot of people attacking me, specifically in the comments for thinking that Daniel
Tye should maybe not play with sabots. Let's hear what people have to say.
I think that's about it. Someone complimented my cat, but I don't,
you know, I think we should keep it to Clippers stuff. And
then someone said the problem is Lawrence Frank. So yeah, so we're going
with the wonderful poem, show me the wonderful poem from Starman hove uh shar
Cilcio for understanding the IDEs of March, and then Alfonzo Lopez's child would take
two for the bibblehead. Who are you voting for? Will you go?
Oh? Man? This is a tough one. I'm torn between kid and
poem. I'm gonna go with is Starmanhyeah, I'm gonna go with starmanho it
was creating. If I was not expecting that, I am too so,
Adam, your voter is irrelevant. I apologize, but I'm also going with
no I was. I was looking up what oppostrician means, Adam, which
would you have picked? Starman? How have you win? Please get at
us on Twitter. I'm ninety percent sure you follow us on Twitter. At
us and we'll get your address. If it's international, I'll pay for it
this time, Adam, who was going to be your bick? The first
one? There was a lot of thought put into that poem. It was
getting yeah, and it's one of the nicer things I read on YouTube.
Adam obsttrician because you're always delivering something birth from the I get it. I
get it all right. Well, that about wraps up to slowly. I
love that, Adam. I admitted it. I had to come up my
own receipts there. He's so sleepy. You forgot it about clovery for those
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addam one positive thing that Clippers fans are going to think about for an entire
week ish during this break. I think they're one of the few teams in
the league that could absorb something like what's happening with PJ. Tucker and Bones
Highland not affecting them because all the guys still like each other, Paul George
said postgame, they handled it like men. We had a conversation. The
players are not quarreling. PJ. Tucker isn't calling for someone to be benched
so he can play or anything like that. At least I didn't read the
full article, but I'm pretty sure that he didn't say that. And then
you see the camaraderie with their head coach and how much love they have for
him, and Tyler saying the perfect thing waiting for them in the tunnel,
high fiving everyone and saying thanks for having my back. That was pretty cool.
That was one of those moments that I think we're gonna remember for a
bit here, not just because they don't have a game for a week,
but this team they're playing for one another, including their head coach, and
that was one of the better wins in the two pin to three era that
we have seen. Hell yeah, the clips Doula has spoken. We hope
everyone has a great All Star break. Enjoy the game if you're gonna watch
it, I might I thought it was in LA this weekend, but we
will see everyone next. We'll do a preview for the game against the Thunder
and they will obviously have a double dip. But yeah, thank you everyone
for listening, and as always, let's go clips,